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Serpent Mound Star Knowledge Peace Summit · The Scene Projects

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  Welcome into a very exciting episode of the scene.
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  I'm your host, Bubba Starch, joining me today from the Serpent Mound star knowledge spring
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  equinox peace summit, Thomas Johnson.
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  Thomas, welcome to the show.
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  Thanks for having me.
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  That's a mouthful, but it's an important mouthful.
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  All all of those things are are, very important to what we're doing next weekend.
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  I plan on traveling out to be with you, and we are, yeah, I've met your your wife, Terry, at
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  our we have a mutual friend, Nikki Zephyr.
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  Well, a lot of mutual friends now, but, I met some of some of them out at the star knowledge
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  conference here in South Dakota last November on 11/11.
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  And now I plan on coming to see even more and rejoin my star family out at Serpent Mound.
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  So I want you to share a little bit about, you know, the event first, and then we can chat a
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  little bit about, you know, your connection to the area, after that.
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  So go ahead and we'll plug the event and what all is going on, and and then we'll talk a
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  little, star knowledge.
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  How about that?
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  Yeah.
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  Wonderful.
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  The event, started in 2010 here, and it was with, my wife, Terry Rivera, and, chief golden
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  light eagle.
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  And his, I'm assuming his brother came along for one of those at that time, Blue Star Eagle.
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  And but, anyway, I met them all up at Woodland Alters, which is where we have the event now.
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  And it said at the convergence of two fault lines in an asteroid crater.
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  So the setting is just, energetically, you couldn't get a better place to do it.
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  Yeah.
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  I don't know that it gets more powerful than that.
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  It's like a natural vortex.
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  It is.
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  And so, a lot of energies, it's on a grid line.
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  That's something we'll emphasize at the at the event.
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  But, we bring in speakers from all over the world, and Terry's motto is all nations, all
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  races, we're all related.
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  And so we try to be all inclusive, not political or biased.
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  We're all on the same page.
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  And I'll hear the Oglala Lakota Sioux say.
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  And, I've been learning a lot from chief Golden Light Eagles' daughter, Nikki Zephyr, and and
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  spending some time out at sweat with them on the mountain out there where they do their
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  Sundance, and they actually blessed me, and I was the, firekeeper for our last session out
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  there a few weeks ago.
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  So feeling very blessed to be part of this star family and, feeling the calling to come to
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  Serpent Mound, next weekend.
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  I thought I had the kids had state wrestling that weekend.
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  It turns out I've been blessed again, and it's the following weekend.
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  So if the boy makes it this weekend after regionals, I won't have to miss anything.
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  So
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  Wonderful.
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  Well, we we have a a lot of guest speakers coming in.
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  Like I say, they're from all over the Earth.
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  When chief used to do them with this, we were kinda wondering what's up where some of them
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  were from because he's into the Pleiades and the star relatives.
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  So some of those events we went to, there were people there.
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  I had no idea who they were, but it was just interesting because they're all welcome.
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  And, you know, there's no there's no drama.
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  It it's just wonderful time.
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  And, it's like I said, it's situated on a fault line, which brings the raises the energy, the
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  vibration, if you will.
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  And, I think that's all part of star knowledge.
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  Raise the vibration.
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  Well, that is one of our universal laws, right, of sound and vibration.
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  And, I've I've worked my way through the book Mhmm.
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  One time now reading it, and now I'm going back through and to read it out loud because I know
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  the power that vibration has.
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  Thomas, a little bit about me.
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  I'm a songwriter, a songwriter and a guitar player and a singer, and that's how I got into
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  podcasting.
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  I thought last year I was quitting my day job to be a rock star, and it turns out I'm
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  actually much better at just talking all day.
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  So Nice.
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  You're good.
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  So we started this podcast, and we just have conversations.
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  And it it's been a a really wild ride to them.
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  So my plan is to come out with my microphones and with some of my equipment and to record
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  some conversations with, maybe some of our speakers a little more off the stage and and
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  off the cuff.
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  So trying to come in and to just be a fly on the wall, but with a, with a microphone to
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  kinda capture as much of the event, as possible that as allowed.
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  So
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  Right.
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  Well, every just about everybody there is used to that.
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  There'll be some ceremonies where they don't want you to record, of course.
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  But, if you wanna go into what the opening ceremonies are, they it starts at 09:00 on
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  Friday morning.
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  And, there'll be an opening ceremony by Charles Albom, walks brave Bordeaux.
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  At 10:30, Santi Luke Witt, Ocalala Lakota.
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  He'll be giving a a prayer wisdom and prayer songs.
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  After that, at 11:30, Shiva Nataja Allen.
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  I can't pronounce that middle name, but he's, he comes out and he's, implementing
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  spirituality into your life.
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  At noon, we have a prayer.
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  01:00, Linda Ivory, I think you've met her.
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  She's gonna be teaching the star knowledge in the 13 moon calendar of the all star altar.
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  Those are the teachings by chief golden light eagle.
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  And, 02:30, Debbie Carey Brown will be talking about life, death, and butterflies.
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  That's an interesting one.
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  30 three 30 three Pookie Lee, heart centered living and a ripple effect of love.
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  At five, Katya Harris and, talking about eclipses, serpents, and star ancestors.
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  06:00 cosmic spirit, which is a spoken word music.
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  Some people call it rap, but we don't use that because of insurance purposes.
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  It's kinda funny, but you say one thing, okay.
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  You say something, oh, no.
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  You can't do that.
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  So, and after that, Zach Coons, he's a singer, songwriter, poet.
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  Santi Luke Witt after that, and then music by Lawrence Green, Rashad.
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  It'll be doing a community drumming.
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  And then at ten, bare medicine altar with with Lawrence Green.
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  So that's just the first day, and we have three days of this.
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  And every day is different, of course, and it's it's just a wonderful host of people.
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  And every time we do them, there's different people that come in from different places, and
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  they're all messengers.
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  You know?
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  They they're giving us what they know, and that's the beauty of it.
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  It's it's all about it's really the spoken word.
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  You you would think it'd be a religion, but it's it's a religion of the indigenous people.
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  It's it's just their word, and I think that means more than anything that's written.
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  Mhmm.
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  And that's what most of this conference is.
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  There's not a lot of written stuff going on other than just original people talking about
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  their knowledge.
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  And, I I couldn't agree more.
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  There's power in our words.
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  There's power in the spoken word.
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  That's why I pray out loud, and I think, I encourage everyone to pray out loud and to to
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  let that be known.
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  To to pray in your heart is one thing, but when you speak that, it has so much more power
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  because of the vibration.
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  Right?
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  And I've always believed in the I I like I said, I'm a songwriter.
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  I'm a singer.
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  I know the power of music and sound.
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  And now that I've become a podcaster in the last, you know, year that I know it even more.
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  I say this is how God is healing us.
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  When I have conversations and deep conversations with people, I have a show called
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  get better together where I share my story with others and to get their story.
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  Little about me seven years ago, Thomas, I was in a prison cell.
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  I, I I made a law a long list of bad choices for many years, and it finally culminated in me
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  having to make a choice to come back from Mexico.
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  I was there for about a year on the run, had a child down there, got pregnant with another
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  one, had a child living at home in the Black Hills at the time as well.
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  And I, I I couldn't destroy their lives because my life had been destroyed.
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  And I had a I had a big problem with substances, and I I had a problem with anger
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  and sadness that I carried with me.
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  And only through sharing my story.
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  And I had a very powerful session with a young man this morning on a podcast and, that it's
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  it's my calling to help these younger generations of young men to not walk the path
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  that I did.
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  I was in and out of jail cells and trouble from the time I was 18 years old, and I never
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  stopped to think of the damage that I was doing to not just myself, but to the generations
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  coming after me.
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  And, you know, my daughter was born on the day that I went to prison officially from the jail,
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  and just a very powerful, powerful message of of hope that I want to share.
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  I got sentenced to almost I got sentenced to eight years with some time suspended off that
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  after I'd already been in for about eight months.
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  And, I ended up doing just over two years total because I started making the right choices.
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  And in making the right choices, God blessed me.
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  And I don't say God in the typical Christian way of saying it.
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  I just don't creator, source, just I I was blessed to continue to do that.
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  Leaving prison, I had I had left with a trade.
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  I learned how to weld while I was in there.
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  I also, left with a, friendship of a correctional officer there named Danielle, who
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  now is my wife and is raising my two younger children with me.
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  And it's it's been nothing but blessings since then.
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  And not that I didn't try to slide back, Thomas.
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  I I I I made every attempt to go back and and not that I went back to the hard drugs like I
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  was doing the methamphetamines, the, you know, cocaine or pretty much whatever was out there.
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  It didn't matter much.
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  But in going inside and and having sobriety and going inside of myself to to discover why it
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  was that I was making these decisions, That's what's helped me heal and to now be a
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  lighthouse for others to gravitate to.
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  And that's why that's why my spirituality is so important to me.
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  That's why sweat lodge is so important to me and being part of that community here locally,
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  but that that cat's got some is that a bunny?
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  Holy buckets.
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  That's a manx kitty cat.
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  That thing jumped right.
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  That was a Yeah.
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  Three times its body height.
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  That was incredible.
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  Cat.
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  I got distracted.
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  Things down.
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  So
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  Right.
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  I bet.
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  But that is why, you know, I I have my altar here.
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  I pray every day, and and I found great comfort in the words, of chief golden light eagle and
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  and the things that I know he has spoken that have been written down in this book.
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  I'm only on 11:11 now.
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  I'm looking forward to diving into 12:12 and eventually to thirteen thirteen.
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  And, you know, you you call her Luna.
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  She she's Linda to me, but, it's been a blessing to get on their Patreon page and and
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  to learn more and to feel a connection with that.
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  I've always felt a connection to the moon and the stars, and, now I have words and names for
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  the beings that I've seen.
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  I'd like to share a story with you if I may.
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  Right.
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  A few it was probably a month and a half ago now, maybe a little more.
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  And I was on the altar, and and I've been going through this phase of growth with our podcast
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  and different things, and how does it make money?
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  I took on a substantial amount of debt to, not go to work every day and work at the, you know,
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  $25 an hour job or whatever value they assess to me.
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  And, I needed for this to turn into something that provided sustenance for us.
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  And I prayed for time travel, Thomas, and I prayed hard for it.
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  And when I walked out that morning, in my backyard in between my studio and my home and I
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  looked to the eastern sky.
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  Seven light beings came from the darkest part of the eastern sky and descended towards the
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  eastern horizon one after another.
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  I believe that they were the Pleiades, the last one being the, white buffalo calf woman, if I
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  if my memory serves me correct from these books.
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  And I have been eternally blessed since that day.
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  And since that day, my life has gone on a straight upward trajectory of achieving
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  everything that, we we set out to do even just a short year ago.
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  So not only do I believe in here, but I And as my friend Wolfgang says, he's from Austria.
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  They don't say a gut feeling.
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  They say you feel it in your belly button, and I think I like that a little bit more.
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  Yeah.
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  Well, I I I can see it in you.
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  I and I don't even know you, but I can feel your your enthusiasm and your spirit, your
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  vibe.
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  You're very upbeat, and, you know, you're you're a % into what we're doing.
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  And it's it's a wonderful feeling.
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  We get people here constantly because we have a rock shop right next to Serpent Mound.
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  And, people come here wondering why they're here, and they're usually on some kind of
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  different journey.
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  You know, something drastic has happened in their life, or they were on drugs and they're
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  trying to get off, or there's all a death or divorce.
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  There's all kinds of things that drive people to hear, and it's all about new beginnings.
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  That's what Serpent Mound is.
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  And, it was it was by the star relatives or what we call the sun worshipers, back two
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  thousand years ago that built it.
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  And for the purpose of honoring the solstice and equinoxes and the lunar movements and also
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  constellations.
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  So it's an archaeoastronomy site, and it's just a powerful place.
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  It's inside of an asteroid crater, and people just get they they start a new life basically
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  when they come.
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  And it was to think that it was built by our star relatives, and it's still there today
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  speaking.
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  And, you know, of course, the people powers that be have different ideas about it.
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  They wanna portray a a certain negative or a narrative.
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  I I say it's a negative narrative, actually.
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  But, they they're not a % on board with what we do, but we still send people over and and, you
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  know, and pray with them over there and and do ceremony.
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  And, it's just a it's a wonderful place to live by, and it's really opened my eyes up to the
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  amount of people that that are in distress in this world.
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  And you when you see it every day, you go, wow.
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  You know?
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  There's a lot going on right now.
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  A lot of, I would say, ascension.
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  A lot of people are are trading in what they had to get something different.
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  And just like yourself, you you found the light, and and now you're studying it, and you
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  feel a % better, I'm sure, physically as well as mentally.
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  And you get you get clarity.
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  You open up that third eye, and you start seeing things as they are.
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  And I think that's what star knowledge and and all this has been about is showing people all
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  the different ways that have been taught around the universe, and it ends up here eventually,
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  and we get to hear it.
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  And it's just wonderful.
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  I, I think I sought spirituality, growing up being a fan of the Grateful Dead and
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  psychedelic music that obviously had an affinity for psychedelic drugs.
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  When it not not a lot of them available in South Dakota.
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  So when I when I moved to the, West Coast as a, you know, 19, 20 year old man, and I I call
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  them the fun drugs, that's probably not right.
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  But, some of it medicine.
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  Right?
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  The the mushrooms, you know, the can in the cannabis and different things that, you know, I
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  do believe that they have a purpose as well.
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  But, you know, ingesting upon that, the the the MDMA and some of the other things that just
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  were depleting my soul and obviously using way too much, not using them in ceremony at all.
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  And, to even now where I have a medical marijuana card, but even just in the last ten
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  days, I have stopped using marijuana, and it brings me back to something that that Nikki
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  says to me as she says that, well, we get high on something else.
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  And I tell you what, I believe her now.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  That that, that reservation out there is is God.
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  To me, it's paradise.
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  And I'm sure the people that are living there, some think that, some don't.
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  You know?
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  Some of our still in despair and but,
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  to Thomas, I'm right there with you.
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  That that spot on the hill, I don't know if you made it out to where they do Sundance and they
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  have their sweat lodge,
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  but there
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  is a there is a powerful, powerful spirit there with the Missouri River right below you.
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  The last when we were out there, it was the new moon of the Eagle Nation.
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  Thomas, when I came around the first one of the first turns, because I come along the river
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  bottom from the east, and, I got right down to the river bottom.
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  And at that first turn, a giant bald eagle lifted up off the fence post, and it was close
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  enough.
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  I felt like I could touch it.
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  And I think I did touch it with the extended spirit arm.
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  And, we had a very powerful ceremony up there, the first one in many months because of the
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  cold and different things.
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  And there's a small group of us that are out here full time.
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  I'm only about a half hour east of Nikki, as the crow flies or the eagle flies, would you?
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  And, it's a blessing, like I said, for me to be able to be accepted by them and to be able to
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  learn these things that were gathered, you know, by by chief golden light eagle and many
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  others.
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  And I'm just I'm learning.
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  I I I am an infant in this and just beginning to learn, but, I think she recognized in me a
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  great power.
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  I mean, she met me at a concert for a hip hop artist that I had put together.
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  I don't know how it I I she found me.
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  Right?
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  She the stars brought us together, and I just dug in deep.
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  And after meeting so many more at the eleven eleven, conference this November, and, I had
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  not planned on, attending the the peace summit.
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  I thought that the timing for me wasn't going to work out, but as soon as I found out that it
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  did and I'm walking underneath the the brilliant light of creator and, the calling.
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  The spirit is calling, and I will lay down whatever needs to be done to to be there and to
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  be with my star family and to experience the power of the place that you call home.
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  Mhmm.
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  It is.
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  And it's home to so many people that we don't know and and the spirits for thousands of
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  years, they're still here.
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  And when you think about you know, I I've had elders come in and and say, you know, they're
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  everywhere.
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  Don't you see them?
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  And to go like, yeah.
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  I don't see spirits like other people do.
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  But, you know, I I see the UAVs and the paranormal stuff, and, you know, and then we
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  got Sasquatch here too.
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  Like, they're everywhere.
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  And so that's another draw.
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  And and it's just so many people from different walks of life will end up here eventually.
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  It's like a bucket list.
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  And then you get the ones that are are here for another reason, and that's to learn.
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  And that's what we're here for.
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  We're the messengers, and, I just we we love to share information and bring people together.
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  So that's that's the beauty of it.
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  And that is exactly why I am coming out with some of my equipment is to learn and not just
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  to learn, but then to share share that knowledge.
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  And I think that is our that is our great duty and not just with the ones that can be there
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  physically, but to continue, to teach long after.
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  I know many of these people have their own YouTube pages and are putting this knowledge
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  out there.
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  Walking crow sacred drum medicine became a friend after the conference there.
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  I know he's having a little bit of, difficulty, seeing himself there now because things haven't
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  quite gone to plan, but I I won't let that happen.
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  So
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  Oh, good.
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  We're we're doing what we can.
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  He he's he's quite a ways away from me in the opposite direction.
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  I don't think I'll be picking him up physically, but, spiritually, I will be
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  supporting.
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  And that's what, that's what I want to do is to to to be a a lighthouse for my community, but
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  also to be a a child in this greater community and to learn and to bring that knowledge back
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  to my community and to bring that love because that's what it is.
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  It's that that agape love that that the Christian faith talks about.
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  It's that love of creator and, you know, behind our son, the great central son, and so many
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  things that I read now and that I speak out loud every morning on my altar that just
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  resonate with me.
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  And I can't deny that power in my life.
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  I can't I cannot accept any responsibility for things going properly in my life for the first
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  time.
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  And I'm I I at this point, I'm scared not to pray.
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  Right?
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  Like, I'm scared to stop doing the things that have gotten me here because I just don't want
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  this right to end, Thomas.
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  And and I know that for you living right there, in this very powerful place that you must have
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  much of the same feeling.
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  I know that you were taking a a group out today.
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  Can you talk about I'd never heard of the underwater.
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  Can you talk about that a little bit and and just share a little bit before I let you go
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  today?
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  Yeah.
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  The underwater serpent is a part, it's on the Serpent Mound property.
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  It's like a 40 acre site, and it's on a stream three miles short of being a river called Brush
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  Creek.
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  Pardon me.
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  And, in the waterway, there's a a huge rock that fell down off of this 80 foot prominence
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  dolomite, and it looks just like the head of a serpent.
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  It's 25 feet long, weighs a 50 tons.
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  It's oriented towards summer solstice sunset, day of rebirth, just like the head of the
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  serpent.
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  And it's it's in a unique spot because it forms a perfect triangle between the big burial mound
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  of the Adena, elder, who would who is eight foot nine and three quarter inches tall, by the
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  way, and then the head of the serpent, 1,360 feet, and down to the Big Rock, 13 60, and back
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  over to the Big Mound, 13 60.
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  So it's some mathematical equation that's used in mound builder sites.
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  They have no idea what it means, but it's there.
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  It's really cool.
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  So we go down there, and it it's a nice place for water ceremonies because it's on Brush
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  Creek.
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  Go all the way to the Ohio to the Gulf Of Mexico, you will to Mississippi Gulf.
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  So all these mound builders, they use those river systems to build their calendars for
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  their sun worship and their planting and harvesting.
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  So they're farmers, basically, but ancient farmers.
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  So there's a a lot of, a mystery there.
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  And and what were they doing with the energy of the asteroid crater, being on a fault line of
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  all things, and then having all these weird minerals around them.
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  We've got cobalt, chromium, nickel, iridium, iron, and zinc, along with the host bedrock of
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  dolomite and, limestone.
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  So we have and it's on a grid.
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  You know?
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  That's the interesting it's a it's another point that's on the fortieth parallel.
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  So there's all these sacred sites along the fortieth parallel doing the same thing, And you
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  go like, what were these people doing?
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  What did they know that we don't know?
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  So that's the mystery.
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  Well and that's why we visit and we hold ceremony and we share the knowledge that we do
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  have and that has been given to us either from the stars or from ceremony previously, to
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  remember.
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  I I don't think that we're learning as much as we are remembering the knowledge that's been
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  stored in our DNA and is passed down through the generations, and that's exactly why I have
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  to go.
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  That's why spirit is calling me there.
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  My family regularly travel.
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  I grew up in the Black Hills Of South Dakota.
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  So I grew up in Deadwood, South Of Deadwood actually in the mountains, and, have always
• 25:46
  felt a deep spiritual connection to obviously Pahasapa, the the Black Hills and and these
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  places.
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  And I just I I just don't deny the calling.
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  And and I've I've always been someone who's very adept at manifesting.
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  Unfortunately, for me, I always manifested a lot of bad things into my life, Thomas.
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  And now now I'm trying to get better and better at manifesting the good things and and in some
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  ways, having the freedom and the ability to travel to to visit my star family at the
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  Serpent Mound Star Knowledge Spring Equinox Peace Summit is a is a very big blessing, and I
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  just I I thank you and Terry so much for I know it's a huge endeavor.
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  I I've thrown concerts my entire life for the last twenty five years, and that's a very small
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  scale.
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  That's just me and three other guys showing up to play music.
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  So to organize something of this magnitude, with these people coming from all over this
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  planet and and some of them may be farther away and, to to bless each other.
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  And I can't think of a better way to spend a weekend.
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  Well, that's all Terry's work.
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  She she sits there endlessly on a computer every day, year after year after year inviting
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  people in.
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  And, a lot of people just show up and say, hey.
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  Can I speak?
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  And and throughout the year.
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  And there are people who are coming to Serpent Mound.
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  So it's it's, it's interesting how all this is put together.
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  And you can't plan it.
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  It just it just happens.
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  It happens.
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  Right.
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  And that's why, like I said, I didn't plan on going.
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  I didn't plan on not going, but it was always if it happens, it happens.
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  And if it doesn't, well, then it you it wasn't meant to.
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  So, a big thank you to you, Terry.
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  I know you're on the phone and organizing and doing everything right now, but, bravo is in
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  order.
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  And I can't wait to see you all in just a week's time now.
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  So Hey.
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  Thomas, thank you for for jumping on with me today on short notice.
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  And I'm gonna turn around and probably release this tomorrow to get it out there and to
• 27:49
  promote for the event.
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  So
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  It's on Facebook, so it's on the star knowledge peace summit page, and it's also on
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  alternateuniverserockshop.com.
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  Okay.
• 28:00
  And that is your guys' rock shop then?
• 28:02
  Yes.
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  Alternate universe.
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  I should be able to remember that.
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  Well, I thank you so much.
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  We're gonna have all the links to everything in here.
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  Is there a cost involved with the event?
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  It's, $44 a day.
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  And what's the entire cost on that event?
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  88?
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  1 hundred?
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  It's a hundred 11 for all three days.
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  Go figure.
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  And we have an indigenous chef who brings in buffalo and all kinds of exotic food, yummy
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  foods, vegan foods, all different types of stuff.
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  But, they're chefs, and they they're they know what they're doing.
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  So we we'll be fed good.
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  I'm just thrilled to know you all, and I can't wait to see my family and have a little reunion
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  here on Serpent Mound.
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  And it's in the Woodland Altars, you said.
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  Correct?
• 28:53
  Yes.
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  It's three miles north of the rock shop on State Route 41 inside Fantastic.
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  Well, when I when I post this all tomorrow morning, I will have everything there and and a
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  great halo that's being made above your head with the light in the background there.
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  So thank thank you very much, Thomas, for being part of the scene and for being a part of my
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  life.
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  Alright.
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  Thanks for promoting this.
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  Appreciate it.
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  It's an honor.
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