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Episode 270: Stargate: The Ark Of Truth · Get Into Gate: A Stargate Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Yet in two Gate episode two hundred and seventy, talking
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  Speaker 1: about Stargates, Well, I mean, what is it, Maddie, it's
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  Speaker 1: not even SG I mean it is kind of SG
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  Speaker 1: one but Stargate.
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  Speaker 2: But it's not STU.
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  Speaker 3: It's just Arc of Truth, Stargate a movie, not the
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  Speaker 3: movie movie. Yeah, it felt weird actual.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, we'll get into it, but you know, we
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  Speaker 1: are talking about Stargate SG one adjacent the first of
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  Speaker 1: a planned bunch of follow up movies that you know
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  Speaker 1: only lasted two. But we are talking Stargate, Arc of
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  Speaker 1: Truth or the Arc of True, Arch of Truth. Let
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  Speaker 1: me do that again, Argate, the Arc of Truth. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not cutting that out obviously. My name is Mitch. That's Maddie.
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  Speaker 1: You can tell the wheels are absolutely falling off now
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  Speaker 1: that Brendan has.
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  Speaker 3: Has as I would I wouldn't say part of ways.
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  Speaker 3: He hasn't part of ways. He's just you know, he's
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  Speaker 3: taken it, taken a step back.
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  Speaker 2: Like we're just a motivike. We were a motibike with
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  Speaker 2: a sidecar on it, and now we're just a motivike.
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  Speaker 3: He would love that.
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  Speaker 1: Actually, because of the nineteen sixties Batman reference of.
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  Speaker 2: That my head went to two fat ladies. So okay,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what I just when I think of sidecars,
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  Speaker 2: I think of them.
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  Speaker 3: You and you alone, buddy, No, I think.
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  Speaker 2: I like that he's literally Robin when you know how
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  Speaker 2: there was that cooler thing where Robin's sidecar like had
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  Speaker 2: the little go cut could injected out. Yeah, yeah, that's
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  Speaker 2: what Brendan's saying. He's just ejected.
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  Speaker 1: That's what he's done, straight to the pub until he
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  Speaker 1: is called on again, and then he'll be like Batman,
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  Speaker 1: Michael Keaton, Batman returns that great gift. So we're getting sidetracking.
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  Speaker 2: I have to be in the in the like of Spandex.
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  Speaker 2: While he did it in the Little the Little Dts.
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  Speaker 3: But he did, But how good does he look in it? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Someone else, other people that look great in Spandex. I
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  Speaker 1: can only assume. Because we weren't very ready to do
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  Speaker 1: an episode just by ourselves yet, Maddie, we've called in
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  Speaker 1: our correspondents, our LA.
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  Speaker 2: Chapter international correspondent.
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  Speaker 1: International correspondence, one returning a correspondent, and one intern correspondent
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  Speaker 1: as it would be. Although she has had many mentions
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  Speaker 1: on the podcast in the past, straight out of LA
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  Speaker 1: straight out. If it's Compton, let's just say, for the
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  Speaker 1: sake of the argument's right out of Compton, it's Jacob
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  Speaker 1: and Alla.
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  Speaker 2: What's happening, guys straight out of Long Beach.
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  Speaker 3: Oh Long bitch.
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  Speaker 4: Represent the LBC.
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  Speaker 5: You're not sniffed dog.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you're as wide as Maddie and I like that
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  Speaker 3: just doesn't it doesn't work.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and now don't adjust your sets, everybody. That's right,
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  Speaker 2: you're hearing it's not my voice. This is an actual
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  Speaker 2: girl on the show for the first time.
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  Speaker 5: I think I actually have a lower voice than Maddie.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 4: The blood twist is that she's actually been here the
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  Speaker 4: whole time, but since Brenda's there, she never he never
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  Speaker 4: let her talk.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: In fact, he's very proud of So. Yeah, this is
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  Speaker 3: very weird.
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  Speaker 1: Like I just said, two hundred and seventy episodes in
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  Speaker 1: plus specials, we're nearing three hundred, and we've never had
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  Speaker 1: a female voice outside of well.
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  Speaker 2: A live female. We've had Holly from Lonnie, We've had Toasty,
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  Speaker 2: We've had a few, we had the infamous Swey.
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  Speaker 3: Occasionally my three year old daughter runs in. Yeah, oh, Bella,
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  Speaker 3: I guess Bella. Brendan's daughter, Bella.
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  Speaker 2: Bella was here.
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  Speaker 1: She was here for an episode, but not in a
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  Speaker 1: full episode capacity. So we thought, well, yeah, we're done
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  Speaker 1: with SG one. We'll be getting back into Atlantis on
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  Speaker 1: the next episode with a drift first episode of season four.
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  Speaker 1: But we thought we were talking about a movie.
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  Speaker 3: We want to we want to bring in a couple
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  Speaker 3: of other voices to help get us.
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  Speaker 2: Well, well, we've been trying to get Jacob and Ellen
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  Speaker 2: on the show for a while because Ellen is a
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  Speaker 2: she's a first watcher, so famously Jacob made her watch
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  Speaker 2: Universe first, which we've discussed ab that was the worst
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  Speaker 2: many times.
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  Speaker 4: I was myself on that one, but I thought, this
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  Speaker 4: is perfect. It's no, it's fine, it's kind of perfect.
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  Speaker 2: It's kind of perfect because also, like you guys, we
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  Speaker 2: can have you here to just like Ellen can discuss
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  Speaker 2: the whole like season nine to ten as a whole,
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  Speaker 2: arc Archestray, the whole sort of Ari storyline as a whole.
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  Speaker 2: So it's kind of perfect timing.
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  Speaker 1: Now, look, it might not be an official SG one episode.
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  Speaker 1: It is a mooy Matthew, but we have got a
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  Speaker 1: synopsis to get through. Thanks the dB DVD physical physical copy.
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  Speaker 1: This s thrilling feature length film picks up where Stargate
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  Speaker 1: SG one left off, thrusting the Stargate team Daniel Jackson,
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  Speaker 1: Varla Tilk, Sam, and Cam into their most exciting adventure
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  Speaker 1: yet in search of an ancient artifact they hope can
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  Speaker 1: defeat the oppressive Allri. The team learns that the Alri
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  Speaker 1: are set to launch a final assault on Earth.
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  Speaker 3: And a double crossing operative is on board the Odyssey.
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  Speaker 1: Spoiler how I mean, just out of interest with what's
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  Speaker 1: available to you guys in the US of A. How
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  Speaker 1: how did you watch The Arc of Truth? You're watching
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  Speaker 1: it physical media? Are you able to stream it easily enough?
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  Speaker 1: Had you pulled up?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, so I am it's on Prime, but it's not.
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  Speaker 4: It's not like a free Prime video. So I had
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  Speaker 4: to buy it a while ago.
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  Speaker 1: Right, Okay, yeah, yeah, we got that MGM wall as well.
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  Speaker 1: That's right, and I'm not doing that, and so I
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  Speaker 1: actually had to Yeah, then fish out the old DVD,
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  Speaker 1: which was fantastic, but with the remote and it's like
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  Speaker 1: play play movie or play movie with prelude, and I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: not on this physical media, and I'm like, you know what,
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  Speaker 1: I will play the prelude and then I realized it
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  Speaker 1: was like ten minutes. I'm like, I don't have enough
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  Speaker 1: time to watch this movie, let alone ten minutes of recapping.
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  Speaker 1: But I thought, we've taken, you know, the last couple
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  Speaker 1: of years to watch seasons nine and ten of SG one.
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  Speaker 3: I think I'm going to need that.
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  Speaker 1: And I just I think it made the Arc of
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  Speaker 1: Truth feel that little bit more epic.
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  Speaker 3: I think, with like, hey, here's all this back. God forbid.
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  Speaker 1: If you're an absolute newbie, even more so than you Ellen,
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  Speaker 1: who just was in like a store one day saw
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  Speaker 1: Stargate the Arc of Truth for you know, six bucks
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  Speaker 1: or something in a bargain bin and went.
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  Speaker 3: I'll give that a whirl.
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  Speaker 1: And then you pull up the prelude ten minutes, which
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  Speaker 1: recaps season nine and ten of a show you've never watched.
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  Speaker 2: As if you were someone who thought that Arch of
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  Speaker 2: Truth was a sequel to the original Stargate film, and
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  Speaker 2: I've seen the first one. I'll put it in this
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  Speaker 2: arc of Truason.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, what if I missed two hundred hours of content? Okay, great,
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, it's I think just the two I mean,
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  Speaker 1: we're jumping straight in it.
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  Speaker 3: But as much as I want to shit. Can Robert C.
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  Speaker 1: Cooper the two and a half sort of minutes of
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  Speaker 1: establishing shots, you know, going through the misty mountains and things.
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  Speaker 2: So they can get the credits out of the way.
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  Speaker 3: So then get the credits out of the way.
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  Speaker 1: But I mean that you do that, and it just
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  Speaker 1: it does feel a little bit more cinematic, and so
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  Speaker 1: I like that separation and even you know a lot
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  Speaker 1: is it really actually a film? I forget how long
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  Speaker 1: this goes for, and you know it's an hour and
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  Speaker 1: hour and a half.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I thought that two episodes.
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  Speaker 2: Did you guys get the prelude option where how you
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  Speaker 2: watched it.
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  Speaker 3: Or no physical media rains again?
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  Speaker 2: Actually Ellen and Jacob did, Actually they I think it
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  Speaker 2: was it was a video or they like facetimed me
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  Speaker 2: or whatever. One time they were in like a second
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  Speaker 2: hand bookstore or something like that and they just found
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  Speaker 2: all these Atlantis n SG one box sets there for.
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  Speaker 5: Wait, but back then that's when Jacob would like hide him,
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  Speaker 5: be like don't look at it because they changed like.
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  Speaker 4: O'Neil's gone course, yeah, literally covered up season six so
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  Speaker 4: she couldn't see it.
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  Speaker 5: But you know, here's the issue with him having me
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  Speaker 5: watch Universe first, is like I remembered O'Neil and Carter,
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  Speaker 5: and I'm like, okay, well they're fine. They're not gonna
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  Speaker 5: die in the show. Then, because we see him in
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  Speaker 5: univer remember Daniel, No, I remember Daniel, but remember the
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  Speaker 5: other two.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well I still haven't seen Universe at all. I'll
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  Speaker 1: be watching that in chronological order, release order. Sorry for
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  Speaker 1: the show. So you are blowing my mind. Now you're
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  Speaker 1: saying things that I don't understand, but I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: get there eventually.
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  Speaker 3: Eventually.
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  Speaker 2: They just don't just just don't tell me about the Hammond.
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  Speaker 2: Don't tell me about Hammond coming back.
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  Speaker 3: Don't tease me. Don't tease me.
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  Speaker 1: So what do we I mean, we spoke of and
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  Speaker 1: you wrote us in that wrote us in an audio
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  Speaker 1: message that makes no sense. But when when you sent
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  Speaker 1: us in some mail bag a couple of episodes ago,
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  Speaker 1: Jacob about what's the dominion? Right, that's the penultimate, penultimate
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  Speaker 1: episode and that you said, oh, that could have been
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  Speaker 1: the season finale as far as the way that it
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  Speaker 1: wraps up, well, the shows SG one's version of the he.
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  Speaker 2: That was Ellen, he credited Ellen, that that was Ellen's
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  Speaker 2: that that was your idea?
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  Speaker 3: Well you can remember.
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  Speaker 5: Sorry, I just definitely thought they should have switch.
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  Speaker 3: I don't hate it now.
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  Speaker 1: I apologize that I'm not even remembering a podcast that
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  Speaker 1: I not only was a part of that I edited,
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  Speaker 1: and I still forget it.
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  Speaker 3: I just saw that.
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  Speaker 2: I just show saw the look that l shot Jacob
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  Speaker 2: when you said that, and she was like, did you
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  Speaker 2: steal my idea?
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  Speaker 3: It was full credit. It was full.
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  Speaker 1: Creditor, absolutely, Ellen, But like, yeah, we we sort of
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  Speaker 1: we sit there and think about the way that Unending
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  Speaker 1: played out, and there was some all right stuff there obviously,
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  Speaker 1: but it had kind of been wrapped up enough that
• 8:56
  Speaker 1: if they never brought it up again, you'd be like, well,
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  Speaker 1: I guess you know, we can't found out that they died, right,
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  Speaker 1: so they not as much of a threat anymore. End
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  Speaker 1: of story, end of series, We're done. And then you
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  Speaker 1: pick this up and it's like, oh no, it's still
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  Speaker 1: very much a thing that's happening, and we need to
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  Speaker 1: find this weapon that's going to destroy them, and it's
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  Speaker 1: like it feels like, oh, yeah, that was a cancelation.
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  Speaker 1: It wasn't a natural end. The way that I think
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  Speaker 1: I take from Unending a little bit more. I watch
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  Speaker 1: Unending and I go, yeah, that feels like the natural rap.
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  Speaker 1: But also I've got such fond memories of that episode
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  Speaker 1: that I don't ever think about SG one as its
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  Speaker 1: own ten season series, being anticlimactic and not getting its
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  Speaker 1: own resolution. And then you get this movie that's like,
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  Speaker 1: oh no, there's there's, there's there's there's more ice cream
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  Speaker 1: at the end of this, you know, you get a
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  Speaker 1: little bit more.
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  Speaker 4: So I disagree, man, I don't know. To me, Unending
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  Speaker 4: just feels like so small in a way. Yeah, it's
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  Speaker 4: like all the series like it's it has this momentum
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  Speaker 4: and then all it is is just one fight that
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  Speaker 4: didn't actually end the storyline. Yeah, And for me, actual
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  Speaker 4: I didn't know that arc of truth and continue when
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  Speaker 4: We're a thing when I first watched the show. So
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  Speaker 4: for me, I thought that was the last of the
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  Speaker 4: story I'd ever see, and it's just like, wait, there's
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  Speaker 4: so much more I want to know. And it did,
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  Speaker 4: in a way feel very small and and not like
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  Speaker 4: a proper end, And so that's why it hit me
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  Speaker 4: so hard that oh yeah, if Dominion was the ending,
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  Speaker 4: then it would be like, there's this wonder of what's
• 10:26
  Speaker 4: Adria going to do? You know, Yeah, because now that.
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  Speaker 2: She's a sender, there's also the stumble I think. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: Dominion didn't have a lot of Stargate the actual physical
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  Speaker 2: gait in it, but it did still have you know,
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  Speaker 2: Valas sneaking away, you know, with her memory being screwed
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  Speaker 2: up and the Sodain cloak and all that kind of stuff,
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  Speaker 2: Whereas I think one of the issues that both Unending
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  Speaker 2: and Ark of Truth has is there's not really a
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  Speaker 2: stargate in it. The Stargate is not really in either
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  Speaker 2: of these episodes in a show called Stargate. I think
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  Speaker 2: with Ark of Truth they did try and you know,
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  Speaker 2: shift that and made a big meal out of us
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  Speaker 2: dialing the Supergate and the Odyssey going through the super
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  Speaker 2: Gate to the or Eye Galaxy, but it didn't have
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  Speaker 2: the same Even though they even did the little like
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  Speaker 2: the the the d what do you call it, demolecializing
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  Speaker 2: and stuff like that, which we haven't seen in forever,
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  Speaker 2: it still didn't have as much wonder and awe as
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  Speaker 2: like the first time you see people step through the
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  Speaker 2: Stargate and that kind of thing. Yeah, So I think, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: for a show called starget like there's a there's a
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  Speaker 2: moment in this episode after the the Odyssey, it comes
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  Speaker 2: out of hyperspace, cloaks and then beams down to a
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  Speaker 2: planet and they're calling that stupid I away guy, mister Marrick,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm like, I'm watching Star Trek. I'm sorry, I'm
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  Speaker 2: watching I'm watching Star Trek. Except for the fact that
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  Speaker 2: in Star Trek you can't really be uh oh no,
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  Speaker 2: you can't be No, you can't beam out while you're cloaked.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. But anyway, Yeah, it's it was a lot,
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  Speaker 2: there was a lot of treking. This in a show
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  Speaker 2: that you know is that is really, in a lot
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  Speaker 2: of ways of the antithesis of Trek. I feel like
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  Speaker 2: a lot of these later seasons it's a little too
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  Speaker 2: a little too tricky, and it's not.
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  Speaker 4: The antithesis of Track. It's the happy medium between Star
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  Speaker 4: Trek and Star Wars.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like that's Mitch's brain I think
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  Speaker 2: is about to be overload processing no, because he's in
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  Speaker 2: his brain's going there's another like hour long podcast. It's
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  Speaker 2: a conversation that we need to have. Just on that statement,
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  Speaker 2: We'll just.
• 12:29
  Speaker 1: Give Maddie and myself one of these, you know, just
• 12:31
  Speaker 1: just to say things. But no, it's funny actually cause
• 12:33
  Speaker 1: I'm driving my kids that are that are sitting outside
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  Speaker 1: hopefully and behaving themselves while we record this. But we
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  Speaker 1: were just watching some some Stargate and some Atlantis, which
• 12:43
  Speaker 1: you know we're talking about on next week's episode, and
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  Speaker 1: you know, he presses pause and like, stop pausing it,
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  Speaker 1: just watch it. And he said, so is this like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, is this like star What's what is Star Trek?
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  Speaker 1: And then I was like having to go, well, you
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  Speaker 1: know Star Wars quite well, they've never seen any Stargate
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  Speaker 1: because I want to make them watch it from the beginning,
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  Speaker 1: and they've definitely never seen any Star Trek.
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  Speaker 3: Probably much the same.
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  Speaker 2: Reason and Uncle Matt's way uncle asking questions about what is.
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  Speaker 1: But also when you consider that there's like nearly one
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  Speaker 1: thousand episodes worth of you know, Star Trek out there.
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  Speaker 2: I'll filter out all the ship for that and I'll
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  Speaker 2: just I'll just give him the purests approach.
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  Speaker 3: It'll still be in double digits. You won't even want Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: of good stuff.
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  Speaker 2: I think it was a Damio Edwards. I think once
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  Speaker 2: tried to ask me he's liked, give me, give me
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  Speaker 2: the top top one hundred episodes of Star Trek, and
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  Speaker 2: I had to given list without one hundred and seventy
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  Speaker 2: something that was as tight as I.
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  Speaker 3: Could get, and I had to try and explain to them.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, like you know, with Star Wars, like we can
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  Speaker 1: look about it, you know, being said a long time ago,
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  Speaker 1: but it doesn't really matter. It's such fantasy and it's set. No,
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  Speaker 1: it's not Earth, they're not humans, blah blah blah. So
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  Speaker 1: whereas you know, Stargate is now and Star Trek is
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  Speaker 1: in the future, and you know, filled in some other things,
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  Speaker 1: I said, so, yeah, Stargate between the three Stargate is
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  Speaker 1: very much more like Star Trek on that very you know,
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  Speaker 1: basic way of looking at it.
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  Speaker 2: Although although the opener for this was very was very
• 14:00
  Speaker 2: Star Wars. It was like it was like if they
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  Speaker 2: got Ai to write the opening crawl for Star Wars
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  Speaker 2: the way the way Archive Troops opened with the thing
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  Speaker 2: on the on the screen saying millions of years ago
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  Speaker 2: in a distant galaxy. Come on, Cooper, geez.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it couldn't help it more specific than a long
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  Speaker 4: time ago, millions.
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  Speaker 2: Of years ago. Yes, you may as well have just
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  Speaker 2: said a long, long time ago in a galaxy far
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  Speaker 2: far away.
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  Speaker 1: And I know we talk about what happened millions of
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  Speaker 1: years ago a lot with this show with regard to
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  Speaker 1: the ancients and things, But to do that and then
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  Speaker 1: immediately they're panning down and we're seeing the same medieval
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  Speaker 1: village that today, I'm like, so.
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  Speaker 5: Really, thank you, Okay, nowhere Jacob gets all my ass
• 14:47
  Speaker 5: about this so much, but I literally have it in my.
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  Speaker 4: Notes.
• 14:55
  Speaker 5: Thank you. Mitch is my favorite human.
• 14:57
  Speaker 4: Now.
• 14:58
  Speaker 5: They use the same in set for everything, and I
• 15:02
  Speaker 5: get that it's like whatever, like the planets, but they
• 15:04
  Speaker 5: like it's so annoying. Yeah, it's like every single time
• 15:08
  Speaker 5: they've panned out. I think the only time I think
• 15:11
  Speaker 5: they lost that diversity in season one, honestly, with like
• 15:15
  Speaker 5: trying to make planets look different, but that same set
• 15:18
  Speaker 5: it comes up every time, and Jacob I feel like
• 15:20
  Speaker 5: it's just waiting for me to be like, oh my god,
• 15:22
  Speaker 5: this is so annoying. It's the same, like, yeah, like
• 15:25
  Speaker 5: I brought.
• 15:26
  Speaker 4: It from a Bingo card of when she watches Starget,
• 15:28
  Speaker 4: it's like, okay, they're speak English, Okay, it's the same
• 15:32
  Speaker 4: medieval set.
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: Oh, Ellen, Ellen, yes is the ending by the twenty
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: seven minute mark, and she knows exactly.
• 15:38
  Speaker 4: That's a free space. I don't think he does. Sorry,
• 15:44
  Speaker 4: which does Mitch know about how She's like she has
• 15:49
  Speaker 4: premonitions of like how the show will end.
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: I've told you that. I mean, basically, Ellen can just
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: like any kind of movie and especially Star Gate. By
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: the half white point, she goes, well, this is gonna happen,
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: this is gonna happen, and this is gonna happen.
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I've got one of them too, Jacob a partner
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: that is good at that and makes me feeling out
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: of it because I'm like, really, the first time I
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: watched this, I didn't get that until it happened, and
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: even then.
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: I was still question.
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: We started watching a brand new show the other night
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: in four minutes and she's like, well, he's the bad guy.
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: I'm like, well, he looks like it's sure.
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: But and then before the end of the first episode
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: they revealed by the way, this is the bad guy,
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: and I'm.
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: Like, did you have to ruin it?
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: Did you have to do that?
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: At least you've seen it.
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think now we know what Jake can be getting.
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: Ellen fir Christmas, and it will be just this beautiful
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: writing set of these beautiful sheets of paper and beautiful envelopes,
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: so they can just have on the on the coffee
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: table and every time they're going to sit down to
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: watch something, she can write all that stuff, put it down,
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: she can seal it with a wax stamp and all
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: that kind of stuff, and just had this. That's what
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: I did to Mitch when we did that whole thing
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: about Darth Maul and Star Wars and that kind of stuff.
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: I put it all in an envelope and gave it
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: to him, And yeah, it's the way to do it.
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: I love though, with.
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: The reused sets and all that sort of stuff. Is
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: that Maddie and I a couple of weeks ago and
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: he laughing at everyone get into geeks talking about Star
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: Wars that there were those complaints by he who shall
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: not be named when and Or was out, and Matdie's
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: had his own problems with the end Or, but it
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: wasn't the fact that there were buildings that were made
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: out of you.
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: Know, bricks, right, or you know brickish type pieces.
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: And then I think about Stargate and it's like, not
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: only do I think they use the exact same bricks
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: on several different planets. Because they're literally just picking up
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: a wall and reshaping it. You get the same extras
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: wearing the same costume. And I swear I've seen that
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: same bloke sweeping the main street on every single goddamn
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: planet now over the span of millions of years.
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: That's because I'm literally a background actor. Okay, that's one
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: of the things I do. And it's like, so they
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: would ask you, Hey, have you ever been on the
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: show before?
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: And you say not, Yeah, why And if you want
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: to see the back of Jacob's head? Watched the pilot
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: episode of Doctor Odyssey now on Disney Plus. He's doing
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: the one and only Joshua Jackson I had to see
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: because of the age difference. Had to explain to them
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: who Pacey and Dawson's creek was. They didn't know. They
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: didn't understand any.
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: Of what about Charlie Conway from The Mighty.
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: Ducks, no, even even cruel intentions they weren't even really so.
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: But yeah, if you want to see the back of
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: Jacob's head in that, keep an.
• 18:15
  Speaker 5: Eye for it, or his face in all American.
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: Where where can we watch that?
• 18:23
  Speaker 5: Netflix?
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: I want to say that.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: I want to say that's a that's a stand special
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: over here. Let me just do a little live check, Holly,
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: I'm doing a live check here, but as far while
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: while I do, uh oh, this is going to come
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: up very quick. It's on stand guys. Yeah, you're very welcome.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: So I guess did it feel natural then, especially with you, Jacob,
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: if it didn't feel like a proper ending, and I
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: I agree with you. As much as I love unending,
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: I think I love it just as a character thing.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: If you look at it as the end of a story,
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: it's definitely not that. So in that does it feel
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: natural then? Way this story picks up is certainly in
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: modern times on Dakara. Does it feel like the natural
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: next step or in this case, the next episode or
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: the next two episodes to finally.
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: Wrap up the arc of Truth?
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: For you?
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: Did it feel like you were just rejoining the show
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: for the next season. It didn't feel like there was
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: too big of a jump or anything.
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah? Literally, Because when I watched Dark of Truth for
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: the first time, I still remember it. It'd been a
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: while since I watched the show, but as soon as
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: I started Ark of Truth and they did the opening
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: thing and then and then bang we're on to Kara
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: and it's Daniel digging in the dirt and I'm like,
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: oh shit, we're back, you know. I just I loved
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: that and it brought me back into it. And so yeah,
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: I really liked that. And and just watching pointing out
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: Christopher Judges an actor, he made some interesting choices. He's
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: very subtle, but his subtle things of he's very smug
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: in a way in this in this movie where he's
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: like he knows what they did in an ending, he's
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: never gonna tell him. And so if you watch it
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: thinking about that, then it adds so much more because
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: he's like, oh, I'm never gonna tell I'm never gonna
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: tell you.
• 20:14
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: But like it's the same old goodness between Daniel and
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: Valla and Mitchell and Sam. It's just it brought me back,
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: but there's this new element because.
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: Of Vala did have one of my probably top three
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: lines of the entire movie in that scene. And it's
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: a piece of audio that I wish we were able
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: to use on the podcast since like season one, because
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: I feel like it really would have come in handy
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: to me at certain times. Yah, I love it.
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: I mean we can put it on. We can put
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: it on the soundbites now.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: I mean you know I'm gonna need it for season
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: four and five of Atlanta's absolutely.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: For every time we did one of these. You want
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: Vala discribed. Yeah, okay, good, okay, good to.
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: Know already tell anyone already time anyone brings out the
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: point of origin argument that Brennan and I would have,
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: or the Zeta or those.
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: Other things, alternate timeline, all that.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: Kind of stuff, I just need a Oh hang on, sorry,
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: you need a.
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: That's what maybe? Yeah, you look like crap.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: Well I like that when you said the choices and
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: how subtlely is like Tilka has been subtle for ten years.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: But at that in that first stage where you know,
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: Daniel gets up, He's like, hey, I can complain to it, right,
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: but I'm going to do the work. I haven't showered
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: in Dazed ship.
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I can tell.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: And then as it's sort of like you're following Valor
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: toward Daniel because you're following there, you're following their sort
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: of interaction, but Tilka is just off to the left
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: of screen and you're seeing there and he's got his
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: arms behind his back and he just sort of like,
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: you know, pokes his chin down a little bit, as
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: if he's sniffing his own armpits to go. And again
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: you're not looking at that. And maybe that's just one
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: of Robert T. Cooper's brilliant shots where some people in
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: the background and some people are in the foreground.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: I don't know, we'll get will we'll get that?
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: When I saw that credit card written and directed by
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: robertsy Cooper, and I thought, I know Maddi loves getting
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: into his director's commentaries.
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: There's probably going to be a rough a slew.
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: An audio commentary.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: Uh huh. It was Rob Robert C. Cooper, one of
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: the guys who sucks up Robertsie Cooper's ass all the time.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: And Christopher Judge, who barely got to get a word.
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: In no doubt.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: Well you talk about tilk and like that. He knows
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: what they did for the last eighty years.
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: So what was what would it end up being in
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: the end? Sorry, I don't know.
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: They never gave a number in fifty or whatever. Yeah,
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: I don't think they've actually gave a number in the show.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: Was kind of like in the in the script it
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: was maybe like, oh, you know, they fast forwarded to
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: twenty years later, fifty years later, seventy years later or
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: something like that. But I don't know that it was.
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: An issue because of the age makeup.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: Yes, so I don't think an actual number was ever given.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: They just said, you've lost as many years as we have.
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: When til volunteer to be the one to make the sacrifice,
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: they said, you've lost as many years as we have. Yeah,
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: we're even looking around that they do his makeup like
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: that the peer It was just so, yeah.
• 23:10
  Speaker 5: That was pretty bad.
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but you look so doctor Strange could run.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and you're thinking about all the years that he
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: lost making that sacrifice. And then he gets his ass
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: whooped in this movie, like it wasn't enough that he
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: got shot and like badly enough that even for Tilk
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: he was down for like what hours until nightfall, And
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: then he gets up and he uses a weapon of
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: the a I soldiers as a crutch and just walks
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: his way and like fully like Middle Earth's his weight
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: across whatever millions of year old planet that is, and
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: then gets right before that giant all ride, you know,
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: Temple of Fire situation, and then collapses.
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: And I was like, man, how much shit this guy?
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: Like, he just gets punished And we sit there and
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: I was listening to our it was what last week's podcast,
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: I think, or whatever it was, and we're just laughing
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: at the idea that like Tilk, the you said, oh,
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: your favorite Tilk episode is the one that he's not
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: actually in, because it's almost like they don't know how
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: to write him, so they don't ever write him as
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: a main character very well. And I think probably the
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: best ones have been when Christopher Judge has written them,
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: because he plays the character and he knows the character.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: He said as much in the audio commentatory.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I bet he did, and he would be right.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: But it's like whenever people they don't know how to
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: write him, but when they do write him, they kick
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: the shit out of him. And I'm like, man, Tilk's
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: been through enough.
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: He doesn't even need to be here anymore. He's doing
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: it for us.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: He should be off with his own to his credit,
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: like yeah, because I feel like in this instead of
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: writing him a good story, they just kind of wrote
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: in to remind us just how strong and tough he is.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: The fact that literally no one else could have done
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: what Tilk did yeah, in traveling that far while injured
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: and all that kind of stuff, And like the I
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: did enjoy the Jigsaw puzzle piece at the end, like
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: of when the actual ark is opened, when it's like, well,
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: he needed the weapon and he was the only one
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: that could hit it while Arler was doing her well,
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: Daniel was doing his thing. But yeah, that's not a
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: lot of meat for Tilke as an actor, like at
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: Christopher Judge as an actor. But what I did like
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: is the really point I've seen.
• 25:19
  Speaker 5: I mean, he did have that really great monologue.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I want to I wanted to play a
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: little bit of that, just the little bit of a
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: speech he had with Toman, because I feel like this
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: is something that would have I think would have been
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: really good for us to find out about Tilk in
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: season one, not the movie after the show has been canceled.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: Knowing this, imagine if you heard this speech then going
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: in and knowing Tilk's arc from season.
• 25:45
  Speaker 6: One, Nothing I have done since turning against the Gold
• 25:48
  Speaker 6: will make up for the atrocities I once committed in
• 25:50
  Speaker 6: their name. Somewhere deep inside you.
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: You knew it was wrong.
• 25:56
  Speaker 6: A voice you did not recognize screamed for you to
• 25:58
  Speaker 6: stop on the way out. It was the way things were.
• 26:04
  Speaker 6: They could not be changed. You tried to convince yourself
• 26:09
  Speaker 6: the people you were hurting deserved it. You became numb
• 26:12
  Speaker 6: to their pain and suffering. You learned to shut out
• 26:15
  Speaker 6: the voice speaking against it. There's always a choice. Indeed,
• 26:20
  Speaker 6: there is a choice to ignore it. Yet you sit
• 26:22
  Speaker 6: here now.
• 26:25
  Speaker 7: I sit here, and I cannot imagine the day when
• 26:27
  Speaker 7: I will forgive myself.
• 26:29
  Speaker 6: Because it will never come one day. Others may try
• 26:32
  Speaker 6: to convince you they have forgiven you. That is more
• 26:35
  Speaker 6: about them than you for them imparting forgiveness is a blessing.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: How do you go on?
• 26:45
  Speaker 6: It is simple, You will never forgive yourself.
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: Accept it.
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: Like to know that T has been holding onto that
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: for ten years is pretty substantial, Like, that's pretty monumental.
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: So I wonder if that's why he chose to play
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: the part kind of like angry in a way. He
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: sounded angry. Yeah, you know, it sounded also you know,
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: it's a very it's a very profound kind of philosophical
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: thing that he said, where he's like, others will forgive you,
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: that's more for them. Yeah, yeah, you know that's something
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: I've I've you know, I've I've been taught you know
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: by in philosophy classes. It's, you know, forgiveness is it's
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: it's a two way thing. But mostly it's done because
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: you want to feel better, and you forgive someone because
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: you want to feel better about yourself. It's not for
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: that person even, and that's just it's brutal when you
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: think about it in this context.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I can't help. But every time I hear
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: til give that speech, it takes me all the way
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: back to the pilot with the way Tilke's voice broke
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: a little bit. When when O'Neil does the you can
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: help me save these people, he says many have said that,
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: but you were the first I believe could do it
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: and then did it. Like so it's like that moment
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: and this moment back to back, like in my brain
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: I can't separate. Yeah, so I guess maybe that's why
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: in my head it's like, yeah, I really wish this
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: had been maybe like an end of season one speech
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: that til Cattle or something like that would have been,
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: or maybe the first time a popus died or something
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: like that and Tilk was going through it. I feel
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: like this would have been a really good conversation to have.
• 28:20
  Speaker 5: I kind of liked that they waited this long. I
• 28:22
  Speaker 5: think just because knowing Tilk, he's not he's not valor.
• 28:26
  Speaker 5: He's not gonna say everything that's on his guardian mind
• 28:28
  Speaker 5: every second. So I think like he waited and they
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: were alone, like in the cafeteria. He wasn't saying it
• 28:35
  Speaker 5: in front of anyone on his team.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so it was just kind of like, you're you.
• 28:40
  Speaker 5: As much as I love you know, Mitchell and Carter
• 28:43
  Speaker 5: and the other one, Daniel, it's just like, I don't
• 28:50
  Speaker 5: talk to them about that stuff. Like I'm gonna talk
• 28:52
  Speaker 5: to you because you are in my position that I
• 28:55
  Speaker 5: was in ten years ago. Yeah, you're gonna And he
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: wasn't very comforting because he was like, you're gonna feel
• 29:01
  Speaker 5: like this for the rest of your life, but you
• 29:03
  Speaker 5: at the least you can do is just try to
• 29:04
  Speaker 5: do the right thing.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he gave you.
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: Actually, I feel like if they put it in season one,
• 29:08
  Speaker 5: it'd be like, well, we already know he probably feels bad,
• 29:11
  Speaker 5: you know, years.
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: Under his belt they would have needed. I think the
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: conversation with Toman was really good because a Toman needed
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: that that hard truth and that tough love, because yeah,
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: he is essentially the new Tilk in that way. He's
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: he's someone who's turned against his his faith and his beliefs.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: They've whitewashed Tilk with Toman. But yeah, like he's definitely
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: not a conversation he would have with with any that.
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: Even with O'Neill, I think it wouldn't have hit as
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: hard as it did with Toman. But yeah, so that
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: the person was right, But yeah, I just yeah, I
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: don't know, I just I guess I kind of wish
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: it was something sooner, but you know, at least at
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: the end of the day, at least he got it,
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: because imagine if he didn't have that in this episode,
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: what else would would he done except for the big
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: montage of him walking across the mountains and all that
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: kind of stuff. So I'm glad Question of a Judge
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: got some got a little bit of meat in this episode.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: I like that we get that speech maybe is it
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: three or four seasons in and he gives it to somebody,
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: you know, and he's very it's very raw what we
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: just heard for that full sixty seconds, like him saying
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: that I'm you never forgive yourself. You just have to
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: sort of try and make up for it and accept
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: what you did and you did it for whatever reason.
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: Blah blah blah. And then it gets to the next
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: episode where he blows away Charree and then and then.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: He and Daniel were talking and he's like, I feel
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: nothing like you know, just he just moved, not like
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: I had to forgive myself.
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: And no, bro, no.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: Forgiveness is for them, not for you. And Daniel's like,
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: I'm not forgiving you. He's like, could just shot her
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: in the leg. You went center mass.
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: Well, Daniel's the worst thing to ever happen to Tilk
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: and char Yeah.
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: And I guess if you if you take a sension
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: out of it, he's the worst thing to happen to
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: abidots because they're all gone. But new Way, I had
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: a thought with Away. I had a thought with Autust Mallem.
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: We were talking earlier about you know, the bless you
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: our beloved village, our beloved village set that we get
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: introduced to at the start of the episode, and then
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: we have the conversation with the you know, proto Lanteans,
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: the h our Terrans. I guess, yeah, is the best
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: one for these guys having their little secret conversation. And
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: then we see later on the ship, you know, exiting
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: out of the out of the mountain and the big
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: did they kill everyone in that village or or.
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: With that a whole kid just finished sweeping those streets
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: and all of a.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: Sudden on top of it, because I kind of got
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: the vibe that there weren't that many Lanteans in that village.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: That's why they were having their little secret meeting in
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: that little room, because the whole village couldn't have a chat.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: So did they just kill a bunch of like or
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: I believers as they left with that, with that big
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: avalanche or like that was it's not very landin of thematic.
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: I got the vibe that they needed to hide from
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: the other people. Yeah.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so like but when they left, they they totaled
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: that they totaled that place. They're like these guys, So.
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: I mean the set survived, it also traveled across the gallage.
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Something else sort of kind of hit me too that.
• 32:30
  Speaker 6: Uh.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: In that speech they talk about the are specifically, So
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: I don't so the ore I must already exist for
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: the followers to believe in them, for the altans to
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: be able to go. We need to we need to leave.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: So that means the are I ascended before the ancients?
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: Is that what this is telling us the first ones
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: to do a lot.
• 32:58
  Speaker 5: I feel like that makes sense because the scene where
• 33:02
  Speaker 5: like the woman comes back to that guy who's fiddling
• 33:04
  Speaker 5: with the arc or the arc and he has his
• 33:06
  Speaker 5: journal open. He's like, oh, almost forgot my journal. It
• 33:09
  Speaker 5: shows he's drafting a stargate. Yeah, which means how the
• 33:13
  Speaker 5: hell do the Ori I have a stargate?
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: If he was just he's like, yeah, he's he's taken
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: that idea on the ship when they've gone to the
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: Milky Way Galaxy? Yeah, so how how did how does
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: the ore Galaxy have stargates and supergates?
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: Maybe they're actually never see we never we never see
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: an stargate, I mean presumably, but they have the rings. Yeah,
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: but we see in Supergate, So I mean, maybe is
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: the is the proto?
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: I mean in Beachhead we see we see the prior
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: come through the stargate in like in the Beachhead. But yeah,
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: I guess we don't know whether he's come direct from
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: the ore Galaxy or whether he's come from another planet.
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: In this galaxy, I guess barely.
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: Norah, I mean presumably. I mean I can use Robert C.
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: Cooper's later writing to justify his earlier writing. Is that
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: the canonical first gates are the Universe gates, which look different.
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: So the He's like, oh, I'm going to improve on
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: them with this design.
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: But do do I mean, you know Universe better than
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: anyone in this room. Do the Universe gates pre date
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: the opening of this episode?
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: In Universe? I think they never say, but it's over
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: millions of years old. They would have because they predate ascension.
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but that what I'm saying is do the the
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: or I also technically predate ascension because these Lanteans who
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: are leaving the galaxy, we presume I don't know how
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: to ascend yet or is that just me making an assumption.
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: I don't think they want to because they're the science people.
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: The godly people are the ones who are like, oh,
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: we can get power power.
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: Yes, that's what I'm saying. So so do we know
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: in Universe, like the seed ships and that kind of stuff,
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: did they leave from the Milky Way or did they
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: leave from the ore Galaxy?
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: I think they say the Milky Way.
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: So that means like this opening scene would have to
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: predate universe, right, it would have to predate that.
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: It doesn't make sense, but yeah, I guess so.
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, if these are the the Lanteans, these
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: are the first Lanteans to leave the ore Galaxy to
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: migrate to the to the Milky Way, then yeah, it
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: would have to predate universe, wouldn't it. So yeah, so
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: in terms of yeah, the knowledge of a stargate, and
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: like Brennan has said many times, like ascension apparently now
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: is locate like geography based in that you know, the
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: Ancients are allowed to be ascended in the Milky Way
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: and Pegasus galaxies, but the ore I are allowed to
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: be ascended in the ore Galaxy and never the two
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: shall meet. Yes, no, that's a very good point. I
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: wonder how and when the ore I got stargate technology.
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: But I know I was waiting for a big collective
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: we might I mean, we're going to do a collective
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: one of those at the end.
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: Of the Yeah, well, do we want to hear some
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: shooting on CREEPA I can do that now, Yes, all right,
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: I've got I've got a couple of little goodies here
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: for you. From the audio commentary, I.
• 36:24
  Speaker 8: Want to try and explain to people to a certain extent,
• 36:26
  Speaker 8: how much money equals time equals what the final picture
• 36:32
  Speaker 8: is on the screen.
• 36:33
  Speaker 7: And I'm not talking about visual effects or all of that.
• 36:36
  Speaker 8: I mean, I'm talking about whether the camera's moving right now,
• 36:39
  Speaker 8: you know, I'm talking about the size of the set, and.
• 36:42
  Speaker 7: Let the audience maybe where they don't necessarily it was
• 36:45
  Speaker 7: not obvious what money is perhaps spent on and what
• 36:48
  Speaker 7: the difference is when you do spend money in this
• 36:50
  Speaker 7: car sequence here, what shots do you do?
• 36:53
  Speaker 8: You do well, you can't get this shot if you
• 36:55
  Speaker 8: can't have a hole in the set where there you
• 36:58
  Speaker 8: know there was on the reverse there.
• 36:59
  Speaker 7: Was a that costs money. It cost time to put
• 37:02
  Speaker 7: a camera back there. And do the audiens already know
• 37:05
  Speaker 7: that this is inside a large building, this entire set.
• 37:08
  Speaker 8: This shot here, there was no wall there, I mean
• 37:11
  Speaker 8: that entire side. And that wasn't because oh we wanted
• 37:15
  Speaker 8: to do this shot with a great mountain. I mean,
• 37:17
  Speaker 8: yes we did, but we couldnt afford to build enough
• 37:20
  Speaker 8: set to make a four wall.
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: Alcohol bro you wrote it, You wrote that we dig
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: a thing up out of the ground. You can't then
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: complain that you can't afford to do it when you
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: wrote it broke. And the best part is this film
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: was a direct to DVD release. The only way you
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: could see it for the first time was on DVD,
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: which means it came with the audio commentary before anybody
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: had seen it. So he's already trying to defend it
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: before there's even been any discourse about it. Like, he knew,
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: he knew people weren't going to like it. He knew
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: he had a stinker, and he's trying to defend it.
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: To be fair, it is a valid point though that
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: like it is shot differently than the show. Yeah, it's
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: lit differently than the show. That's probably because they had
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: more money.
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: To do it. Yeah, apparently they had seven million dollars
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: to make this, and an average an average episode of
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: Stargate cost them two million dollars apparently from the from
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: what I've read, believe.
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: I believe it started at one point three for us
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: you want, and then Universe had three millions, so they
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: kept giving them more and more money as it went.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I guess inflation as well.
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: They had a lot of thefts.
• 38:34
  Speaker 5: Should have been better.
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: Well, I guess it was probably all the pay bumps
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: for all the all the writers and all that kind
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: of stuff and producers, but it is not.
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: I think there's been.
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: I mean, we're in the blockbuster season. I feel like
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: there's something big coming out every single week at the
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: cinemas at the moment. But like there was almost a
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: month period, this six week period where we had the
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: Joker sequel and.
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: Then we had.
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: Read one actually probably would have in another one, and
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: I think Wicked and god what else came out more recently. Anyway,
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: those three alone, Gladiator, I think all four of those
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: films were like two hundred and fifty million dollars. Gladiator
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: you can see it on screen, Red One you can
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: see it on screen either the actors, visual effects doesn't matter.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: You can kind of see where they're putting it. Wicked
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: you can see it on screen. Joker, I'm like that
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: was filmed in like three rooms. There's like almost no
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: visual effects. I mean, there is visual effects in everything,
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: but I don't know where you spend two hundred and
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: fifty million dollars. So, like when you said seven million,
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: I was like, holy shit, that's a lot of money
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: for this episode, especially when we're talking sixteen years ago.
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: But if every episode anyway cost about two it's like, oh,
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: that actually kind of makes sense.
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: This is this is two episodes as a time, and
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: it's like three and a half episodes worth of budget.
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: You've also got to remember there a lot of standing sets.
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like Cooper's winging about he's the one that wrote
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: we went back to Dakara. I mean, it doesn't make
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: sense to go back to Dakara because of the ancient
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: weapon and all that kind of stuff. But it's like, well,
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: we already have the SGC set, we have the Odyssey set,
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: we have the town sets, the village, So it's like,
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: what other you know, bits did you need? They did
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: shoot ship set probably yeah, yeah, they would have had
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: that millions yea, yeah, pre I mean, we'll get to
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: it later, but I feel like a lot of money
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: was wasted on replameric that didn't need to be the
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: terminator stuff. But apparently this was Apparently this was also
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: shot in eighteen days, so they they shoot a normal
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: episode of Stargate in seven or eight days for two
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: million dollars. They shot this, which is the equivalent of
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: what two and a half episodes maybe for seventy for
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: seven million dollars, and they shot it in eighteen days.
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: And for what anyone was even less?
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well less time filming.
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, holy hell, because I mean again for the physical
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: media putting this on DVD. The the prelude to the
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: to the menu to watch the Arc of Truth. The
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: Ark of the Truth was a little behind the scenes
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: snippet like teaser of Continuum. So before you even know
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: you're watching anything, there's snowmobiles going across you know, the
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: Arctic or wherever the hell they were shooting, and it's like,
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: you know, boom, all these actors wearing you know, their
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: Parkers and things, and it's like coming soon to DVD,
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: you know, Stargut Continuum, and it looks like this epic
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: movie that's being filmed and all these locations. So the
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: idea that they went and did I know, there's a
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: lot of pre production going on, but the idea they
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: went and did all that on top of everything else
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: that they film that I barely remember because I haven't
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: seen it in fifteen years.
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: That seems crazy.
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: We'll talk about it next week. But the first episode
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: of season four of Atlantis Adrift, Yeah, was directed by
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: Martin Wood. Yes, during production apparently he had to leave
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: to go to the Arctic to do some of the
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: shooting and pre production stuff.
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: Oh wait, that makes no sense with the length of
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: Carter's hair then, because.
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: I didn't want to say that, I didn't want to
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: lean on Ellen for that, but I'm like, she's the
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: only one that may have any kind of knowledge base
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: around that in terms of did like did Amanda Tapping
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: have hair extensions in or like that you could tell
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: was that her real hair or in this? Yeah?
• 42:13
  Speaker 5: An truth, Yeah, it looks like her real hair because
• 42:18
  Speaker 5: I've seen her with bad wigs and I've seen her.
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: With bad extensions, like remember remember when fifth when she
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: was like on the farm and she had those horrible
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: extensions that was so bad.
• 42:29
  Speaker 5: No, I don't think like would the military or like
• 42:32
  Speaker 5: would she be allowed to have long hair, because I
• 42:34
  Speaker 5: solid braided.
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: And yeah, I'm pretty sure the long hair was Amanda's
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: choice because she was sick of like she had to
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: have her hair cut short for ten years the show's
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: canc She's like, I can finally grow my hair out,
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: and then they do in these movies, And I'm fairly
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: certain Amanda Tapping said no, I'm not cutting my hair
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: again for this. But yeah, I've never understood the time.
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: The time like that's the only sort of anachronism that
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: I can find in this timeline wise, is Yeah, the
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: time between unending and now is how did Carter grow
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: her hair? Because apparently too, someone said in the in
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: some of the trivia, I I don't know if I
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: believe it or not, but this they said technically takes
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: place before the last episode of last season of Atlantis
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: First Strike. Huh, because because they said this is actually
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: technically the first chronological appearance of Colonel Ellis and the
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: Apollo where he has that quick moment on the screen. Yeah,
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: they're saying that takes that takes place before First Strike.
• 43:35
  Speaker 5: Wait, so there's another continuity thing. I need to ask
• 43:38
  Speaker 5: you guys about that. Yeah, because in truth, someone he's
• 43:42
  Speaker 5: like an extra or whatever, but he they reference O'Neill
• 43:46
  Speaker 5: and he says Colonel O'Neill. But oh, the timeline is correct,
• 43:51
  Speaker 5: then it should have been general. He's been general long time.
• 43:55
  Speaker 5: But they said colonel, so are they just was it
• 43:57
  Speaker 5: a goof or was it like, are we And this
• 44:00
  Speaker 5: is totally.
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: I didn't I didn't notice that do you do you
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: can you remember where it was?
• 44:05
  Speaker 5: Oh, I'm not good with timestamps.
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean for the scene was the only thing.
• 44:10
  Speaker 5: It was when they were back in the and they
• 44:13
  Speaker 5: were back at Shia Mountain.
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: Okay, So the only thing I can think of is,
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: I mean, maybe unless they were referring to an event
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: that happened when he was, oh maybe a colonel, like
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: when when Colonel O'Neill had the Ancient Repository downloaded into
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: his brain. I feel like you could get away with
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: saying that because he was a colonel at the time.
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: But yeah, otherwise you're right, that is a complete stuff up.
• 44:37
  Speaker 5: Like I mean, honestly, I kind of was just kind
• 44:39
  Speaker 5: of like, you know, we're rush watching this, Yeah, and
• 44:42
  Speaker 5: then I just heard that word colonel, and I was likeing, like.
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: God, you're gonna make me rewatch it when I get
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: home now and see if I can find that. That's
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: that's that's a good get Well.
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: The name the reference that got me was when I
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: think it was when Marrek he was when he was
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: introduced in in Landry's office and did Mitchell ask or
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: it came up something about Woolsey Woolsey and he is
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: on and he's too busy with the Atlanta's mission, and
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: I'm like, well, I know that he comes into Atlanta's
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: at some point. I don't know how or why. I've
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: seen DVD covers or I've seen pictures, I know nothing.
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: And when I know nothing about Atlantis.
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: Season four and five, but when they yeah, well yeah.
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: So knowing I don't know him very much. But all
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: of a sudden, I'm like, do I need to text
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: Matt and go which one should I watch first? Because
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: I thought we were talking Ark of Truth and then
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: we're supposed to watch a drift. But maybe if I
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: watched it the other way around, that reference would make
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: sense because he's all of that sudden.
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: From what I remember, I do think like even though
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: arka of Truth is set right after Unnending, it didn't
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: come out till maybe between season four and five of Atlantis.
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: I think it took him a while. Obviously was anything
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: shot it in a teen days, but it took a
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: lot of postsprit.
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: Up right, But chronologically speaking, like this is where all
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: the lists tell you is that you're supposed to watch this, yes,
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: prior to watching seasons, which I mean because myself doesn't
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: make a lot of sense, considering they are very much
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: as Cliffhanger arounding, we're going to pick up when we
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: left off.
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: But I get what you mean.
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I because when I heard them reference Woolsey, that
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: was my other thing, because I know what happens in
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: season four and five of Atlantis, and I was like, oh,
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: so the only thing in my brain that I think
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: buys it back is obviously if Woolsey had been the
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: one that was here to do this, then they he
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: would have been replamatic, like, because we needed Marek to
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: be the bad guy who was going to be turned
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: into a replicator and then killed. They didn't want to
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: kill off Woolsey, so they just went, oh, he's busy
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: on Atlantis.
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: Which I feel like because of the quote unquote turn
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: which is referenced on the synopsis in the back of
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: the So I read that after I watched it, because
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: again I haven't seen this in fifteen sixteen years, I
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: forgot almost everything I knew it had to do with
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: the Ari and that's it. When the replicators showed up,
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: I was shocked. But when like Marreck comes up, it's like, oh, hey,
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: where's Wolsey. It could have almost been a bit of oh,
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: you know, no, it's it's I'm representing them now because
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: he is part of I know that the I Away
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: and all the different factions along the way that we've
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: had with the trust and all that ss of the stuff.
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: But he could have been his own little like, no,
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: we need to we're going to be there to make
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: the call when it needs to be made. Someone like Woolsey,
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: he's more open to listening to the SGC because he's
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: been here when some ships went down and as well, yeah,
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: he's messed up exactly. So he's been against them in
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: the past, but then he's actually lived through some of
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: their ship and he's actually, I think I need to
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: give you a little bit more leniency with making your
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: own decisions outside of what the military would expect, because
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: this is yeah, whereas this guy comes along with no, no, no,
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: Like even the fact that he's sitting down opposite Tome
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: and having like an interrogation like this is all I
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: can imagine.
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: This would be foreign to this guy.
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: And that's how we were introduced to Wolsey. Remember back
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: in Heroes or whatever it was, Wolsey had the same thing.
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: He said that I feel like that's that's the trope
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: with but it's just like the common factor with the
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: Ioway and that kind of stuff is there so up
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: their own asses and think they know better because they're
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: just reading the reports afterward having hindsight. And this goes
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: to my conversation with with Brendan about Weir and all
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: that kind of stuff. They think they know better about everything,
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: but they're not there. They don't have any real world experience.
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: And if you notice, the more real world experience Wolvesey
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: gets with the Stargate program, the more he softens and
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: realizes that these people are actually doing incredibly amazing things.
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so yeah, I do.
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: I do like that, but yeah, let's talk about it.
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: Does everyone feel about the replicators being back?
• 48:38
  Speaker 6: Ah?
• 48:41
  Speaker 5: I think it was kind of it was creative playing
• 48:46
  Speaker 5: Devil's Advocate. I see why Merrik did that, or like
• 48:49
  Speaker 5: the IOWA because it's like, yeah, I guess in a
• 48:51
  Speaker 5: world where there was zero hope and it was they
• 48:54
  Speaker 5: were gonna all die. Yeah, one last few is like
• 48:57
  Speaker 5: putting the replicators on the ri ships.
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and again because he doesn't have real world experience,
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: and like, I think it's maybe Mitchell pulls him up
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: on it and says, well, once they're done with the
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: our galaxy, they're coming back here.
• 49:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: But because Marek hasn't had that experience, he doesn't think
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: about that. He just thinks about, yeah, you're right over
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: the ara.
• 49:16
  Speaker 4: If he ever had if he'd ever encountered them before,
• 49:19
  Speaker 4: like if he'd actually had to deal with them, he
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: wouldn't have done it.
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: Yet.
• 49:22
  Speaker 4: They needed a new guy who was like gullible enough
• 49:25
  Speaker 4: to believe that. They were like, this is our master
• 49:29
  Speaker 4: plan and you're gonna do it, and he's like okay.
• 49:32
  Speaker 4: They needed him to not have the previous experience, otherwise
• 49:36
  Speaker 4: he would have been too scared of them. Yeah.
• 49:38
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a good way of looking at it. But
• 49:40
  Speaker 5: I honestly, like at the end when they're finding when
• 49:42
  Speaker 5: he's finding Mitchell and then he takes that thing out
• 49:44
  Speaker 5: of his neck and so for a second he's back
• 49:46
  Speaker 5: to himself and he's like kill me. I don't feel
• 49:48
  Speaker 5: bad for him, honestly, I don't. I feel like they
• 49:50
  Speaker 5: were trying to, like maybe Cooper was trying to get
• 49:52
  Speaker 5: us to like feel bad for Marek, but I was
• 49:54
  Speaker 5: just kind of like, you, dude, yeah, you like, what
• 49:56
  Speaker 5: did you think was gonna happen.
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: Yes, it's kind of.
• 50:00
  Speaker 5: Not like you didn't know what a replicator was, like
• 50:02
  Speaker 5: you read the reports.
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: Me being the petty person, I am, whould just be
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: like I told you so, yeah, like yes, yes, yes, yes,
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: blah blah blah, and then blow him up.
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: We see those sort of characters pop up a lot,
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: like you know, so like the Alien franchise, and you
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: know they they send in someone going oh no, I
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: will just handle things a little bit different, like no, no, no, you.
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: Guys, you don't understand what. Nah, We'll be fine.
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: And then of course those people get messed up and
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: you never you're cheering for the monster at that point.
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: And yeah, like we've had so many problems with the
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: replicators along the years. But I think because I didn't
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: remember it, and because it was very quickly since they
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: pop up, you realize, oh, this is a bad idea.
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: I did feel this, this moment of fear for them.
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh no, it wasn't like, oh God,
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: the replicator is a back like Cooper had the he
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: makes his movie and he brings his bloody replicated back.
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: But I'm like, no, I this is such a bad idea.
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: Holy shit, No, bro, and that he kept pushing for it,
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: and then he releases it and he's like, yeah, well,
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: I mean, even if we do have to sacrifice ourselves
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: and this ship for the greater mission, oh, so be it,
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: because it's definitely going to work. So I don't like
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: the idea that they had to go back and rely
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: on them. But at the same time, I don't think
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: I hated it the way it was done.
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the the Replicators themselves and that whole
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: thing where like that random sort of tactical team set
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: the ground and shoot, that was boring as hell to me,
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: but at least by the whole replematic thing, that was
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: technically something fresh. We've never seen replicators do that before.
• 51:40
  Speaker 4: Guys. Guys, guys, guys.
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: A human bug, A terminator, A terminator bug. We're going
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: to do a terminator bug. Apparently, though, this was an
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: idea they had back in the end of season four
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: or five, when the Replicators killed the Pofus the final
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: time for a split moment. Apparently they had the idea
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: of having the Replicators takeover slash augment Apofus's body. Ah,
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: and then they realized then they realized, oh, we've kind
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: of already done that because by that point Apofus had
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: that kind of metal plate in his head and all
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: that kind they went, oh, well, how are we going
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: to make him look physically different enough for it to
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: but imagine imagine that plate on Apofus's head being actually
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: like replicator blocks or something like that, Like that could
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: be kind of cool.
• 52:37
  Speaker 4: But yeah, it was.
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: It was very much a repeat. And then obviously the
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: other huge repeat, which is the thing that I think
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: is it's my most favorite and least favorite moment of
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: this movie is when Morgan shows up and fights Adria.
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: That is just a complete knockoff of the Omen Desala
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: and Fat and Fat Anubis fight in the diner.
• 53:02
  Speaker 4: Play the Alicia.
• 53:09
  Speaker 5: I feel like, am I good at predicting things? Or
• 53:11
  Speaker 5: is it just this show is not very you know,
• 53:14
  Speaker 5: it's very predictable.
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Like it's just like, oh what, so we're like
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: like the Oma de Sala and and Anubis diner stuff
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: is some of my fa Like Threads is one of
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: my favorite episodes of all of Stargate, and I love
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: that and that's what made me really fall in love
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: with Omad Sala was all that kind of stuff. So
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: I'll have the salad, So to have them sort of
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: rehash this, I was conflicted. But also, obviously I love
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: Marina Backeran from her Firefly days, and I love Sarah Strange,
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: so I've seen her and some other stuff. She's in
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: some of my other sort of favorite short lived TV shows. Obviously,
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: she was in Pegasus Project, which is one of my
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: favorite episodes as well. And this lined livery is just
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: it's empowering and it's petty and it's powerful, and I
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: love it so much and it's what makes it my
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: favorite moment. I remember watching this show, this movie for
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: the first time and loving this moment, and it wasn't
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: until later that I realized it was just a rehash
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: of threads. But this line delivery sells it for me.
• 54:22
  Speaker 5: You imagine me, I am not.
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: Just this slight snarl in her lips the way she
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: delivers that, I am. Now, I'm just like, yeah, mocking
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: the fae this shit up. Yeah.
• 54:40
  Speaker 5: I mean, it's predictable, but it's enjoyable. Like I'm not like,
• 54:44
  Speaker 5: oh no, here we go again. I'm just kind of
• 54:47
  Speaker 5: just like, oh, okay, they have no creativity, but at
• 54:49
  Speaker 5: least it's executed in a decent fashion.
• 54:52
  Speaker 9: Yeah, it's the greatest hits, but it is the biggest
• 54:56
  Speaker 9: pet peeve I have in this movie is with Mitchell, because,
• 55:00
  Speaker 9: like with Mark, it's so clear from like the first
• 55:03
  Speaker 9: time you see his face, he just has a very
• 55:05
  Speaker 9: punishable face, but then also like you just know he's
• 55:08
  Speaker 9: up to something.
• 55:08
  Speaker 5: And then later Mitchell says a line he's like, so
• 55:12
  Speaker 5: that was your plan, which his delivery of it tells
• 55:15
  Speaker 5: me that Mitchell was sess of him this whole time.
• 55:17
  Speaker 5: And I'm like, why don't they put twenty four like
• 55:20
  Speaker 5: you know, twenty four seven eyes on him, like they
• 55:22
  Speaker 5: know he's gonna be up to something and know he's
• 55:24
  Speaker 5: just free to wander the odyssey or whatever.
• 55:27
  Speaker 4: I can confine him to quarters. And then was like
• 55:30
  Speaker 4: if he's so desire or whatever he said, So that
• 55:32
  Speaker 4: bothers me.
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: So I'm like, just do it, you know, Yeah, no,
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: you're right, you're right, absolutely right. But you know it's
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: Cooper and he's writing is terrible and he's wrong because, uh,
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: in the audio commentary, he said he doesn't even remember
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: his own show. That's why what makes me think that
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: he doesn't know he's repeating things because he doesn't even
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: know the show that he runs his story.
• 55:58
  Speaker 8: I think that they're there are some really seminal moments
• 56:02
  Speaker 8: for each of the characters throughout this story, and that
• 56:04
  Speaker 8: was that was something else that I felt would hopefully
• 56:08
  Speaker 8: make this feel like a movie more so than just
• 56:12
  Speaker 8: an average big episode of the series. There there's a
• 56:16
  Speaker 8: lot a lot of people will say, oh, you just try.
• 56:17
  Speaker 8: You tried to cramp too much into one small hour
• 56:20
  Speaker 8: and a half. You know, it's just not there's not
• 56:23
  Speaker 8: enough time to do to do everything.
• 56:24
  Speaker 7: You want to do.
• 56:25
  Speaker 8: But at the same time, those moments, when you see
• 56:28
  Speaker 8: them all jammy like, they hopefully have more impact, you
• 56:30
  Speaker 8: know what I mean, Like, oh my god, we just
• 56:32
  Speaker 8: killed a prior. We never in the series have you
• 56:35
  Speaker 8: seen a prior killed. That's a big moment for us.
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: Exactly if anyone remembers the eleventh episode of The oor
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: i Ark Season nine, episode eleven, The Fourth Horseman, Part two,
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: this is the recipe for the not even a pie crust, Yeah,
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: not even a park crust. We killed that prior.
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: That's what I thought.
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: We killed that priore the eleventh episode after meeting the
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: or the eleventh episode of The or i Ark out
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: of out of forty we killed the prior. It was
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: it was in the two part the season finale, the
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: mid the mid season finale stuff. We killed that prior.
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: We killed him on on the the Soden planet.
• 57:13
  Speaker 3: We killed him dead.
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: He's dead, so like Cuba, can he make a pist
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: if he's dead? He was a pie crest if he's dead.
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: And then I did love seeing the prior at the
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: start get killed because that's obviously the prior from like
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: the very start. So it's really sad the priors to yeah, yeah,
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: what do you mean my.
• 57:31
  Speaker 4: Best Well, I mean like he's the most interesting because
• 57:34
  Speaker 4: you saw him before he was a prior, when he
• 57:35
  Speaker 4: was just that, like you know.
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: I feel like he's the most hateable as well, like
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: you because he's just so belligerent and and he really
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: believes like he's.
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because he was before he became a prior. And
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: then afterwards and you're like fanatic, yeah, fanatical, and they've
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: fanatical with powers.
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: But then there, but then there was a weird moment
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: at the end when the ark is opened and we
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: do the cut around to all the priors looking into
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: their glowing stars. There's a shot of the four ari
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: I ships that are that are firing on the Odyssey.
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: It cuts inside one of them to one of the
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: priors sitting like in the in the command chair or whatever,
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: and it looks like that guy from like the side profile.
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: It looks like and it could just it could just
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: be he that was they used the guy's stand in
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: just for that one shot or they just conveniently sort
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: of looked similar, but I'm hoping it's not the same
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: the same prior and they managed to like bring him
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: back to life on Dakar or something.
• 58:36
  Speaker 4: On that scene. How about round of applause to Jerry
• 58:40
  Speaker 4: Goldsmith for the music and that scene. It's just like
• 58:43
  Speaker 4: Majestic and.
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: The combinations.
• 58:48
  Speaker 4: They used a real orchestra for this instead of just
• 58:50
  Speaker 4: the because you.
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: Can totally tell it was just Yeah, normally Jerry's just
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: stuck with just like he's just got a keyboard and
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: just like okay, I'll switch it over to the trombone
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: and now I'll switch over to the violin sounds.
• 59:01
  Speaker 4: And so yeah, we're in that predictable piano like the dirt.
• 59:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, that prior was was I like the pride
• 59:11
  Speaker 5: with the eye that's offed up, But yeah, I like
• 59:14
  Speaker 5: that because general I call him laundry that I forget
• 59:17
  Speaker 5: that room when he's just like, go ahead and light
• 59:22
  Speaker 5: yourself on fire.
• 59:25
  Speaker 4: The whole movie.
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I did notice that the prior seemed to have
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: less face stuff this time, less of like the markings
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: and the bits and pieces this time.
• 59:34
  Speaker 3: I noticed.
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: I guess Cooper just going to afford it because he
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: keeps putting budget properly.
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: So yeah, and obviously that prior come back from the start,
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: but also I forget the character's name or what his
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: role is, but yeah, Julian Sands and him coming back,
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: and then like he obviously gets some stuff to say
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: during but then at the end where the ark gets
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: opened in front of him and he sees the light
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: and he says nothing after he just cries, and I'm like,
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: holy shit, that's actually that's I think that's so much
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: more powerful, the idea that like he he's been overseeing
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: so much more stuff than any random Pride or Toman
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: felt bad until came to have it one on one
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: with him. And we feel that because we saw Toman
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: kind of before he really got involved, but we knew
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: that he'd always believed in stuff or whatever. But this
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: guy has been there since well maybe not day dot,
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: but he's been there a long time. And then the
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: Pope just sitting there just thinking of the millions of
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: lives that he's probably ended, and that he will never
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: be able to let that.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 8: Like I don't know.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: I love that he's always been so stiff and obviously
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: because he can't walk because of that weird stud.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 3: He keeps that though, like you know, well with us no,
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 3: well maybe not the actor.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 4: But you know, I was just gonna make a joke.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 4: All you could do is like take a walk and
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 4: then no, oh my.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: God, yep. What I did love though, is he's so
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: uh presentation and fearful and strong. The way he walks,
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: everything's with purpose and he's you know. But then when
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: Aria shows up, the just the way he drops to
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: the ground, just with the weight and the quickness that
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: he is so quick to get on his knees in
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: front of her. I found that really powerful.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 3: I was like, whoa, I mean, anyone in this room
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 3: who wouldn't.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: Well, that's more Marenda backer and things.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: That's exactly what I'm saying my religions. Miranda Backeran walks
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: in the room burning sensation is not going.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: To stuff you, is it?
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 5: I think it's really interesting, Like how Adria, even though
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 5: she's like this all powerful, all the Oriye power got
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 5: transferred to her, how she still like won't kill Valla. Yeah,
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 5: like you know, it's at the end of the day,
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 5: it's her, it's her mom mom.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 8: But I don't know.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 5: I feel like if I don't know, I think she's
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 5: so far off the cliff. I'm surprised she didn't just
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 5: end her because every single time she's let her go,
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 5: it ended up being really bad for her, Like the
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 5: humans will up anything that she was doing.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: So I was curious about the logistics there because it's
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: like we quote n Well Daniel and well the team
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: quote unquote killed the or I a couple of episodes
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: like that was back in the Shroud, and then it
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: wasn't until Dominion, so and we know the or I
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: were killed, So it wasn't until Dominion that that Adria ascended.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: So where was all that power in the meantime? So
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: it's like, was there just there was no ori I
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: for a couple of months or something like that. What
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: happened to that power? Is it just sitting there waiting
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: for her to be claimed or was it did it disappear,
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: and then only by her ascending did was she able
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: to go and claim it based based on the belief
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: of all the people in that galaxy, because remember she
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: ascended in our galaxy as well. So yeah, so there
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: was a lot of questions there. I had probably better
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: that they went unanswered and you just kind of accept
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: it for what it is.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 4: But all I'm saying is, if you get a Ferrari,
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 4: you're gonna you're gonna take a while before you're confident
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 4: enough to drive it really really fast.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: True.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 3: True, she would have wait until Carter's hair grows out
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 3: before she gets and mess her right up.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: The only other thing I wanted to mention is Mitchie
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: referenced before about the little preview you saw for Continue Continuum.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: In the audio commentary or maybe some trivia somewhere, they
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: mentioned that apparently there was going to be a post
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: credits scene in Arc of Truth and it was actually
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: going to be the Tokrah calling suc and saying we
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: have the last bar come, and.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 4: That would have made so much sense, Like that's why
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 4: then didn't do it?
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: Tie yet?
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: Well his excuse was, oh, the show already had too
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: many endings.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 5: We don't have enough money.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's more like I didn't rate that one.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: So Ellen, have you seen Continuum? No?
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, sweet see, I'm I've went I've went into
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: this or looking ahead to ARCA of Truth and the
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: Arc of Truth knowing about that and Continuum, knowing that
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: I love Continuum so much more than the Arc of Truth. Yes,
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: And then I watched The Arc of Truth last night,
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: and I think maybe because I've watched it so close
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: to watching SG one season ten, which maybe I didn't
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: when it first came out. By the time we got
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: that DVD on our shelves in Australia, it might have
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: been a year two years since i'd seen season ten,
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: So it was like, ah, that was a bit. It
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: was just the same stories last time, but like the
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: next ending as opposed to Continuum, which is something completely
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: different than the area story. So I know that i've
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: I've really live that and because of the other element.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: And I won't go into exactly what makes Continuum continuum
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: for Ellen, but yeah, I'm excited though, because I liked
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: the Arc of Truth watching it last night more than
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: I remember liking it. So I hopefully come to watch Continuum.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: I hope I get that again. Yeah, I hope they
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: don't meet in the middle byking the Arc of Truth
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: more and lacking Continuum less.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I remember.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 3: I remember.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: I was definitely in a minority because I remember because
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: they came out within a few months of each other.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: I think Ark of Truth and Continuum I can't quite remember,
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: but I do remember after watching Arc of Truth the
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: first time, really really enjoying it because it gave me
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: the closure to the are I storyline that I didn't
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: And then I watched Continuum and I was like, oh,
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: it's just like another episode of the Week type thing.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: You're right, actually six months Well, I've got initial release
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: eleventh of March two thousand and eight for the Arc
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: of Truth and twenty ninth of July two thousand.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 3: And eight for Continue. Say the first one again, the
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 3: eleventh of March.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, two thousand and eight.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, both two thousand and eight, and second one just
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: after that anniversary of SG one.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: That's a full year after Unending, I've got down. Unending's
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: original airing date was the thirteenth of March two thousand
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: and seven.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, interesting, that makes it because it feels it
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: feels like it's like closer to that, right, like in
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: a story aside from then them saying, oh, this takes
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: place before.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: So that I mean that does explain Carter's hair. Yeah,
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: she she had time to do it. But yeah, so
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: I remember liking Ark of Truth more the first time
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: I saw it then the first time I saw Continuum,
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: But the more I watched them both, the more I
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: enjoyed Continuum. And yeah, Ellen, just so you've got some
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: Just so you've got some context without spoilers, is the
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: premise of Continuum is the tokracall SG one and say
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: we found the last ball, come and watch just kill
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: him and then hilarity, Like then the story goes from there.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 5: So that's that's kind of that was supposed to be
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 5: the end credit.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: That was going to be the post credit scene.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 4: We just never see it and then it's like, oh,
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 4: and then we just have to catch up to them, like, oh,
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 4: we're on our way to go, you know. But see,
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 4: what I think is going to happen is since we
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 4: have to watch all of season four of Atlantis before
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 4: we get to that in the continuity, I think then
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 4: what's going to happen after that is you're going to
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 4: be like you're going to be like, oh, time to
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 4: watch Continuum now, and then you're like, oh, these are
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 4: my characters again.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's going to.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 4: Be exciting and fun, you know, because there's that gap
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 4: where there might not have been as much you know.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I wish they kept that end credit scene in there,
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 5: because like, that was one of my questions I had
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 5: for Jacob when we finish. I was like, well, what
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 5: the happened to Ball? Yeah, So I hope Continuum addresses.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 4: Some of that. It's not the only time they do that,
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 4: because they apparently can the scene that would have set
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 4: up Universe really yeah, they were like, hey, we found
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 4: in the Atlantis database, we found the ninth Chevron.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: That would make sense because, yeah, I found the first
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: time I watched Universe, especially for those first few episodes,
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: you're like you're playing catch up, you going what is
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: this thing? What is this planet? What is this thing?
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 2: What is this element? What is you know, all these
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: kind of things. So yeah, yeah, a little bit more
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: context would have been good.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 3: Now that I'm just googling stuff.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: Thank you, Holly, I've found something which I genuinely I
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: knew that We talked about the fact they wanted to
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: keep doing movies. Yeah, I know nothing about beyond Stargate Continuum.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: So as I've googled the release dates for the Arc
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: of Truth and Continuum, it comes up twenty ten Stargate Revolution.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, what's that? And it opens up and
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: it talks about what the third film would have been.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: Well, see you and before before you get into.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: But I won't go into too many details because Ellen
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: hasn't seen Continuum.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 3: But it's already and very angry that we didn't get this.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: Before you say, I remember you and I Back in
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: twenty thirteen or twenty fourteen, we got to interview Joe
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: Flanagan when he came here for a con con for
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: Super and he told us the third movie was going
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: to be a Atlantis move movie, and it was going
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: to be and it was going to be called Extinction,
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: and it was going to be the wrap up of
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: the Atlanta Store of the Atlantis story. Huh post post
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: Enemy at the Gate.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: Maybe they maybe they shelved this idea and then had
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: a new idea for a third Give it to me.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: I've not heard. Was it Revolution?
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 3: Stargate Revolution? Yeah, yeah, I create.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: Are you able to read spoiling anything for ellen.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: Other than just people. But you know, I mean, just
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: block your ears for a second if if you don't
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: want to potential Okay, fair enough, that's true. I mean
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: I haven't seen universe, so I don't know what you
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: could possibly mean. But at the same time, Stargate Revolution,
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: previously known as Project Terzo, was the production name of
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: the third movie based in the SG one series, which
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: had been announced by Joseph Malotzi on his weblog. It
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: was to be written by Brad Wright and Carl Binder
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: and would have been directed by Martin Wood. A preliminary
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: beat sheet in vert of Commerce had been put by
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: Carl Binder. Now Richard Dean Anderson Ameda Tapping, Christopher Judge
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: and Michael Shanks were a star in the film. According
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: to Right, the film would have centered on the Jack
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: O'Neil character. Claudia Black would not have returned as Vallomort
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: Malduran and Ben Browner and bow Bridges were not approached.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: Sargate Revolution has been shelved indefinitely since obviously old language
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: being used from at the time that it has rather
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: than had and they never picked it up. But yeah,
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: the idea of that because I've I think I've spoken.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 3: To you guys before.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: We've all thought about different ideas of how they could
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: bring back Stargate, Like what could they what could it
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: be about? You know, it would it be more of
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: an SGC thing like Season nine and ten were supposed
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: to be, or you know, would it be a soft
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: free boot. Would it be just a direct sequel in
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: the sense that we pick it up and it's like
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: nothing's ever changed or whatever. But I always had an
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: idea of it'd probably be more of an episode, but
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: it was like it would have been a real dark
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: sort of story for O'Neil, but it would have been
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: very much about him and the idea that maybe you know,
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: he got to some point where has it all been
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: worth it? Had they made enough of a difference or something,
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: and that you know, not necessarily an ancient, but some
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: some being that.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 3: Has this you know, has uber power in the universe.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: Or whatever, basically would take him back and show what
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: things would have been like without him, and that everything
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: in his life had to happen the way that it
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: did happen, Otherwise, you know, Earth would have been messed
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: up because it would have messed with his place in it.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: And I don't know what was so dark about my
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: thoughts at the time, but the idea that he would
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: be there standing outside the house knowing that his son
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: was inside about to pick up a handgun and accidentally
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: and that he would have to allow that to happen
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: so that the earth would be saved, and it would
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: never happen. They would never do it. And I don't
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: want to see Richard Dean Anderson. I wouldn't have liked
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: to have seen him have to have, you know, acted
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: through that.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: But I'm just like, yeah, let's let's just stick with
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 2: there's no fish in or this fish in the point right.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 3: I don't know what was going through my head. I've
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 3: honestly had that thought.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 4: Of Christmas story or a Christmas carroc.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: Like, and I can, I can before anyone's legitimately goes
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: I'm just you know, plagiarizing. So I've never I mean,
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: I would have seen there's a thousand different Christmas movies
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: that have been ripped off that classic.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 2: That would that would mean Sophie's choice looks like a
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: wrong fe I.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 3: Don't know why.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: I don't know why I've ever thought, but it would
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: have been more of an episode right that, like at
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: the end of the episode, he's still sitting at his desk.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: He sort of wakes up, comes to from what he
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: thinks is almost like a vision, and he's a little
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: bit more like, you know, not it doesn't change because
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: it's O'Neil, but he's almost like just that two percent
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: more satisfied with his place and his efforts, knowing that, yeah,
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: we're still fighting the Gould or we're still fighting the Ari,
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: depending on when this would have taken place, going, yeah,
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: but we're still here doing it.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 3: That's the point.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: And you know what, I'm still here and I'm still
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: making the choices that I believe are right. And I'm
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: only here doing that because of these awful things that
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: have happened, and no, we can't change them. We've had
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: time travel and we've learned that we can't mess with it.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: But even if I would have just taken myself out
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: of the equation early on all those bad things and
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: I get to save Charlie, well then the world's end
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: like three years later when we get to Abidos and
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: I'm not there to make that particular call. Some other
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: some other colonel was and he's not me yeah, I
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: don't know.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: I'll have to mention it because otherwise people will clicking
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: into my dms. But there is an episode of the
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: original series, The Wind Window, The Journey, The Edge of
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 2: Forever whatever, where yeah, Kirk and Spoco back in time,
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 2: he falls in love with this woman and has to
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: let her get hit by a car or something like that. So,
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 2: but yours is way darker because it's like watching your
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 2: son off himself with your gun.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: We don't have to watch it, but well it happens, like, hey,
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: you can walk inside and stop this from happening. And
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: again that's honestly, that's it's disgusting.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 2: But well, just because you know, like and Jack would
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 2: know how it affected him, because it's like in the
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 2: film we see how broken of a man Kurt Russell
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 2: is because of that. So do you imagine having to
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 2: let that happen, knowing the psychological toll it would take,
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 2: Like you've already lived that.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 3: Part and his wife like they still very much like
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 3: they loved each other.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: We saw that episode that they loved each other, they
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: just couldn't be with each other because of that history.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 3: So off, Yeah, well really brought it down to the
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 3: end of all list.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 2: Well, bring it up ready with the last thing that
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 2: the trifecta. I guess of what of what Cooper tried
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 2: to redo again in this episode of this movie Macaroon?
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 3: I know that was one of those things. Did you could?
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: You could absolutely predict that as soon as she brings
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: a box and I'm like, oh, yeah, it's gonna be macaron.
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Leo Leonardo DiCaprio mean yeah, I thought this is
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 2: gonna be Yeah. How do you feel, like, yeah, how
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: do you feel about the kiss? Well, he'd be confused
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 2: because he'd want a macaron. Yeah, that'd be the problem.
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 2: How do you wait?
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 5: Who says math? Who says it?
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: No?
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 4: No, No, they had a fight because they do know
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 4: the difference between the man they didn't because yeah, because
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 4: we went because.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 2: They didn't know the difference between you'll have to watch
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 2: what was episode? Was it? Was it Bounty?
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 6: Yeah?
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: Maybe, yeah, you'll have to listen because I had to
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 2: teach I had to teach mentioned Brendan the difference between
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 2: a macaroon and a macaro on.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 3: They didn't know, no, because they're poor education, right man?
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah they did, they didn't. They knew macaron because that's
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 2: quite common here. But macaroons aren't very common here, so
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 2: they just thought that was our pronunciation of it, because
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 2: we also pronounced maron maroon or the no maroon maron,
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 2: so that that's kind of where their brains went. Oh
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 2: got it?
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 5: Okay, well, I guess that makes sense.
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 2: The former president I brought in some macarons? Did I
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 2: bring in some macarons? But did I just bring in
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 2: those those coconut macaroons?
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 3: I don't remember. I still don't remember the difference, mate.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 2: So macaroons a coconut, right and with chocolate, and then
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 2: macarns are like the little French puffy ones with the
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 2: creamy stuff.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 3: They're the ones I'm familiar with.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, blah yeah, you.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 3: Just throw it in anyway, I am.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 2: Due.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 5: Did you know she's a she's a lefty? But then
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 5: so her watch in Oatruth is on her right hand,
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 5: which means she's a lefty.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 2: I've never noticed that.
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 5: But her hair clip is put on her left side,
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 5: which is you usually use your opposite hand to put
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 5: it on. So I'm like, is she ready? Is she
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 5: a lefty? Because then when she's using the gun, she's
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 5: she's alrighty.
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 2: Well, I she could be like me, could be in
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 2: Australian that I don't because I'm predominantly right. I'm a
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 2: little bit ambidexterous, Like I can play pool left handed
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 2: or right handed, but I right.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 4: That was my dog.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 2: Well, it depends on the size if I need both
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 2: hands or not.
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: You guys didn't have to fill in for Brandan in
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  Speaker 1: all aspects today, like all the filter jokes have come
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: from from your corner.
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  Speaker 2: I right right handed. I eat left handed, but I
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  Speaker 2: wear my watch on my right hand, even though I
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: write with my right hand as well.
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  Speaker 5: Oh well, we talked about We talked about this when
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 5: you were here, Matt, because didn't you tell me I
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  Speaker 5: eat wrong?
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  Speaker 2: Like I what's wrong? No, no, not wrong. I just
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 2: said she eats left handed and she's like, no, I don't.
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  Speaker 2: Because I had to teach you the between left handed writing,
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 2: eating and right handed eating.
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  Speaker 4: We had to teach you the difference between left hand
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 4: driving and right hand driving as well.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you guys do it wrong. The rest of the world.
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  Speaker 4: We're literally on the right side of the road. Literally.
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 2: Hey, but as as as we were taught in Avalon,
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  Speaker 2: the word for correct doesn't isn't the same word as
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 2: the opposite of left.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, but the ancient thought the word was ironic.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you can do whatever you like, you guys. You
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 2: guys still write your date wrong and you still use
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 2: the imperial system, so you know, you guys areway.
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  Speaker 4: B imperial system isn't all bad.
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  Speaker 5: It is.
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  Speaker 2: Come on, midgw my.
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  Speaker 1: When he said that, oh yeah, sorry, I was ready
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  Speaker 1: to go. Made can say these things because he's half American,
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: So it's fine. I'm not getting involved in culture wars.
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 2: That's it, all right, Thank you, guys, Thank you appreciated.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 3: I mean, not for the last time. We'll be back obviously.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the band is there now for a I mean,
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: we took two hundred and seventy episodes to have the
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: lady explanation of the hair Like you said, oh, she
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: wears a watch here, but her hair things over here,
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: and you wouldn't do that. That's the equivalent of Maddie
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: when he looked at Carter's kitchen went well, you wouldn't
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: put a fridge there because we had a free we
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 1: had free a kitchen design expert on to explain what
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 1: the rest of us naughties wouldn't see. Microwave and Ellen
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: comes on and goes hang on, if she is a lefty,
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: she wouldn't actually put her thing in the hair. I'm like, no,
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: none of us would have picked that up. This is
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: the sort of expertise that we're getting for having you
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: guys on. So yeah, we'll get this on again.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 2: It will feel free. Guys. Let us know. If there's
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 2: any Atlantis episodes you want to jump in on, let
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 2: us know. And otherwise maybe unless it lets Brendan or
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 2: Lincoln try and steal it from you, you might get
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 2: you back in for continuing at the very least.
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 5: Oh, that'd be cool because I really want to.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 4: See what the first time? Well, yeah, for the remainder
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 4: of Atlantis as well, I haven't seen that.
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, first time is here?
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 5: We go?
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah rip in? Uh well, yeah, thank you. And I've
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 3: got a song to.
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: Play us out because you did ask for it earlier.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: Don't have it right now, so I'm going to kick
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: it off.
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 3: Yes, girls off pouring out for Adria. Guys, she went
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 3: out in flames because of what was it? What's your
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 3: what's your with your friends there? Maddie?
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 2: Who who's your Who's your favorite in this episode?
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 3: Was your favorite moment?
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 4: Oh?
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 5: I am the pe I am now.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 2: That takes me back to Katherine Powers though too, because
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 2: last time we used this girls on Fly was Katyn Powers.
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 4: Well, I thought you used that, Oh, you sexy bitch.
• 1:19:40
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