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Speaker 1: It is Monday, September six. This is Jackuars Happy Hour.
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Speaker 1: Jaquars Happy Hour is presented by Jet Home Loans and
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Speaker 1: now a guy who believes, if it's called Labor Day,
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Speaker 1: you should be laboring. J pce shad Here we are
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Speaker 1: on Labor Day, and Happy Labor Day to you. Glad
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Speaker 1: you're along with us sun this Monday afternoon. My name's J. P. Shadrick.
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Speaker 1: That was Joe Fortunato, Tony vas Sally, and Pete Brisco
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Speaker 1: coming up. We have a busy show ahead today. Week
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Speaker 1: one is here. The Jaguars face to Houston Texans coming
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Speaker 1: up Sunday at n RG Stadium. In week one of
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Speaker 1: the campaign, we'll hear from head coach Irban Meyer. He
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Speaker 1: spoke with the media today. We'll get his thoughts early
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Speaker 1: thoughts in the week. He scheduled to speak again Wednesday.
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Speaker 1: Social media questions have been coming in hot today and
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Speaker 1: we will get to a bunch of those in the
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Speaker 1: second hour of the show, and a quick look around
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Speaker 1: the National Football League as well. Pete Frisco, CBS sports
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Speaker 1: senior writer, joining us from South Florida. Tony Vaselli is
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Speaker 1: in parts unknown. Both are with us now Pete, good afternoon.
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Speaker 1: What's up? What's up? Baby? It is finally, Tony. We're
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Speaker 1: ready for regular season football. Absolutely, Hey, Pete, shot over
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Speaker 1: to you. I mean, honestly, just go in the center
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Speaker 1: if I can lay like you gonna take a nap, Tony,
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Speaker 1: why don't you screwed up a little bit so people
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Speaker 1: can see you and you're not and you're not fading
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Speaker 1: into the drapes and he's gonna disappear by the second hour.
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Speaker 1: It's Labor Day, first of all, is it Labor Day
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Speaker 1: supposed to be a day off? Who works on Labor Day?
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Speaker 1: I worked on Labor Day. I worked on Labor Day
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Speaker 1: all day. To Tony, what do you do? I'm worked?
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Speaker 1: That's my point. That's a problem as America. And here's
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Speaker 1: the other thing in in during football season, labor days
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Speaker 1: of work day the only holidays you get, you know this,
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Speaker 1: the only holidays you get in football or Memorial Day
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Speaker 1: and fourth of July. That's it. Yeah, I mean you
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Speaker 1: think about all the holidays coming up? Do we have
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Speaker 1: Labor Day? Work? Halloween not a real not a real holiday, um,
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Speaker 1: Thanksgiving working. I'll be in Detroit Veterans Day working, Veterans
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Speaker 1: Day working Christmas day, be flying to the day after
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Speaker 1: Christmas game, working day after day after Thanksgiving, a holiday
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Speaker 1: for most people working. Yeah, day after Christmas working years working.
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Speaker 1: You have me traveling on New Year's Yeah, you don't
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Speaker 1: get it. The only holidays you get it on a
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Speaker 1: world day and for the play. We're not complaining, it's
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Speaker 1: just the facts. Well, you and your favorite holiday, Valentine,
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Speaker 1: that's it. Stop. See. You know it's funny because I
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Speaker 1: can sit here and say, oh, that's my favorite holiday,
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Speaker 1: and my wife would know I was lying. She holiday either.
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Speaker 1: My wife might be the only woman in a Mary
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Speaker 1: doesn't think Bvalenti's days are good? All wow, how about that?
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Speaker 1: It's amazing? Crying over it? I don't know, it sounds
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Speaker 1: like you. How about before we get into the Jaguars
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Speaker 1: were gonna hear from Irban Meyer today? Coming up? How
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Speaker 1: about the first big college football weekend? Finally a little
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Speaker 1: something to watch? Pete, why do we even bother with
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Speaker 1: the football season in college football anymore? Seriously? Again, I disagree.
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Speaker 1: I think you're overreacting. I don't think Miami's as good
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Speaker 1: as anyone thinks they are. I don't think Miami's a
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Speaker 1: good either, but it's not. I think four or five
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Speaker 1: teams in it every year. Well Georgia, I think Georgia
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Speaker 1: competing this year the five. Yeah, Clemson might not. They're
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Speaker 1: gonna have to run the table. Now it sounds like
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Speaker 1: to get back Clemson. Let's think about it. Florida, I
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Speaker 1: mean Georgia, Clemson, Oklahoma, Ohio State in Alabama and the
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Speaker 1: rest of you just around for the show. Watch out
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Speaker 1: for USC this year, buddy, watch out for the Sun Devil.
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Speaker 1: How many times have we done this show? How many
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Speaker 1: years we've done the show? Like seven years now? Every
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Speaker 1: Labor Day show I hear the same thing, teams that
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Speaker 1: they need to cheat with. Then they're never gonna win
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Speaker 1: at all. Back in the day, USC one because they've
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Speaker 1: got guys like Tony by Pain and to go there. Goodness, wow,
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Speaker 1: what an allegation. The Pony Excess part two and unbelievable
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Speaker 1: nice trans am Tony funny. No, but I mean, you look,
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Speaker 1: you know what it is. It is what it is.
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Speaker 1: It's the same. Why I just don't understand why everybody,
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Speaker 1: Maybe you should have a limit on five star guys
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Speaker 1: you could sign. Well, maybe Nick SAME's just the best
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Speaker 1: coach and maybe everywhere else should get better. Maybe you
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Speaker 1: should ink some guys in I L deals in timp
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Speaker 1: you want all three of your quarterbacks from the last
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Speaker 1: last three ye your quarterbacks are all starting on Sunday
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Speaker 1: in the NFL. That's right, it's not. Nick Saban's a
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Speaker 1: great coach, but you gotta have players. He has all
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Speaker 1: the players. That's part of coaching in college football is
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Speaker 1: getting the players he gets recruiting. Yes, that's part of
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Speaker 1: a great coach. And you think, look, you're gonna get
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Speaker 1: me in trouble here. But you think it's just Nick
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Speaker 1: saman going into somebody's house and saying, come play for
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Speaker 1: me in Alabama. I think it's a smile of his
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Speaker 1: and he gets guys to come show up. How did
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Speaker 1: the Oregon get good Chip, Kelly nice Man, a bunch
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Speaker 1: of fast players. That's why. Look, I just I love
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Speaker 1: the college game Saturdays. I just sit there. I sat
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Speaker 1: there all day Saturday watching college football, and I thoroughly
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Speaker 1: enjoy it. But in the end, it's not right to
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Speaker 1: have four or five teams that can win it all
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Speaker 1: the rest of them can't. Well, then everyone else has
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Speaker 1: to get better. Okay, But if you get if you're
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Speaker 1: getting twenty five star players to go to Alabama and others.
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Speaker 1: Better don't figure out what they're doing and go copy
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Speaker 1: of and do the same thing. Just do it. They
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Speaker 1: have great recruiters. What do you want great recruiters feet
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Speaker 1: that's all they are. Well, get back to this conversation.
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Speaker 1: I'm sure before the evening is over. The Jaguars we're
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Speaker 1: back on the practice field today. A j Can the
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Speaker 1: right guard, was activated from the reserve COVID nineteen lists
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Speaker 1: for the Jaguars, and outside linebacker and defenseman Erin Patrick
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Speaker 1: was waived. A little bit of a different feel with
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Speaker 1: a smaller group, according to head coach Urban Meyer, but
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Speaker 1: plenty of work still to be done and some details
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Speaker 1: to be ironed out, of course, as they get ready
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Speaker 1: for this Week one game against the Houston Texas. But
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Speaker 1: Meyer said he's confident in the operation side of the
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Speaker 1: organization leading into Week one because it is different. Um,
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Speaker 1: obviously look out there and you see a much smaller roster.
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Speaker 1: You know, you're you know, we're still to signing who's
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Speaker 1: going to be an active the day of the game,
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Speaker 1: those type of things. That's a little bit of anxiety
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Speaker 1: that I have that that's all new to me. But
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Speaker 1: you know, as far as game management, I feel very
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Speaker 1: good about it. I feel very good about our coaching staff,
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Speaker 1: and most important, I feel good about the locker room,
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Speaker 1: which is maybe the most important thing in any organization.
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Speaker 1: So the team is off on Tuesday, they're back in
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Speaker 1: the practice field Wednesday. They'll play the Texan Sunday at
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Speaker 1: one o'clock at n r G Stadium in Houston, Texas.
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Speaker 1: There's some confidence there. It sounds like Pete. Well, first,
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Speaker 1: let me say, if he's having a hard time getting
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Speaker 1: used to the smaller roster, it might be because he
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Speaker 1: has more coaches on the practice field that he has
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Speaker 1: buyers writing. The staff is bigger. There's more staff members
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Speaker 1: than the players. So look, that was gonna be an
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Speaker 1: adjustment for him because in college we have a hundred
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Speaker 1: thousand players. It's going to be an adjustment for him,
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Speaker 1: and so I understand that. But this is a big
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Speaker 1: week for him because this is for real, and it's
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Speaker 1: not only that you're going on the road and then
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Speaker 1: Texans already a good team, but you're going on the
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Speaker 1: road and your quarterbacks making his first start on the road.
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Speaker 1: I think that makes it really challenging. And you know, Tony,
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Speaker 1: you go on the road in the NFL, I don't
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Speaker 1: care who you're playing, it's tough. Yeah, on the road
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Speaker 1: rookie quarterback. I mean you look at the like the
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Speaker 1: last twenty five years of starting Ricky quarterbacks kind of
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Speaker 1: first rounders, it's like four one and one in their
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Speaker 1: opening games. You stole that stat for me off Twitter. Tony,
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Speaker 1: thanks a lot. I appreciate that talk about it. I
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Speaker 1: was doing my research. Yeah, you research my Twitter accounts.
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Speaker 1: That's great. It's and one by the way, you got
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Speaker 1: it wrong. But um, and the other thing that's interesting.
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Speaker 1: I mean the good news is the Texans are no
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Speaker 1: good like here's a great like. Actually, like this would
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Speaker 1: be interesting for us to do. How many Houston Texans
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Speaker 1: can you actually name one thing? Though, Tony? They do
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Speaker 1: have a lot of veterans that they signed, the guys
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Speaker 1: that have played a lot of football. I know, but
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Speaker 1: it's it's a new show on Monday Night. Now, what
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Speaker 1: gives him make some dangerous to Tyrod Taylor? Because he
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Speaker 1: could beat you with his feet, he could run around
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Speaker 1: make plays. I mean, he's one of those unconvinced, more
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Speaker 1: unconventional quarterbacks that it might not always look pretty, but
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Speaker 1: you better get him on the ground because he can
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Speaker 1: make things happen every running back in the league. We'll
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Speaker 1: talk about the Texas more later, but back to the Jaguars.
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Speaker 1: This is a huge week because this is I mean,
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Speaker 1: if you look at the first four games, you got
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Speaker 1: the Bengals, I mean, you got the Texans, you got
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Speaker 1: the Broncos, you have the Cardinals, and you're the Bengals.
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Speaker 1: This is the most winnable game on your whole schedule.
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Speaker 1: This is the next time you play the Texas. I mean,
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Speaker 1: they are by far, the argue, the worst team in
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Speaker 1: the NFL. It's so and I think there's so much
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Speaker 1: hype from the fan base and from everybody else coming
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Speaker 1: into this game. And I think if you ask the
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Speaker 1: average fan and the average person in Jacksonville, even the
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Speaker 1: average media person, the jag should beat the Texans. They're
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Speaker 1: better than the Texans. And so if you go up
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Speaker 1: there and don't win, and you start off now said
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Speaker 1: your own one, you had a good Bronco team come
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Speaker 1: to town with a really good defense, you know, this
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Speaker 1: is the this is what can happen in the NFL.
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Speaker 1: This is why it's so hard, you get on the
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Speaker 1: wrong side of it, starts going the wrong way. Um.
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Speaker 1: So I think it's a huge I think it's a
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Speaker 1: huge opening weekend. Now, I think Jaguars is a better
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Speaker 1: team and the better quarterback. Um. I don't know much
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Speaker 1: about David called it the coach of the Texans, but
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Speaker 1: I mean just from track record, you would say Erban
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Speaker 1: Myers a better coach. Um. I think this is one
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Speaker 1: of the few weekends that the Jackson Jaguars will have
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Speaker 1: a more talented roster in the team they're playing. And
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Speaker 1: so you need to win the games you're supposed to win.
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Speaker 1: Um ho ho ho. They got a better core it back. Okay,
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Speaker 1: I think they have a better offensive line, better running left.
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Speaker 1: You have position by position, left packles better in US. Okay,
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Speaker 1: left guard better. Okay, left guard is better than Jacksonville.
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Speaker 1: The center is better than Jacksonville, the right guards better
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Speaker 1: than Jacksonville, and the right tackle in Houston has been
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Speaker 1: a revolving door for the last twenty years. And I
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Speaker 1: think Joan Taylor, we have better running back, better quarterback,
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Speaker 1: better receivers. Is there better receivers. Brandon Cooks is one
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Speaker 1: of the receivers. He's not better than anybody Jackson What
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Speaker 1: Brandon cooks is better than the jack where any jackwear receiver?
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Speaker 1: Right now? Okay, it's a wash. It's Chris Conley is
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Speaker 1: over there now, right, Chris Conley is over there. Okay,
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Speaker 1: that's gonna the other side of the ball. They don't
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Speaker 1: have a lot of town. Jacksonville isn't never thought of
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Speaker 1: down right now on that side of the ball. All right,
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Speaker 1: take the defensive line over the Texas defensive line. I'm
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Speaker 1: just saying, Okay, my point is, Pete, how often is
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Speaker 1: it going to be even debatable that the Jaguars have
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Speaker 1: a better roster or not this year? Well, this will
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Speaker 1: be one of the games you could debate it. Yes,
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Speaker 1: but my people, okay, so they need to go win
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Speaker 1: this game. I mean this used to text or a
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Speaker 1: franchise that are disarrayed. They have a Francise quarterback. They're
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Speaker 1: spending thirty million dollars and for the life of me,
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Speaker 1: I don't know why they're not playing him. He's not
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Speaker 1: on the commissioner's list. Why wouln't you try to go plan?
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Speaker 1: And what's the football game? It doesn't matter at this point.
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Speaker 1: But they got former Jaguar intern slash whatever the hell
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Speaker 1: he did in the building. Jack Easter be running things.
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Speaker 1: But you know, people, why would you play him? I mean,
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Speaker 1: but why would you play him? Why wouldn't you play
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Speaker 1: with Deshaun Watson? Right now? They're afraid that a couple.
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Speaker 1: They're afraid if he gets hurt, then you're not gonna
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Speaker 1: get any for him. Might play him? I mean anyways, Um,
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Speaker 1: so it's a long story short. It's a huge weekend
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Speaker 1: opening And here's the other things. You know, I have
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Speaker 1: talked about this every year Opening Day. Weird stuff happens.
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Speaker 1: Weird stuff happens. Teams that you don't think you should win,
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Speaker 1: win games. You know, it's just you never know what
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Speaker 1: happened is gonna happen open the weekend. It doesn't Opening
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Speaker 1: Day weekend probably more than in football than any other sport.
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Speaker 1: I don't think it means anything because it doesn't. I mean,
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Speaker 1: everything can change. UM. But for new coach, new quarterback,
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Speaker 1: high expectations. I do think if they don't win, UM,
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Speaker 1: I think the locker roo will probably find the coaching
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Speaker 1: staff will be fine. I think the fan base in
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Speaker 1: Jacksonville will lose their mind because they are expecting to win.
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Speaker 1: This game it. Oh yeah, Tony, come on, No, not really,
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Speaker 1: lock it? Not yet. You talked about how how dominant
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Speaker 1: the roster wasn't have a better quarterback. I never said dominant.
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Speaker 1: I don't think dominant ever came out of my mind.
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Speaker 1: Quarterback is better, the coach is better, the roster is
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Speaker 1: better overall, but he's not gonna lock. They're on the
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Speaker 1: road history first round quarter quarterback straight. I've been pretty okay. Well,
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Speaker 1: we've got an hour to see if he'll change his
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Speaker 1: mind and lock. There's a reason he's not locked. Let
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Speaker 1: me ask you a question. Would you lock it? Hell? No,
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Speaker 1: So Pete, we didn't. Did you go through and do
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Speaker 1: all every game for the whole season? Why? Plus I didn't.
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Speaker 1: They don't. They just said he didn't have to do it.
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Speaker 1: So I didn't do it. But I would. I would pick.
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Speaker 1: I had my I was writing my picks for the
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Speaker 1: week this week though, and I picked this game already.
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Speaker 1: Oh hey, let's come back and find out. How about that? Yeah,
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Speaker 1: we'll see if Pete will reveal to us who he picked.
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Speaker 1: The Jaguars are the Texans in Week one. Plenty more
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Speaker 1: ahead coming up as well. We'll hear more from Urban
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Speaker 1: Meyer Earlier today, will Trevor Lawrence talk his first NFL
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Speaker 1: we have to have speed. That's Urban Meyer, Jaguar's head coach,
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Speaker 1: earlier today and welcome back. It's Jaguars Happy Hour. J P.
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Speaker 1: Shadrick with you, Tony Basselli, Pete Brisco along with us
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Speaker 1: this coming Sunday, and glad you're with us, and I
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Speaker 1: hope you're enjoying this labor day, Yes, Tony. He talked
19:58
Speaker 1: about Devin Smith like he's gonna be active or he's
20:01
Speaker 1: up and not on the practice squad. He just I mean,
20:04
Speaker 1: if you listen to Urban Meyer on those comments, he
20:06
Speaker 1: talked about three guys. He talked about DJ Chark, He
20:10
Speaker 1: talked about Tyrone Johnson, the new kid, uh new signing
20:14
Speaker 1: from the Los Angeles Chargers, guy who can fly. UM.
20:18
Speaker 1: And then you talked about Devin Smith. I mean that's
20:21
Speaker 1: what the hamstring he says. He talked about Devin Smith
20:28
Speaker 1: and Tyron Johnson UM. And then obviously DJ Chark is
20:32
Speaker 1: Devin Smith. I mean he's I mean the way Irbant
20:35
Speaker 1: was just talking Pete, it sounds like he's either gonna
20:38
Speaker 1: be made active, you know, because it's still the expanded
20:41
Speaker 1: practice squads. He can flex guys up and down right, Um,
20:46
Speaker 1: but if you flex him up, somebody has to go
20:48
Speaker 1: a lot cut somebody. It's not like you're gonna go
20:51
Speaker 1: to fifty four. Guys, did I miss hear that? JP?
20:54
Speaker 1: I mean and Pa, he didn't sound like it did
20:57
Speaker 1: sound like he was pumping him up. He did a
20:59
Speaker 1: little it um. I mean, he could run, there's no doubt.
21:02
Speaker 1: But the guy got injured bad, you know, and so,
21:06
Speaker 1: but he can run. And he had one of the
21:08
Speaker 1: biggest deep thread he dig deep balls in preseason. Yeah,
21:11
Speaker 1: it was huge. And and he just showed up with
21:13
Speaker 1: a day or so before and just kind of showed
21:16
Speaker 1: up and ran to go around got a sixty yard
21:18
Speaker 1: catch out of it. So it's obvious. And people on
21:21
Speaker 1: Twitter got mad at me is a good receiver, but
21:23
Speaker 1: he can't run. He's not fast. No people on Twitter
21:27
Speaker 1: trying to tell me he was fast, Like he's not
21:29
Speaker 1: fast and chart times fast, but Chuck doesn't play as
21:33
Speaker 1: fast as he tied. I've been told people who were
21:39
Speaker 1: at the Charges last year that Tyrone Johnson is can
21:42
Speaker 1: fly and heat, but he has to start stop like
21:46
Speaker 1: like Quitchy. He is a fast twitch like he was
21:51
Speaker 1: time with four three seven. He was time to four
21:53
Speaker 1: three seven Tony. He runs faster than that place, like
21:57
Speaker 1: he catches the ball like you hold your breath. Yeah,
22:00
Speaker 1: I just think that. I think getting him was big
22:02
Speaker 1: for them. It really is, because they were in the
22:05
Speaker 1: preseason everything was like a force field at ten yards
22:09
Speaker 1: and he it was. It was a surprise cutting by
22:13
Speaker 1: the Chargers because a lot of people thought after last
22:16
Speaker 1: year when he came in, because with all the injuries,
22:18
Speaker 1: that he would be a guy that would make the roster.
22:22
Speaker 1: But they have another young guy and guy and they
22:24
Speaker 1: like and they drafted Josh Bomber out of Tennessee, who
22:26
Speaker 1: they really like. So that's why it was a numbers game.
22:29
Speaker 1: But he will play in this league and he would
22:32
Speaker 1: be he would be a part of his big part
22:33
Speaker 1: of this team going forward. He can't teach speed, I
22:36
Speaker 1: mean he just can't. And Marvin Jones isn't a burner either,
22:41
Speaker 1: So when they play with when they play with Chart
22:45
Speaker 1: and Marvin Jones doesn't run very well. He's a good
22:50
Speaker 1: physical player, but he doesn't run. Marvin Jones is getting
22:53
Speaker 1: up in the years and he was never a burner
22:54
Speaker 1: to begin with. And DJ clocked well, but DJ doesn't
22:59
Speaker 1: play to that time. Yeah, well, and in DJ is
23:03
Speaker 1: not a in space making miss like catch the ball
23:08
Speaker 1: like oh my, like watch out because big right. He gone,
23:13
Speaker 1: it's a straight line guy, right. And he doesn't play
23:16
Speaker 1: to his speed, I don't think. But he's a good receiver,
23:19
Speaker 1: he just doesn't play. They don't have somebody who goes
23:22
Speaker 1: like you said, oh my god, he's gonna get by me.
23:26
Speaker 1: They don't have that. Well, there are certain guys that play,
23:30
Speaker 1: you know. I mean the most famous was Jerry Jerry
23:33
Speaker 1: Rice and said he was a four four or five guy. Yeah,
23:36
Speaker 1: but for whatever reason, he ran by everybody ever caught him.
23:39
Speaker 1: He told me that once I go, you were four
23:41
Speaker 1: or five guy? He goes, you did see anybody ever
23:42
Speaker 1: catch me? Did you? Here's another one. I think Jimmy
23:46
Speaker 1: timed out like high four or four is low four
23:49
Speaker 1: fives And there wasn't a there wasn't a d defensive
23:52
Speaker 1: back on planet Earth. If he caught the ball, was
23:55
Speaker 1: gonna run him down. Yeah, it's it's that's how you
23:58
Speaker 1: play the game. I mean, it's speed, it's placed. Remember
24:01
Speaker 1: when who was it? Michael Clayton and Michael Jenkins came out,
24:04
Speaker 1: I think, and remember they were talking about how Michael
24:07
Speaker 1: Jenkins time did so. Michael Jenkins couldn't run. He didn't
24:10
Speaker 1: run at all. He could plain slow. Remember him from
24:12
Speaker 1: Ohiose State picked visit played slow? You can you gotta
24:15
Speaker 1: play fast, and I don't think DJ plays is fast.
24:18
Speaker 1: And now some of that could be for the garbage
24:20
Speaker 1: that were throwing in football for the last couple of years.
24:22
Speaker 1: But um oh, sorry, sorry, Jacksonville. I didn't mean to
24:26
Speaker 1: take a shot at Gardner Minshew. God, they get mad
24:28
Speaker 1: about that still even now, unbelievable. He's an evil who
24:35
Speaker 1: cares out the door. I took a couple of shots
24:38
Speaker 1: and people got mad at me. They still again the
24:41
Speaker 1: perception and I said this when he got when he
24:43
Speaker 1: got traded, The perception of Gardner Minshew outside of Jacksonville,
24:46
Speaker 1: even with the Jaguar Menshu mania crowd is much better
24:51
Speaker 1: than it is inside of jackson because they've watched them
24:53
Speaker 1: close closely. If you watch them close enough, you've realized
24:56
Speaker 1: the camp were some of the ship thinking through it.
25:01
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna. I'm
25:04
Speaker 1: not gonna talk about Eagles. I'm talking about Jacks. I
25:06
Speaker 1: don't talk about hey. By the way, we we had
25:09
Speaker 1: the teaser before we went to the last commercial time out. Pete,
25:13
Speaker 1: you were writing your article about picking Week one games,
25:17
Speaker 1: so would you like to give it to us now
25:19
Speaker 1: or do we want to build the suspense over two hours?
25:22
Speaker 1: I picked the jack Wars to win, close, really closed.
25:29
Speaker 1: I think the Children's are gonna be painting the butt
25:31
Speaker 1: for a lot of teams this year. Is that everyone
25:35
Speaker 1: speaks so highly of David Colley. Is he that I
25:38
Speaker 1: don't know David, but I know a lot of people
25:40
Speaker 1: that know him, guys I in respect, and they say
25:42
Speaker 1: he's a heck of a coach. Yeah. But but Tony Again,
25:46
Speaker 1: the roster has a lot of veteran guys on it,
25:49
Speaker 1: and that line won't be as bad as you think
25:51
Speaker 1: it is. I think they're just gonna be feisty. They're
25:54
Speaker 1: gonna let's put this way, guys like that show up
25:57
Speaker 1: and play hard every week. They just do. They might
26:00
Speaker 1: not be talented, but they play hard, so that means
26:02
Speaker 1: they're gonna be They're gonna put they're gonna scare some
26:05
Speaker 1: teams before teams figure out a way to bet. And
26:09
Speaker 1: they got Philip Lindsay. He's a young back who got
26:11
Speaker 1: a great couple of years, and Devin before he got hurt,
26:13
Speaker 1: and if he's healthy, he's dangerous. Ingram is at back,
26:16
Speaker 1: who could run the ball, David Johnson catch the ball outside.
26:20
Speaker 1: You know, Brandon Cooks is a good player. They got
26:23
Speaker 1: Anthony Miller now from who I thought was gonna be
26:25
Speaker 1: a really big player, but he didn't really have a
26:26
Speaker 1: great opportunity in in Chicago. He can run a little bit.
26:30
Speaker 1: Um connolly's there. He's not gonna scare anybody. But on defense,
26:35
Speaker 1: look they have Zach Punningham is a good player. They
26:38
Speaker 1: have some you know, down young guys that are gonna
26:41
Speaker 1: be decent players. Merciless can he get anything, you know?
26:46
Speaker 1: And the secondary has issues, but Justin Reid's a good safety.
26:48
Speaker 1: He's a good player in the back end. So they're
26:51
Speaker 1: gonna show up and be fight sty. They're not good
26:54
Speaker 1: enough to win consistently, but they're gonna upset somebody this
26:56
Speaker 1: year and they're gonna be a pain in the bad
26:58
Speaker 1: every week. That's what I Pete. You know, you usually
27:03
Speaker 1: picked the games, picked the season the whole year, and
27:06
Speaker 1: you didn't do it this year because you know, CBS
27:08
Speaker 1: didn't make you do it. So we now learned that
27:10
Speaker 1: you only did what you were made to do and
27:12
Speaker 1: not what you like to do. It was my idea
27:13
Speaker 1: originally it was too much work. You took the easy
27:17
Speaker 1: way out. What's that said? How many wins does this
27:21
Speaker 1: team get? I mean, Pete the great uh, the great
27:25
Speaker 1: predictor of all things? How many? How many wins? How
27:29
Speaker 1: many wins are they gonna get? Six? Six wins? Five?
27:35
Speaker 1: Five or six? I probably leave the five five, And
27:40
Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you. Before watching how what happened
27:45
Speaker 1: in the preseason and training camp, I thought it might
27:48
Speaker 1: be more. But the questions that I had are still there.
27:52
Speaker 1: He lv and Jayson was that first and foremost number one.
27:58
Speaker 1: I mean that was the one. Tackles. Are the tackles
28:02
Speaker 1: good enough? Yeah? Question speed outside we talked about it,
28:08
Speaker 1: be period. I think one of the things. One thing
28:13
Speaker 1: I do notice when I'm back and watch the games,
28:16
Speaker 1: I think the defensive line to get down guys will
28:19
Speaker 1: be significantly better, don't this year, No doubt about it.
28:25
Speaker 1: I mean they're I mean Hamilton's the one technique, you know,
28:29
Speaker 1: Brown and Robertson, Harris. I mean those are three good players.
28:34
Speaker 1: I mean those are three they will hold up against
28:38
Speaker 1: the run and Miles Jack will make a ton of tackles.
28:41
Speaker 1: The question is can they rush the past? Well, that's
28:44
Speaker 1: the thing. Can they get off the field on third down? Right?
28:51
Speaker 1: You get him a third and long, then you can
28:53
Speaker 1: get off the field. A lot of those situations should
28:56
Speaker 1: be able to do. You hope so, but you gotta
28:58
Speaker 1: get to the quarterback beat. If you can't get to
29:00
Speaker 1: the quarterback, now you're gonna start blitz in. You better
29:03
Speaker 1: be able to hold up on the back end. Have
29:05
Speaker 1: they answered at all the question of past rush at
29:09
Speaker 1: all in the preseason? No? Because Josh I said it all. Yeh.
29:12
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm still a big believer in Josh Allen.
29:14
Speaker 1: I mean I am, But I saw nothing in camp
29:18
Speaker 1: that made me say, oh my, this guy is a
29:22
Speaker 1: fifteen sack guy because he just dominates tackles and practice.
29:26
Speaker 1: I didn't see that, and you didn't see anything room Jason. No,
29:31
Speaker 1: but I don't think he's that type of player. I
29:33
Speaker 1: think Josh I still, for whatever reason, believe Josh Allen's
29:35
Speaker 1: that player. But you gotta see it, you gotta do it.
29:38
Speaker 1: I think I think it might be the biggest, It
29:41
Speaker 1: might be as big a year for anybody as Josh Allen.
29:43
Speaker 1: I mean, I think this is a huge year for
29:44
Speaker 1: Josh Allen because he had the good work year, you know,
29:48
Speaker 1: COVID and hurt and everything. Last year nothing one of
29:52
Speaker 1: fifteen terrible season. What is he Is he that double
29:57
Speaker 1: digit guy who you can count on to get to
29:59
Speaker 1: the quarterback? I don't know. I hope so he better be.
30:02
Speaker 1: He better be. If he isn't, they have nothing. And
30:04
Speaker 1: the other guys look and smooth are the typical try hard,
30:12
Speaker 1: play hard, tough guys. They get their stuff from their
30:16
Speaker 1: ability to play hard and fight through stuff. They're not
30:19
Speaker 1: athletically what you would want, like you line up and go,
30:22
Speaker 1: oh no, that's not it. But they played tough, physical,
30:25
Speaker 1: hard football and so they'll fall in. They'll get there
30:28
Speaker 1: five sticks ACKs. But you need a guy that's gonna
30:31
Speaker 1: be coming to the line of scripte you go, oh,
30:33
Speaker 1: he's over there. And whether when they picked Josh Allen,
30:36
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say I'm included in this by the way,
30:39
Speaker 1: I thought they had that guy. And after the first year,
30:42
Speaker 1: I was convinced they had that guy. But like you said,
30:45
Speaker 1: last year was a bad year for him, and so
30:48
Speaker 1: far in training camp, in preseason he's been nothing, so
30:52
Speaker 1: that's this is a big year for him. A big
30:54
Speaker 1: game is a big game for him. Let's come back,
30:58
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Speaker 1: l H. We're being very cautious about that for a
35:12
Speaker 1: lot of reasons. You know, there's a tendency that I'd
35:14
Speaker 1: like to do some stuff with him, but I just
35:16
Speaker 1: said it usually and but I think you know a
35:20
Speaker 1: lot of his I can't see a direct run called.
35:23
Speaker 1: You know, not many people do that really in the NFL,
35:27
Speaker 1: especially with the number one pick overall. But you know
35:30
Speaker 1: his legs are gonna be part of the game, you know,
35:32
Speaker 1: And that's done naturally and scramble in any replace. That's
35:36
Speaker 1: Urban Meyer. Earlier today and welcome back at Jaguar's Happy Hour.
35:40
Speaker 1: J P. Shadrick Tony was Sally Pete Frisco Labor Day
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Speaker 1: edition of Jaguar's Happy Hour. What are you shaking your
35:46
Speaker 1: head at me? What don't run? I can't please. He
35:53
Speaker 1: had enough of that at Clemson in the miscast, in
35:56
Speaker 1: that stupid offense, he said he wouldn't do it. He's
35:58
Speaker 1: not gonna do it. You know they're not gonna do
36:01
Speaker 1: I guarantee you. He holds he has to read options
36:05
Speaker 1: where he keeps the ball on Sunday and I hate that.
36:12
Speaker 1: I mean, this is the prototypical standard, the pocket and
36:15
Speaker 1: make throws guy, and they ran him at Clemson. I'm
36:20
Speaker 1: just telling you he's a great athlete. I don't care
36:23
Speaker 1: how good an athlete he is, so I just sign
36:27
Speaker 1: other great athletes to do that. The ball travels a
36:32
Speaker 1: lot faster in the air than it does underneath your right.
36:39
Speaker 1: Urban's right that his legs will be a weapon. I'm
36:42
Speaker 1: not saying design runs, but scrambling by time in the
36:46
Speaker 1: pocket like Justin, like Justin Herbert's leg Yeah, by the way,
36:51
Speaker 1: go watch Justin Herbert. He ransom read option and I
36:55
Speaker 1: don't and now he won't. Now they first of all,
36:58
Speaker 1: you don't get You don't get a pick and choose.
37:00
Speaker 1: You just brought up Justin Herbert because he runs when
37:04
Speaker 1: you have to run. My point, and you run when
37:10
Speaker 1: you have to run hold the ball on read option,
37:15
Speaker 1: you have to run quick. I mean, I just hate
37:20
Speaker 1: to read. I just hate it for a quarterback who
37:23
Speaker 1: doesn't need to do it. He doesn't need to do it.
37:27
Speaker 1: So not that history will tell us everything that's going
37:31
Speaker 1: to go on this Sunday, But I was curious today already. Okay,
37:36
Speaker 1: but I'm just gonna go through it a little bit
37:37
Speaker 1: more that because I did all the research today. If
37:41
Speaker 1: you don't want to pay it off, what a good
37:44
Speaker 1: This is a good stat that Tony stole your thunder
37:47
Speaker 1: a gold selfish? What are you talking about? I did
37:50
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't research today and I came up
37:53
Speaker 1: with this great stat start you know, workie quarterbacks in
37:56
Speaker 1: the last five years of one and their first starts.
38:00
Speaker 1: That's not the stat at all at all. It's the
38:03
Speaker 1: number one overall pick quarterbacks. Uh. In the common draft
38:07
Speaker 1: era there have been twenty five of those. So went
38:10
Speaker 1: through with the assistance of profittball Reference today and just
38:13
Speaker 1: seeing what their first start was like. Well, it is
38:17
Speaker 1: four wins, twenty losses and one tie. The four wins,
38:21
Speaker 1: you gotta go all the way back to Jim Plunkett
38:24
Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy one. He was six and fifteen and
38:26
Speaker 1: his debut a couple of touchdowns in that for the Patriots.
38:33
Speaker 1: He wasn't a very good quarterback for them, which is
38:35
Speaker 1: why he ended up in Oakland. Won two Super bowl
38:37
Speaker 1: the John Elway in Night three was one of eight,
38:41
Speaker 1: fourteen yards a zero point zero rating and was out
38:45
Speaker 1: of the game. They won the football game, though he
38:47
Speaker 1: got the win officially. Michael Vick in two thousand one,
38:50
Speaker 1: Week eight of that year was his first start. He
38:53
Speaker 1: was four of twelve or thirty two yards in a touchdown,
38:55
Speaker 1: but they won the game against Dallas. And then I
38:58
Speaker 1: know to David Carrn with the text since Week one,
39:01
Speaker 1: ten of twenty two, passing a couple of touchdowns win
39:04
Speaker 1: over Dallas also, and it hasn't happened since then. Well,
39:08
Speaker 1: what about Baker Mayfield won the first game he started?
39:12
Speaker 1: He did? Okay, I was there. Well, he he came
39:16
Speaker 1: in in relief for Tyrod Taylor. I thought you've done
39:20
Speaker 1: all those research, Tony, I don't know. Maybe you didn't.
39:22
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think you're wrong. J thank you,
39:25
Speaker 1: Miss Baker Mayfield. No, that's wrong. So so basically, of
39:31
Speaker 1: all these guys that that one they didn't put up.
39:35
Speaker 1: It was a difference. Some of those guys were in
39:36
Speaker 1: a different era though. Come on, you threw sixteen passes
39:40
Speaker 1: back in the day. You're like, oh my god, they're
39:41
Speaker 1: wide open. I mean, you know, and so it's a
39:44
Speaker 1: different air. But your points being that most of these
39:48
Speaker 1: guys who were picked then came to bad teams. That's right.
39:51
Speaker 1: If you're number one pick, you're not going on the
39:53
Speaker 1: defending champions. You're going to bad teams most of the time.
39:58
Speaker 1: Tony stubborn enough, he's getting up Baker Mayfield right now.
40:02
Speaker 1: He's right. He came in relief against the Jets in
40:06
Speaker 1: his first outing and they won that game. And then
40:09
Speaker 1: he started the next week against Oakland and lost that game.
40:13
Speaker 1: So there you go. So so put that in in
40:16
Speaker 1: your file with everything else. You just go day exactly
40:20
Speaker 1: put that in your notes, Tony. Either way, obviously it's
40:24
Speaker 1: not a precurse to what could happen this week, but
40:26
Speaker 1: it is. It is not the most ideal situation most
40:30
Speaker 1: times for number one overall picks, and is this one different?
40:34
Speaker 1: Most guys don't get well, most guys don't get the
40:36
Speaker 1: start on the road against the worst team in the
40:38
Speaker 1: league either, what's your what's your research say on who
40:44
Speaker 1: those teams played? JP, go back into who did plunk
40:47
Speaker 1: it open up against that year? Stop So it doesn't matter.
40:53
Speaker 1: The bottom line is one thing that is consistent, and
40:56
Speaker 1: that some of it's are an old era, is that
40:59
Speaker 1: none of the guys put up good numbers either. You
41:01
Speaker 1: look at the numbers, they were no good even Michael
41:03
Speaker 1: Vick and and uh the car they were not great numbers. Um.
41:09
Speaker 1: But the one thing that I actually think, I think
41:13
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence is gonna play well. I think he'll I
41:18
Speaker 1: think I think they win the game. I think he
41:20
Speaker 1: has three touchdowns one pick and throws for two and
41:23
Speaker 1: fifty plush yards. How much I think he throws for
41:28
Speaker 1: over two hur and fifty yards. I thought you said
41:30
Speaker 1: three over to fifty three touchdowns, one pick and they
41:35
Speaker 1: win the football game. I think he's gonna play well too,
41:39
Speaker 1: and I think they'll win the game. I just think
41:40
Speaker 1: it's gonna be tougher than than you think it is.
41:43
Speaker 1: What's a sweet spot what's the sweet spot for passing
41:46
Speaker 1: attempts for him? Guys? I mean you still want to
41:48
Speaker 1: run the ball and balance it out right if you're urban, Well,
41:52
Speaker 1: if you get sixty and I'd like to be balanced,
41:54
Speaker 1: Let's say you get sixty. Let's say you get place.
41:58
Speaker 1: I think anywhere between third and thirty three attempts. Yeah,
42:04
Speaker 1: thirty and thirty three? Yeah, I think thirty. I think
42:09
Speaker 1: thirty five should be good. Look, the question becomes this
42:11
Speaker 1: to Tony, are they gonna run the ball? Be able
42:13
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42:16
Speaker 1: I mean it's the same mind yet last year they
42:17
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42:19
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42:22
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42:23
Speaker 1: new jersey. Is now why that was his college number?
42:30
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42:32
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42:36
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42:38
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42:43
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42:45
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42:48
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42:52
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42:54
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42:58
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43:03
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43:07
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43:11
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43:13
Speaker 1: be the best player in offense. You're pretty that's accurate.
43:20
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43:24
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43:27
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43:30
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43:34
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43:37
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43:40
Speaker 1: I mean I think Carlos for the eight carry a
43:44
Speaker 1: game guy. So but somebody's got to get So who
43:50
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43:56
Speaker 1: five eight five days? Said, yeah, five days. Who's going
44:00
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44:03
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44:05
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44:08
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44:10
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44:13
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44:15
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44:19
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44:20
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44:28
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44:32
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44:38
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44:40
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44:44
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44:46
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44:50
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44:55
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45:01
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Speaker 1: home of that checks in Bille Jaguars. I love games,
49:10
Speaker 1: but I love Florida. Uh. I wish that they had
49:13
Speaker 1: left differently, but that was deeply personal situation. And but
49:19
Speaker 1: I'll always be respectful to Gators. I'll always be a
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49:27
Speaker 1: when he walked by me. I think I'm allowed to
49:31
Speaker 1: do the skull man. Yeah, I mean that was Jack
49:36
Speaker 1: Kidney's Urban Meyer today discussing his weekend in Hottown. He
49:43
Speaker 1: went to the Gators game on Saturday and welcome back
49:46
Speaker 1: as Jaguars Happy Hour, j P. Shadrick, Pete Briscoe, Tony BASSELLI.
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Speaker 1: It was notable he was back. You know what I
49:54
Speaker 1: like about Urban He's like us, Tony SA He's pretty casual.
50:01
Speaker 1: He likes just hang out. I don't like that. I'm
50:05
Speaker 1: really interesting to see what he's like on the sideline
50:07
Speaker 1: during the game and what is and when it now
50:10
Speaker 1: that it counts, how does he hand? I mean, how
50:14
Speaker 1: does he? How does how does this team handled university?
50:16
Speaker 1: Because you know, everything's been so good so far, Pete,
50:20
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Excitement number one overall pick
50:23
Speaker 1: you got one of the best college coaches in the
50:25
Speaker 1: history of the game of football. As you're head coach,
50:29
Speaker 1: you're investing a lot of money, there's a ton of energy,
50:33
Speaker 1: and everything's good and you know, like you know this
50:36
Speaker 1: covering the NFL's like that in a lot of camps,
50:38
Speaker 1: like everyone feels good this time here AND's like here
50:41
Speaker 1: we go, baby, and the reality that then and that
50:45
Speaker 1: first game comes and smacks you in the face and
50:49
Speaker 1: sixteen teams aren't wake up Monday morning, some Tuesday morning,
50:54
Speaker 1: some one a couple on Friday going, Um, that didn't
50:58
Speaker 1: quite go the way we thought. We have some choes
51:00
Speaker 1: to workout and but he did have the stress of
51:03
Speaker 1: the quarterback competition that he already had to deal with.
51:06
Speaker 1: So it's a great measuring stick right there. Aren't you curious? How?
51:12
Speaker 1: How how is the meaning and how he handles it
51:15
Speaker 1: because he I mean, yes, the last time, yeah, the
51:19
Speaker 1: last time we saw, he just won every game in
51:21
Speaker 1: a while of state and and he didn't lose much
51:24
Speaker 1: in Florida. He doesn't know and like and here's the
51:28
Speaker 1: other thing. A loss in college football is so much
51:32
Speaker 1: more impactful than a loss in the NFL, which is
51:34
Speaker 1: why you got to turn the page right away. And
51:37
Speaker 1: so how is a college coach? Does he handle that?
51:40
Speaker 1: He's got to become an NFL coach. And I think
51:43
Speaker 1: he's smart enough that he'll figure that out. But I
51:46
Speaker 1: think the first week, like if they lost on Sunday,
51:49
Speaker 1: I don't think he would handle it very well. Now
51:53
Speaker 1: Tom didn't handle it very well either, But Tom was.
51:55
Speaker 1: You gotta give Tom credit because once Monday he got
51:59
Speaker 1: all of it out. He moved on to the next one.
52:01
Speaker 1: He figured that out. We're on the practicial with us.
52:05
Speaker 1: He reminded us, you needed to get beat up half
52:09
Speaker 1: the time. You need you need attitude. It was the
52:14
Speaker 1: twenty four hour rule. Unless Tom didn't like something you
52:17
Speaker 1: were doing on Wednesday, then it became the rule. And
52:20
Speaker 1: then he didn't like that it came Thursday. You know,
52:23
Speaker 1: I look I get it from that standpoint. I'm talking
52:25
Speaker 1: about here in your head, you know what I mean.
52:28
Speaker 1: You can't walk around all sullen the whole week. And
52:32
Speaker 1: I used to figure out trying and read Tom all
52:34
Speaker 1: the time and say, oh, he thinks he's winning this week.
52:36
Speaker 1: Like the way he acted during the week, you could
52:38
Speaker 1: usually get a good tell on him. But I wonder
52:42
Speaker 1: if urbans that same kind you know, where you can
52:44
Speaker 1: get a tell that he put that one behind him
52:46
Speaker 1: and he's already feeling good about this one. Because I
52:49
Speaker 1: the look he had on the sidelined in New Orleans,
52:52
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, he would have thought he was losing
52:55
Speaker 1: it in the super Bowl at the fourth quarter. It's
52:59
Speaker 1: just me fascinating. I'm just very curious that. I hope
53:02
Speaker 1: we don't find out for a while. I hope we
53:04
Speaker 1: gotta win in Houston. I mean that's the game that
53:07
Speaker 1: they I think they should win. I think they are
53:10
Speaker 1: the better team. Um, I agree with you. I think
53:12
Speaker 1: Houston is better than people we'll give them credit for
53:14
Speaker 1: because they did add veterans. Um Tyrod Taylor's a guy
53:19
Speaker 1: who's played the quarterback in the NFL. It's not like
53:21
Speaker 1: you have some guy who does what he's doing. He
53:23
Speaker 1: knows how to win football games. He's beating the Jaguar
53:25
Speaker 1: team before. So um yeah, but it's gonna be a
53:31
Speaker 1: fascinating year because I do think there's gonna be more
53:34
Speaker 1: downs than ups. I think overall it will be an
53:37
Speaker 1: up year. I mean, this team will come out of
53:38
Speaker 1: this year going on the right trajectory, the right feeling
53:42
Speaker 1: good about where we're going as an organization. Um but
53:45
Speaker 1: I think you know, the NFL is hard to be
53:47
Speaker 1: tough this year, and this is the first time Urban
53:49
Speaker 1: Myers in this group has ever had, ever had to
53:52
Speaker 1: handle it. He's smart enough, he's been around the game
53:54
Speaker 1: long enough, he'll figure all of it out. I think
53:56
Speaker 1: I believe that. I think I think you'll figure it
53:59
Speaker 1: out as far is the losing and and everybody in
54:02
Speaker 1: town has to get and I'm just prefer I think
54:04
Speaker 1: you gotta be ready for it. And the reason I
54:07
Speaker 1: say that is everything that's being done this year is
54:11
Speaker 1: about next year. And and no nobody wants to hear that.
54:14
Speaker 1: And I know you hate when I say that, because
54:16
Speaker 1: you play at one play at a time, one game
54:19
Speaker 1: at a time. But everything is about next year because
54:23
Speaker 1: this year you're not. I'm sorry you're not getting to
54:25
Speaker 1: the postseason. And it's about building it to next year
54:29
Speaker 1: and every you know, build the team. If you don't
54:31
Speaker 1: like yourself, I don't know when you're competing UH websites
54:37
Speaker 1: and UH sports outlets. Uh have the Jaguars picked the
54:43
Speaker 1: Jaguars a go nine and eight and being the be
54:46
Speaker 1: the last wild card team and get a win wild
54:49
Speaker 1: card weekend. We'll tell the Rocko we need to go
54:52
Speaker 1: back and rework that. Hey, by the way, that's pretty
54:59
Speaker 1: funny you've it's Tyrod Taylor has beaten the Jags before Tony.
55:02
Speaker 1: That was sixteen by the way, that's five seasons ago.
55:08
Speaker 1: And then he was also a part of one of
55:09
Speaker 1: the hugliest playoff games we've ever seen. Yes, not good
55:15
Speaker 1: point is he knows how to I mean, this is
55:17
Speaker 1: a guy who's one. He knows how to win. He's
55:20
Speaker 1: not gonna get rattled out there. This is not a
55:22
Speaker 1: guy who's gonna get overwhelmed in the situation. He's just
55:26
Speaker 1: not that. He's just not a great He's not a
55:29
Speaker 1: great quarterback. He's serviceable as what he is. Yeah, I agree,
55:33
Speaker 1: you mentioned something before and you'll know this better than me.
55:36
Speaker 1: But when I say that about having veterans show up
55:39
Speaker 1: and play and play hard and play tough, they know
55:41
Speaker 1: what they go How big a difference is that when
55:44
Speaker 1: you're playing a veteran laden team, even if they're not
55:47
Speaker 1: as talented, does that show up. It seems like I
55:50
Speaker 1: think early in the year. Now the veteran laden teams,
55:53
Speaker 1: if it's late in the year and there they're thinking
55:58
Speaker 1: about up. But early in the year, I mean, these
56:02
Speaker 1: guys know how to play it. I mean they're professional
56:04
Speaker 1: and they know what they're doing. And everything we talked
56:06
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56:08
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56:13
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56:17
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56:21
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56:24
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56:26
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56:28
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Speaker 1: Jacksonville Sports Talk for Jacksonville sports fans. Ten ten XL,
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Speaker 1: home of the Jacksonville Jaguars. Obviously, they're off three days
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Speaker 1: and they came back with great energy. Every really proud
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Speaker 1: of them. Uh. And then we have another off day tomorrow,
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Speaker 1: but a really good work today. It helps when you
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Speaker 1: have you know, a lineman back. You know, we have words.
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Speaker 1: Everybody should be ready to play Sunday, So that really
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Speaker 1: lifts up practice right there. Welcome back. It's the second
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Speaker 1: hour of Jaguars Happy Hour on this Monday afternoon, Labor Day,
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Speaker 1: and Happy Labor Day to your j P Shadrick, Pete Frisco,
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Speaker 1: Tony Boselli. The Jaguars faced the Houston Texans in Week
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Speaker 1: one this Sunday at NRG Stadium in Houston. That was
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Speaker 1: the head coach Gerban Meyer. Today. Everybody's back. That sounds
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Speaker 1: like good news. On the offensive line, the Jags were
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Speaker 1: back to work today on the practice field, getting ready
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Speaker 1: for that Week one game. A j can part of
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Speaker 1: that group back today coming off the reserve COVID nineteen list.
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Speaker 1: Urban also said that free Herndon won't be available well Sunday,
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Speaker 1: but everybody else should be according to the head coach
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Speaker 1: today and finally to regular season football. Now after a
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Speaker 1: long offseason camp in preseason, it's just about over and
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Speaker 1: we're getting ready for this. Trevor Lawrence debut in the
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Speaker 1: regular season Week one, his first NFL start coming up
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Speaker 1: this Sunday. Tyrod Taylor announced today as a starter for
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Speaker 1: the Houston Texans. And uh, as we mentioned in the
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Speaker 1: first hour, number one overall pick quarterbacks have not fared
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Speaker 1: well and their first start historically for twenty and one
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Speaker 1: in the common draft era, and Lawrence tries to buck
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Speaker 1: that trend this Sunday against the Texans. Pete, Yeah, Herbert,
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Speaker 1: one touchdown and one interception is debut. Would you take
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Speaker 1: that right now? Yes, of course, yeah, yesterday. I'd like
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Speaker 1: two touchdowns if I can get to a t I
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Speaker 1: matter if I give you thirty yards back and give
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Speaker 1: me one more touchdown. So you would take one through
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Speaker 1: two and one, Yeah, that would be a good day.
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Speaker 1: What if you went for like four? Who gunned? Patrick
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Speaker 1: Mahomes came out and it was his second year, but
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Speaker 1: he remember that first game he threw like for three
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Speaker 1: fifty five touchdowns and stupid they won't throw it around
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Speaker 1: like that, though I haven't, I haven't running readopted well then,
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Speaker 1: I mean, I mean offensively, it's not their styles. I mean,
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Speaker 1: I think Darryl Bebls is creative, does not have as
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Speaker 1: a creative and as much formation and motion, and they
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Speaker 1: definitely not the speed the Kansas City did. But Andy
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Speaker 1: Reid is a very creative offensive coordinator, and there's a
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Speaker 1: great job of getting guys and space and creating mismatch.
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Speaker 1: You think they'll be using more pre snap movement than
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Speaker 1: they showed in the preseason. They better. I mean they
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Speaker 1: basically showed none. I would think, well they did a
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Speaker 1: little bit. Yeah, they started showing more about Yeah. I
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Speaker 1: think so they're gonna open it up. I mean they
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Speaker 1: they were as vanilla as they possibly could be. I mean,
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Speaker 1: I think you're gonna start seeing some different toppings on
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Speaker 1: the Sunday and sprinkles and the whipped creams and cherries.
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Speaker 1: I mean, you're gonna see everything there. I see that
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Speaker 1: they're gonna try to win that. I mean, they're gonna
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Speaker 1: be everything to win this game. What do I see
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Speaker 1: first on Sunday a zone read with the quarterback for
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Speaker 1: a bunch of pre snap motion where they get created
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Speaker 1: a kind of a gadget play. I don't think you'll
1:03:26
Speaker 1: see a gadget player, but you know what I mean,
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Speaker 1: like they jet sweep pass or something. Here's what I
1:03:34
Speaker 1: hope I see. I hope I see an early shot
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Speaker 1: they I would, I would, I would take a shot
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Speaker 1: early and let him, let him, let him well, let them,
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Speaker 1: let that right arm loose and just zing one down
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Speaker 1: there and see if you can stretch the defense a
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Speaker 1: little bit age. That's what he can do. He saw
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Speaker 1: that last week against thousand against It was backups, but
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Speaker 1: he took he took the shots, he made the throws.
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Speaker 1: Let him do that. Let him play quarterback act. I agree,
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Speaker 1: I had a lot of success, but that Kidney still
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Speaker 1: didn't play the right quarterback. I hope I hope that.
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Speaker 1: I hope they don't try to protect him too much early.
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Speaker 1: And I hope it's not one of these because if
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Speaker 1: you try to protect him too much, you almost put
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Speaker 1: it in, you know, in a more difficult situation. I
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Speaker 1: hope it's not like this Ron Ron run past scream,
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Speaker 1: you know, run fasts. That infuriates me. Going back to
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Speaker 1: when I was a kid, run run past. I remember
1:04:35
Speaker 1: sitting there. I told Simms that once I go, my
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Speaker 1: dad used to sit there at the screen and scream, run, run, pass,
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Speaker 1: same garbage. Simms looked at me, do me want a
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Speaker 1: super Bowl? He didn't had a good point. Bill. Hey,
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Speaker 1: by the way, some breaking news here, guys. Adam Schefter
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Speaker 1: just a few minutes ago tweeting that former Texans running
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Speaker 1: back Duke Johnson is signing today with the Jaguars practice squad,
1:04:58
Speaker 1: per his agent Drew Rosenhouse. So that might have been
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Speaker 1: what urban was talking about. Is the third down back,
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Speaker 1: that's what he is. He can do that, but receiver
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Speaker 1: he can. He is a third down back. That's a
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Speaker 1: good move. You need that guy on your roster. And
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Speaker 1: uh and I'm just thinking through the COVID protocols. If
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Speaker 1: he's vACC then he'll be able to be ready to go, right.
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Speaker 1: But he's But again, he signed him the practice squad.
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Speaker 1: If he goes on to the active roster, then his
1:05:28
Speaker 1: salary is guaranteed for the entire season. You don't think
1:05:32
Speaker 1: he's up for Houston, do you? I would do that?
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Speaker 1: I mean now, probably not. I mean where else We're
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Speaker 1: gonna have the issue all year If you don't just
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Speaker 1: go ahead and get it done. Right? Are you that
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Speaker 1: worried about the salary all year long? I mean, what's
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Speaker 1: the concern? I I Actually, he doesn't make enough for
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Speaker 1: it to matter. If he probably be, it's guaranteed if
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Speaker 1: he comes in and he does nothing you can get
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Speaker 1: rid of in three weeks, you're paying a million dollars. Well,
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Speaker 1: I'd be less worried about that right now. But you're
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Speaker 1: right though, Well he was out there all year. I
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Speaker 1: just said, you're right, that's what a lot of teams
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Speaker 1: will do. I big you're concerned going into this game
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Speaker 1: because I don't consider Aging a wide receiver. I mean,
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Speaker 1: he's never been a wide receiver. He's been a return specialist.
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Speaker 1: At Detroit, was he a wide receiver? Feat? He's played
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Speaker 1: wide receiver, but not very much. He was, Yeah, not
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Speaker 1: much at all. It was very few looks his way
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Speaker 1: last year. Now. Yeah, And so my point is saying
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Speaker 1: that you're basically going into the game with four receivers
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Speaker 1: and one of them the guy who just picked up
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Speaker 1: up and one of them has a finger injuries just
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Speaker 1: getting back from I that's the one thing that shocks
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Speaker 1: me going into this Sunday that they have there that
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Speaker 1: receiver position. Somebody's gotta be. They gotta bring somebody up,
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Speaker 1: But he can't bring the venners up because then they're
1:07:00
Speaker 1: aren't either money it'll be. I'm just it's me be
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Speaker 1: really interesting. That's one of the things I want. I mean,
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Speaker 1: you look at it, and I'm just going until I'm proving.
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Speaker 1: I'm proving the proved wrong. Agne is a return guy
1:07:16
Speaker 1: to me. But he's a return guy. Okay, he's a
1:07:20
Speaker 1: returnut You're basically going up with seven skilled positions between
1:07:24
Speaker 1: your running backs and your receivers. And Agnew by the
1:07:27
Speaker 1: way last year had twenty targets thirteen catches for eighty
1:07:31
Speaker 1: nine yards last season. That's his That's when you changed
1:07:35
Speaker 1: the wide receiver. That's not well, they probably and I
1:07:38
Speaker 1: gotta go back and watch what imagine it threw some
1:07:40
Speaker 1: quick bubble screens and stuff like that to him. He's
1:07:43
Speaker 1: not a receiver, no, but he could play there in
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Speaker 1: a pinch at I could play there in age. Well,
1:07:51
Speaker 1: that's not not getting crazy. I would have been a
1:07:55
Speaker 1: great move. I would have been a great move tight end. Gosh.
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Speaker 1: So if you look at the roster, I mean, they
1:08:05
Speaker 1: just interest. I mean this rookie quarterback and you have
1:08:08
Speaker 1: you have three backs, they're all very similar. Game drows
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Speaker 1: will be the best, and you have basically four receivers.
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Speaker 1: One of them you just got picked up off the
1:08:17
Speaker 1: I agree, it's a it's a weird dynamic. By the way,
1:08:19
Speaker 1: if you were a move tight end, they would have
1:08:21
Speaker 1: took one look at you and said, Okay, we're gonna
1:08:23
Speaker 1: do to you what we did the Jason Peters because
1:08:25
Speaker 1: he was a move tight end in college. You know
1:08:27
Speaker 1: that he was in the Monster at Arkansas and I remember,
1:08:30
Speaker 1: I go make that guy at left tackle, and they
1:08:32
Speaker 1: did that guy, and he's become a he became a
1:08:35
Speaker 1: good player. He started again the bear. Speaking of tight end, Pete,
1:08:44
Speaker 1: you mentioned the newest edition at tight end a little earlier,
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Speaker 1: Jacob Hollister, fifth year player out of Wyoming, sixty nine.
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Speaker 1: What is this? He's now the best receiving receiving threat
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Speaker 1: at the position. That's what it is right now. He's
1:09:00
Speaker 1: the best receiving threat. And he's not great at he's
1:09:03
Speaker 1: good at he's okay at it. He's had he had
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Speaker 1: a couple of years where would he catch one year
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Speaker 1: so and he had a in the preseason, he had
1:09:11
Speaker 1: a back injury to limit him a little bit, but
1:09:12
Speaker 1: he caught a touchdown pass when he came back. I
1:09:15
Speaker 1: think he becomes a factor in their passing game. Who's
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Speaker 1: Seattle keep getting rid of him because I thought he
1:09:20
Speaker 1: was a Buffalo? Oh he left Seattle? Want the Buffalo? Yeah?
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Speaker 1: But he's a capable receiver in the passing game here,
1:09:33
Speaker 1: I mean he is. I mean, is he that much
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Speaker 1: better than the O'shannessy? No, he's a little bit better
1:09:40
Speaker 1: than I don't and I think it's a wash. There's
1:09:45
Speaker 1: when we talked about next year, there's the position you
1:09:48
Speaker 1: gotta fix for next year. Not one of them. We're
1:09:51
Speaker 1: not going to we've kicked off the season. Were talking
1:09:55
Speaker 1: about the draft next year because you want you know
1:09:59
Speaker 1: why it's about next year because next year's team is
1:10:01
Speaker 1: going to be a playoff team. Can we quite open? Locke?
1:10:08
Speaker 1: It's week one. Haven't even put the ball on the
1:10:10
Speaker 1: tea yet for the regular season. Like you're trying to
1:10:16
Speaker 1: get better at golf and you put the ball on
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Speaker 1: the tee and you know you're gonna shoot one ten,
1:10:20
Speaker 1: but you know next year you're gonna shoot in the eighties.
1:10:24
Speaker 1: Then you're doing everything to hone your game for next year.
1:10:27
Speaker 1: So it's all that next year. That's a terrible analogy,
1:10:31
Speaker 1: by the way, I mean, just awful. That was all
1:10:33
Speaker 1: I went from one eighties in the years. It doesn't
1:10:37
Speaker 1: make any sense. You're not talking about the draft right now.
1:10:40
Speaker 1: Let's go play a game about the drafting tight endle
1:10:43
Speaker 1: coming creations, Pete. Were you playing from the senior tees?
1:10:47
Speaker 1: By the way, when you did that, I should though,
1:10:50
Speaker 1: wait much better. Oh, JP, you want to go play
1:10:53
Speaker 1: one day, this good golfer, let's go. Let's do it. Um,
1:10:58
Speaker 1: that'd be like, I'm not gonna j JP. Are you
1:11:02
Speaker 1: any good golf? Like four or five times a week?
1:11:06
Speaker 1: He got to do. That's all he has to do.
1:11:08
Speaker 1: He's he just his names on the wall and he
1:11:10
Speaker 1: plays golf. That's all he does. Do you remember when
1:11:12
Speaker 1: he missed the show to play golf? I never I
1:11:15
Speaker 1: never missed the show to play golf. Part of it,
1:11:18
Speaker 1: Oh I did not. That was a story by sources.
1:11:30
Speaker 1: You're like the t you're on like the eighteenth three
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Speaker 1: green and you couldn't get there in time you were
1:11:35
Speaker 1: finishing up your round. How many times do we got
1:11:39
Speaker 1: a good week in the summer do you play golf
1:11:42
Speaker 1: this year? I played once a week. Maybe how many
1:11:47
Speaker 1: dollars trips did you go on this year? I went
1:11:50
Speaker 1: on two golf trips. There was a three month period
1:11:53
Speaker 1: that I went on two golf trips and I didn't
1:11:56
Speaker 1: play golf except for one time in the uh in Florida.
1:12:05
Speaker 1: Come on, where you play at marsh Landing? Isn't that
1:12:08
Speaker 1: where you remember at marshal I guarantee if we checked
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Speaker 1: your bill and zo grabs and saw how many times
1:12:15
Speaker 1: you checked in and then somebody else checked in a
1:12:18
Speaker 1: couple of times, check in, right, somebody's got your member number, Tony. Somehow.
1:12:23
Speaker 1: I don't know how that works. JP. But as far
1:12:27
Speaker 1: as talking about next year, I know they haven't kicked
1:12:30
Speaker 1: off the ball yet. I get it. But again, you
1:12:33
Speaker 1: have to be a realist when you look at big pictures.
1:12:35
Speaker 1: Sometimes nobody wants to hear this, but they're not going
1:12:39
Speaker 1: to be a playoff team this year, and they will
1:12:42
Speaker 1: be next year. I'm locking two thousand and twenty two
1:12:46
Speaker 1: is a playoff year for the Jacksonville Janguards. How about that?
1:12:50
Speaker 1: Would you take that? Would you take the walk right
1:12:53
Speaker 1: now from me? Two? And we have to just give
1:12:58
Speaker 1: up on this year to to accept that lock. Is
1:13:01
Speaker 1: that part of the terms, that's part of the deal.
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Speaker 1: I'm not taking the Yeah, I'm not doing by the way,
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Speaker 1: I just went back and looked at my us A handicap.
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Speaker 1: Every scorer in the last twenty four weeks, I have
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Speaker 1: played twenty rounds of golf less than once a week
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Speaker 1: a couple of times, and that includes golf trip where
1:13:30
Speaker 1: I played a couple of times in a day. What's
1:13:33
Speaker 1: your handicap? Let me look at it right here. Official
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Speaker 1: handicap U s G A is not working ten point one.
1:13:44
Speaker 1: So you're shooting two consistently, then, oh, I'm no. At
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Speaker 1: ten point one index, I'm probably shooting mid eighties. You know.
1:13:55
Speaker 1: You know what else too about the handicap system. When
1:13:58
Speaker 1: you get at eleven on a whole, Oh, I'm only
1:14:00
Speaker 1: putting my eight down from my handicap. That's not the
1:14:06
Speaker 1: way they give three times by the handicap. The handicap
1:14:13
Speaker 1: is not okay. But when you're playing with somebody and
1:14:17
Speaker 1: you get it and say you had four in the
1:14:19
Speaker 1: water and you get to the hole and you put out,
1:14:22
Speaker 1: what are you what are you saying telling everybody got
1:14:24
Speaker 1: on the whole. I'll say, I got an eleven, but
1:14:28
Speaker 1: put me down. So I got that leaven, but I
1:14:33
Speaker 1: can't put it on eleven in my handicap. Get to
1:14:36
Speaker 1: the end of the round and you told up your score.
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Speaker 1: What are you holding up there at eleven eleven? And
1:14:41
Speaker 1: then I'll say it's adjusted to put in the handicap,
1:14:44
Speaker 1: to whatever the adjustment on the car. He's getting defensive, pete,
1:14:51
Speaker 1: he's getting real defensive right now. Okay. But like if
1:14:53
Speaker 1: you're and your buddies are playing, you're playing around the
1:14:55
Speaker 1: golf and you get to the last hole and you go, oh,
1:14:58
Speaker 1: you got a three stroke lead on me, and then
1:15:01
Speaker 1: you finished up and you get a bit okay, what
1:15:04
Speaker 1: are you putting down? Are you putting the eight down down?
1:15:08
Speaker 1: So the way me and my friends play, we don't
1:15:10
Speaker 1: play total score. We play whole by whole, so that
1:15:13
Speaker 1: once you max out your handicap, he's picked up. You've done.
1:15:16
Speaker 1: Because we want to play fast, but you've never you've
1:15:20
Speaker 1: never kept score in the entire round. We don't. That's
1:15:23
Speaker 1: not how we play. We played by you've done it before,
1:15:25
Speaker 1: you've played it. Usually in the country club when we're playing,
1:15:29
Speaker 1: we're trying to play as fast as we possibly country Clo.
1:15:32
Speaker 1: We don't play that. I'm saying, would you like another cocktail? Yeah? Course.
1:15:44
Speaker 1: Something about the whole system that bothers me is like,
1:15:47
Speaker 1: if you get an eleven on a hole, you got
1:15:49
Speaker 1: it eleven. I get that. Peace. But we're talking about handicaps.
1:15:54
Speaker 1: There's a you I know, I get it. I play
1:15:57
Speaker 1: with some guys and they'll like hit like the They'll
1:16:00
Speaker 1: be like, you have a ten and they'll say, oh,
1:16:02
Speaker 1: I'm only gonna put down the triple on that because
1:16:04
Speaker 1: of the U. S J. And I go. So we
1:16:06
Speaker 1: get to the end of the round, the guy goes, oh,
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Speaker 1: I shot, I don't know. You didn't got a ten
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Speaker 1: on that hale. Well, my card always says seven. Here.
1:16:15
Speaker 1: We don't play. It doesn't matter. At the end of it.
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Speaker 1: We played my whole at whatever score I say at
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Speaker 1: the end, is my U. S G A adjusted? He's
1:16:30
Speaker 1: he's really defensive right now, Pete must say, let's come
1:16:32
Speaker 1: back in a moment. We'll play keeping it real when
1:16:35
Speaker 1: we come back, and maybe we'll just continue the handicapped discussion.
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Speaker 1: Raycheon Jenkins solidified as the starter at one of the
1:21:20
Speaker 1: safety spots, a strong safety spot, but Irvin Meyers said
1:21:23
Speaker 1: today that Andrew Wingered or Andre Cisco could start at
1:21:28
Speaker 1: free safety. There's still an or there? Who and why?
1:21:32
Speaker 1: I tell you, what are you laughing at? I'm laughing
1:21:35
Speaker 1: at that peace reaction. I would start Cisco. I think
1:21:38
Speaker 1: Rudy Ford's gonna get on the field as well. He'll
1:21:40
Speaker 1: be your dime linebacker. Um, it's I mean, Andrew Wingered
1:21:45
Speaker 1: is a good specialist player. I would have said if
1:21:49
Speaker 1: I was looking at the competition. At the competition, he's
1:21:52
Speaker 1: probably the fourth best safety. I could argue Daniel Thomas
1:21:55
Speaker 1: as better back there that as far as a safety
1:21:58
Speaker 1: to your safety, Um, but your winger they like him. Um,
1:22:02
Speaker 1: he's a good specialtiest player. I still go Cisco, get
1:22:08
Speaker 1: him reps out there, and he's healthy, he should be starting.
1:22:11
Speaker 1: I don't get it at all. I do not get
1:22:13
Speaker 1: that one one bit. Other than the fact that you
1:22:16
Speaker 1: might be scared to put a rookie safety on the field,
1:22:19
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be. He has ranged, he's long, he might
1:22:21
Speaker 1: make a mistake or two, But again, what is Winger
1:22:25
Speaker 1: gonna bring to you? He's a special teams players shouldn't
1:22:28
Speaker 1: be on the field defense. It's a terrible decision if
1:22:31
Speaker 1: they start him, terrible. You're right, Thomas is better than
1:22:34
Speaker 1: him too. Yeah, I don't get it. What's the what?
1:22:37
Speaker 1: What's the Russia now? Behind that? Um, I don't know.
1:22:41
Speaker 1: He didn't really, he didn't really dig into it today.
1:22:45
Speaker 1: Maybe on the day call and see what he says.
1:22:47
Speaker 1: Is there any follow up conversations questions? I mean, right,
1:22:52
Speaker 1: did somebody just say did they say, oh we we
1:22:54
Speaker 1: gott You're not serious, are you Urban? Well? The question
1:22:58
Speaker 1: was the question, believe it was from Jamal st Cyr
1:23:01
Speaker 1: of Channel four Today said, you know, so Cisco is
1:23:04
Speaker 1: the starter at Free Safety, and Urban was like, it's
1:23:08
Speaker 1: still an ore situation. Andrew wingered and Cisco are are
1:23:12
Speaker 1: listed as or in the depth chart. Okay. Then there
1:23:15
Speaker 1: was their follow up, why no, no, of course not JP.
1:23:21
Speaker 1: Why didn't you ask the question, why don't you follow up?
1:23:23
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not teared. I'm not teared to be
1:23:25
Speaker 1: in the press conferences. But there's rules, there's rules and regulations.
1:23:34
Speaker 1: So he used to say, that would be like saying, um,
1:23:38
Speaker 1: let me see who is one of your special teams
1:23:40
Speaker 1: guys from back in the day that's gonna start at
1:23:42
Speaker 1: safety all of a sudden. I mean just special teams player,
1:23:51
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? You think you shouldn't be
1:23:53
Speaker 1: started safety. You start a kid. The kid can run
1:24:00
Speaker 1: Skilles and he can run well when you can run,
1:24:02
Speaker 1: he's fast. Yeah, but he doesn't play sideline to sideline
1:24:08
Speaker 1: and the other tick and play in Jenkins and Jenkins
1:24:12
Speaker 1: and fan Cisco. You'd have a nice one to punch
1:24:14
Speaker 1: there at the safety spot they're built around for next year.
1:24:19
Speaker 1: You stopped talking this week, you know, speaking all this
1:24:24
Speaker 1: next year, Tony. We you know, we haven't even gone
1:24:28
Speaker 1: through game by game to have you guys pick yet,
1:24:30
Speaker 1: and that would put Pete in his place. You'd have
1:24:33
Speaker 1: to talk about this year. What are we doing that?
1:24:35
Speaker 1: What are we gonna go? We can do that tonight
1:24:37
Speaker 1: at the end of the very end of the show tonight,
1:24:39
Speaker 1: if you'd like, Okay, we'll do that. By the way,
1:24:41
Speaker 1: we cut the roster last week, and we didn't. We
1:24:43
Speaker 1: were pretty close. We had a couple of wrong though. Yeah.
1:24:46
Speaker 1: Let me keep it real on another topic you brought
1:24:49
Speaker 1: up here, this COVID. I think it's I think there's
1:24:53
Speaker 1: gonna be bigger issues this year with COVID than last year.
1:24:57
Speaker 1: Why do you say that, um, because you're seeing breakthrough
1:25:01
Speaker 1: cases with the vacks, you know, people being backed in.
1:25:05
Speaker 1: But I mean it's safer. I mean, still please get
1:25:07
Speaker 1: vaccinated in my opinion, because you're not seeing the hospitalizations
1:25:10
Speaker 1: or the you know, god forbid deaths um because they're
1:25:15
Speaker 1: not as strict JP as they were last year. Remember
1:25:18
Speaker 1: last year they're testing every day, lain testing healthy people
1:25:22
Speaker 1: all the time out hold on. Last year they tested
1:25:25
Speaker 1: every day, so they got in front of it. If
1:25:27
Speaker 1: anyone got it. Number two, it was um you were
1:25:31
Speaker 1: called out if you were an NFL player and you
1:25:35
Speaker 1: did not just go home, if you were out in
1:25:37
Speaker 1: public and socializing, that was just like a big no no.
1:25:41
Speaker 1: These guys are living their lives now. I mean that
1:25:43
Speaker 1: there's not the stigma in the emphasis of guys just
1:25:47
Speaker 1: going from the facility to home and not socializing and
1:25:50
Speaker 1: stuff like that. So you have people out more, you're
1:25:53
Speaker 1: gonna have less testing and so that if a breakthrough
1:25:56
Speaker 1: or if an unvaccinated oh, I guess the unvaccinate are
1:25:59
Speaker 1: getting tested every day still. But if a breakthrough case
1:26:01
Speaker 1: comes from an vaccinated player and you don't catch it
1:26:04
Speaker 1: because you're not testing every day and it starts spreading around,
1:26:07
Speaker 1: you're gonna have issues. That's all like Zack Martin's Zack
1:26:10
Speaker 1: Martin's vaccinated. Perfect example, look at the look at all
1:26:14
Speaker 1: the issues the Titans had during the preseason. But but
1:26:17
Speaker 1: here's the here's the problem with it. Cole Beasley was
1:26:22
Speaker 1: a five day guy because he was close contact with
1:26:27
Speaker 1: a trainer or equipment. Guy who was vaccinated had COVID.
1:26:33
Speaker 1: So everybody went crazy because Cole Beasley was had to
1:26:35
Speaker 1: sit out for five days because right, so, look, I'm
1:26:40
Speaker 1: I'm vaccinated, your vaccinat we got vaccinated. Period, we both
1:26:43
Speaker 1: had COVID. So but my point on it is we're testing.
1:26:48
Speaker 1: They're testing a lot of healthy people now and so
1:26:51
Speaker 1: if there's the virus. I don't know if you know
1:26:53
Speaker 1: anything about the testing, but the testing cycles forty for
1:26:56
Speaker 1: COVID forty cycles and if you test, if you have
1:27:00
Speaker 1: I know this because a guy I have done a
1:27:01
Speaker 1: lot of research on to put a guy I know
1:27:04
Speaker 1: was what did all the work at the super Bowl?
1:27:08
Speaker 1: You worked with No? He worked with me, he did.
1:27:11
Speaker 1: Although he did all the work at the super Bowl
1:27:13
Speaker 1: setting up to set everything in the day like two
1:27:15
Speaker 1: days before, he was there for four or five days.
1:27:19
Speaker 1: He tested positive and the doctor told him on the
1:27:21
Speaker 1: thirty seventh cycle, which means you don't have enough virus
1:27:23
Speaker 1: in your nose to transmit. Really you tested positive. So
1:27:27
Speaker 1: he had to go home, and then he tested again
1:27:29
Speaker 1: on Monday and he was negative. The point being is
1:27:32
Speaker 1: if they lowered the testing threshold the twenty cycles, we
1:27:35
Speaker 1: wouldn't see as many positive tests. And there's there's the problem.
1:27:40
Speaker 1: So I get it. I know COVID can be nasty.
1:27:43
Speaker 1: I had it, you had it. We know, but we
1:27:45
Speaker 1: also also know that sometimes healthy people are testing positive
1:27:50
Speaker 1: very minute levels. And therefore in the NFL there you
1:27:53
Speaker 1: ain't an amount, and and that's going to be an issue.
1:27:56
Speaker 1: You're right, it probably will be more of an issue
1:27:58
Speaker 1: this year. Yeah, and Tom Brady said it, um, you know,
1:28:04
Speaker 1: and I actually you know. Tom Brady was in the
1:28:06
Speaker 1: news making some really interesting comments that I agreed with
1:28:09
Speaker 1: a thousand percent where about the game of football. But
1:28:11
Speaker 1: we'll leave that for later. But his point was, I mean,
1:28:14
Speaker 1: he said the same thing. I've been thinking about it
1:28:15
Speaker 1: for all of as soon as the protocols came out,
1:28:18
Speaker 1: and like, you know what this is gonna be. You're
1:28:20
Speaker 1: gonna see games teams impacted, UM this year, And that's
1:28:25
Speaker 1: why I was smart for them to keep the six
1:28:27
Speaker 1: team UH player pract squad, you know, the you know,
1:28:31
Speaker 1: expanded roster rules, all that good stuff. Um, because I
1:28:35
Speaker 1: think you're gonna see issues. I think you're gonna see
1:28:36
Speaker 1: some SEMs to be really impacted. I mean, just read
1:28:39
Speaker 1: an article today University of Georgia, Kirby Smart. They're having
1:28:42
Speaker 1: a you know, a bunch of guys that four starters
1:28:45
Speaker 1: going to the next week that are out because of COVID.
1:28:48
Speaker 1: I mean, and these are all vaccinated players. So I
1:28:51
Speaker 1: think this is we're far, um, far from out of
1:28:54
Speaker 1: the woods and having to deal with COVID as far
1:28:57
Speaker 1: as impacting games on a weekly basis. If if you're
1:29:00
Speaker 1: vaccinated and you get sick, I mean you're not you're
1:29:03
Speaker 1: not sick, and you test positive, should you be out
1:29:06
Speaker 1: of the game and not be able to play? I
1:29:08
Speaker 1: mean like you, yes, Pete. I I played games where
1:29:13
Speaker 1: I was so sick and I could could barely breathe
1:29:16
Speaker 1: and it was coughing and season and running nooses and
1:29:19
Speaker 1: you just felt terrible and you wouldn't play. This is
1:29:23
Speaker 1: a different world now. People also used to go to
1:29:25
Speaker 1: work not feeling good right all the time. It's a
1:29:28
Speaker 1: different world. We live in a different world since COVID
1:29:31
Speaker 1: so um, I'm not even gonna try to project what
1:29:34
Speaker 1: it used to be like because it's not like that anymore.
1:29:39
Speaker 1: And it'll be interesting to see how long this goes.
1:29:41
Speaker 1: I still think at some point, not this year, but
1:29:46
Speaker 1: at some point in the future. I think we as
1:29:48
Speaker 1: a culture, you almost have stay. It's like, listen, we're
1:29:50
Speaker 1: gonna live life, you know, college football live life all weekend.
1:29:54
Speaker 1: I don't know if this only cow everywhere? And then
1:29:58
Speaker 1: and then, did you see, by the way, the quarterback
1:30:01
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence was at Clemson, so of course people highlighted
1:30:05
Speaker 1: him being there, saying he was around a lot of
1:30:07
Speaker 1: people without a mask on and a bunch of players
1:30:10
Speaker 1: everywhere doing the same thing though, by the way, but no,
1:30:14
Speaker 1: the Tony's point is you eventually gotta get back to
1:30:16
Speaker 1: living life. At my point, Trevor Lawrence should not be
1:30:19
Speaker 1: that right. That wouldn't have happened last year. It would
1:30:22
Speaker 1: have been you've been shunned if you've done it, crowned upon.
1:30:28
Speaker 1: That stuff's gonna happen. And I'm saying, and you get
1:30:30
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1:30:32
Speaker 1: you know, especially guys. These are young guys who like
1:30:35
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1:30:38
Speaker 1: with that. But to increase your chances of getting COVID correct,
1:30:47
Speaker 1: it's gonna be interesting here. Just I thought, you know,
1:30:49
Speaker 1: you brought the peering around the press and everything else,
1:30:52
Speaker 1: and we're still dealing with it. I mean, I don't
1:30:55
Speaker 1: get a flying team playing the Jaguard games, which makes
1:30:58
Speaker 1: life much more difficult. Everyone really feels sorry for me.
1:31:01
Speaker 1: But by commercial every week, that's harder than flying on
1:31:04
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1:31:08
Speaker 1: So if the players are dealing with, the coaches are
1:31:10
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1:31:12
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1:31:17
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1:31:19
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1:31:22
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Speaker 1: ruled out Tampa. It's a division rival because it's easier
1:37:10
Speaker 1: to get to and the flights from Green Bay were
1:37:12
Speaker 1: cheaper and all that. So there was a lot of
1:37:14
Speaker 1: that involved. Yeah, it was, but it was shot against
1:37:19
Speaker 1: about Jacksonville though. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, Like there's basically
1:37:23
Speaker 1: said there's not a lot to do. They're the same
1:37:25
Speaker 1: things that we all. It's not nothing new. I mean
1:37:28
Speaker 1: we've seen stories like this before. I thought the for
1:37:31
Speaker 1: the Saints fans, it's an easy drive if you want
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1:37:43
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1:37:45
Speaker 1: the country anyway. They just package fans all over the
1:37:47
Speaker 1: place from when they were winning titles. So that's why
1:37:49
Speaker 1: I thought the whole thing was probably just a little
1:37:51
Speaker 1: overblown looking back at it now. But you know, for
1:37:56
Speaker 1: for for like the national media loves to take shots
1:37:59
Speaker 1: and say is enough for a place that there's people
1:38:02
Speaker 1: claim there's nothing to do here. I sure love living
1:38:04
Speaker 1: and find something to do every day day time. It's
1:38:09
Speaker 1: it's look, Jacksonville is a great city. People don't know
1:38:11
Speaker 1: what it is, that's all. I mean. The golf courses,
1:38:15
Speaker 1: the beaches. We know about the golf courses. We found
1:38:18
Speaker 1: out today Tony, Yeah, will be more nightlife, absolutely there
1:38:24
Speaker 1: could be more nightlife, not that old people like me
1:38:27
Speaker 1: or Tony. I'm good, all right. Look like like John's
1:38:33
Speaker 1: trying to build that thing downtown because when people go
1:38:35
Speaker 1: to a game, they can go go something. You know,
1:38:38
Speaker 1: there's nothing really now. Alright, guys, we've got a bunch
1:38:41
Speaker 1: of social media questions today, so let's try to fly
1:38:44
Speaker 1: through some of these and start off with question number
1:38:48
Speaker 1: one today at Angela's seven seven zero, Tony, are you
1:38:55
Speaker 1: going to put a lock on any game this season? Yes,
1:39:00
Speaker 1: just not this one. He doesn't like this. He doesn't
1:39:04
Speaker 1: like this one. So okay, if we go through the schedule,
1:39:07
Speaker 1: I don't really see a lock on it. Maybe the
1:39:10
Speaker 1: next time the Tech, when the Texans come to Jacksonville,
1:39:12
Speaker 1: maybe you know, I'm not gonna put a lock. I
1:39:15
Speaker 1: feel like the Jags a gonna win. I was close
1:39:17
Speaker 1: to locking in, but I said, you know what, I
1:39:19
Speaker 1: gotta get a feel for this team. I gotta get
1:39:20
Speaker 1: a feel for Urban, I gotta get a field for Trevor.
1:39:23
Speaker 1: We get a feel for the team, and then I'll
1:39:24
Speaker 1: be able to lock it. Much so, the only lock
1:39:27
Speaker 1: made so far on the program is me locking playoffs
1:39:30
Speaker 1: for next year. Yes, you lockfay, there's there's a lock.
1:39:34
Speaker 1: We heard it. The vault is alive. Lock it up. Alright, next,
1:39:42
Speaker 1: al right, next question. We're moving along here on social
1:39:45
Speaker 1: media questions today on Jaguars Happy Hour and this is
1:39:48
Speaker 1: at destin Ray Pete, So when are the Jaguars drafting
1:39:51
Speaker 1: Kyle Hamilton's. Well, if you missed the Florida State Notre
1:39:54
Speaker 1: Dame game instant classic last night, Kyle Hamilton's had a
1:39:58
Speaker 1: couple of interceptions the safety for Notre Dame, and he
1:40:01
Speaker 1: was obviously a very good player for the Irish coming
1:40:04
Speaker 1: into the season. But a big game last night, Pete,
1:40:06
Speaker 1: what do you think He's six ft four two utter
1:40:10
Speaker 1: fifteen pounds and he made a play last night where
1:40:13
Speaker 1: he was on the opposite hash and picked off a ball. Now,
1:40:16
Speaker 1: having said all that, that is not a position you're
1:40:19
Speaker 1: drafting where he where the Jaguars will be picking. They
1:40:22
Speaker 1: have other pressing needs. You have two safeties, now, what
1:40:24
Speaker 1: do you need Kyle Hamilton's. Oh wait, one of them
1:40:27
Speaker 1: is not starting. Maybe if you're safety is going in
1:40:33
Speaker 1: the next year, should be Cisco and Jenkins period, end
1:40:37
Speaker 1: of story. And so why would you pick Kyle Hamilton?
1:40:40
Speaker 1: You don't need to have other pressing needs no comment,
1:40:44
Speaker 1: no comment. No, I'm talking about that. But I don't care.
1:40:47
Speaker 1: Why I don't care. I don't care. I'm not talking
1:40:50
Speaker 1: about draft next year. No, I'm not doing it. I
1:40:59
Speaker 1: mean I can right now. I give the lock of
1:41:03
Speaker 1: the year. Are talking about the draft and the least
1:41:06
Speaker 1: we get past week? We started early last year. You
1:41:12
Speaker 1: started early. I thought the rule of thumb was when
1:41:15
Speaker 1: the Jaguars were eliminated from postseason contention started waiting more
1:41:20
Speaker 1: that nothing before another lock. That's another lock. That's a double.
1:41:27
Speaker 1: We've got two locks. Let's move along. Next question on
1:41:30
Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour this Monday afternoon from at Peace Sabero.
1:41:37
Speaker 1: Who scores the first touchdown for the Jags in one season?
1:41:40
Speaker 1: I say, James Robinson. Pete, I'll say, I'll say James
1:41:47
Speaker 1: Robinson as well. I'll go dj R. How long is
1:41:53
Speaker 1: the run gonna be for you? Robinson to do it?
1:41:55
Speaker 1: Three D three day? Three yard said three. Yeah, it's ridiculous. Okay,
1:42:05
Speaker 1: there you have it. Our next question question next, we're
1:42:08
Speaker 1: flying through him. This is Robert Kimp Jr. One over
1:42:11
Speaker 1: under six hundred receiving yards collectively for the tight end group,
1:42:14
Speaker 1: and is that a reasonable numbers an under? I mean, okay,
1:42:24
Speaker 1: mad Her to get you two d maybe are they
1:42:28
Speaker 1: going to get four hundred out of the rest of them? Oh? Under,
1:42:37
Speaker 1: you're going over Jacob Alster for Shaughnessy. They eat three fifty,
1:42:42
Speaker 1: they get seven hundred between the two of them. Okay,
1:42:46
Speaker 1: Captain Optimism teal glasses, you're wearing a day. I like that.
1:42:52
Speaker 1: Under the next question on Jaguar's Happy Hour on this
1:42:55
Speaker 1: Labor day, a's two underscore winners. Guys, as this is
1:42:59
Speaker 1: Irvan myers first regular season game in the league, what
1:43:01
Speaker 1: do you think is going to be the hardest thing
1:43:03
Speaker 1: for him to adjust to compared to college football, particularly
1:43:07
Speaker 1: in those crunch time moments in the fourth quarter of games.
1:43:10
Speaker 1: Pete coach Briscoe to tell us, well, I think we
1:43:14
Speaker 1: touched him. What I think the toughest thing is when
1:43:15
Speaker 1: something goes wrong, how does he respond to it? Not
1:43:19
Speaker 1: just the game, but in the game. And he's an
1:43:23
Speaker 1: overseeres not a guy that's gonna call plays on either
1:43:26
Speaker 1: side of the ball, So how he responds to the
1:43:29
Speaker 1: mistakes and and and that kind of thing is what
1:43:32
Speaker 1: I want to see. And then in the fourth quarter,
1:43:35
Speaker 1: the clock management is vital and it's a different clock management,
1:43:39
Speaker 1: so I think that he's got to be prepared for
1:43:41
Speaker 1: that as well. But again, how much of that actual
1:43:44
Speaker 1: stuff is he going to be doing, because he didn't
1:43:47
Speaker 1: do a lot of it even even in Ohio State
1:43:50
Speaker 1: and the clock manager, Yeah, manager, I think that's the
1:43:55
Speaker 1: biggest thing. Fourth quarter the game didn't seem like he
1:43:58
Speaker 1: goes much faster because you don't stop on every first down,
1:44:01
Speaker 1: especially at the end. And so just that managing the clock,
1:44:04
Speaker 1: you have a two minute warning, you don't have that college.
1:44:07
Speaker 1: The good news, he'll have someone in his ear from
1:44:10
Speaker 1: the booth giving him all the situation, all different options
1:44:13
Speaker 1: of what to do. He'll make the final call. But
1:44:14
Speaker 1: I think that's the biggest thing. Other than that, I
1:44:16
Speaker 1: think it's all right. Let's move along to another question.
1:44:22
Speaker 1: We've got a couple left here on Jaguars Happy Hour.
1:44:24
Speaker 1: This is and because she won to just don't try Tony.
1:44:32
Speaker 1: Is there a difference in blocking for a rookie versus
1:44:35
Speaker 1: a season vet and what can Trevor do to make
1:44:38
Speaker 1: life easier for his offensive line being good in the pocket.
1:44:42
Speaker 1: The biggest difference is I'm not worried about the season.
1:44:44
Speaker 1: Better rookie, because there's seasoned vets who are all over
1:44:47
Speaker 1: the place and terrible in the pocket, running around like madman.
1:44:50
Speaker 1: What makes it easy for an offensive line is a
1:44:52
Speaker 1: good guy guy who's good in the pocket. That's why
1:44:54
Speaker 1: guys like Tom Brady through Brees, Peyton Manning are the
1:44:57
Speaker 1: greatest of all times because they can work the pocket.
1:45:00
Speaker 1: I mean, you go down the list of guys who
1:45:02
Speaker 1: you know. It's why Patrick Homes Frankly, he's one of
1:45:04
Speaker 1: the harder guys to bought for. I think because he's
1:45:06
Speaker 1: all over the place, down he's so didn't counted. He
1:45:07
Speaker 1: gets away with it, and you know so at the
1:45:10
Speaker 1: end of the day, it's about winning. And so I'd
1:45:12
Speaker 1: love to play for Patrick Mahomes, but he'd make your
1:45:14
Speaker 1: job harder. I've talked to Schwartz the right tackle. Did
1:45:17
Speaker 1: you never know where he's gonna be Half the time
1:45:18
Speaker 1: he's backing up running around. Now he can play it
1:45:21
Speaker 1: with his you know, right rist fifty sixty yards, we
1:45:26
Speaker 1: can get away with it. But being good in the pockets,
1:45:28
Speaker 1: step up when you need to, you know, move, don't
1:45:30
Speaker 1: get jumpy. Flight movements will buy you time and that
1:45:34
Speaker 1: helps the offensive line. There's nothing that an offensive lineman
1:45:37
Speaker 1: hates more. And I know you hated it because Brunell
1:45:40
Speaker 1: did it to you a couple of times when they
1:45:42
Speaker 1: fail out. The drift, the drifts and drift and you're
1:45:47
Speaker 1: pushing the guy out there and he he puts them
1:45:49
Speaker 1: into your right into it sack. That was notorious for
1:45:55
Speaker 1: the left slide. The left slide. I mean he was
1:45:57
Speaker 1: always drifted towards you too. Go get out here, left hander.
1:46:05
Speaker 1: That's a natural way to run first. Yeah, well, yeah,
1:46:08
Speaker 1: just stay in the pardet. It's the slide drill. Yeah,
1:46:14
Speaker 1: the pocket is there, and if it's there, navigate the pocket,
1:46:18
Speaker 1: don't leave it. That's why Dan Marino couldn't move at all.
1:46:22
Speaker 1: But you knew how to navigate the da pocket. Tom
1:46:24
Speaker 1: Brady doesn't move at all. He knows how to navigate
1:46:26
Speaker 1: the pocket. Eight manning you how to navigate the pocket.
1:46:29
Speaker 1: Navigate the pocket. That's the key to playing great quarterback.
1:46:32
Speaker 1: And I think Lawrence has that. So let him stay
1:46:35
Speaker 1: there and navigate the pocket. You're having our social media
1:46:39
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1:46:42
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1:46:45
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Speaker 1: the home stretch on Labor Day j P Shadrick, Pete
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Speaker 1: Frisco and Tony Boselli. We did have one more social
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Speaker 1: media question to get to as we wrap up the
1:50:28
Speaker 1: social media part of the program, it will lead us
1:50:31
Speaker 1: to our next topic of conversation. That is the win
1:50:36
Speaker 1: lost total at cf Zellers asking what do each of
1:50:39
Speaker 1: you think of our division record at the end of
1:50:42
Speaker 1: the year. So that leads us, guys into a game
1:50:46
Speaker 1: by game. It's our tradition unlike any other on Jaguars
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Speaker 1: Happy Hour where you two pick the win lost total
1:50:54
Speaker 1: before the seat. So who would like to go first?
1:50:56
Speaker 1: I'll pick, I'll say the games, and then you guys
1:50:59
Speaker 1: both will um say what you're thinking is So we
1:51:03
Speaker 1: answered the social media answered the social media question first.
1:51:06
Speaker 1: I think the Jags of three and three in the
1:51:08
Speaker 1: division this year. Okay, Pete, I don't see that, but no,
1:51:14
Speaker 1: when one or two in the division six and oh
1:51:17
Speaker 1: six and oh week one at Houston. Pete, when when
1:51:25
Speaker 1: week to home against Denver Tony. What are you talking about?
1:51:31
Speaker 1: We do this every year. Hey, I don't care what
1:51:33
Speaker 1: the record ends up being when I pick it, because
1:51:35
Speaker 1: it's all about next year anyways. But so l okay
1:51:40
Speaker 1: l for Pete ton okay. A week three home against
1:51:44
Speaker 1: Arizona loss. When Week four at Cincinnati on a Thursday night,
1:51:53
Speaker 1: when when but Tony hasn't three and one, Tony's got
1:51:57
Speaker 1: a four four. It's a good first quarter of the season.
1:52:02
Speaker 1: Home against Tennessee October loss. When home against the Dolphins
1:52:09
Speaker 1: but at the totten Otspur Stadium in London, week six loss,
1:52:17
Speaker 1: bye week, They'll win that. And then October one at
1:52:21
Speaker 1: Seattle l law got him five and one, He's got
1:52:28
Speaker 1: him six and one right now. And then home against
1:52:33
Speaker 1: the Bills loss. When week ten at Indy lost. When
1:52:46
Speaker 1: Week eleven home against the forty Niners loss, that's a
1:52:51
Speaker 1: that's an early body clock game for San Francisco. It's
1:52:54
Speaker 1: a one o'clock Eastern time game. Peach. I don't care
1:52:56
Speaker 1: if it's home against the falconsay it out home against
1:53:07
Speaker 1: the Falcons. That could be a win. That could be
1:53:10
Speaker 1: a win. I'll give him that one, Tony. I'm guessing
1:53:12
Speaker 1: you're going win week thirteen at the l a Rams
1:53:19
Speaker 1: loss loss, Week fourteen at the Titans loss Tony, you're
1:53:29
Speaker 1: doing a loss on that one. Yeah, they haven't won
1:53:31
Speaker 1: there since Obama was president. So the Texans week fifteen,
1:53:36
Speaker 1: when at the Jets? When when at the Patriots week seventeen?
1:53:50
Speaker 1: And then home against the Colts in week eighteen? What
1:53:55
Speaker 1: do you have? Three, four, five, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen,
1:54:04
Speaker 1: and three Prisco is one two, three four five wins?
1:54:14
Speaker 1: That's and so who do you think record will be closer? Great? Listen,
1:54:23
Speaker 1: I didn't want to do this. I don't if you're
1:54:25
Speaker 1: asking me if I end up like, bet my life
1:54:28
Speaker 1: on it. I think this is a five to seven
1:54:30
Speaker 1: win team. I've been I started off before the preseason,
1:54:34
Speaker 1: I said sixty eight. After the preseason camp, I was
1:54:37
Speaker 1: like four to six looking at the roster and what
1:54:40
Speaker 1: they did. I think the five to seven win team
1:54:42
Speaker 1: if I'm being like the same way, all joking aside,
1:54:46
Speaker 1: I didn't want to pick the game because I don't
1:54:48
Speaker 1: know which ones are gonna literally lose. Um and injuries
1:54:51
Speaker 1: have a lot to do with it. But I think
1:54:52
Speaker 1: the team and the best news. I think at the
1:54:55
Speaker 1: end of this year, everyone's gonna be excited because we're like,
1:54:58
Speaker 1: oh my, we got the core back pieces around them,
1:55:01
Speaker 1: we have the coaching staff, like we are ready to
1:55:03
Speaker 1: Openpete and and next year's coming, so they'll be excited.
1:55:08
Speaker 1: I think, So don't I take five and seven? I think.
1:55:15
Speaker 1: But I'm with you, though, Tony is like I started,
1:55:18
Speaker 1: I thought they might win six to eight, maybe pushed
1:55:21
Speaker 1: in December, play meaningful game. And as I watched them
1:55:24
Speaker 1: through preseason and Solman camp and you know, watched how
1:55:27
Speaker 1: the team, Caleb and Jason didn't do anything, a lot
1:55:30
Speaker 1: of little things that I needed to see, I moved
1:55:32
Speaker 1: it down to five to seven, and it wouldn't shock
1:55:35
Speaker 1: me if it was lower, but it was. I gave
1:55:38
Speaker 1: him a couple of wins that I'm like, yeah, I
1:55:40
Speaker 1: don't know, Like here, you know what the thing with
1:55:43
Speaker 1: me is spinning this opening games. I think it's a
1:55:46
Speaker 1: big deal because, I mean, you lose this opening game.
1:55:49
Speaker 1: I think that Denver game is really hard because I
1:55:50
Speaker 1: think that Denver defense is good, and you lose this
1:55:53
Speaker 1: opening game. That's all of a sudden, a sixteen game
1:55:56
Speaker 1: losing skid for this organization to the guys that are back.
1:55:59
Speaker 1: But uh yeah, carry over though. And I don't know
1:56:03
Speaker 1: how good Ariztona is, but I think is pretty good.
1:56:07
Speaker 1: Arizon is gonna play Tennessee tough this week. You watch, well,
1:56:10
Speaker 1: I think, I think Natty on a Thursday night. It's
1:56:12
Speaker 1: no easy game. There's not There's not a guaranteed win
1:56:16
Speaker 1: on the entire schedule except maybe Houston at home maybe
1:56:20
Speaker 1: by then. But but again, when you look at these schedules,
1:56:25
Speaker 1: things change, Quarterbacks get hurt. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
1:56:30
Speaker 1: But but this is it's a building process, and that's
1:56:33
Speaker 1: why I'm trying to be the voice of reason as
1:56:37
Speaker 1: the guy who's looking the next year. This year is
1:56:41
Speaker 1: about building it to next year. We don't all say that,
1:56:47
Speaker 1: but that's the reality of this. This year for me
1:56:49
Speaker 1: is obvious. It's always about wins and Lawson's it's what matters.
1:56:52
Speaker 1: That's why you play the game. I mean. But with
1:56:55
Speaker 1: that said, the big picture, it's about one thing for me,
1:56:57
Speaker 1: only one thing. Development of that quarterback. Yep, that's all
1:57:00
Speaker 1: that mattered. That is all that at the end of
1:57:03
Speaker 1: the year, if he is developed and he is taking
1:57:06
Speaker 1: the path and we all believe he's going to be
1:57:09
Speaker 1: all will be right in the world. Yep, absolutely, Hey JP,
1:57:13
Speaker 1: real quick though, you do realize that the team ripped
1:57:15
Speaker 1: off like a couple but upsets and they're like at
1:57:18
Speaker 1: six and two at one point, Like I told you,
1:57:24
Speaker 1: play the tape. Play the tape. Three, play the tape, Joe,
1:57:31
Speaker 1: and we have to play the second part of it
1:57:33
Speaker 1: where he amended it. Separate, keep him separate. Put that.
1:57:40
Speaker 1: I'll put that on Twitter, Tony Bazell. Check and three
1:57:45
Speaker 1: you want me to put that out? No, it's already
1:57:48
Speaker 1: out there. This is screaming right now. What are you
1:57:50
Speaker 1: talking about? Listen, I told you they want to do it.
1:57:54
Speaker 1: I don't like doing that. I think there and all
1:57:57
Speaker 1: that matters is quarterback development. That's all matters. All right,
1:58:00
Speaker 1: we've got inside two minutes here. Let's go around the
1:58:03
Speaker 1: league quickly. We'll make that one point today. And Tony,
1:58:06
Speaker 1: you touched on Tom Brady's comments about how the game
1:58:09
Speaker 1: and the officiating around the game has maybe changed the
1:58:13
Speaker 1: game so it's an easier game to play today. I'm
1:58:17
Speaker 1: not saying it's not physical, and I say the guys
1:58:18
Speaker 1: are on top. I will never say that tough, physical game.
1:58:21
Speaker 1: It's an easier game to play offensively, and you can
1:58:25
Speaker 1: take risks that you would have never taken When I
1:58:27
Speaker 1: played the game, guys would have got killed through the
1:58:30
Speaker 1: ball where they throw it nowadays, and it was it
1:58:32
Speaker 1: was just a more physical game. It was a different game.
1:58:35
Speaker 1: And the trenches too. Yes, it's still a great game.
1:58:40
Speaker 1: It's still takes this tough man to play this game.
1:58:42
Speaker 1: It's just different. This is not old guy Tom Brady
1:58:45
Speaker 1: said it perfectly. Go with the man. I agree with,
1:58:48
Speaker 1: I agree, you have it. Those were some comments earlier
1:58:53
Speaker 1: this past week from the goat Tom Brady. What a
1:58:57
Speaker 1: show it's been today on Labor Day. Who's who out tonight?
1:59:00
Speaker 1: Old Mr Louisville Pete. It'll be a tight game, but
1:59:04
Speaker 1: I'll take I think Old Miss will find a way
1:59:06
Speaker 1: to win the game. They don't have the coach though,
1:59:07
Speaker 1: No lady, Yeah, and that to play eat the play car.
1:59:11
Speaker 1: I'm going I'm rooting roll Miss. I'm leaning on Louisville
1:59:14
Speaker 1: because no skifting call play. Why are you miss? Because
1:59:18
Speaker 1: I like Lene from when he was a graduates for
1:59:26
Speaker 1: a very short time. That's to tell him to selling
1:59:29
Speaker 1: me Frisco. I'm j P. Shadrick will catch you next time.
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