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Full Show Podcast: 08 April 2025 · Early Edition with Ryan Bridge

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  Speaker 1: The issues is the interviews and the insight. Andrew dickens
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  Speaker 1: on early edition with one roof make your property search
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  Speaker 2: It'd be hey, good onrding to you. Thank you for
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  Speaker 2: choosing us. I'm Andrew Dickinson. In the next sixty minutes,
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  Speaker 2: how soon can you go from being a politician to
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  Speaker 2: a lobbyist? A new campaign has launched to stop the
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  Speaker 2: police joining the gravy train as soon as they leave office,
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  Speaker 2: and we'll have that story for you in five Police
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  Speaker 2: still need to be involved in committing mental health patients
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  Speaker 2: and they're sick of it. So what can we do
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  Speaker 2: to lessen the load lanes per debt? We'll join you
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  Speaker 2: in ten minutes time and event spending it's to be
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  Speaker 2: increased to two percent of GDP. Why hasn't this happened earlier?
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  Speaker 2: I'll talk about this and we'll talk about this story
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  Speaker 2: just before six. We'll have correspondence from right around New
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  Speaker 2: zeal And, we'll have Donal Demio from Australia and we'll
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  Speaker 2: have news as it breaks and you can have your
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  Speaker 2: say by sending me a text. The number is ninety
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  Speaker 2: two to ninety two or small charge applies seven after five.
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  Speaker 1: The agenda.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's Tuesday, the eighth to April. US stock markets
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  Speaker 2: plunged again on opening after another day of worldwide market
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  Speaker 2: turmoil spart by Donald Trump's tariffs. We lost billions on
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  Speaker 2: our market. In London, the Financial Time Stock Exchange one
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  Speaker 2: hundred index dropped to its lowest level in a year.
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  Speaker 2: European share prices plunged, and Asian stocks have seen their
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  Speaker 2: worst drop in eight decade. But Donald Trump has called
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  Speaker 2: for patients, say that the tariffs will bring in billions
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  Speaker 2: of dollars a week.
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  Speaker 3: I don't want anything to go down, but sometimes you
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  Speaker 3: have to take the medicine to fix up them. And
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  Speaker 3: we have such a a horrible We have been treated
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  Speaker 3: so badly by other countries because we had stupid leadership
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  Speaker 3: that allowed this to happen.
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  Speaker 2: And the question is who's paying the billions in extra revenue.
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  Speaker 2: I'll have that story in a minute. Meanwhile, the presidents
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  Speaker 2: also threatened China with further tariffs. He says if they
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  Speaker 2: don't withdraw the thirty four percent retaliatory tariffs on the
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  Speaker 2: US back with the fifty percent one.
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  Speaker 4: Donald Trump clearly believes that China is the boogeyman and
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  Speaker 4: he's taking very strong and aggressive actions, and I may
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  Speaker 4: say the nuclear option when it comes to trade relations
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  Speaker 4: between the United States and China.
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  Speaker 5: So China is.
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  Speaker 4: Very much occupied, a very large portion of his attention,
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  Speaker 4: and it is a trade partner with which the United
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  Speaker 4: States and the Trump administration has its greatest concerns.
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  Speaker 2: Now and two across the ditch in Australia's opposition leader
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  Speaker 2: Peter Dutton has backtracked on an election promise to end
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  Speaker 2: work from home options for public servants after backlash. Peter Dutton,
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  Speaker 2: who'd been nicknamed Dogi, Dutton, said his Liberal National Coalition
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  Speaker 2: had made a mistake and he apologized.
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  Speaker 6: We've apologized for it. We support flexible workplace arrangements and
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  Speaker 6: our plan, which was only targeted for the public service
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  Speaker 6: in camera life, has been able to crowd into a
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  Speaker 6: scare campaign, which is not what it was intended. And
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  Speaker 6: as we've said before, we will make sure that we
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  Speaker 6: can help families and Betsy Jackie what our positive plan
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  Speaker 6: of getting our country back on tracks met.
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  Speaker 2: So that backtrack leaves a twenty four billion dollar hole
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  Speaker 2: in their proposed budget, so will they be able to
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  Speaker 2: fund health and other spending promises. We'll look at this
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  Speaker 2: with Donald to Mayo later and the leaders Peter Dutton
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  Speaker 2: and Anthony Albanesi will go head to head tonight in
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  Speaker 2: the first election debate. And finally, King Charles and Queen
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  Speaker 2: Camilla have arrived in Rome and they're beginning the estate
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  Speaker 2: visit to Italy. The visit will see a mix of
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  Speaker 2: soft power diplomacy greeting the crowds and also a bit
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  Speaker 2: of romance because the trip coincides with the couple's twentieth
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  Speaker 2: wedding anniversary.
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  Speaker 7: It's interesting thinking about the King's reign actually that since
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  Speaker 7: he took to the throne he has now done state
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  Speaker 7: visits to France, to Germany and to Italy, all of
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  Speaker 7: them reinforcing relationships with these major powers in Europe.
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  Speaker 2: It's ten out five Andrew Dickens foll Afili edition with
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  Speaker 2: one roof make Your Property Search Simple Youth Dog Zibby.
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  Speaker 2: So property developers are excited because there's going to be
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  Speaker 2: a big sell off of social housing just been announced.
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  Speaker 2: Kayinger Aura have said it plans to sell nine hundred
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  Speaker 2: state homes from July this year until June next year,
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  Speaker 2: early an estimate of four hundred to five hundred million dollars.
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  Speaker 2: Of those, about three hundred are in Auckland. It's been
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  Speaker 2: described as a gold mine for developers as it includes
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  Speaker 2: property in some established suburbs. And I know this because
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  Speaker 2: I grew up in a social housing neighborhood in Leefield. Remuerra. Yes, Remuerra,
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  Speaker 2: places like Harpua Road and Liga Street all full of
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  Speaker 2: state houses. They were pockets of what of government housing
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  Speaker 2: because in the day, those governments believed in what's called
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  Speaker 2: pepper potting, mixing the wealthy and the poor and so
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  Speaker 2: avoiding ghettos and promoting social unity. So we had some
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  Speaker 2: social houses amongst the mansions. Now they're selling the social
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  Speaker 2: houses and that is a good thing. If you look
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  Speaker 2: at the properties, there are three Betty basic rectangles on
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  Speaker 2: masses of land. The land is the value and because
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  Speaker 2: of its position, the land is through the roof. Now
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  Speaker 2: the modern view sees, of course, we could build seven
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  Speaker 2: town houses on that land that currently hosts just one dwelling.
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  Speaker 2: So there will be some who bemoan the loss of
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  Speaker 2: one social house and the profit of a developer. But
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  Speaker 2: their trick about all of this is the capital gain.
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  Speaker 2: The government realizes that money needs to be ring fenced
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  Speaker 2: so it pays for more social housing to replace the
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  Speaker 2: one house they're selling. If it all disappears into the
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  Speaker 2: consolidated funds, then we've all been ripped off. If the
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  Speaker 2: government plays this with a straight bat, this will not
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  Speaker 2: only be a windfall for developers, but also a windfall
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  Speaker 2: for those who need social housing. Andrew dickens it's twelve
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  Speaker 2: after five, so the tariff wars continue. Trump's warning of
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  Speaker 2: extra tariffs on China this morning if they retaliate. Meanwhile,
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  Speaker 2: the American public is running around trying to learn economics
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  Speaker 2: one oh one, so much so that sixty minutes on
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  Speaker 2: the telly this week is running at tariff prim Hey, listen,
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  Speaker 2: tariff is a tax or a foreign country.
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  Speaker 8: That's the way it is, whether you like it, and
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  Speaker 8: that a lot of people like to say, oh, it's
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  Speaker 8: a tax or US.
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  Speaker 3: No, no, no, it's a tax on a foreign country.
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  Speaker 3: It's a tax on a country that's ripping us off
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  Speaker 3: and stealing our jobs.
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  Speaker 9: But most any importer or economist will tell you the
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  Speaker 9: President is mistaken. Tariffs are not a tax on a
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  Speaker 9: foreign country. The tax is paid by the importer. In
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  Speaker 9: the United States, for example, Walmart imports goods from China,
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  Speaker 9: and when those goods cross into the United States, Walmart
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  Speaker 9: pays the tariff. If Walmart decides to pass the cost
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  Speaker 9: to consumers, then you paid the tariff, not China.
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  Speaker 2: And that's the thing. The tariffs are like a sales
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  Speaker 2: tax on American consumers. That means tariffs are inflacing me here.
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  Speaker 2: We would call that non tradable inflation. It's a bit
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  Speaker 2: like rates and power bills. It's inflation that you can't
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  Speaker 2: control it. It can't trade, it can't go down in America.
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  Speaker 2: It's going up. And when inflation breaks out in America,
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  Speaker 2: it breaks out around the globe, which interests US and
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  Speaker 2: me today because our Reserve Bank is reviewing their settings
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  Speaker 2: on Wednesday about our interest rates and if there are
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  Speaker 2: vestiges of inflation hanging around the globe, the talk is
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  Speaker 2: that the big interest rates cuts are going to be
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  Speaker 2: off the table. So you see, this whole thing brings
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  Speaker 2: us all together. It is five fourteen. So we've heard
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  Speaker 2: stories about guys who lose an election and they go
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  Speaker 2: into the public sphere and look at that all of
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  Speaker 2: a sudden, they become a lobbyist because they've been a
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  Speaker 2: minister for the Crown. They've learned all sorts of things,
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  Speaker 2: They've got all sorts of contexts, you know, their phoneus
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  Speaker 2: full of numbers and they go right, I can actually
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  Speaker 2: monetize this and they end out lobbying. Now, how quickly
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  Speaker 2: should they be allowed to do that? There's a new
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  Speaker 2: group who are rathering against all of this, and I'll
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  Speaker 2: talk about this and what they want in just a
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  Speaker 2: few mothers time. It's News Talks at.
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  Speaker 1: B the first word on the News of the Day,
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  Speaker 1: Early edition with Andrew Dickens and One Room, Make Your
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  Speaker 2: It's sixteen alf to five. So a group calling themselves
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  Speaker 2: Level the playing field rallying against New Zealand's lobbying regulations
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  Speaker 2: and they're calling for more transparency. Former Prime Minister Helen
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  Speaker 2: Clark and former Attorney General Chris Finlson where some of
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  Speaker 2: the speakers at the campaign launch last night. They're calling
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  Speaker 2: for stronger lobbying regulations, a cooling off period to prevent
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  Speaker 2: former ministers from immediately becoming lobbyists, and a tightening of
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  Speaker 2: political donation rules. So Health Coalition arterio's co chairperson Boyd
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  Speaker 2: Swimburn and joins me now goodbody to your board.
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  Speaker 10: Andrew.
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  Speaker 2: So you held the launch party last night. What were
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  Speaker 2: the headlines that came out of it.
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  Speaker 10: Well, those sort of things that you said, We recognize
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  Speaker 10: the problem that we have with exious and influence on
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  Speaker 10: public policy is at the moment two dominated or has
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  Speaker 10: been for some years by vested interest by commercial interests,
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  Speaker 10: and those groups that are pushing for the common goods
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  Speaker 10: for social outcomes, health outcomes, environmental outcomes really don't get
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  Speaker 10: to say. So this is the sort of the playing
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  Speaker 10: field that needs to be leveled. Nothing wrong with lobbying
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  Speaker 10: so long as it's in balance and we get a
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  Speaker 10: public policy for public good, not for private good. So
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  Speaker 10: there's a fair consensus building around the need for lobbying laws.
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  Speaker 10: You know, New Zealand has no lobbying regulations, makes us
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  Speaker 10: an outlier in OECD countries, and so we need lobbying regulations.
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  Speaker 10: We need a whole bunch of things to try to
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  Speaker 10: strengthen democracy.
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  Speaker 2: The fact that you had a former labor politician having Clerk,
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  Speaker 2: and a former national politician Chris Finnison there speaking on
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  Speaker 2: the issue, does this mean this issue has bipartisan support.
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  Speaker 10: Well, it has to have bipartisan supporter Scott. It's an
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  Speaker 10: issue which cuts across the political spectrum. We also had
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  Speaker 10: Antolli there, who's the formal National Minister as well. We're
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  Speaker 10: not going to get progress on this unless both main
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  Speaker 10: parties at least are on board and see this slide
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  Speaker 10: that were having and trust in government. The Transparency International
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  Speaker 10: figures show that New New Zealand's corruption index we used
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  Speaker 10: to be top of the world and now we're sliding
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  Speaker 10: down each year. We need to rebuild that and get
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  Speaker 10: trust back in government.
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  Speaker 2: And you and your coalition Health Coalition or you actually
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  Speaker 2: got into the views. You called on New Zealand first
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  Speaker 2: to come clean due to the Associate Minister of Health
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  Speaker 2: Casey Costello's links to tobacco giants. So this is your motivation.
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  Speaker 2: Would this sort of regulation stop that?
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  Speaker 10: Well, it's not going to be one our magic bullet.
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  Speaker 10: There's a whole bunch of things we need to do
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  Speaker 10: to retrieve our our democracy and make it a fair
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  Speaker 10: playing field. But yes, in health where we have tobacco, alcohol,
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  Speaker 10: whole and unhealthy food. These things cause a third of
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  Speaker 10: the health damage in this country and yet we have
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  Speaker 10: not been able to get policies through successive governments because
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  Speaker 10: of the pressure of lobbying and so we really need
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  Speaker 10: that to improve our health.
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  Speaker 2: So can I just ask, very briefly, what's the coalition
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  Speaker 2: government saying? Are they on board?
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  Speaker 10: Well, now that we've had the launch, we're going to
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  Speaker 10: be taking this around to the governments and to the
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  Speaker 10: opposition parties as well, because as you said, this needs
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  Speaker 10: to be across parties. The Attorney General, Paul Goldsmith has
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  Speaker 10: had some lobbying regulations and reports on it on his
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  Speaker 10: desk for some time, so we want to be able
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  Speaker 10: to put this stronger case to him. He's had this
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  Speaker 10: report about a voluntary code for lobbyists, but that's not
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  Speaker 10: nearly strong enough. I need a whole raft of things.
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  Speaker 2: Boyd swinburn I thank you that as Professor Boyd Swinburne,
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  Speaker 2: who is the Royal Health Coalition co chairperson, I need
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  Speaker 2: to I don't know, but there we are. It is
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  Speaker 2: five point twenty. The police have to be involved when
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  Speaker 2: you're committing a mental health patient. The police find this
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  Speaker 2: a huge train on resources. Back in November they announce
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  Speaker 2: some policies to withdraw. How is that going and how
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  Speaker 2: can we move forward with it? Lance Bidett, the famous
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  Speaker 2: negotiator from the Police's Next.
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  Speaker 1: Get ahead of the headlines on early edition Andrew Dickens
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  Speaker 2: It'd be It is five twenty three now. The Mental
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  Speaker 2: Health Foundations launched a petition calling for police to stop
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  Speaker 2: its plan to scale back attendance at mental health call outs.
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  Speaker 2: A police, of course, say they're spending too much time
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  Speaker 2: escorting voluntary patients between hospitals and emergency departments and they
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  Speaker 2: want to fight crime. Former police officer and mental health
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  Speaker 2: advocate Lance Burdett has worken up early for us. Good
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  Speaker 2: morning to your Lance, Good morning here. So how much
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  Speaker 2: time on an eight hour shift for an average cop
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  Speaker 2: has spent on mental health callouts, Well, it can.
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  Speaker 11: Be quite a bit of time. And it's not just
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  Speaker 11: me a matter of transporting them. The way it was
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  Speaker 11: done was there was also a sergeant had to be
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  Speaker 11: following that patrol, so it took quite a bit of time. Now,
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  Speaker 11: by the very term mental health crisis, which is what
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  Speaker 11: these people are going through is mental health, so they
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  Speaker 11: have a health issue. They're not criminals.
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  Speaker 5: Now.
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  Speaker 11: In the early days when I joined the police, the
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  Speaker 11: only way to get them help and support was to
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  Speaker 11: risk them and they put them in a police cell.
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  Speaker 11: Now and somebody who's going through a mental health crisis,
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  Speaker 11: the last thing they needed to be put into a
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  Speaker 11: police cell. Okay, not a great place for them.
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  Speaker 2: Police launch phase one of a reduction program on November
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  Speaker 2: the fourth of Mental Health Foundation. I'm not happy about it.
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  Speaker 2: I want to ask the question are police already scaling
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  Speaker 2: back these operations because I heard the Minister Matt Doucy
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  Speaker 2: on Ryan Bridges show last night and he seemed a
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  Speaker 2: little unsure of that.
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  Speaker 11: As far as I know, Well, where ever possible, they
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  Speaker 11: will be scaling back. And it's what they've done anyway.
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  Speaker 11: They've always rereharshed it, so they will only go to
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  Speaker 11: people who are a real genuine crisis where they might
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  Speaker 11: have been causing violence. But again, you know, I do
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  Speaker 11: know of one particular occasion where a taser had to
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  Speaker 11: be used on somebody. Now, I mean, that's just in humane,
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  Speaker 11: isn't it That you can't negotiate with these people. You
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  Speaker 11: can't because they're going through a crisis state, and oftentimes
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  Speaker 11: when you turn up in your police uniform, that just
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  Speaker 11: makes it worse.
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  Speaker 2: So mental health crisis teams are already stretched for resources
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  Speaker 2: and now the police are wanting to pull back. If
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  Speaker 2: not police, then who ambulance service?
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  Speaker 11: That's their role is transporting patients? Isn't it mental health?
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  Speaker 11: The health patients? So what needs to have at mention
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  Speaker 11: of that?
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  Speaker 2: So, what needs to happen to enable the ambulance crews
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  Speaker 2: or the ambulance services to have enough resources to cope
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  Speaker 2: with the extra workload.
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  Speaker 11: Well, they do have transport services already.
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  Speaker 10: Now.
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  Speaker 11: The reason why I say this, and I hate to
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  Speaker 11: say it, because I know that they're of the pump,
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  Speaker 11: probably worse than the police are to be frank and
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  Speaker 11: it's not a fully funded service. That the ambulance service
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  Speaker 11: need to be fully funded by government to do this work.
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  Speaker 2: Lance, I thank you for your work, Lance, author, former
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  Speaker 2: police officer, a mental health advocate, and it is our
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  Speaker 2: five twenty six This News Talks at B.
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  Speaker 2: News Talks ab So the news that New Zealand is
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  Speaker 2: going to spend twelve billion dollars on defenses not news
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  Speaker 2: to welcome, and yet it is also welcome news, and
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  Speaker 2: this is because it highlights the state of the planet
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  Speaker 2: it's an unsetled world, and in an unsettled world, defense
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  Speaker 2: is essential and the equation for a credible defense is
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  Speaker 2: spending two percent of GDP. Now, within eight years we'll
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  Speaker 2: get to that target. It's a doubling of the budget.
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  Speaker 2: And the question is why are we only just doing
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  Speaker 2: this now. If we've been spending close to that for
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  Speaker 2: the past thirty years, we wouldn't be facing so dramatic
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  Speaker 2: a spend today. But we didn't. We were fat and
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  Speaker 2: complacent in a mistaken belief that we were safe and
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  Speaker 2: sound and if something went wrong, our friends would come
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  Speaker 2: and save us. Now we have China knocking on our
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  Speaker 2: door and sailing in our seas. For as long as
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  Speaker 2: I've been in the news business, which is over thirty
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  Speaker 2: years now, Australia and the States have warned that our
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  Speaker 2: coke tailing did not cut it, and we had to
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  Speaker 2: do our bit, maybe not have fighter jets, but at
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  Speaker 2: least something. So fair play to Judith Collins. She's finally
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  Speaker 2: accepting the responsibility that we've always needed to take. But
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  Speaker 2: this comes at a difficult time. Firstly, of course, the
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  Speaker 2: world has become more dangerous, so time is of the
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  Speaker 2: essence and Secondly, we're broke, and it comes at a
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  Speaker 2: time when barely reported mass redundancies are actually happening in
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  Speaker 2: defense to meet government spending targets. So with this move
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  Speaker 2: they have announced. With this move, basically they are firing
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  Speaker 2: at the moment on one hand and they're going to
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  Speaker 2: employ with another. Now on it, you can argue that
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  Speaker 2: both the firing and the spending are both necessary, and
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  Speaker 2: they're necessary because we've sat in our hands for so long,
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  Speaker 2: and they're necessary because we have spent irresponsibly. Andrew Dickens,
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  Speaker 2: it's five point twenty nine. Peter Dutton's made a very
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  Speaker 2: embarrassing you turn in the election campaign. He's not going
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  Speaker 2: to fire public servants because the public servants rebelled, and
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  Speaker 2: now he's got a twenty four billion dollar hole at
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  Speaker 2: his budget. Donald Tomao is joining us. We're going right
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  Speaker 2: around the country as well, and we'll talk defense before
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  Speaker 2: six here on Early Edition with Andrew Dickinson for Brian
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  Speaker 12: Sometimes are just kidding.
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  Speaker 1: with Andrew Dickens and One Roof To make your Property
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  Speaker 5: Good Wing to write it to Tuesday.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Andrew Dickens and for Ryan Bridge, and this is
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  Speaker 2: a song called as He's on watch Out. It's Ed Sharon.
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  Speaker 2: Ed Shearon is back. Over the weekend he released his
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  Speaker 2: first single from his new album. The new album is
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  Speaker 2: called Play, and this is it as He's as spelled
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  Speaker 2: a z isz am from There's Ed a zz Am.
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  Speaker 2: What the hell is this about? Apparently it's a fasty
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  Speaker 2: phrase that translates to my dear fastly, of course, the
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  Speaker 2: official language of Iran. I have to wonder whether Ed
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  Speaker 2: Shearan is watching the world headlines right now and wondering
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  Speaker 2: whether this was a good marketing move. But I mean
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  Speaker 2: he's Ed Shearan. So the album is going to be
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  Speaker 2: called Play. It'll be the first record in a series
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  Speaker 2: that will include the album's pause, rewind, fast forward and stop.
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  Speaker 2: He's been looking at a tape recorded bad too much.
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  Speaker 2: He's so excited for all the other surprises he has
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  Speaker 2: for us. Maybe that's a tour now. In personal news,
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  Speaker 2: I blew my hand up yesterday. I turned on the
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  Speaker 2: barbecue to make some lunch, and I didn't realize that
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  Speaker 2: the last user of the barbecue, which would be me,
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  Speaker 2: hadn't quite turned the gas off last time he used it,
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  Speaker 2: so I went wandering out there. There was a vestige
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  Speaker 2: of gas under the hood. I didn't realize that hit
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  Speaker 2: the igniter. When I hit the igniter, the lid blew
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  Speaker 2: off and a spurt of super hot gas blasted my
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  Speaker 2: left hand. It was quite a bang, I tell you,
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  Speaker 2: she scared them but Jesus out of me. But the
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  Speaker 2: good thing was it was over in an instant because
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  Speaker 2: the hood snaps shut again. But it has left me
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  Speaker 2: with a somewhat burnt and leathery left hand. No blistering,
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  Speaker 2: just sort of you know, it's sore, and it's the
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  Speaker 2: skin's gone all thick. You know how when you get
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  Speaker 2: a burnt skin goes thick. I blew my hand up
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  Speaker 2: with a barbecue. So just a little public service announcement,
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  Speaker 2: always lift the lids when lighting the barbecue, because you
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  Speaker 2: don't know what fool forgot to completely turn the gas off.
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  Speaker 2: Twenty one to six, it's time to go right around
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  Speaker 2: the country. We go to Dunedin first. Callum Proctor, Good
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  Speaker 2: morning to you morning, Andrew. Tell me the latest on
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  Speaker 2: the fight to prevent South Dunedin from flooding.
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  Speaker 13: Well, we're at the stage where it's time for the
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  Speaker 13: residents to have a say on all of the different
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  Speaker 13: options that were presented in those two major reports released
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  Speaker 13: last month analyzing the risks facing South dened in the
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  Speaker 13: low lying area. The Danedan City and regional councils here
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  Speaker 13: have come up with seven options to protect the community,
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  Speaker 13: costing up to seven billion dollars. They include keeping the
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  Speaker 13: status quo right through to letting the water in and
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  Speaker 13: a large scale retreat. The program manages Jonathan Rowe. He's
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  Speaker 13: encouraging all residents to attend these workshops and contribute to
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  Speaker 13: the discussions here and the future of South Dnedan. The
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  Speaker 13: first of those public workshops is in South Dunedin today.
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  Speaker 2: How's the weather tell me? It's not raining, it's.
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  Speaker 13: Raining and it's heavy and we've got a strong and
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  Speaker 13: strong win heavy rainwatch here. Look the rains to ease
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  Speaker 13: by midday. We've got Gail for Soel West discussing one
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  Speaker 13: hundred k's easing late afternoon the heights today thirteenth.
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  Speaker 2: All right to christ should we go in clear sure?
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  Speaker 2: With good morning? Good morning? You've got a big fire
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  Speaker 2: in the east.
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  Speaker 14: Do we ever a big fire at This commercial premises
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  Speaker 14: on Mace's Road in Bromley. It broke out at about
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  Speaker 14: one yesterday afternoon. No one in christ Church would have
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  Speaker 14: missed the huge black plume of smoke that came from that.
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  Speaker 14: Fire crews have been there all night. They're working on
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  Speaker 14: what's still considered a deep seated fire. They certainly have
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  Speaker 14: not risked any firefighters being in the building overnight due
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  Speaker 14: to the darkness, so really, I'm told they've been standing
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  Speaker 14: there spraying water on the building, waiting until first light
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  Speaker 14: when they can assess things. I've been on the phone
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  Speaker 14: with Fire and Emergency shift manager Simon Leiford. He says
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  Speaker 14: a member of the public was taken to hospital overnight
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  Speaker 14: from the scene after turning up and then suffering respiratory
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  Speaker 14: issues due to the smoke. The good news is the
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  Speaker 14: fire is still contained to the one very large building.
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  Speaker 14: Mind you, a fire investigator will look into the cause
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  Speaker 14: of it once it's safe enough to do so. This
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  Speaker 14: place happened after some smoke from controlled burnoffs plagued much
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  Speaker 14: of the city yesterday morning. It was sort of hovering
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  Speaker 14: very low. Simon tells me that's possible again this morning
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  Speaker 14: due to the cooler morning conditions, meaning that smoke hovers
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  Speaker 14: right down close to us.
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  Speaker 2: Now, how's your weather, Well, we're under.
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  Speaker 14: The same mornings actually showers from late this morning. Strong
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  Speaker 14: wind watch in place from nine severe gaals gusting one
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  Speaker 14: hundred and twenty kilometers an hour at a high sixteen.
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  Speaker 2: And I thank you when we go to Wellington now
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  Speaker 2: with Max Tolka, wanting to you Max, good morning. So
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  Speaker 2: the crypto outbreak continues to spread, and we're not talking
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  Speaker 2: the currency, we're talking the milk.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's right.
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  Speaker 15: This one has a lot of parents on edge. There
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  Speaker 15: are now sixty cases of this highly contagious parasitic bug
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  Speaker 15: making its way well, firstly in the Hut Valley, now
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  Speaker 15: across the wider region in general, there have been cases
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  Speaker 15: in polyidua carpety wided appa cryptosporidiosis. It's been linked to
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  Speaker 15: a number of swimming pools. A few have had to
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  Speaker 15: completely drain their water and refill. Sixty cases farm more
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  Speaker 15: than usual for this time of the year. The local
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  Speaker 15: medical Officer of Health reckons there are even more in
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  Speaker 15: the community that haven't been picked up yet. Perhaps there
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  Speaker 15: are some who just think they've got food poisoning or something.
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  Speaker 15: Childcare centers are on high alert as it can spread
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  Speaker 15: quite easily among younger children.
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  Speaker 2: And how's Wellington's weather today?
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  Speaker 15: Yeah, not great either, the rain strengthening as the morning
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  Speaker 15: goes on. Very strong winds this morning as well high
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  Speaker 15: of eighteenth Central and never writ a.
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  Speaker 2: Mane who joins me from Walkanhella, Neva.
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  Speaker 16: Greetings.
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  Speaker 2: What's the latest and Destiny Church versus the Tiata tu
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  Speaker 2: Public Library.
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  Speaker 16: Well, I can tell you that Brian Tamaki won't be
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  Speaker 16: charged now this is in relation to the violence that
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  Speaker 16: at a West aalok And library back in February, due
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  Speaker 16: to a lack of evidence. Now we'll remember that the
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  Speaker 16: violence erupted at this is at the Tiata two Peninsula
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  Speaker 16: library after members of the church swarmed in protest of
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  Speaker 16: a family pride event. Now, non profit organization countering Hate
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  Speaker 16: Speech altia at Or alleged that Tarmiki had incited the
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  Speaker 16: disorder via social media. But police, I've had a look
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  Speaker 16: at it. The I've now concluded these insufficient evidence to
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  Speaker 16: charge them following a thorough investigation. But we do remember
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  Speaker 16: too that there were multiple assault charges and they've been
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  Speaker 16: laid against the other people that were allegedly involved.
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  Speaker 2: House orchards.
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  Speaker 16: Weather today, well, not as bad as the others. I
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  Speaker 16: can tell you that isolated chills developing. We've got a
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  Speaker 16: period of rain around midday followed by fine spells in
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  Speaker 16: our highs twenty two.
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  Speaker 2: I thank you need it now seventeen to six more
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  Speaker 2: reaction to the increase in defense spending, and Steve's agitated
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  Speaker 2: about Helen Clarke. He wants me to ask Helen Clarke
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  Speaker 2: why spending was cut under her regime. Her naivety was unbelievable.
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  Speaker 2: He says that Helen perpetuated the Peacenik belief that the
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  Speaker 2: world had somehow changed and large wars were a thing
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  Speaker 2: of the past. Yet no one is calling her out
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  Speaker 2: on it, and she continues to pursue to plicate the
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  Speaker 2: larger powers strategy and hope for the best. Yes, Steve, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: here's the thing about Helen Clark and defense spending. Remember
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  Speaker 2: the laves, the light armored vehicles. We bought a truckload
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  Speaker 2: of laves which were outdated and somewhat unnecessary because I
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  Speaker 2: don't know if you realize we're a maritime country and
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  Speaker 2: you can't go driving these labs all over the sea.
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  Speaker 2: And remember the criticism about this. You can get it
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  Speaker 2: terribly wrong when you're buying kit when you're increasing defense spending,
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  Speaker 2: and that's a warning going forward. We'll talk more on
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  Speaker 2: this before sex with Hayden Ricketts and Hayden as a
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  Speaker 2: retired lieutenant colonel. But next Donald to Maayo from Australia.
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  Speaker 2: Here on Newstalk set.
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  Speaker 1: B International Correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance, Peace of
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  Speaker 1: mind for New Zealand business.
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  Speaker 5: Well to Australia and es.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning to Donna Tomayo at thirteen minutes to six.
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  Speaker 2: Hi Donna, oh, hello to you. Hello. Now we're one
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  Speaker 2: week into the election campaign and the courliss and Leader
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  Speaker 2: Leader of the Opposition, Peter Dutton, has made a somewhat
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  Speaker 2: embarrassing u turn.
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  Speaker 12: Yes, it's rather dramatic a policy reversal, let's call it.
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  Speaker 12: Of course, it had planned the coalitionion to sack forty
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  Speaker 12: one thousand public service employees. It had planned to restrict
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  Speaker 12: work from home arrangements. Peter Dutton has admitted he made
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  Speaker 12: a mistake there his words. He also said he got
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  Speaker 12: it wrong. Now the plan had proved really unpopular. This
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  Speaker 12: is a policy that was going to have a mandated
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  Speaker 12: minimum number of days in the office, that is five
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  Speaker 12: days a week. While who wasn't a popular with well
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  Speaker 12: among women, for starters working families. Well, they've come to
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  Speaker 12: rely on these flexible work arrangements, as we know. So
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  Speaker 12: the Coalition now says it will rely on natural attrition
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  Speaker 12: and those sackings will no longer happen. And Dutton is
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  Speaker 12: now professing that and these are his words. We're listening
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  Speaker 12: to what people say. We've also heard from the Prime
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  Speaker 12: Minister who says no one believes Peter Dutton has changed
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  Speaker 12: his mind. He believes that Dutton will rip up those
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  Speaker 12: flexible work arrangements the minute if he does get the chance.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, well, Jim Charmer's the Treasures in fact been calling
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  Speaker 2: Peter Dutton, Doji Dutton other elon mush which Turner phrase.
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  Speaker 2: Problem of course with the coalition that leaves a twenty
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  Speaker 2: four billion dollar hole in their funding plan and they
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  Speaker 2: wanted to use that on health than other spending.
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  Speaker 12: So yeah, how are they going to pay for the
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  Speaker 12: range of policies.
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  Speaker 2: That's right, it's true. Meanwhile, Pauline Hanson is hiring in house.
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  Speaker 12: Oh gosh, well we know that she's a very very
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  Speaker 12: controversial figure in Australian politics. Point Hanson of One Nation
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  Speaker 12: fame has enlisted her daughter Lee to carry on One
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  Speaker 12: Nation's influence in parliament. As she's put it, she denies nepotism,
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  Speaker 12: saying well her three sons aren't up to the job.
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  Speaker 12: She says, I wouldn't have any of my sons in parliament.
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  Speaker 12: This is about qualifications, not nepotism. So forty one year
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  Speaker 12: old Lee, who has just been a newly announced Senate
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  Speaker 12: candidate for Tasmania, also commented about her brothers and said, yes,
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  Speaker 12: you know she does mean that, but we know that Hanson.
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  Speaker 12: Senator Hanson is seventy years old, so she's nearing retirement
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  Speaker 12: aged of course, and she's saying her time in politics
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  Speaker 12: is coming to an end and she wants people to
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  Speaker 12: carry carry on or her legacy. As she put it,
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  Speaker 12: there you go.
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  Speaker 2: Retirement is a state of mind, not an age. Can
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  Speaker 2: I just remind you.
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  Speaker 12: This is what there were, this is what pundits have
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  Speaker 12: been observing about Hags and that's all.
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  Speaker 2: I don't tend to.
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  Speaker 12: Note people's ages as you may.
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  Speaker 2: Be as you get older, you tend to do that less.
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  Speaker 2: It is eleven to six New stoksb Coundre Dickens. All right,
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  Speaker 2: the government has announced a mass of twelve billion dollar
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  Speaker 2: investment in defense over the next four years. Nine billion
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  Speaker 2: of it is completely new, with a plan to lift
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  Speaker 2: defense spending to more than two percent of GDP in
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  Speaker 2: the next eight years. It comes as we've seen all
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  Speaker 2: this activity from China. They've launched an into ballistic missile
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  Speaker 2: in the Pacific last year, hastling the jetstar planes. We
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  Speaker 2: had three Chinese warships sailing off the coast of Sydney
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  Speaker 2: a couple of months ago. So retired Lieutenant Colonel Hayden
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  Speaker 2: Ricketts joins me, good morning to your Hayden.
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  Speaker 8: Good morning, Andrew, how are you?
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  Speaker 5: I'm good.
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  Speaker 2: This is a record spend and it's overdue, isn't it.
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  Speaker 10: I think it is.
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  Speaker 8: I congratulate the government on what is really a step
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  Speaker 8: change for defense spending over the past thirty five years
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  Speaker 8: or sorry, twelve billion dollar commitment to increase spending over
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  Speaker 8: the next four years. That's absolutely massive. But our observation
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  Speaker 8: around the whole plan is that it's great to see
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  Speaker 8: some new tins, some new ships for Navy, to aircraft Reirforce,
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  Speaker 8: and some armored vehicles and things for army. But what
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  Speaker 8: this misses the mark on is the people component parts.
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  Speaker 8: Holiness was identified as a really contributing factor in the
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  Speaker 8: sinking of the MONEYMNUI, and I don't see where in
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  Speaker 8: the Defense Capability Plan the link between that holiness and
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  Speaker 8: how the DCP is going to address the gaps and
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  Speaker 8: the key skills and trades in the defense walls at
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  Speaker 8: the moment.
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  Speaker 2: Indeed, as Little reported that in fact, the Defense Force
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  Speaker 2: is going through a major restructure right now because of
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  Speaker 2: the attack on government spending, and so there are in
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  Speaker 2: fact hundreds of people being laid off, but they're in
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  Speaker 2: the middle of a process right now, so their morale
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  Speaker 2: is already low, but now they're being told, actually, now
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  Speaker 2: you're getting more money. So it's a confusing situation, it is.
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  Speaker 8: I think it's a really good signal that the government
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  Speaker 8: is sending to our international and our partners. I think
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  Speaker 8: that you might have seen a little graph that they
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  Speaker 8: come up with the pressure Reason for your listeners. It's
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  Speaker 8: a graph sort of between nineteen eighty showing defense spending
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  Speaker 8: decreasing from three percent of GDP down to one percent,
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  Speaker 8: so at the moment and then almost like a complete
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  Speaker 8: U turn back up to two percent over the east
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  Speaker 8: eight years. That graph is going to brief beautifully in
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  Speaker 8: capitals all around the world and especially in the White House.
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  Speaker 8: But I think, in realistic terms, can the government afford
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  Speaker 8: to do this? I'm not convinced. Cynically. We've seen twenty
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  Speaker 8: billion dollars invested or stated investment in twenty sixteen in
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  Speaker 8: the DCP, another fourteen million sort of fourteen billion in
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  Speaker 8: defense and DCP nineteen and now another signal of a
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  Speaker 8: huge investment. But these investments get promised, but they don't
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  Speaker 8: get delivered on.
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  Speaker 2: But here's the other thing. I mean, you're talking the money,
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  Speaker 2: but it's not about the money.
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  Speaker 5: It's the kit.
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  Speaker 2: And if you buy the wrong kit, you can waste
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  Speaker 2: that money really quickly. I talked about the light armored
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  Speaker 2: vehicles that Health and Clark bought for um piece work,
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  Speaker 2: when really a lot of people at the time a argue,
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  Speaker 2: maybe you should be buying a boat.
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  Speaker 10: Well, you're right.
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  Speaker 8: So Army has got a lot of those light armored
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  Speaker 8: equals that are not being cruised. Some of the new
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  Speaker 8: bush Masters have bought a lot of those equals that
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  Speaker 8: are still not being full of utilized. Navy's got ships
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  Speaker 8: tied up despite the factor of the loss of the moneymenting,
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  Speaker 8: and I think air Force has got more aircraft at
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  Speaker 8: the moment that they can comfortably crew. A commitment to
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  Speaker 8: spend more money on more gear is great, but without
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  Speaker 8: the personnel component part of that to support it in behind,
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  Speaker 8: the whole plan just sort of starts to fall apart.
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  Speaker 2: Hayden Ricketts, I thank you for your service, and I
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  Speaker 2: thank you for your time this morning that as Hayden
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  Speaker 2: here has retarded Lieutenant Colonel and its news talk to
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  Speaker 2: me and it's seven to.
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  Speaker 1: Six News and Views you trust to start your day.
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  Speaker 1: It's early edition with Andrew Dickens and one roof make
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  Speaker 1: your property search simple as news.
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  Speaker 5: Talks they'd be.
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  Speaker 2: So it's Hayden Rickets said, we've got this, We've got
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  Speaker 2: the money, where do we find the staff? And as
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  Speaker 2: I say, we've got the money, but what kit do
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  Speaker 2: we buy? Because that's that's the critical segment it comes
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  Speaker 2: to defense, because you could go and buy some lemons,
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  Speaker 2: you could buy some second stuff that fall out of
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  Speaker 2: the air Can I mention the seven five seven for instance?
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  Speaker 2: So we could blow this to our billion just like
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  Speaker 2: that text through saying even some of the SAS guys
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  Speaker 2: have had to buy additions to their equipment personally back
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  Speaker 2: in the day. And that's our defense force, ladies and gentlemen.
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  Speaker 2: And this is Mike Husking, good morning.
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  Speaker 17: I felt good about yesterday in that join the world
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  Speaker 17: type vibe.
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  Speaker 2: You know it's been.
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  Speaker 17: Two percent to be GDP and stuff like that. Three
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  Speaker 17: ships we have, yeah, well yeah, apparently five don't. Well
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  Speaker 17: we don't at the moment because we don't know that
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  Speaker 17: because they're tied up because we don't have the staff.
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  Speaker 17: So that's one of the big issues. So they talked
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  Speaker 17: about that yesterday. That's in the budget. The salary money
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  Speaker 17: is in the budget, which is separate to what they
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  Speaker 17: were announcing yesterday, and there's a lot of drones and
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  Speaker 17: a lot of that personalless tech ithance.
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  Speaker 2: Lethality is the headline day.
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  Speaker 17: First time you've ever heard that. Yeah, I've never heard
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  Speaker 17: lethality before as a word. But anyway, we're going to
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  Speaker 17: have more of it as a result, and the Australians
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  Speaker 17: love us, and the world will love us, and the
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  Speaker 17: whole world's change again. So we're sort of joining the
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  Speaker 17: big boys club. My only hope is that it's one
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  Speaker 17: of those things that stays the because if you get
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  Speaker 17: the Greens and labor and power, you've got to wonder
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  Speaker 17: whether they're pro guns and military and fighting and conflict
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  Speaker 17: and stuff like that.
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  Speaker 2: Anyway, David Parker was actually on the Telly On on
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  Speaker 2: the weekend and he seemed good year.
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  Speaker 17: But David Parker is not always aligned with the Labour
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  Speaker 17: Party from my experience, you know what I'm saying. Anyway,
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  Speaker 17: So Ron Mark, who was a defense minister, Judith Collins,
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  Speaker 17: who is a defense minister, is going.
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  Speaker 2: To be with a song. You are a defense minister,
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  Speaker 2: do you have to have fired a gun?
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  Speaker 17: It's a very good question, but that's applicable to every
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  Speaker 17: single portfolio. If you're the broadcasting minister, do you ever
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  Speaker 17: have to have hosted a radio show?
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  Speaker 2: So the answer is.
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  Speaker 17: No, she said fumbling up in the press conference yesterday.
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  Speaker 17: She said at the end of it, it's been a
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  Speaker 17: big learning curve for me. So good on at for
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  Speaker 17: saying that's the answer is probably she didn't get any
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  Speaker 17: good program.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, remember that picture of Judith with the hemp.
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  Speaker 17: Very much and she's with us this morning.
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  Speaker 2: Good take you to producer Ken think my name's Andrew Dickins.
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  Speaker 2: I'm back again tomorrow.
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  Speaker 5: Have a great day.
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