Latest / Brian Thomas / Ask the Expert OHC -- 1/27/26
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- 0:01Speaker 1: Hey, forty six fifty ft care CD talk station. H
- 0:05Speaker 1: I love talking with the doctors from OAHC even as
- 0:07Speaker 1: one thing we can universally agree on that does not
- 0:10Speaker 1: bear a political stripe and is the ultimate unifier it
- 0:12Speaker 1: is that cancer sucks. I don't care what political stripe
- 0:16Speaker 1: you are. It does and I'm living it. But you know,
- 0:18Speaker 1: I'm in great hands with the doctors from OHC and
- 0:21Speaker 1: in house right now one of the great doctors from OHC,
- 0:23Speaker 1: doctor ton V. Joe she Is. She is here to
- 0:25Speaker 1: talk about cervical cancer because it's Cervical Cancer Awareness Month.
- 0:29Speaker 1: Welcome to the studio, doctor Joe she It's a real
- 0:31Speaker 1: pleasure having you here.
- 0:32Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much for having me. I'm passionate
- 0:34Speaker 2: about this, so excited to be here.
- 0:36Speaker 1: I know you are. And this is you know, I
- 0:38Speaker 1: always look for, you know, bright lights and positive things
- 0:41Speaker 1: to talk about when we're talking about cancer. This is
- 0:43Speaker 1: one where we can show terrific progress.
- 0:46Speaker 3: Yep, you're exactly right.
- 0:48Speaker 2: I mean, cervical cancer is almost an entirely preventable disease.
- 0:52Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna be like polio someday, I hope so. Well,
- 0:54Speaker 1: you know, and early on when the when the vaccine
- 0:57Speaker 1: came out, and we're going to talk about a little bit,
- 0:59Speaker 1: but early on when it came out, you know, get
- 1:01Speaker 1: much younger man look at life a little bit differently.
- 1:03Speaker 1: I've got a kind of a, i think, a more
- 1:05Speaker 1: realistic perspective. The whole idea of giving a young girl
- 1:11Speaker 1: a vaccine that is related to sexual activity first and
- 1:16Speaker 1: foremost seen to me kind of like a red flag.
- 1:19Speaker 1: But I'm completely on board. HPV, the human pabalona virus,
- 1:24Speaker 1: which is the cause of cancer, right right, exactly right,
- 1:27Speaker 1: It's everywhere.
- 1:28Speaker 3: Yep, yep.
- 1:29Speaker 2: Over eighty percent of you know, men and women in
- 1:32Speaker 2: the United States have HPV or have had exposure to
- 1:35Speaker 2: it in their lifetime at some point.
- 1:37Speaker 1: Right, So you got it. I mean exactly these deniers
- 1:39Speaker 1: out there, I've seen that the statistics, it's like overwhelming you.
- 1:42Speaker 1: You just can't avoid it. So knowing that it's everywhere,
- 1:44Speaker 1: getting the vaccine seems the most logical thing since it'll
- 1:47Speaker 1: stopping women from getting cervical cancer.
- 1:49Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly right.
- 1:51Speaker 1: All right, Well, let us talk about what causes cervical cancer.
- 1:56Speaker 2: Well, you know, as you mentioned, one of the biggest
- 1:58Speaker 2: risk factors is HPV, which is a sexually transmitted virus.
- 2:02Speaker 2: We already covered the fact that so many women and
- 2:05Speaker 2: men in the United States have it and even across
- 2:07Speaker 2: the world. The other risk factors kind of go hand
- 2:11Speaker 2: in hand with that. So when I think about risk factors,
- 2:13Speaker 2: you think about what could increase your risk of exposure
- 2:17Speaker 2: to HPV, And then the other side of it is
- 2:19Speaker 2: also what can decrease your immunity and your immune your
- 2:24Speaker 2: immune system and your response to HPV as a virus.
- 2:27Speaker 2: So when it comes to risk factors, you think about,
- 2:30Speaker 2: you know, sexual activity that could increase your risk of exposure,
- 2:34Speaker 2: having unprotected sex. When it comes to Burier, contraception can
- 2:38Speaker 2: increase your risk. And then also anything that decreases your
- 2:41Speaker 2: immune response, like a disease like HIV or any chronic
- 2:46Speaker 2: medication use that causes immune suppression can increase your risk
- 2:50Speaker 2: of HPV or maybe.
- 2:51Speaker 1: Your lymphoma cancer treatments.
- 2:53Speaker 3: That's certainly yeah.
- 2:55Speaker 1: Okay, I had to throw in a joke about myself
- 2:56Speaker 1: in their doctor. So the the HPU related cases ninety
- 3:02Speaker 1: percent cervical cancer cases. We know, we got that. What
- 3:05Speaker 1: are the signs and symptoms If you're an unlikely you
- 3:10Speaker 1: get diagnosed with cerveral cancer. What are women supposed to
- 3:12Speaker 1: be looking for so they can hurry up and get
- 3:15Speaker 1: out and see either primary care physician or one of
- 3:17Speaker 1: the specialists at OHC.
- 3:19Speaker 2: Right, So, sometimes cervical cancer can be insidious. It can
- 3:22Speaker 2: present without any symptoms. However, there are some common symptoms
- 3:27Speaker 2: to look out for, and one of the most important
- 3:29Speaker 2: ones can be abnormal bleeding. What I mean by that
- 3:33Speaker 2: is it can be you know, irregular bleeding, so in
- 3:36Speaker 2: between your periods or after intercourse. It could be just
- 3:40Speaker 2: really heavy abnormal bleeding that occurs with a period or
- 3:44Speaker 2: even after a woman is done having periods, such as
- 3:47Speaker 2: postmuntal puzzle bleeding. Other signs and symptoms include pelvic pain,
- 3:52Speaker 2: lower abdominal pain, some leg swelling or leg pain, or
- 3:57Speaker 2: abnormal and persistent discharge.
- 3:59Speaker 1: All right, So for the woman out there that here
- 4:01Speaker 1: is that and going, well, yeah, I've been having some
- 4:03Speaker 1: break breakthrough bleeding, I just write it off. I'm not
- 4:06Speaker 1: going to go see anybody about it. I because I've
- 4:08Speaker 1: heard about that my entire life from women anecdotally, and otherwise,
- 4:12Speaker 1: what's the risk they are running by not seeing someone
- 4:16Speaker 1: and having them check getting themselves checked out?
- 4:19Speaker 3: Oh? My gosh. I mean that risk is very high.
- 4:20Speaker 2: I don't know if there's a number that we can
- 4:22Speaker 2: put on that, but I will tell you that the
- 4:24Speaker 2: most most commonly the women that I see that are
- 4:27Speaker 2: diagnosed with cervical cancer are the ones that have not
- 4:29Speaker 2: seen a gynocologist in many years, five years, ten years,
- 4:33Speaker 2: or even.
- 4:33Speaker 3: More than that.
- 4:34Speaker 1: Okay, coming is a no shock to me. Is it
- 4:37Speaker 1: an aggressive cancer?
- 4:38Speaker 2: It is an aggressive cancer, but it is a slow
- 4:41Speaker 2: growing cancer. What that means is that we can diagnose
- 4:45Speaker 2: it at early stages even if it develops, as long
- 4:48Speaker 2: as you're seeing your gynocologist or a gyoncologist.
- 4:51Speaker 1: Okay, is it metastasized?
- 4:52Speaker 3: It can?
- 4:53Speaker 1: Geez, that's what that's the big concern right there. I
- 4:56Speaker 1: mean it's going to spread to your lungs, your kidneys,
- 4:58Speaker 1: your blood system, your bone. I mean, getting in front
- 5:01Speaker 1: of it can avoid so much, so much, and it's curable.
- 5:04Speaker 2: Completely curable. First of all, preventable and then secondly curable.
- 5:09Speaker 2: Just make sure that you see a gent oncologist.
- 5:11Speaker 1: All right, Well, you walk into the next subject matter,
- 5:13Speaker 1: what about preventing? How do women what can to help
- 5:16Speaker 1: them prevent serveral cancer? And don't tell them they never
- 5:18Speaker 1: have sex because you know, that's not going to happen.
- 5:20Speaker 1: That's why eighty percent of the adult population has it.
- 5:22Speaker 3: Exactly right, that's not going to happen.
- 5:24Speaker 2: But actually, there is something that both men and women
- 5:27Speaker 2: can do with regards to helping wipe out cervical cancer.
- 5:30Speaker 2: And when I think about prevention, I think, okay, there's
- 5:33Speaker 2: a primary prevention, which means, how can we potentially even
- 5:37Speaker 2: reduce exposure to HPV period?
- 5:39Speaker 3: Right?
- 5:40Speaker 2: How can we prevent getting that virus in the first place,
- 5:43Speaker 2: and that is through HPV vaccination. Second secondly, the other
- 5:48Speaker 2: way to prevent is by getting routine screenings like PAP tests.
- 5:52Speaker 3: Of course, Now, yes.
- 5:54Speaker 1: I gotta ask you about the vaccine.
- 5:56Speaker 3: I'm sure you will.
- 5:57Speaker 1: Yes, let's assume for the saying discussion, haven't been happily
- 6:00Speaker 1: married for the last thirty three years and I've been
- 6:01Speaker 1: exclusively involved with the same woman for like thirty seven years. Sure,
- 6:05Speaker 1: if I had it, is it too late to get
- 6:07Speaker 1: the vaccine? Maybe not me, it's sixty years old. But
- 6:09Speaker 1: if there's someone out there twenty year old, they may
- 6:11Speaker 1: be sexually active. A lot of them are here. Is
- 6:14Speaker 1: it ever too late to get the vaccine, and you
- 6:16Speaker 1: have to get out in front of it, like having
- 6:17Speaker 1: being vaccinated early before you engage in sexual activity for
- 6:20Speaker 1: the first for the first time.
- 6:21Speaker 3: That's a great question.
- 6:23Speaker 2: I think that the most useful strategy to prevention of
- 6:27Speaker 2: HPV is getting out ahead of it first and foremost,
- 6:30Speaker 2: so get the vaccination. Usually pediatricians and family providers will
- 6:35Speaker 2: be talking to patients or parents about this. So HPE
- 6:39Speaker 2: vaccination is ideally given to patients at the age of
- 6:42Speaker 2: eleven to twelve, but it can be given it from
- 6:45Speaker 2: nine to.
- 6:45Speaker 3: Forty five years of age.
- 6:47Speaker 2: So even if after you know, exposure to HPV, if
- 6:51Speaker 2: a patient has not gotten that vaccination, it's still worth
- 6:54Speaker 2: it to get it.
- 6:55Speaker 1: Really, okay, So these are for people beyond the forty
- 6:57Speaker 1: year old.
- 6:58Speaker 3: Virgin Yeah, exactly right.
- 7:00Speaker 1: Does it ever go away?
- 7:01Speaker 3: Does HPV go away at times?
- 7:05Speaker 2: I mean, if you think about it, it's a virus,
- 7:07Speaker 2: so the immune system has the chance and.
- 7:09Speaker 3: Has the ability to clear it.
- 7:11Speaker 2: However, a lot of the time, the way HPV behaves
- 7:14Speaker 2: is that it remains what we call indolent or you know,
- 7:18Speaker 2: undetectable levels because of your immune system hiding in the background. Exactly,
- 7:22Speaker 2: and it can come back, which is what again, you know,
- 7:26Speaker 2: highlights the importance of routine screening.
- 7:29Speaker 1: All right, Now, there's different types of HPV, because my
- 7:32Speaker 1: understanding is HPV causes or can cause, like, for example,
- 7:35Speaker 1: genital warts. So if you got those days, you go,
- 7:38Speaker 1: you got HPV. But do it? Does HPV always result
- 7:41Speaker 1: in that? Or is there different types?
- 7:42Speaker 2: So HPV has over fifty different strains, but there are
- 7:47Speaker 2: certain strains that specifically cause cervical cancer and have been
- 7:50Speaker 2: linked to what we call as a high risk HPV strain.
- 7:54Speaker 2: And then there's others like you said, that can cause
- 7:58Speaker 2: just genital warts. And actually the vaccine that we have
- 8:01Speaker 2: here protects you from nine different strains that have been
- 8:04Speaker 2: implicated in formation of words, as well as cervical cancer.
- 8:08Speaker 1: There's another incentive for folks to do the right thing
- 8:10Speaker 1: and get a vaccine. Let's get an HPV out of
- 8:12Speaker 1: our system. Now, what are the options for treatments for
- 8:16Speaker 1: folks who are who are diagnosed with cervical cancer?
- 8:19Speaker 2: So really that treatment depends upon the type of cancer
- 8:24Speaker 2: that they have, so in other words, what the cancer
- 8:26Speaker 2: actually looks like under the microscope, and then also the
- 8:29Speaker 2: stage of cancer, as in how far has it spread.
- 8:32Speaker 1: All right, so traditional things like chemotherapy, radiation, immunotherapy that
- 8:36Speaker 1: it's all in the arsenal, but you can deal with it. Yet,
- 8:39Speaker 1: the earlier it's detective, the more likely it is it's
- 8:42Speaker 1: not going to take your life. Any clinical trials. I
- 8:44Speaker 1: always have to ask bect clinical trials because you haven't
- 8:46Speaker 1: gone on all the time.
- 8:47Speaker 3: Yeah, that is true.
- 8:49Speaker 2: So OEC has a robust, you know, set of clinical
- 8:53Speaker 2: trials available for gynecologic cancers. We currently have something in
- 8:57Speaker 2: the pipeline for cervical cancer specifically, so in the world
- 9:01Speaker 2: of you know, what's next for cervical cancer after it's
- 9:05Speaker 2: already developed, we are starting to get more into targeted treatments,
- 9:09Speaker 2: so something that's car P not quite carte but similar
- 9:13Speaker 2: to it, though we don't have that specifically for HPV
- 9:16Speaker 2: or is for cervical cancer yet.
- 9:19Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, right.
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- 9:36Speaker 1: get a second opinion, you've already got cancer. Give them
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- 9:50Speaker 1: Doctor Joshi. It's been a real pleasure talking with you.
- 9:52Speaker 1: Thanks for bringing the awareness to my listening audience.
- 9:55Speaker 3: Awesome, Thank you so much for having.
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