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Credlin | 12 March · Credlin

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Speaker 1: Pedo Krandland live on Sky News Australia.
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Speaker 2: Good evening, Welcome to the program. Here's what's coming up
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Speaker 2: tonight on Kredline. Now I warned you about this, the
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Speaker 2: power bill pain that labor was trying to bury before
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Speaker 2: the election. Well, because of cyclone Alfred, you'll now see
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Speaker 2: the new prices before you vote, and the increases are
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Speaker 2: set to cause further pain. A breakthrough in the stylemate
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Speaker 2: between the US and Ukraine, President Zelinski accepting a cease
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Speaker 2: fire deal, meaning the balls now in Putin's court? Does
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Speaker 2: this mean Australian troops as.
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Speaker 3: A peacekeeping force?
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Speaker 2: That update coming up class a landmark High Court decision
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Speaker 2: on indigenous land rights. Legal experts have labeled it marbo
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Speaker 2: on steroids.
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Speaker 3: It could cost federal taxpayers.
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Speaker 2: That's you billions of dollars in compensation and time runs out.
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Speaker 2: The labor to secure a carve out on Donald Trump's tariffs,
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Speaker 2: Australia unable to secure an exemption at our Prime minister
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Speaker 2: unable to get a call returned from the President.
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Speaker 4: The Prime Minister can't secure a phone call a little
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Speaker 4: at a meeting with the President of the United States,
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Speaker 4: And how on earth can an outcome be negotiated. If
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Speaker 4: the President won't even take the Prime minister's call.
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Speaker 3: We will stay with that issue.
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Speaker 2: Cyclone Donald was always going to hit Australia eventually. Today
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Speaker 2: it made landfall where a twenty five percent tariff hit
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Speaker 2: on Australia's one billion dollar a year steal and aluminum
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Speaker 2: exports to the United States. Now this has been coming
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Speaker 2: for weeks and it's nothing short of negligent for the
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Speaker 2: Albanezy government took no meaningful action to head it off.
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Speaker 2: A sure Foreign Minister Petty one went to the Trump inauguration.
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Speaker 2: Defense Minister Richard Miles, Well, he went off to meet
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Speaker 2: his US counterpart with a check for nearly a billion
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Speaker 2: dollars towards those new Virginia Class nuclear subs that we
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Speaker 2: might get early next decade.
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Speaker 3: But given that the.
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Speaker 2: British Prime Minister, the French President, the Indian and the
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Speaker 2: Japanese prime ministers, our ucust partner and our Court partner
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Speaker 2: leaders have all made the pilgrimage to Washington, it's less
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Speaker 2: an unforgivable complacency, more a dereliction of duty that Anthony
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Speaker 2: Albanezi never went.
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Speaker 3: And now it's too late.
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Speaker 2: Certainly it's too late to avoid this hit on our
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Speaker 2: hard pressed steel and aluminum industries already suffering from Labour's
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Speaker 2: carbon tax by stealth and ow hit with even further
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Speaker 2: costs in this big export market.
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Speaker 3: Now, this is a.
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Speaker 2: PM who couldn't stay out of the plane so much
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Speaker 2: so is called airbus elbow. And yet it couldn't stir
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Speaker 2: himself to beat personally with this most transactional and status
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Speaker 2: conscious president at a time when he might have looked
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Speaker 2: respectful rather than desperate. Even though, as the twoing and
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Speaker 2: frome between the US and Canada shows, which today averted
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Speaker 2: more tariffs on Canadian steel, the Trump administration can be
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Speaker 2: persuaded to withdraw threatened measures if they're approached properly. Today
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Speaker 2: the Prime Minister said that Trump tariffs were and I
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Speaker 2: quote not a positive step in our relationship with the US.
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Speaker 5: Such a decision by the Trump administration is entirely unjustified.
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Speaker 5: Friends need to act in a way that reinforces to
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Speaker 5: our respective populations the fact that we are friends.
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Speaker 2: The real power broker in the government, Penny wong Or
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Speaker 2: she went further, We think it is unprovoked and unjustified,
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Speaker 2: and I know it's not good for the American economy
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Speaker 2: and it's not the way to treat a friend and partner.
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Speaker 2: Trying to shut down legitimate criticism of Anthony Albanezi. The
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Speaker 2: Prime Minister said, this is where everyone should be advocating,
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Speaker 2: he says, for Australia's national interest. Don't criticize me, but not,
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Speaker 2: it seems by actually doing it face to face, which
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Speaker 2: any half half diligent prime minister would have done, but
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Speaker 2: not the one we actually have so bad it was
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Speaker 2: that the Prime Minister was even forced to admit he
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Speaker 2: couldn't get his calls returned from the White House.
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Speaker 6: Are you disappointed that requests to have second phone calls
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Speaker 6: with Trump couldn't be fulfilled?
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Speaker 4: Friends should pick up the phone, shouldn't.
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Speaker 5: The web engaged, Web engaged, including through writing, including at
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Speaker 5: senior levels of the government.
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Speaker 7: People would be aware.
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Speaker 5: The Treasurer, the Trade Minister, range of the Foreign Minister
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Speaker 5: have all visited and have all engaged.
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Speaker 3: I think it's humiliating.
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Speaker 2: I mean I have been in the Prime Minister's office
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Speaker 2: when you book the calls with the United States and
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Speaker 2: when they come back into Australia from the White House.
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Speaker 2: The fact that he couldn't get a call I just
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Speaker 2: find extraordinary now Peter Dutton didn't miss when he called
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Speaker 2: the PM Weeken in competent, because that call isn't just
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Speaker 2: with the leader of the White House, the leader the
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Speaker 2: free world, it's with our most important and trusted ally.
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Speaker 4: It's obvious that Anthony Albanesi and Kevin Right have had
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Speaker 4: a shoka. The Prime Minister can't secure a phone call
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Speaker 4: a little at a meeting with the President of the
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Speaker 4: United States, and how on earth can an outcome be
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Speaker 4: negotiated if the President won't even take the Prime minister's call.
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Speaker 2: Remember it wasn't so long ago that Anthony Alberanesi went
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Speaker 2: to town criticizing Scott Morrison when the then Prime Minister
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Speaker 2: couldn't get his calls returned by the Chinese leadership, when
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Speaker 2: the commissars in Beijing slapped arbitrary bands on twenty billion
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Speaker 2: dollars worth of our trade.
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Speaker 5: What we need is a plan of intervention. It's not
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Speaker 5: good enough to say, oh, well, no one will take
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Speaker 5: our call at less.
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Speaker 2: Morrison tried, and Morrison's fight was with a regime that
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Speaker 2: started a global pandemic. This guy Albanesi hasn't even tried.
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Speaker 2: Now he can get on a plane and go to
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Speaker 2: the tennis sicket, get on a plane to watch his
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Speaker 2: favorite rabbit os, but to try and save our steel jobs.
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Speaker 2: He clearly couldn't make the effort now, sure, especially given
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Speaker 2: the free trade deal that the HOW government did with
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Speaker 2: the US the USFTA. The imposition of tariffs on a
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Speaker 2: friend and ally under emergency powers, well, it's a low blow.
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Speaker 2: A tariff is a tax on imports, pure and simple,
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Speaker 2: that will ultimately be paid by American consumers in higher
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Speaker 2: prices for steel and aluminum, whether that's less efficiently produced
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Speaker 2: local products or now the higher priced imports from places
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Speaker 2: like Australia. But and it's a significant but if a
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Speaker 2: country feels that it can't do without a particular local industry,
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Speaker 2: and maybe that tariffs are at least a potential way
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Speaker 2: to ensure its survival, the new US administration wants to
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Speaker 2: end America's dependence on imports in critical sectors, especially sectors
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Speaker 2: that are vital to defense industries, which obviously steal an
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Speaker 2: aluminum are We would have had much more chance of
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Speaker 2: getting an exemption if the PM had personally gone to
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Speaker 2: Washington to explain that the main problem here is not
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Speaker 2: our exports to America, all Canadas, of Britain, even those
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Speaker 2: from the EU. It's Chinese exports because it's communist China
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Speaker 2: that's exploited its admission into the global economy thanks to
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Speaker 2: Bill Clinton as US President, welcoming China into the wto
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Speaker 2: to become. In Clinton's words, these words will haunt us
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Speaker 2: all in the West, the factory to the world under
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Speaker 2: the commissars in Beijing. China has stolen technology, manipulated markets,
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Speaker 2: use secret subsidies to achieve a dominant position in many industries,
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Speaker 2: including in the production of solar panels and wind turbines
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Speaker 2: that our government foolishly thinks we need more and more of.
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Speaker 2: It's China that's become critical to so many supply chains
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Speaker 2: because domestic businesses, putting short term cost reductions ahead of
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Speaker 2: long term national interest have subcontracted so much of their
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Speaker 2: immediate production to Beijing. President Trump wants to end the
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Speaker 2: offshoring of American industries to save blue collar jobs and
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Speaker 2: to boost America's economic resilience. Now, who can blame him,
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Speaker 2: That's what he was elected to do. It's just that
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Speaker 2: so far he's hurting America's friends more than he's hurting
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Speaker 2: its deadly rival in China. Now, the only way here
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Speaker 2: to change any of this is to make the case
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Speaker 2: respectfully and in person, not cowering in Canberra because you're
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Speaker 2: weak and don't know that the only way to win
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Speaker 2: over Trump is to get on a plane and.
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Speaker 3: Cut a bloody deal.
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Speaker 2: What if other things happening though, Ruben Spargo's in Camber
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Speaker 2: now with the headlines.
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Speaker 7: Donald Trump's tariffs on Australia steel and aluminium have come
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Speaker 7: into effect after requests for an exemption were denied. The
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Speaker 7: news was broken to Ambassador Kevin Rudd during an early
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Speaker 7: morning meeting with the United States Commons Secretary.
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Speaker 5: This is against the spirit of our two nations enduring
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Speaker 5: friendship and fundamentally at odds with the benefits that our
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Speaker 5: economic partnership has delivered.
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Speaker 7: The Prime Minister has been unable to get the President
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Speaker 7: on the phone since their last call on February eleven.
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Speaker 4: The Prime Minister is on his knees and can't even
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Speaker 4: get a phone call or a meeting with the President
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Speaker 4: of the United States, our closest delay.
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Speaker 7: The Opposition is questioning the government's initial response to the
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Speaker 7: caravan hoapes. Australian Federal Police revealed it was orchestrated by
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Speaker 7: known criminals and was not intended to cause a mass
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Speaker 7: casualty event. The Home Affairs Minister is accusing Peter Dutton
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Speaker 7: of deliberately avoiding briefings on the plot to continue making
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Speaker 7: outrageous claims about the Dural caravan hoax. Mister Dutton denies this.
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Speaker 4: This is an issue that has blown up in the
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Speaker 4: government's face. To be honest, I mean, where's Tony Burke today.
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Speaker 4: Tony Burke's gone to ground because he humiliated himself yesterday.
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Speaker 8: If the Prime Minister.
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Speaker 4: Had knowledge that this was a hoax, why didn't he
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Speaker 4: tell the Jewish community to try and assuage some of
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Speaker 4: their fears that they rightly had.
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Speaker 7: Climate two hundreds founder is rejecting claims he sought removal
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Speaker 7: from the Australian Financial Reviews Power List via a TLMP
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Speaker 7: Simon Holmes. The court insists he maintains a hands off
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Speaker 7: approach with any MPs elected with Climate two hundred support.
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Speaker 7: The AFR reported a Legras spender visited the paper's office
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Speaker 7: on behalf of mister Holmes the court to ask a favor.
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Speaker 7: She requested he be removed from the list before its
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Speaker 7: release because he did not want to be on it.
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Speaker 9: I have never asked any MP to ask a question
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Speaker 9: of anything from any one.
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Speaker 7: Ruben Spargo, Sky News Canberra.
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Speaker 2: All right, let's get across all of those headlines, now
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Speaker 2: enjoined by Sky News Hope, National Affairs Editor, The Danny Telegraph,
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Speaker 2: James Morrow, One Nation Chief of Staff James Ashby. Gents welcome.
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Speaker 2: I guess we shouldn't be surprised here, James Morrow. He
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Speaker 2: couldn't carve out some sort of exemption here for Australia because.
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Speaker 3: The PM talks tough, but forced to.
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Speaker 2: Admit today he couldn't get a call returned from the
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Speaker 2: White House, or made the point I know exactly how
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Speaker 2: you book those calls, and not to get one returned,
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Speaker 2: things are pretty crook. He was elected in Nova Ma
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Speaker 2: Donald Trump, the PM could have seen him at any opportunity,
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Speaker 2: but he hasn't. He's also left in place an ambassador
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Speaker 2: that's repeatedly sneered at the president Al I know from
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Speaker 2: insiders in the White House there's no love lost with
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Speaker 2: Kevin rad the Foreign Minister. Well, she can woo all
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Speaker 2: the Palestinians at the UN, she has virtually no entree
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Speaker 2: herself with the administration. So are you surprised that Australia's
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Speaker 2: lost out here?
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Speaker 10: Well, no, Peter, I'm really not. I'm glad that you
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Speaker 10: played that clip of the Prime Minister back before when
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Speaker 10: he was criticizing Scott Morrison, because hey, you know, it
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Speaker 10: looks like ethne Albeasy has finally discovered that Prime ministering.
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Speaker 11: It's hard.
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Speaker 10: It's a hard thing to do, and it's not as
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Speaker 10: easy as just going out and making glib statements like that.
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Speaker 10: As you say, we've had this November to start working
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Speaker 10: on this relationship. That Kevin Ruddy issue has been a
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Speaker 10: live one since well before Donald Trump's election. I remember
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Speaker 10: speaking with you about whether or not he would be
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Speaker 10: tenable as a choice to continue in that role as ambassador,
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Speaker 10: and I think we spoke about how that wouldn't work.
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Speaker 10: It just would be a nonsensical idea to keep him
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Speaker 10: in that role. Here we are, so you know, there's
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Speaker 10: been nothing given to Donald Trump, a very transactional guy,
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Speaker 10: on that. But it's also important to understand, Peter, how
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Speaker 10: the Americans look at Australia and how the Trump administration
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Speaker 10: looks Australia. And you know, for Trump, Australia is a
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Speaker 10: cautionary tale when it comes to free trade and energy policies.
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Speaker 10: They see US as a country that has has used
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Speaker 10: free trade to lower consumer prices but lose all of
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Speaker 10: our manufacturing and at the same time have world high
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Speaker 10: energy prices, meaning we can't get it back, and they
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Speaker 10: see Australia as a cautionary tale. So you have to
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Speaker 10: understand the way Trump thinks about the world. When you
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Speaker 10: understand why he's acting like that, and you know our
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Speaker 10: own policies and our own behavior, I think he looks
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Speaker 10: at it and says, why would you have done this with
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Speaker 10: your country, you know, when you had all of this
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Speaker 10: good stuff going for you.
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Speaker 2: And this is where I've got sympathy for what he's
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Speaker 2: doing in relation to China less so obviously Australia, James.
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Speaker 2: But when we were there in the pandemic, we only
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Speaker 2: had one factory in country Victoria that made masks, so
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Speaker 2: much of our products we were sourcing from our shore.
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Speaker 2: Those supply chains were stopped. It was only about a
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Speaker 2: year ago we had issues with saale for hospitals. We
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Speaker 2: had one manufacturer only here. We have to import all
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Speaker 2: this sale line, which is just salty water. For God's sake,
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Speaker 2: but he is trying to avoid where we were in
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Speaker 2: the pandemic and still are if something was to happen
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Speaker 2: where we are completely dependent on China. He doesn't want
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Speaker 2: that to happen to the US and he wants jobs
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Speaker 2: and vibrant communities in that Roussvelt.
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Speaker 12: Well, Australia has been on economic suicide watch for at
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Speaker 12: least the last ten years. That's why there's been such
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Speaker 12: high immigration because it's propped up GDP. Where we've lost
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Speaker 12: the manufacturing to other countries, We've had to make up
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Speaker 12: that cash somewhere and immigration on both watches. The Coalition
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Speaker 12: brought in over three point two million in the nine
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Speaker 12: years they are in government, and now labor have put
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Speaker 12: that on steroids again. We've signed ridiculous agreements we've seen
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Speaker 12: the Coalition. I remember David Little Proud saying the Nationals
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Speaker 12: signed on to net zero because otherwise we would have
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Speaker 12: faced tariffs from EU neighboring countries or those that we
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Speaker 12: do trade with. We know that tariffs can be implemented
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Speaker 12: by any country, and yet we've got weak, livid government
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Speaker 12: officials here that have destroyed the windscreen industry here in Australia,
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Speaker 12: who can buy windscreens delivered to an automobile shop for
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Speaker 12: thirty bucks in this country, yet we can't produce them
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Speaker 12: for any less than one hundred and thirty.
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Speaker 11: Why didn't we stop that? Why are we allowing.
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Speaker 12: Now salmon fresh salmon phillips to be brought into Australia
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Speaker 12: sold at the Sydney Fish Market when we've got a
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Speaker 12: perfectly good industry that's operational in Tasmania.
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Speaker 11: And our Labour say they support that. The Greens don't.
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Speaker 12: But it seems to me these governments have been hell
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Speaker 12: bent on destroying our manufacturing and our capabilities to be
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Speaker 12: self reliant as a country.
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Speaker 11: And where are we now.
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Speaker 12: We're staring down the barrel of economic obliteration, not just
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Speaker 12: in aluminium and steel, but so many other industries.
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Speaker 11: Shame on them both.
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Speaker 2: I might add that the line manufacturer in Australia, architectural glass,
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Speaker 2: it went under in Melbourne just the other month. Let's
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Speaker 2: go to the speech today by Climate two hundred founders,
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Speaker 2: Simon Holmes a Court the National Plus Club in Canbra.
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Speaker 2: Unfortunately I've got to show you the news. He's a
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Speaker 2: little of what he had to say.
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Speaker 9: The Coalition is still the greatest threat to climate action.
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Speaker 9: This election is truly a sliding doors moment for our country.
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Speaker 9: Will we import authoritarian populism from Trump's white house? Climate
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Speaker 9: two hundred does not start campaigns. Climate two hundred does
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Speaker 9: not run campaigns. Climate two hundred does not target seats
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Speaker 9: or select candidates. Climate two hundred comes to these campaigns
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Speaker 9: relatively late in the game.
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Speaker 2: Well we really took one for the team there, James,
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Speaker 2: watching that rubbish? I mean, is he for real? A
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Speaker 2: group unifies and funds a band of peal independents. They've
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Speaker 2: all got the same branding, they all vote the same
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Speaker 2: way in the house.
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Speaker 3: They even live in the same house, some of them
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Speaker 3: in camera. Please.
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Speaker 2: They are as cozy and connected as any political party
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Speaker 2: I've ever seen. And hey's the boss man, you know,
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Speaker 2: as you know, in politics, a blow as signs the
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Speaker 2: checks holds the power.
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Speaker 3: Hey, count pretend otherwise?
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Speaker 10: Yeah, well that's right. I mean, this is the sort
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Speaker 10: of thing. I'm listening to them do that speech at
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Speaker 10: the Press Club and I'm thinking, well, you know, I
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Speaker 10: believe you have millions, wouldn't you've laid it out there
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Speaker 10: very well?
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Speaker 11: Here?
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Speaker 10: This is this organization, it is, you know, in everything,
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Speaker 10: but name it acts and you know, walks and talks,
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Speaker 10: you know, like the proverbial doc like the proverbial party.
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Speaker 10: And there's no there's no way around that. And you know,
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Speaker 10: with the exception of people like a Legraspender who have
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Speaker 10: a bit of independence, and I think that's because they've
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Speaker 10: got a bit of their own money as well. You know,
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Speaker 10: this group really is a voting block. That's why we
17:50
Speaker 10: talk about them as the tills. They are a block.
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Speaker 10: You know, you can call it a block. You can
17:55
Speaker 10: call a party called a block party, but it's the
17:57
Speaker 10: same thing.
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Speaker 2: Yes, And I only choked on my coffee when I
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Speaker 2: saw in the crowd Tony Windsor because he was basically
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Speaker 2: a vandal. The last time we had a hung parliament,
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Speaker 2: James Ashby, you and I were both there and it
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Speaker 2: was a It was a terrible circumstance for our country.
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Speaker 12: It was, and we're still paying for that to some extent,
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Speaker 12: really after the Gillard rud days.
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Speaker 11: There's no doubt that this is a political party.
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Speaker 12: They may not be officially registered as one through the
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Speaker 12: Electoral Commission, but they act like one. They're funding each other,
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Speaker 12: they go by the same brand and you've pointed all
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Speaker 12: this stuff out Simon Holmes Court, I.
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Speaker 11: Might just say I was quite surprised he wasn't.
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Speaker 12: The largest of their donors when those details came out
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Speaker 12: only in the last couple of months. But he certainly
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Speaker 12: pulls the strings. He's certainly the front man for them.
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Speaker 12: They have a website, unlike last time, where you can
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Speaker 12: see precisely who they've given money to. If you're worried
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Speaker 12: about the Teales, as I am, they're nothing but an
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Speaker 12: obnoxious set of Greens. Make sure you go their website,
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Speaker 12: know exactly who they are, what they stand for, because
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Speaker 12: your preferences at this election count, and if you don't
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Speaker 12: want them elected, if you don't want them holding the
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Speaker 12: balance of power in the next government, by all means,
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Speaker 12: just just know what you're voting for.
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Speaker 11: I say that to everyone. I don't care who you
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Speaker 11: vote for.
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Speaker 12: Just know what you're voting for and what they stand
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Speaker 12: for in this next parliament.
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Speaker 2: So true, James Ashby, Let's go down to Victoria a
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Speaker 2: massive backflip, Miya culper the whole box and dice for Victoria.
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Speaker 2: Premier just into Allen today fronting the cameras with a
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Speaker 2: shameless announcement on the state's bail laws.
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Speaker 13: We have acted with urgency. Last month I directed the
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Speaker 13: Police Minister and the Attorney to do this work. We
19:42
Speaker 13: are here today introducing the toughest bail laws in the country,
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Speaker 13: and we will be putting to the Parliament that the
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Speaker 13: Parliament needs to act with the same urgency that the
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Speaker 13: government has acted. Putting community safety front and center of
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Speaker 13: bail decision making considerations just makes sense in terms of
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Speaker 13: the twenty twenty three changes. I do acknowledge we got
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Speaker 13: it wrong. I'm deeply sorry for the hurt and pain
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Speaker 13: and trauma that victims have experienced in any instance of crime.
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Speaker 2: Well, so she should be sorry, James Morrow, she should
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Speaker 2: be sorry. But I mean, Labor has governed the state
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Speaker 2: of Victoria in the last twenty five years basically the
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Speaker 2: entire time, but for one term only of the Liberal Party,
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Speaker 2: So they wear this and I don't think any Victorian's
20:30
Speaker 2: got trust that they can reform these laws.
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Speaker 10: Well no, and you know, you know, I just this
20:38
Speaker 10: is like, you know, it's like they just got sorry
20:40
Speaker 10: that they that they're just sorry that they got caught
20:42
Speaker 10: out with this here. They don't believe this stuff. Listen,
20:44
Speaker 10: could just sender that out of there. You know, Oh,
20:46
Speaker 10: I'm so sorry for the victims. I'm so sorry for this. Well,
20:50
Speaker 10: if they were sorry about the victims and the crime,
20:53
Speaker 10: you know, they would have spent years sneering at people
20:57
Speaker 10: who said that there was a problem in Victoria. Everyone
20:59
Speaker 10: knows that there's been a big youth crime crisis in Victoria.
21:02
Speaker 10: I remember when Peter doesn't talked about it, you know,
21:04
Speaker 10: people being afraid to go out to eat, you know,
21:06
Speaker 10: the lesson. Oh, how ridiculous. You know, there's no crime
21:10
Speaker 10: crisis in Victoria, and it would became a whole big
21:13
Speaker 10: thing for the left to sneer at it. And you know,
21:15
Speaker 10: it shows just how deadly their internal polling must be
21:19
Speaker 10: and what they are reading here that they must be
21:21
Speaker 10: headed for an absolute wipeout now that the opposition seems
21:24
Speaker 10: to be getting their act together in that state, crime
21:27
Speaker 10: is out of true, you can't, you know, we open
21:29
Speaker 10: up the paper that hearing another horror show story about
21:32
Speaker 10: one thing or another, and people have every right to
21:35
Speaker 10: be scared and demand more. And we have a similar
21:38
Speaker 10: problem here by the way, in New South Wales. You know,
21:40
Speaker 10: it's not quite as bad, but we have a very
21:41
Speaker 10: similar issue and we have fights that are bail laws too,
21:44
Speaker 10: and you know, without tough bail laws judges in both
21:49
Speaker 10: jurisdictions Franklin in Queensland to everywhere else, you know, we'll
21:52
Speaker 10: find ways around them too to figure out ways to
21:55
Speaker 10: get these kids back out on the street, which is
21:56
Speaker 10: also a disgrace. But you know, maybe that's another topic.
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Speaker 3: Center.
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Speaker 2: I leave it there, but I will make the political
22:03
Speaker 2: point that I think they were pushed into this by
22:06
Speaker 2: the federal labor campaign, who do not want to go
22:09
Speaker 2: to a federal election in Victoria with this sitting.
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Speaker 3: Out there unresolved.
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Speaker 2: I suspect that was the blood price for that money
22:16
Speaker 2: that Canber did not want to pay on the suburban
22:19
Speaker 2: rail loop.
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Speaker 3: Thank you.
22:20
Speaker 2: We'll leave it there, all right, Let's go to developments internationally. Overnight,
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Speaker 2: Ukraine President of Lotimir Zelenski confirmed that Ukraine will accept
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Speaker 2: an immediate thirty day cease fire in it's war with Russia,
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Speaker 2: and this move has coincided with a reboot of military
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Speaker 2: aid from the US and critically intelligence sharing. Of course,
22:40
Speaker 2: the outlier here in all of this is President Putin
22:43
Speaker 2: and what he'll do with the White House saying they'll
22:45
Speaker 2: now apply pressure to the Kremlin. Join me now to
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Speaker 2: discuss these. Director of Strategic Analysis Australia, Michael Schubridge.
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Speaker 3: Michael, welcome.
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Speaker 2: As always, we know how important US intelligence is because
23:00
Speaker 2: it gives the Ukrainians the data they need to have
23:02
Speaker 2: the precise target locations for rocket missile systems.
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Speaker 3: They're blind without it.
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Speaker 2: So was this held over Zelenski to get this ceasefire concession?
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Speaker 14: Yes, absolutely, Peter, this was coercing Ukraine because it was
23:20
Speaker 14: obvious that Ukraine's military position was already weakened by the
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Speaker 14: withdrawal of that American support. Russian forces have been having
23:29
Speaker 14: successful offensives in the Cursed Region in Russia, killing Ukrainian
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Speaker 14: troops and pushing them back, and Ukrainian civilians are more
23:38
Speaker 14: vulnerable to drone and missile attack because of the lack
23:42
Speaker 14: of US intelligence, and they're running out of Patriot missiles.
23:45
Speaker 14: So Trump weakened the Ukrainian military position and their position
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Speaker 14: going into any ceasefire or peace talks.
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Speaker 2: So let's look in practical terms about the ceasefire actually
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Speaker 2: mean and making that point there that you did.
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Speaker 3: I presume the White.
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Speaker 2: House has done this knowing they'll get Putin's endorsement.
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Speaker 14: I don't think they know that the ceasefire at the
24:15
Speaker 14: moment is one hand clapping. It's Ukraine, one party to
24:19
Speaker 14: the war, saying they're willing to have a thirty day
24:21
Speaker 14: immediate ceasefire. It hasn't been presented to Moscow yet. Marco
24:27
Speaker 14: Rubio and maybe the special envoy are going to go
24:30
Speaker 14: off to Moscow apparently, but Putin has said, look, any
24:35
Speaker 14: ceasefire has to be on my terms, and by the way,
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Speaker 14: I think I'd like you to agree to my maximum
24:41
Speaker 14: demands about ending this war before I do anything. So
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Speaker 14: it's not clear that Moscow will accept the cease fire,
24:49
Speaker 14: but it is very clear that Putin thinks this is
24:52
Speaker 14: all going his way.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and we're going to get to a situation if
24:57
Speaker 2: we do have this ceasefire and it is accepted by
24:59
Speaker 2: the crew that for all the bloodshed by Ukrainians, they
25:06
Speaker 2: end up giving the aggressor Russia another slice of their territory.
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Speaker 14: Well, yes, because amongst Putin's demands are Ukrainian withdrawal from
25:18
Speaker 14: the four regions that Putin has been attempting to conquer
25:22
Speaker 14: but hasn't seized all of yet, so he's got about
25:25
Speaker 14: eighty percent of the Dombas he's got about seventy four
25:28
Speaker 14: percent of Zaparizia Oblast, so he wants to have the
25:32
Speaker 14: Ukrainian's hand over even more territory as part of any negotiation.
25:39
Speaker 3: And where's this mineral deal in all of this.
25:43
Speaker 14: Well, it looks like that will be signed, and that
25:46
Speaker 14: might be why President Trump is saying he'll get President
25:50
Speaker 14: Zelenski back to the White House. There'll be a sort
25:53
Speaker 14: of episode two of that meeting, but this time it'll
25:57
Speaker 14: be with big pens and smiles.
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Speaker 3: And peacekeeping forces.
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Speaker 2: Are we going to see troops are massed out of Europe?
26:07
Speaker 3: And will Australia be there? Do you think?
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Speaker 14: I think we're a long way from that. There has
26:13
Speaker 14: to be a peace to keep.
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Speaker 2: First.
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Speaker 14: We don't even know if the Europeans are going to
26:17
Speaker 14: be at the table, and any peace negotiations. Putin is
26:21
Speaker 14: rejecting any security guarantee for Ukraine and peacekeepers without a
26:26
Speaker 14: security guarantee from NATO including the US, look very risky.
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Speaker 3: All right, we'll leave it there.
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Speaker 2: It is movable feast sort of stuff here, Michael, Thank
26:37
Speaker 2: you for your time tonight with that update. All right
26:39
Speaker 2: after the rate Today's major High Court decision, with wide
26:43
Speaker 2: ranging ramifications for land rights and compensation for traditional owners,
26:47
Speaker 2: could cost us all billions.
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Speaker 3: Chris Merrick.
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Speaker 2: With the detail coming up plus the Workplace Relations Bill
26:53
Speaker 2: before the UK Parliament, it is a trojan horse, let
26:56
Speaker 2: me tell you, for the erosion of free speech will
26:59
Speaker 2: go life to the UK with that detail scene.
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Speaker 3: Welcome back.
27:07
Speaker 2: Still to come the annual power price reset. It's called
27:10
Speaker 2: the default market offer.
27:12
Speaker 3: It's almost here. More bad news for households.
27:15
Speaker 2: I'm afraid now you weren't meant to know about this
27:18
Speaker 2: before you voted, but you will now thanks to cyclone.
27:21
Speaker 3: Alfred. I'll get you an update on that in a moment, but.
27:23
Speaker 2: First, A major judgment today in the High Court was
27:26
Speaker 2: brought down, with the Court ruling in favor of the
27:29
Speaker 2: late doctor Yunipingu and the Gumaraj people of northeast Arnham Land.
27:34
Speaker 2: Today's decision upholds an earlier Federal Court judgment to award
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Speaker 2: Commonwealth compensation over the use of their land by a
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Speaker 2: mining company all the way back in nineteen sixty eight,
27:45
Speaker 2: for which the federal taxpayer will now be liable. The
27:49
Speaker 2: advocates in this case and their lawyers have hailed the ruling.
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Speaker 8: Justice has been served in this country for my people
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Speaker 8: and the people of nor disharnam Land.
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Speaker 15: It's a judgment that respects the rights of traditional owners
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Speaker 15: throughout the Northern Territory, all of whom have liked the
28:11
Speaker 15: Gumuch suffered directly from the acts of government in dispossessing
28:18
Speaker 15: them of their lands.
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Speaker 2: Joining me in now, Legal Affairs contributor at The Australian,
28:24
Speaker 2: Chris Merit. Chris just briefly take my viewers through why
28:28
Speaker 2: the commonwealths on the hook here, even though this relates
28:31
Speaker 2: to a mine in the Northern Territory back in the sixties.
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Speaker 8: Well, it happened this way.
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Speaker 16: The High Court has expanded the scope of a provision
28:43
Speaker 16: in the Commonwealth Constitution which guarantees just terms compensation.
28:48
Speaker 8: Whenever the Commonwealth or now the Territory takes property.
28:55
Speaker 16: There needs to be just terms compensation. That's step one.
28:57
Speaker 16: Step two was the reinterpretation, if you like, of common
29:04
Speaker 16: law native title. This is the form of native title
29:08
Speaker 16: that existed before the Native Title Acts. Now the leading
29:12
Speaker 16: judgment in the Court, not the entire court, but the
29:15
Speaker 16: leading judgment has beefed that up from the original conception.
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Speaker 8: It's no longer.
29:21
Speaker 16: Viewed officially as inherently vulnerable, inherently vulnerable collection of rights
29:30
Speaker 16: that can easily be extinguished. It's now been elevated to
29:33
Speaker 16: a form of property. If it's property, it comes within
29:36
Speaker 16: the scope of that expanded provision of the Commonwealth Constitution
29:41
Speaker 16: guaranteeing just terms compensation. That's how they got here. Then
29:46
Speaker 16: you apply that to the go Of Peninsula. This case
29:51
Speaker 16: was brought by Indigenous people seeking compensation for Baulk site
29:57
Speaker 16: mining on land in Arnham Land that they say was
30:02
Speaker 16: covered by their non exclusive native title rights that was
30:10
Speaker 16: taken without compensation. Therefore, under the new interpretation of those
30:15
Speaker 16: two provisions I mentioned, they say they're entitled to.
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Speaker 8: Money.
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Speaker 16: Exactly how much we don't know, but there's a speculation
30:24
Speaker 16: that the implications of this decision and others other claims
30:30
Speaker 16: could be hundreds of millions of dollars.
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Speaker 2: And the Commonwealth involved here because at the time there
30:36
Speaker 2: was no self government in the territory. The decisions were
30:39
Speaker 2: made out of Canberra. So that's my reading of things today.
30:43
Speaker 2: But that would mean Chris right across the top end.
30:48
Speaker 2: This creates a precedent for other Aboriginal communities.
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Speaker 16: It could and I say could because of this. If
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Speaker 16: you go to the last judgment in today's ruling by
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Speaker 16: Justice Simon Stewart, it puts a very different perspective on
31:10
Speaker 16: the legal framework here. Just a Steward, over several pages
31:15
Speaker 16: has traced the legal history of a native title in
31:21
Speaker 16: the territory and on his analysis, it was extinguished as
31:28
Speaker 16: far as native title to mineral rights goes. It was
31:32
Speaker 16: extinguished by the South Australian government before the South Australian
31:38
Speaker 16: Government surrendered the territory to the Comonwealth.
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Speaker 8: Now what does that mean? If just A Steward is correct,
31:45
Speaker 8: it means that.
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Speaker 16: The reinterpretation of the just Terms Compensation provision does not
31:52
Speaker 16: apply for the simple reason that there would be no
31:56
Speaker 16: native title therefore no property that was improperly taken, no
32:03
Speaker 16: native title rights. Now this has got to go back
32:07
Speaker 16: to the Federal Court. But my strong suggestion is that
32:12
Speaker 16: before any government starts writing checks, they look up Simon
32:16
Speaker 16: Stewart's very concise, detailed judgment and just have a look
32:22
Speaker 16: at what the reality is. It's a very persuasive argument
32:25
Speaker 16: that one there was not sufficient detail put before the
32:30
Speaker 16: High Court when it made this decision. It's based on
32:34
Speaker 16: the assumption. He says that native title exists and Native title.
32:41
Speaker 8: In arnam Land.
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Speaker 16: Covers book site, and he's puzzled that there was no
32:45
Speaker 16: evidence put before the court explaining our indigenous people, we're
32:50
Speaker 16: using book site.
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Speaker 2: Just because quickly he's an intellectual heavyweight. I will go
32:56
Speaker 2: back and read that over the weekend. I just quickly
32:58
Speaker 2: want to touch on something before we go Victorian a
33:01
Speaker 2: Children's Court. Interestingly, this isn't the case of the young
33:04
Speaker 2: man allegedly on the Virgin flight or jet stuff like
33:08
Speaker 2: Biggie Pardon coming out of avalon a couple of days ago,
33:12
Speaker 2: with the allegedly with the rifle. The courts put a
33:15
Speaker 2: suppression order on revealing and I quote the identity of
33:19
Speaker 2: any foreigner or foreign entities linked to this teenager. Now
33:25
Speaker 2: hard to say a lot here. I know there's a
33:27
Speaker 2: suppression order, but this then begs the question that there
33:31
Speaker 2: were foreigners or foreign entities involved exactly.
33:37
Speaker 16: This could be the most interesting twist in this entire incident.
33:42
Speaker 16: The fact that a suppression order has been issued with
33:45
Speaker 16: those explicit terms strongly suggests that there was in fact
33:50
Speaker 16: some form of foreign involvement, either an individual or an entity,
33:54
Speaker 16: and the suppression order is not a permanent one. I
33:58
Speaker 16: think it expires in a week or something. Well, so
34:01
Speaker 16: we're about to find out exactly what this is all about.
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Speaker 16: It would be very interesting to know who those foreign
34:07
Speaker 16: entities are.
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Speaker 2: I will get onto that as soon as that's a
34:11
Speaker 2: pressentoror has lifted. Chris Merrick, thank you. Let's go down
34:14
Speaker 2: to the UK.
34:14
Speaker 3: We're MPs.
34:15
Speaker 2: There are debating amendments to the Employment Rights Bill, with
34:19
Speaker 2: particular concerns around Clause eighteen, which critics fear could lead
34:23
Speaker 2: to a crackdown and free speech in pubs. If you
34:27
Speaker 2: can believe it, the amendment would force employers to take
34:30
Speaker 2: all reasonable steps to protect staff from harassment from third parties. Now,
34:36
Speaker 2: critics of the legislation, including people like Nigel Farage, well,
34:39
Speaker 2: they fear it'll be a trojan horse to ban any
34:42
Speaker 2: controversial topics being discussed at the bar, like religion or
34:46
Speaker 2: transgender rights or anything else. Joining me now, News Corps
34:51
Speaker 2: Europe correspondence Sophie Ellsworth will sew for t why not
34:55
Speaker 2: being able to speak your mind at the pabo Regid
34:57
Speaker 2: and Tonic or a nice ale. I mean, I'm saying
35:01
Speaker 2: it's almost down Australian, but it's certainly not British either.
35:04
Speaker 3: This is a shocker.
35:08
Speaker 17: Well, it's a real concern, Peter. I mean, the British
35:10
Speaker 17: pub culture, as we all know, is a massive part
35:13
Speaker 17: of life over here in the UK. And to actually
35:17
Speaker 17: have to potentially go down the road of having pub
35:20
Speaker 17: police monitoring what people are saying inside these venues, potentially
35:26
Speaker 17: removing them if there is a fence taken by staff
35:29
Speaker 17: is quite remarkable and there is concern. The British Pub
35:32
Speaker 17: Association has said this could have unintended consequences, So who
35:37
Speaker 17: is going to enforce this. If this does get through,
35:39
Speaker 17: this could open a giant can of worms and be
35:42
Speaker 17: a nightmare for these venues Peter, where people go just
35:46
Speaker 17: to relax and enjoy themselves and now they're going to
35:49
Speaker 17: potentially have to really watch what they say if this
35:52
Speaker 17: bill becomes legislation.
35:55
Speaker 2: Well, we were just together not so long ago, ourselves
35:58
Speaker 2: in London and if we've been a pub with some
36:00
Speaker 2: left wing millennials behind the bar while we were at
36:03
Speaker 2: a part wife to say, they'd be pretty upset with
36:06
Speaker 2: some of the things we were talking about.
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Speaker 17: But these are places you should be able to go
36:12
Speaker 17: and speak freely among your friends. You should be able
36:14
Speaker 17: to enjoy yourself, of course, not being offensive to other patrons,
36:18
Speaker 17: but just talking among friends and family and going on
36:20
Speaker 17: a night out. It's part of life. And to now
36:24
Speaker 17: have the Parliament debating this bill, the Conservative Party have
36:28
Speaker 17: pushed to try and have this clause in the Act
36:31
Speaker 17: struck out.
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Speaker 11: So it's still yet to.
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Speaker 17: Be to determine, Peter, but there are many people nervous
36:36
Speaker 17: about this if it does become legislation.
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Speaker 3: And of course we know what happens.
36:41
Speaker 2: So much of what labor does in the UK comes
36:45
Speaker 2: to Australia. It's imported into Australia, it'll hit us as well.
36:49
Speaker 3: Hey, just quickly.
36:50
Speaker 2: We heard from Nigel Farage last night of Paul Murray's
36:53
Speaker 2: show Rupert Lowe, one of his colleagues has been suspended.
36:57
Speaker 2: Let's have a listen to what Nigel said is the
37:01
Speaker 2: reason for it.
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Speaker 1: I've been there before. You know, you build something up
37:06
Speaker 1: and somebody else thinks they can do a better job
37:08
Speaker 1: than you. So I think it's no secret he'd like
37:10
Speaker 1: to be leader. He thinks he's going to be the
37:12
Speaker 1: next Prime minister. He even said to a group of
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Speaker 1: us the other week I will destroy anyone that gets
37:18
Speaker 1: in my way. Well I'm sorry, but I'm in the way.
37:24
Speaker 2: Well until all of this, so if we know, you know,
37:26
Speaker 2: Reform was in the absolute box seat. What's happening and
37:30
Speaker 2: what impact does this with ordinary people?
37:34
Speaker 17: So Nigel Frage obviously the leader of Reform UK. They
37:38
Speaker 17: have five MPs over here in the UK, and Rupert
37:41
Speaker 17: low one of the MP's, has come out and said
37:43
Speaker 17: he's not quite sure if Nigel Farage is the right
37:46
Speaker 17: man to lead the party and lead the country if
37:49
Speaker 17: the party is successful at the next general election. Now
37:52
Speaker 17: he's really got under the skin of Nigel Farrage and
37:55
Speaker 17: consequently there's been an entire fallout. There's now accusations and
37:59
Speaker 17: investigation against Rupert Lowe, an incredibly wealthy businessman who is
38:04
Speaker 17: not in this for money. He forgoes his salary for
38:08
Speaker 17: Heaven's sake to do this job. He's now under investigation
38:12
Speaker 17: for claims he's treated people within Reform UK appallingly. And
38:16
Speaker 17: now Nigel Fras and him are having this incredibly public
38:20
Speaker 17: spat Peter where it's he said, she says type argument.
38:24
Speaker 17: They're doing columns in the daily papers, they're going on
38:27
Speaker 17: media they're doing interviews. It's ugly and Reform of paying
38:30
Speaker 17: the price for this, Peter, because just recently a pole
38:34
Speaker 17: came out and a YouGov poll and it showed thirty
38:37
Speaker 17: three percent of Reform voters think the party would be
38:40
Speaker 17: better off if Nigel Farage wasn't the leader.
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Speaker 11: So this is the problem for the party.
38:45
Speaker 17: Peter, that you and I know was the hottest thing
38:48
Speaker 17: in town in the UK. They're now got this very
38:51
Speaker 17: ugly spat playing out in front of everyone to see.
38:56
Speaker 2: That's a big hit the polls in a matter of weeks.
38:58
Speaker 2: So if we'll stay across that, thank you, warm looks,
39:00
Speaker 2: call where you are there in Yorkshire right after the break,
39:03
Speaker 2: just how high could your power bill go with the
39:05
Speaker 2: regulator releases this new annual pricing offer. As I said,
39:09
Speaker 2: you weren't meant to know about this till the other
39:11
Speaker 2: side of the election. But would you be shocked to
39:13
Speaker 2: know that about forty percent of the price of a
39:15
Speaker 2: new home in this country is taxes and other government charges.
39:20
Speaker 3: We'll get to that after break.
39:26
Speaker 2: Kel Richard's coming up as always on a Wednesday, But
39:28
Speaker 2: first my panel National Senator Matt Canavan and Shadow Assistant
39:32
Speaker 2: Treasurer Luke Howarth. Gents welcome cost of living this default
39:37
Speaker 2: market offer, Matt Canavan. If he'd called the election on
39:41
Speaker 2: the weekend as planned, we would not know about these
39:45
Speaker 2: prices going into the campaign. There's talk from experts our
39:49
Speaker 2: prices for electricity are going to spiral by five percent,
39:52
Speaker 2: so above inflation. Thank goodness, we had the cyclone in
39:58
Speaker 2: a sense this before we vote.
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Speaker 18: Well, that's right, Peter, although every Australian household knows already
40:07
Speaker 18: that the Prime Minister can't be trusted on the cost
40:10
Speaker 18: of living promises he made, and specifically about electricity prices.
40:13
Speaker 18: Of course, we all know he promised to lower your
40:16
Speaker 18: power bill by two hundred and seventy five dollars a year.
40:19
Speaker 18: That has not happened. In fact, the latest default market
40:22
Speaker 18: offer from last year showed that the average bill in
40:25
Speaker 18: New South Wales had gone up over five hundred dollars
40:29
Speaker 18: a year, and some families on different rates with bigger
40:31
Speaker 18: households are paying over one thousand dollars a year more
40:35
Speaker 18: compared when the PM took over. Now, there was a
40:37
Speaker 18: slight decrease last year and the government was crowing about it,
40:40
Speaker 18: and that was all because of some accounting tricks that
40:43
Speaker 18: brought forward some accounting changes to the electricity company's books
40:49
Speaker 18: that can't be repeated this year. And in fact, late
40:51
Speaker 18: last year wholesale prices surged, so they're probably going to
40:54
Speaker 18: flow through to higher power bills and this time this time,
40:57
Speaker 18: the government can't blame Vladimir Putin. Know where they can
41:00
Speaker 18: do that. Coal prices are down, Gas prices are down
41:03
Speaker 18: around the world, not so much an Australi because you
41:05
Speaker 18: don't drill it for it anymore. But that's why our
41:07
Speaker 18: power prices are high, because we're not using our own
41:10
Speaker 18: coal and gas resources.
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Speaker 11: Well, the rest of the world is.
41:14
Speaker 2: They're shameless. They'll give Ukraine and Putin to go. But
41:17
Speaker 2: Kevin Gallagher, he's the CEO of Santos, he says, we've
41:21
Speaker 2: got to follow the leader of the US. In Australia,
41:23
Speaker 2: we've got a decouple energy policy from climate policy, saying
41:27
Speaker 2: putting the two together. And I think it was Malcolm
41:30
Speaker 2: Turnbull who famously did this in a ministerial job to
41:34
Speaker 2: Josh Freedenberg, putting the two together. He says, putting the
41:37
Speaker 2: two together has led it to our gas crisis. Matt Canavan,
41:41
Speaker 2: what do you make.
41:42
Speaker 3: Of this well.
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Speaker 18: I was going to raise Malcolm whos in the news
41:46
Speaker 18: this week, but I'm sure he remembered that to Peter
41:48
Speaker 18: that the last time we actually did get a sustained
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Speaker 18: and quite large full and electricity prices was when Tony
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Speaker 18: Abbott came to power as Prime Minister and he separated
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Speaker 18: energy and climate. The Energy and Climate portfolios, of course
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Speaker 18: is government and I voted for it, got rid of
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Speaker 18: the carbon tax and that was the last vote in
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Speaker 18: the Parliament where we really acted to reduce the cost
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Speaker 18: of living. So that's what we've got to get back to.
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Speaker 18: We should be not focused on these climate targets. We
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Speaker 18: should be focused on only one target for the Australian people,
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Speaker 18: and that's the cost of living target. Get the cost
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Speaker 18: living down, get electricity prices down. That's what I think
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Speaker 18: people want us to do. In Canberra.
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Speaker 2: Luke I was absolutely shocked today to read the stat
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Speaker 2: that the family home this is a new home, so
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Speaker 2: a house and land package. About forty percent of the
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Speaker 2: cost of that home is taxes and charges. Now Sydney
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Speaker 2: most expensive, of course, but if we use a Sydney example,
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Speaker 2: that's half a million dollars going to statutey taxes, regulatory costs,
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Speaker 2: infrastructure charges. I mean, this is a scam. We've got
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Speaker 2: abundant land, so this is a tax strategy by state governments,
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Speaker 2: isn't it.
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Speaker 3: You're absolutely right.
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Speaker 6: You know, people who have a thirty year mortgage now,
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Speaker 6: if they're able to buy a home, the first twelve
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Speaker 6: years of that is paying off taxes. And we need
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Speaker 6: to make sure that all levels of government, federal, state
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Speaker 6: and counsel are focused on their jobs and not unnecessarily
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Speaker 6: spending money that they don't have, because at the end
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Speaker 6: of the day, it's them just to grab to bring
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Speaker 6: in more taxes that get added onto things like developments,
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Speaker 6: that get added onto greenfield estates, and get added onto
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Speaker 6: land and house packages. And we're seeing as prices increase,
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Speaker 6: it becomes more and more unaffordable. So you've got to
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Speaker 6: actually make sure that you're reducing regulation to bring down costs. Obviously,
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Speaker 6: the coalition has plans to help with infrastructure, costing some
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Speaker 6: five billion dollars that Peter Dutton's announced Under a coalition government,
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Speaker 6: we've got plans to reduce demand a little bit by
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Speaker 6: lowing immigration to better levels. But out of the million
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Speaker 6: people that labor brought in in two years. I think
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Speaker 6: five thousand of them are actually chippies as well. So
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Speaker 6: we've all so I've got super of a housing. A
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Speaker 6: lot needs to be done, but you're spot on. It
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Speaker 6: is getting harder for people. But we need to make
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Speaker 6: sure that young people can have the dream of home ownership.
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Speaker 6: The coalitions committed to that. We want to make sure
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Speaker 6: that they can own their own home. And right now
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Speaker 6: we need ministers that can drill down and make sure
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Speaker 6: that we're not adding costs onto these house and land packages.
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Speaker 11: Man.
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Speaker 2: I have the calculators broken down in Canberra because I
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Speaker 2: look at this information today about how the electric vehicle
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Speaker 2: tax break has blown out. It was supposed to cost
44:34
Speaker 2: us poor taxpayers about fifty five million a year. It's
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Speaker 2: actually going to cost US five hundred and sixty million
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Speaker 2: a year. How on earth can we trust anyone in
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Speaker 2: finance or Treasury.
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Speaker 3: Do you do any forecasting? It's crazy?
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Speaker 11: Well, absolutely right.
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Speaker 18: I mean these are the same people that Jim Charmers
44:56
Speaker 18: was using the other week to spread misinformation about their
45:02
Speaker 18: coalition's policy to allow small businesses to deduct lunches, just
45:05
Speaker 18: like at the cost of lunches for clients just like
45:07
Speaker 18: big businesses can. So you can't believe any of the
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Speaker 18: figures that come out of treasury and get it this wrong.
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Speaker 18: I mean, this is ridiculous. And most of the subses,
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Speaker 18: of course Peter, go to high wealth individuals.
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Speaker 11: I'll let you in a secret.
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Speaker 18: I was actually looking at buying a Tesla last year
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Speaker 18: because you know, don't all jump on me yet, but
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Speaker 18: you were looking at these. We were looking at replacing
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Speaker 18: our second car. It's fifteen years old. These tax benefits
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Speaker 18: are ridiculous, Like I got him vote for them, but
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Speaker 18: like Kerry packrod On and to give money to Canberra
45:34
Speaker 18: for nothing, they're wasting it. So we were going to
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Speaker 18: almost do it. Guess what, Peter Polies can't get it though.
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Speaker 18: We can't sell He's sacrifice, so we couldn't get the
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Speaker 18: tax advantage. But it is ridiculous when I looked into it,
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Speaker 18: their amount of money we're giving on people, the people
45:45
Speaker 18: on a fifty cent tax bracket, they're the ones who
45:47
Speaker 18: benefit from this. They're struggling, struggling Australians. The battles were
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Speaker 18: straying the cost living. They don't get it. And the
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Speaker 18: Labor Party brought this in. It should be scrapped even
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Speaker 18: though I was going to use it. Of course, I'll
45:56
Speaker 18: use any tax deduction that's there, but get rid of
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Speaker 18: this stuff and actually support Australian families that are struggling.
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Speaker 2: Not wrong, I've got no issue with electric cars. But
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Speaker 2: I think if you're rich or rupping, if you anybody,
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Speaker 2: you got.
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Speaker 3: To pay for it yourself. I don't think taxpayer.
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Speaker 2: Now, yes, thank you, Well, I don't think he's getting
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Speaker 2: the subs that he Matt not from Australian tax space
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Speaker 2: at least. All right, uck and break, we'll get to
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Speaker 2: Kell Richards with all the word plenty of them this week.
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Speaker 2: Welcome back to to Wednesday, your favorite, my favorite two
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Speaker 2: kel Bridgards, joins me. Now, this one's an interesting one.
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Speaker 2: Our viewer never wants to know where the saying is,
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Speaker 2: and he says, the saying is call a spade a spade.
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Speaker 2: Now I thought the saying was call a spade a shovel.
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Speaker 19: Well, the version you know is the later jokey version.
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Speaker 19: The original version, recorded five hundred years ago, four hundred
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Speaker 19: and eighty, five hundred and forty something is call a
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Speaker 19: spade a spade, And then the more recent version only
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Speaker 19: in the twentieth century, the jokey version caught. He's so
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Speaker 19: blunt in his speech, he would call us spade a
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Speaker 19: bloody shovel. So that's the later sort of jokey version.
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Speaker 19: But to say something by its proper name, to be
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Speaker 19: plain speaking, to be blunt spoken, that was the original
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Speaker 19: form back in the fifteen hundreds, and that comes from
47:16
Speaker 19: the ancient world. It comes from Plutarch, who in one
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Speaker 19: seventy eight BC wrote a phrase, a proverb almost exactly
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Speaker 19: like this. He didn't use the word spade. He talked
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Speaker 19: about a bowl, I think, or a dish. But it's
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Speaker 19: almost exactly this proverb. So it comes from the ancient world,
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Speaker 19: and it just means we really blunt about things.
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Speaker 2: Well, I like blond time a country girl, I like
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Speaker 2: planes speaking Kel Richards, this is when I use a phrase.
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Speaker 3: I use quite a bit.
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Speaker 2: Gregory wants to know how it came to use the
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Speaker 2: phrase Everything's gone all pear shaped.
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Speaker 19: Royal Air Force slang. When a pilot tries to fly
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Speaker 19: a loop the loop and everything goes wobbly and it's
47:59
Speaker 19: not a perfect circle. He has what he's done has
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Speaker 19: gone all pear shaped. That's where it appears to come
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Speaker 19: from recorded in print for the first time nineteen eighty three,
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Speaker 19: but according to some experts it goes back to the
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Speaker 19: Second World War. Was part of the spoken language for
48:14
Speaker 19: a long time before it appeared in print. But they
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Speaker 19: are Air Force slank. They invented a lot of good phrases,
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Speaker 19: including this one.
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Speaker 2: Ervin wants to know the correct pronunciation for canbra. He says,
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Speaker 2: is it Canberra or Canberra? I know I prefer the
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Speaker 2: forming of the ladder, but you'll tell us what's right.
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Speaker 19: You are right, that is the answer. It's the answer
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Speaker 19: to most things on this program in this hour, I
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Speaker 19: have to say, but it's right. In this case it's Canberra.
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Speaker 19: The stresses on the first syllable only and always. The
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Speaker 19: original indigenous word was something like in Gambrie. It had
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Speaker 19: the stress on the first syllable. So that's how it
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Speaker 19: has to be. I looked it up at a great
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Speaker 19: old book on the Pronunciation Guide to Australian place Names
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Speaker 19: put out by the ABC in the early nineteen sixties,
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Speaker 19: Back in the days when they about how their presenters
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Speaker 19: pronounced things.
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Speaker 11: I think that might have changed.
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Speaker 2: Let's stay with that because Carol wants to know how
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Speaker 2: and when the Australian accent changed very early.
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Speaker 19: Bruce Moore, in his book Speaking Our Language, says that
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Speaker 19: the Australian accent came because convicts came from all over
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Speaker 19: Britain had different dialects, and something called leveling down happened,
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Speaker 19: where in order to understand each other and communicate, they
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Speaker 19: had to take out the dialectical differences. So their language
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Speaker 19: became not a regional dialect, but what we know today.
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Speaker 19: It was in place, as Bruce by the eighteen thirties,
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Speaker 19: and it's pretty much still the language we speak today.
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Speaker 3: It's fascinating.
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Speaker 2: I met a guy in England who was raised in
49:46
Speaker 2: England to Irish parents, and he sounded like an Australian.
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Speaker 3: So there you go. That's us.
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Speaker 2: Thankskel see you next week. I'm off tomorrow night, but
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Speaker 2: i'll see you next week. Steve Price will sit in
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Speaker 2: for me. He's Andrew Bolt