Latest / OneLegUpAlex Media / OneLegUpAlex Media Talks with Paul Iaccarino, The Director of the BUILDING TRADES EDUCATIONAL BENEFIT FUND (recorded 9-10-26)
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- 0:02Speaker 1: Here's your host, Alex Garrett.
- 0:07Speaker 2: Well, here at One Look Up Alex Media, you know,
- 0:09Speaker 2: we scan the papers and we sort of bring you
- 0:11Speaker 2: the articles to life. And right now I've got someone
- 0:14Speaker 2: who was featured in the post almost a couple of
- 0:17Speaker 2: weeks ago, you know, talk about the Gen Z male
- 0:21Speaker 2: work crisis. And I think that's a very important conversation
- 0:24Speaker 2: considering that last time I saw him, Paul Acorino, you
- 0:27Speaker 2: might be able to correct me on this.
- 0:28Speaker 1: I believe I saw.
- 0:29Speaker 2: Like 7 million or maybe even more males are out
- 0:32Speaker 2: of work right now, which is alarming. But tell us
- 0:35Speaker 2: where you're trying to help the males have one leg
- 0:38Speaker 2: up on life again and get them.
- 0:40Speaker 1: Back on the workforce. I want to start there with.
- 0:43Speaker 3: Well, what you said might be factual. It is basically
- 0:46Speaker 3: not for us. Our program, our apprenticeship program, our work
- 0:51Speaker 3: has been growing a lot, especially in recent times over
- 0:55Speaker 3: the past few years. We have a five-year apprenticeship program,
- 0:59Speaker 3: and I would say that most of our students are
- 1:03Speaker 3: Gen Z, and that number has grown over the years.
- 1:07Speaker 2: And I see why you were called to talk to
- 1:09Speaker 2: the New York Post about this, because you are trying
- 1:11Speaker 2: to shift the trend around it at the United Surfers
- 1:14Speaker 2: Workers Union. So talk about the trades that you work
- 1:17Speaker 2: with and the union that you're part of and how
- 1:19Speaker 2: you help people become employed.
- 1:23Speaker 3: Well, we work with United Service Workers Local 363A, and
- 1:27Speaker 3: we train their electricians. I know that this trade in particular,
- 1:31Speaker 3: in our program, there's a clear pathway to have a
- 1:36Speaker 3: successful career. And, yeah, I mean, our program's been growing.
- 1:41Speaker 3: We're happy to help anybody that we can.
- 1:45Speaker 2: And when you talk about this conversation, I mean, how
- 1:49Speaker 2: does it– I feel like you're very passionate about it
- 1:52Speaker 2: based on what I saw in the paper. So how
- 1:54Speaker 2: passionate are you that we reversed this trend? I want
- 1:57Speaker 2: to ask you that.
- 1:58Speaker 3: Oh, well, the skilled labor shortage is a big problem.
- 2:03Speaker 3: I'm very proud and happy to be a part of
- 2:05Speaker 3: addressing that problem. And I mean, just to speak about
- 2:10Speaker 3: our growth, we are expanding training into Long Island. We've
- 2:13Speaker 3: trained in Brooklyn for well over 30 something years. And
- 2:16Speaker 3: now we're working on launching a program here on Long
- 2:19Speaker 3: Island as well and it's a very exciting, amazing thing
- 2:23Speaker 3: to be a part of.
- 2:24Speaker 2: I'm Paul Iaccarino, the director at the Building Trades Educational
- 2:28Speaker 2: Benefit Fund.
- 2:29Speaker 1: And Paul, I have to say this.
- 2:31Speaker 2: As I was reading that article, I was reminded by
- 2:33Speaker 2: something I tell people all the time, which is generations
- 2:37Speaker 2: after us are not willing to roll up their sleeves
- 2:40Speaker 2: in the general public.
- 2:41Speaker 1: And so you're.
- 2:41Speaker 2: Finding these dedicated people who are willing to roll up
- 2:44Speaker 2: their sleeves. I guess what can they learn and what
- 2:47Speaker 2: can people that may not want to get into trades
- 2:49Speaker 2: but should be working learn?
- 2:51Speaker 1: How do we get people to roll up their sleeves again?
- 2:52Speaker 2: I guess, you know, is what I'm feeling is we
- 2:55Speaker 2: got to get people to want to roll up their sleeves,
- 2:57Speaker 2: want to get back to work.
- 2:59Speaker 3: Well, we do a great job of informing people what's
- 3:03Speaker 3: expected of them and what they're entitled to receive on
- 3:06Speaker 3: day one. I truly feel that when most Americans see
- 3:11Speaker 3: that they have a clear path that could lead to
- 3:14Speaker 3: a stable, secure career, you get a skill that you
- 3:18Speaker 3: could take anywhere in the world with you and provide
- 3:21Speaker 3: for a family or whatever your goals may be. And
- 3:26Speaker 3: our group happens to come with outstanding benefits. We have
- 3:29Speaker 3: a world-class retirement package, healthcare package, training fund. And it's,
- 3:37Speaker 3: it just, I think some of those things are even
- 3:40Speaker 3: more important than money. So when you see that we
- 3:42Speaker 3: have all of it here, I think there are lots
- 3:45Speaker 3: of folks who are interested in doing this and being
- 3:47Speaker 3: a part of it. And that is why we're ultimately growing.
- 3:51Speaker 2: And how can people support the fund, which is obviously
- 3:53Speaker 2: helping shape people generations after us?
- 3:58Speaker 3: I'm sorry. I just, I missed you for a sec.
- 4:00Speaker 2: How do we help people support your fund to continue
- 4:03Speaker 2: the work you guys are doing?
- 4:05Speaker 3: Oh, well, we work with a great group of contractors.
- 4:10Speaker 3: They don't just contribute and help grow the funds, but
- 4:15Speaker 3: their employees are who we are developing and they, they
- 4:20Speaker 3: have some really great employees that have been around for
- 4:22Speaker 3: a long time that are passing on the job knowledge
- 4:25Speaker 3: and these skills to these young folks coming in. It's,
- 4:29Speaker 3: it's one beautiful storm altogether.
- 4:31Speaker 2: Now you're a millennial as the post says. So what
- 4:34Speaker 2: made you want to start this fund? Did you, you know,
- 4:36Speaker 2: grow up in the trades yourself?
- 4:38Speaker 3: Oh, I did. I did not. And I did not
- 4:40Speaker 3: start this fund. This fund has been here longer for me.
- 4:43Speaker 3: It will be here long after I'm gone. I actually
- 4:47Speaker 3: was an accountant before I was doing this. I was
- 4:50Speaker 3: working on getting my CPA and I decided, hey, this
- 4:55Speaker 3: sounds like more fulfilling. Like I saw something, an opportunity here,
- 5:00Speaker 3: not just for myself, but to help others and use
- 5:04Speaker 3: the skills that I have better than I was in
- 5:06Speaker 3: the field that I was in, even though I was
- 5:09Speaker 3: doing okay there too. And yeah, I mean, it's been
- 5:13Speaker 3: 10 years. I haven't turned back. I've been working here
- 5:16Speaker 3: for 10 years. I've been a director for four. And
- 5:20Speaker 3: it's been rewarding and really fulfilling work.
- 5:24Speaker 2: Paul, how do you get these kids off their iPhone
- 5:26Speaker 2: to say, hey, come join me? I mean, I feel
- 5:28Speaker 2: like everybody's on their phone. Everybody's stuck to it pretty much.
- 5:32Speaker 2: And I can be a part of that times too.
- 5:33Speaker 2: But you got 66% of Gen Zers in this fund.
- 5:40Speaker 1: How do you say, you know what? Get off your
- 5:41Speaker 1: phone and start working. What was your message to them?
- 5:45Speaker 3: Well, it's not just me. Everybody takes a collective part
- 5:49Speaker 3: in it, I would say. But in order to succeed
- 5:52Speaker 3: in any trade, you can't be too distracted. Now, you know,
- 5:56Speaker 3: the cell phones are part of people's everyday lives. And
- 5:59Speaker 3: I think we understand that. But I think the young
- 6:01Speaker 3: ones who are succeeding, they understand that they can't be distracted.
- 6:06Speaker 3: So they do what they must to perform at work well.
- 6:10Speaker 3: They get to class and they do their thing there.
- 6:14Speaker 3: And they continue to advance. You know, I think you,
- 6:19Speaker 3: the more time you spend off the phone, the easier
- 6:22Speaker 3: it is to realize that you don't really need it
- 6:24Speaker 3: so much.
- 6:26Speaker 2: What do you think it is that Gen Zers are
- 6:28Speaker 2: kind of like, okay, the job market sucks right now
- 6:30Speaker 2: and we're not even going to try.
- 6:31Speaker 1: What, what, what's the mentality behind that?
- 6:34Speaker 3: Well, I think a lot of young Americans are afraid.
- 6:39Speaker 3: There is a threat that it, poses some risk but
- 6:44Speaker 3: I'm talking about AI but in reality it's something that
- 6:52Speaker 3: they're faced with and also they just there's a there's
- 6:55Speaker 3: a lot of pressure on young people right now too
- 6:58Speaker 3: because you know no matter how much money you may
- 7:02Speaker 3: make it might not seem like enough especially at times
- 7:05Speaker 3: like these so I think that that is getting some
- 7:08Speaker 3: people jaded and afraid and it's preventing them from even
- 7:13Speaker 3: taking the first step. And my message to those people
- 7:16Speaker 3: would simply be to just take that first step, whatever
- 7:19Speaker 3: it is, in the direction that you want to head.
- 7:22Speaker 3: And then you may feel more courage to take the
- 7:24Speaker 3: next one. You don't have to worry about all the
- 7:27Speaker 3: way down the road at this point in your life.
- 7:30Speaker 2: Now, five-year program for you guys. What can people expect
- 7:35Speaker 2: when they complete the program? Right into a job or
- 7:38Speaker 2: does that take time?
- 7:39Speaker 3: Well, they earn while they... I see this all the time.
- 7:43Speaker 3: You earn while you learn in apprenticeship. You do it
- 7:45Speaker 3: from day one. They all have jobs. We're able to
- 7:48Speaker 3: train them because they already have jobs. And what we're
- 7:52Speaker 3: focused on is developing them and turning them to well-rounded
- 7:55Speaker 3: skilled electricians. So as they get better at what they do,
- 8:01Speaker 3: they will definitely earn higher salaries. Their benefits packages will
- 8:06Speaker 3: get better, especially the retirement one. And they will experience
- 8:11Speaker 3: more opportunities to grow, um, whatever avenue they seek. Wow.
- 8:17Speaker 2: And you know, I see that the age has actually
- 8:19Speaker 2: gotten younger since five years ago. So it's now 26
- 8:23Speaker 2: years old, which means you're recruiting younger. And does that
- 8:26Speaker 2: also mean the willingness is there at a younger age?
- 8:28Speaker 3: Yeah. I, I think, um, there are lots of people
- 8:32Speaker 3: who have been interested in the trades for a long
- 8:34Speaker 3: time and lots of new people who are interested in it.
- 8:37Speaker 3: I think, uh, Not only are they finding their way
- 8:41Speaker 3: to programs like ours easier now because there's more information
- 8:46Speaker 3: and folks available to reach, but on the other end,
- 8:52Speaker 3: there's also a large push for folks in our industry
- 8:56Speaker 3: to educate younger people that this is a perfectly great
- 8:59Speaker 3: opportunity for them and may be more fit for them
- 9:02Speaker 3: than something else that they had thought about.
- 9:05Speaker 2: Paul, I also know that the trades are a generational thing,
- 9:08Speaker 2: like someone's grandfather might have done it, someone's dad might
- 9:11Speaker 2: have done it. Do you find lineage come into play
- 9:13Speaker 2: when these kids say, I want to continue with my family?
- 9:15Speaker 3: Oh, absolutely. Yeah, I think it's clear as day when
- 9:21Speaker 3: your father or your grandfather or somebody else, any relative
- 9:24Speaker 3: really did it. It doesn't just give you confidence, but
- 9:28Speaker 3: you may find it even faster to get to become
- 9:31Speaker 3: informed or informed. understand what this is all about. And
- 9:35Speaker 3: I definitely think that, you know, people are attracted to
- 9:41Speaker 3: who they're associated with.
- 9:43Speaker 2: Now, you partner with the USWU. Are there other unions
- 9:46Speaker 2: you're partnering with or just them specifically?
- 9:48Speaker 3: No, we work with United Service Workers, Local 363A, very proudly. And,
- 9:54Speaker 3: you know, Building Trades Education Fund is is happy to
- 9:58Speaker 3: develop all the electricians that join them or work for
- 10:02Speaker 3: any contractors affiliated with them.
- 10:04Speaker 2: All right having government counting to this did you learn
- 10:06Speaker 2: more about the field than you did before.
- 10:09Speaker 3: Yeah well that's a very um I mean, that question
- 10:15Speaker 3: kind of answers itself, absolutely. It was a new world
- 10:18Speaker 3: when I stepped into it, but I felt a sense
- 10:20Speaker 3: of belonging. As soon as I got here, I'm a
- 10:23Speaker 3: very motivated person, and I really hope that more people
- 10:27Speaker 3: like me continue to join, you know, be a part
- 10:32Speaker 3: of this industry because there's a lot of good work
- 10:34Speaker 3: to do here.
- 10:35Speaker 2: It might be an obvious question, but I feel like
- 10:37Speaker 2: you can see character through work. So how do you
- 10:40Speaker 2: see the development of these kids' characters developing As they
- 10:43Speaker 2: go through the program in five years, you've noticed that.
- 10:46Speaker 3: Oh, absolutely. I don't think that if they, you need
- 10:50Speaker 3: to develop as a person to develop as any, any
- 10:53Speaker 3: type of professional. And we have plenty of time with them,
- 10:59Speaker 3: but their sponsors have even more time with them. And
- 11:01Speaker 3: as they, you know, spend, we work on that first 10,000 hours,
- 11:06Speaker 3: they're surrounded by people that will mold them, um, and
- 11:10Speaker 3: help them become better people.
- 11:13Speaker 2: If you're a parents watching this and their kids struggling
- 11:16Speaker 2: to find something and they're not even interested in this field,
- 11:20Speaker 2: what would the elevator pitch be to parents?
- 11:23Speaker 1: Say, Hey, get your kids in here. They may not
- 11:25Speaker 1: like it now, but in four or five years, they'll
- 11:27Speaker 1: like this, this field.
- 11:29Speaker 3: Well, it doesn't hurt to try. Like I said, sometimes
- 11:32Speaker 3: it's not worrying about all the way at the end
- 11:36Speaker 3: of the road. It's just about taking the first step
- 11:38Speaker 3: and you see how it goes. Everything, for a lot
- 11:42Speaker 3: of these folks, especially these, these young Gen Zers that
- 11:45Speaker 3: we have, everything in their life is completely reversible. So
- 11:50Speaker 3: if they do join this trade or another one program
- 11:53Speaker 3: and it doesn't work out for them, then at least
- 11:55Speaker 3: they can say that they tried.
- 11:58Speaker 2: Do you see, so we're 250 years young, right? As
- 12:01Speaker 2: a country, do you see male fatigue in the, you know,
- 12:05Speaker 2: not wanting to apply actually hurt America's change to keep forward?
- 12:09Speaker 2: I mean, do you, don't you think that males working
- 12:12Speaker 2: will continue moving this country forward?
- 12:15Speaker 3: Yes, I think it's vital. I mean, young, strong men,
- 12:20Speaker 3: even regardless of age, really strong minded individuals, leaders, good
- 12:29Speaker 3: leaders is what this world needs more of. I'm happy
- 12:33Speaker 3: that I can sort of make an impact on that.
- 12:37Speaker 3: And I do think that there is a fatigue factor
- 12:41Speaker 3: for sure that we are in combat with right now.
- 12:45Speaker 3: A lot of people like me are with. But again,
- 12:49Speaker 3: it's about taking one step at a time. And there
- 12:53Speaker 3: are lots of factors that weigh into it that we
- 12:56Speaker 3: don't really have control over. So we just do our
- 12:59Speaker 3: best to help each individual that enters our program.
- 13:02Speaker 2: Now you were brought on top of the male side,
- 13:03Speaker 2: but do you have female electricians that are, that are in? Oh, absolutely.
- 13:07Speaker 3: Yes. And that, that number is growing as well. I
- 13:09Speaker 3: would definitely say that there are far less, uh, females
- 13:13Speaker 3: who are interested in, uh, you know, doing the physical
- 13:17Speaker 3: regularist work of our electrician, but that doesn't mean there
- 13:20Speaker 3: are none. Uh, we're always thrilled when we get women, um,
- 13:24Speaker 3: they bring a different flavor. I'll call it into the workforce.
- 13:28Speaker 3: And it's, it just helps everybody else be better in
- 13:32Speaker 3: some way or another. The program has, I would say
- 13:35Speaker 3: we graduated and we've gained four or five women in
- 13:40Speaker 3: the past two years. Amazing.
- 13:42Speaker 1: All right.
- 13:43Speaker 2: I want to talk about, cause I'm going to air
- 13:45Speaker 2: this today on September 10th. We're all sort of gearing
- 13:48Speaker 2: up to remember nine 11 and obviously the electricians, the
- 13:51Speaker 2: trades unions lost a lot of people on nine 11.
- 13:55Speaker 2: So what kind of stories can you share about, Because
- 13:57Speaker 2: you were mentioning to me off air a couple of
- 13:59Speaker 2: stories of those that have fallen and that were part
- 14:02Speaker 2: of this union.
- 14:02Speaker 3: Yes, and I have personally heard so many that I
- 14:05Speaker 3: don't want to be too specific or quote anybody's circumstance
- 14:11Speaker 3: and say something that isn't true. But what I do
- 14:15Speaker 3: know is there are many families that were impacted by 9-11.
- 14:22Speaker 3: And it's a great thing that we could be a
- 14:25Speaker 3: part of It's great that we were working before it happened.
- 14:30Speaker 3: We're very proud New Yorkers and Americans. And, you know, altogether,
- 14:37Speaker 3: it's just it's it's an emotional thing. I remember where
- 14:43Speaker 3: I was on 9-11, even though I was just a
- 14:46Speaker 3: young kid. I'm sure everybody does.
- 14:48Speaker 1: I was in fifth grade. I don't know about you,
- 14:50Speaker 1: but I was in fifth grade at the time.
- 14:52Speaker 3: I was in second grade. Oh, my God. Yeah. Yes.
- 14:56Speaker 3: I remember getting off the bus and hearing all about
- 14:59Speaker 3: it and then, you know, seeing the hysteria set in basically.
- 15:04Speaker 3: It was traumatic. But again, it's knowing something like that
- 15:11Speaker 3: happened and being a part of something like that in
- 15:13Speaker 3: some way, shape or form. It just helps you understand,
- 15:18Speaker 3: you know, how precious humanity is and that you want
- 15:22Speaker 3: to do anything that you can to help other people out.
- 15:24Speaker 3: and here in this program and this group that we
- 15:28Speaker 3: have here that is definitely shared.
- 15:31Speaker 2: Let me ask you this, the, um, the graduation from
- 15:35Speaker 2: a five-year program, how exciting is that moment when these
- 15:38Speaker 2: kids graduate, you know, it's gotta be rewarding.
- 15:41Speaker 3: We have been having graduation ceremonies for, I don't know,
- 15:45Speaker 3: at least 40 years. Um, so far that I can't
- 15:48Speaker 3: even track when the first one was, it is, one
- 15:52Speaker 3: of my favorite nights of the year. It is a
- 15:54Speaker 3: great event and it is kind of just, even though
- 15:58Speaker 3: it's one night, it's the culmination of all their hard work.
- 16:02Speaker 3: It's a significant milestone and everybody is so happy to
- 16:06Speaker 3: revel in that. We get lots of guests. It's a very,
- 16:09Speaker 3: very great thing that we do.
- 16:12Speaker 2: And I'm sure you get some amazing progress reports as
- 16:15Speaker 2: things go along for them after the program.
- 16:18Speaker 3: Yes. Yeah. Well, I believe that apprenticeship is a great
- 16:22Speaker 3: factor for retention in general. I think that the apprenticeship
- 16:26Speaker 3: training model, when you have somebody that put in that
- 16:29Speaker 3: much time and effort into developing their skills, not only
- 16:35Speaker 3: have they earned a place in the workforce, but they
- 16:40Speaker 3: also desire it. They've shown that they desire it. So
- 16:43Speaker 3: those two things meet in a great place normally. And
- 16:46Speaker 3: I think that retention figures are higher for graduates than
- 16:50Speaker 3: people who don't through an apprenticeship program.
- 16:55Speaker 2: So it's the benefit fund, which means these people get
- 16:58Speaker 2: to do this and learn and get paid, as you say,
- 17:02Speaker 2: but also not have to pay back into it, I
- 17:05Speaker 2: guess you'd say, because it's free.
- 17:08Speaker 1: Where do you want to see it grow? You're only
- 17:10Speaker 1: a millennial, right? So you've been doing this and you're
- 17:12Speaker 1: a young kid still. So where do you want to
- 17:14Speaker 1: see this grow?
- 17:15Speaker 3: Right now, we are so busy getting this next center open.
- 17:21Speaker 3: I don't want to be focused on anything else. You know,
- 17:27Speaker 3: it's great to be a part of growth. It's so exciting.
- 17:32Speaker 3: And everybody, it's a win, win, win for everybody involved.
- 17:37Speaker 3: And I'm really excited for our trainees and our apprentices
- 17:41Speaker 3: that live out on Long Island because They're going to
- 17:44Speaker 3: get to be our first students and help build the
- 17:47Speaker 3: culture of the new facility as well. But ultimately, I'm
- 17:53Speaker 3: just happy to be a part of it. I'm not
- 17:56Speaker 3: looking for any specific metrics or anything like that at all.
- 18:00Speaker 3: I think that it's nice to have growth and more
- 18:05Speaker 3: specifically as we get more good electricians and more great
- 18:12Speaker 3: people who want to be a part of this. Everybody wins.
- 18:20Speaker 1: Absolutely, Paul. So I got to ask you this.
- 18:22Speaker 2: So you were in second grade 25 years ago. So
- 18:24Speaker 2: you got to be about 22, 23.
- 18:27Speaker 1: How old are you now?
- 18:29Speaker 3: I'm 32. 32 now. Okay. Sorry.
- 18:31Speaker 1: I was a little off. That's right.
- 18:34Speaker 2: Well, even so you're, you're young at this. So as
- 18:37Speaker 2: an entrepreneur, right? How do we get, more people in
- 18:40Speaker 2: the thirties, more involved. I feel like we can be
- 18:43Speaker 2: leaders at a very, at a young age in their thirties. But,
- 18:46Speaker 2: but again, there has to be a willingness there, right?
- 18:48Speaker 2: So when did you grow that willingness to be like, okay,
- 18:50Speaker 2: I'm going to run something.
- 18:51Speaker 3: I'm going to run it well. It's all about breaking
- 18:55Speaker 3: it down and taking it one step at a time, man. You,
- 18:58Speaker 3: you can not do anything great. Well, you can have
- 19:03Speaker 3: a great day, but you cannot achieve anything truly great
- 19:07Speaker 3: in one day. And, Just doing something towards whatever your
- 19:12Speaker 3: goal may be is the best thing to do all
- 19:15Speaker 3: the time. And I think that as people do more
- 19:19Speaker 3: of that, they will go after even more of it
- 19:23Speaker 3: because they will feel good. They'll feel good from it.
- 19:27Speaker 3: It'll be very positive. And it's just a mindset. I
- 19:31Speaker 3: think mental health is so important. I know a lot
- 19:35Speaker 3: of mental health is about addressing problems, but I believe
- 19:39Speaker 3: in using it as a solution. You want to be
- 19:43Speaker 3: very sharp and focused and dedicated to whatever it is
- 19:49Speaker 3: that you love.
- 19:51Speaker 2: Well, it's interesting because I also do adaptability and I
- 19:53Speaker 2: feel like you're a perfect story of adapting.
- 19:55Speaker 1: You went from accounting to this.
- 19:56Speaker 2: So as I guess we touched on earlier, don't be
- 20:00Speaker 2: afraid to adapt into something new, I guess, is the point,
- 20:02Speaker 2: isn't it?
- 20:03Speaker 3: Yes, I was happy to try it. And I've been
- 20:07Speaker 3: very blessed my whole life to have such a great
- 20:10Speaker 3: support system and network of people. Who you surround yourself
- 20:14Speaker 3: with is so important. And I've always had a great,
- 20:17Speaker 3: great pool of people around me that love me. And
- 20:21Speaker 3: I've always had help. So even at that moment in
- 20:24Speaker 3: my life, when I was debating going further into accounting
- 20:28Speaker 3: or starting something new, which was this, I had people
- 20:32Speaker 3: that helped me and guide me and gave me some
- 20:34Speaker 3: great advice. And I actually, you know, shared a little
- 20:38Speaker 3: bit of it today. Some of it was that when
- 20:41Speaker 3: you're young, your life, everything is so reversible. So it just, it,
- 20:46Speaker 3: it's better to just try things.
- 20:49Speaker 2: How about the, so some of these kids probably went
- 20:51Speaker 2: through college first, right? And then they're like, Oh my God,
- 20:53Speaker 2: another few years of school. But Should they look at
- 20:57Speaker 2: it like that or they should look at it as,
- 20:59Speaker 2: all right, this is hands-on. You're not going to be
- 21:00Speaker 2: in the classroom the whole time.
- 21:01Speaker 3: I think that education is so important no matter what
- 21:04Speaker 3: you do, no matter where you go. The moment you
- 21:08Speaker 3: stop learning is the moment that your career, well, it's
- 21:12Speaker 3: the beginning of the end. I'll call it. You always
- 21:16Speaker 3: want to be a student. You always want to be
- 21:18Speaker 3: learning new things about whatever it is that you're doing.
- 21:21Speaker 3: You always want to try to improve. And training is
- 21:24Speaker 3: all about that. So, Try to look at it. Was
- 21:28Speaker 3: the glass half full? And you'll be surprised what you
- 21:32Speaker 3: could get out of it.
- 21:34Speaker 1: Well, I normally like to follow up.
- 21:36Speaker 2: So either I'd love to be out there when you
- 21:38Speaker 2: guys open the new new one to be at the
- 21:40Speaker 2: grand opening.
- 21:41Speaker 1: When is that?
- 21:42Speaker 3: Absolutely. We don't have a day plan. We have lots
- 21:44Speaker 3: of work and construction planned, a lot of stuff to
- 21:47Speaker 3: do before we're there. But I can't wait. I cannot wait.
- 21:52Speaker 3: It's thrilling and it's taken a lot of time and
- 21:57Speaker 3: work and we're getting at it.
- 22:01Speaker 2: Well, I normally cover sports and news, but I want
- 22:03Speaker 2: to take time out today because what you're doing is
- 22:06Speaker 2: you're helping, and I'm guessing this is not just New
- 22:08Speaker 2: York or is it New York tri-state area?
- 22:09Speaker 1: What's the region?
- 22:10Speaker 3: Yeah, I will say we are expanding. There is some
- 22:15Speaker 3: work in tri-state area for sure, but The focus and
- 22:20Speaker 3: the roots are, will always be in New York.
- 22:22Speaker 2: And I firmly believe what you guys are doing is
- 22:24Speaker 2: really almost saving the workforce by having this program. You're
- 22:29Speaker 2: literally bringing people in that may have been scared, afraid,
- 22:32Speaker 2: nervous of this market and saying, no, we're going to
- 22:35Speaker 2: help you roll up your sleeves. We'll be with you
- 22:36Speaker 2: by every, every step of the way, but we're going
- 22:38Speaker 2: to help you get there. You know, and that's so important.
- 22:40Speaker 3: We are doing what we can passionately.
- 22:43Speaker 1: I feel it. All right, Paul. I agree. No, thank
- 22:45Speaker 1: you so much for joining us. And where can we
- 22:47Speaker 1: find your website?
- 22:49Speaker 3: Our website is www.bteducationfund.org. All right.
- 22:54Speaker 2: We'll put that in the link below as well. All right, Paul,
- 22:56Speaker 2: thanks for joining me at One Look Up Alex Media.
- 22:58Speaker 2: And truly, when I was reading the article, I said,
- 23:00Speaker 2: this fund, this guy is helping people have one look
- 23:03Speaker 2: up on life.
- 23:04Speaker 1: So I commend you for that.
- 23:06Speaker 3: Sure thing, Alex. It was nice to meet you. Go Yankees.
- 23:11Speaker 3: I know.
- 23:11Speaker 1: I'm going tonight.
- 23:12Speaker 2: And of course, they were a big part of the
- 23:14Speaker 2: 9-11 recovery in that year.
- 23:16Speaker 1: So I got to honor them too.
- 23:17Speaker 3: All right.
- 23:18Speaker 1: Thanks so much, Paul.
- 23:20Speaker 3: Take care.