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Money, POWER, Respect with Marcus Callender · We Talk Back

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  Speaker 1: We're just two unapologetically black women with an opinion who
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  Speaker 1: talk back.
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  Speaker 2: What's up y'all?
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  Speaker 3: Thank you for tuning in for a new episode of
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  Speaker 3: We Talk Back, a show dedicated to you niggas.
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  Speaker 2: And these hoes. It's your co-host AJ Holiday. What's up team?
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  Speaker 3: Hey, girl.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, y'all. It's me, Tia Bam. I love y'all. Thank
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  Speaker 1: y'all for tuning in. AJ, how was your weekend?
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  Speaker 2: It's a me, mario. I was chilling out this weekend.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't do much. Just dinner, drinks. That's about it.
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  Speaker 1: Same. I didn't hang out till Sunday. I came outside
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  Speaker 1: a little bit, went a couple of spots, but this
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  Speaker 1: weekend was real chill.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Taking it easy because next weekend is Super Bowl Sunday.
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  Speaker 2: It's lit. It's Rihanna Bowl.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Now, I do want the Eagles to win. Me too.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like they are. They got such a good energy.
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  Speaker 4: So, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Where are you watching it?
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  Speaker 2: I want the Eagles to win. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I don't have any place in particular. I'll find someplace
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  Speaker 2: by then. I'm pretty sure.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, me too.
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  Speaker 2: A few people are going to be having some Super
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  Speaker 2: Bowl parties. I could pull up.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to go to all of them.
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  Speaker 1: I want to go get all the Super Bowl food.
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  Speaker 1: All I can have is meat and vegetables, though, and cheese.
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  Speaker 1: I can't have anything sweet or bread or rice. I
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  Speaker 1: know I fucked up last night, though. I'm out of ketosis.
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  Speaker 1: I know I am today. I'm starting back over.
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  Speaker 2: Nah, I can't do a super restrictive diet like that.
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  Speaker 2: I have tried. Jesus Christ.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, the most restrictive thing I think, and it's
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  Speaker 3: just not restrictive anymore, is just like stop eating meat.
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  Speaker 2: Like the big meats. Other than that, I'll just try.
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  Speaker 3: To cut back because a bitch need a chocolate chip
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  Speaker 3: cookie every now and then.
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  Speaker 2: All right, so let me see.
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  Speaker 3: What we got going on this week in stupid internet
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  Speaker 3: news since other week is Black History Month. And like
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  Speaker 3: Malcolm X once said, the white man will try to
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  Speaker 3: satisfy us with symbolic victories. rather than economic equity and
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  Speaker 3: real justice.
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  Speaker 1: Period.
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  Speaker 3: That's what Malcolm X once said. And here we are
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  Speaker 3: in 2023. And we got schools in New York City
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  Speaker 3: serving our children chicken and waffles and watermelons.
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  Speaker 1: I like that shit. I would have wanted that shit.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I love chicken. I love waffles. And I
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  Speaker 1: love watermelon. I would have been so happy at school
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  Speaker 1: with that meal.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but serve it every day. Serve it as a
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  Speaker 3: delicacy once a month or something.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. Why you wait till Black History Month
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  Speaker 2: to serve that to the students?
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  Speaker 1: All right. It's kind of like damned if you do,
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  Speaker 1: damned if you don't. How do you want to celebrate
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  Speaker 1: Black History?
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  Speaker 2: We want the check. I just told you what Malcolm
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  Speaker 2: X said.
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  Speaker 1: I'm talking about at an elementary school. At an elementary school.
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  Speaker 1: They probably thought it was a fun way to incorporate
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  Speaker 1: something that black people enjoy for Black History Month.
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  Speaker 3: You are assuming that all black people enjoy... I don't
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  Speaker 3: eat chicken. I don't eat fried chicken. When I get
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  Speaker 3: the waffles... I might get fried shrimp on the side.
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  Speaker 3: White people eat that shit too.
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  Speaker 2: What are we talking about?
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  Speaker 1: They're going to eat their own Black History Month on
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  Speaker 1: the first day of school with everybody else.
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  Speaker 3: And watermelon, and I wish people would go look into
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  Speaker 3: the history as to why Black people are associated with watermelon.
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  Speaker 3: It really wasn't because we just enjoy watermelon. That was
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  Speaker 3: one of our main crops, especially in the South. It
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  Speaker 3: made Black people a lot of money selling watermelon. And
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  Speaker 3: that would include selling watermelon.
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  Speaker 2: To white people.
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  Speaker 3: Everybody likes a nice cold watermelon slice on a goddamn
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  Speaker 3: Sunday when it's hot outside.
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  Speaker 2: That should not be.
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  Speaker 1: Like mutually exclusive. So I would have been so happy
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  Speaker 1: to have it at school, though. I would have been
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  Speaker 1: so happy.
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  Speaker 3: All right, so y'all, New York school apologizes for serving watermelon, chicken,
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  Speaker 3: and waffles on the first day of Black History Month
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  Speaker 3: after complaints.
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  Speaker 2: It reinforced negative sentiment.
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  Speaker 3: A food vendor issued an apology after the lunch they
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  Speaker 3: gave students at NAC Middle School on the first day
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  Speaker 3: of Black History Month was deemed insensitive.
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  Speaker 4: I agree.
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  Speaker 3: Lunch of chicken and waffles with watermelon for dessert, which
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  Speaker 3: a student claimed reinforced negative African-American stereotypes. A student, a
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  Speaker 3: middle school student had to correct adults.
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  Speaker 1: Man, fuck that. I want that chicken and waffles.
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  Speaker 4: You stupid.
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  Speaker 3: Then you got down in Miami. Down in Miami, they
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  Speaker 3: decorated a police car.
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  Speaker 4: Okay?
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  Speaker 1: Now that was just stupid.
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  Speaker 2: Now that's stupid, but the chicken and waffles ain't stupid.
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  Speaker 1: Delicious is what chicken and waffles is.
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  Speaker 3: So Florida State Representative Dottie Joseph says that the Miami
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  Speaker 3: police car misses the mark on celebrating Black History Month
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  Speaker 3: by highlighting the wrong continent.
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  Speaker 1: They put the wrong continent on the goddamn shit? Now see,
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  Speaker 1: that's stupid.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, we need money.
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  Speaker 3: We don't need, even with Juneteenth, I'm trying to figure
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  Speaker 3: out who, even though Juneteenth is important, Juneteenth was mainly
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  Speaker 3: down in Texas.
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  Speaker 4: Right?
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  Speaker 2: Because there were black people down there who didn't know
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  Speaker 2: they were free.
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  Speaker 3: But there's a lot of black people in the South
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  Speaker 3: period that chose to remain on plantations because they didn't
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  Speaker 3: know what to do next after being freed. But to
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  Speaker 3: make that a national holiday, I don't know who wanted that.
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  Speaker 3: I would prefer reparations. So they keep giving us these
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  Speaker 3: symbols as opposed to giving us real.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I like celebrating Juneteenth, but I agree. We want
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  Speaker 1: the money and the holiday shit. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: It's just all, it's all some bullshit. You know, every
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  Speaker 3: other group of people, you got the Holocaust. You even have,
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  Speaker 3: and we talked about this last year during the pandemic,
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  Speaker 3: how the Asian community, they got all these monies in
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  Speaker 3: the COVID-19 hate crime bill.
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  Speaker 2: We get nothing. We never get anything. We just got
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  Speaker 2: the anti-lynching bill passed. Emmett Till anti-lynching bill passed. Either
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  Speaker 2: it was last year or 2021.
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  Speaker 3: It's not, we need some real life economic advancement at
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  Speaker 3: this point.
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  Speaker 2: And they ain't trying to give it to us. So
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  Speaker 2: what's next? I say force. But anyway, next.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, because Emmett Till died in 1955.
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  Speaker 3: Very long time ago. In our lifetime, we're just now
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  Speaker 3: seeing an anti-lynching bill.
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  Speaker 4: Why?
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  Speaker 2: Because black people are still being lynched in 2023. That's
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  Speaker 2: a fact.
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  Speaker 5: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 4: Yep.
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  Speaker 2: Happy Black History Month, you guys.
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  Speaker 1: What else happened?
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  Speaker 2: You had the Grammys this weekend. Had the Grammys.
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  Speaker 1: I missed it. I was out eating and frolicking in
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  Speaker 1: the city.
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  Speaker 2: I don't ever watch it anyway.
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  Speaker 3: I'll catch the little clips and highlights online, but it's
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  Speaker 3: not something like, I got to see the Grammys. That
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  Speaker 3: should be looking boring as hell. But I watched some
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  Speaker 3: people that I knew who went. I watched their stories
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  Speaker 3: and shit like that.
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  Speaker 2: That's about it.
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  Speaker 1: Are you going to do our baddie of the week
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  Speaker 1: for Black History Month?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, might as well. Why are we talking about the Grammys?
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  Speaker 3: So listen, the baddie of the week this week goes
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  Speaker 3: to Viola Davis. Viola Davis joins only 17 other people
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  Speaker 3: who have won an Emmy, a Grammy, an Oscar, and
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  Speaker 3: a Tony, completing the E-Goat feature. And she did a
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  Speaker 3: speech yesterday at the Grammys.
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  Speaker 1: Beautiful, beautiful, beautiful.
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  Speaker 3: She said, the only thing I could think to do
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  Speaker 3: was to go back to the beginning of my story
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  Speaker 3: because I think that once you tell your story over
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  Speaker 3: and over again.
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  Speaker 2: You start to hear it and you start to think, okay,
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  Speaker 2: how did I get here? It's always the journey, right?
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  Speaker 2: People always think it's like the end goal. It's the
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  Speaker 2: actual journey to get to where you're going that matters.
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  Speaker 1: That's most important.
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  Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely. Congratulations, Viola Davis. You are the baddie of the week.
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  Speaker 1: We salute you, girl.
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  Speaker 3: A baddie who talks back, period. So I want to
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  Speaker 3: talk about this balloon, Tammy, that was floating over the
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  Speaker 3: United States for about a week, apparently, and it was
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  Speaker 3: just shot down.
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  Speaker 2: When was that, Friday?
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  Speaker 1: Yes. What took them so long to shoot the damn
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  Speaker 1: thing down is what I need to know.
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  Speaker 3: China said, look, China got rebuttal after they shot that
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  Speaker 3: balloon down.
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  Speaker 2: China said it's cool when they do it. It's a
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  Speaker 2: problem when I do it. Fuck them. Fuck them.
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  Speaker 3: China says it reserves the right to deal with similar
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  Speaker 3: situations after US jets shoot down suspected spy balloon. The
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  Speaker 3: thing is, I don't believe that the balloon was a
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  Speaker 3: spy balloon. China can spy on us in so many
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  Speaker 3: other ways, which they do, a.k.a.
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  Speaker 1: TikTok. TikTok.
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  Speaker 3: And all these other things, devices are made in China.
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  Speaker 3: Everything we deal with right now is made in China.
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  Speaker 3: So if China wanted to spy on us, they would
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  Speaker 3: not have to put a balloon in the air. That
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  Speaker 3: was symbolism is what that was like.
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  Speaker 2: Play with us.
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  Speaker 3: We pulling up. That's how I felt about the balloon
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  Speaker 3: in the air. It was just symbolism.
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  Speaker 1: Symbolism for what?
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  Speaker 2: We can pull up. We will pull up.
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  Speaker 3: That's what it looked like to me. Because we know
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  Speaker 3: if they really want to spy on us, they can
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  Speaker 3: do that in many other ways.
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  Speaker 2: And they do do it. They have all of our information.
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  Speaker 1: Well, let's go send a balloon over there.
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  Speaker 2: But that's what they're saying. Since we're having a party. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: obviously this is nothing abnormal.
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  Speaker 3: Obviously this is stuff that maybe the United States has
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  Speaker 3: done in the past too.
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  Speaker 2: Little threatening, little reminders that we'll pull up. It's symbolism.
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  Speaker 3: So what China is saying, okay, y'all shut our shit down.
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  Speaker 3: They reserve the right to do that next time y'all
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  Speaker 3: pull up on their territory.
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  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want no smoke with China, though. I ain't
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  Speaker 1: going to lie.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's inevitable at this point. Their military is huge.
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  Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 2: They're gearing up to... I saw an article. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know how true it is.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't do any deep research, but they're gearing up
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  Speaker 3: to invade Taiwan by 2027.
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  Speaker 4: I saw that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. And that ain't got nothing to do with us.
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  Speaker 1: Mind our business.
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  Speaker 3: Well, we can't mind our business because the United Nations
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  Speaker 3: and stuff like that. So just like we in Ukraine
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  Speaker 3: right now, sending more weapons and more tanks and shit
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  Speaker 3: like that over there. United States don't mind our business.
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  Speaker 3: And then they be funding both sides of the war.
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  Speaker 3: So that's like me, you fighting with somebody else. I'm
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  Speaker 3: going to give you money and empower them.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, at the same time. What's the Swiss? That's who
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  Speaker 1: we need to be like. The Swiss don't mind.
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  Speaker 2: The Swiss run shit, though.
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  Speaker 1: They mind they fucking business.
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  Speaker 3: All the fucked up things you can think of starts
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  Speaker 3: in Switzerland, for sure. You know how people be like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: we're going to put it in a Swiss bank? That's
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  Speaker 3: where all the secrets are at in Switzerland.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but they don't fuck with nobody. They don't get
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  Speaker 1: in nobody's shit.
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  Speaker 3: Not publicly, but they hands being everything is what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 3: Their hands literally be in everything. In history, Switzerland has
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  Speaker 3: something to do with every fucking thing.
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  Speaker 1: I like to say when people are like, what you think?
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm like the Swiss. I have no opinion
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  Speaker 1: on that shit.
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  Speaker 3: But you starting shit behind the fucking seas, bitch. Starting shit. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it's wild, man. It's a wild time. And I just
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  Speaker 3: think that we may see war in our lifetime.
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  Speaker 4: We may.
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  Speaker 1: Another one.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, on our soil is what I'm talking about.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, on American soil? That'd be scary.
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  Speaker 2: On American soil.
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  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 2: I think so.
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  Speaker 1: You know, and what makes me scared about that balloon
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  Speaker 1: being over, you know, Charlotte and South Carolina, you know,
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  Speaker 1: Charlotte is the number two banking hub in the United States.
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  Speaker 1: Myrtle Beach?
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  Speaker 2: Think about that, how close Charleston is. We have a
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  Speaker 2: naval base.
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  Speaker 1: Here, Air Force base. Fort Bragg, Fort Jackson, all the
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  Speaker 1: bases on Charleston and the banking hub. Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they know what they're doing.
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  Speaker 1: Let me move to Jamaica. That's where I need to go.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why I want citizenship in another country. Gonna
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  Speaker 3: be handing that shit out, but I really want to
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  Speaker 3: go to Barbados. I want citizenship in Barbados.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're going to have to get you one of
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  Speaker 1: them in.
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  Speaker 2: A little beige and a little ting.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, man.
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  Speaker 1: A little ting ting.
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  Speaker 4: Alright, y'all.
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  Speaker 1: We got someone really interesting and very special on our show.
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  Speaker 1: We are going to talk Wu-Tang Clan ain't nothing to
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  Speaker 1: fuck with. Remember that?
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  Speaker 2: Cream, get the money.
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  Speaker 3: Dollar, dollar bill, y'all.
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  Speaker 1: It don't go like that.
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  Speaker 2: Doesn't do.
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  Speaker 1: Not all in my house. All right, we'll be right back, y'all.
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  Speaker 2: All right, y'all.
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  Speaker 3: So listen, today's guest has starred in some of your
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  Speaker 3: favorite films and television series like The Breaks, Power... And
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  Speaker 3: he's currently starring on Hulu's drama series Wu-Tang, an American saga.
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  Speaker 2: Ray Ray. I mean, Marcus Callender. Welcome to We Talk Back.
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  Speaker 2: What's up, nigga?
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  Speaker 4: What up?
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  Speaker 5: What up?
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  Speaker 4: What up? Hey, Marcus.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you for joining us.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you. Thank you for having me. Yes. All right.
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  Speaker 1: I just got to say this.
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  Speaker 4: All right.
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  Speaker 1: There's characters in movies and shows that when you see
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  Speaker 1: them in real life, you're going to be like, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: We got smoked because of what you did on that show, right?
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: And I always felt like if I ever saw you,
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  Speaker 1: I was going to have to throw hands because you're
• 14:05
  Speaker 1: killing Raina, man. How you going to kill the baby?
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  Speaker 4: Oh, I mean, she had it coming. She knew too much.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 4: She had to go. She had to go.
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  Speaker 1: Do you have like weirdos like me come up to
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  Speaker 1: you and be mad at you for real? Like sometimes
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  Speaker 1: people can't separate TV from real life.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Honestly, it happens quite often. Honestly, you
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  Speaker 4: know what I mean?
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  Speaker 5: Like they'll, you know, cause first, cause I think people had,
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  Speaker 5: you know, they kind of have this image in their
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  Speaker 5: head as to like who I am. So sometimes when
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  Speaker 5: they see me in person, You know, because I'm just me.
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  Speaker 4: I'm just being regular. So it kind of throws them off.
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  Speaker 5: Because in their head, they're like, wait, you're supposed to
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  Speaker 5: be this mean motherfucker that I don't like.
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  Speaker 1: Kill kids.
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  Speaker 4: Right, exactly. But then when they meet me, it's like, no,
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  Speaker 4: I'm pretty cool. I'm pretty chill. You know what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 4: So it's like, it's that initial like, oh, shit, that's you. Yo,
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  Speaker 4: why'd you have to kill that girl? Right.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly.
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  Speaker 5: If I had a dollar for every time somebody asked
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  Speaker 5: me why I had to kill that girl, man.
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  Speaker 4: How did it enjoy.
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  Speaker 1: You on the internet? The internets.
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  Speaker 2: How crazy was the internets going on you?
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  Speaker 4: You know, stupid shit. I don't remember.
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  Speaker 5: That was like years ago, but there was definitely like
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  Speaker 5: funny memes and a lot of like people under my
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  Speaker 5: comments like.
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  Speaker 4: Yo, I'm going to get you like if I ever
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  Speaker 4: see you out. You know what I'm saying? All right.
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  Speaker 1: So I took acting classes a few years back and
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  Speaker 1: I had to do like this scene where I had
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  Speaker 1: to like get in my emotions, right? And get sad.
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  Speaker 1: So I could do the scene and I couldn't get
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  Speaker 1: out of that sadness. Like after it was over, I
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  Speaker 1: went home and I was sad all day. And I
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  Speaker 1: was like, damn, like I'm holding onto that. Do you like,
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: do you walk away from it? Just like the scene
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: is over. You just killed a kid. You know, do
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: you just walk like, Oh, let's go have Starbucks now.
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: Or how does that work?
• 15:57
  Speaker 5: I mean, uh, I remember that that night we shot
• 16:01
  Speaker 5: that scene. It was, it was probably like, It was
• 16:04
  Speaker 5: like three, four in the morning, honestly, when we shot
• 16:06
  Speaker 5: that scene in particular. And it was super cold outside.
• 16:12
  Speaker 5: But for me, yeah, I don't really take it home
• 16:15
  Speaker 5: like that. Once they yell cut, I can let it go.
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? You're a real thespian, right?
• 16:21
  Speaker 4: Well, yeah. But then you got some.
• 16:23
  Speaker 5: No offense, but you got some actors that like, oh,
• 16:26
  Speaker 5: I need to eat, breathe, and sleep the role, which
• 16:28
  Speaker 5: is cool, but... you know, this is called acting for
• 16:33
  Speaker 5: a reason, right? You know what I'm saying? So, you know,
• 16:36
  Speaker 5: now that's not to say, like, I don't, you know,
• 16:39
  Speaker 5: do my best to, like, you know, internalize things or
• 16:42
  Speaker 5: just kind of make these characters real for myself.
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying?
• 16:47
  Speaker 5: Like, one of my, a strong philosophy of mine is that, honestly,
• 16:51
  Speaker 5: I feel like every character lives somewhere inside you. What
• 16:56
  Speaker 5: makes it different is that, you know, like, no one
• 17:00
  Speaker 5: in the world is like you.
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying?
• 17:02
  Speaker 5: So my version of Ray Ray might be different from, say,
• 17:05
  Speaker 5: your version of Ray.
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: Like, you know what I'm saying?
• 17:07
  Speaker 5: So for me, I always look at it as, okay,
• 17:10
  Speaker 5: so what, how would I approach this situation? Or, like, what,
• 17:14
  Speaker 5: how can I make this scenario real for myself, which
• 17:18
  Speaker 5: is going to make it unique and specific?
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying?
• 17:23
  Speaker 5: Because we don't want to, like, generalize things because then,
• 17:26
  Speaker 5: you know, there's nothing interesting about that. So for me, like,
• 17:30
  Speaker 5: you know, working on that character was actually kind of
• 17:34
  Speaker 5: fun to tap into that evil.
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: I guess. You know, that dark side.
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: I like the villain.
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying? Yeah, it was a lot
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: of fun.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: It was fun.
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: That's crazy.
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: I killed a little girl. It was kind of fun, though.
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: It was kind of fun.
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: Like, I know you wanted to touch Tariq's ass, right?
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: See, he was the one that was really supposed to
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: get it. You know what I'm saying? Like, he was
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: really the one. But, you know, his sister got in
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: the way. She knew too much. Shame.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: Oh, goodness. All right, so I went on social media,
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: and you don't post a lot. You don't post a
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: lot at all. You're like me. I hate, I honestly
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: hate having, I feel like now I have to share
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: my life more because of this podcast, but it's not
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: something I enjoy. Are you similar in that way, or
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: why are you so, like, not? Okay.
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 18:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think for me, I mean, like, I'm just
• 18:32
  Speaker 5: kind of a, I'm just pretty much a private person
• 18:36
  Speaker 5: just in general. But I actually am on, like, a
• 18:41
  Speaker 5: similar path. Like, I did tell myself, like, okay, like,
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: maybe I should start posting more.
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: Be more social.
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: You know, be more sociable. I mean, I ain't about
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: to be brand new with it. You know what I'm saying?
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: I'm going to still be me. Right. But I might just,
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: you know, let you in a little more.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying?
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: You know, what you need, you know, cause, cause I
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: get it.
• 19:03
  Speaker 5: You know, some people, you know, they look at, you know,
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: they look at people on, you know, the platform that
• 19:09
  Speaker 5: I'm on and doing what I'm doing, you know, for
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: some people it's inspiration.
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: And for some people it's, you.
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: Know, for them, it's how, you know, cause I get
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: a lot of questions about like, yo bro, like how'd
• 19:19
  Speaker 5: you get into the industry or like, how'd you get
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: on the show and things of that nature. So I
• 19:24
  Speaker 5: know that, you know, probably be good to, Just give
• 19:27
  Speaker 5: a little insight as to what I be doing.
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: Nothing crazy, though. You know what I'm saying? Nothing crazy.
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: For those who are my close friends.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: Add me.
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: Add me to this. They know what's going on.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: Let me see that.
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm notorious for my close friend activities. I'm a
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: little notorious for that.
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: Me and there, my boy. The green circle stories. The
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: green circle stories. Y'all know what's good.
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know what time it is.
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: Because, you know, I travel a lot. You know what
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: I'm saying? Things happen in different cities.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: Acting like a rapper. You be out here acting like
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: a rapper. <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL>.
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: <HAL> Nah, I'm still low key with it a little bit.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: Distant Loving. That's like a Marvin Gaye song, Distant Lover.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: Is that how you came up with that?
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: There you go. Yeah.
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: So I'm a big Marvin Gaye fan. Marvin Gaye is
• 20:19
  Speaker 5: my favorite artist of all time. I love Marvin Gaye.
• 20:24
  Speaker 5: Everything Marvin, I fuck with. So it was just a
• 20:28
  Speaker 5: play on the song Distant Loving.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: Okay. You got a girl somewhere distant.
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: It's a play on the song Distant Lover. Sorry.
• 20:35
  Speaker 5: Sorry. But if you think about it, that's literally what
• 20:39
  Speaker 5: social media is.
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: Just to love it. You know what I mean?
• 20:44
  Speaker 5: Because we're looking at pictures and videos from a distance.
• 20:48
  Speaker 5: We're not necessarily there and we're liking them.
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying? And loving it.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: Okay, hearting it.
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: So is that where it actually came from though?
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: It's a woman somewhere like Like, I love you, bitch,
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: but for my dinner. Hey, NLA.
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: You know, look, I don't know. I don't know. You know, baby,
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: you know.
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: Right, look, so since we're here, since we're here, I
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: got a question about one of your relationships because I
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: watched one of your interviews on YouTube. It was mind
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: your business or something shit like that.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: Mind your business. It was you and two other guys.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: Y'all was outside. I heard sirens, fire trucks. I don't
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: know what the fuck. Oh.
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: Was it in LA? Those are my guys. Yes, I
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: was in LA. Those are my guys. Those are my guys.
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: Okay, so you and your guys.
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: You were talking about how you had an old lady
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: in New York that was supposed to move with you
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: when you picked up and moved to LA, but you
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: got the check and you dipped out on her ass.
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: Dang.
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: Ain't no hold up, nigga.
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: Wait, hold on. Hold on a second.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: Hold on a second.
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: Hold on a second. Hold on a second. Wait, wait.
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: Let me gather my thoughts here for a second.
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: Wait, wait, wait.
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: So I mentioned what now? What I do?
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: All right. So, right?
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: This is after you shot Raina.
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: Wait, wait, wait. Just for the people, just so the
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: people know.
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: That's a podcast where they give, you drink as the
• 22:29
  Speaker 5: interview goes.
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: Just so you know. So, you know what I'm saying?
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: I might have got a little loose with the tongue.
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: So, you got to remind me.
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: If you was my ex-nigga, I was trying to smack
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: your ass after that interview.
• 22:40
  Speaker 5: Why?
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: Okay, let's just be clear.
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: Okay, so what'd I say now?
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: So he was staying in town. Let me tell you
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: what this nigga was saying. So this nigga was saying....
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: He basically said, okay, after Raina, after he shot Raina,
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: checks got kind of funny.
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: A little bit.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: Nigga got an epiphany. Talked to his manager. Went to L.A.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: for a little bit.
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: For a month.
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: And his old lady was holding her apartment down. But
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: he only knew her for about three months.
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: But she had the house holding her apartment down. He
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: goes back to New York. Figured the checkout. All of
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: a sudden, relationship went down the fucking drain. He moves
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: to LA without his old lady.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: And he smashed a bitch. And he smashed a bitch
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: that she been asking him about.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: Damn, Marcus.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: Damn, you doing it like that. Hungry, greedy-ass Marcus.
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: Marcus.
• 23:41
  Speaker 5: See, this is why I don't share shit on social media.
• 23:43
  Speaker 5: You see what I'm saying? This is why I don't
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: let y'all niggas know shit. Because it's shit like this.
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: Okay. Let me explain myself. You fucked up the story
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: a little bit. You made it seem like I'm some
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: bad person. That's what women do, but it's the gist
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: of it.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: No, we don't think you're a bad person.
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: Okay, so this is what happened. This is what happened.
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: What happened, Mark?
• 24:05
  Speaker 5: Yes, I was in a relationship. This was years ago,
• 24:08
  Speaker 5: my y'all. This was a long time ago.
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: It was 2018. Right before the pandemic.
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Right before the pandemic.
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: That was in like 2000 and.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: Raina ain't been dead that long now.
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: No, no, no. That was like in 2016. Okay. That
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: was in like 2016. Okay. That was in like 2016.
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: Let me Google Wayne. No, no, no, no. I'm bugging.
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: I'm bugging. Like 2017.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: It's 2018.
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: Go ahead. So anywho, yes, I was in a relationship.
• 24:43
  Speaker 5: But me shooting Reignor, the whole power situation, that wasn't
• 24:48
  Speaker 5: the reason we broke up. The relationship was on the
• 24:51
  Speaker 5: outskirts anyway. We had talked about moving to LA together,
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: but I knew in my heart of heart that that
• 24:57
  Speaker 5: was a trip that I needed to do solo dolo.
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: And I think I was right about that. It paid off.
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: But yeah, unfortunately, our relationship did not last. And yes,
• 25:10
  Speaker 5: it just so happened to be around the time.
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: He got the bag.
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: When the whole Raina shit was going on. So, you know,
• 25:18
  Speaker 5: everything happens for a reason.
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: Right. You know what I mean? I mean, you know,
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: her and I, we don't talk anymore, but I'm sure
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: she's great. I'm sure she's great. She's lovely. I'm sure
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: she's great. Y'all funny as shit.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: So I saw that you were writing a play called Spades.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: How's that going?
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: I already wrote it.
• 25:44
  Speaker 5: I'm actually in the process of trying to get it produced,
• 25:48
  Speaker 5: but I want to produce it independently because along with
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: putting up this play, I'm also really trying to curate
• 26:00
  Speaker 5: this idea of what it means for us as black
• 26:05
  Speaker 5: people to go to the theater right because I feel
• 26:08
  Speaker 5: like say I feel like theater kind of has a
• 26:10
  Speaker 5: bad rep when it comes to like us going to
• 26:14
  Speaker 5: the theater because you know you go to Broadway shows
• 26:16
  Speaker 5: it's predominantly white folks in the audience even if you
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: do off Broadway it's predominantly white folks in the audience
• 26:22
  Speaker 5: but I also think a large part of that has
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: to do with like there's just shows that's just ain't
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: for us you know what I'm saying either it's not
• 26:30
  Speaker 5: for us or it's a lot of like If it
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: is written by a black person, a lot of the time,
• 26:36
  Speaker 5: the plays that are written by black people that get
• 26:39
  Speaker 5: produced on a scale like that, it's like trauma-related. Which,
• 26:44
  Speaker 5: in my opinion, white folks love to go to the
• 26:46
  Speaker 5: theater and watch black folks in trauma.
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: You know what I mean?
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: They love to leave the theater crying.
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: Exactly. Crying boo-hoo about, oh, no. You know what I'm saying?
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: Woe is me. I say fuck all of that. You
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: know what I mean? We live, breathe... That's every day.
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: So for me, yo, just tell me a story. What
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: happened today? You know what I'm saying? Tell me a story.
• 27:11
  Speaker 5: And with Spades, so basically Spades is about a group
• 27:14
  Speaker 5: of friends, four friends that, well, three of them, they
• 27:19
  Speaker 5: all went to college together, real close friends. They get
• 27:23
  Speaker 5: together on a Friday night for a game of Spades, right?
• 27:26
  Speaker 5: We love us some Spades. Y'all play Spades?
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 27:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I do. Okay, cool.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: I'll bust your ass in the game of spades.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: I need to know the nigga rules before.
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: We start, though. Exactly.
• 27:38
  Speaker 5: So that's the energy. That's the energy of the play, right?
• 27:41
  Speaker 5: So it's a Friday night. Takes place in Harlem. It
• 27:43
  Speaker 5: actually takes place in 2013. So it's a period piece,
• 27:47
  Speaker 5: I guess.
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: Takes place in Harlem. Friday night.
• 27:50
  Speaker 5: They getting together for a game of spades. What's different
• 27:53
  Speaker 5: about tonight is that Corey just lost her virginity to
• 27:58
  Speaker 5: another character named Andre.
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: Three days prior to this space game.
• 28:03
  Speaker 5: Now, they're all 23 years old, fresh out of college,
• 28:07
  Speaker 5: figuring it out. They're actors, artists. They just live in
• 28:11
  Speaker 5: that New York City life trying to figure it out, right?
• 28:14
  Speaker 5: So Corey just lost her virginity three days prior to Andre.
• 28:18
  Speaker 5: This is the first time she's seen this nigga since.
• 28:20
  Speaker 5: They haven't really spoken. Andre's been kind of ducking and
• 28:23
  Speaker 5: dodging her. He's been on some nigga shit. So now,
• 28:27
  Speaker 5: they're getting together for this space game. On top of that,
• 28:30
  Speaker 5: another character named Gil, whose house they're at, this nigga
• 28:34
  Speaker 5: done went and invited one of his coworkers for this
• 28:37
  Speaker 5: game of Spades. Now, you know how it is with
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: a new Spades partner.
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: I don't know you like that. I don't trust you.
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: You better not renege. Right, you better not renege.
• 28:49
  Speaker 5: So now you got a new Spades partner, but not
• 28:52
  Speaker 5: only is she a new Spades partner, shorty don't know
• 28:54
  Speaker 5: how to play. She said she did. But she don't
• 28:57
  Speaker 5: really know how to play. On top of that, she's
• 28:59
  Speaker 5: way older than the three of them. She about in
• 29:01
  Speaker 5: her 30s. Hanging out with these 20-something-year-olds. On top of that,
• 29:07
  Speaker 5: her and Andre got a little.
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: Something, something, something. Oh, shit. Here comes the bullshit. So
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: that's what the play is about.
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: Oh, that sounds good.
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: Oh, it's good. I want to see it. So the
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: idea is, so the idea is.
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: Like, not only do I want to put this play up,
• 29:24
  Speaker 5: because I just think it'll be I just think people
• 29:27
  Speaker 5: will really enjoy it.
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: It's also, it's what I'm trying to curate for the night.
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: You know what I mean? Like, it'll be dope.
• 29:33
  Speaker 5: Like you come in and like, yo, maybe, you know,
• 29:36
  Speaker 5: before the show starts, like there's a little, there's, you know, some,
• 29:40
  Speaker 5: tables in the lobby. Yo, get a little space gate,
• 29:42
  Speaker 5: go and get the camaraderie, go get a drink. I
• 29:44
  Speaker 5: love to get a space that's smoking friendly. Yo, sit down,
• 29:48
  Speaker 5: watch a place, walk one up. You know what I'm saying?
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: I want that call and response vibe. You know what
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: I'm saying?
• 29:54
  Speaker 5: Cause that's, that's, I want the audience to feel like
• 29:56
  Speaker 5: they're in the living room with them at this space gate.
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: Cause shit's getting crazy.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know, sometimes Spade's table can get dangerous, though.
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: It can. Exactly.
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: Security at the door.
• 30:06
  Speaker 5: So you already got the energy of what a Spade's
• 30:11
  Speaker 5: game brings on top of the layers of like, wait, Corey.
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: Ain't seen this nigga since. We got some talking to do.
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: Why is Kory, 23, just losing her virginity and just
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: gave it away so easy.
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: Oh, that comes up. You got to watch the first time.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why I'm good.
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: That nigga probably been pressing her since they was 18.
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: Just to get the pussy to treat her bad. And
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: she finally gave it to her.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: And then here come Andre.
• 30:36
  Speaker 5: But you know how it is when you young, man.
• 30:39
  Speaker 5: You know, sometimes you, you know. So, yeah. Hungry Andre.
• 30:47
  Speaker 5: I think it'll be dope. So, it actually took me
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: five years to write it. Um, so now that it's written,
• 30:54
  Speaker 5: it's just, it's, um, it's the process of, of getting
• 30:57
  Speaker 5: it produced, which is, has been a long process, but
• 31:01
  Speaker 5: at the end of the day, I'm trying, I want
• 31:02
  Speaker 5: to do it right. Um, I'm also going to direct
• 31:04
  Speaker 5: it myself too. So that'll be interesting.
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: So you're a trained thespian. So do you prefer theater or,
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: or screen or, you know.
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: Movie theaters?
• 31:14
  Speaker 5: Um, uh, I think both are really good, but you know, the, the,
• 31:22
  Speaker 5: Theater always wins for me, man.
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: It's nothing like it. You know what I'm saying?
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: That's what everybody says.
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: Well, because it's live. And it's fresh every night. And
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: it's just.
• 31:33
  Speaker 5: It keeps you on your toes. To me, that's where
• 31:36
  Speaker 5: you learn how to act. If you don't know how
• 31:38
  Speaker 5: to do it on stage, I can't fuck with you.
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: No offense.
• 31:40
  Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying? My favorite actors know how
• 31:44
  Speaker 5: to do it on screen and on the stage.
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: Just as good. There's no, oh, they're better on screen. Because... No,
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: it's not that on-screen acting is bad.
• 31:54
  Speaker 5: It's actually like, you know, if you can master that
• 31:58
  Speaker 5: as well, it's a really beautiful craft.
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: But, you know, in my opinion, you should be able
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: to do both.
• 32:04
  Speaker 5: You should be able to know how to act for
• 32:06
  Speaker 5: the camera and then turn around and go do a
• 32:10
  Speaker 5: show eight times.
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: Turn around and go do a show eight shows a week.
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: You know?
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: So how old were you when you knew... Yeah, how
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: old were you when you knew you wanted to be
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: an actor? Was it something you always grew up with?
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: I was 16 years old.
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: I was 16.
• 32:27
  Speaker 5: I mean, when I think back about just how I
• 32:30
  Speaker 5: was as a kid, I was always naturally a performer.
• 32:33
  Speaker 5: I was one of those kids where when I was
• 32:35
  Speaker 5: at home waiting for my mom to come back from work,
• 32:38
  Speaker 5: I had imaginary friends. I would make up little shows.
• 32:43
  Speaker 5: I had this little wooden... this little wooden thing that
• 32:49
  Speaker 5: I would stand up on to brush my teeth. And like,
• 32:52
  Speaker 5: I would use it like that would be my little
• 32:54
  Speaker 5: platform and shit. But I didn't really get into it
• 32:57
  Speaker 5: till I was 16. I had a teacher named Ms.
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: Ballman, shout out to Ms.
• 33:00
  Speaker 5: Ballman, who basically, you know, recognized the gift that I had.
• 33:06
  Speaker 5: And it just so happened that they were auditioning Raising
• 33:10
  Speaker 5: in the Sun at my school.
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: And I auditioned for it.
• 33:15
  Speaker 5: I got the lead, and I've been acting literally ever
• 33:18
  Speaker 5: since then.
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: Nice. I caught the bug, as they say.
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: You spoke of your mother, and I saw that you
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: were named after Marcus Garvey.
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah. How'd you know that?
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: I did some research.
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: I was just digging.
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, yeah.
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: You know what? I think I posted it. I think
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: I posted that. I might have posted that, but yeah,
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: that's true. Yeah. So.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: Are your parents very politically inclined? Is there any organization
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: that you.
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: Black Panthers?
• 33:51
  Speaker 5: I wouldn't say that. So Marcus Garvey is Jamaican. My
• 33:56
  Speaker 5: dad is Jamaican. But also, if you don't know about
• 34:01
  Speaker 5: Marcus Garvey, he's definitely worth doing.
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: The research on.
• 34:04
  Speaker 5: Very powerful leader back in the day. He started something
• 34:08
  Speaker 5: in Harlem called.
• 34:11
  Speaker 5: They call it Garveyism, and he had people that followed
• 34:15
  Speaker 5: his work called Garveyites. His whole ideology was, yo, they
• 34:19
  Speaker 5: don't want us here anyway, so let's go home, back
• 34:22
  Speaker 5: to Africa. That's our spot. So his whole thing was
• 34:26
  Speaker 5: about bringing black people back home. But he is Jamaican,
• 34:32
  Speaker 5: so I think that's probably what also inspired my dad
• 34:37
  Speaker 5: to name me that. I actually just came back from
• 34:39
  Speaker 5: Jamaica for vacations.
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: And what I.
• 34:42
  Speaker 5: Learned there, too, was that Bob Marley was also a
• 34:47
  Speaker 5: big admirer of Marcus Garvey. In his room, he has
• 34:52
  Speaker 5: a huge portrait of Hale Selassie, which is who he
• 34:57
  Speaker 5: prayed to, and Marcus Garvey.
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: So when I found that out, I was like, okay, word.
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: So yes, I am named after Mr. Marcus Garvey.
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: We're going to have a real quick commercial, and then
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: when we come back, we're going to get into Wu-Tang.
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: All right. One second, y'all. We'll be back.
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: I want to get.
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: Into Wu-Tang, right? So I know you're from Brooklyn, New York.
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: Were you a big Wu-Tang fan growing up?
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: Nah.
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: You ain't old enough. You're not old enough.
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no. The age difference. I know
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: you're a little younger.
• 35:33
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, I mean, they were out when I was
• 35:38
  Speaker 5: a kid, for sure. But the reason I wasn't into
• 35:41
  Speaker 5: them is when I was younger, I didn't really listen
• 35:44
  Speaker 5: to rap music like that.
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: And on top of that, I remember that album cover.
• 35:51
  Speaker 5: It always kind of looked a little scary to me. Like,
• 35:55
  Speaker 5: what's this about? You know what I'm saying?
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: Them niggas different.
• 36:01
  Speaker 5: They were different. They were different. They were very different.
• 36:05
  Speaker 5: So I never really got into them as a kid
• 36:07
  Speaker 5: at all. It wasn't until like doing the show that
• 36:11
  Speaker 5: I really started to like, I mean, even prior to
• 36:16
  Speaker 5: doing the show, like I was a big Raekwon fan,
• 36:19
  Speaker 5: like Only Built for Cuban Links is an album I
• 36:21
  Speaker 5: really enjoyed.
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: But in doing the show- The individual artist, right?
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: Right, exactly.
• 36:27
  Speaker 5: In doing the show- I got an opportunity to learn
• 36:30
  Speaker 5: a lot about them and hear a whole bunch of
• 36:32
  Speaker 5: their songs. So I'm definitely a fan. I got a
• 36:35
  Speaker 5: big old Wu-Tang tattoo on my leg now. So big
• 36:39
  Speaker 5: Wu-Tang fan.
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: I hear that. So you play the executive producer on Wu-Tang,
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: but did you have to sit down with Power himself
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: to learn his mannerisms and things and to learn how
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: he moves? I guess, how did you ultimately become Power?
• 36:57
  Speaker 5: Okay, so the beautiful thing is that, well, first of all,
• 37:02
  Speaker 5: in real life, me and Power are actually really close.
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: We definitely formed a friendship outside of the show.
• 37:11
  Speaker 5: But before I started filming it, I didn't know who
• 37:16
  Speaker 5: Power was, you know, because Power's a, you know, he's
• 37:20
  Speaker 5: a background kind of dude.
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying?
• 37:22
  Speaker 5: He's not, you know, he's not really one for flashy things.
• 37:24
  Speaker 5: Him and I are actually pretty similar, you know, because
• 37:27
  Speaker 5: you mentioned, like, I don't post nothing on social media.
• 37:30
  Speaker 5: Him and I are, like, kind of similar like that.
• 37:31
  Speaker 5: You know, we chill, you know what I'm saying? But
• 37:34
  Speaker 5: if you know, you know. So I didn't know much
• 37:39
  Speaker 5: about him. I looked up some interviews. There's about, like,
• 37:41
  Speaker 5: two or three on YouTube. It wasn't even that much.
• 37:45
  Speaker 5: But my whole time, like, going through the audition process to, like,
• 37:49
  Speaker 5: you know, my screen test, all of that, I hadn't
• 37:52
  Speaker 5: looked up anything.
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: I was just going off of what I was doing.
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: So in my head, I'm like, okay, clearly what I'm bringing,
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: they like it. This is working.
• 38:01
  Speaker 5: Because I didn't want to get in my head. I
• 38:03
  Speaker 5: didn't want to look him up and then all of
• 38:05
  Speaker 5: a sudden I'm in my head and I'm trying to
• 38:07
  Speaker 5: do him. I was just going in based off of
• 38:10
  Speaker 5: my instinct from reading the role.
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: Get the role.
• 38:16
  Speaker 5: I looked up the interviews and I'm like, oh shit, okay.
• 38:19
  Speaker 5: I kind of see why they cast me as him.
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: I get it.
• 38:23
  Speaker 5: Him and I off rip have similar... We have a
• 38:27
  Speaker 5: similar energy. You know what I mean? And then I
• 38:32
  Speaker 5: didn't actually meet him in real life until we were
• 38:34
  Speaker 5: about seven episodes in season one until I actually met him.
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: Everybody else had met who they were playing and I
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: was the only one. I'm like, yo, when am I
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: going to meet Power?
• 38:45
  Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying? But in knowing Power and
• 38:49
  Speaker 5: how he moves... It makes sense that, yeah, I was
• 38:51
  Speaker 5: the last one up. You know what I'm saying? Because
• 38:56
  Speaker 5: he got to scoop it up. You know what I'm saying?
• 39:02
  Speaker 4: As he likes to say, he had to send a
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: couple kites out. You know what I mean?
• 39:07
  Speaker 5: So he met me. We met on set, actually. He
• 39:10
  Speaker 5: actually surprised me. I didn't expect him to be there.
• 39:14
  Speaker 5: We got on the phone. Um, we got on the
• 39:17
  Speaker 5: phone cause we, we had to pause production cause it
• 39:19
  Speaker 5: was raining crazy. So we got on the phone for
• 39:21
  Speaker 5: a little bit and our first conversation, we spoke for
• 39:24
  Speaker 5: like three hours.
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Just chopping it up. You know what I mean?
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: New York. New York.
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: I know y'all were talking with y'all hands on the
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: phone and shit.
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: Oh, you know what I'm saying? That's another thing about Power.
• 39:37
  Speaker 5: Power's a big hand gesture kind of person. He'll smack
• 39:43
  Speaker 5: you on the arm a lot when he's talking. So
• 39:47
  Speaker 5: we got on the phone. We spoke for like three hours.
• 39:49
  Speaker 5: Next thing you know, he was on set. So he
• 39:52
  Speaker 5: came to my trailer and we was just chopping it up.
• 39:55
  Speaker 5: And it was like, yo, like, oh shit. Like, this
• 39:58
  Speaker 5: is power.
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: Like, this is the dude I'm playing. That's crazy. You
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: know what I'm saying? So in my head, I'm just like, yo,
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: I hope I'm doing a good job, I hope I'm... Right.
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: Did he ever say like, nah, nigga, that ain't me.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: Don't do it like that.
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: Do it a little bit more like this. Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. Never, never.
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: I think from.
• 40:17
  Speaker 5: And I'm really thankful of that because from jump, he
• 40:21
  Speaker 5: trusted me.
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: From jump, he just kind of was like, yo, do
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: your thing. You know what I'm saying? I'm going to
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: just watch.
• 40:28
  Speaker 5: Season one goes by. But in season one, you don't
• 40:31
  Speaker 5: see my character too much because.
• 40:34
  Speaker 5: You don't see my character that much. It's season two
• 40:37
  Speaker 5: when we realized.
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: Exactly. Because that's the thing.
• 40:42
  Speaker 5: In growing up, Power, he knew RZA, but his mans
• 40:51
  Speaker 5: was like Ray.
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: Ray Quans was his mans. You know what I'm saying? Exactly.
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: Ray was his mans. He knew RZA through, you know
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: what I'm saying? Also, fun fact, me.
• 41:00
  Speaker 5: And RZA went to the same elementary school in Brooklyn.
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: PS 183. Shout out to that. Ain't that some shit? Right. So, yeah,
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: growing up, Ray was more his man than RZA.
• 41:13
  Speaker 5: So that's why you don't really see Power season one
• 41:16
  Speaker 5: because it's like Power's off doing his own thing because
• 41:19
  Speaker 5: Power was already a boss from then.
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying?
• 41:24
  Speaker 5: Which is why he was able to contribute what he
• 41:26
  Speaker 5: did when you saw season two where he dropped that money.
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: He was already, he already had that.
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 41:31
  Speaker 5: Um, But it was that decision to make that crossover.
• 41:36
  Speaker 5: So before we started season two, luckily, due to the pandemic,
• 41:43
  Speaker 5: we kind of got delayed in filming and all of that.
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: And that allowed for me and Power to talk a lot.
• 41:50
  Speaker 5: We was on the phone almost every day. But not
• 41:55
  Speaker 5: even just on some like, yo, this is how I talk.
• 41:58
  Speaker 5: This is what I do. Study me. We just really
• 42:00
  Speaker 5: got along like that.
• 42:02
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying?
• 42:02
  Speaker 5: So it's just, we was always on the phone talking
• 42:05
  Speaker 5: and I got an opportunity. So he does pop-ups sometimes
• 42:09
  Speaker 5: for Wu-Wei in different cities. So I got to go
• 42:13
  Speaker 5: to a couple of them. I did, you know, he
• 42:14
  Speaker 5: did one in Miami, did one in DC, did one
• 42:17
  Speaker 5: in LA and I went to all of those. So
• 42:19
  Speaker 5: in that time too, I just got to spend a
• 42:22
  Speaker 5: lot of time with him. Just, you know, be around him,
• 42:24
  Speaker 5: see certain mannerisms and, you know, just kind of take
• 42:27
  Speaker 5: him in.
• 42:27
  Speaker 4: And study it. So, yeah, I got some time with him.
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: But it didn't feel like it was organic still. Like,
• 42:36
  Speaker 4: it didn't feel like, oh, this is, I'm only hanging
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: out with you because I'm studying a craft. You know
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: what I'm saying? We was kicking it. Right. We was
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: kicking it, shooting the shit. And just in the back
• 42:47
  Speaker 4: of my mind, I'm like, okay, word, I'll keep that.
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying? You know, even the small...
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: I'm big on details.
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: Like the tapping. Just noticing the details.
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that shit. That, how he smokes weed, how he
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: even counts money. You know what I'm saying? Because niggas
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: like that count money in a certain kind of way.
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: They don't one, two, three. It's... Right. You know what
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: I'm saying? So it's like even getting that. You know
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: what I'm saying? All of that shit. You know?
• 43:16
  Speaker 5: And I remember meeting some of his peoples after season
• 43:20
  Speaker 5: two and they were.
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: Like, yo, you got power down, Pat, yo, son. Like, yo,
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: I thought I was watching power on TV. Yo, put
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: the battery in you, son. You know what I mean?
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: I was like, yo, appreciate that. You know what I mean? So,
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: but we're not that far off from each other. You
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: know what I'm saying?
• 43:40
  Speaker 5: So it wasn't, it wasn't, I wouldn't say easy. It
• 43:44
  Speaker 5: just wasn't, it felt, It felt almost second nature a
• 43:51
  Speaker 5: little bit. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, we don't
• 43:54
  Speaker 5: dress the same.
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying?
• 43:56
  Speaker 5: And maybe we walk slightly differently, but it's like our
• 43:59
  Speaker 5: mindset is very similar. So how I approach even some
• 44:04
  Speaker 5: of the dialogue, it was just like, oh, word.
• 44:08
  Speaker 4: I understand this. I feel the same way, too. You
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: know what I mean? Yeah.
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: Were a lot of the group members on set when
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: you guys were recording RZA?
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Nah. RZA was there sometimes, but nah.
• 44:25
  Speaker 5: They were very, very, very hands off, which I thought
• 44:28
  Speaker 5: was a good idea. Because at the end of the day,
• 44:32
  Speaker 5: everyone was cast for a reason. Even if they don't
• 44:35
  Speaker 5: look like the person that they're playing, everybody at least
• 44:39
  Speaker 5: had the spirit, the vibe.
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: You know what I mean? Everybody felt like their character.
• 44:45
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying?
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: So you met RZA though, right?
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: A bunch of times, yeah.
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: So is it the guy who plays this character, Ashton Sanders,
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: is that how RZA acts in real life? Come on, man.
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: AJ called me.
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: She was like, yo, I've been watching and I'm worried
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: about that nigga.
• 45:10
  Speaker 4: Is that real? You got to ask RZA that. You
• 45:15
  Speaker 4: got to ask RZA that.
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: So you don't know how he felt about his character?
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: I know you know some inside shit. Who felt what
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: way about who played them? No? No.
• 45:24
  Speaker 4: Spill the tea. You got to ask RZA that.
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: I was like, is this real? What the fuck is happening?
• 45:33
  Speaker 4: No dig.
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: That guy is a good actor, though, Aston Sanders. So
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: I'm assuming maybe he studied RZA. It must be, right.
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: That must be how it was, if that's what he
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: was doing. Do you have any more Wu-Tang questions?
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: No, go ahead.
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: Because I have a question overall. So I hear a
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: lot of actors say that some of the characters that
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: they play help them grow as a person. Is there
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: any character that you played that really changed you just
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: by being this character?
• 46:02
  Speaker 4: That's a good question. That's a good question.
• 46:13
  Speaker 5: Has a character changed me as a person?
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: I know you ain't become a murderer.
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: We know you ain't kill nobody.
• 46:22
  Speaker 4: Hopefully.
• 46:23
  Speaker 5: That's a good question.
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: I got a theory about niggas in Hollywood now.
• 46:28
  Speaker 4: What is it?
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: Spill it while he think about his answer.
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: It's easy for them niggas.
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: I don't know why we think that people like celebrities
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: and shit are exempt from real life shit.
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: They could be serial killers.
• 46:38
  Speaker 4: That's true.
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: And nobody would ever think that they're a fucking serial killer.
• 46:42
  Speaker 4: Hell yeah. There's some crazy niggas out here.
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: I can't believe that was the theory.
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: I thought something else was about to happen.
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: Nah, it's like I just truck drive into serial killers too.
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: Shit, they can dip in and out of cities saying shit.
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: It's kind of weird that you're thinking about who's serial
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: killers though.
• 47:01
  Speaker 4: That's a good point. I would say I would say
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: I mean, I would say playing power.
• 47:14
  Speaker 5: Has definitely had a huge impact in my life because
• 47:20
  Speaker 5: just even playing that role, understanding who power is, that's
• 47:25
  Speaker 5: the thing too.
• 47:25
  Speaker 4: Power, and I.
• 47:28
  Speaker 5: Talked to him about this too, like, yo, you got
• 47:31
  Speaker 5: to tell your story because there's a lot of people
• 47:33
  Speaker 5: that need to.
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: Hear this side. You know what I mean?
• 47:36
  Speaker 5: Because you don't got to be a rapper all the time.
• 47:40
  Speaker 4: You know what I mean?
• 47:41
  Speaker 5: There's also another lane too. Where, you know, you could
• 47:44
  Speaker 5: be the person putting up the bread. You could be
• 47:46
  Speaker 5: the person that's putting shit together, starting the label, you
• 47:50
  Speaker 5: know what I mean? There's executive positions in the music
• 47:54
  Speaker 5: industry and not just performing all the time. But in
• 47:59
  Speaker 5: playing Power, one thing I love about Power in real life,
• 48:04
  Speaker 5: he's the same way.
• 48:06
  Speaker 4: Everywhere he goes.
• 48:08
  Speaker 5: He's not like, he don't switch up, he don't, change
• 48:11
  Speaker 5: how he talks, depending on who he's talking to.
• 48:14
  Speaker 4: He's the same person everywhere he goes.
• 48:17
  Speaker 5: And I just find that very admirable because, you know,
• 48:21
  Speaker 5: I think one of the most beautiful things we could
• 48:24
  Speaker 5: do as human beings is be ourselves.
• 48:27
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying? No matter what the.
• 48:29
  Speaker 5: Scenario is or who you're talking to or what the
• 48:31
  Speaker 5: situation is. And I think that, you know, that was
• 48:35
  Speaker 5: something really big.
• 48:39
  Speaker 4: that I take from it, you know what I'm saying?
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: Not that I felt like I was not being myself.
• 48:46
  Speaker 5: But if anything, it inspires me to tap into that
• 48:49
  Speaker 5: even more, you know what I'm saying? There was a period,
• 48:52
  Speaker 5: and this was a side effect of going to drama school,
• 48:58
  Speaker 5: there was a period where I didn't want people to
• 49:01
  Speaker 5: necessarily know I was from New York or I was
• 49:03
  Speaker 5: from Brooklyn. I would try to put on a neutral
• 49:07
  Speaker 5: accent so that you don't know, you know, because I'm
• 49:12
  Speaker 5: an actor and you're not supposed to know where I'm
• 49:15
  Speaker 5: really from.
• 49:16
  Speaker 4: Fuck all of that.
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 49:18
  Speaker 4: I'm from Brooklyn. born and raised. I'm a Brooklyn ass nigga. Okay.
• 49:23
  Speaker 4: And I'm proud of it. You know what I'm saying?
• 49:24
  Speaker 5: So it's like, you know, and that's something I embrace
• 49:27
  Speaker 5: no matter what, you know, what role I take on or,
• 49:30
  Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying?
• 49:31
  Speaker 4: Like, I mean, obviously if it's a specific character.
• 49:34
  Speaker 5: That's not from Brooklyn and I got to tap into that,
• 49:36
  Speaker 5: that's a different story.
• 49:38
  Speaker 4: But who I am is Marcus Callender. I'm from New York.
• 49:41
  Speaker 4: I'm from Brooklyn.
• 49:42
  Speaker 5: And, you know, if you know anything about New Yorkers,
• 49:45
  Speaker 5: that should tell you a lot.
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying?
• 49:50
  Speaker 4: Brooklyn.
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: Shiesty individuals.
• 49:53
  Speaker 4: What you got to say about Brooklyn? What?
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: You know Brooklyn niggas be robbing.
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: Well, I don't know. See, I don't know much about it.
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: I can't speak to that. Every girl is known for something.
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: What is Brooklyn known for?
• 50:10
  Speaker 4: Flyness.
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: I thought that was hard.
• 50:15
  Speaker 5: They want to be known for that, but everybody know
• 50:18
  Speaker 5: Brooklyn is the flyest.
• 50:19
  Speaker 4: It's because we don't try that hard. Harlem, they try
• 50:22
  Speaker 4: hard over there.
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: Speaking of flyness, you did a random acts of flyness,
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: Terrence Nash. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, how was that experience?
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: Because I used to watch that. I'd smoke.
• 50:31
  Speaker 4: I'd be like, yo, this shit kind of trippy. Oh,
• 50:32
  Speaker 4: that's the perfect show to smoke. That's the perfect show.
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: This shit trippy as fuck.
• 50:36
  Speaker 5: You got to smoke watching that show. That was a
• 50:42
  Speaker 5: wild experience, actually, filming that. I'm in it for like
• 50:47
  Speaker 5: a second. I don't even do anything crazy in it.
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 50:51
  Speaker 5: Just even being a part of that what was also
• 50:53
  Speaker 5: cool was that like a friend of mine who I
• 50:56
  Speaker 5: went to school with is the choreographer on the show
• 50:59
  Speaker 5: so it was cool to like you know kind of
• 51:02
  Speaker 5: hang out with right exactly it was a nice little
• 51:04
  Speaker 5: full circle moment but yeah no that show was that
• 51:08
  Speaker 5: show was wild that's a wild show.
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah Terrence is really cool.
• 51:14
  Speaker 5: He was fun to work with but yeah it's an
• 51:17
  Speaker 5: interesting show season one is Very different from season two.
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: You were in Compton, Straight Outta Compton, too, right?
• 51:24
  Speaker 4: I was. I was.
• 51:25
  Speaker 5: But there's a whole story behind why I was even.
• 51:31
  Speaker 4: In it. Tell it. Okay, so basically, what was that
• 51:34
  Speaker 4: in 2000?
• 51:35
  Speaker 5: What was that, like 2013 or.
• 51:38
  Speaker 4: Something like that?
• 51:38
  Speaker 5: So I tested to play Dr. Dre initially. That was
• 51:46
  Speaker 5: my initial relationship with that movie.
• 51:48
  Speaker 4: I was up to play Dr. Dre in it.
• 51:52
  Speaker 5: I did the screen test and everything. I thought it
• 51:55
  Speaker 5: went really well. Here I am waiting to find out
• 51:58
  Speaker 5: if I get the role.
• 52:00
  Speaker 4: Next thing you know, Billboard publishes that I had the role. Celebrate. Right?
• 52:07
  Speaker 5: The problem is, ain't nobody tell me that.
• 52:11
  Speaker 4: They didn't tell me that. You know what I'm saying?
• 52:13
  Speaker 4: So I hit it. I'm reaching out to my managers like, yo.
• 52:15
  Speaker 4: How does that happen? It's on the internet that I've
• 52:20
  Speaker 4: been cast to play Dr. Dre. But they didn't. Why
• 52:23
  Speaker 4: does Billboard know before I do? That don't sound right.
• 52:27
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying?
• 52:28
  Speaker 5: So, but like all these, you know, because once, you know,
• 52:31
  Speaker 5: say like a Billboard breaks that kind of news, basically
• 52:34
  Speaker 5: all the other outlets take the same information and post
• 52:37
  Speaker 5: it as well.
• 52:38
  Speaker 4: So it was all over the place. So my friends
• 52:40
  Speaker 4: just hit him like, yo, you about to be Dr. Dre, son. Yo,
• 52:43
  Speaker 4: that's crazy. And I'm like, wait, hold on. I don't
• 52:47
  Speaker 4: know yet. They didn't tell. I don't know. Lo and behold,
• 52:52
  Speaker 4: I'm on Instagram. You see my relationship with Instagram? You
• 52:55
  Speaker 4: hear this shit? I'm on Instagram. You know what I'm saying?
• 52:58
  Speaker 4: I scroll.
• 52:59
  Speaker 5: So the guy that plays Dr. Dre in the film,
• 53:02
  Speaker 5: Corey Hawkins, is a friend of mine. So I'm scrolling.
• 53:07
  Speaker 5: And I get to his page. He's in LA with
• 53:12
  Speaker 5: the sun in his face looking refreshed.
• 53:15
  Speaker 4: So I'm like, wait a second.
• 53:17
  Speaker 3: Looking like Dre.
• 53:19
  Speaker 4: Right. So I'm like, wait, hold on. If he's in
• 53:23
  Speaker 4: LA right now, damn, my heart dropped, yo. That was
• 53:27
  Speaker 4: like my first.
• 53:30
  Speaker 5: Experience in learning how the industry could be.
• 53:36
  Speaker 4: Very tough.
• 53:37
  Speaker 5: Meaning like, Nobody reached out on something like, yo, that
• 53:42
  Speaker 5: was our fault. That news shouldn't have came out. Nothing
• 53:46
  Speaker 5: ever happened of the sort. What they did do was
• 53:49
  Speaker 5: offer me that role in Straight Outta Compton.
• 53:52
  Speaker 4: It's a small role.
• 53:53
  Speaker 5: I'm in the scene where they're recording Boys in the
• 53:56
  Speaker 5: Hood for the first time.
• 53:58
  Speaker 4: I'm a part of the rap group from New York.
• 54:03
  Speaker 4: It was a nice moment. Shout out to F. Gary Gray,
• 54:05
  Speaker 4: the director. It was a nice moment. Well, you know,
• 54:08
  Speaker 4: you get a little screen time and shit.
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: They try to make it right.
• 54:10
  Speaker 4: You know what I mean?
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: Right, right, right.
• 54:13
  Speaker 4: There was still no, we're sorry. Right. It wasn't verbally said, but....
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: Get his nigga a pot.
• 54:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 54:23
  Speaker 5: So that's... And I just told y'all the short version
• 54:26
  Speaker 5: of it. So that's how I ended up in the film.
• 54:29
  Speaker 5: But all in all, I love that movie. I ain't
• 54:32
  Speaker 5: gonna lie, I was salty that I didn't get the role, especially...
• 54:36
  Speaker 5: and how I found out that I didn't get it. But,
• 54:39
  Speaker 5: you know, once I saw the film, you know, it
• 54:42
  Speaker 5: was all good. That's one thing about me. I'm going
• 54:44
  Speaker 5: to give credit where credit is due, regardless.
• 54:46
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying?
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: You ain't no hater, Marcus.
• 54:48
  Speaker 4: I ain't no hater. I saw it three times in
• 54:50
  Speaker 4: the theater. It's good. It was really good.
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: All right, now I want to get in your business
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: real quick. We're going to let you go in a minute.
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: Back to Distant Loving.
• 55:02
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: Have you ever.
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: been in a long-distance relationship. Yeah, yeah. Are you in
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: one now? Nah.
• 55:11
  Speaker 4: Hell nah. I don't do those anymore. Why? It's too... Especially, like,
• 55:20
  Speaker 4: with my lifestyle, it's too hard. It's too.
• 55:24
  Speaker 5: It's a lot of extra effort and work. Not that
• 55:28
  Speaker 5: I don't want to put in extra effort and work,
• 55:31
  Speaker 5: but I....
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: You would fuck other people?
• 55:35
  Speaker 4: No. No, no, no.
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: Period.
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, no.
• 55:41
  Speaker 4: It's just, it would have to make sense. It would
• 55:44
  Speaker 4: have to make sense. You know what I'm saying?
• 55:47
  Speaker 5: Also, you know, what I'm going to do on the nights.
• 55:52
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying? Like, yo, I don't know.
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: Fuck other people.
• 55:55
  Speaker 4: I get to see my shorty. You know what I'm saying?
• 55:57
  Speaker 4: I want to say, yeah, that's cool.
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: That's cool.
• 56:03
  Speaker 4: But you know, ain't nothing like the real thing. What
• 56:04
  Speaker 4: Marvin Gaye said? Ain't nothing like.
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: The real thing, baby.
• 56:10
  Speaker 4: Exactly.
• 56:11
  Speaker 5: So, you know, it's cool. I think in order for
• 56:16
  Speaker 5: me to be in a long distance, it would have
• 56:18
  Speaker 5: to make sense.
• 56:19
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying?
• 56:20
  Speaker 5: Like, it'll have to make sense. Like, if I dated
• 56:24
  Speaker 5: someone in L.A., that'll make sense because I'm there all
• 56:26
  Speaker 5: the time anyway.
• 56:27
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying? But I still prefer... Not
• 56:32
  Speaker 4: long distance. I prefer that, if possible.
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: So you single now? The ladies want to know.
• 56:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm single. Nah.
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: It sounds like somebody think they your girlfriend.
• 56:48
  Speaker 4: Why it sound like that?
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: You don't sound too sure.
• 56:51
  Speaker 4: Exactly. Yeah. I didn't say it like that. I didn't
• 56:59
  Speaker 4: say it like that.
• 56:59
  Speaker 3: I heard it exactly like that, Taylor.
• 57:03
  Speaker 5: I mean, look, is there somebody that I really, really
• 57:07
  Speaker 5: enjoy spending time with right now?
• 57:09
  Speaker 4: Yes, there is.
• 57:10
  Speaker 5: That's what we want to know. We're going to see
• 57:15
  Speaker 5: how that blossoms. So far, it's really nice so far.
• 57:19
  Speaker 5: So we're going to see how that blossoms.
• 57:22
  Speaker 4: Technically, I am single, yes.
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: Are you for marriage? Do you see the value in marriage?
• 57:30
  Speaker 5: I do, but there was a time when I didn't. Meaning,
• 57:35
  Speaker 5: so I didn't grow up.
• 57:36
  Speaker 4: In a two-parent household. So for me, it's literally foreign
• 57:40
  Speaker 4: to me. I don't even know what that looks like.
• 57:42
  Speaker 5: So for a long time, that wasn't really something I
• 57:48
  Speaker 5: looked at as a goal. You know what I'm saying?
• 57:51
  Speaker 5: I definitely want to have kids for sure. Definitely want
• 57:54
  Speaker 5: to have children, but I was cool with having kids
• 57:57
  Speaker 5: without the marriage.
• 57:58
  Speaker 4: I was very fine with that.
• 58:01
  Speaker 5: But, you know, in conversations that I've had with people
• 58:04
  Speaker 5: who are either married or have grown up with parents
• 58:09
  Speaker 5: that are married, it kind of changed my perspective a
• 58:12
  Speaker 5: little bit in the sense that, like, yeah, it can,
• 58:15
  Speaker 5: there's a lot of benefit to that. You know what
• 58:17
  Speaker 5: I mean? So, you know, I'm Getting a little older now.
• 58:21
  Speaker 5: So it's like, yeah, I'm definitely dating with intention. Like,
• 58:26
  Speaker 5: you know, if I'm seeing you, like, if we get together,
• 58:32
  Speaker 5: if I, you know, if you become my girlfriend, I'm
• 58:34
  Speaker 5: definitely looking at you as somebody who I see potentially
• 58:38
  Speaker 5: being a wife.
• 58:39
  Speaker 4: Absolutely.
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: So, all right, we have this segment on our show
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: called Dumb Bitch Story or Simp Series, right? Boy, there's
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: no real.
• 58:47
  Speaker 4: Easy way to say this, but look.
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: And it's a time when people share a time where
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: they got played by the opposite sex. So can you
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: think of a time where a chick like you was like, damn,
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: you had to do it like that.
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: You done simped once or twice. Let us know.
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: Everybody has. And don't tell us no shit from high school.
• 59:14
  Speaker 4: Wait, you talking about where I got played? Yeah. Yeah.
• 59:19
  Speaker 4: Let me see.
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: Don't talk about the ninth grade. Every time a nigga
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: on here, they be like, yeah, when I was eight,
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: girl stole my candy. You know, like, nigga, tell us
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: some real shit.
• 59:29
  Speaker 4: Um.
• 59:31
  Speaker 4: Damn.
• 59:32
  Speaker 3: I feel like they be having a calling of dissonance.
• 59:34
  Speaker 3: They be trying to put that shit so far back.
• 59:36
  Speaker 3: Far in the back of their mind.
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: They can't remember.
• 59:38
  Speaker 4: Um....
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: You flew somebody out and then they left with your homies.
• 59:47
  Speaker 3: She actually for money, but it was really for to
• 59:49
  Speaker 3: get some nigga out of jail.
• 59:50
  Speaker 5: I would say like, I mean, the only thing I
• 59:59
  Speaker 5: could think of right now is there was a young lady.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 4: I was, this was a couple of years ago.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 5: This was like right before I started filming Wu-Tang actually.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 5: There was this young lady I was very interested in.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 5: And I thought we was on a good accord, but
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 5: she kind of ghosted me, basically. I was on my
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 5: way to the airport. We on FaceTime. Oh, hit me
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 5: when you land and all that. I hit her up
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 5: when I land, nothing. Called her again, nothing.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 4: She ghosted me. She knows who she is too, because
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 4: I've seen her since.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: You saw her?
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 4: According to her, I stopped talking to her. You know, like,
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 4: that's another thing y'all like to do. Y'all like to
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 4: do the little switcheroo. I was about to say, did
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 4: you hit? No, I didn't. We kissed.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: She didn't really ghost you then.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 4: She didn't ghost you.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: If y'all didn't fuck, it ain't a ghost.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: I'm going to use that one too. The thing is,
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: niggas want to smash.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 4: And then ghost. I'm going to use that one too.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 4: I'm going to use that one. Oh, no, it don't count.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 4: We ain't smash. Yes. I'm going to use that one too.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 4: You said it. Yes.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: You said it.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 4: Because y'all be on some other shit.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 3: Nah, the difference between men and women, y'all, like we don't,
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 3: we probably do like a little mutual ghost oftentimes.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 4: What's that mean?
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 3: Either we friends on your ass or we don't talk
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 3: to you no more. But men, they're going to smash
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 3: you first.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 4: No.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: Then disappear.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: Or friends on you.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 4: See, I don't do that no more. I don't do
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 4: that no more. You know what I'm saying? That was
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 4: the younger days. The old.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: The old.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying? Now, if I know it's
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 4: not going nowhere, or if I know, like, yeah, I'm
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 4: not feeling that, or this ain't going to work, I
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 4: don't even want to take it.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: But do you tell her, though? Or you just ghost.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 4: But if we didn't smash, it's not ghosting, right? It's not.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: So she didn't ghost you.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 5: But what if you've been talking for a couple of
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 5: months and you still didn't smash?
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 4: But like the rapport has been there, da, da, da, da, da,
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 4: and you stopped talking.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: Just out of nowhere.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 4: Does that count as ghosting?
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it definitely counts.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 4: Why?
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 5: Why?
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 4: Why does that count?
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: As long as I didn't give my coochie up, I
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: do not feel like I got ghosted.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 4: Really?
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 4: What did I lose?
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 5: You could have feelings for somebody without having sex.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I feel like.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: I feel like that's the ultimate though, feelings though. That's
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: like ultimate.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 5: See, for me, the mindset I'm in now, I mean, obviously,
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 5: if it's somebody who this is the relationship we have
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 5: where we just.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 4: Fucking around and shit. If that's the case, that's the case.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 5: For me, if I'm really interested in somebody, oh, I
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 5: need to get to know you first. I need to
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 5: see what's good. Because, yo, sex is always better when
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 5: you like the person, right?
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 4: Right. Off rip. Right. Off rip.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 5: Even if, like, oh, they don't do it, like, it's
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 5: still popping because you like the person.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying? Like, this is somebody, like,
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 4: I like to cuddle. I want to cuddle that. I
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 4: want to, you know what I'm saying?
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 5: If I'm not feeling you like that, you're going to
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 5: see a different side of me. You know what I'm saying?
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 5: So if you develop a relationship with somebody, getting to
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 5: know somebody, you know what I'm saying? And then all
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 5: of a sudden you stop talking, that's still a ghost.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 4: Right. I agree. You still ghosted.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 5: We didn't have sex, but there's intimacy there. Did she
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 5: owe you an explanation though?
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: Right. What did she say when you saw her?
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 4: She said, I stopped talking. She just basically flipped the script.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: She a nigga. She a grown ass man.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and then I saw her out with her fucking
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 5: boyfriend and shit.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 4: I said, that's your man? All right, word. That's who
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 4: you fuck with? All right, cool. You know what I'm saying?
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 4: Everything happens for a reason. Everything happens for a reason.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: Marcus, tell everybody where they can find you. Tell them
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: about the show, where they can watch it, all that
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: good stuff.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: What you got coming up next, everything.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 5: So social media wise, you can find me on at
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 5: distantloving on Instagram is one word. That's also my tag
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  Speaker 5: on Twitter too. It's at distantloving. What I got coming
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  Speaker 5: up next, I'm actually writing a movie right now. I'm
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  Speaker 5: a co-writer on a film. So that's kind of like-
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  Speaker 5: That's dope.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 5: So that's kind of been my main focus right now.
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  Speaker 5: Wu-Tang is coming out February 15th. Make sure y'all tune
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  Speaker 5: into that on Hulu, season three, our final season.
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  Speaker 4: By the way.
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  Speaker 1: Side bitch day. When you with your nigga, side bitch day,
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  Speaker 1: you can.
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  Speaker 4: Watch the show.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, it's perfect for that.
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  Speaker 4: It's perfect for that.
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  Speaker 2: Perfect for that.
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  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 5: And we drop, and we drop, we're going to drop
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  Speaker 5: three episodes for when it comes out. So you got
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  Speaker 5: three episodes to watch.
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  Speaker 1: Perfect, perfect. Thank you so much, Marcus, for joining us.
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  Speaker 1: You gave us a really good interview.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you. Thank you for having me.
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  Speaker 1: All right. We're coming. Send us information for your party
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  Speaker 1: because I'm turning up.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm going to send it. I'm
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  Speaker 4: going to send it.
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  Speaker 1: It's a Nigerian spot. I'm going to find me a
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  Speaker 1: little something, something out there. Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: It's a good time.
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  Speaker 2: It's a good time.
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  Speaker 4: It's a good time.
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  Speaker 2: The dancing. The male attractive dance. All right, y'all.
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  Speaker 3: Listen, so if you enjoyed this episode, please tune in
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• 1:05:36
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  Speaker 2: Follow me now if you won't get on. What's up, Tam?
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  Speaker 1: Y'all, it's me, Official Tam Bam. Follow me on Instagram.
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  Speaker 1: I love y'all. Thank y'all for tuning in. Remember to
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  Speaker 1: speak now.
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  Speaker 2: And never hold your peace.