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Dan Sorensen previews Camp Scalley, How much of a strength will the Utes passing game be (?) + more · The Sean O'Connell Show

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  Speaker 1: You tuned to the Shan o'conno Show for the Murdoch
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  Speaker 2: Alf Am, Well, welcome back to the Shot O'Connell show.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome in, Dan Sorensen, Utah football insider publisher at utzoned
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  Speaker 1: dot com.
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  Speaker 3: Dan, Welcome back to the show.
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  Speaker 4: How are you doing well? How are you doing?
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  Speaker 3: I'm doing all right. Man.
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  Speaker 1: We are one week away from Utah opening fall camp,
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  Speaker 1: and that's where we get to stop pretending we know
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  Speaker 1: what we're talking about and start actually getting an idea
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  Speaker 1: that we might know what we're talking about.
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  Speaker 5: I hear you are. Our long national nightmare is over.
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  Speaker 4: Football is coming.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, it's so close. Before we get into anything even
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  Speaker 1: remotely serious. Because of Aaron Donald, I got thinking about,
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  Speaker 1: you know, wild hypotheticals. If you could take a former
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  Speaker 1: ute who is we'll call it in retirement because of
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  Speaker 1: lack of eligibility, or you know, they just moved on
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  Speaker 1: in life because all college athletes have to, and you
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  Speaker 1: could drop that former ute onto this roster and help
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  Speaker 1: them win a championship.
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  Speaker 3: We'll assume that they're back in their early twenties.
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  Speaker 1: We'll assume that they're fully healthy and freaks like Aaron
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  Speaker 1: Donald who work out all the time and earn great shape.
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  Speaker 1: But what former would you put on this roster to
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  Speaker 1: give them a better chance of making a college football
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  Speaker 1: playoff and raising a Big twelve championship trophy.
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  Speaker 5: You know, you don't have to look much further than
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  Speaker 5: the offensive line room, and Jordan Gross I would absolutely.
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  Speaker 4: Sticking him in at left tackle, making sure that there
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  Speaker 4: was there was a piece that was a certainty that
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  Speaker 4: you could build around.
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  Speaker 5: On that offensive lion.
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  Speaker 4: I think that that could be the difference maker.
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  Speaker 5: Between I mean a really really good season and a
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  Speaker 5: spectacular or special season, So that would be my choice.
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  Speaker 1: He did not give up a sack in his last
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  Speaker 1: two years as a starter, if I'm not mistaken, so
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  Speaker 1: that would be helpful.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, just keep keeping that look. Death can handle
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  Speaker 5: himself when he's under pressure, but not having to handle
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  Speaker 5: yourself is probably the better outcome there.
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  Speaker 3: I think you're right.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so now we're going to get into the actual
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  Speaker 1: season stuff, not our fanciful ideas, but the actual things
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  Speaker 1: that might happen. We'll stay here with the offensive line
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  Speaker 1: for now, because you know, everyone's sort of admitted that
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  Speaker 1: that's where the most sincere position battles are happening. That
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  Speaker 1: you know, Morgan Scalley at Big twelve media days was
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  Speaker 1: just like, we got to figure out who are starting
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  Speaker 1: five are. I feel good that they have options. I
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  Speaker 1: feel good that they have bodies there that are going
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  Speaker 1: to end up being good players, and you get them
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  Speaker 1: all together and maybe give him a week or two
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  Speaker 1: to get the right chemistry and whatnot. If you were
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  Speaker 1: making that starting five today, who do you think it is?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah? Today, my best guess is left tackle.
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  Speaker 4: Would be Zaraway Williams.
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  Speaker 5: Left guard toa MOEI, center would be Al Harrison, right
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  Speaker 5: guard would be of course super Keith Olsen, and right
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  Speaker 5: tackle Ike Garcia.
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  Speaker 4: We're hearing a lot of good things about Ike, what
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  Speaker 4: he did in the spring and what's been happening over
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  Speaker 4: the summertime.
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  Speaker 5: But if I had to guess right now, gun to
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  Speaker 5: my head, that's the guests that I would be.
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  Speaker 4: On that starting five.
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  Speaker 5: Now. I know that that leaves out a Kelvin Obots
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  Speaker 5: who there is a lot of promise, there's a lot
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  Speaker 5: of buzz around, and I think he'll see a lot
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  Speaker 5: of reps. There are other capable guys that are in
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  Speaker 5: the mix. I think there are early eight guys on
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  Speaker 5: the roster that I think have a legitimate chance at starting,
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  Speaker 5: but those would be my top five right now.
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  Speaker 1: So I love the Garcia a conversation because this was
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  Speaker 1: a guy that when he committed to the University of Utah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it came with a certain amount of fanfare,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of expectation, excitement, and it hasn't popped yet because,
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  Speaker 1: of course, when you have Caleb Blomu and Spencer Fano
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  Speaker 1: and some of the experienced guys in front of him,
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  Speaker 1: there's there's a lot of reasons why a guy like
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  Speaker 1: Garcia would potentially leave right where the transfer portal would
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  Speaker 1: come calling for him, and he's still here. And the
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  Speaker 1: idea of it used to be the norm, as you're
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  Speaker 1: well aware, used to be the norm. The idea of
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  Speaker 1: a red shirt sophomore just paying his dues and spending
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  Speaker 1: time and getting his body bigger and all that kind
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  Speaker 1: of stuff and then breaking out in his third year
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  Speaker 1: in a program is now a foreign concept, even though
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  Speaker 1: it's the way things were always done, especially at a
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  Speaker 1: position like offensive line.
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  Speaker 5: Oh absolutely, and and Garcia in particularly, look, it's been
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  Speaker 5: a frustrating couple of years for him on campus because
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  Speaker 5: he's dealt with injuries. He had an injury all of
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  Speaker 5: last year. He looked so good in the spring football
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  Speaker 5: of last year, and we had high expectations of him
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  Speaker 5: to fill kind of the same role that we saw
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  Speaker 5: Keith Olten last year, where we thought that he would
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  Speaker 5: be a big part of that rotation. They'd be circulating
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  Speaker 5: him in and out of the lineup frequently, even with
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  Speaker 5: Lomu and Fano in that lineup. But because he had
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  Speaker 5: a season ending injury, and he'd been injured the year
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  Speaker 5: prior as well.
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  Speaker 4: It really kind of stunted some of his development and
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  Speaker 4: his ability to get.
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  Speaker 5: On the field. But to his credit, he put his
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  Speaker 5: head down. He's done a lot of work to get
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  Speaker 5: his body right. We're hearing that.
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  Speaker 4: He's just doing so well, especially on that front where
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  Speaker 4: he's finally healthy and he can go out and make
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  Speaker 4: a statement for himself. And that right tackle position.
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  Speaker 5: Battle is an interesting one because you've got Garcia there
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  Speaker 5: who he's been waiting in the wings and he's been
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  Speaker 5: biting his time, and then you kind of have the
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  Speaker 5: flips sign the.
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  Speaker 4: Side of the coin with Cedric Jefferson, who is.
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  Speaker 5: The big offensive line transfer that they brought in from
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  Speaker 5: the portal.
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  Speaker 4: He was a multi year starter at Montana State.
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  Speaker 5: They're bringing him up from the FCS level, and.
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  Speaker 4: He also had a pretty solid spring. So it's going
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  Speaker 4: to be a battle. I'm not saying that Garcia is
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  Speaker 4: gonna just walk in and win this thing.
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  Speaker 5: He's going to have to fight for it. And frankly,
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  Speaker 5: Jefferson is a.
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  Speaker 4: Guy with positional versatility where.
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  Speaker 5: They can flip him the left tackle. He started games
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  Speaker 5: at left tackle, he started games at guard. So he's
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  Speaker 5: one of those guys that I think makes the line better.
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  Speaker 5: And this is the kind of thing that you want,
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  Speaker 5: especially for a position group that is not as battle
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  Speaker 5: tested as would give a certainly you fans.
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  Speaker 4: Comfort, but the fact that there are at least eight
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  Speaker 4: guys that are going to be pushing one another, that
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  Speaker 4: that are.
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  Speaker 5: Good enough to start and then now the key is
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  Speaker 5: can you get that.
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  Speaker 4: Five in place within the first week or so of
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  Speaker 4: fall camp so that they can really start to gel
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  Speaker 4: and be ready to go by the time that Idaho
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  Speaker 4: in and.
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  Speaker 5: Arkansas roll around, where they're starting to fire on all cylinders.
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  Speaker 5: That's going to be the key. If this battle continues
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  Speaker 5: into week two, week three of fall camp, that might
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  Speaker 5: be a little bit more problematic, especially since nobody's really
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  Speaker 5: stepping up and earning and winning that job.
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  Speaker 4: But it's by far, in my.
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  Speaker 5: Opinion, the most fascinating position battle in fall camp and
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  Speaker 5: frankly the most.
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  Speaker 4: Critical for this team. This team will rise as high
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  Speaker 4: as the offensive line.
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  Speaker 5: Can take them.
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  Speaker 1: I agree with you wholeheartedly that there were a lot
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  Speaker 1: of packages and plays last year where a sixth offensive
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  Speaker 1: line body was brought in, and I wonder i's no
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  Speaker 1: longer that Jason Beck offense. Some of those things worked
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  Speaker 1: well and are probably going to be reimagined, I would
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  Speaker 1: imagine under Kevin Gibbon, Kevin mcgiven. My question is that
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  Speaker 1: they've decided, you know, they really liked this rhino stuff.
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  Speaker 3: We all really like this rhino stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Does that decrease the likelihood of a sixth offensive line
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  Speaker 1: body like Jefferson or an obot being put next to
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  Speaker 1: the starting five or being worked in conjunction with the
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  Speaker 1: starting five, or could you see a situation where it's
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  Speaker 1: like jumbo jumbo, where you've got a sixth offensive lineman
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  Speaker 1: and you've got the rhino backs in.
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  Speaker 5: Oh Yeah, I absolutely could see Kevin mcgiven using that
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  Speaker 5: the super jumbo package, if you will, with multiple big
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  Speaker 5: the rhino or whatever.
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  Speaker 4: They call him these days.
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  Speaker 5: But look at a semi talonga who got a lot
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  Speaker 5: of snaps last year and of course was the Internet
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  Speaker 5: darling of college football for a little while in the spring,
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  Speaker 5: just based on some things that he did as a receiver,
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  Speaker 5: and I'm I'm really excited to see what you tah
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  Speaker 5: can do with him and use him as a receiver
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  Speaker 5: and using that.
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  Speaker 4: The possibility of run as a decoy ployee.
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  Speaker 5: Type of thing. But putting a Talong on the field
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  Speaker 5: with a toe, a MOEI or a Reese parmenter or
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  Speaker 5: somebody coming in.
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  Speaker 4: As that's playing tight end reps technically, but.
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  Speaker 5: Are absolutely an offensive lineman.
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  Speaker 4: I think that that works so well. And because Devin
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  Speaker 4: damp Here and Bert Fickland.
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  Speaker 5: Both run the read options so effectively and they're so
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  Speaker 5: explosive as running threats from that quarterback position, I think
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  Speaker 5: it would be silly to throw that entire package out
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  Speaker 5: the window. I think that they'd like to be a
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  Speaker 5: little bit more versatile in what they can do, so
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  Speaker 5: it's not obvious run every time or obvious where the
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  Speaker 5: run is going.
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  Speaker 4: But I do think that we're going.
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  Speaker 5: To see a healthy diet of that type.
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  Speaker 4: Of package this fall, in addition to everything else that
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  Speaker 4: we're going to see with multiple wide receiver sets and
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  Speaker 4: that sort of thing.
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  Speaker 1: Dan Sorrenson, I guess here on the shan I'll I'll
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  Speaker 1: show one week ahead of Utah football opening camp, and
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  Speaker 1: we're speculating on rotational stuff on the offensive line, let's
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  Speaker 1: do it on the defensive line. Now. I think it's
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  Speaker 1: another position group where you have some serious questions that
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  Speaker 1: need to be answered. It's a lot less important to
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  Speaker 1: have a hardcore starting group at D line because they're
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  Speaker 1: going to rotate in and out what you need.
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  Speaker 3: There is depth.
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  Speaker 1: But everything we've heard about Carson Kaufusi seems like he's
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  Speaker 1: one of the starting D tackles. Who's the other, Like,
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  Speaker 1: if if you're going to do a top pairing like
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  Speaker 1: we're doing NHL defenseman, it's Carson Kalfusi and who.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, if you're talking strictly starter, it's I think it's
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  Speaker 5: probably going to be between Jay Moee and and jam Wallace.
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  Speaker 4: Lucas Samsula is going to have something to say about
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  Speaker 4: that as well, but I think it's going to be
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  Speaker 4: dependent on the type of team that they face.
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  Speaker 5: Defensive tackle loof Utah has always wanted to go four.
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  Speaker 4: Or five players deep in that room rotation with all five.
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  Speaker 4: If they go.
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  Speaker 5: Five deep, they want that fifth guy to get maybe
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  Speaker 5: ten snaps of the game, the starters to maybe get
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  Speaker 5: roughly twenty to thirty snaps the game. But keeping those
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  Speaker 5: guys fresh has been really important, and Utah's best defenses
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  Speaker 5: they've been able to do that. Last year. The rotation
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  Speaker 5: performed well at times, but it certainly especially with injuries
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  Speaker 5: as the season went on, it was a real struggle.
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  Speaker 5: So I think that Utahs in much better shape from
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  Speaker 5: a depth perspective this year. Like you said, Kafushi, we
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  Speaker 5: expect a massive improvement out of him. Poupu Cephalona, he
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  Speaker 5: played really really well as a true freshman last year.
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  Speaker 5: He's bulked up even more so. He's at two ninety
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  Speaker 5: eight on the roster right now and he's going to
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  Speaker 5: be in the mix there. Moe is a guy that
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  Speaker 5: you just heard about him over and over and over
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  Speaker 5: again during spring football and when they brought him in.
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  Speaker 4: One of the things that they looked looked at he
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  Speaker 4: did at San Jose State.
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  Speaker 5: Was his win rate one on one as he was
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  Speaker 5: going up against offensive lineman and as an undersized true freshman,
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  Speaker 5: he had the highest win rate in college football of
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  Speaker 5: going one on one as And he's look, he's not
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  Speaker 5: very big, but he's so quick. He fires off the ball.
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  Speaker 4: He's disruptive, and he can hold his own in those
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  Speaker 4: run situations.
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  Speaker 5: And he's a guy that you fans don't know his
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  Speaker 5: name very well now they will by the end of
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  Speaker 5: the season.
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  Speaker 4: But I love the fact that they are once again,
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  Speaker 4: like the offensive line, so many bodies and capable guys
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  Speaker 4: and guys that are hungry for different.
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  Speaker 5: Reasons, that are going to be battling in day in,
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  Speaker 5: day out to get on the field, and they know
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  Speaker 5: that they can't let up if they want to see reps.
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  Speaker 4: And so this is a good problem for Utah to have.
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  Speaker 4: I think the defensive tackle position is going to be
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  Speaker 4: significantly better than what we saw season ago. And even
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  Speaker 4: though these.
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  Speaker 5: Guys are young, I think that they're up to the task.
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  Speaker 1: Is past rush going to be an issue That's.
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  Speaker 3: A tough one.
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  Speaker 5: Look. John Henry Daily was special in.
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  Speaker 4: Every regard when you look at the.
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  Speaker 5: Advanced stats what he did last year.
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  Speaker 4: The amount of impact that he made on.
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  Speaker 5: The field, even when he didn't touch the quarterback was significant.
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  Speaker 4: Is Utah going to have a.
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  Speaker 5: Guy that makes that kind of an impact of this fall.
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  Speaker 5: Probably not.
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  Speaker 4: Look I am bullish on lanceholtz Klai. I think he
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  Speaker 4: funny enough. He did not really get home a lot
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  Speaker 4: last year, But when you look at the numbers and
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  Speaker 4: what he did a season ago, he was the second
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  Speaker 4: highest percentage in terms of getting to the quarterback.
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  Speaker 5: Behind John Henry Daily.
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  Speaker 4: He didn't get as many opportunities as a backup, but
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  Speaker 4: he does. He's able to create pressures, He's able to
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  Speaker 4: make quarterbacks uncomfortable. The thing that he didn't do last year.
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  Speaker 5: At a high clip was land the.
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  Speaker 4: Sack, and that's going to be something that's important.
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  Speaker 5: And then I know that coach Scally has.
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  Speaker 4: Talked about the fact that I think that he cares
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  Speaker 4: far more about pressures than he does about actual sacks.
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  Speaker 4: But everybody knows, Look, the sack is the big play,
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  Speaker 4: right It's.
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  Speaker 5: It's every single great Utah defense that has been on
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  Speaker 5: the field for the last thirty years has had at
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  Speaker 5: least one guy that was an elite pass rusher that
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  Speaker 5: could get home and get the sack. And so, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: who that's going to be is a big question. Holtz
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  Speaker 5: Claw I think is capable ethan day. Hearing great things
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  Speaker 5: about him and how his summer has gone, and he look,
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  Speaker 5: he wasn't a highly productive pass rusher at at North
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  Speaker 5: Texas last year, but he was more of a like
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  Speaker 5: that all around guy. I think he played just.
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  Speaker 4: More snaps than the ninety eight percent of the defensive
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  Speaker 4: ends in college football last year.
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  Speaker 5: Like he never left the field. He's great against the run,
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  Speaker 5: he can get home to the quarterback. We'll see if
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  Speaker 5: Paul Fitzgerald can do something. He had that great season
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  Speaker 5: a couple of years ago up at Utah State before
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  Speaker 5: he transferred to Utah and with injuries and being down
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  Speaker 5: on the depth chart, he really hasn't had a chance
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  Speaker 5: to show what he can do. And he's fully healthy
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  Speaker 5: from what we're hearing, and so can he come out
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  Speaker 5: and be that breakout guy kind of like JHD was
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  Speaker 5: last year coming out of nowhere. It's possible. And look,
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  Speaker 5: Cash Dylan as.
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  Speaker 4: A red shirt freshman last year, played.
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  Speaker 5: Really really well, and there's gonna.
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  Speaker 4: Be a day where cash Dillon is all conference caliber.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if it's this season. If it's not
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  Speaker 4: the season, it will definitely be next.
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  Speaker 5: But he is a.
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  Speaker 4: Superstar in the waiting.
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  Speaker 5: He's just got to put those last things together. And
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  Speaker 5: so between those.
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  Speaker 4: Four guys, I don't know what's going to happen, and
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  Speaker 4: I don't know who's going to be.
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  Speaker 5: The leader there. They're gonna have to show it on
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  Speaker 5: the field. We're probably going to see a little bit
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  Speaker 5: of playing with that lineup and a quicker rotation than
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  Speaker 5: we normally would. But there's opportunity for all four of them,
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  Speaker 5: and they're capable. It's just a matter of can they
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  Speaker 5: go out and get it.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm gonna do something really unfair, But this is
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  Speaker 1: it's all speculation season.
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  Speaker 3: We're in talking season right now.
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  Speaker 1: So let's say you get seventy two touches on offense
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  Speaker 1: that you get to distribute like, I don't care if
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  Speaker 1: you want to do it percentage wise, you want to
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  Speaker 1: do actual numbers for touches. But you've got we think
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  Speaker 1: you've got this embarrassment of weapons that Utah football is.
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  Speaker 3: It's usually not a.
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  Speaker 1: Characterizing factor talking about your roster, right, I think people
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  Speaker 1: want to see Devin Dan Pierre call his own number.
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  Speaker 1: They want us hear the same from Bird Ficklin more
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  Speaker 1: than a just specialized packages. Potentially, you got Nate Johnson,
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  Speaker 1: who could take the top off a defense how many
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  Speaker 1: times you get in the ball to him. We know
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  Speaker 1: about the wide receiver room that you've brought in some
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  Speaker 1: talent where Kyrie Scholz has a lot of production, not
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  Speaker 1: at Utah, but a lot of production. Same thing with Pagan.
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  Speaker 1: And then you've got way Sean Parker, who I think
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: most of us want to see be a bell cow back.
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: But what about Daniel Bray. I haven't even mentioned Hunter Andrews.
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: You got to give that guy ten touches a game.
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: Maybe. So it's a good problem, I think to have.
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: But how would you solve it?
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's the question that I've really been wrestling.
• 17:30
  Speaker 5: With the most throughout the summer and.
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: Some of the things that we've been writing. I wrote
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: about a couple of weeks ago. I wrote about just
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: the wide receivers and what does that distribution look like?
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: And look, you know, and you mentioned all these names,
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: and the one that I've got a sneaking hunch that
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: at the end of the season. The number one receiver
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: is going to be Larry Simmons.
• 17:50
  Speaker 5: And he showed a lot at the end of the year,
• 17:52
  Speaker 5: and he had a great spring, and he's a guy
• 17:55
  Speaker 5: that I think that when Danfter's in trouble, who is
• 17:59
  Speaker 5: the number one guy he's going to go to when
• 18:01
  Speaker 5: he's in trouble, And and I.
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: Think that Simmons is going to be that guy.
• 18:05
  Speaker 5: There's that chemistry.
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: And then Ricky Johnson, you know, the guy.
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: That had the big spring. You mentioned Bray that Morgan
• 18:12
  Speaker 5: Scalley called him out multiple times, is maybe having the
• 18:14
  Speaker 5: best camp of anyone. So, yeah, there are a lot
• 18:17
  Speaker 5: of guys in terms of weapons, and it is a
• 18:21
  Speaker 5: good problem to have. The problem is there's only one football,
• 18:24
  Speaker 5: So how do you keep everybody happy? And that's going
• 18:26
  Speaker 5: to be a big challenge for Ken mcgiven and for
• 18:28
  Speaker 5: coach Bump and and for all those guys across that
• 18:31
  Speaker 5: offensive staff. Answer your question, yeah, I look, you're gonna
• 18:37
  Speaker 5: want out of.
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: That quarterback position. And I think seventy two snaps offensive
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: snaps the.
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: Game is probably a fair number. That's about what you're
• 18:48
  Speaker 5: going to see, I think. And you're going to want
• 18:51
  Speaker 5: what twenty percent of those going staying with the quarterback position.
• 18:55
  Speaker 5: I think that with the passing game, you'll want a
• 18:59
  Speaker 5: good fifty percent of those. I think Morgan really wants
• 19:02
  Speaker 5: that fifty to fifty balance in the run and pass,
• 19:05
  Speaker 5: and so fifty percent of those snaps are.
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: Going to the passing game. So that gives you what
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: thirty five or thirty six, thirty seven throws a game.
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: That's that's a lot of throws. It's more throws than
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: what we saw last season.
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: And I think there's an opportunity to just distribute the
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: ball and get multiple guys involved.
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: I don't necessarily think you're going.
• 19:27
  Speaker 5: To see anybody.
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: That's going to touch close to a thousand yards, with
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: the exception of maybe Waitshan and and he is a
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: guy that needs twenty touches a game. It's he's too
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: big of a threat. He's too big of a weapon.
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: And and I think that you can.
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: Use Bray as a as a change of pace kind.
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: Of guy and work in the Nate Johnson's of the world,
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: or or work in.
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: Hunter Andrews as a big back and running him in
• 19:53
  Speaker 5: that you know that orbit orbit motion and doing the handoff.
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: But it's it's tough.
• 19:59
  Speaker 5: It is a.
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: Like you said, it's a great.
• 20:03
  Speaker 5: Problem to have. There are a lot of guys that
• 20:05
  Speaker 5: are going to be highly capable when they get the ball,
• 20:08
  Speaker 5: and so it's a matter of how do you keep
• 20:10
  Speaker 5: people happy, how do you keep defenses on their heels
• 20:13
  Speaker 5: and keep them guessing and put your guys in the
• 20:16
  Speaker 5: best possible position to succeed. And I think that the
• 20:22
  Speaker 5: thing that Utah does have in their favor with that
• 20:26
  Speaker 5: is who is behind center, especially when it's stands here
• 20:29
  Speaker 5: behind center, I think he is. We only saw a
• 20:33
  Speaker 5: portion of what he can do. He was he wasn't
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: healthy at all last year. The UCLA game basically was
• 20:41
  Speaker 5: the game where he was the most healthy, and then
• 20:44
  Speaker 5: he basic battled through things for the entire year. You
• 20:48
  Speaker 5: fans haven't just how good he can be as a passer.
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: And certainly as a runner. He wasn't as explosive. And
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: still he had a great year and a good enough
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: year to have extremely high expectations this year. So with
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: him behind center, with him making decisions, with him looking
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: for ways to exploit the defense, I have a lot
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: of confidence that he's a guy that can get it done.
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: And thick on this in the same regard. I think
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: we're going to see both quarterbacks on the field at
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: the same time, maybe as many as five to ten
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: snaps a game, and I think that they're going to
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: do some creative things with that, and it should be.
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: A lot of fun to watch Kevin mcgiven if I'm
• 21:30
  Speaker 5: in his shoes. I'm really excited about all the tools
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: that I have to work with.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: We're only a week away. Just stay strong for another
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: six and a half days, Dan and and we're there.
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and like you said, we'll start to get some
• 21:48
  Speaker 5: reality on what's actually happening. There's a lot of speculation,
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: there's a lot to be excited about. Everybody's undefeated in fall.
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: Camp at least, but yeah, it's I couldn't be more
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: excited for a fall camp and for a start of
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: a college football season. I just have a sneaking suspicion
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: the Morgan Scalli era is going to be special and
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: there is a real opportunity to start things out with
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: a bang.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: Last thing before I let you go, you can't say, BYU,
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: what's the scariest game on the schedule for this University
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: of Utah football team at Arizona.
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: Arizona's going to be good.
• 22:29
  Speaker 5: Now, we'll November, right, There's a lot that happens between
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: now and then if somebody gets hurt, either for Utah
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: or for Arizona, but that at Arizona and frankly the
• 22:40
  Speaker 5: at TCU, because TCU is going to be a wild card.
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: They could very well be.
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: Like in Arizona State a couple of years ago, coming out.
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: Of nowhere and.
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: Pushing for or winning or winning the title.
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: So it's going to be a I don't think that
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: everything we saw in the Big twelve last year is.
• 22:58
  Speaker 5: Going to translate this year, and Arizona.
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: And TCU or two of those teams that I think
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: have a chance to step up from what they did.
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: We'll see you out there soon. Appreciate you giving us
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: some time today, Dan, Thank you, it's a pleasure.
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: Thanks for having me on.
• 23:13
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• 23:19
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• 23:25
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