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- 0:04Rudy Ferguson has decided to take on incumbent Jack Porter for seat one on the
- 0:09Tallassee City Commission. Now I need to mention that Commissioner Porter did not accept
- 0:15an invitation to have a chat. So here's my conversation with Pastor Ferguson.
- 0:22Rudy, it's great to formally meet you. Appreciate you coming in this morning.
- 0:27Thank you so much for an invitation. I really appreciated. Thank you.
- 0:32It is it's not uncommon for me to talk to someone who's a pastor.
- 0:37I was a vocational pastor for about twenty years. Awesome, but I
- 0:42never ever would have considered running for political office. There that get it.
- 0:49And so tell me what nudged you, what brought you to a place where
- 0:54you felt like this was something you Did you feel called to do it or
- 0:58did you feel like you needed to do it? Why? I think they're
- 1:00probably one of the same, the call and the need simply because as a
- 1:03pastor in our neighborhood, you know, oftentimes we have quite a few people
- 1:08who are running for office who always come to our churches, who always act
- 1:11for support, and they make promises and they never really make keep those promises,
- 1:18let's be honest sometimes and then they never come back to whether they win
- 1:23or lose, they never come back to say thank you. As a pastor
- 1:26of my community, it's important that people depend on me to make sure that
- 1:30the right individuals are coming in our community and also addressing our needs. Oftentimes,
- 1:37I've worked with plenty of elected officials, some didn't win, some did
- 1:40win, and I've had the privilege of working with them and also given our
- 1:44story, what do we need in particular in our neighborhood, which is the
- 1:47greater French Town community in Griffinheit, which we know is the three two three
- 1:52four area code, which is the most in Parvish according to the statistics in
- 1:57the state of Florida. And so push me towards that wells. You know,
- 2:01if you want to get something done right, sometimes it's best to just
- 2:04do it yourself. And as a community activist and working along with our city,
- 2:09the mayor and the commissioners and county commissioners to bring some resolve to our
- 2:14community, I decided, why would I wait for someone you know, a
- 2:17savior so to speak, to come to our community when I have been doing
- 2:21this work for a very long time and I decided they're wanting the same,
- 2:24whether it's in the pulpit or whether it's on the pavement. Let's see if
- 2:28we can move this needle. So I was encouraged by my own heart and
- 2:31pushed by my wife to ensure that. She said, Honey, go forward.
- 2:35If you want to see this happen. You've been working with the city
- 2:38a long time. You've been working with the county for a long time.
- 2:40In our communities. Go forward. Let's change the optics in front of us
- 2:45and make sure that our community, our kids, this city overall gets where
- 2:50we need to go collectively. Before we talk about what that looks like to
- 2:55you moving forward, let's go back a little bit and get everybody a snapshot
- 3:00of who you are. Thank you well. I am a sixth generation Tallahassee
- 3:06and that's the Ferguson that, that's the Christie's, the Jones and the Knights
- 3:10all put all my family members in there. So been here a very long
- 3:14time. I went to Amos P. Godby. I've started working for the
- 3:16Tallahassee Urbanly when I was about seventeen years of age, and they taught me
- 3:21how to be a community serving if you will, or more so elited leadership,
- 3:28and it gave me that sense of work. And I've got married pretty
- 3:31much out of high school. We got married at by twenty and I'm proud
- 3:35to say we have been married now thirty two years. We have about thank
- 3:38you, We've got about four grown children, thank god. We also have
- 3:43about six grandchildren, maybe seven. I think it's seven in the county when
- 3:46they move around a lodge got to miss Poplins County. My daughter and my
- 3:51son and we have been working in Tallahassee for a very long time and serving
- 3:54our community. What led me up to this point as well as far as
- 3:59my background is concerned, I kind of had a strong idea that I wanted
- 4:03to be a part of the community and be a part of bringing out a
- 4:06community what it used to look like as much as we possibly can that village
- 4:11concept, if you will, President, How do we get that where we
- 4:15care about each other, what we love about, what we love on each
- 4:16other. I thought it was important enough for even with my own sons and
- 4:21my own my daughter and my cousins and my friends, to see where,
- 4:26you know, how do we make things better in this city? My background,
- 4:31again, I was able to work for Governor Law and Childs when I
- 4:35was twenty three years of age. He pointed me to the MLK Institute for
- 4:40Nonviolence as the state's sole youth representative. So I traveled the country speaking on
- 4:45behalf of nonviolence and how do we, you know, make sure we get
- 4:49the guns down and get our kids in school and make sure they live along,
- 4:53long life ngevity, have that in place. We also I was also
- 4:58given an opportunity by former Attorney General Bob Butterworth, who gave me the Citizens
- 5:01of the Year award when I was about twenty five, and not to mention
- 5:08traveling with him a little bit and speaking on issues with about gun violence and
- 5:12things of that nature, not just for gun violence but also just violent crimes
- 5:15holistically. I would also say that I've received a number of awards for my
- 5:19service in the community, but Preston is never about the awards. It's the
- 5:24award to me is watching our children and our community to grow, making sure
- 5:30that they're safe. And I take a great sense of pride in doing that.
- 5:33And I'm not looking for a pat on the back of or reward,
- 5:36just simply wanted to see our kids, my kids, your kids, grandkids,
- 5:41all have something that they can look forward to down the line. So,
- 5:45in a nutshell, that's Rudy Ferguson. I have been doing this radio
- 5:50program Rooty for twenty two now into my twenty third year. I've lived here
- 5:57since nineteen eighty seven. Not near the deep generational ties that you have,
- 6:02but this is my home I recognize, and you know, one of the
- 6:08things I joke with people about, you want evidence there's a God. It's
- 6:11that a conservative who's a Christian can sustain a radio program for twenty two years
- 6:17in a community that a lot of people don't agree with my politics. There's
- 6:23evidence of a God to me right there. I say that because one of
- 6:30the interesting dynamics that exists right now in the city is it is not district
- 6:34representation. I think it needs to change. I think being the only city
- 6:42in the state of Florida with a population above one hundred thousand that does not
- 6:46have district representation is embarrassing. But that said, it is what it is.
- 6:54There are a lot of people that might align with my views on things
- 7:00that listen to my radio program and are probably listening to this podcast right now.
- 7:04Now. Clearly I have people that don't agree with me that listen every
- 7:06day, and I love it. I welcome it. I love talking with
- 7:10people that I disagree with, because that's something that's missing today is the ability
- 7:15to have the conversation. And so what is it that you feel like you
- 7:24could offer people that live in the northeast part, the east part of Tallahassee
- 7:30that don't feel like they have a voice at all because they're not represented district
- 7:36wise, and they get it. You know, you live in a part
- 7:42of town. We work in a part of town that certainly deserves representation that's
- 7:47focused on that. But what would you say to people that are feeling a
- 7:50little left out? Well, I think I agree with you one hundred percent.
- 7:55You know, when you think about the makeup of Tallahassee very unique.
- 8:00Everything about us is unique, and so we have to handle our city with
- 8:03kid gloves. We have to do that because we're not a major metropolitan city
- 8:07and we don't need to be like Portland. We don't need to be Seattle,
- 8:11we don't need to be San Francisco, and so representation at city Hall
- 8:18has been lacked there. I can say that certainly you we all agree with
- 8:20that. The thing that I would like to bring a city commissioner is number
- 8:24one civility. Let's bring back the common sense, the decorum, if you
- 8:28will, of how do we deal with the issues on the northeast side of
- 8:31town or on the south east side of town? How do we deal with
- 8:33those issues collectively? I think that with non district represented representation, that doesn't
- 8:39in my expectation and when my perspective, it doesn't mean that we can't get
- 8:45the job done. As a commission I want to work and I will build
- 8:48a coalition of those on the northeast side of town, the south side of
- 8:52town, and the north northwest side of town, wherever may me be,
- 8:56in order to make sure that we have that common goal. How do we
- 9:00how do we get to that police of how do we make sure that my
- 9:03tax dollars are spent correctly? How do it? It's interesting that you say
- 9:07that because, for example, and one of the beauties of our format is
- 9:09I don't have to worry about a commercial interruption here. We can just talk
- 9:13and as I and for those of you listening, I didn't submit questions to
- 9:20Pastor Ferguson. I didn't submit questions to anyone that I've invited to come in
- 9:24here. Some aren't going to accept the invitation. I can probably guess who
- 9:28won't. But we want to just talk and have an open conversation about things.
- 9:33One of the things that you just mentioned there about the different parts of
- 9:37town is how do you propose hearing from them? In other words, some
- 9:46people have said, well, you know what, it'd be great if like
- 9:48some of the city commissioners would set up a time to come talk to us
- 9:52where we're living, you know, at a community center in the northeast or
- 9:56or somewhere in the east, norwester or wherever. What is a way that
- 10:01you feel as though, Rudy, we can solicit input from people who right
- 10:07now might not feel their voices being heard at all. That's that's a very
- 10:11great question, because I believe relationships are so important. Sure building relationships.
- 10:16I believe that as a commission in your next city commission, I put that
- 10:20on the table is simply that I will go out there. I will set
- 10:22up a meeting at the neighborhood recreational center, whether it be one of the
- 10:26largest churches there, whatever we can do to hear their concerns. They are
- 10:31taxpayers, they live in this city, they contribute to the overall growth of
- 10:35this city. It's important that we go out there. Everybody can't make it
- 10:39to the three o'clock meeting in their city, all I understand that, but
- 10:43then they're not really designed to be friendly to people that want to say something.
- 10:46I would agree with children, they want to come out, and then
- 10:50it's not enough time. It's really and that's that's a whole lot to put
- 10:54in. And I can imagine I couldn't put a sermon in three minutes,
- 10:56you know, and maybe a scripture and a title. Now that's a wrap.
- 11:00But I would serve head. The thing that I could do is go
- 11:05out there. Let's set up a time, have everyone come to the room,
- 11:07let's talk. Whether I have solutions at that moment is not important.
- 11:11What's important is I'm coming to hear their concerns. Go back to the city
- 11:16halls, sit around the table, talk to who's important. Hey, you
- 11:18know, miss Jane and her husband have this issue, and mister Charlie has
- 11:22this issue her. How do we put all this together? That's what a
- 11:26commissioner does. It's servant leadership. We're not in this for fame or glory.
- 11:31We're in this for service. How do we make sure that we move
- 11:33the needle for the people on this side of town. We go to them,
- 11:37how often we go to them? You know, I can attend one
- 11:41of their neighborhood association meetings and invite me to that, I will come.
- 11:45They have any church services that they would like me to be a part of,
- 11:48I will come. I love church, so I would certainly love to
- 11:52be a part of that. But the thing that I would love to bring
- 11:54to the table is my ears, listening to what's important to them, hanging
- 12:00that back to city Hall, begin to work it. And the most important
- 12:03part not just listen, give them something back tangible, Say hey, miss
- 12:07Jane, and I heard you. Here's what I'm working on, here's what
- 12:11I found out. Push that back to them. I believe that if people
- 12:15know that you have heard them and you're working, they're patient enough to make
- 12:18sure that you're able to do your job. You know, I've had people
- 12:22contact me now I'm not a commissioner now, you know, and contact me
- 12:24about certain things in their neighborhood. They want me to be aware of it.
- 12:28In fact, I went to a neighborhood this weekend, just jumped in
- 12:31the truck, came over. She showed me what was her concerned. She
- 12:33said, I know you're not commissioned yet, but when you get in office,
- 12:35could you see about this particular issue. I wrote it down, I
- 12:39told her I would. Her name is Miss Annie, and I said I
- 12:41will, Miss Annie, and and I'm grateful of that, grateful for that
- 12:45because I want to be able to be that commissioner without devices and divisions and
- 12:50preconceived notions and positions on what city commission and what a city commissioner should do.
- 12:58I definitely want to get to the commission as it has functioned and what
- 13:01it's focused on. But before we go there, I looked at your website
- 13:07a little bit. Didn't do any deep dive because I don't like asking questions
- 13:11that are beyond where the average person listening is at. Gotcha, most people
- 13:15haven't visited your website. They don't know much about you. Gotcha, what
- 13:20before you started talking to people? What informed you about what you would list
- 13:26as the most important issues that you think need to be addressed from a commission
- 13:31standpoint? What did you go into it thinking? And then as you have
- 13:37met the Miss Annies and others in the community, has it changed or has
- 13:43it simply amplified what you originally thought. In other words, what are priorities
- 13:48what matters most to you? Well, I think I'm not That's a very
- 13:50good question question for me. I would simply say, as a boots on
- 13:56the ground must leaves are always rolled up. I'm always got manned in the
- 14:00dirt. And what I mean by that is, I'm always working, I'm
- 14:01always got my ear in the in the neighborhood, I'm in the barbershops,
- 14:05I'm listening. So what also caught my attention? As we see in the
- 14:11news, and also I've had the unfortunate opportunity to eulogize, you know,
- 14:16those who died violently and particularly with guns, and and and it's a disheartening
- 14:22thing. So my priorities, prior to running and filing to run for office,
- 14:28what's public safety? Taler hassee? Cannot become the worst as they have
- 14:33us in the newspaper. You know, we're worse than Miami, Florida.
- 14:35And I know that's per capita, But nevertheless, I don't like that because
- 14:41this is my home, this is where I live. I don't want people
- 14:43contemplating whether or not they want to send their kids to Florida State or fam
- 14:48You and they're thinking, well, crime, because I do know that's the
- 14:50first thing a responsible parent would do was looking to see house crime in that
- 14:54city. Do I want to send my kid in that city? And Tyler
- 14:58hassee is worse than Miami, Florida Jacksonville. So that would be that would
- 15:03be my first priority. Public safety. Let's deal with making Tallahassee safer.
- 15:07Let's deal with solving crimes. Let's deal with all those aspects. So you
- 15:13and I, our families were able to go to the grocery store, whether
- 15:16it be a nighttime, whether it be a daytime, whatever it is,
- 15:20and they feel safe in this city. That's important to me and that's a
- 15:22priority. I would also say my second priority, Preston, would be homelessness.
- 15:28We cannot and I say this with all sincerity as a pastor, as
- 15:33a concerned citizen with the heart of God, I would simply say this is
- 15:37that, but Talahassee cannot become a national We cannot afford a national migration of
- 15:43homeless people coming from all over the country to Tallahassee. It's not that we're
- 15:48insensitive, we just can't afford that type of migration. Mass people moving into
- 15:54Tallahassee, and I would argue it doesn't help people to enable them in their
- 15:58homelessness. I would agree we find the solutions. Now, what do I
- 16:02know the solution may be. I don't know, but I do know I
- 16:04will want to work with those who can address that. The subject matter experts,
- 16:10the people have been successful in other communities. It would seem that maybe
- 16:12we ought to ask what you do. But I'm not the sharpest knife in
- 16:18any drawer, Rudy, But I know that right, and I got you,
- 16:22and I certainly I think that's that's important. I've had the privilege of
- 16:26talking to people that have businesses on Pensacola Street and they've shared with me,
- 16:33and they said, Rudy, this is bad. I've got I've got homeless
- 16:37people living on top of my roof here and they're taking the car off of
- 16:41my roof. I've got people building tents and on the side of the building.
- 16:45I've got people doing this, and I've got people camped out in front
- 16:48of my you know, my store, which is a major deterrent for those
- 16:52customers. Because Taller Hassee is uh is a business town as well. When
- 16:57people who live here pay time, and they want to be able to take
- 17:00care of their families and they can't do that with a migration of homeless people.
- 17:04And not to sound insensitive, but realistically speaking, that business will go
- 17:08under if we as a city and all of us in this city work together
- 17:12to find that solution or solutions if you will. It seems as though both
- 17:17commissions have chosen the path of let's write a check to organizations with not a
- 17:23lot of accountability on where that money goes and how it's spent, versus let's
- 17:29address with policy, Let's let's determine what these guidelines need to look at look
- 17:34like rather so you know that regardless of the commissioners, both commissions have been
- 17:42resistant to picking up this responsibility. Well, and I've seen that, and
- 17:47I think it's more so. I think it's more so to the to the
- 17:51to the point where they're reprioritizing what's what's in front of them. In every
- 17:56commission meeting, you'll see something new, nip pop. But whether it's the
- 18:00charter review, whether it's that. But I think as a commissioner, we
- 18:04have to deal with that. When you're in office, there's nothing you can
- 18:07simply walk away from or pivot from and say, let let another commissioner deal
- 18:12with that. I think that problem will get worse, especially at homeless problem.
- 18:15It will get worse if we don't address it, and by the time
- 18:18we get to it, when we seriously want to address it, we might
- 18:22be truly behind the eight ball on that because we have allowed it to go
- 18:26on for so long. We want to be able to address that situation,
- 18:30to address that issue, and whatever we can to fix this crisis. It
- 18:34is a crisis and has it become a problem for not just for the business
- 18:38community, but also for those who live in this town, who work in
- 18:41this town, who pay taxes in this town. It has become a situation
- 18:45where they're living in the trees and they're living in this place, and I've
- 18:48come to realize that some people they would rather live on the streets, and
- 18:52that's something we also have to deal We have to put policies in place to
- 18:56eliminate that type of existence. You know, there's no doubt the state role
- 19:00in this, and I believe that the legislature, certainly the governor in the
- 19:03last session, address some of the homelessness by putting more responsibility on communities to
- 19:10deal with it. But you mentioned that there's some that just choose this lifestyle.
- 19:15You know, I've always felt that there was a triage required. There
- 19:18needed to be an addressing of okay, why are you out here? And
- 19:22they're those that are mentally ill and they need mental health services, and to
- 19:26me, that's where the state jumps in and starts providing more resources for mental
- 19:30health. There are those that are truly down on their luck and just need
- 19:36some help. They do not want to be in this situation. They need
- 19:38some help. But then there's that other element, and that other element is
- 19:42choosing this lifestyle. And you know, I think identifying the problem is key
- 19:49to solving it, but we've never seemed to want to take the effort to
- 19:53do that. But there's a Venn diagram here that you've already begun drawing in
- 19:59that your first priority his crime uring public safety, which to me is number
- 20:03one, and what a government's supposed to provided citizens second homelessness. But there's
- 20:07a there's an intersection there where there's some crime in that in that arena.
- 20:11What's third on your priority list? Jobs simply bringing better jobs in jobs period.
- 20:18Now my philosophy is this, I believe that when jobs go up,
- 20:22guns go down. That is simply my my belief. If I can give
- 20:26a young man a job, you know, and put him in place where
- 20:30you have a sense of pride, hope and also have a sense of you
- 20:33know, being becoming a positive, productive citizen, I believe that we can
- 20:37begin to bring that number down. The vunent crimes, gun crimes, homelessness,
- 20:41all of that will come down because, like we said earlier, there
- 20:45are some people who just choose to live on the streets. But those who
- 20:48are just simply down on their look and they're looking for an opportunity, those
- 20:52are the ones that we'll be able to catch with a good job, with
- 20:55the you know, we're they able to take care of themselves, whether they
- 20:56have to provide for themselves. So I am coming into town was a very
- 21:00good thing. Yes, sir, went out of shadow the doubt. And
- 21:03unfortunately my opponent, you know, was the only commissioner to say it was
- 21:07a bad idea to come to Tallahassee. If you really look at that press.
- 21:11And I have to say this is so important because in three two,
- 21:14three oh four, which again we talk about the most imparvish, the thing
- 21:18is that about two hundred and ten employees and residents from that zip code now
- 21:22work for Amazon. I was going to ask you if you knew the number.
- 21:26I didn't know the number. Well done, thank you, sir and
- 21:29so. And I thought about it. I said, now we can start
- 21:30walking out of the most in parvish and start walking into the most emerging coming
- 21:36out of this, you know. And it's a sense of pride when I
- 21:38matter of fact, I can go make it personal. My own son,
- 21:41my youngest son, works for Amazon. And do you know how good I
- 21:45feel when my son don't have to call and say, hey, pop,
- 21:48um a little short on some money, you know, and he's able to
- 21:49take care of himself, able to provide. Well, you yourself said,
- 21:53how many generations deeper you in this six? Yes? All right? How
- 21:59I know that since I moved here in nineteen eighty seven, if we just
- 22:03use the term French Town broadly that part of the community, there have been
- 22:08at least four or five very directed efforts to revitalize to help the area.
- 22:17But what really starts to change the dynamic from my view, You correct me
- 22:22if I'm wrong, is when someone like an Amazon comes in and provides great
- 22:27jobs at high numbers of jobs available. That's what changes that area. Am
- 22:37I right or wrong? Absolutely correct? But that's the change. You know.
- 22:40All the other efforts were fine and well intentioned. I'm not demeaning them,
- 22:44but they didn't really move the needle. I agree. The thing that
- 22:48moves the needle is that the ability for a person to take care of themselves,
- 22:52improve their quality of life, give them a sense of hope and pride,
- 22:56and also become a pod of the citizens here in tylerhassee Florida. When
- 23:00a person actually can do that, the ultimate goal for me, Presston in
- 23:04getting jobs is also having nice wage where they can go out now, have
- 23:10some disposable income where they can go to them all, where they can go
- 23:12to our restaurants, where they can patronize our local business here and have that
- 23:17money recycle back through our town. Sure that eliminates us from having to raise
- 23:22taxes, which, by the way, I'm totally against raising. I don't
- 23:25want to put that burden on a hard working family. I don't want to
- 23:27say, well we need this, let's raise taxes. No, let's find
- 23:32other means resources. How do we undergird or underwrite rather and expense what I'm
- 23:37having to come to a single mother and a single family who are doing their
- 23:41very best they can to stay afloat, and I add a come along,
- 23:45and I add another burden. As far as tax, even though it may
- 23:48be for something essential, I don't want to do that. I want to
- 23:51be able to find and as a commission I want to be able to work
- 23:53with everyone to find that coming. I think the phrase I'm looking for is
- 23:56fiscal responsibility. Want to be able to stay with that parameters and make sure
- 24:00they were able to move them so Tallahassekin and people can enjoy a living here.
- 24:06You mentioned the tax issue. That's a very nuanced issue because the incumbent
- 24:11Commissioner, Jack Porter, voted against the tax increase. But the reason she
- 24:18voted against the tax increase was because she did not want monies going to Tallahassee
- 24:23police, which is what the justification was given by the other three commissioners that
- 24:30voted for the tax increase. And so Rudy, when I talk to people
- 24:33about it, I say to them, don't be misled by commissioners voting against
- 24:40the tax increase that, oh, by the way, before they were in
- 24:42favor of. Instead, look at the deeper issue And the deeper issue to
- 24:48me is should they have raised taxes. No, they should have found the
- 24:52money in the revenues that they had and allocated differently so the TPD had adequate
- 24:59funding. But don't buy the argument that the reason why this tax increase was
- 25:04fought was because they are opposing taxes. That's not honest. That is not
- 25:11honest. But do the people that you're talking to understand because right now your
- 25:18primary opponent, who's the incumbent, and anyone running for any office, the
- 25:22opponent is the incumbent because they're the incumbent. Sir. They're out there saying
- 25:26we're anti tax but deep down, no, they were anti police. I
- 25:30agree with you one. And to have my opponent to simply say that she
- 25:36does not feel safe with Chief Rebels or with our law enforcement agent is a
- 25:41slap in the face of those who put on the badge, the gun and
- 25:45know everything they need to go out and serve and protect this city. I
- 25:49don't like the phrase, and I've had the privilege of working along with the
- 25:52Chief. Rebels as is first chairman of the Tallahassee Citizens' Advisory Council, different
- 26:00from the city's Policemen's Review Committee. Didn't want to be a part of that
- 26:06because I believe that I would rather work along with law enforcement to bridge the
- 26:11gap between our most vulnerable communities, in particular black communities, and our law
- 26:15enforcement bring it together. But that's certainly not the enemy. There is no
- 26:21perfect person and there's no perfect agency. But holistically, I believe that our
- 26:26law enforcement agent I've had the privilege of working with them, they have a
- 26:30mindset. Hey, Rudy, we want to serve, we want to protect,
- 26:33we want to make sure. And I have to respect the fact that
- 26:37they're able to move so quickly to apprehend a crime, a criminal who has
- 26:41done something to victimize our city or family. And I respect that, and
- 26:45I respect them as well as our fire department. I respect them all of
- 26:49our essential services for doing what they do to go out and serve and protect
- 26:53and make sure our city is safe and secure. But my opponent feels then
- 27:00it's about the taxes. No, we all know, And I explained that
- 27:03to them, she's simply against TPD, she's simply against law enforcement. Anti
- 27:10law enforcement, I would sing, And it's a deeper thing to come against
- 27:14one one's essential service. And then at the same token try to uplift another
- 27:18one. I think all of our essential services are important, and how is
- 27:22your next commissioner, I would balance the two between the fire department as well
- 27:26as the law enforcement agencies. If you had been sitting in the room as
- 27:30an elected official when they were having the discussion over taxes and whether to raise
- 27:36the millage and raise more money for the purpose of funding the police department to
- 27:42a better level, because everybody in this community knows they were underfunded for maybe
- 27:48fifteen years, and so we're almost catching up to a certain extent. But
- 27:56if you're in the room, if you're sitting there with the other four commissioners,
- 28:00pastor, are you having the discussion, because what I heard you saying
- 28:04is we may not have needed to raise taxes, we needed to look at
- 28:11the allocation of what revenues were coming in and allocated differently so that TPD was
- 28:17properly funded. I would agree with that. Is that the discussion you were
- 28:19comfortable having. I was just I'm very comfortable with having that because again,
- 28:25I want to ensure that law enforcement and everything they need in order to do
- 28:30their jobs effectively. Is that first is that for funding public you know,
- 28:33public safety yes, that's first, because everything else falls behind it. And
- 28:38I say that because if we're not safety and crime is running rampiant, what
- 28:41businesses want to come here? Secondly, what family wanted to send their children
- 28:45here for school? And then those who live here we start contemplating whether it's
- 28:49time to get out. So these are all of the negative attributes that follow
- 28:55behind that, and we want to ensure public safety. Then after public safety,
- 28:57homelessness, and after homelessness, let's deal with jobs, you know,
- 29:00economic development. How do we bring that into play? Those are the most
- 29:04important. But to answer your question, if I was there, I would
- 29:07look for other avenues. How do we three commissioners that passed it. I
- 29:11mean, granted I would rather have them reallocated funds. They didn't have that
- 29:17discussion either, so they gave ample room for others to try to make this
- 29:22trojan horse kind of canard argument that they are opposed taxes. No, they're
- 29:26posted funding police. And I think that's the main reason why my opponent has
- 29:30really went for this, because it's not about giving it's not about the taxes.
- 29:34They used it as they weaponized that rather in order to further their agenda.
- 29:41And I would say go further, say the Bernie Sanda school of thought.
- 29:44You know, how do we change this and turn city hall upside down
- 29:48not for the sole purpose of serving, you know, the people live in
- 29:51this city, but also but dividing the people that live in this city.
- 29:56I'm not into briefings, you know, with our city managers. So I'm
- 30:00almost like the rest of the citizens. I have to take what's in front
- 30:03of me and make a decision based on that. But I truly believe that
- 30:07it's important. I want to ensure that our law enforcement agencies have what they
- 30:11need. In particular, when a cat and when a cadet comes out of
- 30:15the academy, we want to make sure that we're competitive enough to get those
- 30:18and keep those. We don't want them coming here, getting educated in that
- 30:22field and then having to go to Tampa. And we did the training,
- 30:25and we did the training. So we educate them, Preston, then we
- 30:27exterminate them. You know, that's not the goal. The goal is if
- 30:30we educate them, let's put them on the payroll because they're ours, and
- 30:36I want to ensure that we're competitive. I understood that. I want to
- 30:37make sure that they have the proper gear on each in every law enforcement officer
- 30:45male female, are brave. They get up in the morning, leave their
- 30:48home with the hope and prayer that they'll make it back to their families.
- 30:52I want to ensure that they're able to do their job and then go home
- 30:57and hug on their family as I made it back. That's important to me.
- 31:02So we don't look at law enforcement offices as robocops, you know,
- 31:06and we look at them as humans. And they are humans. They are
- 31:08taxpayers and they serve the city, and we want to take that same respect
- 31:11and that done over to the firefighters. We want to make sure that everybody
- 31:15has that level of across the board. I live here, I play here,
- 31:21I serve here, and I want to enjoy living here. I wish
- 31:26that we could avoid this part of the conversation. But the fact of the
- 31:30matter is you are running against Jack Porter, who's seeking reelection. She sat
- 31:36in the chair next to where you're sitting right now when she ran for office,
- 31:41and she didn't necessarily represent what she really thought and what she really believed
- 31:47in what she was really going to do when she sat in that chair.
- 31:51So I'm betting that she's not going to take me up on the invitation to
- 31:55come and sit and talk. You know, I don't engage in god her.
- 32:00I would just like to follow up on the things she said versus the
- 32:02things she's done. But one of the things that she has done is she
- 32:07has chosen to use her time as an elected official to go to national conferences
- 32:16in things with organizations that have a very radical agenda. I know that there
- 32:24will be issues politically where you and I philosophically will be different because you're a
- 32:30Democrat. I'm a Republican and I'm okay with that. I'm very comfortable with
- 32:35that. I am that said, I am not comfortable with where part of
- 32:39the Democrat Party has gone. And I believe Commissioner Porter represents that. Are
- 32:45you concerned about her unwillingness to simply answer who paid for these trips? Who
- 32:51paid for this expense? Did the taxpayers pay for this? And she's not
- 32:55willing to answer simple routine questions. I agree. That's the thing about becoming
- 33:01a public servant. Your life is now public, and as elected officials,
- 33:07we are beholding to those who put us in office and those who live in
- 33:12the city, whether you voted for me or not. That's a mood point,
- 33:15I'm still responsible to answer the questions that you've asked me. My life,
- 33:20even as a pastor, my life is already on display, you know,
- 33:22and so going into public office simply just I'm already in that ram.
- 33:28And so when questions publicer the public. I love that publicer, you know,
- 33:31and I think that's important, the questions that she does want to ask.
- 33:34And that makes people think, Preston, why why didn't you want to
- 33:37talk about it? Why aren't you addressing these illegitimate questions If it's not a
- 33:40big deal to answer the question. Otherwise it immediately turns it into a bigger
- 33:45deal, as it certainly does. And of course, you know, as
- 33:50a commissioner, your next commissioner, because I put that there. As your
- 33:52next commissioner, you know, you want to make sure that transparency is there.
- 33:57You're expecting us to live above board, expecting us to make sure that
- 34:00we hope we stand accountable for what we are doing. And I want to
- 34:04be in that, in that realm of saying, hey, Preston, this
- 34:07is where we are. Pick up the phone, not just on your show,
- 34:08but pick up the phone and say listen, I've got an idea.
- 34:12Because I want to work with the Republicans, I work with the Democrats,
- 34:15I will work with independence, I'll work with social service in the churches.
- 34:19Why because I want to make sure that Tallahassee is collectively sound and then we're
- 34:23moving together as one city in light of our political differences. But we all
- 34:30live here in Tallahassee, and I believe the commonwealth of the people is.
- 34:34That's what the commission and this is a nonpartisan race, and so we can't
- 34:37get wrapped up in this into that we get wrapped up into the fact that
- 34:40the people are requiring us and hoping that we will represent them whole realistically across
- 34:45the board, whether it be on the South or whether it be on the
- 34:47north. Bring it together, let's find that common ground. Well, you
- 34:52say it's nonpartisan, but you know it's not, because the Progressive Operatives are
- 35:00are already trying to throw more than likely a quote Republican in a different race,
- 35:06and no one knows anything about this person, but it's designed to bleed
- 35:10votes and cause people in the northeast and maybe in the southeast and maybe in
- 35:15the eastern part of the area to vote for quote a Republican that they see
- 35:22on the ballot, but it's not about that. But what would you say,
- 35:28because I would point to the election of John Daly as mayor over Christen
- 35:31Doser, and I would say to you that the people listening to you right
- 35:37now are the ones that made that happen. They are the ones that swung
- 35:43that vote for John Daly, not because he's a consummate friend of the Northeast,
- 35:50but because they looked at the alternative and said, yeah, no,
- 35:54what would you say to people that, quite frankly, they are Republicans.
- 36:00There isn't a Republican running in your race. They're not. There are different
- 36:06shades of Democrat, Yes it is right, Yes it is. There are
- 36:08people that are what I would call what I hear from you as you are
- 36:13what I would call an old school Democrat, a moderate. I could be
- 36:16wrong, but that's what I would interpret your beliefs as being. Having not
- 36:22gone any deeper. And the reason why I didn't go deeper, Rudy,
- 36:24is because a lot of the issues that some of the city commissioners want to
- 36:30make an issue have nothing to do with Tallahassee. I agree, they're taking
- 36:35nationalized issues and trying to create them as an issue. Here when they don't
- 36:39exist, I agree, would you want under present? So what would you
- 36:43say to people that are I'm not voting in the city race because I live
- 36:47in the county, I don't have a vote. I pay to the city
- 36:51and a utility, but somehow I don't have a vote. So what would
- 36:54you say to those that do have a vote though, and they're having to
- 36:58choose? I would simply say that I respect John Daly. He is I
- 37:05consider him to be a friend, and I appreciate his endorsement of this seat.
- 37:09I've had the privilege again of working with him throughout the years when he
- 37:13first became when he first was elected to mayor. He has visited my community
- 37:17on several occasions. We are a food desert in my community, and he
- 37:22has led the charge to ensure that we have a new grocery store come into
- 37:25our community. So those who the elderly who have wheelchairs and they can't get
- 37:30to publics on Lake Kella, or they can't get to publics there on o'keller,
- 37:34but a neighborhood store will give them access to ride up there or even
- 37:38walk if necessary to the grocery store. That to me is as a major
- 37:44thumbs up to our mayor and to have his support and his endorsement. I
- 37:46would say to your listeners is that if Mayor John Daly understands and agrees with
- 37:52me, endorse me, then that's a signal to say that Rudy is on
- 37:57the right path to address the issues and the concerns about community. He believes
- 38:01what we believe. He believed that Tallahassee should grow responsibly. It's inevitable that
- 38:07we're going to grow. He believes in law enforcement, you know, he
- 38:10believes in the fire department. But I think people you know, and perhaps
- 38:16and again I'm not speaking for everybody, but I'm speaking for a lot of
- 38:21folks that I've been speaking to for twenty plus years. Yes, sir,
- 38:24they didn't vote for John, they voted against Christen. They had to make
- 38:35a practical, pragmatic choice, right because John, Quite honestly, I think
- 38:39his leadership on issues on the Commission as they sit right now have been lacking.
- 38:45I think people on the Commission that have been there needed to stand up
- 38:49when commissioners have called police that have been acquitted calling them cop killer cops.
- 38:54Wow, those are slanderous terms. I agree. The position is that some
- 39:00of the commissioners have taken that are extremist. Someone needs to stand up and
- 39:06say, wait a minute, that's not appropriate, right, And no one
- 39:09did that, And so I think I'm communicating to you there's people out there
- 39:16that simply voted for Mayor Daily because they felt he was the better of the
- 39:22two alternatives. I would agree. I want to give them a reason why
- 39:27you think they should vote for you, not as much against Jack Porter,
- 39:35for you versus others that are in the race as of now. And I
- 39:38will certainly say this, and I'm glad you made that clear, because I
- 39:43believe that I'm the better choice. I've worked along with our community. I've
- 39:47been serving in our community. This will be a continuation of me serving in
- 39:52our community in our city. My opponent has not had the mindset to produce
- 39:59anything other than than something from a national agenda, trying to bring different types
- 40:06of national agendas to a local economy to a local city that has no bearings.
- 40:12We have watched and we have observed where nothing has gotten done. Zero.
- 40:16She does not have the relationships, she does not have the coalitions,
- 40:21you know, and the only reason she is now visible She's been absent since
- 40:24twenty twenty is because she's running for reelection. This is simply playing well.
- 40:29And you mentioned early on in our visit there's just been a lack of collegiality
- 40:34in large part because of a couple of the commissioners. I agree, and
- 40:37we needed to. And I would also say, you need a commissioner that
- 40:39can think independent and not vote for the you know, simply with you know,
- 40:45the other commissioner on everything he produces. I think a commissioner must stand
- 40:50alone have its own thought process by talking to the people in the community to
- 40:53address their issues and their concerns. We can do that harmoniously. We can
- 40:59do that with decorum and not become enemies, and not become and not you
- 41:02know, throw, you know, name calling and things of that nature.
- 41:06But I believe we can do that with respect. Well. I always agree
- 41:09with the other commissioners. Probably not well, I always disagree with them on
- 41:13a lot of issues. Probably not. But I tell you one thing we
- 41:15will do. I would think independently, and I would think, you know,
- 41:19collectively, when it's necessary, when it's something that builds our sitting.
- 41:23I won't go up to the city commission to turn it upside down. For
- 41:28any type of political you know, antics, it will simply be because this
- 41:32I think this is fair and I think this is the way we should be
- 41:36looking at something. And if my colleagues on the city commission say, really,
- 41:38well, we don't see it that way, respectfully, I understand.
- 41:42But this is what not just what I see, but the citizens I've spoken
- 41:45through in the north side of town, they think this is going to hurt
- 41:50them now whether they vote for to vote against it. But I want to
- 41:53be able to make sure I represent it and without having someone beholding rather to
- 41:58someone who feel they put me in office. That's important. If someone wants
- 42:04to learn more about you, your website, what is it Rudy ferguson dot
- 42:08com, or simply give me a call. My number is eight five zero
- 42:13three three nine three six sixty one. Anything you want to share that we
- 42:17didn't get to, well, I want to say first thank you for having
- 42:21me on to your show, Plas. It has been an honor, you
- 42:23know, to talk to you. And all will close by saying closed by
- 42:27saying that I am the commissioner that will get the job done. I am
- 42:30the commissioner that will bring jobs to the city, relationships to the city and
- 42:37also make sure that we are that all American city that we live up to.
- 42:39It is my job. My family lives here, your family lives here,
- 42:44and I think we want to continue that even after we're gone. We
- 42:46want to make sure that our family are still have their roots in this city
- 42:51and able to continue on after we're gone. Thanks for the time, Thanks
- 42:54so much pressure for having met