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It's All About Self-love with Daniel Du Bois · The Bridges and Beacons Podcast

• 0:39
  SPEAKER_01: Hello, hello, hello, and welcome to the Mystic Nerd Squad podcast.
• 0:44
  SPEAKER_01: I'm your host, Kelly Meyerson.
• 0:46
  SPEAKER_01: And on the other side of the virtual table from me is my friend and wizard, Daniel Dubois.
• 0:53
  SPEAKER_01: Welcome, Daniel.
• 0:55
  SPEAKER_00: Thanks, Kelly.
• 0:57
  SPEAKER_01: I am so excited to have you here.
• 0:59
  SPEAKER_01: I was just looking at the calendar and I realized that the last time that I had you on the podcast last season was almost exactly three months ago.
• 1:10
  SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah?
• 1:12
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:13
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you know what?
• 1:14
  SPEAKER_00: I was thinking about that too actually yesterday when I was uh reviewing the episode just to make sure we had everything.
• 1:20
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, you're right.
• 1:21
  SPEAKER_00: It's been uh well, financially it's been a quarter, but yeah, there's been uh it's been an interesting time in between.
• 1:28
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, definitely.
• 1:29
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, we had we last spoke uh November 2024.
• 1:35
  SPEAKER_01: So we've had the whole, you know, end of the fall, winter season into the new year.
• 1:42
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and January.
• 1:44
  SPEAKER_01: I know I live in the States, so uh there's been a lot of things on the political front.
• 1:51
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I am most excited that there's two things that are coming up, and you tell me if these are coming up for you too.
• 1:59
  SPEAKER_01: One, I felt the least like pressure in January to do the whole new year, new you thing, and more so the freedom to kind of cultivate January as what it needed to be for me.
• 2:16
  SPEAKER_01: For me, it was more incubation, cocooning, kind of that hibernation mode and getting ready.
• 2:23
  SPEAKER_01: So that was the one thing.
• 2:24
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and the second thing is I cannot go anywhere, and it's possibly because I'm connected with some very cool, very spiritual people.
• 2:33
  SPEAKER_01: But also, I think there is a bit of a trend with authenticity.
• 2:38
  SPEAKER_01: I keep running into that word everywhere I go, and I'm loving it.
• 2:42
  SPEAKER_01: What about you?
• 2:43
  SPEAKER_00: Well, that's absolutely it because me too.
• 2:45
  SPEAKER_00: January was just my message I kept getting was just just let it be.
• 2:49
  SPEAKER_00: Just relax, just do what you need to do, let it be.
• 2:54
  SPEAKER_00: And yes, like, and because we're going to be talking about being yourself and its value.
• 2:58
  SPEAKER_00: So, yes, authenticity has been a very big question.
• 3:01
  SPEAKER_00: Like, and I'm uh so I'm a food coach too, like, right, teaching people to eat.
• 3:05
  SPEAKER_00: And that's the big thing right now in coaching is also authenticity.
• 3:09
  SPEAKER_00: People don't need you to be polished, they don't need you to have all these uh, you know, the the buzzwords and all that kind of stuff.
• 3:15
  SPEAKER_00: They just need you to have to have an authentic connection with you.
• 3:18
  SPEAKER_00: Right now is the big thing in coaching for people.
• 3:20
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, it's totally been that, and there's a reason for that because well, you know, right, spring used to be the starting of the year until it got changed to January, and then now we have April Fool's Day instead of you know spring, instead of the new year, right?
• 3:36
  SPEAKER_00: Right, right.
• 3:38
  SPEAKER_00: So March, I think, is when things really kick in.
• 3:42
  SPEAKER_00: March is uh the time for like the year to start in reality.
• 3:48
  SPEAKER_00: So f or sorry, so January and February were the time to just take your time, be yourself, connect who you are, because going forward is going to be when things start.
• 4:02
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, I love that, and it feels so much more in alignment, and I feel so much more connected with the idea of embracing what makes sense for me.
• 4:15
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm not gonna say, Daniel, you need to do this too, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: Because what makes sense for you on your journey and how the seasons fall for you might be completely different.
• 4:27
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 4:27
  SPEAKER_00: And that's exactly it.
• 4:29
  SPEAKER_00: And that's the pretty much gonna be the point of our discussion is the just how important it is, even if you're not spiritual, how important it is to be you and to do you and be as clear as you are about who you are.
• 4:41
  SPEAKER_00: And it's funny, right?
• 4:42
  SPEAKER_00: Because we've discussed the idea of 2027 and human design is the big thing.
• 4:46
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 4:46
  SPEAKER_00: But depending on who you uh whose work you accept, so I don't I'm trying to remember how familiar your listeners might be with the idea of a Cali Yuga or a Yuga in general.
• 4:59
  SPEAKER_00: It's a kind of uh so as ages of a civilization then, like you would think like the golden age in Greek mythology, you know, and then it goes, and then everything kind of that's where everything is its highest, and then it kind of you know starts to fall, and everyone kind of eventually not devolves, but you know, we get to a point where we're as low as we can get, you know, as a species.
• 5:20
  SPEAKER_00: And so theoretically we're there.
• 5:23
  SPEAKER_00: And I think in Sanskrit it's the Kali Yuga, so the particular yuga is the Kali Yuga, it's where things are the worst they're going to be.
• 5:30
  SPEAKER_00: And in March, apparently, if you believe the guy's research, that's when the new yuga is going to start.
• 5:36
  SPEAKER_00: But it's also going to be another Kali Yuga.
• 5:38
  SPEAKER_00: But it's going to be like, you know what, when you you you drop, well, the next Kali Yuga is going to start de-escalation, but it's still going to be all the problems we have now, but we're going to come out of them in the next in that next period.
• 5:53
  SPEAKER_00: So, like, I mean, that's if you believe that, but you don't need a calculation, you don't need someone to tell you a yuga is coming to an end.
• 5:59
  SPEAKER_00: You can see it in the world.
• 6:00
  SPEAKER_00: You can see how people are behaving, you can see how things are going.
• 6:03
  SPEAKER_00: So you don't even need the mystical side of it to tell you that.
• 6:07
  SPEAKER_00: But that's apparently where we are.
• 6:09
  SPEAKER_00: But like I said, right?
• 6:10
  SPEAKER_00: Because 2025 was the year of being who you are and getting your stuff like that in order.
• 6:14
  SPEAKER_00: So it makes sense if a yuga is coming to an end.
• 6:16
  SPEAKER_00: So to go into the next one, you do have to kind of you have to learn the lessons of the yuga you're in to progress to the next one.
• 6:23
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 6:24
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 6:25
  SPEAKER_01: I think what's coming up to um for me is kind of really exploring and analyzing how much conditioning impacts who we become and how it shapes the way that we begin to behave, the way we begin to recognize and shift and alter who we are depending on the situation.
• 6:53
  SPEAKER_01: We can become chameleons and really sort of lose ourselves in that.
• 6:59
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and I'm excited for one, the idea that, you know, like you were saying earlier, like you're not showing up as who people like think you should be.
• 7:11
  SPEAKER_01: You're showing up as who you are with the wisdom that you have to impart it with someone and and bring about good.
• 7:19
  SPEAKER_01: And if it works for them, great.
• 7:21
  SPEAKER_01: If not, that's also okay.
• 7:24
  SPEAKER_01: I feel like that's such a breath of relief.
• 7:28
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_00: Now is not the time to tell people who to be.
• 7:31
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 7:33
  SPEAKER_00: And who now is the time to let people like the time to let people cultivate who they are on their own with their own self-thoughts.
• 7:40
  SPEAKER_00: And I'll tell you, because this is the thing.
• 7:42
  SPEAKER_00: I was teasing, I had teased Kelly with something earlier before we came on.
• 7:46
  SPEAKER_00: So I'll say it now, if that's fine, too, and then we can get the conversation from there.
• 7:50
  SPEAKER_00: So I had said on the last episode, but we didn't get as deep into it, you know, about it's it's you know, it's good, you have to be yourself.
• 7:58
  SPEAKER_00: It's time to be yourself, but there's a reason for it to be true to yourself.
• 8:01
  SPEAKER_00: And that's because since actually, since we've last spoke, because this yuga is coming to an end, it would be coming to an end soon, anyways, whether it's 2027 with human design or not, it now is the time where and that builds up to 2025.
• 8:14
  SPEAKER_00: It's that, and I never I'm gonna make this a bit of a story.
• 8:18
  SPEAKER_00: So I never can even considered what happened, what I have found out is a possibility.
• 8:23
  SPEAKER_00: You always think like, you know, when an age comes to an end, and if there's going to be a big thing, you think, oh, a hero will rise, that kind of idea, right?
• 8:30
  SPEAKER_00: But that's not what's going to happen.
• 8:34
  SPEAKER_00: What's going to happen is everyone's going to find out who they are and be who they are, and that's is what's going to carry everyone through.
• 8:44
  SPEAKER_00: And so I say that to say that in this again, because it it excites me, is that so there's new wisdom being sorry, not new wisdom, there was wisdom and downloads and synchronicities and magic even that were waiting for this moment.
• 9:02
  SPEAKER_00: And now it's been released.
• 9:05
  SPEAKER_00: And March is when people are going to probably start noticing what those things are.
• 9:10
  SPEAKER_00: But to get them, you have to be yourself.
• 9:13
  SPEAKER_00: And I first described this as like, you know, when you have like for most cars now, you have a fob, has a radio signal, tells the you know the car that you're the one driving it.
• 9:21
  SPEAKER_00: So you need to be yourself to send that signal.
• 9:26
  SPEAKER_00: So and this is also important, and you have to love yourself because loving yourself is loving who you are is going to boost that signal.
• 9:36
  SPEAKER_00: Now, there's another component to this that my uh co-host on my podcast told me, kind of described it as.
• 9:42
  SPEAKER_00: She says, look at it like you're covered in mud.
• 9:46
  SPEAKER_00: When you're not yourself, you're muddying yourself and you're covering.
• 9:49
  SPEAKER_00: And I had always looked at this like, okay, you need to broadcast the signal, and these new wisdoms and stuff have to find you.
• 9:55
  SPEAKER_00: But even if they find you, if you're still mired in the mud, even if your signal is strong enough to bring it over, you can't connect.
• 10:04
  SPEAKER_00: Like it can't connect to you because you have too many things in the way.
• 10:07
  SPEAKER_00: So not only are you broadcasting your signal, not only are you, you know, telling all these wisdom, all the wisdom that's meant for you where to go, but you have to be prepared to receive it.
• 10:17
  SPEAKER_00: And you can only do that by loving yourself.
• 10:20
  SPEAKER_00: You can recognize yourself and who you are, but if you don't love that, you're still not gonna allow this wisdom, this these synchronicities, this new magic, this magic, and all that stuff to come to you if you don't love who you are.
• 10:30
  SPEAKER_00: Because I mean, you could argue the idea of, well, it's a waste of time.
• 10:33
  SPEAKER_00: Why would it show up to you if you don't love yourself?
• 10:35
  SPEAKER_00: You're not gonna do with it.
• 10:36
  SPEAKER_00: So it'd be a waste of resources, but you need these resources, so it behooves you to start loving yourself and who you are, so that you can connect with these things.
• 10:46
  SPEAKER_00: That's the uh mystical side of it.
• 10:48
  SPEAKER_00: The practical side of it is, as I've told people before, is that your body needs you to be true to who you are so it knows how to spend its resources because it'll hold back resources, right?
• 10:57
  SPEAKER_00: And I mean, things like your health can go bad, you stop noticing things, you don't you even knock out your own opportunities because you're not making yourself present for it.
• 11:07
  SPEAKER_00: Never mind the magical side of it, just the practical side of it is you're not being yourself, so you're not allowing people to communicate with you.
• 11:13
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, or seeing what you are.
• 11:16
  SPEAKER_01: That's so true.
• 11:18
  SPEAKER_01: It's so true, and I think that's such a beautiful way to explain it to people.
• 11:26
  SPEAKER_01: I love the idea of the key fob, the mud.
• 11:28
  SPEAKER_01: I've also heard it described as like tuning on a radio.
• 11:32
  SPEAKER_01: And um, one of my favorite human design podcasts, uh Emma Dudwoody, the human design podcast, she talked about in a recent episode I listened to.
• 11:43
  SPEAKER_01: It was uh your original frequency.
• 11:46
  SPEAKER_01: And that like over time, like you've twisted the dial.
• 11:49
  SPEAKER_01: Those of us who are old enough to remember like a radio that you had to turn the dial.
• 11:55
  SPEAKER_01: Um, like if you if you got off of the frequency, like all of a sudden it's been the knobs have been turned too much and you it's like distorted and you can't hear it.
• 12:04
  SPEAKER_01: It's like going back to that original frequency, um, so that you that alignment happens and you're feeling the alignment.
• 12:13
  SPEAKER_01: And it becomes so much more easy to operate off of your original frequency.
• 12:20
  SPEAKER_01: Um easy in the sense that so many of us have been on the journey that's taken us off course so much that we're sort of finding that equilibrium again and finding ourselves again.
• 12:32
  SPEAKER_01: I think that piece of things that, you know, self-love is such a huge piece.
• 12:40
  SPEAKER_01: And for some, maybe one of the more challenging pieces.
• 12:46
  SPEAKER_01: But it's it doesn't require, like you said, it doesn't require you to understand a whole lot spiritually and mystically, but like to sit with what would it mean for me to actually love myself?
• 13:01
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 13:03
  SPEAKER_00: It's even funny because it's uh it's now a big component of my coaching practice where I tell people, like, you know, if you want to like, because people have things that get in their way, and especially with eating, right?
• 13:16
  SPEAKER_00: There's things you're so attached to, and you'll kind of even eat it to the point of punishing yourself because you crave that thing, and you'll eat more than you need and start to feel bad even while you're eating it, but you'll do it, you'll punish it yourself.
• 13:28
  SPEAKER_00: And there's kind of a sack of a lack of self-love in that because you're punishing yourself.
• 13:33
  SPEAKER_00: And even like, so I control my clients that idea.
• 13:36
  SPEAKER_00: I started doing it, and I'll tell you like, I I've gone back into like so I coach Wildfit, and there's a component called deep spring, so that you can do a metabolic uh readjustment.
• 13:46
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm doing it right now, I'm in week three of it, and I have no cravings.
• 13:51
  SPEAKER_00: I have like nothing.
• 13:52
  SPEAKER_00: It's just every time I look at something, and if it looks like it might give me a craving, I go, okay, what is this doing for me?
• 13:58
  SPEAKER_00: How is this showing love for myself?
• 14:01
  SPEAKER_00: And then it just turns off.
• 14:03
  SPEAKER_00: And even just even if my attention gets peaked for a second, it's gone.
• 14:06
  SPEAKER_00: There's no temptation whatsoever.
• 14:08
  SPEAKER_00: So there's so much to this that even you can look at the non-mystical side of it, that this message, you know, of loving yourself and knowing who you are.
• 14:18
  SPEAKER_00: And normally you punish yourself because you don't, because you're straying away from who you are and you're showing a lack of love for yourself in the first place.
• 14:25
  SPEAKER_00: That's why alcoholics are alcoholics, it's why drug addicts are drug addicts, it's why people who abuse food, like I used to do, like that's that's where it comes from.
• 14:33
  SPEAKER_00: It comes from that lack of self-love.
• 14:34
  SPEAKER_01: So I just had such a fantastic conversation um on the last episode, and we covered this topic um of being addicted to busyness and like and hustling for your self-worth.
• 14:55
  SPEAKER_01: You know, if you if you follow Brene Brown, but my my guest last week, Francine Terrell, and we talked about this this like, how do I get out of this like super addiction, which being busy, people can get super addicted to being busy and really believing that their self-worth is about what they do, not who they are.
• 15:22
  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
• 15:24
  SPEAKER_00: And that's a good one too, right?
• 15:26
  SPEAKER_00: Because you're not always going to be the things you do.
• 15:29
  SPEAKER_00: And we we kind of touched on that too when we talked last time on the podcast.
• 15:32
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, it's tying yourself to who you are is another way of basically telling yourself, I don't really love myself.
• 15:40
  SPEAKER_00: I need this outside validation from the accolades from doing my work or even the justification of my existence because I'm doing all this work.
• 15:49
  SPEAKER_00: But that's the I don't want to use the word wrong because there's like it's just another aspect of who you are, and you're just trying to find healing.
• 15:58
  SPEAKER_00: So you're trying to find your healing by doing extra stuff and thinking that'll give you value.
• 16:03
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, and there are days where you do have to work hard, where you have to put in more effort than you normally would.
• 16:08
  SPEAKER_00: Like that's just the the nature of the world.
• 16:10
  SPEAKER_00: There's some days you can't rest, and there's days where you can, but you rest on those days you can rest, and you do your best to be who you are.
• 16:16
  SPEAKER_00: On well, you don't really have to do your best to be who you are.
• 16:19
  SPEAKER_00: You are who you are.
• 16:20
  SPEAKER_00: It's when only when you get in your own way that you then have to make the effort to go back to it.
• 16:25
  SPEAKER_01: So true.
• 16:26
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I completely understand that.
• 16:32
  SPEAKER_01: And it really does wrap into your health and well-being.
• 16:38
  SPEAKER_01: Because when you're in that hustle mode for your worthiness, then taking rest feels like something you have to either earn or you just don't have time for it.
• 16:52
  SPEAKER_01: Whereas I feel like I plan my day around sleep, rest, nutrition, connection, and obviously, you know, like you said, we do sometimes you do have to work hard, but really honoring and recognizing that human bodies are vessels for a spirit.
• 17:17
  SPEAKER_01: And we are gifted as spirits with these human bodies that can do amazing things.
• 17:24
  SPEAKER_01: They're complex pieces of machinery.
• 17:27
  SPEAKER_01: Nervous system alone is like mind-blowing, right?
• 17:30
  SPEAKER_01: The way that we regenerate, the way that we learn, the way our subconscious works, super, super cool.
• 17:37
  SPEAKER_01: And we owe ourselves, our bodies, the the honor of carrying our spirit through a lifetime of learning and journey.
• 17:51
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I that's kind of how I feel that whatever you believe, where we came from, where we're going to, that we are gifted with this experience of being a human.
• 18:04
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 18:04
  SPEAKER_00: And you know, it's funny because adding on to what you're saying, especially when you said, you know, we owe it to ourselves.
• 18:09
  SPEAKER_00: I did a presentation on uh food and food energy, and I kind of haphazardly came into food magic.
• 18:17
  SPEAKER_00: But one of the part, one of the main takeaways from that talk was that you owe it to the food you eat to be the best you you are.
• 18:27
  SPEAKER_00: Because you're that that's nothing thinks it's food, right?
• 18:31
  SPEAKER_00: Everything thinks it's like even when you're being eaten, you don't think you're food, you're just like, oh my god, I want to get out of this situation.
• 18:36
  SPEAKER_01: I love that.
• 18:38
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 18:38
  SPEAKER_00: So you owe it to the like you've ended the story of that at of that whatever life form, because plants are living too, and they have their own version of a nervous system and their own thing, and they have their you know, they defend themselves and they do all their things too.
• 18:51
  SPEAKER_00: So you owe it to the things you consume to be the best you.
• 18:57
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, I never thought about it like that.
• 19:01
  SPEAKER_01: Um not exactly like that, but I have thought about it.
• 19:05
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, if you've ever if you've ever grown your own vegetables and pulled them from the earth that you've cultivated and watered and taken care of.
• 19:21
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and you know, when I was a child, my dad had a garden and I can remember pulling the carrots out of the ground, rinsing them off with the hose, and eating them right there.
• 19:33
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, you enjoy and feel that transfer of energy from the carrot to you.
• 19:41
  SPEAKER_01: I believed it was gonna, you know, cure my eyesight as a child.
• 19:44
  SPEAKER_01: So I I really ate the carrots and loved the carrots.
• 19:48
  SPEAKER_01: But we can get so busy that we forget to do that and to to really appreciate the food that we're eating um and be grateful, you know, not only for you know, the fact that it's uh there's food on our plate, we're able to afford to eat, all of those pieces, but where that food, that life, that energy that's coming from the food that was once a living had had living cells.
• 20:21
  SPEAKER_01: We'll say that because all of us have living cells.
• 20:24
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, you know, because saying that, right?
• 20:26
  SPEAKER_00: This was part of my my talk was that uh so I I kind of had everyone do the okay get into a deep meditative state, and I had them put themselves in the proper focus for receiving information and all that, right?
• 20:37
  SPEAKER_00: And I actually told the story of uh the death of a friend of mine's dad.
• 20:42
  SPEAKER_00: He was a shaman, and it was a whole different experience, right?
• 20:45
  SPEAKER_00: When I I because I was young at the time, but I thought, you know what, what what's it like when a shaman dies?
• 20:50
  SPEAKER_00: Like, how's that?
• 20:51
  SPEAKER_00: How does that what's that flow like?
• 20:54
  SPEAKER_00: And so I had this sense, like, you know, I've if you're familiar with the idea of a silver core, I think we discussed this.
• 20:59
  SPEAKER_00: I'm trying to remember now.
• 21:00
  SPEAKER_00: Anyway, so right, he felt like a husk.
• 21:03
  SPEAKER_00: We discussed this last time.
• 21:03
  SPEAKER_00: Now I remember I told this story.
• 21:05
  SPEAKER_00: So the thing was, so he had drained all the energy out of his cells and took them with him.
• 21:10
  SPEAKER_00: And when you're eating, this is the weird transition, right?
• 21:13
  SPEAKER_00: When you're eating, well, food, like your plants or animals, they have that in their cells too.
• 21:19
  SPEAKER_00: And that's what you're part of what you're consuming.
• 21:21
  SPEAKER_00: When you're eating, what you're doing, whether you realize it or not, is actually a life-renewing spell.
• 21:29
  SPEAKER_00: Every time you eat.
• 21:32
  SPEAKER_00: Because you're taking the spiritual energy of another creature.
• 21:34
  SPEAKER_00: You're not only taking the material and the biochemical responses and all that kind of thing, but you're also doing a transfer of spiritual energy to yourself.
• 21:43
  SPEAKER_00: So one, when you are like this is the funny part, right?
• 21:47
  SPEAKER_00: You can be haunted by your food.
• 21:48
  SPEAKER_00: It's hard nowadays because your food has been through a long process, and any like if you eat meat, it's been cut up and it's sent into different places.
• 21:56
  SPEAKER_00: So wherever the spirit of that animal decides to focus, you know, whatever.
• 22:01
  SPEAKER_00: But like you should honor your food that you're eating because it helps at least the spirit that passed so that you can continue living to at least be fine with their existence.
• 22:11
  SPEAKER_00: Because we have an instinct of, okay, I messed up and I died.
• 22:15
  SPEAKER_00: Like, you know, I messed up, but that's the way things are.
• 22:17
  SPEAKER_00: And then we're kind of okay with it.
• 22:19
  SPEAKER_00: We kind of have peace with that.
• 22:20
  SPEAKER_00: It's only when it's really, really bad or really, really something really awkward or distasteful happens that we kind of start to feel bad about it.
• 22:28
  SPEAKER_00: So even if you're eating something, right?
• 22:31
  SPEAKER_00: Hunted food, I like that idea.
• 22:32
  SPEAKER_00: But anyway, like you you honor, you take those old traditions.
• 22:37
  SPEAKER_00: Of honoring, even if you do grace or whatever, you know, but you honor the food you're eating, so that at least the spirit that you're taking energy from.
• 22:45
  SPEAKER_00: Well, you're taking the energy that animates the cells, you're not taking their actual spirit, but you're taking that energy that that binds the spirit to the world.
• 22:53
  SPEAKER_00: So you're disconnecting it from the world and you're continuing on your journey by consuming its energy.
• 22:58
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah.
• 23:01
  SPEAKER_01: Well, and that also takes me to think about processed food that is like just so you know, heavily processed and goes through so much that it's like it's really less food and more different chemical compositions, and you know, and it's not not typically quite as nutritious.
• 23:28
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and I eat processed food, so I'm it is not a judgment that it that it is.
• 23:32
  SPEAKER_01: It just this is more facts, science, you know, it's less nutritious because it's at such a strong distance from the original, what it started as, you know, whether it was rice, grains of wheat, you know, a vegetable of some sort, a piece of fruit.
• 23:52
  SPEAKER_01: Um yeah, it makes me more excited to eat whole foods because you get to have more of that experience of that piece of food.
• 24:03
  SPEAKER_00: That's exactly it.
• 24:04
  SPEAKER_00: You get uh you get the energy, and yes, because when a food the more it's processed, the more actually you do start to kill the cells.
• 24:11
  SPEAKER_00: So you do remove the spiritual binding energies that energy that binds the spirit to the body in the first place.
• 24:17
  SPEAKER_00: So you are in fact making it harder to continue living, not just bad chemical reactions, but you're also not having that same connection on a spiritual sense as well.
• 24:26
  SPEAKER_00: So it's all over the place, not really a good thing.
• 24:29
  SPEAKER_01: It's making me less excited to eat potato chips.
• 24:32
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 24:35
  SPEAKER_00: And you know, it's not specifically my intention, but I mean, I'm glad that's your takeaway.
• 24:40
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 24:41
  SPEAKER_00: Because it benefits you in the long run.
• 24:43
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 24:43
  SPEAKER_01: It's making me think, like, and I also think there's something to be said for eating for the seasons, eating what is currently available.
• 24:54
  SPEAKER_01: So this time of year is, you know, if we were eating more based on where we live and the location where I live, it's winter, snowing, the ground is hard.
• 25:06
  SPEAKER_01: Like we're not growing vegetables in my backyard right now.
• 25:09
  SPEAKER_00: Now is a meat time.
• 25:10
  SPEAKER_01: Now is a meat time.
• 25:12
  SPEAKER_01: And you know what?
• 25:12
  SPEAKER_01: I re I'm I'm laughing because at dinner tonight I was like, I had my one hamburger, and then I just had like just another plain burger just by itself.
• 25:24
  SPEAKER_01: Like I'm like a protein girl.
• 25:26
  SPEAKER_01: So like that's what I really felt like my system needed.
• 25:32
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I had a funny discussion about this today, actually.
• 25:35
  SPEAKER_00: Like, because so normally, right, throughout this season, when you start with spring, you have your green stuff and it's not very sweet.
• 25:41
  SPEAKER_00: But as you go through the year, things get sweeter and sweeter until you get into fall, where it's that's your sweetest foods right there.
• 25:48
  SPEAKER_00: You know, you're not gonna get sweeter than that.
• 25:50
  SPEAKER_00: But what follows next is usually enforced fasting time because like we we evolved out of Africa, right?
• 25:56
  SPEAKER_00: So this would normally mean a time without water.
• 26:00
  SPEAKER_00: So you would have no water and you might not have vegetables and stuff like that to eat.
• 26:04
  SPEAKER_00: So you get crabbier going on through the year as you have more sugar.
• 26:07
  SPEAKER_00: And even you can watch yourself if you cut sugar out of like refined sugar out for a while, see how your behavior and how your reactions to things change.
• 26:15
  SPEAKER_00: But you know, it kind of made me think about meat though, too, because you're not as uh you're not in a hurry to hunt in the spring because you have stuff coming out and even in the summer, like so.
• 26:27
  SPEAKER_00: You can just, you know, you can forage and eat, even even if you're hunting, there's still food around you.
• 26:32
  SPEAKER_00: So you're not as uh you don't feel as compelled.
• 26:36
  SPEAKER_00: But when you get to winter, and a lot of times the only thing you can eat is meat.
• 26:41
  SPEAKER_00: So probably too much meat consumption might actually have a similar concept.
• 26:44
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know yet, but I just I was thinking about it today from a conversation I was having.
• 26:49
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I I I think that there's something to it.
• 26:53
  SPEAKER_01: And I find sometimes in the summer, I don't really I feel like I just want like a salad.
• 26:58
  SPEAKER_01: I just want a bunch of vegetables, and you know, um I feel like it's also that intuitive side of eating.
• 27:08
  SPEAKER_01: And when you're more attuned to your body, you sort of go with what is it really that I need right now?
• 27:15
  SPEAKER_01: Um that's when I'm doing my best with nutrition, not when I'm my busiest and like, all right, what's gonna give me the biggest bang for my buck right now so I can move on and do the next part of my day.
• 27:27
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 27:27
  SPEAKER_00: Well, you know, and it's you know, when you say that, because today I did an unintentional 24-hour fast.
• 27:34
  SPEAKER_00: I was just kind of like coming around to make supper for myself, and I was like, when was the last time I ate?
• 27:39
  SPEAKER_00: Oh crap, that was like 25 hours or 26 hours ago.
• 27:44
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 27:45
  SPEAKER_00: Because I wasn't hungry, but like because where I am right now, I'm flushing out all the toxins and stuff like that and rebuilding the nutrition.
• 27:51
  SPEAKER_00: So when you have your nutrition, you don't have to eat.
• 27:54
  SPEAKER_00: It's like your car, right?
• 27:55
  SPEAKER_00: You don't fill up your gas tank for a five-minute drive and then go back to the gas station and fill it up again.
• 28:00
  SPEAKER_00: No, you let you drive until it's time to fill up again.
• 28:04
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 28:04
  SPEAKER_00: Eating is the same way.
• 28:06
  SPEAKER_00: As long as you have all your nutrition you need at the moment, you're fine.
• 28:09
  SPEAKER_00: You can go days without eating.
• 28:10
  SPEAKER_00: As long as you have water, usually, and you know, sleep and all that kind of stuff.
• 28:14
  SPEAKER_00: But food is not something that you need to do every day.
• 28:17
  SPEAKER_01: Hmm.
• 28:18
  SPEAKER_01: Now, this is fascinating.
• 28:20
  SPEAKER_01: This is where it gets really interesting because now we're like breaking up all of the, you know, the false nutrition information, the like the the trends that come through the, you know, there's intermittent fasting, there's keto diets, there's all different kinds of.
• 28:40
  SPEAKER_01: I I'm personally fascinated by how your DNA makeup, your ancestry impacts your your food choices.
• 28:50
  SPEAKER_01: Like, for example, I'm allergic to gluten.
• 28:54
  SPEAKER_01: And uh my background in history, a lot of my DNA when I had it tested is from either England, Ireland, or Norwegian countries.
• 29:05
  SPEAKER_01: And like England and Ireland is like such a huge prevalence of gluten intolerance and celiac disease for whatever reason.
• 29:15
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but do I love potatoes?
• 29:18
  SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
• 29:19
  SPEAKER_01: You know, potatoes seem to go okay.
• 29:22
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and that's the thing with eating, right?
• 29:23
  SPEAKER_00: Like, if you look at, would you find this in nature?
• 29:28
  SPEAKER_02: Mm-hmm.
• 29:29
  SPEAKER_00: Probably you wouldn't.
• 29:30
  SPEAKER_00: You wouldn't find a loaf of bread in nature, so maybe it's not essential to you to eat.
• 29:33
  SPEAKER_00: Right?
• 29:34
  SPEAKER_00: But when you think about it, right?
• 29:36
  SPEAKER_00: Part of uh eating, especially plants, like animals will fight you, plants will poison you.
• 29:43
  SPEAKER_00: This is all plants you eat.
• 29:45
  SPEAKER_00: They have their anti-nutrients.
• 29:46
  SPEAKER_00: It's just that we're more we're evolved to eat certain and ignore their toxins, right?
• 29:51
  SPEAKER_00: But you still have to rotate your vegetables because after a while, that's where allergies come from.
• 29:56
  SPEAKER_00: You've built up too much of the toxins from that plant's defenses, even though you have an adaptation to it.
• 30:01
  SPEAKER_00: Over time, if you never vary it, you're gonna start developing allergies because you've taken too many toxins and until you flush your system, you're going to keep having an allergy to it.
• 30:11
  SPEAKER_00: And grains, like we're not naturally designed to eat grains, right?
• 30:15
  SPEAKER_00: So when we grind it up and make flour, we make all of even the toxic parts of it bioavailable to us.
• 30:24
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 30:25
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 30:25
  SPEAKER_01: So you have to watch your grains.
• 30:28
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 30:28
  SPEAKER_00: And you know what?
• 30:29
  SPEAKER_00: It it the most natural thing in the world is if you need calories, eat what you want.
• 30:35
  SPEAKER_00: That's my thing.
• 30:36
  SPEAKER_00: If you need those calories to survive, have bread, have milk.
• 30:40
  SPEAKER_00: Because like we are naturally lactose intolerant as we get older, right?
• 30:44
  SPEAKER_00: And it causes inflammation and stuff like that.
• 30:47
  SPEAKER_00: And uh it makes our body acidic.
• 30:50
  SPEAKER_00: So the calcium we're getting from it is not enough to compensate for the calcium we're drawing from our bones to bring back the pH of our body to level.
• 30:59
  SPEAKER_00: So, but it has a lot of calories.
• 31:01
  SPEAKER_00: So if you're again low on calories, please have milk, have cheese, whatever.
• 31:05
  SPEAKER_00: Just don't make it your regular routine.
• 31:08
  SPEAKER_00: And you're allowed to eat what you want because if you want something so bad and you're so freaking out over it and it's like starting to stress you out, well, then you're making cortisol and you're not going to digest food properly, anyways, and you're, you know, all the good things you want from your digestion is not gonna happen.
• 31:25
  SPEAKER_00: So listen, take the hit, get your calories, do what you need to do.
• 31:30
  SPEAKER_00: But don't again, don't make a habit of it.
• 31:34
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I feel like it really does come down to everything in moderation.
• 31:40
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I know for me, I growing up, I even when I was little, I had like crippling headaches and migraines and uh acid reflux when I was like, I can remember being 10 and having to eat tombs.
• 31:56
  SPEAKER_01: Now I recognized in my 20s that it I I said, I think it's dairy, and I think it's gluten, and I think I don't want to eat them anymore.
• 32:07
  SPEAKER_01: And you know, when I had testing for celiacs, they didn't have celiacs.
• 32:14
  SPEAKER_01: But when I had allergy testing later on and they did like all the skin pressure testing, I'm allergic to gluten and a bunch of other stuff.
• 32:24
  SPEAKER_01: But I'm just so fascinated by what you said about uh animals will fight you and plants will poison you.
• 32:33
  SPEAKER_01: That makes so much sense to me with like the challenges that I've had with food, because the things that I have realized over time, and I've gone through different iterations of you know, I won't say like diet diet, but more so uh lifestyle choices and a particular set of food rules, you know, based on more now the food chemistry.
• 33:02
  SPEAKER_01: I'm on a low FOD map diet.
• 33:05
  SPEAKER_01: So um and I realized looking at that, probably that's what I needed all along.
• 33:12
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, because I've never been able to tolerate dairy.
• 33:14
  SPEAKER_01: I've probably I do you know, I used to go down the bread aisle and I had to like hold my nose.
• 33:20
  SPEAKER_01: I can't stand this.
• 33:21
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
• 33:22
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 33:23
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I'm like that when I shop and I'm not hungry.
• 33:25
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not hungry and I go to a grocery store.
• 33:27
  SPEAKER_00: It's just like, okay, here's my list, here's what I gotta buy.
• 33:30
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, I gotta or I go hungry.
• 33:33
  SPEAKER_04: Or I go not hungry.
• 33:35
  SPEAKER_00: I still have my list because I still only have a certain amount of money to spend on it.
• 33:38
  SPEAKER_00: So I tend to work it tends to work out for me that I don't start buying stuff on impulse.
• 33:44
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, like it's hard for me to go into a grocery store when I'm not hungry.
• 33:47
  SPEAKER_01: Hmm.
• 33:50
  SPEAKER_01: That is so fascinating.
• 33:52
  SPEAKER_01: I've always tried not to go either hungry or thirsty, like at a very like satiated level.
• 33:59
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, you know, not overstuffed because then you don't even want to look at food.
• 34:03
  SPEAKER_01: Well, yeah.
• 34:03
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I made the mistake of going food shopping when I was really thirsty, and all of a sudden, you know, your cart is full of water and seltzers and juice, you know, your body's trying to replenish.
• 34:16
  SPEAKER_00: Well, and that's the thing, right?
• 34:18
  SPEAKER_00: Because we have our ancestors' instincts, we still have those, they haven't gone away.
• 34:21
  SPEAKER_00: Modern human beings have been around for a long, long time, you know, like for tens of thousands of years.
• 34:27
  SPEAKER_00: So it's not like you know, we're like we still had those those requirements for survival were there, and we still have them.
• 34:35
  SPEAKER_00: So if we go into a grocery store hungry, especially if we're lacking a certain nutrient, we're gonna look for that nutrient.
• 34:41
  SPEAKER_00: But we can only buy the things we know where that nutrient is, right?
• 34:43
  SPEAKER_00: So that's one of the things about teaching yourself to eat, is the knowing where to find those nutrients.
• 34:48
  SPEAKER_00: So, and I'll tell you this story like when I was young, salt.
• 34:52
  SPEAKER_00: So I got to a point where if I want something, if I was low on salt, I would eat chips or something in that vein, right?
• 34:58
  SPEAKER_00: That was heavily salted.
• 35:00
  SPEAKER_00: And I started noticing that I'm like, I keep craving chips whenever I'm hungry.
• 35:04
  SPEAKER_00: And then I'm gonna try something else, right?
• 35:05
  SPEAKER_00: And then I would have like vegetables that put a little bunch of salt on them, and that would kind of hit the craving, or I would take things that have brine, like a pickle or something like that, that was in brine.
• 35:14
  SPEAKER_00: And then, like, so I've gotten away from eating chips and those kinds of things to satisfy that salt, to then having brine.
• 35:19
  SPEAKER_00: And now sometimes I just eat salt directly.
• 35:21
  SPEAKER_00: Like I'll just take a few grains and but I use Himalayan salt, right?
• 35:24
  SPEAKER_00: So they come in little chunks.
• 35:26
  SPEAKER_00: They're so I'll have a couple of those to satisfy it.
• 35:29
  SPEAKER_00: But I went from that, but that's because my body only knew to find nutrients in certain places.
• 35:34
  SPEAKER_00: So some of your bad eating habits come from you just don't know where to find the food.
• 35:37
  SPEAKER_00: So your body goes, Well, this is where we know it's from.
• 35:40
  SPEAKER_00: We know when you eat this, we get this, so go eat that.
• 35:43
  SPEAKER_00: But you know, if the food's not really good for you overall, but it has some of those nutrients, because you still pull nutrients out of it, it's just you also pull the anti-nutrients or the not so nutritious stuff out of it.
• 35:54
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, yes, you do.
• 35:58
  SPEAKER_00: But learn what foods have, what nutrition, and and you know, so the program I quote, well, it's called Wilder Body.
• 36:06
  SPEAKER_00: Now they just did a change to the name of the program, but the company is still outfit.
• 36:10
  SPEAKER_00: But so they're gonna make a plug.
• 36:13
  SPEAKER_00: They're gonna be very proud of me actually for saying this.
• 36:15
  SPEAKER_00: So there's a component to it after you do, we do there's a sort of like a 90-day, it's in transition, but it's about 90 days.
• 36:22
  SPEAKER_00: There's a it's breaking down, but right now the current version is still 90 days.
• 36:27
  SPEAKER_00: And part of it is you do like a metabolic re readjustment.
• 36:30
  SPEAKER_00: We show you what it's actually like to eat, you know, food that's actually good for you as a body.
• 36:35
  SPEAKER_00: But then after you can sign up for something called Living Well Fit, where you get a database of foods and their nutrients and stuff like that.
• 36:40
  SPEAKER_00: So you don't have to spend your whole day going through every book and trying to figure out everything because that's a big one, right?
• 36:46
  SPEAKER_00: Like, and your ancestors didn't have this book, everything was just readily available in the environment for them to eat.
• 36:51
  SPEAKER_00: But in modern times, we don't have that, so someone has to put the work in to figure out what has what and can you absorb it?
• 36:57
  SPEAKER_00: Is it bioavailable to you?
• 36:59
  SPEAKER_00: This whole thing of right, so that's why I kind of I teach it because I was like, oh my god, this is actually a great idea.
• 37:03
  SPEAKER_00: And I already believed in the idea of like, because in my own journey of eating, right?
• 37:07
  SPEAKER_00: It's like the well, what can I eat?
• 37:09
  SPEAKER_00: You know, I looked at the Canadian food guide, but I found out that year that what happens is after all the nutritionists and doctors go through it, then the lobby groups come in, and I'm like, and that actually had a role uh role in my decision about getting vaccinated for COVID, because it's like the well, I know how this works.
• 37:26
  SPEAKER_00: The doctors are gonna say something, and then the lobby groups are gonna come in, and then the recommendations are not necessarily going to be medically sound, though, like they can't be criminally unsound, but you know, there is gonna be issues, so it's kind of like that.
• 39:02
  SPEAKER_00: But a remarkably healthy body will be able to fight off a lot of things because in the end, whether you get vaccinated or don't get vaccinated, it's your immune system response that matters.
• 39:10
  SPEAKER_00: Whether your body goes in knowing the enemy or having to do to learn the enemy, you still need that in like you know, your body still has to have the strength to do it.
• 39:19
  SPEAKER_00: So vaccinating someone who doesn't have the ability to build up to to fight in the first place doesn't matter.
• 39:26
  SPEAKER_00: Really.
• 39:28
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 39:29
  SPEAKER_01: Uh it's making me think, too, that this is another area that is so important to follow bodily autonomy and the individuality and the individual choices that we can make for the nutrition that works for us, for the exercise diet plan, medical care that works for us, and understanding that just because it's you know prescribed by a particular group doesn't mean that that is medically sound for you.
• 40:10
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 40:11
  SPEAKER_00: And because the nerd part of this podcast, here's a big secret for people in case they're one trying to make decisions.
• 40:18
  SPEAKER_00: Statistics are about groups, not individuals.
• 40:22
  SPEAKER_00: The last I heard it was like 40 people or something like that.
• 40:24
  SPEAKER_00: That was actually a higher number than I thought, but 40 people died from getting COVID vaccines.
• 40:29
  SPEAKER_00: But out of the millions of people who didn't die, that's a very small number.
• 40:33
  SPEAKER_00: But guess what?
• 40:33
  SPEAKER_00: Those 40 people still died.
• 40:35
  SPEAKER_00: They thought they were fine.
• 40:36
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, the odds are in my favor.
• 40:38
  SPEAKER_00: Well, no, the odds are in the group's favor.
• 40:41
  SPEAKER_00: The odds are not you is in individuals' favor.
• 40:44
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 40:45
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 40:46
  SPEAKER_01: And I mean, I I mean, obviously, to some degree, it it has to be that way.
• 40:53
  SPEAKER_01: It's a system, it's supposed to function, but we get to be intelligent consumers of everything.
• 41:04
  SPEAKER_01: Food, medicine, news, media, you know, all of those things, what we put in our bodies and our heads, we get to be intelligent and have discernment about.
• 41:19
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 41:19
  SPEAKER_00: Because and you don't know, right?
• 41:21
  SPEAKER_00: Like no product is tested on you.
• 41:24
  SPEAKER_00: So you don't know how it reacts with you.
• 41:25
  SPEAKER_00: And that's the like the unofficial testing of any medication, the unofficial, there's an unofficial fourth uh stage of testing, and that's when you release the product into the world.
• 41:36
  SPEAKER_00: And you know, because people will say, Oh, they're using this as guinea pigs.
• 41:39
  SPEAKER_00: Well, they kind of have no choice, like in all honesty, like you can only test for so much in the lab, but once you go out and you put it out there, that's how you're going to know how it interacts with this hair product or this food product or this candy or this you know, after shaver or whatever.
• 41:55
  SPEAKER_00: You don't know the effects of those on your body.
• 41:57
  SPEAKER_00: So no one knows until it's actually put out into the public.
• 42:01
  SPEAKER_00: You like, you know, they're fairly certain it'll be okay when they put it out there.
• 42:06
  SPEAKER_00: They're not like going, ha ha ha.
• 42:08
  SPEAKER_04: Right.
• 42:09
  SPEAKER_00: Well, some companies have, and I've actually had that experience where I I won uh the lottery of having actually a permanent side effect from a drug that was, you know, but it's not that bad because you I can manage it just by eating properly.
• 42:22
  SPEAKER_00: So but yeah, like those things are out there, but you still as an individual still have to find out what it does for you.
• 42:29
  SPEAKER_00: Just because it's safe for everyone else doesn't mean like, you know, the first person to die eating an orange.
• 42:36
  SPEAKER_00: Everyone else was fine with eating the orange, so why did it kill that person?
• 42:40
  SPEAKER_04: Right.
• 42:40
  SPEAKER_00: Or why did a peanut kill that person, or why did this kill that person, right?
• 42:44
  SPEAKER_00: Just because the rest can do it doesn't mean you individually can do it.
• 42:47
  SPEAKER_00: Or even, you know, exercise-wise, like I have a club foot.
• 42:50
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I've had surgery to straighten it out.
• 42:52
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not saying correct it because it didn't correct it.
• 42:54
  SPEAKER_00: Like I still have the issues like muscular uh entropy and stuff that come with it, and tightness of tendons and stuff.
• 43:00
  SPEAKER_00: But when I work out, I have to adjust exercises for it.
• 43:04
  SPEAKER_00: So I have to figure that out on my own what to do.
• 43:07
  SPEAKER_00: So, like there's everything is set out for what the general public can do, and then you on your own as an individual have to figure out how does that work for you.
• 43:16
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 43:17
  SPEAKER_00: I think love yourself so that you have the patience to do it.
• 43:21
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 43:22
  SPEAKER_01: So love yourself.
• 43:23
  SPEAKER_01: I love that.
• 43:24
  SPEAKER_01: I think that's so valuable for people because there's so much desire, I think, among people to do better, to get better, to grow, to learn.
• 43:40
  SPEAKER_01: And you can fall into that trap of I think you even said it in such a way like do exactly this way.
• 43:46
  SPEAKER_01: This is the way you do it, this is the way it works, as if it's universal.
• 43:51
  SPEAKER_01: Um I tend to find the things that are more like let's take a little bit longer to figure out for you individually what works best.
• 44:02
  SPEAKER_01: You know, like for example, I hired someone to help me with fitness this year because one, I don't prioritize it enough for myself.
• 44:12
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 44:12
  SPEAKER_00: That's I don't know if the risk can hear it, but yeah.
• 44:16
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, that has been a challenge for me forever.
• 44:20
  SPEAKER_01: I'm always very busy, but like finding the time to actually do real exercise, that's not just stress on my heart, you know.
• 44:28
  SPEAKER_01: So I but it's a challenge for me for a number of different reasons physically.
• 44:36
  SPEAKER_01: And I want to be able to do the right things to keep my body strong, to get stronger, to move better, to be able to grow into, you know, my 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, and be mobile and functioning as best I can.
• 44:52
  SPEAKER_01: Um and I was able to hire someone who could say, okay, tell me what your goals are.
• 44:58
  SPEAKER_01: What do you want to do?
• 44:59
  SPEAKER_01: Like what works for you?
• 45:00
  SPEAKER_01: What do you enjoy?
• 45:01
  SPEAKER_01: What doesn't work for you?
• 45:03
  SPEAKER_01: And she's customizing workouts for me based on me, not me putting on, you know, uh an exercise tape and doing what they tell me to do or joining a class in a gym.
• 45:16
  SPEAKER_01: But she's telling, she's saying, This is what's going to work for you.
• 45:21
  SPEAKER_01: These are the things that are going to help your body.
• 45:24
  SPEAKER_01: And I feel so much better doing it because I'm not pushing myself past the limits that I think I can.
• 45:32
  SPEAKER_01: And I know that I think it's, you know, partially how my body handles stress, but partially because I'm an A-type blood type.
• 45:42
  SPEAKER_01: This is where we get really geeking out on things.
• 45:44
  SPEAKER_01: But um, A-type blood types can experience high levels of cortisol, like normally, and exercise, if you push too hard, can just create more cortisol, which, like you mentioned.
• 45:58
  SPEAKER_01: Before only helps you retain fat and not burn.
• 46:03
  SPEAKER_00: So and you know, I was gonna say um part of exercising is that so any success you want to have, your subconscious mind has to trust you.
• 46:14
  SPEAKER_00: And I kind of learned this a little bit.
• 46:17
  SPEAKER_00: I was working out, but I didn't use the spotter.
• 46:19
  SPEAKER_00: So I didn't want to use more weights than I could handle if a situation came up.
• 46:23
  SPEAKER_00: So I decided to be more methodical in my exercise.
• 46:27
  SPEAKER_00: So I would focus on my movement, I would make sure I knew which muscles were firing and stuff to try to be as onto it as I could.
• 46:34
  SPEAKER_00: And so I wasn't lifting like really large weights, not for me, anyways, like from what, but I was having a regular routine and my body knew the exercises.
• 46:43
  SPEAKER_00: And what I found out is when I kind of went out into the real world, thinking, well, I'm not really doing anything.
• 46:48
  SPEAKER_00: It's not like I'm benching 300 or anything like that, like you know.
• 46:51
  SPEAKER_00: But when I went out and I would do like uh, because I did roofing for a little bit, well, I would carry three bundles up my shoulder going up.
• 46:58
  SPEAKER_00: A bundle weighs from 50 to 75 pounds, and I would routinely go up and down the ladder.
• 47:03
  SPEAKER_00: That's why I'm carrying anywhere from 150 to over 200 pounds with me up the ladder.
• 47:08
  SPEAKER_00: And I didn't think because I wasn't working out to lift those kinds of weights.
• 47:11
  SPEAKER_00: I just, my body trusted me.
• 47:13
  SPEAKER_00: It understood what it could do because I showed it what it could do, you know, and I made sure everything was mapped properly in the brain.
• 47:21
  SPEAKER_00: So my brain gave me the resources to do it.
• 47:23
  SPEAKER_00: That's why knowing yourself and really understanding your connection between your conscious mind and your subconscious mind, because your subconscious mind is your resource manager.
• 47:31
  SPEAKER_00: It won't let you do things that think you can't do, which is why, like, if you don't exercise for a while, your body goes, Well, we probably don't want to do this, we're not prioritizing it.
• 47:38
  SPEAKER_00: And then you start doing it again.
• 47:40
  SPEAKER_00: It's like, well, can we do this?
• 47:41
  SPEAKER_00: And that's why you get like you might get you might be short of breath faster than normal because your body's over-exaggerating its behavior.
• 47:47
  SPEAKER_00: That's why you get your second win because your body's like, Can we do this?
• 47:50
  SPEAKER_00: Can we do this?
• 47:50
  SPEAKER_00: Can we do this?
• 47:51
  SPEAKER_00: And then after you're doing it for a bit, it goes, Oh, we can.
• 47:54
  SPEAKER_00: And then so it gets rid of that tension and does all that stuff, and then it starts giving you the resources and goes, Okay, keep going.
• 47:59
  SPEAKER_00: We're good.
• 48:00
  SPEAKER_00: We now remember we can do this and we're we're fine.
• 48:03
  SPEAKER_01: I think that's so good to know.
• 48:05
  SPEAKER_01: That that's super helpful because you know, I think in the moment you can kind of misinterpret that as like stress and like, oh my god, my body's not okay.
• 48:15
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 48:15
  SPEAKER_00: And it's just your body going, is your body because your body can only communicate with you emotionally.
• 48:21
  SPEAKER_00: It it doesn't like, you know, it doesn't say, you know, Aristotle said it best when he said this, ah, but Socrates counters and says this.
• 48:27
  SPEAKER_00: That's not your conversation with your body or your subconscious, your it's emotion.
• 48:32
  SPEAKER_00: So you have to do when you want to do something, you go in with conviction and your body goes, Oh, I guess we can do this because our conscious mind is completely convinced we can do this, so we must be able to do it.
• 48:43
  SPEAKER_00: You know?
• 48:44
  SPEAKER_00: And if you're and if it's so different from what you're used to doing, right, then your subconscious goes, Are you sure you want to do this?
• 48:52
  SPEAKER_00: And it'll hamper you every step of the way until it sees you can do it.
• 48:56
  SPEAKER_00: So you don't have to kill yourself in the gym.
• 48:57
  SPEAKER_00: You just have to be very thorough and you have to be very aware of what you're doing so that you can let your subconscious map what it needs to do and how to divvy up the resources.
• 49:06
  SPEAKER_00: That's really the big secret, I think, of most things is let your subconscious mind adapt to it.
• 49:10
  SPEAKER_00: So if you have to start slow, start slow.
• 49:12
  SPEAKER_00: Because once you start slow, once you get to where you need to go, you're gonna take off.
• 49:17
  SPEAKER_00: And you'll pass the people who were trying too hard in the beginning.
• 49:20
  SPEAKER_00: So you don't have to worry about that.
• 49:22
  SPEAKER_00: You don't have to worry about seeming like you're no good because you went too slow.
• 49:26
  SPEAKER_00: Because you're doing the right thing.
• 49:27
  SPEAKER_00: You're letting your subconscious mind learn what it needs to learn, and you're letting it adjust to what needs to be done, and then you'll find your improvement and you'll find your ability to do things a lot better.
• 49:38
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I totally agree.
• 49:40
  SPEAKER_01: I that definitely tracks.
• 49:43
  SPEAKER_01: And um, I my back was hurting me a couple weeks ago, and I was like, old old me would have been like, Well, we're definitely not doing exercise.
• 49:53
  SPEAKER_01: But I was like, you know what?
• 49:55
  SPEAKER_01: What if I just showed up on my mat in my house and I said, I'm going to be here to do exercise.
• 50:04
  SPEAKER_01: And even if I do it ridiculously simplified and barely anything at all, I still showed up to exercise.
• 50:11
  SPEAKER_01: And it's more about making that promise to myself to do it and to get there.
• 50:17
  SPEAKER_01: So I got on the mat and I I did what I could do to the best of my ability and I cut it short because I was like, you know what?
• 50:25
  SPEAKER_01: I want to push it.
• 50:26
  SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna go put ice on my back and I'm gonna call it done.
• 50:30
  SPEAKER_01: And that was great.
• 50:31
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm glad you said that because this is the most important part, right?
• 50:35
  SPEAKER_00: Because if you overstrap, your body's gonna do, it's gonna be mad at it, it's gonna be like, why are we doing this?
• 50:40
  SPEAKER_00: Every time we do this, we get hurt.
• 50:42
  SPEAKER_00: So your workout shouldn't be killing you.
• 50:45
  SPEAKER_00: It shouldn't be making you regret that you worked out.
• 50:47
  SPEAKER_00: You shouldn't be harming yourself, you know, because you want your subconscious mind to go, yeah, this is the good thing for us, not that every time we do this, we're in pain.
• 50:57
  SPEAKER_00: Like it's one thing to be for your muscles to be sore because you worked.
• 51:00
  SPEAKER_00: That's one thing.
• 51:01
  SPEAKER_00: But to actually be in pain, like you might have made a minor tear and didn't realize it, or you might have put too much of a strain on something, that's where you know your subconscious goes, okay, we're not doing this, this is not helping us, and then right, eventually you'll drop your workout because you're doing too much effort in the beginning, you're working too hard, you're putting too much of a stress, you're not letting yourself adapt to the situation.
• 51:21
  SPEAKER_00: But if you let yourself adapt, then your body's gonna want to work out.
• 51:24
  SPEAKER_00: That's a big thing in my life, actually.
• 51:25
  SPEAKER_00: I've been searching for for a long time.
• 51:27
  SPEAKER_00: It's like the why is it certain things are so hard to do?
• 51:30
  SPEAKER_00: Like, you know, like I said, today I went 24 hours because I didn't even think about it.
• 51:33
  SPEAKER_00: But if I had said to myself, I want to fast for 24 hours, every hour or every five minutes, I'd be looking at my watch, I'd be like going, Oh, can I eat yet?
• 51:40
  SPEAKER_00: Oh my god, there's 10 hours left, you know.
• 51:42
  SPEAKER_00: But because I didn't pay attention, it was so easy.
• 51:44
  SPEAKER_00: The resources were being given to me, I was doing what I need to do.
• 51:47
  SPEAKER_00: And it makes a difference when you're forcing yourself, and you because you don't feel you can do it, your subconscious goes, Maybe you're right, maybe you can't do it.
• 51:56
  SPEAKER_00: Usually you can, but because you keep telling your subconscious that you can't, your subconscious just eventually goes, Okay, you know what?
• 52:02
  SPEAKER_00: Screw it, I'm gonna fight you on this, you're gonna go get something to eat because I'm tired of this feeling like we don't know what we're doing.
• 52:08
  SPEAKER_00: So we're just gonna do the thing that we need to do.
• 52:11
  SPEAKER_00: Because it's never wrong for us to eat.
• 52:12
  SPEAKER_00: It's just nutrition.
• 52:13
  SPEAKER_00: We'll put some fat on, it's fine, we'll use it later.
• 52:16
  SPEAKER_00: You know?
• 52:17
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 52:18
  SPEAKER_00: Your subconscious doesn't care about modern sensibilities, so no, not at all.
• 52:22
  SPEAKER_01: Survival at all costs, right?
• 52:25
  SPEAKER_01: I I love this.
• 52:27
  SPEAKER_01: I love that we've brought this conversation of being true to ourselves, um, becoming who we truly are, and taking it to such a practical place of, you know, nutrition, exercise, you know, managing a human body and taking care of it.
• 52:50
  SPEAKER_01: Um, because I think what gets to be exciting about that is the spiritual journey that you get to be on because the vessel that your spirit is existing within can handle it, can can go with you, can allow you to take that journey.
• 53:10
  SPEAKER_00: So you might as well build your body to the best vessel for your essence.
• 53:13
  SPEAKER_00: I used as a term at one point.
• 53:15
  SPEAKER_00: That was my original coaching pitch was the to help you build your best vessel for your essence.
• 53:21
  SPEAKER_01: I love that.
• 53:22
  SPEAKER_01: I think that's fantastic.
• 53:25
  SPEAKER_00: So that's what, yeah.
• 53:26
  SPEAKER_00: So I because I wasn't expecting to talk about nutrition this whole episode.
• 53:28
  SPEAKER_00: I already go deep and into you know loving yourself and stuff.
• 53:31
  SPEAKER_00: But this is actually about loving yourself.
• 53:33
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, because this is how it is with my podcast, too.
• 53:35
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, we start talking about something and it's boy, we really drifted.
• 53:38
  SPEAKER_00: And then it's like, no, hold on, actually.
• 53:40
  SPEAKER_00: This is totally in line with what we wanted to talk about.
• 53:43
  SPEAKER_00: It's just another way of looking at it, and it's probably what someone needed to hear.
• 53:47
  SPEAKER_01: I I think it's very practical strategies for when you hear somebody say this concept of loving yourself, you you we hear about well-being, we hear about self-care.
• 53:59
  SPEAKER_01: The way that we nourish ourselves, the way that we move our bodies every day, the way we talk to ourselves in our heads, the promises we make to ourselves that we keep.
• 54:11
  SPEAKER_01: You know, many of us will not break a promise to somebody else, but we may break promises to ourselves over and over.
• 54:18
  SPEAKER_01: So I think these are the small daily movements and moments that are about being in alignment with loving yourself.
• 54:29
  SPEAKER_01: It's putting that love into action.
• 54:31
  SPEAKER_01: It's like, you know, if you ever had somebody in your life, you know, let's make it very like, you know, uh an ex from your, you know, 20s who was very immature.
• 54:45
  SPEAKER_01: And they they would tell you that they loved you till they were blue in the face, and they would buy you nice things and tell you, but they actually treated you like garbage.
• 54:56
  SPEAKER_01: And like they would ignore you, they wouldn't respond to you.
• 54:59
  SPEAKER_01: You know, we don't want to treat ourselves like that.
• 55:02
  SPEAKER_01: We don't want to to be like, I love you, and then be like, and also here's some potato chips, or you know, uh, we're not gonna, we're not gonna keep up with that workout that actually is really good for your cardiovascular system, or you know, I love you, but uh, I'm gonna, I'm gonna go through all of the things that you did wrong today and I'm gonna play them over and over and over on a loop.
• 55:25
  SPEAKER_00: You know, like I said, it makes a wild difference, right?
• 55:28
  SPEAKER_00: Because when you come in from the perspective of loving yourself, then all your resources are released because your subconscious goes, well, we must be doing this because it really matters, because we're doing this out of love for ourselves.
• 55:39
  SPEAKER_00: So, you know what?
• 55:40
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, release those resources.
• 55:42
  SPEAKER_00: Don't get in the way of achieving the goal because you're you're loving yourself.
• 55:47
  SPEAKER_00: And by virtue of loving yourself, you're going to be true to yourself.
• 55:50
  SPEAKER_00: And that's what your subconscious is looking for.
• 55:52
  SPEAKER_00: Is this true to what we need to do?
• 55:53
  SPEAKER_00: Because your subconscious, right, also has uh, I like using it this way, right?
• 55:59
  SPEAKER_00: It it also has the uh ambition, the uh what your ancestors wanted you to do, like you know, how you evolved.
• 56:07
  SPEAKER_00: I like saying your ancestors because it sounds fun or better, but we're better.
• 56:10
  SPEAKER_00: That's some of Frenchman.
• 56:12
  SPEAKER_00: But so yeah, so your subconscious looking at, well, what did we do?
• 56:15
  SPEAKER_00: How do we build this body?
• 56:16
  SPEAKER_00: What does this body do?
• 56:18
  SPEAKER_00: And but not just that, right?
• 56:20
  SPEAKER_00: Because we're still in the world is always changing and you always have to learn to adapt.
• 56:23
  SPEAKER_00: So your subconscious is always ready to take new instructions from your conscious mind.
• 56:27
  SPEAKER_00: But your conscious mind has to be serious and has to have conviction and it has to be able to communicate with that conviction and that emotion to the subconscious that this is what we're doing.
• 56:35
  SPEAKER_00: If you're just doing it to please someone else, it's gonna be hard.
• 56:39
  SPEAKER_00: And you're gonna wear yourself down and you're gonna have all the cortisol and you're gonna have all the stresses and you're gonna hurt yourself in the long run.
• 56:44
  SPEAKER_00: So and probably just to throw this in if you can't love yourself, how do you love someone else?
• 56:52
  SPEAKER_00: Because eventually you're just gonna tell them what they want to hear and not actually what you want to tell them and make them feel really loved.
• 56:58
  SPEAKER_01: I I think that's huge.
• 57:00
  SPEAKER_01: And it makes me also if we want to take it to another level of and it probably is gonna hit that woo limit for some people, and that's fine.
• 57:10
  SPEAKER_01: But the idea of unity consciousness that we're all from a collective consciousness.
• 57:17
  SPEAKER_01: So loving ourselves is loving everyone else.
• 57:22
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 57:22
  SPEAKER_00: Well, and it is right, it's the honoring the food you eat, it's the honoring your own what your ancestors did, and it's honoring the people around you because like I said, right?
• 57:31
  SPEAKER_00: If you're getting wisdom and stuff like that for what's coming, then if you do your part, that's your also your contribution to the community.
• 57:39
  SPEAKER_00: To the greater so your love of yourself is also reflects into your love of other people.
• 57:44
  SPEAKER_00: That's what it becomes in the greater world.
• 57:48
  SPEAKER_00: So and loving yourself, right?
• 57:51
  SPEAKER_00: I'm trying to remember if we did discuss it last time, but I know I've discussed this with people before.
• 57:57
  SPEAKER_00: You don't need a blueprint on what you need to do.
• 58:01
  SPEAKER_00: You don't need to know, oh, the yucas are coming, therefore I need to look through these all these ancient texts to figure out what I need to do.
• 58:06
  SPEAKER_00: No, you don't.
• 58:07
  SPEAKER_00: It's already built into the universe to give you the wisdom when this time comes.
• 58:11
  SPEAKER_00: That's why you have to be loving yourself so that you can embrace that and bring that wisdom into yourself.
• 58:16
  SPEAKER_00: And like I said, magic.
• 58:18
  SPEAKER_00: I'm a wizard, so magic is part of the thing of it.
• 58:21
  SPEAKER_00: Just remember magic is not what everyone thinks it is.
• 58:23
  SPEAKER_00: You're not sitting here throwing lightning bolts and stuff like that, but you are having an effect on how things flow, how the energy moves through the world.
• 58:31
  SPEAKER_00: You know, you're protecting people from other people's bad energy intentions and stuff like that.
• 58:36
  SPEAKER_00: Or, you know, or and I'm gonna put out there because magic is just a tool, it's neither good nor bad.
• 58:41
  SPEAKER_00: So you're also conversely, if you have ill intent, you can use it as well.
• 58:45
  SPEAKER_00: So but it's easy to do magic when you love yourself because you're that's when you're the most open to everything you need to use, and when you have your most energy flowing the best.
• 58:55
  SPEAKER_00: And usually when you love yourself, it's hard to not love other people.
• 58:59
  SPEAKER_01: It's so true, it's so true.
• 59:02
  SPEAKER_01: It becomes like uh like an easy flex, you know, to flex into the the consciousness of of love.
• 59:11
  SPEAKER_01: So if you're you're struggling with compassion with other people, you might need to just practice more self-compassion.
• 59:18
  SPEAKER_01: You know, I know when I've really struggled with my own perfectionism, you start to project that onto other people and you're like, oh, I saw their mistake, oh, I saw their mistake, oh, it's not really about them, it's about me.
• 59:31
  SPEAKER_01: I need to be more kind to myself first.
• 59:37
  SPEAKER_01: Um I think for a lot of people, probably I'm I'm a Gen Xer, same as you, right?
• 59:45
  SPEAKER_01: For Gen Xers.
• 59:46
  SPEAKER_01: So, like probably our generation really grew up with that, like, you know, you put everybody else before you yourself.
• 59:55
  SPEAKER_01: Like that was just a very Gen X thing.
• 59:57
  SPEAKER_00: Be not heard and yeah, learning things for yourself and all of that.
• 1:00:02
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and so we're all uh figuring that out now, which is good.
• 1:00:06
  SPEAKER_01: We're figuring out that that's that was just a conditioning that was placed on us, and it's okay for us to be seen, to be heard, and especially to put ourselves first because we put our own oxygen masks on, and suddenly we're capable of taking care of other people and and flourishing ourselves.
• 1:00:28
  SPEAKER_01: And um, we can go on and on with the metaphors.
• 1:00:31
  SPEAKER_01: My favorite one is uh filling from the cup that's overflowing.
• 1:00:35
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, but your cup is always overflowing and people come and tap in and take a little from you, you never feel the loss.
• 1:00:42
  SPEAKER_01: You only feel like you're able to give.
• 1:00:45
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and that taps into the next thing I was gonna say because when you're fighting yourself, you're wasting a lot of energy.
• 1:00:52
  SPEAKER_00: And so it's hard to then help other people.
• 1:00:54
  SPEAKER_00: So when other people are doing something wrong, you're thinking, oh, this is another problem I'm gonna have to solve, and you get angry.
• 1:00:59
  SPEAKER_00: But when you're in tune and you're letting your own energy flow, you have extra.
• 1:01:03
  SPEAKER_00: And then you're actually even inspired to help other people because you're like, I got extra, you know what?
• 1:01:07
  SPEAKER_00: And I know I'm not gonna be suffering for this, so I'm gonna help you out, and then you're gonna build your energy, and then you're gonna go help someone else.
• 1:01:14
  SPEAKER_00: So that's what I mean.
• 1:01:15
  SPEAKER_00: Like even right now, everyone is kind of being asked to go into themselves, not in a selfish way, but to learn about themselves because that's gonna be where you're gonna be able to help others when the time comes.
• 1:01:28
  SPEAKER_00: Because, and even the people who aren't in the whole woo and the mystical side, because it's gonna work the same for them too.
• 1:01:34
  SPEAKER_00: Just because you don't know about the mystical part and the spiritual part of you doesn't mean that taking care of yourself is not gonna let you be there.
• 1:01:41
  SPEAKER_00: Because, like I said last time, you have a spiritual immune system, which still puts you into the game.
• 1:01:45
  SPEAKER_01: So absolutely.
• 1:01:47
  SPEAKER_01: It's it's amazing, and I'm so excited about it.
• 1:01:51
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, I'm excited that the idea of really becoming who we truly are, because one of the best ways to love yourself is to allow yourself to exist as you are, you know.
• 1:02:05
  SPEAKER_01: Um, be the mystic nerd you are, if you will, be the wizard that you are, if you will.
• 1:02:12
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and I'm excited.
• 1:02:15
  SPEAKER_01: What I get most excited about is the idea of discovering who people are in their most unique nature and meeting them.
• 1:02:25
  SPEAKER_01: And um and I'm thinking like new people you haven't met, but like people that you know who suddenly feel safe to be their own selves and exist in that way, and you see it happening.
• 1:02:39
  SPEAKER_01: Um I I tend to find a lot of very cool, positive people on social media when I happen to go on.
• 1:02:46
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and uh you're finding people who are so comfortable in their own skin.
• 1:02:53
  SPEAKER_01: It makes you feel like, man, I want to be that person too.
• 1:02:57
  SPEAKER_01: That I want to be able to go out there and just be who I am and just like have other people get excited because I'm expressing myself in a very unique way.
• 1:03:09
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:03:10
  SPEAKER_00: And you know, it's interesting, and I'll share this.
• 1:03:12
  SPEAKER_00: Like, so I have a couple of nephews, I have more than a couple of nephews, but these two in particular, like they're in the you know, it's your ear early 20s, and you know, everything's harder than it needs to be because you're making it harder than you need to be.
• 1:03:24
  SPEAKER_00: But one thing they don't really recognize about themselves, but they'll do it, is they're fantastic singers.
• 1:03:30
  SPEAKER_00: But they don't put like like awesome, like and deep, like you know, that deep bear tone there where and you know, and like I'll sing with them, and I'm like, like I I'm not the worst person in the world, but I almost feel ashamed to sing with them because it's like I'm just taking you guys down, but they love singing with me, so we'll do like because we do karaoke stuff sometimes in my family, like we're trying to figure out stuff to do because none of us really drink anymore, so other than like one or two drinks, and then that's it.
• 1:03:53
  SPEAKER_00: So we fill it and we'll start doing it.
• 1:03:55
  SPEAKER_00: And like all my nephews though love singing, you know.
• 1:03:58
  SPEAKER_00: Actually, my niece does too, but she kind of more shy.
• 1:04:01
  SPEAKER_00: But uh, but her two these are her two brothers, true.
• 1:04:04
  SPEAKER_00: Well, she has three brothers, but there's two of them, but they're amazing.
• 1:04:07
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I listen to them singing, I'm like, how are you guys not like pursuing this?
• 1:04:11
  SPEAKER_00: Like, you guys are like awesome.
• 1:04:13
  SPEAKER_00: But then Rose like, oh no, it's like, no, no, you guys are amazing at this.
• 1:04:19
  SPEAKER_00: Like it's beautiful.
• 1:04:20
  SPEAKER_00: It's like I watch, I'm like, oh my god, like I wish I could sing like you guys.
• 1:04:25
  SPEAKER_00: I know trying to keep up with it, yeah.
• 1:04:28
  SPEAKER_01: I love that, and I think it's that's such a nice gift to give people too, the true like honoring seeing them for who they are and honoring their unique nature and what they have to offer the world.
• 1:04:43
  SPEAKER_01: Um in the sense of like your own existing in your genius, and that doesn't mean like genius like Einstein genius, but like the thing that you do so naturally with so much.
• 1:04:55
  SPEAKER_01: But that's the right word.
• 1:04:56
  SPEAKER_00: Genius is yeah, genius is the right word for that.
• 1:04:59
  SPEAKER_00: You know, it is the because a genius doesn't mean you have a 600 IQ, it means you're really good at what you're doing, even though we've kind of popularly kind of relegated it to oh, you have a high IQ.
• 1:05:09
  SPEAKER_00: But usually your all your resources are guaranteed, are not guaranteed, they're directed at being really good at something.
• 1:05:16
  SPEAKER_00: And so that's your genius.
• 1:05:18
  SPEAKER_00: Like you don't have to be able to, you know, calculate pi of like your credit card, of the number of your credit card to be a genius.
• 1:05:25
  SPEAKER_00: You just need to be really good at what you do.
• 1:05:27
  SPEAKER_00: You see it with athletes, you know, elite-level athletes are geniuses in their athleticism, even if I don't know how many of them have degrees and stuff, but like you don't have to have a great academic achievement, you can just literally be good at something, really good at something.
• 1:05:40
  SPEAKER_00: So, yeah, genius, and that comes from right, I think it's the Greeks, where you don't give credit to yourself, but you have like a genius lives in your wall.
• 1:05:48
  SPEAKER_00: It's like a spirit that helps you kind of like the muses, you know, that idea that actually inspires you and gives you all this wisdom to do the thing you do.
• 1:05:57
  SPEAKER_00: And there's enough stories about that, and we all when you're tuned to it, you do actually see when spirits are communicating with you, but you know, so that idea is like when you're really good at something, it's because you have a genius, which is literally a spirit that tells you how to do this thing very well.
• 1:06:11
  SPEAKER_01: Hmm.
• 1:06:12
  SPEAKER_01: I love that.
• 1:06:13
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe it's just you, it's your higher self.
• 1:06:16
  SPEAKER_00: Well, and that's the thing, right?
• 1:06:17
  SPEAKER_00: Because I always say like this, right?
• 1:06:19
  SPEAKER_00: Like when you look in popular culture, there's always like these ideas of the chosen one.
• 1:06:24
  SPEAKER_00: And then, but the chosen one goes to this moment of, well, this isn't me.
• 1:06:28
  SPEAKER_00: It's like, no, this is exactly you.
• 1:06:29
  SPEAKER_00: That's why you're the chosen one, because this is exactly who you are.
• 1:06:32
  SPEAKER_00: And that's usually something they figure out usually by the end of the story, but there's always that big thing.
• 1:06:36
  SPEAKER_00: And then when you see people talk about popular culture, they always have this bad idea of the chosen one character, that uh stereo that's that archetype.
• 1:06:44
  SPEAKER_00: It's like, well, no, the chosen one is literally designed for this, it's their fate because it's literally them.
• 1:06:51
  SPEAKER_00: It's not like some choice everyone else made for them, it's literally who they are, and this is just a natural outcropping of or the natural conclusion to who they are to do those things.
• 1:07:00
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, so play along with me, and I will answer the same question.
• 1:07:04
  SPEAKER_01: So, what do you know is your genius in this lifetime?
• 1:07:13
  SPEAKER_00: Mine is listening to people.
• 1:07:15
  SPEAKER_00: And like getting to who they are.
• 1:07:19
  SPEAKER_00: And it's I've because I've always done it.
• 1:07:20
  SPEAKER_00: It was just it's always been my instinct.
• 1:07:22
  SPEAKER_00: I used to think it was art, because I do I made these symbols as well, but uh these are totally fabricated by me to help with meditation and stuff like that.
• 1:07:30
  SPEAKER_00: Kind of the magic system I made up for teaching people to help them get into doing magic.
• 1:07:36
  SPEAKER_00: But I've always and I never realized it at first, but I always listened, like and I and I got to the point where I can listen to people's breathing and find out, oh, I can tell by your breathing you're feeling this way, I can tell by the breathing you have this health issue.
• 1:07:47
  SPEAKER_00: If I know about the health issue, right?
• 1:07:49
  SPEAKER_00: Not if I'm not a doctor, but if I know about it and I know how it affects your breathing, then I can usually pick those things out.
• 1:07:54
  SPEAKER_00: But you know, emotions and stuff like that through listening.
• 1:07:56
  SPEAKER_00: And I would even tell people on the phone what position.
• 1:07:58
  SPEAKER_00: They were sitting in or where they were in the house and stuff like that for a while.
• 1:08:01
  SPEAKER_00: And they're like, oh my God, I'm like, and I would jokingly say, I'm watching you, but it's no, I was just listening to them.
• 1:08:06
  SPEAKER_00: But I then I use it because to try to understand the person and then giving them more insights because there's things they're not paying attention to, because I'm hearing it in their breathing.
• 1:08:16
  SPEAKER_00: You know, I'm hearing what their diaphragm is, I'm hearing if they're having nervousness or they're constricting their diaphragm or you know, stuff like that.
• 1:08:23
  SPEAKER_00: And so I used it to then understand people and if they have pain or if they're not in pain.
• 1:08:29
  SPEAKER_00: And and then I usually end up getting the line of, oh, you know me better than your best friend.
• 1:08:33
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, it's Tuesday.
• 1:08:34
  SPEAKER_00: That's a Tuesday for me to know you better than your best friend.
• 1:08:37
  SPEAKER_00: Because I listen.
• 1:08:39
  SPEAKER_01: Because you listen.
• 1:08:40
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I love that.
• 1:08:42
  SPEAKER_01: I really have come to realize that my gift is being able to see people as they are, like through to their core, who they are, what they're about, and and genuinely see their sparkle and see what makes them shine.
• 1:09:06
  SPEAKER_01: And it makes it super fun to do a podcast and to talk to people because I'm legitimately lit up and excited to talk to the people that I have on the podcast.
• 1:09:16
  SPEAKER_01: But it's great.
• 1:09:17
  SPEAKER_01: I work with kids and being able to see kids and find the thing that really makes them sparkle, the thing they love, even if they can't tell me, they can't use their words to tell me, I can figure it out and I can really find them in there and really feel like I can make a connection with them.
• 1:09:35
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and they're not filtered yet as much.
• 1:09:37
  SPEAKER_00: So you get to see their genius, you know, raw without the filters yet on, without the years of being beaten down and the years of trying to hide who they are.
• 1:09:48
  SPEAKER_00: Some kids it starts early, but not all kids.
• 1:09:50
  SPEAKER_00: Well, kids they're still don't have that, they don't have that capacity yet to put up the walls and stuff like that.
• 1:09:54
  SPEAKER_00: So it's awesome to see at that age too.
• 1:09:57
  SPEAKER_00: Like, you know, when people ask me, oh, I'm having a problem with my kid, what do you think I should do?
• 1:10:00
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, listen to your kid, first of all, like pay attention to what they're doing because they're gonna tell you what they like, they're gonna tell you, you know, what they need.
• 1:10:07
  SPEAKER_00: You just have to take your own, you take, take out your own hate or your dislike of your childhood, put that aside.
• 1:10:15
  SPEAKER_00: And just look at your child's childhood and see what they want.
• 1:10:19
  SPEAKER_00: Because they'll tell it to you it's raw, it's right there, they're not filtered.
• 1:10:22
  SPEAKER_00: You'll know everything they need by paying attention to them.
• 1:10:26
  SPEAKER_00: You might have to look a little bit deeper because sometimes you don't understand what they're talking about and they don't know how to express in words yet.
• 1:10:31
  unknown: Right.
• 1:10:32
  SPEAKER_00: But watch them, see what they do, see what they gravitate to, you know, see what stories they tell you.
• 1:10:38
  SPEAKER_00: Because kids will make up stories even if it doesn't make sense to you, they'll still make them up, and that'll that's all very revealing to you.
• 1:10:45
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I can see that.
• 1:10:46
  SPEAKER_01: I can see that that is definitely a a skill for you.
• 1:10:51
  SPEAKER_01: Because a lot of what you're saying is things that you would hear, a story, a tale, history, you know.
• 1:10:58
  SPEAKER_01: Um I love that.
• 1:11:00
  SPEAKER_01: I love that, and I think it's such a fun thing to spend the time to uncover what your what your gift is in the world.
• 1:11:10
  SPEAKER_01: And then you get to choose how you want to use it.
• 1:11:12
  SPEAKER_01: You get to express it in the way that works for you, whether it's to get on a podcast and talk to people, to coach, to you know, whatever it is.
• 1:11:22
  SPEAKER_00: And I'll offer it to you because like so.
• 1:11:25
  SPEAKER_00: Last time I was on, I told Kelly, but it was my last this what that was my last official work with a dragon that I was working with.
• 1:11:34
  SPEAKER_00: Now there's no real particular spirit involved in this particular episode, but one of your gifts, I would argue, is you open the channels because like there's been a flow, like even the last episode, right?
• 1:11:44
  SPEAKER_00: I was kind of cutting you off and I was just talking and talking, and you know, now it's a little bit better because I'm being more conscious of it.
• 1:11:51
  SPEAKER_00: But there's still a powerful flow.
• 1:11:53
  SPEAKER_00: You still open up the gates, you still make a flow happen.
• 1:11:55
  SPEAKER_00: You still have this way of letting the flow come through or facilitating it.
• 1:11:59
  SPEAKER_00: So that's another one of your gifts in case you didn't realize you had that.
• 1:12:03
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
• 1:12:04
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, I that is my other the the channel.
• 1:12:08
  SPEAKER_01: I have if you know, for those of you who are listening who uh are geeks about human design, I have uh an open head and ajna.
• 1:12:18
  SPEAKER_01: So those are two centers here.
• 1:12:20
  SPEAKER_01: If you think about the the body graph, down in the third eye.
• 1:12:24
  SPEAKER_01: This is all open, like no no definition, no gates, nothing.
• 1:12:29
  SPEAKER_01: I have throat gates, but none of them are connected into my head.
• 1:12:34
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm literally open-minded.
• 1:12:38
  SPEAKER_01: That's a literal gift for me.
• 1:12:40
  SPEAKER_01: And because of that, I I can purely channel sometimes it's poetry, sometimes it's ideas, and sometimes it's just energetically, which is the most fun on a podcast because I bring all the energy.
• 1:12:53
  SPEAKER_01: So my guests can come and just feel comfortable in that.
• 1:12:58
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and that's what I was gonna say, because it's actually like I said, I was excited to be on the podcast because it's true, because the energy that flows in your podcast is really amazing to be part of, especially when you're attuned to energies in the first place, then you can really see how exciting it is actually to be here.
• 1:13:11
  SPEAKER_01: Aw thank you.
• 1:13:13
  SPEAKER_01: I'll take that.
• 1:13:13
  SPEAKER_01: Received, received.
• 1:13:15
  SPEAKER_01: I appreciate it.
• 1:13:16
  SPEAKER_00: It's all it's all very sincere and very true.
• 1:13:18
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 1:13:19
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
• 1:13:19
  SPEAKER_01: I believe you.
• 1:13:20
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, and on that note, I just want to take a minute to celebrate you.
• 1:13:26
  SPEAKER_01: Let us know what you have coming up and how can people work with you and connect with you?
• 1:13:32
  SPEAKER_00: All right, so the best and most obvious one is so the email for the podcast, think like a wizard at gmail.com.
• 1:13:41
  SPEAKER_00: That is now the channel I've made official for everyone.
• 1:13:44
  SPEAKER_00: There's a Reddit, a subreddit that goes with it, but the people don't really use it.
• 1:13:48
  SPEAKER_00: So I've made the email the official one.
• 1:13:50
  SPEAKER_00: And that's like, and even my co-host is like, yes, please ask questions, send things.
• 1:13:55
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I still have my Facebook, I still have a LinkedIn, or no, yeah, I do have a LinkedIn, actually.
• 1:13:59
  SPEAKER_00: I have LinkedIn now, still my name.
• 1:14:01
  SPEAKER_00: But this symbol again, like I said, in the that shows up when I come on the call.
• 1:14:06
  SPEAKER_00: The rest of you might see it.
• 1:14:08
  SPEAKER_00: It, you know, it's funny because people are just like, Oh, that's still occultish.
• 1:14:11
  SPEAKER_00: Why would you use that as a logo for your company?
• 1:14:12
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, I want it to look occultish, but what it really is is just my initials mashed up.
• 1:14:20
  SPEAKER_01: The secrets revealed.
• 1:14:21
  unknown: Yeah.
• 1:14:22
  SPEAKER_00: Well, actually, uh on the subreddit and in my podcast, the first my zero episode zero is how to do it.
• 1:14:29
  SPEAKER_00: And then when you go to the subreddit, you actually see the diagram of how I built my uh my logo.
• 1:14:36
  SPEAKER_00: But it looks magical.
• 1:14:37
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, if you're gonna do a wizard, right, you might as well get all the trappings of being a wizard, like even my background again.
• 1:14:44
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, it that's the best way.
• 1:14:47
  SPEAKER_00: And right now, like season three, which is running right now, and season four is gonna start in March because it coincides with this big shift that's happening.
• 1:14:56
  SPEAKER_00: And it's funny because we were recording the episodes, and me and my co-host were like, there's just something wrong.
• 1:15:00
  SPEAKER_00: Like, something's not right.
• 1:15:01
  SPEAKER_00: We're doing this and it's not feeling right anymore.
• 1:15:04
  SPEAKER_00: So then we did kind of we did episode eight of this of season three, and we're like, you know what?
• 1:15:08
  SPEAKER_00: This is the last episode of season three.
• 1:15:10
  SPEAKER_00: That's it.
• 1:15:11
  SPEAKER_00: We're not doing that anymore, it's done.
• 1:15:13
  SPEAKER_00: And then now for you people, right?
• 1:15:16
  SPEAKER_00: So even if you don't communicate with me, even if you don't do anything else, season four, we're gonna kind of get practical into magic and the ins and outs of how to do it.
• 1:15:26
  SPEAKER_00: And we're actually this will be an early an early thing, so you'll get uh the first actually, is that there's a spell that's gonna correspond with every episode.
• 1:15:37
  SPEAKER_00: Oh we're not gonna be doing it on the episode, but we're gonna do it right before the episode because it's hard to record.
• 1:15:43
  SPEAKER_00: But interestingly, my recording space is also now my altar.
• 1:15:48
  SPEAKER_04: Oh wow.
• 1:15:49
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:15:50
  SPEAKER_00: Like uh I'll put this on, right?
• 1:15:52
  SPEAKER_00: I know you want to wrap we'll wrap up, but like I didn't usually cast spells.
• 1:15:56
  SPEAKER_00: I was not usually my thing.
• 1:15:57
  SPEAKER_00: This was just like more of a practice for flowing of energy.
• 1:15:59
  SPEAKER_00: All these symbols have like a direction of how to do your energy.
• 1:16:03
  SPEAKER_00: But now because magic, spells and stuff like that, and rituals are the official way of asking for something from the spirit world.
• 1:16:11
  SPEAKER_00: That's the actual official way.
• 1:16:12
  SPEAKER_00: And they're and now they're asking me to show the example, be one of the people showing the example.
• 1:16:17
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not the only one.
• 1:16:18
  SPEAKER_00: This isn't hinge on my existence, but I'm part of it.
• 1:16:22
  SPEAKER_00: And it's now I have to start doing spells to show the example of it.
• 1:16:26
  SPEAKER_00: So season four is going to be about spells.
• 1:16:28
  SPEAKER_00: So for those of you who are being yourself and you're starting to receive these wisdoms and stuff that have been released, there's your kind of uh your not how to, well, sort of a how-to, but kind of here's your guidance.
• 1:16:45
  SPEAKER_00: We're gonna discuss ramifications and stuff like that, and you know, how consequences and to consider what potential consequences there are, because there are consequences.
• 1:16:53
  SPEAKER_00: Once you do a spell, there's not just, oh, I did my spell and it's done.
• 1:16:57
  SPEAKER_00: It's like, no, there's you've made a ripple.
• 1:17:00
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:17:00
  SPEAKER_00: And it's going through the universe.
• 1:17:02
  SPEAKER_00: So when you do something, consider what you're doing.
• 1:17:04
  SPEAKER_00: And asking for supernatural intervention is a big thing.
• 1:17:07
  SPEAKER_00: Like you're not seeing these supernatural interventions every two minutes in the world, right?
• 1:17:11
  SPEAKER_00: So when you ask for it, there's got there's always a ripple effect.
• 1:17:16
  SPEAKER_00: So, anyways, that's what's coming up with the podcast, and we're gonna be doing that.
• 1:17:19
  SPEAKER_00: So, season four is gonna start in March.
• 1:17:23
  SPEAKER_00: So consider it a guide, a resource, if you will.
• 1:17:27
  SPEAKER_00: There, that answers your question.
• 1:17:29
  SPEAKER_01: I no, that's perfect.
• 1:17:31
  SPEAKER_01: I love that.
• 1:17:32
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and we'll we'll put the information in the show notes so people can connect right over to your podcast.
• 1:17:39
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I thank you so much for being here, for having this conversation.
• 1:17:43
  SPEAKER_01: What's that?
• 1:17:44
  SPEAKER_00: And thanks for having me back.
• 1:17:46
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, absolutely.
• 1:17:47
  SPEAKER_01: Anytime.
• 1:17:48
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, if we want to make this like a three-month thing and you're available, go ahead and plug in that date in the future.
• 1:17:54
  SPEAKER_01: We'll just plan on it.
• 1:17:56
  SPEAKER_00: But um it's a good idea, actually.
• 1:17:58
  SPEAKER_00: Considering what's happening, it's always good for voices to to like some kind of guidance or some kind of at least an example you can look.
• 1:18:06
  SPEAKER_00: Not to aggrandize myself, but I mean like it's part of my job as a wizard.
• 1:18:10
  SPEAKER_00: So we could do something like that.
• 1:18:12
  SPEAKER_00: We'll work it out, anyways.
• 1:18:13
  SPEAKER_00: We'll figure something.
• 1:18:14
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I I think I I really I enjoy having these conversations with you and and your perspective.
• 1:18:22
  SPEAKER_01: And I really love how we took some very, you know, um, you know, out there thoughts and ideas and really made them very practical for people.
• 1:18:33
  SPEAKER_01: And it sounds like that's in alignment with what you have coming up with season four.
• 1:18:37
  SPEAKER_01: Uh think like a wizard.
• 1:18:39
  SPEAKER_01: And again, if you want to, if you're driving and you're listening to this, if you want to reach out, thinklikeawizard at gmail.com.
• 1:18:46
  SPEAKER_01: Uh Daniel, thank you so much for being with me.
• 1:18:49
  SPEAKER_01: This is fantastic.
• 1:18:50
  SPEAKER_01: I'm excited for 2025 for us.
• 1:18:52
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, me too, even though it's supposed to be difficult.
• 1:18:55
  SPEAKER_00: But it's like, yeah, no, it's the time for discovery.
• 1:18:57
  SPEAKER_00: Things are difficult because you react to it that way.
• 1:19:01
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, that's a whole other podcast, perhaps.
• 1:19:03
  SPEAKER_01: How do we how do we move through the world and minimize reactivity?
• 1:19:09
  SPEAKER_01: Um we'll leave you.
• 1:19:12
  SPEAKER_01: That's that's like uh another podcast episode coming soon in the future.
• 1:19:16
  SPEAKER_01: How we live in that way.
• 1:19:18
  SPEAKER_01: But thank you so much for being here.
• 1:19:20
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you for sharing all of your wealth of knowledge about nutrition.
• 1:19:25
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and we'll talk again soon.
• 1:19:29
  SPEAKER_00: Hopefully.
• 1:19:30
  SPEAKER_00: I look forward to it.
• 1:19:32
  SPEAKER_01: All right, everyone.
• 1:19:33
  SPEAKER_01: Have a good evening, good morning, or good afternoon, and we'll talk to you soon.
• 1:19:38
  SPEAKER_01: Bye for now.
• 1:19:39
  SPEAKER_04: Bye.