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- 0:00Speaker 1: Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the NFL
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- 1:47Speaker 1: Can I start this show negatively and then we'll bring
- 1:50Speaker 1: it back to positive somehow throughout the show. It had
- 1:53Speaker 1: to start. It's a week of gratitude, It's a week
- 1:55Speaker 1: of That's why I'll get it out of get you mind.
- 1:58Speaker 1: You can start, well, do this, and then after that
- 2:01Speaker 1: we'll just be grateful from here on out. Cool. Yeah,
- 2:04Speaker 1: nothing pisses me off more, dude, than when you order
- 2:07Speaker 1: a coffee on Uber Eats or Postmates and you spend
- 2:11Speaker 1: way too much money for coffee. They bring you the coffee.
- 2:14Speaker 1: You get an ice coffee and it's filled to the
- 2:16Speaker 1: brim with ice, and there's like six ounces of coffee
- 2:20Speaker 1: in there. Is that not insane?
- 2:23Speaker 2: Yeah? Week week of grain.
- 2:26Speaker 1: It's it's okay to be negative in this small pocket.
- 2:29Speaker 1: After this, I will be grateful.
- 2:30Speaker 2: We're in a world where we get to be so
- 2:32Speaker 2: lazy that we can just go to where we want
- 2:34Speaker 2: to go and think, I want an iced coffee. I
- 2:37Speaker 2: don't want to get hot coffee that we have here
- 2:39Speaker 2: at the shop, Like I don't want to give me
- 2:40Speaker 2: an ice coffee. Let me just pull out my smartphone
- 2:43Speaker 2: and dial in. Somebody's gonna go pick up the coffee
- 2:46Speaker 2: for you, bring it to you. You can throw them
- 2:48Speaker 2: a dollar, a couple bucks tip, whatever it is. But
- 2:50Speaker 2: we get you can get ice coffee in your hands
- 2:53Speaker 2: like that, right, and we're we're talking about ice to
- 2:57Speaker 2: the brim it's not done perfectly again and a week
- 3:00Speaker 2: of gratitude.
- 3:01Speaker 1: Right, and I'm gonna say it again. We're using this
- 3:05Speaker 1: small fucking pocket to say things were pissed about so
- 3:08Speaker 1: we can have even more gratitude. What makes great things
- 3:11Speaker 1: so great, it's the lulls in life that make you
- 3:13Speaker 1: appreciate when you have success and you get over these
- 3:16Speaker 1: milestones in life. Okay, so I'm having I'm bringing us
- 3:19Speaker 1: down a little bit so I can bring us up
- 3:21Speaker 1: later and we be like, Wow, how extra grateful are
- 3:24Speaker 1: we because we had that pocket of negativity. I'm gonna
- 3:27Speaker 1: give you another one though, because you say something you
- 3:29Speaker 1: order on the app, and all of a sudden, we're
- 3:31Speaker 1: giving out a little tip. That's great. If I order
- 3:33Speaker 1: one singular coffee, that coffee's five thirty eight from the
- 3:36Speaker 1: coffee place I like to go to. Then there's a
- 3:39Speaker 1: over each charge. I get it. You're running a business.
- 3:41Speaker 1: And then it says tip three dollars, four dollars, five dollars.
- 3:45Speaker 2: We gotta get that out of there.
- 3:46Speaker 1: That shit's gotta go because I'll go custom every single
- 3:49Speaker 1: time and put one fucking dollar because that is twenty percent,
- 3:53Speaker 1: maybe a little less than thirty eight cents, but I
- 3:54Speaker 1: don't do cents around here. Yeah, okay, but if you're
- 3:58Speaker 1: if you are a barista, all right, if you have
- 4:01Speaker 1: the prestigious name of a barista and you see an
- 4:02Speaker 1: aberit's order and it's an ice coffee, put half ice
- 4:07Speaker 1: in there? Half ice? Did you check extra ice on
- 4:11Speaker 1: your coffee? Come on, sir, you know I didn't.
- 4:13Speaker 4: Oh that's weird because they gave you enough ice to
- 4:15Speaker 4: fill a fucking baby pool with.
- 4:17Speaker 1: That's right, because we're being a little negative right now.
- 4:20Speaker 4: What the fuck is that?
- 4:21Speaker 1: What the fuck is that dude there? Okay? Is he
- 4:24Speaker 1: we have anything negative to say before we go to
- 4:27Speaker 1: full gratitude from here to even through the bus an episode? Anybody? Yep, Mitch?
- 4:32Speaker 3: Sometimes when you order, I just ordered nice stands this weekend.
- 4:35Speaker 3: The amount of pieces that are in that it took
- 4:37Speaker 3: me and Brooke two and a half hours to build
- 4:40Speaker 3: two night stands. It was fun little bonding moment, but
- 4:43Speaker 3: it's like, can we just lower the parts?
- 4:46Speaker 1: Sorry, lower the parts, Lower the parts, make it easier. Also,
- 4:51Speaker 1: stop giving me that little ass screwdriver. Dude, all right,
- 4:55Speaker 1: stop doing that. Like, if you're gonna send something, say hey,
- 4:58Speaker 1: you need tools for this, or do make it where
- 5:00Speaker 1: I can screw the ship in myself right, love it?
- 5:04Speaker 1: Anybody else want to bitch?
- 5:06Speaker 2: I kind of want to bitch.
- 5:07Speaker 1: Which bitch, dude, because we had to we had to
- 5:09Speaker 1: hit We had a we have to hit bottom floor
- 5:11Speaker 1: right now in order to feel gratitude for Thanksgiving.
- 5:14Speaker 5: Bitch dude.
- 5:17Speaker 2: F my kids. Okay, Nebraska got their ass pummeled this weekend.
- 5:21Speaker 2: We'll cover that college football. But rue, sweetheart, she gets
- 5:26Speaker 2: sick in the middle of the night on Friday. That's bullshit.
- 5:28Speaker 2: We do we do a little sleepover or Saturday whenever
- 5:32Speaker 2: it was, do a little sleepover. She wakes up at
- 5:35Speaker 2: four in the morning and just starts projectif vomiting all
- 5:38Speaker 2: over the bed. Got some on chorro. I get woken up.
- 5:42Speaker 2: My wife looks at me crazy because I just want
- 5:43Speaker 2: to lay a towel down. I'm like, let's just get
- 5:45Speaker 2: a towel down. We'll just keep it moving.
- 5:47Speaker 1: That takes I've done that.
- 5:49Speaker 2: Like big Daddy, get the newspapers out, will cover. She's like,
- 5:51Speaker 2: are you serious, Let's just get we we gotta get
- 5:54Speaker 2: back to sleep. It's it's like thirty or four in
- 5:56Speaker 2: the morning. She's like, yes, all sleep is so important,
- 6:00Speaker 2: Like it's on my side. You don't have to lay
- 6:02Speaker 2: in it. Look, you want to change your sheets, let's
- 6:04Speaker 2: change of sheets.
- 6:06Speaker 1: Both you kind of get mad at each other and
- 6:08Speaker 1: then just go to sleep kind of and then wake
- 6:09Speaker 1: up in the morning and just.
- 6:10Speaker 2: Doing all and doing all the breasts like.
- 6:13Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, breaths, breaths, speak volumes and marriages with kids.
- 6:19Speaker 2: I like, look at him. Come on, when we get
- 6:20Speaker 2: off the bed, mom wants to change your sheets.
- 6:22Speaker 1: And she just threw up. She's like still wiping her face.
- 6:24Speaker 1: Go ahead and get off. That's good, dude, Fuck your kids.
- 6:28Speaker 1: You're saying that, I'm saying. Those are the words I said.
- 6:30Speaker 1: Half I said, I said half if your kids, you're right,
- 6:34Speaker 1: You're right. That was fucked up by me. And because
- 6:37Speaker 1: I'm being a nasty bitch right now, let.
- 6:39Speaker 2: Me you've been down and out. You've been down and
- 6:41Speaker 2: out for for quite a minute.
- 6:43Speaker 1: Right, It's tough for me to be grateful when I'm
- 6:45Speaker 1: learning how to walk again. I've spent seventy two hours
- 6:47Speaker 1: literally in my.
- 6:48Speaker 2: Head, I'm thinking, if you're just holding the ice coffee
- 6:51Speaker 2: in your hand, you're like, man, all the ship that
- 6:52Speaker 2: I've went through.
- 6:53Speaker 1: It's so nice that ice coffee, right, but we've got it.
- 6:57Speaker 1: I don't want to explain myself again. You know what
- 6:58Speaker 1: we're doing right now? Jack, bitch about something, dude.
- 7:03Speaker 6: Oh, I'm not even to bitch about something. I mean,
- 7:08Speaker 6: but I'm gonna be nasty. Clump is such a fraud.
- 7:11Speaker 6: First time that, Yeah, the Fall's winning Gainesville in twenty
- 7:16Speaker 6: plus years. It just happens to be. Weeks after Clump
- 7:20Speaker 6: decides to be a Florida fan, come in here and he's.
- 7:22Speaker 7: Like, dude, He's like, we're just waiting.
- 7:25Speaker 6: We're good. We got Kiffin coming. And and Clump had
- 7:29Speaker 6: said one thing hadn't been like, hey, man, I was wrong.
- 7:32Speaker 6: I hadn't said this. He took Florida money line. Florida
- 7:36Speaker 6: got their shit kicked in, pushed in, kicked in, kicked in,
- 7:41Speaker 6: pushed in, kicked in, push And I don't know. The
- 7:44Speaker 6: first thing I said to Clump when I can was
- 7:46Speaker 6: just pretty nasty. And it's just nice to know that
- 7:49Speaker 6: he is truly the reason that Florida will probably be
- 7:52Speaker 6: in the shitter for the next five years.
- 7:55Speaker 1: Ever since Clump has become a Florida fan. They have
- 7:58Speaker 1: done things they haven't done since two thousand and three.
- 8:00Speaker 1: And let's lose a Tennessee at home.
- 8:02Speaker 6: Yeah, anything you want to say.
- 8:04Speaker 1: Clump, clumb, bitch about something, dude, don't say anything nice,
- 8:08Speaker 1: but we could get just say something nasty.
- 8:10Speaker 8: I don't have anything really to bitch about, but I
- 8:12Speaker 8: do believe in karma and like bad vibes and celebrating
- 8:16Speaker 8: the Florida win is great. But Tennessee's about to get
- 8:18Speaker 8: their ship packed in by.
- 8:20Speaker 7: Vandy on Saturday.
- 8:21Speaker 8: And Diego is going to win the Heisman Trophy after
- 8:25Speaker 8: scoring five.
- 8:26Speaker 2: God, we got a college football show.
- 8:27Speaker 1: College football, college football show. We'll talk about it later.
- 8:33Speaker 1: Should we get everyone feel good?
- 8:35Speaker 5: Short?
- 8:36Speaker 1: Fuck Porch Pirates, dude, just fuck fuck them. They come over,
- 8:39Speaker 1: they steal your packages, they run away.
- 8:41Speaker 3: That's so crazy that people still do that ship porch.
- 8:45Speaker 7: But yeah, Porch Bright.
- 8:47Speaker 1: A lot of conversations on the podcast right now, a
- 8:49Speaker 1: lot of combos.
- 8:50Speaker 6: Hey, just fuck Porch Pirates, That's all I have to say.
- 8:53Speaker 2: And happy Thanksgivving.
- 8:56Speaker 1: Happy Thanksgiving. Have you seen the videos of people who
- 9:01Speaker 1: like have their the little cameras on their doors and
- 9:04Speaker 1: then people steal the packages. But those packages are like
- 9:06Speaker 1: they have like, yeah, glitter bombs inside of them. They're
- 9:09Speaker 1: like like they get picked up and now people go
- 9:12Speaker 1: and they rush to their car and they get in
- 9:13Speaker 1: their car and just see like pink and blue explode
- 9:16Speaker 1: in their car.
- 9:17Speaker 2: And now the porch pirates are charging those people with
- 9:21Speaker 2: the salt.
- 9:21Speaker 1: It's like, what are we doing?
- 9:23Speaker 2: What we're doing?
- 9:23Speaker 1: Oh, you know what we're doing, buddy.
- 9:25Speaker 6: Oh I stole their package and their package glitter bomb made.
- 9:28Speaker 2: That's a salt.
- 9:29Speaker 1: That's a salt, brother, So yeah, you should do that
- 9:33Speaker 1: or move I really want to or move, yeah, because
- 9:35Speaker 1: that's a that's a crazy thing that people are doing steel.
- 9:37Speaker 7: It's crazy.
- 9:38Speaker 1: Shouldn't have that NFL crazy weekend in the NFL. By
- 9:42Speaker 1: the way, boys, I am so grateful for you guys
- 9:44Speaker 1: taking the time to be very naked up with me.
- 9:46Speaker 1: That was I needed that. Onward and upboard, we're gonna
- 9:49Speaker 1: be grateful from here on out. Let's be grateful for
- 9:51Speaker 1: the Houston Texans and that defensive passes. Give a round
- 9:53Speaker 1: of polish for that pass rush. When it's seven to
- 9:55Speaker 1: eight sacks in that game. The Boys were absolutely hunting
- 10:00Speaker 1: all day along Their offense was Okay, little stag, did
- 10:04Speaker 1: they did enough to win the game? We'll say that
- 10:06Speaker 1: they did enough to win the game. They had Josh
- 10:09Speaker 1: Allen running for his life all day and the back
- 10:11Speaker 1: end that defense was sticky on the wide receivers. We
- 10:13Speaker 1: all know, like people have been very critical of the
- 10:16Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills wide receivers and they I think they deserve
- 10:18Speaker 1: a little bit of criticism, But we have to say
- 10:20Speaker 1: a lot of big good things about how that defense played.
- 10:22Speaker 1: They played absolutely incredible in that game and made Josh
- 10:25Speaker 1: Allen run for his life. Daniel Hunter, who's your individual?
- 10:29Speaker 1: Will Anderson? My god, a couple of couple of robots
- 10:35Speaker 1: rushing around the edge. It was unbelievable to watch.
- 10:38Speaker 2: And even when they missed the sack, the way they're
- 10:40Speaker 2: able to get up off the turf and continue to
- 10:42Speaker 2: hunt this man. That's what's impressive. The defense for the
- 10:45Speaker 2: Houston Texans is for real. When you look at their
- 10:48Speaker 2: schedule too, like they got kind of a gauntlet in
- 10:50Speaker 2: the next couple of weeks with the Colts. They play
- 10:52Speaker 2: at Indianapolis and then go to Arrowhead and play the Chiefs.
- 10:55Speaker 2: After that, Cardinals, Raiders, Chargers and Colts again. Is a
- 11:00Speaker 2: world where you feel like the Texans are gonna make
- 11:02Speaker 2: the playoffs. I think there's clearly a world, but clearly
- 11:06Speaker 2: a world in your mind. Do you think the Texans
- 11:09Speaker 2: make a run and get into the playoffs.
- 11:11Speaker 1: What's their record right now?
- 11:13Speaker 2: Because are six and six and five six and five, ye,
- 11:16Speaker 2: and the Jags are seven.
- 11:19Speaker 1: And four, correct, and the Colts are nine and three
- 11:23Speaker 1: nine and two, Cults are eight and three. Yeah, there's
- 11:27Speaker 1: there's absolutely a world we can see that. I think
- 11:28Speaker 1: the issue is is what happens in that second slot? Hell,
- 11:31Speaker 1: what happens in that first slot? Maybe the Texans pass
- 11:33Speaker 1: rush is that good where they get Daniel Jones off
- 11:36Speaker 1: of his you know, out of sequence. He's not throwing
- 11:39Speaker 1: in rhythm, he's not throwing with timing. Maybe they can
- 11:42Speaker 1: go and upset the Colts. If they just got upset
- 11:44Speaker 1: against the Kansas City Chiefs. Maybe something happens there where
- 11:47Speaker 1: that defense is just good enough. I mean, they're going
- 11:49Speaker 1: two games back.
- 11:50Speaker 3: First the Colts question, for y'all, do you think Davis
- 11:53Speaker 3: Mills three and ohero in his three starts with the Texans,
- 11:57Speaker 3: you don't think, No, there's gonna be any quarterback controversy.
- 11:59Speaker 2: There no.
- 12:03Speaker 1: C got hurt. The early part of the year, he
- 12:05Speaker 1: was having trouble. He wasn't doing the ball accurately, he
- 12:08Speaker 1: wasn't doing it on time. The couple of games before
- 12:11Speaker 1: he got injured, he started to find his stride a
- 12:13Speaker 1: little bit. He started to push the ball into the
- 12:14Speaker 1: field because whide receivers making big catches. That to me
- 12:17Speaker 1: is a that's a non conversation starter right here, because
- 12:21Speaker 1: it's not because this is Davis Mills. Davis Mills isn't
- 12:24Speaker 1: the reason why all of a sudden he's like a
- 12:26Speaker 1: willingness team into victory. Like he is taking care of
- 12:29Speaker 1: the football, allowing the run game to work from a
- 12:31Speaker 1: little bit, being efficient with the football when he needs
- 12:33Speaker 1: to be, and then allowing the defense to absolutely rec havoc.
- 12:36Speaker 1: And that's what's causing the Texans to win the game.
- 12:38Speaker 1: It's the defense is not necessarily the offense. And if
- 12:41Speaker 1: you're looking on the other side of that, we're not
- 12:43Speaker 1: gonna get critical, right We're not getting critical. But the
- 12:46Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills, they're in a bit of danger right now.
- 12:50Speaker 2: Just before we get out of the AFC South. All
- 12:52Speaker 2: that has to happen this weekend. You got to essentially
- 12:55Speaker 2: a one game race. Texans beat the Colts this weekend
- 12:58Speaker 2: and then Jaguars got the Titans, So Jaguars win that
- 13:01Speaker 2: if the If the Jaguars win that game, I'm not
- 13:03Speaker 2: saying they're going to but if the Jaguars win that game,
- 13:05Speaker 2: likely that they will, they'll be eight and four Colts.
- 13:07Speaker 2: If they lose the Texans, Colts will be eight and
- 13:09Speaker 2: four and Texas will be seven and five, and we'll
- 13:11Speaker 2: have a one game away where what felt like earlier
- 13:14Speaker 2: in the season, as it was strending Colts Coats were
- 13:15Speaker 2: gonna run away their potential one seed, and everything else
- 13:18Speaker 2: in the AFC South was kind of beaten down. But
- 13:21Speaker 2: the Texans Jaguars have been inconsistent. They've been steady. But
- 13:25Speaker 2: you know, we'll see kind of what happens in this
- 13:27Speaker 2: last stretch in November December football. But we're we could
- 13:31Speaker 2: be one game away after this weekend. Could be for
- 13:34Speaker 2: some good fun chaos.
- 13:35Speaker 1: And if there's one thing we've learned in the twenty
- 13:37Speaker 1: twenty five football season, it's Will Compton and Chaos are
- 13:40Speaker 1: match made in heaven. You got you two love each
- 13:42Speaker 1: other so much. I love chaos, I love sitting there.
- 13:45Speaker 1: I love sitting back and just watching the chaos unfold,
- 13:47Speaker 1: and then you kind of telling me a story as
- 13:49Speaker 1: if I'm a child tucked in and you're reading me
- 13:51Speaker 1: a nice little book at night, the Book of Chaos.
- 13:53Speaker 1: I enjoy that. You're an individual. You're on Chad GBT.
- 13:56Speaker 1: You're wondering how we get the most chaos out of life. Yeah,
- 13:58Speaker 1: when it comes to the gridiron, yes, mostly. We'll get
- 14:01Speaker 1: to college football later.
- 14:02Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll get to college. We'll get college even in
- 14:04Speaker 2: some NFL. You know there's chaos. Is all this chaos
- 14:06Speaker 2: creative with Philadelphia Eagles. We will We'll get to that
- 14:08Speaker 2: once we start talking about the NFC. But yeah, going
- 14:11Speaker 2: out to uh, going out to Buffalo, I don't know
- 14:12Speaker 2: what to think of Buffalo. I just don't know what
- 14:15Speaker 2: to make of Buffalo. Like their defense is inconsistent. You
- 14:18Speaker 2: can run the ball on him. Josh Allen's gonna have
- 14:20Speaker 2: to be a superhero every game. Receivers are they gonna
- 14:23Speaker 2: you know, what's his name? Keon Coleman.
- 14:24Speaker 1: Yeah?
- 14:26Speaker 2: Is he gonna get back?
- 14:28Speaker 1: He?
- 14:28Speaker 3: I think he uh was last week. He set out
- 14:32Speaker 3: for like the first half or first quarter, and I think,
- 14:34Speaker 3: like I according to uh, Dion Dawkins after like a
- 14:38Speaker 3: postgame interview, it seems like it's like kind of like
- 14:40Speaker 3: a character issue, kind of like an attitude type thing
- 14:44Speaker 3: and he needs to like dial it in. But like
- 14:46Speaker 3: he was a first round draft pick for him, you
- 14:47Speaker 3: would like to think that he's out there and like, can.
- 14:50Speaker 2: Did he play Thursday?
- 14:52Speaker 1: He did not play.
- 14:52Speaker 2: He didn't play Thursday. He was an under interview you're
- 14:54Speaker 2: talking about was two weeks ago when he got bench
- 14:56Speaker 2: for a quarter and said it was character. We gotta
- 14:58Speaker 2: get him back on track. But Thursday he wasn't even
- 15:00Speaker 2: a dressed.
- 15:00Speaker 8: He was a healthy scratch two weeks in a row
- 15:02Speaker 8: for missing a team meeting is basically what they said.
- 15:04Speaker 7: And then his attitude for how they reprimanded him, I
- 15:07Speaker 7: guess is why he was a healthy scratch.
- 15:08Speaker 2: Again, that's such man.
- 15:10Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think Dawkins, I think he handled it
- 15:13Speaker 1: really well. Obviously there was internal conversations that took place,
- 15:15Speaker 1: but his postgame interview or whatever, when he's like listen,
- 15:18Speaker 1: I love the kid, he's awesome. He needs to now
- 15:20Speaker 1: show at these levels of growth to get in. So
- 15:22Speaker 1: it's like you've had the conversation you publicly said. What
- 15:25Speaker 1: it's about, that to me is great leadership by Dean Dawkins,
- 15:28Speaker 1: like they handle it that way.
- 15:29Speaker 4: Great time of year two for Keyon Coleman to be thankful,
- 15:33Speaker 4: just kind of rewrite the script.
- 15:34Speaker 1: We write the script. I understand. Hey, listen, you are
- 15:39Speaker 1: a young cat, single young cat in the NFL, first
- 15:43Speaker 1: round draft pick, first round draft pick, able to play
- 15:45Speaker 1: with the reigning MVP, yeah, and to catch balls from
- 15:48Speaker 1: Josh Allen, great quarterback, and a team that Wiley is
- 15:51Speaker 1: considered a contender in the NFL. You're one of thirty
- 15:54Speaker 1: two teams that have the possibility to win a world championship.
- 15:58Speaker 1: How beautiful is that?
- 15:59Speaker 2: Man? That's to be thankful.
- 16:00Speaker 1: That's something to be thankful for it. That's out Stanley Sherman.
- 16:03Speaker 1: I love that. But I think I think the answer
- 16:06Speaker 1: is this wide receiver room is from a talent standpoint,
- 16:11Speaker 1: there we could all kind of say, like they're below averager,
- 16:13Speaker 1: they're not getting separation the way they need to get separation.
- 16:16Speaker 1: The defense you said it like people can run on
- 16:18Speaker 1: them and they're getting injured, and they're getting injured so
- 16:21Speaker 1: lost with the right tackle they lost. Yes, Spencer Brown.
- 16:24Speaker 1: Spencer Brown was having some issues during the game. He
- 16:27Speaker 1: ended up coming out and not finishing from a right
- 16:29Speaker 1: shoulder injury. He ended up coming out, not returning back
- 16:33Speaker 1: in the game. And if we're gonna stick on the
- 16:36Speaker 1: offensive line, here's my biggest issue I have with watching
- 16:38Speaker 1: that game. We're gonna stay thankful with these offensive LINEMNF No.
- 16:41Speaker 1: I know I brought up to g Deon Dawkins. I
- 16:43Speaker 1: think Deon Dawkins is one of the best tackles in
- 16:45Speaker 1: the NFL. Like his run blocking ability is, you know,
- 16:50Speaker 1: I think in the top ten category. His past block
- 16:52Speaker 1: ability is in the top ten category. You're able as
- 16:54Speaker 1: an offense to do so much with the tackle like him.
- 16:56Speaker 1: And I think Spencer Brown is one of the more
- 16:58Speaker 1: underrated tackles in the entire league. But these guys have
- 17:01Speaker 1: a a timer is going off in their head when
- 17:06Speaker 1: they're in pass production, and you see it multiple times.
- 17:08Speaker 1: There are two or three sacks that took place in
- 17:11Speaker 1: that game that was because they decided the ball should
- 17:14Speaker 1: be out and they stopped blocking, and the defensive end,
- 17:16Speaker 1: whether it be Anderson or Hunter, kept going and got
- 17:20Speaker 1: the sack. And so that that's a that's a big issue.
- 17:24Speaker 1: That is just fixed with effort. But you save yourself
- 17:27Speaker 1: your quarterback getting hit two or three other times if
- 17:30Speaker 1: you don't have that timer in your head. And a
- 17:31Speaker 1: guy like Josh Allen, you know he likes to hold
- 17:33Speaker 1: the ball a long time, you know, like being a
- 17:35Speaker 1: if you're a deal, doalk in Spencer bron You've been
- 17:37Speaker 1: the league long enough to know, hey, you're a wide receiver.
- 17:39Speaker 1: Room they're going to take a little bit longer. They
- 17:41Speaker 1: need more time to kind of have these routes open
- 17:44Speaker 1: unless you're scheming them open in certain ways. That is
- 17:46Speaker 1: a big problem that they need to get fixed. But
- 17:48Speaker 1: it's easily fixable. Going into next week.
- 17:50Speaker 2: It's Spencer Brown two looking at going on ir potentially, Yeah,
- 17:55Speaker 2: Bernard they're inside backer. Yeah, he went down to with
- 17:58Speaker 2: an elbow, so they're also taking on injuries. Yeah. I
- 18:02Speaker 2: think it's the Patriots. Patriots are going to take the East.
- 18:04Speaker 2: I think no, it's only I know it's only two games.
- 18:06Speaker 2: What are they Is it two games back?
- 18:08Speaker 1: I think they're two and a half because they have
- 18:10Speaker 1: the type right career as well.
- 18:11Speaker 3: I think the Bills are seven and yeah, Bills.
- 18:14Speaker 1: It's a three games right now.
- 18:16Speaker 2: Bills are seven and four.
- 18:17Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the Pats and Bills still't play each
- 18:19Speaker 3: other twice this year.
- 18:20Speaker 1: Though, No, no, the Pats and Bills already played each
- 18:22Speaker 1: other at the Bills the Pats won that game that
- 18:24Speaker 1: started the Pats streak or us kind of like opening
- 18:27Speaker 1: our eyes to the Patriots. The Bills, they don't play
- 18:30Speaker 1: again until I think the first week January.
- 18:33Speaker 2: Or late December is when they play again the Patriots.
- 18:36Speaker 2: The rest of the way, you got Giants. December fourteenth
- 18:38Speaker 2: is when Bills Ravens, Jets and Dolphins.
- 18:41Speaker 1: I think, if you're the Bills, this is a deaf
- 18:43Speaker 1: Con five pandic mode situation that you're in your three
- 18:45Speaker 1: games back, you're in the playoffs right now. You're in
- 18:47Speaker 1: the playoffs right now. But I think what the convergences
- 18:50Speaker 1: we just took place with the AFC South, AFC West
- 18:53Speaker 1: also we have not gotten to that's like you can
- 18:55Speaker 1: have multiple teams. They're making the playoffs. It is a scary.
- 18:58Speaker 1: It's scary to be a Buffalo Bills in a Buffalo
- 19:00Speaker 1: Bills player right.
- 19:01Speaker 2: Now, Patriots and Broncos racing for the one.
- 19:03Speaker 1: Seed, in the racing for the one seed. What a
- 19:05Speaker 1: fun world?
- 19:06Speaker 3: Do we get to live in I'm saying, like for
- 19:08Speaker 3: the Bills, Like yeah, you may be like in the
- 19:10Speaker 3: playoff picture right now, but like your playoffs start now,
- 19:12Speaker 3: like you need to Oh.
- 19:14Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, It's It's one of those situations for sure.
- 19:18Speaker 2: Imagine before the season started, you're not talking. It's like, hey,
- 19:22Speaker 2: who's going to race for the one seed in the AFC.
- 19:24Speaker 2: It's gonna be like between Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen, Lamarr
- 19:28Speaker 2: Jackson we're talking about now, we're talking about bow Knicks
- 19:31Speaker 2: and Drake May. Bow Knicks and Drake May racing for
- 19:35Speaker 2: the one seed in the AFC. I love it.
- 19:37Speaker 1: I know you do, my boy, love chaos chaos. Yeah,
- 19:44Speaker 1: Daniel Jones as well. I mean, they just lost to
- 19:46Speaker 1: the Chiefs and they should not have lost that game.
- 19:48Speaker 1: That was a heartbreaking. That's the second biggest heartbreaking game
- 19:52Speaker 1: besides Clumps Eagles this past weekend. But yeah, dude, I
- 19:55Speaker 1: think I think the it's safe to say the AFC
- 19:58Speaker 1: East is owned by the Patriots, or now it is.
- 20:01Speaker 1: I mean the Patriots scheduled the rest of the way too.
- 20:03Speaker 1: I mean, you have you were fourth or third and
- 20:05Speaker 1: your division last year. You're kind of in a place
- 20:07Speaker 1: where you're playing the easier teams. We saw the gauntlet
- 20:10Speaker 1: the Bills have to deal with there. It's a tough spot,
- 20:13Speaker 1: tough tough spot, tough spot to be living in. Right now,
- 20:16Speaker 1: looks like we got Greg joining Greg is joining us
- 20:19Speaker 1: right now.
- 20:21Speaker 2: We were going on nothing. We were just talking ball.
- 20:24Speaker 2: We were talking the AFC kind of you know, laughing,
- 20:28Speaker 2: loving the chaos out before the season. It's like you're
- 20:30Speaker 2: talking Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, Joe Burrow, a
- 20:33Speaker 2: couple of those four races for the one seed in
- 20:35Speaker 2: the AFC, and now we're talking about bo Nicks and
- 20:37Speaker 2: Drake May.
- 20:39Speaker 5: It's funny how the league shifts.
- 20:41Speaker 2: Man.
- 20:42Speaker 5: So it makes the NFL so good. You just you think,
- 20:44Speaker 5: you know, and the reality is none of us have
- 20:46Speaker 5: any idea.
- 20:47Speaker 2: You know that the Patriots are gonna win the AFC
- 20:50Speaker 2: East though.
- 20:51Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, that's what it looks like right now, barring
- 20:54Speaker 5: what are they ten in? Two?
- 20:56Speaker 2: Yeah? Ten and two? Yeah? Close?
- 20:58Speaker 5: One.
- 20:58Speaker 2: They had to come back a little bit against the
- 20:59Speaker 2: Bengal defense.
- 21:00Speaker 1: That's all right, Yeah, well was it?
- 21:02Speaker 5: I think everybody wants to give They don't play anybody
- 21:06Speaker 5: in their schedule has been the easiest, and they haven't
- 21:08Speaker 5: bet anybody with the winning record. Like I get all that,
- 21:10Speaker 5: but this is not college football right where everyone's schedule
- 21:14Speaker 5: is so drastically different. Some years you get lucky and
- 21:17Speaker 5: you play the four seed schedule because of the year before,
- 21:20Speaker 5: and your schedule is easy and you're at in your
- 21:23Speaker 5: crossover division at a conference is an easy one. And
- 21:26Speaker 5: then the next year you play the hardest schedule. Like
- 21:28Speaker 5: it all, it all evens itself out. You got to
- 21:31Speaker 5: take advantage of an easy schedule when you get it,
- 21:33Speaker 5: and you never apologize for winning.
- 21:35Speaker 1: You know what's crazy right now? Is I mean I
- 21:38Speaker 1: don't want to look ahead of twenty six is we
- 21:40Speaker 1: have so much fun football ahead of us in the
- 21:42Speaker 1: NFL season. But if we get through the year the
- 21:44Speaker 1: way the year is going right now, at some point
- 21:46Speaker 1: in February March April, May, so of the the mainstream
- 21:50Speaker 1: media is going to stop talking about Drake May as
- 21:52Speaker 1: much and bow Knicks, and they're going to go back
- 21:54Speaker 1: to the things they're most comfortable with, Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen,
- 21:57Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes and Joe Burrow, and then were gonna look
- 22:00Speaker 1: at the twenty sixth season and the AFC, and we're
- 22:02Speaker 1: gonna have those four regular names, but you're gonna add
- 22:06Speaker 1: Drake Mayon there, you're gonna add Bo Nicks. And then
- 22:09Speaker 1: now we're looking at the AFC like every team in
- 22:11Speaker 1: the AFC could win the AFC. Yeah, and that's gonna
- 22:14Speaker 1: be that's exciting.
- 22:16Speaker 2: Yeah, what what do you make of so you you
- 22:21Speaker 2: covered the Vikings Packers yesterday?
- 22:23Speaker 5: Yeah, yep.
- 22:24Speaker 2: A lot of conversations around JJ.
- 22:26Speaker 1: McCarthy, A lot of conversations.
- 22:28Speaker 2: What are you seeing as you watch that game? One fold?
- 22:33Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a tough it's a tough offense to watch,
- 22:38Speaker 5: and I think there's a lot of reasons. Right, So
- 22:40Speaker 5: on one side of the coin, we got a guy
- 22:42Speaker 5: who's in just made a sixth NFL start, right, So
- 22:46Speaker 5: I think it's a little premature to just cast him
- 22:48Speaker 5: off and say he's done. He's not an NFL starter,
- 22:51Speaker 5: he's Zach Wilson, he's Trey Lance, he's a high first
- 22:55Speaker 5: round pick that just can't do it. I think it's
- 22:57Speaker 5: too early for that, But I do think there are
- 23:00Speaker 5: some alarm bells going off, like, Okay, are we wasting
- 23:04Speaker 5: a window where we clearly thought that we were going
- 23:07Speaker 5: to be in contention to not just win the division,
- 23:09Speaker 5: but to make a deep run in the playoffs after
- 23:12Speaker 5: a disappointing end to a fourteen win regular season last year.
- 23:14Speaker 5: So I think that's a very reasonable conversation. I think
- 23:21Speaker 5: they are running this offense entirely different than they have
- 23:24Speaker 5: in years past. This looks entirely different with albeit pretty
- 23:28Speaker 5: much the exact same guys on offense in the same
- 23:30Speaker 5: play caller, a very different system and scheme and play
- 23:34Speaker 5: style to last year. And I understand the offensive line
- 23:38Speaker 5: has been very banged up. They started yesterday for the
- 23:41Speaker 5: first time all season. Yesterday was the first game that
- 23:44Speaker 5: they had their preseason on paper, starting five on there together,
- 23:50Speaker 5: and then Christian darrisaw he leaves, the Donovan Jackson, the
- 23:54Speaker 5: left guard, he leaves, so they don't even finish the
- 23:56Speaker 5: game with that. So offensive line has been an issue.
- 23:59Speaker 5: But skill wise, he's got a lot of great guys, obviously,
- 24:01Speaker 5: justin Jefferson, Joran Addison, they got Kevin O'Connell, the same
- 24:04Speaker 5: play caller. It just looked different. So I think at
- 24:08Speaker 5: some point they need to just rip the band aid
- 24:10Speaker 5: off and say we'll fix all the fundamentals in the offseason.
- 24:13Speaker 5: We'll fix the overstriding, we'll fix throw into his left,
- 24:16Speaker 5: we'll fix the base of his mechanics flying open, forget
- 24:19Speaker 5: all that. I think if I'm Kevin O'Connell, I'm saying, JJ,
- 24:24Speaker 5: just get back and rip it. I don't care if
- 24:27Speaker 5: you throw five picks, You're not coming out of the game.
- 24:29Speaker 5: I think they need to flip it because right now
- 24:32Speaker 5: they're protecting him. It's super run heavy, they're getting nothing
- 24:36Speaker 5: out of it, they're not going to score any points,
- 24:38Speaker 5: and they're all just doing it to try to protect
- 24:40Speaker 5: him and not crush them. I think I would go
- 24:42Speaker 5: to the complete opposite going forward and just say you
- 24:44Speaker 5: can either do it or he can't. We're not going
- 24:46Speaker 5: to handcuff the rest of the offense and the rest
- 24:48Speaker 5: of the team, because this is clearly not a style
- 24:52Speaker 5: of play that is conducive to scoring points and ultimately winning.
- 24:57Speaker 1: Are you, Greg I one one hundred percent agree with
- 25:02Speaker 1: everything he just said, because if you're Kevin O'Connell, you're
- 25:04Speaker 1: sitting there and then and the entire Vikings fan base
- 25:07Speaker 1: is now completely impatient because yeah, this is this is
- 25:09Speaker 1: a sixth start, but it's his second year with that team,
- 25:13Speaker 1: and they've had this anticipation of Juji McCarthy for two
- 25:16Speaker 1: years now, and regardless of it's whether it's fair to him,
- 25:18Speaker 1: it's not fair to him. That's the way the NFL is.
- 25:20Speaker 1: It's impatient, and we have a development issue. If you're
- 25:23Speaker 1: Kevin O'Connell, it's if you're in a slump. We had
- 25:26Speaker 1: to swing through the slump. Like he threw the ball
- 25:27Speaker 1: nineteen times yesterday. We need to double those numbers. And
- 25:31Speaker 1: who cares, you're right if it's five picks, six picks, like,
- 25:33Speaker 1: we're just gonna keep on ripping it and by December,
- 25:36Speaker 1: like maybe he works through those things. Kid does a
- 25:38Speaker 1: lot of meditation, does a lot of things folks to himself.
- 25:41Speaker 1: He sits there in postgame press conferences or during the
- 25:43Speaker 1: week and they're like, hey, are you used to playing
- 25:45Speaker 1: quarterback like this? He's very open, like when I was
- 25:48Speaker 1: at Michigan, this is not how they taught me to
- 25:50Speaker 1: play quarterbacks. So he's learning new.
- 25:52Speaker 2: He's talk about taking the dog outside and he's getting
- 25:54Speaker 2: ten reps in.
- 25:55Speaker 1: Yeah, getting ten reps in. It's like, hey, let's make
- 25:57Speaker 1: those real live reps and let's see if you're the
- 26:00Speaker 1: guy right now, because the way their season's going is
- 26:02Speaker 1: if he is the guy, or if you're Kevin O'Connell like, hey,
- 26:05Speaker 1: because to me, I see a couple of things where
- 26:07Speaker 1: it's like, we have a lot of red flags taking place,
- 26:10Speaker 1: a lot of alarms going off. But there are one
- 26:12Speaker 1: or two things you see when he does with the
- 26:13Speaker 1: ball on time, with the right mechanics, He's throwing guys
- 26:17Speaker 1: out of breaks perfect with the in the back of
- 26:19Speaker 1: the end zone. He's going high for the end zone.
- 26:21Speaker 1: He's doing the low by the hip like he's thwing
- 26:24Speaker 1: the football, and ways you're like, oh, okay, that's the
- 26:26Speaker 1: guy they wanted to draft right there. But it's like
- 26:29Speaker 1: you have between now and the end of the year
- 26:31Speaker 1: to truly figure it out because you're not gonna have
- 26:33Speaker 1: a fan base that's gonna be patient with the head
- 26:34Speaker 1: coach if you don't go and draft a quarterback in
- 26:36Speaker 1: the first round if it stays like this, So you've
- 26:39Speaker 1: got to be like, hey, let's get let's have him
- 26:41Speaker 1: throw the ball thirty six thirty seven times a game
- 26:43Speaker 1: and just call this season a wash and rip it.
- 26:46Speaker 1: So I agree with you. I love that team.
- 26:48Speaker 5: You just remember he's not dumb right. He's been around
- 26:51Speaker 5: a lot of good ball, He's won a lot of games.
- 26:53Speaker 5: He's always been the man. I mean just even back,
- 26:56Speaker 5: you know, going with thirty seven and one, thirty six
- 26:59Speaker 5: and one, whatever was in college at Michigan winning the Natty.
- 27:03Speaker 5: This is a guy who's been around ball, and he
- 27:05Speaker 5: understands good ball and he understands bad ball. And I
- 27:09Speaker 5: think right now the team thinks they're protecting him. And
- 27:12Speaker 5: I don't fault Kevin O'Connell for any of this. He's
- 27:14Speaker 5: really trying to find that delicate balance between throwing your
- 27:19Speaker 5: young Yeah that was an Inadverton, throwing your young quarterback
- 27:22Speaker 5: to the Wolves and crushing him, which we've seen stunt
- 27:25Speaker 5: the growth of young quarterbacks for years. But I also
- 27:29Speaker 5: think you can stunt the young quarterbacks confidence by putting
- 27:32Speaker 5: in a game plan and calling the plays, which signals
- 27:36Speaker 5: to everybody who's watching the game or part playing in
- 27:39Speaker 5: the game, we don't believe in this guy, like he
- 27:42Speaker 5: can't do it, so we're gonna just call this game
- 27:44Speaker 5: entirely different from how we otherwise would. I think that's
- 27:48Speaker 5: equally debilitating. So I think you overcorrect. Let it rip.
- 27:53Speaker 5: You're not benching him, there's no one else to go to,
- 27:56Speaker 5: and you're saying, dude, we protected you and we lost
- 28:00Speaker 5: three to six. Who cares if we lose forty to six,
- 28:04Speaker 5: forty to fourteen, Like, we're not gonna worry about playing
- 28:08Speaker 5: not to lose. That formula is obviously not getting us anywhere.
- 28:11Speaker 5: We're gonna go out there, let it rip, get back
- 28:13Speaker 5: to what you've been, all the confidence in the world,
- 28:17Speaker 5: let it eat, and if you throw it to the
- 28:19Speaker 5: other team, we'll fix it on Monday. But we can't
- 28:22Speaker 5: do this whole run, run, third down, pass, fall behind,
- 28:26Speaker 5: and then get into pass mode at the end and
- 28:28Speaker 5: just think we're gonna chuck it down by three scorers. Like,
- 28:32Speaker 5: you just can't play NFL football that way. And they
- 28:35Speaker 5: don't have a lot of choices who they turn to.
- 28:37Speaker 5: I'm not suggesting they turn to somebody else, but I
- 28:40Speaker 5: think you just let the young kid go out there
- 28:42Speaker 5: and let it fly. And you're losing anyway, So what's
- 28:46Speaker 5: the difference of the manner in which you lose?
- 28:48Speaker 2: Right right? I just you know, if you if you
- 28:50Speaker 2: go that route and then he you know, because he's
- 28:52Speaker 2: like the most inaccurate passer in the NFL. Right now,
- 28:55Speaker 2: Like I know, we hate throwing stats, but quarterbacks with
- 28:58Speaker 2: at least one hundred attempts, you look accuracy percentage, so
- 29:01Speaker 2: ball location, accuracy within the frame, away from the coverage.
- 29:05Speaker 2: He's only his accuracy. He's only fifty one percent. There's
- 29:08Speaker 2: only three quarterbacks in the league below fifty five, and
- 29:11Speaker 2: it's Carson Wentz, it's JJ McCarthy, and it's Michael PENNOCKX
- 29:14Speaker 2: and JJ McCarthy's at the bottom. So you might say,
- 29:17Speaker 2: you double those numbers and he's that wildly inaccurate and
- 29:20Speaker 2: you you mess around and find out at the end
- 29:23Speaker 2: of the season. It would just suck if the Vikings
- 29:25Speaker 2: they find themselves in a position at the end of
- 29:27Speaker 2: the year to where it's like, oh, this probably is
- 29:30Speaker 2: not our guy. That's as you have to follow that
- 29:33Speaker 2: one to this.
- 29:33Speaker 5: We talked about this yesterday on the call. You look
- 29:37Speaker 5: back into the offseason, right and there's a lot of
- 29:39Speaker 5: things that went on in Minnesota. They have Sam Darnold,
- 29:42Speaker 5: he moves on to Seattle. Whether or not they offered
- 29:45Speaker 5: the same amount of money or not, we'll never really
- 29:47Speaker 5: know the truth of how it all went down, but
- 29:49Speaker 5: they clearly they let Sam Walkee ends up in Seattle.
- 29:52Speaker 5: He's having a great year. And then they have Daniel Jones, right,
- 29:55Speaker 5: and from all reports and everyone internally saying, hey, they
- 29:59Speaker 5: wanted Daniel. They thought Daniel Jones was the best bang
- 30:02Speaker 5: for their buck as far as what they'd have to
- 30:04Speaker 5: pay him, and the guy that they saw when they
- 30:06Speaker 5: picked him up when he got released from the Giants
- 30:08Speaker 5: down the stretch of the season last year. So he
- 30:10Speaker 5: signs with Indianapolis under the under the assumption which proved
- 30:14Speaker 5: to be right, that he could beat out Anthony Richardson
- 30:17Speaker 5: more likely that he'd play in Indianapolis than he measured
- 30:20Speaker 5: that he would play if he stayed in Minnesota. So
- 30:24Speaker 5: that all plays out and they go all in. But
- 30:26Speaker 5: if they don't think JJ McCarthy's their guy, which I
- 30:29Speaker 5: think they do and did and still do to a degree.
- 30:34Speaker 5: They spent the second most money in the free agency
- 30:37Speaker 5: in the entire league, only behind the New England Patriots. Right,
- 30:40Speaker 5: So why did the Patriots do it? Because we've got
- 30:42Speaker 5: Drake May on a young contract. We're gonna we gotta
- 30:46Speaker 5: we got to attack this window for the next four
- 30:48Speaker 5: years until we got to pay him seventy million by
- 30:50Speaker 5: the time he's up. We got to capitalize on getting
- 30:53Speaker 5: this roster as talented as we can in these next
- 30:55Speaker 5: four window for a year window, because we have this
- 30:57Speaker 5: young rookie quarterback that is a stud I think Minnesota
- 31:00Speaker 5: took the exact same approach. They said, listen, we got
- 31:02Speaker 5: four years left of JJ McCarthy on a rookie contract.
- 31:06Speaker 5: We're paying him peanuts. We're not paying fifty million, we're
- 31:09Speaker 5: not paying sixty million. We're going to go all in.
- 31:11Speaker 5: We've got Justin Jefferson, We've got a veteran offensive line.
- 31:14Speaker 5: We've got one of the top defenses every single year
- 31:17Speaker 5: with Brian Flores leading the show. This is our window
- 31:20Speaker 5: to capitalize. Kevin O'Connell has made every quarterback that he's
- 31:23Speaker 5: worked with play the best version of themselves, and they
- 31:26Speaker 5: went all in. Now you take a look and you say, Okay,
- 31:29Speaker 5: if you haven't hit on your quarterback and if he's
- 31:32Speaker 5: not the guy for the next four years, you're dead. Yeah,
- 31:36Speaker 5: because your cap situation stinks, you're over the cap. These
- 31:39Speaker 5: contracts just balloon as time goes on. And this window
- 31:43Speaker 5: you thought you had four years from now, Justin Jefferson's
- 31:46Speaker 5: four years older and Addison and it all starts to
- 31:49Speaker 5: break apart. So there is more than just winning and
- 31:52Speaker 5: losing games in this moment. The next couple years are tied.
- 31:56Speaker 5: Everything they've done organizationally and roster building, everything they've done
- 32:01Speaker 5: is tied to the fact that they're going to have
- 32:03Speaker 5: a rookie quarterback for the next four years.
- 32:06Speaker 2: Damn. Yeah, that's a mic. That's a that's yeah, it's
- 32:08Speaker 2: kind of a mic drop right there.
- 32:10Speaker 1: Yeah, it is the Minnesota bike. He's find themselves in
- 32:12Speaker 1: a very precarious situation. I don't know if this game
- 32:16Speaker 1: was good. Was it was the Browns game taking place
- 32:18Speaker 1: while you were calling the game that that was right
- 32:19Speaker 1: after That was right after your game.
- 32:22Speaker 5: I caught some of the highlights of the Browns game, obviously.
- 32:24Speaker 5: I saw touchdown. I saw Schador's postgame interview. Yeah, so
- 32:28Speaker 5: I caught. I caught. I caught the highlights. I caught
- 32:33Speaker 5: the parts that matter, obviously.
- 32:34Speaker 1: He beat the Raiders twenty four to ten. Every Browns
- 32:37Speaker 1: quarterback making their first start, they are oh to seventeen.
- 32:40Speaker 1: So Shader Sanders he wins his game, his first start
- 32:42Speaker 1: as a quarterback. He's in a category of his own
- 32:44Speaker 1: when it comes to the Cleveland Browns. He won his
- 32:47Speaker 1: first game. Before the game, he's saying, I'm who the
- 32:50Speaker 1: Browns had been looking for. Like that's what he was
- 32:52Speaker 1: trying to show. After the game, a lot of people
- 32:54Speaker 1: want to see me fail and it ain't gonna happen. Beautiful.
- 32:58Speaker 1: The next thing, he says, imagine what a full obviously
- 33:00Speaker 1: looks like. Dot dot dot. It's gonna get dangerous, Okay,
- 33:05Speaker 1: Donald Trump, he starts coming to tell you, hey, Sedor Sanders,
- 33:09Speaker 1: he was great after first game. He's he's saying, I
- 33:12Speaker 1: told you so, he's great.
- 33:14Speaker 2: Jeans, I told you yeah.
- 33:15Speaker 1: Forty five and forty seven has planted his flagpole in
- 33:18Speaker 1: the Sar Sanders camp, being like it was the first
- 33:23Speaker 1: one to say it. The Browns are back because I mean,
- 33:26Speaker 1: you see the clip of Sudar Sanders scrambling out to
- 33:28Speaker 1: his right throwing it deep. Miles Garrett face just lights up.
- 33:31Speaker 1: He's like eighteen sacks. But now we finally have a quarterback.
- 33:34Speaker 1: This is the best Thanksgiving I'm ever gonna have my
- 33:35Speaker 1: entire life. What what the hell is going on in Cleveland?
- 33:39Speaker 1: As the Fansky has he said it as he saved
- 33:42Speaker 1: his job, is should centers, the second Coming of Jesus,
- 33:45Speaker 1: the way they're saying he's going to be like, he
- 33:48Speaker 1: didn't have like the greatest stat line in the world,
- 33:50Speaker 1: but he operated. He scored twenty four points. He had
- 33:52Speaker 1: a live arm. I think it's more than ten points average.
- 33:55Speaker 1: They score a game.
- 33:56Speaker 5: It's exciting listen. At the very least, he adds a
- 33:59Speaker 5: little excitement Browns, because I don't know if you could
- 34:03Speaker 5: have paid me enough to watch the Browns play the Raiders, right,
- 34:06Speaker 5: I mean, that's just bad ball. The Raiders are. They're
- 34:12Speaker 5: the worst team in the league. And I don't even
- 34:14Speaker 5: think it's.
- 34:14Speaker 1: Close over the Titans.
- 34:16Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, I think they are like bad bad. I
- 34:23Speaker 5: think the Titans showed a little fight yesterday. I think Setle.
- 34:27Speaker 2: King a push there at the end.
- 34:29Speaker 1: Competitive loss ye yesterday.
- 34:31Speaker 5: Yes, I think they're competing. I think there you went again.
- 34:34Speaker 5: I've watched bits and pieces of Tennessee, and I know
- 34:38Speaker 5: I'm probably biased because cam Ward's a Miami guy. But
- 34:40Speaker 5: like when I watch cam Ward struggle in a one
- 34:44Speaker 5: when they won one game a one win season, there's
- 34:47Speaker 5: a lot of the moments, a lot of those games
- 34:49Speaker 5: you come out and you go Okay, yes, I know
- 34:51Speaker 5: they haven't won a game, and I know he's actually
- 34:53Speaker 5: thrown some but that doesn't look like a young rookie
- 34:56Speaker 5: quarterback who's playing out, you know, playing above the level
- 34:58Speaker 5: that he looks like he belongs like. That's a guy
- 35:01Speaker 5: that looks like he's he's competitive, he's tough. He's gonna
- 35:04Speaker 5: throw some ball to the wrong guy. His team stinks,
- 35:07Speaker 5: they're not competitive, they've already fired the coach, But that
- 35:10Speaker 5: dude belongs like. That's how I watch cam Ward like
- 35:13Speaker 5: so wins and losses. But to Shador's point, again, you
- 35:17Speaker 5: don't apologize for who you beat. The Raiders stink. Who
- 35:21Speaker 5: to the Browns play next week? Do you know?
- 35:23Speaker 2: Let me look it up for you.
- 35:24Speaker 1: Sure you're right.
- 35:25Speaker 5: Oh, they're gonna play some real teams, right, So I
- 35:28Speaker 5: just think you have to be very careful. And I
- 35:30Speaker 5: know he likes being the bad guy, he likes being
- 35:32Speaker 5: the villain. He plays into it. He did in college
- 35:36Speaker 5: reach their own. But this is a very humbling sport.
- 35:38Speaker 5: And yes, you got off to a good start. You
- 35:40Speaker 5: beat the Raiders, you don't apologize, and more power to them.
- 35:44Speaker 5: But Kevin Stefanski's not dumb. Kevin Stefanski is a very
- 35:47Speaker 5: good football coach. If he thought Shador Sanders was the
- 35:52Speaker 5: answer to the problems and the answer to saving his job,
- 35:54Speaker 5: Shudor would have been the quarterback weeks ago. So the
- 35:57Speaker 5: notion that he's not playing Shodor because he wants him
- 35:59Speaker 5: to fail is nonsense. We've all been around this league.
- 36:02Speaker 1: That's the craziest take I've ever heard.
- 36:04Speaker 5: People would play. People would play their worst enemy in
- 36:07Speaker 5: the world if they thought that they could win and
- 36:10Speaker 5: save their jobs. So the notion that Kevin Stefanski is
- 36:12Speaker 5: going to go down and have the best quarterback in
- 36:15Speaker 5: his roster not play just out of principle or because
- 36:19Speaker 5: he doesn't like his postgame interviews, I think is nonsense.
- 36:22Speaker 5: So hopefully he is that guy. I like Schador coming
- 36:25Speaker 5: out of college. I think he's got some physical skills.
- 36:27Speaker 5: He's big, he's strong. I thought he was awesome in college.
- 36:30Speaker 5: There is something, though, behind the scenes, as a reason
- 36:33Speaker 5: why Kevin Stefanski hasn't turned to him sooner. And we
- 36:38Speaker 5: don't know. We're not at practice, we're not in meetings.
- 36:40Speaker 5: We don't know what that looks like. But that's an obvious,
- 36:45Speaker 5: you know, to conclude, that is not a real leap
- 36:47Speaker 5: of faith.
- 36:48Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm rooting for the kid. Like you said,
- 36:53Speaker 2: it's one of those things where he's gonna play some
- 36:54Speaker 2: real football teams and I hope he does well. Like
- 36:57Speaker 2: I root for him, I root for a story just
- 36:59Speaker 2: because again and he fell in the draft. He's a
- 37:01Speaker 2: fifth round guy. You know, people love to beat up
- 37:03Speaker 2: on and people people holding for him people, but people
- 37:06Speaker 2: also love to hate. It's just like when you see
- 37:08Speaker 2: his postgame pressers, I'm just thinking, buddy, just caution yourself
- 37:11Speaker 2: speaking to your own movie like you're the second, like
- 37:16Speaker 2: you're the you're the one, you're the one that was chosen.
- 37:19Speaker 2: And then also just speaking to your haters. It's just again,
- 37:22Speaker 2: I because all you do is you put yourself in
- 37:25Speaker 2: a spot for eternity on critics and everybody like assuming
- 37:29Speaker 2: being right until you essentially all you can do is
- 37:31Speaker 2: win a super Bowl. Yeah, the way he ends up
- 37:34Speaker 2: chirping at times, and it's just I would just I'm
- 37:37Speaker 2: rooting for him. I want more people to root for him.
- 37:39Speaker 2: And when those things like that get said, when those
- 37:41Speaker 2: things happen, it's like I understand why people come after him. Uh,
- 37:45Speaker 2: just like I understand people rooting for him. So it's
- 37:47Speaker 2: it's all of those things. It's like, bro, just just
- 37:50Speaker 2: talk about the team, talk about you know, the gratitude
- 37:53Speaker 2: of being in the spot. You got a big one
- 37:54Speaker 2: next week, you got to stack another one, right, and
- 37:56Speaker 2: just keep the head down.
- 37:57Speaker 1: And keep going because that you're right. His post in
- 38:00Speaker 1: press conference is extremely short sighted and it plays exactly
- 38:03Speaker 1: what you said, like he is the main character of
- 38:05Speaker 1: his movie. In his mind. There's no other movies taking
- 38:08Speaker 1: place in the world, even though we're all kind of
- 38:09Speaker 1: dealing with ours. And he's like, I told y'all, imagine this.
- 38:13Speaker 1: Imagine that. It's like, Okay, enjoy that for the next
- 38:16Speaker 1: six days, because you have another judgment day coming against
- 38:18Speaker 1: the forty nine ers, Yeah, on Sunday, And so yeah, Like,
- 38:22Speaker 1: and if he does have let's say he has success
- 38:24Speaker 1: against the forty nine. So let's say he has he
- 38:26Speaker 1: wins five games, five more games or whatever. That's great,
- 38:30Speaker 1: he's gonna have an awesome offseason. But then the goalpost
- 38:32Speaker 1: is gonna move again. Cay, can you be a playoff quarterback?
- 38:34Speaker 1: And then if he makes the playoffs, okay, goal post
- 38:36Speaker 1: moves again. Can you win a super Bowl. So the
- 38:38Speaker 1: haters are always gonna have something to hold on to
- 38:40Speaker 1: unless you're a end up being a Hall of Fame quarterback.
- 38:44Speaker 1: That is that that's truly all they have.
- 38:46Speaker 5: I'll tell you what though his schedule forty nine ers
- 38:51Speaker 5: on a short week, defensively are struggling. We'll see them
- 38:54Speaker 5: tonight against Carolina, the Bears. They play the Bears next.
- 38:58Speaker 5: The Bears defense is not good. The Steelers hit or miss,
- 39:03Speaker 5: the Titans, the Bills. Okay, that's a root.
- 39:09Speaker 1: Suspect.
- 39:10Speaker 5: But that's that's his final six games. Those are the
- 39:13Speaker 5: next that's the six games that he's going to finish
- 39:15Speaker 5: the season.
- 39:15Speaker 1: So so you know something, Oh so you're liking I'm
- 39:20Speaker 1: over here talking like this.
- 39:22Speaker 5: No, no, no, that is not my style. The postgame
- 39:29Speaker 5: press conference, the talking ship, the hate, calling out the
- 39:32Speaker 5: haters like the No to your point, he's like he's
- 39:34Speaker 5: the only character in the movie and like all of
- 39:37Speaker 5: us have just been spending all of our time whereing.
- 39:39Speaker 5: I'll be honest, I haven't given two thoughts to the
- 39:41Speaker 5: Cleveland Browns quarterback Dylan Gabriel or whether any of them.
- 39:47Speaker 5: I haven't spent one minute. So the notion that like
- 39:50Speaker 5: there's all these haters and stuff. I get how a
- 39:52Speaker 5: lot of guys use that as like their motivation, and
- 39:54Speaker 5: they use that and more power to them. You win,
- 39:57Speaker 5: you could say whatever you want. I am of the
- 40:00Speaker 5: opinion of if you win and you're good, you can
- 40:04Speaker 5: say and do virtually whatever you want, as long as
- 40:07Speaker 5: you're a good teammate and the guys in the building
- 40:09Speaker 5: really like you and really go to bad for you.
- 40:11Speaker 5: If you have that, you can say whatever the hell
- 40:13Speaker 5: you want in the media as long as you win.
- 40:16Speaker 5: But you better win, right, and you better play well
- 40:19Speaker 5: because if you don't, now that becomes a distraction, that
- 40:22Speaker 5: becomes an issue, and now it becomes all of our problems.
- 40:25Speaker 5: Now we all have to answer for your postgame press
- 40:28Speaker 5: conferences when you don't win and when you don't play
- 40:31Speaker 5: well and all that. So I'm with you about him
- 40:34Speaker 5: pumping the tires a little bit, but we're going to
- 40:37Speaker 5: find out a lot because that's six game stretches by
- 40:39Speaker 5: no means of gauntlet, and if he plays well, he
- 40:44Speaker 5: deserves a lot of credit. But if he struggles down
- 40:46Speaker 5: the stretch against those guys, he's going to have a
- 40:48Speaker 5: lot of people come after him and that's just the
- 40:50Speaker 5: nature of the business.
- 40:50Speaker 1: It is very interesting that she George Sanders is the
- 40:52Speaker 1: main storyline coming out of Cleveland. When Miles Garrett has
- 40:55Speaker 1: eighteen sacks right now with six games left and is
- 40:58Speaker 1: probably most likely going to beat Michael Strahan's sack record
- 41:01Speaker 1: in a season, and that'll happen. It'll be a fart
- 41:04Speaker 1: in the way, like, hey, Miles Garrett did it. He
- 41:06Speaker 1: did something incredible that you know, Michael Sandan has held
- 41:08Speaker 1: this this prestigious accolade for twenty years or whatever it is.
- 41:13Speaker 1: And then we'll just move on to But what does
- 41:15Speaker 1: Shadur do? He threw a pick? Is he washed? Is
- 41:17Speaker 1: he done? Is it over?
- 41:19Speaker 2: So it's the Shadeur story though, Like that's been such
- 41:22Speaker 2: a headline since he fell in the draft or maybe
- 41:25Speaker 2: didn't fall into whatever, it's been such a storyline, but
- 41:27Speaker 2: such a hot topic to talk about. He finally gets
- 41:29Speaker 2: a start and it was one of those games like
- 41:30Speaker 2: I didn't watch the game because it was Brown's Raiders,
- 41:33Speaker 2: but like after they win and I see people throwing
- 41:35Speaker 2: up his highlights on the internet and stuff, I'm like,
- 41:37Speaker 2: you know, I'm wanting to go in and see, like, Okay,
- 41:39Speaker 2: let's see how how he did in the post game,
- 41:41Speaker 2: Like I want to hear from Shadur, and then I
- 41:42Speaker 2: hear him in the postgame press, I'm like, oh no.
- 41:45Speaker 1: No, because you're watching unfold, you're seeing someone like live
- 41:48Speaker 1: on a wind way too hard, which we've all seen,
- 41:50Speaker 1: whether it be high school, college, NFL, we've all we
- 41:53Speaker 1: all know of a guy in our head right now
- 41:55Speaker 1: that rode that high a little too hard, and it's like, oh, buddy,
- 41:59Speaker 1: there is a cataclysmic situation coming down the pipe for
- 42:02Speaker 1: you right now.
- 42:03Speaker 2: You just think to yourself, like, all right, if you
- 42:04Speaker 2: want to apply all this pressure to you, which again
- 42:06Speaker 2: I respect you, you gotta go out and you got
- 42:08Speaker 2: to continue to sling the rock. You got to continue
- 42:10Speaker 2: to get better so he can continue to, you know,
- 42:13Speaker 2: speak to his haters after.
- 42:14Speaker 1: Yeah, there restricts me as a guy, that is. I
- 42:17Speaker 1: don't think he's playing three D chess. I don't think
- 42:19Speaker 1: he's like sitting there looking five six moves ahead of
- 42:21Speaker 1: everybody else right now. He's a moment type of cat
- 42:24Speaker 1: and well he's in a great moment right now. But
- 42:27Speaker 1: I think if Sunday, if he lays an egg on Sunday,
- 42:29Speaker 1: against the forty nine ers. He's like, oh shit, I
- 42:31Speaker 1: probably should have said those things.
- 42:33Speaker 2: And you know, speaking of great moments, so a great
- 42:35Speaker 2: moment we got to live in yesterday. They didn't win
- 42:36Speaker 2: the football game, but just the feeling and moment that
- 42:40Speaker 2: we get to hold on to and capture that we'll
- 42:43Speaker 2: be telling our kids about one day or telling the
- 42:45Speaker 2: next generations about. But Jamis Winston, Yeah, going out there,
- 42:50Speaker 2: slinging the rock, catching touchdown passes. It's trick plays. Like
- 42:56Speaker 2: it's so fun to watch that man play football. It
- 42:59Speaker 2: really is, right, it really is. Like anytime he's on
- 43:02Speaker 2: he gets to be the starting quarterback, you don't know
- 43:04Speaker 2: what's gonna happen, but you know it's gonna be electric.
- 43:06Speaker 2: You're gonna get a pregame speech, which he gave. He's like, well,
- 43:09Speaker 2: we might be inside or what do he say something?
- 43:10Speaker 1: He said we might be inside, we'd be outside today
- 43:12Speaker 1: or the opposite. I'm not even sure.
- 43:14Speaker 5: Yeah, but we might be outside, but we inside his
- 43:19Speaker 5: you know, and all this streamers and all the networks
- 43:21Speaker 5: and everyone's fighting for like content, someone needs to buy
- 43:24Speaker 5: Jameis Winston's exclusive pregame speech, and it's only allowed to
- 43:28Speaker 5: air on your network. Yeah, that is like it is
- 43:33Speaker 5: must listen, must watch, whatever you want to classify it.
- 43:36Speaker 5: As we were doing, we had a lot of like
- 43:38Speaker 5: game breaks, you know, during the game, we'll like go
- 43:40Speaker 5: to CHRISA. Thompson in the studio at Fox and she'll
- 43:44Speaker 5: do like a game break and she'll give us an
- 43:45Speaker 5: update when a team scores or whatever. And then early
- 43:48Speaker 5: in our game they went to a bunch of game
- 43:50Speaker 5: breaks because the Giants, you know, he caught the like
- 43:53Speaker 5: flea flicker touchdown or whatever he caught and Shakespeare a touchdown.
- 43:57Speaker 5: So it kept being like Jamis Winston highlights the first
- 44:00Speaker 5: half of our game breaks. And he's just he is
- 44:04Speaker 5: a thrill a minute. You talk about a guy who's
- 44:07Speaker 5: gonna let it rip and a couple of them might
- 44:08Speaker 5: go to the wrong team, but like, he doesn't bad
- 44:10Speaker 5: and I he does not care, He's unfazed, does not
- 44:13Speaker 5: affect his next throw. He he is a special cat
- 44:18Speaker 5: as far as just his personality and his outlook, and
- 44:21Speaker 5: everybody who's ever played with him absolutely loves him.
- 44:25Speaker 2: Loves him. Bro the leadership he keeps like while he's
- 44:27Speaker 2: in the game, like talking to his guys just everything. Yeah,
- 44:31Speaker 2: I enjoy watching him.
- 44:32Speaker 5: He's really Greg.
- 44:33Speaker 1: Have you Greg, have you seen the movie Animal House?
- 44:36Speaker 5: Yeah?
- 44:36Speaker 1: Okay, good, because I know Will hasn't, so I want
- 44:38Speaker 1: to kind of give this reference. But his pregame speeches
- 44:41Speaker 1: remind me when Bludo stands up, he's like, over, was
- 44:43Speaker 1: it over? When the Germans bomb Pole Harbor, the guy
- 44:45Speaker 1: leans Beck goes, just let him go. He's on a
- 44:47Speaker 1: roll like that? Is that to me? Is James Woodson
- 44:50Speaker 1: every time he's got a mic on him, and I'm like, bro,
- 44:52Speaker 1: he might say things that we the common man can't understand,
- 44:57Speaker 1: and I clearly am a common man, but I I
- 45:00Speaker 1: absolutely love it, Like anytime when he went and did
- 45:02Speaker 1: the Super Bowl? Was it with Fox? I think he
- 45:04Speaker 1: did like a Fox Super Bowl thing where he was
- 45:06Speaker 1: like going around New Orleans. I'm like, bro, this dude
- 45:08Speaker 1: needs to be on TV twenty four to seven. He's
- 45:11Speaker 1: gonna make more money off the field when he's done
- 45:13Speaker 1: than when he's like now, when he's on the field
- 45:15Speaker 1: playing in the NFL. It's so beautiful, Bro, it's amazing.
- 45:20Speaker 5: He's something.
- 45:21Speaker 2: Usually he's one.
- 45:21Speaker 1: Of the kind. It's it sickens me that Will does
- 45:23Speaker 1: not understand that reference.
- 45:25Speaker 2: I know one day I will one day I'll watch
- 45:26Speaker 2: animal Hut he got to but his quote was we outside,
- 45:29Speaker 2: but we inside. And then he's like, I don't care
- 45:33Speaker 2: what boundaries you have to cross, any by any means necessary.
- 45:37Speaker 2: However we can get the win today. I know, if
- 45:39Speaker 2: I'm like staying in the heddle, I'll be like laughing
- 45:41Speaker 2: to myself, like I don't care what boundaries you have
- 45:43Speaker 2: to cross, dude, he was just thinking of the most
- 45:45Speaker 2: extreme shit.
- 45:46Speaker 5: You're I hated pregame speeches. It didn't matter who it was.
- 45:50Speaker 5: It could have been like the guy in Miracle, the
- 45:53Speaker 5: coach in Miracle given like the greatest speech before a
- 45:55Speaker 5: game of all time when we beat the Russians. Like
- 45:58Speaker 5: I was not a big like pregame speech guy. I
- 46:01Speaker 5: didn't need it, I didn't care for it. I would
- 46:04Speaker 5: just if I was his teammate. I know, I would
- 46:06Speaker 5: be like in my back of my mind like roll
- 46:08Speaker 5: like rolling my eyes, like all right, let's move on
- 46:11Speaker 5: with this.
- 46:11Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 46:12Speaker 5: But there's something about when Jamis does it that like
- 46:16Speaker 5: it does hold my interest for a guy who hates
- 46:20Speaker 5: pregame speeches, there's something about Jamis that I'm actually like
- 46:24Speaker 5: all right, keep going, dude, have your moment.
- 46:26Speaker 3: You know.
- 46:26Speaker 1: I was. I was a little bit like that. Anytime
- 46:29Speaker 1: someone was like kind of nice on the mic, like
- 46:30Speaker 1: they gave a good pregame speech, I'd be front and center.
- 46:33Speaker 1: All right, I'm ready to hear this. But when you
- 46:35Speaker 1: get the guy be like we all hear we brothers,
- 46:37Speaker 1: it's like, all right, let's fucking let's go.
- 46:39Speaker 2: Play the football. Got it? Like yeah, for each other,
- 46:42Speaker 2: get it?
- 46:43Speaker 5: Anybody else all we.
- 46:44Speaker 1: Have no one here believes And I was like, I
- 46:46Speaker 1: get it, I've heard all the things. Let's move on.
- 46:48Speaker 5: But you got to host game speech is better?
- 46:50Speaker 1: Yeah, dude. If I had a high school coach, Charlie
- 46:52Speaker 1: Ragel that would give these pregame speeches and my eyes
- 46:55Speaker 1: would be welting up before the game, like I'm prepared
- 46:57Speaker 1: to die for this man, it would the greatest, greatest.
- 47:02Speaker 5: That's a different animal.
- 47:03Speaker 2: That's that's that's when you're ready, like you're you're you're
- 47:06Speaker 2: any any what any coach says can get you motivated
- 47:08Speaker 2: in high school because it's Friday night, it's all these
- 47:10Speaker 2: movies that are playing in your head. You want to
- 47:12Speaker 2: go to the league. All this stuff like that's greatness.
- 47:14Speaker 2: But once you're there, it is it's We did have
- 47:16Speaker 2: one guy's name was Martrell Spade where he got people
- 47:19Speaker 2: juiced to be like, fuck the beast, we want war,
- 47:21Speaker 2: and everybody would just be going nuts with them.
- 47:24Speaker 1: That's that's a line to me. I'd like, oh, ship,
- 47:26Speaker 1: like he's doing, like the next speech he gives, I'm
- 47:28Speaker 1: gonna kind of shoot myself up to the front a
- 47:30Speaker 1: little bit, dude.
- 47:31Speaker 2: That is that. But then there's something that you're sitting
- 47:33Speaker 2: there like Greg's talking about, and we're like, all right, hey,
- 47:35Speaker 2: like let's just get the We had, uh. Deshaun Golston
- 47:38Speaker 2: one year, he was he was with us in Washington,
- 47:41Speaker 2: love D Gold, love D Gold. But he was giving
- 47:44Speaker 2: us a speech like after practice, talking about the upcoming game,
- 47:46Speaker 2: and I just got the phone with my boy. He
- 47:49Speaker 2: was he's in the military and Afghanistan. He you know,
- 47:52Speaker 2: he would have to pull the trigger on anybody. Could
- 47:54Speaker 2: be little kids, could be a little girl. He's got
- 47:56Speaker 2: to pull the trigger. Just when we go into this
- 47:58Speaker 2: game this weekend, flip the switch, take the safety off,
- 48:02Speaker 2: and I like look to my I like look to
- 48:04Speaker 2: my teammate on the left. I'm like he wants to
- 48:05Speaker 2: kill kids this week.
- 48:08Speaker 1: Dude, this is this is textbook. You know a bad
- 48:11Speaker 1: speech is coming. Pre game. Everyone takes a knee. All right, yeah,
- 48:15Speaker 1: our father, Lord Heaven, like you do the prayer. Everyone
- 48:18Speaker 1: kind of stands up. Coach hits you with something like
- 48:21Speaker 1: Rabel would always kind of talk about like how the
- 48:22Speaker 1: game was about to go, and he did a great
- 48:24Speaker 1: job of like crystal ball in the game. He finishes,
- 48:27Speaker 1: all right, bring it up, let's get out of here.
- 48:28Speaker 1: And someone goes, hey, I got something to say real
- 48:31Speaker 1: quick that that is the moment you know we're about
- 48:34Speaker 1: to lose some juice right here. That's when you know
- 48:38Speaker 1: ship is about to go downhill. And it's always a
- 48:41Speaker 1: guy that almost had to see on his chest. Hey,
- 48:43Speaker 1: I got something. I mean, I mean, ninja smoking, fade
- 48:48Speaker 1: to the back real quick as this. It can't be
- 48:51Speaker 1: a top, can't You can't be a cherry on top guy?
- 48:54Speaker 5: Man.
- 48:55Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 48:55Speaker 1: Everybody slowly puts their arm down. Yeah, it's I got
- 49:02Speaker 1: something to say. Ah, fuck, dude, here we go, Here
- 49:06Speaker 1: we go, dude.
- 49:07Speaker 2: How about the how about the rams just beating them
- 49:10Speaker 2: the bucks last night?
- 49:10Speaker 1: Donkey stomping like and here's a This is a good
- 49:14Speaker 1: example of like we talked about Shadur and like, hey,
- 49:17Speaker 1: now the haters are gonna come for you no matter what.
- 49:19Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield has found himself in this world where he
- 49:22Speaker 1: was one of the most hated guy by the quote
- 49:24Speaker 1: unquote media haters when he first got in the league.
- 49:27Speaker 1: Now it's like Baker can do no wrong. Like he
- 49:30Speaker 1: wasn't having a great game, ends up getting hurt and
- 49:32Speaker 1: the Rams run away. For everyone's like, if Baker stays healthy,
- 49:35Speaker 1: let me get this team healthy. Like this is a
- 49:36Speaker 1: contending team. So your heart goes out to the Bucks.
- 49:39Speaker 1: But Matthew Stafford man is incredible with twenty five touchdowns,
- 49:43Speaker 1: zero interceptions, thirty seven years old.
- 49:45Speaker 5: It might be twenty seven.
- 49:47Speaker 1: Excuse me, twenty seven, twenty eight, Oh, Mitch over here five?
- 49:53Speaker 2: How many Mitch?
- 49:54Speaker 1: Go ahead? Hit the mic? What is it?
- 49:55Speaker 3: In the last eight games, stafford is twenty five touchdowns
- 49:58Speaker 3: and zero interceptions.
- 50:00Speaker 1: He's a surgeon out there right now, a surgeon.
- 50:02Speaker 5: He's unbelievable.
- 50:03Speaker 2: Yeah, you got him as a front runner for the
- 50:05Speaker 2: MVP race. I know it's kind of him and Drake
- 50:08Speaker 2: Mays who everybody I say.
- 50:09Speaker 5: It's him and Drake May. I think a lot of
- 50:11Speaker 5: that is starting to come into and again, we got
- 50:13Speaker 5: six weeks left, so a lot could change. But yeah,
- 50:16Speaker 5: as of right now, it's it's him and Drake May.
- 50:19Speaker 5: I think I've separated themselves from the pack. So they
- 50:23Speaker 5: check all the boxes quarterbacks, top teams in the league,
- 50:27Speaker 5: you know, they covered all. I think Vrabel's coach of
- 50:30Speaker 5: the year, barring some catastrophe down the stretch. I know,
- 50:34Speaker 5: how how does he you know, turning around the Patriots
- 50:36Speaker 5: and literally one season is pretty remarkable. But yeah, I
- 50:40Speaker 5: mean watching Stafford play last night, it wasn't too long ago.
- 50:45Speaker 5: Back in August, there was a lot of people saying,
- 50:47Speaker 5: is this guy ever going to play again? Right? He
- 50:49Speaker 5: can't practice, he's out six weeks, he can't move. He's
- 50:52Speaker 5: got it back, and now not only is he playing
- 50:54Speaker 5: on one of the best teams in the league, if
- 50:55Speaker 5: not the best team in the league, he's the best
- 50:58Speaker 5: player in the league. And he's starting games eleven for
- 51:01Speaker 5: eleven and he's letting it rip. And Devonte Adams looks
- 51:03Speaker 5: like Devontae Adams at five years ago, and Puka Nakua
- 51:06Speaker 5: and running this McVeigh offense. So yeah, he's he's incredible.
- 51:12Speaker 5: They won that game. We did a couple two weeks ago,
- 51:14Speaker 5: that great game against Seattle. Neither offense played particularly great. Obviously,
- 51:19Speaker 5: he just didn't turn Stafford just did a nice job
- 51:21Speaker 5: not turning the ball over, and they did just enough
- 51:23Speaker 5: to win the game. But his entire body of work. Yeah,
- 51:27Speaker 5: if if I'm casting a vote right now, I'm voting
- 51:30Speaker 5: for him.
- 51:31Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a beast, dude.
- 51:33Speaker 1: And I cannot wait to see the rematch of those
- 51:35Speaker 1: two teams play because, yeah, Sam Donald has four interceptions
- 51:38Speaker 1: in that game and they still have a field goal
- 51:39Speaker 1: to go and win it at the end. Those are
- 51:42Speaker 1: the two teams in my head, especially with the Eagles
- 51:45Speaker 1: absolutely fumbling club. Look at me fumbling a twenty one.
- 51:49Speaker 1: Oh they're up twenty one.
- 51:51Speaker 2: They haven't blown a twenty one point lead since nineteen
- 51:53Speaker 2: ninety nine.
- 51:54Speaker 1: Oh I was eight. I mean that was Greg was
- 51:57Speaker 1: in college. That's crazy high school. I mean interest, Those
- 52:03Speaker 1: are the two teams in my head that it's like, oh,
- 52:05Speaker 1: this is going to be the representative out of the NFC.
- 52:08Speaker 1: They are, They're that good. You see the Seahawks step
- 52:11Speaker 1: upon from a defensive standpoint when they played the Rams.
- 52:13Speaker 1: They're getting that many turnovers. It's it's beautiful to watch
- 52:17Speaker 1: the NFC West right now. They are They're beautiful.
- 52:20Speaker 2: What do you make of let's just get on the
- 52:23Speaker 2: topic of the Eagles. What do you what do you
- 52:24Speaker 2: make of the Eagles?
- 52:27Speaker 5: Man? They are a tough nut to crack. I'll tell
- 52:29Speaker 5: you I've had them a couple times this year, and
- 52:33Speaker 5: I've gone into the game saying, I don't know why
- 52:36Speaker 5: they're not better on offense. You know, they got a
- 52:38Speaker 5: J Brown and DeVante Smith and Saquon Barkley, and you know,
- 52:41Speaker 5: two of the best tackles in football and a really
- 52:43Speaker 5: good offensive line and Jalen Hurts is a Super Bowl MVP.
- 52:47Speaker 5: I would find myself going into games and being like, then,
- 52:50Speaker 5: why aren't they better? Like what is missing? Why is
- 52:53Speaker 5: this not a consistent, high flying offense? And I had
- 52:56Speaker 5: them early in the year against the Rams. They did
- 52:58Speaker 5: nothing in the first half, and and in the second
- 53:00Speaker 5: half they absolutely explode in they come back and they
- 53:04Speaker 5: beat the Rams, and I walk out of the stadium,
- 53:05Speaker 5: I'm like, they're really good Vikings. And it was probably
- 53:10Speaker 5: the best game Jalen Hurts has played all season long.
- 53:13Speaker 5: He was incredible. He was letting it rip passing game.
- 53:16Speaker 5: Then they get Saquon going after they kind of spread
- 53:18Speaker 5: everybody out, and I walk out and I'm like, Okay,
- 53:21Speaker 5: they're pretty good. So like every time I see them
- 53:23Speaker 5: in person, I walk out of the stadium saying they're
- 53:26Speaker 5: wildly talented. They're really hard to beat because they don't
- 53:30Speaker 5: have just one path to victory. They can beat you defensively,
- 53:33Speaker 5: they can beat you on the ground, in the air,
- 53:34Speaker 5: they can win close games, they can win low scoring,
- 53:37Speaker 5: They've won some shootouts. They're just a tough beat. But
- 53:41Speaker 5: then you watch them on a larger scale, you watch
- 53:44Speaker 5: them over a larger sample size, and you just say
- 53:46Speaker 5: there's something missing, Like why is a team with that
- 53:49Speaker 5: roster and that depth and that pedigree of coaching and
- 53:53Speaker 5: the amount of wins that they've had, Like why are
- 53:56Speaker 5: they so up and down? Why is there so much
- 53:59Speaker 5: drama coming out? Why is there a story every single
- 54:02Speaker 5: week coming out of the locker room? It just I
- 54:04Speaker 5: don't get it. I'm a huge Sirianni guy. I love him.
- 54:07Speaker 5: I love that he wears his emotions on his sleeve.
- 54:09Speaker 5: He's got a little shit to him. I like that.
- 54:11Speaker 5: I don't need my coach to be a choir boy
- 54:13Speaker 5: like I like, he's got some fire and shit to him.
- 54:17Speaker 5: I just can't put my finger on why it's such
- 54:20Speaker 5: a roller coaster and why it's such a wild ride,
- 54:22Speaker 5: because personnel wise, I think, I don't know. Is it
- 54:27Speaker 5: the turnover of the offensive coordinators every year? They've had
- 54:30Speaker 5: five coordinators over the last couple Like, maybe it's that,
- 54:33Speaker 5: Maybe it's I really I They're one of the few
- 54:37Speaker 5: teams that I just have a really hard time coming
- 54:39Speaker 5: up with, like a concrete here's what they are, because
- 54:42Speaker 5: every time you think you do the next game right,
- 54:45Speaker 5: they're the complete opposite.
- 54:47Speaker 2: Right. It's because I've been I've kind of been trolling
- 54:52Speaker 2: the Eagles fan base all year long because, like I'm
- 54:54Speaker 2: with you, like I've always felt something when you're watching
- 54:58Speaker 2: the game. To me, it's like they don't have as
- 55:00Speaker 2: near as good of a running game as they did
- 55:02Speaker 2: last year. Which it's like, Okay, say they take a
- 55:04Speaker 2: step back, you still got Saquon Barkley, you still got
- 55:06Speaker 2: a pretty decent line of scrimmage. Is it the play calling,
- 55:09Speaker 2: the simplicity of it at times? Is it tendency oriented?
- 55:12Speaker 2: And then also it's like you we all understand now
- 55:16Speaker 2: that there is drama inside the locker room, whether it's
- 55:18Speaker 2: with AJ and Jalen, with other teammates with it all
- 55:20Speaker 2: seems to kind of go around Jalen a little bit.
- 55:23Speaker 2: And when you when you put a microscope on Jalen's play,
- 55:26Speaker 2: to me, when I watch Jalen, hurts play like unless
- 55:30Speaker 2: he knows exactly what he's doing with the football, or
- 55:33Speaker 2: a guy is just wide open in front of his face,
- 55:35Speaker 2: he's not letting it rip. Like his timing isn't always there.
- 55:38Speaker 2: His timing is again when he's when he's when he's
- 55:41Speaker 2: on I say in rhythm. I'm not saying he gets
- 55:43Speaker 2: in rhythm all the time. But when he knows exactly
- 55:45Speaker 2: what he's doing, when that ball is snapped, he looks good.
- 55:48Speaker 2: But the moment he hits the first his first option
- 55:51Speaker 2: gets taken away or he's got to move his feet
- 55:53Speaker 2: a little bit. He misses guys over the middle that
- 55:55Speaker 2: are right there. It would be tight windows where you
- 55:57Speaker 2: see a lot of a lot of quarterbacks still zipping
- 55:59Speaker 2: those in. He doesn't take those chances. And so when
- 56:02Speaker 2: you have that and you don't have a run game
- 56:04Speaker 2: like that, offense is very average and it's crazy to
- 56:07Speaker 2: stay with the talent and the names that the names
- 56:10Speaker 2: that they have on that offense. Defense, I think they
- 56:12Speaker 2: play elite football. Like they're good front front to back.
- 56:15Speaker 2: They got a lot of depth, They got hogs up front,
- 56:17Speaker 2: they got linebackers that can run and hit. They got
- 56:19Speaker 2: dbs that can cover, except for you know, people kind
- 56:22Speaker 2: of put a blemish on adri Jackson at times.
- 56:25Speaker 1: But he's played better though, and he got hurt, Yeah,
- 56:27Speaker 1: he got.
- 56:27Speaker 2: Hurt this pass game. But their defense plays really well.
- 56:30Speaker 2: And when it's all gonna when it comes down to
- 56:32Speaker 2: the offense and you're not gonna be able to run
- 56:34Speaker 2: the ball with Saquon Barkley, dude, if you're not getting
- 56:36Speaker 2: the ball out fast with Jalen or just taking these
- 56:39Speaker 2: random shots down field at times, again when he knows
- 56:41Speaker 2: what he's going to be doing with the football, like
- 56:43Speaker 2: they're a very average team.
- 56:44Speaker 1: Mm hmm, No, I agree to it. I think it
- 56:47Speaker 1: goes you have to look at two specific things because
- 56:49Speaker 1: you're right, well, you point out the roster they have
- 56:51Speaker 1: an offense, greg like, there should be no reason for
- 56:54Speaker 1: them not to be successful in the NFL. They are
- 56:56Speaker 1: a like an All Star cast. Their offense Lane Johnson's
- 56:59Speaker 1: officely down. But there's two things to me, you look
- 57:01Speaker 1: at you look at Jalen Hurts the way you just explained,
- 57:03Speaker 1: or you look at who the OC is and how
- 57:05Speaker 1: they're calling the game so or how they're schematically like
- 57:09Speaker 1: getting these players open because you have aliens on both
- 57:12Speaker 1: sides of you and God are like God, you have
- 57:14Speaker 1: a good tight end also and you have the protection.
- 57:17Speaker 1: So to me, it's like, all right, it's either got
- 57:19Speaker 1: to be the OC or it's got to be the
- 57:20Speaker 1: quarterback that's not doing what they're supposed to be doing.
- 57:23Speaker 1: Because it's it is the most confusing offense to look at.
- 57:27Speaker 1: Clump and I were tics met yesterday. It's like at
- 57:29Speaker 1: this point, you know the Cowboys are starting to come
- 57:31Speaker 1: back and they're gonna win, but it's like, this is
- 57:33Speaker 1: the most boring offense to watch when you have these aliens,
- 57:36Speaker 1: it should be one of the more exciting offenses to watch.
- 57:38Speaker 1: But you're right, like he does not if his first
- 57:40Speaker 1: if his first read is not open, it's like you
- 57:43Speaker 1: have no idea what's gonna take place?
- 57:45Speaker 2: Yeah, Like and again people might be thinking, I'm just
- 57:48Speaker 2: like pulling this out of thin air too, because again,
- 57:50Speaker 2: I'll troll some fan bases at times. But if there's
- 57:53Speaker 2: like there was like eight fifty two on the clock
- 57:55Speaker 2: yesterday in the fourth quarter, he had the tight end
- 57:57Speaker 2: I got, or whoever the tight end was. If he
- 57:59Speaker 2: just of the middle, he's got an easy completion right there.
- 58:02Speaker 2: And then the very last play of the game, Dallas
- 58:05Speaker 2: is in cover one and his first reads not open.
- 58:08Speaker 2: He has enough time to still rip the ball before
- 58:10Speaker 2: he gets hit or before he takes a sack, whatever
- 58:13Speaker 2: happened on that last play. But Devonte Smith whoops, whoops,
- 58:17Speaker 2: oh buddy for a corner route, and he just doesn't.
- 58:19Speaker 2: He doesn't rip the ball because he's not taking those chances.
- 58:22Speaker 1: And hey, Tid, you go back and watch that film
- 58:24Speaker 1: and you see where Jalen Hurts throws it. You see
- 58:27Speaker 1: receivers open and in other parts of the field, and
- 58:30Speaker 1: it's like, it's tough, Greg, what are we doing here?
- 58:33Speaker 5: Here's the one big thing that I'll leave And this
- 58:35Speaker 5: is not so much specifically about Philly as much as
- 58:40Speaker 5: he's just like a general observation around the league going
- 58:44Speaker 5: from one year to the next. There's a couple things
- 58:47Speaker 5: that are sustainable, and a couple things that inevitably regress
- 58:51Speaker 5: back to the mean. One of them is defense in general,
- 58:55Speaker 5: the ability for that defense to take the ball away.
- 58:59Speaker 5: And then the other thing is the explosive nature of
- 59:01Speaker 5: a run game. Typically those things don't last year over
- 59:05Speaker 5: year over year. There's some sort of like anomaly of
- 59:09Speaker 5: a season. Right, you're just talking about Minnesota. Last year
- 59:12Speaker 5: they had thirty three takeaways. This year they have nine.
- 59:17Speaker 5: It's the same defensive coordinator, give or take a lot
- 59:20Speaker 5: of the same guys. I know Grenard's missed some times,
- 59:22Speaker 5: Van Ginkles missed some times. Last year he was incredible.
- 59:25Speaker 5: So there's always nuance. But that's the NFL. Right, You're
- 59:28Speaker 5: not gonna have the same health track records, You're not
- 59:31Speaker 5: gonna have the same people at every position year over year.
- 59:34Speaker 5: It's hard to wrest your hat on those elements. The
- 59:37Speaker 5: one element of NFL football that for the most part,
- 59:42Speaker 5: carries over year after year after year is really high
- 59:45Speaker 5: level quarterback play. Really good quarterbacks. Range of outcomes is
- 59:49Speaker 5: typically smaller. They could have better years or worse years,
- 59:53Speaker 5: and some sort of level of you know, there's a
- 59:55Speaker 5: spectrum of their performance, but it's typically not the same
- 59:58Speaker 5: regression from top tier quarterbacks, top tier running games. It's
- 1:00:02Speaker 5: gonna be up and down. The ability of a defense
- 1:00:05Speaker 5: to defend points giving up historically like it just those
- 1:00:09Speaker 5: things don't typically last over long periods of time. So
- 1:00:13Speaker 5: we're seeing a regression in the ability to take the
- 1:00:16Speaker 5: ball away. You're seeing a regression in the explosive runs
- 1:00:19Speaker 5: that really powered their Super Bowl run. And then obviously
- 1:00:21Speaker 5: Jalen Hurts was awesome in the Super Bowl and was
- 1:00:24Speaker 5: the MVP. But Saquon ripping off sixty five yard touchdowns
- 1:00:27Speaker 5: what seemed like every single playoff game he ripped off
- 1:00:30Speaker 5: two against the Rams to beat them or else they
- 1:00:33Speaker 5: go home. It's just hard to count on that. You're
- 1:00:36Speaker 5: just not going to get that over long periods of time,
- 1:00:39Speaker 5: over multiple seasons in a row. Regression is real, and
- 1:00:44Speaker 5: if you're built your team around those things, you better
- 1:00:47Speaker 5: strike while you're riding the high because no matter how
- 1:00:49Speaker 5: much you coach it, you can't guarantee how turnovers come,
- 1:00:53Speaker 5: and you can't guarantee explosive run plays. It just doesn't
- 1:00:56Speaker 5: work like that. And the Eagles are one of one hundred,
- 1:00:59Speaker 5: you know, hundred examples going on around the league where
- 1:01:02Speaker 5: teams aren't as good as they were last year, and
- 1:01:04Speaker 5: people are trying to figure out why you.
- 1:01:06Speaker 2: Broke that down really well, really well, because I always
- 1:01:09Speaker 2: hate too, like when when you start to like zoom
- 1:01:12Speaker 2: in on a team, then you have to zoom in
- 1:01:14Speaker 2: on certain players, and then you also it's like you
- 1:01:16Speaker 2: have to like nitpick their game a lot, like you
- 1:01:18Speaker 2: kind of bringing it back out and taking a couple
- 1:01:21Speaker 2: taking a couple of samples from explosive runs and turnovers
- 1:01:24Speaker 2: and everything else. How it all marries together. It's like
- 1:01:26Speaker 2: there's another element there too that stays true in that's
- 1:01:28Speaker 2: high level quarterback play. You broke that down really well.
- 1:01:32Speaker 2: Just wanted to say that, thank you.
- 1:01:33Speaker 1: Yeah, giving the flowers. I think this might be the
- 1:01:36Speaker 1: last game before we let you go. But the Chiefs
- 1:01:39Speaker 1: keep the playoff chances alive. They play against the Colts,
- 1:01:42Speaker 1: they go to overtime, they end up when being the
- 1:01:44Speaker 1: Colts twenty three twenty at home. Will, and this is
- 1:01:47Speaker 1: just a note Will getting cooked for his Chiefs no
- 1:01:49Speaker 1: playoffs take. Does he still believe they won't make it?
- 1:01:52Speaker 1: That's a question for Will. But the Chiefs are down eleven, right,
- 1:01:55Speaker 1: and they rally back, make it they're down twenty to nine,
- 1:01:58Speaker 1: rally back to go to the overtime and they end
- 1:02:01Speaker 1: up winning that game. What is this? Is this the
- 1:02:05Speaker 1: Colts fumbling the bag?
- 1:02:06Speaker 5: Here?
- 1:02:06Speaker 2: WILLI?
- 1:02:07Speaker 1: Is this is this the Chiefs that they're Hey, they're
- 1:02:09Speaker 1: actually just that good defense. I'll let you take this
- 1:02:12Speaker 1: one first before you go to Greg.
- 1:02:15Speaker 2: The Chiefs are the most formidable opponent I have ever
- 1:02:18Speaker 2: faced in my life. I've been hunting this team for
- 1:02:20Speaker 2: a few years now, and anytime you feel like you
- 1:02:23Speaker 2: got them dead in the rights, they avoid it somehow.
- 1:02:26Speaker 2: And they looked good on that comeback yesterday against the Colts.
- 1:02:28Speaker 2: Couple penalties there that you can start to grab. Here
- 1:02:31Speaker 2: comes the referees for the Chiefs.
- 1:02:33Speaker 1: Now, this is well, this is Elmore and bugs Bunny
- 1:02:37Speaker 1: to a team we've seen this battle before. But keep going.
- 1:02:40Speaker 2: Yeah, look, you know, Willie, see, I personally don't have
- 1:02:43Speaker 2: them making the playoffs. Like, there are still many opportunities
- 1:02:45Speaker 2: on the board left. It's gonna start getting tight. I'm
- 1:02:48Speaker 2: gonna start getting a little bit more uncomfortable in the pocket.
- 1:02:50Speaker 2: But I've lived in this lane so long. I got
- 1:02:52Speaker 2: to stay in the lane. So I'm going to UH.
- 1:02:54Speaker 2: I don't have them making the playoffs. Colts had a
- 1:02:56Speaker 2: tough beat No TA against a good Chiefs football team
- 1:02:59Speaker 2: in Arrowhead. Colts are gonna have to take care of
- 1:03:02Speaker 2: business this weekend against the Texans because they could find
- 1:03:05Speaker 2: themselves in a little bit of a dust up there
- 1:03:07Speaker 2: in the AFC South that we were talking about earlier. Yeah,
- 1:03:10Speaker 2: but I'm not you know, look, you can't hit them all.
- 1:03:14Speaker 2: You can't hit them all. Yesterday I thought it was
- 1:03:15Speaker 2: gonna be I thought I was gonna take an ass
- 1:03:17Speaker 2: whooping all day long. I was on ESPN National Television
- 1:03:20Speaker 2: just telling all the families in Kansas City, get ready
- 1:03:23Speaker 2: for your children to start ask for bow Nicks, Jerseys,
- 1:03:26Speaker 2: Chiefs dynasty's over. Rome is falling. You're not gonna make
- 1:03:29Speaker 2: the playoffs in twenty fourteen. Now there's a heartbeat there.
- 1:03:32Speaker 2: I also was on national television talking about Dallas Cowboys
- 1:03:35Speaker 2: are gonna beat the Eagles, because again I'm bad of
- 1:03:38Speaker 2: picking against the Eagles. The Eagles been stuffing it down
- 1:03:40Speaker 2: my throat week in and week out. But I saw
- 1:03:42Speaker 2: something with the Dallas Cowboys. It looked real bleak yesterday
- 1:03:45Speaker 2: when the when the Cowboys were down twenty one to nothing,
- 1:03:47Speaker 2: but to get that win out at the end of
- 1:03:49Speaker 2: the night, that felt good. But as far as the
- 1:03:51Speaker 2: Chiefs go, I still look, they're still in a division
- 1:03:54Speaker 2: that the Broncos are gonna win. They're still gonna have
- 1:03:56Speaker 2: to battle the wild car spot with the Chargers. You're
- 1:03:58Speaker 2: looking at Jaguars, you're looking at the Texans. Who else
- 1:04:03Speaker 2: in the AFC that could they dealers with Steelers or Ravens.
- 1:04:06Speaker 2: You could go, you know, you can go either dision, right,
- 1:04:09Speaker 2: but they're going to be in a wild card hunt.
- 1:04:11Speaker 2: The Chiefs are as they try to make the playoffs.
- 1:04:13Speaker 2: So it's kind of the only thing I can hang
- 1:04:15Speaker 2: my hat on is Okay, they beat the Colts, they
- 1:04:17Speaker 2: were at Arrowhead. They will not be at Arrowhead come
- 1:04:20Speaker 2: playoff time.
- 1:04:22Speaker 1: So if they make the playoffs, is that do you
- 1:04:24Speaker 1: win the war? They make the playoffs, but they get kicked,
- 1:04:27Speaker 1: they get bounce in the wild card.
- 1:04:28Speaker 2: There's still a job to be done, and that's keeping
- 1:04:30Speaker 2: them from winning the super Bowl.
- 1:04:31Speaker 1: Okay, So that that's the that's the farther goal posts,
- 1:04:34Speaker 1: your first goal post. Let's keep them out the playoffs.
- 1:04:36Speaker 2: Yeah, first one you're gonna do I'm gonna do whatever
- 1:04:39Speaker 2: I can to keep this team out of the playoffs.
- 1:04:41Speaker 5: Greg, well, let's just talk about and again I just
- 1:04:44Speaker 5: I catch the recaps of most of these games, but
- 1:04:47Speaker 5: like the main tipping points of what kind of determines
- 1:04:51Speaker 5: the outcome, and I think Shane Steiken, if it wasn't
- 1:04:54Speaker 5: for the job Vrabel's doing, I'd probably say Shane Steiken's
- 1:04:57Speaker 5: the coach of the year because I don't think anybody
- 1:05:00Speaker 5: in a million years thought that the Colts would be
- 1:05:02Speaker 5: having the season that they have had with Daniel Jones
- 1:05:05Speaker 5: and the resurgence of his career and coming off the
- 1:05:08Speaker 5: you know, the poor draft in of Anthony Richardson or
- 1:05:11Speaker 5: the poor development whatever you want to classify that being
- 1:05:14Speaker 5: obviously that was a miss, and then they bring in
- 1:05:16Speaker 5: Daniel Jones and they're having a great year. They look
- 1:05:18Speaker 5: like they're on their way to the playoffs, and they've
- 1:05:21Speaker 5: had some great games. But you look at the end
- 1:05:22Speaker 5: of that game, you have the ball on the plus
- 1:05:26Speaker 5: side of the fifty with four ish minutes to go
- 1:05:30Speaker 5: up by three on fourth and four, and you punt, yeah,
- 1:05:36Speaker 5: because it feels safe. It feels like I don't have
- 1:05:39Speaker 5: to answer for this Hey, the defense has to do
- 1:05:41Speaker 5: a better job getting a stop. Hey, we got to
- 1:05:42Speaker 5: execute in overtime. If you give the ball to Patrick
- 1:05:47Speaker 5: Mahomes to go the long way. Even if you fail
- 1:05:50Speaker 5: and you give him the ball and he goes down
- 1:05:52Speaker 5: and kicks a field goal, you're probably getting the ball back, right,
- 1:05:55Speaker 5: Or he goes down and scores a touchdown to take
- 1:05:57Speaker 5: the lead, you're going to get the ball back. But
- 1:06:00Speaker 5: you punt and I don't know exactly where he took over.
- 1:06:02Speaker 5: Let's say it was a good punt and it's inside
- 1:06:04Speaker 5: the fifteen ten yard line and you pin him back.
- 1:06:06Speaker 5: That's the idea of punting from the plus side of
- 1:06:09Speaker 5: the field. If he scores on you, he probably took
- 1:06:13Speaker 5: up all of it, or it's at least under the
- 1:06:15Speaker 5: two minute by the time he scores by field goal
- 1:06:17Speaker 5: or touchdown, you're not going to possess the ball. And
- 1:06:20Speaker 5: sure as hell, what do they do. They take a long,
- 1:06:22Speaker 5: methodical drive, They run the clock all the way down,
- 1:06:25Speaker 5: they force, they kick a field goal, they force overtime,
- 1:06:28Speaker 5: and Indianapolis never touches the ball again in regulation. So again,
- 1:06:34Speaker 5: once you get to overtime, the variance is out the window, right,
- 1:06:38Speaker 5: overtime is a whole new game. The idea is to
- 1:06:41Speaker 5: make decisions that give you the best chance to win
- 1:06:44Speaker 5: in regulation. You don't punt fourth and four on the
- 1:06:49Speaker 5: plus side of your opponent's team with a three point
- 1:06:51Speaker 5: lead with four minutes that you just can't do it.
- 1:06:53Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, you just.
- 1:06:54Speaker 5: Can't do it. And if you fail and they go
- 1:06:56Speaker 5: the short way and you lose, you've got to stand
- 1:06:59Speaker 5: up the podium and you've got to eat it, like
- 1:07:01Speaker 5: like Dan Campbell does multiple times. You got to eat it.
- 1:07:04Speaker 5: But this whole notion of like I'm gonna let my
- 1:07:07Speaker 5: defense win it, I'm gonna play field position, it's a
- 1:07:10Speaker 5: crock of shit. Teams are continuing to lose and lose
- 1:07:15Speaker 5: and lose because they don't want to stand up there
- 1:07:19Speaker 5: and face the music if it goes the wrong way.
- 1:07:22Speaker 5: They'd rather you lost anyway. But now you hey we
- 1:07:26Speaker 5: got to play better defense. Hey we got to do
- 1:07:27Speaker 5: a better job in overtime. Hey, we got it. But
- 1:07:30Speaker 5: if you fail on fourth and four and you lose,
- 1:07:33Speaker 5: the only question you're being asked is why did you
- 1:07:36Speaker 5: not punt? And coaches are uncomfortable, they don't like it,
- 1:07:39Speaker 5: and this is not unique to Shane Steichen, it's pretty
- 1:07:42Speaker 5: much every coach around the league, with the exception of
- 1:07:44Speaker 5: a couple.
- 1:07:44Speaker 2: It drives me insane, and you give you another assets
- 1:07:48Speaker 2: of the Chiefs, like one of their weaknesses throughout the
- 1:07:50Speaker 2: entire season is running the football right defense is on
- 1:07:52Speaker 2: the field that long. Now their weakness becomes they're able
- 1:07:56Speaker 2: to compliment more and it can become a strength like
- 1:07:58Speaker 2: Kareem Honey, it's up. They end up running the ball
- 1:08:00Speaker 2: well at the end of the game because the defense
- 1:08:01Speaker 2: was on the field for like eighty something plays. They're drained.
- 1:08:04Speaker 2: So now you're getting a check attacked by this Chiefs
- 1:08:06Speaker 2: offense who's not very good at running the football. Now
- 1:08:08Speaker 2: they can basically do everything to you, especially going to ot.
- 1:08:11Speaker 1: Because one thing that Greg doesn't like, which is running
- 1:08:13Speaker 1: the football. The thing that the Chiefs did hold they
- 1:08:18Speaker 1: sat back and they said, from the beginning of the
- 1:08:20Speaker 1: game to the end of the game, we are going
- 1:08:21Speaker 1: to establish the run as a threat that the Colts
- 1:08:25Speaker 1: have to defend. And they did that and it paid
- 1:08:27Speaker 1: off dividends for them. Because the Chiefs, with the way
- 1:08:30Speaker 1: they've kind of changed their game is like they used
- 1:08:32Speaker 1: to be able to splash. Hey, we're gonnahit you with
- 1:08:33Speaker 1: X play. After X play, we're gonna march on the
- 1:08:35Speaker 1: field and a minute and a half and we're gonna
- 1:08:37Speaker 1: get a touchdown. We're gonna move on now. Our defense
- 1:08:39Speaker 1: is going to stand up. The Chiefs have had to
- 1:08:41Speaker 1: change a little bit, and you see it. Most prominent
- 1:08:43Speaker 1: in this game against the Colts is from the first
- 1:08:45Speaker 1: snap to the last step. They utilized the running back
- 1:08:48Speaker 1: as a weapon for them to get them into third
- 1:08:50Speaker 1: and manageable and keep the chains moving. They killed them
- 1:08:53Speaker 1: with time of possession. So if you're stiching, I agree
- 1:08:56Speaker 1: with everything you said. Greg is like you're fourth and
- 1:08:58Speaker 1: four at this point. I think we can all agree.
- 1:09:00Speaker 1: If you're between the forties, you don't punt anymore like
- 1:09:04Speaker 1: you have to. You bend the knee. You live and
- 1:09:06Speaker 1: die by the sword, and you continue to play the
- 1:09:08Speaker 1: game that way. And I think if you go for it,
- 1:09:11Speaker 1: like hey, you get it, you're able to probably win
- 1:09:13Speaker 1: that game. You're gonna kick three or you're gonna end
- 1:09:15Speaker 1: up scoring a touchdown. If you don't get it, you
- 1:09:17Speaker 1: have a lot more time, Like you're pointing out, you're
- 1:09:19Speaker 1: gonna have one, two, maybe even three minutes left to
- 1:09:22Speaker 1: go and put a drive together to have a game
- 1:09:24Speaker 1: winning field goal. So I hate it for Styking because
- 1:09:28Speaker 1: if he doesn't get it, it's like you're damn if
- 1:09:29Speaker 1: you do, damn if you don't. But like, how are
- 1:09:31Speaker 1: you going out? You know, you're out the bitchway, You're
- 1:09:33Speaker 1: out the Hey, I'm gonna die in my swordway, and
- 1:09:36Speaker 1: the die of my swordway is going for it on fourth.
- 1:09:38Speaker 1: But run the football. That's a huge win for the Chiefs.
- 1:09:41Speaker 5: Yeah. And the answer is really easy, Hey, why did
- 1:09:43Speaker 5: you go for it there? Why not punt? The answer
- 1:09:46Speaker 5: is because I'm kicking the ball to arguably the best
- 1:09:48Speaker 5: player of the last of the generation. We've seen him
- 1:09:51Speaker 5: time in time and time again. Go down there and
- 1:09:54Speaker 5: find a way to at least tie that game up. Yeah,
- 1:09:57Speaker 5: So by giving them the ball at the you know,
- 1:10:00Speaker 5: when they possessed the ball, the minus forty five forty
- 1:10:03Speaker 5: whatever it ended up being, as opposed to the minus ten,
- 1:10:08Speaker 5: the likelihood of after they tie the game up, I
- 1:10:12Speaker 5: now will get another possession. Because the goal is not
- 1:10:15Speaker 5: to go to overtime. The goal is to win in regulation.
- 1:10:20Speaker 5: There is no forcing overtime. That is not part of
- 1:10:22Speaker 5: any of these decision processes, and if they are, the
- 1:10:25Speaker 5: coaches are wrong. Every decision is about I want the
- 1:10:27Speaker 5: game to end in regulation with me winning. Their run game,
- 1:10:32Speaker 5: they ran the ball forty one times for one hundred
- 1:10:36Speaker 5: and forty eight yards three point six yards of carry.
- 1:10:39Speaker 1: Love it, Love that that is, I love I love that.
- 1:10:47Speaker 2: Give it to him.
- 1:10:49Speaker 5: They threw for three hundred and fifty two.
- 1:10:51Speaker 1: Yards balanced offense.
- 1:10:53Speaker 2: Love it.
- 1:10:54Speaker 6: No.
- 1:10:54Speaker 5: But the part everyone's forgetting is it's not about ball control.
- 1:10:58Speaker 5: It's not about time of possession. It's about how many
- 1:11:01Speaker 5: points can you score. And until they kicked a an
- 1:11:06Speaker 5: end of game like walk off to send to overtime
- 1:11:09Speaker 5: field goal, only because the Colts decided to give you
- 1:11:14Speaker 5: the ball back, they had seventeen points.
- 1:11:19Speaker 1: Greg, I love where you're coming from. Here's what I'll say, Dude,
- 1:11:21Speaker 1: you can't you are playing points.
- 1:11:23Speaker 5: You're playing running the ball for three and a half yards.
- 1:11:25Speaker 5: I don't care if you ran the ball two hundred
- 1:11:27Speaker 5: and fifty times. You can't run the ball for three
- 1:11:31Speaker 5: and a half yards forty plus times and think you're
- 1:11:34Speaker 5: gonna score any points.
- 1:11:35Speaker 1: You can't score points, Greg, if you are playing a
- 1:11:40Speaker 1: team that is number one, in every major category. On
- 1:11:44Speaker 1: the offense side of the ball, you, as the Chiefs
- 1:11:45Speaker 1: and Andy Retas, sit back and go, Okay, can we
- 1:11:48Speaker 1: go point for point with them? The answer to that
- 1:11:50Speaker 1: is no. So how do you beat a team that
- 1:11:52Speaker 1: puts points on the board fast, often and multiple time?
- 1:11:56Speaker 5: I get it. Under pressive on offense is my point.
- 1:12:01Speaker 1: Okay, just making sure, just making sure we're on the
- 1:12:03Speaker 1: same page. I love it.
- 1:12:04Speaker 5: No, I never fought the inferior team for playing low
- 1:12:07Speaker 5: possession ball control. I get that whole argument. That argument
- 1:12:12Speaker 5: is going to be You're not gonna win any meaningful games.
- 1:12:15Speaker 5: You might win that game like that is not a
- 1:12:17Speaker 5: recipe for winning over long sample sizes. My argument is,
- 1:12:21Speaker 5: if I'm Indianapolis and I'm Shane Staken, I'm not giving
- 1:12:24Speaker 5: the ball back to Mahomes. I don't care if they
- 1:12:26Speaker 5: had two points the whole game. We've seen Mahomes in
- 1:12:29Speaker 5: those moments kill people and just end their dreams and
- 1:12:33Speaker 5: go down and do what he did yesterday, regardless of
- 1:12:37Speaker 5: how the rest of the game goes on. But to
- 1:12:39Speaker 5: pretend that running forty one times for one hundred and
- 1:12:42Speaker 5: forty eight yards is a sustainable model for winning NFL
- 1:12:46Speaker 5: games over long periods of time. It's just not now
- 1:12:49Speaker 5: you want you want to show me a run game
- 1:12:51Speaker 5: that did matter yesterday jimior gibbs y seventeen times for
- 1:12:56Speaker 5: two hundred and something yards. That's a great run game. Yes,
- 1:13:00Speaker 5: that's a better run game than a passing game. Yes,
- 1:13:04Speaker 5: but he's averaging carry.
- 1:13:06Speaker 1: I agree with you. If we go back to the
- 1:13:08Speaker 1: Chiefs and the Colts, the thing that makes Andy Reid
- 1:13:10Speaker 1: so great is he evaluates not only the team he's
- 1:13:13Speaker 1: playing against, but the team he has, and he's like, Okay,
- 1:13:16Speaker 1: where does our best lineup against their best? If I'm
- 1:13:18Speaker 1: an offensive standpoint offense versus offense, it did not play well.
- 1:13:21Speaker 1: I don't disagree with you that running the ball forty
- 1:13:23Speaker 1: one times a game for three point six yards per
- 1:13:26Speaker 1: carry is a sustainable thing throughout the season. However, if
- 1:13:29Speaker 1: that is what it calls for to catch at w
- 1:13:31Speaker 1: then that's what you need to do. Now. If they
- 1:13:33Speaker 1: go and play the Raiders next week. If I'm the Chiefs,
- 1:13:36Speaker 1: I'm like, well, yeah, we don't need to run the Chiefs.
- 1:13:37Speaker 2: Chiefs got to go to Dallas next week.
- 1:13:39Speaker 1: Yeah. And if that's the case, if Chiefs have to
- 1:13:42Speaker 1: go to Dallas next week. I'm thinking, now we open
- 1:13:45Speaker 1: it up, because, yeah, the defense has played well for
- 1:13:47Speaker 1: the Cowboys the last couple of weeks, but our best
- 1:13:51Speaker 1: is better than their best, and so I trust Patrick
- 1:13:53Speaker 1: Mahomes ripping the ball down the field versus the Cowboys
- 1:13:56Speaker 1: defense as opposed to holding time and possession of those
- 1:13:58Speaker 1: sorts of things.
- 1:13:59Speaker 5: So I'm also and and do you think for as
- 1:14:02Speaker 5: good as Fags is and as good as the Chiefs
- 1:14:04Speaker 5: defense is, and I think they're really good, do you
- 1:14:07Speaker 5: think seventeen points is enough to beat the Dallas Cowboys?
- 1:14:10Speaker 1: No? No, No, I think it's a different football team.
- 1:14:15Speaker 1: You're playing a different football team.
- 1:14:16Speaker 5: Yeah, I get it.
- 1:14:18Speaker 3: I don't know.
- 1:14:19Speaker 5: I just you know, we heard this last night a
- 1:14:22Speaker 5: thousand times listening to the Rams game. It's like, man,
- 1:14:25Speaker 5: everyone's so worried about this Rams running game and this
- 1:14:28Speaker 5: passing attack. They had thirty one points at halftime and
- 1:14:31Speaker 5: they had twenty two yards rushing.
- 1:14:35Speaker 2: Yeah, Greg, that people are scoring.
- 1:14:38Speaker 5: All these points because of the running games.
- 1:14:40Speaker 1: Moving stupid, You're moving the goalpost on me. I'm saying,
- 1:14:44Speaker 1: what does the game call for? As a coach, and
- 1:14:46Speaker 1: in the Chiefs, the best way for them to win
- 1:14:49Speaker 1: was eat up to the possession, run the force, feed
- 1:14:52Speaker 1: the football, and then from a ground game perspective, because
- 1:14:55Speaker 1: for whatever reason, your receivers you don't have the ability
- 1:14:57Speaker 1: to push the ball from an X play standpoint on
- 1:15:00Speaker 1: the field and the offense on the other side of field.
- 1:15:02Speaker 1: They're number one in every major statistic, every category. So
- 1:15:06Speaker 1: you have to keep their offense off the field by
- 1:15:09Speaker 1: eating up time position. How do you do that? Run
- 1:15:11Speaker 1: the football forty one times?
- 1:15:12Speaker 5: No, I get that. Hence the original no, I agree
- 1:15:15Speaker 5: with what you're saying, so said goes back to what
- 1:15:19Speaker 5: I said about what Indianapolis did. You're Shane Stiken. You
- 1:15:23Speaker 5: have an opportunity for the knockout shot. You've got the
- 1:15:25Speaker 5: ball plus side, four minutes to go in the game.
- 1:15:29Speaker 5: Why give the ball back? Give your offense, this offense
- 1:15:33Speaker 5: that everyone's you know, you're saying is like so amazing
- 1:15:35Speaker 5: and they're the best in the league. Give them an
- 1:15:37Speaker 5: extra down to pick up the first down. And now
- 1:15:39Speaker 5: you come out of the game and you win whatever
- 1:15:43Speaker 5: to seventeen And what's the conversation is the conversation this
- 1:15:47Speaker 5: morning with Kansas City man that run game really did
- 1:15:50Speaker 5: no the conversation is their offense can't score any points.
- 1:15:53Speaker 1: Right, I'm with you, and I agree with the fourth
- 1:15:55Speaker 1: and fourth the colt all.
- 1:15:56Speaker 5: The bigger picture at play, Like that's my greater the
- 1:16:00Speaker 5: thing that I just continue to try to pound from
- 1:16:02Speaker 5: the rooftops because in the in the postseason, when all
- 1:16:08Speaker 5: the shitty teams are out and all the bad teams
- 1:16:10Speaker 5: are out, and it's only the good teams now, defense,
- 1:16:15Speaker 5: run game, ball control, turnover, battle field position. Yes, all
- 1:16:20Speaker 5: of that now has a much greater impact on the
- 1:16:23Speaker 5: outcome of the game because for the most part, you're
- 1:16:25Speaker 5: only left with the good teams in the regular season.
- 1:16:29Speaker 5: If you can't throw the ball consistently week in and
- 1:16:33Speaker 5: week out, you will not score enough points to win.
- 1:16:37Speaker 2: I agree, yeah, Greg too. It's you're like the recipe,
- 1:16:41Speaker 2: give them another down to go out there and get
- 1:16:43Speaker 2: a new set of downs, or if not, and the
- 1:16:45Speaker 2: Chiefs go down to score opportunity for a series.
- 1:16:48Speaker 1: Every every the league is doing.
- 1:16:52Speaker 5: It's with every good defense, Seahawks, the Eagles to a degree,
- 1:16:57Speaker 5: the Rams they're playing, Nickel and Dime are saying, I
- 1:17:00Speaker 5: want you to run the ball. Remember the question everyone
- 1:17:03Speaker 5: needs to ask themselves if you just take a step
- 1:17:05Speaker 5: back and say, okay, what's the easiest way to formulate this?
- 1:17:08Speaker 5: If you ask defensive coordinators, hey, you call the plays.
- 1:17:13Speaker 5: You now get to call the plays that you're going
- 1:17:15Speaker 5: to defend. What types of plays will defensive coordinators choose
- 1:17:20Speaker 5: to defend? Three and a half to four and a
- 1:17:23Speaker 5: half yard runs? That sounds amazing to every decordinator league.
- 1:17:28Speaker 5: They will sign up for forty of those tomorrow. So
- 1:17:32Speaker 5: why would you do it? What do they want you
- 1:17:36Speaker 5: to punt? They want you to kick a field goal
- 1:17:38Speaker 5: from fourth and goal to four? The question should be
- 1:17:42Speaker 5: what does the other side want me to do? I'm
- 1:17:44Speaker 5: going to do the opposite. Yet we continue to see
- 1:17:47Speaker 5: teams all across the league make decisions that are actually
- 1:17:52Speaker 5: in agreement with their opponent, what the opponent would choose
- 1:17:55Speaker 5: them to do for them, over and over and over again.
- 1:18:01Speaker 5: Love this ball and it's all emotion. It feels right,
- 1:18:04Speaker 5: it feels tough. I feel like I'm a tough team
- 1:18:07Speaker 5: because I can run. I feel tough because I can
- 1:18:09Speaker 5: defend the run. You're not gonna run the ball down
- 1:18:12Speaker 5: my throat. You're gonna score in two plays instead of ten.
- 1:18:16Speaker 5: That's what people like, it's just so stupid.
- 1:18:19Speaker 1: I'm with you on everything.
- 1:18:20Speaker 5: It's so it's so emotional and football people don't like
- 1:18:25Speaker 5: having their toughness question. And for twenty plus years we've
- 1:18:29Speaker 5: had it force fed down our throat, the value of
- 1:18:31Speaker 5: stopping the run and the and it's nonsense. I'm gonna
- 1:18:36Speaker 5: stop fifty yard runs. I'm gonna stop Jamiir Gibbs running
- 1:18:39Speaker 5: for two twenty on seventeen carries. Yes, I need to
- 1:18:42Speaker 5: stop that. I don't need to stop forty one for
- 1:18:45Speaker 5: one forty eight. That's great. Patrick Mahomes threw for three
- 1:18:50Speaker 5: hundred and fifty two yards.
- 1:18:54Speaker 2: I feel like he's yelling at us now.
- 1:18:55Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I'm not yelling at you, I think, but
- 1:19:00Speaker 1: that point, we're all on the same pitch. We're all
- 1:19:02Speaker 1: agreeing at this.
- 1:19:03Speaker 5: I love you. This is not you. I'm yelling this
- 1:19:05Speaker 5: to the ether. You guys, just give me the platform
- 1:19:07Speaker 5: to do this.
- 1:19:07Speaker 2: No, I love being in this position feeling like my
- 1:19:10Speaker 2: head ball coach is talking to me and really giving
- 1:19:12Speaker 2: me a life lesson.
- 1:19:13Speaker 1: Best ball coaches, there might be a million people in
- 1:19:16Speaker 1: the room. If he makes it feel like he's just
- 1:19:17Speaker 1: talking to you, that's a good ball.
- 1:19:18Speaker 2: Cut like great, Yeah, Greg, Greg is right, But I'm
- 1:19:21Speaker 2: still going to walk off this bus saying we need
- 1:19:23Speaker 2: to stop the run this week, Like I'm still gonna
- 1:19:28Speaker 2: do it knowing that he is right. And I also
- 1:19:30Speaker 2: enjoy a nice lie. I enjoy a nice little take
- 1:19:33Speaker 2: the points prase phrase. I won't like Greg. I like
- 1:19:35Speaker 2: a little take the points phrase.
- 1:19:36Speaker 5: Yeah, but you know that position to take the pot
- 1:19:39Speaker 5: Dallas twenty one, twenty one chance to kick the field
- 1:19:41Speaker 5: goal at the I don't know what was it, the
- 1:19:44Speaker 5: five four? Where were they when they kicked it? When
- 1:19:46Speaker 5: they decided to go for it?
- 1:19:47Speaker 2: I wanted him to take the points.
- 1:19:50Speaker 1: Will is always gonna take points.
- 1:19:52Speaker 2: Not always.
- 1:19:53Speaker 5: There's a lot of yard line.
- 1:19:54Speaker 2: There's a lot of situation. Yeah, they were like inside
- 1:19:56Speaker 2: the five because Ceedee lianmb dropped that ball in the
- 1:19:58Speaker 2: end zone.
- 1:19:58Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb was killing himself that I know.
- 1:20:00Speaker 2: At first he was mad at Dak and then inside
- 1:20:02Speaker 2: coming realization I got to catch that football. Yeah, I
- 1:20:05Speaker 2: was just thinking the CD Lamb Ceedee Lamb Eagles moment.
- 1:20:08Speaker 5: It was fourth and goal at the six.
- 1:20:11Speaker 2: What are you doing there? Greg?
- 1:20:14Speaker 5: Take the points? Oh no, I'm sorry. That was the
- 1:20:16Speaker 5: Giants game. Hold on, we're talking. So Giants had fourth
- 1:20:19Speaker 5: and goal at the six. That's a different animal. Hold on,
- 1:20:23Speaker 5: let me do cowboys what. I want to know what
- 1:20:25Speaker 5: yard line they were on. I know it was goal
- 1:20:28Speaker 5: to go. I just don't know what yard line it
- 1:20:30Speaker 5: was on. They were on the oh, fourth and goal
- 1:20:35Speaker 5: at the one?
- 1:20:37Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, you gotta go.
- 1:20:38Speaker 2: Was it the one?
- 1:20:38Speaker 1: I even a question, you have to go?
- 1:20:40Speaker 2: Was it the one?
- 1:20:42Speaker 1: I'm going off what Greg just said.
- 1:20:44Speaker 5: It was fourth and goal? So they were first and goal.
- 1:20:49Speaker 5: Here's what the sequence was. First and goal at the eight,
- 1:20:51Speaker 5: positive six yard gun game, second and goal at the two,
- 1:20:57Speaker 5: one yard run, third and goal at the one, incomplete,
- 1:21:01Speaker 5: fourth and goal to one incomplete.
- 1:21:03Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you have to go for it.
- 1:21:07Speaker 1: If you were a fourth one.
- 1:21:08Speaker 2: That's one. That's why I'm checking the ESPN app and
- 1:21:11Speaker 2: seeing that's you know, they're they're they're in goal line.
- 1:21:13Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my, I'm like grin and text and clump,
- 1:21:15Speaker 2: get the clip ready, get the clip right. We're getting
- 1:21:17Speaker 2: the kids in the car, and then I open it
- 1:21:18Speaker 2: up and so I see that they turn the ball over.
- 1:21:20Speaker 2: I'm like, what the just happened? Right now?
- 1:21:22Speaker 1: What I think what yard line are you kicking? The three.
- 1:21:28Speaker 5: Goal to go situation? So remember now the new field goal,
- 1:21:31Speaker 5: the new extra point is sorry, the new kickoff rule
- 1:21:35Speaker 5: is a huge factor here. So I'm at the one
- 1:21:38Speaker 5: yard line. Let's say I'm at the five yard line.
- 1:21:40Speaker 5: Anything inside the five yard line just for this conversation,
- 1:21:44Speaker 5: and I fail, right, that's worst case scenarios. I don't
- 1:21:47Speaker 5: score seven points, all right, Right, But if I kicked
- 1:21:51Speaker 5: the field goal, I got three points. For those three points,
- 1:21:55Speaker 5: I took a three point lead. But instead of you
- 1:21:57Speaker 5: now possessing the ball, mynus five to minus one having
- 1:22:03Speaker 5: to go the long way to either tie me or
- 1:22:05Speaker 5: beat me, I kick off to you. And let's say
- 1:22:08Speaker 5: you get the ball between the thirty and the thirty
- 1:22:10Speaker 5: five yard line. I've given you thirty yards maybe thirty
- 1:22:15Speaker 5: three yards depending on the down, thirty to thirty five
- 1:22:18Speaker 5: yards of field position for three points, and you only
- 1:22:22Speaker 5: now need to get two first downs and you just
- 1:22:24Speaker 5: get your three points right back, Yep, when you have
- 1:22:27Speaker 5: the ball on the minus one, even though you possess
- 1:22:31Speaker 5: the ball, I on defense actually have higher probability of
- 1:22:35Speaker 5: scoring the next point than you do. Even if I
- 1:22:38Speaker 5: don't have the ball. That's how advantageous it is to
- 1:22:42Speaker 5: not take three points and then go do a kickoff.
- 1:22:45Speaker 5: If this was twenty years ago and I'd kick a
- 1:22:47Speaker 5: touch back and give you the ball to twenty, it's
- 1:22:50Speaker 5: a different math equation. It's a whole different animal. But
- 1:22:52Speaker 5: with the ball now being at the thirty five and
- 1:22:54Speaker 5: kickers being sixty plus pretty regularly, your two first downs
- 1:22:58Speaker 5: from just kicking it in time, and we're all back
- 1:23:01Speaker 5: to square anyway, right and now you're gonna so what
- 1:23:03Speaker 5: did they do? They fail? They the Eagles pick up
- 1:23:07Speaker 5: a couple first downs, they eventually fail, give the ball
- 1:23:11Speaker 5: back now to the Cowboys. And what did they do?
- 1:23:14Speaker 5: They win in regulation. The goal is to win in regulation.
- 1:23:18Speaker 5: It's not to play for a tie. It's not to
- 1:23:20Speaker 5: play for overtime. And it worked out exactly right.
- 1:23:25Speaker 1: Now as it takes a points. Guy, are you agree
- 1:23:27Speaker 1: with because everything.
- 1:23:29Speaker 2: On the one yard line?
- 1:23:30Speaker 1: What about fourth and five?
- 1:23:31Speaker 2: Fourth and five, I'm taking the points fourth and everything
- 1:23:34Speaker 2: he just said, after everything he just said in that
- 1:23:37Speaker 2: game situation, because again, the way Dallas came out after
- 1:23:40Speaker 2: they scored the twenty one, like Dallas' defense was playing
- 1:23:43Speaker 2: on fire, like he was three and out, three and out,
- 1:23:45Speaker 2: or they might get five players or punting the ball.
- 1:23:47Speaker 2: It's like punt, punt, punt, missfield goal, fumble, like the
- 1:23:50Speaker 2: way Dallas was playing defensively, the way that they had
- 1:23:53Speaker 2: the momentum and control of that game. You go up three,
- 1:23:55Speaker 2: it's twenty four to twenty one. Again, we're talking about
- 1:23:57Speaker 2: fourth and five. I'm taking the points. That's where I'm
- 1:23:59Speaker 2: taking the points because you're you're now you're you're not winning.
- 1:24:02Speaker 2: You're not winning the game about.
- 1:24:04Speaker 5: You ask yourself this. You take the field, and the
- 1:24:08Speaker 5: offenses take is in the huddle. They're in their own
- 1:24:12Speaker 5: end zone because the ball is about to be snapped
- 1:24:15Speaker 5: from the five versus you take the field after either
- 1:24:18Speaker 5: a kickoff return or a touchback, whatever you want it
- 1:24:20Speaker 5: to be. God forbid, you don't hit the landing zone
- 1:24:22Speaker 5: and the ball is at the forty. Let's just say
- 1:24:24Speaker 5: everything goes according to plan and the balls somewhere between
- 1:24:27Speaker 5: the thirty and the thirty five, So we're talking twenty
- 1:24:29Speaker 5: five to thirty yard of starting field position difference. You
- 1:24:34Speaker 5: take the field for it must stop. You cannot give
- 1:24:38Speaker 5: up any points. Where are you more comfortable the offense
- 1:24:41Speaker 5: starting at the five or the thirty five.
- 1:24:44Speaker 1: The five and listen like when an offense gra You
- 1:24:48Speaker 1: can attest this when the offense is backed up like
- 1:24:51Speaker 1: fifty the ten yard line and back the minus ten
- 1:24:54Speaker 1: and back. The goal of the offense is not to
- 1:24:57Speaker 1: score points there. The goal of the offense is give
- 1:24:59Speaker 1: the pun enough room to punt if you're back to
- 1:25:02Speaker 1: get a first down. That is the goal because then
- 1:25:04Speaker 1: now you're thinking field position. You're not thinking as an offense.
- 1:25:09Speaker 2: Out of the gate.
- 1:25:10Speaker 1: After that, they had a first down right out of
- 1:25:12Speaker 1: the gate, but they got another first down then they failed.
- 1:25:15Speaker 5: All right, so stick with me here. Okay, this is
- 1:25:18Speaker 5: the second layer besides field position. When you take a
- 1:25:23Speaker 5: three point lead. There there was how much time left
- 1:25:27Speaker 5: there was They got the ball back with like three thirty.
- 1:25:32Speaker 5: The Philly possessed the ball after the failed fourth down
- 1:25:34Speaker 5: with like three thirty on the clock in the fourth quarter,
- 1:25:38Speaker 5: they pick up a first down. They pick up a
- 1:25:39Speaker 5: first down right above the two minute warning. Especially based
- 1:25:45Speaker 5: on timeouts, you're in four down territory. So by being tied,
- 1:25:50Speaker 5: you are never now as an offense in four down
- 1:25:52Speaker 5: territory until you cross midfield. But all of a sudden
- 1:25:55Speaker 5: I take a three point lead by kicking a chip
- 1:25:57Speaker 5: shot field goal. I kick you the ball. You get
- 1:26:00Speaker 5: it now at the thirty or to thirty five, depending
- 1:26:02Speaker 5: on the outcome of the kickoff. The entire time you
- 1:26:05Speaker 5: possess the ball will the entire time I possess the ball.
- 1:26:08Speaker 5: You've got to defend four downs. Because I'm losing, I
- 1:26:12Speaker 5: can't punt it back to you. The game's over. So
- 1:26:14Speaker 5: I'm in four down mode until I get in field
- 1:26:16Speaker 5: goal range. Because you kick the field goal, your odds
- 1:26:20Speaker 5: of going to overtime and it just it changes. Because
- 1:26:24Speaker 5: I got to defend a field goal. Try four down
- 1:26:27Speaker 5: territory from the thirty five yard line. That's pretty easy.
- 1:26:31Speaker 5: You get the ball to minus five. What's Philly saying, Hey,
- 1:26:35Speaker 5: either we win the game, but we can't give the
- 1:26:38Speaker 5: ball back to Dallas because we don't want to lose
- 1:26:40Speaker 5: in overtime in regulation either. So you're not in four
- 1:26:43Speaker 5: down mode. Your calls are a little bit more conservative.
- 1:26:46Speaker 5: You're saying, Hey, let's take it easy, let's get a
- 1:26:48Speaker 5: couple first downs, get to the two minute warning, and
- 1:26:51Speaker 5: then when we get around midfield, we'll go aggressive and
- 1:26:53Speaker 5: we'll try to win this thing in regulation, but let's
- 1:26:55Speaker 5: make it a walk off. They punt on fourth down.
- 1:26:58Speaker 5: They take back to back penalties, so they punt on
- 1:27:00Speaker 5: fourth down because it's not four down mode. You're not
- 1:27:03Speaker 5: in must go mode. Because I'm now as an offense,
- 1:27:06Speaker 5: I'm playing for overtime, and my ability to take chances
- 1:27:11Speaker 5: is significantly less than it was if I was trailing
- 1:27:14Speaker 5: by three. So it's thirty yards of field position and
- 1:27:18Speaker 5: you don't have to defend fourth down.
- 1:27:21Speaker 1: This conversation is not a fast conversation.
- 1:27:24Speaker 2: Well it was because we just had a We just
- 1:27:26Speaker 2: had a conversation. Huh, he says, not even a conversation.
- 1:27:29Speaker 2: I'm just saying, we just had a conversation. You Creig
- 1:27:33Speaker 2: just talked to Greg. Just broke that down for me
- 1:27:35Speaker 2: in such football terms. And now I'm like, okay, I
- 1:27:38Speaker 2: can you gotta go for it on fourth and five
- 1:27:40Speaker 2: on the goal line.
- 1:27:41Speaker 1: And that is big by you. That's big by you
- 1:27:43Speaker 1: because you're a big stand in the batter's box guy,
- 1:27:45Speaker 1: and if I'm in this batter box, I'm staying in
- 1:27:47Speaker 1: this batter box. Jeeves. That for Greg to break that
- 1:27:50Speaker 1: down in the way for you to go, I understand
- 1:27:52Speaker 1: that's huge. It's growth.
- 1:27:53Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's I'll very much be dig my heels
- 1:27:56Speaker 2: in the ground, especially when people just throw the term
- 1:27:58Speaker 2: analytics and you know that's what the analytics say. But
- 1:28:01Speaker 2: the way Greg just broke that down for me in
- 1:28:03Speaker 2: football terms, the way the feeling, the momentum shifts, the
- 1:28:06Speaker 2: way the game's getting called, the way you're thinking this
- 1:28:08Speaker 2: and in every situation. I just started to wrap my brain.
- 1:28:11Speaker 2: I want to I want to get out a notebook
- 1:28:13Speaker 2: in a pin. I want to call Greg after this
- 1:28:15Speaker 2: phone call and get in a real meeting and take notes.
- 1:28:17Speaker 2: Eat better today. That was that's right. We can talk ball.
- 1:28:19Speaker 5: We could talk ball all day. We had two teams
- 1:28:22Speaker 5: yesterday up three at the end of the game, Giants
- 1:28:25Speaker 5: being one. I can't remember the other one up three,
- 1:28:28Speaker 5: go for it on fourth down because you don't want
- 1:28:30Speaker 5: to be up six, and it like blows people's minds.
- 1:28:34Speaker 2: Say that again. Say that situation again.
- 1:28:36Speaker 5: So you have the ball, say it's say it's the
- 1:28:38Speaker 5: same situation that. Let's just take the Philly Dallas game,
- 1:28:41Speaker 5: because we were talking about it Philly Dallas game, but
- 1:28:43Speaker 5: instead of that game being tied, say it's fourth and
- 1:28:46Speaker 5: goal at the one and and Dallas is winning by
- 1:28:50Speaker 5: three at the time of the fourth down, so they
- 1:28:52Speaker 5: could kick a field goal to go up six or
- 1:28:55Speaker 5: try to score a touchdown to go up ten.
- 1:28:59Speaker 2: Okay, following, what are you doing?
- 1:29:01Speaker 1: Go you go for the touchdown?
- 1:29:03Speaker 5: Of course?
- 1:29:04Speaker 2: Yeah, there, I feel much more comfortable going for the
- 1:29:06Speaker 2: touchdown because again they need a field goal just to
- 1:29:08Speaker 2: tie you.
- 1:29:09Speaker 1: Because a all the things you just said, Greg. If
- 1:29:11Speaker 1: you go when you take the three and now you
- 1:29:13Speaker 1: have six, now you're still in a goal to go situation,
- 1:29:16Speaker 1: and they know they have to get If they score,
- 1:29:18Speaker 1: it's over, they win the game.
- 1:29:20Speaker 2: You're not putting.
- 1:29:20Speaker 1: You're not putting the game away.
- 1:29:22Speaker 5: So you have to get better off than you are six.
- 1:29:25Speaker 1: Right, because now their mind goes to tie, not to win.
- 1:29:28Speaker 5: Correct.
- 1:29:29Speaker 1: That's this is This has been my favorite conversation I've
- 1:29:33Speaker 1: had with you breaking that down because I didn't know
- 1:29:37Speaker 1: that with the kickoff rules, how much that's changed everything.
- 1:29:40Speaker 5: I think the kickoff rule has been so good. Yes,
- 1:29:44Speaker 5: there's more returns. A bunch have been returned. What is
- 1:29:46Speaker 5: there like four that have been returned for touchdowns three
- 1:29:49Speaker 5: something like that. There's been a couple, you know, the
- 1:29:52Speaker 5: end of the game last week Minnesota, who is it? Minnesota? Chicago? Yeah, Minnesota, Chicago,
- 1:29:59Speaker 5: minut SODA's winning. They kick off, Chicago, returns the ball
- 1:30:02Speaker 5: back to the plus side of the field and ends
- 1:30:05Speaker 5: up kicking the field goal to win in the last
- 1:30:07Speaker 5: thirty seconds of the game. Like the game, it has
- 1:30:09Speaker 5: brought more impactful plays. I think the biggest role that
- 1:30:12Speaker 5: it's had is it is changing how people treat the
- 1:30:16Speaker 5: end of offensive possessions because kicking off is now no
- 1:30:21Speaker 5: longer a formality. It's no longer kicking through the uprights
- 1:30:25Speaker 5: and you get the ball. You know, it was the twenty,
- 1:30:27Speaker 5: then the twenty five, then the thirty, and now it's
- 1:30:29Speaker 5: the thirty five. And if I don't kick it in
- 1:30:31Speaker 5: the landing zone, it's the forty. And it just keeps
- 1:30:33Speaker 5: getting closer and closer to midfield, where the advantage of
- 1:30:37Speaker 5: kicking off is after a field goal is not what
- 1:30:40Speaker 5: it used to be, right, Yeah, you know, but now
- 1:30:45Speaker 5: you're seeing all these long field goals. Obviously that's a
- 1:30:47Speaker 5: huge weapon. Short chip shot field goals to then get
- 1:30:51Speaker 5: your opponent for three points, to let your opponent get
- 1:30:54Speaker 5: out of the shadow of their goalpost, to possess the
- 1:30:56Speaker 5: ball at the minus thirty five as opposed to inside
- 1:30:58Speaker 5: their own ten. I would just argue, over the course
- 1:31:02Speaker 5: of the season, it's just not worth to give up
- 1:31:04Speaker 5: that field position for field goals, which we all know
- 1:31:07Speaker 5: field goals are going to get your beat.
- 1:31:09Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it's going to take a few more of
- 1:31:12Speaker 2: these episodes, but then there'll be a situation that comes
- 1:31:14Speaker 2: up to ward. Now you guys, it all comes back
- 1:31:17Speaker 2: to that run pass pass game. Delim me you and
- 1:31:19Speaker 2: gregor in right now, right.
- 1:31:22Speaker 1: I think Greg and I are saying similar things about
- 1:31:26Speaker 1: the run game. We're just looking at it with a
- 1:31:27Speaker 1: different lens.
- 1:31:28Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you run the field is effective about Yeah?
- 1:31:33Speaker 1: I think it all depends. It's strategic on the team
- 1:31:35Speaker 1: you're playing and what puts us in the best position
- 1:31:38Speaker 1: to win the game. For the Chiefs, the best position
- 1:31:39Speaker 1: to win is keeping their offense off the field, which
- 1:31:41Speaker 1: is a very unique and uncomfortable situation for the Chiefs
- 1:31:44Speaker 1: have been in because they're always the team that you
- 1:31:46Speaker 1: want to keep their offense off of the field. Obviously,
- 1:31:49Speaker 1: I love to be in the Lion situation where you
- 1:31:51Speaker 1: run the ball seventeen times for two hund dards a game.
- 1:31:54Speaker 1: But if you have a team that can effectively run
- 1:31:56Speaker 1: the football, which is more than three point six even
- 1:31:59Speaker 1: for you arts per carry. If you have a team
- 1:32:01Speaker 1: that can run the football effectively in a winning way
- 1:32:04Speaker 1: and also throw the ball, that is a complete offense
- 1:32:08Speaker 1: as opposed to we can beat you with our X plays,
- 1:32:11Speaker 1: because there's I think there's more ways to defend the
- 1:32:13Speaker 1: X place than a team that you also have to
- 1:32:15Speaker 1: worry about an explosive run game with the Lions if you.
- 1:32:19Speaker 5: Can't pop the big one going down the field play
- 1:32:24Speaker 5: after play after play after play of a run style offense.
- 1:32:29Speaker 5: It is very easy to run the ball between the thirties,
- 1:32:32Speaker 5: as you and Taylor you obviously know this better than anyone.
- 1:32:35Speaker 5: As you cross your opponent's thirty yard line and you
- 1:32:38Speaker 5: get into like high red and then obviously into red
- 1:32:40Speaker 5: low red, all that, it becomes increasingly more difficult to
- 1:32:45Speaker 5: run the ball because the field shrinks right, so there's
- 1:32:48Speaker 5: not as much depth, there's not as much grass to cover,
- 1:32:51Speaker 5: there's not as much ability to throw the ball over
- 1:32:52Speaker 5: my head to back me up to run the ball.
- 1:32:55Speaker 5: But in between the thirties, I'm like, I'm not going
- 1:32:57Speaker 5: to give up a seventy yard touchdown, So it's a
- 1:33:00Speaker 5: little bit easier to run the ball. There's more space,
- 1:33:03Speaker 5: there's more gaps in the defense and whatnot as you
- 1:33:07Speaker 5: get closer to the end zone. If you can't throw
- 1:33:10Speaker 5: the ball, my space is now progressively getting smaller and
- 1:33:16Speaker 5: smaller as I approached the goal line. So I'm making
- 1:33:19Speaker 5: I'm entering an area of the field where what I'm
- 1:33:21Speaker 5: doing to get here becomes progressively more difficult, which is
- 1:33:24Speaker 5: why throwing the ball ends up scoring more points unless
- 1:33:28Speaker 5: I can score from the forty right. If I can
- 1:33:31Speaker 5: score from the forty or the fifty yard line, it
- 1:33:33Speaker 5: doesn't matter what yard line I snapped it from. That's
- 1:33:35Speaker 5: obviously a great play, but to go So I did
- 1:33:39Speaker 5: the green Bay game yesterday. Right opening drive of the game,
- 1:33:42Speaker 5: the first green Bay possession, they go down, second down pass,
- 1:33:46Speaker 5: really overwhelm touchdown. The rest of the game, they ran
- 1:33:50Speaker 5: the ball great. Emmanuel Wilson was a dog. He was
- 1:33:53Speaker 5: running through the vikings. They couldn't stop them. They scored
- 1:33:57Speaker 5: a touchdown drive on their first drive, first possession of
- 1:34:00Speaker 5: the game. They had three offensive possessions in the first half,
- 1:34:05Speaker 5: and in the second half they ran it down their
- 1:34:07Speaker 5: throat field goal down their throat field goal. The only
- 1:34:12Speaker 5: other touchdown that green Bay scored in a game that
- 1:34:14Speaker 5: they dominated, the only other touchdown they scored other than
- 1:34:19Speaker 5: their opening possession touchdown drive was the guy on the
- 1:34:23Speaker 5: Vikings went to block a punt that bounced at the five.
- 1:34:26Speaker 5: He went to block the gunner, the ball bounced and
- 1:34:29Speaker 5: hit him in the foot, and Green Bay recovered the
- 1:34:33Speaker 5: ball like inside of the Minnesota's five yard line and
- 1:34:37Speaker 5: just handed it off for a touchdown. Right, So they
- 1:34:39Speaker 5: dominated the game. They ran it up and down the field.
- 1:34:44Speaker 5: You can't score touchdowns.
- 1:34:45Speaker 1: Yeah, because it condenses the field once you get over
- 1:34:47Speaker 1: the thirty. Another thing to your point, too, is when
- 1:34:50Speaker 1: you're watching the Chiefs and the Colts play, when the
- 1:34:53Speaker 1: Chiefs are running the ball as much as they're running
- 1:34:55Speaker 1: the ball at no point as the viewer, as the
- 1:34:57Speaker 1: Colts as a fan, are you thinking, man, the Chiefs
- 1:35:01Speaker 1: are real close to breaking one right now on the ground.
- 1:35:03Speaker 1: You never think that to me? It was it was
- 1:35:06Speaker 1: a sixty minute chess play. Yeah, it was a sixty
- 1:35:08Speaker 1: minute game of chess, would you yeah, I mean, obviously
- 1:35:12Speaker 1: you have to throw the ball to you get more points.
- 1:35:15Speaker 5: I agree with the longest run. They had an eighteen
- 1:35:18Speaker 5: yard run. They had a third. So Kareem Hunt had
- 1:35:20Speaker 5: thirty thirty carries, he had an eighteen yard run. His
- 1:35:24Speaker 5: average was three and a half yards to carry.
- 1:35:28Speaker 1: Chess, If you asked, there's not a winning formula, but
- 1:35:32Speaker 1: it is for that day.
- 1:35:32Speaker 5: If you asked, Lou, oh God, I always mispronounced his
- 1:35:35Speaker 5: last name, the decordinator who is in Cincinnati, who's now
- 1:35:40Speaker 5: miss Anoma Lou.
- 1:35:42Speaker 1: And a room metal Louo and a room.
- 1:35:45Speaker 5: That's what, okay, I want to disrespect He's a great coach.
- 1:35:47Speaker 5: I don't want to disrespect by mints pronouncing his name.
- 1:35:50Speaker 5: If you asked him, do you want Kareem Hunt to
- 1:35:53Speaker 5: run the ball thirty times for three yards to carry?
- 1:35:57Speaker 5: Or Patrick Mahomes have the ball in his hands regardless
- 1:36:01Speaker 5: of how good the passing game is, And would you rap?
- 1:36:03Speaker 5: Which would you pick?
- 1:36:06Speaker 2: Run the ball that thirty carries?
- 1:36:07Speaker 5: Of course you would. And that's why offenses are doing
- 1:36:11Speaker 5: what defenses want them to do, which I think is
- 1:36:13Speaker 5: a dangerous game.
- 1:36:17Speaker 2: Fascinating boys. Do we have any other we have any
- 1:36:19Speaker 2: other convos with with Greg?
- 1:36:23Speaker 1: What's your guys' offseason training look like right now with
- 1:36:25Speaker 1: the kids.
- 1:36:25Speaker 5: I'm glad you asked. We got like twenty. We got
- 1:36:30Speaker 5: a good group. I'd say give any day twenty kids,
- 1:36:33Speaker 5: seventh and eighth graders. Groups kind of shrinking, you know,
- 1:36:36Speaker 5: some kids are playing winter sports, some kids you know,
- 1:36:38Speaker 5: so there's a little kind of fluctuation of who. But
- 1:36:42Speaker 5: give or take fifteen to twenty kids Monday through Thursday,
- 1:36:45Speaker 5: six thirty before school, weight room, shred, mill, track, all
- 1:36:50Speaker 5: sorts of four days a week training six thirty to
- 1:36:52Speaker 5: seven fifteen. Our kids are grinded.
- 1:36:54Speaker 2: We got them in a hyperturep fhe mode. You're really
- 1:36:57Speaker 2: breaking them down, so that way you can build some
- 1:36:58Speaker 2: muscle mass.
- 1:37:00Speaker 5: That will I like that. Yeah, dude, there, I don't
- 1:37:03Speaker 5: go to the workouts. We have a really good strength
- 1:37:05Speaker 5: and conditioning coach at school who he handles it. So
- 1:37:07Speaker 5: I just dropped the kids off and let them go
- 1:37:10Speaker 5: do their thing. But dude, forty five minutes a day
- 1:37:13Speaker 5: for thirteen fourteen year old kids, four days a week,
- 1:37:16Speaker 5: It's amazing how much they can get done. It's amazing
- 1:37:19Speaker 5: how much they can learn. And it's not even about
- 1:37:21Speaker 5: like how much weights on the bar, how much weight
- 1:37:23Speaker 5: it's just learning how to be in the weight room,
- 1:37:25Speaker 5: learning how to load the rack, learning how to be
- 1:37:27Speaker 5: on time, learning how to go through a warm up,
- 1:37:29Speaker 5: learning how to like There's so many lessons that are
- 1:37:32Speaker 5: built in a weight room that have nothing to do
- 1:37:34Speaker 5: with how much I can bench press or backsquad. That
- 1:37:37Speaker 5: for these seventh and eighth graders to get an early
- 1:37:40Speaker 5: kind of look at what that looks like, it's such.
- 1:37:42Speaker 5: This is the first year we've ever done it. We
- 1:37:44Speaker 5: don't typically start our football workouts until the spring, so
- 1:37:48Speaker 5: for our kids to start this and go all winter,
- 1:37:50Speaker 5: then we'll take the holidays off and then come back
- 1:37:52Speaker 5: for the start of the second semester and go through
- 1:37:55Speaker 5: you know, late winter, early spring. I think it's going
- 1:37:57Speaker 5: to pay off as we get rolling for next year, to.
- 1:38:00Speaker 2: Jump on the opponent. How's yer man? Yeah, to tell
- 1:38:04Speaker 2: them from the ground up, what's your boy pushing these days?
- 1:38:06Speaker 2: What is he got on the rack? Right now? We're
- 1:38:09Speaker 2: we talking here, we got we got one thirty five
- 1:38:11Speaker 2: on the bar.
- 1:38:11Speaker 5: Yet, you know what, I'm not sure I think which
- 1:38:14Speaker 5: I agree with, I'm not sure if they've ever done
- 1:38:16Speaker 5: straight bar bench. I think all their very smart, prone
- 1:38:20Speaker 5: pressing type exercises. I believe they're all using dumbbell, kettlebell,
- 1:38:24Speaker 5: smart smart. I could be wrong on that. When they
- 1:38:27Speaker 5: get home from school, well they're not in school today.
- 1:38:29Speaker 5: When they get home, when they go back again, I'm
- 1:38:31Speaker 5: gonna ask him. But I don't think they do straight
- 1:38:35Speaker 5: bar bench. But I have to ask them. I believe
- 1:38:37Speaker 5: it's all dumbbell.
- 1:38:38Speaker 2: Yeah. Boys, you boys doing some eccentric work in that
- 1:38:41Speaker 2: weight room right now in the wintertime.
- 1:38:45Speaker 5: And everything in your body is just shaky. Yeah, is
- 1:38:49Speaker 5: there anything worse? And I think this is why I
- 1:38:53Speaker 5: haven't gotten back into training. Like every week driving home
- 1:38:56Speaker 5: on the plane after I eat like Mike and Ikes
- 1:38:58Speaker 5: and I drink soda in the booth and I've eaten
- 1:39:00Speaker 5: a great steak dinner and I feel fat. I'm like Monday,
- 1:39:03Speaker 5: I'm getting back to training. I got a gym in
- 1:39:05Speaker 5: my basement, Like I'm gonna start getting back in shape.
- 1:39:08Speaker 5: I think I have like PTSD. Remember like in end
- 1:39:12Speaker 5: of February early March, when you started getting back into
- 1:39:15Speaker 5: like your own workouts before you know, you knew you
- 1:39:17Speaker 5: had a couple of weeks before OTAs, and you're just
- 1:39:18Speaker 5: gonna get back going those first couple of weeks felt
- 1:39:21Speaker 5: like you've never worked out in your You feel like
- 1:39:24Speaker 5: you're gonna throw up, it's cold, your chest is burning you,
- 1:39:28Speaker 5: and you're like, I'm never gonna get back. I think
- 1:39:30Speaker 5: I had that like burned into my brain. I fear
- 1:39:34Speaker 5: the first workout now picture, I haven't done a shit
- 1:39:36Speaker 5: in five years. That first workout. The fear of what
- 1:39:40Speaker 5: I'm gonna feel like has prevented me from getting back
- 1:39:43Speaker 5: in the weight room. But like that shit is real
- 1:39:46Speaker 5: now dog.
- 1:39:46Speaker 1: The first winter workout after you come back from Christmas break.
- 1:39:49Speaker 1: Let's say you don't make a bowl game, and you're
- 1:39:51Speaker 1: back from Christmas break, You've taken the week off, you've
- 1:39:53Speaker 1: eaten like shit, and you have a six am and
- 1:39:56Speaker 1: you walk out and the indoor has cones and and
- 1:40:00Speaker 1: towels and tires everywhere, and you like, you don't know
- 1:40:05Speaker 1: exactly what's about to happen, but you know you're about
- 1:40:07Speaker 1: to get your ship pushed in. There's not a bigger
- 1:40:10Speaker 1: anxiety in the world than that moment right there, and
- 1:40:14Speaker 1: just and God forbid, you're the second group, Like you're
- 1:40:17Speaker 1: watching the boys come in and there's always that there's
- 1:40:20Speaker 1: the tackle who's on the ground laying like there's a
- 1:40:23Speaker 1: couple of trainers around them, like we gotta pull them down,
- 1:40:25Speaker 1: and you're just like, oh my god.
- 1:40:27Speaker 2: There's a puk on the turf, and somebody that's kind
- 1:40:29Speaker 2: of like a leader walks by you and like, hey,
- 1:40:30Speaker 2: good luck with that one, are you? Yeah?
- 1:40:33Speaker 5: Hey? How was it? Hey?
- 1:40:33Speaker 2: How was it?
- 1:40:34Speaker 5: It's like when you walk into that like social studies test,
- 1:40:37Speaker 5: but you have an eighth period and everyone before he's like,
- 1:40:39Speaker 5: it's the worst test I've ever taken. You don't know
- 1:40:42Speaker 5: anxiety until you go to a six a m. College
- 1:40:46Speaker 5: football workout and the unknown of not only what the
- 1:40:50Speaker 5: workout's gonna be, how hard is it gonna be? How
- 1:40:53Speaker 5: much am I gonna get yelled at? But like am
- 1:40:55Speaker 5: I gonna die? That's like is this the end of
- 1:40:58Speaker 5: my life? In this moment, I'm scar Like that anxiety
- 1:41:03Speaker 5: I still carry with me today. Hence why I don't
- 1:41:05Speaker 5: like walk into my basement and go do a workout.
- 1:41:07Speaker 5: I want to do workouts. I don't want to do
- 1:41:09Speaker 5: the first workout.
- 1:41:11Speaker 1: Yeah that's dude, And you are like, God forbid, you
- 1:41:14Speaker 1: do lower body after a couple of weeks off, and
- 1:41:16Speaker 1: you go to sit on the toilet two days later.
- 1:41:19Speaker 1: It's like I might never I might never move again. Dude.
- 1:41:22Speaker 1: My first couple of years at Michigan, I did not
- 1:41:25Speaker 1: like I was in a position where you could choose
- 1:41:26Speaker 1: when you work out. Like, if it was up to me,
- 1:41:28Speaker 1: I'd like to go as early as possible, be the
- 1:41:30Speaker 1: first one in so I can get it done. But
- 1:41:32Speaker 1: when I was like a freshman sophomore, I would sit
- 1:41:34Speaker 1: there and be like, hey, you're the eight o'clock group.
- 1:41:36Speaker 1: They'll be like a six seven eight o'clock group. I
- 1:41:38Speaker 1: would get there two hours before and watch the workout
- 1:41:42Speaker 1: to mentally prepare what was what to happen to my body. Yeah,
- 1:41:45Speaker 1: because the thought of sleeping and being there thirty minutes
- 1:41:47Speaker 1: before and not knowing was worse than just watching people
- 1:41:51Speaker 1: die in front of me and be like, Okay, I
- 1:41:52Speaker 1: can handle this. I can handle that. That's gonna be
- 1:41:54Speaker 1: the hard part. I had to get past that. That's
- 1:41:56Speaker 1: the part to get past, buddy.
- 1:41:57Speaker 2: It's terrifying, Like is this an exercise that I put
- 1:42:00Speaker 2: you know eighty percent? Can I get by this one?
- 1:42:02Speaker 2: Or the guys you're gonna look me in the eye,
- 1:42:03Speaker 2: they're gonna know I'm not giving it my all. If
- 1:42:05Speaker 2: I give it my all, is this the day where
- 1:42:06Speaker 2: I like, look at I'm like, I can't do this anymore.
- 1:42:09Speaker 1: Because when you get older too, Yeah. Good.
- 1:42:12Speaker 5: The thing you guys had was it was cold. Yeah, yeah,
- 1:42:16Speaker 5: I think that makes it even worse.
- 1:42:18Speaker 2: It's more just the psychology like of a getting dark
- 1:42:22Speaker 2: sooner at being cold and like you're just so cozy
- 1:42:25Speaker 2: in your bed when you wake up in the morning,
- 1:42:26Speaker 2: you're like, fuck, we gotta go do this five am.
- 1:42:29Speaker 5: We were complaining our five am like winter matt drills
- 1:42:32Speaker 5: or whatever. I don't know if they even do that
- 1:42:33Speaker 5: anymore now, but like at Miami, we would do it
- 1:42:36Speaker 5: outside in you know, January, February, January, whatever it was,
- 1:42:40Speaker 5: and if it was like in the fifties sixties, you're like,
- 1:42:43Speaker 5: oh my god, it's freezing. The ground's wet and it
- 1:42:47Speaker 5: was fifty sixty degrees by noon it was seventy five. Yeah,
- 1:42:52Speaker 5: and we thought that was cold. Like doing that now,
- 1:42:54Speaker 5: I'm sure you guys had indoors. We didn't have indoor
- 1:42:56Speaker 5: at Miami, so we did everything outside. In the summer, though,
- 1:43:01Speaker 5: is where it really you really tested your metal because
- 1:43:05Speaker 5: it was one hundred it didn't matter if you were
- 1:43:07Speaker 5: the seven eight. Everyone would fight to do the morning
- 1:43:09Speaker 5: because it was too hot to do it at nine.
- 1:43:12Speaker 5: You know, we would get if we knew we had
- 1:43:14Speaker 5: sand pit workout. We had this like big ass sandpit
- 1:43:17Speaker 5: in the back of the athletic center. If you had
- 1:43:20Speaker 5: the sand pit workout anytime past eight am, so the
- 1:43:23Speaker 5: sun has been up. If you didn't get out there
- 1:43:26Speaker 5: early with all the boys and kick off the top
- 1:43:29Speaker 5: layer of the sand before you took your socks and
- 1:43:31Speaker 5: shoes off to go do the workout, not only were
- 1:43:33Speaker 5: you gonna puke, you were gonna burn the bottom of
- 1:43:35Speaker 5: your feet off.
- 1:43:38Speaker 1: That's how was the shit.
- 1:43:39Speaker 5: We'd wake up on and be like, all right, today's Sanday,
- 1:43:41Speaker 5: I gotta get there twenty minutes early so I can
- 1:43:43Speaker 5: clear the top layer of sand.
- 1:43:45Speaker 2: Yeah. Just the thought too in the winter of how
- 1:43:48Speaker 2: bad do you want this? When you're walking out of
- 1:43:52Speaker 2: your house at five point thirty in the morning and
- 1:43:55Speaker 2: snow is all over the car because you don't have
- 1:43:57Speaker 2: your car in a garage because you're in a little
- 1:43:59Speaker 2: townhouse or door or whatever.
- 1:44:00Speaker 1: It's smart enough to put your windshield wipers.
- 1:44:02Speaker 2: Up or yeah, and you don't you don't have a
- 1:44:04Speaker 2: self starter, so you can't walk out there. You got
- 1:44:06Speaker 2: to turn the car on while you're getting snow in
- 1:44:08Speaker 2: your shoes, you're scraping off the window. You're driving to
- 1:44:11Speaker 2: the facility and it hasn't even heated up in your
- 1:44:13Speaker 2: car yet. You get out and link in the brask
- 1:44:15Speaker 2: and there's a side like East Stadium or whatever side
- 1:44:17Speaker 2: of the stadium where wind is just smoking you in
- 1:44:20Speaker 2: the face as you're walking into the facility of like
- 1:44:22Speaker 2: how bad do I want this life? Those are the
- 1:44:25Speaker 2: moments that do test you as a man. Then you
- 1:44:27Speaker 2: walk into that six am and you got the sledge everywhere.
- 1:44:29Speaker 2: Everything you were explaining earlier, the tires, the boys puke,
- 1:44:33Speaker 2: and before the workout start or when the first group's
- 1:44:35Speaker 2: over with that is man.
- 1:44:38Speaker 1: That world you're living in. For me, when I was
- 1:44:40Speaker 1: in college, it was always like playing the game. Like
- 1:44:42Speaker 1: I would be walking. I would I would live close
- 1:44:44Speaker 1: enough to the facilities where I would just walk and
- 1:44:46Speaker 1: I would think about how cold I am. But then
- 1:44:49Speaker 1: my brain would be like, think of how much you're
- 1:44:51Speaker 1: going to wish you were cold in an hour or
- 1:44:52Speaker 1: an hour and a half or thirty minutes. Yeah, So
- 1:44:54Speaker 1: that game, so I'd be like, Okay, this is not
- 1:44:56Speaker 1: that bad because I'm there, and then once I would
- 1:44:58Speaker 1: start to work out, I think to myself, Bro, five
- 1:45:00Speaker 1: minutes from now, it's over, like there's nothing to worry
- 1:45:03Speaker 1: about anymore. Like that type of like mental warfare game
- 1:45:06Speaker 1: that you're playing with yourself is the best. It's the
- 1:45:10Speaker 1: thing you look back on You're like, I fuck you
- 1:45:11Speaker 1: hate it. It changes like your body is hurting because
- 1:45:15Speaker 1: of what happened to you when you're younger that we're
- 1:45:16Speaker 1: talking about right now, but it is what makes you
- 1:45:19Speaker 1: a man.
- 1:45:20Speaker 2: It is like, yeah, like, is my L four and
- 1:45:22Speaker 2: L five deteriorating right now because what we went through
- 1:45:25Speaker 2: when we were in our college d Yeah, absolutely, yeah.
- 1:45:27Speaker 2: But it's also part of our detriment right now as
- 1:45:29Speaker 2: old men because we have that PTSD because there's nothing
- 1:45:32Speaker 2: in our brain that is allowing us. It's just what
- 1:45:34Speaker 2: I'm trying to be graceful for with. It's like, hey, will,
- 1:45:37Speaker 2: it's okay to just go in and exercise and get
- 1:45:39Speaker 2: a sweat in with some Zone two or a light workout,
- 1:45:43Speaker 2: like in our brains, you have to get in there
- 1:45:46Speaker 2: and get after it to the most extreme, like right
- 1:45:48Speaker 2: out of the gate. That's why you want walk into
- 1:45:50Speaker 2: that basement because there's nothing in your brain that's saying, hey,
- 1:45:52Speaker 2: it's okay to just go in and sweat just a
- 1:45:53Speaker 2: little bit. Now, you want to push yourself to the
- 1:45:55Speaker 2: limits if you want to or do that as centric work.
- 1:45:57Speaker 2: You got to feel something with the uh I'm gonna die, Yeah,
- 1:45:59Speaker 2: with delayed on set, with the with the dom soreness.
- 1:46:02Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, like you you're almost scared because we feel
- 1:46:05Speaker 2: like we that those are the workouts we have to
- 1:46:07Speaker 2: do to get back in it. But in the reality, boys,
- 1:46:09Speaker 2: that's not what it is. No, it is we just
- 1:46:11Speaker 2: gotta we gotta be okay with just going in and
- 1:46:14Speaker 2: just getting some sweat, And you're wrong. That's how I'm
- 1:46:17Speaker 2: trying to talk to myself right now because I'm a
- 1:46:18Speaker 2: fat piece of shit and I've been handling myself very poorly.
- 1:46:21Speaker 2: Like I just tell my wife, like, I've got to
- 1:46:22Speaker 2: get I've got to get. This is what I'm gonna
- 1:46:24Speaker 2: start getting after New Year's resolution. With the boys, that's
- 1:46:27Speaker 2: every year, it's every year, and the New Year's Resolution,
- 1:46:30Speaker 2: that's where I'm like, that's where I just feel like
- 1:46:32Speaker 2: immortal because do I I don't want to be in
- 1:46:35Speaker 2: New Year's resolution. Guy like, I want to get started.
- 1:46:37Speaker 2: But I told myself last time I was gonna get started.
- 1:46:40Speaker 2: Today I didn't. My youngest guy said she threw up
- 1:46:43Speaker 2: in the middle of the night and then the six
- 1:46:44Speaker 2: am alaar hitting. I turned it off, yeah, because I'm like,
- 1:46:47Speaker 2: I've got to try and get some sleep.
- 1:46:48Speaker 1: And literally your morning was my exact morning. I was like, buddy,
- 1:46:51Speaker 1: he says, I've had greg I don't know if you notice.
- 1:46:53Speaker 1: I've had doubt and it's been so awful that I
- 1:46:57Speaker 1: was legit horizontal for seventy two hours of the port.
- 1:46:59Speaker 1: I'm like, learn how to walk again as a human,
- 1:47:01Speaker 1: like as an adult. And I set my alarm last night.
- 1:47:04Speaker 1: I was like, I'm gonna wake up at six. I'm
- 1:47:06Speaker 1: gonna hit the sauna, do the red light zone, two cardio,
- 1:47:09Speaker 1: I'm gonna get a work on it. I'm gonna get
- 1:47:10Speaker 1: back into a rhythm six am. Hit turn that bitch
- 1:47:14Speaker 1: to eight. And I was like, I'll see it eight am.
- 1:47:16Speaker 1: And I and didn't even flinch at it to where
- 1:47:19Speaker 1: the old me is like, you're a pussy dude, get
- 1:47:22Speaker 1: up right now, and I would count down from three
- 1:47:24Speaker 1: and when I hit one, I would stand up and
- 1:47:26Speaker 1: go do it.
- 1:47:27Speaker 2: So we show ourselves. Boys.
- 1:47:29Speaker 5: I'm absolutely like you guys are about being but we're
- 1:47:33Speaker 5: all in it together.
- 1:47:34Speaker 2: Yeah, we're all in it together.
- 1:47:35Speaker 1: You guys talking about being a fat piece of shit.
- 1:47:37Speaker 1: I'm a skinny little bitch right now. I've lost twenty pounds.
- 1:47:40Speaker 1: I took my shirt off and looked in the mirror
- 1:47:41Speaker 1: last night, and I look like Dan Olofski. I'm looking
- 1:47:45Speaker 1: like Skeletor. Dude, I look at my body. Reason Dan, Dan,
- 1:47:50Speaker 1: He's deserved it. I'll say that, you see a couple.
- 1:47:53Speaker 2: Would rather be Skeletor than having to grab my muffin
- 1:47:55Speaker 2: top and wiggle it around and just be like, God,
- 1:47:57Speaker 2: you are disgusting. Will Yes.
- 1:48:00Speaker 5: And then you got my dog Luke, who's just absolutely
- 1:48:03Speaker 5: yoked and strong. He lifts every day, he's dead lifting.
- 1:48:06Speaker 5: He is a monster. He only eats clean. We'll go
- 1:48:11Speaker 5: out for I'll be like, hey, I'm gonna take a
- 1:48:12Speaker 5: pizza and a burger, and he's like, I'll take a
- 1:48:14Speaker 5: Greek salad. I'm like, I hate you, but I love you.
- 1:48:17Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, you hate him because you want to be
- 1:48:20Speaker 1: like him.
- 1:48:20Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm like I wish I had your discipline because
- 1:48:23Speaker 5: when we go to the beach this offseason and we
- 1:48:25Speaker 5: both go shirtless, like, my wife's gonna be looking at you.
- 1:48:31Speaker 1: And that's the shitty truth. But it's all good.
- 1:48:34Speaker 5: And I'm looking at you too, so it's all good.
- 1:48:35Speaker 2: Yeah, is there?
- 1:48:37Speaker 1: I feel like dudes like jack dudes, girls don't admire
- 1:48:40Speaker 1: that more than like guys will be like, you see
- 1:48:41Speaker 1: this here, this looks pretty good, just like all right?
- 1:48:45Speaker 5: He was like, no, every time I see dude, you
- 1:48:47Speaker 5: look great. Yeah, you got to like pump each other up.
- 1:48:51Speaker 2: We'll have to get an account of bill buddy group
- 1:48:53Speaker 2: check going on.
- 1:48:54Speaker 1: We have to.
- 1:48:54Speaker 5: I feel like we have to, like, hey, what'd you
- 1:48:56Speaker 5: do this morning? When I get off this call right now,
- 1:49:00Speaker 5: my wife and kids are out of town, I'm going
- 1:49:01Speaker 5: to sit in the sauna and that starts the revolution,
- 1:49:04Speaker 5: and it starts small us a picture of all right,
- 1:49:09Speaker 5: I'll text you guys, We'll start accountability.
- 1:49:11Speaker 2: I have to accountability.
- 1:49:13Speaker 1: Appreciate your great ground. Plus we're great. Hey, how about
- 1:49:17Speaker 1: that fucking lesson on the new kickoff rules?
- 1:49:20Speaker 2: And I loved it, loved it, loved all of it.
- 1:49:23Speaker 2: Love like you know, because I'm just I get in
- 1:49:26Speaker 2: my ways of believing in defensive defense is playing well,
- 1:49:29Speaker 2: stop the run, play good defense, take the points. And
- 1:49:34Speaker 2: uh yeah, I'm learning. I'm learning some good ball. Learn
- 1:49:37Speaker 2: some good ball that you know, I'll get to utilize
- 1:49:40Speaker 2: it when I'm a head coach one.
- 1:49:41Speaker 1: Day before we get into college. Oh, we have to
- 1:49:44Speaker 1: do tear talk too, but we'll do a couple of
- 1:49:46Speaker 1: tier talks. Jack, I want your opinion on the Titans game, please,
- 1:49:49Speaker 1: I want I want to hear about it right now,
- 1:49:51Speaker 1: right now.
- 1:49:52Speaker 2: Titans are such a waste of time. Sorry.
- 1:49:56Speaker 1: I'm just think that was the most competitive getting the
- 1:49:58Speaker 1: Titans play, that's the best thing.
- 1:50:00Speaker 6: Cam Ward looked great. Yeah, there was great. Signs that
- 1:50:03Speaker 6: they need to keep Restrepo in there. I don't know
- 1:50:06Speaker 6: why he hasn't been playing at all when him and
- 1:50:08Speaker 6: cam both know the same schemes, they play so well together.
- 1:50:12Speaker 6: They're just a good fit. He didn't do much. He
- 1:50:14Speaker 6: almost had two opportunities to score. One drop ball and
- 1:50:19Speaker 6: the end zone facing away from where I was, and
- 1:50:21Speaker 6: then one that was right on the goal line. But yeah,
- 1:50:24Speaker 6: I mean, you don't really go in with too much expectation,
- 1:50:26Speaker 6: like we've stated the last few weeks. I go in
- 1:50:29Speaker 6: there just trying to get out alive. Seahawks fans travel well,
- 1:50:34Speaker 6: some people around me assholes, you know, and you just
- 1:50:37Speaker 6: have to take it on the chin. But I felt encouraged,
- 1:50:42Speaker 6: at least from cam Wart's perspective. He looked great. He
- 1:50:45Speaker 6: had a lot of promising plays. To scramble play where
- 1:50:48Speaker 6: he was evading every single person and then throws it
- 1:50:51Speaker 6: at crossbody to restrepo.
- 1:50:53Speaker 7: It was fun.
- 1:50:54Speaker 6: I mean, back to back weeks playing against two of
- 1:50:57Speaker 6: some of the best defenses in the league is something
- 1:50:59Speaker 6: that Titans and should feel good about moving forward. Again.
- 1:51:03Speaker 6: It's kind of a lose lose situation right now, being
- 1:51:06Speaker 6: now one to ten. But for the most part, I
- 1:51:11Speaker 6: enjoyed the game, even though I had no expectation to win.
- 1:51:14Speaker 6: Playing against good defenses with the current state of the Titans,
- 1:51:18Speaker 6: I think it's something that we should all look forward
- 1:51:20Speaker 6: to next year. Again, let's just move forward. We have
- 1:51:24Speaker 6: another home game next week, so we'll see that much.
- 1:51:28Speaker 1: Can I tell you a vision that I had while
- 1:51:30Speaker 1: you're speaking, please. It's twenty twenty nine. The new stadium
- 1:51:33Speaker 1: is open. We're currently in that last week in November,
- 1:51:36Speaker 1: as we are right now, just in the future. The
- 1:51:38Speaker 1: Titans are the number one seed in the AFC at
- 1:51:42Speaker 1: this point. They're essentially like the Patriots. We see right now.
- 1:51:45Speaker 1: You're in the game, you've got your tickets, you're sitting there,
- 1:51:48Speaker 1: and all around you is just Titans fans everywhere, wearing
- 1:51:52Speaker 1: tight pants and the boots, and they got their little
- 1:51:55Speaker 1: the flannel jacket on. But they're not really they're wearing
- 1:51:57Speaker 1: a jersey, but it's very new and fresh. And you
- 1:52:00Speaker 1: get to sit there with your old ted Or jersey
- 1:52:02Speaker 1: and your your Titans outfit you wear for the most part,
- 1:52:05Speaker 1: and you get to lean back in your chair and go,
- 1:52:07Speaker 1: these might be fans now, but I've been here since
- 1:52:10Speaker 1: day one, and that is what you're fighting for right now. Yeah,
- 1:52:13Speaker 1: And it juices me the fuck up to think about
- 1:52:15Speaker 1: you and these other you know, East Nashville. I'm thinking
- 1:52:19Speaker 1: about a bunch of East Nashville cats, right, That's all
- 1:52:21Speaker 1: I'm thinking about. We had nose rings, we had different
- 1:52:24Speaker 1: colored hair, we got the boots, we got the we
- 1:52:26Speaker 1: got the flannel shirts on. They're dressing up for an event,
- 1:52:29Speaker 1: you're dressing up for a game, and you get to
- 1:52:31Speaker 1: sit back with them and be like, Okay, we fucking
- 1:52:35Speaker 1: did it. Here we are.
- 1:52:36Speaker 2: We built this, we.
- 1:52:37Speaker 1: Built this, I built.
- 1:52:38Speaker 6: This, and in all the colored hair and nose rings, boots,
- 1:52:41Speaker 6: tight hands, they're welcome. Yeah, we need fans in there, right,
- 1:52:45Speaker 6: people that believe in the organization, So hopefully it does.
- 1:52:47Speaker 6: I unfortunately I went to the game solo Brothers out
- 1:52:51Speaker 6: of town. Dad couldn't make it. My friend that I
- 1:52:54Speaker 6: invited bailed on me last second.
- 1:52:56Speaker 2: So just this is how bad do I want this situation? Yeah, exactly.
- 1:53:00Speaker 6: I walked into the game with headphones on. Just I
- 1:53:03Speaker 6: didn't take him out until I sat in my seat.
- 1:53:05Speaker 6: I was listening to the radio broadcast a little bit.
- 1:53:07Speaker 6: I met up with Buck at halftime. He's like, there's
- 1:53:09Speaker 6: no way you're listening to the radio broadcast. I was like,
- 1:53:12Speaker 6: I mean, I'm just trying to just kill the time
- 1:53:14Speaker 6: at this point.
- 1:53:15Speaker 2: But yeah, it's that moment right there, when you do conquer.
- 1:53:19Speaker 2: It's you weren't with me shooting in the gym when
- 1:53:22Speaker 2: we were in hell.
- 1:53:22Speaker 1: Right, people want to see the tip of the iceberg.
- 1:53:25Speaker 1: They want to see all it takes to become the iceberg.
- 1:53:27Speaker 6: Very true. I'm definitely not going to be that fan, though,
- 1:53:30Speaker 6: God willing we are a winning organization in our new
- 1:53:32Speaker 6: stadium in years to come, I won't be the fan
- 1:53:35Speaker 6: that's like, you motherfuckers weren't here, Like, don't come if
- 1:53:38Speaker 6: you weren't here when we were losing. We need everybody, right, everyone.
- 1:53:42Speaker 1: I don't see you being that fan in that situation.
- 1:53:45Speaker 1: I see people being like, I'm the biggest Titans fan.
- 1:53:48Speaker 1: And that's when that type of Jack like rears a dougyhead.
- 1:53:52Speaker 1: You think you're a real fan. I was there at
- 1:53:53Speaker 1: twenty twenty five.
- 1:53:54Speaker 6: I haven't been drinking at these games, and I feel
- 1:53:56Speaker 6: like I just see everything so clearly. Like my aggression.
- 1:54:01Speaker 1: Sober Jack at a Titans game is crazy.
- 1:54:04Speaker 2: That knows how bad it's been. Jack is sober.
- 1:54:08Speaker 1: You got to feel everything.
- 1:54:11Speaker 6: I do think the best thing to take away from
- 1:54:13Speaker 6: it is cam Ward looks great and uh DK is
- 1:54:18Speaker 6: going to be an All Star for us as long
- 1:54:20Speaker 6: as we can keep him healthy. He's been great. It's
- 1:54:23Speaker 6: funny because in the last I think three games, we've
- 1:54:27Speaker 6: had four total touchdowns. Two of them have come from
- 1:54:31Speaker 6: Shamira Adk two of them have come from our offense.
- 1:54:35Speaker 6: So it's fun cam War got himself a TD. He
- 1:54:38Speaker 6: was fighting hard man. So I don't know. We're just
- 1:54:41Speaker 6: gonna keep pushing forward. We got Thanksgiving coming up this week.
- 1:54:44Speaker 6: We're just grateful. The weather was beautiful yesterday.
- 1:54:47Speaker 1: And we had our time to be nasty earlier in
- 1:54:49Speaker 1: the show. Not anymore. No, grateful, grateful, grateful all the
- 1:54:53Speaker 1: way through. Let's do a couple of tear talks, and
- 1:54:55Speaker 1: then let's get these beautiful fans who are listening to
- 1:54:58Speaker 1: the show out of here. This person comes to this
- 1:55:00Speaker 1: is Rambo at fourth. Oh wow, uh, underscore Will Compton.
- 1:55:04Speaker 1: What team would you retire with? The Washington Titans or
- 1:55:08Speaker 1: the Raiders? And who do you root for the most?
- 1:55:12Speaker 3: Uh?
- 1:55:12Speaker 2: If I could retire with one of those teams, for
- 1:55:14Speaker 2: sure be Washington. That is where I kind of cut
- 1:55:17Speaker 2: my teeth in the league. That is where football mattered
- 1:55:20Speaker 2: the most in my life. It's that is the that
- 1:55:24Speaker 2: is the time where I would have literally died for
- 1:55:26Speaker 2: all of my teammates. Who do I root for? I
- 1:55:32Speaker 2: just root for. I just root for good football. I
- 1:55:34Speaker 2: love watching good football out there, like I want to
- 1:55:36Speaker 2: see those teams do well. Washington, the Raiders and Titans,
- 1:55:39Speaker 2: they're there, They're not very good whatsoever this year. I
- 1:55:42Speaker 2: do want to see those teams be successful. When when
- 1:55:45Speaker 2: it comes to the NFL, it's a lot different than college. Obviously,
- 1:55:49Speaker 2: I'm a diehard Nebraska fan, will be forever. Like in
- 1:55:53Speaker 2: the NFL, I felt like more of a outside of Washington,
- 1:55:56Speaker 2: just more of a mercenary around the league. I just
- 1:55:58Speaker 2: root for some good football. Yeah, I root for some
- 1:56:00Speaker 2: good football. I love watching the game of ball. We
- 1:56:03Speaker 2: need every everybody. Here's a hashtag to your talk from
- 1:56:07Speaker 2: our boy, Caleb Ingram. If you're the Titans, GM, what
- 1:56:11Speaker 2: coach are you going after? And who's your first free
- 1:56:13Speaker 2: agent target? Believe this is a question for Jack, question
- 1:56:17Speaker 2: for Taylor. I think.
- 1:56:18Speaker 1: I think the coach you go after is Arthur Smith.
- 1:56:20Speaker 1: That's that's our guy. And then when it comes for
- 1:56:23Speaker 1: free agent, we got a lot to look into. You
- 1:56:27Speaker 1: can't pour more money into the offensive line. They've got it.
- 1:56:29Speaker 1: They've got to figure it out. Wide receiver corner Jack.
- 1:56:35Speaker 6: Yeah, I would agree. Probably I would start at that
- 1:56:37Speaker 6: secondary position, but a wide receiver would be great. We
- 1:56:40Speaker 6: paid Covin Ridley a lot of money, hasn't done too much.
- 1:56:43Speaker 6: He's injured, but DK like I'm saying he is going
- 1:56:46Speaker 6: to be a great guy. Uh alek A o'mayner could
- 1:56:50Speaker 6: be someone as well for coaching. I do you kind
- 1:56:54Speaker 6: of talked me into the the Arthur Smith realm, and
- 1:56:56Speaker 6: I don't hate it at all. Those organization. I think
- 1:57:00Speaker 6: it'd be great. I still wouldn't hate Joe Brady pull
- 1:57:03Speaker 6: but again, I think i'd like some guy with more
- 1:57:06Speaker 6: head coach experience. So I don't know right now, Mike McCoy,
- 1:57:11Speaker 6: don't hate him, don't want him as the coach, but
- 1:57:14Speaker 6: for now, as an interim he's doing the best he
- 1:57:16Speaker 6: can with a bad situation.
- 1:57:18Speaker 1: Yeah, let's not get back into the interim head coach world.
- 1:57:20Speaker 1: Let's say, hey, Mike, you're doing a great job. Appreciate you.
- 1:57:22Speaker 6: You know what's gonna happen.
- 1:57:24Speaker 1: I know, but just yeah, I know, But as of
- 1:57:26Speaker 1: right now we can just go on there. Has Joe
- 1:57:28Speaker 1: Brady lost himself a little bit of juice with the
- 1:57:30Speaker 1: way the offense is playing?
- 1:57:32Speaker 2: I mean question, yeah, I mean that, yeah, who knows. Man,
- 1:57:38Speaker 2: the Bills have been so inconsistent, Yeah, and they have
- 1:57:43Speaker 2: you know, they're they're they're battling on defense like they
- 1:57:46Speaker 2: their defense isn't at all helpful for Josh Allen in
- 1:57:49Speaker 2: that office because they can run the football. Josh Allen,
- 1:57:51Speaker 2: he can be a superhero. I don't feel like they
- 1:57:53Speaker 2: have much on the outside to work with. One thing.
- 1:57:56Speaker 2: Before we do move on to college football, which which
- 1:57:59Speaker 2: will be coming out here soon, we can't go. We can't.
- 1:58:02Speaker 2: We can't not talk about the NFC North right now
- 1:58:05Speaker 2: with the Bears, the Lions, and the Packers.
- 1:58:07Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting.
- 1:58:08Speaker 2: Bear is still at the top of the division.
- 1:58:10Speaker 1: All three teams won this weekend.
- 1:58:11Speaker 2: Yeah, Bear's got the Eagles this week.
- 1:58:13Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:58:14Speaker 2: Defense, very suspect, very opportunistic defensively. They got a lot
- 1:58:18Speaker 2: of holes defensively, like you're able to kind of do
- 1:58:21Speaker 2: anything on them. It will be fun to watch Caleb
- 1:58:23Speaker 2: Williams and Jalen Hurts duel it out. Caleb Williams. Bro
- 1:58:27Speaker 2: is that close?
- 1:58:28Speaker 1: Daniel Laski said, we can't we can't evaluate our judge
- 1:58:31Speaker 1: Caleb Williams until November. Well we're in November, and I'll
- 1:58:33Speaker 1: be honest. I like Caleb Williams. Yeah, that's a that's
- 1:58:35Speaker 1: a damn good football player.
- 1:58:37Speaker 2: I was watching I was watching the Bears offense last night,
- 1:58:40Speaker 2: just kind of scanning through Caleb Williams, Like, bro, he
- 1:58:43Speaker 2: is right there. If he just gets some accuracy on
- 1:58:45Speaker 2: that ball, which I think that stuff will come because
- 1:58:47Speaker 2: he's one of the more like statistically, one of the
- 1:58:49Speaker 2: more inaccurate passers. But man, he is right there. He's excited.
- 1:58:53Speaker 1: Last nine.
- 1:58:55Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Caleb Williams is kind of nice. He's kind
- 1:58:59Speaker 2: of nice.
- 1:59:00Speaker 1: Caleb Williams is hey, he's solid. I think I've never
- 1:59:04Speaker 1: had in my mind an opinion of a player goes
- 1:59:07Speaker 1: so dramatically different from like August to now.
- 1:59:09Speaker 2: Oh yeah and again, Like for me, I'm a victim
- 1:59:12Speaker 2: of not like watching all of the Caleb Williams ball
- 1:59:14Speaker 2: it's kind of just the tone that everybody else would
- 1:59:17Speaker 2: have with them, kind of how that's transcended. But the dude,
- 1:59:21Speaker 2: like the way they're they're calling plays, the creativity on offense,
- 1:59:23Speaker 2: the way he's kind of seeing the field going through
- 1:59:25Speaker 2: his progression, the way he can keep plays alive. He
- 1:59:27Speaker 2: has a live arm. He's nobody gets deterred from his
- 1:59:29Speaker 2: inaccurate throwing. Like the dude keeps slinging it. He is,
- 1:59:33Speaker 2: He's that close.
- 1:59:34Speaker 1: And I don't know if we want to end on this,
- 1:59:37Speaker 1: but you know who thought Caleb Williams is gonna be
- 1:59:39Speaker 1: great this year, Delanney Walker. He called it again. Delanney
- 1:59:45Speaker 1: strikes again. He's had it twice this year. Mac Jones,
- 1:59:48Speaker 1: Delanney Are Caleb Williams.
- 1:59:51Speaker 2: The se is gonna fall? Mac Jones, Caleb Williams, Yeah,
- 1:59:54Speaker 2: Justin Herbert.
- 1:59:56Speaker 1: Justin Herbert, Yeah, Justin Hurbert, who continues to be just
- 2:00:00Speaker 1: Herbert's kind of a guy. Delannie Walker, kind of nice
- 2:00:04Speaker 1: of this quarterback opinions. You can't pick a game to
- 2:00:06Speaker 1: save his life, but he's kind.
- 2:00:07Speaker 2: Of nice to the quarterbacks. All right, If you guys
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- 2:02:58Speaker 2: Let's get back to this episode of BUE with the boys, fellas,
- 2:03:01Speaker 2: Where do we want to start? I think we we
- 2:03:03Speaker 2: got rivalry Rivalry Week coming up coming up, we got
- 2:03:08Speaker 2: college football playoffs coming up. We got a lot of
- 2:03:10Speaker 2: massive games on the slate. I think we quickly get
- 2:03:13Speaker 2: to what's going to be coming up this week in
- 2:03:15Speaker 2: college sports.
- 2:03:16Speaker 1: Yeah, do you want to quickly go over what happened
- 2:03:18Speaker 1: this past week? Or do you want to?
- 2:03:21Speaker 2: We can We don't even have to recap this past week.
- 2:03:24Speaker 1: We don't have to that that that that's just that's
- 2:03:26Speaker 1: my home. Do we need to Is there anything we
- 2:03:27Speaker 1: need to talk about?
- 2:03:28Speaker 4: What are your thoughts on Dan Lanning's comments?
- 2:03:32Speaker 1: Did say?
- 2:03:33Speaker 2: He said he essentially said in.
- 2:03:35Speaker 4: The that doesn't exist, took.
- 2:03:37Speaker 2: It, took a shot, took a shot at the SEC.
- 2:03:40Speaker 2: He's like, you know, you know, we're out here competing.
- 2:03:42Speaker 2: We're not playing anybody, like like Chattanooga State this week.
- 2:03:45Speaker 2: Good for him.
- 2:03:46Speaker 1: I did see that. I did see that. Yeah, I
- 2:03:47Speaker 1: think it's awesome.
- 2:03:48Speaker 4: I mean you've seen the clip of him when he
- 2:03:50Speaker 4: was at Georgia though, saying the same exact thing about
- 2:03:52Speaker 4: the Big ten.
- 2:03:53Speaker 1: Yeah, that.
- 2:03:56Speaker 2: He knows. He's also playing the game.
- 2:03:58Speaker 4: People are talking about Lane Kiff and being good at
- 2:04:00Speaker 4: the Internet.
- 2:04:02Speaker 1: Dan's living a present life. He knows to the Internet
- 2:04:04Speaker 1: like if you say something it doesn't exist a year later,
- 2:04:07Speaker 1: Well you can say whatever you want and then reevaluate
- 2:04:09Speaker 1: your opinions. Shout out Oregon covering I said they wanted.
- 2:04:13Speaker 1: I said USC was gonna make it close. Good for them, man,
- 2:04:16Speaker 1: A plus for Dailanding. I mean that is that was
- 2:04:19Speaker 1: the game they needed. People are saying that he watched
- 2:04:21Speaker 1: the locker room. He saw people doubting him in the
- 2:04:23Speaker 1: locker room, and for that reason they covered against USC.
- 2:04:25Speaker 1: So we will take a little bit of credit on that.
- 2:04:27Speaker 1: Owe you. They beat Miszoo. Yeah, you're right last Saturday.
- 2:04:30Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. This week is the most important week
- 2:04:34Speaker 1: in all of college football rivalries, every like South Carolina
- 2:04:39Speaker 1: playing Clemson this week right every the winner the spring,
- 2:04:44Speaker 1: the summer. At some point Clemson is mentioned on a
- 2:04:47Speaker 1: weekly basis. Hey, we have to be Clemson. Same thing
- 2:04:50Speaker 1: goes for Clemson're talking about South Carolina. We have to
- 2:04:52Speaker 1: beat that team, all right. Nebraska plays Iowa, all right?
- 2:04:56Speaker 1: At some point, if Nebraska and Iowa are the other
- 2:04:58Speaker 1: franchises the programs we claim to be, they're sitting there.
- 2:05:01Speaker 1: They got to beat in Nebraska. Nebraska's gotta beat Iowa, Auburn, Alabama,
- 2:05:06Speaker 1: Like every year, it doesn't matter how good or how
- 2:05:08Speaker 1: bad a team is. We gotta take that game seriously
- 2:05:11Speaker 1: because there's always implications coming up. There's always something. Vanderbilt
- 2:05:15Speaker 1: and Tennessee, a newly regenerated rivalry taking place. One team
- 2:05:21Speaker 1: has playoff hopes, the other team is hoping to break
- 2:05:23Speaker 1: the playoff hopes. It's very unique to see which team
- 2:05:25Speaker 1: has a playoff hops. Does hear the state who is
- 2:05:28Speaker 1: going to win the state? Texas A and M in Texas,
- 2:05:31Speaker 1: Texas A and M in Texas that they haven't played
- 2:05:34Speaker 1: in thirteen years and they're now playing That rivalry is back,
- 2:05:37Speaker 1: and there's nothing like bringing the rivalry back the way
- 2:05:40Speaker 1: that Notre Dame in Michigan should be back. All of
- 2:05:42Speaker 1: those rivalry games are important. There is not one in
- 2:05:47Speaker 1: college football or maybe in all of sports that matter
- 2:05:50Speaker 1: more than Michigan versus Ohio State. Ohio State the number
- 2:05:55Speaker 1: one team the land, Michigan in the teams of the
- 2:05:58Speaker 1: top twenty five right now, and boys, I'm just telling you,
- 2:06:03Speaker 1: Michigan's won the last four. Every game has meant something right,
- 2:06:06Speaker 1: playoff implications. And then there's that one that took place
- 2:06:09Speaker 1: last year where Michigan is twenty and a half point
- 2:06:12Speaker 1: underdogs and they go and they beat Ohio State thirteen
- 2:06:16Speaker 1: to ten and bully them into submission and winning that game.
- 2:06:21Speaker 1: This is the rivalry is truly in my opinion, and
- 2:06:25Speaker 1: I haven't lived through the eighties and nineties and loving
- 2:06:28Speaker 1: the team that way or being alive. I think the
- 2:06:30Speaker 1: rivalry is in the best place it's ever been. And
- 2:06:33Speaker 1: I'm sure Ohio State fans would probably disagree with that,
- 2:06:35Speaker 1: but say what you want. Like the last twenty years,
- 2:06:37Speaker 1: before these last four games, Ohio States kind of ran Michigan. Shit,
- 2:06:40Speaker 1: all right, they won two in twenty years. Now, it's
- 2:06:43Speaker 1: like the hatreds at an all time high. Flags are
- 2:06:45Speaker 1: being planted. Congress is sitting there changing laws in Ohio
- 2:06:49Speaker 1: because of what Michigan has done. There's fight stating place,
- 2:06:51Speaker 1: there's mace being put out by police officers after games,
- 2:06:55Speaker 1: drawing fighting. When I was there and Michigan was bad,
- 2:06:59Speaker 1: we only beat them one time, and every game, though,
- 2:07:02Speaker 1: was relatively competitive. My senior year, we'd go for two
- 2:07:05Speaker 1: at the end of the game and don't get it.
- 2:07:07Speaker 1: We lose that game forty two to forty one. This
- 2:07:09Speaker 1: game defines the season. Look at Ohio State. Ohio State
- 2:07:14Speaker 1: wins the national championship last year and every person that
- 2:07:17Speaker 1: doesn't like Ohio State goes. But you couldn't beat Michigan.
- 2:07:19Speaker 1: You have a blemish on your national championship because you
- 2:07:22Speaker 1: could not beat Michigan. So for three hundred and sixty
- 2:07:24Speaker 1: five Ohio States had to eat you know, eat crow,
- 2:07:26Speaker 1: eat MoU whatever the term is. They have had to fight,
- 2:07:30Speaker 1: scratch and claw. And now your two best wide receivers
- 2:07:33Speaker 1: may or may not play in this game, and Michigan
- 2:07:37Speaker 1: has had their best game. They've had all year against Maryland.
- 2:07:40Speaker 1: They have an incredible run game. They've had incredible run game.
- 2:07:42Speaker 1: Their defense is playing the best they have since the
- 2:07:44Speaker 1: USC game. We have a kid that could be great,
- 2:07:48Speaker 1: has all the talents, all the things that show that
- 2:07:50Speaker 1: he could be him, and it all comes down to
- 2:07:53Speaker 1: this game. Michigan wins, they make the playoffs. Ohio State wins.
- 2:07:58Speaker 1: There's half of a decade off of your back right now.
- 2:08:02Speaker 1: Ryan Day gets the credit that he truly does deserve.
- 2:08:06Speaker 1: I'm switching my opinion up a little bit in that
- 2:08:07Speaker 1: because last year I said that he's not a leader
- 2:08:09Speaker 1: of men, He's not this and that you brought up
- 2:08:10Speaker 1: a great article that you can talk about. This game
- 2:08:14Speaker 1: means everything, and it's in ann Arbor. Kicks off at
- 2:08:18Speaker 1: a twelve eastern and it is going to be if
- 2:08:21Speaker 1: Michigan wins this game. Win, Michigan wins this game, we
- 2:08:25Speaker 1: will truly own Ohio State. There's no more excuses.
- 2:08:29Speaker 3: It's been two thousand and thirty nine days since the
- 2:08:32Speaker 3: last time Ohio State beat Michigan, which is in insant
- 2:08:36Speaker 3: that these hype videos that are going to be coming
- 2:08:39Speaker 3: out and.
- 2:08:39Speaker 1: Every year due to Ohio States, the number one their
- 2:08:42Speaker 1: top three team every single year, and the wing healmet
- 2:08:45Speaker 1: they see, they see the wing helmet and they shit themselves.
- 2:08:48Speaker 1: Now new OC, new DC Matt Patricia. He's has one
- 2:08:53Speaker 1: of the best defenses in the last twenty years coming
- 2:08:55Speaker 1: out of Ohio State. People are saying, who have they played?
- 2:08:58Speaker 1: They haven't really played anybody. Now Brian Hartline. Before things
- 2:09:03Speaker 1: go down this week and I start probably getting nasty
- 2:09:06Speaker 1: or whatever I have, I don't like how much respect
- 2:09:10Speaker 1: I have for Brian Hartline. He does an incredible job. Obviously,
- 2:09:13Speaker 1: you see the recruiting. He was the wide receivers coach.
- 2:09:15Speaker 1: This is his first year being the OC. Like, he's
- 2:09:17Speaker 1: done an incredible job as the OC. He does a
- 2:09:19Speaker 1: great job recruiting. He's got probably the two best players
- 2:09:23Speaker 1: in college football out in the perimeter for him, and
- 2:09:26Speaker 1: the best defense. I think they are number one defense
- 2:09:28Speaker 1: in all of college football. What an opportunity for both
- 2:09:31Speaker 1: teams and it is, dude. The thing, this is what
- 2:09:36Speaker 1: matters is if Michigan wins this game, we own Ohio State.
- 2:09:39Speaker 1: If Michigan loses this game and Ohio State wins, you
- 2:09:43Speaker 1: guys win like you guys, there's no like we own
- 2:09:46Speaker 1: you because the last four years you've voted those twenty
- 2:09:48Speaker 1: before that. Like, if you win the game, you are
- 2:09:52Speaker 1: the winner. There's no like the broken man myself, who
- 2:09:54Speaker 1: would be the broken man be? Yeah, but we won
- 2:09:55Speaker 1: the last four we all know that I'll be hollow
- 2:09:57Speaker 1: at the end of this. It means everything?
- 2:10:01Speaker 2: How much does mean?
- 2:10:02Speaker 1: It means everything? Dude?
- 2:10:04Speaker 4: This is the game, Like, thank you all for another
- 2:10:06Speaker 4: episode of Bush.
- 2:10:10Speaker 1: Yeah, you guys can laugh all you want. You laugh
- 2:10:12Speaker 1: all you want that. You guys don't understand this is
- 2:10:13Speaker 1: the in the game. This is the biggest rivalry in
- 2:10:16Speaker 1: all of college sports. I don't expect you to understand
- 2:10:19Speaker 1: it is big.
- 2:10:20Speaker 2: You said that we got some rivalry games.
- 2:10:22Speaker 1: Now, yes, some you said that, but not like Will's
- 2:10:26Speaker 1: not over here talking about we got Iowa, Iole. It's
- 2:10:28Speaker 1: like that isn't That's not like that's Nebrassa talks about.
- 2:10:33Speaker 1: You talk about South You were probably better about the
- 2:10:36Speaker 1: Clemson thing.
- 2:10:37Speaker 4: Well, you said that Ohio State is an asterisk next
- 2:10:39Speaker 4: to their natty because it couldn't beat Michigan. Yeah, so
- 2:10:43Speaker 4: the last two Natties. The importance of this game is
- 2:10:45Speaker 4: the battle of the asterisk.
- 2:10:47Speaker 1: I mean that's petty. I think we looked at what
- 2:10:51Speaker 1: the NCAA did. They they charged Michigan with twenty million dollars,
- 2:10:54Speaker 1: like dropping the bucket. Move on. That just shows they
- 2:10:57Speaker 1: had nothing.
- 2:10:59Speaker 3: Like that.
- 2:11:00Speaker 1: It's nothing to a program calibern No. Yeah, yeah, the
- 2:11:03Speaker 1: game is massive. The game is everything. The game is everything.
- 2:11:07Speaker 2: Everything it is.
- 2:11:09Speaker 1: It's the only game that matters this weekend. I'm sorry, Like, yeah,
- 2:11:14Speaker 1: I'm for the casual viewer. For the casual viewer who
- 2:11:18Speaker 1: doesn't you know football, They don't have a team. They
- 2:11:20Speaker 1: just say Saturday football. Like people be like, oh shit,
- 2:11:22Speaker 1: Michigan's playing on Hoi State this week, you know, like
- 2:11:24Speaker 1: they're not like doing that with a lot of maybe Auburn,
- 2:11:27Speaker 1: Alabama maybe, but most likely. But people are sitting there going,
- 2:11:31Speaker 1: you know, Michigan and Ohio State this week.
- 2:11:34Speaker 2: It's just tough.
- 2:11:35Speaker 1: That's then the casual things not thinking it's tough.
- 2:11:37Speaker 4: For that game to hold like a ton of weight
- 2:11:39Speaker 4: in the South because it's at eleven am and it's
- 2:11:41Speaker 4: just like hard to get up for a game like
- 2:11:43Speaker 4: that at eleven am.
- 2:11:45Speaker 5: They need to move it.
- 2:11:46Speaker 1: I think I think it's awesome.
- 2:11:47Speaker 3: I think it's awesome there.
- 2:11:49Speaker 1: I will sog in the morning.
- 2:11:51Speaker 2: This is the most excited for a game that I've
- 2:11:56Speaker 2: been just because that I'm that I'm getting to watch
- 2:11:58Speaker 2: just from the outside looking in, seeing the rivalry unfold
- 2:12:02Speaker 2: the way it has, especially in this era of social
- 2:12:05Speaker 2: media and everything else. It's like when you go back
- 2:12:07Speaker 2: to Alabama Vanderbilt when Alabama beat Georgia, the first thought
- 2:12:12Speaker 2: after Alabama beat Georgia, they don't even care about the win.
- 2:12:14Speaker 2: All they know is that they have Vanderbilt on the
- 2:12:16Speaker 2: schedule next week. I feel like it's the exact same
- 2:12:18Speaker 2: way for both of these teams with Michigan Ohio State.
- 2:12:20Speaker 2: Everybody knows what's at stake here, Ohio State fans just
- 2:12:23Speaker 2: getting to watch it from afar. Just the pettiness, the
- 2:12:28Speaker 2: going at each other, each fan base, the way Michigan
- 2:12:31Speaker 2: is just strutted around and shit on Ohio State fans
- 2:12:33Speaker 2: for the last four years, especially after last year when
- 2:12:36Speaker 2: Michigan was twenty and a half point underdogs and you
- 2:12:38Speaker 2: go in and beat and beat Ohio State and they're
- 2:12:40Speaker 2: going to win the Natty no One. It's like everybody
- 2:12:42Speaker 2: from Michigan make sure they make sure that Ohio State
- 2:12:45Speaker 2: fans feel like that doesn't even matter because you can't
- 2:12:47Speaker 2: beat Michigan. I'm so excited for this game just because again,
- 2:12:50Speaker 2: you guys are coming off playing your best ball with
- 2:12:52Speaker 2: you with Michigan, Bryce Underwood, the run game, all that
- 2:12:55Speaker 2: stuff questionable. I hope those receivers get to play for
- 2:12:58Speaker 2: the lost State because everybody knows. Everybody wants the best
- 2:13:01Speaker 2: ball to be played on Saturday, because this does feel
- 2:13:03Speaker 2: like a war that is brewing. Every commercial that talks
- 2:13:06Speaker 2: about the game happening, the clips where you see both
- 2:13:08Speaker 2: locker rooms chirping each other, going at each other, barking
- 2:13:11Speaker 2: at each other when they're in the tunnel, It's gonna
- 2:13:14Speaker 2: be electric. I cannot wait to watch this game this weekend.
- 2:13:17Speaker 1: The pettiness, the fighting, the cops with the mace, like
- 2:13:21Speaker 1: people say, oh, there's no place for that in college football,
- 2:13:23Speaker 1: Like this storyline that's taking place over the last three
- 2:13:26Speaker 1: four years, the Hey Michigan, you guys are cheaters. We're
- 2:13:29Speaker 1: gonna beat your ass. Ohio State puts the most money
- 2:13:32Speaker 1: in to college football that any other teams possibly put
- 2:13:34Speaker 1: in because they want to win a national championship and
- 2:13:36Speaker 1: they need to beat Michigan. And then they don't like
- 2:13:40Speaker 1: people trying to change laws in Ohio making it a
- 2:13:42Speaker 1: crime to plan a flag on the fifty yard line,
- 2:13:45Speaker 1: Like this is what makes this is what makes college
- 2:13:49Speaker 1: football the best.
- 2:13:50Speaker 2: Portnoy posted a little kid just they were reenacting. They're
- 2:13:53Speaker 2: reenacting the flags play in a play in a play
- 2:13:57Speaker 2: like the storyline of Michigan with the now national championship,
- 2:14:01Speaker 2: the scandals, the beating Ohio State the last four years,
- 2:14:04Speaker 2: Ohio State storyline of winning the Natty, losing the Michigan
- 2:14:08Speaker 2: Ryan Day's storyline, his story arc with Ohio State and
- 2:14:11Speaker 2: this being the game. It's like everything is pointing to
- 2:14:14Speaker 2: cinema this weekend.
- 2:14:15Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, it is, It is gonna be. It's everything, dude, everything.
- 2:14:22Speaker 9: And imagine it's like everybody knows how great of athlete Bryce,
- 2:14:26Speaker 9: Bryce Underwood, Bryce Underwood is and he hasn't really had
- 2:14:30Speaker 9: his moment this season of where the whole country is
- 2:14:33Speaker 9: like whoa Bryce Underwood is different? And imagine that moment
- 2:14:37Speaker 9: happens in the biggest game of the season, bro, because
- 2:14:40Speaker 9: it could. And if I'm a Michigan fan, That's probably
- 2:14:42Speaker 9: all I'm thinking about this whole week. He's like, this
- 2:14:44Speaker 9: is the game that Bryce, Yeah, the world find.
- 2:14:46Speaker 1: Because as like as a Michigan fan, like when you're
- 2:14:49Speaker 1: watching this kid, Bryce Underwood start to play and you know,
- 2:14:52Speaker 1: you fumble against Oklahoma, you fumble against USC, and it's
- 2:14:56Speaker 1: like you see these flashes that are like, oh my god.
- 2:14:59Speaker 1: The first thing will just watching the first game and
- 2:15:01Speaker 1: him completing a pass that's like I haven't seen that
- 2:15:04Speaker 1: in year, Like that's just amazing to see. And then
- 2:15:07Speaker 1: like you catch yourself as a Michigan fan like watching
- 2:15:09Speaker 1: Bryce under what's that line? Over and over again because
- 2:15:11Speaker 1: you're like, hey, we got to keep it above. We
- 2:15:13Speaker 1: want this, we want that, like and you just after
- 2:15:16Speaker 1: Oklahoma and USC, the rest of the games are like
- 2:15:20Speaker 1: how do you get prepared for Ohio State? That's really
- 2:15:22Speaker 1: what the rest of the games turns. That you see
- 2:15:23Speaker 1: us almost skid and fall off the rails against Northwestern,
- 2:15:26Speaker 1: that changes the whole dynamic of this week. It doesn't,
- 2:15:28Speaker 1: It doesn't like it's still very important. The implications are
- 2:15:31Speaker 1: so much more. But you're right, dude, like this kid
- 2:15:34Speaker 1: like he doesn't have like I think Joe Klatt say this,
- 2:15:37Speaker 1: like he doesn't need to be the factor in this game,
- 2:15:39Speaker 1: but he needs to be a factor in this game
- 2:15:42Speaker 1: in order for Mission to win this game, especially if
- 2:15:44Speaker 1: there's both those wide receivers play. Who knows where their
- 2:15:46Speaker 1: running back, Like Justice Hayes broke his foot, he's not
- 2:15:48Speaker 1: playing in this game. Jordan Marshall goes down in Northwestern,
- 2:15:51Speaker 1: There's like he could have played in this last game
- 2:15:54Speaker 1: as an emergency back, but they wanted to get him healthy.
- 2:15:56Speaker 1: We have a walk on running back who rushes for
- 2:15:58Speaker 1: over one hundred yards, and it's like, you have you
- 2:16:02Speaker 1: have six freshmen starting on that offense. I think there's
- 2:16:05Speaker 1: eleven total freshmen that are playing significant snaps for Michigan
- 2:16:09Speaker 1: right now, line three on the line, and you you
- 2:16:12Speaker 1: don't have a player on Michigan's roster that has lost
- 2:16:15Speaker 1: to Ohio State. And on the contrary, you don't have
- 2:16:18Speaker 1: a player on Ohio State's roster that's beaten Michigan. Dude,
- 2:16:22Speaker 1: that hate is is beautiful and I think that was
- 2:16:24Speaker 1: so crazy. Is like if you really, you know, melted
- 2:16:27Speaker 1: everything down to the cores, Like, yeah, I have a
- 2:16:30Speaker 1: level of respect for Ohigo State that I don't necessarily
- 2:16:32Speaker 1: carry for like a Michigan State. I don't respect Michigan
- 2:16:35Speaker 1: State as a program, and I think most Michigan Evans
- 2:16:37Speaker 1: would probably agree with that from a Higo State standpoint,
- 2:16:39Speaker 1: like you can hate as much as you want, but
- 2:16:40Speaker 1: you're gonna tip the cap and be like, that's a
- 2:16:42Speaker 1: well run program, and so including all the hate that's
- 2:16:45Speaker 1: taking place, the fact that the line's at twelve and
- 2:16:47Speaker 1: a half and now it's moved to ten and a half.
- 2:16:49Speaker 4: Yeah, buddy, just like that game where Bryce needs to
- 2:16:52Speaker 4: if he has the op take like the six yard run,
- 2:16:55Speaker 4: get down. Yeah, like just move the move the ball,
- 2:16:59Speaker 4: move the chains. When you have that window, no mistakes?
- 2:17:02Speaker 1: Could you see it? Like what if he gets a
- 2:17:03Speaker 1: shot and do what if he gets a thirty yard
- 2:17:05Speaker 1: forty yard bomb and it's like we have this and
- 2:17:10Speaker 1: we have the explosive run that we've had in every
- 2:17:13Speaker 1: single game this year.
- 2:17:16Speaker 3: Can I Can I come over and watch the game
- 2:17:18Speaker 3: with you?
- 2:17:19Speaker 1: Yeah?
- 2:17:20Speaker 3: I think that'd be fun.
- 2:17:21Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, we want to do that absolutely. I mean
- 2:17:23Speaker 1: it'll be Saturday.
- 2:17:24Speaker 2: I know, me and my kids broke at eleven o'clock.
- 2:17:29Speaker 3: I'll be there if I'm allowed.
- 2:17:30Speaker 1: Dude, it is so fucking exciting.
- 2:17:32Speaker 10: I I am very week because someone's heart's getting broken.
- 2:17:35Speaker 10: One goes way too hard way too hard. Yeah hard,
- 2:17:41Speaker 10: poor Jack Saw. You're just getting yeah used, I know,
- 2:17:46Speaker 10: I know.
- 2:17:46Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 2:17:47Speaker 1: And the thing that's crazy with that promo is last
- 2:17:49Speaker 1: year we sat here and people are like, there's no
- 2:17:51Speaker 1: room for this, And I said, if you think there's
- 2:17:53Speaker 1: truly no room for this in college football, then do
- 2:17:55Speaker 1: not use any of the ship that took place as
- 2:17:57Speaker 1: a promo. And here we are a year later, a minute. Yeah,
- 2:18:02Speaker 1: and you guys like, oh, we we can't have this.
- 2:18:04Speaker 1: That's all saving fakes. People love it, people love it.
- 2:18:07Speaker 1: They need it, Like Jack Sore, great kid, hope he
- 2:18:09Speaker 1: has a great career at the Steelers.
- 2:18:12Speaker 9: You need that.
- 2:18:13Speaker 1: You need to have that in college football. The hate,
- 2:18:16Speaker 1: the storyline, everything is what makes it count. So yeah, dude,
- 2:18:21Speaker 1: Michigan's winning this game.
- 2:18:22Speaker 11: Bro.
- 2:18:23Speaker 2: This is big b. This is big Bryce Underwood game
- 2:18:25Speaker 2: right here.
- 2:18:26Speaker 1: Big Bryce. This is a this is a big Michigan
- 2:18:28Speaker 1: identity game right here.
- 2:18:29Speaker 2: I think, like to Joe Klad's thing, I think he's
- 2:18:31Speaker 2: a factor if you guys are winning this game by
- 2:18:34Speaker 2: like a two touchdown, like a you know, a two
- 2:18:36Speaker 2: score game. But in every other scenario, I feel like
- 2:18:39Speaker 2: it's Bryce Underwood. Like, if you guys lose closer, You're
- 2:18:41Speaker 2: you're you're within striking range. It's like all eyes, It's like,
- 2:18:44Speaker 2: this is a Bryce Underwood moment. You guys win a Yeah,
- 2:18:47Speaker 2: if you guys win a close game, to me, it's
- 2:18:49Speaker 2: gonna be something that Bryce Underwood did. If you need
- 2:18:52Speaker 2: him to win through there and you guys are down,
- 2:18:53Speaker 2: it's gonna be a Bryce Underwood moment.
- 2:18:55Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 2:18:57Speaker 2: This is uh, it's gonna be so fun to watch.
- 2:19:00Speaker 1: And we we've the last two weeks we've sat out
- 2:19:03Speaker 1: like four defensive players. Ernest Housman didn't play last week.
- 2:19:07Speaker 4: A real chance Ohio State sits out cart There's.
- 2:19:10Speaker 1: No way they're gonna sit those guys out. There's a
- 2:19:12Speaker 1: there's a real world where they are too injured to play,
- 2:19:16Speaker 1: which to me.
- 2:19:17Speaker 2: I can't have that.
- 2:19:19Speaker 1: They're undisclosed. Ohio State will not say I looked into
- 2:19:23Speaker 1: it all yesterday.
- 2:19:24Speaker 2: Frustrating, but Mitch know, just someone on the back channels
- 2:19:28Speaker 2: as Ohio State guy.
- 2:19:29Speaker 3: They won't say, it's it's known. I'm not hurt. No,
- 2:19:32Speaker 3: I knew they were hurt, but I.
- 2:19:34Speaker 2: Like, I know, but I I do have enough respect
- 2:19:37Speaker 2: for you that you would know that ye are that you? Yeah?
- 2:19:40Speaker 1: If the if the information is available, Yeah, they've.
- 2:19:43Speaker 2: Done They've just done an incredible job. We're keeping it.
- 2:19:45Speaker 1: Everything's in house. Like you watch the they played Rutgers.
- 2:19:49Speaker 1: Ohio State played Rugers this past week. The week before that,
- 2:19:51Speaker 1: they played u C. L A. And Jeremiah Smith was
- 2:19:53Speaker 1: kind of in there sparingly. He played the first half,
- 2:19:55Speaker 1: not the second half. You watching him walk to the
- 2:19:58Speaker 1: locker room, he is, he's truly he looks like me
- 2:20:00Speaker 1: with gout. Jeremiah Smith might have gout before.
- 2:20:04Speaker 3: Sharon looked this up because it says it here, but
- 2:20:07Speaker 3: I didn't know it was like a lower body. I
- 2:20:09Speaker 3: think I wouldn't doubt that, Like Carnells is like a
- 2:20:11Speaker 3: hamstring your knee, and then I think Jeremiah Smith is
- 2:20:14Speaker 3: like an ankle.
- 2:20:15Speaker 2: Gotcha, I mean, buddy and big uh big, Like obviously
- 2:20:21Speaker 2: it's all about beating Ohio State, but also big implication
- 2:20:25Speaker 2: for you guys playoff wise, like if you guys win
- 2:20:26Speaker 2: or you guys in the Big Ten champions.
- 2:20:28Speaker 1: I was trying to looked it up yesterday, going through
- 2:20:30Speaker 1: the Big Ten scenario.
- 2:20:34Speaker 2: What are the yeah, look up big.
- 2:20:37Speaker 1: To lose? Yeah, I think Indiana has a tiebreaker over Oregon.
- 2:20:45Speaker 1: We would have the tiebreaker over Ohio State, it could
- 2:20:49Speaker 1: be Indiana Oregon. If Oregon loses the Washington this week,
- 2:20:52Speaker 1: which I don't see.
- 2:20:53Speaker 3: Happening like that, I don't think y'all would be in
- 2:20:57Speaker 3: the Big Ten Championship. But I think y'all would jump
- 2:21:00Speaker 3: up into the top twelve.
- 2:21:01Speaker 1: Well, yeah, we're I think we're for sure. You can't.
- 2:21:03Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, so it is. It'd be organ If you
- 2:21:06Speaker 2: guys win, it'd be Oregon, Indiana.
- 2:21:10Speaker 1: Oh In scenario, Indiana beats preduye, Michigan beats Ohio State.
- 2:21:13Speaker 1: That's how indianapls Michigan.
- 2:21:15Speaker 2: Oregon does still have to be Washington.
- 2:21:19Speaker 7: Another great opportunity for Ohio State, though.
- 2:21:21Speaker 8: If they do lose the Michigan, don't play in the
- 2:21:24Speaker 8: Big Ten Championship like they did last year.
- 2:21:26Speaker 7: Get healthy for the playoff run.
- 2:21:30Speaker 1: Yeah do you punt? Hey, Indiana, you got it.
- 2:21:33Speaker 8: There's like pros and cons to the Big Ten Championship.
- 2:21:36Speaker 8: Michigan's in a great spot if they win, they don't
- 2:21:38Speaker 8: you don't want to be in the.
- 2:21:38Speaker 2: Big Ten champions We just got to win game. I
- 2:21:41Speaker 2: think the best situation of being you You're a ten
- 2:21:43Speaker 2: and two team on the outside not having to play
- 2:21:44Speaker 2: a championship game because you're looking at you're looking at
- 2:21:47Speaker 2: this scenario with Alabama. If it's Alabama A and M
- 2:21:50Speaker 2: and A and M beats Alabama, it's like there's a
- 2:21:52Speaker 2: three loss Alabama fall out of the playoff because everybody's
- 2:21:55Speaker 2: so tight right now. And by the way, shot shout
- 2:21:57Speaker 2: out to Pitt. Shout out to Pitt for mopping the
- 2:21:59Speaker 2: floor with Georgia Tech, because now Georgia Tech's out of
- 2:22:02Speaker 2: it and you're looking at that game.
- 2:22:03Speaker 1: Pissed me off so much. Dude, pissed me the fuck off.
- 2:22:08Speaker 1: Then I don't care about like who beat who the
- 2:22:12Speaker 1: locker room. I was gonna take SMU over Litwileville. We
- 2:22:15Speaker 1: saw sm you beat the breaks off of Louisville. And
- 2:22:18Speaker 1: just for the record's sake, Clump text me in the morning,
- 2:22:20Speaker 1: seven am on a Wednesday, Hey, do you mind if
- 2:22:22Speaker 1: we changed this game? So now I'm just kind of
- 2:22:24Speaker 1: like guessing and I end up taking Georgia Georgia Tech.
- 2:22:27Speaker 11: Will you followed pet? You should have followed your boy. Well,
- 2:22:30Speaker 11: your boy saw the board man. It was always dude,
- 2:22:36Speaker 11: This game means everything.
- 2:22:38Speaker 2: It was always pit but you'll have there's no excuse
- 2:22:41Speaker 2: either way. With the ACC, you'll have Virginia pitt S,
- 2:22:45Speaker 2: m u H, Georgia Tech. And again like you got
- 2:22:49Speaker 2: Virginia Virginia Tech. Like Virginia Tech sleeps and sneaks up
- 2:22:53Speaker 2: on Virginia and wins that game. Virginia is then would
- 2:22:56Speaker 2: they even be in the a CEC Championship. They when
- 2:23:00Speaker 2: you're looking at a scenario of a G five team
- 2:23:03Speaker 2: JMU or Twulane, like they take care of business, win
- 2:23:05Speaker 2: they're conference, they could be ranked higher than the ACC
- 2:23:08Speaker 2: champion because right now the highest rated ACC team right
- 2:23:11Speaker 2: now is Virginia, but they're at what like seventeen or
- 2:23:13Speaker 2: something like their fifteen. Yeah, I guess it depends on
- 2:23:17Speaker 2: what the what the committee does with the playoff rankings,
- 2:23:19Speaker 2: but they could fall below the G five conference champion.
- 2:23:22Speaker 4: That's what they're saying is that's how you get away.
- 2:23:25Speaker 2: Yeah, the G five would have the automatic conference champion
- 2:23:29Speaker 2: bid so with the ACC champion, but they would be
- 2:23:31Speaker 2: used as an at large pick versus having like the
- 2:23:34Speaker 2: auto championship, you know what I mean, where they get
- 2:23:36Speaker 2: kind of seated. That way, they would be like an
- 2:23:38Speaker 2: at large team that gets in shrom.
- 2:23:40Speaker 1: Just rode up here. There are eight SEC championship scenarios
- 2:23:43Speaker 1: and there are six ACC Championship scenarios.
- 2:23:46Speaker 2: The ACC one is the most one where there could
- 2:23:49Speaker 2: be the most chaos, like something likely happy likely happen.
- 2:23:52Speaker 2: I think Virginia Tech beating Virginia versus like the SEC.
- 2:23:55Speaker 2: It's like, you guys should take care of Auburn because
- 2:23:57Speaker 2: as long as Alabama wins, they're going to be in
- 2:23:59Speaker 2: against Texas A and M. Like Texa A and M
- 2:24:01Speaker 2: is going to be in whether they win or lose
- 2:24:03Speaker 2: against Texas.
- 2:24:04Speaker 5: Uh?
- 2:24:05Speaker 1: Is that right?
- 2:24:09Speaker 9: World?
- 2:24:10Speaker 2: Someone the mic?
- 2:24:12Speaker 4: I think if A and M loses, there's a world
- 2:24:14Speaker 4: like if I mean if there's eight scenarios, right, if
- 2:24:18Speaker 4: A and M loses.
- 2:24:18Speaker 2: There's got to be.
- 2:24:21Speaker 7: Like, is there a world that's Georgia and because they.
- 2:24:23Speaker 2: Would only have they would only have like A and
- 2:24:25Speaker 2: M would still be in no matter what. It would
- 2:24:29Speaker 2: come down to scenarios.
- 2:24:30Speaker 1: Alabama versus Georgia, hold on, go Down, Go.
- 2:24:33Speaker 2: Down, Cinema, go down, Georgia and Bama losing whoever it
- 2:24:38Speaker 2: comes down like oh miss.
- 2:24:39Speaker 1: Winning Alabama versus Old Miss Texas A and M loses
- 2:24:43Speaker 1: the Texas Alabama wins out Old Miss wins out Georgia.
- 2:24:46Speaker 1: So Georgia's gotta lose to uh Georgia teft. So that's
- 2:24:52Speaker 1: how that's how A and M misses Georgia versus Texas.
- 2:24:56Speaker 1: Texas beats A and M. Georgia beats Texas.
- 2:25:00Speaker 2: Yeah, Texas pizza in and Georgie b Texas. Alabama lose
- 2:25:03Speaker 2: at least one.
- 2:25:04Speaker 3: I feel like the versions of it's kind of confusing.
- 2:25:07Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of confused.
- 2:25:08Speaker 2: Chat GPT doesn't already doesn't have ball, don't at all?
- 2:25:13Speaker 2: No sh.
- 2:25:17Speaker 1: Look at him up with uh yeah, hey dot to
- 2:25:21Speaker 1: bring Hi back to the game. But think about the
- 2:25:22Speaker 1: implications for Bryce Underwood as well, saying like they've never
- 2:25:25Speaker 1: seen a freshman like me. He's on rich I he's
- 2:25:27Speaker 1: telling Lebron James like you guys are never gonna win again,
- 2:25:31Speaker 1: and now it's time to find out.
- 2:25:33Speaker 2: Yeah it was only eighteen.
- 2:25:37Speaker 1: Turn eighteen in August eleventh.
- 2:25:38Speaker 2: Yeah, of course our computer is still trying to load here,
- 2:25:43Speaker 2: I mean.
- 2:25:47Speaker 1: Here they are.
- 2:25:47Speaker 2: So George is in with an Alabama loss or an
- 2:25:50Speaker 2: A and M loss. Alabama wins there in and win
- 2:25:55Speaker 2: or Alabama loss ol Miss loss Ole misses in if
- 2:25:59Speaker 2: they win the Egg Bowl and M loss and Bama loss.
- 2:26:04Speaker 3: So Alabama and Texas A and M winning in got you.
- 2:26:08Speaker 2: So it's not eight scenarios in the SEC. That was
- 2:26:10Speaker 2: just Chad GPT's version five weeks ago. This is why
- 2:26:16Speaker 2: we coined as football players for break damage. Yeah, because
- 2:26:20Speaker 2: because the looks at um, Oh there's eight situations here. Actually, no,
- 2:26:25Speaker 2: there's not eight ways for chaos.
- 2:26:26Speaker 1: Yeah, So ACC is the most exciting piece of chaos.
- 2:26:31Speaker 2: Yeah, that's one that could we could see something like that.
- 2:26:34Speaker 5: I think it's a game this weekend.
- 2:26:36Speaker 8: Sure, I think it's the least exciting if SMU gets
- 2:26:39Speaker 8: into the College Football Playoff. We need to have someone
- 2:26:42Speaker 8: step in and change the playoff this year SMU. If
- 2:26:45Speaker 8: they win the a CC and get in, that's horrible, But.
- 2:26:47Speaker 2: It's the most exciting because of the chaos that could
- 2:26:50Speaker 2: happen if you get this weak ACC conference, which we've
- 2:26:54Speaker 2: been saying, like say Virginia loses, Like what team should
- 2:26:57Speaker 2: actually go into the College for All Playoff from the
- 2:27:00Speaker 2: a CC.
- 2:27:02Speaker 7: None of them?
- 2:27:02Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, okay, Miami Miami then being ten and two
- 2:27:07Speaker 2: d in the year, they would have one because again
- 2:27:08Speaker 2: they beat Notre Dame had to head even though Notre Dame,
- 2:27:11Speaker 2: like Notre Dame is a good football team right now,
- 2:27:15Speaker 2: but they do have that head to head win. So
- 2:27:16Speaker 2: that's where it's like, if there's a team that does
- 2:27:18Speaker 2: come out of the a SEC would be only Miami.
- 2:27:21Speaker 2: It's like the a SEC champion, like boys, right, boys?
- 2:27:31Speaker 1: Yeah?
- 2:27:31Speaker 12: Yeah, it's kind of inhaling for more. Yeah, dude, Notre
- 2:27:40Speaker 12: Dame has been handling sevo in Syracuse.
- 2:27:43Speaker 4: But they have three They have three defensive or special
- 2:27:46Speaker 4: team touchdowns in the first quarter.
- 2:27:47Speaker 1: Did did the offense even come out for the first quarter?
- 2:27:50Speaker 4: No offense scored their fourth touchdown on the.
- 2:27:56Speaker 1: I mean, bro, that car kid is special, isn't it?
- 2:28:00Speaker 7: First first play, his first touch, his first touch?
- 2:28:03Speaker 1: Yeah, damn it?
- 2:28:05Speaker 2: What I just saw that SMU beat Miami this year's
- 2:28:10Speaker 2: kind of it kind of makes me. Yeah, chaos, man,
- 2:28:14Speaker 2: chaos four here is chaos.
- 2:28:15Speaker 1: Can I ask you a question? Can I ask you
- 2:28:18Speaker 1: a question? Yeah? What the fuck happened this past Saturday? Dude?
- 2:28:23Speaker 2: I thought we weren't recapping what thought we were talking.
- 2:28:25Speaker 2: I thought we were moving forward, buddy, Yeah, I thought
- 2:28:28Speaker 2: we were talking all this week's Slate.
- 2:28:32Speaker 1: Yeah, and we need to talk about that like that was.
- 2:28:36Speaker 1: I'll let you speak on it, thirty seven to ten
- 2:28:40Speaker 1: from beginning to end.
- 2:28:44Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll be honest, I think that it's it's on
- 2:28:49Speaker 2: my face, like I don't know, I don't know what happened,
- 2:28:52Speaker 2: Like we got shell shocks, we got our ass. Whope,
- 2:28:54Speaker 2: it was about to ask for sixty minutes sixty in
- 2:28:56Speaker 2: Happy Valley.
- 2:28:58Speaker 9: Y'all play them ten times?
- 2:28:59Speaker 2: How times you beat them? Nine?
- 2:29:01Speaker 3: That's why?
- 2:29:02Speaker 5: You know what?
- 2:29:04Speaker 1: You know what pisses me off about this too? They
- 2:29:07Speaker 1: lose Iowa. What's their record?
- 2:29:08Speaker 9: Jp?
- 2:29:09Speaker 1: Oh no, eight and four, seven and five.
- 2:29:13Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's hard to it's hard to hang your
- 2:29:15Speaker 2: head on that when we lost our quarterback to a broken.
- 2:29:16Speaker 1: Lake, no doubt, no doubt. And I literally yeah, we're
- 2:29:22Speaker 1: talking the goal post and the day after I moved
- 2:29:24Speaker 1: the goalpost, the kid breaks his leg. Like that's fucking insane.
- 2:29:29Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Look, if Dylan Riello is playing, we are
- 2:29:32Speaker 2: a too lost football team right now, going in Iowa,
- 2:29:34Speaker 2: beating Iowa, and then we are at ten and two
- 2:29:35Speaker 2: football team on the outside looking in, hoping to get
- 2:29:37Speaker 2: in the college football playoff. But we're not our quarterback
- 2:29:40Speaker 2: broke his lake. They got addictions. That is crazy for
- 2:29:45Speaker 2: the sake of predictions. But it ain't. We ain't going
- 2:29:48Speaker 2: seven to five because we about to whoop eye with this.
- 2:29:50Speaker 2: We facts so about all the years that Ohio State
- 2:29:53Speaker 2: beat up on Michigan. But this four streak win you
- 2:29:55Speaker 2: guys have been on it starts. I was our big
- 2:29:57Speaker 2: brother right now. Yeah, but it's time to grow up
- 2:30:00Speaker 2: and it's time to whoop the Iowahau guys this weekend.
- 2:30:02Speaker 2: Time to grow It's time to grow the fuck up
- 2:30:05Speaker 2: and beat the iowaha. We can't dominate them all over
- 2:30:08Speaker 2: the statute like we did last year and they have
- 2:30:09Speaker 2: like what one first down, one explosive play and they
- 2:30:11Speaker 2: win the game by what was it seven to three
- 2:30:15Speaker 2: or something like that.
- 2:30:16Speaker 1: What time is that game?
- 2:30:17Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's usually an afternoon game. Oh last year
- 2:30:23Speaker 2: was a night game. Look it's it was. It was
- 2:30:29Speaker 2: tough Saturday night and more so just like a loss
- 2:30:32Speaker 2: of words.
- 2:30:32Speaker 1: Oh, you guys spend the same time as the game.
- 2:30:34Speaker 1: Good news.
- 2:30:35Speaker 2: No, no, we're on Friday on Friday, on Friday, eleven am, Black.
- 2:30:39Speaker 1: Friday, Friday, eleven am on Friday.
- 2:30:43Speaker 2: Big ten, Big ten Conference ain't doing us no favors
- 2:30:46Speaker 2: night game and Happy Valley got to turn around quick
- 2:30:48Speaker 2: and play on Friday. Yeah, eleven am, give us the
- 2:30:53Speaker 2: white out with everybody rooting for who's the head coach
- 2:30:56Speaker 2: for Penn State?
- 2:30:56Speaker 1: Terry Smith?
- 2:30:57Speaker 2: Terry Smith, Like, I don't know, I can give you
- 2:31:01Speaker 2: all these situations in the world. Penn State being motivated,
- 2:31:03Speaker 2: Like that's a team you don't want to see play
- 2:31:05Speaker 2: at the end of the year right now because they
- 2:31:06Speaker 2: finally caught their lick. They're finally gaining some momentum. Like
- 2:31:09Speaker 2: that top five roster in college football, that roster is
- 2:31:12Speaker 2: the one that showed up. Like to me, that was
- 2:31:14Speaker 2: the we played the team before Oregon took their soul,
- 2:31:17Speaker 2: Like that was the Penn State team we unfortunately played
- 2:31:19Speaker 2: without our starting quarterback because he broke his leg.
- 2:31:21Speaker 4: Teams like Penn State where they fired their head coach,
- 2:31:23Speaker 4: those kids are playing to stay on the team for
- 2:31:26Speaker 4: the next head coach that comes in. You saw it
- 2:31:28Speaker 4: with Virginia Tech played their ass off knowing that the
- 2:31:31Speaker 4: new ball coach is on the sideline.
- 2:31:33Speaker 2: Hey, I want to be here.
- 2:31:35Speaker 5: That's what happened.
- 2:31:37Speaker 2: I mean, Buddy, Texas, that's when legitimately when it got
- 2:31:42Speaker 2: over right off the TV and just like how you
- 2:31:44Speaker 2: feel like, it doesn't matter how I feel like. There's
- 2:31:47Speaker 2: truly like I'm bleeding. There's no time to bleed because
- 2:31:50Speaker 2: you have to as fast as you possibly can get
- 2:31:53Speaker 2: your eyes on Iowa. Like that one. It's like, fuck it,
- 2:31:56Speaker 2: we got whooped right there. We can't sit here and
- 2:31:58Speaker 2: question everything going on. We took, we took an ass beat.
- 2:32:02Speaker 2: We have got to focus on Iowa. You throw everything
- 2:32:04Speaker 2: in the trash from that Penn State game because there,
- 2:32:06Speaker 2: you know, you look at it there. We we ain't
- 2:32:07Speaker 2: sitting there. That's kind of a meaningless football game, like
- 2:32:10Speaker 2: we're out of the when we lost the USC, our
- 2:32:12Speaker 2: playoff hopes are out of it. So they kind of
- 2:32:14Speaker 2: caught us off a bye week, licking our wounds and
- 2:32:16Speaker 2: not not having a whole lot to play for. You
- 2:32:18Speaker 2: lose the Penn State, but this one the border Iowa.
- 2:32:21Speaker 2: You have to have this game because you we we
- 2:32:26Speaker 2: end up seven and five.
- 2:32:27Speaker 1: We we you end up seven and five, like but again,
- 2:32:34Speaker 1: you got next year. No, no, no, I'm not I'm
- 2:32:38Speaker 1: not even going I'm not going down that for the quarterback.
- 2:32:40Speaker 1: I'm not going down that road. No, No, I agree,
- 2:32:42Speaker 1: I agree. I'm saying I'm taking back what I said.
- 2:32:44Speaker 1: I'm not going down that road onward. You lost your quarterback.
- 2:32:47Speaker 1: That's why you guys lost. I'll buy it. I'll move on.
- 2:32:51Speaker 1: And that's to say this game didn't matter is fucking insane.
- 2:32:55Speaker 9: But but as it's right now, this matchup on Friday
- 2:32:59Speaker 9: is the biggest game and coach Rule's career at Nebraska.
- 2:33:02Speaker 1: It's the biggest game taking place on Friday. There's no
- 2:33:05Speaker 1: doubt about that.
- 2:33:06Speaker 2: It's the biggest game of his coaching career.
- 2:33:11Speaker 3: He knows that.
- 2:33:12Speaker 2: Nobody knows it better than him. Yeah, this team knows it.
- 2:33:15Speaker 1: Hold on, there's a trans perfect music city Bowl, dude,
- 2:33:20Speaker 1: Nebraska versus LSU.
- 2:33:23Speaker 2: Look, I'm not thinking about nothing else except the Iowaha guys. Nothing.
- 2:33:28Speaker 2: I don't know how the bowl game situations play. I
- 2:33:30Speaker 2: know we're Bowl eligible. Everybody's going to be chomping at
- 2:33:32Speaker 2: the bit to get the Lincoln Nebraska traveling wherever their
- 2:33:35Speaker 2: city is. But I'm not thinking about any Bowl games
- 2:33:37Speaker 2: right now. It is all Iowaha guys, like they are
- 2:33:41Speaker 2: salivating off of that ass beating the people that came
- 2:33:45Speaker 2: knocking at my door on social media with the Chiefs
- 2:33:48Speaker 2: with Nebraska game pummeled all of it. Bro, people are
- 2:33:52Speaker 2: salivating for Willie c to be six feet in the
- 2:33:54Speaker 2: ground this Friday.
- 2:33:57Speaker 1: Yeah they are, Dude. I nexted will during the first drive.
- 2:34:02Speaker 1: Oh really, hold on, We'll go to a second. During
- 2:34:04Speaker 1: the first drive in Nebraska, they get down to the
- 2:34:06Speaker 1: one yard line, they go for it and fourth down.
- 2:34:07Speaker 1: I text, well, my a, it sucks, but that's the
- 2:34:09Speaker 1: right call. Was like, god, take the points. They text
- 2:34:12Speaker 1: me the text was great run because had a big run.
- 2:34:16Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a great run. But Yo,
- 2:34:19Speaker 1: you can't get excited. I'm taking the same thing that
- 2:34:21Speaker 1: Jack and Jack about the Tennessee game. I had great
- 2:34:24Speaker 1: first drive, both of them a lot of ball left.
- 2:34:25Speaker 1: I'm like, bro, you can't just be excited about a
- 2:34:28Speaker 1: first drive. That's crazy. Boys, You've got to take the duves.
- 2:34:32Speaker 1: That's crazy. Think think Friday, Old Miss Mississippi State, George, Georgia, Tech,
- 2:34:41Speaker 1: Texas A and M Texas. Yeah, is that the game
- 2:34:46Speaker 1: is Nebraska Iowa? The biggest game on Saturday, the only
- 2:34:52Speaker 1: game that fucking.
- 2:34:53Speaker 7: Matters Tennessee on Saturday.
- 2:34:59Speaker 1: Yeah thirty, I mean, buddy, well he gets it.
- 2:35:07Speaker 4: God yeah, probably the most hostile environment.
- 2:35:15Speaker 1: But hey, just to go back to the text real quick.
- 2:35:16Speaker 1: After the we start talking about that first drive, and
- 2:35:19Speaker 1: then I I'm watching like four games and I kind
- 2:35:22Speaker 1: of peek over and I say that Penn Stations kind
- 2:35:24Speaker 1: of running away with it, and I pulled your number
- 2:35:27Speaker 1: up to like shoot your text. I'm like, it doesn't
- 2:35:29Speaker 1: even matter, bro, Like, just leave this one alone. Yeah,
- 2:35:32Speaker 1: it's gonna go get leave it to Monday. We'll just
- 2:35:35Speaker 1: talk about it on Monday.
- 2:35:35Speaker 2: When you're You're like, you're just watching your game, Like
- 2:35:38Speaker 2: all that all that matters is you and that fox
- 2:35:40Speaker 2: are watching the game, whether something good's happening, whether something's
- 2:35:43Speaker 2: bad happening. We know no matter what, it's a sixty
- 2:35:45Speaker 2: minute ball game. There's nothing that's like even the good
- 2:35:48Speaker 2: run thing, It's like, hell, you know what what, there's
- 2:35:51Speaker 2: nothing that's like, uh, did you cli when that one happened? Yeah?
- 2:35:54Speaker 2: I stood one like fucking going right.
- 2:35:56Speaker 1: That was me texting and being in the room with
- 2:35:58Speaker 1: you going let's fucking go. The same thing with the
- 2:36:00Speaker 1: first drive. I'm sitting every yo, I gotta be my boy. Yeah, Hey, great,
- 2:36:04Speaker 1: great run. You guys don't know. You guys, just take
- 2:36:08Speaker 1: her insane right now, no doubt. Like, if you don't
- 2:36:12Speaker 1: text me back, that's all good. I'm just saying, Hey,
- 2:36:13Speaker 1: I'm in the room with you. I'm watching the game
- 2:36:14Speaker 1: with you right now. Don't you don't have to text
- 2:36:16Speaker 1: me back. But to be like, don't it don't matter.
- 2:36:19Speaker 2: It's like there's nothing score points to win the game.
- 2:36:22Speaker 1: Points matter, But when you score point, get excited.
- 2:36:24Speaker 2: It's better. It's like, uh, you score more points, Like
- 2:36:28Speaker 2: sh I'm in text before the game. We're all Huskers
- 2:36:30Speaker 2: to night, and it's like that's that's all. Like, you know,
- 2:36:33Speaker 2: he sees the ass will been going on. He might
- 2:36:35Speaker 2: see that pop run play at the beginning, but I
- 2:36:37Speaker 2: already got it. It's like you get something before the game. Hey,
- 2:36:39Speaker 2: we're all Huskers the night. We're on the Okay, I know,
- 2:36:41Speaker 2: I know everybody's like rooting for Nebraska to win. But
- 2:36:44Speaker 2: it's like, you know when you have one big run
- 2:36:46Speaker 2: and it's the first drive and it's like, hey, great run.
- 2:36:48Speaker 2: Like I don't know how to react to I see that.
- 2:36:50Speaker 2: I'm just like, yeah, yeah, it was a great run, right,
- 2:36:53Speaker 2: you know what I mean?
- 2:36:54Speaker 1: No, but go ahead, No, do you guys know what
- 2:36:57Speaker 1: I mean?
- 2:36:57Speaker 2: I know what you mean?
- 2:36:59Speaker 1: Ever to you guys during the game again, All good, well,
- 2:37:02Speaker 1: all good. I swear to God, even Jack and Chef
- 2:37:05Speaker 1: over here. Dude, it's like, I can't wait to hear
- 2:37:14Speaker 1: this is God.
- 2:37:16Speaker 5: It's shame.
- 2:37:18Speaker 2: No, it's George kitt On letting her know we're gonna
- 2:37:20Speaker 2: beat their ass this week before he plays on Monday
- 2:37:21Speaker 2: night tonight. Get him off the game. Yeah, he's probably
- 2:37:25Speaker 2: focused right now.
- 2:37:28Speaker 1: You can leave, You can leave like a little voice
- 2:37:29Speaker 1: video though long mm hmmm, Jack, you gotta George.
- 2:37:42Speaker 2: You might be getting ready for your game tonight, but
- 2:37:44Speaker 2: I just want you to know Nebraska is gonna stop
- 2:37:47Speaker 2: a modole in your ass this Friday at eleven eleven am.
- 2:37:50Speaker 2: I hope you catch a lot of balls tonight, but
- 2:37:52Speaker 2: just know Nebraska is coming for your ass.
- 2:37:57Speaker 7: Jack.
- 2:37:57Speaker 1: You gotta feel like this is probably the most nervous
- 2:37:59Speaker 1: you've been for a Vandy game in a long time.
- 2:38:00Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, definitely. But I mean, Vanni fans on Twitter
- 2:38:04Speaker 6: saying this is our super Bowl and this is quite
- 2:38:06Speaker 6: literally the biggest game for Vandy in the last forty years,
- 2:38:10Speaker 6: and they're on Twitter talking shit, saying.
- 2:38:12Speaker 2: Man, this is y'all.
- 2:38:13Speaker 6: It's like, yo, y'all finally have something to live for,
- 2:38:17Speaker 6: a Heisman candidate and a potential winning in and you're
- 2:38:21Speaker 6: saying this is our best game. It's like you're gonna
- 2:38:23Speaker 6: come in to the loudest environment in college football after
- 2:38:27Speaker 6: talking so much shit all season. It's getting to the
- 2:38:30Speaker 6: point too, where the general consensus is starting to turn
- 2:38:33Speaker 6: on the Pavia family. They're very annoying online. His mom's
- 2:38:38Speaker 6: riding the rail at the game, literally like cowgirling it,
- 2:38:42Speaker 6: wearing the skimpiest outfit possible. She looks like a girl
- 2:38:46Speaker 6: looks down on Broadway at three am, just trying to
- 2:38:48Speaker 6: find a ride home. I mean, no, I know, but
- 2:38:52Speaker 6: I'm just I'm just saying, you see what Joey Aguilar's
- 2:38:55Speaker 6: mom's doing. Just the sweetheart of Tennessee football. It's gonna
- 2:38:59Speaker 6: be fun. I'm very nervous because if we lose, Vandy
- 2:39:02Speaker 6: has this over us for not even just the next
- 2:39:05Speaker 6: three hundred and sixty five days, but for a foreseeable future.
- 2:39:10Speaker 6: I'm not worried for the team. We played great against
- 2:39:12Speaker 6: obviously a shitty Florida team, but if you know, historically
- 2:39:15Speaker 6: de Valls have never been able to put it together
- 2:39:18Speaker 6: in the swamp. We went down there and kicked the
- 2:39:20Speaker 6: shit out of them. The Clump curse is real. Clump
- 2:39:23Speaker 6: is also once again campaigning for Vandy to win, saying
- 2:39:27Speaker 6: that they're gonna beat the shit out of us. So
- 2:39:30Speaker 6: just know, Vandy fans, when you guys come to Kneeland
- 2:39:32Speaker 6: and get your dick kicked in, you know who to blame.
- 2:39:35Speaker 6: It's Jeremy Clump. He claims to be a Florida fan.
- 2:39:38Speaker 6: He claims to be a Vandy fan. He claims to
- 2:39:40Speaker 6: be every fan except for the team that he chose
- 2:39:42Speaker 6: to be a fan of, starting when he moved to Nashville, Tennessee.
- 2:39:45Speaker 5: I'm very excited, though.
- 2:39:47Speaker 1: This photo of Clump is crazy. That is awesome JV football.
- 2:39:51Speaker 1: If you're college athletics. She still does his eyes to
- 2:39:54Speaker 1: the very yeah, very nervous.
- 2:39:55Speaker 6: It will be fireworks.
- 2:39:58Speaker 2: We'll see what happens, because they're gonna be ten and
- 2:40:00Speaker 2: two and they could potentially be out of the college
- 2:40:03Speaker 2: will playoff, Yeah, especially you see Texas fans out there.
- 2:40:12Speaker 2: If they beat take down A and M, do they
- 2:40:14Speaker 2: have a have a resume to get in the playoffs?
- 2:40:18Speaker 2: Who you guys, got in the Heisman.
- 2:40:21Speaker 1: Not Diego Pavio, Jeremiah Love my original pick who's now
- 2:40:25Speaker 1: number two and the odds.
- 2:40:29Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think Jeremiah, Like if there were
- 2:40:31Speaker 2: if I could grab three'd be frien Aa Mendoz would
- 2:40:33Speaker 2: be Diego Pavian to be Jeremiah.
- 2:40:35Speaker 1: Love you go You're out on Uh was it Rodriguez?
- 2:40:38Speaker 2: I'm not out. I think he's just on the out.
- 2:40:40Speaker 2: I think he's on the outside looking in. I do
- 2:40:42Speaker 2: think that that's a dude to where like when I'm
- 2:40:44Speaker 2: thinking about the Heisman, it's when all the success of
- 2:40:48Speaker 2: these teams, how they've had kind of throughout the season,
- 2:40:50Speaker 2: and there comes to be the storylines that come from
- 2:40:52Speaker 2: these teams with these guys that were talking about like
- 2:40:55Speaker 2: they are the storyline, Like like Texas Tech, I when
- 2:40:59Speaker 2: Texas Tech's playing it, I want to turn it on
- 2:41:01Speaker 2: to see if Jacob Rodriguez makes his splash play. And
- 2:41:03Speaker 2: in the last game since he's been on, he has
- 2:41:05Speaker 2: like they were on a bye week this week, did Indiana?
- 2:41:08Speaker 2: They have a bye week as well, so for Nana
- 2:41:11Speaker 2: wentn't on it and I think they played Perdue this weekend.
- 2:41:13Speaker 2: I think Diego Pave is on a Heisman spot here
- 2:41:15Speaker 2: playing against Tennessee. I think, who does Notre Dame have
- 2:41:18Speaker 2: this weekend?
- 2:41:20Speaker 7: Stanford Stanford.
- 2:41:22Speaker 2: Yeah, that's kind of a cupcake. But either way, Jeremiah Love,
- 2:41:25Speaker 2: you turn like you go you watch Notre Dame football
- 2:41:28Speaker 2: because you want to see what highlights come of Jeremiah Love,
- 2:41:30Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Like absolutely, Julian Saying, I
- 2:41:32Speaker 2: think he has he has like a stat line, but
- 2:41:34Speaker 2: I think he's more of like a product of the
- 2:41:35Speaker 2: system or.
- 2:41:36Speaker 1: The team show. I mean the Rutgers game, what was
- 2:41:39Speaker 1: the stat line? I think he was ten percent.
- 2:41:41Speaker 2: He had like less than one hundred and fifty yards.
- 2:41:42Speaker 1: Yeah, which they I think they were. They were trying
- 2:41:45Speaker 1: to run the ball more and establish a run game
- 2:41:47Speaker 1: and kind of get out that way.
- 2:41:48Speaker 2: And I think Julian Saying is an awesome player. I
- 2:41:50Speaker 2: think Marcel Reid's an awesome player too. Who's another gunner
- 2:41:53Speaker 2: stocked him? I think he's an awesome player. But I
- 2:41:55Speaker 2: feel like I tuned into Georgia to watch the Georgia Bulloks.
- 2:41:58Speaker 2: I tune into Ohio State to watch Ohio State. If
- 2:42:00Speaker 2: I'm tuning into a house eate, it's like I'm wanting
- 2:42:01Speaker 2: to watch Jeremiah Smith be out there with the alien.
- 2:42:04Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Cardeal Tate, But those other guys, I feel
- 2:42:08Speaker 2: like they are the story of their program. And Jeremiah
- 2:42:12Speaker 2: love Is He's the most versatile, most dynamic back or
- 2:42:16Speaker 2: dynamic player in all of college football. Diego Pavi is
- 2:42:19Speaker 2: just he's going. He's got a Heisman moment coming up
- 2:42:21Speaker 2: with Tennessee. What do you have? Over five hundred total
- 2:42:23Speaker 2: yards in like six touchdowns this last weekend. He's been
- 2:42:26Speaker 2: the reason you tune in to watch Vanderbilt football over
- 2:42:28Speaker 2: the last two seasons. And I think Mendoza the the
- 2:42:31Speaker 2: season that he's had with just again being Indiana. He
- 2:42:34Speaker 2: is the focal point. He's on all these podcasts, now
- 2:42:35Speaker 2: breaking down Converagence. People are fall in love with him,
- 2:42:38Speaker 2: like he's the guy when you think of Indiana. So
- 2:42:40Speaker 2: those to me, that's why I kind of have those three.
- 2:42:42Speaker 2: Jacob Arrigae, I just think it's gonna be hard for
- 2:42:44Speaker 2: a defensive player to win unless he makes a couple
- 2:42:47Speaker 2: of splash plays, which he could, which is if I'm
- 2:42:49Speaker 2: watching Texas Tech this weekend, it's because I'm wanting to
- 2:42:52Speaker 2: see if Jacob Barriguez mix a play. So that's why
- 2:42:55Speaker 2: I kind of have my Heisman, Like when I'm looking
- 2:42:57Speaker 2: at if I had.
- 2:42:57Speaker 1: A watching the team, watching the player, Yeah, that's the
- 2:43:00Speaker 1: first ket and then how good is that player playing?
- 2:43:02Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, no, I like that.
- 2:43:03Speaker 1: I like that.
- 2:43:04Speaker 7: Can I read some stats pretty quick for Jeremiah Love? Ye,
- 2:43:07Speaker 7: get your reaction.
- 2:43:07Speaker 8: Yes, twoy six hundred and one rushing yards, twenty nine touchdowns.
- 2:43:13Speaker 8: Impressive stats. Those are Ashton Gentis last year and he
- 2:43:16Speaker 8: did not win the Heisman Trophy. Jeremiah Love only has
- 2:43:20Speaker 8: thirteen hundred rushing yards and seventeen touchdowns this year. That
- 2:43:24Speaker 8: is crazy if he would win the Heisman Trophy this year.
- 2:43:26Speaker 8: And I want jeremih Love to win that.
- 2:43:28Speaker 1: Yeah, that's so. I thought this is going to be
- 2:43:30Speaker 1: a complete opposite. That would be stat.
- 2:43:33Speaker 7: Line insane to me for him to win the Heisman Trophy.
- 2:43:35Speaker 8: So, in my opinion, if Diego Pavia does what we
- 2:43:38Speaker 8: all know he will do, go to Knoxville and beat
- 2:43:40Speaker 8: the shit out of Tennessee, Diego Pavia should win the
- 2:43:43Speaker 8: Heisman Trophy based off of elevating his team the most
- 2:43:47Speaker 8: stats all of it. So to me, Jeremiah Love's fun
- 2:43:50Speaker 8: because we you know, picking to start the year.
- 2:43:53Speaker 7: But it's got to be Diego Pavi.
- 2:43:54Speaker 1: If Diego Pavia has the game, your claiming he's going
- 2:43:56Speaker 1: to have? Is he clearly over Fernanda Mendoza over? I
- 2:44:00Speaker 1: mean Jeremiah Love. It sounds like the stats aren't there.
- 2:44:03Speaker 1: I think, is that the clear winner?
- 2:44:04Speaker 9: Now?
- 2:44:04Speaker 7: I think, what was it you met?
- 2:44:06Speaker 8: You said like Fernando Mendoz would be almost the most
- 2:44:08Speaker 8: boring Heisman Trophy winner ever in my opinion.
- 2:44:11Speaker 7: Yeah, it's got to Diego for excitement.
- 2:44:13Speaker 2: I could buy that. And Jeremiah Love too. It's more
- 2:44:15Speaker 2: of just he seems like the best player in college football,
- 2:44:19Speaker 2: Like he's the most talented cat, like playing the game
- 2:44:22Speaker 2: and to see see all these highlights that he has
- 2:44:24Speaker 2: and everything else. It's almost like that feeling that you
- 2:44:26Speaker 2: have watching Jeremiah Love versus like the stat line everything else.
- 2:44:29Speaker 2: Who wanted who won it last year? Travis Hunter? I
- 2:44:32Speaker 2: mean I get it with Ashton Genty, like he stats
- 2:44:36Speaker 2: everything else. If he did that at like a power,
- 2:44:38Speaker 2: if you did that here, if you did that this
- 2:44:39Speaker 2: year right right, like you would see it more.
- 2:44:45Speaker 7: Almost what a thousand yards? Yeah, they're thirteen hundred, but
- 2:44:51Speaker 7: yeah he is.
- 2:44:52Speaker 2: He leads done, he leads the nation Jeremiah Love and
- 2:44:54Speaker 2: the yards from scrimmage.
- 2:44:56Speaker 7: I think he leads in rushing yards.
- 2:45:00Speaker 2: Yeah, it's he's fun to watch, but I see what
- 2:45:03Speaker 2: you mean to me if if Diego Pavia has four touchdowns,
- 2:45:05Speaker 2: he gets a win against Tennessee, like, it's gonna be
- 2:45:08Speaker 2: hard not to not to look at the Diego Pavia
- 2:45:11Speaker 2: like over like what he's done for this program of
- 2:45:13Speaker 2: Vanderbilt and not give him a Heisman.
- 2:45:15Speaker 1: True, that program is maybe bull eligible without Diego Pavia.
- 2:45:21Speaker 7: It doesn't.
- 2:45:21Speaker 2: The Heisman win is the ceremony. It happens after the
- 2:45:25Speaker 2: championship games. Yeah, yeah, so Mendozo will have an opportunity
- 2:45:28Speaker 2: against Ohio State defensive Ohio State beats Michigan this weekend,
- 2:45:31Speaker 2: or whoever, if it's Oregon, like he'll have why he's
- 2:45:34Speaker 2: already beat Oregan, but he'll have like a championship moment
- 2:45:37Speaker 2: to where he could put that last one. Because again
- 2:45:38Speaker 2: it's like he's got Purdue this weekend when it comes
- 2:45:41Speaker 2: to boring him leading and having boring everything else, Like
- 2:45:44Speaker 2: I I can.
- 2:45:44Speaker 3: See that for sure, he'll have another He'll have another
- 2:45:46Speaker 3: game to like not boost stats, but yeah, show like
- 2:45:51Speaker 3: show have the opportunity to show what he's like capable
- 2:45:53Speaker 3: of and like maybe have that Heisman moment was two
- 2:45:57Speaker 3: weeks ago.
- 2:45:59Speaker 2: Hard has more rushing yards. A. Mott Hardy's a monster.
- 2:46:03Speaker 2: Monster A Mott Hardy's a monster.
- 2:46:05Speaker 1: I wonder why Mott Hardy's not more in the conversation
- 2:46:08Speaker 1: then because the team.
- 2:46:09Speaker 2: The Yeah, again, it's like you'll have all this team
- 2:46:12Speaker 2: success the way Notre Dames and playing the back half
- 2:46:14Speaker 2: of the year of the way Vandy's played all season long.
- 2:46:20Speaker 2: For Nano Mendoza, it's just like the success of their team.
- 2:46:23Speaker 2: Mazoo kind of doesn't have that following them, especially again
- 2:46:26Speaker 2: you lose over the weekend to Oklahoma. Yeah, it is nuts.
- 2:46:31Speaker 9: Amad Hardy has one hundred more rushing yards and has
- 2:46:33Speaker 9: only scored two less touchdowns.
- 2:46:36Speaker 2: Yeah, and no, Mott Hardy's a monster.
- 2:46:39Speaker 9: Yeah and has I guess he has a few more carries.
- 2:46:41Speaker 3: But you got hurt.
- 2:46:43Speaker 2: Yeah, but you're going off these uh, these guys that
- 2:46:46Speaker 2: are in the race that it's like the temperature of
- 2:46:48Speaker 2: their team, like they are setting the temperature and you're like,
- 2:46:51Speaker 2: all these guys, I don't care who you have front
- 2:46:53Speaker 2: runner first, second, third, fourth, whatever. It's just like all
- 2:46:56Speaker 2: these guys, I think set are set up perfectly for
- 2:46:58Speaker 2: these last couple of weeks for who's gonna rise and
- 2:47:00Speaker 2: be the guy that comes out of it. And to me,
- 2:47:03Speaker 2: whatever happens in these last two weeks, it's like those
- 2:47:05Speaker 2: that guy is gonna clearly be the Heisman winner.
- 2:47:10Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a great time, but the only thing that
- 2:47:11Speaker 1: really matters is a hot of state Michigan. All those
- 2:47:14Speaker 1: things he could, yeah those for three hundred yards four touchdowns,
- 2:47:21Speaker 1: like get him an invite?
- 2:47:24Speaker 5: Oh?
- 2:47:24Speaker 1: Buy?
- 2:47:25Speaker 2: Were you about to be this weekend? JP was South
- 2:47:27Speaker 2: Carolina Clemson be in the stadium in the missus going yeah, yeah,
- 2:47:31Speaker 2: I gotta go.
- 2:47:32Speaker 9: It's the rival sitting sitting hate week right now, sitting'ce
- 2:47:35Speaker 9: my wife, she went to Clemson. You know it's one
- 2:47:39Speaker 9: Saturday hits. We step on that field, the game's changed. Yeah,
- 2:47:43Speaker 9: we're out exactly. Once we're between those white lines. Anything
- 2:47:47Speaker 9: goes but taking off the ring, putting in the pocket.
- 2:47:51Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 2:47:51Speaker 9: But it's cool because I like when we posted last
- 2:47:54Speaker 9: week the tiger burn that we do, it was packed out.
- 2:47:58Speaker 2: All of the students there.
- 2:47:59Speaker 9: We light a massive Tiger on fire, and it's just
- 2:48:02Speaker 9: a testament to the fan base of at that time
- 2:48:05Speaker 9: we had still we'd only want three games and everyone
- 2:48:08Speaker 9: shows up. You look at the game this past week,
- 2:48:10Speaker 9: we're playing Coastal, nothing to cheer about in the stadium's full.
- 2:48:14Speaker 9: It's like, that's why game cognition is special. And I
- 2:48:17Speaker 9: can't wait to be a part of it one last
- 2:48:19Speaker 9: time this season because I'll tell you what next year.
- 2:48:24Speaker 1: I did see the clip of that tier burn Dude,
- 2:48:26Speaker 1: that was sick.
- 2:48:26Speaker 2: They do a great job building that thing too, where
- 2:48:30Speaker 2: you guys think Lane Kiffin's going.
- 2:48:32Speaker 1: Staying home, say I like that chef ship Yeah, chef
- 2:48:37Speaker 1: texting what an hour it's gonna break?
- 2:48:40Speaker 2: I was just, oh, ship our boys. Chef. He sent
- 2:48:43Speaker 2: the group chat a screenshot, just being like, I got
- 2:48:45Speaker 2: a friend that's kind of close. It's close to the program.
- 2:48:49Speaker 2: Lane Kiff and the l s U. Within an hour, Yeah, yeah,
- 2:48:52Speaker 2: within an hour. This was on Saturday.
- 2:48:55Speaker 1: He's gonna coach. He's gonna coach at a bowl. They're
- 2:48:58Speaker 1: not getting the answer they.
- 2:48:59Speaker 2: Want coach Beamer.
- 2:49:00Speaker 9: He was he he was saying that Lane Kiffin is
- 2:49:02Speaker 9: gonna have like the three hat set up like the
- 2:49:05Speaker 9: players used to do.
- 2:49:06Speaker 1: Would not Yeah, would not be be hilarious?
- 2:49:10Speaker 2: Should They're saying he's gonna announce what within the hour
- 2:49:13Speaker 2: after the Egg Bowl? What's gonna happen? He's got right,
- 2:49:19Speaker 2: that would.
- 2:49:19Speaker 1: Be awesome for him. Mistake. I hope he does stay.
- 2:49:23Speaker 1: Clump's done an.
- 2:49:26Speaker 8: Yeah that it is fun to see, like the flight
- 2:49:30Speaker 8: tracker back again. And then Florida canceled their volleyball games,
- 2:49:33Speaker 8: so they're like, oh, they're announcing Lane Kiffin. Like all
- 2:49:35Speaker 8: the conspiracy theories. I feel like that's always so fun
- 2:49:37Speaker 8: that college football's got that. So what Lane is doing
- 2:49:40Speaker 8: is good for college football. And then Josh pat is
- 2:49:44Speaker 8: trolling the world. He tweeted that he knows for Lane's coaching.
- 2:49:46Speaker 1: Next unnecessary crazy move, unnecessary.
- 2:49:52Speaker 4: That just started posting like oh no dot, and people
- 2:49:57Speaker 4: are like, good dude, don't do this. We know today
- 2:50:00Speaker 4: everyone is just sending tweets reaction.
- 2:50:03Speaker 1: That's funny.
- 2:50:04Speaker 2: Coops. What was that coop who sent that tweet? Josh
- 2:50:07Speaker 2: Pay's tweet in the group chat. I don't think it,
- 2:50:11Speaker 2: oh ship, he knows if Lane stayed him? Yeah, where's
- 2:50:15Speaker 2: he going? Yeah?
- 2:50:17Speaker 1: Crazy going?
- 2:50:19Speaker 4: Yeah if Lane stays, who does who do they seriously
- 2:50:21Speaker 4: go after? Now Florida and L s U. There's so
- 2:50:24Speaker 4: many jobs things.
- 2:50:25Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, it's a it's unless you know your
- 2:50:28Speaker 1: guy is it's a bad time to go.
- 2:50:30Speaker 7: I have a little wrinkle for Florida if they don't
- 2:50:32Speaker 7: get Lane Golish, Chip Kelly, Enjoy, Chip Kelly.
- 2:50:39Speaker 2: Did just get fired Chip Kelly get back in the college?
- 2:50:43Speaker 2: Chip another Kelly? Yeah, honestly.
- 2:50:49Speaker 7: That that was crazy.
- 2:50:52Speaker 8: If it's true, If if what he said is true
- 2:50:55Speaker 8: that L s U like powers wouldn't let Brian Kelly
- 2:50:58Speaker 8: walk him out on senior Day, that's kind of crazy,
- 2:51:00Speaker 8: don't you think? Am I wrong to think that no
- 2:51:02Speaker 8: matter how much bad blood there is, lawsuit whatever, there
- 2:51:05Speaker 8: was like him not being able to walk his son out.
- 2:51:07Speaker 4: Yeah, they probably were worried about like booing and stuff.
- 2:51:11Speaker 2: Still, to me, what was he saying to the camera
- 2:51:14Speaker 2: when he was pulling the shirt up? My boy, long lived,
- 2:51:18Speaker 2: b case free my boy, free my boy.
- 2:51:23Speaker 9: He was, but he was trying to go at Megan
- 2:51:26Speaker 9: making money? Was he this past week on some bull
- 2:51:29Speaker 9: crap his son? And he was like, oh, like, I'll
- 2:51:34Speaker 9: send the d MS of you trying to like get
- 2:51:36Speaker 9: merch or like basically get clout. Yeah, meet my dad
- 2:51:39Speaker 9: and he drops the d ms and they were the
- 2:51:42Speaker 9: most nothing Burger dms ever where She was like or
- 2:51:46Speaker 9: he was like, hey, we need to get you in
- 2:51:47Speaker 9: this merch. She's like, yeah, send it and he posts
- 2:51:50Speaker 9: it was like your corny. She's like, what are you
- 2:51:52Speaker 9: talking about? It's why your dad didn't run you out
- 2:51:55Speaker 9: on the field. I'm all the way out on Brian KM.
- 2:52:01Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm kind of with you on b K. I'm
- 2:52:03Speaker 1: done with that. I think he just goes home. Who
- 2:52:08Speaker 1: knows Man Arkansas that.
- 2:52:11Speaker 2: Whenever I did, uh.
- 2:52:14Speaker 9: Yeah, pay says everyone's getting coach Man.
- 2:52:17Speaker 1: Payton had some crazy things about remember Lincoln Riley just
- 2:52:22Speaker 1: fucking threw their grenade out there.
- 2:52:24Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 2:52:25Speaker 1: Yeah, he said a lot of stuff, that's all he said.
- 2:52:28Speaker 2: When I texted Paid, I was like, where's he going?
- 2:52:30Speaker 2: He said, When people tell you link Kiffin is the
- 2:52:32Speaker 2: world's best roll, always remember there's at least one better.
- 2:52:36Speaker 2: What shiitt he is?
- 2:52:37Speaker 1: That's the exact text he sent me back. Yeah, what
- 2:52:42Speaker 1: else we got? Boys? Michigan Ohio State biggest game, the
- 2:52:48Speaker 1: biggest game of the year, of the the world.
- 2:52:52Speaker 2: I think Uh, I think Texas gets A and M.
- 2:52:55Speaker 2: I think Texas gets I can see that for sure.
- 2:52:59Speaker 1: Yeah, awesome, Yeah, thats chaos.
- 2:53:04Speaker 2: It just like just fan bases being allowed, you know,
- 2:53:09Speaker 2: arguing schedules.
- 2:53:12Speaker 1: That we belong in the playoffs.
- 2:53:14Speaker 2: Yeah, and you don't.
- 2:53:17Speaker 7: Yeh talked about was it that all their losses are
- 2:53:20Speaker 7: top ten teams or something? Is that what he was saying.
- 2:53:23Speaker 8: Yeah, when they played on they were all top ten
- 2:53:25Speaker 8: and they beat three top ten teams. I believe they're like,
- 2:53:28Speaker 8: they have the most top ten wins this year. So
- 2:53:30Speaker 8: if they do B, A and M, they'd have four
- 2:53:31Speaker 8: top ten wins. I think that's what it was. They
- 2:53:35Speaker 8: beat Vandy when they were top ten. Uh yeah, but
- 2:53:38Speaker 8: that's what I mean. When they when they played they
- 2:53:39Speaker 8: were top ten, Oklahoma was top ten. I believe when
- 2:53:42Speaker 8: they played right for red River. Is there one other one?
- 2:53:45Speaker 2: I respect all the frameworks people figure out to get
- 2:53:48Speaker 2: their team to playoffs? Yeah, yeah, because then there's one
- 2:53:54Speaker 2: there's one framework that comes along that just kind of
- 2:53:56Speaker 2: thinking of I mean, this is this can be true.
- 2:54:00Speaker 2: Somebody else kills them and they're like, oh yeah, yeah,
- 2:54:02Speaker 2: they're right too.
- 2:54:05Speaker 1: You know, they got it. We feel good boys. Big
- 2:54:08Speaker 1: week of college football, the biggest week of college football.
- 2:54:11Speaker 2: Imagine Georgia Tech slips, our sneaks on Georgia.
- 2:54:17Speaker 1: Just wild.
- 2:54:19Speaker 2: Slips a little jab on Georgia.
- 2:54:22Speaker 1: Georgia is not falling falling out.
- 2:54:24Speaker 7: If v Andy beats Tennessee, Yeah, that'd be a tough one.
- 2:54:31Speaker 1: Andy, So interesting to me, did that game?
- 2:54:33Speaker 2: Georgia would fall out if they lost Georgia Tech because
- 2:54:35Speaker 2: they'd be a three loss SEC team. Yeah, yeah, they
- 2:54:38Speaker 2: fall out of it. Oh wait, no, no, no, they
- 2:54:42Speaker 2: beat They beat Tennessee too. Yeah they only have one. Yeah. God,
- 2:54:46Speaker 2: I kind of want to see it, just to see
- 2:54:48Speaker 2: the chaos.
- 2:54:49Speaker 1: I know you do. Yeah, I don't care what happens
- 2:54:53Speaker 1: this week with anybody's team, but Michigan.
- 2:54:56Speaker 2: Yeah, the game's gonna be awesome to watch. It is
- 2:55:00Speaker 2: gonna be awesome.
- 2:55:00Speaker 1: And there's a world we can blow them out. There's
- 2:55:02Speaker 1: a world and that vice versa world also lips, but
- 2:55:05Speaker 1: I'm just saying there's a world. Double digitch.
- 2:55:10Speaker 8: Who's everyone got in the game, Michigan, Ohio State. I'll
- 2:55:13Speaker 8: thank you guys because you're a locker room. But back
- 2:55:16Speaker 8: of the bus, guys, who do we got I'll go first,
- 2:55:19Speaker 8: Michigan money line. Bryce Underwood will show that college football
- 2:55:24Speaker 8: is different. You can go out and buy a player
- 2:55:26Speaker 8: and it will help your team. No, it'll change college
- 2:55:29Speaker 8: football landscape for a lot of teams. Bryce Underwood legacy game.
- 2:55:35Speaker 2: Go Blue.
- 2:55:38Speaker 3: I'm obviously o High State, all.
- 2:55:40Speaker 9: Right, JP Michigan all day, every day, elementary school, bully,
- 2:55:45Speaker 9: middle school bully, was.
- 2:55:46Speaker 2: Ohio State fan.
- 2:55:47Speaker 9: I'll never root for Ohio State.
- 2:55:50Speaker 6: Yeah, fully with Michigan. Ohio State has had such a
- 2:55:54Speaker 6: cupcake schedule and I don't know, I just I love.
- 2:55:57Speaker 6: I would love to see you'll get five in a row.
- 2:55:58Speaker 6: It just kills the casual house State fans that just
- 2:56:02Speaker 6: linger in the dark all year long.
- 2:56:04Speaker 2: So because they still get to go to the playoff things,
- 2:56:07Speaker 2: you know, but then you still win a national title,
- 2:56:09Speaker 2: but you can't beat Michigan.
- 2:56:10Speaker 1: Can't beat them.
- 2:56:11Speaker 6: It's the best just caveat of well, at least you
- 2:56:14Speaker 6: got that.
- 2:56:15Speaker 7: So yeah, go Blue, Go Blue.
- 2:56:17Speaker 1: And for the chaos of it all, that would be fun.
- 2:56:20Speaker 1: Godselfs Mitch, all right, Mitch, it's the world boys. I
- 2:56:28Speaker 1: cannot thank you enough. It feels so good to have
- 2:56:31Speaker 1: you by my side because earlier this year, I had
- 2:56:33Speaker 1: to fight a battle alone. Victorious, but I had to
- 2:56:36Speaker 1: fight a battle alone.
- 2:56:37Speaker 9: Would you like us to text you during the game
- 2:56:39Speaker 9: when things are going good?
- 2:56:41Speaker 1: Yeah? Absolutely, as I love to know what my boys
- 2:56:43Speaker 1: are buying with me. I think that's awesome, even if
- 2:56:45Speaker 1: I don't get to to I don't know the forty
- 2:56:47Speaker 1: six commercial breaks there are when everybody goes on their phone. Anyway, Like, yeah,
- 2:56:52Speaker 1: it'd be awesome. You guys don't have to though. If
- 2:56:54Speaker 1: that's how you guys play games, don't change up for me.
- 2:56:56Speaker 1: Just enjoy the game.
- 2:56:57Speaker 2: Is your game.
- 2:56:58Speaker 1: I appreciate your game. We want to This game is
- 2:57:01Speaker 1: not about me, that's the thing. Like I had my
- 2:57:04Speaker 1: time at Michigan. It's about those kids. It's about Brettison,
- 2:57:08Speaker 1: who might not play, who is two time captain full back,
- 2:57:12Speaker 1: the heart and soul of that team. It's about kids
- 2:57:14Speaker 1: like that. That's what it's about. So watch the game,
- 2:57:18Speaker 1: watch the game how you watch games. But just know
- 2:57:21Speaker 1: it's Michigan and I cannot fucking wait. Mitch will be
- 2:57:24Speaker 1: at the house. I guess I'll get like a gout
- 2:57:27Speaker 1: free pizza. We can get pizza. No, my life is
- 2:57:32Speaker 1: so different now, man, I'll have like a fucking carrots
- 2:57:35Speaker 1: and ship or whatever. I have to eat beans. No,
- 2:57:38Speaker 1: then I'll get I'll get Mitch food. I'll just stare
- 2:57:40Speaker 1: at his foot. I'll have my dog bowl of food
- 2:57:44Speaker 1: whatever I'm allowed to be, just ab and a dog bowl.
- 2:57:48Speaker 1: I don't know through the bread. Who knows the jelly?
- 2:57:50Speaker 1: You know the sweets and the jelly. I'm in hell anyway,
- 2:57:54Speaker 1: Uh go Blue Boys? Any parting thoughts, We're good. Subscribe
- 2:57:58Speaker 1: so close to Let's get it done. Let's get it done.
- 2:58:02Speaker 1: Big hugs, tiny kisses,