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- 0:00Hi friends, you're listening to Lose the Plot with Carla and
- 0:02Emily. In this episode we're reading
- 0:05Better Than the Movies by Lynn Painter.
- 0:07We are talking about the entire book, so warning there will be
- 0:11spoilers. I'm Carla and Wes had one of
- 0:27those naughty boy faces, the kind of face where his dark eyes
- 0:32surrounded by mile long thick lashes.
- 0:34Because life wasn't fair. I'm Emily.
- 0:37I wear alpaca hair so ghosts know I'm not a threat.
- 0:41What? I do kind of remember that, but
- 0:44not before we dive into the emotional rollercoaster that is
- 0:47better than the movies, complete with teen angst, questionable
- 0:51decisions and the most irritatingly lovable boy next
- 0:53door. dot dot dot. We've got a small, not at all
- 0:57desperate favour to ask. If you've been enjoying our very
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- 1:06what we're doing. And if you've got friends who
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- 1:12tension and screaming into the void, send them this episode.
- 1:17Trigger warnings from booktriggerwarnings.com.
- 1:20Alcohol consumption, smoking, vomiting, grief and loss,
- 1:24depiction, death of a mother in a car, accident mentioned and
- 1:29bullying. Anything else?
- 1:33Nay, nay, nay. Can we start with the elephant
- 1:36in the room? Depends on the elephant and
- 1:39depends on the room it's. Always the same elephant.
- 1:43It was like 2 sentences and we got a dead mom.
- 1:46Ah, yeah. Duh, it is the elephant.
- 1:48So stressed I was like. You're like what?
- 1:51Did I miss something? Apparently we know of a dead
- 1:54mom. Honestly, I feel like we've had
- 1:56a sooner dead mom. I think we've had a dead mom in
- 1:58the first sentence where I feel like this was maybe the third.
- 2:01Yeah. So I mean.
- 2:03You know what, at least this dead mom was nice.
- 2:05Yeah. She was the sweetheart of the
- 2:08neighborhood. But she's dead, so we didn't.
- 2:13Doesn't matter, we don't. Dead.
- 2:15We don't know that much. She's out of here.
- 2:18Honestly, I read the second book so I probably know.
- 2:21More OK, yeah, you know what it's giving?
- 2:23It's giving Mary Alice from Desperate Housewives.
- 2:26Nah. OK, so she's the sweet mum of
- 2:29the neighborhood that dies first episode and you're learning
- 2:32about why she died kind of thing.
- 2:33Yeah, that's this lady. Dead.
- 2:37Dead. Bro, she's dead.
- 2:39Bro what's wrong with being a mum?
- 2:42Like, why are you cursed to die? OK?
- 2:44Why can't there just be other other plots?
- 2:49Why can't they live? Why can't her dog die and she'll
- 2:52just be heartbroken? Because the dog didn't care
- 2:56about romance movies. Maybe.
- 2:59Maybe. Honestly, dead mums are just a
- 3:02plot point. They are.
- 3:04Have you seen the TikTok where it's like anti tropes?
- 3:07It's like the opposite tropes. Oh no.
- 3:10Say enemies to lovers, but it's her bullying him instead.
- 3:14That's not that. Opposite.
- 3:16It's like A twist. On a trope, Yeah.
- 3:18Like twisted tropes, OK. All of them opposite and there
- 3:21was one. It was like instead of 1 bed, 10
- 3:24beds. Summer camp.
- 3:28I really love that. Mm hmm.
- 3:31Cool. So then it's them awkwardly
- 3:33choosing how far apart they sleep.
- 3:35Yeah. And then overthinking it.
- 3:36I love that. Or instead of her being like the
- 3:39hero, she's actually the villain.
- 3:42OK, instead of him burning the world down, he kills.
- 3:47But where does Dead Mum fit into that alive mum?
- 3:53It's like, just give us a live mum a.
- 3:54Live nice mum. Ohh.
- 3:56Ohh. No.
- 3:57If this makes you feel if this if this makes you feel worse,
- 4:01right. Keeping in track with the book,
- 4:03right? Book 2.
- 4:05His mum goes loopty as well then.
- 4:08She's a bad mum. And then she's a bad mum.
- 4:10And then ruins his college like 2nd book spoiler sorry.
- 4:14He drops out of college 'cause his dad dies and he has to look
- 4:18after his sister because his mum decides dad.
- 4:21Yeah, dead dad, but dead mum? Oh no.
- 4:25I. Just.
- 4:26Don't. It just never stopped let.
- 4:30Them. Live Lynn if if it's not Lynn's
- 4:34fault, it's everyone. This is a bigger.
- 4:37Problem. Pick another trope, honestly.
- 4:40Do women you just exist? I don't want to hear about any
- 4:43mums anymore. Get rid of them.
- 4:47They just. Wait, I'm not there?
- 4:48They're gone already. They're gone.
- 4:49They've been killed off. Emily got what she wants.
- 4:51They're. There in the background.
- 4:55OK, so it is what it is. Dead mums will forever be a plot
- 4:59point. The end.
- 5:00OK, so I guess let's start with Elizabeth Box, BOM Box and BOM
- 5:08Box and BOM. I feel like it wasn't that.
- 5:11What is the? Box bomb.
- 5:14Oh yeah, OK. But at the start, I heard Livy
- 5:18live, Libby, Liz, that I thought this was another fucking Olivia
- 5:21I don't like. If this is going to be another
- 5:24basic gift, Olivia, I'm going to fucking lose it.
- 5:26No. Because we just had a basic
- 5:28bitch, Olivia. I don't remember.
- 5:30The Unhoneymooners. No.
- 5:32And I was like. Out of my brain.
- 5:34Bye, yeah. I can only keep so.
- 5:36Much that's true. There's only so much, so many.
- 5:39Books in there there's. Only so much RAM in there.
- 5:43You gotta take one out, put a new one in.
- 5:45You know what? She's a redhead.
- 5:46She is a redhead. She's not like other girls.
- 5:49She OK is an awkward girl. She's desperate for male
- 5:53validation, that was obvious. Pick me through and read out.
- 5:59Oh my God. And honestly, early on, or maybe
- 6:02midway, I was like, wow, this entire book is her fishing for
- 6:05compliments. Mm hmm.
- 6:08Mm hmm. The whole way.
- 6:09Through I was lied to by TikTok because I got the audio and I
- 6:13was excited. That was book 2.
- 6:15That's my fault. My bad.
- 6:16Oh, what were you lied to about? I just thought they would have
- 6:20his voice in this one. Anywho, she's not allowed to be
- 6:23awkward. How old is she again?
- 6:25Is it 17? 1718 I feel, Yeah, I feel, I
- 6:29feel. Quaking.
- 6:32Honestly, I didn't know it was a teenage book because even with
- 6:35books with these stupid cartoon covers, sometimes they're like,
- 6:38I was 38 years old and I stepped out on the New York sidewalk, do
- 6:43you know what I mean? Waiting to fall in love.
- 6:45But it was like, bitch, she's 17.
- 6:47Yeah. And so I almost had to give her
- 6:49a bit of a pass. Yeah, she was giving 17.
- 6:52She was giving 17. 17 10 year olds are weird.
- 6:55They are. Yeah.
- 6:58They do weird shit like wear retro red lipstick every day.
- 7:02OK. I can't talk because I'm not a
- 7:05redhead, but can a redhead enter the chat and please let me know
- 7:08I. Reckon it would look good but
- 7:10it's just you're in high school do.
- 7:13You think she's trying to do like the Taylor Swift or like
- 7:15the? Yeah, she said.
- 7:18Yeah, Yeah. Oh, she did OK.
- 7:20She said in the first part of the book that she dresses up
- 7:23every day for her love moment for her cute.
- 7:26Me, me cute. Don't know how you're going to
- 7:28do that in high school they'd be farting everywhere.
- 7:32Why? Why?
- 7:33Why? Why?
- 7:34Why? Because she can.
- 7:38Well, you're answering. For her.
- 7:40We just. Circle back.
- 7:42I'm like car, Elizabeth. I'm like why but also why not?
- 7:46That's all I could think about was get in the car.
- 7:48Elizabeth out of the buff buff. Buff, get in the car, Elizabeth.
- 7:56Is Elizabeth coming back? Is it circling back?
- 8:00No, because we're getting the vintage names now, you know what
- 8:02I mean? I think she was just meant to be
- 8:04a vintage girlie. Yeah, she's different, OK, But a
- 8:07very common name. Like there was Elizabeth the
- 8:0912th up in this hole, you know? What I mean, there's a long line
- 8:14of Elizabeth somewhere. The line the lineage goes back
- 8:18babes. The lineages a circle.
- 8:25The family tree is a. Reef.
- 8:28Elizabeth the Boxing. Bomb.
- 8:33I'm. Dead.
- 8:33I don't know what's happening right now.
- 8:36Honestly, help. So anyway, Elizabeth is
- 8:39existing. She's 17.
- 8:41She's fishing like it's the last day of fishing season.
- 8:44Eyes on her. What are you?
- 8:48Oh. Yeah, eyes on her at all times.
- 8:50Sorry. Yeah, she needs her moment.
- 8:53OK, so enter Wes Wesley Bennett, the boy next door, the annoying
- 8:59boy next door. He's always been there, just in
- 9:01the background. Harassing her, Pranking her.
- 9:05Yeah, just being annoying. Yeah, I think he did something
- 9:08to her car was that she gets dressed, ready for school,
- 9:11leaves and he's sitting on her car.
- 9:13Because they're fighting over the car.
- 9:14Park. Honestly, I would fold.
- 9:16Where is this car park like? How important.
- 9:18In front of her house, it's not. House, so it's hers.
- 9:21It's between. They have.
- 9:23It's not. It's not important though.
- 9:24It's important for the plot line, but it's not.
- 9:27Important. It's important for the law.
- 9:29It's important for the love. Law.
- 9:31Yeah, because they've been fake fighting over this.
- 9:33Yes, realistically call someone from the council to come out.
- 9:37She did. Wow, that's.
- 9:40Just how much I pay attention. She.
- 9:42She. Before her car got put there,
- 9:45she called the council because apparently loser you can't leave
- 9:49your car for somewhere for 24 hours.
- 9:51Like she was gonna get it towed. She got it towed and then he the
- 9:55reason she had that shit on her car was he sticky taped his I'm
- 10:00assuming council ticket to her car.
- 10:03Love that. I love how you're explaining the
- 10:05book to me as if I didn't read this last weekend like I have no
- 10:08memory. Honestly, I'm surprised I do.
- 10:11Yeah, there was lots of this that just didn't absorb.
- 10:15I think it's one of those. Books, yeah, it is surface level
- 10:18and for that I was happy because I think my brain needed a break.
- 10:21It does need a break. You know what I talking about
- 10:24breaks the second book, right? He's got his own point of view
- 10:29in it. And I will give Lynn Painter
- 10:31this. She can do a male's perspective,
- 10:35yearning love. No sexual shit.
- 10:39I'm talking none at all. You know how you read a man sing
- 10:41and they're like, Oh my Dick's hard 'cause she fucking opened
- 10:44her eyeballs? It's 'cause she's wearing a
- 10:46summer dress. Yeah, this man was like, I love
- 10:49the way she speaks. I love the way quaking, quaking.
- 10:54He found her in a party based on her hands.
- 10:57Her No, here we are. Her hands, her perfume and her
- 11:01mouth because she put in like contacts.
- 11:03It was a costume party. She's a piano player.
- 11:06Not a Cinderella story. Yeah, and I'm like every bit of
- 11:10this man speaking was him like obsessed with her.
- 11:13But you know, like I love the earth she walks on.
- 11:16And it was none of this fucking I'm hard all the time, which was
- 11:19a really nice. Goddess worship mode.
- 11:22Activated. I was like I can listen to this
- 11:26all. It was nice.
- 11:27It was so nice. Nice to hear men care.
- 11:31I'm sick of reading a. Book and they're literally like
- 11:35the smell of it made my Dick hard I.
- 11:37Think also like you're catering to different audiences because I
- 11:40think it goes to show that women are not sexually desired enough
- 11:43in today's society and they're also not healthily obsessed over
- 11:47enough. Either I don't want to be
- 11:50sexually desired like that. I reckon I would love if they're
- 11:54like, I just love everything about it.
- 11:56Yeah, so this goddess mode is. He could answering crowds based
- 12:00on her perfume. That shit, it's crazy.
- 12:02Yeah, I know. Little Bloodhound, like what is
- 12:07he doing exactly? Oh my God.
- 12:09He's like that Chanel #5. It was just really refreshed,
- 12:13woodwashed, not much. I would.
- 12:15She. Would.
- 12:16She would. So now let's talk about Michael,
- 12:19the other point to the triangle A Oh my God.
- 12:23So he was the primary school crush.
- 12:26He moved away to Texas for a bit, and now he's returned with
- 12:29a slight country twang. And she's twang.
- 12:32She's twang. She's by the twang.
- 12:34Yeah, she. Has she's been twang by the
- 12:36twang and he. Was not like other boys.
- 12:38No, he wasn't. He was catching bugs not to
- 12:41kill. Catching.
- 12:44Bugs catching books from the garden.
- 12:46Catch. To release catch to release
- 12:48catch. To observe reading books in the
- 12:50garden. It's like please can we at least
- 12:52get a physical description of Michael?
- 12:54Please, I'm begging. I don't even know what this man
- 12:57looks like. Doesn't matter.
- 12:59Does not matter. It does because I have to know
- 13:02why she even likes him. There was a lot about his stupid
- 13:04hair. Didn't take any of it in.
- 13:07I don't know what. That was it curly?
- 13:08Because in my mind, I feel like it is.
- 13:11Basically, she wants to get with Michael now that he's back in
- 13:14town. Yeah, because he's got good
- 13:16hair. And now it's going to fulfill
- 13:18her childhood. Crush.
- 13:19I mean he's been gone for like 10 years.
- 13:22He's a fully grown man, but he also gives me the ick.
- 13:25Anytime he spoke I was like damn you really long the barrel on
- 13:29this one. I think the problem with Liz is
- 13:32that when her and her mum were together, when her mum was
- 13:35alive, obviously they watched all of these cheesy romance
- 13:38movies. So the second Michael came back
- 13:41into her life, she's like, oh, it's destined because he was my
- 13:43first crush. Yeah, it's like coal.
- 13:46Look, you know nothing about. Him that right now though, at
- 13:49least spend some time. And everyone keeps telling that
- 13:52her that too. They're like he could literally
- 13:54be a psycho. Exactly.
- 13:55But no, no, no, she just double s down.
- 13:57She's like no, this will make mum happy.
- 14:00So she recruits Wes because she realises their buddy buddy and
- 14:04she essentially tells him this whole plot that like I have to
- 14:08get Oh my God, you know what, we should have known.
- 14:12Like I feel like this girl is so dumb because even in when she's
- 14:16recruiting him, Wes goes it's not gonna work 'cause yous
- 14:20aren't doing the enemies to love is true.
- 14:22Even he was like I'm working hard.
- 14:25I know he's like, I'm doubling down every day on this shit and
- 14:28she's into Michael. But you know, we'll give him,
- 14:31give him what we give him. And he just agrees because he
- 14:34knows he'll be able to spend more time with her.
- 14:35Exactly. We love a shared project.
- 14:38Yeah. If anything is gonna bring you
- 14:39together, it's a shared project. So he's pretending to care about
- 14:43the ultimate goal. I'm like at least he's putting
- 14:45in the work. Hmm Michael couldn't give 2
- 14:48shits. Michael, it's oblivious.
- 14:50Michael's so oblivious. Anytime she's hurt or something,
- 14:54she's like, Michael doesn't care but worse does.
- 14:57I'm like, shut up. But to be fair, Michael's not
- 14:59even there 99% of the time. How's he supposed to care about
- 15:02things he's not physically present for?
- 15:05Honestly, I wouldn't be Michael. This girl is in this whole
- 15:07situation. That would be me.
- 15:09I'm sort of like, I don't know. This goes bold though.
- 15:12Imagine walking up to your Hut. Buff neighbor.
- 15:16Was he 6 foot? He.
- 15:17Feel like he feel like he had a glow up.
- 15:20He had a glow up in book 2. He was like 65.
- 15:22So I'm assuming he's huge. OK, you've got this huge ass
- 15:26who's giving you every bit of attention he possibly can, and
- 15:30you're just gonna go for the weird kid with the country
- 15:33Twain? Well, I think Michael's supposed
- 15:36to be hot as well and because her and Wes have had this long,
- 15:41she just thinks Wes doesn't think she's attractive or
- 15:43anything, you know what I mean? Like she just thinks it's
- 15:46brother sister vibes. I mean he goes every day out of
- 15:49this way for this girl. Yeah, but she doesn't pick it
- 15:51up. She's not picking up what he's
- 15:52putting down to Lulu. To Lulu.
- 15:54He's literally screaming in her face exactly what he's doing.
- 15:58But also he plays it too cool. She doesn't know she's dumb.
- 16:05You know what? She's like dumb.
- 16:07She's so dumb though. I was going to say she's not
- 16:09that dumb, but she. Is because.
- 16:11In her mind, she'll be like, Wes is there for me every single
- 16:14day, and then Michael couldn't even care and I'm like.
- 16:17Your answer's right. There, Honestly, if I was,
- 16:20what's her name, Helena, I'd be fucking losing my mind.
- 16:24I'd be shaking her. I know what she does in me end
- 16:27but but even a long time ago. There, like, I get it, your
- 16:31mum's a romance writer for movies or books or whatever.
- 16:35Your mum would. Pick the next door neighbor.
- 16:37Be fucking for real. She doesn't know what a story
- 16:39arc is. OK, she's.
- 16:42Like. Nah, stop.
- 16:43Picking music for five fucking minutes.
- 16:45And she just double S down and goes, No, Michael is the answer.
- 16:48And hopefully we'll go together at prom because that solves
- 16:52everything, you know what I mean?
- 16:53But let's be real, it's OK that a 17 year old girl doesn't have
- 16:57actual problems. Like, oh, let's be happy in her,
- 17:00right? She's absolutely right for her.
- 17:04Good for her. She's picking between two
- 17:07equally attractive men, apparently.
- 17:09I'm like, I'm girls girl, but I'm also a haters first so she's
- 17:14like, what's the point of talking about it if I can't hate
- 17:16on that? Oh 100% and I mean really,
- 17:19Michael is oblivious, which is fine.
- 17:21That's just boys for ya. I feel like his brain would be
- 17:25the my Dick's hard every two minutes.
- 17:27He just seems dumb. Yeah.
- 17:29But I feel like he's not very sexually charged either 'cause
- 17:32he could have pushed things all the way already if he wanted to
- 17:35at that party and stuff. Sure didn't.
- 17:37Why? He wasn't 'cause he was seeing
- 17:39that other girl. Yeah but he wasn't like serious
- 17:41about it but he still could have.
- 17:43Have you watched love island? No boys literally will just
- 17:46fully make out with the chick 5 seconds if they have an
- 17:49opportunity. Oh my God.
- 17:50Even if they're fully in a fake relationship with one of the
- 17:53other Islanders look like. I'm.
- 17:54Fine. What I don't understand though
- 17:56is Michael moves back to town. Liz decides OK, I've got to make
- 18:00this work. Why does she change her
- 18:02personality to become a full pathological liar over the
- 18:06dumbest shit? Yeah you literally could have
- 18:09just stayed normal. Like calm the fuck down.
- 18:13Sports girl, you can't change your entire life.
- 18:16Exactly what I don't understand though.
- 18:18She's like at some little get together or something.
- 18:21Michael's there. Mm hmm.
- 18:23And she decides to tell the biggest loudmouth in the entire
- 18:26party, which is just another girl, that she's like,
- 18:28essentially dating Wes. Mm hmm the fuck Mm hmm.
- 18:32Why I was? Like I feel like the universe
- 18:35was just pushing them together at all times.
- 18:37Why is that the method to get Michael to like you?
- 18:40Why are? You trying to be his friend?
- 18:41You hate this man. If some girl his age is hitting
- 18:46on him in a party, I'm sure he's either grown enough to say I'm
- 18:49not interested or he's probably interested.
- 18:53That's why he hasn't said what you think.
- 18:55I just don't get it because she said that they're buddy buddy,
- 18:58so why would you instantly make it look like, oh, I'm trying to
- 19:00work my way through the friend group?
- 19:02What? She said Not even like, oh, me
- 19:04and Wes were talking last summer, 'cause I'm such a hot
- 19:07ticket. She's like, oh, we're dating.
- 19:09For dating What for dating? Off the market bitch.
- 19:12Like what do you mean? I don't know if it's because I'm
- 19:15a grown ass woman now or if at 17 I would have just ignored it.
- 19:19I'm like, you know what I mean? I feel like I would have not
- 19:22done it. Why was that important?
- 19:24I. Was like, I wouldn't have done
- 19:25any of that and also if she was drinking alcohol, it would have
- 19:28made more sense. Not only that, can we talk about
- 19:31the mustard sweater dress? She showed up in a mustard
- 19:34sweater dress with flowers with her red lipstick on and the
- 19:38first thing Michael ask her is why did she come in her work
- 19:41uniform? I can't imagine that being a
- 19:43work uniform. And she's like, yeah, I work at
- 19:46the diner, the diner. And he's like, oh, cool, what's
- 19:49it called? The Diner.
- 19:51And he's like, Oh yeah, I'm not that new to town bitch.
- 19:54Imagine him looking up the diner to go see her at work.
- 19:56Fuck me, I'm like, it's not on Google Maps, OK?
- 19:59It's very niche. Very niche, but I really.
- 20:02Wes. Secret OK, Wes has like a go at
- 20:05her, and it's not even because he thinks the outfit's ugly.
- 20:09It's probably cute. But he's like, howdy partner,
- 20:12who's the Philly in the dress block in the hook?
- 20:16That's what he says we're making like.
- 20:18Philly stop. Like why do you even want him?
- 20:23But at this point cancelled. Cancel but also like.
- 20:28Why are you trying so hard? Because she literally.
- 20:31Does that. I'm going to be picked out in
- 20:33the crowd and he's like, not for the reasons you want to go.
- 20:37Yeah, because people got hungry for pancakes all of a sudden.
- 20:39It's like, where's the diner again?
- 20:41It's like 24 hours. He pretty much called you greasy
- 20:44because everyone knows you look shit after work.
- 20:47Oh my God, it's a. Fact.
- 20:48Oh my. God, he pretty.
- 20:49Much called you. He pretty much called you
- 20:51greasy. Goyle.
- 20:54You know what, at least she didn't roll up in there and roll
- 20:56the blades like 5 brothers. I wouldn't be surprised though,
- 21:03she tries to like backwards. Wes is like this hot jock and
- 21:10he's taking the nerdy girl to party and he's just in the
- 21:12corner. Like why?
- 21:14But like. Why does he have to be the
- 21:15accessory of dating her? Oh my God, at least tell me
- 21:18we're fake dating before we go into the function.
- 21:22Like please. It's a bit of warning.
- 21:24If I was Wes, I'd be hooking up with someone else in the next
- 21:27room and then she's coming over here and then everyone thinks
- 21:30I'm the bad guy. Like no, we were fake dating
- 21:35babes. Have.
- 21:38Fun. You're really out here telling a
- 21:39girl while you're trying to date someone else in the room?
- 21:42I know. Imagine how bad that would make
- 21:44you look. No, honestly, Wes could do so
- 21:47much better. No, I feel like they're very on
- 21:49par. I mean.
- 21:51He does do a lot. He's just a better man than I
- 21:53would be in that scenario. I'd be like.
- 21:58I mean. I'm going to college next year.
- 22:00I don't need to see you. Guys ever again.
- 22:04He's he's out here helping the. Nerdy girl out telling me I'm
- 22:0765. Bye.
- 22:14Oh shit. Like, I mean, are you kidding?
- 22:18Anyway, anyway, back-to-back to the programme.
- 22:21This girl is so psychotic because it's so very on par for
- 22:2517, so I'll let her have it. So while this is all happening
- 22:29while he's telling her she looks greasy as fuck up.
- 22:33Oh shit. And she's a filly.
- 22:34She says to Michael in her head, How would you feel if I told you
- 22:39I love you? This man is not even looking at
- 22:42you. He does not even care.
- 22:45He does not even care you're in the room.
- 22:50He said you're blocking the other girls.
- 22:53He said get out. Of the way, why won't you?
- 22:55Know that's what Wes said to her.
- 22:59Wes said it as my. Girl.
- 23:00Oh, OK. But you know Wes knows him best,
- 23:04so. I'm not OK.
- 23:07And then immediately, immediately.
- 23:09This girl cannot give anyone a break.
- 23:12Immediately after she says that Michael's like this is all in
- 23:17the same time period. She goes in her head when
- 23:20Michael says something like, oh, I don't know.
- 23:22When Prom is. She's like, you know me.
- 23:24Take me, my beautiful Michael, not the evil and vapid Laney
- 23:27Shut. Up What did Laney do to you Ho?
- 23:30Oh my God. Just because you were grieving
- 23:34doesn't mean a girl can't have her mother shut up.
- 23:38Sorry I. Love it.
- 23:40Well, their beef. Was all because like she was
- 23:42grieving her mum and Laneys mum would come to school.
- 23:45Yep. Just because something tragic
- 23:47happened to you does not mean it has to happen to everyone.
- 23:50Be for real. And wasn't her mum being nice to
- 23:52her? Yeah, she's bringing her extra
- 23:54food or whatever. They're buying her extra food
- 23:55all the time. Yeah, like she punishes other
- 23:58people for just. Existing.
- 24:00Existing, trying to give her a distance and they weren't pushy.
- 24:03Well she was like Laney would bring in food, baked goods from
- 24:07her mum and tell everyone about it and share them around it.
- 24:10Her mum was making extra baked goods for you girl.
- 24:12Put it together, she just just too dumb.
- 24:15Too dumb, too she wasn't. A girl but.
- 24:17Still, but still, Why? Why?
- 24:19Are. You calling her vapid an evil?
- 24:22Because she wants her man. Honestly, she's not like her.
- 24:25Like gods, OK, she's a redhead. She just, she wants the glass
- 24:29lane, she wants the fast lane to every boy and she doesn't want
- 24:32any boy to have anyone else, no. And then immediately after all
- 24:37that happens, she gets power disputed on again.
- 24:40That was actually funny. Honestly, well deserved.
- 24:43Michael's probably like, Oh no, your uniform.
- 24:48How would you? Afford another?
- 24:50Do you have a spare girl? But to be fair, like the other
- 24:54girls are at least trying to drink and have fun.
- 24:57Exactly. Like live your life and why are
- 24:59you? Confessing to this man you met
- 25:00like 2 days ago. Your crush Ashley did you a
- 25:03favour. She stopped you.
- 25:05The parties were kind of funny, but I.
- 25:08Was kind of like. Where is this?
- 25:09Going I think all of the random shit was to just boost.
- 25:14What's up? Because immediately after she
- 25:17gets power spewed he's like pretty sure someone was hitting
- 25:20on him and he like moves them to the side and it's like taking
- 25:22her to get changed and everything.
- 25:24And then didn't they go home together or something like I
- 25:27mean. Well, she went back down to the
- 25:28party because she didn't want her phone, and then he took her
- 25:30home because his pants were falling off her.
- 25:32From here onwards they just have all these little non date dates
- 25:37and at this point he didn't really like ask her what her
- 25:40plan is about the fake dating because like when does that end?
- 25:44I'd be like how long am I doing this for because I didn't even
- 25:46agree to it at the start. Yeah.
- 25:49So that was a bit vague. Obviously he's loving it.
- 25:51Oh yeah. Because he's like.
- 25:53That's exactly what I wanted this entire time.
- 25:55I. Know which I don't understand,
- 25:57because if you if you've just spread a rumor about yourself,
- 26:00everyone is going to kind of leave you alone.
- 26:02Yeah, there's a bit of girl code.
- 26:03Even the girl at the party was like, I didn't know I'm good.
- 26:06I was flirting with your man in front of your face.
- 26:09I'm so sorry. Exactly.
- 26:10So you've just he went to work for him.
- 26:12Yeah, and. Now how are you going to UN piss
- 26:15on him before prom? There's a death, and he'd have
- 26:17to be into it for her to work. Well, this man was living his
- 26:20dream. He's like, oh, now I get to take
- 26:22her everywhere with me. And excuses to hang out, to
- 26:25strategize about Michael, which why?
- 26:28And he's a teenage boy. It wouldn't take that much.
- 26:31Strategy Teenagers are weird. Let's be real, we were doing
- 26:34some weird shit. Probably if I wasn't 20 years
- 26:38older than you old my like. 16 once too.
- 26:46Was, you know, early in the piece where Liz and Wes are
- 26:49hanging out more? I love how she just full blown
- 26:52obsessed that she knows his exact scent profile.
- 26:56I'm like stop. Like she had the notes, she had
- 26:59the top notes, the middle, the bass.
- 27:00She had everything. And I was like, I'm.
- 27:03Like stop trying to convince yourself you're not in love with
- 27:05this man. And then he was even like he was
- 27:09so complimented. Get a girl.
- 27:12I don't know. He was like and he said I'm
- 27:14winning slowly but. He's like he's got her trained
- 27:18on his I. Wish we had the point of view of
- 27:21him, even if it was like a little snippet, like a little
- 27:24novella even. Because it would be giving
- 27:28Edward from Twilight obsessed but like holding everything back
- 27:32the girlies love. Girlies love.
- 27:34I didn't know what the whole big deal about him buying those
- 27:37bloody shoes was. The Chucks.
- 27:40Just a gift. But it was such a big girl.
- 27:42I don't wear sharks. I'm not like other girls, no.
- 27:46But just think about it, you're 1617, right?
- 27:49You're going shopping and some This man's higher than he's
- 27:53older than he should be. Like mentally maturity.
- 27:56Ohh what? Barely, but vaguely.
- 28:00And this man buys you cute little converse some girl posted
- 28:05on TikTok, the converse she thinks that he bought her.
- 28:07And they were like, white ones with little flowers embroidered
- 28:10on them, like those. Yeah, yeah, they're the exact
- 28:13ones. He would he.
- 28:16Would but. I feel like secretly he wants
- 28:18her shoe size. Why?
- 28:20Because he's. Obsessed.
- 28:21He want. He has like a like a notebook at
- 28:24home with her, like height, weight.
- 28:26He's cataloguing everything. He sneaked her hands out at a
- 28:29party at a muscarian ball. OK, hit me out.
- 28:32Hit me out with the shopping, too.
- 28:34He was like, oh, you can't wear that to the basketball because
- 28:37we'll look out of place. I feel like he was doing
- 28:40everything in his power to to make it so that she would get to
- 28:45a point that she loses herself like Himia loses herself and
- 28:49then she resents Michael because she had to change her whole
- 28:52person. Like this man was a long time
- 28:55hauling I feel like. He was overcorrecting.
- 28:58Yeah, he was like. Oh, Michael loves a sporty lass.
- 29:02A sporty lass was. Straight, so we're gonna have to
- 29:04go get some jock straps and shit.
- 29:08He's like, you're gonna have to buy all your clothes, throw out
- 29:10all the things you love, shoulder pads, straighten your
- 29:13hair every day, no fun little cute shoes for you anymore, no
- 29:17lipstick. He was like.
- 29:18Say goodbye to your entire personality, Liz.
- 29:21Get in the car, Elizabeth. We're going shopping.
- 29:26He's. Like we're going shopping.
- 29:28He's like low key traumatising us.
- 29:30Honestly, I would, it's what she deserves.
- 29:34He's like, look, if you date this man, you're gonna have to
- 29:36wear fucking jeans with rips in them.
- 29:42That's a problem because she doesn't wanna do that because
- 29:45she's not like. Other girls she's a wear dress
- 29:47everyday girl and he's. Like to be the Nora Smith at
- 29:50home barefoot. Mm hmm.
- 29:51Baking from. Scratch.
- 29:53Yes, the Megan Muckle, if you will survive.
- 29:57And he's just like he's. Stunningly.
- 29:59Beautiful. We're not like, that's fucking
- 30:01disgusting to Michael. Like Michael?
- 30:06Loves it. Michael.
- 30:07Thanks you bitch. Michael loves the inflated lips,
- 30:11the peroxide blonde hair. I would just love it if he gave
- 30:15her just bad makeover advice. I, I feel like Wes was one step
- 30:18away from going like bleach your hair, girl.
- 30:21I try it off. He was, he might love it.
- 30:23We're eyeing for the street going.
- 30:26They end up going to the basketball game too.
- 30:28And then she's like awkwardly sitting in the car because
- 30:31Laney's also going. I have no idea why Laney was in
- 30:33the cat suit. Was she?
- 30:36But it wasn't like, OK. It was like a tight cat.
- 30:39I feel like she was a dancer maybe.
- 30:41Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah, she mentioned she
- 30:42was still wearing her dance outfit in the car.
- 30:46Yeah, but again, every time Liz is anywhere any other girl goes.
- 30:50Oh, I didn't know you were coming.
- 30:53Because Liz is the weird. Girl who isn't even in the
- 30:56popular group, so every time she's just physically in the car
- 30:58because Wes is tagging her along, everyone goes oh.
- 31:02Oh, OK, No one told us in the group chat.
- 31:04Yeah. Literally they have a group chat
- 31:06without her and you know it. You know it.
- 31:10She's not in the group chat. And like, she's in it now, but
- 31:12still. No, she's not.
- 31:13She's just the one that rocks up in person.
- 31:16She is where's is in the group chat you.
- 31:18Know. It where's his tag along again?
- 31:22Are they are they related? I can't remember.
- 31:23Oh, it's the weird girl from. Is it his cousin?
- 31:26It's the one that he feels bad for because her mum died.
- 31:31It is. Is that anyway she's in the car?
- 31:36I'm just moving on. She's in the car and she's
- 31:41trying to talk to Michael, but you know, Laney gets in the car
- 31:43so she can't have a conversation with a man anymore.
- 31:46Of course. It's too hard.
- 31:47Laney's there. Well, so he's got no interest in
- 31:49you, bitch. Read the like be for real.
- 31:54What does Laney look like? She's like a cheerleader.
- 31:57I don't know. Yeah, some dancer.
- 31:58Vapid, extraordinary. Bendy, bendy, slippy slidey
- 32:04catsuit. Slick.
- 32:06She's saving the day, she's in the night in the what?
- 32:12I'm appreciating a book where it wasn't just like, sexually
- 32:15charged. I know I loved it.
- 32:17Because a lot of times these weird teenage books.
- 32:21Are. Very sexually charged.
- 32:23And it's scary. You can't be.
- 32:25And there's rising a weird. Sex cult gang thing.
- 32:28I'm like. You know.
- 32:30Hearing about them having age appropriate relationships, I'm
- 32:33like what? I'm honestly at a point where
- 32:36I'm surprised it wasn't a weird gang and a sex cop I.
- 32:39Was like. Oh, where is I was like where's
- 32:42the non consent? Exactly.
- 32:45Everyone was just. I've been so we're so
- 32:48traumatised of Silver Salon. It's still in Everest.
- 32:51I know, but also a lot of times you're just like, I didn't wanna
- 32:55sign up for this kind of book. I feel like a creepy pervert
- 32:58reading this. Yeah, 'cause I'm like, I didn't
- 33:00know it was gonna be about teenagers having weird.
- 33:03Sex, you've either gotta go through it going this is weird,
- 33:07or you've gotta bring yourself down and be like, oh, I'm a 19
- 33:10year old reading this book, not a 30.
- 33:12Year old? Yeah, sure.
- 33:13Just lie to yourself. Lie to yourself.
- 33:15I lie to myself everyday. Oh, exactly.
- 33:17Did. You know, but she read the room
- 33:21bitch, because in the car ride in the car, she starts reading a
- 33:24book on her phone. Love that for you.
- 33:26But Wes is reading the book over her shoulder and then she stops
- 33:29reading because you know, she's reading smart.
- 33:31But I was like. A cheesy romance.
- 33:32It wasn't like a smart, smart. It was cheesy.
- 33:34Romance, but she was getting to the kissing scene.
- 33:37The sex scene in it or some shit, you know, it's a fade to
- 33:40black. It's a fade to black, you know?
- 33:43She's not actually reading smart Michael's would fall off.
- 33:49But I'm like, what you doing, girl?
- 33:51Because you've got this man who's in your orbit 24/7.
- 33:55You're reading books of hot. Breath is on your neck while
- 33:58you're. Reading your book.
- 33:59With his top notes of pine enveloping you like.
- 34:04Be for real. Be for fucking real I.
- 34:06Won't even look at you without being prompt.
- 34:12Jesus so. Not only that.
- 34:13Michaels not checking for you? No, he doesn't give a fuck
- 34:17anyway. He gets to the basketball game,
- 34:19Michaels not even paying any interest to her.
- 34:22Of course Wes sets up a bet with her and it's like if he wins
- 34:25I'll give you 50 bucks. Don't know where this man is
- 34:27getting money from. Doesn't seem to have a job.
- 34:31Poke it, Mummy. Poke it up.
- 34:32His job is obsessing over her. Apparently.
- 34:35I don't know, something about the chucks and dress combo made
- 34:38me think of Bella Swan. They was like she's.
- 34:41Not as insufferable as Bella Swan, she's a bit more like a
- 34:45slightly bit more talkative, a bit less emo weird girl.
- 34:50Yeah, a bit more. Hopeful weird girl Zooey
- 34:52Deschanel type. Yeah, people love, love.
- 34:55I would hate her in real. Life.
- 34:58Do you hate Troy? Yes.
- 35:00Obviously you're like teenage hope ghosting.
- 35:06Get it away. From me.
- 35:08You and your normal. Problems and your.
- 35:10Normal relationships. How?
- 35:12Dare you go home and just listen to music and go to bed and not
- 35:15have to do? Literally.
- 35:17All these things, foul adult things, this is when she gets
- 35:22hit in the face with the basketball and they keep calling
- 35:24her Mr. Potato Head. Michael's laughing in her face.
- 35:27Yeah, laughing in her face. Cacking away does not.
- 35:29Crying with laughter. He does not give a shit.
- 35:32He's like fuck you look ugly girl.
- 35:34Farting with laughter. Farting with laughter on the
- 35:37ground, kissing himself, Shooting, shooting, pissing down
- 35:40the wall. Exactly.
- 35:42Wes panicking. Panicking.
- 35:44Panicking has taken his shirt off in her face, literally
- 35:47making her count to 10 I feel. Head tilted.
- 35:50Tilted. He's like, Oh my God, first aid.
- 35:52He's like, I'm actually the ambulance.
- 35:54So 91 one bed one. Oh my God, he's also.
- 35:58The only one willing to walk her to the hospital.
- 36:01Well, to be fair, like if I was in the friend group and having
- 36:04fun, if someone's got it handled, I'm not going to like
- 36:06intrude. I'm not going to be like, I have
- 36:09to come to that. I'll keep that in mind.
- 36:12I'm very not helpful. Like if he's walking her there
- 36:14already, isn't that like third Wheeling?
- 36:16I don't know. Yeah, but if you care about
- 36:19someone. What if I care about her getting
- 36:21that Duke? That Duke.
- 36:25Like this? All go well, just like Paul.
- 36:27Wes walking out down the street keeping her distracted.
- 36:29He even calls her parents and is like look she parent.
- 36:35Duh. Helena.
- 36:36Yeah, yeah, true. But to be fair, she's projecting
- 36:39Helena as her mom. She acts like she's like an
- 36:43random how to the family how dare Helena.
- 36:46Be quirky in a different way to you.
- 36:47Oh. Poor justice for Helena.
- 36:50She put it in the work. Every day she's fucking
- 36:53overtaking Gary. Gary, at this point?
- 36:56You know what pisses me off? I was like, she acts like she
- 36:58hasn't been there for the like last.
- 37:00Million. Years, 12 years watching her.
- 37:03Yeah, she's like, just my dad's home.
- 37:06And she went cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs when Helena was at her
- 37:10mother's grave. Mm hmm.
- 37:12Like she's the only allowed to be there.
- 37:15And then Helena was like, I was literally coming here to spend
- 37:17time with your mum to ask for some advice, which valid.
- 37:20She's like allowed to do that, and she's like you.
- 37:22Never even met. Her.
- 37:23Well, duh. Because I wasn't having an
- 37:25affair with your dad, idiot. That would make it.
- 37:27Even. Worse.
- 37:29And let's be real, your mum was a romance writer.
- 37:32She. Would be all.
- 37:33For her dad having a second love.
- 37:35Oh, she would be all. She would be.
- 37:38That up and also she probably would want you to be happy.
- 37:43And someone to look after you. Exactly, so if you'd be happy
- 37:46with another parent then it's probably for your greater good.
- 37:49Bitch, shut up. But anyway, Helena aside, who
- 37:52Helena is the best? We love Helena.
- 37:55Just As for her because the amount of shit that she cops.
- 37:58I also love the name Helena. It suits.
- 38:01I feel like it suits her. Anyway, they're walking along.
- 38:05Anyway, they're on the way to. He's rung the parents, he's
- 38:08getting her to the hospital. He's shirtless walking into a
- 38:12hospital. And he or she is like Michael.
- 38:16Like, do you think he noticed me?
- 38:17And. Wes is like he noticed.
- 38:20When he's fighting, he. Noticed you when your face was
- 38:25fucking caved in he was having. He's gonna go home and giggle at
- 38:31your fathead. Oh my God, his.
- 38:34Feet kicked off like. Get it, potato.
- 38:37Head Honestly, Michael's the type who would have got it on
- 38:40film and he's editing a story right now.
- 38:46Oh God. And just hashtag the basketball
- 38:50hit is the weird chick. Oh my God, I just can't.
- 38:54And then he tries to tag her, but he doesn't even know her
- 38:56tag. Oh.
- 38:58He's got her blocked for being weird.
- 39:06Don't, because. Where is he?
- 39:09Where did Michael come? Is he running behind us?
- 39:11Is he messaging him about caring?
- 39:14Is he messaging you because he cares so much?
- 39:16No. If he cared, he'd message you
- 39:18babes. No, he doesn't get.
- 39:20Physically walked over here. Oh.
- 39:23If I was Wes, I'd be losing. He was.
- 39:25He left angrily. He's like, I'm fucking not had
- 39:28enough. He's like, I'm shirtless in a
- 39:30fucking hospital like a weirdo. And why does Wes get 0 credit?
- 39:35This man does is everything for her.
- 39:37But she only cares when she thinks that different girls
- 39:39interested in him properly. And I'm like.
- 39:41Bitch, be for fucking real. Be for real you're.
- 39:45Getting all the attention plus more than what you would
- 39:47probably get from Michael from this one kid.
- 39:50But anyway, their plot continues and she still wants Michael to
- 39:54pick her especially for prom and then don't they go to a like
- 39:58another party after that? I don't fucking know honestly.
- 40:02It wasn't. It was before the prom, it was
- 40:04the big hangout where and Michael invites her to the piano
- 40:07room upstairs or whatever. The fuck yes.
- 40:09And remember, that's when her she kind of like realizes that
- 40:13she actually wants Wes because they're like not cuddled up
- 40:16together, but they're kind of cuddled up together on the
- 40:18floor, almost kissing. And she was like, oh, if like
- 40:22all these other people were here, we weren't, we wouldn't
- 40:25kiss. But then Wes is a fucking idiot.
- 40:27And instead of rolling with it, he's like, actually I'm this is
- 40:30my time to shine and go hit on Ashley and send him up to go
- 40:33play piano on the top of the house.
- 40:35Well, he was sticking to the original plan.
- 40:37Yeah, because he is used to her doing this to him, so she's
- 40:41always kind of dangling the carrot in a way.
- 40:43So he didn't think anything was different.
- 40:45Yeah. Because remember, they're
- 40:46pretending they're sorta together in the group.
- 40:49So he probably thought, OK, we're all yeah, we're watching
- 40:51this movie in the kind of like, slightly dark movie room
- 40:55together. But she still wants me to go
- 40:57along with this. We're a nice.
- 40:59System before or after the phone call where they were like are
- 41:02you stalking me and stuff and they were watching like a movie
- 41:05and talking on the phone. Yeah, I can't remember.
- 41:07It's a weird timeline. They do lots of little non
- 41:10dates, kind of. Yeah, because they even like sit
- 41:13out the back of his house and he's smoking like cigars and
- 41:16stuff too. That's when they establish their
- 41:19special secret spot. And I'm like, Oh my God, get
- 41:23married. Can't marry.
- 41:26So Michael invites her up to the piano room and she's like, oh,
- 41:28I'm not very good. And then starts playing a bit of
- 41:30Adele. And then he was kind of like,
- 41:33oh, it's, you know, it's it's quiet in this room.
- 41:36But then the whole group comes in.
- 41:38Yeah. And then she's like, oh,
- 41:40because. And he's like, Oh yeah, it's
- 41:41soundproof for downstairs, but not the room.
- 41:43Next door was all out. And I'm fucking like.
- 41:45I'm like but did they all just follow up the stairs and did
- 41:48they all just creep up the stairs?
- 41:49I don't think it was soundproof at all.
- 41:51I don't know. Embarrassing I.
- 41:53Think he was saying it's soundproof from downstairs but
- 41:55they were in the same level so they did hear it.
- 41:59I don't know what it was. And then Michael was low key
- 42:02confessing that he likes. Her.
- 42:05At that time. No, I think he was confessing he
- 42:07likes Laney. But he was picking up what she
- 42:10was putting down in the wrong way.
- 42:11Yeah, because she already decided and she was like, well,
- 42:14go for gold for Elaine or something, prom pose and stuff.
- 42:17And then he was like, Ding, Ding, Ding.
- 42:18Actually, I'm going to do it for.
- 42:20You dumb fuck. I feel like he thought that she
- 42:23was talking about him, though. Yeah.
- 42:26And then that's where he 'cause she, she really wants to be
- 42:28proposed to. Yeah, 'cause she was really
- 42:30passionate about it and everything, but even they go
- 42:33down to play like cards with humanity or something.
- 42:36Yeah. Cards Against Humanity.
- 42:37Yeah, Alex and Wes had buddied up and she's like spiralling
- 42:41because Alex is a practically perched and wet Wes's leg.
- 42:46Mm hmm. Which?
- 42:47Which, like, duh, I was. Like this is just twisted.
- 42:50I'm like this is all your fault from not read like the 10
- 42:53million signs like I man even picked out your prom dress and
- 42:57you still ignored him. Oh, the prom dress was next
- 43:00level. Where was that before this
- 43:01party? Yeah, well, where he was like
- 43:03White's your colour, girl. When does wine any pale gingers
- 43:07colour? Never.
- 43:08But also he's hinting at I wanna marry you, bitch.
- 43:11I know between the lines, that's what my thought was, so I'm
- 43:14glad. You had this?
- 43:15No, I was like ohh. Then they leave all of this.
- 43:17They're cranky leaving the party.
- 43:19MMM, because they've both fucking done two stupid things
- 43:22and then they nearly die in a car crash.
- 43:24MMM. And then immediately they're
- 43:27making out in the car, covered in rain, having the best time of
- 43:31their life. And then she's moving moment.
- 43:33It's moving moment. It's her meet cute.
- 43:35It's everything she's ever wanted.
- 43:37She's locked in to this man. Now she's.
- 43:39Like, oh. Shit, he actually cares that
- 43:42much about me. She's in his lap, straddled.
- 43:44Straddled. Making out his dad shows up, of
- 43:47course, 'cause you know, you can't have your moving moment
- 43:49with someone else ruining it. Ruining it, yeah.
- 43:51And then the next day, Michael Prom poses to her and Wes is in
- 43:55the back going like go. For it, this is where it.
- 43:58All I was like you dumb fuck. Wait who are you calling a dumb
- 44:02fuck Because it was Wes Mix? Both are different, yeah.
- 44:05Because she hadn't had a chance to talk to Wes yet, because he'd
- 44:07been avoiding her all day. He's there when she gets prom,
- 44:10posed to, and he puts his thumb up and goes go for it.
- 44:13And I'm like you should have said no.
- 44:15Why was he avoiding her again? I don't know, I.
- 44:17Didn't know if he was purposefully, but she got pissy
- 44:20at him and that's why I can't remember.
- 44:23He went along with the proposal. Something happened, I don't know
- 44:28what it was. There was something that
- 44:29happened. I don't have any notes for what
- 44:31happened. And I'm Loki, can't remember,
- 44:33but she. I think she was pissed.
- 44:35Because she went off at him. I think she was pissy because he
- 44:39told her to do it and she's like we kissed.
- 44:42And he was standing next to, was it Ashley during the proposal?
- 44:45Yeah. And he was just like, yeah, you
- 44:47got what you wanted, girl. He's like, I got what I wanted,
- 44:49girl. Proposal was embarrassing.
- 44:51Yeah, disgusting. 'Cause wasn't she with her
- 44:52friend, that she just. Wanted to, honestly.
- 44:56Her fucking. Poor friend.
- 44:58She got the Helena treatment her entire life, giving Mean Girls
- 45:02when Katie gets brought into the popular group.
- 45:06Yeah, and then she's just horrendous to Janice or whatever
- 45:09the rest of the time. Yeah, because this poor friend
- 45:11of hers, I don't even remember her name.
- 45:14She just lied to her about everything for no reason.
- 45:16Cancelled on her all the time. Cancelled instead of just saying
- 45:19oh I was invited to the popular party.
- 45:22Yeah. Just a total bitch.
- 45:23And then she finally reconnects with her.
- 45:26Then she gets a stupid proposal she wants.
- 45:28Isn't that the point where the friend has just had enough?
- 45:31Yeah, and the friend is like you said, that you liked Wes now and
- 45:34now you got Michael doing the proposal or some shit.
- 45:37She was like, she was going on a date with Wes or something.
- 45:40She was leaving. Oh, no, it was when they were
- 45:42going to the movie night and her friend showed up and was like,
- 45:44look, you need to stop blowing me off for prom shopping.
- 45:48And she's like, my mum wants you to organize it.
- 45:50And Wes showed up and she's like, oh, going on a date with
- 45:52Wes and she was like, I like Wes.
- 45:54And then? Why is she like to everybody?
- 45:57It doesn't make any sense. It's not that big of a deal.
- 46:01The poor friend, because I think she was worried about being
- 46:03judged by the friend. The friend literally told her to
- 46:06leave it alone because she hadn't seen this man in years.
- 46:09I'm like, she's correct. Leave him alone, leave him
- 46:12alone. But since when does your friend
- 46:16have to have the exact same opinion as you about everything
- 46:19you know? Otherwise, they're not a real
- 46:21friend if they're not gonna slap you around the face and say go
- 46:23get a grip. Exactly what's the point?
- 46:26But also, why are you now feeling bad for Laney after you
- 46:30hustled for Herman? Exactly.
- 46:32You went out of your way. I was like, that was vindictive
- 46:35because of the mum situation. I was like, you only started to
- 46:37feel bad when you realised her mum went on like when she was
- 46:41saving to go on a mission trip, like be for real.
- 46:44And Laney actually liked Michael.
- 46:47Yeah. And didn't he kind of like her?
- 46:49They were in a. Talking phase.
- 46:50Yeah, so she said Nope, that's mine because he has good hair
- 46:53and I want him to be my prom like.
- 46:54Oh, he prom poses to her and then is depressed about it.
- 46:58They go out to dinner and everything for the prom.
- 47:00He's like eating dinner and he doesn't really want to talk to
- 47:03her and stuff. And then she's like Laney sees
- 47:05her in the bathroom and it's like oh, and tells her all the
- 47:07shit her mum did and she's like Oh well you should go talk to
- 47:10Michael. She's like, you can actually
- 47:12have him now. Yeah, like why does she need to
- 47:15give permission and. She's like I hustled for your
- 47:17man so hard even though I knew from day one.
- 47:20News we're talking. Not only that, I kind of stole
- 47:22your promposal. She girl bossed too close to the
- 47:26son, she girl. Bossed too close to the son.
- 47:28And for what? She doesn't even want that man
- 47:30because she only decided she wanted where's when Ashley
- 47:32wanted him. Exactly, exactly exactly.
- 47:36The joys of being a pic of me. Yes, the joys of being a dumb
- 47:39bitch, honestly. Justice Fellaini, Justice for
- 47:43the best friend and justice for Hellenia.
- 47:45Hellenia, Hellenia. He's a Lizzy Bithier.
- 47:49He's a. Bitch.
- 47:52At this point where's like, I hope you know what you're
- 47:54signing up for ohh. My God, but have a strophicness.
- 47:57I'm like a justice for everyone around her as well, because then
- 48:01she leaves the prominently and she sets up this whole date
- 48:04thing and he's brung home that Ashley or Alex or whoever.
- 48:08It was honestly because at the prom doesn't she hang out with
- 48:12the best friend again and tries to like reconnect and then
- 48:15spends time with her on the date Third wheels a little bit.
- 48:17Yeah, her best friend had another date and he wore an all
- 48:20denim suit and then another one of their friends, right?
- 48:24The actual. She set up the mutual.
- 48:26So she set them up and went OK, that's my karma fixed.
- 48:29Yeah. For fucking my friend over for
- 48:31an entire year. Great, I'm going home now.
- 48:33And then she's like, I'm going to go home and.
- 48:35Traumatize this other girl that finally and I got her drinking.
- 48:38Not even that, she's like, I'm going to just somehow fix
- 48:42everything. Why wouldn't you assume that the
- 48:45girl would be coming back? It's.
- 48:46Prom night. But.
- 48:48She's panicking because she's like, if he sticks it in then
- 48:51it's frivol. I'm.
- 48:53Like just wait until the next day went over there with
- 48:56breakfast. Like being for real.
- 48:58No, but she doesn't want him to stick it in.
- 48:59That's what she's so afraid of that he will have sex with her.
- 49:03You can tell because she's panicking.
- 49:05She's like, and then she went to the secret spot.
- 49:07She like what wrote down all of her weird inner thoughts which
- 49:10go. Put in a note.
- 49:11Put it in the front. She had s'mores and shit ready
- 49:14to go. Music.
- 49:15This man's trying to get it in. Like, what are you doing, bitch?
- 49:20He doesn't want marshmallows right now, OK?
- 49:23He's not that one anyway. Not exactly.
- 49:25He's trying to, like, bust a nut.
- 49:28He's trying to, but he's done. He's he's what are you?
- 49:33He's caught up with your shit for months, months, months, and
- 49:38then she just kicks it like she just kicks everything over go.
- 49:42I would have just left it. I would have ran.
- 49:44The way that what didn't she like drop a penny or some shit
- 49:48and she's like, oh, lucky penny. I'm out here.
- 49:51Looking for it, bitch. Yes.
- 49:53You're not. She lied and said I was looking
- 49:55for my lucky penny and then she was like, you know when you just
- 49:57really need that penny and you realise it's worth it?
- 50:00And my son is like, I didn't. Manipulate him in the moment.
- 50:03I'm like, OK, leave our secret spot because I'm down here too.
- 50:06You don't get down. I would have done in the spot.
- 50:09I would have done personally, instead of kicking everything
- 50:12over, I would have changed, change some music to something a
- 50:15little ugly and just sat there making smores and be like, hey
- 50:18guys, I came home early and this is what I'm doing.
- 50:21Literally. OK, what?
- 50:24What would you change it to? Like Cardi B, the new song.
- 50:32The new song where it's like tell your tell your mum.
- 50:35She raised a bitch or something. What was it playing beforehand?
- 50:40Some love song. Stop.
- 50:43Life's down low. I don't know.
- 50:44Oh my God, it's like Adele. Oh.
- 50:49There's no way to recover. Put some pop anthems on.
- 50:52I don't know it's. So rare to recover Awesome 2.
- 50:57Thousands club music honestly just they're making smalls
- 51:01they're not going to think anything different you could
- 51:03just be like hey look I got really bored and I really wanted
- 51:06smalls yeah but instead you're. Weird.
- 51:10Is this? Technically in his yard or is it
- 51:13like a shit? Yeah, so you fucking trespassing
- 51:15bitch. I'd be like, oh what?
- 51:17I couldn't. See it in the edge of the.
- 51:19Fucking like she would have had to skip the fence.
- 51:22I think she it's not in his yard, it's behind his yard, but
- 51:25she has to jump into his yard to get to it.
- 51:28I'm like, she had to physically. I would feel like, hey guys.
- 51:32Like the rat, I. Would pretend to be smoking out
- 51:34there just be like, hey, smoking some pot, had a bat?
- 51:37Honestly got the munchies s'mores.
- 51:39Squaws, I'm gonna go get some KFC guys, do you want some?
- 51:42Honestly, Rat. Instead, she leaves.
- 51:45Oh, not only that, Ratatouille. Add to her ratatouille.
- 51:48She's wearing his jumper she stole.
- 51:51Honestly. And it smells like the seed of
- 51:53pine. Shit.
- 51:55She's a. Psychopath.
- 51:57Because why? She cherishes this.
- 52:00Fucking pretty disgusting. Never been washed jumper.
- 52:05Not only that, she's probably like he gave her her sports bag.
- 52:08She's probably wearing the socks and the shoes.
- 52:10Two others weren't like the. Jock straps don't.
- 52:14Fucking short about Oh my. God helmet.
- 52:17She's like. She's a baseball player.
- 52:20Well, I don't. Know.
- 52:21All the same. Same shit.
- 52:24What if he was carrying S'mores ingredients as well?
- 52:28Like to go down there with ash? What now?
- 52:31Join it together, make a. Party like what do we do?
- 52:34You're like, actually, let's make a smallest Nacho bowl.
- 52:37I don't know. Delicious.
- 52:39Ashley didn't give a fuck. She's like she's.
- 52:41Just like. OK, do you need us to help you
- 52:43find the lucky penny like and then worse is sitting there
- 52:46like? The fuck?
- 52:47Penny. For fucking real.
- 52:49He's like, when did you ever have a penny?
- 52:51Why are you in my yard? And what's with the weird
- 52:54fucking opera music? Why are you clearly having
- 52:58anxiety just asking all the real questions like OK can you leave?
- 53:08Can you leave? She's actually in a wedding
- 53:09dress with the hoodie over time. The only thing that could be
- 53:14worse than the. Fucking hoodie was the Chuck's.
- 53:18Wedding dress Chuck's hoodie I'm.
- 53:20Wearing white though, yeah. Wearing white though, he's like,
- 53:23this girl's actually fucking insane.
- 53:25He's. Mental, mental.
- 53:29Mental. He's probably like mental for me
- 53:31though, so like he's like, that's my girl.
- 53:36If it was Cardi B, I'd be like, actually go home.
- 53:39I'm like, all right, we're about to get Turnt.
- 53:45I. Like.
- 53:47She's like, I actually raided your alcohol fridge.
- 53:50That's the outside I've. Got the cigars with the weed.
- 53:52Like, I mean, you know what? I'm going to pull out my best
- 53:54plump. She's like I lied the.
- 53:58Other night when I said I couldn't smoke.
- 54:00Oh my gosh, she's like the cool girl hoodie fucking Chucks.
- 54:07What else? Chocolate dripping down the
- 54:09hands, weed in the other. She stole beer out of his back.
- 54:16Honestly. She's still backed by curfew.
- 54:18Though it's about time that she like, joined the party though.
- 54:21Like it's about time she did some actual 17 year old
- 54:23behaviour. But she didn't.
- 54:25Obviously, because if anything that would be the most 17 year
- 54:29old behaviour. And then didn't she just like
- 54:31scamper off like this? Right she is she instead of
- 54:34pausing the like music, she kicked like she'd boot.
- 54:38Like you. Wasn't just.
- 54:40Gonna fly. Wasn't even a wireless figure.
- 54:42That bitch was an old school plug in.
- 54:44Ohh no how has she got power down here?
- 54:47What's extension cords? I'd be calling the police
- 54:49thinking some homeless campus. Being set up in my backyard if I
- 54:52was sister. Activity.
- 54:57He's like, where's this fucking music?
- 54:58Coming from all the time, there's Rat.
- 55:01Activity that. Oh my God.
- 55:04Fucking hell, I can't remember what even happens after that
- 55:07bit. She.
- 55:08Leaves to get McDonald's that's. Right.
- 55:11Dead ass, dead ass, dead ass sits.
- 55:13In the car eats it because she doesn't want to get out of her
- 55:16car. Embarrassing.
- 55:17Instead, she parks in front of their house, eating McDonald's.
- 55:20Yeah, and. That's not weird.
- 55:22And then they kiss in the front yard.
- 55:23And then then a date. No, but he OK first of all he
- 55:27knocks on the window and she's crying into her Mcflurry which.
- 55:31She's dipping chips. She's dipping chips.
- 55:34And she's like, I'll come back later.
- 55:37He's like, I think he said I had enough of waiting.
- 55:40He's like, I've been out here for 20 minutes waiting for you.
- 55:42Yeah, he thought she was a normal person and was going to
- 55:44just walk into her house. She's just like.
- 55:48She doesn't even have a Mcflurry.
- 55:50She's got like 5 big mats of Mcflurry and she's just she's
- 55:57doing probably a mukbang or she's full mukbang crying.
- 56:01She's like, hey guys. You know what's even worse?
- 56:04It's probably not even McDonald's.
- 56:05It's probably Hungry Jack's I'll.
- 56:10So she's sitting there like which?
- 56:14A lot of this was her fault. So like, what are you gonna do?
- 56:17Cry, Have the Mcflurry and live another day like you live at
- 56:21night. I was like, you're going to
- 56:22college soon anyway. His penis will work tomorrow
- 56:26like it's orange kind. I'm like, he's just getting in a
- 56:29practice round it. Doesn't if that's if that's what
- 56:34she believes it's like accepted. It's all good.
- 56:41Something a motivational podcast.
- 56:44It's all good, babe. Oh.
- 56:45My God, you know what? We should do so.
- 56:46What? Journey.
- 56:47Have a disturbing. ASMR.
- 56:49Motivational quote podcast. We'll just say deluded things
- 56:54until get the girly. Pops falls we.
- 56:56Should say deluded book? Quotes OH.
- 56:58My God, yes, we should just say have plenty.
- 57:01We should save. I'm up for the end of the year
- 57:02and do like a ending year special.
- 57:05Oh beautiful, we'll just have one ASMR episode, just randomly.
- 57:09No prelude, it'll just be called and just be like, yeah, Squam,
- 57:15you're gonna wake up in the slate just like, out of date.
- 57:18Till like you have a date sort of phrases.
- 57:20Hate them girls. Yeah, just be like your eyebrows
- 57:24are on flake. Just like slightly out of drink
- 57:27and. We can say offhanded quotes from
- 57:30books. Yeah, like that means.
- 57:31True, that's a lot of research. I read what I read a quote the
- 57:34other day. No, just as we read them.
- 57:36I read 1 the other day and it was like a man wrote a woman and
- 57:39he was like she rolled her eyes and her breasts rolled at the
- 57:43same time. Where?
- 57:46Are they going? Are they leaving the chat?
- 57:48How do you unlock that feature? I don't think I've had that
- 57:51system update. I don't have enough boob to
- 57:54roll. Like where are they rolling to?
- 57:57South. Eventually.
- 58:02Honestly can't wait. Can't wait.
- 58:05Can't wait till we're just saggy and upset.
- 58:08Living. Gels titties on the floor.
- 58:10Good time knees. Puffy knees.
- 58:13Knees. Rigid.
- 58:15Just. Unworkable.
- 58:17By the end of this book, I wanted to punch the author
- 58:19because, you know, I hate a song selection.
- 58:23But to be fair, this went with the plot though, so I'm gonna
- 58:25give it a pass because, you know, I hate it when they put a
- 58:27playlist. But this was.
- 58:29Her passion. Also, let's be real, most
- 58:32Walters are in fact older ladies.
- 58:36Older, not old 40 year old ladies.
- 58:40And I don't want to listen to what they're listening to.
- 58:44Especially if it's the to do with teenage sex cults.
- 58:47You know it's. Always.
- 58:49Those books that have the playlist, I'm like, why?
- 58:52Towards the end, the thing that did bug me, which it's a teenage
- 58:56book so I'll give it a pass again, but and I understand it's
- 58:59prom so everyone wants to be paired up, but this was very
- 59:02heterosexual. Everyone has a perfect pair up
- 59:05and I was just like that makes my eye.
- 59:07Gaze. But also like it's just dumb not
- 59:10everyone has a perfect match just waiting to.
- 59:13Not all of them did. They all did groups.
- 59:16A lot of them did friend groups. But I just feel like towards the
- 59:18end everyone got paired up. It is a Romy.
- 59:21Russell my Jimmies. That's it.
- 59:24Wow. I mean, I liked it 'cause it was
- 59:25something different. Honestly, I'm.
- 59:27Not even mad about it. Honestly, sometimes you need to
- 59:30read AY. A to something surface level.
- 59:34Something cute, Yeah. Just give me something mid.
- 59:37Don't get me wrong, I do love a good smut sometimes, but also I
- 59:41don't wanna read about fucking every two pages.
- 59:44Now you gotta have the tension and then the right.
- 59:46Amount of sex I my favorite thing in books is tension, so I
- 59:49feel like this book was 99% tension so I'm like it's fine
- 59:53anyway. And it's hilarious because I do
- 59:54this to myself all the time. But I want slow burn.
- 59:57But I don't want to read a whole series, you know what I mean?
- 1:00:00Like I want, I want them to be someone with someone wrong for
- 1:00:03the burst and then play that all out.
- 1:00:05But I don't want to read it anymore.
- 1:00:06You would. Be horrified by Zodiac Academy
- 1:00:10because it is a slow. It's like a bully enemies to
- 1:00:13love. It's right but the slow burn is
- 1:00:15like 7 books and it's not like 300 page books.
- 1:00:18It's 700 page books and it just keeps going and going and going.
- 1:00:23See, I kind of like that idea, but I would never put the book
- 1:00:25in. Yeah, you know what I mean.
- 1:00:27You don't read them over time. It's giving Lauren order SVU.
- 1:00:32Grey's Anatomy. But you know how in Lauren Order
- 1:00:35SVU, the main characters haven't got together and it's like 30
- 1:00:38seasons long? Yeah, and they haven't even
- 1:00:40finished the show yet, so they're questioning whether they
- 1:00:43will or I will not. Watch.
- 1:00:45I will not watch them. That's the.
- 1:00:46Slowest burn in the history of the whole like universe of TV
- 1:00:49show. Decrepit at that point they are.
- 1:00:52They started in their 30s and they nearly.
- 1:00:53Went to kiss, there was a preview for an upcoming episode.
- 1:00:56They nearly went to kiss and then she goes.
- 1:00:58I'm not ready, Ellie. Bitch, you're.
- 1:01:01Nearly ready for the. Grave.
- 1:01:03How are you not ready? Honestly.
- 1:01:06If anyone. Out there.
- 1:01:09You understand my pain. OK this.
- 1:01:11Is the angst I want. I want them to be in the ground,
- 1:01:14dusty. I'm like kind of a way where
- 1:01:16they're like fucking bombs dead. Dead, Yeah, bombs.
- 1:01:20Cancer. Insane kidnappings. 10 things
- 1:01:23happening each episode. And I'm like, damn, slow down.
- 1:01:26Honestly, I want to start watching Law and Order SVS from
- 1:01:30scratch proper. See you never.
- 1:01:32Literally bye bye I'll just go into my cave now and quit my
- 1:01:36full time job. You'll never just watch it at
- 1:01:39your full time job. Just put it up in the corner.
- 1:01:42Oh. My God everyone would love that.
- 1:01:44Just be like. Hang on just a minute.
- 1:01:47Just. Hold, hold that thought.
- 1:01:49We'll get back to it. What should we rate this out of?
- 1:01:53Jock straps. Yes, why not?
- 1:01:55Why not make it a bit spicy? I'm going to give it three out
- 1:01:59of five jock straps just because it's exactly.
- 1:02:02It was the perfect timing for me.
- 1:02:03Yeah. I was like, this is what I need.
- 1:02:05There's something low stakes but slightly irritating enough to
- 1:02:08keep me listening. And Wes as a male character was
- 1:02:12decent. Yeah.
- 1:02:13He's not horrific, you know what I mean?
- 1:02:15I'm also. Giving another 3 three out of
- 1:02:18five jock straps. Yay.
- 1:02:20We nice. Love, I love not being offended
- 1:02:22by male characters. Honestly.
- 1:02:25But it wasn't like, annoyingly fake male character, if that
- 1:02:30makes sense. Like, too good to be true.
- 1:02:31Yeah, I was like, oh, this is kind of weird.
- 1:02:33He's. Still a little low key bullied
- 1:02:35her. I feel like if I was to write
- 1:02:37this book I would have made Wes just an absolute maniac, just an
- 1:02:41absolute fuck boy, and I would have just ruined it for every
- 1:02:44girl reading. No, because.
- 1:02:46The. Whole point was he was in love
- 1:02:48with me. No, but I.
- 1:02:49Wanted to fuck it up? This book is the next one where
- 1:02:52he used to listen to her play piano every day.
- 1:02:55Yeah, he was this one. Yeah.
- 1:02:56When he was a little kid, the dad exposed him.
- 1:02:58Yeah, the dad. Really.
- 1:03:00I was like, this man has been pining his entire life.
- 1:03:03He's not. Really a fuck.
- 1:03:04Maybe I've just read too many of those stupid bully teenage ones
- 1:03:07that I'm just, I'm waiting for the other shoe to drop and I'm
- 1:03:10like, Wes, what's going on? And it's not even his.
- 1:03:12Case it's just him being good. Her little Wesley.
- 1:03:16Wesley. That's remember how.
- 1:03:18Like she was calling him Wesley. But that's because he asked her
- 1:03:21to. Little wussy.
- 1:03:23Little wuss, was his name. Western Wesley.
- 1:03:26Wesley. Where's where?
- 1:03:28We'll see. I.
- 1:03:29Don't know what what would his name be?
- 1:03:32Wesley. It was either Wesley or Western
- 1:03:34I. Think it was Wesley.
- 1:03:36Yuck. I'll don't be naming your kids
- 1:03:39Wesley. Get in the car, Wesley.
- 1:03:42Get in the car, Wesley Booth. So anyway, that's it.
- 1:03:49Hey, yeah, thanks for joining us on Lose the Plot with Carla and
- 1:03:52Emily. Don't forget to rate US five
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