Latest / The Inspired Stories Podcast / From Valet to COO: Brooks Ellis on Servant Leadership and Growing Evolution Parking
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- 0:04Welcome to another edition of the Inspired Stories podcast,
- 0:08where leaders share their experiences so we could learn
- 0:11from their successes and be inspired by how they've overcome
- 0:15adversity. As you listen today, let one
- 0:17idea shape what you do next. My name is Anthony Kotaspodi and
- 0:21today's guest is Brooks Ellis, Chief Operating Officer at
- 0:26Evolution Parking and Guest Services, a Tampa based
- 0:30hospitality company that delivers valet, front door and
- 0:33bell services for hotels across the country.
- 0:37Evolution was founded in 2019 with a simple mission, elevate
- 0:41the first and last impression of every property through genuine
- 0:46guest care, smart technology and engage team members.
- 0:50In only five years, the firm has expanded to more than 100
- 0:54locations, earned glowing case studies at flagship hotels like
- 0:58the Saint Regis and Ritz Carlton, and has recently earned
- 1:02industry attention for its hospitality focused model,
- 1:06including press coverage of its industry First partnership with
- 1:10Forbes Travel Guide. Brooks brings more than 25 years
- 1:14of experience in parking and hotel operations.
- 1:17Before joining Evolution, he held executive leadership posts
- 1:21with Zip Buy and Town Park, overseeing teens in all 50
- 1:25states. He was recognized by the
- 1:27National Parking Association as a 40 Under 40 honoree and holds
- 1:32the Certified Parking Professional credential.
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- 2:32today, the COO of Evolution Parking and Guest Services,
- 2:36Brooks Ellis. Thank you for making the time to
- 2:38Share your story today. Absolutely.
- 2:41Thanks for having me on, Anthony.
- 2:42So, Brooks the parking guy, You've been in the parking
- 2:45industry for years, with a variety of companies and
- 2:48responsibilities along the way. How did you first get your
- 2:51start? I mean, like most kids growing
- 2:55up, you know, I dreamed about being in valet parking.
- 2:58You know, I kind of fell into it.
- 3:01And I think that that's really the story you hear a lot around
- 3:05our industry. You know, we get to work side by
- 3:08side with hospitality. So that was very familiar to me,
- 3:13right? And being a part of working with
- 3:16hotels and all the fun environment that that brings
- 3:20about. We're very attractive.
- 3:22But I actually, you know, lost a job.
- 3:25My the restaurant that I worked for closed down overnight
- 3:28because the owner and his partner had a a nasty breakup
- 3:32and a friend of mine worked at a valet company invited me to come
- 3:35over and check it out and I figured I'd do that until I got
- 3:38a real job and here I am. And so how many different
- 3:42parking companies have you worked at?
- 3:44I've only worked at 4:00 and I worked with Town Park for a
- 3:49little over 20 years. That's really, you know, where
- 3:53I, I grew my career from the ground up, starting as a valet
- 3:58and then two other very short stints with other parking
- 4:01companies and then some parking technology groups that I worked
- 4:05with as well. So Town Park, you started as a
- 4:09valet Parker. You rose up through the ranks.
- 4:14VP of Operations, VP of Innovation.
- 4:18Relate a story from your time there.
- 4:21Maybe a particular challenge that you ran into, difficult to
- 4:26go through, but helped to shape the way that you approached work
- 4:29and life going forward. Yeah.
- 4:34So obviously at Town Park that was, you know, early career all
- 4:38the way through early executive career.
- 4:41And I got to be a part of an organization that was led by a
- 4:45founder that was really focused on employee development.
- 4:48Internal growth and development was paramount for us.
- 4:52And I, I benefited from it, but I got to work alongside leaders
- 4:56that really thrived on how they inspired and motivated others
- 5:02to, to learn and grow in the industry.
- 5:05And as an organization, we were really focused on delivering a
- 5:08premium product, not just, you know, like in hotels, they say
- 5:12heads and beds, right? Or the idea of getting more,
- 5:14more properties around the country.
- 5:16Our growth aspirations were tied to however we could grow and
- 5:21still be able to deliver this exceptional product.
- 5:24So early on in my career, getting a good grounding and
- 5:29understanding, number one, growing your employees and
- 5:32developing from within is a critical piece of your culture
- 5:36that allows you to be able to, you know, create messages and
- 5:40let them, you know, proliferate throughout the organization.
- 5:43Make sure people understand why what they do is important and be
- 5:48able to spend the time with them to build relationships because
- 5:50that's what we do with our clients.
- 5:52So in order for a client to trust us enough to deliver
- 5:55services at their site, you know, we have to show that we
- 5:59can earn that trust and we can deliver on what we say.
- 6:02So that was really big, but but I would say I grew pretty
- 6:07quickly. And the first job that I got
- 6:09where I was really scared was a hotel that a bunch of other
- 6:13leaders had failed at and not had success over multiple years.
- 6:17And I got a call one day from my boss saying, Hey, we want you to
- 6:20go run this mega resort and drop everything that you're doing and
- 6:26head over there and start doing it.
- 6:28You know, so great opportunity for me, right?
- 6:30But also scared the hell out of me.
- 6:32And it was a great launching point for my career, though,
- 6:37helped me to not only learn how to do what I did strategically
- 6:41versus just running out and doing it and having to
- 6:45understand that I can't do it all and that I I really multiply
- 6:49my efforts through enabling other people.
- 6:53So what was it that made this so scary?
- 6:55Why were so many other people failing at this property?
- 6:59It was, it was about 70 employees, you know, and, and at
- 7:04the time I had one other account manager job and at that job I
- 7:09had 20 employees. So it was a much bigger
- 7:11responsibility. It was a 1400 room hotel.
- 7:15So we'd routinely have 300 vehicles on board and at at
- 7:21peak, sometimes we'd have 1000. And it's just the complexity
- 7:24there. And it was a massive self
- 7:26parking operation too. So you know, they had just shy
- 7:31of 500,000 square feet of meeting space.
- 7:34So you can imagine the events that they would have there.
- 7:36It's kind of like running a Convention Center and but then
- 7:40also having to park the cars as well.
- 7:43So what was it that you were able to do differently to make
- 7:46this successful? Yeah, You know, it was really
- 7:49it. It all kind of came down to one
- 7:52event where I started to feel things unraveling, where it was
- 7:56getting too difficult. I was getting frazzled.
- 7:59I was a little bit more reactive than I've wanted to be for my
- 8:02employees or with my employees. And our HR manager at the time,
- 8:06young lady named Amy Hynes, pulled me aside and said, you
- 8:09don't look, look at, you know, all you've accomplished up to
- 8:13this point. You can do this, but right now
- 8:17you're spending all your time trying to do it for everybody
- 8:19else instead of letting them do what they, you know, what you
- 8:22hired them to do. And she pointed out a great
- 8:26example. There was 1 cashier that I would
- 8:28pull up. It's kind of like the, the story
- 8:30of Sisyphus, you know, and they, they tell the story Chris
- 8:33Machesney does and some of the 40X training about, you know, I
- 8:38would pull into work every day and I would pull up to this
- 8:41cashier booth where this cashier would work.
- 8:43And she was fantastic. But everyday I'd pull up the
- 8:46cones would be a little skewed. You know, there might be some
- 8:50paper on the ground or something.
- 8:51And it's 6 O clock in the morning.
- 8:53So she's just getting there too and starting to tidy up.
- 8:55And I'd jump out of my car, I'd fix all the cones, I'd pick up
- 8:59the garbage. I'd say good morning.
- 9:00And then I'd drive on my way. And Amy helped me to recognize
- 9:04that, you know, what I was really doing was causing that
- 9:07employee to feel like they didn't understand what they were
- 9:10responsible for and they weren't trusted to do it anyways because
- 9:13I was just going to come around and and fix it.
- 9:16And so that was a pivotal moment for me to be able to step back
- 9:20and try to understand how to, you know, lead by trusting my
- 9:25people, making sure they knew what they were accountable for
- 9:27and responsible for and what good looked like, but then
- 9:31stepping back and letting them actually do it.
- 9:34And when you run an operation with 70 or 170, whatever it is,
- 9:38individuals, there's a break point where you're completely
- 9:41ineffective when you lead in a way that you know, you try to
- 9:45micromanage and run everything. And in your mind, in the moment,
- 9:48you think that you're being helpful, right?
- 9:50Here's something that needs to be done.
- 9:51I know how to do it. I see it.
- 9:53And so you step in to try to do that.
- 9:55And so great that the HR director, you know, came and
- 9:59gave you that fresh perspective of, hey, here's the signal
- 10:02that's actually being received by that other person.
- 10:04And you know, tip of the hat to you for being receptive to that.
- 10:09Yeah, that was pivotal for me for and I, I think about it all
- 10:11the time to this day because there's many times that I, you
- 10:15know, the same tendencies creep up.
- 10:17And I felt it when I joined Evolution.
- 10:20You know, we are a very young company.
- 10:22When I first joined, they'd only been around for a couple years
- 10:24and really hadn't hit their stride yet.
- 10:26And then we started to scale really quickly and I felt the
- 10:29weight of all of that growth and expectation and, you know,
- 10:33maintaining relationships with all of our clients and making
- 10:36sure that we're delivering at every location, everywhere.
- 10:38And we had other people that were paid to do that.
- 10:41And so, you know, that same lesson creeped into the back of
- 10:44my head. And you know, those, those
- 10:48moments of clarity come when you're most vulnerable, right?
- 10:53When, when it feels like everything is coming down on you
- 10:56and it feels insurmountable, that's when you you're kind of
- 11:00forced to take that moment to think about how you got there
- 11:05and, and what's worked in the past and go back to what works.
- 11:09So how did the opportunity to join Evolution Parking come
- 11:12about? Yeah, so I had, I had worked at
- 11:16Town Park for a really long time.
- 11:18The organization started to kind of shift into a little bit
- 11:20different direction after some, you know, PE involvement and
- 11:27change in leadership and stuff like that at the executive
- 11:30level. So I, I really wanted to branch
- 11:31out and see what else was out there.
- 11:33I'd worked for one organization for 20 some years and I got a
- 11:36great offer to go join another company.
- 11:40I, I lasted there two weeks. It's a, you know, I, I spent
- 11:47over 20 years with one employer doing one thing the way that I
- 11:50knew was the right way to do it. And I felt like it when I, when
- 11:55I left, that I left that to go recreate the magic that I felt,
- 11:59you know, early on in my career. And, and to be able to deliver
- 12:02the superior product that I felt like was eluding me there with
- 12:07just the size and, and scope of the operations with that
- 12:10employer. So I joined this other company.
- 12:13It was a very different, very different approach to things.
- 12:18And I knew right away it wasn't right.
- 12:19And so I I stepped back. It just so happened to fall
- 12:24right after a big announcement about some strange disease from
- 12:28overseas that was coming into America and all of a sudden
- 12:30everything shut down so unanticipated.
- 12:33But I was fortunate A gentleman that ran a company called Zip
- 12:40buy out of Australia, Anthony called me and asked me to join
- 12:44the organization to come on board.
- 12:46And it was really a great, a great moment for me because it
- 12:51was COVID and it was a hands free parking technology where
- 12:57you didn't have to touch anything.
- 12:58So it was great timing for their product, not great time for me
- 13:02to leave a job that I was at for a long time and really did well
- 13:04with. But it turned out to be a great
- 13:06thing and made a lot of friends there.
- 13:08And they're they're very, very successful today.
- 13:11What is their tech? It's Bluetooth, so it's
- 13:15essentially you download their app on your phone and you a
- 13:20connect a credit card to it. And then wherever their
- 13:22technology lies, when you drive up, whether your phone's in the
- 13:25trunk or in your pocket, it'll open the gate for you start a
- 13:28session, which is, you know, today that's not, you know,
- 13:32necessarily that unique. There's a lot of technology that
- 13:35can do that, but one of their clients was Harvard University
- 13:41and the campus there, they really trusted our product and
- 13:46our team to deliver solutions for them.
- 13:48So we got to expand from just the parking gates to the doors
- 13:52of the building. So we did access credentialing
- 13:54essentially for them And then into the building, you would
- 13:58basically walk into the foyer and the elevator for your floor
- 14:02would trigger open up and you would just step in.
- 14:05You didn't have to touch anything and and they were able
- 14:07to control access. So it was a really cool product
- 14:11at the time and a great. Experience Did I have to have
- 14:13the app on my phone open or my phone on?
- 14:16You could have your phone in the dark screen mode like I said, in
- 14:18your trunk, in your back pocket or your bag.
- 14:20It didn't matter. It's.
- 14:21Interesting. OK.
- 14:23And so how did that then lead to evolution parking?
- 14:26Yeah. So the one thing that I couldn't
- 14:30find at Zip Buy that I had grown up with was a large team.
- 14:34I mean we had, we're a small group.
- 14:36There was a group of developers overseas and a small group here
- 14:40stateside that we worked with. And I just had that itch that I
- 14:45needed to, I needed to have more people to, you know, to, to work
- 14:49alongside. But I'll tell you what, we had
- 14:51an engineer named named Callie. Why am I not coming up with his
- 14:58name correctly? Callie Cridge.
- 15:02And we had Shirley. Shirley was an engineer at the
- 15:06time, but I talked to you a little bit about, you know,
- 15:09growth and development and how important that was to me.
- 15:11So right when I got there, the first thing I said was, you
- 15:14know, Shirley's going to run this company.
- 15:16She's going to, she's going to be the, the one that that does
- 15:19the job I'm doing someday. I got to figure out how to get
- 15:21her ready for it. And so that was my goal and my
- 15:25mission. That's what I woke up every day
- 15:26thinking, how can I do better in this way?
- 15:29And today she's run the company and, and I, it just sounded like
- 15:32I took credit for it. I couldn't because it's all her
- 15:35doing and she does a hell of a lot better job than I did of it.
- 15:38But but you know, I I found my exit at that point when I
- 15:43realized she can do it and they don't need me.
- 15:45So I'm hearing a recurring theme here, Brooks.
- 15:48You know, when during your time at Town Park sounds like they
- 15:52were really invested in helping employees understand that there
- 15:57was a path to to grow to grow within the company and they
- 16:02really helped you do that. You know, you went from, you
- 16:05know, ground floor all the way up to a couple of different VP
- 16:09positions And then sorry, the name of the zip by is that the.
- 16:14That's right. Zip by.
- 16:16You took that same philosophy that had been ingrained in you
- 16:21and you help somebody else, probably multiple people, but
- 16:24just one that you called out do the same thing.
- 16:28I'm gonna guess that that probably has carried through
- 16:30into evolution today and how you approach what you do with your
- 16:35employees. Let's hear more about that.
- 16:37Yeah, absolutely. I mean we know it's a
- 16:38competitive advantage for us because and sustainable
- 16:42competitive advantage because talent is is tough to find,
- 16:47right. And in our industry there's a
- 16:51lot of turnover. It's it's typically positive
- 16:54turnover. We get new sites, we have to
- 16:55bring new people in and constantly retrain and retrain.
- 17:00So if we can get the people that we bring in to stay and we can
- 17:05pour into them over time, then they get more of an opportunity
- 17:08not only to really understand our way of doing things, which
- 17:11we do try to uniquely position ourself in the industry, but
- 17:14also just to get comfortable with it.
- 17:17Because you know, what I learned early on on, you know, the first
- 17:20hotel that I, I had the opportunity to lead the, the
- 17:24valet team at was if I really drill into the team about the
- 17:29standards and I, and I force us to follow a script until it's,
- 17:33until you can do it in your sleep, Then you get to, then you
- 17:37get to let somebody let their personality shine because they
- 17:39understand the script, they understand the patterning.
- 17:41They're not going to miss a beat.
- 17:43And they, they recognize that at some point there's a switch that
- 17:46flips. And that's the hospitality
- 17:48people look for because our associate is confident, they
- 17:52know their stuff, they know the area, they're, they present
- 17:56themselves as a friend to the guest that they've never met
- 17:58before, right? To help guide them on this
- 18:00journey. Often times, whether it's
- 18:03business or leisure, you're, it's new, you're experiencing
- 18:06something you haven't before, you're in a new place, you don't
- 18:09know the area. There's all these voids that we
- 18:11can fill for them and I recognize that when we drill in
- 18:15on the standards and structure enough that you really get it,
- 18:19then you can be your genuine true self.
- 18:20And that's when we really deliver this service excellence.
- 18:23So when we think about growing developing leaders internally,
- 18:27it's selfish because I know once they get the confidence to know
- 18:30that they know it and know how to do it, then they can turn on
- 18:34the charm and they can turn on their personality and they can
- 18:36be their, you know, their genuine self and, and guests
- 18:39feel that instantly that that's a difference in, you know, you
- 18:45think about the typical hotel interaction, you pull up, it's
- 18:47very transactional. You get issued a ticket, you
- 18:50walk inside, they check your driver's license, they get your
- 18:53credit card, you get on your way.
- 18:55Those moments where somebody distracts your attention by
- 18:57catching you off guard with something that you didn't
- 19:00anticipate it it, you know it, it, you feel it immediately and
- 19:05it, and it triggers you because it's unusual.
- 19:07That's what we seek to do. And it's it's really hard to do
- 19:10in a transient work environment where people come and go.
- 19:12So we need people to stick around, learn and then get
- 19:15comfortable and then start to love it.
- 19:18What's an example of a way that you catch a a guest off guard
- 19:22with something positive? Yeah, so we used to one of the
- 19:27leaders that that had a strong influence on my growth and
- 19:32development called it, called them chin lifters.
- 19:35And so because if you think about you're walking into a
- 19:37hotel, you get your head down, you're dragging your bag, you're
- 19:39like, you know, I hope everybody leaves me alone so I can just
- 19:41get to my room and get on with my, my visit here.
- 19:45So we would aim to get them to stop and lift their chin and
- 19:47look at us. So we would say things like,
- 19:49Hey, that's an awesome tie. And it would be, you would have
- 19:52to be genuine about it because otherwise it comes off, you
- 19:54know, pretty poor. But we would find one thing
- 19:57about that person that we were like, wow, you know, I do like
- 20:00this and I, and I want to tell them about it.
- 20:02So it was, Hey, you know, and I find myself doing it today.
- 20:05I was a doctor's office and the nurse came in and I was like,
- 20:07man, I love those glasses. Those, those look great.
- 20:10And it's not, it's genuine. I I mean it.
- 20:13But it's uncomfortable at first if you don't, you know, 'cause
- 20:17we're taught a lot of times in service professions to keep it
- 20:21professional, you know, stick to the script, this sort of thing.
- 20:24And talking about, you know, complimenting somebody
- 20:27personally can be a little uncomfortable sometimes for
- 20:30people, believe it or not. So we used to train on it.
- 20:33Now, you have to be careful about some of the things that
- 20:35you comment on, of course, but it does.
- 20:38It makes a huge difference. If you can get a guest to disarm
- 20:41for just a moment and smile and recognize that you're genuinely
- 20:45there to try to, you know, help them enjoy themselves, then that
- 20:48creates a different experience at the hotel.
- 20:51So talking about evolution parking, what is a possible path
- 20:56of growth for somebody who comes in as a valet?
- 20:59Yeah, we see it all the time. So we have valleys come in
- 21:03within a few weeks or months, depending on, you know, what
- 21:07career experience they've had coming into that moment.
- 21:09They'll move into a supervisor role and that still has them
- 21:12working right on the front line every day, but gives them an
- 21:15opportunity to kind of lead the experience.
- 21:18We've got a lot of standardization in how we do run
- 21:23our shifts every day, right? There's a huddle where the team
- 21:25talks about what's important for the day.
- 21:28There's assignments that each individual has throughout the
- 21:30shift to make sure that things get taken care of.
- 21:33And that supervisor directs those activities so you get a
- 21:36good chance to understand. Can they motivate and lead their
- 21:38team to get things done? Or do they do like I did and try
- 21:41to do it all themselves? And, you know, we can teach them
- 21:44through that, too. But then they can move up from
- 21:47there to an assistant manager to a manager.
- 21:49We've got area managers that might lead a, you know, a
- 21:53handful of locations and directors that might lead a
- 21:56bigger portfolio. And with each of those roles,
- 21:59you get expanding responsibility for client relationship, for
- 22:02financials, for, you know, some HR responsibilities, hiring,
- 22:06interviewing, all of that stuff. That's really, I tell people
- 22:09this all the time when we bring them in and we start talking
- 22:10about development, that my goal is to better prepare them for
- 22:13their future, regardless of where that is.
- 22:15If that's with us, that's great. I hope it is.
- 22:17But I'm going to pour into them and I'm not going to be able to
- 22:20take any of it back. So what they get from us is, you
- 22:23know, career growth and development, whether it's with
- 22:26us or with somebody else. And I think that disarms people
- 22:29a little bit because a lot of employers say, hey, we want to,
- 22:32you know, grow and develop you from within.
- 22:34But there's a lack of trust that maybe that, that growth and
- 22:39development is structured around trying to save some money, that
- 22:41it's cheaper to grow and develop talent inside than it is to go
- 22:44outside the company and buy it. Or, you know, that you, you're
- 22:48growing and developing somebody because you can't hire people
- 22:51from the outside because your, your reputation is poor.
- 22:55But we, we seek to, you know, earn trust and then use that
- 22:59trust between both parties to be able to help our our team grow
- 23:04and advance our career. So going back to zip by, you
- 23:09were getting your successor, you know, ready for that hand off.
- 23:14How did the opportunity to actually join evolution come
- 23:16about, and what did they bring you in specifically to do at
- 23:20that time? Yeah, I don't think they knew.
- 23:24I think, you know, I got a call from the founder of the
- 23:29organization, really successful guy that I knew a lot about.
- 23:33He had, he had started and sold to other businesses prior.
- 23:40So one was a healthcare organization that he sold to a a
- 23:43big public firm called ABM and I think they had like over 100
- 23:48hospitals across the country that he had grown from the
- 23:51ground up and sold off. And then the next business that
- 23:54he ran, it was called Pinnacle Automotive.
- 23:59He had actually sold to the founder of Town Park, Jerry
- 24:02South. So Jerry and I had spoken a
- 24:04little bit about it and, and then Michael called me.
- 24:08I came in for the interview and I think I caught them both a
- 24:11little off guard because I was there with their current COO and
- 24:15Michael being interviewed. And they asked me, you know
- 24:19what, what's your, you know, three-year, five year plan if
- 24:23you were to join the organization.
- 24:26And I said, look, no offense to the gentleman, you know that
- 24:30that was the current COO. But I said, I think you'll find
- 24:33in a few months that my experience, the way that I, I
- 24:38lead, you'll want me to be in your, in your shoes.
- 24:42So hopefully there's an opportunity for you to move up
- 24:45because, you know, my goal to come here is to, to create,
- 24:48recreate the magic that I felt as an employee.
- 24:51And, and I, you know, when I, I was in my early growth stage
- 24:56with, with town Park, took a lot of pride in the product that we
- 25:00delivered. We had, you know, the best
- 25:01performing market in the country in service, in claims and
- 25:05financials. And I, and I told them, look,
- 25:06that's what I'm going to bring here.
- 25:07We're going to, you know, today it's 20 locations, but when it's
- 25:11150 and we can do the same thing with the same high touch
- 25:15environment with our clients and a boutique feel to this product,
- 25:20you know, that's unique. So again, I don't know how it
- 25:24struck the gentleman across the table, but they hired me
- 25:26anyways. I'm gonna have your job very
- 25:30soon. Yeah.
- 25:32Well, obviously they liked what they heard.
- 25:34They brought you on board. What was one of the biggest
- 25:36projects that you undertook when you first joined?
- 25:40Yeah. Well, it's actually a few years
- 25:42into joining. We are we are pretty structured
- 25:47and disciplined about doing one thing with excellence.
- 25:50We work with hotels across the country to deliver those front
- 25:54door services. And you know, I had worked in
- 25:57parking technology and I'm watching a lot of these other
- 26:01parking tech, you know, parking Valley parking companies that
- 26:04are installing parking technology and continuing to
- 26:08grow their their portfolio, but also creating more stability in
- 26:14revenues. So we went out on a limb, tried
- 26:19to figure out from the ground up how to develop a different type
- 26:22of technology product out there for self parking that would
- 26:25serve our clients. Not a commercial garage, not a a
- 26:29healthcare facility, but a hotel that has unique needs.
- 26:32And, and it's really hard to do that because one of the things
- 26:37that we knew was your guest is arriving and a lot of times you
- 26:41have very little information about why they're there, what
- 26:47you know, what rate they might have been quoted online or any
- 26:49of that, you know, personal information about that
- 26:51individual. But in a hotel setting, that's
- 26:52very important. If I pull up to a parking lot
- 26:55and I scan the sign to pay for my parking and the rate that
- 26:58shows up is different from the rate that I was quoted online,
- 27:01that's a problem. It creates distrust from the
- 27:03moment I walk in. So we aim to make our product,
- 27:08you know, unique and differentiated.
- 27:10We launched it almost a year ago last.
- 27:13Last April, one of our partners took a leap of faith and trusted
- 27:16us. And today we've got 80 locations
- 27:19around the country that we're doing it and and partners that
- 27:22are, you know, trying to give us their portfolio because of the
- 27:26revenue increase and really just a product that that speaks to
- 27:29their customer. Tell us more about what the
- 27:31product is, how it works, why it's so attractive to these
- 27:34locations. Well, it's called Revpass and
- 27:38you know, again, hotel theme revenue per per available space
- 27:42is what we call it in the parking industry.
- 27:44But Revpass is really from the ground up, created to be able to
- 27:50handle a hotel guest needs separate from, you know, a
- 27:55commercial garage, but also to provide the asset owner with
- 27:58data, right? Data is, is king.
- 28:00If you know what people are driving, how long they stay for,
- 28:04where they park, to understand the, the guest journey, right,
- 28:08you can be a lot more intentional about the product
- 28:10that you're delivering to those guests.
- 28:13You know, I think about a parking lot, massive parking
- 28:16lot, lots of different entryways, but if you know all
- 28:18of your guests go on one side of it, you can really curate the
- 28:21experience to follow the customer as they walk into the
- 28:24hotel versus trying to have that same impact of the whole
- 28:27footprint of the property. Being able to charge different
- 28:31rates, different times of the day, different times of the
- 28:34year. And and you know, having
- 28:36variable pricing I think is something that you're seeing in
- 28:39all facets of commerce today, right?
- 28:43So it's another thing we can do. So walk me through the guest
- 28:46experience. This is like an app experience.
- 28:48I drive into the hotel and and what's taking place?
- 28:52So you pull into the parking lot, they'll usually be a sign
- 28:55in from the spot or a few spots away with a QR code.
- 28:57You sign you, you click on that QR code with your camera and
- 29:01it's a web app, so no app needed.
- 29:04If you register it doesn't one of the unique things, it doesn't
- 29:07charge you immediately. What it does is it create, it
- 29:09opens your session and it lets you know, you know you're going
- 29:12to go ahead and check in at the front desk.
- 29:14Proceed to the front desk, the front desk, and then when you
- 29:17check in, let you know, hey, you've actually got a discount
- 29:19on your parking. Type this code in and and we'll
- 29:22get you taken care of. Or they can actually do it for
- 29:24you. It allows them.
- 29:26You know, one of the big things that we found that was unique
- 29:28with hotels is they have tax exempt groups.
- 29:32A lot of times government groups are nonprofits that stay there
- 29:36and parkings, a weird little challenge for them unless it's
- 29:40run through their system. Our our Rev pass is outside of
- 29:45their system. So they can actually still
- 29:47handle their tax exempt. Yes.
- 29:49They just flick a little switch on the customer session and then
- 29:53they're not charged tax. So it's little things like that
- 29:57that I think might not seem like such a big deal.
- 29:59But to that end user who shows up, that's a frustration that
- 30:03they didn't plan to deal with. And that kind of derails their
- 30:05experience right from the start. And you think about, you know,
- 30:09hotel, whether it's valet or that self parking experience,
- 30:13that's the first opportunity they have to interact with their
- 30:17product, right? So that first impression is
- 30:20going to set the tone for the rest of their stay.
- 30:22So if we can get that right, keep them happy, keep it
- 30:24flexible, then they'll they'll focus on some of the more
- 30:28exciting parts of the hotels in the parking.
- 30:30So what were hotels using prior to this?
- 30:34So all over the place, there's some hotels that have what we
- 30:38call the honor system and essentially you walk up to the
- 30:40front desk and they say, did you park a car with us?
- 30:42And you tell them whether or not you did.
- 30:46Our experience tells us that, you know, about 70% of people
- 30:50are honest or forgetful or whatever it might be, but
- 30:55there's a lot of opportunity there.
- 30:57We call another option, Honor System Plus, and that's
- 31:01basically you hand them A tag or something that creates this idea
- 31:05that somebody's looking or somebody's paying attention.
- 31:08So I should follow the rules here.
- 31:09And you get a little bit better compliance there, but still
- 31:11nowhere near 90% even. And so this product basically
- 31:18some hotels also have parking gates, right?
- 31:20Parking gates can be frustrating when it's just you pulling up
- 31:23and it works like it's supposed to.
- 31:24That's great, but when you leave at the end of a big event or you
- 31:29know, at the end of a a busy night there at at the hotel and
- 31:33you get stuck in a line that that can be really frustrating.
- 31:36So these systems allow these hotels, even very, very large
- 31:40hotels that would traditionally have parking gates all over the
- 31:43place to do away with the gates completely.
- 31:46There's automated enforcement in the event that the hotel wants
- 31:49to do that. So if somebody chooses not to
- 31:51pay, they can send warnings, they can send a ticket to them,
- 31:54whatever, you know, whatever they want to do with that.
- 31:57But in hotels, typically, they really just want to let, they
- 32:00want to let the guest know what they're supposed to do and trust
- 32:02that they're going to do the right thing.
- 32:05It's not, you know, we're not slapping boots on cars or towing
- 32:07cars away. We want to make sure customers
- 32:11know how to use the system, that it's easy enough for them to use
- 32:14it so that they'll do it and then encourage them that we are
- 32:17paying attention and they should do it.
- 32:20We also install LPR cameras in a lot of locations.
- 32:24Those are license plate reading cameras and that provides so
- 32:29much information to the hotel. It's not really about the
- 32:32license plate. We use that kind of as a ticket
- 32:34so that that's how we identify the the.
- 32:36Like an ID number. Right.
- 32:38Yeah, like an ID number, but it gives the hotel information
- 32:42about what types of vehicles, what sizes, how many EVs,
- 32:46electric vehicles pull into the lot.
- 32:48So when they think about how much investment should I put
- 32:51ahead for our capital expenditures in the next year to
- 32:54put in charging, they they have credible data to make that
- 32:58decision versus you know industry reports that might have
- 33:02nothing to do with their specific market.
- 33:04You were talking, Brooks, about how some of the older
- 33:08technologies, older approaches maybe have like a 70% compliance
- 33:11rate with your technology. What do you see that compliance
- 33:15rate be? It's in the 90s, so it really
- 33:18all depends on how the client chooses to enforce it.
- 33:21Because you know, believe it or not, there are plenty of clients
- 33:25that would tell you we're OK with not collecting 100% as long
- 33:29as we don't really disrupt our guests experience.
- 33:34So our goal is to provide them the guardrails to be able to
- 33:39collect up to 100%. When you put the signs out there
- 33:44and you have presents at the location, you know, whether
- 33:47that's people walking around warning tickets that might be
- 33:51placed on other vehicles, compliances over 95%.
- 33:55We, we found when we install the system, it's right around 98%.
- 33:59It'll trickle off if you don't pay attention to it because
- 34:03guests are very savvy these days and they will research online
- 34:07and people are very happy to put notes about how to save some
- 34:10money when you park at a hotel. So it varies wildly, but our
- 34:16goal is to make sure that the hotel has the tools and the
- 34:19information. So when those LPR cameras are up
- 34:21there, they know precisely how much of that revenue they're
- 34:24collecting today in those honor systems.
- 34:27They definitely think they're collecting over 90%.
- 34:30And then we show them the data to say that it's closer to 70
- 34:33and they're shocked. But you know, when you have
- 34:37cameras up and they track every vehicle that comes and goes, you
- 34:40can't hide from that data. And, you know, it causes them to
- 34:43just get a little bit more disciplined about it.
- 34:46You'd be surprised they they know every candy bar that might
- 34:49show up missing from, you know, from the gift shop, but have no
- 34:52clue how many cars are coming and going because it's outside
- 34:56the building. So.
- 34:58Yeah, I live in a busy urban area here in Columbus, OH.
- 35:02So certainly, you know, see the hotels around here that have
- 35:05parking services Also see them at a lot of restaurants.
- 35:09Why have you guys decided to focus exclusively on hotels?
- 35:13Is there just not the margin in the restaurant business?
- 35:16No, there is we've, we believe strongly that that you can
- 35:22perform at a much higher level when you seek to be excellent at
- 35:25one thing versus diversifying your impact over multiple
- 35:30verticals or whatever that might be.
- 35:33You know, there's lots of companies that do a very good
- 35:35job at doing all different verticals.
- 35:37Our goal is to be exceptional, not just pretty good like
- 35:41everybody else, right, So the product can work anywhere.
- 35:47Our sales team is a very small sales team.
- 35:50It's a team of two today actually.
- 35:52We've just hired another sales leader, but our goal isn't to
- 35:56try to sell to the whole world. Our goal is to sell to partners
- 35:59that think about the business the way we do that.
- 36:02It should be elegant. It should be, you know, focused
- 36:05on the guest experience and things should, you know, work
- 36:09the way they're supposed to, not compromise in order to make it
- 36:12work everywhere. So you guys are obviously
- 36:14helping out with all things related to parking, but it
- 36:18doesn't stop there. What else are you guys helping
- 36:21to do with these hotels? Well, you know, like I said
- 36:25early on, it's that that first impression when you walk in the
- 36:29door, it creates an emotion for that customer that they carry
- 36:32throughout their stay. And quite frankly, even when
- 36:35something goes wrong in the hotel, we can fix it before they
- 36:38leave a lot of times. And that means a lot, right?
- 36:41If you leave and you're still upset or you still feel like you
- 36:45were unheard, you carry that with you and there's a bit of
- 36:48resentment or, you know, definitely displeasure that that
- 36:52hangs around for a while, right? And we know, you know, whether
- 36:56it's from the research with Marriott or, or, you know, all
- 36:59these different brands that you return guests are, you know, so
- 37:02much more profitable than going out and seeking new guests.
- 37:05So our, our hotel clients want their guests to keep coming
- 37:08back. So all of the, the training and
- 37:13auditing that we do is all structured around how do we
- 37:16provide this environment where people arrive, it's friendly,
- 37:19it's safe, and they feel like they can trust the individuals.
- 37:23I always think back and we used to train with this video clip
- 37:26actually from Ferris Bueller's Day Off when they they drove his
- 37:33sports car. It was a little cabriolet.
- 37:35I don't remember if it was a what brand it was, but it's a
- 37:38very nice car that they're very nervous about.
- 37:40And they pull up to this greasy looking valet that was as slimy
- 37:43as can be. And they hand him the keys and
- 37:45he goes off joyriding in the car, right.
- 37:47And people believe that, that there's an element and they're
- 37:50probably there is, I know there is.
- 37:51I see it on YouTube, you know, from time to time.
- 37:54There's an element of that that does exist in our, in our
- 37:57industry. So we have to work really hard
- 37:59to earn people's trust in a momentary interaction.
- 38:03So everything from whether or not my name tag is straight and
- 38:06my shirt is pressed and the, this, the, the way that I stand,
- 38:10all of that sends a message to the customer that we know and
- 38:14understand. And we think about forensically
- 38:16how we, how we position ourselves, how when we smile,
- 38:19when we talk, you know, distance matters and all of that stuff
- 38:24that, you know, again, when I said we try to do one thing with
- 38:27excellence, That's why we're not, you know, out there trying
- 38:30to have a, a healthcare component to our business or
- 38:35commercial or whatever. It's so hard to do one thing
- 38:39exceptionally well that we know we can't do it.
- 38:42So we're not going to try. We we want to.
- 38:44Focus on you've established domain expertise in this one
- 38:47vertical, you know, all of the peculiarities of the hotel
- 38:51industry. Why dilute?
- 38:54That is sort of the philosophy, yeah.
- 38:56And we love it. That's that's another thing that
- 38:58shines through, right? Like I'm sure you can hear it
- 39:00from me, but I think if you talk to any of our leaders across the
- 39:03country and a lot of our employees, we want to hire
- 39:06people. We say it all the time.
- 39:08If we can just find people that care with genuine care, it makes
- 39:13all the difference in the world. It's not a hard job to teach.
- 39:16There's uniqueness to it. But if you care, even if you
- 39:20make a mistake, you can overcome that, you know, And my wife and
- 39:24I had an experience couple days ago.
- 39:26We went out to dinner and the gentleman that was working there
- 39:30handed out some food to a customer and forgot to put one
- 39:32item in there and we listened to him toil over it for about 10
- 39:36minutes. After they left he went to go
- 39:38chase after him and he couldn't catch him.
- 39:40And he was remarking as we sat there eating our food about how
- 39:43she was so excited because they had this vegan sandwich and she
- 39:46was going to get to eat it. And now she's, she's left
- 39:49without food and he had no way to get in contact with her.
- 39:53And I was so impressed. I'm sitting there like listening
- 39:56to every word that's coming out of his mouth.
- 39:57Like, man, I wish everybody thought like that.
- 40:00Because you have a job that's important.
- 40:02And it, it doesn't matter if it's serving food, parking cars
- 40:05or operating on somebody's heart.
- 40:08Somebody's placed trust in you to do it well.
- 40:10And you have the opportunity to care and deliver that way or to
- 40:15just transactionally, you know, do whatever you do.
- 40:18And I think that matters so much.
- 40:22And hopefully inspires our employees, you know, to think
- 40:24like that too. So I love everything that you're
- 40:27saying about, you know, the types of people that you're
- 40:29looking for, the way that you invest in them, that you want to
- 40:33show them there's a path of growth there.
- 40:35It strikes me that this has to be particularly challenging in
- 40:40your type of business because your folks are spread out all
- 40:44over the country, right? I think we talked about over 100
- 40:47different locations. And so I'd be curious to
- 40:50understand better, Brooks, how you approach all of this sort
- 40:55of, you know, recruiting, hiring, retention, like
- 41:00establishing that culture across such a, you know, diverse
- 41:03geography. How do you how do you approach
- 41:06this? Yeah, there's actually been a
- 41:09lot of dialogue internally with our team and externally through
- 41:14some recent LinkedIn chats that I've been a part of too, about
- 41:17culture, right? Culture is, I think, so
- 41:19misunderstood. You can't, in my opinion, you
- 41:25can't frame a culture and deliver on it because that's
- 41:28what you want to do. It's what you actually do.
- 41:31And people feel it and they see it.
- 41:33And it's how you lead and what you critique and what you manage
- 41:36or what you, you know what, when you inspect what you expect.
- 41:44If you don't do that and you say something's really important,
- 41:48but you don't go back to look and see if anybody's doing it,
- 41:50then it's clearly not important, right?
- 41:52And we talk about that all the time when we talk about culture
- 41:54internally is the culture of our organization is what we do as
- 41:57leaders, and that's everybody. So, you know, when we go
- 42:05recruiting, I think we do just what everybody else does.
- 42:09We put out a compelling message about what we aim to do for our,
- 42:13our, our customers where we work, because we work at some
- 42:16fun places that, you know, people look to.
- 42:19But the, the thing I think that's different for me with our
- 42:22recruiting process is we do it all internally.
- 42:25We don't trust any piece of that to a third party.
- 42:28So whether it's scrubbing resumes to look for the right
- 42:34type of person, that may sound tedious and AI does it, you
- 42:38know, fine. And I'm sure there's there's
- 42:40going to be a time that we can use AIA little bit more as as we
- 42:42get better at it ourselves. But being able to look at a
- 42:46piece of paper and look at somebody's experience and how
- 42:48they position themselves to us tells us so much about what
- 42:52they're going to be like when they show up.
- 42:54And if we bring one person in that is counter to our culture,
- 42:59it disrupts everything. It, it makes that manager's job
- 43:02a little bit harder because now they're, they're fighting to
- 43:05change somebody instead of teaching, training and
- 43:08developing them to, to understand our, our ways of
- 43:11doing things. It creates distrust amongst the
- 43:14other employees because they can see it and they can feel it.
- 43:17So we have to get that part right.
- 43:19There's nothing more important to our organization than than
- 43:22our people. So we have to do it all in
- 43:26house. And it's, it's hard.
- 43:28We have 1500 employees today and you know, with 60% turnover
- 43:33we're, we're constantly interviewing all over the
- 43:37country. Thankfully though, we don't hire
- 43:41a lot of managers from outside the company anymore.
- 43:45So we talked about our development programs and we've
- 43:48had a lot of success there and people like to stick around.
- 43:51So that piece, that's the, that is so much more difficult
- 43:55because that the further you get along in your career, the better
- 44:00you are at telling a story, not necessarily you know the the
- 44:03truth, but a story of what you know the employer wants to hear.
- 44:07It's hard to read between those lines.
- 44:09And quite honestly, it's just so complex, the job that a manager
- 44:14does for us and leading our people, delivering on a product
- 44:17for the customer, communicating and being a part of that
- 44:20customer's business, right? We're another department head
- 44:22for the hotel. We're not a third party.
- 44:25We have to be. We have to know their guest
- 44:27journey inside and out. So we have to be a part of their
- 44:29internal meetings, their resume meetings.
- 44:32We're the face of their business when a customer comes in and
- 44:35decides whether or not to book a big wedding there.
- 44:38So we're so ingrained in that operation that not only are we
- 44:41hiring for ourselves, we have to hire specific to the need at
- 44:45that location, the decorum of that location every single time.
- 44:48So it's it's a big challenge. Brooks, how would you describe
- 44:52your style of leadership? I guess you servant leadership
- 44:59is is a big piece of it. You know, hopefully you can hear
- 45:03some of that, but it's also, I like to have fun, you know, it's
- 45:07whether it's inside of work, outside of work.
- 45:09I joke a lot. And I think that's important
- 45:11because we spend a lot of time at work in the hospitality
- 45:15business. It's 24/7, 365.
- 45:18You know, we, we take phone calls on Christmas Eve and
- 45:23Christmas and the families that work for us have to leave their
- 45:27families a lot of times at times that they don't want to, you
- 45:31know, to, to make sure that we're delivering for every one
- 45:33of our guests everywhere, 24 hours a day, 365 days a year,
- 45:37right? So, so that's important and
- 45:40that, and I try to make sure everybody understands that when
- 45:43we talk about leadership, we talk about the inverted pyramid
- 45:45where my role as COO is to support every individual in our
- 45:49company. And so I've got a lot of work to
- 45:52do because I have to be there for everybody all the time and
- 45:56still be able to to do my job too.
- 45:58So if I don't empower them and I don't help them to learn on
- 46:00their own, then that means I'm making more work for myself.
- 46:03And each leader up the chain has responsibility for everybody
- 46:07under their charge. So for us, leadership is more
- 46:12about relationship than it is about getting the job done.
- 46:15Because we're going to make mistakes.
- 46:17We, we're moving, you know, 2 1/2 ton vehicles through guest
- 46:21thoroughfares with people and kids running around that are on
- 46:25vacation and not, not cognizant of the fact that they're in a
- 46:28driving lane, you know, on a roadway for the most part, you
- 46:32know, running around like no care in the world.
- 46:34And we have to protect them. We have to protect the brand of
- 46:37the hotel with, with how we approach everything that we do
- 46:40with customers. So there's a lot of outer
- 46:43business. It's really serious.
- 46:44And I try to make sure that we can still have a lot of fun
- 46:48while we're doing that stuff so that it doesn't overwhelm you.
- 46:52What's the future of evolution parking?
- 46:54What are some growth opportunities that are coming?
- 46:58Yeah. I think the thing that we've
- 47:00really done a great job of is aligning ourselves with our
- 47:03partners and thinking about their businesses like you know
- 47:08an asset manager versus a a vendor.
- 47:11You know, a lot of companies, Valley companies especially
- 47:14think about what they do as selling labor to the hotel.
- 47:18We we think about creating outcomes for that hotel, whether
- 47:21that's, you know, increasing their guest survey index,
- 47:25increasing their revenues, helping them to plan better
- 47:28around things to, to create more efficiencies within the
- 47:31operation, whatever that might be.
- 47:33So I think our well, it's evidenced by who our clients
- 47:38are. We have multiple national
- 47:41relationships where hotel brands gives give us every valley
- 47:46opportunity that they have or every self parking opportunity
- 47:49that they have because they trust us.
- 47:51And it's not that we don't make mistakes because we do.
- 47:54But when we make mistakes, we make it right and we sit on it
- 47:58until we figure out, you know, how it got wrong to begin with
- 48:01and fix it. So I think that's the one thing
- 48:04that I told you. We have two sales people now.
- 48:07We had one all the way up until a a couple months ago.
- 48:10Which is incredible growth with just one salesperson.
- 48:13Well, he's brilliant and that helps.
- 48:17Yeah, he is. And he's a, you know, he's, you
- 48:20know, done very, very well to understand our customers needs
- 48:25and, and to not only be able to deliver the product on day one,
- 48:30but he stays by their side throughout the journey.
- 48:33And that that makes it really, really hard.
- 48:35Like you said, we have over 100 clients now.
- 48:37So being there for everybody all the time gets harder and harder.
- 48:41So we did bring on some more help.
- 48:43We'll look to grow some more, but our growth is really all
- 48:45about relationships. If we do what we say we're going
- 48:48to do and we deliver on it, then we want you to go tell your
- 48:51friends about what we did or if you have other opportunities, we
- 48:55want you to give us an opportunity at it.
- 48:57So we've seen a lot of success there and and we don't aspire to
- 49:01be, you know, again, multi vertical 1000 property business,
- 49:09we want to be, we'd love to be at 300 hotels, you know, and
- 49:13we'll get there, we'll be at, we'll be at 200 before we get to
- 49:16the end of this year, which is really, really exciting and
- 49:19scary at the same time. But we're going to do it
- 49:23through, you know, making sure that we understand we don't
- 49:26leave anybody behind in that, in that path to growth.
- 49:29Is there some internal tech that you guys are layering in to be
- 49:33able to support that kind of rapid growth that you're talking
- 49:36about this year? Oh, all kinds of it, right?
- 49:39I spend a lot of time trying to learn about different software
- 49:44that's out there that our competitors use.
- 49:46One of the really cool things about the parking industry is
- 49:51all of the senior executives if for all of the companies around
- 49:55the country, they're all people that I know and that I've worked
- 49:57with over the years. So I can have a, a conversation
- 50:02with our competitor about what they're doing that's working and
- 50:05what's not. It's really easy for them to
- 50:07tell me. It's not really easy for me to
- 50:08do it right. So I get to learn from my peers
- 50:12and that's, that's great. It's it, it offers an awesome
- 50:14sounding board. But I, I'm spending a lot of
- 50:17time trying to understand how AI enables us to do more in a way
- 50:22that doesn't take us away from the customer.
- 50:25You know, I know there's a lot of apprehension in the world
- 50:27right now about what jobs is AI going to take away, you know,
- 50:32and, and there's an element of what we do that could absolutely
- 50:35be done, you know, through automation.
- 50:38But the reason why people hire Evolution is because we provide
- 50:45this exceptional guest experience and connection with
- 50:48their their guests on the way in and on the way out.
- 50:51So that first impression and last impression stick.
- 50:54And they align that with that brand, not with Evolution, but
- 50:57with, you know, the Ritz Carlton or the Marriott or whatever that
- 51:00brand is that that we're representing.
- 51:02I don't think that's going to go away.
- 51:04So we need to figure out how to leverage, you know, the data
- 51:08that we have so that we can better understand customer
- 51:12journeys and, and how people move and you know, when they're
- 51:16going to be able to anticipate what they need before they need
- 51:19it. That's so big for us is
- 51:22anticipatory service. And I know there's there's data
- 51:25there that can help us, but we also think a lot about
- 51:27protection and it means a lot of different things to us.
- 51:31But one of the things it means is when we operate a 2 1/2 ton
- 51:35vehicle, we have to understand that we're, we have to keep the
- 51:39customers safe that are out there on the front drive.
- 51:41We want to keep their their valuable safe, whether that's
- 51:45locking their car or scratching it on the way to the parking
- 51:48lot. And so we spent a lot of time
- 51:50talking about protection. When you think about, you know,
- 51:55those cameras, you think about dash cams and stuff like that.
- 52:00There's a lot of technology out there that we can use to enable
- 52:02us to better train our our associates.
- 52:04If I could see the driving path of every associate everywhere
- 52:08across the country, every time they park a car and I can have
- 52:10something trigger to say, hey, this looks a little unsafe,
- 52:13Let's take a look at it. Imagine the experience there,
- 52:16because now it's not about me being upset because somebody
- 52:19caused a claim. This is me proactively coming to
- 52:22somebody and saying, hey, we noticed when you were driving,
- 52:25you know, when you reverse that you were throwing your arm up
- 52:27over the back of the chair and looking back, that puts you in a
- 52:30position where you can only see One Direction and it limits your
- 52:33field of view and potentially puts the vehicle, other people,
- 52:36your, your coworkers at risk. And we want to train you how to
- 52:39do it differently. That experience to us is is
- 52:42where we want to be able to try to leverage.
- 52:45It's a training technology. Absolutely.
- 52:47Yeah. Yep.
- 52:48You know, growth has been a big theme of our conversation today,
- 52:52right? We're talking about the rapid
- 52:53growth of evolution. We're talking about the growth
- 52:56that you were allowed at your, you know, first stop in the
- 53:00parking industry, the mindset that you have brought to
- 53:04evolution and, you know, being able to help others grow.
- 53:07And now we're gonna shift the conversation towards more
- 53:12personal growth for you because growth comes from overcoming big
- 53:17challenges. Brooks and I would like to
- 53:20explore a big challenge that you've overcome in your life and
- 53:23how you got through that and and what you learned.
- 53:27Yeah. I mean, I would, I would say we
- 53:30talked about it a little bit, but I would say it was, you
- 53:32know, that same lesson that I'd learned over and over again.
- 53:34It was, you know, stepping into this role and then seeing the
- 53:38growth that we've seen at the rate that we saw it and trying
- 53:44to remember that it's not my job to do everything for everybody,
- 53:47but to enable them and empower them to be able to do it.
- 53:51So, you know, I'm, I'm a, I'm a quick learner, but, but I can
- 53:56also stray from, from the lessons that I've learned pretty
- 53:58quickly. I guess I've learned over the
- 54:00years as well. But you know, for us that that's
- 54:06really it, that that's it for me.
- 54:08It's been all about, you know, trying to reframe my role every
- 54:14time, you know, we hit a new benchmark of, of growth and a
- 54:18new, you know, kind of a new model for, for what we're doing
- 54:22when it goes from 20 hotels to 50, from 50 to 75 into 100, and
- 54:28then a new product that we're delivering and trying to
- 54:31perfect. It's one of the GMs that I used
- 54:35to work with years ago. He's now an area leader for
- 54:39Marriott. Ron Mackinac told me the
- 54:43business is kind of like changing the tires on a NASCAR,
- 54:47but you don't get to pull into a pit stop.
- 54:50And he's right. I mean, everything just
- 54:52constantly keeps moving and it doesn't slow down.
- 54:55We don't get days off. So our improvement, our
- 54:58continuous improvement model has to work with a live environment
- 55:02at all times. So, I mean, I read all the books
- 55:05I can read. I was on a webinar just before
- 55:09our time learning about how to better leverage HubSpot for our
- 55:14sales team to do some automations and stuff to get
- 55:16them out in the field versus sitting in behind a computer.
- 55:21And so that model of, you know, constantly trying to learn,
- 55:24constantly trying to get better, constantly trying to reframe
- 55:27where we're at today for our customers and what we provide
- 55:31and what they need for us tomorrow around the corner to
- 55:34make sure we're prepared for that.
- 55:36That's I think always going to be a challenge for me and for us
- 55:41because our, you know, like I said, our, our aspirations and
- 55:43goals are to keep growing as long as we can keep providing
- 55:47this service to our customers. And so what's been helpful to
- 55:50you in leveling up because you you touch on something key here,
- 55:54Brooks, you know, the person who is good at managing a company at
- 55:5825 locations, you know, that's a different set of skills when you
- 56:02get to 5075 a hundred now, you know, an additional tech product
- 56:06on top of that. Not everybody can make that
- 56:09transition as the company grows and the company often times
- 56:13outgrows its leaders. So what has helped you kind of
- 56:17keep pace? Yeah, I've had one advantage in
- 56:21that I've been down this road before.
- 56:24When I started at Town Park, we had 30 some locations and when I
- 56:28left, we were around 750. So I got to see a lot of that
- 56:34happen. And we had some really great
- 56:37leaders that I learned from that they weren't perfect either,
- 56:39right? They made mistakes.
- 56:40So I, I feel like I have the confidence to know I'm allowed
- 56:44to, to mess up every now and again.
- 56:46But the important thing for me that I learned, you know, from
- 56:51some of my mentors was have a plan.
- 56:56You know, your plan is where you start from.
- 56:58Mike Tyson says everybody's got a great plan until they get
- 57:01punched in the face, right? But but that's that's a great
- 57:04moment because in that moment, you reframe my plan doesn't make
- 57:08sense anymore. Now I've got to change.
- 57:10How can I change what's broken? And when you, when you have that
- 57:13discipline of, of, you know, reframing your plan every, you
- 57:17know, every month, it's is my rhythm.
- 57:19So every month sitting down and framing up a plan, deciding what
- 57:23I'm trying to accomplish every year, having a big plan that I
- 57:27want to make sure I can break up in a bite sized chunks
- 57:29throughout the year allows me to be able to measure my
- 57:31performance and see my own opportunities.
- 57:35So, you know, being self aware, especially in leading a people
- 57:40driven organization, you know, our product is people and it's
- 57:44lots of people spread out all over the country.
- 57:47You have to be, you have to be able to reflect on what you're
- 57:51doing well. You have to be able to
- 57:53understand what you, you know, did yesterday and what you plan
- 57:55to do tomorrow and whether or not that's on your strategic
- 57:58path to move, move the company forward.
- 58:01And you have to be able to reflect on, you know, how how
- 58:04you feel about what you did honestly.
- 58:05And I feel like we have great people that work with us.
- 58:09They they give honest feedback because there is a trust that we
- 58:12all have with each other that I can get critiqued from, you
- 58:16know, somebody that that works for me and not be defensive
- 58:19about it. So, and I welcome it, you know,
- 58:23I, I asked for it, that look, if we walk into a room and we walk
- 58:28out in agreement, but you don't actually agree, you were just
- 58:30afraid to speak up, then, you know, we both are going to look
- 58:33silly because we're going to fail and you know, and, and then
- 58:36nobody's nobody wins. So let's hash it out while we're
- 58:40in the room together, you know, and then figured out, even if it
- 58:43means you have to be disruptive and disagree and, and it feels
- 58:47uncomfortable, if you're doing it to make sure that we make the
- 58:50best decision, then you're going to make us better.
- 58:53And I need that, you know, that's what I asked for from my
- 58:55senior leaders. What's your superpower, Brooks?
- 59:00I think it's clarity, you know, it's being able to take the
- 59:05chaos of, you know, any environment and be able to boil
- 59:10it down to what are the most important things?
- 59:11What do we need to focus on today?
- 59:13And then, you know, once we get that down, what are we going to
- 59:16focus on tomorrow? So being able to see around the
- 59:19corner and what what we're seeking to achieve is a big
- 59:23picture, but being able to break it down in a bite size chunks
- 59:25that are measurable, repeatable and and teachable so that you
- 59:32know, people understand what it is that they need to do today to
- 59:35reach that big lofty goal that beehag that that's in the future
- 59:38for us. What's your favorite thing to do
- 59:41outside of work? I'm all over the place and you
- 59:44know, I talked about, you know, being able to control chaos, but
- 59:47my personal life is I love to just stay busy and stay active.
- 59:51IA big Crossfitter. I love fishing, so I like to be
- 59:55outdoors. It doesn't matter if it's
- 59:57fishing or hiking or just, you know, whatever activities
- 1:00:02outdoors. I've got three, I was about to
- 1:00:04say little girls, but they're 2421 and 17 now.
- 1:00:11So but they're all still local and we spend a lot of time
- 1:00:15together. So my wife and and the girls is
- 1:00:19everything I do. But so we, you know, we're at
- 1:00:22the parks, we live in Orlando, so we spend.
- 1:00:25A fair amount of time outdoors, and that's where I love to be
- 1:00:28thankful to be in Florida. Yeah, just one more question for
- 1:00:31you today, Brooks. But before I ask it, I want to
- 1:00:34do 3 quick things for the audience.
- 1:00:36First of all, to get in touch with Brooks.
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- 1:01:26So last question for you, Brooks.
- 1:01:27A year from now, what is 1 very specific thing that you hope to
- 1:01:30be celebrating? So we've got a big goal right
- 1:01:35now as an organization to eliminate claims from our
- 1:01:38business. I think everybody in the
- 1:01:41industry, maybe not everybody, that's a broad statement.
- 1:01:44A lot of people in the industry look at claims vehicle damage as
- 1:01:49a cost of doing business. And I think it's kind of absurd,
- 1:01:52right? Like if you thought about, hey,
- 1:01:54I bought this car, at some point I'm going to crash it into
- 1:01:56something, you know what I mean? That's ridiculous.
- 1:01:59So we spend a lot of time trying to help our team frame that idea
- 1:02:04because it is hard to imagine they've seen, if they've worked
- 1:02:08in parking for a long time, they've never seen an operation
- 1:02:11that they didn't have a claim. And so we're doing a lot to
- 1:02:16teach and train around the theme of protection.
- 1:02:20Again, we're protecting our guests stuff, right, their
- 1:02:24vehicle or what they might have in their vehicle, but also the
- 1:02:27people that are out there by driving safely, our client's
- 1:02:30reputation by, you know, not damaging somebody's vehicle and
- 1:02:33creating a bad experience and all of this stuff.
- 1:02:37And it's right in line with what we do well, you know, around
- 1:02:39training and developing our team.
- 1:02:42But it's with a more important mission that, you know, we're
- 1:02:45going to try to eliminate something from the business that
- 1:02:48has traditionally been a large part of it.
- 1:02:52And we're not going to accept anything less than this goal of
- 1:02:56getting to 0 claims. So it's aspirational.
- 1:02:58It's it's a beehag, it's a big hairy audacious goal that you
- 1:03:02know, we're going to tackle and and accomplish.
- 1:03:04So a year from now, that's where we'll be.
- 1:03:07So you had mentioned before when we were talking about, you know,
- 1:03:09some of the tech things you're like, oh, you know, if we had
- 1:03:11dash cams, wouldn't that be great?
- 1:03:13And obviously you can't put a dash Cam in a, you know, a car
- 1:03:16that's not yours, but or, or you kind of tilt your head like, oh,
- 1:03:20OK, so correct me here. Well, I don't know.
- 1:03:22I mean, that's, that's you, you know, never say never, right?
- 1:03:26Because if you would have told me five years ago that I'd be
- 1:03:29typing into a a machine on my computer that tells me
- 1:03:32everything about everything and answers every question you could
- 1:03:34ever have, I would have said you were crazy.
- 1:03:37But here we are, right. And so that's exactly, you know,
- 1:03:40one of the products that I'm trying to figure out.
- 1:03:42Is there a way to do that in a meaningful way where even if
- 1:03:47it's not perfect, it gives us a little bit more insight that we
- 1:03:50can learn a little bit more and be more targeted with what we
- 1:03:53teach? Leave no stone unturned.
- 1:03:58So we're that's one. Product body cams for you know
- 1:04:00each of your ballets. Yeah, it could be.
- 1:04:02There's all these weird things that you have to worry about,
- 1:04:04right? Especially when you're dealing
- 1:04:06with guests all the time. And look, we see famous people
- 1:04:09just like we see normal people all the time.
- 1:04:11And a lot of, you know, people don't like cameras.
- 1:04:14So we'll have to figure it out. It's not like it's easy.
- 1:04:17But that's why. That's why it's our big hairy
- 1:04:19audacious goal, love. It Brooks Alice from Evolution
- 1:04:22Parking and Guest Services. I want to be the first to thank
- 1:04:25you for sharing both your time and your story with us today,
- 1:04:28and I really appreciate you being here.
- 1:04:31It's great talking with you. Folks, that's a wrap on another
- 1:04:33episode of the Inspired Stories podcast.
- 1:04:35Thanks for learning with us. And if one thing stood out, put
- 1:04:39that into action today.