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GLAM PASTOR'S WIFE SHOCK SUICIDE: FBI CALLED IN · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace Bobshell.
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  Speaker 2: Tonight, the FBI now called in to investigate the shooting
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  Speaker 2: death of Micah Miller, the glamorous wife of a local
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  Speaker 2: pastor who authorities say took her own life. Micah found
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  Speaker 2: dead in lumber State River Park from a gunshot wound,
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  Speaker 2: her family now urging authorities to further investigate the death.
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  Speaker 1: This as we learned his.
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  Speaker 2: Ex wife said much the same reports now servicing the
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  Speaker 2: pastor not only posted wait for it, intimate photos.
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  Speaker 3: Of Micah his wife online, but then apologized for his
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  Speaker 3: evil question which evil?
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  Speaker 2: Good evening. I'm Nancy Grace, this is Crime Stories. Thank
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  Speaker 2: you for being with us.
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  Speaker 4: She was so creative. Everything she did was so creative.
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  Speaker 1: What's the next picture? Okay?
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  Speaker 2: That is the estranged husband, John Paul Miller. We have
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  Speaker 2: guinea pigs and sometimes they hiccup and they go.
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  Speaker 1: That kind of sounds like that.
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  Speaker 2: That is seemingly very emotional video of the pastor at
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  Speaker 2: Solid Rock Ministries. He actually went on to deliver his
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  Speaker 2: wife's eulogy and is now claiming he tried to quote
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  Speaker 2: raise her from the dead. Now, I'm certainly not a
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  Speaker 2: Bible expert, but I can tell you, in the history
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  Speaker 2: of the Earth, I've only known of one person that
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  Speaker 2: raised somebody from the dead, and it ain't him. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: with me and our panel to make sense of what
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  Speaker 2: we know right now.
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  Speaker 1: Hold on, I.
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  Speaker 2: Want you to hear it from the horse's mouth.
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  Speaker 1: Listen.
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  Speaker 4: I got this leady mix to our body and it's
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  Speaker 4: been down with their body about four times this week.
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  Speaker 4: At each time it still didn't hit me. I thought
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  Speaker 4: she was going to wake up. You know. I even
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  Speaker 4: tried to raise her from the dead one time.
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  Speaker 1: This week, and okay, she's not waking up.
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  Speaker 2: Why because this beautiful young preacher's wife is dead from
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  Speaker 2: a gunshot wound.
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  Speaker 1: So far, we're not getting a.
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  Speaker 2: Lot of information about For instance, trajectory path was a
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  Speaker 2: gunshot residue test run on her hands?
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  Speaker 1: What do we really know?
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  Speaker 2: We know there was a nine to one one call,
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  Speaker 2: but what more do we know? This is authorities insists
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  Speaker 2: this was a suicide, but friends and family insist they
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  Speaker 2: want the FBI to investigate her death, and apparently that
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  Speaker 2: is happening. You were just seeing video from Solid Rock
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  Speaker 2: Ministries in a seemingly emotional eulogy. At this hour, the
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  Speaker 2: FBI reportedly opening an investigation after bombshells surrounding her death,
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  Speaker 2: including reports that her husband, John Paul Miller.
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  Speaker 1: Posted quote intimate, I hate to think what that is photos.
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  Speaker 2: Of his young wife online and then leaving no room
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  Speaker 2: for hey, did he do it or not? He apologized
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  Speaker 2: for his quote evil. And I want to warn everybody
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  Speaker 2: on the panel that we have just gotten a letter
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  Speaker 2: from the Russell b. Long Attorneys at Law threatening everybody
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  Speaker 2: if they say anything that disparages the pastor. But you know,
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  Speaker 2: it's really interesting that his former wife got a divorce
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  Speaker 2: because she claimed the preacher was having an affair on her,
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  Speaker 2: including with the babysitter. Who's the babysitter?
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  Speaker 1: Micah?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, back to our panel, joining me a special guest
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  Speaker 2: right now. This is Micah's sister, Sierra Sierra Francis with us. Sierra,
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  Speaker 2: First of all, we are so sorry about what you
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  Speaker 2: and your family are going through. A lot of us
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  Speaker 2: on the panel have been victims of violent crime, including myself,
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  Speaker 2: and I think the worst possible thing that could happen
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  Speaker 2: is to lose your child, suffering from losing your sibling,
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  Speaker 2: and what a beautiful, beautiful girl on the inside and
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  Speaker 2: the outside.
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  Speaker 1: Tell me about your sister.
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  Speaker 5: Micah was amazing. She was energetic, she was funny. She
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  Speaker 5: was always trying to make sure everybody around her was happy,
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  Speaker 5: and she was always trying to include everyone. She was
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  Speaker 5: very passionate about her missions, trips to Kenya and nutrition.
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  Speaker 5: She was just an all around wonderful, god fearing woman.
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  Speaker 1: When did she meet the preacher that became her husband.
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  Speaker 5: It would have been probably in two thousand and seven,
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  Speaker 5: two thousand and eight, when our family moved to Myrtle
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  Speaker 5: Beach collectively our stepfather and mother moved our whole family
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  Speaker 5: there and we began to attend Solid Rock when it
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  Speaker 5: was a smaller congregation of maybe thirty forty people.
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  Speaker 1: How old was Micah at that time, probably around thirteen
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  Speaker 1: or fourteen.
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  Speaker 2: Is that when she met the preacher, John Paul Miller,
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  Speaker 2: that she would marry.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, that would have been around that time.
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  Speaker 2: Is it true that that time he John Paul Miller
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  Speaker 2: was her youth minister?
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  Speaker 5: I believe so. I know that he was involved in
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  Speaker 5: pretty much every aspect of the church because it was
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  Speaker 5: such a small church.
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  Speaker 2: I'm very curious also about everything was said in the eulogy.
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  Speaker 2: You know what, I'm very curious about how all this
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  Speaker 2: is striking you. Sierra, Micah's sister, take a listen to this.
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  Speaker 6: While Michah Miller's family and friends hold service beachside for Micah,
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  Speaker 6: John Paul Miller delivers a eulogy for his estranged wife,
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  Speaker 6: Michael Miller at Solid Rocket Market. Common. Miller seems to
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  Speaker 6: cry without any tears while talking about how he tried
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  Speaker 6: to raise Micah from the dead. Claims he laid down
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  Speaker 6: with his wife about four times, and when he took
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  Speaker 6: a dogtag necklace Micah had given him to the mall
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  Speaker 6: to get it fixed, he saw a woman wearing Micah's
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  Speaker 6: dress with the same tattoo and hairstyle. He calls out Micah,
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  Speaker 6: but it was her sister. Thought he had raised Micah
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  Speaker 6: from the dead.
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  Speaker 1: Two sister, Sierra, did that really happen?
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  Speaker 5: It did? And I was carrying my children at the
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  Speaker 5: and my son was very afraid, and he said, we
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  Speaker 5: have to go right now.
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  Speaker 7: Why was your son of frid Because we're very open
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  Speaker 7: with my son. Micah has come to my house multiple
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  Speaker 7: times to get away from her estranged husband. So my
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  Speaker 7: son is very aware of the danger surrounding him, to
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  Speaker 7: the point where whenever Micah passed away and my son
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  Speaker 7: came home and I had to tell him that she
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  Speaker 7: had passed away, he said, this is all John Paul's fault.
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  Speaker 8: I've had a lot of women that have reached out
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  Speaker 8: to me about situations of abuse, and I just want
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  Speaker 8: to tell you what a lot of people have told
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  Speaker 8: me lately and reminded me because I think I forgot,
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  Speaker 8: I knew, but for I pushed it in the back
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  Speaker 8: of my head just because of my situation.
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  Speaker 9: But you are the bride of Christ. God hates divorce.
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  Speaker 9: But why According to everybody I've asked and the scriptures
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  Speaker 9: that I've found, it's because it hurts people. But does
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  Speaker 9: abuse hurt people? How do you think God feels about that?
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  Speaker 2: Joining me right now is another special guest, Tracy Brown,
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  Speaker 2: who is a body language expert author of How to
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  Speaker 2: Detect Lies, Fraud and Identity Theft. You can find her
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  Speaker 2: at body languagetrainer dot com. Tracy, thank you so much
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  Speaker 2: for being with us. I know you have studied Pastor
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  Speaker 2: John Paul Miller's movements his speech. I was referring earlier
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  Speaker 2: to the Hiccups, which apparently was a fascimile of crying.
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  Speaker 2: And I also noticed that one of his assistants came
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  Speaker 2: out and gave him a box of hankies and he went, now,
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  Speaker 2: I don't need that because there didn't seem to be
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  Speaker 2: any actual tears, just the.
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  Speaker 1: Sounds.
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  Speaker 2: But I'm just a lay person, I'm just a trial lawyer.
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  Speaker 2: What do you the body language experts see.
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  Speaker 10: We didn't see tears, we didn't see eye redness. And
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  Speaker 10: the most important thing that we saw is that the emotions,
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  Speaker 10: the sadness, got shut on and off like a light switch.
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  Speaker 10: And that's not how emotions work. Emotions are chemically based,
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  Speaker 10: and so they build slowly and they dissipate slowly like
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  Speaker 10: the chemicals have a half life. And so this is
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  Speaker 10: the first indication of faked sadness here. Now what's more
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  Speaker 10: important is when I profile people want because I listen
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  Speaker 10: closely and I want to understand what does this person
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  Speaker 10: want me to know about them the most, and what
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  Speaker 10: he's doing throughout this whole eulogy is selling how much
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  Speaker 10: he has tried to please her over their life together,
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  Speaker 10: and also what a good guy he is. So this
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  Speaker 10: is the subtext of this is more of a sales
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  Speaker 10: pitch about what a great person he is. Now if
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  Speaker 10: we dive deep into to his exact words, what he
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  Speaker 10: does throughout this And here's one of the statements, and
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  Speaker 10: this is a quote, everyone knew how beautiful she was
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  Speaker 10: on the outside. Only a spouse, okay, So he didn't
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  Speaker 10: say him, He said a spouse. That's distancing. Only a
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  Speaker 10: spouse knows how beautiful that person is. That person again
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  Speaker 10: distances how beautiful that person is on the inside. So
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  Speaker 10: he has statements similar to this throughout the eulogy where
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  Speaker 10: he distances himself from her. Another one is imagine being
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  Speaker 10: married to that right, which is another psychological emotional distance
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  Speaker 10: statement that we see from him. And what's missing because
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  Speaker 10: the other thing that I do when I profile people
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  Speaker 10: is I go, okay, what's missing here? What's missing are
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  Speaker 10: the typical things that you would hear in a eulogy
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  Speaker 10: from a husband, right, which is how much he misses her,
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  Speaker 10: how shocked he is, because what he says is it
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  Speaker 10: hasn't hit me.
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  Speaker 1: He says it hasn't hit me.
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  Speaker 10: He says it two to three times in there, and
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  Speaker 10: so we don't. He's not revealing any emotional attachment to
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  Speaker 10: what happened. Now, he also says that he's he's not
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  Speaker 10: talking about how much he loved her. He doesn't talk
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  Speaker 10: about any of those things that would be typical in
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  Speaker 10: a speech such as this. So all these things really
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  Speaker 10: add up to someone who is not being genuine in
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  Speaker 10: their emotion. Now, we don't have a smoking gun with
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  Speaker 10: what he said. I'd like to see an interview with
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  Speaker 10: him specifically about this, with like like a police interview,
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  Speaker 10: which I haven't haven't seen.
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  Speaker 1: But we have some disturbing behavior here crime stories with
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  Speaker 1: Nancy Grace, isn't it true? To Sierra?
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  Speaker 2: This is Michael's sister who is literally speaking to us
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  Speaker 2: through her tears, real tears. At one point, he was
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  Speaker 2: trying to apologize for posting nude photos of her. I
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  Speaker 2: assume they were intimate, so I can only guess nude
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  Speaker 2: online and said he wanted to quote attack and cause
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  Speaker 2: pain for Micah. You know what, as many arguments as
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  Speaker 2: my husband and I have had over the years, especially
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  Speaker 2: since we had.
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  Speaker 1: Children, I've never wanted to hurt David.
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  Speaker 2: And I can honestly say he's never wanted to actually
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  Speaker 2: hurt me in any way, even when we're angry about
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  Speaker 2: some issue. But to write out apologize for posting nude
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  Speaker 2: photos of your wife online and say I'm sorry, I
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  Speaker 2: wanted to attack and cause you pain.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, that's very normal behavior for John Paul. He's always
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  Speaker 5: done that to her.
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  Speaker 7: He's a very Why do you say that he's That's
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  Speaker 7: what he always does.
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  Speaker 5: If he can't get his way, he will act as
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  Speaker 5: a child. He will throw a tantrum, he will cause
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  Speaker 5: a scene, and he will make sure that the other
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  Speaker 5: person suffers. And like you said, there's emails proving it.
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  Speaker 8: I've had a lot of women that have reached out
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  Speaker 8: to me about situations of abuse, and I just want
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  Speaker 8: to tell you what a lot of people have told
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  Speaker 8: me lately and reminded me because I think I forgot
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  Speaker 8: I knew, but for I pushed it in the back of.
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  Speaker 1: My head.
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  Speaker 9: Just because of my situation. But you are the bride
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  Speaker 9: of Christ. God hates divorce.
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  Speaker 1: But why?
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  Speaker 9: According to everybody I've asked and the scriptures that I've found,
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  Speaker 9: it's because it hurts people. But does abuse hurt people?
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  Speaker 9: How do you think God feels about that?
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  Speaker 2: I want our body language expert, Tracy Brown, the body
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  Speaker 2: language trainer, to listen to this more of the preacher.
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  Speaker 1: And remember everybody he sent a legal threat letter stating,
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  Speaker 1: don't talk about me.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, let's listen to the words from the horse's mouth.
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  Speaker 4: I can't wait to see her again one day. She
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  Speaker 4: was so creative. She it was just always just coming
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  Speaker 4: out of her. Imagine being married to that. It was
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  Speaker 4: like that in her householl.
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  Speaker 1: The time, dear Lord in Heaven.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, that is a seemingly emotional video from Solid Rock Ministries.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I've got so many questions for Sierra. But
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  Speaker 2: to our body language expert Tracy, here's a few things
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  Speaker 2: I noticed, having put literally thousands of witnesses on the
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  Speaker 2: stand for direct and cross examination. For instance, the pacing
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  Speaker 2: back and forth, the smiling inappropriately during the eulogy, the
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  Speaker 2: wiping tears over and over that don't exist, the rubbing
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  Speaker 2: of the hands repeatedly throughout, the touching the head, touching
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  Speaker 2: the hair, there's nothing to adjust.
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  Speaker 1: His hair is like that long. What is he? What
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  Speaker 1: is he doing?
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  Speaker 2: The clapping, the clapping, and the seemingly endless I.
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  Speaker 1: Don't know what what is that?
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  Speaker 10: There's small repetitive movements that will all do when we
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  Speaker 10: need to let off stress. So this is a high
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  Speaker 10: stress moment for him. Now we also saw what I
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  Speaker 10: thought was really interesting and what you don't see from
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  Speaker 10: a lot of preachers. There are a lot of people
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  Speaker 10: that are used to speaking. Is his hand in his
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  Speaker 10: pocket and I was I looked at it pretty closely,
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  Speaker 10: and it might even be in a fist and his uh.
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  Speaker 10: And that's that's when we're holding something back. We're holding
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  Speaker 10: back information, or we're holding back emotion. If that hand
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  Speaker 10: indeed is in a fist, that says anger. So all
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  Speaker 10: of these things add up to something that that our
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  Speaker 10: mind sees and it goes, wait a minute, something's not
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  Speaker 10: right here, something's not right here. And that's because the
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  Speaker 10: emotions are not genuine. And you know, I'm not going
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  Speaker 10: to speculate as to why they're not genuine, genuine right.
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  Speaker 10: Body language tells you what's on someone's mind. It doesn't
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  Speaker 10: tell you why you have to put together a list
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  Speaker 10: of that. I think there's plenty of evidence that other
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  Speaker 10: folks have for that. But what we're seeing some is
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  Speaker 10: is addition, we're seeing disingenuous behavior.
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  Speaker 11: I pray for your heat circumstances would change. I pray
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  Speaker 11: that the fear inside would flee and Jesus nay I
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  Speaker 11: pray that pray through what happened today, A pray miracle
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  Speaker 11: over alive.
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  Speaker 12: Jesus Name in Jesus Name.
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  Speaker 13: Micah contacted police after her estranged husband posted an indecent
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  Speaker 13: photo of her on a Facebook group called Big Boobs
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  Speaker 13: and Nice Curves. Police told Micah since the photo was
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  Speaker 13: posted anonymously, there was nothing they could do. John Paul
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  Speaker 13: Miller apologized to Micah via email, telling her, I'm sorry
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  Speaker 13: for putting a picture of you on the internet. He added,
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  Speaker 13: I just wanted to try and hurt you. He also
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  Speaker 13: included it was evil of me to do that.
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  Speaker 1: Evil of me to do that.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, Curious after an intimate photo of his wife unclad
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  Speaker 2: was posted online by him, and he admits.
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  Speaker 1: That why no charges? But I don't understand. Why not charges?
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  Speaker 1: Why no arrest? But that's not all. Listen.
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  Speaker 6: Just weeks before her death, Michah Miller calls police for
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  Speaker 6: help when she finds a tire on her car's flat
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  Speaker 6: least discover a tire deflator is used on the tire.
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  Speaker 6: Micah goes to East Coast Honda Myrtle b, South Carolina
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  Speaker 6: to get a new tire, where John Paul Miller shows
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  Speaker 6: up that you get into an argument. Video shows John
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  Speaker 6: Paul Miller aggressively walking around Micah threatening to post a
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  Speaker 6: picture online, while Micah says walk away. A mechanic later
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  Speaker 6: shows Micah a GPS tracking device have been placed on
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  Speaker 6: her car.
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  Speaker 1: I'm very disturbed about this.
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  Speaker 2: Kela Brantley is joining us along with Micah's sister, Sierra
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  Speaker 2: Francis Keller Brantley, investigative reporter, dailymail dot com.
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  Speaker 1: Keilla, we have two incidents.
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  Speaker 2: One admitted, one observed that they're both illegal. Posting photos
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  Speaker 2: of a woman or anyone online where they are nude
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  Speaker 2: or partially nude against their consent is illegal. Placing a
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  Speaker 2: tracking device or cutting someone's car tires illegal?
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  Speaker 1: Why no arrest? Caela Brantley Well.
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  Speaker 14: According to police, they allegedly told Micah that despite all
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  Speaker 14: this evidence, that the photo that she allegedly sent him,
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  Speaker 14: once you send a photo, it's now no longer your
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  Speaker 14: property and that now belongs to her husband, and also
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  Speaker 14: that in the photo there was actually muzzing around any
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  Speaker 14: parts that would make it fully nude, which then means
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  Speaker 14: that it apparently does not count as revenge porn. So basically,
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  Speaker 14: when Micah came to them. They told her that there
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  Speaker 14: was nothing that they could do.
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  Speaker 2: Okay to Regina Ward, she was the lawyer for Micah
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  Speaker 2: on the divorce proceeding now here with Micah's sister, Sierra, Regina,
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  Speaker 2: that's not true.
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  Speaker 1: When you post a.
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  Speaker 2: Photo of someone without their clothes on against their will,
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  Speaker 2: that's illegal.
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  Speaker 15: Yes, in more ways than one.
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  Speaker 2: Well, what I don't understand is why there weren't any charges.
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  Speaker 2: I guess that's my question to you. Why weren't there charges?
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  Speaker 15: As far as I know on that it's the police
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  Speaker 15: at the position that it was posted anonymously, as I understand,
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  Speaker 15: therefore not a number of quote evidence to say that
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  Speaker 15: it was him. I don't think he made an omission
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  Speaker 15: until later. It'll be interesting to see if they'll follow
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  Speaker 15: up now with that crime and pursue it.
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  Speaker 1: Sierra is joining me.
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  Speaker 2: Micah's sister, Sierra, Your sister, Micah never gave him permission
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  Speaker 2: to post that photo of her. He has apologized, He
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  Speaker 2: has apologized for the car incident.
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  Speaker 1: Why no charges?
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  Speaker 5: Like Regina said, I would hope that the police will
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  Speaker 5: follow up now that there is proof of these alleged crimes.
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  Speaker 5: That he was keeping his hands clean up and making
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  Speaker 5: it so difficult for mikel approve. And now that he's
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  Speaker 5: admitted that he did commit these crimes, I see no
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  Speaker 5: reason why they cannot hold him accountable to.
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  Speaker 2: Brian Foley joining me, high profile lawyer, former chief prosecutor
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  Speaker 2: how Harris County, Texas, and author of What Prosecutors Don't
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  Speaker 2: Tell You, Brian Foley, let's just break it down. Typically,
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  Speaker 2: when somebody posts revenge porn, they won't send it from
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  Speaker 2: their account, They come up with a fake account, they
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  Speaker 2: do it at the public library, some way that it
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  Speaker 2: can't be easily traced. But guess what, it can be traced.
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  Speaker 2: That's what the police or the sheriffs are supposed to do,
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  Speaker 2: trace it and prosecute it, not say, oh it was anonymous.
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  Speaker 1: Sorry, that's not how it works. Foley.
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  Speaker 16: Well, in some instances, it's because the image itself doesn't qualify,
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  Speaker 16: Like for example, in Texas, we have a rule that
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  Speaker 16: says the person's face has to be identifiable. You have
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  Speaker 16: to be able to say it's a specific person. So
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  Speaker 16: if you cut out the face, it's no longer under
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  Speaker 16: that status. It sounds like there was some blurring that
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  Speaker 16: happened to these photos in particular, and the police keep doing,
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  Speaker 16: you know, in the original investigation, and I guess in
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  Speaker 16: this revenge point investigation, they keep following the law, which
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  Speaker 16: as a defense attorney, I think it's a good thing.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, hold on, let's let's find out more about that photo.
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  Speaker 2: Sierra Francis, this is Mike's sister. Tell me about the
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  Speaker 2: revenge porn that was posted of your sister.
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  Speaker 1: What was it?
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  Speaker 4: So?
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  Speaker 5: John Paul had assumed basically Mike's identity while he had
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  Speaker 5: her hospitalized. He took her Facebook, her cell phone, her laptop,
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  Speaker 5: her iCloud, he took everything, and he was pretending to
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  Speaker 5: be her, texting people, emailing people, posting on her behalf
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  Speaker 5: as though he was her. And at one point he
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  Speaker 5: posted a topless photo of her, her face in the picture,
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  Speaker 5: and he added some sort of que over it, like
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  Speaker 5: if you took a highlighter across the front of her
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  Speaker 5: chest just to barely cover you could still see what
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  Speaker 5: exactly what it was. But I guess he knew that
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  Speaker 5: since he posted it one off of Mike's account against
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  Speaker 5: her without her permission, he thought he would get away
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  Speaker 5: with it, and to this point he has.
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  Speaker 2: And there's the issue of the flat tires in the
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  Speaker 2: GPS tracking device, what she apologized for. Reportedly, of course,
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  Speaker 2: he is claiming and insisting that he is not guilty.
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  Speaker 2: Has not been named as a person of interest or
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  Speaker 2: suspect in her death. Guys, I want to go on
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  Speaker 2: quickly to the bombshell. Now the FBI reportedly being called
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  Speaker 2: in to investigate her death. To Sierra, this is Micah's sister,
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  Speaker 2: What is it you want the FBI to do?
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  Speaker 3: So?
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  Speaker 5: We know that Robason County has said that the FBI
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  Speaker 5: is investigating, but we don't know exactly what their investigation
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  Speaker 5: will pertain to. I would love for them to go
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  Speaker 5: and investigate what the cops were able to discover and
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  Speaker 5: everything leading up to her passing away, because, as everyone
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: has uncovered, there's a lot more to the story than
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  Speaker 5: what meets the eye.
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  Speaker 9: Even an earthly spouse who's a good spouse when they
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  Speaker 9: know that their bride is being hurt, Just imagine what
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  Speaker 9: an earthly spouse does. What do you think your heavenly
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  Speaker 9: spouse does when you're the bride of Christ and he
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  Speaker 9: sees his bride going through abuse and hurt?
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  Speaker 1: What do you think he thinks about that?
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  Speaker 13: John Paul Miller's ex wife, Alison Miller, filed for divorce
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  Speaker 13: from John Paul Miller after finding out he was having
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  Speaker 13: an affair with their babysitter and his best friend's wife, Micah.
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  Speaker 13: Micah Miller was married to John Paul Miller's best friend,
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  Speaker 13: Jeremy Deese, whom Micah married when she was just eighteen.
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  Speaker 1: Wow. Okay, so let me understand.
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  Speaker 2: To Caleb Brantley, joining us investigative reporter with dailymail dot Com.
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  Speaker 2: The other wife, the previous wife, Allison. I've been reading
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  Speaker 2: her Affi Davids in her divorce, and in her Affi Davids,
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  Speaker 2: she's that John Paul Miller who is threatening anybody that,
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  Speaker 2: let me see defames him. So let's just commit to
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  Speaker 2: speaking the truth.
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  Speaker 1: I'm down with that.
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  Speaker 2: The first wife says that church leaders demanded he seek
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  Speaker 2: counseling for sex addiction, but when he refused, the majority
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  Speaker 2: of the church left the congregation. She also states that
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  Speaker 2: he was having multiple affairs.
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  Speaker 1: And that.
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  Speaker 2: Trying to dodge alimony payments, he showed up in court
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  Speaker 2: in a wheelchair and claimed he fell out of a tree.
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  Speaker 1: And broke both legs.
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  Speaker 2: That's the first wife, and I'm getting this from her
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  Speaker 2: affidavits and her claims, what about it, Caleb Brantley, Yeah.
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  Speaker 14: That's right, Nancy. So dailymail dot Com we obtained that
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  Speaker 14: Affidavid and there were bombshells after bombshells in it. Now
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  Speaker 14: she accuses him of having a porn addiction, accuses him
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  Speaker 14: of having a prostitute addiction, a sex addiction, and apparently
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  Speaker 14: he did seek counseling or refuse to seek counseling after
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  Speaker 14: the church pressured him to do so, which then led
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  Speaker 14: to a lot of his congregation leaving, because obviously you
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  Speaker 14: don't want to have a pastor who's accused. She does
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  Speaker 14: also go on to say that Micah was their babysitter
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  Speaker 14: and that they started having a relationship while they were married.
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  Speaker 14: And of course he's fourteen years older than Micah, So
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  Speaker 14: when she's saying that he groomed her if they did
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  Speaker 14: meet when she was thirteen years old, he's fourteen years
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  Speaker 14: her senior, an adult with children, married, And.
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  Speaker 2: I want to point out, in the legal letter that
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  Speaker 2: was sent to us by the preacher's lawyer, our client
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  Speaker 2: refuges any report that suggests he abused his wife. Recent
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: reports claim pastor Miller quote groomed his wife from the
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  Speaker 2: age of ten, that in fact, she moved to Myrtle
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  Speaker 2: Beach at age fifteen, and I believe that is when
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: he was her youth. Minister, Sierra, what went through your
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  Speaker 2: mind when you learned your sister had been shocked?
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  Speaker 5: Instinctively, I just assumed that we would have an arrest
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  Speaker 5: and we would be able to finally have some closure
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  Speaker 5: of what she was dealing with in all the terror
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  Speaker 5: that she was living through. And obviously we haven't gotten that.
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  Speaker 5: And that's pretty rough.
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  Speaker 1: Guys.
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  Speaker 2: We were speaking to Sierra Francis, this is Micah's sister.
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  Speaker 2: How did you discover your sister had been shot?
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  Speaker 5: I got a call from my brother that Micah's roommate
• 27:53
  Speaker 5: was trying to find out where Micah was. She said
• 27:56
  Speaker 5: that Pelissa showed up at her house because Micah did
• 27:58
  Speaker 5: not live with drum Paul, the police showed up to
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  Speaker 5: his roommate's house or too, I'm sorry, to her roommate's house.
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  Speaker 5: And she then reached out to the family, and my
• 28:06
  Speaker 5: brother called me and said, something's wrong. The police are
• 28:09
  Speaker 5: at Diana's house. We need to find Micah. So I immediately
• 28:13
  Speaker 5: called another one of Micah's friends and she informed me
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  Speaker 5: that John Paul had said that Micah was dead. So
• 28:20
  Speaker 5: I immediately called John Paul's sister because she lives at John
• 28:23
  Speaker 5: Paul's house. And John Paul was on the phone with
• 28:27
  Speaker 5: the hospital and he was seemingly hysterical. It sounded very fake,
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: and he was saying, why would she do this, yere, why.
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  Speaker 1: Was she sad?
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  Speaker 5: Who was she seeing in Lumberton?
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  Speaker 1: Micah is dead?
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  Speaker 5: And he was just going on and on, and I said,
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  Speaker 5: are you joking, John Paul? You know exactly why she
• 28:43
  Speaker 5: would have done this if it was her. And I
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  Speaker 5: said that you have been making her life hell for
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  Speaker 5: the past couple of months, and he hung up on me.
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  Speaker 5: Then he texted my family and said, this is what
• 28:52
  Speaker 5: happens when you tell someone to divorce the man they love.
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  Speaker 5: This is he said, good job for instance family, and
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  Speaker 5: that's how the rest of my family felt about them.
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  Speaker 1: Mike had passed away. Okay, wait, would you repeat that place?
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  Speaker 1: I didn't know that.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, he sent a text message out to my parents
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  Speaker 5: and siblings. I'm not sure exactly who all was in
• 29:10
  Speaker 5: the chat. It was a previous chat. He just pulled
• 29:12
  Speaker 5: it up and he texted saying this is what happens
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  Speaker 5: when you tell someone to divorce the man they love.
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  Speaker 5: Good job. France's family, and that's how he informed you know,
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  Speaker 5: my siblings and my parents and Micah have passed away.
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  Speaker 2: Again, he is not a suspect in the death of Micah.
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  Speaker 2: It has been ruled a suicide. Friends and family are
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  Speaker 2: begging the FBI to further investigate crime stories with Nancy
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  Speaker 2: Grace to Sierra Francis, I'm concerned and this is what
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  Speaker 2: concerns me. The alleged revenge porn for which he apologized
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  Speaker 2: for doing it, the slashing of the tires, which reportedly
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: he apologized for doing, the tracking device, all of that
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  Speaker 2: is illegal and no charges were ever brought. Do you
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  Speaker 2: trust the local investigation?
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  Speaker 1: What is your hope for the FBI?
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  Speaker 2: And again, the pastor has not been named a person
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  Speaker 2: of interest or suspect.
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  Speaker 1: What is your hope for the FBI? Sierra?
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  Speaker 5: I hope that they will pursue this into the fullest
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  Speaker 5: of their legal obligation instead of just Micah getting dead
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  Speaker 5: end after dead end after dead end, every time she
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  Speaker 5: followed a police report, every time she called and asked
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  Speaker 5: them a question, Hey, what can I do? How do
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  Speaker 5: I pursue this. She was getting basically, you know, doors
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  Speaker 5: shut in her face every single time. So I hope
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  Speaker 5: that now, with the gravity of things and how extreme
• 30:54
  Speaker 5: and how nationwide this has gotten, maybe they will look
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  Speaker 5: and see, you know, either one they need to readdress
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  Speaker 5: some of their protocols, or too they need to look
• 31:05
  Speaker 5: at their people and say, did you follow a protocol
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  Speaker 5: and did you do your fullest extent or were you
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  Speaker 5: just not wanting to get involved because it's a marital dispute,
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  Speaker 5: because obviously to her it was a big deal.
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  Speaker 11: I pray for your healing circumstances would change.
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  Speaker 12: I pray that the fear inside would flee.
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  Speaker 11: And Jesus Name, I pray that a pray through what
• 31:33
  Speaker 11: happened today, a pray miracle.
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  Speaker 12: Sovery your live in Jesus Name, in Jesus' name.
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  Speaker 8: I've had a lot of women that have reached out
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  Speaker 8: to me about situations of abuse, and I just want
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  Speaker 8: to tell you what a lot of people have told
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  Speaker 8: me lately and reminded me because I think I forgot,
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  Speaker 8: I knew, but for I pushed.
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  Speaker 1: It in the back of my head.
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  Speaker 9: Just because of my situation. But you are the bride
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  Speaker 9: of Christ. God hates divorce. But why According to everybody
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  Speaker 9: I've asked and the scriptures that I've found, it's because
• 32:23
  Speaker 9: it hurts people. But does abuse hurt people? How do
• 32:28
  Speaker 9: you think God feels about that?
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: You're hearing Michah Miller posting about the suffering and the
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: pain she says she was going through. A reminder, authorities
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  Speaker 2: have not charged her husband in any way with her death.
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: Joining me in.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: All Star panel, but now special guest is with us
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: Alicia Young. Alisha is a very dear friend of Micah's
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: and a former friend of John Paul Miller's, the estranged husband.
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: Why are you considering yourself a former friend of John
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  Speaker 2: Paul Miller's.
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  Speaker 17: So during our time there, my husband was actually the
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  Speaker 17: worship leader when we were there, and so we were
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  Speaker 17: very close with them because we were in the inner circle.
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  Speaker 17: And when we left the church, our friendship between me
• 33:19
  Speaker 17: and Mica got severed because of him and our relationship
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  Speaker 17: with John Paul. We ended that because he didn't want
• 33:29
  Speaker 17: to listen to anything that we had to say. All
• 33:33
  Speaker 17: the issues that we were seeing with him and the church.
• 33:36
  Speaker 17: What issues so with how they treat women and how
• 33:39
  Speaker 17: I got treated at the church, is basically they celebrate
• 33:44
  Speaker 17: men and with women, women are only supposed to be
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  Speaker 17: seen and not heard. He didn't like when a woman
• 33:52
  Speaker 17: had a strong opinion or was, you know, kind of
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  Speaker 17: outgoing in a way. I was trying to find a
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  Speaker 17: different word. But it was all about the men in
• 34:05
  Speaker 17: the church, and that he would stay in sermons of men.
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  Speaker 17: You just need to go find a hot wife, because
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  Speaker 17: that's what matters, and with the women of the church.
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  Speaker 17: Like I wasn't allowed to do anything in the church
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  Speaker 17: at all. He didn't want me on the platform to
• 34:22
  Speaker 17: any capacity because of how I looked and because of
• 34:25
  Speaker 17: how old I was. I was already in my thirties.
• 34:28
  Speaker 17: I was heavier at the time, and I wasn't some
• 34:31
  Speaker 17: young twenty five year old with a hot body. So
• 34:33
  Speaker 17: he didn't want me at all on the platform.
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: Two Brian Foley joining us or now defense attorney and
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  Speaker 2: former Chief Prosecutor Harris County, author of What Prosecutors Don't
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: Tell You. Brian Foley, I think that authorities are dug
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: in that this was a suicide, but I want you
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: to listen to this.
• 34:54
  Speaker 6: As carbon monoxide begins to fill his drug cabin. Conrad
• 34:57
  Speaker 6: Roy the third gets out, texting Michelle Carter, we'll do
• 35:00
  Speaker 6: it another day. Carter text to Roy, are challenging, telling
• 35:03
  Speaker 6: him he overthinks things. Carter texts, Roy, you just said
• 35:07
  Speaker 6: you were going to do it tonight and now you're
• 35:09
  Speaker 6: saying eventually. Carter tells Roy could get back in the truck.
• 35:12
  Speaker 6: Conrad Roy the Third gets back in the truck. Authorities
• 35:15
  Speaker 6: discovered the body of Conrad Roy the Third in his
• 35:18
  Speaker 6: pickup truck parked outside of kmart at Fairhaven, Massachusetts, the
• 35:21
  Speaker 6: next day.
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  Speaker 4: He was eighteen.
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  Speaker 2: My point, Brian Foley in that case and many others
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: like it, which we have here to name for you
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  Speaker 2: if necessary, Michelle Carter was prosecuted and convicted for aiding
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: and abetting the suicide of Conrad Roy. The texts and
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: conversations she had with him, the messages are sickening, basically
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: goading him to commit suicide.
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  Speaker 1: So my question to you is.
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: Your thoughts on defending the pastor against claims he goaded
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: Micah into committing suicide like Michelle Carter and others.
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  Speaker 16: So first we started with it sounds like everybody's on
• 36:07
  Speaker 16: the same page. He didn't pull the trigger, he wasn't there.
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  Speaker 16: It was Mikah who pulled the trigger ending her own life.
• 36:15
  Speaker 16: If we're that far, then the only question we have
• 36:18
  Speaker 16: left is as public policy, are people responsible for the
• 36:23
  Speaker 16: actions of others? And we have criminal culpability in some
• 36:26
  Speaker 16: instances if you're both committing a bank robbery, if you're
• 36:29
  Speaker 16: actively engaged in it. JP was not actively engaged in it.
• 36:33
  Speaker 16: We have information from her cell phone. The police have
• 36:36
  Speaker 16: already released it. She looked up the area in that
• 36:40
  Speaker 16: part of the town. And we're kind of assuming that
• 36:44
  Speaker 16: he's both bumbling around and can't keep things together, and
• 36:49
  Speaker 16: he's obviously lying on the you know, at the pulpit,
• 36:52
  Speaker 16: it's a suicide, and to hold somebody else responsible you
• 36:56
  Speaker 16: have to think, well, we're talking about JP and airing
• 36:59
  Speaker 16: out all of his information. If he were to commit suicide,
• 37:01
  Speaker 16: are we responsible for that?
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: No way.
• 37:04
  Speaker 16: Those are individual decisions, and the Conrad roycase is also
• 37:08
  Speaker 16: very different.
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  Speaker 4: I got a call late last night. My wife has
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: passed me. Yeah it was it was self induced and
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: it was up in North Carolina.
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: That is from our friends at Solid Rock Ministries and
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: seemingly emotional comment by her then husband.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: They were not yet divorced.
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: Many people disagree with any such suggestion that there was
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: emotion there that said reports. The FBI are now entering
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: the investigation. Cali Brandtley joining me, investigative reporter, dailymail dot Com.
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: What is it assumed the FBI can do?
• 37:50
  Speaker 14: Well, Nancy, you're looking at everything that we said before.
• 37:53
  Speaker 14: Why didn't the police get involved after there was a
• 37:56
  Speaker 14: nude photo? Why didn't police get involved after the fact
• 38:00
  Speaker 14: that he admitted allegedly to putting a tracker in her
• 38:04
  Speaker 14: car or slashing her tire. So I think the FBI
• 38:07
  Speaker 14: coming in is really going to push this case forward
• 38:10
  Speaker 14: and potentially and hopefully do what the local police could not.
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm curious.
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: Is it true, to anyone's knowledge what has been reported
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: that he actually went into court in a wheelchair when
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: he was finding alimony payments and said that he fell
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: out of a tree and broke both legs. Caleb Brantley,
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: Is that true?
• 38:31
  Speaker 14: Well, that was one of the things that was mentioned
• 38:33
  Speaker 14: in the report that we did get from twenty seventeen
• 38:36
  Speaker 14: from his ex wife Alison. Now she mentioned that she
• 38:40
  Speaker 14: mentioned a lot of instances of abuse of infidelity. So
• 38:44
  Speaker 14: that's just one of many big issues that we're having
• 38:46
  Speaker 14: here and going back to Micah and.
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: The local police.
• 38:50
  Speaker 14: She reported eight times in the months leading up to
• 38:53
  Speaker 14: her death to police, with clearly no nothing to be done.
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: We await the entry and the involvement of the FBI
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: in the investigation not only Micah's death, but any related
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: facts leading up to that moment.
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  Speaker 1: As of now, it has been.
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: Ruled a suicide and the husband, the estranged husband, John
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: Paul Miller, has not been named a suspect. Let's stop
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: and remember American hero police Officer Kevin Cram just thirty three,
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: shot and killed in the line of duty, survived by
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: a grieving wife Laura, and children Archer and Weston and Ira.
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: American hero police Officer Kevin Cram. Thank you for being
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: with us tonight. Thank you to our MSM viewers, and
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: thank you to our guests. Nancy Gray signing off, I'll
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  Speaker 2: see you tomorrow night six and nine o'clock sharp Eastern
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: and until then, good night, friend,