Latest / Old Time Mystery Radio | Old Time Radio / Dragnet - ”The Big Crime” (Old Time Radio, 1951)
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- 0:35Speaker 2: worried mother calls your office.
- 0:36Speaker 1: And report to afore your old twin girls and missing
- 0:40Speaker 1: our advance. The children fail to turn up your job.
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- 1:54Speaker 2: of an actual crime. For the next thirty minutes, in
- 1:57Speaker 2: cooperation of the Los Angeles Police Department, you will travel
- 2:00Speaker 2: step by step on the side of the laws through
- 2:02Speaker 2: an actual case transcribed from a FICO police files, from
- 2:06Speaker 2: beginning to end, from crime to punishment, Dragged Mess is
- 2:10Speaker 2: the story of your police force and action.
- 2:17Speaker 1: This Saturday, August Staty was hot to lot asay, we
- 2:20Speaker 1: were working a go watch that A given a girl.
- 2:22Speaker 1: My partner's better than marrow. The bosses inspected boy Friday Friday.
- 2:26Speaker 1: It was seven thirty five too when we got to
- 2:28Speaker 1: where we parked our time eighty K. I ain't seeing
- 2:43Speaker 1: uh the houses back that way? Yeah, like you said,
- 2:46Speaker 1: around here, huh you know, I how A'm on that
- 2:50Speaker 1: side or play waway around there?
- 2:53Speaker 3: No no way let huh.
- 2:58Speaker 1: Okay stark ad a.
- 3:04Speaker 3: I don't know about you.
- 3:05Speaker 1: I think there's something sour about the whole thing. Well,
- 3:08Speaker 1: the way they check at the house, the kids might
- 3:10Speaker 1: have turned.
- 3:10Speaker 3: Up while we were going, And I hope so she
- 3:12Speaker 3: had to.
- 3:12Speaker 1: Go back there into handing. Not one lousy leave you.
- 3:17Speaker 1: It's hard to figure the little girls just wandered off.
- 3:20Speaker 1: Somebody should have spotted him by this time that there
- 3:22Speaker 1: was some kind of an accident. Uh what time you
- 3:26Speaker 1: that mean?
- 3:27Speaker 3: Twenty minute stakes?
- 3:29Speaker 1: Five hours a longe house for a pair of four
- 3:33Speaker 1: year olds to be out of sight and the parents
- 3:35Speaker 1: are going to be worried sick, and you tell 'em
- 3:39Speaker 1: that's sit up the next blockingly. Uh yeah, huh, you
- 3:43Speaker 1: might as well pull up right here, and I stat's
- 3:49Speaker 1: got all the job and I'll put it in when
- 4:07Speaker 1: oh ye all, sir, just come in instance, have you
- 4:13Speaker 1: heard anything? Don't seen that too much, mister Curtains. We
- 4:16Speaker 1: just puts checking the neighborhood. Somebody around must have seen
- 4:20Speaker 1: the kids. Did you talk to everybody? And we checked
- 4:22Speaker 1: out all the names you gave us. Then everyone who
- 4:25Speaker 1: knows your little girls. The kids they played with their friends, fans,
- 4:28Speaker 1: store keepers in the area that somebody had to see.
- 4:32Speaker 1: They gotta be around someplace. John until he got lost
- 4:35Speaker 1: in that part, I know they would have headed up
- 4:37Speaker 1: to it home.
- 4:38Speaker 4: I what did it? G bank it?
- 4:41Speaker 5: No?
- 4:41Speaker 1: We start checking with his cartoons. Nothing what they tell
- 4:43Speaker 1: you right now?
- 4:44Speaker 4: Do you go somebody start to see? Tell him to
- 4:46Speaker 4: do he could hold wind it out that part.
- 4:48Speaker 1: I don't think as bad as it might sing to you, ma'am.
- 4:50Speaker 1: Children have been anything a lot longer than your two
- 4:52Speaker 1: little girls and turned up all right. Just try to
- 4:55Speaker 1: relax those carsons.
- 4:56Speaker 4: What isn't somebody seeks the one you don't think you part?
- 5:00Speaker 4: But it's on the tree blocks in your house? Why
- 5:02Speaker 4: didn't somebody say darker? Goodness?
- 5:05Speaker 1: What could have happened to you?
- 5:06Speaker 5: No?
- 5:06Speaker 1: I take it easy, honey. Don't start a managing anything.
- 5:09Speaker 1: Something we get a matter of time. Now we've got
- 5:11Speaker 1: three teams and then working on it. Where they's gotten
- 5:13Speaker 1: out a broadcast and the little girl.
- 5:15Speaker 4: Did you talk to the standing thing you st and
- 5:17Speaker 4: pick it?
- 5:17Speaker 1: Yes, ma'am, we did. We used to check out all
- 5:19Speaker 1: the name we used to give us. Well, there is
- 5:21Speaker 1: one thing we wanted to ask you about.
- 5:22Speaker 3: What such?
- 5:23Speaker 1: What about the spot in the park where you had
- 5:25Speaker 1: your picnic this afternoon where the little girls wanted off.
- 5:27Speaker 5: From exactly where I pointed it out to the leather
- 5:30Speaker 5: off the tap by the eucalyptics.
- 5:31Speaker 4: Grow right up seven doven just about two dat it
- 5:35Speaker 4: after me?
- 5:36Speaker 1: They sent any place plank to take it.
- 5:38Speaker 5: You know, you know the did I tell the girls
- 5:41Speaker 5: playing tables.
- 5:42Speaker 4: By the trees? I looked up in the can and
- 5:45Speaker 4: he were gone. It's like that to the weather.
- 5:48Speaker 1: When you're sure about that little kids is huh good?
- 5:50Speaker 4: I'm sure? What's that wrong to you?
- 5:52Speaker 3: Oh?
- 5:52Speaker 4: Any fun? Because h how did you say, see.
- 5:57Speaker 1: Him going on on?
- 5:57Speaker 3: Hey?
- 5:58Speaker 1: Take it easy? Huh it it just never happened though
- 6:02Speaker 1: it was before, sergeant children till he's never gone off
- 6:05Speaker 1: like this. It's it's not like him. That's all only
- 6:09Speaker 1: babies really, yes, cause light little got up the boy
- 6:12Speaker 1: left the castle. See yeah, sir, would you please shut
- 6:18Speaker 1: saw high worthy? Tell anything you know? I can't you
- 6:22Speaker 1: wanna step outside?
- 6:23Speaker 3: Well?
- 6:26Speaker 1: Yeah? He lp night check with a guy who runs
- 6:28Speaker 1: an ice cream wagon. He works the area in the
- 6:31Speaker 1: park where the kids disappeared for each other. Saw a
- 6:33Speaker 1: couple of little girls about a half a mile from
- 6:35Speaker 1: that eucalyptus grove about three o'clock the southnoon over a
- 6:38Speaker 1: man who says he saw the man put the kids
- 6:41Speaker 1: in a truck drove off with him. It yell together,
- 6:48Speaker 1: was tomwealthy better than I left the home of looking
- 6:50Speaker 1: a little fay castle The parents of the little girls
- 6:53Speaker 1: without telling a little about the latest freeport until if
- 6:56Speaker 1: it was positively confirmed we felt the telling him would
- 6:58Speaker 1: serve no purpose of all those lit needlessly nice clothes
- 7:02Speaker 1: down there. And mister George commands he who had reported
- 7:05Speaker 1: kings for a year old girl, insteader to drive out
- 7:07Speaker 1: with us to the park area where he spotted the
- 7:09Speaker 1: children in the company of an unidentified man. And I
- 7:13Speaker 1: was right over there or it was just this big guy,
- 7:16Speaker 1: uh mustache. He had the little girls, one on each hand.
- 7:21Speaker 1: He was walking them out of that clump of trees
- 7:23Speaker 1: over there. I think he can describe the man for
- 7:25Speaker 1: his mixed commanding. Well, I didn't look that close.
- 7:28Speaker 4: I thought he was the father. Uh.
- 7:30Speaker 1: The kids were sniffling, you know, maybe like had been crying.
- 7:33Speaker 1: I was better checked the guard over there by the trees.
- 7:35Speaker 1: I was even a sure a then U I wanted
- 7:37Speaker 1: to give it up over here. And you notice anything
- 7:39Speaker 1: at all about this man mixed mandic, I mean other
- 7:42Speaker 1: than his must say, No, I don't big man, big shoulders,
- 7:47Speaker 1: regular truck drivers, you know, work shoes, blue shirt, blue pants,
- 7:51Speaker 1: these I guess shoes he was. How about the color
- 7:53Speaker 1: of his here, some kind of distinguishing marks meeting No, No,
- 7:56Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 7:57Speaker 4: Huh.
- 7:57Speaker 1: I thought he was the father the kid was sniffing
- 8:00Speaker 1: and the little girls and it was anything wrong. It
- 8:03Speaker 1: didn't look like it. How about this man trust did
- 8:06Speaker 1: you know to say? No, I didn't. I was busy
- 8:08Speaker 1: with the freezer motor. Then gives me lots of trouble
- 8:11Speaker 1: all the time. What about the Latins members, They haven't
- 8:13Speaker 1: a recitize. Maybe I should have looked. I didn't dragapedias all.
- 8:18Speaker 1: I he was warm, nice and fresh and anything. Yeah,
- 8:22Speaker 1: well I didn't you eat 'em while they're warm? Good?
- 8:25Speaker 1: Now I saved him for my boys.
- 8:26Speaker 3: Crazy.
- 8:27Speaker 1: It's the thing that, oh I excuse with this prince?
- 8:30Speaker 1: Be sure a true go ahead? Well, well, Sam, family
- 8:36Speaker 1: is over in the bushes. But the season, I don't
- 8:39Speaker 1: see those those petticoats, those those dressed and ripped the
- 8:44Speaker 1: pieces H eight twenty fourth p and the other where
- 8:51Speaker 1: the towny clothes was fired was roped off and such
- 8:54Speaker 1: the footprints a lot of physical avitation.
- 8:56Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 8:56Speaker 1: Then it was finally comicide detailed with a lot of
- 8:58Speaker 1: fight and joined the mem but pagation drawing. Petty Coat
- 9:02Speaker 1: and dress were taking down to lead Jones at the
- 9:03Speaker 1: crime ramp for examination. When they were showing me the
- 9:06Speaker 1: father of the missing children's Frank Constant. He definitely identified him.
- 9:11Speaker 1: He searched with the four year old twins Joel until
- 9:13Speaker 1: he was intensified. An emergency spot check was made of
- 9:16Speaker 1: all known and registered sexual psychopaths. From the hundreds of names,
- 9:20Speaker 1: the staff office came up with one that might possibly
- 9:22Speaker 1: tie in, who was listed as HL Grahamberg. His address
- 9:26Speaker 1: was at the end of Seventh Avenue, close to the
- 9:29Speaker 1: park area where the constant twins had disappeared. While his
- 9:32Speaker 1: mama see Glamberg was described as tall, well built, dark
- 9:35Speaker 1: hair with him the stairs. He found him in his work,
- 9:38Speaker 1: a small bar out in the Wiltshire district. He was
- 9:40Speaker 1: in Organs there, Yeah, that's right. I live on seventh Avenue,
- 9:46Speaker 1: right across from the park. Matter of that time, Nathan
- 9:49Speaker 1: Jose the Neo constrict time between million sixty blood and
- 9:52Speaker 1: that grammar.
- 9:53Speaker 3: I don't know if I can or not.
- 9:54Speaker 1: I don't give it. Darey log.
- 9:56Speaker 3: You know they didn't tell me how to do that.
- 9:58Speaker 1: But tell us where you were between moon and six.
- 10:00Speaker 1: That's all we want to know. That's quite a bitiness,
- 10:02Speaker 1: you see. We as I told you, I was playing
- 10:05Speaker 1: Canaster to what I made mad? Was that shock and
- 10:07Speaker 1: I well, let little mood put spade after you. Just
- 10:09Speaker 1: give us an alibi. We can check that call.
- 10:11Speaker 3: I don't know why I always have a bout at
- 10:13Speaker 3: me when.
- 10:13Speaker 1: Something happened when made your own reputation. He didn't know
- 10:16Speaker 1: what about when I left my apartment about eleven thirty
- 10:19Speaker 1: this morning, I went down to the Union Hall and
- 10:21Speaker 1: paid my dues, had lunch with some.
- 10:23Speaker 3: Friends with the boot pitching on and work cards.
- 10:26Speaker 1: Then they went on a tour when I was still there. Alright,
- 10:28Speaker 1: So your friends two thirty lot story for you? Oh no,
- 10:31Speaker 1: they won't.
- 10:32Speaker 3: They left town tonight, Yes, fifteen training to San Francisco.
- 10:35Speaker 6: Oh yes, mister tells say that's a friend of mine
- 10:37Speaker 6: about bought tram ways to hear they'd give out a call. Okay,
- 10:39Speaker 6: tadna mister Shelton right away. What about a grand room?
- 10:45Speaker 1: Who's walking through your alibi?
- 10:47Speaker 3: Already told you my friends left town.
- 10:49Speaker 1: You can check with a guard at the movie studios.
- 10:51Speaker 1: You watch. We had a past, time punched in, time
- 10:54Speaker 1: punched out. It should be all there. You want to
- 10:56Speaker 1: call and check that to you?
- 10:58Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't mean to be rude, Josh.
- 11:01Speaker 1: You always did feel that registration because it's unfair, so,
- 11:04Speaker 1: of course crossly unfair. How do you suggest to keep
- 11:08Speaker 1: track of you?
- 11:08Speaker 3: Why do I have to be kept track of anyway?
- 11:10Speaker 1: You know as well as I do your record.
- 11:12Speaker 3: It was all a lie.
- 11:13Speaker 1: I hardly even touched the kid. I've paid my time anyway.
- 11:15Speaker 1: Why can't you give me a break every time something
- 11:18Speaker 1: happened to a kid? I have a cop on my name.
- 11:20Speaker 1: Were you in the seventh Fablue Park at every time
- 11:22Speaker 1: of the day? Grably?
- 11:23Speaker 3: Huh?
- 11:24Speaker 1: Were you in the seventh Fablute parts.
- 11:25Speaker 3: Of this as a matter of fact, there was? Yeah,
- 11:29Speaker 3: I took a walk there.
- 11:30Speaker 1: What time was that?
- 11:31Speaker 4: So?
- 11:31Speaker 1: No, I left my friends after lunch and came home
- 11:34Speaker 1: to freshen up about one point thirty.
- 11:36Speaker 3: I guess I was in a quark.
- 11:38Speaker 1: About one forty five, two o'clock on the state of
- 11:41Speaker 1: two minutes when you leave about two fifteen. You went
- 11:44Speaker 1: through the park to look your friends at the studio.
- 11:46Speaker 1: Exactly right? Yes, did you see two dark haired little
- 11:50Speaker 1: girls while you were in the party? Oh, I didn't
- 11:51Speaker 1: see anybody? Was by myself? Or be sure of that? Well,
- 11:55Speaker 1: of course, I'm sure if I did see him, it
- 11:57Speaker 1: wouldn't mean anything. I don't know that kids. I don't
- 12:00Speaker 1: get along with 'em, that's all. And another when Grandma
- 12:03Speaker 1: wert your mind's like Diane Anniversary party at oh, I
- 12:06Speaker 1: liked christ.
- 12:10Speaker 3: When I was saying, Sarge, and that's the truth. I
- 12:12Speaker 3: couldn't hurt a little kid. I'll never touched. No one
- 12:14Speaker 3: said you have Oh, I know, but I just want
- 12:17Speaker 3: you to know how I feel.
- 12:19Speaker 1: Maybe I don't get along with kids, but I couldn't
- 12:21Speaker 1: hurt 'em, little girls especially. I like kids.
- 12:24Speaker 3: Really, I just don't understand how I like him.
- 12:29Speaker 1: Little strange thing, isn't that?
- 12:30Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 12:31Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I see. Would he talk to studio? Yeah,
- 12:35Speaker 1: I checked with the girl. Wouldn't say Samberg was there
- 12:38Speaker 1: from two thirty to four thirty. He double jettized. Yeah,
- 12:41Speaker 1: he got verbody's good ten fifty five see him. The
- 12:47Speaker 1: four year old costume girls were still missing. A special
- 12:50Speaker 1: detail of men from homicide were as saying there were
- 12:52Speaker 1: general kansas of stories and homes in the park area.
- 12:55Speaker 1: All the residents were questioned. No one had seen the children.
- 12:59Speaker 1: Eleven twenty. Yeah, we headed back to the constant home.
- 13:04Speaker 1: I'm a lot of smokes, Joe, You've got some well
- 13:07Speaker 1: I'm out to the jug. Stuff ahead. I guess he
- 13:10Speaker 1: gets out there and a car in front of it.
- 13:15Speaker 3: That's stroking baits.
- 13:17Speaker 1: Car and let's see. Yeah, oh, here's walk coming out
- 13:21Speaker 1: of the Dutch. Uh it. Well, now you'll get out
- 13:25Speaker 1: of the office any well. They got a call from
- 13:27Speaker 1: the valley station a few minutes ago.
- 13:28Speaker 3: Yeah, the little girls have been farm.
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- 15:15Speaker 1: eleven twenty five pm. As soon as we got the
- 15:18Speaker 1: word that the four year old Carston twins had been found,
- 15:20Speaker 1: Ben and I drove back to the office where Inspector
- 15:22Speaker 1: Bowling throwed us In a few minutes past eleven PM,
- 15:26Speaker 1: a motorists out in the valley spotted the two small
- 15:28Speaker 1: girls walking hand in hand along a deserted side road
- 15:31Speaker 1: off then threw a boulevard. Their clothing was dirty and torn.
- 15:34Speaker 1: They were alone. The motors picked 'em up, took 'em
- 15:37Speaker 1: to the Valley Division station, where the girls were identified.
- 15:41Speaker 1: They sent out a partial cancelation on the APV. The
- 15:44Speaker 1: twin girls were taken to the Georgia Street Receeeding Hospital,
- 15:47Speaker 1: where they were treated for pets and bruises. When they
- 15:49Speaker 1: were returned to their home, the doctor reported that both
- 15:52Speaker 1: girls had been criminal in the western The search where
- 15:55Speaker 1: the abductor went on right The next day, Ben and
- 15:58Speaker 1: I drove out to the Carston home to talk to
- 15:59Speaker 1: the swing was Joan and tell her they had no
- 16:02Speaker 1: luck at all. They were still shaking up in the
- 16:03Speaker 1: excitement and shock of their experience. They went back to
- 16:06Speaker 1: the living room of their mother, Helen Carson.
- 16:08Speaker 5: That was the same thing this morning when I tried
- 16:10Speaker 5: to question, They just don't wanna talk about it.
- 16:13Speaker 1: Must have been horrible for her. Did he tell you
- 16:15Speaker 1: anything at all? Heaut, Well, Joan, just where she is,
- 16:18Speaker 1: just to talk about.
- 16:19Speaker 5: It, she says, The man's big. It's all I could
- 16:22Speaker 5: get out of the tell heverythings, a little more willing
- 16:24Speaker 5: to talk, though she's always been a little more forward
- 16:27Speaker 5: than Joan, and ever since they were baby.
- 16:29Speaker 1: Well, I see, Well, could she ever anything? Although what
- 16:31Speaker 1: your other little girl told you about the man?
- 16:33Speaker 5: He told his father the man had a mistake, probably
- 16:36Speaker 5: impressed her because my husband worries one too.
- 16:39Speaker 1: Pretty certain she's right about that. I usually tell them
- 16:42Speaker 1: she's making up things. Well, how about the other man
- 16:44Speaker 1: was dressed his clothes?
- 16:46Speaker 5: No, they didn't mess anything particularly, Tell he told me
- 16:49Speaker 5: the man was dirty? She said it two or three
- 16:52Speaker 5: times dirty, three clothes she might have met the man
- 16:55Speaker 5: had work.
- 16:56Speaker 1: Clothes on the so many expressions. I don't know. Well,
- 16:59Speaker 1: how did the man? I can't get your little girls
- 17:01Speaker 1: into the truck. You offer them candy or something like that.
- 17:03Speaker 5: Till he said something about a kitten. The man he
- 17:06Speaker 5: had a little kitten, and he was gonna give it
- 17:08Speaker 5: to them. I told him about that once. I told
- 17:10Speaker 5: him a thousand times.
- 17:12Speaker 1: Throw it away from the strangers, don't go with him. Yes, ma'am.
- 17:15Speaker 1: Does they tell anyone else at all about the man's assistance?
- 17:19Speaker 1: Till he said the man is big. I don't know
- 17:21Speaker 1: if you could count on that.
- 17:23Speaker 5: Everybody looks big to her. I talked to her in
- 17:25Speaker 5: all her but she just kept repeating the same story.
- 17:28Speaker 5: And I made them cry till.
- 17:30Speaker 1: Her they dressed.
- 17:31Speaker 4: It hurt them.
- 17:32Speaker 1: It's horrible for him. Yes, ma'am. Did he tell you
- 17:35Speaker 1: anything at all about the truck the man was dritting?
- 17:37Speaker 3: Maybe the color or something like that.
- 17:40Speaker 1: Well till he called it a big car, funny big car.
- 17:43Speaker 1: She said it was red with red pictures all over it.
- 17:46Speaker 1: He can't put much faith in that, though, Oh nothing, man, Well,
- 17:50Speaker 1: everything's red to Tilly now everything has.
- 17:52Speaker 5: Red pictures on her, just the phase she's going through
- 17:56Speaker 5: a few weeks agot was blue.
- 17:57Speaker 4: Everything was blue to her, and now it's red.
- 18:00Speaker 1: Everything's read y see, Well, you think they might be
- 18:02Speaker 1: able to tell you a little more in the day
- 18:04Speaker 1: or so after they've quieted down.
- 18:06Speaker 4: Oh, I don't know. I certainly hope.
- 18:09Speaker 1: So thank god it's all over their home safe.
- 18:13Speaker 4: That's all it counts.
- 18:14Speaker 1: Oh man, I'm there. There's more to it than that, right.
- 18:17Speaker 1: The man that did it still free. Monday, August nine,
- 18:24Speaker 1: the search for the suspect went on all of us.
- 18:26Speaker 1: But then from giving them homicide detail, we're pretty much
- 18:29Speaker 1: feeling our way in the dark. Repeated questions of residence,
- 18:32Speaker 1: whether in the area, whether your DestinE took place, met it.
- 18:34Speaker 1: It's nothing. Our two star witnesses, the four year old twins,
- 18:38Speaker 1: were able to contribute little. We stayed on it. Another
- 18:41Speaker 1: threetings of founding the pavement, knocking on doors and asking
- 18:44Speaker 1: them stock questions, but nowhere well. Well, most cases like
- 18:48Speaker 1: this one, the criminal enjoyed the the spoke advantage of
- 18:51Speaker 1: having victims who were unable because of their age to
- 18:54Speaker 1: termally identify 'em. Two of the August tenth and the
- 18:58Speaker 1: lother afternoon, we got a call from up Bernie's popper
- 19:00Speaker 1: or real estate anything in the West Hollywood area four
- 19:03Speaker 1: fifteen pm. Then then I go back to interviewer. Excuse
- 19:08Speaker 1: in the office, I just got to find out looking
- 19:10Speaker 1: about face all right ahead in the sell I just know.
- 19:13Speaker 5: Got to be here at some place, No, yesterday morning,
- 19:16Speaker 5: and remember they just think, oh here it is. Yeah,
- 19:22Speaker 5: now I he started to do business again. Well, I
- 19:28Speaker 5: don't know if it's gonna help you and in your
- 19:30Speaker 5: case officers, but I certainly think something should be done
- 19:32Speaker 5: about it.
- 19:34Speaker 1: Fragrant and it is the only way I can think.
- 19:36Speaker 1: I'm just fragrant. Well, did you like to tell us
- 19:38Speaker 1: about it?
- 19:38Speaker 3: Now?
- 19:39Speaker 5: No?
- 19:39Speaker 1: No, I saw him yesterday for one thing. So I
- 19:42Speaker 1: was coming back from lunch.
- 19:43Speaker 5: About two thirty in the afternoon Monday's always at late lunch.
- 19:47Speaker 1: Yes, I think.
- 19:48Speaker 3: I just pat in the.
- 19:49Speaker 5: Corner a few bots from the grammar school right up
- 19:51Speaker 5: above on Project Avenue, and I saw the truck park
- 19:55Speaker 5: in the truck iveline.
- 19:56Speaker 1: I was when to talking to some children, just stopped.
- 19:59Speaker 1: They were the top nam. What happened now?
- 20:03Speaker 5: What happened is not so much now, is just the
- 20:05Speaker 5: way the truck driver they was talking to these children
- 20:08Speaker 5: and must then at least twenty feet of 'e'em, and
- 20:10Speaker 5: even I.
- 20:11Speaker 1: Could hear it. What was happening. He was buying it
- 20:13Speaker 1: just so s I couldn't understand that the young man
- 20:16Speaker 1: talking lit he talks like that.
- 20:18Speaker 5: Every time it thot that they out team made you
- 20:20Speaker 5: think of flagment to segments?
- 20:24Speaker 1: Was there any point in the way they told me
- 20:25Speaker 1: the children to copping? I mean, was he mad at them?
- 20:28Speaker 1: You he sober? Or or were they m silks so fine?
- 20:31Speaker 1: Or they just they did the felts. Now my children
- 20:34Speaker 1: didn't like it, and he told him I only name
- 20:37Speaker 1: that anymore. I really think I'd check up on him. Yes, well,
- 20:40Speaker 1: can you tell us a little bit w else about it?
- 20:43Speaker 4: Oh?
- 20:43Speaker 1: Excuson? Do right? How do you do?
- 20:48Speaker 4: How do you then top them? Or?
- 20:49Speaker 1: I hope you? Oh how do you do?
- 20:50Speaker 7: I like the tomils you You showed me the white
- 20:53Speaker 7: blake last weekend.
- 20:54Speaker 1: Oh yeah, of course it's topping to him. I gotta
- 20:57Speaker 1: jall in Norwich, wasn't it. Yeah that's right.
- 21:00Speaker 5: Uh.
- 21:00Speaker 1: The wife and I certainly did like if she wants
- 21:02Speaker 1: me to put it the post on it started to say.
- 21:05Speaker 1: I guess well, I know, its.
- 21:07Speaker 5: Matter of fact, I saved him Monday. It's except like
- 21:09Speaker 5: I told you say, he's so fast. Course you had
- 21:12Speaker 5: a substantial down payment.
- 21:13Speaker 1: To make at the time.
- 21:15Speaker 7: Oh yeah, it didn't take me if he was able
- 21:18Speaker 7: to get the money together. It's too bad.
- 21:22Speaker 1: They ain't certainly love the place. Well it's too bad,
- 21:26Speaker 1: I guess, Oh very sorry, and that's Thomason. Wasn't anything
- 21:29Speaker 1: I can do.
- 21:29Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I I well, uh, well thanks anyway, man,
- 21:34Speaker 7: I guess who'll keep working?
- 21:36Speaker 1: Something may turn on. Oh I'm sure, well there's a
- 21:38Speaker 1: starving buy again, miss Thomason. Yeah buy, Oh as everybody
- 21:49Speaker 1: owns somethings and nothing.
- 21:50Speaker 3: They weren't houses that.
- 21:51Speaker 1: They don't show the money, you know, want it? The
- 21:54Speaker 1: truck driver that you saw out no, yeah, well after.
- 21:57Speaker 5: Hearing that talking, he is, and I just copy down
- 21:59Speaker 5: the license number the truck had got rite here in
- 22:01Speaker 5: my dress.
- 22:03Speaker 1: Oh how about the truck driver man? The game good looking?
- 22:06Speaker 1: You say it went dead way? He acted to those children?
- 22:10Speaker 1: Well well, well usual about his appearance.
- 22:12Speaker 5: Oh now, the in the buy the five miles, he
- 22:15Speaker 5: was tall, dark, having a stage times in one more thing,
- 22:19Speaker 5: he truck is ding with me. There were pictures too
- 22:23Speaker 5: here on the side, thirty animals.
- 22:25Speaker 1: I think did you notice the color? Oh yeah, so
- 22:28Speaker 1: who had ei pictures? Who had h four forty five pm.
- 22:36Speaker 1: We took the licensed number of the truck that's when
- 22:38Speaker 1: these hopper had given us and go back to the
- 22:39Speaker 1: office and checked the two DMV with found the truck
- 22:42Speaker 1: was registered to a commercial baking firm in the south
- 22:45Speaker 1: end of town. Through their personnel department and their dispatcher's office,
- 22:49Speaker 1: we got the name and the address of the employee
- 22:51Speaker 1: who was driving the truck the same day when these
- 22:53Speaker 1: hopper had spotted the driver talking to the school children.
- 22:56Speaker 1: His name was Lester Wileye. We checked a little further out,
- 23:00Speaker 1: but he was driving the same truck to day the
- 23:01Speaker 1: costume twins were abducted. They called into R and I
- 23:05Speaker 1: while he had no criminal record six thirty pm, who
- 23:09Speaker 1: located the suspect of his home, an old style, good
- 23:12Speaker 1: and white bungalow on the edge of the Highland Park district.
- 23:14Speaker 1: He sat in the dining room and drank some kind
- 23:16Speaker 1: of sweet wine from a large water glass while we
- 23:19Speaker 1: questioned him. Uh, it's sure stupid, I mean, huh, I
- 23:22Speaker 1: didn't even ask if you wanted some of this full
- 23:24Speaker 1: fact you why? I like they had to explain about
- 23:26Speaker 1: your language in front of those school kids.
- 23:29Speaker 3: MM doesn't explain.
- 23:35Speaker 1: A bunch of those kids are hanging out a truck,
- 23:38Speaker 1: or maybe they wanted to get in and grab some
- 23:40Speaker 1: of the cakes and stuff. I read 'em off it
- 23:41Speaker 1: so and I still didn't explain the fifty language while
- 23:44Speaker 1: he mm, I don't know know, I wasn't feeling good
- 23:47Speaker 1: that day by a let a few cuss words slip,
- 23:52Speaker 1: I didn't mean anything, But I don't like kids to
- 23:54Speaker 1: usually make deliveries up around.
- 23:56Speaker 6: That school area.
- 23:56Speaker 1: Really, that's a high h I'd get around cart a bit,
- 24:00Speaker 1: not what they tell us. Don where you were? Huh,
- 24:02Speaker 1: you've had no business the neighborhood at at school. Your
- 24:04Speaker 1: delivery rocks on the other end of town, so I
- 24:06Speaker 1: can't drive on a wan. Huh, I gets the delivery's maide, Well,
- 24:09Speaker 1: they's guarding a by. Like to know what you were
- 24:11Speaker 1: doing here from that neighborhood. It's on the runchar go
- 24:14Speaker 1: up to see a friend. I got a friend right
- 24:16Speaker 1: there in school. What's the matter anyway? And you think
- 24:24Speaker 1: you've had enough in there, but cannot tell me what
- 24:27Speaker 1: I have to do in my house. It's my house.
- 24:30Speaker 1: I want a glass of wine, I have it. You're
- 24:31Speaker 1: not telling me what to do. Alright, Well, I just
- 24:33Speaker 1: take it easy, take it easy. Nothing. I talk to
- 24:34Speaker 1: you too long enough. There's a door. You're not coming
- 24:37Speaker 1: in here telling me what to do. But they get
- 24:38Speaker 1: your coat. We'll talk downtown. We'll not talking any place. Now,
- 24:41Speaker 1: get out, Get out of his house right now. Afraid
- 24:44Speaker 1: your allbody's not gonna hold up worthy. Say hey, I
- 24:47Speaker 1: don't know what you're talking about. You tryna frame me,
- 24:50Speaker 1: and you think I know that that doesn't make much sense.
- 24:52Speaker 1: Why should we wanna frame you don't know what you're
- 24:54Speaker 1: getting at? Well, just what you're getting at those two
- 24:57Speaker 1: little girls last week. You're gonna say I took 'em,
- 25:00Speaker 1: you know, say I did things to 'em. Well, I
- 25:02Speaker 1: didn't had anything to do with it, didn't you. Oh no, No,
- 25:07Speaker 1: I didn't. H I'm sorry. Let me just sit down
- 25:15Speaker 1: and mean what I said, cause I just got nervous. Sure, well,
- 25:18Speaker 1: I understand.
- 25:21Speaker 4: That.
- 25:21Speaker 2: That's why.
- 25:21Speaker 1: I mean. You get a couple of glasses, huh, I
- 25:23Speaker 1: have some of this wine. One job good anything. You
- 25:27Speaker 1: just like to have your straightens out and a couple
- 25:29Speaker 1: of things, and we'll let you run. Yeah, I come
- 25:32Speaker 1: out getting in the country A time between twelve noon
- 25:34Speaker 1: and eleven pm and uh Saturday, that's to day somebody
- 25:40Speaker 1: picked up those two little girls in it? Yeah that's
- 25:42Speaker 1: a welly. I don't know, just making deliveries like I
- 25:48Speaker 1: always do up to eleven o'clock at then I was
- 25:51Speaker 1: a little late. Yeah, not unusual one, that's soll uh
- 25:55Speaker 1: not any working day. So that's good wine. I mighta
- 26:05Speaker 1: been there the park where if kids weren't mean anything. Oh,
- 26:08Speaker 1: I'd get around quite a bit lot of deliveries to make.
- 26:12Speaker 1: So I come on, how about it? Wailly?
- 26:14Speaker 6: Hm?
- 26:14Speaker 1: Did you grab those two little gays? Want to? I
- 26:23Speaker 1: like miss up enough?
- 26:24Speaker 2: Get out my house, get my house, I like.
- 26:26Speaker 1: Them, get 'em on 'em? Yeah, yeah, have a pool.
- 26:31Speaker 2: But you know that?
- 26:32Speaker 1: And what about it? Wiley?
- 26:34Speaker 3: So you was no good at tell?
- 26:37Speaker 1: Do you wanna tell us about it?
- 26:39Speaker 3: Well?
- 26:39Speaker 1: I didn't mean it to tell you didn't mean it.
- 26:44Speaker 1: Just once in a while something goes wrong with me.
- 26:48Speaker 1: I like kids like 'em too much. I guess.
- 26:53Speaker 3: I don't mean to hurt 'em.
- 26:55Speaker 1: You ready to go in there? Anything you say?
- 26:59Speaker 4: So?
- 27:00Speaker 1: Uh, I wouldn't huh grand the kids or so. I
- 27:02Speaker 1: was in my coat pocket and I lost it glad
- 27:06Speaker 1: you lost wife pocket and I I'm gonna kill 'em.
- 27:10Speaker 1: Uh how long is.
- 27:13Speaker 2: Uh? Story you had just heard was true only the
- 27:19Speaker 2: mans which I used to protect the linoson. On December tenth,
- 27:23Speaker 2: trial was held in Superior Court, Department eighty seventh, City
- 27:26Speaker 2: and County of Los Angeles, State of California.
- 27:28Speaker 1: In a moment, the results of that trial now here
- 27:31Speaker 1: is our star Jack Webb. Thank you friends. As you
- 27:35Speaker 1: might have heard me say before on dragnet, we try
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- 28:15Speaker 2: Lester Wiley waived his rights to a preliminary hearing, and
- 28:18Speaker 2: at his arraignment in Superior Court, he entered a plea
- 28:21Speaker 2: of guilty to one count of kidnapping and one count
- 28:24Speaker 2: of child molesting. He received the sentence as prescribed by
- 28:28Speaker 2: law and is now serving his term in the state penitentiary.
- 28:39Speaker 2: You have just heard drag met a series of authentic
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