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Radio Ranch with Roger Sayles 052226 LIVE, - From Flotillas to Tohu: Law, Power, and First Principles with Brent Winters · Global Voice Radio Network's tracks

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  Unknown: Forward moving and focused on freedom. You're listening to the Global Voice Radio Network.
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  Thank you so much for joining us, and welcome to the program.
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  Unknown: Doggy.
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  So would we. We're gonna take another stab at it here on the Friday edition. You know, that means it's not just me.
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  I got this other, companero,
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  and that would be mister, Brent Winthers that
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  when he decides to come join us, he's gonna be with us. I'm pretty sure. I hadn't heard otherwise.
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  Anyway, so Brent Winters, the cohost today, get into some real good discussions, many of them spiritual,
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  to show you that this is a spiritual war and all the things we do,
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  I can connect right back to biblical sources. Okay?
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  So it's very solid, good foundation. We love having Brent Long. He's got incredible
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  amounts of knowledge on things
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  historical,
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  particularly, things present also.
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  So here we go. It's the twenty
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  second two two.
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  It's my father would say my favorite number.
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  2226.
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  Roger sales. Brent Winter's on his way. Radio Ranch is where you're at. I'm assuming you know, but sometimes you don't know these days.
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  So, anyway, Paul, if you'd be so kind to go through your little part of the dog and pony show here at the front end
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  and identify the people that and there are people that really adhere to this message and like to help us spread it as far and wide as we can. Numbers is what we need,
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  and they need proper credit and recognition for their contribution, Paul. I'm sorry. It's just a it's a mandatory thing.
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  Unknown: It is. It it absolutely
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  is.
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  And we appreciate every single, platform that helps us spread this message. Thank you.
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  One of which is radiosoapbox.com
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  brought to us by pastor,
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  no. Rod.
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  Unknown: Yes.
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  Unknown: Yeah. And we definitely wanna give those peep
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  See, I just circled back.
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  And one of those platforms that does that is radiosoapbox.com
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  brought to us by Paul English.
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  Had a great,
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  great Paul English live show yesterday, 3PM eastern,
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  every Thursday.
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  And
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  we actually have a copy of that on Rumble yesterday,
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  and I had a snafu,
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  switching from the after show of the Radio Ranch to Paul English Live. So on Rumble,
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  if you're wondering why that stream is almost twenty four hours long,
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  it
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  covers the Radio Ranch from yesterday, the after show with a lot of discussion about
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  status
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  and, also the Paul English live show for that three hours, and then it's just dead air after that. Hours
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  Unknown: upon hours of dead air.
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  Unknown: Yes. How much fun? Hours upon hours. See, we don't have a problem with dead air here. We're not a commercial radio station. We don't care. Yeah.
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  We're on eurofolkradio.com
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  also, thanks to pastor Eli James,
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  and we're on Global Voice Radio Network, both audio and video. Radio.globalvoiceradio.net
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  will take you to the list of shows and the the link for the livestream
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  and rumble.globalvoiceradio.net.
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  So you can go to my Rumble channel, and you can catch that twenty four hour
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  video.
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  Oh, that's crazy.
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  The Matrix Docs is our website. You can also get there by going to nationalsonly.com,
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  and, free conference call is how people join us on the show. Now there you go. It started out with a little hiccup by getting through it. It's all good.
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  Unknown: Okay. Well, anytime you get into those snaffies, I learned this from my original program director.
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  In fact, he's the only program director I ever worked for. He's the guy that got me that radio job, actually.
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  Anytime you get into something like that where you where you get mixed up, here's what it's just like,
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  who was it? Bugs Bunny or whoever.
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  You just stop and go, and
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  somehow,
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  that magically straightens out your mind and gets you back on track. I'm not kidding. It works. That's why you hear me do it sometimes.
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  Okay.
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  Good morning, kiddos.
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  Unknown: I'd be doing that all day, Raj. Well, okay. Just I'd doing.
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  Just
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  Unknown: well, you know, I was here. It reminds me of Scott that used to live here. He's over in The Philippines. Now I guess he's doing really well without any electricity
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  and the restrictions on everything over there
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  because of no oil.
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  But, anyway, Scott
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  was down here one day. He he lived north here in Cotacachi, and,
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  and we were going having lunch or something. And what there's a fruit that if you any of you ever come down here, you're gonna see fruits you've never seen before. You've never heard of, don't know the name of. And,
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  one of them is this fruit called guanabana.
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  It's and if you just see the word, it's this long g word. You don't know how to pronounce it. But and I had problems with it, and we were up getting something to drink. And one thing they do, it's a wonderful anticancer fruit, by the way. It's got a very nice light kinda suave,
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  smooth taste. It's it's delicious,
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  refreshing, and
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  so I was talking to I want to order a drink, and I couldn't, you know, pronounce it. Scott says, I'm gonna show you how you'll never ever
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  forget to pronounce that correctly.
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  And so easy. You know that little song?
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  Everybody knows that. You get it.
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  You'll
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  never forget it and never mispronounce it again.
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  Wow. It's just funny.
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  Okay.
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  I see mister Winters has not, pulled up to the saloon yet.
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  Have a nice sarsaparilla here for him.
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  Waiting
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  awaiting his arrival.
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  But, anyway, one of the hot things that I heard this morning, listening to the tail end of Harrison from yesterday,
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  have you heard about this flotilla over there in the Mediterranean?
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  Unknown: No.
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  Unknown: Yep. Mister Paul, you haven't heard about that?
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  No.
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  Have you heard about all the innocent Gazans? They got pinned underground. They wanna murder all of them, especially the men. They got out of a a murder
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  order. Any male in in Gaza assassinate.
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  That's good recently. You haven't heard that either, have you?
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  No. I have not heard that. Okay. Well, there was I don't know how many ships were in this flotilla, but there's another one of these flotillas in the Mediterranean trying to bring
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  supplies and food and things that are needed to these poor sequestered people that are just being picked off. Like,
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  I just picked off like you're hunting ground squirrels every time one sticks his head out, bam. You got him. You know? Doesn't matter anything else. So they're heinous. You know that. We know that. They're getting exposed all over the world for their heinousness. Boy, this is maybe a maybe a very unfortunately,
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  an advantageous
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  thing. I think
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  I think mister Sasparilla just showed up. Morning, Brent.
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  So,
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  I don't know how many ships were in this. When we've attempted this before, it's not a new scene,
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  but a a a group of people that are passionate about these poor people in Gaza and the way they're being mistreated and they're literally genocided.
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  None of them,
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  Jewish. All of them, European Americans, mainly Italians.
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  I think, Paul,
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  I think there's, like, four over 400 of them
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  on this group of ships in international waters in the Mediterranean.
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  Israel sent their goons out, and they brought all of them back to Israel.
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  So they attacked a flotilla
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  of, of of ships bringing goods and and survival things to the people in Gaza in international waters. And
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  there's some videos of it that are surfacing. They bring them back to Israel,
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  and they torture them. And
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  they've got Govere or Gwen Govere or one of Netanyahu's
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  goons. They've got them all all
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  they're they got the wrists with those little plastic things on them. They're bent down.
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  Got them bending down. This is in Israel now, not on the high seas.
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  And one
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  of these this Ben Gavir guy is walking around them waving a a large Israeli flag on a pole
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  and go, you're in Israel now.
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  And, and we we I forget the things he said. It's, of course,
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  despicable.
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  Void voiding every every chapter of international law. Just hold on. So they tortured a bunch of them. And and and then then they let many of them go. They still got some of them evidently,
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  but they let them go, and then the people get out there and they start taking their shirts off and show you how they were tortured and the, the marks and scars on their back, whatever they used.
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  And all that's starting to hit the news now.
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  And the Italian prime minister is absolutely
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  fit to be tied.
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  She called the Israeli ambassador over, read him the riot act. There's other country citizens in there too. Another big scandal from these goons, you know, big surprise, but
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  they just keep piling up and on top of this week where they say, well, you know, Israel, we we we conquered a new land, Kentucky.
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  It's all over their newspapers. Of course, they deny it here.
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  But, anyway, just another further,
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  little incident in the developing exposure of,
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  the the worst people that have ever walked on the face of the earth to my knowledge. I don't know of any other ethnic group ever that's been this heinous
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  and open about it. K? So, anyway, Brent, good morning. I think I saw you pull up up there. Did I not?
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  Unknown: Hi, Roger. Hi. Morning. Yeah. Yeah. So
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  the latest news, I'm just listening to you talk, is that
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  the Israelis
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  took
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  a crew and
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  and others off of Italian ships. Well, they to bring relief to Palestinians
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  Unknown: who were starving or needed medical attention. Is that right? I pretty much, I don't like that Italian ships because they were not from the country of Italy. There were a bunch of people that felt sorry for these people being massacred over there and put a bunch of civilian money and civilian
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  people on these different boats and I don't know how many. Evidently, quite a few of em And Israel goes out in the middle of their international
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  waters in the Mediterranean,
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  succumbs the ships,
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  captures all of them, and takes them back to Israel, and tortures them. Let some of them go, but they've still got some over there. So that's developing. It just broke. I've saw a couple of people allude to it earlier this week, but the story is just now starting to get even some legs.
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  Not many. You're not gonna hear any of the establishment media cover this.
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  You know, except for Israel. Poor little Israel was about to get invaded. You know you know the scene.
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  So, anyway, yeah, that's just something I wanted to mention that you weren't here yet, and so I wanted to get it off by. Gee. The the the Nazis,
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  Unknown: cooperated with the Red Cross to bring
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  care packages to POWs
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  in Germany. Oh,
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  sure. That was that was common. Matter of fact, I I was I've been told by
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  former prisoners of war,
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  of course, they're not prisoners anymore, and most of them are gone, that told me this, that they received Red Cross packages in the POW camps regularly.
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  Mhmm. And that's what really kept them alive because the Nazis
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  didn't have any food, much food to give them. And the English nobody had any food in the world but the Americans during war.
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  We had guns and butter and still do.
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  We did ever since then.
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  We're
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  we're blessed of God
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  without
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  without measure beyond
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  anybody's
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  wildest imaginations
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  and still are,
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  and, we should acknowledge it. But I know I hadn't you say that this wasn't in the news. It just broke.
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  Unknown: Well, it started earlier this week. Of course, they're Israel, because it makes them look so horrible, are gonna put a cap on this.
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  They're not gonna see even any mention unless it's in somehow
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  a favorable terms of Israel on any establishment media.
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  But, the people that are talking about it are going over and reading the Harit and the Israeli press, and it's just so different from the exposure we get.
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  I saw Tucker Carlson
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  get on,
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  in a in a discussion with an Israeli,
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  host of some sort.
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  Tucker Carlson
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  shredded this guy.
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  Shredded him.
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  So I hope that video gets out because, boy, he did a good job.
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  What's the name of the guy that interviewed? I I have no idea some Israeli talk talk show host. But, boy, he try he tried to cover up and and and and Tucker just let him have it. I don't care what society in you're in. Murdering children is not acceptable.
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  He's always trying to make excuses and all that. Tucker
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  shredded his little fanny. Okay? So that was good. Now let me say as before we get off into what we normally do.
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  I got to have a rare rare,
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  moment last night.
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  Got two of our students. One the female
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  has been a listener for
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  over over ten years, way back in the teens that my previous ex wife, my last ex wife.
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  And we'd become friends, and then she just kinda disappeared.
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  And, her sister,
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  we have on the show now because she's turned her sister onto this, and that's miss Nancy
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  that comes on. She's probably listening.
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  She's down there taking care of their house while they're in Ecuador for about ten, twelve days,
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  and I got to go up and meet two and have dinner with two of my students last night.
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  And that's just such a rare occurrence
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  that it's just so pleasurable for me because I can sit down with several people at the table, and we're all on the same page.
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  K? And it was just wonderful. They're pardon me? They traveled to South America? Well, they came down here on a trip. They wanted to come. He's a a a
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  he's 71 in the seventies. I'm not sure how old Suzanne is. You know, it's not nice to ask a woman their age, I think. And
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  so,
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  she's lovely, though, both of them. Dean's a tall old string bean. He's about six foot five, looks to be. He's a dentist that takes and one of the things he does and how they met,
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  she wanted her mercury fillings removed, and he's the guy that did it, and they ended up getting married. They've been married about two years. His wife had passed away,
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  and they're like two little lovebirds.
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  Unknown: Okay? And Where where are they from? Virginia.
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  Unknown: They just bought a house on the Chesapeake Bay.
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  Yeah. And,
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  they're down on this trip where they
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  they're meeting up with the tour group this afternoon, and they've got, like, six days in Ecuador, and they're gonna
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  go and see a couple of sites here, which are very famous.
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  And then they're gonna go to the jungle on the other side of the Andes for six days,
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  and then they're gonna come back here. And then they've got mutual friends that they knew apart before they knew each other that lived down in Cuenca,
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  one of the big cities where expats go here. They're gonna go down and spend three days in Cuenca,
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  and then they're gonna come back and spend their three days here in this valley with me, and then they're gonna go back to Virginia. So I get to I get to see them again and spend a couple of days with them. And just as delightful for me to meet some of you folks.
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  I just I can't express it hardly really in words.
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  Unknown: Tell well, I'm sure that's an exhilarating
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  experience.
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  Tell them I said hello.
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  Know what I Yeah.
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  Tell them I said hello. When I because I know they listen
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  and
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  they're friendly people,
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  but when I think of a dentist that is six and a half feet tall,
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  I know that when you get in the dentist chair,
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  he would have to jack that thing up and Probably.
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  Otherwise, he'd be bending over, and he'd have a back problem. Yeah. Couldn't be. Well, he just say, oh,
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  Unknown: they're just so wonderful, both of them, and he's slowing down, working three days a week, and still loves his work and all that. And and they're just delightful together and they're like two little lovebirds and it's just real refreshing to know that people can still find each other even at that age and find that kind of happiness. I think it's fantastic. So it was a joy to spend time with him. I'm looking forward to the next time because he'll be a little bit better acclimated to this altitude.
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  I had asked him before they came. I said, either one of you had tendency for altitude sickness.
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  We don't know. Uh-huh. Well, he he was. He was overcome with it a little bit yesterday
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  and had a headache, and so there he had to lay down for a few hours. It's not uncommon.
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  You'll get acclimated to it after a couple of days.
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  The problem is he's gonna be here two days, and he'll probably start to get acclimated that he's going to the jungle, which is back down to sea level. So he'll reacclimate down there, then they're going to the other town,
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  which is at this altitude. And I said, by the time I see you again, you'll be you'll be pretty well acclimated,
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  man. So, anyway, it's funny. Had a wonderful evening, just charming,
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  and enjoyed it tremendously.
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  So I wanted to report that to the audience.
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  And, otherwise, in that, welcome, mister Winters. How's your week been?
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  Unknown: Oh, we're okay.
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  We're okay.
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  Sit by myself a lot and
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  do a lot of work.
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  And
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  I used to be quite a public man, Roger. I I don't know that
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  I was kinda in a long and bygone age, but I was
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  a well known man,
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  not only locally but in other ways, and I'm
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  glad that I'm not. I'm glad that I had that experience.
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  I didn't really look for that to happen, but it did happen.
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  And now
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  that that's over, I realize
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  that it's dangerous and
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  and you're
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  better off at some point in your life
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  being alone and working,
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  as the bible says, working with your hands
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  and doing things that are that'll last if you can. Yep. Anyway, that's what I'm doing. Yeah. That's how that worked out for me. Well, I'm wet with anticipation.
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  Unknown: You're what? I'm wet with anticipation
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  Yeah. To hear
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  you
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  comment
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  and analyze
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  the fact that we're no longer a sovereign country anymore, and it was publicly shown this week when you you don't control your own elections,
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  you're not a sovereign country anymore.
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  And I'm dying to get your output. I saw a really good interview with Marjorie
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  Taylor Green yesterday.
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  Uh-huh. That woman has totally changed.
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  Since she got out of that crap, she beams.
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  She smiles.
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  She's happy. You can really see the difference just in her composure.
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  Unknown: You know? Well, sure. They it's an ugly environment. It's and this is just a personal testimony for what it's worth. People take it for what it was worth.
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  I dove into it headfirst. I'm talking about
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  politics.
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  And when you dive into politics, you're going to war. It's it's murderous. It's dangerous. It's ugly, and there's no place for decent folk. But somebody needs to do it,
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  and so some people do.
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  She didn't need to do it. She needs to go home, and I'm glad she's home.
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  Unknown: She is too, by the way.
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  Unknown: Massy.
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  She has freedom she has freedom of speech now. See? Yes. You can't do when if you're a soldier or a sailor in a war,
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  you don't have freedom of speech. You're a darn fool if you if you that's not even what that's not the way it's supposed to be. That's not even what god wants.
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  And when you're in politics, you're at war. I used to wonder, why is it people
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  in public office never say anything? They talk for the longest time and never say anything. I remember a guy running for oh, he was governor.
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  And, oh, people loved him. He was the only man in the history of the state to win every county in an election. Oh, man. Yeah. Except one, and he only lost by three two or three votes. I can't remember.
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  Little county down there along the Wabash River called Gallatin.
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  But hardcore,
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  Democrat County.
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  But this guy, he would, mix I've heard him make a hundreds 100 speeches because I you know, when you're running for office,
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  everybody's
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  running for office. They have a big meal, a Lincoln Day dinner or a congressional
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  district
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  yearly dinner or something like that.
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  And all the people running for office from county clerk to sheriff to
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  state rep to congressman to senator to governor, and sometimes they'd bring in a
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  bring in a a presidential
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  candidate. You know? We had some of those come in. And they'd all they all of you running for you'd set up front
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  so people could watch you eat while they ate, and that's what they did. And I was advised, don't ever don't ever eat in front of a crowd because
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  inevitably,
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  you're gonna slop
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  I my I have a friend. I say he looks good in anything he eats because when he eats, he puts away manners, and it it's all over the front of his shirt. You know? Well, they look at you, try to take pictures of you being so I'd I wouldn't eat. And
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  but then they'd ask you to make us everybody get get up and make a speech.
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  They start with
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  fellow at the local level or running for sheriff or county clerk, whoever was there,
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  county clerk and recorder,
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  treasurer, all that stuff. And then they'd work their way up to governor,
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  and if there's a presidential
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  candidate there, they'd have him. Of course, they didn't come as often,
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  but every once in a while, one would show up. I remember
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  George not oh, what was his name?
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  Now this is how people this is how long politicians
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  are remembered. I can't Yeah. Can't even remember the guy's name. He was a US senator
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  from
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  Texas,
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  very well known. He married an oriental woman, I remember. She was there.
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  Of course, Bob Dole, he showed up. Oh, Bob Dole. This is old Bob Dole. It wasn't Bob in that case. It was another
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  Bob was from Kansas. Yeah. Him his wife at that time was president
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  of the
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  Red Cross International,
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  and she would show up a few times and Mhmm. And talk. But
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  but when you'd when this guy would talk, that was governor,
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  he'd get done making a speech and people would say, oh, did you hear
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  Jim's speech? Oh, so wonderful. And everybody would be
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  conducting, I call it, the glorification of the worm ceremony where everybody thinks the guy talking is wonderful.
• 26:26
  And then I would I got to asking questions,
• 26:29
  just taking a poll.
• 26:31
  I listened to the speech too. Oh, it was nice. He had a way of just coming across and a
• 26:37
  winsome winsome is the word.
• 26:40
  And
• 26:41
  I'd say, what did he say? And nobody could remember what he said. The reason was he he never said anything.
• 26:47
  Never said anything.
• 26:49
  Because he knew you you get into a mode and a track when you're running for office or in office that you know if you say anything,
• 26:57
  you'll be attacked.
• 26:58
  Mhmm. So you have you develop a skill, if you can, of talking for twenty minutes, making everybody feel great and like you,
• 27:07
  and don't say anything.
• 27:09
  Ronald Reagan was pretty good at that, and he'd of course, he was on radio for years, but he'd usually start out telling some silly joke
• 27:18
  that was really funny and clever.
• 27:21
  And he had a whole repertoire of him in his hopper. He could tell.
• 27:25
  And and if you don't do that, people won't like you. They don't you know, Newt Gingrich, he his great fault was, and he eventually sunk,
• 27:34
  was he tried to educate people.
• 27:36
  That doesn't work in politics. He was a history professor for years, and so he'd stand up and give a history lesson and say things that were just stupid. You know? I mean, politicians,
• 27:48
  like I say, when you get your name on the ballot, you automatically lose 30 to 40 IQ points, and you you get dumb real quick. And if you try to say something worthwhile, people will make fun of you.
• 28:00
  I had a congressman at well, recently,
• 28:04
  a woman
• 28:06
  got elected,
• 28:08
  first time she went to Washington DC,
• 28:11
  she made a speech at the women's
• 28:14
  congression congress, some kind of a organization
• 28:18
  where congressmen
• 28:19
  were women and they all get together and and she was making a speech and she said what the Democrats
• 28:25
  are doing are like it's like the Nazis.
• 28:29
  Well, was that true? Well, a lot of ways, yeah. You know, torture, killing, things like that.
• 28:35
  Killing babies, that's what the Democrats like to do, murder people.
• 28:40
  She said that, boy, they tore into her, ripped her apart,
• 28:44
  and no kidding. That's been a few years ago, and she hasn't made a public statement since. Really?
• 28:50
  That's the way it works in politics.
• 28:53
  So but,
• 28:55
  forgot we're on another track. Gonna talk about something, Roger. Oh, you talked I was wanting to hear your your reaction about the the Israel buying our elections. We're no longer a sovereign. Yeah. Massey. We're talking about Massey there in Northern Kentucky.
• 29:10
  Unknown: Let me ask you a question, Brent.
• 29:12
  You ran this, and I saw someone asked, I don't remember if it was Massey or one of the other reps from Kentucky said,
• 29:20
  just out of curiosity,
• 29:22
  how much would this race normally have cost?
• 29:26
  Unknown: Oh, it would have cost in today's dollars.
• 29:29
  Might have spent a million, maybe 2. The guy said 200,000.
• 29:34
  Oh, yeah. No. No. That would've been I'm sorry. Go ahead, Roger. I said the guy answered 200,000,
• 29:39
  Unknown: so I don't know anything else. Yeah. I believe more than that. But that's what he said.
• 29:43
  Well So now
• 29:45
  Unknown: No. That'd be that'd be pretty darn low. I mean, people if you spent 200,000
• 29:50
  Unknown: thirty years ago Uh-huh. That that wouldn't even have been significant then, Roger. Okay. Well, whatever it was, even if it's up a million or 2,000,000, you it's it it looks like they've dropped over 30,000,000 against him. Yeah. Yeah. Now Now they they came in, and I told you last week because we were talking about this briefly, I heard someone else comment on it.
• 30:12
  But this a big question I've got.
• 30:14
  Uh-huh. In Kentucky
• 30:16
  has very few party runoffs in the primary.
• 30:20
  Very unusual, evidently.
• 30:23
  Uh-huh. And they they set the election laws.
• 30:26
  Uh-huh. But whoever was talking
• 30:28
  said there are no mail in ballots, I would assume, except for traditional absentee ones. Uh-huh. And that they they I remember telling you last week that that one of those rules is it because of this prime uniqueness of it, if you're not registered
• 30:44
  six months beforehand, you can't participate.
• 30:48
  Uh-huh. So there were a couple of real different things about it there,
• 30:53
  and the, and he won at the last minute dump of of ballots. I and I don't know. Were they how'd they get mail in ballots when supposedly from what I heard, I'm going on hearsay
• 31:04
  here that that's against the rules. So I don't know if Massey's gonna,
• 31:09
  challenge it. We'll see. Even Marjorie Taylor Green said we don't know yesterday.
• 31:14
  And,
• 31:15
  so it'll be interesting, but it appears they monkeyed with it, of course, again. Yeah. And Well So we'll see how it turns out. Maybe a blessing for Thomas Massey. You know, these are the things that you never know at the time of of the happening of the events or events,
• 31:31
  what the, ramifications
• 31:33
  and repercussions are gonna be. We'll just wait and turn out. A lot of times, the good lord makes chicken soup out of chicken poop.
• 31:40
  Unknown: Yeah. And especially in politics, I agree, Roger. And the lord do work, to quote Gary Cooper,
• 31:47
  the lord do work in mysterious ways.
• 31:50
  And what you think is a curse
• 31:52
  is a blessing, and what you think is a blessing turns out to be a curse.
• 31:57
  But in all cases, God plays with his enemies before he crushes them like bugs.
• 32:03
  And we see that, of course, in the Bible most constantly
• 32:07
  with the exodus of Egypt.
• 32:09
  Unknown: But they're over their skis right now, and that's why I brought up this incident in The Caribbean
• 32:14
  because every day, they're getting exposed on one of these deals to the magnum to to the to the maximum, at least to the alternative audience. And the alternative audience
• 32:25
  is overtaking the establishment media audience.
• 32:28
  Now Yeah. Brought
• 32:30
  him over
• 32:32
  the
• 32:32
  line
• 32:33
  has been my problem down here twice now. Uh-huh. Baby boomers that are
• 32:40
  glued to Fox News.
• 32:42
  Uh-huh.
• 32:43
  And I've I've experienced that down here too, actually.
• 32:47
  Unknown: Well, Kentucky is a fascinating place. And
• 32:52
  when I was running for
• 32:55
  office,
• 32:56
  of course,
• 32:58
  our
• 32:59
  our district
• 33:00
  bordered
• 33:01
  Kentucky.
• 33:02
  Mhmm. But it bordered Kentucky
• 33:04
  well,
• 33:05
  Cairo,
• 33:07
  where the
• 33:08
  Ohio and the Mississippi come together and
• 33:12
  and all down in there. And the congressman in Kentucky at that time,
• 33:17
  well, he was running the same time I was, and
• 33:21
  he
• 33:21
  his name was White.
• 33:24
  And at that time, the the shift was getting in high gear to shift the solid
• 33:29
  democrat South over to the
• 33:32
  over to the republican side, which they are now, of course.
• 33:37
  And White, this congressman there in the Western District Of Kentucky,
• 33:43
  was the first Republican
• 33:45
  congressman from that
• 33:47
  neck of the woods, the Western District.
• 33:50
  Now Massey is not in the Western District. He's in the North Central District along the Ohio River, which is the culture is
• 33:59
  well, it's a little bit different. You get down there in the Western District, you got that, I call it the Carl Perkins culture. You know? Down
• 34:08
  there along the river, it's different. The the
• 34:10
  it's that
• 34:12
  well, you that's where Carl Perkins was from and and, oh, a lot of well, Johnny Cash on further south, but it gets down in there where
• 34:20
  where it's a little bit more isolated.
• 34:22
  But this congressman,
• 34:24
  White,
• 34:26
  and I got to know the congressman around me in the same party,
• 34:31
  he was running for office, and they went after him like they went after Massey.
• 34:36
  And what they did to him Massey's fortunate.
• 34:39
  I mean, if you just lose an election,
• 34:41
  the if that didn't work, the next step would been to federal
• 34:45
  indictment.
• 34:46
  And if that didn't work, then the next step was they'd probably
• 34:51
  tried to kill him. Now I'd I'm speck I know what the MO is.
• 34:55
  Now the congressman,
• 34:57
  White, what they did with him first,
• 34:59
  they ran a Democrat against him in the Republican primary,
• 35:04
  tried to knock him out that way. And then all of the Democrats were instructed to go vote for this Democrat
• 35:11
  who was running in the Republican
• 35:13
  primary against White.
• 35:15
  Well, that didn't work.
• 35:17
  So he got on the ballot for the general election, and the next step was
• 35:21
  to indict him by a grand jury.
• 35:24
  And he was set he told me and by the way, he was he faced grand jury indictment.
• 35:30
  I was indicted by a federal grand jury on false pretense, of course. It's the the law fair thing.
• 35:37
  And the the governor was indicted on a federal grand jury. Tom DeLay from Texas who supported me came and did fundraisers.
• 35:46
  He was indicted by a state
• 35:48
  at the state level. Now I don't know if I think they have a grand jury in Texas. But at any rate, that prosecution
• 35:54
  lasted ten years and cost him about $10,000,000.
• 35:58
  He tried to raise the money only to get to the finally, after ten years, they drug it out.
• 36:04
  And to get before the supreme court to the state of Texas,
• 36:07
  and the supreme court to the state of Texas threw it out and says, this is silly what you're saying, the the prosecutors.
• 36:14
  But they by that time, they'd forced him out of congress,
• 36:18
  and he was the hammer. They called him the hammer of congress because the
• 36:24
  majority or the the minority whip
• 36:27
  before the Republicans took over,
• 36:30
  and he could raise more he raised more money for Republican candidates than anybody.
• 36:35
  Then you got just to talk about how this really works. You got Sonny Bono.
• 36:40
  Sonny Bono was running for congress. He had been mayor of of Palm Springs. Yeah. He got into politics, then he ran for congress, Palm Springs banning Beaumont
• 36:51
  there in Southern California.
• 36:52
  Well, not what we call the metropolitan area of but of of Los Angeles, but further to the east on Interstate 10, Palm Palm Springs.
• 37:03
  He ran for congress.
• 37:04
  And as a conservative
• 37:06
  Republican,
• 37:07
  He was the at that time, then he became the largest
• 37:11
  fundraiser
• 37:12
  for republican candidates. Of course.
• 37:15
  Yeah. The baby boomers back then were of of they were right in the prime of life of getting involved in politics. And if he did a fundraiser, they'd come to see him. Yeah. I I think I did I tell you about him when I met him in Washington DC?
• 37:30
  And I'll tell it again for people that maybe didn't catch it the first time, but Uh-huh. We used to go to fundraisers.
• 37:37
  And if you raised a lot of money, you had to go to DC. That's where the money was. And they had a big fundraiser there for Republican
• 37:45
  candidates, and I went to it. And, of course, you're just meeting people as fast as you can, and I was in a crowded room. And every time I turned a few degrees, I'd see somebody else, and I'd stick my hand out and say, my name is Brent Winters, and I'm running from so and so district, and and what's your name? You know? And I I did that. I shook hands with somebody, and I turned, and there was another fellow standing there. He looked
• 38:09
  like 40 yards of beat up moose hide.
• 38:11
  And I turned, and and he wasn't a very big fellow, I remember, and I shook his hand. I said, I'm Brent Winters, and I'm running for congress, and what's your name?
• 38:21
  And he very humbly,
• 38:23
  very kindly,
• 38:24
  this little man said,
• 38:28
  he kinda hesitated,
• 38:29
  and he had a halting speech. And he said, my my my name is,
• 38:35
  Sonny Bono.
• 38:37
  And I looked down at him, and I'm not a big tall man, six and a half feet tall, but I'm not I wasn't as short as he was. And I I said, if you're Sonny Bono, I'm Jack Benny. I didn't believe him. I
• 38:51
  said, you be Sonny, I'll be Jack. I was look trying to make a joke, you know. And all of a sudden, out of nowhere, all of a sudden, I noticed two men that were six and a half feet tall, probably weighed about two forty apiece,
• 39:05
  and standing
• 39:06
  on his both sides of him on his wings, and one of them looked down at me and smiled and said, no. He said, this really is Sonny Bono. You know? And I
• 39:17
  I said, well, I looked up at him, and they looked pretty dangerous, but they were nice guys. And I said, well, I didn't see that. I only heard just to be sociable. I'll take your word. I didn't want wasn't gonna disagree with him.
• 39:30
  And then I looked back at him and then I I began to see the resemblance a little bit, you know.
• 39:36
  And I said, well, Chuck, sorry I didn't recognize you. I hadn't seen you in thirty some years. Course, I'd only seen him on television, you know.
• 39:44
  And he laughed.
• 39:46
  He he was a winsome personality too, you see. Uh-huh. I mean, if you're gonna get in the office, people have to like you. That's bottom line. So you don't try to teach them history lessons. You don't try to instruct them on politics.
• 39:59
  You tell them jokes and you're kind to them. And you smile and shake their hands and look them in the eye. And there's nothing
• 40:07
  wrong with that. By the way, there's everything right about that. Yes. Everything
• 40:11
  right about it. They don't wanna be taught. They want some they wanna hire somebody to do a job.
• 40:18
  That's what they want.
• 40:19
  And if you'll notice, now DJ Trump has his own style, but it all it's all the same this way.
• 40:25
  It's a winning personality.
• 40:27
  When you listen to DJ, he can talk for hours and say nothing.
• 40:31
  Nothing.
• 40:32
  He he on all he spends a lot of time saying, well, this he's the greatest guy in the world. Man, what a great guy. What a great guy. Yep. Always complimenting.
• 40:42
  Oh, yeah. Never that's smart, and that's good.
• 40:46
  Because otherwise, politics
• 40:48
  is ugly. You could talk about ugly things all day long.
• 40:52
  But even even the ugly things that happened, like when Reagan got shot,
• 40:56
  that that Democrats,
• 40:57
  see, they were gonna kill him. They said, hey, boy. I don't think you know who's in charge here. Yeah. So they send a crazy man in, pop him with a 22 caliber. He goes to the hospital,
• 41:08
  and he's laying in bed. He knew the press would get this information, and he said,
• 41:12
  well, just promise me that the doctors are Republicans. Remember when he said that? Oh, yeah. Yeah.
• 41:19
  Unknown: Oh, he's so clever. He was really clever. Yeah. Well, that's the gets me, and I'll I'll never forget it is him talking in front of a room or something, and somebody pops a balloon, and he goes, you missed.
• 41:33
  Unknown: I I recall.
• 41:35
  Unknown: Mean, it
• 41:36
  wasn't even a nanosecond.
• 41:38
  Unknown: You didn't ask Sonny Bono to give you ski lessons, I hope. No. So with Sonny yeah. So then later, of course, he was doing he got in, and, he was doing
• 41:49
  fundraiser like gangbusters.
• 41:51
  Hell, the
• 41:53
  Democrats and the,
• 41:55
  the foreign interest couldn't stand that, so
• 41:59
  they finally,
• 42:01
  killed him. Now the newspaper said that it was a ski accident. He ran into a tree.
• 42:08
  Well, I remember
• 42:09
  I do remember seeing in the magazines and newspapers way back I'm talking a long time ago that Sonny Bono
• 42:17
  was skiing all the time. Sonny Bono was an accomplished skier.
• 42:21
  And what's the chances of an accomplished
• 42:24
  skier running into a tree? Oh, very slim.
• 42:30
  Unknown: Very as an accomplished skier
• 42:32
  Unknown: very soon. When skiers get older, they enjoy the gentler slopes and just enjoy being in the mount. They're not trying to They're blue. You know what? Yeah. They don't they're they used to play a game on the slopes there in Bora in California or Boraal.
• 42:48
  They play young people play a game where it would tackle the guy that gets it as you're going down the hill. Uh-huh. I mean, you know, that's what young people do. Older skiers don't do that. Yeah. We're smarter than that. You you go for the blue you go for the blue runs. Stay off of the blacks unless
• 43:05
  Unknown: and the problem was for people like me that might get to go for a few days every year or two, few years in a row, couple of lucky years.
• 43:13
  And if you go tackle those black slopes,
• 43:16
  you you you you just about do your whole day trying to fight that. You you know? You don't get many runs in. You don't enjoy it. You're at an altitude. It wears you out. You don't know the technique where you can easily flip down through them. And so to go on those slopes,
• 43:33
  those types of slopes, double black diamond and stuff, they it it it kinda ruins your vacation,
• 43:39
  Unknown: you know, really. Yes. And if you do have an accident, bodily damage could be permanent.
• 43:44
  Yes. It can be. Yep. Yep. Yeah. And if if if a man gets killed running into a tree, he's doing stuff the young people do, and he's going at high speeds. He always knows to fall. If you got if you lost control, you're going straight, you're headed for trees, you just fall. You know how to and you know how to fall. Well, Sonny knew all that. Yes. I couldn't believe it. And I knew they were out to get him.
• 44:07
  Congressman White, they were out to get him. They were to get me. They were out to get Tom Delay. They were out to get what was that senator about that time? They indicted him up in Alaska.
• 44:19
  Oh,
• 44:21
  Unknown: yes. No. I can't remember. His son
• 44:24
  his son is is the harp guy. I just can't remember his name. He is the federal well, whoever he was, they got him under federal indictment by the grand jury. Well, they always just get them off in Alaska and have a plane crash.
• 44:37
  Unknown: Oh, well, I didn't know about that. This guy just got indicted. They ruined his reputation,
• 44:42
  and he was forced to resign, and that was the end of the who that was. Yeah. Yeah. Well, so it's always the same thing in summation.
• 44:49
  It's ruined a man's reputation,
• 44:53
  not and that'll knock him out of office or pay for a lot of money like they did with Massey, and if they don't have anything on him and knock him out of office,
• 45:01
  federal indictment,
• 45:02
  or just shoot him. Now if they shoot him and they don't kill him, well, he'll get the message like Reagan did. He didn't say the things after that that he used to say. He was still a nice guy and he was winsome,
• 45:15
  but he changed his rhetoric quite a bit. Tone it down. Yeah.
• 45:20
  And I don't criticize him for it. Death is an ugly thing, and you realize what you're dealing with. I think DJ Trump has come to that realization.
• 45:29
  Unknown: That was the beauty of Massey is he got in and learned how to maneuver around the opposition,
• 45:35
  and Nick, the opposition worked for him. I'll give you an example.
• 45:39
  He was looking at forty four seventy three, I believe, is the form for ATF for gun purchase.
• 45:46
  Yeah. And he was looking at statistics,
• 45:48
  and he realized
• 45:50
  that blacks and Hispanics
• 45:52
  were being turned down for applications
• 45:54
  more than whites.
• 45:56
  Yeah.
• 45:57
  How
• 45:57
  about that? So he goes to that blacks,
• 46:00
  rep from Houston who's been up there for thirty years or more and another one of those, hooligans.
• 46:06
  They go, look. You got discrimination
• 46:08
  right here. And they go, oh my god. And they work with him to alter the form.
• 46:13
  So he would take backdoor approaches because the front door approaches don't work. They
• 46:20
  generate,
• 46:20
  you know, tons of opposition.
• 46:23
  You know, anyway, that's the kind of guy he was straightforward. Never never slammed Trump. Here, the the the president is up there absolutely
• 46:33
  circling you out and calling you out on national television and saying what a horrible person you are,
• 46:40
  slamming your family. Oh, everything
• 46:43
  that Trump did on this, including
• 46:46
  and this what I wanna get your read on, including
• 46:49
  Hag Seth
• 46:50
  in the middle of a war as the director of the department of war takes a day off and comes campaign for his opposition.
• 46:58
  That's never happened before in the history of American politics.
• 47:01
  And goes
• 47:02
  over there and goes, I'm taking a personal day off. Yeah. Let's see your pay stub. I wanna see that deducted out of your pay stub.
• 47:09
  Unknown: Uh-huh.
• 47:10
  Unknown: So, anyway, all the shenanigans.
• 47:13
  Joe's got something to add here. Hey, Joe. What what, buddy? What did I forget?
• 47:18
  Unknown: Nick Baggage.
• 47:21
  Unknown: Nick Baggage. Exactly correct. And And his son his and his dad was killed in an airplane crash.
• 47:27
  That's the one, Begich. Yeah. Thank you, Joe. Y'all are always good at
• 47:32
  filling in those blanks so that us old men can't recall.
• 47:36
  Unknown: Roger,
• 47:37
  you catch the name of that senator. What was it? Nick Begich. It's Begich.
• 47:41
  Unknown: Oh, I see. It was his father. Nick Begich is the guy that's promoting harp and all that for years. It was his father that
• 47:50
  they didn't like. When I was in West High School, up there in high school, I had two brothers
• 47:56
  called the Hinkle bro Hick Hinckley Brothers
• 47:59
  and
• 48:00
  Hickle Hickle.
• 48:02
  And their father was governor of Alaska.
• 48:05
  And when Nixon got in,
• 48:08
  he named him secretary of the interior, I believe.
• 48:11
  And so,
• 48:13
  yeah, just boys, good boys. I didn't hang with them all that much, but we knew each other there. Uh-huh. And
• 48:19
  Unknown: Yeah. Alaska Alaska is a small place. And when you're up there, it's easy to get to know or run into
• 48:25
  the the big fish in the little pond up there. Yes. It is. Yes. It is. Yeah. And when I was up there, I I
• 48:33
  because the people that I knew and connections, I wasn't Roger, I wasn't up there
• 48:38
  more than two days, and I was on the the biggest talk radio
• 48:42
  show
• 48:43
  show
• 48:45
  in Alaska, of course. In Anchorage, probably. In Anchorage. Right. And
• 48:50
  then I got to hanging out with the guy that had run for US senate
• 48:55
  up there, and this gal that's in there now,
• 48:59
  that was election fraud like you wouldn't believe. He he was winning that race. Of course, he was appealing to the conservative crowd, and there are plenty of them up there. But people think they go to Alaska
• 49:11
  that, oh, well, that's gonna have freedom and all that, but Alaska is
• 49:15
  overwhelmingly
• 49:16
  shot through with political corruption.
• 49:19
  It's really bad.
• 49:20
  And a lot of it has to do with the oil industry. Of course, every Alaskan supposedly is supposed to get a cut of that every year.
• 49:28
  Well but the truth is the people that run it are
• 49:31
  are stealing the money because they there's so much they think nobody will miss it, and then there's nobody prosecuting
• 49:38
  them. But there was that gal that beat this fellow that I got to hanging around with and got to know him a little bit. He was a West Point graduate.
• 49:47
  His father ran a Christian bookstore somewhere in the middle of Kansas and was a preacher.
• 49:53
  Somehow, got into West Point, and then he went to Harvard Law School,
• 49:57
  and he graduated.
• 49:59
  And
• 50:00
  so he just
• 50:02
  Midwest kind of a guy that was ultra conservative,
• 50:06
  and he ran for you. And then he became a federal magistrate up there, an appointment. Of course, it's easy to get a a judgeship,
• 50:13
  state or federal, in Alaska because they can't find anybody that wants to live up there. Yeah. Probably. Well, it's a it's a fabulous state, folks. Go ahead. Yeah. And if you're up there in that Northern borough, what they call the unorganized borough, what they don't have counties. They have they call them boroughs. But Okay. There's some of them up there bigger than most states down here, you know, and they're unorganized.
• 50:35
  There's no nobody lives there. So so what's gonna happen? Well, a lot of a lot of criminals congregate in the unorganized borough and try to hide out in the wilderness,
• 50:47
  but the state, of course, does have a court up there.
• 50:51
  And because of the room remote location,
• 50:56
  the state can't find anybody
• 50:59
  that is educated to the task of being a lawyer or being a not a lawyer, being a judge.
• 51:05
  And all you need to be a state judge up there,
• 51:09
  a state magistrate, I forget what they call them. But any rate, all you need is a high school diploma.
• 51:15
  And they send you to school for a month or so to kinda teach you the fundamentals, and then they make you a judge.
• 51:23
  Glorified
• 51:24
  justice of the peace, I suppose. Yeah. That's what I was gonna say. They call them the justice of the peace. But go ahead, please. Oh, yeah. Something like that. But they have a lot of power in those unorganized boroughs.
• 51:35
  And when I was up there, the people that I met we were traveling around talking and
• 51:41
  and
• 51:42
  the people that I met were pushing me hard. Move up here,
• 51:47
  and we need we need somebody with conservative
• 51:50
  sense as a
• 51:52
  a justice of the peace, magistrate judge, some kind of judge they had up there. And, you could do that, and, we might have some law
• 52:01
  in this unorganized
• 52:03
  borough. Right now, there's no law, and the left wing has been providing the
• 52:08
  justices up there.
• 52:10
  The criminals the criminals were we're talking ugly people taking over in those areas
• 52:17
  because they thought they could and they would operate their crime and out of those areas.
• 52:23
  Well, I'm just making a point about the but this this woman, she's a has a Polish name
• 52:29
  who's in the US Senate. Murkowski?
• 52:32
  Yeah. Yeah. She you know this, if it has now I've had Polish people tell me this for what it's worth. If a polok
• 52:40
  and I don't use that as a term of derision, that's the the that's the proper word for a Polish person,
• 52:47
  but it's been oh, guess who guess who
• 52:51
  started the culture of Polish jokes and making fun of Polish people?
• 52:56
  I'll give you three guesses, and the first two don't count. Mhmm. But
• 53:00
  the the Polish people have they've told me if their last name a Polish person's last name
• 53:07
  begins
• 53:08
  in ski, s k I,
• 53:11
  then they are of the more aristocratical
• 53:14
  class or were at one time of
• 53:17
  Poland.
• 53:18
  And then the ones whose name does not end in ski
• 53:22
  are not.
• 53:23
  For
• 53:25
  what it's worth, that's what they've told me. That's interesting. For the poles,
• 53:29
  I've had oh, I grew up with a fella
• 53:32
  whose
• 53:33
  family
• 53:34
  came
• 53:35
  well, on his mother's side, not his dad's side, it was an old family there.
• 53:39
  But his mother's side came
• 53:41
  his grandfather came there to work in the coal mines
• 53:44
  because the Poles are good miners. They mine all different kind of stuff up there. And and and
• 53:51
  I I
• 53:52
  learned a little bit about Polish culture from his mother who just loved me to death. And, of course, a Polish mother is a special kind of creature.
• 54:01
  You know, they'll take care of you. They'll make sure you got good food to eat, and they're good cooks, by the way. Oh, yeah.
• 54:07
  Unknown: Don't they have a salt mine cathedral in Poland? I've heard. Yeah. I've I've heard that. Carved out of out of salt, and it's magnificent.
• 54:15
  I've seen videos of it.
• 54:17
  Unknown: Yeah.
• 54:19
  Well, when I got out of school,
• 54:21
  no. I was in school. When I got out of, working for uncle Sam on the other side of the world,
• 54:27
  I came home and, boy, I saw these coal miners.
• 54:31
  I got to thinking. You know, they have they'd have brand new great big pickup trucks
• 54:36
  living in a broken down shack with a color TV
• 54:40
  antenna sticking out of it. And I knew they were making about 8 or $9 an hour, which was a lot of money, I thought.
• 54:48
  And so I decided,
• 54:50
  and I was trying to learn geology at the time, I decided I would
• 54:55
  get a job at the coal mine.
• 54:59
  And my friend,
• 55:00
  his name Jay, we we were just tighter than ticks growing up,
• 55:06
  those Poles are big people sometimes too, by the way.
• 55:10
  Unknown: They can be. Yes. They
• 55:13
  can be, certainly.
• 55:14
  Unknown: Yeah. Well, I I I I was visiting with my buddy and his mother. I'd stopped by the house, and
• 55:23
  and she treated me like her own children. It was that kind of thing, you know.
• 55:27
  And
• 55:29
  I told her that she asked me what I was doing. I said, well,
• 55:32
  think I'm gonna get this job down at the coal mine, and boy, she came unglued,
• 55:37
  went ballistic.
• 55:40
  And she started telling me stories about her granddad and her dad and how dangerous it was and how many people got killed and different mine
• 55:49
  tragedies. And
• 55:51
  as it turned out, she prevailed on me. I wasn't so anxious after that.
• 55:56
  And she it is a dangerous business, of course. Oh
• 56:00
  my. They've had some of the most terrible coal mine disasters. They had one there in that part of the world at a place called
• 56:07
  well, one at Centralia.
• 56:09
  Yes. I've heard of that.
• 56:12
  It was massive.
• 56:13
  Uh-huh. And and that was right about the time of World War two, I think. Oh, hundreds. Don't know. Yeah.
• 56:19
  Then there was another one at a place called Mowikwa.
• 56:23
  Mowikwa.
• 56:24
  I think that's an Indian word, but it's the only Mowikwa in the country. Now that was further north.
• 56:29
  But they had a terrible accident there too. And when they have the you know, there's what happens in some of those cases, you think, oh, yeah. It'll it'll cave in on you. Well, that's dangerous, but the the greater danger are the explosions. Yes.
• 56:43
  Yeah. Because when coal dust is in the air and when you're drilling and digging and mining,
• 56:49
  that produces a dust
• 56:51
  from the coal, and of course, is a
• 56:55
  combustible,
• 56:55
  highly combustible material, and if the dust is in the air,
• 56:59
  it's mixed with one of those three
• 57:02
  indispensable
• 57:03
  ingredients to
• 57:05
  what we call oxidation.
• 57:07
  And if oxidation is slow, we call it rust.
• 57:12
  On and if we on
• 57:14
  on metals,
• 57:16
  if if it's a little bit faster,
• 57:19
  we call it burning,
• 57:21
  like with wood and
• 57:24
  stuff like that paper.
• 57:25
  If it's a little bit faster, we call it an explosion.
• 57:29
  Unknown: Mhmm.
• 57:30
  Unknown: And if it's faster yet, in other words, as fast as moving
• 57:34
  through the material at a rate of 35,000
• 57:37
  feet per second or higher, we call that a detonation.
• 57:42
  Danomite
• 57:43
  and nitro which well, dynamite is nitroglycerin,
• 57:47
  clays and nitroglycerin,
• 57:49
  certain kind of clay, that's a detonation.
• 57:51
  And it it it it changes from a
• 57:54
  solid or a liquid to a gas at such a
• 57:58
  high rate of speed
• 58:00
  that anything in the way has just got to get out of the way because it
• 58:05
  the gas that it changes to has to have some place to go. You know, go from a small little bit of
• 58:11
  dynamite,
• 58:12
  half a stick, and all of a sudden it needs
• 58:15
  enough room instantaneously,
• 58:17
  almost as big as a house, well, anything in the way is gonna get annihilated.
• 58:21
  And that's not an exaggeration,
• 58:23
  by the way, about how much space a quarter stick of dynamite would need. Well, you got all this coal dust in the air, so it's mixed with oxygen.
• 58:32
  Without oxygen,
• 58:33
  there can be no combustion,
• 58:35
  there can be no oxidation,
• 58:37
  as we call it, The breaking down of the material,
• 58:41
  chemically
• 58:41
  altering it. But, of course, coal
• 58:44
  being mixed with that in the air and dust,
• 58:49
  when it starts to combust, it produces a chain reaction,
• 58:53
  creates a massive explosion.
• 58:55
  All it takes is two pieces of metal causing a spark. Bam. Oh, man. I mean, you're down there in that coal mine, you gotta yeah. And you're you got a tool in your hand or, like, a drill bit or something. You accidentally drop it and hits another drill bit. Who knows?
• 59:11
  Of course, there's always the idiot down there that thinks he's gotta have a cigarette, and he can't come out. It take too long, and you're down there working, he'll try to sneak off someplace and light a fag. Well, that doesn't you know, not a good idea.
• 59:24
  Unknown: A man like that would get a whooping real quick. Go ahead. Rick was trying to say something. Was that you, Rick, I think? No. I think that was me. Oh, it's Paul. Hey, Paul. There's
• 59:34
  Unknown: a
• 59:35
  coal fired power plant in Minnesota in in Sherburne County, it's called the Sherco
• 59:41
  power plant.
• 59:42
  And
• 59:44
  what they do is they take coal
• 59:47
  and they grind it and powderize it and blow it into the furnace under pressure.
• 59:54
  And
• 59:55
  you just can't believe
• 59:57
  the
• 59:59
  amount of Hades and hellfire going on inside that thing. Yeah. I can imagine. And that's what they do.
• 1:00:06
  Isn't there a town in Pennsylvania
• 1:00:09
  somewhere that's still smoldering
• 1:00:11
  because the mine underneath is burning?
• 1:00:14
  Unknown: Oh, there are lots of them. There's a lots of coal mines
• 1:00:18
  where lightning
• 1:00:19
  has struck the opening
• 1:00:21
  and started a fire
• 1:00:23
  that hasn't gone out, no kidding, more than one for over a hundred hundred and twenty five years. No.
• 1:00:29
  Yeah. And there's nothing they can do. You can't put them out. How are gonna, you know, And
• 1:00:35
  they just they just continue to burn, and they don't stop, and they'll burn the whole coal vein out.
• 1:00:41
  But that might take hundreds of years, see? I'll be darned.
• 1:00:44
  Yeah. Hundreds of years. Wow. There's enough coal there's enough coal in America
• 1:00:49
  Yeah. To run
• 1:00:52
  all of the energy needs.
• 1:00:54
  We're talking if you could convert it to all of our energy needs, which isn't practical, but if you could.
• 1:01:00
  For over from what we know, and this is probably not enough, but over six hundred to a thousand years.
• 1:01:07
  Now I think it probably is is unlimited.
• 1:01:09
  That's my thinking.
• 1:01:11
  Unknown: That was that's before data centers.
• 1:01:14
  Unknown: Oh, yeah.
• 1:01:15
  We got Enough coils.
• 1:01:17
  Are unlimited.
• 1:01:18
  Unknown: Go ahead. Somebody said something. There's there's enough coal in England
• 1:01:22
  to
• 1:01:24
  satisfy their energy needs for four hundred years.
• 1:01:27
  Just name Well,
• 1:01:29
  Unknown: thanks for saying it. Yeah. I I believe it. And that doesn't include all the peat
• 1:01:34
  that they've been mining for thousand years, which is still there. Correct. You know, peat is a fascinating stuff. It starts out
• 1:01:42
  as vegetable
• 1:01:43
  matter plants,
• 1:01:45
  and then it gets under a little pressure and it turns eventually by overburden and heat and pressure,
• 1:01:53
  it turns into what we call heat, p e a t,
• 1:01:57
  which is mined in Northern Europe and England, has been Scotland,
• 1:02:01
  and has been for centuries.
• 1:02:03
  And it's just a little bit compressed. And then it gets a little compressed more, and it turns into what we call
• 1:02:10
  lignite coal.
• 1:02:12
  And that means more overburden
• 1:02:13
  comes down on it from above, more rocks, more more things erode onto it, and it heat and pressure,
• 1:02:20
  and it compresses,
• 1:02:21
  it becomes lignite, that's kind of a brown coal, and then more pressure and heat over the centuries, it becomes
• 1:02:28
  anthracite,
• 1:02:30
  which is more compressed.
• 1:02:32
  And then over the centuries, it becomes more and more compressed. If it gets down deep enough, has enough weight on it, and is compressed enough, it turns into what we call diamonds.
• 1:02:43
  Unknown: Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Diamond is highly
• 1:02:47
  Unknown: condensed
• 1:02:48
  compressed
• 1:02:50
  carbon,
• 1:02:51
  which before was coal.
• 1:02:53
  Now that produces a problem with a lot of bible believing people for this reason.
• 1:02:59
  They say, well, God made the earth in six twenty four hour days. Okay. Yeah. I I don't argue with that, by the way. Or God did what he did in that narrative in
• 1:03:09
  six twenty four hour days. As a matter of fact, if you take the words for what they mean,
• 1:03:14
  that has to be the case. And god makes it clear in the context
• 1:03:18
  that that's the case, but going on,
• 1:03:21
  they say, okay, well then that can't be true. Coal can be made within a matter of weeks.
• 1:03:27
  That can that that can be true. That can be true. Yes.
• 1:03:31
  Coal can be made in a matter of weeks if given the right
• 1:03:35
  conditions. You know, people point to Mount Saint Helens,
• 1:03:39
  and I remember it blew up in '81,
• 1:03:42
  it was.
• 1:03:43
  Oh, and it was all over the news. I've been there. I've gone to the museum. I've been out in that And walked around. Yep. A pyroplastic
• 1:03:51
  Unknown: flow.
• 1:03:52
  Unknown: Oh, yeah. It was unbelievable.
• 1:03:54
  But what happened, there was a lake there created,
• 1:03:57
  and, of course, the the vegetable
• 1:03:59
  matter went down into it. It was covered up by a massive heated overburden,
• 1:04:05
  and the things that people had always said take millions of years to happen happened there real quick.
• 1:04:11
  And there's
• 1:04:13
  plenty of evidence of
• 1:04:16
  of the objects that men have made. The coal miners have found them in seams of coal. One famous object found in a seam of coal is a brass bell,
• 1:04:26
  a little handheld
• 1:04:27
  brass bell.
• 1:04:29
  All of these things are undeniable,
• 1:04:31
  but that doesn't mean that a lot of cold formations were formed over millions of years. You say, well, Brent, if you believe the Bible
• 1:04:39
  and you believe that God did what he did in the narrative of Genesis chapters one and two
• 1:04:46
  over
• 1:04:46
  over six
• 1:04:49
  days,
• 1:04:50
  then how can you say that the earth is
• 1:04:53
  as old as it is? Well, I and I don't know. I wasn't there. I'm just going on the evidence I have.
• 1:05:00
  But the bible does not say that God made the earth out of nothing in six days.
• 1:05:05
  That's a popular view
• 1:05:07
  of people that study the bible, that claim to understand the ancient languages,
• 1:05:13
  that in my humble opinion
• 1:05:15
  ought to know better.
• 1:05:17
  The bible doesn't say that anywhere.
• 1:05:20
  The
• 1:05:21
  first verse of the bible says, in the beginning, I will translate it into English.
• 1:05:27
  In the beginning, the popular translation is like King James,
• 1:05:32
  God created the heavens and the earth.
• 1:05:35
  The key word there is
• 1:05:38
  created,
• 1:05:39
  the Hebrew word bara.
• 1:05:42
  Does the does the Hebrew word bara mean
• 1:05:45
  that God created the universe out of nothing?
• 1:05:49
  And the answer is clearly,
• 1:05:51
  unambiguously,
• 1:05:52
  no. It didn't. It's not what that word means.
• 1:05:56
  That word means
• 1:05:58
  that God fashioned
• 1:06:01
  fashioned
• 1:06:02
  the earth. In other words,
• 1:06:04
  he molded it, he fabricated
• 1:06:07
  it, he put it into a special
• 1:06:09
  form.
• 1:06:10
  Mhmm. It doesn't say what that special form is.
• 1:06:13
  It just says he did it.
• 1:06:16
  Okay. We know that much for sure. To say anything else, it's pure speculation.
• 1:06:21
  And our common law tradition and the bible, both the laws of nature and the laws of nature god nature's god are utterly
• 1:06:29
  utterly intolerant
• 1:06:31
  of silly speculation,
• 1:06:32
  and all speculation without evidence
• 1:06:34
  is silly.
• 1:06:36
  And so we don't do that if we're using our heads.
• 1:06:40
  So we say, well, what do we know for sure? Well, we know for sure that God
• 1:06:44
  put the heavens and the earth. It says both.
• 1:06:48
  The the
• 1:06:50
  earth, the
• 1:06:52
  heavens, both of them
• 1:06:54
  into The Us a
• 1:06:55
  form. Doesn't say what. But then the next verse says, and the connector,
• 1:07:01
  wa,
• 1:07:03
  the earth
• 1:07:05
  became
• 1:07:09
  formless
• 1:07:11
  and void.
• 1:07:14
  Formless
• 1:07:15
  and void. Hebrew, Tohu Wavohu.
• 1:07:18
  Sounds ominous, doesn't it? Tohu Wavohu.
• 1:07:22
  Well, what it means is
• 1:07:24
  Tohu wa bohu. It's used also in Jeremiah, the word Tohu.
• 1:07:28
  And God says in Jeremiah, the prophet of Jeremiah,
• 1:07:32
  God did not make the earth
• 1:07:35
  Tohu.
• 1:07:37
  Well, that's easy.
• 1:07:38
  It says that in Genesis chapter one. He's just repeating what Genesis one and two say.
• 1:07:44
  Genesis
• 1:07:45
  one says, God created the heavens and the earth. He he he shaped them.
• 1:07:50
  That word is used to talk about, for example, that Hebrew, that Semitic word. Hebrew is a Semitic tongue.
• 1:07:58
  God uses that word to talk about a a sculptor who would take
• 1:08:04
  a chunk of stone and
• 1:08:06
  fashion something out of it.
• 1:08:08
  That's what God did in creation of the heavens and the earth. But then it says, as sequentially,
• 1:08:14
  constitution,
• 1:08:16
  wow, we call it the wow consecutive.
• 1:08:18
  In Hebrew grammar, it says, the earth became.
• 1:08:21
  It doesn't say the earth was,
• 1:08:23
  that's a verb of being. By the way, there is no verb of being in the Semitic tongues.
• 1:08:29
  Is,
• 1:08:31
  was,
• 1:08:31
  Latin,
• 1:08:32
  exist, things like that are not even part of the consciousness of a Semitic speaker.
• 1:08:38
  He doesn't, you know, in in the West, we people like Descartes,
• 1:08:43
  they got to thinking, he was a French philosopher.
• 1:08:46
  He says,
• 1:08:48
  do I have been, b e I n g?
• 1:08:52
  Do I have existence, to put it in the Latin? We
• 1:08:56
  have that concept in our Western world. They don't have they didn't have and the semitic world didn't even have a word for it. So
• 1:09:04
  they would say they didn't it doesn't say the earth became or the earth was formless and void.
• 1:09:10
  That word for was is not even there. That's fabricated
• 1:09:14
  to make smooth English, but that's not that's even inaccurate. It doesn't say that. It clearly says,
• 1:09:20
  the earth or the the land
• 1:09:24
  the land
• 1:09:25
  became,
• 1:09:26
  happened,
• 1:09:28
  befell,
• 1:09:29
  occurred,
• 1:09:30
  but became fits best there.
• 1:09:33
  Tohu, that means
• 1:09:35
  a wasteland,
• 1:09:36
  a bad land.
• 1:09:38
  You know, bad lands are land that are not land that is not good for anything, but just be it's just there. It doesn't
• 1:09:45
  it doesn't produce anything. The soil is no good. The climate is no good. If you go to the bad lands of New Mexico,
• 1:09:53
  remember the song
• 1:09:54
  out in the West Texas,
• 1:09:56
  town of El Paso. Remember that song? Sure. Yeah. And he said that after he killed that fellow, they were fighting over a girl.
• 1:10:05
  He jumped outside.
• 1:10:07
  I've I found a horse, a good one. I thought that he could run. On his back, I will and I way I did go, crossed to the Badlands Of New Mexico.
• 1:10:17
  He was in El Paso, which is right on the border there. Mhmm. And he Badlands. Well, what's you go to that area of the world, you see Badlands. They're just worthless desert flat, not good for anything. Well, good to hold dinosaur bones.
• 1:10:32
  Well, yeah. Well, it says that the world became
• 1:10:35
  a badland. And that's the way I translate it because that's fundamentally what the word means. Now, Campbell Morgan, he was an Englishman that came to America to teach. He was a
• 1:10:46
  he taught he taught Hebrew and the Old Testament and things like that. G Campbell Morgan, he's gone now.
• 1:10:52
  But he he said and, of course, he said this right after World War one.
• 1:10:57
  He said, to really understand what Tohu Wabohu is,
• 1:11:01
  picture
• 1:11:02
  no man's land between the French and the or the the German
• 1:11:07
  and French and English trenches in World War one. Uh-huh. What was out there? Now I've talked to men that fought on
• 1:11:15
  on the fields of France,
• 1:11:18
  and we had a fellow who was a veterinarian at home, a shirttail cousin. He joined up in World War one with Billy Atkins. His name was we called him Doc Downey. He was a horse doctor, a very important man at one time, of course, in a place that did a lot of farming.
• 1:11:33
  And Doc Downey said that he told me, he said, Brent he was shot, by the way. He was hit with a machine gun slug in the leg and laid on the battlefield for two weeks, and the and the gangrene set in. They took him to a hospital.
• 1:11:49
  And the French doctor said, well, you got two two choices, son.
• 1:11:53
  We'll either,
• 1:11:54
  have to cut your leg off or we could take a chance and put maggots in there and let them eat that infection out. But if we do that, you're taking a chance, the maggots giving you more infection than the gangrene.
• 1:12:06
  And which do you wanna do? And he said, well, I I take the maggots. And so they put the maggots in there, and they saved his leg.
• 1:12:13
  But he had a wound, amazingly, that never healed, and he couldn't he dressed it every morning, and he carried a limp the rest of his life. But doc Downey told me that no man's land between the trenches was
• 1:12:26
  filled with mud.
• 1:12:28
  Everything was blasted away. No vegetation,
• 1:12:32
  the bullets, the explosions. Yep. Dead,
• 1:12:35
  rotting bodies of soldiers.
• 1:12:37
  Yeah. There's nobody to venture out there to get them. You might get shot. Yep. The rats the rats moved in and fed on the bodies. Yeah.
• 1:12:45
  And g Campbell Morgan said,
• 1:12:47
  that's Tohu Wabohu.
• 1:12:49
  Unknown: It's a place There you go.
• 1:12:51
  Unknown: Yeah. You don't wanna go. You don't wanna go there.
• 1:12:54
  So the earth, the land, it says Good analogy,
• 1:12:58
  Unknown: Brent.
• 1:12:59
  Unknown: I yeah. I thought so too. That was g Campbell Morgan. And, of course, those of us well, we've seen pictures and heard people talk and
• 1:13:07
  but toe the the the earth god made the land
• 1:13:11
  and the heavens, but then he focuses immediately
• 1:13:14
  upon the land and he stays focused on the land
• 1:13:18
  throughout the rest of the bible.
• 1:13:20
  I mean, even Jesus Christ said, thy kingdom come, thy will be done on land as it is up in the skies.
• 1:13:27
  So
• 1:13:28
  the earth the land
• 1:13:31
  wasn't
• 1:13:33
  tohu wa bohu, it wasn't
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  no man's land,
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  it became
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  no man's land.
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  Mhmm. And darkness, it says, darkness not light was
• 1:13:45
  upon the face,
• 1:13:47
  the faces of the deep.
• 1:13:50
  And God said
• 1:13:52
  and then it says, and God said,
• 1:13:54
  let there be light,
• 1:13:57
  and there was light.
• 1:14:00
  God speak
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  and things happen. Somebody said something. Go ahead. I'm I'm
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  Unknown: confused. So the earth was without form and void,
• 1:14:10
  and then god moved upon the earth and he created tohu, something that was
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  that was a matter without value or benefit.
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  No. No. Thank you. Formed that into
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  Unknown: Thank you, Paul, for yeah. No. And I wanna make sure I get this clear. This is a sequence
• 1:14:31
  between verses one and two,
• 1:14:33
  and thus the grammar demands a sequence in time.
• 1:14:36
  Verse one says, God
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  shaped, fashioned, fabricated, made
• 1:14:42
  the heavens and the earth.
• 1:14:44
  Next in time,
• 1:14:45
  and the earth became
• 1:14:49
  tohu,
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  wa vohu. It became the earth became a wasteland.
• 1:14:54
  The earth wasn't a wasteland.
• 1:14:56
  If the earth had been a wasteland in verse one,
• 1:15:00
  it could not have become a wasteland in verse two.
• 1:15:04
  Therefore, we know that it was a waste it was not a wasteland in verse one. It became a waste wasteland in verse two, and that's why the prophet Isaiah based upon that text says, God did not create, fabric shape
• 1:15:18
  the the earth, the land.
• 1:15:20
  Tohu. He didn't do that. It became Tohu. Now the question is,
• 1:15:25
  Paul, did you wanna finish saying something? I got excited Well, about what you're
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  Unknown: I just I just wanna say that the natural progression of that is it's a good thing god didn't start with California. Otherwise, he would have
• 1:15:38
  the earth would have made tofu.
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  It would have been made of Oh.
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  Unknown: Yeah. Tofu. Yeah. This
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  is not the Chinese word, but the Hebrew word, the Semitic word, the West Semitic word, tohu.
• 1:15:53
  And it means wasteland void, good for nothing.
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  And when my granddad I use this like to say this when I talk about this. When my great granddad
• 1:16:04
  when I was a little boy
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  in 1959,
• 1:16:09
  my mother, my father,
• 1:16:11
  my other brother who was born, and there were two of us at that time,
• 1:16:15
  and my great grandma and my great grandpa, who and he'd never been more than a 100 miles from home.
• 1:16:21
  We got in an automobile and his he had a brand new Merc, a 1958
• 1:16:26
  Merc.
• 1:16:28
  And we got in that. Dad said, I'll pay for the fuel, Dave. His name was Dave, my great granddad, if you'll provide the car.
• 1:16:36
  And we drove down Route 66 all the way to California.
• 1:16:40
  Oh my goodness. All the way all the way just past Palm Springs to mom's cousin
• 1:16:46
  and my grandma, my great grandma's nephew,
• 1:16:49
  and we stayed there a few weeks. And when we got past
• 1:16:54
  the
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  Texas Panhandle,
• 1:16:57
  we got into New Mexico,
• 1:17:00
  we got over there far enough, and we got into those bad lands, then it got even more intense, of course. My great granddad, who had never been in anything but a springtime jungle where we're from in the Wabash Valley and it's green sometimes all year,
• 1:17:16
  He looked around and he said, you know, out here, it looks like God
• 1:17:20
  finished making the world,
• 1:17:22
  and he had a bunch of stuff left over, and he just dumped it right here.
• 1:17:26
  Just piles of rocks and sand, you know, nothing. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. That's the that's Tohu,
• 1:17:33
  and it's a sequence. So if how long was it? Here's here's the question, and there were a couple of geologists in Scotland. Well, they're the founders of what we call modern geology,
• 1:17:45
  And one of them was named Lydel, l y d e l l, and the other one was named Lydel
• 1:17:52
  and Scott, I believe his name was.
• 1:17:55
  And they were geologists, and the discipline of geology
• 1:17:58
  as an as an organized discipline hadn't happened yet. Well, they invented it, and they invented it saying this,
• 1:18:05
  the processes,
• 1:18:07
  geological processes
• 1:18:09
  of this place we call Earth,
• 1:18:12
  occurred over periods of a
• 1:18:15
  long time,
• 1:18:17
  And if we if we recognize
• 1:18:19
  that,
• 1:18:20
  we can understand why
• 1:18:22
  there are streams
• 1:18:24
  that cut into rock and create canyons.
• 1:18:28
  There are
• 1:18:29
  alluvial fans of alluvial material that wash down out of the mountains and create this alluvium that looks like a fan coming down off the side of a mountain shaped like a fan if you look at it from above.
• 1:18:42
  Well, we will understand why in the Appalachian Mountains,
• 1:18:46
  if otherwise,
• 1:18:47
  we know they were flat
• 1:18:49
  flat formations
• 1:18:50
  of rock are compressed
• 1:18:52
  from the ends and folded up to make these ridge like mountains.
• 1:18:57
  If we we we know when we plant a fence post on the side of the hill, within four or five years, it's leaning downhill because of gravity.
• 1:19:06
  And if we look at geology
• 1:19:08
  like that,
• 1:19:09
  then we'll know
• 1:19:11
  we'll be able to know something and maybe know why things are the way they are and we can we'll we'll know, for example, when you see shale and you and you drill and you see it under the ground,
• 1:19:22
  then you know that there was water there that laid down the shale and the sandstone and in that order
• 1:19:28
  and the clay that turns to shale with pressure
• 1:19:31
  and that peat moss or peat
• 1:19:34
  turns to lignite, turns to anthracite,
• 1:19:37
  turns to diamonds,
• 1:19:39
  that'll all make sense.
• 1:19:41
  And that's what they said.
• 1:19:42
  Now the fundamentalist Christians attacked Lydell and Scott and say that they were godless men that invented what they call the gap theory.
• 1:19:51
  And
• 1:19:52
  they were not, number one, they were Christian men,
• 1:19:56
  bible believing Christian men,
• 1:19:59
  and I dare say they were more perceptive
• 1:20:02
  than a lot of fundamentalist
• 1:20:04
  Christians. And I these fundamentalist Christians are my friends. I'm not I just say at that point they're falling into the trap of being misled by by people that ought to know better.
• 1:20:16
  That
• 1:20:18
  there's nothing in the Bible that says the earth is not very, very old.
• 1:20:23
  And we don't know how much,
• 1:20:26
  and we don't know for sure all we don't know the Bible, the first two verses of the Bible tell us pretty much what I said and to say anything else is speculation,
• 1:20:35
  not fact. And without evidence, you you shouldn't say it.
• 1:20:39
  But we know that the earth was created in such a way that it was properly created the way God wanted it, whatever it was,
• 1:20:47
  and then something happened.
• 1:20:49
  Now I had a teacher one time in school that said he he was of the opinion that between Genesis one and Genesis two
• 1:20:57
  is when God hurled Satan and a third of his
• 1:21:02
  of the a third of the
• 1:21:06
  agents of God called angels
• 1:21:08
  hurled them from the skies,
• 1:21:11
  the Bible says they landed on the earth, on the land.
• 1:21:15
  And
• 1:21:16
  this fellow said it seems that that coincides
• 1:21:20
  with an awe and then when that happened, of course, that
• 1:21:23
  that polluted
• 1:21:25
  the land because we had an evil influence here.
• 1:21:28
  And of course, the devil himself, he was a person without a body as
• 1:21:34
  I said last week, and all of the demons are persons without bodies. They are spiritual wickedness that had been in high places.
• 1:21:43
  They're down here on earth, and they're seeking the bodies of living creatures
• 1:21:48
  such as a snake,
• 1:21:50
  a reptilian,
• 1:21:52
  and they enter those creatures to manifest,
• 1:21:55
  to interact with people,
• 1:21:58
  Adam's
• 1:21:59
  race,
• 1:22:01
  and that's what happened in the garden. Now that was that was on some evidence. Some
• 1:22:06
  The Bible is a book purely,
• 1:22:09
  a 100%,
• 1:22:10
  it's evidence. That's what it is.
• 1:22:13
  Recorded
• 1:22:14
  evidence.
• 1:22:16
  The testimony
• 1:22:18
  of God himself, the Bible calls it, and poured through the personalities
• 1:22:22
  of men while preserving their personalities,
• 1:22:26
  using their personalities
• 1:22:28
  and their vocabularies,
• 1:22:30
  whether it was limited or great, and using their consciences,
• 1:22:35
  God poured. And the Bible used the word uses a Hebrew word that means to pour.
• 1:22:39
  He poured his word, his truth through them.
• 1:22:42
  And they,
• 1:22:44
  by an act of their volition, wrote down,
• 1:22:48
  he was superintending
• 1:22:49
  as he promised to do the record of his testimony.
• 1:22:54
  And all of the Bible is his testimony,
• 1:22:57
  and Jesus Christ
• 1:22:58
  calls it his testimony,
• 1:23:01
  his evidence.
• 1:23:03
  And all evidence is the testimony of words.
• 1:23:06
  All evidence, even in our courts.
• 1:23:08
  Nothing means anything.
• 1:23:10
  Nothing you try to introduce into evidence, whether it be a smoking gun in a murder case,
• 1:23:16
  a a document,
• 1:23:18
  a written document,
• 1:23:19
  it's meaningless
• 1:23:21
  and is not evidence
• 1:23:22
  until somebody gets on the witness stand,
• 1:23:25
  substantiates
• 1:23:27
  what it is,
• 1:23:28
  tells what it is, and by firsthand
• 1:23:31
  factual perception of their eyes, their ears,
• 1:23:34
  their their senses says, yes,
• 1:23:37
  that is what it looks like it is. That photograph
• 1:23:41
  is,
• 1:23:42
  I took the picture myself, it's a representation
• 1:23:45
  of what I saw with my own eyes. So all evidence, never forget this, all evidence
• 1:23:51
  is of words.
• 1:23:53
  It is testimonial.
• 1:23:54
  And the bible and the record of it stands. A court record, of course, in our common law tradition,
• 1:24:00
  is a court of record record, it's word for word,
• 1:24:04
  and the Bible is that kind of a record according to Jesus Christ,
• 1:24:09
  according to the record itself,
• 1:24:11
  according to all of the tests
• 1:24:14
  we can apply to it
• 1:24:16
  of evidence that the Bible provides and the law of God,
• 1:24:20
  and according to all the tests of our common law tradition
• 1:24:24
  outside of the Bible that we've learned through the laws of nature.
• 1:24:29
  The Bible is
• 1:24:30
  not just reliable,
• 1:24:32
  it is an overwhelming
• 1:24:33
  reliable
• 1:24:34
  testimony.
• 1:24:35
  People say, well, how do you know that's what happened in Genesis one two? You weren't there. That's right. I wasn't there.
• 1:24:43
  But I have the evidence,
• 1:24:46
  the testimony
• 1:24:48
  that has never been, never at any point
• 1:24:52
  shown
• 1:24:53
  to be wrong even a little bit, shown to have communicated
• 1:24:58
  an error of fact. Never.
• 1:25:01
  And so I've been looking at it pretty close all my life. Well, for now
• 1:25:08
  pushing five decades pretty intensely
• 1:25:11
  and I don't I don't apologize about it. Yeah, real intensely, I'll give my testimony of what I found in it and what I continue to find
• 1:25:20
  is that I've never found an error in it, any contradiction either.
• 1:25:24
  Contradiction, two things that cannot be true at the same time cannot be true.
• 1:25:30
  It's not possible they be true at the same time and in the same relationship.
• 1:25:35
  Unknown: No such no such thing as contradictions
• 1:25:38
  according to Anne Rand. I believe she's correct.
• 1:25:41
  Unknown: Well, no. They're a contradict you can say a contradiction.
• 1:25:45
  Mhmm. Anne
• 1:25:46
  was a pagan, you know. Yes. I know. Think she was a Rothschild concubine at one time. Oh, yeah. She was pretty fouled up as a soup sandwich.
• 1:25:56
  Mhmm. But she but people like that are good
• 1:26:00
  at
• 1:26:01
  capturing,
• 1:26:03
  learning to act and capture
• 1:26:05
  the popular culture. That's what Hollywood is, for example. Of course. Or make it or make it.
• 1:26:11
  Well, manufacture
• 1:26:13
  a false one. Yeah.
• 1:26:14
  That's what politics is. That's what Hollywood is. That's what the rock and roll industry has always been, music industry.
• 1:26:22
  It's we wanna put you in fantasy land and make you think it's real. Yeah. They're masters.
• 1:26:26
  Unknown: They're masters at it. The whole racist.
• 1:26:30
  Unknown: But you've got to yeah. You've gotta be able to capture
• 1:26:33
  the popular culture,
• 1:26:35
  which in America has always been Christianized.
• 1:26:38
  And if you can capture it, you can make a lot of money, and that's what Anne Rand was. So what a lot of what she said was true,
• 1:26:45
  but keep in mind that she had a a drop of strychnine poison in all of it.
• 1:26:51
  Unknown: Well, I
• 1:26:53
  possibly.
• 1:26:54
  I've never read her stuff. I just know about her.
• 1:26:57
  Unknown: Well, I've read her most famous book is
• 1:27:00
  Unknown: Atlas Shrugged.
• 1:27:01
  Unknown: Yeah. Shrugged and yeah. Oh, yeah. But it's empty as a blown bladder. And when you don't have the spirit of god behind what you're saying
• 1:27:10
  and you're you're a fake as her culture is. You know, when Jesus Christ said to her culture,
• 1:27:17
  he said, talking to the phariseites,
• 1:27:21
  he said, oy,
• 1:27:23
  the Hebrew word oy, which means irreversible
• 1:27:26
  doom.
• 1:27:27
  It's all over but to cry and you don't get a second chance, you're hellbound.
• 1:27:32
  And he said that to the Phariseites.
• 1:27:34
  And he said it over and over and over. And the phrase was this. This is the record. He said, woe, we translate woe,
• 1:27:43
  woe, irreversible doom unto you,
• 1:27:46
  scribes,
• 1:27:47
  that's legal beagles,
• 1:27:49
  legal beagles I call them,
• 1:27:51
  and pharicites,
• 1:27:54
  actors.
• 1:27:55
  Scribes and pharicites,
• 1:27:57
  actors.
• 1:27:58
  Yes. No. Hypocrites.
• 1:27:59
  Hypocrites.
• 1:28:01
  Well, the word hypokratos,
• 1:28:02
  the Greek word hypokratos
• 1:28:03
  was their word for a stage actor. Yes. It's no mystery. It's not complicated.
• 1:28:09
  What is a stage actor? Well, the Greek word is hypokratos.
• 1:28:13
  Oh, what's a hypokratos?
• 1:28:15
  When I was in politics, Roger,
• 1:28:18
  Charlton Heston was very active for the promotion of second amendment rights.
• 1:28:25
  And he was invited to come to speak at a fundraiser
• 1:28:29
  for the guy running in for US senate.
• 1:28:32
  And court of course, that helped all of us. You know? Of course. We were all there. The people who were putting the fundraiser on asked me to introduce
• 1:28:40
  Charlton.
• 1:28:41
  Well, I was just humbled all to pieces, as you can imagine.
• 1:28:45
  We're talking about Moses here. Yeah. Right.
• 1:28:48
  Right. Well, what?
• 1:28:50
  Unknown: Right. How do you introduce Moses?
• 1:28:52
  Unknown: Yeah, and so I was pretty excited. I went down to the library, we used to have the old we had an old Carnegie Library in this little town,
• 1:29:00
  and
• 1:29:01
  I found I discovered
• 1:29:03
  his most recently written autobiography.
• 1:29:07
  And so I read it.
• 1:29:09
  And I always kinda liked the guy, and I had been interested when I you know, you got Moses, he played Moses, then The Big Country, that was a famous movie. Mhmm. The most the greatest show on earth with Jimmy Stewart. He was in that. And then he played Michelangelo,
• 1:29:25
  and on and on and on it goes.
• 1:29:27
  Well, I was trying to discern something flattering to say about him, and I did like this movie he made called Al Sieber.
• 1:29:35
  Al Sieber was the man he played
• 1:29:38
  the part of Al Sieber, who was a army scout, who orchestrated the capture of Geronimo.
• 1:29:44
  But then Al, just before the capture, after he orchestrated it all for the general, the officer there,
• 1:29:50
  Al got shot in the hip by an
• 1:29:53
  Apache scout who got mad at him because he promised him a bottle of whiskey
• 1:29:58
  if he'd do a certain thing.
• 1:30:00
  Now, one thing about these Apaches, they were pretty brutal,
• 1:30:04
  But if if if
• 1:30:06
  they said they were gonna do something, they made a deal with you and you promised them something, they'd do it.
• 1:30:12
  Well, that was true. Mhmm. And if they didn't do it, and the penalty was death, and it was for them,
• 1:30:19
  they'd just stand still while you shot them. And Al Sieber had a lot of them shot, and then never balked. They were a tough bunch.
• 1:30:26
  One of them thought that Al had promised him something that he
• 1:30:30
  and by the way, Al Sieber was a German immigrant from Missouri.
• 1:30:34
  That's why he was good friends with Tom Horn.
• 1:30:38
  Tom Horn was a young fella, he was his family were of German immigrant descent that had settled on a farm in Missouri.
• 1:30:46
  Well, Tom had come out West as a young man working for the
• 1:30:50
  working for the stagecoaches,
• 1:30:52
  and he took him on as his kind of like his student. And Tom learned the Apache tongue, he learned
• 1:30:59
  how to track real good, he was just quite a fellow. Well, Tom ended up with the honors of capturing Geronimo because Al got hit in the hip with a big
• 1:31:10
  slug of crippled him the rest of his life.
• 1:31:14
  Brutal world, boy. Brutal. What people went through to try to Okay. Hey. Bring the the land Here's bulletin.
• 1:31:23
  Unknown: It still is.
• 1:31:24
  Unknown: It's a good point, Roger. Nothing's changed. You know, the the only way they captured Geronimo was the was it General Crook? I believe that was his name. Or, no, it maybe was Miles, whichever one it was.
• 1:31:37
  He said, look. I'm tired of trying to capture engines with, white men. White men don't have what it takes to capture engines, especially Apache.
• 1:31:46
  So what he ended up doing was he said, we'll go to the engines.
• 1:31:49
  We'll find the ones that hate the Apaches, because the engines all hate each other, always have, you know, the different tribes. And the Kioway, the Apache and the Kioway have been trying to murder murder each other for a few centuries.
• 1:32:02
  So he got the Kioway to come work for the US army as scouts,
• 1:32:07
  and then then he found a few Apaches that were disgruntled, and they got them. And that worked. That worked. They they were able to do it, and they tracked them down.
• 1:32:15
  Unknown: Because they knew them. See? They knew their game. That that the tribe they brought, they were those ones that were the astute trackers. Right? Oh. I mentioned them. I mentioned them on the show here in Skyway.
• 1:32:27
  Yes. I I think that's right.
• 1:32:30
  Yeah. I wasn't there. I just know what I read, Corey. Well, me too. And what I'm doing is drawing an analogy between this and our traditional enemies because that's what they do. It's like the kiwi would would would stalk up the edge of a hill, look over and see the cavalry,
• 1:32:47
  and then they turn around
• 1:32:49
  and back out with a brush
• 1:32:52
  Unknown: and brush their footprints out. Oh, that's That's what our enemies do. Right there. Yeah. That's what's axiomatic, but these these Apache and Conaway, according
• 1:33:04
  according to what I've read in newspapers
• 1:33:07
  of the time and things like that.
• 1:33:10
  Unknown: It's a little We get old classical music from somewhere. I love it, but is it intentional?
• 1:33:16
  Unknown: Yeah. Brent's gotta talk about commonlawyer.com
• 1:33:19
  Unknown: before we run out of And I've got something I wanna talk to Brent about too, so let's combine both of those, and we'll have a few minutes left. Maybe we can open the phones.
• 1:33:29
  Alright. What are Let's mess. You wanna get this, documentary on, Martin Short. You see this Martin Short thing called life is short? Get that documentary.
• 1:33:38
  You'll learn what
• 1:33:40
  a man like Martin Short went through suffering the death of his mother,
• 1:33:45
  his father,
• 1:33:46
  and his brother all within the same year. And a greater comedian
• 1:33:51
  you've never seen. Okay? Regardless of, you know, individual taste, it's kinda like wine, but Martin Short.
• 1:34:00
  Unknown: Okay. Please tell me. Don't wait. Don't go away. No. Please please tell me. No. He already went away. He went away. Oh, he already went away. He's not welcome here.
• 1:34:11
  Unknown: So Oh, he's not? Oh. Oh. One of the few times in my whole career I've had to ban somebody from the show, Brent. I'm sorry to say. Oh, well, how did he doing it. Hate doing it.
• 1:34:22
  Oh, well, no way. I'll We've talked about it before. He's a disruptor. He comes on here. He has something nice here. He's
• 1:34:29
  Unknown: still listening.
• 1:34:30
  Unknown: Evidently, trying to get back in our good graces and snuck in, but he just generally, when he comes on here, quite disruptive, and I'm just not gonna have it. Yeah. And keep in mind, folks, just to review First Amendment law here,
• 1:34:44
  Unknown: freedom of speech freedom of speech is
• 1:34:49
  only the the constitution of The United States only guarantees freedom of speech,
• 1:34:54
  where the government tries to limit it. And we're not the government. We can limit all the speech we want here. This is our That's a good point. Thank you. Our prime yeah. The the First Amendment only applies when it the freedom of speech clause to limit
• 1:35:07
  what the government does to free to limit speech. And if somebody wants to limit speech in their home You mean like their radio platform
• 1:35:15
  Unknown: You mean like send
• 1:35:17
  would that be like sending the secretary of war to an to a an election? I
• 1:35:22
  Unknown: I don't know how to think that one through.
• 1:35:25
  Unknown: No. It's it's against a piece of legislation called the Hatch Act, evidently,
• 1:35:29
  Whether mister Massey and his team are gonna decide to contest it or not, we'll see. Don't know that that decision
• 1:35:36
  has been made yet, but like I said earlier, life is full of every one of you have had this happen. Something terrible happens,
• 1:35:43
  and you you you it's grievous on everything else, and yet it turns out down the line to be the very best thing that could ever happen to you. So I've had it happen. I'm sure all of you have too.
• 1:35:55
  Brent,
• 1:35:56
  before you launch off on Common Lawyer, this is for you. You got you got you you and missus Brent produced nine children,
• 1:36:04
  of which I know one, the eldest, as you know. Yeah. And you've got how many grandchildren?
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  Unknown: I I saw I saw over 22, but I'd I I don't remember because
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  Unknown: I can't keep track of when they Yeah. Well, that's I can see that. I can see about numbers and how that happens.
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  Do a lot of them live close?
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  Do what? Do do a lot of them and their families live close to you and Sue?
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  Unknown: Some are and, yeah, some are, but some aren't. The and our our the roads are good, and it's easy to travel, and our culture has changed that way, as you know. Okay. So no. Well, they're not just all hanging around. Matter of fact yeah.
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  Unknown: Go ahead. Well, I just wanna ask you because I know you don't keep up with the news.
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  Have you heard about this lone star tick infestation?
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  What's it called? Lone Star tick? Yes, sir. Are you aware of what's going on? No. I didn't know about this. That's exactly why I wanted to bring this up. Okay? It's called the spotted Texas tick or something. Uh-huh. They have weaponized that tick,
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  and they have put a August Gauss or whatever the it is similar to
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  the
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  thing that was going around with the Lyme disease, which is nothing but a slightly
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  adjusted
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  syphilis barricade,
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  by the way. It's similar to that, but it injects
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  a substance when it bites you that basically
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  without any scientific
• 1:37:34
  stuff. It makes you allergic to meat, and it can kill you.
• 1:37:38
  Okay? Oh. Now they've been flying over the country and dropping boxes
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  with no telling how many millions of these ticks,
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  even in places they've never been before.
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  K? Uh-huh. We got pictures of them on the ground that people won't even touch the little container because there are just millions of them on it. K? So a lot over the country except for the tofu lands where they wouldn't make it anyway.
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  So Yeah.
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  I saw an interview of an old surveyor,
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  and he said they asked him, how do you in your job, how do you keep away from ticks and chiggers?
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  And he said an old sold old sold surveyor
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  taught me how. It's very inexpensive.
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  You need to tell all your family about this because this is serious. K? I mean, it's real serious.
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  You go to the tractor store and you get a bag of sulfur.
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  Teeth, ticks, and fleas absolutely
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  detest
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  sulfur.
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  It's cheap.
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  You go get a sock
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  and put sulfur in that sock and then tie the end,
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  and every time you're going out, you beat your legs and feet and shoes with that sulfur ball,
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  and you won't have any of these things on you. They they
• 1:38:54
  evidently almost run from it. Okay? Inexpensive,
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  please tell your family. Okay?
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  Unknown: Uh-huh.
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  Wow. I never heard of that. I thought you said Texas tick. I thought you were talking about everything else the Texans talk about down there. They they say it's bigger than everything else. Well, I'm not sure that it's about the size of a tick, but it's real it can be very deadly.
• 1:39:17
  Unknown: I I mean, can you go imagine now? Of course, hold it. Pfizer's coming to the rescue. They've got a vaccine for it. They had taken it off the market because it only achieved so much sales, and now they're bringing it back. So you three or four of their good vaccines,
• 1:39:32
  no doubt loaded with MNRA and everything else they can put in there, and you can probably, maybe, hopefully, get taken care of. But the best way is just to take this simple remedy,
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  make it part of you, your routine.
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  The moms instruct the children if they're not stay at home moms, when you're going out and playing in the woods, in in the grass, whatever you do with the animals, whatever you're doing, and do this with your animals too.
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  And they won't have this tick on them, but there's already
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  there's no telling how many millions these things are. Of course, they're biting the animals too, the deer and all all the other animals.
• 1:40:08
  So I just I know you don't watch the news. You got a big family. I know you love them, and they love you. And this is a serious threat out there that's easily remedied. I just wanted to tell you personally about it. I mentioned it yesterday on the air, so probably most of the folks on the air have heard that too, but that that good cheaper there's another thing called
• 1:40:28
  cedar side
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  evidently from the they they make it from cedar somehow.
• 1:40:34
  And you spray yourself with that, you'll get the same results, but, of course, it costs a little money. Don't know how much. Don't know any of the specifics here, but I just wanna make sure you, with your extended family, know about that.
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  Unknown: Well, thanks, Roger. I'm gonna look if I type in Texas tick, I'll find out.
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  Unknown: Think it's called the spotted Texas tick or the Texas spotted tick. Well, just put ticks in, man. You'll get all kinds of stories. Lone tick.
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  Lone Star tick. There you go. Thank you, Paul. Man. Makes you wonder, yeah, who's doing all this? Like, they Oh, it doesn't make me wonder at all. Bill Gates is vocal about it. Oh, he is? Hell well, yeah. And he's also doing the mosquitoes. You don't know about the mosquitoes either, do you? Flying syringes?
• 1:41:17
  Unknown: Mhmm.
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  Unknown: I'll be there. Well, they got them all souped up, and there's pictures of them dropping swarms of them out of a plane over Florida, and then people getting stuff like dingy and all kinds of other stuff that hadn't been there or never or in years. So, yeah, this is the one of the vectors of attacks is taking Wow. Taking
• 1:41:38
  nature, turning it against us, and using it as a weapon.
• 1:41:41
  Unknown: Well, we had one of our listeners.
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  If they're listening, they'll know that I'm talking about them. I don't mention names, but
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  one of them said to me, him and his wife talking to me,
• 1:41:56
  and said, when I finally figured out
• 1:42:00
  during COVID
• 1:42:02
  that the government is trying to kill me,
• 1:42:06
  that changed everything. Yep.
• 1:42:08
  And it's true. Aladdin, you said this earlier. We live in a dangerous world, and if you're not willing to deal with it, and only by the spirit of God can you even see it,
• 1:42:19
  it's ugly, friends, but God says
• 1:42:22
  that he will protect you. That's
• 1:42:24
  Unknown: what he promises. This couple I had dinner with last night. He's 71,
• 1:42:28
  very successful dentist,
• 1:42:30
  whole career,
• 1:42:31
  loves it, still works three days a week. They're like little lovebirds,
• 1:42:36
  and she we talked about it at dinner. She said, Roger, if you'd come up to Dean and try to tell him this stuff, he'd called you a wacko nut. But because we got involved
• 1:42:47
  with each other, he'll listen to me,
• 1:42:49
  and I was able to open his eyes. And here this guy is in his late
• 1:42:54
  sixties
• 1:42:55
  finding out he's been lied to his whole life.
• 1:42:58
  That that that some people can't handle that.
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  Unknown: Roger, I'm gonna I'm gonna
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  take a little bit of issue with what you said. Okay. That's fine. I believe I believe God
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  opens the eyes, of course.
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  It's and he uses fellas like you to get the job done.
• 1:43:17
  So I try to keep in mind that that you didn't open his eyes, but God did. Yeah. Well, yeah, through his wife, through his new sweetie.
• 1:43:25
  Unknown: Yeah. I I get it. Pillow talk pillow talk can be very effective.
• 1:43:30
  What's that? Pillow talk can be very effective. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:43:38
  Unknown: Was that, Paul? Don't forget to talk about commonlawyer.com.
• 1:43:42
  Unknown: Okay. Yeah. Well, enough of that. I just wanted you to know about ticks. And since I figured you didn't, since you didn't, I had to go and do an explanation.
• 1:43:49
  Don't know if the audience gotten some new audience and hadn't heard that, hadn't been keeping up with things. This is something you better damn well pay attention to, unless you just wanna eat vegetables and stuff the rest of your life
• 1:44:01
  and potentially die. It's potentially fatal, by the way.
• 1:44:05
  Unknown: Well, thank you, Roger. I am gonna look, and thank you, Paul, for breaking in
• 1:44:11
  and allowing me to say, because people are
• 1:44:14
  saying by this time, some people are saying, who is this guy?
• 1:44:18
  Either saying he sounds weird. He's a fast man.
• 1:44:21
  Yeah. Hell no. I don't think they look at it that way. They just say, well, who is he?
• 1:44:26
  And so this is Roger Sales, by the way, and not this, the other fellow there. I'm there. Yeah. I own up to it. Roger Sales is I'm an anti I'm a publicly admitted anti semitub.
• 1:44:39
  Oh, I don't Roger, I don't thank you. Listen, Roger. An anti Semite to somebody who doesn't like descendants of scale.
• 1:44:47
  Unknown: I know. I I know. You. I'm using it in their vernacular. I'm I'm turning the I'm turning it around and throwing it right back at them. Well, that's right. And they said they asked Thomas Massey during this elections
• 1:44:59
  Unknown: when
• 1:45:00
  Unknown: The CBN I know the I know the interview you're talking about. CBS reporter.
• 1:45:04
  Unknown: Yeah. And it's and he well, of course, I won't second guess his political method, but he said,
• 1:45:11
  I'm not, but why wouldn't he say, well, what and I would say, I should say it this way, I would say, well, define an anti Semite. I have a lot of friends that are Arabs. That's right. They're anti Semites, and they're Christians, by the way. I had a fellow telling me that on the radio one time, he was a Luther, and he said, I I read a fellow, a Jewish fellow called him an anti Semite on the show. I was on the show at the time.
• 1:45:36
  He said, don't do that to me, friend. You're not gonna pull that on me. He said, I got a lot of Arab Christian friends There you go. In Palestine.
• 1:45:45
  Yeah. That was that was fifteen years ago, Roger. Yeah. Right.
• 1:45:49
  Unknown: So I know you're not. But anyway Some people knew. Some people understood. Go ahead. This is Brent.
• 1:45:55
  Unknown: Brent Allen Winters commonlawyer.com.
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• 1:48:12
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• 1:48:23
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• 1:48:26
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• 1:48:31
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• 1:48:35
  and that's what I try to use. I mean, the King James Bible has a lot of Latin based words in it that have crept into And the reason for that, of course, is the translators of the 54 translators of the King James were educated
• 1:48:50
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• 1:48:52
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• 1:49:00
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• 1:49:05
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• 1:49:11
  Therefore, Latin they knew well, and whatever a man or woman knows well, that's what he uses.
• 1:49:16
  And so there are a lot of Latin words in the King all translations of the Bible. I said, I'm not gonna do that.
• 1:49:22
  I'm gonna get rid of these Latin words. They've plagued Christianity.
• 1:49:26
  They've plagued our understanding of God for so long. The Anglo Saxon tongue is short,
• 1:49:32
  hard hitting, punchy,
• 1:49:34
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• 1:49:35
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• 1:49:37
  Well, that's my policy, and I've had to work at that because
• 1:49:42
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• 1:49:46
  the Brits do on the other side of the pond. They've got a pure English. And I don't like it. I don't like it. The Latin words are long and laborious,
• 1:49:55
  like I like to say. You know, in Latin, if you're talking about your intestinal tract, in Latin, it's called intestines.
• 1:50:03
  That's a that's a Latin word, intestines. But
• 1:50:06
  in in Anglo Saxon English,
• 1:50:09
  it's just one syllable instead of three.
• 1:50:12
  Guts.
• 1:50:12
  Unknown: Yep. Guts.
• 1:50:14
  Unknown: Now that's a punchy word.
• 1:50:16
  I like that word. Uh-huh. You know, we say in our in American, hey, man, has that guy got guts or not? I don't know if I ever hear that word that I don't think of that commercial the Dems ran against Barry Gaul. We're losing it. Yeah. We're losing the punchiness
• 1:50:31
  because we want to sound intellectual,
• 1:50:33
  see. And we want to learn all the big words and that's not what God wants. The Bible is not written. The Hebrew tongue is not like that, and neither is the Koine Greek of the New Testament. The Koine Greek of the New Testament is the sailor's speech, the merchant's language. It is, by the way, in his language. Greek
• 1:50:52
  of the Roman Empire.
• 1:50:54
  Very rough, very low, very very punchy. You know, the word that translated intestines
• 1:51:00
  in the Greek New Testament is a word that is onomatopoeia.
• 1:51:05
  That means it sounds like what it's talking about. Uh-huh. Right? The knock of the door, the buzz of the bee, the hit of Well, the the word for intestines in the New Testament is, listen to this word,
• 1:51:19
  splagchnaw.
• 1:51:22
  Splagchnaw.
• 1:51:24
  And
• 1:51:26
  it's an imitation of the sound
• 1:51:28
  of guts hitting the bucket when you gut an animal.
• 1:51:32
  Yikes. You you hang a hog up a
• 1:51:34
  calf or a deer,
• 1:51:36
  and you split his belly open, and then you finally split the
• 1:51:41
  membrane
• 1:51:42
  open of the muscles, the abdominal muscles. We used to do this.
• 1:51:46
  And you'd have a big tub down there under the critter, you got him hung up by his back legs, and the guts just flop out. Yeah. And with a big animal, that's a lot of guts.
• 1:51:56
  You
• 1:51:59
  Unknown: know? What? This earthly sound. Well, what's that about? Hear you're talking about Indians earlier. I heard a guy, big military guy, fills in for Alex occasionally I can't. Uh-huh. Remember his name, but he's read a lot of these Indian books. He's in Texas. And he said something that blew me away. You know? You say, you gotta be willing to fight like the Indians to fight them. Right?
• 1:52:20
  They it was so hard to catch them because they were always going. They wouldn't cook their food. They ate everything wrong because they didn't want a fire there.
• 1:52:29
  And what they would do with their donkeys, they carry donkeys with them.
• 1:52:34
  Uh-huh. And they would kill the donkey,
• 1:52:37
  gut it,
• 1:52:38
  split open the stomach,
• 1:52:41
  and eat what was in the stomach.
• 1:52:44
  Unknown: Yeah. These weren't what you call they didn't have any Christian sensibilities of what they ate. Yeah. I mean, even eating the flesh of a
• 1:52:51
  jackass, a donkey, or burrow, the bible forbids,
• 1:52:56
  and horses, by the way, because it's dangerous, that's why. Uh-huh. But when you're starving, I mean, that's different. The Bible gives leave for things like that, but Yep. Yeah. Well They they would find mud. They wouldn't find water, they'd find mud,
• 1:53:10
  Unknown: and they would eat mud to extract the water from the mud. Yeah. Well, they know how to I wanna clarify I
• 1:53:17
  Unknown: wanna clarify something that this whole track of conversation
• 1:53:20
  of disgusting foods started with tofu. So just make a note of that. Sorry, Paul. I know it's right before lunch too. I mean, I'm sorry.
• 1:53:30
  Unknown: Paul, it wasn't tofu. I said it was tohu.
• 1:53:34
  Unknown: Tohu. But but I said tofu.
• 1:53:37
  Unknown: I know.
• 1:53:38
  Yeah. I know. It's been the word Tasmanian word association hour again. Lives up to his reputation today.
• 1:53:45
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  Unknown: It what? What's that, Roger? It's the tortoise
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  Unknown: Thank you, Paul. Okay. Listen. If there's anybody in the audience who got a question or a comment, you got a couple of minutes. We've, of course, eaten up the hour. That's how much Brent and I enjoyed this, the two hours we spend together. So if you're one of those folks got a question, comment, observation, analysis,
• 1:55:18
  a 6 will get you here. We'd love to hear you.
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  Unknown: And your name does not start with f.
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  If your name does not start with f, press 6 and speak up. That's
• 1:55:32
  Unknown: a real conundrum for me, this guy.
• 1:55:35
  Really is.
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  Okay. Well, listen. Brent will be on his
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• 1:55:48
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• 1:55:52
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• 1:55:56
  So, anyway, whether you're with us tomorrow or soon or next week, we'll see you soon. Love you. I wanna ask them. Can I ask some? Okay. Of course, Christian. Go ahead.
• 1:56:10
  Unknown: Well, you got a voice recognition.
• 1:56:13
  I had to ask you and Brent. You know, I kinda I kinda feel stupid.
• 1:56:19
  I am stupid
• 1:56:20
  because
• 1:56:21
  I had this paperwork in on the on the paying the debt because I had conviction that
• 1:56:27
  that I should do, like you said, in common law, you know, is that and, Brent,
• 1:56:33
  about paying
• 1:56:34
  paying this debt that I got charged off of by the Citibank that I had a loan. And the thing is
• 1:56:42
  now they oh, yeah. I've got all my paperwork in and stuff, and now
• 1:56:47
  they want us I said, well, you know, you kinda told me about just go ahead and make an agreement and see what they'll do.
• 1:56:56
  And
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  because,
• 1:56:58
  you know, the debt's there, and just because I'm a a national now, that then it's it's after the fact. But, anyway, what I'm saying is trying to do convicted about
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  what God wants me to do. It should like, if I owe Brent Winters or or you
• 1:57:14
  a debt, and then you go get an attorney
• 1:57:17
  like this this debt did.
• 1:57:20
  And we had quite a conversation the other day with Julie and everybody
• 1:57:24
  about it. And, you know,
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• 1:57:30
  and
• 1:57:31
  to
• 1:57:32
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• 1:57:35
  Common law, if I harm somebody, I'm gonna need to go ahead and pay the debt. So now they got my so I tried to make an agreement with them. They said, sure. How about a $100 a month?
• 1:57:45
  But I'm gonna have to pay the full amount of the debt, which was $2,800.
• 1:57:50
  So now
• 1:57:52
  they asked me, you can do a portal, you know, and and we'll get an agreement real quick. I said, no. I said, I don't wanna do I don't know how to do a portal. Okay? So so I
• 1:58:05
  said they so then they asked me for my
• 1:58:08
  my routing number,
• 1:58:10
  and they're gonna send me an agreement. Routing number and my bank number. Now I'm scared. Now I'm scared. No. I've already Don't do that. You give them the routing number. They will take they will drain you in and start.
• 1:58:22
  Unknown: Yeah. You lean levy garnishment seizure,
• 1:58:25
  Unknown: don't do it. Tell them you will send them a money order for a $100 every month.
• 1:58:31
  And
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  that's it.
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  Don't give me a routing number or any banking information whatsoever.
• 1:58:37
  They will use it, and they will drain your account.
• 1:58:41
  Unknown: Well, and I've done I've already done well, I haven't agreed to it except that you're supposed to get a letter and sign it. You know? But what about is it too late?
• 1:58:53
  Unknown: Well, have you got bill have you got bills to pay?
• 1:58:57
  Unknown: Oh gosh. Yeah. I got that tax bill to pay for my man.
• 1:59:01
  Unknown: Well, pay pay your bills. That's what that money's in the bank for, ain't it?
• 1:59:07
  Unknown: Yeah. That I mean understand the spirit of what you're doing, Christian, but here's my question.
• 1:59:12
  Do you is this a credit card debt or a loan?
• 1:59:17
  Unknown: Credit card debt.
• 1:59:18
  Unknown: Okay. Well, you know, it's a a debt you appeared to have you since or been able to prove you think any kind of fraud that should negotiate that? You could
• 1:59:29
  oh, like, we're about to end the program.
• 1:59:32
  Hold on. We're gonna continue this little discussion with Christian.
• 1:59:35
  In just a minute, we'll, wherever you are, whoever you are, we'll, hopefully, one of us, Brent or myself,
• 1:59:42
  will come in contact and see you again soon. Love you. Ciao.
• 1:59:47
  Okay. Have you been able to ascertain any kind of fraud involved in this? I'm kinda in Brent's camp here.
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  Unknown: Well,
• 1:59:55
  that's that's what we were doing.
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  But, you know,
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  I'm going to a jay JP court, and I've been I've been just,
• 2:00:06
  you know, not I've been pro se. Okay? So I just, you know, I kinda started getting kind of
• 2:00:13
  freaked out about it and
• 2:00:15
  going to going to court. You know, it's like you said,
• 2:00:18
  at all cost, keep out of court if
• 2:00:21
  you can. And so my suggestion.
• 2:00:25
  So what I did is I went and made an agreement on the darn phone, and they said, well, well, they found out that my my son been in the hospital for almost two years, almost died.
• 2:00:36
  But, you know, that that's where I got distracted on this debt.
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  So
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  it's just like, okay. Now I'm fighting an attorney
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  that that I don't
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  he's he's supposedly had sent an affidavit.
• 2:00:49
  Well, he did send an affidavit of of the bill of sale to them that he the charge the debt was charged off from the bank for Tractor Supply.
• 2:00:59
  Okay? So
• 2:01:00
  so, you know, Larry had some input on this too. That that's what they do. That's what these debt collectors do, and you just can't hardly beat them. But,
• 2:01:09
  anyway, it's an LLC,
• 2:01:11
  and there's so many attorneys on there.
• 2:01:14
  And now I'm getting freaked out. I haven't signed anything yet. She hadn't sent it's gonna be seven to ten days before they send this this agreement with me that I supposed to sign, but they're already gonna because I gave them my darn
• 2:01:29
  routing number, they're gonna take the first the first $100 out
• 2:01:34
  Unknown: this this twenty ninth. I thought you said you didn't give it to him.
• 2:01:39
  Unknown: Yeah. I did.
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  Unknown: Oh, he said he gave him the routing number.
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  He said he gave him the routing number, and they were gonna send him an agreement that he had to sign and send it back
• 2:01:50
  Unknown: before he number is just how they get to the bank where your funds are. I think you they need the account number too.
• 2:01:57
  Unknown: Did you give them that too? They got that. They they wanted that too. Yeah.
• 2:02:02
  I gave them that too.
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  Unknown: Pay pay all of your bills.
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  Pay them ahead.
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  Unknown: Withdraw your money from the bank.
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  Withdraw the cash from the bank.
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  Yeah. If you got money in there, be wise. No. Don't let them have access to funds if you've got any any substantial in there, Christian.
• 2:02:29
  Unknown: It comes in my Social Security check every every last of the month. So Okay. There's really nothing there because I've been paying taxes to up to up to what I can. Well You know? And Christian? Sorry. Hey, Christian. Yeah. Christian, you can't they cannot withdraw the money from the bank even if you gave them the routing number and your account number without you signing that agreement. Do not sign the agreement.
• 2:02:53
  Unknown: Okay. That's what they're sending you in the mail.
• 2:02:56
  Christian, don't you pay the damn bill? The final contract. Don't don't sign just add this. Part of being a national where we are and wanting to cross this line is you take on personal responsibility
• 2:03:08
  when you do that.
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  And seems to me that if you wanna fulfill that, you'll try and adhere to that. And if there was fraud involved in it, like, you alluded to that, then that may be challengeable. But, otherwise, you signed up for it. Whatever the circumstances were, you gave them the number of the plastic.
• 2:03:28
  And if it was me, I'd pay it.
• 2:03:31
  Unknown: Well, that's you know, he doesn't have a problem with paying it. He doesn't have a problem with paying it. The the problem is
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  trusting
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  that credit,
• 2:03:41
  collection agency
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  to only honor the agreement and only take what he's willing to pay. Okay. Well then then take your signed with Asengya,
• 2:03:52
  Unknown: and at the bottom,
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  add an addendum and say, I will pay it in monthly installments of $100
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  in postal money orders.
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  No bank
• 2:04:03
  grabbing.
• 2:04:04
  Yeah. And see if that and see if they'll honor that.
• 2:04:09
  Unknown: Okay.
• 2:04:10
  Okay. So but but she's already gonna take a $100 this month.
• 2:04:15
  Unknown: Well, what you can until you sign that agreement.
• 2:04:21
  Unknown: Okay. So should should I,
• 2:04:24
  let's see. Because she said she's gonna,
• 2:04:27
  put that okay. So I need to I okay. I'm supposed to let them know about any changes
• 2:04:33
  over the phone before I get my letter to sign. Okay. Well, you need to call them on Monday
• 2:04:40
  Unknown: and say, I'm this contract, you're asking me to sign something. I want, this addendum in it, or I want this stipulation in it. I'll pay you in monthly installments
• 2:04:50
  of postal money orders of $100. You're not getting into my bank account or having access to it. I think what they're proceeding on is verbal
• 2:04:58
  Unknown: permission that was given when he gave them the routing and account number. So that's what they're moving forward on the twenty ninth with, the first payment.
• 2:05:08
  Subsequent payments after that will be pursuant to signing the agreement and sending it back.
• 2:05:15
  Unknown: Okay.
• 2:05:16
  Hey, Roger.
• 2:05:18
  Unknown: I think that's not Doug Cosmos, is it?
• 2:05:23
  No. It's not. I'm going by a different name now. No. He didn't ever he never calls in here anymore, that Cosmos kid.
• 2:05:31
  Unknown: Yeah. It's hard to get in edgewise.
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  Oh, I
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  wanted to say
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  here, this is my own personal experience.
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  No.
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  An old
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  court case thing
• 2:05:46
  going back maybe fifteen years, whatever. And, you know, the debt collectors keep buying it up. But, anyway,
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  I
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  my
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  Social Security
• 2:06:00
  for a while,
• 2:06:02
  and my bank contacted me,
• 2:06:05
  and they told me
• 2:06:07
  that
• 2:06:08
  these type of situations,
• 2:06:12
  your Social Security cannot be attached
• 2:06:15
  or
• 2:06:16
  any money, and no one can
• 2:06:19
  take money
• 2:06:20
  from that. Maybe the government can,
• 2:06:23
  but debt collectors and lawyers and all this stuff and they gave me an actual amount.
• 2:06:30
  They said I was getting, like, 1,400
• 2:06:33
  a month at the time,
• 2:06:35
  and it was they nobody can
• 2:06:38
  your you got $1,400
• 2:06:41
  a month coming into your Social Security.
• 2:06:43
  That's secured. Nobody can attach
• 2:06:46
  anything to it.
• 2:06:49
  Unknown: Okay. Even if they very much. If I was stupid stupid and gave them that routing number. Well, if they didn't gave well, that's why they're wanting permission. They're give permission, they can do it.
• 2:07:02
  Unknown: Well, but but in this situation,
• 2:07:05
  he has not
• 2:07:06
  said take it.
• 2:07:08
  Unknown: Okay? Just call your bank, Christian, and tell them what's going on and that you don't consent to them taking anything and make them change your routing number and your account number. No. Just tell them to stop on.
• 2:07:22
  Unknown: Okay.
• 2:07:23
  Unknown: What was that, Roger? Don't just put a stop on it. I just Roger. I think, though, they make you put a stop on it, but I don't know. You might have to give them specifics.
• 2:07:32
  You're just gonna have to call them and check it out, and you get you you just keep getting deeper and deeper. Yes, Larry?
• 2:07:41
  Unknown: Yeah. The the debt collector is this a credit card debt, Christian? Yes. Yes, sir. Yeah.
• 2:07:47
  A debt collector.
• 2:07:48
  Is it a third party, or is it a bank?
• 2:07:51
  Is it a bank using attorneys, or is it a third party debt collector?
• 2:07:56
  Unknown: No. They sold they look like they sold the debt to this LLC.
• 2:08:00
  Unknown: Right. Yeah. They they they cannot garnish
• 2:08:04
  social sick they cannot legally garnish or see Social Security benefits
• 2:08:09
  deposited into a bank account.
• 2:08:11
  However, debt collectors
• 2:08:13
  and they could still temporarily freeze your account,
• 2:08:17
  which is called a bank levy,
• 2:08:19
  when seeking a court judgment.
• 2:08:21
  Now here's how you could protect yourself. There's an automatic two month protection
• 2:08:26
  under federal rules.
• 2:08:28
  Banks must automatically
• 2:08:29
  review your account when a garnishment order arrives.
• 2:08:33
  They're required to protect up to two months worth of your directly deposited
• 2:08:38
  Social Security benefits.
• 2:08:40
  So to trigger this automatic protection,
• 2:08:44
  the benefits must be received via direct deposit.
• 2:08:48
  If you receive a physical check and deposit it yourself, the bank does not have to automatically protect
• 2:08:54
  the funds, meaning your account could be frozen until you go to court and prove the money is from Social Security.
• 2:09:00
  Is yours direct deposited?
• 2:09:02
  Unknown: It's direct deposited. Yes, sir. Yeah. I don't think they issue. They can't touch that money. Anymore, Larry.
• 2:09:09
  Unknown: What's that? My knowledge, they don't issue checks in The US anymore. I used to That's probably true. Because I'm outside the country. I don't think they do anything with direct deposit anymore. You can force them to send you a check because Dave did that.
• 2:09:23
  Unknown: They will still send checks, but you've gotta jump through numerous hoops to get them to do it. Otherwise, they'll switch you to direct deposit or send you a debit card.
• 2:09:32
  Unknown: Yeah.
• 2:09:33
  Christian, it's always the following year shoots. I may call
• 2:09:37
  Unknown: Hold on. Me just let Larry let Dave Dave Dave. Let Larry finish. We'll let you talk. What?
• 2:09:44
  Unknown: Only gotta say it one time, Roger. Jesus.
• 2:09:48
  Unknown: Well, I never know what the hell you're gonna say or where somebody's interrupt is gonna take us, Dave. Sorry.
• 2:09:57
  Unknown: I was just my name, and he said that I was jumping through hoops to get my check, and I'm not. Okay? It was very simple. But you can't Alright. Once you got a direct deposit at this point, you're not gonna get a check.
• 2:10:12
  Unknown: I yield. That's correct. Yeah. Christian, if I was in your shoes, I wouldn't even pay anything.
• 2:10:18
  I would I mean, they can't collect on it. If that's all you're getting is Social Security, they can't collect on it. You could just tell them, well, take me to court because all I have is Social Security. And what they're gonna do is they're just gonna discharge the debt or whatever they do
• 2:10:32
  to to, get rid of that. You know, they're not you haven't received a judgment on it. Right?
• 2:10:38
  Unknown: No. No. That's
• 2:10:40
  Unknown: Yeah. So they're
• 2:10:41
  and how much is the debt? Like, $2,000?
• 2:10:44
  Unknown: It's 2,800.
• 2:10:46
  Unknown: They're not gonna take you to court. You're gonna if you told them, all I get is Social Security benefits,
• 2:10:52
  and they are protected under federal law from garnishment,
• 2:10:55
  please just go away, and they probably will.
• 2:10:59
  Unknown: You go. I'd try that. Where I'm saying.
• 2:11:04
  Unknown: Come in. Okay. That's why I brought it up, Roger.
• 2:11:07
  And thank you, Larry. Thank
• 2:11:10
  Unknown: you, Doug. Good to hear from you. Good to hear from you. Yeah. Because I'm to get some
• 2:11:15
  sanity. Try to get some sanity in here. We've had all these this interaction and discussion.
• 2:11:22
  Christian, you were just talking. What were you gonna say?
• 2:11:25
  Unknown: Okay. I got a continuance.
• 2:11:27
  I got a continuance in yesterday because
• 2:11:32
  I was waiting on this to not to go to court on or 05/27.
• 2:11:36
  I was supposed to go to court on it. So I gotta continue have a continuance pretty well. She oh, the the court clerk at JP one, they said, yeah. We can give you a continuance till you get that letter because you got an agreement going on. We're gonna we give you a
• 2:11:53
  so that's what I need to do is is
• 2:11:58
  really go ahead and try to get this, noted that it's a Social Security
• 2:12:05
  and
• 2:12:06
  that I'm on Social Security. I'm 77 years old. You know? It's,
• 2:12:13
  and they're trying to take that you know, because I gave him the routing number. I gotta get him. This is this is good what Larry said.
• 2:12:20
  Unknown: Well, you need to contact them back, tell them your exact stipulation and say, I got you don't have anything hanging out with her for $3,000.
• 2:12:28
  They're not gonna go through a court action to try and get a judgment to come grab something, I don't think.
• 2:12:34
  Okay? Roger.
• 2:12:37
  Yeah. Okay. Hold on. Who said Roger right there?
• 2:12:41
  Jeffrey.
• 2:12:43
  Hey, Jeff. Talk right in the microphone, buddy. You're faint.
• 2:12:48
  Unknown: You bet. Let me tell that caller what I did worked for me. I had an emergency
• 2:12:54
  hospital visit,
• 2:12:57
  and
• 2:12:58
  the hospital tried to collect for me through letters,
• 2:13:02
  email, and then eventually went to a debt collector. Well,
• 2:13:08
  I wrote that debt collector
• 2:13:10
  one letter.
• 2:13:12
  I wrote,
• 2:13:13
  dear sirs, whatever,
• 2:13:16
  I do not know you. I have no contract with you.
• 2:13:20
  Sent a certified mail. Never heard from them again, and it's been seven, eight years. That's the simplest remedy ever right there, Christian.
• 2:13:31
  Unknown: Yeah. It is. What does Larry think about that?
• 2:13:36
  Unknown: Well, irregardless, I mean, that's a good idea, but still the facts in your situation are you have Social Security.
• 2:13:44
  You'll have you don't have any other sources of income. Correct?
• 2:13:47
  No. No. Right. So you're you're what's called judgment proof.
• 2:13:52
  Even if they went to court,
• 2:13:54
  if they for for this if they went to court and got a judgment against you, which would probably be futile
• 2:14:00
  on their part because it's gonna cost them money to file a case,
• 2:14:06
  you know, the the case filing to start a case
• 2:14:10
  and, and all the other expenses and then to pay for a summons.
• 2:14:14
  They have to go through all of those motions because that's due process.
• 2:14:18
  And, it's just not cost effective because debt collectors are a business. They're they're just like any other business. They wanna buy low, sell high,
• 2:14:26
  and and make a profit. So they buy these debts in bundles,
• 2:14:30
  you know, thousands of debts from from the banks,
• 2:14:33
  and the banks are selling them these these bundled of,
• 2:14:37
  you know, defaulted
• 2:14:40
  credit card debts and loans. 15? 1015%.
• 2:14:43
  It's kinda like it
• 2:14:46
  it's like pennies on the dollar. They they might pay on one. Yep. They might pay $200
• 2:14:51
  for, like, a a 20 a $1,520,000
• 2:14:53
  dollar.
• 2:14:54
  Correct.
• 2:14:56
  Unknown: They've already filed they had filed suit on me, and that's when I put the pay started to get fighting for verification.
• 2:15:02
  I got a last thing I did is a rule 12,
• 2:15:05
  and they still won't but they have sent me a whole bunch of doggone
• 2:15:10
  but they did send me a affidavit
• 2:15:13
  that they bought. They got a bill of sale
• 2:15:16
  and
• 2:15:17
  all that in the paperwork.
• 2:15:19
  Unknown: Yeah. So they they're they are selling the the banks are selling third party debt collectors
• 2:15:24
  a bundle of, you know, 500 or a thousand debts for pennies on the dollar, and then they have this agreement that they are selling. This is kinda like if you buy a used car from a dealership.
• 2:15:35
  Know, You some some dealers will
• 2:15:37
  say, you know, we're gonna give you, like, a a five month warranty or six month warranty.
• 2:15:42
  But, you know, when it comes to these debts, it's as is, and they're not they're not going to vouch for the accuracy
• 2:15:49
  of the information in the portfolio that the debt collector is buying.
• 2:15:53
  And so that's why it's always good to dispute the debt because there could be in there could be like, when a debt collector opens up your specific file and then they try to go after you, like, they'll send you the the, you know, the the notice that,
• 2:16:07
  you know, you have thirty days to dispute the validity of this debt, so on and so forth, one of those letters.
• 2:16:12
  And then they'll they'll list the original creditor and the amount.
• 2:16:16
  That may be all the information they have from that portfolio.
• 2:16:20
  And, so there could be missing information. You could just say, I dispute this debt and send it back to them, certified mail return receipt.
• 2:16:28
  And,
• 2:16:29
  and so they have to stop collecting
• 2:16:31
  for thirty days until they provide an investigation and and let you know, you know, some more information about that particular debt. But, your judgment proof, you could just write them back, call the law firm or who or no. I'm sorry. The the third party debt collector and talk to someone, you know, like a supervisor and say, look at I changed my mind.
• 2:16:53
  All I have is Social Security,
• 2:16:55
  and I've just I've just educated myself on this subject.
• 2:16:59
  And you can't touch my Social Security benefits. Even if you get a judgment against me, this is my only source of income. You can't touch me, so I'm not paying this. And you could go do what you wanna do. I I'm just not gonna deal with this anymore. And, or you could write out a letter like that explaining that, you know, that whole scenario
• 2:17:18
  and, and then, you know, see how they respond to that.
• 2:17:21
  Unknown: Roger?
• 2:17:22
  Unknown: I
• 2:17:23
  have a question.
• 2:17:26
  I have numerous questions for Christian. Comment comment me, Okay.
• 2:17:32
  Christian, what was the original
• 2:17:34
  debt amount before it was sold to the collection agency
• 2:17:40
  to the best of your knowledge? The
• 2:17:43
  Unknown: best of my knowledge is
• 2:17:45
  probably 2,200.
• 2:17:47
  Unknown: 2,200.
• 2:17:48
  So what they've done is they've sold it a couple of times, and every time a
• 2:17:53
  collection agency buys a debt as a bulk package, they put, they add $2,500
• 2:17:59
  in fees
• 2:18:00
  and then on top of that, so they alter the amount.
• 2:18:06
  Make an offer of settlement to the debt collector
• 2:18:10
  that you will settle that account for $1,000
• 2:18:14
  which you know is much more than they paid for the debt,
• 2:18:19
  and that you will pay it in installments of $100 a month for the next ten months.
• 2:18:27
  And
• 2:18:28
  on the final payment,
• 2:18:31
  they agree to mark your credit report paid as agreed
• 2:18:37
  and close your account forever.
• 2:18:40
  Just make an offer of settlement.
• 2:18:42
  A thousand bucks is easier than them having to pay lawyers to
• 2:18:47
  go after you for $2,800,
• 2:18:50
  and I know they only paid 250 for that for that loan when they bought it or less.
• 2:19:00
  Unknown: Well, you got a lot of choices, it sound like Christian. There's Brent.
• 2:19:04
  Several
• 2:19:05
  people have some
• 2:19:08
  Unknown: I I
• 2:19:11
  Unknown: several people wanted to say something, and I don't remember all of them. But, obviously, Dave is gonna be first,
• 2:19:19
  Dave.
• 2:19:21
  Unknown: Thank you, Roger.
• 2:19:22
  So, Christian,
• 2:19:24
  theusaorganicrepublic.com
• 2:19:28
  had a show on Tuesday
• 2:19:30
  about this very
• 2:19:32
  subject.
• 2:19:33
  Okay? And they give you remedies
• 2:19:36
  and you can listen by phone, a replay number, or you can go to the website
• 2:19:41
  and listen to the call again. I can give you a phone number, you can fast forward, reverse
• 2:19:48
  and pause
• 2:19:49
  and listen to it over and go over again, but it'll be recorded over on Tuesday again. And they have Remedy in that call. Mike,
• 2:19:58
  ombudsman
• 2:19:59
  from California,
• 2:20:01
  gave plenty of remedy for this. And when when you take out when you have a credit card or even a loan, whatever,
• 2:20:08
  the there's they never lend you any money. They create it with your signature. You're you're
• 2:20:14
  Unknown: creating money
• 2:20:16
  Unknown: every time you use it. Right. Yeah. I understand that. Roger has has has made
• 2:20:21
  that real plan to me before,
• 2:20:24
  and that's why I was fighting it and
• 2:20:26
  to two. And the thing is that
• 2:20:29
  them not proven really not proven that and you know what scared the crud out of me is on the back of this
• 2:20:36
  letters that they send, it's got, like, 13 lawyers on there. And then not only that
• 2:20:42
  Unknown: Yeah. Right. That's all intimidation
• 2:20:44
  factor.
• 2:20:46
  Unknown: It has What?
• 2:20:48
  Unknown: Yeah. Let me get the name, please. I wanna hear what Brent I wanna hear what Brent says, and I wanna hear what Larry
• 2:20:55
  Larry
• 2:20:56
  and Brent and and about
• 2:21:00
  about that. Okay? Okay. What's your phone number?
• 2:21:03
  Unknown: It's 605
• 2:21:06
  Unknown: Okay.
• 2:21:08
  Unknown: 313
• 2:21:10
  Unknown: Okay.
• 2:21:11
  Unknown: 5112
• 2:21:15
  and then you hit the pound sign twice.
• 2:21:18
  Okay. It's about an hour and a half call.
• 2:21:21
  You can rewind.
• 2:21:22
  You can pause. You can fast forward, and you can listen to it as many times as you want and have pen and paper to take notes.
• 2:21:30
  Unknown: And now you go.
• 2:21:32
  Unknown: Okay.
• 2:21:33
  Luck. Dave first is gone. Who was second? I am Brent's in there somewhere. There's a who I was was second.
• 2:21:41
  Go ahead. Well, hold on, Brent. I was was before you. I was? Come on.
• 2:21:51
  Now you just said you are. I'm telling you. Come on. What do you got?
• 2:21:55
  Unknown: That was me.
• 2:21:58
  Brent, stand up. Alright.
• 2:22:01
  Unknown: See, there's too many people starting up. Go ahead, Brent, please. Go ahead. Christian,
• 2:22:07
  Unknown: do you know who Yes.
• 2:22:09
  Unknown: Handle on the Law is?
• 2:22:11
  You ever listen to that show in LA?
• 2:22:15
  Unknown: No.
• 2:22:16
  Unknown: Oh, well, he gives you marginal legal
• 2:22:20
  advice and tells you you have no case.
• 2:22:23
  According to him,
• 2:22:25
  your Social Security can't be touched,
• 2:22:28
  But is once it hits the bank, it's fair game because it's not Social Security at that time.
• 2:22:36
  Unknown: Okay.
• 2:22:37
  Be cautious there. Planable.
• 2:22:41
  Unknown: And then also,
• 2:22:44
  well, you might listen to that show because he talks about, you know, debt stuff also.
• 2:22:51
  But I would get my since you gave them your routing and account number,
• 2:22:58
  have the bank change your account.
• 2:23:01
  Okay. That way that way you can kinda sideswipe
• 2:23:05
  them and stuff and tell them money order or nothing.
• 2:23:11
  Unknown: Okay.
• 2:23:12
  Okay. I like that.
• 2:23:14
  Unknown: Okay. I yield. Now there were is that you got you finished, Brent? You got others?
• 2:23:20
  I yield.
• 2:23:22
  Thank you, buddy. Good to hear from you. Okay. Who who is in that compilation
• 2:23:27
  of people wanting to say something? There's more. I just couldn't recognize the voice.
• 2:23:32
  Does everybody wanna say it at the same time? There's a female. I know. Is it Mer?
• 2:23:39
  Oh, it wasn't Mer. Who who No. Was
• 2:23:42
  Joan, but this It was Joan. You're right. You're right. Thank you, Mer. Joan,
• 2:23:47
  I know you just said it was yes.
• 2:23:50
  Unknown: Well, not Julie. She was just saying it was French. Do crazy.
• 2:23:54
  Unknown: Drive me nuts, girls, please.
• 2:23:56
  I do have something to say if you wanna hear it. You've been doing it all my life. Drive me nuts. Okay?
• 2:24:02
  Let's see. Okay. Well, hold on.
• 2:24:04
  Because I'm totally,
• 2:24:07
  it it wouldn't Mer. It was Joan. I think Joan just had a comment. Joan, did you have more than a comment?
• 2:24:14
  Unknown: No.
• 2:24:16
  Unknown: Thank you. Alright. We're gonna move to Mer and then Julie Mer.
• 2:24:22
  Unknown: Okay. Yeah.
• 2:24:25
  Kristen, I would say be sure and get the recording from this show so you can listen to what's been said here. Very important.
• 2:24:32
  And also back with the Planet X thing, I knew someone that ran up a bunch of credit cards. I mean, really ran them up. So they had all these Hey. Hey, ma'am. Can you hold on hold on one second? What's that? Blackness night, water moxie.
• 2:24:46
  Unknown: Oh. Brother, do you me come right along with the killing? I'm sorry. He couldn't. I think he was so fast. Turn around and went that way. He wouldn't put in his house. Oh my god.
• 2:24:57
  Unknown: Black water moccasin. The kid came came at my son out here. Black mocks mocks water mocks.
• 2:25:03
  Unknown: Can be aggressive. Those little rascals. Yeah. I don't think they're as dangerous on land as they are in water.
• 2:25:09
  Unknown: Probably so, but they're very aggressive anywhere.
• 2:25:13
  That's a problem. Now we've had the snake alert. Lord, this conversation's encompassed everything.
• 2:25:19
  Unknown: So, we've had the snake alert. Where were we before the moccasin showed up? Well, I was saying this person was sure planet x was coming, and they ran up all these credit cards. I mean tremendous amount of debt.
• 2:25:31
  And I don't know who they turned it over to but
• 2:25:34
  it was someone a collector that bought up the debt and then reduced it to a minimal amount no interest
• 2:25:42
  and they paid a small this person paid a small amount for however long it took to discharge
• 2:25:48
  what was left but it was much less than was a you know the debt was so
• 2:25:55
  there's that option. There's
• 2:25:57
  Unknown: a file a suit that that file they filed suit and that they're saying they're at the end of their little conversation. They were saying, well, we got we got some because they gotta pay they gotta pay the court cost to get it to get get it in court. Right? Of course. What did this person this person apparently
• 2:26:16
  Unknown: I don't know who they dealt with, but they did it themselves.
• 2:26:19
  They were led to find a certain organization that would take it over like that.
• 2:26:26
  Unknown: Well, if we had more time, Christian, you could have gotten a hold of Nolo Press,
• 2:26:30
  and probably they've got a book on how to deal this and discharge debts too. But who are you waited till last minute here and we're up against the wall that unless they go away and take one of these head fakes. Nope. Nope, Larry. Hold on. We've got the lovely wallflower Julie waiting in queue. Julie?
• 2:26:49
  Unknown: Yeah. I was just gonna say that USA We finally got to you.
• 2:26:55
  Organic Republic,
• 2:26:56
  like Dave was giving out the number. You can go on their website. They actually have documents from that evening that you can
• 2:27:03
  print out and then go with the
• 2:27:07
  phone number for the recorded call and use the documents so you can see because it's all about discharging debt.
• 2:27:14
  Unknown: Okay. Now we're gonna go back and ask you to give the website again. You're a little faint today on your phone. Could you speak right in the microphone and give the website
• 2:27:23
  Unknown: again? Yeah. Sorry. I'm in my car going to Swamp Lake in DC, and I have traffic. That's fine. It's usausaorganicrepublic.com.
• 2:27:35
  Unknown: Usaorganicrepublic.com.
• 2:27:40
  Unknown: Have Christian, you got that? Republic is spelled Republic is spelled R E P U B L I C K.
• 2:27:47
  Unknown: R E P U B L I C K.
• 2:27:51
  Unknown: Republic. Comment. Oh,
• 2:27:53
  Unknown: just yes, Paul. It's Christian. You triggered
• 2:27:57
  a landslide. Paul?
• 2:28:02
  Paul, you just wanna say something?
• 2:28:05
  Paul doesn't wanna come forward it. Okay, Rick. I'm going to you now.
• 2:28:10
  Unknown: Hang on one second. That link is in the chat.
• 2:28:14
  Unknown: Link's in the chat, Christian. You probably can access it. I don't know. Rick,
• 2:28:20
  I feel like an auctioneer today. Anytime
• 2:28:26
  Unknown: on third party debt, anytime you communicate,
• 2:28:29
  like, inquiries,
• 2:28:31
  if you make an offer, always right.
• 2:28:34
  This is not an agreement to any contract.
• 2:28:38
  That's it. Okay.
• 2:28:39
  Unknown: There's a whole bunch of federal legislation
• 2:28:42
  that covers this, by the way, Christian. It's called the Fair
• 2:28:46
  Debt
• 2:28:47
  Collectors Act, I believe.
• 2:28:50
  Brent I bet Brent took off. Let's see. Did Brent take off? I can't see if he's up there. I think he did.
• 2:28:55
  He gave his advice, Chris. He said, pay the thing. I I you you know, you've got a wide spectrum of opinions.
• 2:29:02
  And, I mean,
• 2:29:04
  you basically, you certainly aren't on the most honest and unscrupulous people you're dealing with, but it is a debt, and you kinda did agree with it. So there's a moral element of that too, and I don't know and will not tell you what to do.
• 2:29:19
  K? Now, Rick, you said something. Did you get finished with your piece?
• 2:29:26
  Unknown: Yeah. That's it. Okay.
• 2:29:28
  Unknown: Who's next? Is there anybody else? It's Larry.
• 2:29:32
  Unknown: It's Larry again. Hey, Larry. So I only agree I only I only agree with I
• 2:29:37
  only agree with what Brent said about this guy.
• 2:29:41
  Only
• 2:29:42
  about 50% of that. Because when a bank receives a garnishment order,
• 2:29:47
  they are required by federal regulations to look at your account history
• 2:29:51
  for the preceding two months. So if you receive $1,200
• 2:29:55
  a month in Social Security via direct deposit,
• 2:29:58
  the bank
• 2:29:59
  multiplies that by two.
• 2:30:02
  And so you are shielded automatically
• 2:30:05
  for $2,400,
• 2:30:07
  and you maintain full access to that amount. However,
• 2:30:11
  if there's an excess amount, say, $3,500,
• 2:30:14
  the bank will automatically protect the first $2,400
• 2:30:19
  but freeze the remaining $1,100.
• 2:30:23
  Now just because the bank freezes that $1,100
• 2:30:26
  that's in excess
• 2:30:28
  does not mean the debt collector automatically gets to keep it,
• 2:30:32
  and it's not so much like what you just said, Roger, under the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act.
• 2:30:37
  Christian's protected under the Social Security Act section two zero seven,
• 2:30:42
  which states that Social Security benefits are broadly exempt from private debt collection.
• 2:30:48
  So the difference is that the protection for the older money is no longer automatic.
• 2:30:54
  So here's another thing too.
• 2:30:57
  We're taught that the banks don't loan us money, and that is absolutely a fact. You create the money when you when you put your signature on an application.
• 2:31:07
  So with that in mind, I wouldn't feel guilty, Christian,
• 2:31:11
  that you feel like you have to pay someone back because nobody ever loans you anything.
• 2:31:17
  And so because you're judgment proof,
• 2:31:20
  I would just tell them to go take a hike in a polite way.
• 2:31:23
  Say, I'm on Social Security. That's all I have. And you could even write a notice of dispute into the court case,
• 2:31:31
  you know, that you're disputing this debt, or you can just write a notice that, you know, you're saying that you're on Social Security,
• 2:31:39
  and you're letting the parties know. You're letting the judge know. That's all you get. And then you could quote a couple of laws that show that it's protected under federal law from garnishment
• 2:31:48
  and, and that you don't have the money to pay for this.
• 2:31:52
  And, you know, there's a couple of things you can do here, and I wanna feel guilty in the least.
• 2:31:59
  Unknown: Man, that that's that's wonderful. You know, I wanna I wanna, might have to get with you tomorrow when y'all get back on so I can get the get actually
• 2:32:09
  the
• 2:32:10
  the few laws that you're talking about, protection on Social Security,
• 2:32:16
  and then what to do about this continuance I got.
• 2:32:21
  Unknown: How long was the continuous? We can talk about it. How long was the continuous for?
• 2:32:28
  Unknown: Just until I get that agreement in seven to ten days, and then Oh, so it's a short contingent.
• 2:32:34
  Unknown: Okay.
• 2:32:35
  Well, Christian, you got a bunch of options in front of you.
• 2:32:39
  I don't know that any of us are gonna tell you what to do. We got input. We'll be back tomorrow
• 2:32:44
  if anybody thinks of something or whatever.
• 2:32:47
  Unknown: I thank I thank everybody for their concern and their and compassion.
• 2:32:53
  And and I wanna I wanna get back with Larry tomorrow and Paul.
• 2:32:58
  They all both had things that I could do pretty quick,
• 2:33:02
  and I need to write that letter and and then maybe put a couple laws
• 2:33:06
  in there about
• 2:33:09
  What? My Social Security, you know, because that's all I get.
• 2:33:12
  Unknown: Between now and tomorrow, listen to that number that Dave gave you in that program.
• 2:33:19
  Unknown: K? Okay.
• 2:33:20
  Unknown: At least do that. He's probably got some good hands in there.
• 2:33:24
  Unknown: Oh. And do try to don't
• 2:33:27
  try to do anything on Monday. It's a holiday.
• 2:33:30
  Unknown: Oh, yeah. That's right.
• 2:33:32
  Unknown: Who is it? Memorial Day? Memorial Day is Monday?
• 2:33:36
  Unknown: Yeah. It's myrrh, Kristen, not June. We sound I
• 2:33:41
  we don't sound alike to each other, but to everyone else, apparently, we do.
• 2:33:45
  Unknown: Thank you, Murr. I need some I'm not a I'm not a real smart
• 2:33:50
  I'm not the best knife in the in in in
• 2:33:54
  right.
• 2:33:55
  But I I do have some real good paperwork in
• 2:33:59
  denying it, but
• 2:34:02
  I need to write that to them so I can stop this. And then, you know, I'm paying taxes right now for my land, so I don't I I don't wanna freeze up my my Social Security this month. I've been waiting
• 2:34:15
  since the first the the last
• 2:34:18
  you know, this was a long month, and I I get my Social Security check on the twenty sixth.
• 2:34:25
  So
• 2:34:25
  I
• 2:34:26
  didn't wanna get get it frozen.
• 2:34:28
  Unknown: And remember what Joe said. If you do have extra in there, pull it out.
• 2:34:34
  Unknown: Christian?
• 2:34:35
  Unknown: Well,
• 2:34:36
  Unknown: it it's nothing there. It's really nothing there until I get until I get my check So she's gonna deposit.
• 2:34:43
  Unknown: Yeah. And it's Okay. And it's already spoken for the minute he gets it. Christian, I wanna go through this
• 2:34:49
  once very cleanly and succinctly so it winds up on the transcript for the program.
• 2:34:55
  What you wanna do is you wanna send a letter certified
• 2:34:59
  to the debt collector
• 2:35:00
  that you're dealing with
• 2:35:03
  informing them that
• 2:35:06
  you have learned that because your
• 2:35:10
  sole
• 2:35:11
  means
• 2:35:12
  of income is social security
• 2:35:15
  and is by federal law
• 2:35:19
  untouchable,
• 2:35:21
  that you are making an offer of settlement
• 2:35:24
  for $1,000
• 2:35:26
  payable in 10 monthly installments of $100
• 2:35:32
  not to be automatically
• 2:35:34
  deducted from your bank account.
• 2:35:38
  You rescind
• 2:35:41
  all perm any and all permission
• 2:35:43
  for them to access
• 2:35:46
  your funds directly.
• 2:35:48
  You will send them a check or a money order
• 2:35:52
  that you expect all
• 2:35:55
  I resent putting this on the transcript. All you gotta do is go back to the transcript and you can read it.
• 2:36:02
  So you're
• 2:36:03
  rescinding permission for them to
• 2:36:06
  access your bank account,
• 2:36:09
  that you will pay them
• 2:36:12
  a monthly payment
• 2:36:14
  for ten months
• 2:36:16
  totaling $1,000
• 2:36:18
  without interest
• 2:36:21
  and
• 2:36:23
  you expect
• 2:36:26
  or require
• 2:36:27
  your credit report to be noted paid as agreed
• 2:36:31
  and the account closed.
• 2:36:35
  Now you can grab that letter right from the transcript because basically what you're doing is you're telling them you know that your money's untouchable,
• 2:36:43
  so it doesn't matter if they go forward with a court action against you. They may get a judgment, but it isn't gonna do anything for them. Mhmm. You're making them an offer of settlement if they stop
• 2:36:55
  court action immediately
• 2:36:58
  and
• 2:36:59
  accept your offer.
• 2:37:03
  And Okay.
• 2:37:04
  That's how it's gonna lay out because, you know, they only paid pennies on the dollar on the on the debt.
• 2:37:10
  Tractor Supply has already sold the debt.
• 2:37:13
  You know, they they have already accepted their pennies on the dollar for what was owed to them, and they wrote off the rest as a as a business expense, as a loss,
• 2:37:24
  a bad debt. So you're square with Tractor Supply,
• 2:37:28
  and you don't have an agreement with a credit agency,
• 2:37:31
  but you do have a conscience,
• 2:37:34
  which is a beautiful thing, and I applaud you for that.
• 2:37:37
  Unknown: Do something find out there's a fine point you just ride over.
• 2:37:42
  You're saying you got all this Social Security protection that may be against them trying to garnish the government while it's in their possession.
• 2:37:50
  We need to find out when it's paid and it goes to your bank, is it still protected or not? If it's direct deposited,
• 2:37:57
  Unknown: I think it's still protected,
• 2:38:00
  but that's only for a period of time.
• 2:38:03
  Unknown: Okay. There you go. There's a limitation. Anyway,
• 2:38:07
  look, Christian, you can't sit here and absorb all this shit people throwing at you in in one setting.
• 2:38:13
  So I guess we'll be back tomorrow, and we'll have something to talk about.
• 2:38:17
  Unknown: Go to the transcript. I I wanted to do that at the end so I wouldn't mess anybody up. I thank y'all so much, and and
• 2:38:26
  god bless everybody that's your input and Roger and Okay. And Brent. I didn't get to hear what Brent said.
• 2:38:33
  Unknown: Go get a feel of the options that's been thrown at be back tomorrow.
• 2:38:38
  Yeah. We'll be here tomorrow, and and just get And I'm gonna try to write down idea what your options. We've given you about a number of options here. Get an idea of the options, and then the day you could will come and question tomorrow which ones interest you. But let this has been a almost
• 2:38:56
  a forty minute conversation
• 2:38:59
  of
• 2:39:00
  this garble. Could you pull one thing out of it? Just sit back, let the dust settle, get a control of your options, and make a decision which way you wanna move. Okay?
• 2:39:10
  Unknown: And go to the transcript for today's show. Go to the replay for for today's show when it's published on Podholm.
• 2:39:18
  That's radio.globalvoiceradio.net,
• 2:39:22
  and go right to the transcript at the two hour mark in the program,
• 2:39:26
  and that's where we started talking about all this. Everything that was said will be written down there.
• 2:39:32
  Unknown: Alright? Okay. Paul,
• 2:39:35
  I just needed you to do that a little bit slower. Radio ranch?
• 2:39:39
  Unknown: Radio.globalvoiceradio.net.
• 2:39:53
  Go to the title for today's show,
• 2:39:56
  click on it,
• 2:39:58
  and the description
• 2:40:00
  and the tabs for the
• 2:40:03
  general information,
• 2:40:04
  the transcript,
• 2:40:05
  and the chapters will be right there. Just click on the transcript tab,
• 2:40:10
  scroll down to the two hour mark, and that's when we started talking about this.
• 2:40:15
  And if you the top. Anchor if you anchor on a word transcript at the two hour mark and then go hit the play button,
• 2:40:22
  scroll up and hit the play button, it'll start playing the show again right at the two hour mark, right where you came in. And you can listen to the whole thing again and follow along with the transcript as it's
• 2:40:35
  speaking to you.
• 2:40:37
  Unknown: Okay.
• 2:40:38
  Unknown: Yep. Alright. There you go. Alright.
• 2:40:41
  Unknown: Shouldn't he be able shouldn't he be able to tell his bank he shouldn't have to change his account number? Can't he tell his bank no direct deductions except and he can tell them which ones. You know? I don't know. But if you change your account number, the next thing you need to do is call Social Security and let them know.
• 2:41:00
  Unknown: I'm
• 2:41:01
  I have never I've never had success
• 2:41:03
  with stopping an automatic payment because that's done electronically by midnight. They have no at night. They have no way to stop it. That's true.
• 2:41:14
  Unknown: Roger. Gotta catch
• 2:41:16
  time people are asking you information,
• 2:41:19
  Christian,
• 2:41:20
  don't
• 2:41:21
  volunteer
• 2:41:22
  it.
• 2:41:23
  Unknown: Yeah. Don't give it to them.
• 2:41:26
  Unknown: Dave, what did you say? Dave Dave.
• 2:41:29
  Unknown: That's sketch.
• 2:41:31
  Unknown: And I just wondered if you'd rather deal with a debt collector
• 2:41:35
  or a cottonmouth viper.
• 2:41:39
  Unknown: I'm gonna have to deal with both of them.
• 2:41:42
  Unknown: My son
• 2:41:46
  Unknown: is this is We got one big chicken snake out there six six feet long just yesterday, and now now we're looking at a water moss.
• 2:41:56
  Unknown: Oh, good lord. He came in one of the house. One under my house. He,
• 2:42:01
  Unknown: you'll do more damage with a hoe to him than you will with the hoe to the debt collector. You need a machete for him. Anyway, Christian, go take care of stuff. Gun. You yeah. That that'll work too. If both of don't wanna say such things on the air, come on, guys. Why not? Alright. Have a Monday. Alright.
• 2:42:21
  I'll I'll see y'all tomorrow on Saturday. Have a good show. Love y'all, and
• 2:42:26
  we'll be back tomorrow. Good lord willing.
• 2:42:29
  Somebody's got paper, printer running.
• 2:42:32
  Good lord.
• 2:42:33
  Okay.
• 2:42:34
  Have a good day, Wild Friday show. Yeah. Yeah.
• 2:42:38
  Yeah.
• 2:42:41
  Unknown: I'm gonna hang on a little bit. Yeah.
• 2:42:44
  Unknown: Christian, you need to take Paul's advice.
• 2:42:48
  Unknown: Take who's? Somebody
• 2:42:50
  Unknown: somebody said, Roger, who was trying to hail me,
• 2:42:53
  Unknown: please? Oh, no. I said Christian.
• 2:42:57
  Unknown: Yeah. But somebody jumped in there before you. Christian, Sherry's
• 2:43:01
  Sherry's on my team. She said you should take my advice. Now who else was it that that hollered out Roger before that?
• 2:43:11
  Unknown: You're on your.
• 2:43:14
  Unknown: You talk with me. I just But
• 2:43:19
  Unknown: for Okay.
• 2:43:21
  Was Go ahead, Gregory. Doing
• 2:43:25
  Unknown: some
• 2:43:26
  deep breathing exercises.
• 2:43:29
  Calm yourself,
• 2:43:31
  face that fear that you're afraid of because those morons
• 2:43:35
  don't deserve it.
• 2:43:37
  But,
• 2:43:37
  one thing that wasn't mentioned that I heard, maybe I
• 2:43:42
  didn't hear it, was that, what happened
• 2:43:44
  after you signed
• 2:43:47
  your name on that contract
• 2:43:49
  is that the banks are able to loan out 10 to 19 or 20 times more
• 2:43:56
  just off your signature.
• 2:43:58
  That way, they're making from the other guys
• 2:44:02
  and then expect you to pay what you've already created. They're double double dipping.
• 2:44:07
  And, you know, it's just it's
• 2:44:10
  just a ongoing cycle that they do. They they don't lose is what I'm trying to get to.
• 2:44:17
  Unknown: Yeah.
• 2:44:18
  Unknown: And you're fooled into, playing their game,
• 2:44:21
  and
• 2:44:22
  don't be fooled again.
• 2:44:25
  Unknown: Yeah. Boy, I tell you.
• 2:44:28
  I I appreciate
• 2:44:30
  Unknown: that too. Appreciate that. What's your name, sir? That's Gregory. Gregory. Boy, how do you I hit the wrong button. I don't know how to shut myself off.
• 2:44:39
  Unknown: Uh-oh.
• 2:44:41
  Yeah. I resemble that remark, Gregory.
• 2:44:45
  Unknown: Yeah.
• 2:44:46
  Unknown: I'm gonna Larry, I found myself.
• 2:44:51
  Unknown: I'm gonna talk tomorrow and try to get
• 2:44:55
  what Larry said and what what Paul said and get this down, and I'm gonna try to do I'm not very technical in getting getting to that two hour broadcast.
• 2:45:06
  I'm gonna try.
• 2:45:09
  But, tomorrow, I'll I'll,
• 2:45:11
  and I'm gonna take those deep breathing exercises
• 2:45:14
  because, you know, I don't have no high blood pressure, but I probably do now.
• 2:45:18
  Unknown: And Another
• 2:45:20
  thing you could do good help.
• 2:45:22
  Take care of that water moccasin, and then once you get take care of all the snakes,
• 2:45:27
  take your shoes off and
• 2:45:30
  stand next to a tree and hold your hands on it.
• 2:45:34
  That'll help.
• 2:45:36
  I'm serious. I'm serious. Tree huggers, they got a they got a thing.
• 2:45:43
  Because there is an energetic field that emanates,
• 2:45:45
  from all around a tree tree trunk. And as long as you're in that energetic field and grounded,
• 2:45:52
  you will get the benefit of that tree.
• 2:45:54
  It's there to help you. Even
• 2:45:57
  Unknown: if you don't have a tree, get your feet on the ground, the earth thing. Yeah. Discharge that energy.
• 2:46:03
  Unknown: Yeah. But catch the snakes first.
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  Catch them catch them damn snakes first.
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  Unknown: He's under my house. Where's a hoe?
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  Unknown: Yeah. Okay.
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  Oh gosh. Okay.
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  Unknown: Well, y'all got a lot of good information.
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  Unknown: If you don't destroy the snake too bad, you could have snake stains.
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  Unknown: I I saw Bear Grylls the other day, and he said, you know, I don't he said people say it tastes like chicken. He said, I don't know where you're getting your chicken from.
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  Uh-huh. Remember Bear Grylls?
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  Mhmm.
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  Unknown: Yeah. Yeah. I've eaten rattlesnake before, and it didn't taste like chicken. It was
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  rather succulent,
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  really.
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  And that's another thing I've got up here. Never
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  seen any mop water moccasins out here in California, but
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  we've got two or three different types of rattlesnake.
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  I used to kill them, but now I just leave them alone and go
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  go about my way. When I find one, I just turn around and leave.
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  Yeah. Just don't be afraid of them. Just like the bees. They don't sting me.
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  Unknown: Hey. I've been a beekeeper.
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  You let them let them get in that in that suit, and you start seeing their wings in front of your face. And then next thing you know, you've got a 150 stingers that gotta be pulled out.
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  Of these some of these bees, they crossed crossed with
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  the bad bees. You know?
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  Unknown: Africanized.
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  Yeah.
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  Unknown: The killer bee.
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  Unknown: Yeah. And so
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  and, oh, I tell you.
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  Yeah. I I
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  used to do all the beekeeping and stuff like that, but I I just got wore out and getting stung.
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  But,
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  now this tick thing that dropping on us. Yeah.
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  Unknown: I'm I'm wondering I'm wondering, okay, if if the tick bites you,
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  you get allergic to beef,
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  but if the tick bites the beef,
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  does that infect the cow
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  and does that in turn infect
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  if
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  you eat rare
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  meat?
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  So
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  there's there's like a whole question there.
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  Unknown: I think the height of the cow is too thick for a tick. I yield.
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  Unknown: You know, there's another thing
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  that I I
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  buy honey all the time, and I buy root from beekeepers. But
• 2:48:45
  what about all this paraquat and chemicals that they're putting
• 2:48:50
  into the corn, you know, in the cornfields, those everything else in our in our food.
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  And,
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  if you eat the honey,
• 2:49:01
  about the, para the the the Parkinson and stuff you get from Paraquat and Roundup and all that?
• 2:49:09
  Unknown: Yeah. I don't know.
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  Unknown: Have no no weeds in their fields out here. They they come out of there with their with they're
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  so proud to say, I got my fields sprayed.
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  No more weeds.
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  They come out of there with foam coming off of their doggone trucks.
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  And and and
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  and, you know, that gets in the that gets in the corn. It gets in the cows,
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  and it gets in the chickens
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  that that
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  Roundup and all that stuff. Yeah. Glyphosate.
• 2:49:43
  Unknown: Glyphosate.
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  Unknown: Yeah. Glyphosate.
• 2:49:47
  Yeah. Thank you.
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  Unknown: Glyphosate.
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  Unknown: Yeah. I got I got I got these signs up on my property. I put three by six, red, yellow, and and black.
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  And the sheriff came out and says, take my name off of that sign.
• 2:50:05
  He said, I don't care what you put on there, but just don't I have TECQ
• 2:50:09
  on my sign too. No no chemicals sprayed on my property. This is Native American land.
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  And and he said,
• 2:50:17
  now now the sheriff's wanting donations,
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  you know,
• 2:50:23
  for protecting the people. I said, well, what about the deal about about taking taking your name off of?
• 2:50:29
  And and and your these farmers are patting you on the back because they don't wanna have no fields or,
• 2:50:35
  weeds,
• 2:50:36
  and they're poisoning us.
• 2:50:38
  Unknown: Mhmm.
• 2:50:40
  Unknown: Yeah. I just asked the sheriff. Who are you working for? The people or the farmers?
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  Go get go get,
• 2:50:48
  go fundraise with them.
• 2:50:51
  Unknown: Yeah. That's true. And and, you know, I I got a
• 2:50:55
  I I told him I, he he hollered at me
• 2:50:58
  from the fence because I had no trespass signs on my fence with that sign. He says he had a big old cowboy hat on. You know? He's like, hey. I need to talk to you.
• 2:51:07
  And I said, okay. And I'm and at that time, I would I have been chemically exposed. That's why I'm so on fire about this chemical stuff is I've been I've
• 2:51:19
  they tried to kill me in in the hospital,
• 2:51:22
  giving me shots when I was going through a lawsuit with that. I didn't get a down from that chemical exposure that put me out of work.
• 2:51:30
  And and
• 2:51:32
  I just I just kept using the scripture
• 2:51:36
  that the Lord will heal me,
• 2:51:39
  and
• 2:51:40
  and
• 2:51:41
  I've come out of it.
• 2:51:43
  I've come out of it, and I'm actually
• 2:51:45
  doing real well. But,
• 2:51:48
  I mean, they gave me a death sentence. You know? And I didn't I didn't get a dime. Those those
• 2:51:54
  lawyers with those, big chemical companies.
• 2:51:57
  And, but, anyway, I had to I had to just believe God to to get me out of this. And now here I am in a in a debt collector deal.
• 2:52:06
  Unknown: Yeah.
• 2:52:09
  Well
• 2:52:09
  Unknown: So y'all y'all are I appreciate y'all appreciate y'all's help because it's really had you know what? I can't afford to have any
• 2:52:19
  any sickness
• 2:52:20
  from this. And like you said, I need to do the grounding and and the tree holding and all that.
• 2:52:26
  Unknown: Oh, yeah. Tree huggers, they they have it going on. Yeah.
• 2:52:32
  Tomorrow what they were talking about.
• 2:52:35
  Unknown: Tomorrow, I wanna get on this call tomorrow.
• 2:52:39
  Unknown: Do it before you get on the call.
• 2:52:43
  Unknown: Yeah. Yo. I'm a do it today.
• 2:52:46
  Yeah. There you go. Water moxing off carrying my shotgun out there.
• 2:52:50
  Unknown: Yeah. Okay.
• 2:52:53
  Alright. Well,
• 2:52:55
  I have, I have an issue that I have to correct.
• 2:52:59
  Rumble did not reset
• 2:53:01
  when I took the stream down before the show and then brought it back up again. Rumble just kinda
• 2:53:07
  took a hiatus, and then it it hit the ground running. So, actually, now Rumble's been running for, like, one hours.
• 2:53:14
  So
• 2:53:15
  let's,
• 2:53:17
  let's take this thing down and get that finished. Anybody that,
• 2:53:21
  catches the show on Rumble, I will download the last twenty seven hours
• 2:53:27
  of video from Rumble, edit it, and then re upload it as individual programs.
• 2:53:34
  I won't allow better than a whole day to stand in the archives.
• 2:53:40
  The
• 2:53:41
  Pod Home archives are just fine. Everything worked just fine, and the transcripts will
• 2:53:46
  cover everything that was spoken about today.
• 2:53:50
  So
• 2:53:51
  this Hey, Paul. Is the Radio Ranch with Roger Sales. Give me just a minute just a moment, Christian.
• 2:53:58
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• 2:54:08
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• 2:54:12
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• 2:54:21
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• 2:54:30
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• 2:54:33
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  Unknown: Bye bye, boys. Have fun storming the castle.