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- 0:02Gina Kaye (Host): Welcome to UK HealthCast, a podcast
- 0:05presented by UK HealthCare.
- 0:07I'm Gina Kaye.
- 0:08And joining me today is Dr.
- 0:10Julie Lang, breast cancer surgeon and Medical Director of the
- 0:14Comprehensive Breast Care Center at the UK Markey Cancer Center.
- 0:20Our topic today is the future of breast care in Kentucky.
- 0:24Dr.
- 0:25Lang, thank you so much for joining us today.
- 0:28Dr. Julie Lang:
- 0:28Thanks, Gina.
- 0:28Great to be here.
- 0:30Host: All right.
- 0:30Well, let's just dive into our questions.
- 0:32I know we have a lot of information to cover.
- 0:35So to start us off, you've just arrived at UK as the Section Chief of Breast Surgery.
- 0:41What excites you the most about this next chapter?
- 0:45Dr. Julie Lang:
- 0:45We are a growing dynamic program within the UK Markey Comprehensive Cancer Center.
- 0:51We provide state-of-the-art advanced breast cancer care to
- 0:53the Commonwealth of Kentucky.
- 0:55We have a dedicated team of specialists, including breast imagers, breast
- 0:58medical-oncologists, radiation oncologists, and are the only center in
- 1:02Kentucky with four fellowship-trained breast surgical oncologists.
- 1:06Host: That's exciting.
- 1:07What are your top priorities then during your first year?
- 1:11Dr. Julie Lang:
- 1:11My top priority is meeting the needs of our population by reducing the
- 1:15interval between screening mammography and further diagnostic workup for
- 1:18women with abnormal mammograms.
- 1:21This will allow us to reduce our time to treatment and greater serve our local
- 1:24patient population here in Lexington and beyond in the entire Commonwealth.
- 1:29We will ensure that our breast center is prioritizing the needs of
- 1:32patients and primary care doctors to get patients access into our breast
- 1:36care center in a timely manner.
- 1:38Expanding our clinical trial offerings to better serve our patient
- 1:41population is also top of mind.
- 1:44This will establish the University of Kentucky as the premier location
- 1:47in Kentucky for the treatment of locally advanced and metastatic breast
- 1:50cancer patients seeking therapies only available on clinical trials and will
- 1:55help improve upon the current standard of care by continuously optimizing
- 1:59therapies for cancer patients.
- 2:01One of our breast surgeons, Dr.
- 2:02Ibrahim, and I are preparing to bring robotic nipple-sparing mastectomy as an
- 2:07option at the University of Kentucky.
- 2:10This new procedure was recently approved by the US FDA.
- 2:13We are planning to offer this advanced technique that requires
- 2:16specialized training, credentialing, and equipment that is currently
- 2:20only available at a small number of centers around the country.
- 2:23This procedure offers improved surgical precision, reduced visible
- 2:27scarring, and enhanced preservation of nipple sensation and blood flow.
- 2:32It allows surgeons to operate through small inconspicuous incisions that are
- 2:35often placed away from the breast toward the armpit, leading to better cosmetic
- 2:40options and potentially faster recovery
- 2:43Host: That's fantastic.
- 2:45This next question is one of my favorites.
- 2:47What inspired you to become a breast cancer surgeon?
- 2:51Dr. Julie Lang:
- 2:51I really enjoy how multidisciplinary the care of breast cancer patients is.
- 2:57As a breast surgeon, we get to see the patient first and help them at
- 3:00a point in their lives that they consider to be a major crisis.
- 3:04For many patients, this is the first time that they are confronted
- 3:07with their own mortality.
- 3:08They were well, they had an abnormal mammogram.
- 3:12And here they are in my office seeing a surgeon for the first time.
- 3:15It's very scary for them.
- 3:17So, patients develop a close relationship with their breast surgeons
- 3:21since we are there for them to guide them through this difficult time.
- 3:24And in many cases, surgery is their first course of cancer treatment.
- 3:28I did my residency at the University of California San Francisco and got to see
- 3:32the difference that it makes when a highly expert team of breast cancer specialists
- 3:37come together to provide multidisciplinary treatment where team members really
- 3:40work together to take care of patients, provide the highest level of expertise,
- 3:44and contribute to life-saving research.
- 3:47I also saw this pattern of care at the MD Anderson Cancer Center where
- 3:50I did my fellowship, one of the top cancer centers in the country.
- 3:55At academic medical centers, this kind of expertise really comes
- 3:58together to provide the highest level of quality care for patients.
- 4:03Host: Your career combines surgery, research, education, and leadership,
- 4:08which by the way is a lot.
- 4:11How have all of those experiences shaped your approach to patient care?
- 4:16Dr. Julie Lang:
- 4:16I think that these experiences are really very complementary and help
- 4:20to strive for continuous improvement across the care of cancer patients.
- 4:25By striving for excellence in surgery and using research to try to save
- 4:29patients' lives, in every aspect of my job, we're fighting cancer
- 4:33and advocating for the patient.
- 4:35Education is a natural part of a surgeon's career.
- 4:38We're privileged to have outstanding surgical trainees and medical students
- 4:41rotating with us and contributing to our patients' care, and we
- 4:45learn from our trainees as well.
- 4:47Host: Dr.
- 4:47Lang, in addition to clinical care, you also have an interest
- 4:51in breast cancer research.
- 4:53Tell us more about that.
- 4:55Dr. Julie Lang:
- 4:55I am a clinical trialist and a clinical translational
- 4:57researcher as well as a surgeon.
- 5:00I have enrolled patients on therapeutic clinical trials evaluating surgical
- 5:04interventions as well as drug interventions such as chemotherapy.
- 5:08I have also designed and carried out some clinical trials in collaboration
- 5:13with my teams, which we have published.
- 5:15My work on circulating tumor cells, rare cancer cells shed into the bloodstream
- 5:20of breast cancer patients, involved developing methods for sequencing the RNA
- 5:25of these rare cells to better understand the molecular biology of cancer.
- 5:30Some of my lab's research was used to support a successful U.S.
- 5:34Food and Drug Administration application for a company.
- 5:38My laboratory has been studying inflammatory breast cancer, one of
- 5:42the most aggressive forms of breast cancer, and we successfully made a
- 5:46new mouse model in which we can study experimental therapeutics to see
- 5:49which medicines might work better than what we currently use in the hopes
- 5:55of trying to eradicate this cancer.
- 5:57Patients expect that most doctors are working on better treatments
- 6:00for cancer, but in reality, most physicians in practice do not
- 6:04have very much time for research.
- 6:06We at the Markey Cancer Center are committed to improving outcomes for
- 6:10breast cancer patients by constantly seeking to improve all aspects of
- 6:13breast cancer care via clinical outcomes research, therapeutic clinical
- 6:18trials, and basic scientific studies to make important new observations
- 6:22that can lead to future therapies.
- 6:24Gina Kaye (Host): Earlier when I asked you what excites you the
- 6:27most about this next chapter, you spoke about multidisciplinary care.
- 6:32So what does that look like in your practice and why do
- 6:35you feel it is so important?
- 6:38Dr. Julie Lang:
- 6:38Multidisciplinary care is when we bring expertise to the table
- 6:42that is relevant to the patient.
- 6:43And this includes a variety of different specialties: breast surgery,
- 6:48medical oncology, radiation oncology, expert breast imagers, nuclear
- 6:54medicine, pathology, expertise in psychology, genetics, integrative
- 7:01medicine, and social services.
- 7:04All these team members come together and play a critical role
- 7:07for our breast cancer patients.
- 7:09Not all patients may require each of these specialties, but only at a comprehensive
- 7:13cancer center like the Markey Cancer Center do we have all these elements
- 7:17working together where we can make them available for patients and provide them
- 7:23with all the care that they will need.
- 7:25Host: Perfect.
- 7:25How do you balance then achieving the best cancer outcomes while also preserving
- 7:30quality of life and cosmetic results?
- 7:33Dr. Julie Lang:
- 7:33Achieving the best cancer outcomes, including prolonging life, avoiding
- 7:38recurrence of the breast cancer.
- 7:41But increasingly, it's been noted that we should not do this at
- 7:45the expense of quality of life.
- 7:47Quality of life is very important.
- 7:49And so where there are opportunities to avoid over-treatment of breast
- 7:53cancer patients, the whole field of breast cancer treatment has
- 7:57been very interested in this.
- 7:59And in recent years, we've seen de-escalation.
- 8:02For example, in surgery, there are some patients that we can omit checking
- 8:06lymph nodes, whereas in the past, much more radical surgeries were done.
- 8:11So, guided by clinical trials, we've seen a progressive improvement in
- 8:15outcomes for breast cancer patients, while at the same time, we've been able
- 8:19to de-escalate or remove certain parts of treatment where we can, where it did
- 8:25not actually produce better results.
- 8:28We work hand in hand with other specialties, and a great example of
- 8:32this is the collaborative nature of breast surgeons and plastic surgeons.
- 8:37When a patient desires breast reconstruction for mastectomy,
- 8:41we plan the incisions together.
- 8:42We make a flight plan so we know what the other specialist is
- 8:46thinking, and we work together.
- 8:48How can we get a widely negative margin but also preserve the most
- 8:51aesthetic form or contour to the breast?
- 8:54And this is a really exciting part of being a breast surgeon.
- 8:57The collaborative nature of the specialty, it really benefits the patients
- 9:02Host: Wonderful.
- 9:03Talk to us a little bit then about how clinical trials expand treatment
- 9:07options for patients at UK Markey
- 9:11Dr. Julie Lang:
- 9:11Clinical trials are very important when there are patients that have
- 9:14advanced disease, breast cancers that have spread to other organs, they're
- 9:18known as metastatic breast cancer, and those patients are not usually
- 9:22considered curable at that point.
- 9:24However, medicine is always striving to do better.
- 9:27And nowadays, we actually have highly effective therapies that
- 9:30were not available previously.
- 9:32So, we're seeing durable or prolonged survival in many
- 9:36more patients than in the past.
- 9:38Clinical trials are what have brought that to us, so we seek
- 9:42to have a diverse portfolio of clinical trials for our patients.
- 9:46This gives advanced cancer patients the chance at living longer, and
- 9:51it gives us a better opportunity to improve therapies for patients.
- 9:55This will also apply to patients with earlier stage diseases.
- 9:59For example, situations in which we would have a patient that might
- 10:04need to have a mastectomy because the cancer is of a sufficient size
- 10:08where lumpectomy is not possible.
- 10:10But with chemotherapy before surgery, also known as neoadjuvant chemotherapy,
- 10:16we can shrink the tumor down and convert that patient to a situation
- 10:20where a lumpectomy could be offered.
- 10:22So, it's only by having these types of clinical trials available can
- 10:26we progress the field and have better options for our patients.
- 10:31And so, clinical trials are really very important.
- 10:34And we hope to make, the UK Markey Cancer Center the premier clinical
- 10:39trial center in the state of Kentucky.
- 10:42Gina Kaye (Host): So then tell us, how do you hope to expand access to
- 10:44breast cancer care across Kentucky?
- 10:48Dr. Julie Lang:
- 10:48Interestingly, around 60% of our patients come to us from outside of Lexington.
- 10:55The majority of our patients are traveling one, two, three, four hours to come
- 11:00see us at the Markey Cancer Center.
- 11:02We are collaborating with the Markey Cancer Network in terms
- 11:08of collaborating with sites that UK is affiliated with, as well as
- 11:14community-based sites, to refer patients to us needing advanced cancer care.
- 11:19And in some cases, patients receive all of their care at the UK Markey
- 11:22Cancer Center, and we're pleased to take care of these patients and
- 11:27provide them with these services.
- 11:29In other circumstances, patients wish to have their breast surgery with us
- 11:33but might return closer to home for some portions of their care, such
- 11:37as for medical radiation oncology.
- 11:40Host: You know, optimally eradicating breast cancer would be job one.
- 11:45But if you could change one thing about how breast cancer is diagnosed
- 11:50or treated today, what would it be?
- 11:53Dr. Julie Lang:
- 11:53We need to make this process be more patient-centered.
- 11:56When a woman goes for a routine screening mammogram, this
- 12:00should be very straightforward.
- 12:01This should be at a place that's close to her home, have a mammogram.
- 12:06She shouldn't wait more than 10 or 15 minutes for that test, and we
- 12:10should be able to provide timely notification to patients about results
- 12:14so that people are not waiting.
- 12:16The waiting often is the hardest part for our patients, and we are striving
- 12:20to do better to tackle that problem.
- 12:22Host: That's great.
- 12:23What continues to inspire you after so many years caring
- 12:27for breast cancer patients?
- 12:29Dr. Julie Lang:
- 12:29What's incredible is that one in eight women gets breast cancer in their lives,
- 12:34and more than 95% of these women do not have a strong family history or genetic
- 12:40components to their breast cancer.
- 12:42So, this is such an important public health problem.
- 12:45And so, I am inspired by the patients themselves, seeing so
- 12:49many patients struggling with their breast cancer diagnosis.
- 12:54And we at the Markey Cancer Center need to take on this responsibility and ensure
- 12:59that they get the very best of care.
- 13:02Host: As we wrap up our discussion today, Dr.
- 13:04Lang, what message would you like to leave with patients and
- 13:07families who may be listening today?
- 13:10Dr. Julie Lang:
- 13:10The treatment of breast cancer is getting better.
- 13:13I've seen remarkable changes in the span of my career.
- 13:16I've been in practice for 19 years now, and treatments have gotten less invasive,
- 13:22and outcomes with care by the medical and radiation oncologists have gotten
- 13:28better with fewer side effects as well.
- 13:30An example with radiation oncology is that, for many patients, it used
- 13:34to be six weeks of radiation therapy.
- 13:37Then, clinical trials show that it could be three weeks for many patients.
- 13:41And in recent years, clinical trials show that many patients could be
- 13:45treated with five treatment days.
- 13:48So, clinical trials have really made major advances in the field, and we're
- 13:52able to deescalate or do less and provide better outcomes for patients.
- 14:00The field of breast cancer is ever-changing.
- 14:03So if a patient had a family member who was treated in decades past, they should
- 14:09know that what treatment looks like today might be a little bit different.
- 14:13And so, the future of breast cancer care is really very bright.
- 14:17Host: That is wonderful news.
- 14:20Dr.
- 14:20Lang, thank you so much, not only for the very important work that you are
- 14:24doing on a daily basis, but thank you very much for your time today on such
- 14:29an important and informative topic.
- 14:31Dr. Julie Lang:
- 14:31Thank you, Gina.
- 14:32Host: Thank you for listening to UK HealthCast.
- 14:35For more information about today's episode, please visit markey.uky.edu.
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- 14:49Thanks for listening.