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#278: Urban Legends: Bloody Mary (2005) · What's Your (Least) Favorite Scary Movie?

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Hello. What's your least favorite scary
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My name is Travis. My name is Jesse.
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And welcome everybody. We are continuing on with our
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prom month coverage this month. And today we're going to be
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doing our Patreon voted episode. And we asked you guys and you
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guys chose Urban Legends 3 Bloody Mary.
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Unless we understand that we haven't done the second one yet.
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Final cut. Yeah, but you really don't have
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to watch these movies in any kind of order.
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Like there's callbacks to the first one, but not enough that
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it actually matters. Yeah.
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And it's just like brief references.
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There's really not any continuity in this one.
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There's more so in the second one from the first one.
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Yeah, but even then it's not a ton.
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It's not. Yeah, it's.
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Not enough to make it. One character?
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Yeah, she's not in this one, so we don't have to worry about it.
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I wish we had Reese. You know, she could have been
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here. We could have had her, should
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have had her even. OK, it sounds like you've got
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some interesting facts to share with me momentarily.
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Oh, I got nothing about that. This is just opinion.
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Because you're like, she could have been, should have been,
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yeah. No, no, no.
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There's a couple people that could have showed in this movie
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that we might talk about. I think Rebecca Gayheart should
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be in every movie ever. Yeah, she could have, should
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have. That is one of the things that
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apparently she was rumored to be the reporter at the end of the
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movie, but it ended up not actually happening.
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I think it was like a rumor, like, hey, she's going to have a
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cameo in the end of the movie before it released, and then it
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released. Like, oh, that's not Rebecca
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Gayhart. So I heard this on another
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podcast that covered the first urban legend movie.
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Shout out teen creeps. Love that show.
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What up? They covered this and supposedly
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Rebecca Gayhart got into a car accident and it ended like with
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a person in the other car? What?
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At least I don't know if there were multiple or just one, but a
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person did die as a result of that and that's a big part of
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the reason why she like, stopped acting.
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Oh. She stopped.
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Acting, yeah. She's from my area, man.
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She's from Hazard, KY. That's wild.
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It is weird. Yeah, that's I've heard of that,
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but I didn't realize that's why she like had stopped acting.
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Yeah. Yeah, she was kind of like a
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thing of just like the 2000s and the 90s, it seems.
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Yeah, so. Well, OK, hey, we're starting
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off on a bright note here today. So how about we liven it up a
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little bit and let's do you have announcements?
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I do have an announcement and it's a very light announcement
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because the announcement is just crabs.
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Crabs. Those are to be or not to be.
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We actually had quite a bit of kind of nuanced discussion about
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the the line of good taste. Yeah, so.
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And Tally's barking. Holy shit, let's pause it.
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We had some really good discussion, both about the
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silliness of the movie, the practical effects, and then we
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had some really deep and nuanced discussion about the line of
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good taste. Yeah.
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So a lot of interesting things that we'd love to hear people's
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thoughts and opinions on as well.
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But mostly we just want everybody to watch Crabs.
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Yeah, for a movie like Crabs, it's it's surprisingly brought a
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good discussion. I feel we had a good time.
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It's a good time. Check that one out if you can.
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OK, well I have our poll results.
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Last week we discussed Night of the Creeps and there's a lot of
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creepy things in that movie. So we wanted to ask which is
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scarier, alien slugs, zombies, axe murderer or Brad?
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Well, 20% of you say alien slugs, 20% zombies, 10% axe
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murderer and 50% Brad. Yeah, correct.
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Yeah, you all voted right today. Good job.
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It is a matter of opinion, but the 50% of you, your opinion was
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correct. Yeah, and then we even get
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Zombie Brad. Yeah, with Alien Slug shooting
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out of his head. So.
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Yeah, he's, he's pretty fucking terrible in that.
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Yeah, yeah. All right, cool.
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Thanks everybody for participating often when we have
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a good old poll. All right, so with that out of
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the way, how about we start talking about Urban Legends 3?
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You just sounded like every sports commentator ever.
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I've been watching a lot of sports.
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I love it when we have a good old poll.
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Yeah. Oh man.
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Hell yeah. Yep, making them sex comments
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not even realizing them okay all right so urban legends 3 bloody
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Mary released July 19th 2005 we watched it on our DVD, which is
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how it released went straight to DVD and.
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What? Yeah.
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And if you, you. Whoa, that's just like an
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accusation. Want to watch it?
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You can watch it on Pluto TV right now.
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If you're wanting to stream it, that's the only option.
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And if you want to rent it, you can do that too.
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You can do on Amazon, Apple, YouTube, Fandango at home.
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You know where to go. It's there.
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Written by This is going to be weird.
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This is a weird team that we've assembled for this movie, OK?
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Written by Dan Harris. OK, that's not the weird part.
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And Michael Doherty from Trick or Treat Krampus, you know, dude
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who has done some staples in the horror genre, Yes, he wrote
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Bloody Mary. And yes, it was around the same
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time before or after Trick or Treat was written.
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It was in limbo, I think, whenever he was doing this
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movie. And yeah, this is the same man
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that brought us Trick or Treat people.
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OK, interesting. This is a team of people that
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are probably like, can we not remember this movie?
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I don't think anybody here wants to remember this movie exists or
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have it on the resume. Especially because of who the
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director is. Director Mary Lambert.
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She's also a prolific director. As I understand, special effects
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makeup was Mark Vilabos. Mark Villalobos.
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Villalobos yeah. OK, Music by Scooter Peach and
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Jeff Roan. That's how you have to say the
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same. It's good, Peach.
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I wasn't ready for that. I was drinking water.
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Yeah, OK. That's who we got.
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Yeah. All right.
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So starring Kate Mara as Samantha Owens.
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Yep. Kate Mara, Very, very big actor.
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What do you know her from? She is in House of Cards.
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She's in a lot of movies. She was in like 1 of the
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Fantastic Four movies too. She's most notably.
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She's like I don't know if it's nepo baby.
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Technically, since her family isn't an acting family, she.
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Related to Rooney, Mario yeah, sister, okay.
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Yeah, she's the older sister. This is their parents are like
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the owners of the Pittsburgh Steelers billionaire family.
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OK, yeah. So.
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So even if they weren't in in the movie industry, they still
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had a leg up. They were fine.
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Yeah. These people can.
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They're play the the world's their toy box here.
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She wanted to go into acting, that sort of thing.
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And she had the means to be able to support herself during the
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whole thing. So good for her.
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We're happy for her. Robert Vito as David Owens.
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Tina Lifford as Grace Taylor. Ed Marinero as Bill Owens.
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Nancy Everhart as Pam Owens Michael Cole Not Michael Cole.
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Michael Cole. As no.
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As Michael Cole as. Buck Jacoby Don Shanks.
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Yes, Don Shanks, the hero of all of the horror slasher sequels.
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Directed video If they have to be as coach Jacoby, Audra, Lee
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Keener as Heather Thompson and Lilith Fields as Young Mary
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Banner and Bloody Mary. All right, time for our favorite
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game on the show. Budget or bug Ted?
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I wanna say bug Ted, but I'm gonna say it's a higher bug Ted
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than this maybe looks like it had.
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It did kind of surprise me with the bug Ted it has, but it is
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Bug Ted. You're correct.
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It is $3.5 million to make this movie.
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OK, you know what? I was expecting you to say
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something like 7 million and I was going to say bitch where?
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Too much. Yeah.
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Yeah. Even the three million, I'm
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like, what? It just, it really feels like
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one of those that you're going to be pissed off at how much
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money it had and what it made and should not do with it.
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Yeah. So I don't have opening box
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office since it's direct to DVD, but worldwide gross.
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All I have written is apparently pretty well.
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We'll get into that here in a little bit, OK.
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But apparently it did OK. OK IMDb score is 4.1 out of 10
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not. Really.
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Yeah, this is almost the same score as Craps.
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Craps, yeah. Yeah, they're different leagues.
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They are different leagues, different movies.
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Yeah, it's not fair to compare the two, I don't think.
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OK, so I have three other movies I released in 2005 and I have a
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theme. A theme.
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Urban legends slash myths. OK, OK, OK #1 boogeyman.
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OK. Yeah, So Boogeyman, I figured
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with some of these, I'm like, especially ones I'm not super
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familiar with, I'm gonna read off a little synopsis of them
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just so we have an idea of what we're talking about here.
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So this is a young man tries to deal with a childhood terror
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that has never stopped haunting him.
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And I will say my ranking of the boogeyman goes opposite from
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their release order so I will go through to 1 is how I rank them.
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Two got Tobin Bell. I know, I know that the second
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one has Tobin Bell. The third one has gratuitous
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Tobin Bell photos. Yeah, Yeah, you're right.
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Yeah, I think we have one of these, I think.
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We have, we have the no, we have the third one because that's my
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favorite 1 and I'm always like, it scares me so.
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Yeah. OK.
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So Boogeyman released February 4th, 2005, $20 million budget.
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That one, and I don't know why. I don't know if it's because
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it's 2005 or because they have like a very like generic looking
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lead for 2005, but I always convince myself it's JPADS in
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that movie. Man, you know, I honestly don't
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remember anything about this movie.
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I was it really this big? Was it a big movie?
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Was that like a fucking event? Because it grossed $67,000,000.
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So apparently people saw this thing.
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Oh, people were talking. I don't remember.
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It people. Said it must have.
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People said yeah, OK, well, I, I was not hearing nor saying any
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of this shit back in 2005 because I, it just like went
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under the radar for me, I guess. IMDb 4.2 got a .1 leg up on our
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movie here this week, Urban Legends.
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All right, movie #2 Cry wolf. Yeah, that's like a little urban
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legend myth that they create in the movie there.
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We've talked about this on the show.
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That was my birthday maybe a couple years ago.
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So just like in our past January episodes.
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Yeah, 8 unsuspecting high school seniors at a posh boarding
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school who delight themselves on playing games of wise come face
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to face with terror and learn that nobody believes a liar even
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when they're telling the truth. So that's also got Mr. Bon Jovi
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in it. Yeah, I'm not going to tell you
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how he. Dies exactly how you think you
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will. You'll have to just watch the
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movie or listen to his discography to figure that one
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out. All right, so Cry Cry Wolf
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released November Fuck Me, release September 16th, 2005 one
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million. Any chance for you to like try
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and cut that snooze? Yeah, it can't happen.
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All right. Budget him $1 million Thirty
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$2,000,000 gross 5.8 IMDb. Fuck yeah, cry wolf.
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Pretty awesome. I love Cry wolf and I will
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recommend it to people. Anybody that'll whistling?
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That one does have J pads. Yeah, actually again it was 2005
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J Pads was there he. Was bopping.
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He's also in House of Wax a year.
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Yeah, yeah, dude. Dude was getting busy.
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I don't know what year he was in Gilmore Girl.
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Well he was in the Dilmar Girls through most of its runs, so
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probably also 2005. All right, in the final movie,
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The Call of Cthulhu. OK, Cthulhu is like a classic,
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well, myth. I didn't realize that that was a
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movie too. I always just thought it was the
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game. There is a game and then there's
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a movie. OK, yeah.
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And this is like a shorter movie.
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You said basically the same thing I did.
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Yeah, pretty much it this one, it showed up on the Wikipedia,
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but it's like a shortish movie. It's only 47 minutes, OK, But
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yeah, it's like a it's a tale of Kathu, somebody going out there
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and be like, that's a big monster.
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I think that's how the movie goes.
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I think that's the official synopsis that was written out
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for that one that released October 7th, 2550.
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Thousand for the budget, no gross but a 7.1 on IMDb.
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So it pretty much did good there with the people.
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People are talking. People were talking about that.
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They said. OK, so tag lines.
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I've got two. First tag line Mary's evil is
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beyond the legend. I don't.
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I don't like that because the whole point was it was revenge,
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not that she was just inherently evil.
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I'm going to say that the football players were the evil
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ones. Yeah, they were.
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Yeah, she was really. She was getting revenge on the
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people that didn't necessarily need revenge it.
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Was the IT was the Freddy Krueger, Yeah.
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Freddy Krueger School of Payback.
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And, you know, just because it was done before doesn't mean
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that's the way to go. Yeah.
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You know, you can always do something different.
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Change the path to going down Mary.
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All right, the second movie or not the movie, second tagline.
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Turn off the lights and see what happens.
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To me, that just sounds like a good time.
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Yeah, I was going to say that sounds like, I mean, that could
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go several different ways, Yeah. You know what?
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Yeah, that one right there could be any kind of movie.
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All right, so fun facts, this movie hard to find shit on out
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there. They did have a making of
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documentary on the DVD which I did watch, but it didn't really
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give a lot of information to go on.
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So I'm going to, I'd just give you what all I was able to find
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Mary Lambert, she saw the script, liked it, liked the fact
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that the villain was a girl and a ghost, so.
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She's very own brand for Mary Lambert.
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The thing that was really weird to me was she's like, yeah, I
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liked it. She's a ghost.
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And then she's like, you don't know that, though, until the end
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of the movie. I'm like Mary or did you watch
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or have any involvement in the movie that you made was?
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It were there some like major edits at the?
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End. Oh, no, but she was like, yeah,
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you're not yeah, you don't know that.
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It's all for revenge. She's a she's a ghost.
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You want you know, and it's not me taking words out of context.
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This is her like in like a little behind the scenes, like
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somebody had camera in her face and I'm like, all right, Mary,
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talk about the movie. She's like, well, OK, you know,
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she's like very much put on the spot.
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She also says that she liked it because not enough female
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villains exist up there, and she thinks that what are women?
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She said that she's experienced a lot of women not really liking
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playing villains because she thinks that they believe it
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messes with their sexiness or their currency as a sympathetic
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character. So she was really happy to be
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able to have somebody wanting to be a female villain for once.
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OK Doherty and Harris, they pitched it as a theatrical
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release and ended up not being one, which she was very
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disappointed because she was promised that there was a good
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chance that it would actually release in theaters.
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But they pretty much said, Nah, not to that one right there.
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It's kind of inspired by the J horror trend that was going on
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at that time. So the early 2000, the 1st
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movies were slasher inspired because we had like the screams
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and I know what you did last summers.
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And then this one played more off of The Grudge and The Ring.
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I thought that was really heavy at that time.
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You can see that in the way like Mary was styled especially.
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Yeah, yeah. And we had a little sit down
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with supervisor Mark Villalobos. Villalobos.
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Villalobos. Yeah, he was like doing the
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makeup on her and apparently it takes like 3 hours to put the
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makeup on and an hour to get the makeup off.
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Man, I thought a lot of that was CGI.
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Would hurt like on her visually. Yeah.
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No, that was all practical. OK, yeah, it wasn't the best, it
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wasn't terrible, but you know, this movie is like a blend.
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It's a weird blend of CGA and Practical.
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And I think that's the problem is when you use too much CGI,
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everything you see, you start to be like, Oh well, that must be
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CGI as well. They did CG some I guess.
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Like none of her appearance with CGI.
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Literally that's one of my bats that I have written right here.
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CGI married. Oh God.
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No, yeah, that's all her. That was a contact that they put
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in her and everything. OK, I mean, good on them, I
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guess. I think that just the whole
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movie kind of makes his work seem like maybe it wasn't as
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good then. That's unfortunate.
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Yeah, yeah, I think they definitely could have.
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Done. And I'm not to be clear, I'm not
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holding that against him. It's the rest of the movie is so
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heavy on CGI that I just assumed.
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Apparently, like this, I was reading a review and because I
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was out there just trying to find anything and this was like
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a little preview that was written up beforehand by Dread
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Central. And like apparently this movie,
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they just weren't really acknowledging its existence even
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before like right leading up to the release, there was no
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mention of it on Sony's website, who is the distributor, and
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there is no mention of it on Phoenix's website who is
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producing it. And there was no IMDb page
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created at its time either. So they basically were treating
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this movie like it just did not exist.
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They were treating this movie like it was Mary Banner.
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Yeah. And So what happened?
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Apparently it sold well. Like we said before, they had
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originally sold the rights to the franchise, but then Urban
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Legends 3 did so well in DVD cells that they bought the
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rights back so they could produce a fourth entry, which
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that was going to be titled Urban Legends Goldfield Murders.
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But that movie didn't actually come out as an Urban Legends
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movie. There is a movie like that out
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that came out in 2007 called Ghosts of Goldfield.
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So if you want to watch maybe a spiritual successor to Urban
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Legends, there we go. That's there and that is it for
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fun facts. OK, that's about all I could
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find. I was scraping the bottom of the
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barrel right there. OK.
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All right, so let's do some good, bad, ugly and absurd talk
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right here. OK, so kick it off.
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What did you like about this movie?
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I like that it was just a good old fashioned revenge plot with
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Urban Legends, which is the heart of the Urban Legends
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franchise. And I think that, like, it's not
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as unhinged as a lot of revenge plots, You know what I mean?
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Like, she was killed and she's killing.
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Like, OK. Like, Angry Ghost.
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I get it. It's straightforward.
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Yeah. I'm.
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I'm on it. I I wish they had more urban
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legends, but I like the ones that they used.
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And the only scene I really remembered having seen from this
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movie before we rewatched it on Friday.
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Thursday was the one where he's in the hotel room with his dog,
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licking his hand. You did or didn't.
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Remember, I did remember it, and that's the only one I
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remembered. Yeah, because that that's an
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urban legend that's always freaked me the hell out anyway.
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And also that scene obviously is upsetting.
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Yeah, that's a that's a bad scene.
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I mean it's it's fine for the movie, but I don't really like
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watching it. Yeah, but like we've got that,
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we've got the spider egg on the face, we've got peeing on the
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electric fence. Like we've got some really good
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urban legends thrown in there. So I think that that's all like
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it's a fun enough story playline on its face.
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That's the good that I had to. Despite this movie being based
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off of 1 particular urban legend, I like that they still
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rolled with like a bunch of them happening throughout.
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So she's basically getting revenge on them through other
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urban legends, which, yeah, you know, I think it would have been
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cool if they like played into like some stories since why
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they're doing urban legend deaths by another urban legend,
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but we don't really go that far into it.
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But the fact that we got him, I'm happy about him, OK?
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That's about good. The good I could say for this
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movie right there, OK. Yeah, dude, my bad.
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Is the CGI like and the CGI we get is so bad that apparently
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I'm just attributing everything visually to CGI like.
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Especially egregious is the spiders.
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And The thing is, they have real spiders there too.
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They're on the behind the scenes thing.
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They had a guy in the tech showed up.
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Spider Wrinkler. Unless that's just his nickname
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that he calls himself. I mean, it's kind of like,
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what's his face is the dinosaur supervisor on Jurassic Park,
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Phil Tippett? Nope.
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That's the different dude. Well, OK, he did do.
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Yeah, you're right. No, that isn't.
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Yeah. Yeah, I think it's somebody
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else. There's so many special effects
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people in that. Yeah.
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Phil Tippett is the guy That is the ring.
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Where? Yeah, no, I was thinking
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specifically of the like, there were velociraptors in the
21:10
kitchen, Phil. Yeah, so many people died, Phil.
21:14
Yeah, you're right. Yeah, I don't know.
21:17
They did have real spiders there, but they did have a lot
21:20
of CG spiders too. Imagine imagine filming with
21:24
real spiders and having to go through that, and then you see
21:27
the final product and you've got spiders that are just like using
21:30
video game logic on your body. Dude, and The thing is, I saw
21:35
that scene without special effects added in the behind the
21:39
scenes thing and it looked kind of nice.
21:42
They had the practical her ripping the face off.
21:44
That was practical. Man, I like it.
21:46
Just ruins it. It really did.
21:48
Yeah, absolutely ruins it. It's so a Top Model did some of
21:53
this bullshit too around this time where they would put the
21:56
models in dangerous situations and then they would just like
22:00
edit the fuck out of the photos and post.
22:03
So on cycle 6, they had the girls posing with a live bull in
22:10
an arena and then they used Photoshop at the end to make the
22:14
bull closer to them. So it's like you didn't have to
22:17
have the bull in the at all. Yeah, yeah.
22:20
And same in a cycle 16 shoot where they were posing with bees
22:23
and they even had like pheromones on the bees to like
22:26
or on the jewelry to make the bees pose on the jewelry.
22:29
But then they added like, so many more bees in posts, and
22:31
it's like, you could have just added all of the bees, yeah.
22:35
That's just stupid stuff right there.
22:37
Yeah. Then I don't know, maybe they
22:39
had the same person that did the effects for this.
22:41
And I wonder if it's just like a thought of like, we need more on
22:44
here, but because we have some real stuff, like we don't have
22:47
to make it look good. But really all that happens.
22:49
It's like it doesn't elevate the good it, it muddies it up.
22:53
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that was one of the things
22:56
I had to because it was just not exactly a great blend of that
22:59
stuff. Cuz that could have been like an
23:01
Alzheimer scene, you know what I mean?
23:03
I. Mean it's still pretty
23:04
effective. It could have been, yeah.
23:06
It could have been great if they let it.
23:08
I don't know if they did it right.
23:10
They did not. OK, well, and my bats are the
23:15
pacing and editing were a little bit all over the place.
23:18
I don't know, this movie was just weird with how it handled
23:23
that. It was very much that and then
23:25
and then this, then this, then this and.
23:27
Said yeah, so. This happens because of this.
23:30
So because of that, then this, it was just like, here's a
23:33
moment, here's a moment, here's a moment.
23:35
It just like there was nothing really sewing or weaving the
23:38
whole story together in a cohesive.
23:39
Way. Yeah, like.
23:40
And we get it like. So what's her face, Mara?
23:45
No, not Mara. Mara's sister Kate.
23:48
Her character is outspoken. Yes.
23:51
Samantha, thank you. She gets alienated at school
23:55
because of it, and her friends become alienated.
23:57
But then why do her friends all of a sudden decide that they
23:59
hate her? Yeah, I thought that that was
24:01
strange too. Like they're basically not even
24:03
involved after that point. Yeah, which you would think with
24:06
how they are. Also like in on the prank, they
24:10
got pranked with her. So like why are they not
24:12
involved in this? Yeah, you'd think they would at
24:14
least show us something where where the girls are also being
24:16
accused of being involved in these killings.
24:19
Or like, you'd think they would show us some reason why her
24:22
supposed best friend suddenly hate her.
24:25
Yeah, it it's just so strange. I don't know, they they didn't
24:30
really handle the character super well enough.
24:32
And then they like, bring like Grace, but she's OK, but like, I
24:36
don't know, like just the way that they handle everything.
24:38
It was just so weird. Yeah.
24:40
And like the other thing, David, he dies.
24:44
I thought that he was going to come back, but like, they don't
24:48
even address it after he goes away.
24:50
He's. Just dead, he.
24:51
Just like his dad stepdad kills him and then that's it and she
24:56
doesn't even mention them anymore.
24:58
She's. Like, well, you know, it's.
24:59
She's like, hey, it's OK, I'm a new urban legend.
25:02
It's OK, I'm OK. Ugly stuff.
25:06
So obviously the Why is your head tilted like that?
25:09
I'm trying. To read my.
25:10
Oh, OK, so obviously the roofies are, you know, a problem.
25:15
I'm just, you know, regardless of the movie took the approach
25:19
that they're using the roofies so that way they can just drop
25:22
these girls off in abandoned places.
25:24
And I say it all the time that like, you don't have to just
25:28
throw a salt in as like an extra like sprinkle on a horror movie
25:35
because just because it is a terrible thing that can happen
25:39
to people doesn't mean that you have to put it in every horror
25:41
movie where terrible things are happening to people, I think.
25:43
There's a way, there's a time or place you can do it, but you got
25:46
to handle it super delicately. Yeah, but when you like, throw
25:50
in the roofies and you see them putting the girls in the car,
25:52
that's obviously where your mind's gonna go.
25:54
Yeah. And that's gonna lead me to the
25:55
next point, which is when the sheriff is saying that like,
25:58
they can tell from testing that nothing happened to the girls.
26:02
And I just like, from the bottom of my heart with my whole test.
26:06
I'm begging people to understand that a rape kit cannot
26:11
definitively tell you if a rape happened or not.
26:14
Yeah, at most it can tell you if sex, sexual intercourse of some
26:18
sort happened, but it can't, like, tell you whether it was
26:20
consensual or not because the human body is meant to be like,
26:25
physically receptive to those things.
26:28
So it's not like a person gets raped and like the rape kit is
26:31
going to be like, yeah, no, she was for sure raped.
26:32
Like you're collecting evidence that can be used in the, like,
26:37
prosecution and investigation of the case.
26:40
And I need people to understand that because, like saying, oh,
26:43
well, the rape kit didn't show there was evidence of rape.
26:45
Like that's not, that's not how that it works.
26:47
Please stop listening to movies and TV when they tell you that's
26:51
how that works. That's not how that works.
26:53
Yeah, I think this movie got another thing wrong, which is
26:55
like when they initially go missing, they're like, well,
26:57
it's not been 24 hours, so we can't really do anything.
27:00
It's also a fucking myth. Yeah, it's.
27:02
Not true. Like you, if somebody's missing,
27:03
report that shit. Those first 24 hours are
27:06
actually the most important. Yeah, yeah, it's just this
27:09
movie. That was my bad thing too, was
27:12
the handling of the initial disappearance of the girls,
27:15
because it was just like they didn't really seem interested.
27:19
They were more interested in closing the case than actually
27:23
like getting to the bottom of things.
27:25
And I have one more ugly bucks chin strap beard.
27:30
Painfully, 2005. It it hurts to look at, yeah.
27:35
Yeah, that's not a good look, dude.
27:38
OK, yeah, OK. Absurd stuff.
27:41
OK, so in the beginning I think her name is Dawn and or is it
27:45
Grace? Who?
27:47
Which one? Don no Don, the mean girl at the
27:49
prom. Yeah, that's Don.
27:51
OK, in the beginning, because it looks like her date has dumped
27:56
her for Mary or whatever. Yeah, but actually she's in on
28:00
the whole, like the prank. Yeah, if you want to call it a
28:02
prank. Felt like that's too little
28:04
word. I think that they she to them
28:06
they. Yeah, but when Mary comes out
28:08
and realizes what's happening, Don is there and she goes as if
28:12
he'd want to touch. Yeah, and she sounded like
28:15
Parker Posey. Oh my gosh, She kind of did.
28:17
Yeah. That was really jarring whenever
28:20
that happened because I thought it was really the dudes just
28:22
like trying to dip off and I didn't think she was going to be
28:24
involved. But then like, she's just like
28:27
commenting on the whole situation.
28:28
There, Yeah. It was really strange.
28:30
The whole scene was really weird.
28:32
And then also, so we see in the beginning Mary gets hit and
28:37
she's got a mark on the side of her head and it appears to be on
28:41
the right side of her head. But sometimes the ghost has it
28:43
on the left side and sometimes it's on the right, like it just
28:45
switches back and forth. Man, no consistency.
28:47
No consistency. Come on, Veloobos.
28:49
Yeah, dude. And again, that's I thought it
28:53
was CGI so. Yeah, I, you know, no defending
28:56
it. It doesn't.
28:57
It doesn't hold up. You're right.
29:00
So my absurds 1969 also an awful lot like 2005, everybody had the
29:06
fucking 2005 slicked back gel hairdos, not even slicked back,
29:10
just like spiked up even. And like the part, that's not
29:13
what people looked like in the 1960s.
29:15
It's 1969 in Salt Lake City. Yeah.
29:18
Man also. Yeah, it's just I, I saw that
29:22
like you made no attempt to make this true to that era.
29:26
This wasn't like 9 of the creeps where it opens up in the 60s
29:29
there I believe, where it was like very very authentic I.
29:31
Think it was the 50s it was like.
29:33
Yeah, even better, even more classic.
29:37
And then the other one is we have that scene with Heather.
29:40
She it's the scene with the spider kill.
29:43
She wakes up in her underwear and she gets out of bed and
29:45
she's walking to the bathroom and you can see her mic pack and
29:48
her underwear. It's like they tried their best
29:51
to hide it. The fact that you put it in the
29:53
underwear though one of like the it's a form fitting piece of
29:57
clothing. Tape it to her belly.
30:00
Yeah, we. T her front for a reason,
30:02
because you're not trying to give us the titty shot, but.
30:04
Yeah. Put it right there, man, it's
30:06
going to be even better right there, but you put it right on
30:09
her ass. Also she wasn't even talking,
30:13
did she need a mic pack? No, she didn't.
30:16
Maybe she was talking like, yes, we can't.
30:18
We can't use. This imagine all of this, she
30:22
does all of this for this scene and that's how her character
30:25
dies. She doesn't get any words like.
30:29
No, man, it was a good death, but like God, they just there's
30:34
a lot of this movie that just. Kind of.
30:35
They whipped it. They whipped it hard on the
30:38
spider scene. They did.
30:39
They did. OK, that's it for all of that.
30:41
So let's get into our rating. What do you rated?
30:45
I want to love this movie so much more than I actually do,
30:49
but it just it. It sounded like they had heart
30:55
behind the scenes, but none of that comes through and I don't
30:58
know. It's so weird.
31:00
I mean, we got a team of like writer and director that's like
31:03
accomplished. So what?
31:05
Happened. I don't know what happened.
31:07
I don't know if it's studio intervention, I don't know.
31:10
It sounds like the team honestly thought they were making a
31:13
different movie that went ended up being made.
31:15
So I'm not gonna hold it against them based on the information we
31:21
have. But like I'd have to give this
31:22
maybe a 4.50? That's one I was gonna give it
31:25
too. Really.
31:26
Yeah, this movie like, yeah, it has potential to be fun bad.
31:33
It's it's still OK. I can throw this on and I could
31:37
like enjoy it, like just to kind of like RIP on it, just like
31:40
enjoy the cheesiness of it. But like, if I'm going to sit
31:43
down and pay close attention all the way through, it's it's kind
31:46
of a rough one. It's yeah.
31:48
It's not like the second one is very which we will talk about
31:52
obviously at some point like. I had that plan on Pluto
31:55
yesterday. Yeah, it it has very, very silly
31:58
moments in it, but it still delivers on it.
32:01
You know what I mean? This one, it just is not like it
32:05
doesn't have the same qualities. So it just, and obviously the
32:09
first one is like it's a league of its own.
32:12
Yeah. So yeah, 4.5 starting average.
32:18
We're not much higher than the IMDb, which is rare for us.
32:22
Yeah, you know, it's OK though. Like this one's just not like a
32:25
big one for us. But you know what we're going to
32:27
talk about and see if we come out the other end feeling any
32:30
differently. All right, all right, so we
32:33
start off with Salt Lake City 1969.
32:36
We got some teens meeting up in the hall somewhere they can go
32:38
to the prom together. Prom queen Dawn, she's pissed
32:43
because she was just dumped. But Mary's date, the Don's
32:47
ex-boyfriend, says it's fine, she'll get over it.
32:49
Yeah. And then they're over there at
32:51
the Punch Bowl and they're starting to spack the drinks,
32:54
putting a little drugs in there, trying to get the girls a little
32:57
bit more intoxicated. And they're all slim and the
33:00
drinks back, they're having multiples.
33:02
Except for Mary, who's just actually enjoying herself.
33:05
Like, she's dancing, she's feeling good, she's happy.
33:09
And then the guys take the the drugged girls outside, and
33:15
Mary's date asks if she wants to go somewhere.
33:18
And she's like, yeah. And she thinks that this is a
33:21
nice evening. And she gets out there and she
33:23
sees the other dates are putting unconscious girls, her friends
33:27
into the car realize it's a problem and goes running and.
33:31
These guys, they, they're the original and they, like I quote,
33:35
say it's just a prank. It's just a prank, bro.
33:37
Oh my. God, what kind of prank?
33:40
What? What prank involves drugging
33:42
somebody? Yeah, if your pranks, if your
33:44
prank involves you saying, Oh no, Willie, she's still, she's
33:48
still sober. She can tell on us.
33:51
That's not a prank. That's not.
33:52
No, that's that's assault and a legal act It's assault.
33:55
Yeah, that is bad, Yeah. No, don't.
34:00
I hope Talia didn't hear you. Out there, Talia, you're you're
34:03
beautiful and you do no wrong. There we go.
34:07
We're we're resolving them. So yeah, he chases her and she
34:10
is hidden in the storage room and she thinks she's going to be
34:13
able to get away, but he finds her there and.
34:17
He like punches her and she falls and hits her head on the
34:20
corner of an object which gives her the gash that moves all over
34:24
her forehead. Man, I watch these things
34:27
sometimes and I know all it takes is to fall at the wrong
34:31
angle, but I'd be hitting my head a lot and I've never busted
34:36
it open like that. You're out.
34:37
It's just wild. I am Elton John.
34:42
Yeah, so she's dead. And he just takes her and puts
34:45
her body in this chest that's over there.
34:48
And you know what this is, man? This is kind of like Mary Lou,
34:51
like locked up in the chest and all.
34:53
Yeah, God. And her name is Mary.
34:56
Yeah. So he he puts her in there.
34:58
You're on to something. I'm on to something.
35:01
And the other guy's like, yo, where'd she go?
35:03
He's like, I don't know. And I will say we do have a
35:06
really cool transition where it cuts out to, like, a sleepover.
35:10
And one of the girls is telling this as an urban legend.
35:13
And she's like, yeah, She was like, even though it was more
35:15
than 30 years ago, they still haven't found her body.
35:20
And outside, Sam's mom was like, it's like, kind of weird that
35:24
they're not going to their own homecoming.
35:27
No. And her husband's like, no, not
35:29
everybody wants to be prom queen.
35:30
Like I'm real bummed that this guy ends up being the killer
35:35
because. Yeah, he's their stepdad.
35:38
Right. Yeah, which?
35:39
Makes me wonder, so did they force them to take his last name
35:43
or did he take their last name Because his last name is Owens.
35:46
Because he's got the badge on. Like vote for Owens but they're
35:48
all Owens. On IMDb they're all listed as
35:51
Owens and they they refuse to call him dad, so that's not a
35:56
choice that they made because they don't like the guy.
35:59
I could see it being a thing where like the mom made it
36:01
happen. I don't know how old they were
36:03
when the kids, how old the kids were when they got together it.
36:06
Feels a reason. Yeah, so I don't, I don't know.
36:10
I mean if you go on Reddit all the time you see like stories of
36:13
kids being asked to take their step parents last name and.
36:18
It's weird, Yeah, it's weird. I I, you know, but maybe that's
36:21
like putting the layers into why they hate this guy.
36:24
It doesn't seem like Sam hates him.
36:27
Oh no, I guess no, we don't really get a lot of like them.
36:30
Talking about David hates him, but like, I don't know, it seems
36:34
like, you know, he's out here defending the girls and I guess
36:38
he's doing. Yeah.
36:39
Like, I, I don't know. I for the most part, I generally
36:43
like their little blended family dynamic.
36:45
Granted, I'm always going to be like a proponent of that coming
36:50
from a very successful blended family myself, but yeah.
36:54
Well, so they're still telling the urban legends and then
36:58
David. Comes they kind of speed run
36:59
through some urban legends and one of them especially is they
37:02
like getting the hand stuck in the vending machine and it
37:05
falling and crushing them. Also like how there's one of
37:07
them that's like calling you. She's like Bloody Mary that's
37:10
just a RIP off of Candy Man. And then like David comes in and
37:13
sets the record straight. By the way, Candy Man ripped off
37:16
Buddy Mary. Which I also think is really
37:19
funny because even in Canon of this movie, Mary, the Bloody
37:25
Mary of this movie, would have died before Handyman ever came
37:28
out. So yeah.
37:29
Right. Yeah, exactly.
37:30
Yeah, so of course they do the Bloody Mary and of course
37:32
nothing happened, so. Well, actually, as soon as she
37:35
finishes that, we do see Bloody Mary appear outside their house.
37:39
Yeah, but they don't know that. Yeah, instead they have a moment
37:43
and then they giggle and have a pillow fight because 13 girls in
37:46
a 2005 movie and then they go to bed.
37:50
Roughhouse. But in the middle of the night,
37:54
we hear some spooky sounds. Spooky sounds.
37:56
Something at the door. Right outside, because there's a
37:58
door right next to them. There's something in like the
38:00
living room. And I mentioned this briefly
38:02
during the Good Butt Ugly and absurd, but the reason these
38:06
girls are home instead of at homecoming is essentially
38:09
because the football team blacklisted them because Sam
38:12
wrote an article about the football players being given
38:15
class credit for going to football practice.
38:18
That's pretty fucking dumb. Yeah, and she posts like, it
38:21
seems like the type of thing that you would post in a like an
38:24
op-ed in a school newspaper. But she also put an embarrassing
38:27
picture of them. Yeah, in it too, so.
38:30
I'm happy for it, though. That's a good one.
38:32
Good call out. All right, It's the next
38:33
morning. David asked for $100.
38:36
Yeah, him and his mom are joking around.
38:37
They seem to have a decent relationship between the two of
38:40
them. And then she's tells them to go
38:42
wake up the girls. They're all gone and the den
38:45
door to the outside is open. So they call the cops and the
38:49
cops really not actually missing for 24 hours.
38:51
And they're like, no, actually they are missing because they
38:54
don't do this. This is not the type of of girls
38:56
they are. And like, yeah, there's just
38:59
like a little like montage of them or like a time lapse of
39:02
them waiting it out. And they're like, all right, 24
39:04
hours later the cops show up and when we get one of the cops, I
39:07
think he's the sheriff, but he has the vote for Bill Owens
39:10
badge on. You're like, there might be
39:11
something weird about this whole Bill Owens type guy.
39:14
Yeah, so at school on Monday, David is being avoided and kind
39:19
of stared at and not in like, the usual, like, oh, something
39:23
bad happened to this person. You're worried.
39:25
It's like, almost contagious kind of way.
39:27
But this person that's a social pariah has gone missing, and
39:31
it's big news. But now it makes his brother,
39:34
makes the brother seem even a little bit more awfulness.
39:38
Yeah, and he's also kind of suspicious of of Buck, who is
39:43
passing notes in class and they're all like sneaking looks
39:47
at David too. So he thinks that there's
39:49
something involved with him, especially since of the whole
39:51
newspaper thing. Yeah, and the notes, like we
39:54
don't linger on it too much, but like one of the notes says, they
39:57
should be back by now. Yeah, yeah.
39:59
So we know immediately that they are in fact involved.
40:03
That night Stan walks in looks a little worse for wear but
40:06
generally unharmed. She said she just woke up in the
40:09
basement of the old mill, doesn't remember anything, but
40:13
the testing at the hospital did reveal roofies in her blood.
40:16
I feel like it's weird that she went to the hospital and had all
40:19
this testing done and her parents were never notified.
40:22
Right. I think was it the cops who this
40:25
town is just like it's incompetent.
40:27
Yeah, so she they say that she was not abused in that way.
40:33
You don't fucking know from attempts like that, but yeah,
40:36
OK. So she's starting to have
40:38
visions of Mary, though something's happening there.
40:41
So we now go to the next stage. The school gossip is that all of
40:46
this was a stunt by those three. And then Heather, I don't know
40:51
if she's like friends with the football players or if she's
40:53
Buck's girlfriend. It's kind of ambiguous.
40:55
Girlfriend I I get that implication, but it's never like
40:58
outright shown. She stands up for the girls as
41:03
they're being gossiped about, and then after class, she tells
41:06
Buck that they're back and they were in class.
41:10
So David and Sam are twins, and they're talking, you know, And
41:16
she does. She does eventually say, you
41:19
know, it was Buck, Tom. And who's the third one?
41:24
Roger. Yeah, she kind of hints that
41:26
she, like, circled them. She's like, they did it on that
41:28
newspaper. So David goes and approaches
41:32
Buck in the locker room shower and they just make short work of
41:38
him. They just like push him out of
41:39
there and like the whole team turns on him too.
41:41
Apparently this guy he like had to do this take like 10 times
41:44
and by the end of it, he was filling it because they were
41:46
like really just shoving them all the way out of the the
41:50
locker room the entire. Time I could see that I would
41:52
get sore yeah, he's like. If I take 10, I was dead.
41:56
So yeah, I mean, valiant effort, man.
42:00
You know, good for you for standing up for your sister, but
42:01
that was Louis in battle right there.
42:03
Also, how did you expect that to go?
42:05
You went into their territory. You have to at best approach
42:08
them on neutral grounds. Which is what he does here.
42:11
So he's out in the parking lot stake in the mount, and then he
42:14
sees Roger Leaf, because Roger's going to go to the tanning band.
42:17
Yeah, this guy does. He's talking about his tan line,
42:19
and the ladies love having it. Just be pale down there y'all?
42:23
This feels very much like almost a direct and I don't know what
42:28
years they were so maybe. Final destination.
42:30
Yeah, cuz like, Oh my. God, this, she says in that too,
42:33
doesn't. She yeah, she says 7 gets off on
42:35
tan lines. Oh my God I'm looking this up
42:37
right now. When did final destination 3
42:39
come out? I think it came out in like
42:40
2003. Destination 3, 2006.
42:47
It did it first. It did it, but Final Destination
42:50
3 did it better. Final Destination.
42:53
It punched it up, but it had the benefit of being the second one
42:56
to do. It they're like, OK, what were
42:58
what did I wear? Let it be known today that Urban
43:01
Legends Three had a leg up on Final Destination Three people.
43:05
OK, it happened, all right? Anyways, so he's there.
43:08
He's flirting with. Betsy.
43:10
Betsy, she's there, she's got like her top is basically non
43:13
existent. Listen, she's now she's covered
43:17
the bits that need to be covered.
43:18
Yeah, yeah. She's leaving a lot of stuff
43:21
there for you to just kind of make your own interpretation.
43:24
Yeah. And he's over there.
43:25
He's getting set up. She's more covered than a DCC.
43:28
That's a DCC. To ask every cheerleader.
43:30
Yeah, OK. And she is.
43:34
So he goes, he gets in the tan bed, she sets him up and he is
43:38
trying to tell her how long he wants to be in there for, but
43:40
she's distracted because she's on the cell phone again.
43:42
Final Destination 3. This whole scene is basically
43:45
straight up from Final Destination.
43:47
But they do it better. But like you said, they they
43:50
could watch this, take notes. Yeah, did.
43:52
It first. So yeah, she gets on the call
43:57
and like he's like, I will come tell you when I'm done.
43:59
Like just leave it on the lowest setting and I'll come get you
44:02
when I'm done. And she's out on the phone and
44:04
she, she doesn't realize, like she doesn't realize that time is
44:06
passing. And she also doesn't realize
44:08
that outside of the room, the temperature is going up and up
44:11
and up on the bed. And he doesn't hear her hear him
44:14
shouting for her. And when she's on the phone, she
44:16
goes, I need to go check on Roger.
44:18
What time is it? And we don't hear what time it
44:21
is, but we get the idea that it's been a really long time
44:24
because she freaks out. So she goes running in there and
44:28
she busts in and like it's just smoke everywhere.
44:30
You would think that she would smell it because burning flesh
44:33
apparently smells terrible. Yeah.
44:35
But he's burnt to a crisp. He looks like jerky.
44:38
Yeah. So we cut to the funeral and we
44:42
see Coach Kobe. Don Shanks.
44:45
Don Shanks leaving flowers on Merry Banner's grave.
44:48
Yeah. Yeah, Sam tracked him because he
44:51
was just kind of walking around all suspicious slack out there.
44:54
So Heather brings her, brings Sam's history homework to her
44:59
and says, you know, like, hey, we're just doing payback.
45:04
Like it was just prank bro. Remember, we used to be best
45:08
friends. What happened to us?
45:09
Best of friends, Old friendship. Best friends.
45:11
Anyway, here's your homework. You want to really pay attention
45:13
to chapter 2? Yeah, she.
45:16
Opens it up and there's an envelope.
45:17
Yeah, she's basically saying, like, this has all happened
45:20
before, and the envelope has, like, old newspaper clippings in
45:22
it. So that night she's in her room
45:26
and she's asleep on her bed and she's got creepy Victorian
45:29
dolls. She isn't Heather.
45:32
Yeah, she isn't Heather. Yeah, and we see a spider crawl
45:35
out of the doll's mouth, which is an urban legend.
45:38
I'd never heard of that one. Until you told me that.
45:40
Yeah. And then it leads into an it.
45:43
That's the setup for like part of the urban legend people have
45:45
hear. People hear different versions
45:46
of it, but this is a setup I heard.
45:48
Is that like it crawls out of a doll like an antique and it lays
45:52
an egg on on the person's face and they wake up in the morning,
45:56
see what they think is a zit and in fact, it is millions of
46:00
spiders, Yeah. Which is exactly what happens.
46:03
She wants them. She.
46:03
Is not freaked out enough about how bad the zit looks on her
46:07
face in the morning. If I woke up with something like
46:09
that, I'd be like, that's not that.
46:12
It did not look like a zit. Yeah, you're right.
46:14
Yeah, it was. It was huge, like something.
46:15
That it looks like a necrotic wound.
46:18
Yeah, it's not good. She pops.
46:21
A bunch of spiders start crawling out.
46:23
And also like if you go to pop something that that that's that
46:26
big and it's not hurting more than that.
46:29
Also not a zit because a zit that big would hurt if you were
46:32
like. Maybe the spiders numbed it,
46:35
but. That's what I'm saying.
46:37
She should have known. Yeah, she should have, but she
46:40
didn't. She dumb.
46:41
Sam's outside, she's waiting. David's dropped her off to like,
46:45
you know, pick her up or whatever.
46:47
Yeah, she denies a ride to school, so I guess she was going
46:50
to take her bike, but yeah. Something like that, but she
46:52
goes and she's like wanting to talk to Heather in the morning
46:54
and banging on the door. Can't get anybody to answer.
46:56
Because she hears screaming. Yeah, and Heather is just in
46:59
there on the ground, ripping her face open, all kinds of spiders
47:02
just crawling everywhere. I would probably react the same
47:05
way. Yeah, me too.
47:06
Honestly. Yeah, fuck that man.
47:07
That's a nightmare. Yeah, and she can't get in until
47:12
it's too late, basically. So the school now has security
47:17
guards out front. Sam's friends aren't sitting
47:20
with her. Buck and Tom figure that all of
47:25
the problems are due to David and Sam.
47:29
Yeah, yeah. He he thinks that they're behind
47:32
it, so they're going to get their revenge.
47:36
And that revenge starts by Tom drunk driving.
47:40
And as he is driving, he sees Bloody Mary in the middle of the
47:42
road and swerves, and that makes him go off the road.
47:46
So he decides this is a good time to take a pee break.
47:49
And he pees on like, I was like, it's going to be an electric
47:52
fence. And you're like, yeah, I think
47:54
so. And then it cuts to the sign
47:55
that says electric. Yep.
47:57
So he's in there middle of a good stream and then Mary shows
48:01
up and she just flips the switch and it shocks him.
48:05
It was flying pee, pee burnt up. And then we cut to the next day.
48:09
And I like this quote like one of the, I guess it's probably
48:11
the coroner's like holy shit, this guy's Dick smoking.
48:15
Like that's inappropriate. Dude that is a high schooler and
48:18
his Dick is smoking. So don't say that part.
48:21
Be respectful. They also one of the cops points
48:23
out that his fingers been cut off and they're like, watch your
48:26
drinks tonight. That's like that old urban
48:27
legend of the finger in the bottom of the soda bottle.
48:31
There's so many, they just like they sneak them in there.
48:33
They just keep putting these urban.
48:35
Legends. Yeah, this may be.
48:37
Honestly, there are certain ways, Like when you're waiting
48:40
for a death to happen, it's got a sense of final destination to
48:44
it because it like plays around with it some you don't exactly
48:47
know how a character's gonna die.
48:49
You're right, yeah, it like does use like multiple urban legends
48:53
to try and do that. That's you know, that is an
48:54
interesting little. Aspect, yeah, I do like that it
48:57
plays around with it. I just wish it had done it
48:59
better, yeah. OK, so Sam is now showing David
49:03
that evidence exists of the same thing happening to other people
49:08
that happened to her and her friends.
49:10
So they go to the library. Unfortunately, no microfiche.
49:14
We're going straight up Internet here.
49:16
Yeah, which you don't need to go to the library or the school for
49:18
that, but whatever. But they go there and they're
49:21
just reviewing old articles and they find one that mentions 3
49:25
women that were abused the first time.
49:28
Gina, Mary and Grace. Gina shot herself in 1982.
49:33
Mary, I thought we would come back to that and find out she
49:35
hadn't. Yeah, I thought that maybe we
49:37
would have like, gotten something from that, but really
49:40
we're just trying to figure out that there's one survivor Mary
49:42
never found, but Grace still alive.
49:44
Yes. And they happen to have her
49:46
address right there too, surprisingly.
49:49
Yellow Pages, ma'am. Or well I guess it was white
49:51
pages for individuals so if you weren't and unlusted you could
49:54
look that up easily. But while that's happening, Don
49:57
Shanks overhears. And then he goes over there and
50:00
he wiggles the mouse to get the black screen off there and sees
50:03
what they were looking up the entire time.
50:06
I as an adult I have evolved from mouse wiggling to waking up
50:10
a computer to hitting a space bar.
50:12
I do that too, yeah. Like it's, it's weird, right?
50:15
You have to now type in the pin code.
50:16
Yeah, I think before it stayed like that until you just like
50:20
wiggle it. Yeah.
50:22
Yep. So they are now going over to
50:25
Grace's home and she welcomes them in after a little bit of
50:30
reluctance. She is incredibly paranoid
50:34
because she spends 23 hours a day stumped out of her cord.
50:37
She yeah, she's like high the entire time.
50:39
Which like probably self medication but also they call
50:44
they refer to her as the hippie in 1969.
50:47
So I think she was doing it recreationally beforehand and
50:50
just kind of upped it with the trauma.
50:52
I mean her van is that 70s Volkswagen like.
50:56
Microbus. Yeah, yeah, it's a it's a cool
50:59
piece right there. So like, Sam is talking to her
51:04
while David is wandering around and he happens to stumble upon
51:07
this little art book that she has called Urban Legends.
51:10
And I think this is cool because it's illustrations of deaths
51:13
from the past movies and it even has the puffy coat killer.
51:16
Yeah, she's. And she's a talented artist.
51:19
Yeah, it's pretty cool. Yeah.
51:20
So he's like looking through all that and he's getting freaked
51:22
out. And Grace is like, oh, yeah, no,
51:25
the murders are definitely Mary. Her life force was always
51:28
strong. And Sam's like, what are you
51:30
talking about? And she goes, no, it's just,
51:32
it's the laws of the universe. Like energy doesn't disappear.
51:37
It just changes forms. And this is kind of how I like,
51:42
you know, I've talked before on the show that I believe in like
51:44
ghosts and the paranormal and stuff like that.
51:46
And it's that same concept, like energy just transfers.
51:50
Yeah. So I get where she's coming
51:53
from. And I also get why David's
51:54
doesn't believe this. Yeah, I get it too.
51:57
You know, I mean, she's also stoned and she's also telling
52:00
them urban legends. So, you know, like take it for a
52:03
grain of salt here. And she's saying that she's
52:05
killing the children of those who stole her youth.
52:07
So it's meant to be like poetic justice or whatever, I guess.
52:10
No, they won't escape the sins of their fathers.
52:13
Is what she says. So Heather's mom was Dawn, the
52:18
prom queen. So that's why she got killed.
52:21
She says that she can't remember the names of their dates but
52:25
knows that they were on the football team.
52:26
Now, one of the things that they've seen in the newspaper
52:28
articles was that the girls refused to ever say who did it
52:32
to them. Yeah.
52:33
Which is what happened with Sam and her friends, too.
52:37
So. And Grace is holding.
52:38
She's holding true to that, just like by process of elimination,
52:42
they're like, we're just going to assume Buck is next, so let's
52:45
go look for him so we can try and save him.
52:47
They find him and he's like, listen, my dad didn't do
52:50
anything. You know, I just, I, I asked him
52:53
how to handle the situation and he told me what he would have
52:55
done, but he never actually did anything to those girls.
52:58
He was young. Yeah, this like it's so fucking
53:03
weird, man. And like, he what's he doing?
53:04
He's like in the parking lot. He's just like sitting in the
53:06
parking lot with his dog. And he's also going to stay at a
53:10
hotel. What is happening with him and
53:12
his family here? Did he get kicked out?
53:13
I don't know. There's like a story happening
53:16
here that we are not like Privy. To yeah, What is this?
53:19
What is this movie? It's from Buck's POV.
53:22
What did Don Shanks do to Buck? He was Don Shanks.
53:28
Yeah, good enough said. So David and Sam are talking
53:32
about all of this at their house and Bill hears them talking and
53:37
just kind of asks a little bit and they're they don't give full
53:40
details. Well, Sam doesn't give full
53:41
details and David's like no, she thinks that it's Merry Banner's
53:44
ghost. Yeah, Come on, Dave.
53:47
Come on. We come back to Buck.
53:49
He's at the hotel room. He's getting drunk with a bottle
53:53
of bourbon that has a finger at the bottom.
53:54
Yeah, and he's doing the thing with his dog.
53:57
He's like, just like letting his dog look at the hands, you know
53:59
where this is going. Yeah, let the lay your dog on
54:02
the bed. Yeah, come on, man.
54:03
It's. Not even your bed.
54:05
The thing that I was reading about this, so he's watching
54:08
porn, you're going to see very casually, like he's just like,
54:11
he's like, yeah. It's like who just watches porn?
54:13
This man. This man actually does read the
54:15
articles what's happening here, but what I read apparently this
54:21
is like flashes of what's on there are from the second Urban
54:27
Legends movie where there is a dream sequence where 1 character
54:30
is dreaming of having sex with somebody else.
54:33
Oh, that's kind of a cool little nod.
54:34
Yeah, I thought it was pretty interesting, but he runs out of
54:37
chips, so he's going to go to the vending machine to get some
54:40
more. He's got no money, so I don't
54:42
know how he thought that was going to happen.
54:44
He checks the the coin return and finds nothing.
54:46
And then he's like, I got long arms, I'm a football player.
54:52
And he reaches in there and this is what I'm talking about.
54:54
Like the kind of final destination feeling.
54:56
Yeah, cuz you think it's going to happen like that?
54:57
Yeah, but he as it falls, his hand comes free, he avoids the
55:01
machine crushing him, and he gets free chips.
55:04
Yep. So he just scoops them all up
55:05
and heads back. What a day to be, Buck.
55:07
Dude, his tummy's going to hurt. Yeah, that's not going.
55:10
To be that, I don't even want to think about how nasty and acidic
55:16
that vomit's going to be. No, it's not going to be good.
55:19
Well, we go back there. He's passed out from, you know,
55:22
watching porn. He's tuckered himself out there
55:25
and he's. Watching it for the putt.
55:28
Also his dog's super farty. Kind of like Talia here.
55:30
Talia. 'S yeah.
55:31
His dog's name is Chewie and he wakes up.
55:36
The porn is still on, so he hasn't been asleep for too long.
55:39
He reaches over to let Chewie continue licking his hand and
55:42
then he hears a dripping sound. So he goes to where the dripping
55:44
sound is, and he finds. The dog, it's tied up, killed in
55:52
the closet. I hate this symmetry.
55:54
And then we see a note that says humans can lick too.
55:58
God that is a creepy urban legend.
56:00
I there was like an illustration I saw of that.
56:03
That's like in my head always when I picture it.
56:06
It's scary, Yeah. And he he like he starts to
56:10
stumble back and then he. Marriott banner comes out.
56:14
Yep, right from under the bed, crawls over there and takes the
56:17
bottle with the finger in it, because we got that going here
56:20
too. Yeah, and just smashes it on him
56:22
and then takes the broken bottle and cuts him up.
56:25
At school, Sam's friends tell Sam and David that Buck is dead.
56:30
Coach Jacoby wasn't allowed to take off of work.
56:34
His son died. I know he wasn't allowed to
56:37
take. Off over there being comforted
56:39
by like the students, like Jesus.
56:41
What kind of like school do you guys run?
56:43
Maybe he wanted the the sympathy attention.
56:46
You know, he might have. I mean, he did kick out Bug.
56:49
Like there's probably a suspicion that he killed Bug
56:52
again, that story, we don't know what's happened with that.
56:54
One, he's like, he's like, I'm Don Shanks.
56:56
I really need to do what I can to get this decision off.
56:59
Yeah, he's like, I'm going to be seen crying in a public
57:01
stairway. Like, I was the guy and I always
57:03
know what you did last summer, and I was the Michael Myers with
57:06
a fat neck. Like, it's just not looking good
57:08
for Don Shanks. Here, like I know what I would
57:11
think if I wasn't me. Like I've got to be seen.
57:14
Morning. OK, so David goes back to talk
57:20
to Grace and he finds her door open.
57:25
And he goes in. He just walks in.
57:27
And she's about to spray them with bug spray and he's like,
57:30
ah, it's just me. And she goes, oh, I left the
57:31
door open for the cats. Plausible.
57:34
Sure, that's, you know, whatever.
57:37
It's like way too cold for like your cats just go running around
57:39
Grace, but whatever, she's high. So he asks once more.
57:42
He's like, I really need to know the names of the people who did
57:44
that. And she goes, I didn't tell back
57:46
then and I haven't told in 36 years.
57:49
I'm not going to tell you now, but I did always say all it
57:53
would take was to look at the pics in the archive.
57:55
Yeah, the yearbook. It's just that easy.
57:58
Yeah, she literally said like you can find it just from
58:00
looking at the pictures. It was our dates and it wasn't
58:03
not documented anywhere. Is that the cops really just
58:06
gave 0 shits? They really did, man.
58:08
Yeah. So he's going to the school to
58:11
go check that out. Meanwhile, Sam is back home, and
58:14
she's getting visions of Mary because she's looking at a chest
58:17
in her room. And now she's seeing what
58:19
happened to Mary. She sees that she's been like,
58:22
put in the chest. And she wasn't dead when she was
58:25
locked in there. Yeah, she just died from, you
58:27
know. Being locked in there, yeah.
58:30
So that's worse. I'd say that's worse.
58:33
That is a lot. Worse.
58:34
That sucks. So she tries to call David and
58:38
he's not answering his phone because he's deep in the
58:40
archives and, you know, looking at the pictures and he finds who
58:43
the 5th person is and he says holy shit.
58:48
So Sam goes to Grace's house because she thinks that's where
58:51
David still is. And she, Grace tells her that
58:56
she also sees Mary. She sees her all the time.
58:58
And she's was, I know what she needs.
59:00
And it's that she needs her body to be found and married.
59:02
And she was like, oh, well, I actually happened to know where
59:06
she might be because I had a flash.
59:09
So I need you to drive me to the school.
59:12
She reluctantly agreed. She's like God damn.
59:15
It I I love this because this whole third act is her just
59:18
going oh damn it. Yeah, I know.
59:20
Yeah. She calls the home because Grace
59:25
tells Sam that David went to go look in the archives and then
59:29
was going to go home. So Sam calls the home phone.
59:31
David can't find it to answer it, so she leaves a message
59:34
saying like hey meet me at the school, I figured out what we
59:37
need to do. And then he gets Billy bagged.
59:39
Oh yeah, yeah, Billy Bagged. I'm glad that you wrote that,
59:42
because I wrote that too. I knew you would write it, so I
59:44
wanted to. I wanted to impress you.
59:46
Thank you. And just so anybody know who
59:48
isn't aware, Billy bagging is the art of, you know, taking a
59:52
bag over somebody's face like Billy did in Black Christmas
59:55
Billy bagging. Billy bagging.
59:57
I'll get in the dictionary. Weapon is going to pick it up
59:59
one day. All right, So yeah.
1:00:01
And that's the last we see of David.
1:00:03
Like he's just fucking. That's just it.
1:00:05
Yeah, I. I hate that.
1:00:06
It's I always picture like when stuff like that happens.
1:00:09
I always picture the end of the hot tub episode in American Dad
1:00:13
where Cee Lo Green's like that's it, they're dead.
1:00:16
I also like vacation where like he's like bullying his little
1:00:20
younger brother's like bullying him.
1:00:22
He's like making eye contact with the girl in the back of the
1:00:24
car. It's so fucking funny.
1:00:31
Grace takes Sam to the school, but she won't go inside.
1:00:35
So Sam goes in. She finds the storage room and
1:00:37
she finds the trunk. And I got so mad because she
1:00:41
takes a crowbar and instead of using leverage, which is the
1:00:45
simple machine you want in this case, that lock has to be rested
1:00:49
as fuck. She's just, like, tab hitting
1:00:51
it. Yeah, yeah.
1:00:52
And not even that hard. And I was like, that's not how
1:00:55
you get a padlock to open, dummy.
1:00:58
And then it burst open. And you just looked over at me
1:01:00
like, guess you were proved wrong.
1:01:04
Yeah, help from Mary there. I think if.
1:01:08
Mary could have done that. She could have freed herself a
1:01:11
long time ago. She just needs somebody to,
1:01:12
like, tap it. She needs somebody to care.
1:01:15
That's what it was. So it's open and the remains are
1:01:19
still there. So she takes the little blanket
1:01:22
of whatever and wraps Mary up in it and starts running off.
1:01:25
Yeah, except then a mystery man arrives in the storage room.
1:01:30
But she's tricked him. She manages to get out before
1:01:33
you can find her, and she locks him in the storage room.
1:01:35
She starts to run. She trips over the mop bucket
1:01:38
that the janitor just left out. Just just left it out.
1:01:43
Dude's gonna have to refill that thing.
1:01:45
I would hope he would refill it anyway.
1:01:46
Have you ever mopped with dirty mop water?
1:01:48
It's disgusting. Yeah.
1:01:50
She makes it outside and Grace is like passed out on the
1:01:53
steering wheel and she just gets in there and drives off right as
1:01:58
the mystery man is. Approaching the van, which we
1:02:01
know who this is at this point, like I've been saying it since
1:02:05
halfway, or actually since the beginning.
1:02:07
I was like, oh, the one guy's name was Willie.
1:02:11
This guy's name is Bill. Bet he was Willie.
1:02:14
Definitely. Yep.
1:02:15
So he calls her on the cell phone while she's driving.
1:02:18
She's like, hey, like, no, she. Called.
1:02:20
This is what makes it worse. She calls him because she wants
1:02:23
his help, because she he is a trusted adult in her life.
1:02:27
And she's like, Bill, I can't get a hold of anybody else.
1:02:30
But I found Mary Banner's body. She's like, it's hard to
1:02:33
explain. He's like, where are you?
1:02:34
And she's like, I'm going to the cemetery.
1:02:36
Isn't crazy that the solution is not called the cops?
1:02:38
I found the remains, but I guess at this point you they've kind
1:02:41
of made it aware or clear that you don't call the cops because
1:02:44
the cops do not help. Yes, and also if your dad has an
1:02:47
in with the cops and he can explain the situation with a
1:02:49
little bit more finesse and maybe like kind of grease some
1:02:52
hands. Yeah, true.
1:02:54
So she arrives at the cemetery and they make it to the
1:02:59
tombstone and they're starting to dig it up, but the.
1:03:01
Ground is frozen, so Bill's like, don't worry, I'll take
1:03:05
care of this. And Sam is just like, she's so
1:03:10
sincere explaining all of this to him, like, she really
1:03:13
believes her own bullshit. And she really trusts this man.
1:03:17
And he's like, I'll take care of this sweetheart.
1:03:19
And she sits there, her back to him, and he goes, so who else
1:03:22
did you tell about this? And she was like, just David.
1:03:25
He was like, your mom doesn't know.
1:03:26
And she was like, no. And then he just fucking whacks
1:03:29
her with the shovel. Bonk.
1:03:31
Yep, right on the head. Knocks her out.
1:03:34
But here's The thing is that Sam had no reason to suspect him, so
1:03:38
she wasn't like trying to be sneaky or anything, She just
1:03:41
legitimately didn't think to mention that Grace was there
1:03:44
with her. Yeah, which worked out in favor.
1:03:47
Yeah, she tackles Bill down to the ground.
1:03:50
Fuck yeah, Grace. If we don't get Reese, at least
1:03:53
we get Grace. Yeah, it's true.
1:03:54
Yeah. Yeah.
1:03:55
Sam goes running and Bill starts to chase after her.
1:04:00
They have like a little fight that ensues here.
1:04:02
She tries to attack him, but he is bigger and older and more
1:04:06
motivated to not be arrested for murder, so he ends up knocking
1:04:10
her out and he starts to drag her over to the grave.
1:04:13
Puts the shovel right up to the jugular about to decapitate.
1:04:17
But before he does that, he kind of kicks Mary's bones to get
1:04:21
them out of the way, which puts them in the grave.
1:04:25
And pisses her off. And she comes up.
1:04:27
Dude, I like this because the song plays.
1:04:30
That's the song that they were dancing to at the beginning of
1:04:32
like the prom when they were leaving and the lights start to
1:04:36
flicker on the van and everything starts to go on and
1:04:39
then, yeah, it's like Mary. It's not Bloody Mary, it's Mary.
1:04:42
And she kisses him. And then she kills him with
1:04:45
Microsoft Movie Effects. Yeah, bad, bad, bad, not good.
1:04:54
I think that's a band. No, it's a song by MF Doom.
1:04:57
I oh, you know, I think you can. I think, I think this is the
1:05:01
part where Mary Lambert's like, and now they know that's a
1:05:03
ghost. Yeah.
1:05:05
See Microsoft Movie. Yeah, we did good.
1:05:09
I imagine her as like the mouse going.
1:05:14
Ghost so. Like watched scooby-doo with her
1:05:20
whole heart when she was younger and she was just like Oh my God,
1:05:24
old man Jenkins. Oh my gosh, old man Jenkins.
1:05:27
But why in? Fact.
1:05:28
We didn't get a mask for Ville. Here.
1:05:31
Damn shame. In the morning, Sam is just
1:05:34
still sitting out there in the freezing temperatures, but she's
1:05:37
had her head wrapped so don't worry, it's fine.
1:05:39
Her mom is not there because the cops still don't give a damn
1:05:41
about notifying parents about anything in this town.
1:05:44
She's dealing with David. OK?
1:05:46
Like they called her to David's crime scene.
1:05:48
Yeah. Probably, maybe, maybe.
1:05:50
Yeah, who knows? That's the other side of the
1:05:52
story that we're not getting here.
1:05:54
Yeah, but we learned that Bill is officially being declared as
1:05:57
having died of a heart attack. And Sam's just like, man, what a
1:06:03
wild urban legend. And Grace is like, you're the
1:06:05
urban legend. What kind of urban you?
1:06:08
So it's like the urban legend of Bloody Mary Part 2, but like,
1:06:12
what was her urban legend? She's still alive.
1:06:15
I yeah, I don't know that. Was a dumb line.
1:06:17
That was a dumb line. Doesn't make any sense.
1:06:20
Yeah, like girl believes in ghost story was actually her
1:06:23
dad. Yeah.
1:06:25
OK dad bonk with shovel. Kill kill brother with bag.
1:06:29
It just sounds like an episode of Buffy like.
1:06:32
Dude I think the better urban legend that spawned from this is
1:06:36
what happened with Don Chinks and Buck.
1:06:39
What's the urban like? You can do so many things to
1:06:42
like what happened that led to him being kicked out does.
1:06:45
Don Shanks actually think he murdered Buck.
1:06:50
I think he. Did he?
1:06:51
Did he spike? Did he put the finger in the
1:06:53
bourbon? He may have.
1:06:55
I think he blacked out and he doesn't remember what happened.
1:06:58
She's like. He's like, I probably killed him
1:07:00
like I've wanted to, yeah. Fucking chin strap, I tried to
1:07:03
tell him. Like he's like, I really just
1:07:07
wanted to roofie him so I can shave his face while he's
1:07:09
asleep. Yeah, then I put a finger in the
1:07:12
bottle and it just got all jumbled up from there.
1:07:14
He's just escalating. He got out of hand and I like
1:07:18
this is the post credits scene where he's like explaining his
1:07:21
side of events to the cops and then I killed Mary.
1:07:23
Oops. Damn.
1:07:27
But I never really do anything because she was a ghost.
1:07:29
You can't kill a ghost. This is an urban legend, guys.
1:07:33
And then like it like cuts over. And it was Rebecca Gayhart doing
1:07:37
the interview the entire time. Do you do you want that to be
1:07:40
her sequel? Yes.
1:07:41
Like what it is that right there?
1:07:43
What happened with Don Shanks in book?
1:07:45
Yeah, you got a whole other movie is worth of material right
1:07:50
there. Yeah.
1:07:51
I wanna see it. OK.
1:07:52
OK. All right.
1:07:54
So we've talked about it. Do we feel differently?
1:07:57
No. OK, listen, there are fun things
1:08:01
to talk about with this movie, and there's a better movie
1:08:03
inside of this movie, but unfortunately, we got what we
1:08:06
got. Yeah, I still believe in the
1:08:07
Urban Legend franchise and I think if they came out with
1:08:10
something in 2026, I would be all for it.
1:08:12
That's that's one that's prime for a reboot.
1:08:15
I think if they did it now they would focus on creepypastas.
1:08:19
Yes, absolutely. Like there's always gonna be
1:08:21
like a wealth of material, you know what I mean?
1:08:24
So I think we could easily do something with that.
1:08:26
I'm surprised that hasn't happened already, to be honest.
1:08:29
But yeah, I'm, I'm down for it. Yeah, I'm with you.
1:08:32
I'm not changing my score. It I mean, it is what it is,
1:08:34
man. Can you imagine like the the
1:08:37
dancing man creepypasta? Like you just have a puffy.
1:08:41
You mean the smiling? Man, Yeah, the smiling man.
1:08:43
Yeah, just have like a puffy coat person with like a mask
1:08:46
over top and they're just like doing a dance down the sidewalk.
1:08:49
With somebody that's fucking creepy.
1:08:51
Yeah. Jeff the killer?
1:08:52
Yes. Like there's, there's so many
1:08:55
options with it and I really hope that they will, you know,
1:08:58
they've had a 20 year break from this and they've maybe learned
1:09:01
some lessons. Yeah, make this happen.
1:09:04
We can do. This Maybe they realize that,
1:09:07
you know, having Bloody Mary be the name of the movie and the
1:09:11
primary urban legend, and also immediately naming one of the
1:09:17
dead teens is Mary. And maybe that's not such a hard
1:09:23
leap for people to take. Yeah, yeah.
1:09:26
OK, lessons can be learned here. Well, we know how we feel, but
1:09:30
how did Talia feel? Are we keeping our scores the
1:09:34
same? Yeah, I said I did 4.5 too.
1:09:37
I didn't know if we actually said that out loud.
1:09:40
All right, so Talia, she was pretty restless during this
1:09:42
movie. I think it made her nervous
1:09:45
because she like that's the time when her guard is most down is
1:09:48
when we're all asleep together, which is not ideal, but she has
1:09:51
to sleep sometimes and she wants to sleep in the bed with us.
1:09:54
So unfortunately, that means the house is left to Zoe's
1:09:57
protection. That's true.
1:09:59
And their alliance is new, so it's still kind of stressful to
1:10:03
her. Yeah.
1:10:04
So I think this movie brought up a lot of fears for her.
1:10:07
Also the dog licking the hand when she licks my hand all the
1:10:10
time. Yeah.
1:10:11
And that, I think, really upset her.
1:10:13
Yeah, yeah. So I think Talia, and honestly I
1:10:18
think Talia liked this more than we did.
1:10:19
I think she would give this A6. I think so too.
1:10:22
You know, it poised the dogs better yeah than it does humans,
1:10:25
maybe. Maybe this was meant for dogs?
1:10:27
Yeah, we just also get to. Enjoy.
1:10:29
Like Talia didn't realize that Mary Banner was Bloody Mary.
1:10:32
That was a revelation. Her mind, yeah, she didn't know
1:10:35
it was like a ghost until the very.
1:10:37
End Yeah, she's. Like, oh, she's like, oh,
1:10:39
Scooby-doo. She loves Scooby-doo, so yeah,
1:10:42
it's all coming together. OK, Zoe's ultimate warrior.
1:10:49
This is tough. This is tough, I think.
1:10:53
I'm going to say Grace because she gets high on catnip and
1:10:57
fucks things up all the time so she also likes the whole getting
1:11:02
high and fucking shit up. Zoe's the mellow one on catnip.
1:11:05
Scout's the one that wants to wrestle.
1:11:07
You're right. Scout gets real wrestly when
1:11:09
she's high. You're.
1:11:09
Right, OK, it's not, it's not Grace then.
1:11:12
OK, maybe Heather, because Heather drops off the history
1:11:19
book and she's like, here, deal with this.
1:11:22
Aren't you proud of me? That's kind of how Zoe is when
1:11:24
she catches things. That's true, yeah.
1:11:26
And then also like, she catches things in her mouth, which is
1:11:30
kind of what Heather was doing with the spiders.
1:11:34
Also, Zoe's more intentional with it.
1:11:35
Other than me, she's the one that deals with spiders than
1:11:39
those. Yeah, because she, like, she has
1:11:41
No Fear of spiders. Yeah, we have to.
1:11:43
Like, honestly, a lot of times I'm like, I don't know what kind
1:11:45
of spider that is. Please don't put it in your
1:11:47
mouth like I love. I have to chase.
1:11:49
Her. I love that she attacks them.
1:11:51
Honestly I love that we have a fearless cat that's just like
1:11:53
you have 8 legs and I don't give a fuck.
1:11:58
I got 2 Biggins right here. Oh God, the worst time was when
1:12:02
she chased a millipede. Get them in, I fucking love it.
1:12:06
Fuck them up. Like I will come in and finish
1:12:09
the job, but I like that she just like incapacitates them.
1:12:11
She does that's she's a fucking sadistical cat.
1:12:16
She'll like RIP all of their legs off.
1:12:18
She would be, she would be so heartbroken if she heard you
1:12:23
call her sadistic in that context because she'd be like,
1:12:25
I'm doing it for the family I love.
1:12:28
It man, that's a good thing I. Mean she'd be like Sir.
1:12:31
I stomped them. Is that not sadistic?
1:12:34
I mean from the from the bugs perspective, yeah.
1:12:36
Exactly. That's what I'm talking about.
1:12:39
OK, OK, what do we do now? Yeah, all right, we've done.
1:12:45
Who did I relate to? Yeah.
1:12:47
Oh boy. I think I related to Grace.
1:12:52
I like the idea of like, like getting real high and like
1:12:56
scaring kids about like urban legends.
1:12:59
Like you're coming in my home. I'm going to.
1:13:02
I'm going to make you spooked. I think, I guess I'd probably
1:13:07
relate to Sam because I would very easily be like, yeah, I
1:13:11
mean, it probably is a ghost. Like I would.
1:13:14
I would like, oh, there's a potential that being you guys.
1:13:17
It's probably Ghost then. Yeah, I could see that.
1:13:20
Yeah. You're and, you know, I, I would
1:13:22
also relate to David in that sense where I'm not one to
1:13:25
really believe the ghostliness of things.
1:13:27
Oh. My God, David.
1:13:30
Oh David, should we had one of those in this.
1:13:33
Way David. Oh OK, reviews.
1:13:41
Do we have reviews? Yeah, I think it is time for
1:13:43
reviews. Time reviews.
1:13:44
Oh wait, tagline. Yeah, we have to do it.
1:13:46
God, Tubey messes us up. Yeah, it does.
1:13:49
All right. Tagline Tagline.
1:13:54
Her revenge is legendary. Her venge is legendary.
1:13:59
That's basically the first tagline.
1:14:01
I don't remember what the taglines were.
1:14:02
I'm going to be really honest with you.
1:14:04
OK, it was beyond Mary's evil is beyond legend.
1:14:09
Yeah, but mine's better because it's not about her being evil,
1:14:12
it's about her having revenge, which is a little bit more
1:14:14
nervous and complicated, rather than calling a murdered girl
1:14:18
evil. Yeah, I guess, yeah.
1:14:22
Same story, new generation. I like, I like that.
1:14:29
Say it three times for the good times.
1:14:32
What does that even mean? What do you marry?
1:14:35
What is for the good times mean? Just good times, man, Having fun
1:14:40
out there with Buddy Mary. I don't know, because maybe
1:14:45
Buddy Mary doesn't have to always show up to just like kill
1:14:48
people. Like maybe she has Buddy Marys.
1:14:50
She's like, who wants Buddy Marys?
1:14:55
It could be, you know, like people like got their people
1:14:58
regularly get the wrong idea about me, but I'm here for a
1:15:01
good time, not for like, not that kind of blessed.
1:15:05
Urban Legend 3 Bloody Mary just like brunch.
1:15:09
I think he. There we go.
1:15:11
That's. Just like brunch.
1:15:13
Let's do that. Brunch is so fucking powerful.
1:15:19
Crunch is so fucking real. So.
1:15:21
Fucking real, yeah. Thank you.
1:15:23
I can't remember what adjective he is.
1:15:25
No, I mean, it's just like, yeah, people get their name
1:15:28
wrong. They just, they forget that.
1:15:29
Ease, buddy. Mary Ease.
1:15:31
Yeah, OK, there we go. Extra Tabasco.
1:15:34
Please don't mine. All right, cool.
1:15:37
All right so now we can do reviews.
1:15:41
OK so this time I decided to go with a non IMDb review.
1:15:46
OK I went with Dread central again.
1:15:50
It was the same thing where they were calling out.
1:15:51
They were like they did a preview but they also did a
1:15:53
review. OK, so this is.
1:15:55
A preview review. Yeah, though it still felt a bit
1:16:00
choppy, in part since I'm pretty sure it wasn't a final edit.
1:16:03
The flick still moves along at a relatively good pace until the
1:16:06
kill stop and our main characters learn just what Mary
1:16:09
is trying to do and try to stop her.
1:16:11
At that point, the movie slows way down, so much so that it's
1:16:14
almost enough to negate the fairly interesting, if not
1:16:16
excessively hokey at some point, story that came before.
1:16:20
The characters are pretty much your typical mix, with the lead
1:16:24
girl supposedly some kind of nerd, though her and her
1:16:26
friends, none of which could get dates to the dance, are
1:16:29
incredibly cute, at least for high school girls.
1:16:32
That's a weird comment to add in there.
1:16:34
Man editors. Please.
1:16:36
Please review lines like that that's.
1:16:38
The thing like if I turn that into like my teacher like they
1:16:41
would like highlight that and I put question marks like 3
1:16:44
question marks on there like. One in red and then it says see
1:16:48
me? Yeah.
1:16:50
This adds a bit of unrealism to the whole jocks versus nerd
1:16:53
secondary plot, but it's forgivable simply for the fact
1:16:56
that you've seen it happen a million times before and and
1:17:00
there's really nothing remarkable about Urban Legends
1:17:03
Bloody Mary, which is a shame because its premise is 1 ripe
1:17:06
with possibilities. Essentially, it's a throwback to
1:17:09
the teen horror films of the Dark Ages we call the 90s, with
1:17:11
some influence from more recent horror, notably the look of Mary
1:17:14
herself, which screams out The Ring, but with a more
1:17:18
intelligent script and more interesting characters.
1:17:20
The film is due for a direct to DVD release on July 19th, but
1:17:23
hopefully Sony will be nice enough to at least throw an
1:17:26
extra or two on it, if nothing else to appease the vengeful
1:17:29
spirits. I want to see whatever. 2 1/2
1:17:32
out of five. I want to see whatever cut this
1:17:34
guy saw. I know I've my theory is it's
1:17:38
the same. Yeah, I guess the line for
1:17:42
teenagers is kind of a red flag. Yeah, yeah.
1:17:46
All right, you know, 2 1/2 I make some good points like the
1:17:49
pacing is a little bit weird and that is.
1:17:51
Strange. But here's The thing is that the
1:17:52
pacing. I would say it's the opposite.
1:17:55
The beginning is a little bit slow and weird, and then it
1:17:58
picks up more towards the end. Yeah, no, I, I think you're
1:18:01
right actually. Like it's just, I don't know,
1:18:05
like, I mean, this movie is just very much like it is what it is.
1:18:08
Deal with it. It's not a great.
1:18:10
Fuck you. Yeah, but it's fine.
1:18:13
It's fine for some people. OK, so let's do some listener
1:18:18
reviews. OK, First off we have cube saves
1:18:21
I'm. Impressed.
1:18:22
We have reviews. We got more This movie doesn't
1:18:26
exist. It's that forgettable.
1:18:28
I mean, yeah. We forgot about it and we've
1:18:31
watched it before. Yeah, together.
1:18:33
Yeah, even. Yeah, and we now own it on DVD,
1:18:36
which, Yeah, OK. Next up we have Michael E Howard
1:18:42
who sits Urban Legends. Bloody Mary was OK, the acting
1:18:47
was decent, the killers were OK, but didn't feel it really
1:18:49
brought anything new and fun with it.
1:18:51
I wish it just didn't have the Urban Legends name.
1:18:53
It seems more of a supernatural revenge movie and just a simple
1:18:56
old watch. 6 1/2 out of 10. OK, All right.
1:19:00
Yeah, I can respect that. I mean, I do like that they do
1:19:03
sneak in a lot of urban legends in there.
1:19:05
Yeah. But it is kind of weird to have
1:19:07
an urban legend like based off of like an urban legends movie
1:19:10
based off of 1 urban legend. Yeah.
1:19:12
And then it is also weird that it goes from serial killer to
1:19:17
supernatural and I get why, like they were trying to stick with
1:19:20
what was popular, but it is a weird shift.
1:19:26
So I I wonder if we would think of this differently if it
1:19:29
wasn't. No, I think I'd still call it a
1:19:31
4 1/2 because I haven't even really been mostly comparing it
1:19:33
to the other ones. I haven't either, no.
1:19:35
As it stands, I think 4 1/2 is pretty much right.
1:19:37
But you know, like, I mean, it does have like some good too.
1:19:41
They're just good to be seen there.
1:19:43
It's just there's a lot of bad that overshadows it, I feel.
1:19:46
Yeah. Yeah, but, you know, some people
1:19:48
enjoy it. Yeah.
1:19:50
OK. OK.
1:19:51
All right. And that's it for reviews.
1:19:52
So thanks, everybody for submitting those.
1:19:54
Always love it when we get those on here.
1:19:56
All right, so that's it for this week.
1:19:59
We're gonna be closing out prom month next week.
1:20:04
You guys, part of the reason we started doing Texas Chainsaw as
1:20:08
our next franchise was because Travis did the math and realized
1:20:11
that we could cover next generation in prom month if we
1:20:15
started it when we. Did and it is a Texas Chainsaw
1:20:18
Massacre movie with prom. So it is all right.
1:20:21
So Texas Chainsaw Massacre Next Generation is currently
1:20:25
available for rent on YouTube, Google Play, Fandango at Home,
1:20:30
or Prime. If you've not seen this,
1:20:31
seriously, spend the $4.00 to watch.
1:20:33
Hold on, let me check. It was on shutter recently so.
1:20:36
Let me make sure yeah, Shutter doesn't like to pop up on my.
1:20:39
OK, it's gone now. It was only there for a month,
1:20:41
so we missed that. Yeah, I'm sorry.
1:20:44
Look, man, I'm just going to say it.
1:20:47
This isn't the best one, but if you're looking for an
1:20:49
interesting watch, absolutely watch Texas Chainsaw Massacre
1:20:53
The Next Generation because you might not like it, but you'll
1:20:57
have an experience to share. Matthew McConaughey.
1:21:03
Yeah, enough said. Also, Renee Zellweger.
1:21:06
Renee Zellweger. It's fucking bonkers.
1:21:10
That's just the tip of the iceberg it gets.
1:21:12
Dave Matthews. Dave Matthews Band.
1:21:17
Not really. But no, no, I was doing that
1:21:20
cadence, so I needed to keep it up.
1:21:21
Yeah. So yeah, if you can watch it, I
1:21:24
absolutely recommend it. Be prepared because we're going
1:21:27
to be talking. About it next week.
1:21:28
It's a movie that I firmly believe any horror fan should
1:21:31
watch at least once in their lives.
1:21:33
Dude, it's the one that got me into, well, maybe not got me
1:21:36
entirely into, but it was a big part of me being a big fan of
1:21:40
the franchise as a kid. So.
1:21:42
Just to say, OK, so there we go. We got this one done.
1:21:47
We would like to shout out our bubbies over on the Prom
1:21:50
Committee slash Patreon. For this month, we have Joe.
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Freakatron. As is his name, Amber, Michael
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or zombie Tyler, Chad, Johnny and Jason Thanks everybody for
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being patrons. We really, really appreciate all
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the support that you guys bring to the show.
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Means a whole lot to us. Thank you guys so so much.
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If you can't be patrons, we get it.
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You can do all kinds of other things to help the show.
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You can rate US and you can follow or subscribe to us
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whatever your platform does. Those are all huge things that
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help us. So if you haven't, please do cuz
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that that really is awesome. If you want to just talk to us,
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though, you can find us on our social media.
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We are on Instagram and threads at least favorite scary movie
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podcast, our blue skies at leastfavedpod.
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And we have a Gmail if you want to send an e-mail to
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usleastfavoritescarymovie@gmail.com and our website.
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What's your least favorite? Scary movie.com for everything
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else. Yep.
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And that wraps us up for this week.
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Yep. Thank you guys so much for being
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here and we'll see you next week.
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Yep, all right, see y'all until then.
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Bye. Travis forgot to pull that part
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up, so let's figure it out. Pull it up on our Instagram.
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I posted it. Oh, you did?
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Yeah, Sorry, I've already got it pulled up on here.