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Hour Two | Dr. Etheredge, Saints vs. Ravens & Princewill Served Papers · Off The Bench

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  Speaker 1: With Jacob Hester and Matt Flynn.
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  Speaker 1: Where the plays get broken down and science gets denied.
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  Speaker 2: Dude, they said I gotta come off the bench.
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  Speaker 1: Hour two of Off the Bench, live from the Raising
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  Speaker 3: All right, welcome back in. OTB here live from the
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  Speaker 2: Also, Wednesdays, Dr.
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  Speaker 3: Steven Nathridge joins us every single Wednesday at 8 a.m.
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  Speaker 2: Doc, how we doing? How we living? Doing great. Doc,
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  Speaker 2: we got to get you a poncho. Yeah, we do
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  Speaker 2: hate you a bunch.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not going to object. I think you
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  Speaker 4: did offer, actually, a while back. Yeah, and I was like, hey,
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  Speaker 4: send me the sizes. Yeah, I never got around to it.
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  Speaker 4: The photo was on me, so I'm not. I got sidetracked.
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  Speaker 4: You did offer, so the offer was extended.
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  Speaker 2: I did offer. I do appreciate it. I just never
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  Speaker 2: got around to it. Hey, how about this? I got
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  Speaker 2: a marker. What size shirt do you wear? I'm a large.
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  Speaker 5: All right.
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  Speaker 2: There we go. We got it.
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  Speaker 3: We go large regular or large slim because there's two
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  Speaker 3: different options.
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  Speaker 2: You got so many options. Probably regular. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I haven't been doing quite as good on my diet.
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  Speaker 4: Slim might be a little too slim.
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  Speaker 2: This is an XL slim. Yeah. I'm an XL slim guy.
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  Speaker 2: It's more like the sleeves are a little.
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  Speaker 6: Bit more tapered.
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  Speaker 2: You know, sometimes it's sometimes better. So yeah. Yeah. That
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  Speaker 2: is true though too.
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  Speaker 6: I got faith in you doc.
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  Speaker 2: You can go slim. I'll go slim. Yeah. We'll see. Um,
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  Speaker 2: all right.
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  Speaker 3: So week one, the NFL going to get to some
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  Speaker 3: of those injuries. We'll get to some stuff in college. Uh,
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  Speaker 3: I text you, uh, I want to talk about meniscus
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  Speaker 3: because so Brock Bowers for the Vegas Raiders, like he's
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  Speaker 3: got a meniscus and I think that is an injury
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  Speaker 3: that can come with so many different variations and, and
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  Speaker 3: he's getting a trim, and he's supposed to be back
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  Speaker 3: in two weeks.
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  Speaker 6: Me and Matt have talked about it before.
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  Speaker 3: I got a trim eight days before the Sugar Bowl
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  Speaker 3: and played in the game, and there's some that you
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  Speaker 3: get repaired, and you're not playing in eight days, right,
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  Speaker 3: if they have to totally repair it. Like, how many
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  Speaker 3: different variations of a meniscus injury can there be?
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  Speaker 2: And because.
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  Speaker 6: Correct me if I'm wrong. You don't grow more, correct?
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  Speaker 2: Correct.
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  Speaker 6: And so like once it's gone, it's gone.
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  Speaker 2: Once it's gone, it's gone. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: You don't grow more.
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  Speaker 4: And outside of like a really exceedingly small percentage of these,
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  Speaker 4: they don't heal either.
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  Speaker 2: So once it's torn, it's torn.
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  Speaker 4: There's a couple of cases if you tear it in
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  Speaker 4: the perfect location, somebody who's young, they might get some
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  Speaker 4: recovery of that. But typically if we see a meniscus tear,
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  Speaker 4: it's a meniscus tear and it's going to be, and
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  Speaker 4: it doesn't grow back. So you have to decide first
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  Speaker 4: and foremost, is it going to be where you just
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  Speaker 4: go in and shave it down? Or are you going
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  Speaker 4: to go in and try and actually repair the meniscus?
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  Speaker 4: And some of that depends.
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  Speaker 2: There's a lot of variables.
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  Speaker 4: Where in the meniscus is the tear? So the meniscus
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  Speaker 4: is a little cup of cartilage. You have one on
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  Speaker 4: the inside, one on the outside. So you have a
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  Speaker 4: medial and lateral meniscus. And as you get further away
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  Speaker 4: from where it attaches around the periphery and get more
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  Speaker 4: towards the central portion of it, it becomes less and
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  Speaker 4: less vascular.
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  Speaker 2: So it has less blood flow.
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  Speaker 4: And so those are tears when it's really further from
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  Speaker 4: the attachment sites, further from the good circulation. those are
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  Speaker 4: typically ones you're probably going to shave out. You know,
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  Speaker 4: it's not always quite that simple. There's always, there's a
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  Speaker 4: lot of variability. It can be quite complex, but typically
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  Speaker 4: you're not going to try and fix one.
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  Speaker 2: If it's an area that has a bad blood supply for.
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  Speaker 4: The most part, there's some newer procedures and techniques that might,
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  Speaker 4: you know, might allow you to do that on occasion.
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  Speaker 4: And then some of it, look, sometimes you talk to
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  Speaker 4: the individual and, and, you know, look, you got a
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  Speaker 4: guy like, like, you know, Brock Bowers and, you know,
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  Speaker 4: he wants to be on that field. He doesn't want
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  Speaker 4: to be missing time. And, uh, because if you had
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  Speaker 4: a repair, you're out for, for usually a few months,
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  Speaker 4: you know, that's, that's a longer recovery. You know, if
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  Speaker 4: you get that repair, Versus the meniscectomy where you're shaving
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  Speaker 4: it down.
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  Speaker 2: Well, those, those guys, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Like your point, you know, eight days, a few weeks,
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  Speaker 4: as long as there's not a lot else going on.
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  Speaker 4: And that's not, that's not unreasonable.
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  Speaker 3: Now I did after my rookie year, I came back
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  Speaker 3: to Baton Rouge and cause I had always had, I
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  Speaker 3: had like, I think two surgeries before for meniscus at LSU.
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  Speaker 3: So just always something that was chronic for me. And
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  Speaker 3: I came back after my rookie year and I remember
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  Speaker 3: they said, Hey, like whatever you do, don't micro fracture.
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  Speaker 3: And then I went under and they.
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  Speaker 2: Were like, we had to.
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  Speaker 3: It's something we had to do because I remember waking
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  Speaker 3: up and the first thing, he's like, well, we had
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  Speaker 3: to microfracture.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, wait, hold up.
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  Speaker 6: They said, whatever you do, don't do that. Why do
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  Speaker 6: you have to do that? And what is that procedure?
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  Speaker 6: And what does that do?
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  Speaker 4: So microfracture is actually not for the meniscus, but it's
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  Speaker 4: for the cartilage. So if you think about the knee,
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  Speaker 4: you have two bones that come together, the femur and
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  Speaker 4: the tibia. Each of those bones has a layer of
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  Speaker 4: cartilage that's on the bone. And that's kind of what
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  Speaker 4: we call chondral cartilage. So that's cartilage that's basically right
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  Speaker 4: on top of the bone. And then the meniscus is
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  Speaker 4: sort of... So that's almost like the bread of the sandwich.
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  Speaker 4: And then the meniscus is sort of the meat in
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  Speaker 4: the sandwich, so in between. And so if you have
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  Speaker 4: damage to the cartilage that's on the bone, the contral cartilage,
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  Speaker 4: then there are different procedures. That's not a meniscus repair.
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  Speaker 4: And a lot of times the two will happen together.
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  Speaker 4: A lot of times you'll see some... And I think
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  Speaker 4: we had talked about this several weeks back. What are
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  Speaker 4: some of those injuries that are the most difficult to
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  Speaker 4: know what to do with? Cartilage injuries are hard. Cartilage injuries...
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  Speaker 4: You've got microfractures, you've got other procedures where you can
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  Speaker 4: put a little, you know, allograft to bring a little, little, little,
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  Speaker 4: you know, segment of cartilage in and try and get
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  Speaker 4: it to grow. You can do all kinds of things,
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  Speaker 4: but none of the treatments are great. It took me
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  Speaker 4: a while to come back and it's a longer recovery.
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  Speaker 2: So, so why is that? Why is it tough? Is
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  Speaker 2: it less blood flow?
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  Speaker 6: Is that what you're trying to do with micro fracture?
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  Speaker 5: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Micro fracture. You're literally drilling holes into the bone. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: So, so micro fracturing, you're drilling small little holes, trying
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  Speaker 4: to stimulate some bleeding from the bone.
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  Speaker 2: Even some of the bone marrow potentially.
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  Speaker 4: And the hope is that that will stimulate the cartilage
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  Speaker 4: that you have to maybe get a little healthier.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe you'll get a little bit of.
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  Speaker 4: Growth of, of more of a Highland cartilage, which isn't
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  Speaker 4: quite as robust and thick. So it doesn't always work
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  Speaker 4: as well, but you know, it does. And it is
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  Speaker 4: a longer recovery. You know, every, every time you add
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  Speaker 4: a complexity, you're, you're adding time.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. So go farther into the, the Highland cartilage Highland.
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  Speaker 2: So you have chondro cartilage, Highland cartilage.
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  Speaker 4: When you have a perfectly healthy joint, you have this
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  Speaker 4: really thick kind of, you know, cushioning cartilage.
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  Speaker 2: It looks great. It's, it's, Beautiful. Yeah, it's beautiful. The
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  Speaker 2: hyaline cartilage is more almost like scarring.
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  Speaker 4: So it's better than nothing probably, but it's not as
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  Speaker 4: good as what God gave you. And that's a lot
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  Speaker 4: of times what we're stimulating.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 4: With a lot of the treatments that we do, you know,
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  Speaker 4: sometimes that's the best you can get.
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  Speaker 2: Right, right.
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  Speaker 6: And so.
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  Speaker 7: So there was a week one kind of injury, but
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  Speaker 7: a lingering. Miles Garrett, I mean, probably the biggest. trade
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  Speaker 7: in the history of professional sports or one of the
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  Speaker 7: biggest trades in the history of professional sports, Myles Garrett
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  Speaker 7: to the Rams. He is being placed on IR right
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  Speaker 7: now for a handful of weeks and he is going
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  Speaker 7: to have arthroscopic knee surgery. Now the injury isn't real
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  Speaker 7: specific about what is actually hurt in his knee, but
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  Speaker 7: there was fluid, some swelling and some pain. Like what
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  Speaker 7: can you like narrow down what it could be? Arthroscopic
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  Speaker 7: surgery is like will use for these couple of different things.
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  Speaker 2: Can you share that? Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I think there's things, you know, that it definitely isn't,
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  Speaker 4: you know, when you're talking about surgery, if it's a
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  Speaker 4: big ligament injury, you know, an ACL or something like that,
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  Speaker 4: you know, that's going to be a much longer recovery. Um,
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  Speaker 4: if it's a meniscus injury, you know, could he have
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  Speaker 4: had some type of meniscus pathology?
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  Speaker 2: Uh, maybe, maybe his is a little bit more in.
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  Speaker 4: Depth than the one that Brock Bowers had, maybe because
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  Speaker 4: it was more chronic, maybe it's going to take a
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  Speaker 4: little more clean out.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe there's more irritation.
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  Speaker 4: So not all meniscus surgeries when you're doing a meniscectomy are,
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  Speaker 4: you know, that one to two to three week variety.
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  Speaker 4: A lot depends on what else is going on. Could
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  Speaker 4: there be a little bit of cartilage that's just kind
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  Speaker 4: of flapping around, free bodies, other things? So it's probably
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  Speaker 4: something in the meniscus sort of cartilage, you know, kind
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  Speaker 4: of clean-out type realm. But not knowing more, it's hard
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  Speaker 4: to know exactly.
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  Speaker 2: So a scope is arthroscopic surgery, right?
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  Speaker 6: Right.
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  Speaker 7: And I know you kind of talked about the details
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  Speaker 7: of that, but you hear about, like, guys, you know,
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  Speaker 7: getting– something shaved down or something like that. Is it
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  Speaker 7: like literally, I think about like shaving a callus on
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  Speaker 7: your foot down. Is it literally kind of like that?
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  Speaker 2: Pretty similar. Yeah. Pretty similar. Yes. Simple as that. It's it's.
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  Speaker 2: And again, obviously it's, it's going to be a little
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  Speaker 2: more complex for sure.
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  Speaker 4: You have to, but, but for the guys that do
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  Speaker 4: a lot of these surgeries, you know, they understand that
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  Speaker 4: in the anatomy. So for them, it probably isn't much
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  Speaker 4: more complex than shaving down a callus. When you look
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  Speaker 4: at somebody who does this every day, day in, day out,
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  Speaker 4: but you have to be mindful of where you're going.
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  Speaker 4: You don't want to shave too much down because again,
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  Speaker 4: to Jace, one of your shape, the meniscus doesn't come back.
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  Speaker 4: So if we shave too much of your meniscus, now
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  Speaker 4: we're leaving you with less meniscus. And, look, you're designed
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  Speaker 4: to have a meniscus for a reason. So the more
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  Speaker 4: of it we take out, the more problems you may
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  Speaker 4: have down the road. You might feel great right now,
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  Speaker 4: but you have that much less support. So, again, with everything,
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  Speaker 4: there's a little give and take. So it's not quite
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  Speaker 4: as simple. But, yeah, from the procedure itself, it's not
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  Speaker 4: that different.
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  Speaker 2: Catching up with our guy, Dr.
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  Speaker 6: Stephen Etheridge, here in studio on OTB.
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  Speaker 3: Doc, one of the things I want to ask you about,
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  Speaker 3: and I know we don't talk specific injuries, obviously, with LSU,
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  Speaker 3: but injury reports. Those are now new in college football,
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  Speaker 3: and they have to be released. What is the time
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  Speaker 3: they have to be released? And I guess maybe what
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  Speaker 3: are some of the guidelines that have to be followed?
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  Speaker 3: Is it a guy didn't practice, or if a guy
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  Speaker 3: has anything, if he comes into the training room for
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  Speaker 3: any kind of treatment, he has to be put on there?
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  Speaker 6: Because I believe that's more of the NFL model.
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  Speaker 3: If you're getting treatment on something, they have to disclose it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and so the injury reports go through the athletic trainer,
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  Speaker 4: so I might be a little bit inaccurate, full disclosure,
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  Speaker 4: because this is new for us. We help with it,
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  Speaker 4: but they are the ones that present it.
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  Speaker 2: Typically, it is, yes, what.
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  Speaker 4: Is the likelihood they're going to play? That's really a
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  Speaker 4: guy who's missing practice, a guy who might not play.
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  Speaker 4: right and but you do have to put them on
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  Speaker 4: there there is a requirement you know it does follow
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  Speaker 4: a similar model to the nfl where you know it's
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  Speaker 4: probable questionable doubtful and out right so i mean if
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  Speaker 4: a guy's got you know i think i think he's
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  Speaker 4: got you know less than a 20 chance or something
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  Speaker 4: like that i'm missing um then he's probably probable if
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  Speaker 4: it's if it's 50 he's doubtful uh or greater than
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  Speaker 4: 50 it's doubtful so There's some variables there. We do
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  Speaker 4: have to get them in early in the week. I
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  Speaker 4: believe the last one comes in the day of, but
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  Speaker 4: you have to update it a couple times throughout the week.
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  Speaker 4: It's definitely not as regimented and fine-tuned as the NFL model,
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  Speaker 4: but they want to know. They want that information. If
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  Speaker 4: they find out that we had a guy that wasn't
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  Speaker 4: practicing all week, we'll get in trouble. You know, we
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  Speaker 4: can get some fines for that or penalties for that.
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  Speaker 2: Or maybe kick you out of the SEC. Or kicks
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  Speaker 2: out of the SEC.
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  Speaker 6: I've heard that's a thing. Apparently.
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  Speaker 2: I'd love to threaten that.
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  Speaker 4: So, yeah, that has changed a lot of the complexity.
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  Speaker 4: To be honest, we're still kind of learning this. This
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  Speaker 4: is only a few years in. And so, like I said,
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  Speaker 4: I don't want to butcher it too much, but it
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  Speaker 4: is a new thing. And I know the trainers, because
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  Speaker 4: they've already got enough on their plates, too. You know,
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  Speaker 4: they're working really hard just to do their jobs, and
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  Speaker 4: then you give them another task. So we're trying to
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  Speaker 4: figure out how to make that work for everybody.
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  Speaker 7: Doc, there's a really good question in the chat that
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  Speaker 7: I'm really interested in because I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: The rules here.
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  Speaker 7: Now, I know you all do a lot with injections,
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  Speaker 7: the stem cells, the PRP.
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  Speaker 2: What kind of injections?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, they call them biologics, regenerative medicine. There's a few
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  Speaker 4: different terminologies.
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  Speaker 7: So that's all meant to put good cells back into you,
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  Speaker 7: stimulate cellular growth. But the question I heard are there's–
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  Speaker 7: Are peptides legal for the college level for the athletes
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  Speaker 7: to take to stimulate healing and help the healing process?
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  Speaker 4: So peptides are becoming a big topic. They're becoming very
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  Speaker 4: widely used. And there are a lot of organizations that
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  Speaker 4: are starting to ban them. They are banned from, I
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  Speaker 4: believe the NFL has officially banned them. In collegiate sports,
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  Speaker 4: there are certain peptides that are banned and In a
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  Speaker 4: lot of professional leagues, they are banned. And if they
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  Speaker 4: aren't banned, they're probably heading that direction. So we have
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  Speaker 4: to be really careful with the recommendations we make. Now,
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  Speaker 4: the testing for them is also not great. This is
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  Speaker 4: not me condoning Tago taking because of this because there
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  Speaker 4: are some ways they can test for some of them.
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  Speaker 4: But so right now, it's not like when we get
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  Speaker 4: the NCAA, they'll say, hey, we got these guys random
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  Speaker 4: drug tests. Peptides are not something they're typically testing for.
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  Speaker 4: I think they'd have to have a motivation to do
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  Speaker 4: so because it is not a standard test.
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  Speaker 2: So it's still sort of an unknown.
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  Speaker 4: I typically tell my guys you probably should stay away
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  Speaker 4: from them, not because I think they're dangerous, not because
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  Speaker 4: I think they don't work, but the rules are not
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  Speaker 4: 100% clear.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, just the governing body of that sport because I
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  Speaker 7: think they're, usually if they are banned or something, it's
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  Speaker 7: because they work.
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  Speaker 2: Right, number one.
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  Speaker 4: Typically, and that's what I tell people, at the very minimum,
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  Speaker 4: you know, there's a peptides, there's a big debate out there.
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  Speaker 2: At the very minimum, there are.
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  Speaker 4: People out there who believe they give a benefit Or
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  Speaker 4: else they wouldn't be on that list. So there are
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  Speaker 4: people in high positions whose job it is to know
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  Speaker 4: what's out there who are either wrong in that assumption
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  Speaker 4: or truly believe that they are. And look, I do
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  Speaker 4: think there's something to the peptide market. There's too many
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  Speaker 4: people that have had good success with it. But to
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  Speaker 4: be fair, there's a lot we still don't know. So
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  Speaker 4: it's a little bit gray. But look, I tell patients
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  Speaker 4: all the time, it's kind of a, if I had
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  Speaker 4: an injury, I'd probably take them. But at the same time,
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  Speaker 4: I don't really tell my patients to do so because
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  Speaker 4: we just don't know all the details yet.
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  Speaker 2: All right. There he is, Dr. Steven Etheridge.
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  Speaker 3: Good enough to join us every single Wednesday morning at
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  Speaker 3: 8 a.m. Doc, we appreciate the time. Thanks for coming in.
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  Speaker 2: Always a pleasure. Real quick, forgot.
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  Speaker 6: You looking forward to the trip this week?
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  Speaker 4: I'm looking forward to it. I might have to get
• 13:35
  Speaker 4: fitted for some Kevlar and other stuff. I'm a little
• 13:36
  Speaker 4: nervous for how the reception is going to be when
• 13:39
  Speaker 4: we get there.
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  Speaker 2: I'm probably trying to avoid staying too close to coach.
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  Speaker 4: Or projectiles that might be flying through the air. I
• 13:45
  Speaker 4: would not be shocked to see a few of those.
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  Speaker 6: I'm actually really excited. I'm looking forward to it.
• 13:49
  Speaker 7: That does bring up a good question, and I know
• 13:51
  Speaker 7: you're not at all the meetings and everything throughout the week.
• 13:53
  Speaker 7: You only have certain days and hours, but I wonder
• 13:56
  Speaker 7: if there's been extra communication to the team about, I
• 14:01
  Speaker 7: don't know, security or just extra protocols for this game
• 14:06
  Speaker 7: that they might not get for other games.
• 14:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there has been. I've kind of been.
• 14:12
  Speaker 2: I think they've been talking to him a little bit.
• 14:14
  Speaker 2: I think everybody's just aware. They should.
• 14:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, this is going to be a different game. We
• 14:18
  Speaker 4: played at Alabama in 2019 when.
• 14:21
  Speaker 2: Trump was there.
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  Speaker 4: We all talked about it beforehand that there's going to
• 14:24
  Speaker 4: be a lot more security coming in.
• 14:25
  Speaker 2: Because there was.
• 14:26
  Speaker 4: It was more getting in the stadium. We had secret
• 14:28
  Speaker 4: service at the hotel checking our bags. Once we got
• 14:30
  Speaker 4: on the bus, we could not get off the bus
• 14:32
  Speaker 4: or go get our bag. Or if we did, we
• 14:33
  Speaker 4: had to go back through the security line. So it
• 14:34
  Speaker 4: was a different protocol than what we normally went through.
• 14:36
  Speaker 4: I don't think it would be quite that extreme. But
• 14:39
  Speaker 4: we're anticipating a little bit more security at this one.
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: It's going to be something. Actually, the National Guard.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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• 17:13
  Speaker 3: OTB here live from the Raising Cane Studio. Every Wednesday
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  Speaker 6: I call it performance hoodie. Yeah, but you don't perform
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  Speaker 6: very often, so.
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  Speaker 2: I don't like that.
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  Speaker 6: Sorry.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you set me up.
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• 17:52
  Speaker 3: On that note, to pivot quickly to the New Orleans Saints,
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: they got another tough one there, Bill.
• 18:00
  Speaker 6: They got to go to Baltimore, take on the Ravens.
• 18:03
  Speaker 6: And we talked about this.
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  Speaker 3: Whenever the schedule was released, you knew it was going
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: to be a tough first two games, certainly for the
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: New Orleans Saints. And, again, I had no issue with
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: them going for two. There's so many people that caught
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: into the NFL show yesterday that were like, yeah, but
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: if you look at the history, if you have a
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: tie– In your division rankings, and it oftentimes ends up
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: where you make the postseason because that time they cited
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: Green Bay a year ago and some other teams for sure.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: But I'm like, yeah, loser mentality.
• 18:35
  Speaker 11: First week of the season. It also doesn't matter. Everybody
• 18:38
  Speaker 11: in your division lost this weekend.
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: Every team. Right.
• 18:42
  Speaker 6: And that was another one of their points. They're like,
• 18:44
  Speaker 6: you'd be up in the division. Okay. You were not
• 18:47
  Speaker 6: guaranteed to tie that game.
• 18:49
  Speaker 9: Right.
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: 90% chance they win.
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: There's a minute and a half left with a great kicker,
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: and they just went through you like a hot knife
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: through butter. You weren't stopping them. They weren't going to
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: stop you either.
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  Speaker 2: Could you imagine if you go for the tie, and
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: you lose? Then you lose.
• 19:04
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: No. I got no issue. I don't think so. No issue, but.
• 19:08
  Speaker 7: I haven't really heard anybody that has an issue with it.
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: I know the national people probably have talked about maybe.
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: I don't think anybody around here. No, I don't think
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: so either. You should.
• 19:18
  Speaker 11: Because again, like, I think everybody losing in your division
• 19:22
  Speaker 11: means you should go for it because at worst, you're
• 19:25
  Speaker 11: tied in your division. At best, you're a game up
• 19:27
  Speaker 11: on everybody already.
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  Speaker 2: You're fine.
• 19:29
  Speaker 7: If Kellen Moore kicks it and they go down the
• 19:32
  Speaker 7: field and kick a 60-yarder to win it.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: Which Jake Bates can do. Kellen Moore is getting drug
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: this week. Here for sure. My guy, he is getting
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: absolute like, hmm, did the right thing. But now you've
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: got to go to Baltimore. Speed of regulation.
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: Record be damned. 0-1, 1-0, 0-0-1. It's still the Baltimore Ravens.
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson looked really good. I don't know how good
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: the Colts are defensively. I think they've got some issues
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: for sure. But Baltimore went on the road, and that
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: game wasn't really close. So you've got some challenges. And
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: you got some challenges in Lamar Jackson, but you've really
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: got some challenges in Derrick Henry.
• 20:18
  Speaker 11: You struggled with Gibbs this week, and you're rewarded now
• 20:21
  Speaker 11: with Derrick Henry.
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  Speaker 6: They're different running backs. I get that.
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: But Derrick Henry last week just shows you that he
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: doesn't age. And I don't know if y'all know his
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: regimen in the offseason. Everything he does is to get
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: ready for the season, the way he eats, the way
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: he trains, the way he sleeps. He broke it down
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: for us in August. It is, Matt, it is as
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: tight to, like, his schedule. Like, it's as tight to
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: perfect sleep, perfect balance in meals, workout times, recovery. Like,
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: you know, a lot of times we'll have stuff like that.
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: You know, 80% follow it. Or 85% if we're doing
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: really well. He is, like, 99.99999% following his regimen.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: And you see it. That's why, like, he's over 30.
• 21:02
  Speaker 8: No, you don't.
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  Speaker 3: He's over 30, and he can still be who he
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: is and still thrive, when most of the time, 30
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: is a graveyard for running backs.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, he's got to be doing that.
• 21:19
  Speaker 7: I mean, that size, too, for what he's able to do,
• 21:24
  Speaker 7: it makes it even more impressive. For whatever reason, you
• 21:27
  Speaker 7: think of people that make it a long time like
• 21:30
  Speaker 7: that with their body, maybe a little bit shorter, maybe
• 21:32
  Speaker 7: a little bit more compact, and he is the absolute
• 21:35
  Speaker 7: opposite of that. So what he's able to do, and,
• 21:38
  Speaker 7: you know, I'll get him in fantasy too.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: It helped.
• 21:43
  Speaker 6: Not like Kenneth Walker helped you.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: Jeez, I'm sorry about it. I told you. Kenneth Walker's
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: going to go off.
• 21:52
  Speaker 7: But what Derrick Henry does, he has these games every
• 21:56
  Speaker 7: single season, and he's going to have a handful of
• 21:58
  Speaker 7: games where he's going to score three touchdowns.
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  Speaker 2: It's just his game, right?
• 22:02
  Speaker 7: And then all of a sudden he's going to have
• 22:03
  Speaker 7: these games where, they got a good scheme where they
• 22:05
  Speaker 7: play some really good linebackers or get like, they just,
• 22:08
  Speaker 7: that it's not, it's going to have to be a
• 22:10
  Speaker 7: little bit more Lamar Jackson. And, uh, but the combination
• 22:14
  Speaker 7: of Lamar Jackson, Derek Henry is a flowers plan.
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: Uh, like it's, it's been impressive.
• 22:20
  Speaker 7: And Lamar Jackson, you were, he's go, he's, it seems
• 22:24
  Speaker 7: like Vegas knew what was going to happen.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: What they went seven games last year. And that wouldn't,
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: wouldn't that way.
• 22:28
  Speaker 11: And then they were basically favored in like every game,
• 22:31
  Speaker 11: but like two this year.
• 22:32
  Speaker 7: Yeah, they had, I think, for a while, the highest
• 22:38
  Speaker 7: over-under season win total. I think it was like at 12.5
• 22:41
  Speaker 7: until the Rams traded for Miles Garrett.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: Then they became the favorite. Last in their division, by
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: the way.
• 22:47
  Speaker 7: Yeah, seven wins to the Vegas betting highest winning over-under
• 22:54
  Speaker 7: season win total until the Rams traded for Miles. So
• 22:58
  Speaker 7: they know something. They knew something was going to happen.
• 23:02
  Speaker 7: Lamar goes 17-25, 324 yards and a touchdown. That's seven
• 23:06
  Speaker 7: rushing attempts, 40 yards and a touchdown. And then you
• 23:09
  Speaker 7: put that on top of what Derrick Henry did.
• 23:11
  Speaker 6: And what Zay Flowers did in the first half before
• 23:13
  Speaker 6: he went out with a hammy.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, is he out? Questionable. Questionable. He did pretty good.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: He is questionable for the game. He's pretty dangerous.
• 23:21
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 23:21
  Speaker 7: So you just got to hope that Lamar has one
• 23:23
  Speaker 7: of those games where Lamar looks bad. And he has
• 23:26
  Speaker 7: those games. Contain Derrick Henry. And then Tyler Shuck threw
• 23:33
  Speaker 7: for 400 yards in both halves this time.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: That would be an NFL record.
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: I don't worry about the Saints being able to move
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: the football through the air in this game, but I
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: do worry about if you can't stop Derrick Henry, how
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: many possessions are you truly going to get? That's the
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: thing that you worry about when you face a team
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: like this where The running back can keep the clock going,
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: and they can keep possession, and they can win the
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: clock in the time of possession battle.
• 24:00
  Speaker 6: But also, like, on third and seven, when you've.
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: Got it bottled up, and then here goes Lamar around
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: the corner for nine, that breaks your back and pisses you.
• 24:09
  Speaker 7: Off more than anything. But you do, like, they aren't superheroes. Like,
• 24:14
  Speaker 7: they're really good. But, again, the same team lost seven
• 24:17
  Speaker 7: games last year, right? So there's ways to– There's ways
• 24:22
  Speaker 7: to take advantage of it. If I'm the saints this year,
• 24:24
  Speaker 7: I'm working a punch drill because Derek Henry, if there's
• 24:27
  Speaker 7: one thing he can fumble the ball.
• 24:28
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 24:28
  Speaker 7: Lamar Jackson runs high. He runs high. Lamar Jackson can
• 24:32
  Speaker 7: fumble the ball. He can make, he can make bad
• 24:35
  Speaker 7: decisions as a passer can not say he always does.
• 24:38
  Speaker 7: He's one of the top quarterbacks in the league and
• 24:40
  Speaker 7: has been for a long time. He's two time MVP
• 24:42
  Speaker 7: for a reason. He's 29 still.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: Oh my God.
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: Jeez.
• 24:47
  Speaker 7: He's been in the league for three decades and he's 29. Um, So, yes,
• 24:52
  Speaker 7: I'm working on the punch drill, and I'm not shocked
• 24:58
  Speaker 7: if I watch the Ravens and you see a Derrick Henry.
• 25:00
  Speaker 7: You just have to take advantage of him. You have
• 25:01
  Speaker 7: to be the one that falls on the ball. Because
• 25:03
  Speaker 7: if they give you just like a sliver of hope,
• 25:06
  Speaker 7: you've got to take advantage of it and take advantage
• 25:08
  Speaker 7: of any mistake. Because they didn't make a lot of
• 25:11
  Speaker 7: mistakes in week one. They are a better team than you,
• 25:14
  Speaker 7: but that doesn't mean that they're going to win every time.
• 25:16
  Speaker 7: So you just have to take advantage of any mistake
• 25:19
  Speaker 7: they make.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: I'm calling it now.
• 25:21
  Speaker 6: Caden Ellis, forced fumble.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: Book it.
• 25:25
  Speaker 6: On Derek?
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: No, just anybody.
• 25:28
  Speaker 6: Calling it right now. Caden Ellis, forced fumble.
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 25:31
  Speaker 6: Can we get a prop on that? Yep.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: Those odds would be pretty good.
• 25:35
  Speaker 11: This is the same guy that hit on Caden's second
• 25:39
  Speaker 11: touchdown score.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: That's right.
• 25:40
  Speaker 11: A few years ago, so I'm going to back Jake
• 25:43
  Speaker 11: on this one.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: You with me?
• 25:45
  Speaker 9: I'm in.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: Kool-Aid. With a little. A peanut punch? A little peanut punch.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: Pat Tillman?
• 25:54
  Speaker 7: He's going to come in and hammer fist the ball.
• 26:01
  Speaker 7: Derrick Henry won't see it coming. He's going to have
• 26:03
  Speaker 7: the worst game of his career this week. He's going
• 26:07
  Speaker 7: to be reading the press clip and thinking about how
• 26:09
  Speaker 7: good he is. He hadn't been there before. He's not
• 26:14
  Speaker 7: experienced enough.
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: Saints fans, this is going to be an uphill battle.
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: There's no doubt about it. Baltimore's a good team. But
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: if you play like you did in the second half,
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: against this team, I was just about to say, it
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: doesn't matter who you're playing, you're good. Doesn't matter who
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: you're playing. If you play like you did in the
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: second half, you'll be in every game you play this year.
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: You can't get behind the eight ball like you did
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: in the first half.
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: That's the issue.
• 26:43
  Speaker 6: A good team like Detroit, and they are going to
• 26:44
  Speaker 6: be a good team.
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: You can't spot them three touchdowns. That can't happen.
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: So you clean that up, and the Saints are going
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: to be able to compete with the Ravens, the Raiders,
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: the Falcons, the Vikings, the Giants, all these teams on
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: their schedule. And if you find a way to win
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: this game, just find a way. You've got the Raiders
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: and Falcons at home. Now, I do think Minnesota is
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: going to be actually a pretty good team. Then you
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: go on the road to the Giants. Those are winnable games.
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: I know the Giants look good against the Cowboys. I
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: think that had a lot to do with how bad
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: the Cowboys looked as well. If you can find your
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: way to go to Paris against the Steelers and only
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: have two losses, potentially, now I don't know where they come,
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: but if you only have two losses and you're heading
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: to that game, I think you have done exactly what
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: you need to do on your schedule. Because remember, we
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: talked about the Saints in the back end of their
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: schedule and what it looks like.
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: The last five weeks of the.
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: Season at Carolina, at Tampa Bay, the Cardinals at home,
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: at Atlanta, Tampa Bay at home. Four out of your
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: five games are NFC South games. So, if you just
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: hold the water, if you just don't fall off a cliff,
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: you're going to have a chance at the end of
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: the season. You'll control your own destiny to make it
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: to the postseason.
• 28:08
  Speaker 7: They're not going to fall off unless it's because of injuries.
• 28:11
  Speaker 7: They're good enough to sustain, and they're good enough to
• 28:14
  Speaker 7: win games. They're dangerous enough. They They have a heavy
• 28:17
  Speaker 7: enough punch on offense to be able to win plenty
• 28:20
  Speaker 7: of games, bar an injury. So they just got to
• 28:24
  Speaker 7: stay healthy, and then they'll be fine this year.
• 28:31
  Speaker 6: Anybody want to predict right now? Do they get it
• 28:34
  Speaker 6: done against Baltimore?
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: I'll say no. Oh, yeah. They're going to win. Alondra?
• 28:41
  Speaker 10: Is Zay Flowers going to be out?
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: It's questionable. If he's out, look out.
• 28:46
  Speaker 10: If he's out.
• 28:47
  Speaker 6: Right now, seven and a half is the line.
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: I was watching yesterday. He's trending towards not playing. The
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: Cardinals beat the Chargers. It doesn't mean he will. The
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: Cardinals beat the Chargers and beat them up. Anything can happen.
• 29:02
  Speaker 6: The Cardinals won by 12, and they were nine and
• 29:03
  Speaker 6: a half point dogs.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: So, yeah. Imagine if you had to alternate line that.
• 29:08
  Speaker 7: Chuck just threw for 400 plus yards and played terrible
• 29:13
  Speaker 7: in the first half.
• 29:13
  Speaker 10: Give me the Saints. Who dat?
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: Who dat? Let's go.
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: Again, like you did in the second half, you can
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: beat anybody in the National Football League. All right, we
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: will step away. More OTB when we come back here
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  Speaker 9: OTB here live from the Raising Cane Studio. Alondra, we
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  Speaker 9: have some news that, well, typically I'd be like, what
• 31:19
  Speaker 9: are you?
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  Speaker 3: What?
• 31:20
  Speaker 7: But this is like 20, this is 2026.
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  Speaker 6: College football at its peak.
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 31:39
  Speaker 5: As the SEC world turns, we're just going to like
• 31:42
  Speaker 5: telenovela it up. So Princewell, Umami, Ellen, and if you
• 31:47
  Speaker 5: remember back in the summer, Devin Harper were both Going
• 31:52
  Speaker 5: to Devin, right? I always mix him and Dylan Harper.
• 31:54
  Speaker 5: I think about the Spurs as Devin.
• 31:55
  Speaker 10: Devin Harper.
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  Speaker 6: Look, if you say it wrong, I know why. Everybody
• 31:59
  Speaker 6: knows why.
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  Speaker 2: It's too close.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 32:00
  Speaker 5: So Prince Will and Mommy Ellen and Devin Harper were
• 32:04
  Speaker 5: being sued by Ole Miss because they had signed a
• 32:08
  Speaker 5: contract to stay there and then turned around and left
• 32:11
  Speaker 5: and came to LSU. So being sued yesterday in the
• 32:16
  Speaker 5: LSU football ops parking lot over on Skip Burtman Drive.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 10: Prince Umami Ellen was served court papers.
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: Oh, stop it.
• 32:25
  Speaker 10: Outside.
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  Speaker 6: So the papers were served by them in the LSU
• 32:34
  Speaker 6: parking lot.
• 32:34
  Speaker 10: Correct.
• 32:35
  Speaker 6: The week of the LSU Ole Miss game.
• 32:38
  Speaker 10: Correct.
• 32:39
  Speaker 5: The article says, this is from the article, the timing
• 32:43
  Speaker 5: of the actual gesture certainly stands out.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: You don't say. Interesting.
• 32:52
  Speaker 10: So that's what's going on. Umami Ellen, I guess maybe
• 32:56
  Speaker 10: they couldn't find Harper.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 32:59
  Speaker 6: He said, y'all ain't getting me.
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: He saw Prince Will outside.
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: And was like, hmm. Harper's from Shreveport. He's from the
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: Ratchet City. He's about this life.
• 33:10
  Speaker 5: He saw Prince Will being served some papers, and he's
• 33:13
  Speaker 5: just like the Simpsons meme where he.
• 33:15
  Speaker 6: Backed into the bush. Hey, us from Shreveport, we know
• 33:18
  Speaker 6: how to work the system. We got it.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: He slipped out the back.
• 33:21
  Speaker 10: You know how to escape a warrant.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: That's on Prince.
• 33:23
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: Which, honestly.
• 33:25
  Speaker 10: Yeah, why were you out in the parking lot?
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: They probably had to wait for our guy.
• 33:29
  Speaker 11: We had Prince Will and Player interviews yesterday, so he
• 33:32
  Speaker 11: came out late.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: So they had to wait for him. It's y'all's fault.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: It is y'all's fault. Yeah. Y'all told everybody where he was. Yeah.
• 33:40
  Speaker 11: LSU was live streaming it, and Ole Miss was like,
• 33:43
  Speaker 11: we know he's in the building.
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: Got him. He's right there.
• 33:45
  Speaker 7: We've all seen the movies and the TV shows where
• 33:48
  Speaker 7: people have to dress up and disguise and distract people
• 33:52
  Speaker 7: in order to serve them court papers.
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: I wonder what it was yesterday. Like a fan? Like, hey, Prince,
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: can I get a big fan? Can I get your autograph? Yeah,
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: I wonder how they did that. Thank you, you've been served.
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: I don't know if that's how it works in the
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: real world. I feel like legally, just go get a baby.
• 34:05
  Speaker 7: I just see it on movies. See it on movies
• 34:07
  Speaker 7: and TV shows. I wonder if that's how it played
• 34:08
  Speaker 7: out yesterday.
• 34:09
  Speaker 10: Do you think they say, you've been served?
• 34:11
  Speaker 6: You've been served. Or like the movie, You Got Served.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 34:18
  Speaker 6: Do a little dance when you do it.
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 34:21
  Speaker 5: Both players' agreements with the Rebels included penalties for breaking
• 34:24
  Speaker 5: the contract within a 90-day window. So Harper and Umami
• 34:29
  Speaker 5: Yellen on 16th and 22nd respectively.
• 34:32
  Speaker 9: Oh, wait.
• 34:32
  Speaker 10: They requested payment from them. They never got it. Remember
• 34:36
  Speaker 10: that was the thing? People were like, oh, LSU's not
• 34:38
  Speaker 10: going to pay for them to.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: Right. This is his court appearance on the 19th? It'd
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: be convenient. We're actually going to have court on a Saturday. Yeah,
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: we're all coming in. We're all coming in.
• 34:51
  Speaker 5: Sources previously told ESPN that the lawsuit is more about
• 34:54
  Speaker 5: Ole Miss forcing LSU to account for the $ 900, 000 on
• 34:58
  Speaker 5: their revenue sharing cap rather than recouping the money from
• 35:01
  Speaker 5: its former players.
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you what. Why would Ole Miss be mad
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: at LSU? Did something happen between the two?
• 35:07
  Speaker 7: LSU's just be like, let's just take this contract. We'll
• 35:10
  Speaker 7: just go double or nothing. Saturday night.
• 35:13
  Speaker 10: Wait, this comment in the chat made me laugh.
• 35:15
  Speaker 5: Alvo said, it was a judge crying while serving the
• 35:17
  Speaker 5: paper saying, how could you?
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: Yes. What did we say at the break? How could
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: they go to the parking lot and serve these kids?
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: These kids.
• 35:26
  Speaker 10: You're going to go and make.
• 35:27
  Speaker 6: I didn't know what they were signing.
• 35:29
  Speaker 8: Coerce.
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, these are children.
• 35:30
  Speaker 5: Coerce this child into going to court.
• 35:34
  Speaker 10: Disgusting.
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: He was just a kid. I bet he didn't even
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: have a legal right to sign that contract. He's just
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: a child. Basically a baby.
• 35:41
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: Wow. Can't sign anything.
• 35:44
  Speaker 10: Didn't know Ole Miss didn't respect children, but here we are.
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: Ole Miss hates children. Didn't know that. Now we do.
• 35:52
  Speaker 6: That's a deep cut if you weren't listening from earlier,
• 35:54
  Speaker 6: by the way.
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. That's what we call a callback. I mean,
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: good God. Like, let's just play this game. Let's just
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: get it over.
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: Just go there, win the game, get back on the plane,
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: and then get about our season.
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: Then go to the next game.
• 36:11
  Speaker 6: Yeah, against Texas A & M, a really good football team.
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: Oof.
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: I think I know how it's going to play out. Games,
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: we all know. Again, the Cardinals beat the Chargers.
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: It's football. We get that.
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: But if Ole Miss doesn't win this game, I wonder
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: what that looks like for them over the next couple
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: of weeks. Because I feel like they have put so
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: much into this one singular game. And I'm not going
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: to sit up here and act like LSU doesn't care
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: about this game. They probably care more about this Ole
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: Miss game than they've cared about Ole Miss in a
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: very long time.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: When we played Ole Miss when we were in school,
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: it was a long time ago.
• 36:56
  Speaker 6: I get that. It was two decades ago. We didn't
• 36:58
  Speaker 6: care about Ole Miss. The only thing I cared about
• 37:02
  Speaker 6: really was where's Patrick Willis.
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: That was about it. All right?
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: There's been a long time where this, like it just,
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: it didn't, It didn't move the needle. It moves the
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: needle for LSU now more than maybe it ever has, right?
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: Maybe you go back to, like, Billy Cannon days.
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: I wasn't alive.
• 37:16
  Speaker 6: I don't know that.
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: But I get that.
• 37:18
  Speaker 6: I'm not saying it doesn't mean anything to LSU.
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: But Ole Miss is pushing everything they have into this game,
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: it feels like. And if they don't find a way
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: to win this game, what that looks like for the
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: next couple of weeks after that, that could be– It'd
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: be a.
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: Slippery slope for them. They're finally relevant, right?
• 37:37
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: They're finally relevant.
• 37:40
  Speaker 7: And they are the ones that tell you that they're
• 37:43
  Speaker 7: finally relevant for the first time. They put playoff appearance
• 37:47
  Speaker 7: on their stadium. They tattooed it.
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: On their stadium.
• 37:49
  Speaker 7: They put SEC West champions from 20 years ago. They
• 37:54
  Speaker 7: know that they're not relevant, and now they are. And
• 37:58
  Speaker 7: they were hurt.
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: I get it.
• 38:00
  Speaker 7: I understand the feelings, and they rightfully feel upset. LSU
• 38:04
  Speaker 7: would feel upset if the same thing happened to them
• 38:06
  Speaker 7: and their coach.
• 38:07
  Speaker 10: I don't know if I'd take it as far as
• 38:08
  Speaker 10: they're taking it.
• 38:10
  Speaker 6: Coach Saban, I know he didn't directly, but it was
• 38:12
  Speaker 6: not that likely.
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: If Saban would have directly gone to Alabama, 100%.
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: It wouldn't be like this. It would not be to
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: this extent. It just would not be. At least for me,
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: from my perspective.
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: I think you're lying to yourself.
• 38:23
  Speaker 6: You think so?
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't. I mean, he was there two years later.
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: We played against him. Yeah, but.
• 38:30
  Speaker 6: A short stop. A very short stop in the NFL.
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: Two seasons.
• 38:33
  Speaker 7: If Lane had gone to the Arizona Cardinals for two
• 38:36
  Speaker 7: years and then come to LSU two years from now,
• 38:38
  Speaker 7: they would not feel this way.
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: Matt, he hadn't been at Tennessee since Moby Dick was
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: a minnow and they were throwing golf balls and mustard
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: at him.
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: He was only there a year.
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: He has some uniqueness to the level in which people
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: don't like him right now.
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: I get that. And he hadn't been at Tennessee in
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: a long time. I'm just talking about the butt-heartedness.
• 38:57
  Speaker 6: I mean, look. I'm not telling you how to feel.
• 39:00
  Speaker 6: I'm just telling you how I think I would have felt.
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: I mean, it probably would have been more to your
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: point because you feel like, why would you leave here
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: to go there?
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: I get that.
• 39:10
  Speaker 11: That's the part that I don't get. So many people
• 39:12
  Speaker 11: are like, why would you leave Ole Miss? Guys, Alabama
• 39:15
  Speaker 11: OC to Florida Atlantic to Ole Miss to LSU. It
• 39:18
  Speaker 11: seems like a logical stepping stone jobs at this point. Like,
• 39:21
  Speaker 11: who out there would not leave Ole Miss and take
• 39:24
  Speaker 11: the LSU job?
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: If you say you're if you say no you're.
• 39:26
  Speaker 7: Lying again they put college playoff appearance on their stadium
• 39:30
  Speaker 7: and not just a banner we won't even put a
• 39:33
  Speaker 7: Heisman winner up there can't either one of them neither
• 39:39
  Speaker 7: one we won't even put a Heisman winner on the
• 39:41
  Speaker 7: stadium they put playoff.
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: Appearance appearance That's actually a really good point. Yeah, that
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: is right there. That's a step up.
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: They would have already had both Heisman winners, number retired,
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: up in the stadium.
• 39:52
  Speaker 7: They would have had a jersey, maybe on the side. No,
• 39:55
  Speaker 7: they would have had a statue 30 foot tall.
• 39:58
  Speaker 10: They're going to retire Trinidad's number next year.
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: Maybe. He might be playing for them now. He's not
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: on the team. He might be.
• 40:07
  Speaker 10: That's fair.
• 40:07
  Speaker 7: No one's going to wear that jersey number next year
• 40:09
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• 40:14
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• 40:26
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  Speaker 10: I like this comment, too, and this idea.
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  Speaker 5: Do we get the Prince Will money sign celebration after
• 42:47
  Speaker 5: the first sack?
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  Speaker 6: I would love that.
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  Speaker 10: That or like this.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Which one do we want?
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  Speaker 6: Either or.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 10: I like this better.
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  Speaker 6: Make it rain.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, me too.
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  Speaker 10: I like the make it rain better. Like if he
• 42:59
  Speaker 10: gets a stack, stands up, makes it rain.
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  Speaker 6: Like Kenny Powers in Eastbound and Down.
• 43:03
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Dollar bills. I want him to do it slow, though.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah. Just like Kenny Powers.
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: You know what celebration I really like, and I don't
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: see it very often?
• 43:13
  Speaker 5: What?
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: Any type of bow. A bow is good. Just like
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: a bow? Or like sometimes they do like the karate bow.
• 43:21
  Speaker 10: I do like that.
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: I don't see it very often. I wonder how St.
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: Brown does that one. The bows are really good, though.
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: They don't show themselves very often, but when they do.
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: You know what I hate? Every DB celebration. Oh, my God.
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: They're awful. Seatbelts.
• 43:36
  Speaker 11: It's like, bud, you got burned by 10 yards. You
• 43:38
  Speaker 11: happened to drop the ball. The quarterback overthrows the ball.
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: He's square. Thumbs down. Not over here.
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: There was a Louisiana Tech defender that did the seatbelt
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: when they were down by four touchdowns.
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: I'm like, DBs? I got my guy.
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: And it's not Louisiana Tech's fault. LSU probably does it too.
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: Everybody does it. DBs, doesn't matter what the score is,
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: how many times they got burned, if they win a rep,
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: and I'm air quoting win a rep, Seat belt's coming out.
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: No doubt.
• 44:09
  Speaker 5: Mm-hmm.
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: DBs.
• 44:14
  Speaker 10: I do like when they do the arrow. I like
• 44:16
  Speaker 10: the arrow.
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: DBs do it?
• 44:19
  Speaker 7: Is there something that, is there a way to mime
• 44:25
  Speaker 7: getting served papers? That would be in a way like, hello,
• 44:28
  Speaker 7: here you go, sir. How do you do that?
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: That should be a celebration. You know how you lick
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: your finger and you go through it?
• 44:34
  Speaker 6: Mm-mm-mm-mm.
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: And serve them. That's what it is.
• 44:38
  Speaker 10: What if he just says, you've been served.
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: Because you've been served.
• 44:42
  Speaker 10: The little hop you did with him.
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: That'd be so great. If he could figure out how
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: to celebrate getting served papers.
• 44:54
  Speaker 6: I think I'd do it.
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: Maybe he runs over to the sideline.
• 44:56
  Speaker 6: You lick your finger, you sort through papers, and then
• 44:59
  Speaker 6: you hand them over.
• 45:00
  Speaker 10: Maybe put fake glasses on.
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: And then you go, the DB thing. Double thumbs down.
• 45:07
  Speaker 11: That'll show. The double thumbs down is going to put
• 45:10
  Speaker 11: them over the top.
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: It means business. Just don't put your fist up after
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: one's third down. Don't do that. Or when they get
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: the first down.
• 45:17
  Speaker 6: Or when you get the turnover on downs. It's actually
• 45:20
  Speaker 6: first down your way.
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: It's your ball.
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: I tell you what, though. I don't mind celebrating. I
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: actually kind of enjoy some of it.
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: I do love the celebration.
• 45:29
  Speaker 10: I love the celebration.
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: But I actually do love the discipline that it takes
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: in the offense this year.
• 45:33
  Speaker 6: Where they're like, you don't celebrate a first down. You
• 45:36
  Speaker 6: celebrate when you get into the end zone. That's the
• 45:39
  Speaker 6: rules on this team.
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: You don't have time. Get the ball. Get it to
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: the official. I don't want to see the first down stuff.
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: And then when you score, you can celebrate, and hell,
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: you can dunk a basketball when you get to the sideline.
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: I like it.
• 45:51
  Speaker 11: I got to tell you, we need some better basketball
• 45:52
  Speaker 11: players on the football team, too. I've seen at least
• 45:55
  Speaker 11: two guys.
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: Miss the dunk. Yeah.
• 45:57
  Speaker 6: Trades did go between the legs.
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: And basketball.
• 46:00
  Speaker 6: Landon Clark tried, and he almost got there.
• 46:02
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 46:03
  Speaker 10: Landon's was a little gingerly, too.
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: Pretty fly for a white guy, but you have to remember.
• 46:08
  Speaker 10: He looks a little ambiguous, actually.
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: White, but you're also white. Jordan Ross missed his first one.
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: You're a fly for a white guy. Yeah.
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: I mean, you know, you'll see John Stockton up there dunking.
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean? I made a whole movie
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: about it. Yeah. Shout out Woody Harrelson. Yeah, shout.
• 46:28
  Speaker 6: Out.
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: This is going to be so fun. They got quarterback
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: rankings later.
• 46:31
  Speaker 5: NFL.
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: You want to do them when we come back? We can.
• 46:34
  Speaker 6: Matt Flynn's top 10 NFL quarterbacks here on OTV.
• 46:38
  Speaker 10: Off the bench.
• 46:39
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• 46:42
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• 46:53
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• 46:56
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• 46:57
  Speaker 3: But if you went to the website, you'd know that
• 46:58
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• 47:01
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• 47:03
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• 47:12
  Speaker 2: Gutters? Are you serious, Clark? Yes. Gutters. Oh, my God.
• 47:17
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• 47:18
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• 47:21
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• 47:26
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