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- 0:01Audiovisual GPS Radio every Wednesday at 19 hours. The protagonist is the Argentine cinema
- 0:11in the look of Julia Montesoro, a treasure, a program with a gender
- 0:15perspective that nucleates the country' s film industry. Argentine cinema will never be
- 0:32the one it is until now. We, from GPS audio- visual Radio,
- 0:41continue to bet and struggle for culture as the fundamental pillar of a society,
- 0:49a culture that is plural, accessible and with State resources for its development.
- 0:58Welcome to Gp SE Audiovisual Radio, with the journalistic production of Norberto chap
- 1:04the technical operation of Gonzalo Sorais and in the driving who speaks Julia Montesoro.
- 1:14Martín rug It is the director of Vladimir, the disturbing psychological thriller starring Daniel
- 1:23Araoz Carlos Belloso and Marcelo Melingo, which opens tomorrow in more than thirty rooms
- 1:30throughout the country. We are now in communication with Martin Rushnick. It'
- 1:40s a pleasure to greet you Martin, welcome to GPS audio- visual Radio.
- 1:47You hear me. They were good times, we felt beautiful, great
- 2:04for TERRISPS, but the passage of time paulito rite that is inevitable. They
- 2:14say you pushed raulito down the balcony. You son of a bitch cut it,
- 2:21' cause I' m gonna take it all. It' s too
- 2:28late for us. I don' t know where the fuck to oscar something.
- 2:32It' s like I forgot everything at after I was toasting was how
- 2:39to find something you say something transformed me now tape, I can' t
- 2:50pinternate. I have to ask you a question. What do you want to
- 2:57know if she' s your daughter? I know all my life. Mordo
- 3:00is dead. You did well for the fuck of the ultra night, Li
- 3:04fell sun and the troll that you let me have trunk of the car.
- 3:08Embargo, look at my friend more you' re tacky with tips and as
- 3:14the pieces are fitting in, the fabulous is missing one. The last prel
- 3:28Vladimir, a film by Martin Rionich with Daniel Aras, Carlos Belloso, Marcelo
- 3:36Melingo and cast Vladimir, premiered in Salas 11 April. Martín Rushnick is the
- 3:52director of Vladimir, the disturbing psychological thriller starring Daniel Araos, Carlos bevil O
- 4:00Marcelo Melingo, which opens tomorrow in more than thirty rooms across the country.
- 4:09We are then in communication with Martin Rishnich. It' s a great pleasure.
- 4:15Greeting Martin, welcome to GPS audio- visual Radio. How are you
- 4:20listening to me? Okay. We' re in some communication trouble today,
- 4:28but we' re connected to Vladimir' s director. This film, which
- 4:32premieres tomorrow in more than thirty theaters across the country. It is a shocking
- 4:41thriller, with a really very, very striking cast that is Daniel Araoz.
- 4:47He' s the protagonist of this story. He is the almost exclusive protagonist
- 4:53of this story, in which Carlos Belloso and Marcelo Melingo also work. I
- 4:59don' t know if you' re listening to me, Martin. I
- 5:03think you got your mike speckled. That' s why we can' t
- 5:14communicate if we' re there. Well, I' m listening to you
- 5:16now. Perfect to perfect. Well welcome to GPS Audiovisual Radio. How well,
- 5:24thank you, how did you get to Vladimir? What part of your
- 5:27own history and your experience as a plastic artist resonated in your head as you
- 5:34approached the one who approached this story in the cinema. Well, just the
- 5:41starting point was that' s not cho. From my very early age I
- 5:48devoted myself to the plastic arts and had a whole journey. I went from
- 5:55the neighborhood workshops and from there until good to finish a high school, a
- 6:05high school of vellaneda and get into fine arts in the nickname that sometimes no
- 6:11longer exists moons at the National University of Arts. Yes, on that journey
- 6:17I have the opportunity to meet many people, such as Pereceris Marta Minujín,
- 6:25Well, countless people dedicated to art, painting, sculpture, Well, the
- 6:31general arts and at the same time the circumstances surrounding all that eventuality. And
- 6:42Vladimir comes up a little bit from those anecdotes of those, memories of his
- 6:46own experiences and also experiences lived by others who tell you about them. And
- 6:55that' s where I start writing Vladimir, which started about six seven years
- 6:59ago. Now the interesting thing that I found in all this was to see
- 7:06how we could cross, involve all that personal experience with a genre that is
- 7:16the step, the psychological triller, the black comedy and here I round up
- 7:26the idea we super urban Always this is our fourth film. We always resort
- 7:31to gender. We don' t like being impacted by gender. In this
- 7:40case, well the triller to see how we could mix these two universes.
- 7:46And that' s where Bladimir comes from. And that' s why Bladimire
- 7:49is a very strange film, because it refers to the art world, but
- 7:57at the same time it has a structure of psychological and black comedy triller.
- 8:01No, I mean, we managed to combine both universes. Now, how
- 8:05long it took to get to this premiere tomorrow, how the project started and
- 8:11how it was modified on the way look. I' m telling you,
- 8:18writing started six years ago. That of coming from the policy and decisions of
- 8:30each government that went into reference INCA traced us a lot. The truth is
- 8:37that. It was a lot of fun for us until good. One day
- 8:43they tell you about INCA, they call you good. You have this support
- 8:48and having support from INCA is gravitating to ninety percent of the chances of doing
- 8:54it or not doing it. We got together the producers said good to see
- 9:01we made a decision. We don' t do it. It was a
- 9:03very low budget, very low, it was a risk that had to be
- 9:11taken and we decided to do it and that' s why we rolled it
- 9:20for just before the pandemic was over. We are in two thousand twenty-
- 9:24two of an entire post- production twenty- three year and today we are
- 9:31here with the film finished. But, in addition, a luxury, a
- 9:35dream realized, because it remained, that is, despite all the time that
- 9:43happened and the vicissitudes that we went through and the difficulties, there remained a
- 9:48film of which we can feel very but very proud. And how was the
- 9:52process of formation, of forming the cast, how the decision to give Daniel
- 10:01Araos the central role of this story Mira was at first very chaotic everything because
- 10:09I say, it was a film with a very but very low budget.
- 10:16But at the same time we had a lot of confidence in the stories,
- 10:22we believed that a project could be developed at that time I say in the
- 10:30potential, because at that time we didn' t know exactly what where it
- 10:37was going and we started talking to many actors to try to record a cast,
- 10:43also harmonious in the sense that, as it is the story, it
- 10:50' s pretty choral to find, to find the attribute here of each character
- 11:00with an actor that corresponded to that And and well, suddenly Daniel appeared.
- 11:01I really don' t remember how the name came up. I called him
- 11:07on the phone. We talked I sent him on copy. He liked it.
- 11:11I was given the truth that daniel ends up building that story that I
- 11:16wrote, because daniel puts him tells me look for me, Vladimir is this
- 11:22and I said it was not what I had thought. But I like it,
- 11:28I like it, and well, because the cinema is to watch.
- 11:35I would have been a fool if I had tied myself to the script.
- 11:39The script is one thing, that is variable mobile that until the last day
- 11:45of filming goes through reforms, modifications and is adjusted through the characters developed by
- 11:52human beings, that is, it ceases to be a black letter on a
- 11:58white paper. And of course it is this that you have just explained what
- 12:03the actors bring and what each one contributes to and be open to the possibility
- 12:11of that contribution, which is the likelihood, besides the character, not now,
- 12:16Vladimir has metaphysical moments, mysterious deaths, apparitions from the hereafter. How
- 12:24was the process of crossing genders. Look, I think, I believe by
- 12:33the decision let' s say this crossover of genres. That' s if
- 12:41I make a hermeneutic of myself, it' s like I' m not
- 12:46gonna make it. But I can tell you that as a movie girl I
- 12:54don' t know how to watch ten movies a week and I don'
- 13:01t like it. I mean, I' m a big movie consumer.
- 13:03And now we have the possibility of platforms. But earlier, Wednesdays, Saturdays
- 13:09and Sundays, I went to the movies to see something no matter. I
- 13:13was even short on programming, but I still had to go and watch the
- 13:18mummy and I had to go into a room and watch a movie. I
- 13:24think there' s an accumulation there that goes on in the unconscious, that
- 13:31the way to describe and then after when you already run it and you run
- 13:39it weigh all those experiences can be experiences that have to do with the actor.
- 13:48Admiring an actor a lot, I don' t know how to put
- 13:50Marlon brand or let' s go with a name. Or admire a director
- 13:52a lot, Christopher Nolan or Federico Fellini or Justurica or yes, and when
- 14:01I think that when you sit down to write and then when you sit down
- 14:05and look at what you wrote, they' re not directly quoted, but
- 14:13they' re ghosts that walk around they' re, they' re,
- 14:18they' re, they' re in your unconscious And when you' re
- 14:24directing and you give a choice, I don' t like the word to
- 14:28address Daniel Arados, I don' t address it. We don' t
- 14:31talk and I give you one choice and you give me another. That'
- 14:35s why this movie is good, because and the others I said I keep
- 14:41the same concept. I don' t like the word directing, I don
- 14:46' t like the traffic being directed I know, but it' s one
- 14:52thing because you have to have a symbiosis with the actor. I was gonna
- 14:56say with your actor, with my actor. And it' s also wrong,
- 14:58because it' s not my or anyone' s property. But the
- 15:01actors I love, I love them are my brothers in the creative process.
- 15:07Not that I' m saying. We did not come to a conclusion,
- 15:13the same with the technical team, the same with the production team. For
- 15:16me we' re brothers in a quixoteada. We are quijotes there breaking the
- 15:22wind and good by clouds on the same road. I mean, it'
- 15:28s a collective creation, where, well, there' s a director,
- 15:31there' s a producer, but there' s a team going in that
- 15:35direction. It is not true in that line of argument, at least now,
- 15:43with the final result in sight, with Vladimir already finished, what you
- 15:48see there, with what the public will find from tomorrow. It' s
- 15:58a movie he' s got, he keeps a suspense from start to finish,
- 16:06he' s going to look for ploughs to laugh at. You won
- 16:08' t laugh though there are comedy steps at times, but there' s
- 16:11a ploughs there. There' s a great Daniel, great great. I
- 16:18think he' s taking his work to a huge plane. In my opinion,
- 16:22then everyone who sees him give to his own. But it' s
- 16:26a movie that catches you. It' s a film at the same time
- 16:32that, between crossing various genres, it makes you uncomfortable, it' s
- 16:37not going to be comfortable in the chair peacefully, but it generates many questions
- 16:47that go there solving towards the end of the film. That' s why
- 16:51I reinforce what I said at the beginning, which has a principle suspension.
- 16:53Finally and with a very but hallucinating photograph very good, very good. The
- 17:03picture is tremendous, the performance of the boys, the girls, the truth
- 17:11that they left everything. Besides good, Daniel is the protagonist, but there
- 17:14' s Carlos Belloso, Maelgenia, Rigón, Marcelo Mengo, Well, help
- 17:22me, because I don' t believe I saw anyone, but Mario,
- 17:26Jenia, Rigón Germán, Baudino is Diego. Alonso is not a cast or
- 17:33really that I feel privileged to have been able to count on them so that,
- 17:41in short, one wants to tell a story, not when one makes
- 17:44a film yes clear and count on these performers. Really, for me it
- 17:52was a luxury, a dream. So yes, Martin Reunich, well,
- 17:57let' s not go much further. Let' s leave the suspense that
- 18:04Vladimir has and let people find out. From tomorrow we are in communication with
- 18:11Martín Rigneu, visual artist and filmmaker, director of this psychological thriller, with
- 18:18Daniel Araos, Carlos Belloso, Marcelo Melingo and cast that will be seen in
- 18:23more than thirty rooms throughout the country. Thank you very much for being with
- 18:30us and good merc as it is said there, with this premiere of Vladimir.
- 18:37From tomorrow then in halls all over the country we continue on GPS,
- 18:41audiovisual, radio, but I am said that' s me when I was
- 18:52ten years old and that' s my neighborhood where the story is born.
- 19:00Here too, there is a stage that ends. I see it changed since
- 19:03you went to life and you' re in fart is my dog, that
- 19:11let it already be here you' re going to change it Juan and the
- 19:15less we cross them better for him and for everyone. They look at the
- 19:19whole movement, at what time I left and how many are the family.
- 19:22It' s all moved and you' re gonna have the stick and the
- 19:26gobo. The Lord also has the phrases. I' m all your space,
- 19:38and that' s why the boys don' t know. I kept
- 19:41seeing pol costs a week what happens he won' t see for my house
- 19:49okay. This has more. If you came down you would go to the
- 19:57boat and we would have liked to know what was the last day of our
- 20:11childhood to face tomorrow not press with Ofelia, but I think that early you
- 20:15come out so dull by the inauguration of the new temple. You want me
- 20:18to take care of the last of Sunday. Let' s stop at the
- 20:22rose. We can' t go straight. I' m gonna handle myself
- 20:26if you' re tired, you' re not in the fort of and
- 20:30I have to teach you things. Let' s still walk safely. There
- 20:37' s a town about patience, Leny the good lord won' t leave
- 20:41us now hear you' re the josé or whatever I need. This is
- 20:53a woman, I' m not, no, she' s not my
- 20:56daughter Elena' s wife. How much you reckon, sir, I get
- 21:02you in olaca. Don' t worry about us. We have time and
- 21:07where you are nowhere to be praised. Lord Blessings brothers? Bless you brothers,
- 21:21but what' s your name? I' m Emilio, you don
- 21:23' t get the punch. You don' t get the punch. I
- 21:26' m worth just like God gave you a mighty beautiful spirit. I'
- 21:30d like to invite Josemilio to a baptism. Here where Pastor Saca is careful
- 21:37what' s sticking his head in. In the village there are many evangelicals,
- 21:41just as you jokers are if it wasn' t for me where I
- 21:49would walk have that day of Juan Yes, the wind that sweeps away with
- 21:57direction of Paula Hernández, hailed in Toronto and San Sebastiá. The wind that
- 22:02razes premiere in Salas Thursday 21st of March is with the Undersecretary of Culture of
- 22:15Vicente López and director of the Lumitón project, Adriano Brucese. Its area is
- 22:22closely linked to Argentine cinema. He is a promoter of initiatives such as the
- 22:30Vecine program, Vecine del cinema York or the Lumiton Museum. Thank you for
- 22:37joining us here on Radio Adriano audio- visual GPS. Well, you'
- 22:41re in full swing. At this very moment Juan Moreira is about to be
- 22:45shown at the York cinema, so thank you for taking care of us.
- 22:48No, please, how' s Julia? Thanks to you. We'
- 22:52re looking at the latest images in Naufragio. He' s coming at twenty
- 22:57- thirty. Juan Moreira perfect and tomorrow, since we are windy that breed
- 23:03that finished movie last by Paula Hernández with the free entrance, that good here
- 23:08in the cinema York as great movie. The wind that sweeps away, great
- 23:15film, great film, Well, the cycle looks Argentine takes place in the
- 23:22cinema York and puts in value the work of fundamental filmmakers. You just mentioned
- 23:26the Liceo Subiela, but also Leonardo Fabio Adolfo will point out the objective and
- 23:33how you evaluate the audience' s response. A clarification only for the audience.
- 23:42The York cinema at our main operating center, because we have performances from
- 23:48Wednesday to Sunday. Sometimes we also have the marquees, but usually Friday to
- 23:52Sunday. But also in the Munro Cultural Center, which is the old synastral
- 23:56on the street Belejárgel, already very few squares of the house of the stars
- 24:00of the lumiton, we also have projections. That is a cultural center called
- 24:04Munro Cultural Center today, and there are also performances there on Thursdays and Sundays.
- 24:10This little clarification is made not only by York, but also by the
- 24:14stamun ro cinema as well, and in that cinema we screen the same poster.
- 24:18Let' s say we promote the same curatorship, that we promote the
- 24:25fundamental objective here. We permanently curate national cinema, because it seems to us
- 24:27to be a way, obviously, of embracing our culture. Our cultural heritage
- 24:33is important, because our cinema speaks. He speaks of our sovereignty, speaks
- 24:38of our identity, speaks of our freedom, speaks of our contradictions, of
- 24:42our achievements and of our history. Also then it is unthinkable that a state
- 24:48or municipal management, rather like that, that takes place the Lumiton and the
- 24:51Secretariat of Culture one does not promote and in a city of cinema unesco to
- 24:56our national cinema. So the first reason is yes. It is true that
- 25:00in these months we have boosted this idea, because you know that with the
- 25:06run of the months there are every time and of the years let' s
- 25:10say less and less screens. The big problem with national cinema is that there
- 25:12are no screens to watch national cinema, because today the cinema business goes through
- 25:17the other side, not the sale of the entrance, but the sale of
- 25:18pochoclo. We do not want to entertain, We do not want to distract.
- 25:23We want to generate cultural fabric between the neighbors and, say, between
- 25:30the community of vecines and the community of artists. That' s why,
- 25:33normally, then in the movies there are open dialogues, notice that in this
- 25:38screening the film now ends. They are in my frankel to speak protagonist along
- 25:42with Lorenzo Quinteros of last images, the Naufragio, and there is also marcela
- 25:47Saez, who was the historical editor, historical companion of Viseo. Then the
- 25:52answer is wonderful. The cinema is full. The cinema is full. One
- 25:56hundred and eighty- two hundred people, one hundred and seventy two hundred belts,
- 26:02that is, cinema does not go down. From there. Then there
- 26:03is a very great need and desire to see our national cinema. And it
- 26:07seems to me that every now and then, in some contexts, it comes
- 26:10very well to review it. And as you were saying, you watch movies
- 26:12more than thirty years ago, as can be the work of the Lyceum go
- 26:17further still like the other day we saw two movies. Leaving a second shadow
- 26:19of antine and there' s a lot of interest. And what gets a
- 26:22lot of attention doesn' t get my attention, but people get attention.
- 26:27It' s just that there' s a lot of youth blowing up these
- 26:30movies. So there' s a huge interest in watching our national cinema.
- 26:33Beyond the platforms. There is a great desire to see national cinema in community,
- 26:40in cinema with the light out, sharing an experience. It seems to
- 26:44me that there is something about that, that mystique or that magic, or
- 26:48that it is simply a cultural habit that we greater, that we are accustomed,
- 26:53that is taking place today in these days around here and of which we
- 26:57are very happy. On the other hand, of course, well, right
- 27:02here he was passing at some point solanic victories when you were doing the cycle
- 27:07dedicated to Pino, to his father, and he told us about this,
- 27:12of the repercussion of the young audience who had never seen a Pino film and
- 27:21who were extremely surprised and happy to have access to this type of artists.
- 27:27Not entirely, because you know what' s wrong with them. Mira happened
- 27:32to us with victory precisely determined to watch the South movie that I love and
- 27:36have it there on the topic, because for not a movie that I love
- 27:41for how it is made. For everything, let' s say favor Pino,
- 27:45but tell me a film that speaks of an inner exile, of an
- 27:48inward exile, of the exile that was lived inside at the time, in
- 27:52the last process, is in the last dictatorship and that someone twenty years old
- 27:57comes and they tell you many, but thank you very much. Why,
- 28:03because I' m done understanding our story. There' s something I'
- 28:07m done understanding that if they have my parents, they' re scrubbing me.
- 28:08There' s something you just saw with the movie, visualize and finish
- 28:12clicking. And that usually happens with all the movies. I mean, we
- 28:21' re very happy about that. On the one hand, there is a
- 28:23great desire to get closer to these issues, beyond the personal tastes of each
- 28:30one, to what kind of cinema there is and to understand that cinema plays
- 28:33that role as well and that our cultural heritage has to do with that,
- 28:37that it is the one who tells us, the one who speaks of us,
- 28:42the one who has to do with our adn, with our identity,
- 28:45in short, with our sovereignty, with our freedom, with our contradictions,
- 28:49with everything that comes in there. And it' s beautiful. It'
- 28:52s really beautiful, because one would think that those twenty- year- olds
- 28:56I am are just on platforms or watching movies on different devices. It'
- 29:02s not full of private. Watching movies. In cinema, then there is
- 29:04also something intergenerational, because in open talks, then having someone in their 70s
- 29:11commenting on something that is contemporary to their history. But someone in their twenties
- 29:17is very interesting how we' re weaving culture. I think it' s
- 29:21very nice. Yes, very interesting. We have references to all the work
- 29:26that you have been doing and of good, what is happening like this in
- 29:33the York cinema and now also in monro, which is exactly to celebrate by
- 29:38double game, not because to open more theaters, more possibilities to see Argentine
- 29:45cinema in moments where it is happening. Quite the opposite. It' s
- 29:49absolutely very, very important now. The preservation of heritage is another good aspect.
- 29:56It is one of the historically neglected aspects of national natural mourning organs.
- 30:02How the ucin contributes to the lumiton to recover and restore historical files. Perfect.
- 30:08He' s good at the question, if you' d let me
- 30:11out a little bit. The file is fundamental. The first thing we did
- 30:15in the year two thousand and fifteen was to value the house of the stars,
- 30:21which was the house where Enrique Telemacozusini the madmen of the roof dreamed the
- 30:25producer Lumiton, that is, they bought that house and from there built.
- 30:30Then, the first thing we did was to put that person in value so
- 30:33that we could think of it as a center of operations or better said,
- 30:37like a Ucina that is how it works so many workshops organizing the cycles and
- 30:44there was material, because there was a museum that was thanks to the effort
- 30:48of the neighbors of Vicente López, who at the time there, in the
- 30:52mid- 1990s, had embraced it and had achieved that the space has been
- 30:53declared a historical monument. The reality is that he was still in no condition,
- 30:57he lacked maintenance. We found the original plans of the house and decided
- 31:04to return it to what it originally was. It is in the room where
- 31:08I had slept, nor marjal the living where the scripts of the Tuesday orchids
- 31:15were written, is to go, begin to understand what place occupied within our
- 31:19national history that space. Then, the first thing we began to preserve and
- 31:23recover was in some documentation, which also allowed us to write a book later.
- 31:29Let' s say we can carry out a book where all the Lumiton
- 31:34information is, all the Lumiton documents. We went out to buy all the
- 31:41posters because there were no posters from the producer. Today there are eighty-
- 31:44eight posters of the one hundred and two films that were filmed along two faces,
- 31:48two of each and a half, and then we start doing a deeper
- 31:51job. In relation to film material. There was very little in the house,
- 31:56but immediately when the project began to take on visibility, there began to
- 32:01be a lot of input from many neighbors, some filmmakers coming from the 70s
- 32:07of experimental cinema, such as Horacio Valheregio or the collection of Tabo Boroski,
- 32:13who was the first artistic director to have the Argentine events. Then, or
- 32:15this macarium material, this experimental director photographer, that is, began to arrive
- 32:22a lot of material and we began to catalogue it, we began to sort
- 32:28it out, we prepared one of the environments with the cold and adapted it
- 32:31for the need of that antihumidity that needs a space, of that nature,
- 32:37and we began to produce the elements so that we could see that material,
- 32:42with a projector thirty- five, with a projector sixteen, with rooms that
- 32:45allow us to work in that sense, with the tables that allow us to
- 32:51review those materials and from there we began to put in value a lot of
- 32:54collections. We worked on García Ferrey' s files, everything that was smas
- 33:01de hijitos and well, all that series of short films that, being children
- 33:09there, in the mid- 1970s, one ran out of school for his
- 33:14home to see it is exactly. There' s a wonderful job that has
- 33:17to do with the file, with the story we' re carrying out.
- 33:21We advised and joined the team people who had more experience than us, but
- 33:24immediately one learns the most important, the most important, and currently we are.
- 33:34This seems to me to close. Or we' re working on the
- 33:39digital restoration of three films, of three Lumiton titles as the first advance in
- 33:47order to get that heritage back. Of course, because the Lumiton films are
- 33:53scattered. Some have the Cinema Museum, some have the Cinematics that some have
- 33:58the Cinematics of INNK. Let' s say yes, some in the hands
- 34:05of private collectors, others in the hands of matures. You know where,
- 34:07but well, so the work you' re doing is really formidable to talk
- 34:15a lot more, so we' re gonna summon you on another occasion.
- 34:21Adriano Brusse, thank you very much for this meeting here on GPS audiovisual Radio
- 34:28we will follow very closely, very carefully the proposals of the area of Culture
- 34:32of Vicente López, linked to the Argentine audiovisual and good congratulations for this work
- 34:39and, above all at this moment, where it is not the most common
- 34:45thing, I would say that it is almost unusual to carry forward this type
- 34:49of proposals. Thank you very much, thank you very much, Julián,
- 34:52hug and it is important the latter, lumiton ar. Yeah, yeah,
- 34:55they' re gonna be able to find at a platform level the whole project,
- 35:01everything we' re restoring, everything we' re doing, where the
- 35:05project points, why it' s a project chosen by Unesco. And besides,
- 35:08there was a beautiful national filmography. At this moment there is an Aristaran
- 35:13cycle to watch, to review much of his films and there are also other
- 35:17very interesting international jewels out there to review many. Let' s grade then
- 35:22carefully. Thank you so much, we' re still on GPS audio-
- 35:55visual, radio have faith in me you have to believe me you desperate give
- 36:14yourselves to medicine, science. Those superstitions of yours will destroy me. Make
- 36:39my immortal, El Santo, a film by Agustín Carbonere, award for the
- 36:50best film in the international competition of the Baffisi. The Holy premiere only in
- 36:57Salas one day I was with mom chatting in tual she painted herself. She
- 37:15was a very pretty woman and I naturally came out of seven who was a
- 37:22fucking Jew. My mom grabs me and tells me not to say that because
- 37:30your father is Jewish. Las Dos mariet a film by Poly Martínez caplum world
- 37:37premiere Mar del Plata International Film Festival. Tomorrow Thursday eleven premieres Las Dos marieta
- 37:52documentary with direction, production and script by Poly Martínez Caplu It is the reconstruction
- 38:02of a family memory that challenges us by talking basically about our identity. After
- 38:10its premiere at the Mar del Plata International Film Festival, the Dos Mariet now
- 38:16arrives at the Patio Burrich Atlas Room in its first week of exhibition. We
- 38:24' re with Poly Martínez Caplum. Thank you so much for joining us,
- 38:29Polly and How are you doing, thanks to you, Julián. Well,
- 38:31the Two Marit poses, without saying so, the question of how it transforms
- 38:38the history of our ancestors. By bringing to the present what led you to
- 38:43address this issue. Well, I think I' ve already been working on
- 38:49this subject, especially from my second film, called The House of Vance,
- 38:53it' s from my own family story. The trigger for that film is
- 39:01my son' s decision to make his Bamitsman, which is the Jewish retanization
- 39:08to adulthood that surprised me when he walked with his father to tell us this
- 39:16of his decision, because we do not have Jewish traditions in our house.
- 39:24And when I went to the father, yes, I was always agnostic and
- 39:32never had traditions in my family and when we went to the temple there I
- 39:44was asked if I was Jewish and it' s his decision. It made
- 39:47me wonder, too, what was going on with my own traditions or my
- 39:52Jewish root that I came of Jewish origin from my mother' s side,
- 40:00and I also realized that it made me realize that I knew very little about
- 40:06my family history and, in any case, if I could tell him that
- 40:10I had a Jewish mother who was me well, what had happened to that
- 40:15Judaism in my family, because we had no traditions. So that' s
- 40:22where I went on a search. I also left the documentary through the documentary
- 40:29about the history of my family, of Judaism, why I didn' t
- 40:31know about this story, that interruption. That which had come to me,
- 40:37which was a legacy of silence. Let' s say a story that had
- 40:44been transmitted and those are the themes of this second documentary. Then someone tells
- 40:47me good. Watching the documentary at Vance' s house, you' re
- 40:52probably going to be interested in Mariet' s story, which is the protagonist
- 40:57of the two- seater film, Marie Diaman. Yes, Mariet Diamand,
- 41:01who has just a hidden story. She only at seventy years old began to
- 41:07speak of her origin, also of her Jewish origin. They come from the
- 41:13Second War, they become Catholicism, with the singularity that they never speak again
- 41:17of that past of refugees, of persecuted Jews in the Second War, If
- 41:23they did not escape, they deported them, they killed them and come to
- 41:30Argentina with papers because they are converted to be able to come to Argentina and
- 41:36they do not speak again about this subject of Judaism. They are already French
- 41:42Catholics who actually originated from French Jews. They pass on to our French Catholics
- 41:46and so they present themselves to society to belong. They have integrated what the
- 41:55Argentine aristocracy would be at that time. That' s Majet' s story
- 42:02that sounds like this second movie. Of course now, why Marie Diamante and
- 42:09not another one that led you to make the decision that it was her,
- 42:14that just this secret that she kept for so many decades and that, somehow,
- 42:23has to do with your own family history. But why good mariet.
- 42:29Marieta' s story is very particular. Yes, Marita' s story is
- 42:32very particular, because she kept this secret for many years. I was really
- 42:42interested in her story, but especially that she had already started talking about it.
- 42:46She at the age of seventy meets a person called the Wootkowski Lend,
- 42:51who invites her to meetings of French survivors. She recognizes her as an Argentine
- 43:00French immigrant survivor, something Maria didn' t know about herself. Hence she
- 43:06meets a group of Jewish people who came for that time, World War II.
- 43:12So, good her. Finally, this resulted in a book, all
- 43:15these meetings with these people and books with chapters of stories of each one.
- 43:21One of those chapters is Marieta' s story and what interested me particularly in
- 43:23mariet' s story is her story, but also why. Mary says it
- 43:30in the book She couldn' t tell it in her circle. It was
- 43:34so hard for the light to talk about this and for others to hear this.
- 43:40She said in the book that people didn' t want her to talk.
- 43:45So, well, today, you can' t even speak a story
- 43:49that happened eighty years seen origins, origins of war, trauma, of Judaism,
- 43:55because that' s what I think that' s what I wanted to
- 44:00discover through the film that also spoke in some way, of the validity,
- 44:05of the prejudices and of the estimation that it is appears in some film.
- 44:12Yes, clearly, they appear very very very reflected, very emergent. So
- 44:16close up, not good. Tomorrow, the documentary on identity, which closes
- 44:22a trilogy started with Lea and Mira, is presented to the Dos mariet They
- 44:29leave their mark and what you mentioned just in Van' s house c What
- 44:35reflection you are looking for that leaves in the spectator the Dos Marieta this of
- 44:42identity. You saw that it is a term that is identities, religious identity,
- 44:46or gender identity or identity. I am discussing this terminology a little because
- 44:53I do not think it is about the subject of her religious identity, which
- 45:00she can already have in any case, I see it as something broader,
- 45:05as a subject of why done it happens to her as in so many regions
- 45:15of the world and with so many problems of prejudice, stigmatization and trauma,
- 45:22also beyond the repressed peoples. That is, what happens to people when they
- 45:28have to survive these traumas and how they do to face them and then how
- 45:35they do to transmit them, how the succeeding generations find out, that they
- 45:40carry that trauma on them, because even if there are no words, those
- 45:45experiences are transmitted, they find themselves in their trained way of being upon us.
- 45:52Well, the movie. I think he talks a lot about that,
- 45:57that how we carry what our ancestors have experienced and is a history of migration,
- 46:04is a history of Argentina. It is a history of the Second War,
- 46:08probably of Judenism, also because this is also a good topic. We
- 46:15strongly recommend meeting with the two mariet This documentary by Poli Martínez caplum since tomorrow
- 46:24is exhibited in the Atlas Patio Burritz. It is the story of a silence,
- 46:30of a drama, of a trauma, of meeting, of searching,
- 46:37of looking for us and it is a testimony of the reconstruction of a buried
- 46:45family memory. Thank you for joining us, Poli, a very big kiss.
- 46:51Thank you very much to Julián. We' re still on GPS audio
- 46:55- visual radio. That' s the story of my hole I' m
- 47:05your impression permit. So, recently, the position of Manager was released and
- 47:07I applied for it. The new one of resources. It' s years.
- 47:13Looks like he' s going to make me mine for everyone there because
- 47:17he' s the son of I don' t know who, because he
- 47:22' s pretty, obviously daughter they were going to put him a lot of
- 47:23fairness. Neither you nor I had a chance. We were not in the
- 47:25eternal for the post. It' s no longer important for your husband to
- 47:31be a brother who' s the most popular in the world. This is
- 47:36a cut- off company and something I said. You have to be wrong.
- 47:42Hang in there, you gotta dance. One looked like tris throwing at
- 47:51us, another time they had land comba. You and I are gallows.
- 47:54Not a rush to revolution like us. Don' t do anything. I
- 48:02have a plan Brurito love or Brown. There are two types of extracting female
- 48:39sissy Revolution will be the closing film of the cycle Argentine Directors, organized by
- 48:49GPS Audiovisual and genre Dak in the cinema art Cacodelfia. Tuesday the 16th.
- 48:53At 19 o' clock we are with Sabrina Farschi, director of Mariku Mujer
- 49:01Revolución, its most recent release a documentary essay about the life of Mariquita Sanchez
- 49:08de Thompson, starring Zoe Gotuso and Maira Bonard. Thank you for being with
- 49:14us again, Sabrina, welcome. How are you hello, Julia, what
- 49:20a joy Well Mariquita deals with the life of Mariquita Sanchez de Thompson through these
- 49:27two protagonists that you chose that led you to raise the need to tell the
- 49:32story. With this split of two actresses. Well it seemed to me that
- 49:42Mariquita I, who lived many years, lived eighty- four years, something
- 49:47very particular, especially a woman of the nineteenth century and then there were like
- 49:54several mariquitas inside a different moments of her life and it seemed to me that
- 50:01it was good to differentiate a first stage as more rebellious and another from her
- 50:08adulthood. Then the young rebel incarnates her zego tuso that puts the voice,
- 50:19especially in the time of her is when it is the anthem not. She
- 50:23is part of the revolutionary women of 25 May and then Maira, who is
- 50:30already in her adulthood and who puts the body. I mean. I liked
- 50:35how to make that differentiation. And they' re two artists who say that
- 50:42' s like their forts and what you were looking for in them. Let
- 50:46' s say what different aspects they brought to you for the construction of these
- 50:55versions of faggot. Well, first of all, I wasn' t looking
- 51:01for anything that looked like them, because there aren' t many images of
- 51:06Mariquita either, so first there' s a single aguerreotype of her when she
- 51:09' s too old, but then there' s a lot of pictures and
- 51:13in all of them it' s very different. It' s like they
- 51:15' ve made a free version, so there' s no way to say
- 51:20good is like that or that. But I was interested in how to show
- 51:25that Mariquita is a contemporary woman, who is a woman who, beyond the
- 51:30time she lived, is still very prevalent today. That' s why I
- 51:39cared that it was, for example, good his own ego and leave her
- 51:44with her current hair and that her tattoos are seen. Maira also has many
- 51:47scenes where she works with physical performance and interacts with a video. There aren
- 51:55' t those time crossings where. I think it brings a sense of telling
- 52:04this that Mariquita is a woman who transcends her time now. And well,
- 52:09speaking of Mariquita concretely, what attracted you to her, that she is a
- 52:16protofeminist, that she is a woman of another century not, that is to
- 52:25say, another century In reality, when I heard of her, she distanced
- 52:29me a lot, that is not, But the truth that getting me into
- 52:37her history and knowing her whole life, which is very well written in the
- 52:42book of Mary Saes Quezada, that is where I said borrow women is from
- 52:47today, that is, that I could corroborate that her struggles were mine today
- 52:54or my companions, was to face life to her passion. I don'
- 52:59t know your search bu surprised me so much. I was very surprised by
- 53:05her freedom and how she didn' t keep the easy one, so she
- 53:13was somehow the things she didn' t like. He tried to transform them
- 53:19by putting the pen and the body all the exiles as well and a lot
- 53:28of money and lots of goodbyes. Let' s say, I don'
- 53:34t know, I felt very identified and this you discovered with the research or
- 53:44also when you decided to give this form to the film, not with the
- 53:50research, that is, it arises from the research. But what was very
- 53:51curious is that when I started to investigate, I got together with researchers,
- 53:58one of them, which is that they are ns in the documentary, and
- 54:05I realized that there was like a group of ladybug worshipers, that is,
- 54:08that it had not happened only to me, but that that astonishment and that
- 54:15ligature that we had with the character, passed to him a lot of other
- 54:20women who, especially women who had had contact with the story of María Sáez
- 54:24Quesada, who later likewise appeared a lot of other research books about the history
- 54:30of women. There are several studios where Mariquita is not the only one,
- 54:37of course, but well, Mariquita is very emblematic. That' s why
- 54:44she was also part of the women' s room. And what a conclusion
- 54:49or legacy the film leaves. Well, first I' d tell you what
- 54:57resonates most when viewers see her, this thing about how I didn' t
- 55:06learn this before, how I liked this information, how Mariquita' s character
- 55:15didn' t know so much more, that' s more than she was
- 55:19the girl who lent the house to eventually sing the anthem, which is what
- 55:23you really know. This is all and in reality, but that in a
- 55:28class that is did so little and yet why you mention it to me,
- 55:34for it is not so much not so it is yes, yes, yes
- 55:39more at that time to sing a forbidden song as it really was, because
- 55:44the hymn was actually the song that those who believed in freedom sang, because
- 55:50until that moment we were part of the Kingdom of Spain. Then, yes,
- 55:57it probably was very dangerous to sing the anthem in a private house.
- 56:04It was very played, good to know much more. Then about Mariquita.
- 56:10We invite you especially to the closing of the cycle Argentine directors, with the
- 56:19screening on Tuesday sixteen at nineteen in cinema art Cacodelfia by Mariquita woman Revolution and
- 56:25there will be Sabrina Farchi also to talk with the spectators. We thank you
- 56:35very much to accompany us and with this projection we close the cycle of Argentine
- 56:44directors, this stage of the cycle where filmmakers, producers and actresses and women
- 56:52revolution like Sabrina Farchi herself give us their gaze of the world and leave their
- 57:00mark within Argentine cinema at this moment, which needs today more than ever the
- 57:06support of the spectators. That is why we are leaving until next Wednesday with
- 57:10these three words, which are a statement of principle. See Argentine cinema until
- 57:17next week and thank you for accompanying us with a big kiss Sabrina. Thank
- 57:22you very much, thank you, thank you, this was GPS audio-
- 57:44visual radio. We expect you next Wednesday at 19 hours by radio thirty or
- 57:55thirty capi o