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Week 11 Picks with Cynthia Frelund · Best of the NFL Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we are on a roll
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  Speaker 1: fading the Cowboys.
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  Speaker 2: I am Greg Rosenthal here in.
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  Speaker 1: The Chris Westling podcast studio with my friend who joins
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  Speaker 1: us for our Friday pick show every week, Cynthia Freeland.
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  Speaker 2: Hi, how you doing on a little bit of a
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  Speaker 2: role here.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, you know that's how we live when we join
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  Speaker 1: forces fading the Cowboys. Last two weeks we are two
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  Speaker 1: and oh each a combined four and oh if you
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  Speaker 1: wanted to count our records. But I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: you know this. I haven't told you this. I went
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  Speaker 1: three and oh again last week, so I am on
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  Speaker 1: a six and oh. Cheeter, And you're also doing great
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  Speaker 1: as well. You've had four out of five winning weeks,
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  Speaker 1: so we both are well in the winning margin for
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  Speaker 1: the season. It is all happening, Cynthia. What is going
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  Speaker 1: to be your first pick? We picked three games against
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  Speaker 1: the spread each in every week.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, I think this week my starting point is going
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  Speaker 3: to be fading the Dallas Code.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I wasn't sure if I was gonna go there
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  Speaker 1: again or not. But tell me why.
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  Speaker 3: I mean to be fair, it's hard. Seven and a
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  Speaker 3: half is a weird number. Okay, but I don't care.
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  Speaker 3: I have it for more than that. I ultimately believe
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  Speaker 3: the fact that even though the Dallas defense has gotten
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  Speaker 3: some pressure, I just think with Nico Collins coming back,
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  Speaker 3: they're gonna treat this as a let's get Nico back.
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  Speaker 3: They have the best so second best in terms of
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  Speaker 3: quarterback to wide receiver and passer rating. So one thirty
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  Speaker 3: three point three, that's what happens for CJ. Strode when
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  Speaker 3: Nico Collins is there and he hasn't been on the field.
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  Speaker 3: So I think they're gonna treat less like they would
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  Speaker 3: treat maybe like not a not a preseason game, because
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  Speaker 3: that's not what I mean, but like integrating him back
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  Speaker 3: into the lineup, run all the routes.
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  Speaker 4: Let's get targets here, let's get targets there.
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  Speaker 3: Like this is a great eat opportunity for that and plus,
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  Speaker 3: you know, you can run on the Cowboys and Joe
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  Speaker 3: Mixon turns out he's a running quarterback, running back.
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  Speaker 2: He's a great running back.
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  Speaker 1: The fact that they haven't been able to get their
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  Speaker 1: early down run game consistent. There's a lot of lost
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  Speaker 1: you know, stuffs and negative runs. But that's like, but
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  Speaker 1: look like that's against good teams.
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  Speaker 3: But you have to also realize, like lines are very
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  Speaker 3: good at that, Like it's it's yes, I understand that,
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  Speaker 3: Like it's weird saying that as a Lions fan. I
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  Speaker 3: almost feel like I'm lying, but like the lines.
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  Speaker 1: Are, yeah, they're great. No, you're absolutely right. So I
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  Speaker 1: had the Cowboys baiting them as possibly my third pick,
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  Speaker 1: and I wasn't sure whether I would or not, and
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  Speaker 1: I had it seven. Probably depends where you look.
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  Speaker 2: You're right.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's moved up to seven and a half. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but you know what, I like being on the same
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  Speaker 1: team as you.
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  Speaker 2: Let's do it.
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  Speaker 1: So if I'm putting a big question mark and I'll
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  Speaker 1: get to the one I was considering late later it
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  Speaker 1: was on the edge. Anyways, as my third pick, I
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  Speaker 1: will also go Houston minus seven and a half on
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  Speaker 1: the road in down looks, it's all about the Cowboys
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  Speaker 1: offense for me. The reason why I'm a little anxious
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  Speaker 1: about is just the Cowboys defense last week with Michael
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  Speaker 1: Parsons back. If you watch that game, it took the
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  Speaker 1: Eagles about seven drives to get to that second touchdown,
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  Speaker 1: and they got a lot of pressure, and that's against
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  Speaker 1: a good Eagles a line, and I think about that matchup,
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  Speaker 1: and it's home and they got to be embarrassed, and
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  Speaker 1: I just think the Cowboys defense will be okay. And yes,
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  Speaker 1: the return of Nico Collins matters a lot, but this
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  Speaker 1: offensive line for and so that I was just worried. Man,
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  Speaker 1: is this gonna be the third quarter and it's it's
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  Speaker 1: seventeen to ten and I'm sweating this out.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, probably, but it's the other It doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 2: No, it's the other side of the I don't want
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  Speaker 2: to sweat this out.
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  Speaker 1: The last couple of weeks, we've been hitting like ones
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  Speaker 1: that are over mid third quarter.
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  Speaker 2: It's the other side of the ball.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, Cooper Rush averaged less than two yards per
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  Speaker 1: past last week every time he dropped back.
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  Speaker 2: He now has a neck injury.
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  Speaker 3: His quarterback winstat is really good, right, he has won
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  Speaker 3: a lot of games.
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  Speaker 1: They did get to Neil Hunter back at practice on Thursday.
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  Speaker 1: We're not for sure whether Will Anderson is going to
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  Speaker 1: play in this game, so that's obviously a concern. But
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  Speaker 1: when they got Aziz alsha Here back last week, I
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  Speaker 1: think that really helped them against the Lions. They are
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  Speaker 1: one of the most consistent week to week defenses in
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  Speaker 1: the NFL. I think they're one of the few difference
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  Speaker 1: making defenses in the NFL. So if you're telling me
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  Speaker 1: one of the few difference making defenses in the NFL
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  Speaker 1: against this Cowboys team, like the over under I'm giving
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  Speaker 1: for Cowboys and points in this game is like ten, right,
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  Speaker 1: so give me the seven and a half. We are
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  Speaker 1: both on the Texans again. We've been riding. We've been
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  Speaker 1: riding this fade train for the Cowboys. Let's let's keep
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  Speaker 1: it rolling, keep my undefeated streak going. If I get
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  Speaker 1: to nine to zero. Like, if you think I'm insufferable
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  Speaker 1: now right, three straight weeks, I don't.
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  Speaker 3: I don't really think you're insufferable. Like I actually rooting
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  Speaker 3: for it because I think it's funny. Doesn't mean that
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  Speaker 3: I am rooting against myself. No, we can both be.
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  Speaker 1: We're we're competing, but we're both winning right now, and
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  Speaker 1: we're giving our audience.
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  Speaker 3: How who would win if we both win? All here
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  Speaker 3: and not like everyone the listener, you would win?
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  Speaker 2: All right, give me your second pick.
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  Speaker 1: We are both on the Cowboys, losing by more than
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  Speaker 1: seven and a half points at home to the Texans.
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  Speaker 2: What is your second pick?
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  Speaker 4: Indianapolis and the points.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, I have the Jets winning outright, but I have
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  Speaker 3: Indianapolis with the points, and it's very volatile on the
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  Speaker 3: Jets side, and I don't like that. So I'm punishing
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  Speaker 3: them because I I have, I have proven to my
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  Speaker 3: I have stayed committed to taking the picks in my model.
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  Speaker 3: I don't go against my model. You know this, but
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  Speaker 3: I hate that pick. Like if I had to, if
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  Speaker 3: I had to tell you what I believe, it's cults
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  Speaker 3: I'm taking if I had to.
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  Speaker 2: Wait, but you're taking the Jets.
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  Speaker 4: Well straight up, yeah, okay, say whatever.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. I have a lot of We do
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  Speaker 2: a show on network.
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  Speaker 4: I understand.
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  Speaker 1: We don't mention it a lot. The listeners for this
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  Speaker 1: show would be particularly interesting. Game devietw on NFL Network
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  Speaker 1: each and every week.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Start the first air in very early in the morning
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  Speaker 1: on the West Coast on Friday, but it has multiple
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  Speaker 1: airings throughout the weekend, including on Sunday morning before game
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  Speaker 1: day morning. So you can you can set your DVR
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  Speaker 1: to our picks there. But so your pick is Jets
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  Speaker 1: plus four or minus four.
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  Speaker 4: No, my pick is Colts. Oh, Colts plus plus oh four. Oh,
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  Speaker 4: you're saying I have the Jets.
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  Speaker 2: That's what I thought, But.
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  Speaker 4: I have the Colts cut because I hate this.
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  Speaker 2: All that matters is is the Colts covering, right, It's
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  Speaker 2: all that matters. That's right.
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  Speaker 3: I don't I'm just telling you, but I'm just explaining
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  Speaker 3: that part of the reason why I, specifically or pacifically
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  Speaker 3: how you speak.
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  Speaker 4: English, wanted this one. It's because sometimes I get mad
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  Speaker 4: at my own model.
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  Speaker 1: Right, and so you're not happy that your model has
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  Speaker 1: the Jets winning this win. Your model has been heavy
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  Speaker 1: on the Jets all season. Now my model, the.
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  Speaker 2: Vegas has to Vegas has two.
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  Speaker 1: Frankly, when I looked at this one, and this was
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  Speaker 1: the fourth game I was debating, So this one's going
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  Speaker 1: to be in my little box.
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  Speaker 2: It's not going to be on my three official picks.
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  Speaker 2: But I'm with you. I agree with you.
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  Speaker 1: The fourth pick that I was debating was either Colts
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  Speaker 1: plus four or Texans minus seven and a half. And
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna put it as like my extra pick this week.
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  Speaker 1: But I am prepared to agree with you because I
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  Speaker 1: am picking the Colts straight up in this game. The
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  Speaker 1: vibes could not be worse. I mean, it's not that
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  Speaker 1: the Jets are just losing these games. When they're losing
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  Speaker 1: these games, they are not competitive. I think it could
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  Speaker 1: actually be worse at home. I think their offense will
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  Speaker 1: be okay in this game against the Colts, But the
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  Speaker 1: Colts have been getting better pass rush lately, yeah, since
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  Speaker 1: they got the Forest Buckner back. And I think Anthony
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  Speaker 1: Richardson is a plus. I look at him as giving
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  Speaker 1: the Colts a better chance to win with a ground
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  Speaker 1: based attack against this Jets run defense, which just had
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  Speaker 1: no fight last week. And some people, you know, you look,
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  Speaker 1: you just look up front and you think, oh, they
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  Speaker 1: can't stop throwing.
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  Speaker 2: That's part of it. You know what a big.
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  Speaker 1: Part of it is is Sauce Gardner and that defensive backfield.
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  Speaker 1: It's a bunch of skinny corners and safeties who can't
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  Speaker 1: tackle and in the NFL today like they will your edges.
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  Speaker 1: I think they used Jonathan Taylor Anthony Richardson on the
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  Speaker 1: edge and Sasgardner and those guys are just missing tackle
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  Speaker 1: after tackle week after week.
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  Speaker 2: So I love your ind plus four. I think you're
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  Speaker 2: two and zero.
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  Speaker 3: Can I tell you something I spent far too much
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  Speaker 3: time looking at what happened with my model and where
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  Speaker 3: Jonathan Taylor with Anthony Richardson starting, especially because Jeff Olbrick's
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  Speaker 3: sitting there on his podium being like, we couldn't make
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  Speaker 3: any tackles last week.
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  Speaker 2: Oh blah blah blah blah blah.
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  Speaker 3: Well you know what, Actually, Jonathan Taylor's projection went up
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  Speaker 3: with Anthony Richardson. Why Because Anthony Richardson can't be doing
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  Speaker 3: wild things. He can't be right now, he has like
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  Speaker 3: the highest air yard per attempt average of any like,
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  Speaker 3: it's like thirteen yards per attempt. It's a wild number.
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  Speaker 3: So in order to keep him from turning the ball
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  Speaker 3: over shorter passes, but also the thread of the run.
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  Speaker 3: And who are they gonna defend? Are they going to
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  Speaker 3: defend Anthony Richardson Jonathan Taylor? The answer is both? But like,
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  Speaker 3: how right? So Jonathan Taylor, don't be afraid of his
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  Speaker 3: rushing yard total over gosh, I'm using all these g words.
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  Speaker 3: I'm scared myself, you can add I know, but I've
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  Speaker 3: been the fear of God has been beaten into me
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  Speaker 3: about that.
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  Speaker 2: For years. We had this.
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  Speaker 4: We had to say, like the worst, people will be like,
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  Speaker 4: your grammar's terrible. I'm like you try speaking in code.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we had to speak in a weird code. It
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  Speaker 1: was essentially a pick show. It was essentially a gambling show.
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  Speaker 1: But it was like you couldn't advertise it that way.
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  Speaker 4: And we'd say more or less.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, not more higher, here we go.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I feel so good about Packers minus five and
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  Speaker 1: a half. I can't believe this number has gone back
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  Speaker 1: to the Packers during the week. It was actually higher
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  Speaker 1: when I initially it was six earlier. Now it's five
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  Speaker 1: and a half. Sometimes it's just over in life that
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  Speaker 1: the numbers that your model spits out, and you're probably
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  Speaker 1: on the same side as me, are you? But then,
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  Speaker 1: but even Vegas, some they can't totally measure when it's
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  Speaker 1: just over. These are These are human beings, and you
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  Speaker 1: don't get the dead coach bounce with the offensive coordinator change.
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  Speaker 1: So there's there's two reasons I'm picking this one. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: you want to stand no, no, no, I'm doing this is
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  Speaker 1: okay one, thank you. Reason Number one. Everyone thinks that, okay,
• 10:04
  Speaker 1: the Bears offense is a mess, but it's a good defense, right,
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  Speaker 1: you know, it's a good Bears defense. Like, Okay, their
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  Speaker 1: defense is fine. A. They do not rush the passer
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  Speaker 1: very well, like they're getting Montes swept back. But they're
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  Speaker 1: not really a great pass rush team, very mediocre in
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  Speaker 1: terms of getting to the quarterback, in terms of pass
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  Speaker 1: rush to win rate, all that stuff. Number two, they
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  Speaker 1: don't stop the run at all. They're actually quite poor
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  Speaker 1: stopping the run. So you're gonna tell me they are
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  Speaker 1: a difference making deference when A, you don't really rush
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  Speaker 1: the passer at an exceptional rate your average, and then
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  Speaker 1: B you're legitimately bad stopping the run. They are thirtieth
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  Speaker 1: in DVOA. That's total efficiency against the run that measures
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  Speaker 1: their schedule. That's been a big part of the reason
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  Speaker 1: why their defense is overrated. They're thirteenth overall on defense
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  Speaker 1: by that mettriuc because of the schedule they haven't played
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  Speaker 1: anyone and when now when they've started playing some teams
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  Speaker 1: like the Cardinals, for instance, they got run over and
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  Speaker 1: then look, I got a third number, a third point point.
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  Speaker 1: Andrew Billions was by far their best run stopper. They
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  Speaker 1: kind of count on a nose tackle to take up
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  Speaker 1: two blockers on the interior. He's a huge man, very
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  Speaker 1: underrated player, was playing at a high level for them.
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  Speaker 1: He just went out for the season two weeks ago.
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  Speaker 1: So I think they're significantly worse than they were then.
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  Speaker 1: The offense is obviously a mess, and I'm not we
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  Speaker 1: don't even need to talk about how bad the offense is.
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  Speaker 2: But I truly believe it's over over.
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  Speaker 1: These last two games were two of the worst games
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  Speaker 1: I've ever seen from an offensive staff and offensive team.
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  Speaker 1: And you're playing a good Packers team. I think they
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  Speaker 1: win by twenty five. Like, I love it. I give
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  Speaker 1: me this Packers one.
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  Speaker 4: I'm with you on that.
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  Speaker 3: I will say, here's my like, like I did, We're
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  Speaker 3: going down a nerd rabbit hole. But it's okay because
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  Speaker 3: I have my glasses on so when I'm wearing my
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  Speaker 3: glasses I can be nerd.
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  Speaker 2: Hear.
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  Speaker 3: I did this thing where I tracked how where the
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  Speaker 3: volume of money was going on bets and which fans
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  Speaker 3: are disproportionately irrational about their team, and Chicago fans are
• 12:05
  Speaker 3: pretty irrational, meaning they get a little change and they're like,
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  Speaker 3: we're winning now right, like they go they swing all
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  Speaker 3: the way back to like they're very like we hate you,
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  Speaker 3: we love you, we hate you, we love you. So
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  Speaker 3: I think part of that is to entice those Bears
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  Speaker 3: fans they'll.
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  Speaker 4: Make in Vegas.
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  Speaker 3: I also read all these ten k's and like, you know,
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  Speaker 3: these earnings, I do nerdy stuff and I have a
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  Speaker 3: lame free time.
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  Speaker 4: I read these earnings reports.
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  Speaker 3: The casinos have beginning hammered a little bit, So look
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  Speaker 3: out for these lines to be a little wild because
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  Speaker 3: they need to entice some fans.
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  Speaker 4: Are the same little little business one oh one here.
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  Speaker 1: You know what they're enticing me right now? Well to
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  Speaker 1: go Packers minus five and halfs. And it's funny you
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  Speaker 1: say that because every year on the over under draft
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  Speaker 1: that we've been doing on the podcast, which I am
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  Speaker 1: on a wild winning streak on the last couple of years.
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  Speaker 2: Man, I'm just patting myself in the back too, But
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  Speaker 2: why not?
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  Speaker 1: The Bears over under before the start of the season
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  Speaker 1: is always too high half And I've gone under every
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  Speaker 1: year and I did it again this year.
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  Speaker 2: It was nine and a half in some places.
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  Speaker 1: But I feel good that either whether you got an
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  Speaker 1: eight and a half or nine half, it's going to
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  Speaker 1: be under.
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  Speaker 2: All right, let's go to your final pick.
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  Speaker 3: My final pick speaking of a team that hit their
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  Speaker 3: win totals or will be hitting their win totals should
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  Speaker 3: they win this game.
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  Speaker 4: Denver five and a half wins was the win total
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  Speaker 4: ahead of the season.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, they're at five right now. I'm feeling good about
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  Speaker 3: that one. I hammered that one pretty hard, so I
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  Speaker 3: would have been really eating Crow if I or eating Bronco.
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  Speaker 4: I guess if I think you're getting by this week? Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I think that they this week.
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  Speaker 3: I think not only do they get the win at
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  Speaker 3: home against Atlanta, but I do have a win by
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  Speaker 3: more than two points.
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  Speaker 2: I too. It's crazy, that's.
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  Speaker 3: It's a wild All these notes are we like becoming
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  Speaker 3: the same person?
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  Speaker 2: Denver is my second person. That would be great for me.
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  Speaker 1: No, I would get way like the grand followers.
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  Speaker 2: You know it'd be It'd be very exciting.
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  Speaker 3: Let's be fair. I'd rather have your wit and quick bit. No,
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  Speaker 3: Anthony Jail's Nick is my favorite, So okay, you best
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  Speaker 3: friends with him would be great.
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  Speaker 2: I'm glad.
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  Speaker 4: I'm actually scared of him.
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  Speaker 1: But you brought that up that Jessel Nick and Rosenthal
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  Speaker 1: Vanity project is back this I don't think I've mentioned
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  Speaker 1: that on nflaily.
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  Speaker 4: Really excited about that. I'm really excited about this.
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  Speaker 1: I appreciate, so I'm with you. Denver was my number
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  Speaker 1: two pick. It was locked and loaded minus two and
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  Speaker 1: a half I saw. So whether it's shoot two and
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  Speaker 1: a half, whatever, either way, I'm going full bowliever, you know. Uh. Now,
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  Speaker 1: the Broncos has been part of this show for my
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  Speaker 1: picks three straight weeks now. I went against them with Baltimore.
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  Speaker 2: We got it. We we both were with him last week.
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  Speaker 2: It was in it.
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  Speaker 1: Mine was in the extra picks the box, but you
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  Speaker 1: nailed it with the plus eight. I agreed with you
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  Speaker 1: on that. There's a couple of reasons. I just like
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: the physical matchup up front. The Falcons with the worst
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: pressure rate, the worst sack rate in the entire NFL
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: against a Broncos offensive line with that's really underrated, number
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: one in past block win rate. Right now PFF as
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: them as then number two pass protection team in the league,
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: so that's a huge mismatch. And bo Nick's numbers when
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: he's protected, they're fantastic. So that's the numbers reason. The
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: more reason why I do it sometimes is I just
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: look at the records and Patrick brought this up on
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: the previous show. The Falcons, to me, they're not a
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: seven and four team. They need to come back to
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: their their water. Their water is six and five. I
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: look at the Falcons, they don't deserve to be seven
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: and four. Whether the Broncos deserve to be six and five. Yeah,
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: that sounds about right at a little above average. They've
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: lost too straight, the Broncos on the road to really
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: good teams Ravens and Chiefs. They're coming back home. They
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: need it more. I like them in this spot to
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: win the game. And I just don't believe in the
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: Falcons defense at all, and I think they get cooked
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: in this game. Sean Payton's really been doing a good
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: job kind of building up this offense bit by bit.
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: I've been trying to figure it out right now. But
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: Mike McGlinchey, if he's able to go like that's very
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: helpful to this. But I think great in the battle
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: and the trenches on both sides either.
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: Way, I agree with you.
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: And yeah, Kirk Cousins is always a little dangerous because
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: I think he's been playing at a pretty high level
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: despite not being able to move around. And yet I
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: think his offensive line they're a very average pass rush
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: by I mean past protecting group, like you would think
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: they had this reputation at the Falcons as a good
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: pass protecting your both well, just so.
• 16:21
  Speaker 4: They're all drafted so high, right, they're all like first rounders.
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: They're okay, they're not bad, they're not good, but this
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: is against a very good pass rush. So this is
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: the first week of the season that we've agreed on
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: two games, and we really agreed on three because you
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: picked off what would have been my fourth pick. So
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: we are both on the Texans covering seven and a half,
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: We're both on the Broncos covering two and a half.
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: You have the Colts plus four, which I wholeheartedly agree with.
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: That is my pick, my extra pick in the box,
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: I have the Packers covering five and a half. That
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: is my very favorite pick of the week. And then
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: you kind of took really the only extra pick I
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: felt really strong about. But I'll throw one, just little
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: one out there. Is I kind of like the Raiders
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: actually getting seven in Miami. I just don't I just
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: you like.
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: The North Scott Turner, the Turner family, the Turner family, bump.
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: I just feel like the Dolphins aren't a good enough
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: team to be favored by seven against basically anyone. Maybe
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: if it was the Bears, I would be okay with it,
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: like because I'm so down on the Bears or the Cowboys.
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: But I think the Raiders coming off of bye, pretty
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: good pass rush, they're two, like I think the Dolphins defense,
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: it'll just be low and ugly.
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: So you're giving me, But that's why it's.
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: Also missing two.
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: Andre Max Crosby lines up there, you go, good job
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: a guy that's the name of Lamb going against Max
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: Crosby just doesn't doesn't doesn't work.
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: But that's just a little extra pick. And to be honest,
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: my extra picks have been just like five hundred.
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: Lately. We're riding high on the top three.
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: Sure, that's I want to get really too though, I
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: have the doing here.
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: Please do what is the number you see for Cleveland,
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: because I've seen it bouncing around.
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: But I have Cleveland winning.
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, now they're favored by one, but before they
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: were an underdog by one.
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: Right, So but I have I have Cleveland winning this game.
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: And I love Nick Chubb. I'm a huge Nick Chubb
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: stan and he's gonna get his over fifty rushing touchdown,
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: which puts them in a club with some Hall of famers,
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: so like Jim Bred like really good players.
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: So hey, you know, less talked about than the fired
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: coach principle, Like it kind of fades after that first.
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: You know, I think long term they'll be better with
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: Dan Darren Rizzy than they were with Dennis Allen. But
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: this is a toss up to me. But I also
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: picked the Browns and so I agree with you on that.
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: I also, I mean, look, I think that it's much
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: harder to defend erratic James Winson can be erratic. We
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: know that he's he's gonna throw it deep, but he's
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: also he could throw a pick. He could throw a
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: deep like explosive plays makes things harder, and their defense
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: still has been missing tackles. Their defense still has not
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: been really stout at limiting yak, limiting yako yaka either one.
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: It's and that's a that's gonna be hard because I
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: just think as good as the Browns defense, Like I'm.
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: With you, it's yeah, I think the Browns defense is
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: the most trustworthy group in this game. But did not
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: make it onto my card just because nothing about these
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: two teams is too dressed?
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: Worthies make it dress. Yeah, that's your little extra pick.
• 19:07
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• 19:13
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• 19:25
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• 19:29
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• 19:30
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• 19:30
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• 19:31
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• 19:39
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• 19:46
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• 19:49
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• 19:51
  Speaker 2: Looking forward to that. And yes, when we're in the
• 19:54
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