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- 0:08Speaker 1: Good afternoon. It's Wednesday, the twenty fifth of February twenty
- 0:11Speaker 1: twenty sixth, just after one o'clock. Welcome to uk Collin News.
- 0:13Speaker 1: I'm your host Mike Rumson. Joining me in by video
- 0:15Speaker 1: link today are Charles Mallett and Vanessa Billy And later
- 0:19Speaker 1: in the program, Charles is going to be reporting on
- 0:21Speaker 1: the war between the US Department of War and Anthropic
- 0:24Speaker 1: over AI enabled weapons. Vanessa is going to be bringing
- 0:27Speaker 1: us up to date with the regime change efforts in Iran,
- 0:31Speaker 1: and I'm going to be covering the latest digital ID news.
- 0:33Speaker 1: But we're going to begin today with Ukraine because Tasks
- 0:37Speaker 1: is reporting that the Foreign Office, the Foreign Intelligence Service
- 0:41Speaker 1: in Russia is saying that London and Paris are considering
- 0:46Speaker 1: equipping Ukraine with nuclear weapons. They are reporting an assessment
- 0:53Speaker 1: by Russia's agency SVR that Paris and London are actively
- 0:57Speaker 1: working to provide Kiev with a nuclear bom and presuming
- 1:00Speaker 1: these are tactical nukes. But we can talk to Charles
- 1:03Speaker 1: about that in a second. It is believed that Ukraine
- 1:07Speaker 1: should be supplied with a wunder of APHA. Is the
- 1:11Speaker 1: quote at present, according to the information available to the
- 1:14Speaker 1: Russian SVR, London and Paris are actively working over the
- 1:16Speaker 1: issue of providing Kiev with a weapon of this kind
- 1:19Speaker 1: as well as with the means of delivery. This involves
- 1:22Speaker 1: a covert transfer of relevant European mid components equipment of
- 1:27Speaker 1: technologies to Ukraine. As an option, the French small size
- 1:30Speaker 1: T seventy five warhead from the fifty one submarine launched
- 1:35Speaker 1: ballistic missile is being considered. And they also said that
- 1:38Speaker 1: Berlin has prudently refused to take part in this dangerous venture.
- 1:42Speaker 1: They're saying that the British and French plot is a
- 1:46Speaker 1: gross violation of international law, first of the Non Proliferation
- 1:50Speaker 1: Treaty and carries the risk of destroying global non proliferation
- 1:57Speaker 1: systems so on. So anyway, this is what the Russian
- 2:03Speaker 1: intelligence agencies are saying. So if we just put that
- 2:05Speaker 1: back on screen, I'll just show you what Maria za
- 2:09Speaker 1: Zakarova is saying. Basically, any steps taken to assist Kievan
- 2:13Speaker 1: acquiring military nuclear capabilities will be interpreted by US as
- 2:17Speaker 1: an attempt to pose a direct and critical threat to
- 2:19Speaker 1: our nation security. Now, the issue here, Charles, is that
- 2:23Speaker 1: Zakarova is absolutely mentioning non proliferation and talking about there
- 2:30Speaker 1: being an effort a discussion within Russia and non proliferation
- 2:34Speaker 1: in April, and it does seem to me a bit
- 2:37Speaker 1: unlikely that you know, Britain and France are really considering
- 2:41Speaker 1: doing this. If they are, it is an insame thing
- 2:44Speaker 1: to do. But nonetheless, in the meantime, this kind of
- 2:47Speaker 1: rhetoric and pushing this kind of information out for Russian
- 2:51Speaker 1: intelligence to find is going to put pressure on Russia
- 2:55Speaker 1: to consider, you know, further moving away from their position
- 2:59Speaker 1: on non prolifit fruition, It.
- 3:04Speaker 2: Would, I mean, I think it does a whole host
- 3:06Speaker 2: of things. And as you say, whether or not it
- 3:08Speaker 2: is true, but of course, having just listened to Donald
- 3:11Speaker 2: Trump talking about Iran and Iran not acquiring any nuclear
- 3:15Speaker 2: capability at all costs, and then this is tossed in
- 3:18Speaker 2: as though it might be perfectly normal. But also the
- 3:20Speaker 2: other thing is it's a massive distraction from what the
- 3:23Speaker 2: United Kingdom and France might already be up to in
- 3:26Speaker 2: Ukraine without actually declaring it. So the idea that this
- 3:30Speaker 2: would be a step beyond is the case, but actually
- 3:33Speaker 2: it does sort of obscure the rather nefarious goings on
- 3:37Speaker 2: that have been happening frankly since twenty twenty two.
- 3:41Speaker 1: Yeah, so, I mean she's also talking about the you know,
- 3:43Speaker 1: the anti Russian rhetoric that's continuing to come out of
- 3:47Speaker 1: the United Kingdom and the EU and this just never ends, Charles.
- 3:52Speaker 1: So you know, what, what are the Russians supposed to think?
- 3:57Speaker 2: Well, I think they're put in a very difficult position.
- 4:00Speaker 2: But I mean they have been in a difficult position
- 4:02Speaker 2: since the late eighties, early nineties on exactly this subject.
- 4:06Speaker 2: But of course the thing I think the difference now
- 4:08Speaker 2: is the way in which the messaging is joined up,
- 4:10Speaker 2: some of which I'll be commenting on and sort of
- 4:13Speaker 2: exemplifying a little bit later, but it's you know, it
- 4:16Speaker 2: is absolutely the sort of kicking of the hornet's nest,
- 4:19Speaker 2: forcing Russia into a position to which they have to
- 4:21Speaker 2: respond in the same way that they said they were
- 4:23Speaker 2: doing back in February twenty twenty two.
- 4:26Speaker 1: Indeed, well, in the meantime, then, amongst all the statements
- 4:31Speaker 1: from the UK and the EU to mark the anniversary
- 4:34Speaker 1: of the Ukraine War the start of the UK Korean War,
- 4:37Speaker 1: the UK has announced what they're describing as a new
- 4:40Speaker 1: landmark sanctions package, cutting off critical oil revenues, they say,
- 4:45Speaker 1: and further degridding the Kremlin's Kremlin's ability to wig it's
- 4:49Speaker 1: illegal war their words. So they're saying nearly three one
- 4:53Speaker 1: hundred news sanctions and including oil exports, key suppliers of
- 4:57Speaker 1: military equipment and so on. They're claiming that Russian oil
- 5:02Speaker 1: revenues are now at their lowest since twenty twenty. As
- 5:06Speaker 1: the sanctions bite, and this news comes as in Kiev, EVT.
- 5:11Speaker 1: Cooper is there announcing a new support for Ukrainian resilience
- 5:16Speaker 1: as they describe it. So they're talking about military, humanitarian
- 5:19Speaker 1: reconstruction support, including twenty million pounds of new funding for
- 5:23Speaker 1: emergency energy support, five point seven million to provide humanitarian
- 5:27Speaker 1: assistance to frontline communities. Medical mentoring is how they describe it,
- 5:31Speaker 1: and also helicopter training, so not quite F sixteen's but nonetheless.
- 5:36Speaker 1: And then star War is going to lead a coalition
- 5:38Speaker 1: to the will of the willing call today as Foreign
- 5:42Speaker 1: Secretary as Cooper is in Kiev, and then the UK
- 5:48Speaker 1: is security in Ukraine. They're basically saying that they're going
- 5:55Speaker 1: to continue to support Ukraine. Is going to make Britain,
- 5:58Speaker 1: Europe safer, stronger, and more secure as a result. Well,
- 6:01Speaker 1: we can buy that if we like. But let's just
- 6:03Speaker 1: bring a vet on saying today I'm shining a light
- 6:07Speaker 1: on Russia's disgraceful attempts to erase Ukrainian identity in the
- 6:11Speaker 1: temporary temporarily occupied territories of Ukraine. Vanessa, let me just
- 6:16Speaker 1: get a comment from you on that, because it seems
- 6:18Speaker 1: to me that what Russia was intending to do with
- 6:20Speaker 1: the special military operation was in fact to reinforce the
- 6:25Speaker 1: Russian identity in the Donbas, not areas Ukrainian identity anywhere else.
- 6:32Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely, they were always very clear about that. And really,
- 6:37Speaker 3: basically what worries me about this Iran sorry, this nuclear rhetoric.
- 6:43Speaker 3: So it's fine for a Zionist genocidal regime to have
- 6:46Speaker 3: nuclear weapons, and it's fine for a Nazi regime in
- 6:50Speaker 3: Ukraine to have weapons, which speaks very loudly as to
- 6:55Speaker 3: the ideology of members of our own governmental class, whichever
- 7:00Speaker 3: of the divide they're on.
- 7:02Speaker 1: Absolutely. Well, look, let's move on then to Iran, and
- 7:06Speaker 1: of course the military build up continues. There's some rhetoric
- 7:10Speaker 1: doing the Rhyans Vanessa that perhaps Trump is having second
- 7:15Speaker 1: thoughts about actual military action. What are your thoughts on that.
- 7:20Speaker 4: I don't think so.
- 7:21Speaker 3: I think what they're doing at the moment is trying
- 7:23Speaker 3: to buy time through the negotiation track. Iran may also
- 7:27Speaker 3: be trying to buy time to formalize, sorry to fully
- 7:32Speaker 3: set up its air defense systems, and also to reinforce
- 7:36Speaker 3: its borders, which is related to what I'm going to
- 7:39Speaker 3: talk about now. But I just wanted to show two
- 7:42Speaker 3: sections from Trump's congressional speech yesterday.
- 7:47Speaker 4: First of all, here he talks.
- 7:49Speaker 3: About the assassination of General Cussum Solomony back in twenty twenty, and.
- 7:56Speaker 5: We took out Salomoni. I did that during my first
- 7:58Speaker 5: term at a huge jump.
- 8:01Speaker 4: He was the father of the roadside.
- 8:13Speaker 5: And just over the last couple of months with the
- 8:16Speaker 5: protests they've killed at least it looks like thirty two
- 8:20Speaker 5: thousand protests. Thirty two thousand protests.
- 8:26Speaker 3: I mean, first of all, I just want to remind
- 8:28Speaker 3: everyone that it was not only General custom Solmoni who
- 8:31Speaker 3: was killed by Trump's assassination. There he takes credit for it,
- 8:35Speaker 3: as he has recently taken credit for putting Jolani and
- 8:39Speaker 3: the al Qaeda forces in power in Syria, but it
- 8:42Speaker 3: was also General Mohandez who was leading the popular Mobilization
- 8:47Speaker 3: forces in Iraq, who was killed with solemony, both of
- 8:51Speaker 3: whom were fighting genuinely fighting ISIS on the ground in
- 8:55Speaker 3: Syria and Iraq. And Kassam Solimani was responsible for the
- 8:59Speaker 3: training of the defense forces for the Syrian Christians in
- 9:03Speaker 3: Syria to be able to defend themselves against ISIS and
- 9:07Speaker 3: the tech theory forces. So that's just a reminder of
- 9:11Speaker 3: who Trump actually killed in that assassination.
- 9:14Speaker 4: And then he goes on he also, of.
- 9:17Speaker 3: Course is using the exaggerated numbers on those killed in
- 9:21Speaker 3: the recent Mossad ciam Is six engineered riots in Iran,
- 9:27Speaker 3: and then he goes on to talk about the latest
- 9:30Speaker 3: threat from Iran.
- 9:33Speaker 5: But this is some terrible people. They've already developed missiles
- 9:39Speaker 5: that can threaten Europe and our bases overseas, and they're
- 9:43Speaker 5: working to build missiles that will soon reach the United
- 9:47Speaker 5: States of America. After Midnight Hammer, they were warned to
- 9:53Speaker 5: make no future attempts to rebuild their weapons program in
- 9:56Speaker 5: a particular nuclear weapons, yet they can.
- 10:03Speaker 3: So we really are in weapons of mass destruction territory
- 10:07Speaker 3: now with Iran. And it's very clear to me that
- 10:10Speaker 3: there is going to be no backing off from this,
- 10:13Speaker 3: whether that's Israeli Natanyahu pressure on Trump, or Trump simply
- 10:18Speaker 3: has as part of his agenda to fully destabilize Iran.
- 10:22Speaker 3: And as I'm going to point out, I don't think
- 10:24Speaker 3: it's any longer going to be simply a kinetic war.
- 10:27Speaker 3: I think we're now entering the territory of really a
- 10:31Speaker 3: full blown hybrid war. Let's just have a look at
- 10:34Speaker 3: this map which shows very clearly the Kurdish areas, so
- 10:39Speaker 3: the areas in Turkey, in Syria, in Iraq, on the
- 10:45Speaker 3: border with Iran, and even inside Iran. Now, what is
- 10:49Speaker 3: interesting that entire conglomeration of Kurdish population is between thirty
- 10:57Speaker 3: to forty million according to conservative estimate. Of course, the
- 11:02Speaker 3: separatist factions within those populations are very much backed by
- 11:06Speaker 3: Washington and Israel against Iran, so that gives an indication
- 11:12Speaker 3: of how big this threat is. And recently on UK
- 11:17Speaker 3: column I published an article which talks also about British
- 11:21Speaker 3: intelligence has been radicalizing children in the Syrian ISIS prisons
- 11:26Speaker 3: for the long war against Iran. Because Trump basically gave
- 11:30Speaker 3: the green light to jo Lani to retake the northeast,
- 11:34Speaker 3: pushing the Kurds out into the far northeast corner and
- 11:38Speaker 3: releasing ISIS fighters up to fifteen to twenty thousand from
- 11:43Speaker 3: the prisons, which then become a threat in Iraq and
- 11:46Speaker 3: also potentially.
- 11:47Speaker 4: On the border with Iran.
- 11:49Speaker 3: Then we have this is effectively the release of an
- 11:52Speaker 3: Israeli documentary talking about the training of Kurdish separatist proxies
- 11:57Speaker 3: in Iran, so within Iran itself and on the borders
- 12:00Speaker 3: of Iran, specializing in protest training and resistance training. That's
- 12:08Speaker 3: the Israeli terminology to Iranian security forces. And then very recently,
- 12:15Speaker 3: in the last few days, Iranian Kurdish factions have formed
- 12:18Speaker 3: an alliance which is apparently has as its mission to
- 12:22Speaker 3: topple the Tehran government. So it's an alliance of five
- 12:27Speaker 3: members of various political groups within the Iranian Kurdish areas
- 12:32Speaker 3: known as the Political Forces or the Alliance sorry of
- 12:35Speaker 3: Political Forces of Iranian Kurdistan. At the moment, we have
- 12:41Speaker 3: videos circulating on social media that I've been able to
- 12:44Speaker 3: if we can just put that up on screen, that
- 12:47Speaker 3: I've been able to confirm that IRGC and Iranian military
- 12:51Speaker 3: are heading to the border between Iran and Iraq, obviously
- 12:57Speaker 3: building up defense against the potential of an attack from Kurdistan,
- 13:03Speaker 3: Iraqi Kurdistan and even from within Iran itself.
- 13:08Speaker 4: So clearly, for me, this is part of a hybrid war.
- 13:11Speaker 3: There is no chance that the US and Israel are
- 13:14Speaker 3: going to be able to cross borders into Iran.
- 13:18Speaker 4: They would be eliminated.
- 13:19Speaker 3: But what they appear to be doing is grouping their
- 13:22Speaker 3: proxy forces together. And then in addition to that, apparently
- 13:27Speaker 3: according to a San saferon Azad, who's an Iranian analyst
- 13:32Speaker 3: that I've been speaking to quite often in the last
- 13:35Speaker 3: few weeks, he's saying that the Iranian forces are now
- 13:39Speaker 3: erecting a security wall on that border, so they seem
- 13:42Speaker 3: to be well aware of the threat. And then let's
- 13:46Speaker 3: have a look at something that a son said on
- 13:49Speaker 3: X the other day, I think about three days ago,
- 13:52Speaker 3: which I totally agree with. So what he's saying is
- 13:56Speaker 3: what if the US attack on Iran coincides with peaceful
- 13:59Speaker 3: protesters in inverted Commons taking it to the street to
- 14:02Speaker 3: show their support for regime change in Iran. After all,
- 14:06Speaker 3: the mainstream told you that armed insurgents in western parts
- 14:09Speaker 3: of Iran were mere peaceful protesters. Why wouldn't they do
- 14:12Speaker 3: it again? And of course we now know they are
- 14:14Speaker 3: being trained by Israel, so that seems to be the
- 14:18Speaker 3: job now quietly distributed among a network of armed groups
- 14:21Speaker 3: on Iran's periphery, the Pjakpak, the so called National Kurdistan Army,
- 14:26Speaker 3: them Ek terrorist group, the Balosh Liberation Army in the south,
- 14:32Speaker 3: and the merger of terror groups in South East Iran
- 14:34Speaker 3: with josh Adel. Each has its own baggage, its own ideology,
- 14:38Speaker 3: its own patrons, but together they form something bigger, a
- 14:41Speaker 3: patchwork of proxy forces that can bleed the Islamic Republic
- 14:45Speaker 3: when it's dealing with a US bombing campaign without a
- 14:49Speaker 3: single foreign soldier crossing the border.
- 14:51Speaker 4: So exactly as I said.
- 14:53Speaker 3: And then if we moved to Natanyao and his recent
- 14:57Speaker 3: address at the start of a government meeting in the Canasset,
- 15:02Speaker 3: he talks basically about alliances in the region, and he says,
- 15:06Speaker 3: in the vision I see before me, we will create
- 15:09Speaker 3: an entire system, essentially a hexagon of alliances around or
- 15:14Speaker 3: within the Middle East. He goes on to say in
- 15:18Speaker 3: the same speech an access of nations to challenge the
- 15:22Speaker 3: radical axes as he calls them both the radical sha axis,
- 15:26Speaker 3: which of course is predominantly the resistance axis itself, and
- 15:30Speaker 3: the emerging radical Sunni access to which of course he's
- 15:34Speaker 3: referring Isis and alkaeder in Syria, although of course they
- 15:37Speaker 3: were instruments of Zionis power in the region as well
- 15:41Speaker 3: as working on behalf of the US and the British.
- 15:45Speaker 3: And then in addition to this, US forces have rather
- 15:49Speaker 3: unexpectedly fully withdrawn from inside Syria.
- 15:52Speaker 4: If we have a quick look at.
- 15:54Speaker 3: The map, you'll see that in the northeast they've fully
- 15:58Speaker 3: withdrawn and taken their forces into the Kurdistan Iraqi Kurdistan
- 16:04Speaker 3: region under the Kurdistan Regional Government there, which again reinforces
- 16:10Speaker 3: my idea or my speculation that they are planning a
- 16:13Speaker 3: multiple pronged proxy attack against Iran with US support within
- 16:18Speaker 3: the Kurdistan region in Iraq, and then from the Altanif
- 16:22Speaker 3: base on the border with Iraq and Jordan, they've effectively
- 16:26Speaker 3: withdrawn to Jordan.
- 16:27Speaker 4: What does this do?
- 16:28Speaker 3: This leaves a vacuum inside Syria which has potential also
- 16:33Speaker 3: if we look at the next map, for as I
- 16:35Speaker 3: mentioned there in the section on the Jordan Iraqi border,
- 16:42Speaker 3: for ISIS to move where the altanaf base was where
- 16:45Speaker 3: they were recruiting, arming and training all manner of terrorist factions,
- 16:50Speaker 3: but including ISIS to be able to traverse Iraq and
- 16:55Speaker 3: reach the Iranian border. You then have the same in
- 16:58Speaker 3: the northeast that ISIS might potentially cross Iraq if it can.
- 17:03Speaker 3: Of course, there is resistance forces in Iraq towards the
- 17:07Speaker 3: Iranian border. You have the threat there from Kurdistan factions
- 17:12Speaker 3: both inside Iran and on the border with Iran. In
- 17:15Speaker 3: Iraq from the top there in Azerbaijan, Britain and sorry,
- 17:19Speaker 3: well yes, Britain, the US and Israel have been building
- 17:22Speaker 3: up their influence, their surveillance capability and military presence in Azerbaijan,
- 17:29Speaker 3: which is on the northern border of Iran. Going around
- 17:32Speaker 3: again to Turkmenistan, many of the terrorists that are actually
- 17:37Speaker 3: in Syria came from Turkmenistan, so again I consider that
- 17:41Speaker 3: to be a threat. And you also have another Kurdish area.
- 17:45Speaker 4: They're also from Pakistan.
- 17:47Speaker 3: You have terrorists from the Blotchikstan area that may join
- 17:53Speaker 3: with the Boloch freedom fighters as they're called in the
- 17:56Speaker 3: south of Iran. And also I would say we can't
- 17:59Speaker 3: discount India. President Prime Minister Modi is in Israel today.
- 18:04Speaker 4: They've agreed on.
- 18:05Speaker 3: An eight point six billion defense agreement, and Israel is
- 18:10Speaker 3: providing India with defense defense technology, and India is the
- 18:16Speaker 3: first to receive it. It's never actually been given either
- 18:19Speaker 3: to the US or to the UK, or to any
- 18:21Speaker 3: other country in the Zionist block, but it's being given
- 18:26Speaker 3: to India. So basically, this is how I perceive the
- 18:30Speaker 3: war is going to proceed against Iran.
- 18:35Speaker 1: Thank you for that, Vanessa. I'm sure we'll talk more
- 18:37Speaker 1: an extra on that. Charles, let's come over to you then.
- 18:41Speaker 1: And of course, if we've got warfronts in Ukraine, in
- 18:45Speaker 1: the Middle East, in Iran, also increasingly the rhetoric about
- 18:50Speaker 1: the Arctic continues to build.
- 18:54Speaker 2: It does, indeed, and it's all part of one bigger picture.
- 18:58Speaker 2: And of course, as you pointed out and deed Bryan
- 19:02Speaker 2: spoke about on Monday, we have just passed what's being
- 19:05Speaker 2: described as the fourth anniversary of the Russian intervention into Ukraine.
- 19:09Speaker 2: So as you can imagine, the messaging machine went absolutely crazy,
- 19:12Speaker 2: and the Chief of the Defense Staff was no exception,
- 19:18Speaker 2: retweeting this from the Ministry of Defense saying that Putin
- 19:21Speaker 2: thought he could wipe Ukraine off the map in a
- 19:24Speaker 2: matter of days, and basically confirming Ministry of Defense does
- 19:28Speaker 2: still stand with Ukraine. We will listen to what the
- 19:32Speaker 2: Chief of the Defense Staff said yesterday as he read
- 19:35Speaker 2: off a script.
- 19:38Speaker 6: As Chief of the Defense Staff, I know that Ukraine's
- 19:40Speaker 6: defense is Britain security. I've seen firsthand the bravery, ingenuity
- 19:46Speaker 6: and courage of Ukrainians, civilians and military alike. Ukraine and
- 19:52Speaker 6: its people continue to stand strong with the support of
- 19:55Speaker 6: their allies. They continue to stand strong and make sacrifices
- 19:59Speaker 6: daily to protect their home. Just this month at NATO,
- 20:04Speaker 6: the Ukraine Defense Contact Group and at the Munich Security Conference,
- 20:08Speaker 6: we showed our Western alliance and our support for Ukraine
- 20:12Speaker 6: is as strong as ever. As the war enters its
- 20:16Speaker 6: fifth year, our resolve will not falter. We will stand
- 20:20Speaker 6: with Ukraine for as long as it takes. We will
- 20:23Speaker 6: continue to put them in the strongest possible position for peace.
- 20:30Speaker 2: He's never going to enter an operational theater. There's absolutely
- 20:33Speaker 2: no need for him to be wearing combats. This is
- 20:35Speaker 2: a propaganda exercise and it confirms his status as a
- 20:37Speaker 2: political agent in what is increasingly to be regarded as
- 20:41Speaker 2: a media organization. Now this does go hand in hand
- 20:46Speaker 2: with the release the press release about further support for
- 20:51Speaker 2: Ukraine and same old thing essentially money. But the critical
- 20:57Speaker 2: detail here, which of course we did point out at
- 20:58Speaker 2: the time, it's part of the additional support and Mike's
- 21:02Speaker 2: just refer to the Coalition of the willing, but not able.
- 21:04Speaker 2: And we're following the landmark declaration in January of the
- 21:08Speaker 2: UK's intent to deploy British troops to Ukraine once piece
- 21:13Speaker 2: is secured. Of course, we had the spectacle of Boris
- 21:15Speaker 2: Johnson on Monday talking to Laura Cooonsberg about his particular
- 21:19Speaker 2: theories on where and when British troops should be deployed.
- 21:24Speaker 2: But what we'll do now is just go a little
- 21:26Speaker 2: bit further back to the Immunich Security Conference and listen
- 21:28Speaker 2: to what Kirs Starmer said about other deployments.
- 21:32Speaker 7: I can announce today that the UK will deploy our
- 21:37Speaker 7: Carrier Strike Group to the North Atlantic and the High
- 21:40Speaker 7: North this year, led by HMS Prince of Wales, operating
- 21:47Speaker 7: alongside the US, Canada and other NATO allies, in a
- 21:53Speaker 7: powerful show of our commitment to euro Atlantic security.
- 22:04Speaker 2: So again, same old story, but slightly different area that
- 22:07Speaker 2: we're referring to here, And of course it's worth pointing
- 22:10Speaker 2: out the carrier strike group he refers to is the
- 22:14Speaker 2: only one. It's not a carrier strike group. It is
- 22:17Speaker 2: the carrier strike group, which gives a significant indication of
- 22:21Speaker 2: exactly what the capability is with regard to the High
- 22:24Speaker 2: North or the Arctic region described as keeping the UK safe,
- 22:29Speaker 2: but safe from what exactly never really articulated particularly, but
- 22:35Speaker 2: of course this is part of a more joined up process. Here.
- 22:39Speaker 2: We've got nor at the North American Aerospace Defense Command
- 22:42Speaker 2: convening Exercise Arctic Edge. So they're all at it now.
- 22:48Speaker 2: They are keen to point out with all the rhetoric
- 22:51Speaker 2: around Greenland earlier on this year and at the end
- 22:53Speaker 2: of last year, they specify that all training activities in
- 22:57Speaker 2: Greenland are conducted in full coordination with the Kingdom of Denmark.
- 23:03Speaker 2: And they go on to say that they're improving readiness,
- 23:06Speaker 2: demonstrating capabilities, enhancing interoperability among multinational, interagency and joint force
- 23:13Speaker 2: partners in the Arctics. It also sounds very cooperative, but
- 23:17Speaker 2: is that really the case? Is that what we should
- 23:20Speaker 2: be taking away from it, and I think the question
- 23:23Speaker 2: is worth asking. We look now at the Joint Expeditionary Force,
- 23:25Speaker 2: which have been up and running for a number of years.
- 23:28Speaker 2: But of course most notable if you can't see the image,
- 23:31Speaker 2: is that it does not involve any North American nations.
- 23:35Speaker 2: It is comprised of Europeans. Of course, they, as you
- 23:38Speaker 2: would expect, do stand with Ukraine. Their promotional video shows
- 23:43Speaker 2: lots of wolf fighting capabilities up in the Arctic region.
- 23:50Speaker 2: And I think the question to be asked here is
- 23:54Speaker 2: there actually going to be the potential for some degree
- 23:58Speaker 2: of friction as we have more organizations, more cooperatives, more
- 24:02Speaker 2: groups apparently entering the fray or at least posing to
- 24:07Speaker 2: do exactly that. As to how the JEF stands with
- 24:13Speaker 2: regard to NATO, this diagram is supposed to clear it
- 24:16Speaker 2: up for you. I would say it doesn't help enormously
- 24:19Speaker 2: if you can't see it. It's a rather confusing sort
- 24:22Speaker 2: of crisscross diagram or sort of to replicate a ven diagram,
- 24:26Speaker 2: suggesting that NATO JF integration and mutual advantage is of
- 24:31Speaker 2: course going to be where they coalesce, where they find
- 24:35Speaker 2: a shared aim and a shared identity. Now As for
- 24:40Speaker 2: NATO itself, of course, they have also just launched a
- 24:45Speaker 2: press piece about what they're describing as Arctic Security, and
- 24:50Speaker 2: this is under the banner of Arctic Century, something that's
- 24:53Speaker 2: being stood up this month February twenty twenty six, and
- 24:56Speaker 2: it reflects the Allies collective understanding that NATO must do
- 25:00Speaker 2: even more as an alliance to ensure security in the
- 25:02Speaker 2: Arctic and the High North and to further strengthen its
- 25:06Speaker 2: ability to operate in the region. Now, what exactly is
- 25:12Speaker 2: one meant to take from that? They of course describe
- 25:16Speaker 2: the backstory they've been actively increasing their presence by establishing
- 25:20Speaker 2: new structures throughout the High North, and that they're enhancing
- 25:23Speaker 2: the alliance's situational awareness and the ability to operate in
- 25:29Speaker 2: the region. Now, as I say, we're now looking at
- 25:33Speaker 2: not just NATO, but also the Joint Expeditionary Force, the
- 25:38Speaker 2: Coalition of the Willing, and the Board of Peace, to
- 25:41Speaker 2: name but a few organizations that are all wanting in
- 25:44Speaker 2: effect to take ownership of the delivery of strength sorry,
- 25:49Speaker 2: peace through strength. This is one absolutely gigantic propaganda exercise.
- 25:55Speaker 2: And just to illustrate that, I'll pick out a piece
- 26:00Speaker 2: from the BBC yesterday in which they said that Russian
- 26:04Speaker 2: soldiers tell the BBC that they saw fellow troops executed
- 26:08Speaker 2: on commanders orders, as though this would only ever happen
- 26:11Speaker 2: in Russia and absolutely nowhere else. So we only have
- 26:14Speaker 2: to go to the National Arboretum, the National Memorial Arboretum
- 26:17Speaker 2: to look at the Shot at Dawn Memorial, which commemorates
- 26:20Speaker 2: three hundred and nine British and Commonwealth soldiers who were
- 26:23Speaker 2: shot for desertion, cowardice, striking senior officer and so forth
- 26:28Speaker 2: during the First World War. So these things do happen
- 26:32Speaker 2: in places outside of Russia, if indeed they do happen
- 26:35Speaker 2: in Russia. But of course the propaganda is the central
- 26:38Speaker 2: for us do this. Mike, I'd be interested in your
- 26:42Speaker 2: comment on where you see this going, in particular sort
- 26:46Speaker 2: of alongside the push for deployment of troops into Ukraine.
- 26:50Speaker 1: Well, I'm fascinated. I mean, I knew anyway better just
- 26:54Speaker 1: as you express it than the way that you have.
- 26:56Speaker 1: The Joint Expedition Force. Of course, is UK and Europe
- 27:00Speaker 1: working together. This is the embryonic European Defense Union, if
- 27:04Speaker 1: you like, the United States has no part to play
- 27:06Speaker 1: in it. And of course this fits in with the
- 27:09Speaker 1: whole narrative from the US, from the Trump administration, going
- 27:13Speaker 1: back to the pre election days where they were presenting
- 27:17Speaker 1: this idea that UK and Europe needs to be looking
- 27:20Speaker 1: after Russia while they're busy looking in other directions. Obviously
- 27:23Speaker 1: they're now looking at Iran, They're they're still looking at
- 27:27Speaker 1: Latin America and so on. So they're busy and they
- 27:30Speaker 1: want Europe to continue with this, with this effort against Russia.
- 27:35Speaker 1: But you know, it's if they're serious about opposing Russia militarily,
- 27:44Speaker 1: they've got either continue with the proxy war in Ukraine
- 27:47Speaker 1: or they have to wrap it up because they don't
- 27:49Speaker 1: actually have the men or material to actually prosecute a
- 27:54Speaker 1: proper kinetic war. So in the meantime, we're just have
- 27:57Speaker 1: to we just have to suck up the propaganda and
- 28:00Speaker 1: the hybrid attack on us as much as on anybody else.
- 28:06Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think that's exactly it. You know,
- 28:08Speaker 2: all this rhetoric, particularly where the United Kingdom is concerned,
- 28:11Speaker 2: is absolutely not reinforced by any suggestion that we do
- 28:14Speaker 2: actually have the capability to be able to meet what's
- 28:17Speaker 2: being described as a thirty percent increase in threats from
- 28:21Speaker 2: Russian naval vessels in UK waters and all that kind
- 28:24Speaker 2: of thing, and of course they don't miss any opportunity
- 28:26Speaker 2: to talk about the equipment that's being used from both
- 28:29Speaker 2: Russia and China. So this is a sort of catch
- 28:31Speaker 2: or propaganda net.
- 28:34Speaker 1: Indeed, Okay, we need to move on. So let's say
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- 29:05Speaker 1: bit later in the program. Now, if you didn't see
- 29:07Speaker 1: the video that went out in the one o'clock slot
- 29:11Speaker 1: yesterday from Rotherham to Epstein, please do watch it now.
- 29:14Speaker 1: This was a presentation was given at a UK Column
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- 29:27Speaker 1: what we aim to do in this presentation was to
- 29:29Speaker 1: put all the various grooming gangs stories in context in
- 29:36Speaker 1: the context of the overall child abuse picture in this country.
- 29:39Speaker 1: Because Epstein is only part of it. Grooming gangs are
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- 29:52Speaker 1: Jerem is talking about revising established history. This is going
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- 30:02Speaker 1: that at seven pm. And at nine pm Carl is
- 30:07Speaker 1: taking a look at Starmar's recent visit to China, so
- 30:10Speaker 1: join him at nine for that. Tomorrow at one pm
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- 30:18Speaker 1: keeping children safe and what's being taught in libraries or
- 30:22Speaker 1: via libraries anyway. That's Kathy Mudge and two colleagues. Join
- 30:26Speaker 1: Diane for that interview at one pm tomorrow. And there
- 30:29Speaker 1: is an article on the UK column website that goes
- 30:33Speaker 1: alongside that, entitled Queerfest at Extra Library, Devon County Council's
- 30:38Speaker 1: Child Safety Test. So quite a lot of content for
- 30:41Speaker 1: you to have a look at there. Please do and
- 30:44Speaker 1: please particularly share it if you possibly can, that would
- 30:47Speaker 1: be fantastic. Now let's move on to the issue of
- 30:51Speaker 1: digital identity, because UK Immigration Enforcement is planning a third
- 30:57Speaker 1: trial of live facial recognition at Holllyyod Port in North Wales,
- 31:02Speaker 1: is a ferry port. This follows the two previous trials
- 31:05Speaker 1: that Charles reported on last year, and in those previous trials,
- 31:10Speaker 1: at Home Office claims that those resulted in seven and
- 31:13Speaker 1: a half thousand faces scanned, with no incorrect alerts and
- 31:17Speaker 1: one arrest made. There you go anyway, travelers arriving in
- 31:21Speaker 1: the UK from Ireland are going to be scanned and
- 31:23Speaker 1: compared against a database of offenders and people of interest,
- 31:27Speaker 1: and that's beginning this week now. This is apparently because
- 31:31Speaker 1: the UK Intelligence Services are reporting that individuals are using
- 31:36Speaker 1: the Common Travel Area. This is the vastly pre European
- 31:40Speaker 1: Union agreement between Britain and Ireland about traveling between those
- 31:43Speaker 1: two countries. So they're using the Common Travel Area to
- 31:47Speaker 1: come into Britain without the normal checks. Because, as I've
- 31:51Speaker 1: reported on this program many times, if you're traveling from
- 31:54Speaker 1: Britain to Ireland, you're required to show your passport at
- 31:57Speaker 1: Dublin Port. But if you are traveling from our to Britain,
- 32:01Speaker 1: or from from Dublin or from Belfast to Kearn Ryan
- 32:05Speaker 1: for example, or Belfast to Liverpool, there are no passport
- 32:09Speaker 1: controls in those ports. So coming into the UK there
- 32:12Speaker 1: are currently no passport controls, but they're going to use
- 32:15Speaker 1: facial recognition instead. So golf dot UK then has released
- 32:20Speaker 1: a report on the legal mandate for live facial recognition
- 32:23Speaker 1: at ports and they're saying that the use of live
- 32:26Speaker 1: facial recognition technology can enhance the home offices intelligence capability
- 32:30Speaker 1: by comparing disembarking passengers against a watch list of individuals
- 32:38Speaker 1: subject to extant or deportation orders or people who are
- 32:42Speaker 1: wanted on warrant in relation to an immigration related criminal offense.
- 32:46Speaker 1: So it's clear now that this is going to be
- 32:48Speaker 1: ruled out nationally. The question is has the Starmer regime
- 32:52Speaker 1: done enough to radicalize people over the immigration issue that
- 32:56Speaker 1: this panopticon that they're trying to build is going to
- 32:58Speaker 1: be welcomed by everyone will see and directly we'll be
- 33:02Speaker 1: talking that talking about that an extra as well. Now,
- 33:05Speaker 1: the question is how is this going to be regulated? Well,
- 33:07Speaker 1: late last year Starmar announced a consultation on the legal
- 33:12Speaker 1: framework for life facial recognition use, and that consultation closed
- 33:16Speaker 1: on the twelfth of this month, and Professor William Webster,
- 33:20Speaker 1: who's the Biometrics and Surveillance Camera Commissioner, has published a
- 33:25Speaker 1: response and he said that the new framework should be
- 33:28Speaker 1: principles based rather than technology lead. It should focus on purpose, proportionality, necessity,
- 33:34Speaker 1: and harm rather than specific technologies, and that's all going
- 33:38Speaker 1: to make sure that it's future proof. And he said
- 33:40Speaker 1: that its scope could extend beyond law enforcement agencies law
- 33:45Speaker 1: enforcement agency sorry to include all public and private organizations
- 33:48Speaker 1: conducting surveillance for law and enforcement or for public safety purposes.
- 33:54Speaker 1: And my question that would be does that include the
- 33:56Speaker 1: likes of Palenteer, because that's not clear at this point.
- 34:00Speaker 1: That he said that the framework should have a codified
- 34:02Speaker 1: restrictive approach making specified activities in offense unless strict criteria
- 34:08Speaker 1: are met, mirroring the Investigatory Pars Act at twenty sixteen,
- 34:12Speaker 1: because that is a spectacular piece of legislation, isn't it.
- 34:17Speaker 1: And then he said that high risk deployments should require
- 34:20Speaker 1: pre authorization by an independent regulator, and he described a
- 34:24Speaker 1: new statutory independent regulatory body which could be created merging
- 34:28Speaker 1: the existing Forensic Science Regulator and Biometrics and Surveillance Camera
- 34:32Speaker 1: Commissioner Roles. So in other words, he's tyling for a job.
- 34:37Speaker 1: And he said that this body should have robust powers
- 34:39Speaker 1: of audit, inspection and compliance enforcement, that it should report
- 34:43Speaker 1: directly to Parliament and should cooperate as a single point
- 34:46Speaker 1: of contact for industry and the public. So in other words,
- 34:49Speaker 1: like the MHRA, the role would be that of an
- 34:52Speaker 1: enabler and lobby organization rather than a regulator in the
- 34:56Speaker 1: strict sense. And then finally he said that meaningful public
- 35:00Speaker 1: engagement and force at a foresight function to anticipate emerging
- 35:04Speaker 1: technologies must be embedded in the regulator from the outset. Well,
- 35:07Speaker 1: we'll see. But the question is where will all the
- 35:10Speaker 1: data go? And the answer is into a database of course,
- 35:14Speaker 1: but will it be safe there? Because absolutely not. Yet
- 35:17Speaker 1: another potential data breach has taken place as time for
- 35:20Speaker 1: one billion, yes one billion, digital ID records, and now
- 35:25Speaker 1: these are believed to be to have contained highly sensitive
- 35:28Speaker 1: personal information from at least twenty six countries and totally
- 35:32Speaker 1: about a terabyte of data. The UK doesn't seem to
- 35:36Speaker 1: have been affected by it. The United States, South America,
- 35:39Speaker 1: most of the EU, China and Australia were the data
- 35:42Speaker 1: is believed to have been on a database run by
- 35:44Speaker 1: id Merit, whose little video clip you saw on screen
- 35:47Speaker 1: there and now this is a global identity verification company,
- 35:52Speaker 1: and no one knows how long the database was accessible
- 35:55Speaker 1: to just about anyone that wanted to come and have
- 35:56Speaker 1: a look at it. It was supposedly secured after the
- 36:00Speaker 1: company was informed informed of the issue by security researchers,
- 36:04Speaker 1: and those researchers noted that the company has not issued
- 36:07Speaker 1: any kind of detailed public statement or confirmed specifics of
- 36:11Speaker 1: the incident, and in fact, the company itself appears to
- 36:14Speaker 1: be claiming that this is all fake news and nothing
- 36:18Speaker 1: to see there. Of course it is not. But then finally,
- 36:21Speaker 1: just very quickly, the Office for Digital Identities and Attributes
- 36:25Speaker 1: has published the results of a survey of digital ID
- 36:28Speaker 1: providers and basically the upshot of this is that they
- 36:31Speaker 1: are very very keen to see international interoperability and Britain
- 36:35Speaker 1: leading the role leading the way on international interoperability on
- 36:40Speaker 1: this because that will put them in a very good
- 36:44Speaker 1: position as far as the digital ID market goes. So
- 36:47Speaker 1: Britain to be driving this, Charles. Let's head back to
- 36:52Speaker 1: you then, and the question of ethics and war, and
- 36:55Speaker 1: really this is about AI I suppose.
- 36:59Speaker 2: It is, and ethics is very closely related to what
- 37:02Speaker 2: you've just been talking about in many ways, which I'll
- 37:04Speaker 2: sort of come to. But I've start with what Donald
- 37:07Speaker 2: Trump was saying during parts of his State of the
- 37:10Speaker 2: Union address, and in particular trying to boast about and
- 37:13Speaker 2: sort of gone a support for military or warlike activities,
- 37:18Speaker 2: and he's there. This has all been sort of retweeted
- 37:20Speaker 2: by the rapid response element of the Department of War.
- 37:25Speaker 2: They began by reiterating the point that they've got the
- 37:28Speaker 2: Warrior Dividend, essentially a tax free payment to those serving
- 37:32Speaker 2: in the armed forces of seventeen hundred and seventy six dollars.
- 37:37Speaker 2: And then we've got at the bottom of that in
- 37:39Speaker 2: small text which I've highlighted, peace through strength, of course,
- 37:43Speaker 2: the message to be spat out every possible opportunity to
- 37:47Speaker 2: reinforce what we're all supposed to believe. We've then got
- 37:50Speaker 2: the Midnight Hammer, the operation in Iran as choreographed by
- 37:55Speaker 2: Tom Cruise in the Top Gun Maverick film. And then
- 37:59Speaker 2: we have of the Medal of Honor going to Eric
- 38:03Speaker 2: Solver for Operation Absolute Resolve. By some strange quirk, E
- 38:09Speaker 2: Solver is of course an anagram of resolve, So quite
- 38:13Speaker 2: what that potential I wouldn't know. But the thing that
- 38:15Speaker 2: unites all of these is really the question of necessity.
- 38:18Speaker 2: And of course Trump is there talking about all of them,
- 38:20Speaker 2: but without making it at all clear that any of
- 38:23Speaker 2: these military operations weren't any way necessary. And that takes
- 38:27Speaker 2: us to a former employee of Anthropic, and he's MIANK Sharma,
- 38:35Speaker 2: the head of a team into safeguarding research, and he's
- 38:39Speaker 2: just left. He's put a letter of resignation where else
- 38:42Speaker 2: on X. In it, he says that he continuously finds
- 38:46Speaker 2: himself reckoning with our situation, meaning that of Anthropic in
- 38:49Speaker 2: the AI world. The world is in peril, and not
- 38:53Speaker 2: just from AI or bioweapons, but from a whole series
- 38:56Speaker 2: of interconnected crises unfolding in this very moment. We appear
- 39:01Speaker 2: to be approaching a threshold where our wisdom must grow
- 39:03Speaker 2: an equal measure to our capacity to affect the world
- 39:06Speaker 2: lest we face the consequences. Now, he then goes into
- 39:09Speaker 2: some poetry and whatnot. So it seems rather oblique, but
- 39:12Speaker 2: what he's actually referring to is what Anthropic has been
- 39:15Speaker 2: tasked to do by the Department for War. And turns
- 39:20Speaker 2: out he's not the only one Anthropic that may be
- 39:23Speaker 2: developing a conscience, and we have here from the Hill.
- 39:26Speaker 2: The Pentagon threatens to cancel Anthropic contract by Friday if
- 39:30Speaker 2: the company doesn't lift safeguard. So just to get a
- 39:33Speaker 2: flavor of what this is about. From the Hill, Defense
- 39:37Speaker 2: Extry Hexith met with Anthropic CEO on Tuesday at the
- 39:40Speaker 2: Pentagon amid a dispute over the AI firm's usage policy,
- 39:44Speaker 2: which bars its model Clawed from being used for mass
- 39:49Speaker 2: surveillance or to develop weapons that can be used without
- 39:54Speaker 2: human oversights. Now this has become something I think that
- 39:59Speaker 2: has hasn't had nearly enough scrutiny at all over the years.
- 40:03Speaker 2: So it's a very interesting marker in the sand that
- 40:06Speaker 2: Anthropic has created here or potentially will create. Depends whether
- 40:10Speaker 2: they're going to stand their ground or not. So I
- 40:12Speaker 2: won't go into any further detail about that because obviously
- 40:15Speaker 2: we don't know exactly what is going to happen. But
- 40:18Speaker 2: what we should do is then look at this side
- 40:20Speaker 2: of the Atlantic and to dese it, which of course
- 40:24Speaker 2: has Anthropic as a partner in what's being described as
- 40:28Speaker 2: the incorporation of top British AI expertise to help spark
- 40:32Speaker 2: the renewal of public services and bolster national security. So
- 40:36Speaker 2: what sort of consequence is this going to participitate with
- 40:40Speaker 2: the relationship with Anthropic here described as specialists developing cutting
- 40:45Speaker 2: edge AI solutions which will run offline to support national
- 40:50Speaker 2: security and defense teams to make vital decisions whilst safeguarding
- 40:56Speaker 2: sensitive data. Going well, if we just think back to
- 40:58Speaker 2: what Mike's literally just been talking about, how can they
- 41:00Speaker 2: possibly say that that can be safeguarded in the first place,
- 41:05Speaker 2: But this should be set alongside the start. Contrast with
- 41:09Speaker 2: Clearview AI's position which I reported on back in twenty
- 41:12Speaker 2: twenty three on their line on the war in Ukraine,
- 41:15Speaker 2: which is essentially to say that they were going to
- 41:17Speaker 2: pick a side and they were going to utilize their
- 41:19Speaker 2: technology or at least offer it up for targeting purposes.
- 41:24Speaker 2: Here seen different ways to our technology could be used
- 41:26Speaker 2: to help. And then they had a bit up on
- 41:29Speaker 2: their website citing a Time magazine article about Ukraine's secret weapon.
- 41:34Speaker 2: Basically as though their live facial recognition technology was used
- 41:37Speaker 2: in order to bring about the death of particular individuals.
- 41:43Speaker 2: There won't be a reference to this in the show
- 41:44Speaker 2: notes because they've subsequently removed it from their website. So
- 41:48Speaker 2: those are images that I'd captured at the time. And
- 41:50Speaker 2: just to close off, I just want to finish with
- 41:53Speaker 2: a look at the review from the Ministry of Defense
- 41:55Speaker 2: into the regulatory system governing uncrude and autonomous systems in defense.
- 41:59Speaker 2: Of course, I reported on the Red Dragon, aero environment
- 42:03Speaker 2: technology suicide drone that the Americans have basically produced and
- 42:07Speaker 2: are going to use. And just to make the point
- 42:10Speaker 2: that the Ministry of Defense here behaving very much like
- 42:12Speaker 2: the MHRA, which is to act as an enabler and
- 42:15Speaker 2: be concerned much more with the speed and the provision
- 42:17Speaker 2: of service as to whether it's actually right or not.
- 42:20Speaker 2: So one of the questions asked in the consultation is
- 42:22Speaker 2: this fit to enable you to achieve the aims of
- 42:25Speaker 2: your organization? And then several other questions in between, and
- 42:30Speaker 2: they then ask what can be done to enable the
- 42:33Speaker 2: government to make the investment in autonomy to be realized
- 42:39Speaker 2: faster and frankly, this is all that they seem to
- 42:42Speaker 2: care about ethics absolutely cast to the win. So we
- 42:46Speaker 2: return to the situation with anthropropic in the States and
- 42:49Speaker 2: see what this does actually tease out the woodwork and
- 42:52Speaker 2: what the result of that particular situation will be.
- 42:56Speaker 1: Indeed, and we'll see we'll see what direction open AI
- 42:59Speaker 1: goes as well. And because all the big AI companies
- 43:03Speaker 1: are going to have to make this decision at some pointess.
- 43:05Speaker 1: So let's come back to you then and move back
- 43:07Speaker 1: to the Middle East and the question of what Israel
- 43:10Speaker 1: is doing.
- 43:12Speaker 3: Yeah, interesting, the question of conscience very quickly, and we
- 43:15Speaker 3: should discuss that in extra that there is a potential
- 43:19Speaker 3: that the crew of the USS gerald Ford are actually
- 43:23Speaker 3: pushing back against their three hundred days at sea in
- 43:26Speaker 3: the potential of being targeted in a war against Duran,
- 43:29Speaker 3: and they are potentially sabotaging the mission. So that's something
- 43:33Speaker 3: we should definitely discuss in extra because perhaps conscience is
- 43:37Speaker 3: now coming to the fore among many of the military
- 43:41Speaker 3: and some of these surveillance and AI organizations just on
- 43:46Speaker 3: a side. So of course as well, in addition to
- 43:49Speaker 3: building up the proxy forces as part of the hybrid
- 43:53Speaker 3: war against Duron, of course, it's threatening the Lebanese resistance.
- 43:58Speaker 3: It's basically messages through various diplomats and politicians in Lebanon
- 44:05Speaker 3: saying if HESBLA should respond in any way, if the
- 44:10Speaker 3: US and Israel enter a war with Iran, it would
- 44:14Speaker 3: hit multiple targets, more than one two hundred targets in Lebanon,
- 44:18Speaker 3: including the only civilian airport, which of course would of
- 44:24Speaker 3: course be a humanitarian war crime with multiple civilian flights
- 44:31Speaker 3: coming in and departing on a daily basis. And then
- 44:35Speaker 3: basically in the last three days, they've carried out an
- 44:39Speaker 3: extensive attack on the eastern border in Lebanon, in the
- 44:43Speaker 3: Bakar area. If we can just have the slide up
- 44:45Speaker 3: on screen, the death toll from the Israeli strike comes
- 44:50Speaker 3: to now ten people killed, including the leadership of HESBLA,
- 44:54Speaker 3: over thirty injured, the majority of civilians. At the same time,
- 45:00Speaker 3: they've also carried out jerne strikes against Lebanese army positions
- 45:05Speaker 3: in the south because the Lebanese army dead to actually
- 45:10Speaker 3: establish a new border post in southern Lebanese territory without
- 45:14Speaker 3: coordination with Israel, so heaven forbid they do that and
- 45:18Speaker 3: act as if Lebanon is a sovereign country, so Israel
- 45:21Speaker 3: carried out strikes. And finally, I want to actually bring
- 45:25Speaker 3: everyone's attention to this story, which I think broke the
- 45:28Speaker 3: heart of everyone here in Lubanon. You either die with
- 45:32Speaker 3: your family around you, or you die alone. This is
- 45:36Speaker 3: a gentleman who is I think a sixty two year
- 45:39Speaker 3: old father and grandfather. He went with his wife to
- 45:42Speaker 3: visit his family in Sudden, Lubanon. He received a call
- 45:46Speaker 3: from an Israeli number saying, you have a choice. You
- 45:49Speaker 3: can die with your entire family and his wife's family,
- 45:52Speaker 3: or you can leave them and die alone. He made
- 45:55Speaker 3: the choice, He left his family, he got into his
- 45:58Speaker 3: car and he was a sacinated. So just for people
- 46:01Speaker 3: to understand the sheer psychopathic psychopathy that is being generated
- 46:07Speaker 3: against the Lebanese people on an almost daily basis.
- 46:13Speaker 1: Thanks Vanessa for that report, and I have plenty to
- 46:17Speaker 1: talk about an extra's day, it seems. Now, let's come
- 46:19Speaker 1: back to the UK and online safety. On Monday this week,
- 46:23Speaker 1: then Ofcom announced that they have fined the porn company
- 46:29Speaker 1: IT five seven nine LLC one point three five million
- 46:32Speaker 1: pounds for not having age verification checks in place, plus
- 46:37Speaker 1: fifty thousand pounds for not responding to an information request
- 46:41Speaker 1: from OFFCOM. Now, under the Online Safety Act, any site
- 46:46Speaker 1: that allows pornographic material must use what they describe, as
- 46:51Speaker 1: we've described it many times highly effective age assurance to
- 46:54Speaker 1: prevent children from getting access to that type of content. Now,
- 46:59Speaker 1: within day of that coming into force in July twenty
- 47:04Speaker 1: twenty five, they OFCOM launched investigations into lots of adult sites,
- 47:09Speaker 1: including it five to seven nine LLC and so on. Now,
- 47:14Speaker 1: the thing is that they have had this fine put
- 47:17Speaker 1: in place fulfilling to comply with the age verification requirements.
- 47:22Speaker 1: They go on to say that, of course that fine
- 47:25Speaker 1: increases by one hundred by sorry, about one thousand pounds
- 47:28Speaker 1: per day if this company doesn't pay up. But the
- 47:31Speaker 1: question I wanted answered was how would they actually collect
- 47:35Speaker 1: this money, bearing in mind that eight five to seventy
- 47:37Speaker 1: nine LLC is not a UK company. So I asked them,
- 47:40Speaker 1: and this was their response. If a provider fails to
- 47:44Speaker 1: pay a fine, Offcome is entitled to seek recovery of
- 47:47Speaker 1: those penalties where appropriate. If a provider fails to comply
- 47:50Speaker 1: with the requirement to implement age assurance, we can also
- 47:54Speaker 1: seek a courte order for business disruption measures such as
- 47:57Speaker 1: requiring payment providers or advertisers to withdraw their services from
- 48:01Speaker 1: a platform, or requiring Internet service providers to block a
- 48:05Speaker 1: site in the UK. So, in other words, it's all
- 48:08Speaker 1: smoke and mirrors. They are grabbing headlines by issuing these fines,
- 48:13Speaker 1: then they're not in a position to actually do anything.
- 48:16Speaker 1: So when they post a press release describing how they
- 48:19Speaker 1: how they've actually received any money from such a fine,
- 48:22Speaker 1: then maybe we can take them seriously. In the meantime,
- 48:25Speaker 1: Discord has apology apologized for its age assurance mess up
- 48:30Speaker 1: when it announced the volunteer funded identity provider Persona might
- 48:34Speaker 1: collect data from users as part of an experiment related
- 48:38Speaker 1: to Discords age assurance rollout, and they've also said that
- 48:42Speaker 1: they're delaying the global age verification rollout now. They said,
- 48:47Speaker 1: the way this landed, many of you walked away thinking
- 48:49Speaker 1: we are requiring fiscans and id uploads from everyone just
- 48:53Speaker 1: to use Discord. That's not what's happening, but the fact
- 48:56Speaker 1: that so many people believe it is tells us we
- 48:59Speaker 1: filled our more basic job clearly explaining what we're doing
- 49:02Speaker 1: and why that's on us as a typical marketing nonsense,
- 49:07Speaker 1: But They also attempted to reassure everyone about the fairly
- 49:10Speaker 1: big data breach that they suffered at the end of
- 49:13Speaker 1: last year, which we reported at the time. To be clear,
- 49:17Speaker 1: it went on to say, we do not use the
- 49:20Speaker 1: vendor who caused the data breach last year for age assurance.
- 49:23Speaker 1: In fact, we no longer work with them at all,
- 49:25Speaker 1: and we've taken lessons from that incident seriously, really well.
- 49:30Speaker 1: Back in the UK, then, the Information Commissioner has fined
- 49:35Speaker 1: Reddit fourteen point four to seven million pounds after deciding
- 49:40Speaker 1: that Reddit had failed to use children's personal information lawfully.
- 49:45Speaker 1: They cited serious failures in age assurance under UK data
- 49:50Speaker 1: protection law, and they said that Reddit failed to comply
- 49:55Speaker 1: with any robust age assurance mechanism and therefore did not
- 49:58Speaker 1: have a lawful basis processing the personal information of children
- 50:02Speaker 1: under the age of thirteen. And they said that it
- 50:05Speaker 1: failed to carry out a data protection impact assessment to
- 50:08Speaker 1: assess and mitigate risks to children before January twenty twenty five.
- 50:13Speaker 1: But if anyone thinks, well, no problem, I'll just move
- 50:16Speaker 1: to Russia to avoid all this nonsense, we'll no actually,
- 50:19Speaker 1: because as Russian news website www one reports, customers have
- 50:24Speaker 1: been using the max Messenger app to verify their age
- 50:28Speaker 1: when purchasing goods from shops that need to be age
- 50:33Speaker 1: verified of being over eighteen, and that's now happened more
- 50:36Speaker 1: than a million times, so that number continues to grow daily.
- 50:40Speaker 1: They report, and they report the State Secretary Deputy Minister
- 50:45Speaker 1: of Industry saying to explaining this to reporters. Now this
- 50:51Speaker 1: works at eighteen of Russia's largest retailers and more than
- 50:55Speaker 1: seventy thousand stores. So the same kind of problem of
- 51:01Speaker 1: age assurance, digital ID, online safety, these types of issues
- 51:06Speaker 1: as active in those countries as they are in ours.
- 51:09Speaker 1: So right, Charles, let's move on then, back to the
- 51:14Speaker 1: issue of politics in the UK.
- 51:19Speaker 2: We will, and we'll return to the significant amount of
- 51:23Speaker 2: attention that's been garnered by Rupert Lowe's announcement that Restore
- 51:27Speaker 2: Britain will become a sort of a formal entity. And
- 51:30Speaker 2: I think the question to be asked is what sort
- 51:34Speaker 2: of Britain are they aiming to restore? Because Rupert Lowe,
- 51:38Speaker 2: certainly at a closer inspection, is not quite who he
- 51:41Speaker 2: purports to be. And we've got the announcement now that
- 51:44Speaker 2: all Minihan is going to be the spokesman or spokesperson
- 51:49Speaker 2: for violence against women and girls, but specifically all are
- 51:52Speaker 2: founded the Pink Ladies, a national network dedicated to protecting
- 51:56Speaker 2: women from migrant crime. So actually it's not us violence
- 52:00Speaker 2: against women and girls, as there's definitely an angle here,
- 52:03Speaker 2: but we'll just take a quick look before we come
- 52:05Speaker 2: to that at who she is. This is her on
- 52:07Speaker 2: LinkedIn and interesting to note that during the height of
- 52:11Speaker 2: the COVID tyranny she was working as a transformation program
- 52:18Speaker 2: director for the National Health Service and she went on
- 52:22Speaker 2: or has gone on to become immersed in transformation with
- 52:26Speaker 2: digital business services for HSBC and now works for Deloitte
- 52:32Speaker 2: as a program manager. So she is absolutely a corporate waller,
- 52:36Speaker 2: but that is not very much the image that Restore
- 52:39Speaker 2: Britain is trying to put forward. We'll just look at
- 52:43Speaker 2: the Pink Ladies on Twitter saying very specifically that they
- 52:46Speaker 2: want to protect British women. I think there's a fairly
- 52:51Speaker 2: strong undercurrent there in terms of messaging, and this has
- 52:54Speaker 2: been identified by the Byline Times, which has written in
- 52:57Speaker 2: an article saying or describing the Pinks as laundering anti
- 53:01Speaker 2: migrant views into the mainstream, which I'll go on and
- 53:07Speaker 2: sort of qualify to a certain extent, But a lot
- 53:09Speaker 2: of that revolves around the misuse of statistics that have
- 53:12Speaker 2: been generated by a so called think tank for migration,
- 53:17Speaker 2: or at least to create the impression that migration is
- 53:22Speaker 2: responsible for particular issues, especially concerning violence towards women and girls.
- 53:28Speaker 2: Now to get a better sense of the opportunism and
- 53:32Speaker 2: indeed fact that this lady in particular is happy to
- 53:38Speaker 2: hop from supporter to supporter. Here she is with Jacob
- 53:42Speaker 2: Brice Mogg, apparently, who was flavor of the week at
- 53:45Speaker 2: that point. At lo and behold she is from Epping,
- 53:49Speaker 2: posting on Twitter a photograph of the so called Lion
- 53:54Speaker 2: of Epping, who received much publicity during the protests last summer.
- 53:58Speaker 2: Another tweet with the caption we are all Epping, no
- 54:03Speaker 2: no accident. This is This is if you can't see it,
- 54:05Speaker 2: a photograph of the Union flag flying above the flag
- 54:09Speaker 2: of Israel on the same stick, and apparently that is
- 54:13Speaker 2: for her the symbol of Epping. Just in case that
- 54:17Speaker 2: wasn't clear enough. She's then tweeted that Britain does not
- 54:19Speaker 2: stand with Gaza. British people do not support terrorists. Apparently
- 54:24Speaker 2: the two are synonymous. True British patriots stand for peace, freedom,
- 54:28Speaker 2: justice and respect. That's apparently what we fought to World
- 54:32Speaker 2: wars to protect. So that's the sort of person that
- 54:35Speaker 2: she seems to be. And then we mustn't forget that
- 54:38Speaker 2: she did stand as a candidate for Reform UK. So
- 54:42Speaker 2: so far Restore in much the same way that Reform
- 54:45Speaker 2: have with all their Tory Party crosses of the line
- 54:51Speaker 2: forgive me, I can't remember the word, but defectors, that's
- 54:55Speaker 2: the one Restore looking similar and the individual and indeed
- 55:01Speaker 2: collective level, they're now transmitting a message that is suggestive
- 55:09Speaker 2: of jingoistic opportunism without any substance by means of a
- 55:14Speaker 2: clear or credible message. And I think this is just
- 55:17Speaker 2: something that people need to be aware of, is exactly
- 55:21Speaker 2: who are these people and what is it they are
- 55:24Speaker 2: using in order to garner support, And of course migration
- 55:28Speaker 2: is absolutely at the heart of this. And so I
- 55:30Speaker 2: just finished by reminding you that that absolutely has been
- 55:33Speaker 2: manipulated both ways, and of course we have the Labor
- 55:36Speaker 2: Together Britcard proposal effectively from the other end of the
- 55:40Speaker 2: apparent spectrum last year.
- 55:45Speaker 1: Thank you, Charles. Okay, let's move on then to we
- 55:49Speaker 1: can't let the program end without mentioning Peter Mandelson. Of course,
- 55:53Speaker 1: because as everyone knows, on Monday, the met Police arrested
- 55:57Speaker 1: Mandelsson aren't suspicion of misconduct in public office. So Mandelson
- 56:01Speaker 1: joins Andrew in being suspected of improperly passing UK government
- 56:07Speaker 1: information to Epstein. Following soul in the emails and the
- 56:12Speaker 1: various other document releases, Mandleson is supposed to have forwarded
- 56:16Speaker 1: Epstein a memo written to Gordon Brown at the Prime
- 56:20Speaker 1: Minister at the time, that was appearing to confirm the
- 56:24Speaker 1: timing of EU Bill out before it was publicly announced.
- 56:28Speaker 1: Mandelsson's lawyers argued that his arrest was prompted by a
- 56:32Speaker 1: baseless suggestion that he was about to flee the country,
- 56:36Speaker 1: and that in fact he had agreed. The lawyer said
- 56:38Speaker 1: that he had agreed to attend a voluntary and interview
- 56:41Speaker 1: next month. He was released on bill and well we'll
- 56:46Speaker 1: see what happens on that. In the meantime, then The
- 56:49Speaker 1: Telegraph has reported the expanding fallout from the Epstein situation,
- 56:54Speaker 1: which is now gathering around the Rothschild Empire. In this case,
- 56:59Speaker 1: it's Aria. The Rothschild, CEO of the family owned Edmund
- 57:03Speaker 1: de Rothschild, Swiss private bank. So the Telegraph here saying
- 57:07Speaker 1: that the Epstein releases are showing that she corresponded dozens
- 57:13Speaker 1: of times with Epstein and arranged multiple meetings over around
- 57:16Speaker 1: five years, right up until his death, and this has
- 57:20Speaker 1: caused significant reputational damage because the disclosures contradicted They say
- 57:27Speaker 1: an earlier characterization by the bank that she'd met Epstein
- 57:31Speaker 1: only as part of her normal professional duties. Now she's
- 57:36Speaker 1: still claiming that her relationship came about purely because of
- 57:40Speaker 1: his Epstein's standing as a significant global businessman. But the
- 57:45Speaker 1: files showed that she negotiated a twenty five million dollar
- 57:50Speaker 1: consulting contract with Epstein in twenty fifteen, and her name
- 57:53Speaker 1: appears over four four hundred times in the document release
- 57:59Speaker 1: so far are I'm sure if as that the analysis
- 58:04Speaker 1: of that goes on, there's every opportunity for that number
- 58:07Speaker 1: to rise. But well, it's been a bit embarrassing and
- 58:12Speaker 1: they've had to write all their customers and beg for
- 58:14Speaker 1: their customers to stick around. Some of their customers aren't
- 58:18Speaker 1: very happy about the publicity that this brings. Charles Let's
- 58:25Speaker 1: end then with subsidies to farmers.
- 58:30Speaker 2: Indeed, as Julian Rose has always said, subsidy creates slaves,
- 58:34Speaker 2: and that is absolutely, I would say, the correct way
- 58:37Speaker 2: to look at it. However, when Emma Renalds the Environment
- 58:40Speaker 2: sectually spoke to the NFU yesterday, she was very much
- 58:44Speaker 2: trying to sell the line that the government were supporting farmers,
- 58:50Speaker 2: that food security and national security are inextricably linked. There
- 58:53Speaker 2: shouldn't be a choice between producing food or recovering or
- 58:57Speaker 2: saving nature. She also perpetuates the absolute lie that the
- 59:01Speaker 2: government has increased the threshold for agricultural property relief from
- 59:06Speaker 2: one million pounds to two and a half million pounds,
- 59:08Speaker 2: because of course it was zero. Nothing had actually changed,
- 59:11Speaker 2: so that is a that is absolutely a propaganda offering.
- 59:14Speaker 2: She produced the curious statistic that sixty five percent food
- 59:17Speaker 2: security is where we are in the United Kingdom. How
- 59:20Speaker 2: she accounts for that enormous jump was not made quite clear,
- 59:24Speaker 2: but just as an illustration of the sincerity of what
- 59:28Speaker 2: she was saying in so far as her position that
- 59:30Speaker 2: the government are going to support farmers. She said that
- 59:33Speaker 2: the environmental land management offerings were going to be produced
- 59:37Speaker 2: later that day, yesterday, which indeed they were, and I've
- 59:39Speaker 2: just pulled out of that funding for farmers, growers and
- 59:42Speaker 2: land managers, and in particular the item the line item
- 59:46Speaker 2: Farming Equipment and Technology Fund, which has thrown at it
- 59:50Speaker 2: a grand total of fifty million pounds available to farmers, growers,
- 59:55Speaker 2: foresters and their contractors. Now there are over two hundred
- 59:58Speaker 2: and nine thousand holding in England alone, so the question
- 1:00:03Speaker 2: that might be asked is fifty million pounds is that it?
- 1:00:06Speaker 2: And just as a frame of reference, I'd remind you
- 1:00:09Speaker 2: that the garden Bridge project in London, which achieved absolutely nothing.
- 1:00:16Speaker 2: Somebody drew some stuff and then made a model and
- 1:00:18Speaker 2: that cost fifty three million quid. And yet farmers are
- 1:00:22Speaker 2: being apparently sweetened with a fifty million pound offering to
- 1:00:26Speaker 2: go to all of them. So that's the state that
- 1:00:30Speaker 2: the state of the disdain with which government treats the
- 1:00:34Speaker 2: farmers that it says that it respects and wants to support. Now,
- 1:00:40Speaker 2: just to wind up vaguely related to agricultural rural matters,
- 1:00:45Speaker 2: I'm going to share a short video which I think
- 1:00:47Speaker 2: encapsulates very many of the things that we see going
- 1:00:51Speaker 2: on in the background in the United Kingdom in twenty
- 1:00:53Speaker 2: twenty six. This is how you deal with the flood. Apparently,
- 1:01:50Speaker 2: thankfully she survived to tell the tale, so I hope
- 1:01:53Speaker 2: that brings a smile.
- 1:01:55Speaker 1: Yeah, well, Charles, I'm not sure which was worse, the
- 1:01:59Speaker 1: fact that she didn't want to get out of her
- 1:02:01Speaker 1: car or the fact that the farbergate felt she needed
- 1:02:04Speaker 1: some kind of floating fluciation need. But anyway, we could
- 1:02:07Speaker 1: talk about that an extra as well. Look, we've got
- 1:02:10Speaker 1: to leave it there for today. I want to say
- 1:02:12Speaker 1: thank you very much to Vanessa and Charles for joining
- 1:02:14Speaker 1: me today and for everybody that's been watching. Stick around
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- 1:02:40Speaker 4: See them bye,