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Defining Your Legacy w/ Joe Pellegrino · Something Extra

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  Lisa Nichols: I'm excited to have Joe Pellegrino on the show today.
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  Lisa Nichols: Joe is the founder and president of Legacy Minded Ministries and not
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  Lisa Nichols: just an average Joe.
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  Lisa Nichols: Well, Joe Pellegrino, welcome to the Something Extra podcast.
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  Lisa Nichols: I am so delighted that we were able to make this work today.
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  Joe Pellegrino: Lisa, I'm so excited to be here.
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  Lisa Nichols: It's gonna be fun.
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  Lisa Nichols: I you are just you are filled with so much wisdom, and I hope
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  Lisa Nichols: that we're just gonna get the tip of the iceberg.
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  Lisa Nichols: But what my hope is, Joe, that people will dig in further after
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  Lisa Nichols: this podcast and learn more.
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  Lisa Nichols: I mean, you've written eight books.
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  Lisa Nichols: You're doing so many different things.
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  Lisa Nichols: So there's no way we're gonna cover all of that, but I wanna get
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  Lisa Nichols: through, you know, as much as we can.
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  Lisa Nichols: I have to give a shout out to our mutual friend, Jim Bechtold.
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  Joe Pellegrino: Jim.
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  Lisa Nichols: Yay, Jim Bechtold.
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  Lisa Nichols: We love you, Jim.
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  Lisa Nichols: Jim is the one that connected us and said the two of you need
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  Lisa Nichols: to know one another, so I am grateful for him.
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  Lisa Nichols: But let me just read just a little bit, about your background for
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  Lisa Nichols: our listeners, and then we're gonna get into all kinds of things.
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  Lisa Nichols: But Joe Pellegrino is a men's pastor, author, speaker,
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  Lisa Nichols: certified Maxwell leadership trainer, consultant, entrepreneur, and you were also
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  Lisa Nichols: a chaplain for baseball, for the jackals.
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  Lisa Nichols: Right?
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  Lisa Nichols: You are the founder and president of Legacy Minded Ministries, which I really wanna
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  Lisa Nichols: dig into.
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  Lisa Nichols: The mission is to transform lives by engaging, encouraging, and equipping
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  Lisa Nichols: men to build Christ centered legacies.
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  Lisa Nichols: Joe also leads not just the average Joe, providing coaching, innovative
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  Lisa Nichols: consulting services to individuals and businesses.
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  Lisa Nichols: You've been featured on Fox News, TBN, numerous national radio
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  Lisa Nichols: programs, Focus on the Family.
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  Lisa Nichols: We love Focus on the Family.
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  Lisa Nichols: Family Life Radio.
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  Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
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  Lisa Nichols: So there there's a lot to you, Joe.
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  Lisa Nichols: And like I said, we're gonna try to get into it.
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  Lisa Nichols: But, you know, before we get into everything, why don't you because I think
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  Lisa Nichols: you grew up, correct, in New Jersey.
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  Lisa Nichols: Is that right?
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  Lisa Nichols: Yes.
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  Lisa Nichols: Take us back.
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  Lisa Nichols: What was life like, early life like for you?
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  Lisa Nichols: What did you like to do as a little boy?
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  Lisa Nichols: Tell me about your family, your, family origin.
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  Joe Pellegrino: Well, I grew up in an Italian family with, four sisters,
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  Joe Pellegrino: and it was a little bit different kind of an Italian family.
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  Joe Pellegrino: Normally, their their hugs and kisses and all that kind of stuff, and I
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  Joe Pellegrino: really didn't experience a lot of that growing up.
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  Joe Pellegrino: So as the only boy, it was it was a little bit challenging.
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  Joe Pellegrino: And I was very lonely as a kid.
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  Joe Pellegrino: I had a lot of issues that I dealt with.
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  Joe Pellegrino: And, you know, I recognized that it was really nice to have friends,
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  Joe Pellegrino: but I didn't have real friends.
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  Joe Pellegrino: And I I grew up in a world, my own world,
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  Joe Pellegrino: where because I couldn't be the person I wanted to be, I made up
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  Joe Pellegrino: a whole thing in my head about who I was.
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  Joe Pellegrino: And and, Lisa, one of the great challenges with that is when you tell
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  Joe Pellegrino: so many lies, you start believing them.
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  Joe Pellegrino: So to this day, I don't know what actually transpired in my youth
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  Joe Pellegrino: because I had this whole this this whole dream life.
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  Joe Pellegrino: Right?
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  Joe Pellegrino: And it just wasn't true.
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  Joe Pellegrino: So I have to always go to my sister and say, well, did that
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  Joe Pellegrino: really happen?
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  Joe Pellegrino: Or did that really happen?
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  Joe Pellegrino: And it's really it's it's kind of upsetting, but it's it's truth.
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  Joe Pellegrino: It's it's what I was.
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  Lisa Nichols: It's truth, and I think it's more common than we think.
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  Joe Pellegrino: Mhmm.
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  Lisa Nichols: Because I've known people that have struggled with the same thing.
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  Lisa Nichols: And, where were you in the birth order?
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  Lisa Nichols: Were you the baby, or where were you?
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  Joe Pellegrino: No.
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  Joe Pellegrino: I was the fourth.
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  Joe Pellegrino: Actually, my three older sisters are fifteen, eleven, and eight years older than
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  Joe Pellegrino: me.
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  Joe Pellegrino: We were I was not supposed to happen, nor was my sister who came
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  Joe Pellegrino: literally right after me.
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  Joe Pellegrino: So I was not supposed to happen.
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  Joe Pellegrino: And and it's funny because when I was born, my father
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  Joe Pellegrino: made people wear masks around me, and they called me baby Jesus because he
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  Joe Pellegrino: finally got a boy.
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  Joe Pellegrino: You know?
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  Joe Pellegrino: And it was, you know, and and he was an older man at the
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  Joe Pellegrino: time.
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  Joe Pellegrino: He was forty two, which today, we wouldn't consider that old for a for
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  Joe Pellegrino: a dad.
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  Joe Pellegrino: But back then, you know, in sixty two, it was.
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  Joe Pellegrino: It was very, very different.
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  Joe Pellegrino: And and I grew up with a dad who who loved me and certainly
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  Joe Pellegrino: took care of me, but he really wasn't a great teaching dad, if you
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  Joe Pellegrino: know what I mean.
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  Joe Pellegrino: He just wasn't really there.
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  Joe Pellegrino: And, so, you know, I never played ball with him that I recall.
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  Joe Pellegrino: It it was it was just a little bit of a disconnect.
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  Joe Pellegrino: And and and when you don't have that connection with your dad, you generally
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  Joe Pellegrino: look for it in other areas.
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  Lisa Nichols: Mhmm.
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  Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
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  Lisa Nichols: Well, I was just I was thinking to myself, where were you in the
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  Lisa Nichols: birth order?
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  Lisa Nichols: Because you really had four moms, I bet.
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  Lisa Nichols: Your older sisters were probably like moms too.
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  Lisa Nichols: Right?
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  Joe Pellegrino: One of them, probably.
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  Joe Pellegrino: Yeah.
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  Joe Pellegrino: Not the other ones.
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  Joe Pellegrino: It it was kinda like two different families, Lisa.
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  Joe Pellegrino: I mean, you know, that my three sisters and when that we talk, it
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  Joe Pellegrino: seems like they had different parenting than my me and my younger sister.
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  Joe Pellegrino: And it's like, when they tell me about my parents, I'm like, really?
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  Joe Pellegrino: But that's what they experienced.
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  Joe Pellegrino: You know?
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  Joe Pellegrino: So it was literally two different families because most of the time, my older
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  Joe Pellegrino: sisters weren't in the house with me.
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  Lisa Nichols: Right.
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  Lisa Nichols: Makes sense.
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  Lisa Nichols: It makes sense.
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  Lisa Nichols: Well, I know that you started your career, like, in publishing.
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  Lisa Nichols: You know?
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  Lisa Nichols: How did that, like, shape Yeah.
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  Lisa Nichols: And, of course, now you're, you know, you're an author.
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  Lisa Nichols: We've talked about that.
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  Lisa Nichols: But, you know, how did that shape, your approach to ministry later on?
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  Joe Pellegrino: Actually, I started as an accountant.
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  Joe Pellegrino: I was a staff accountant when I came out of college.
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  Joe Pellegrino: Okay.
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  Joe Pellegrino: I but I was always I always had the heart of an entrepreneur.
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  Joe Pellegrino: So I would come in two hours early to that company, and they had
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  Joe Pellegrino: this com this this thing it was called the an IBM computer.
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  Joe Pellegrino: And this IBM computer had this thing called Lotus one two three on it.
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  Joe Pellegrino: And I had failed computers three times in college, you know, Fortran
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  Joe Pellegrino: and all that kind of stuff.
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  Joe Pellegrino: But I figured if I come in and I break this thing, nobody's gonna
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  Joe Pellegrino: know because nobody's there.
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  Joe Pellegrino: But I ended up becoming proficient at it, and I rewrote a lot of
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  Joe Pellegrino: the management reports.
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  Joe Pellegrino: And I got two promotions before anybody ever got one promotion
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  Joe Pellegrino: in company history, and it was a billion dollar company at the time.
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  Joe Pellegrino: So I learned that and and that I be became in love with computers,
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  Joe Pellegrino: and I realized I need to get out of here and start getting some
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  Joe Pellegrino: real world experience understanding the business world.
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  Joe Pellegrino: So after two years of being a staff accountant and achieving what I could,
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  Joe Pellegrino: I went up to small companies.
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  Joe Pellegrino: And I met a guy who became my mentor, a man who was ten
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  Joe Pellegrino: years older than me.
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  Joe Pellegrino: And what he would do is he literally left each job that I went
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  Joe Pellegrino: to six months after I got there, and he would take me with me.
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  Joe Pellegrino: He he took me with him, and each time I got a huge raise.
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  Joe Pellegrino: So at the age of twenty seven, I'm making a lot of money, and
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  Joe Pellegrino: I'm learning.
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  Joe Pellegrino: And that's what then had me go on my own, and I was
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  Joe Pellegrino: ill equipped to go on my own when I did.
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  Joe Pellegrino: I made so many mistakes.
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  Joe Pellegrino: I was broke.
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  Joe Pellegrino: I had a wife and a baby, and I didn't know what to do.
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  Joe Pellegrino: And that's when I met a friend who got me in the publishing world.
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  Lisa Nichols: Ah, okay.
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  Lisa Nichols: Well, I'm glad that you I'm glad that you told me about that.
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  Lisa Nichols: That so you you finally did I mean, not discounting
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  Lisa Nichols: your dad, but you finally did have a man that came along and taught
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  Lisa Nichols: you.
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  Joe Pellegrino: Yes.
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  Joe Pellegrino: I did.
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  Joe Pellegrino: And my wife my wife said, yeah, she asked me, why are you
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  Joe Pellegrino: why are all your friends ten years older than you?
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  Joe Pellegrino: And I said, it's very simple.
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  Joe Pellegrino: Because they walk down the roads that I'm gonna walk, and I wanna know
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  Joe Pellegrino: all the potholes, all the cracks that I need to avoid.
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  Joe Pellegrino: And I can't do it with my contemporaries.
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  Joe Pellegrino: I can only do it with those who have walked that road, and and
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  Joe Pellegrino: that's really that really changed everything for me.
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  Lisa Nichols: That, that's powerful.
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  Lisa Nichols: That's powerful.
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  Lisa Nichols: We we do need to have those people in our life that are going
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  Lisa Nichols: to be kind of I've got a friend, Jeremy Kubitec, and he says, you
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  Lisa Nichols: need Sherpas.
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  Lisa Nichols: You need Sherpas in your life, you know, that are gonna kinda lead and
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  Lisa Nichols: guide you.
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  Lisa Nichols: That should give people hope.
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  Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
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  Lisa Nichols: Because you said you'd failed every computer class, but you learned it.
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  Lisa Nichols: You figured it out.
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  Lisa Nichols: So, you know, we can move the needle on that.
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  Lisa Nichols: So, Joe, you describe yourself as a Dash enhancer.
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  Lisa Nichols: I absolutely love that because and explain
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  Lisa Nichols: I mean, I know what it is, but explain what you mean by that
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  Lisa Nichols: to the listeners.
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  Joe Pellegrino: There are two dates that are the same for every person.
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  Joe Pellegrino: Not the not the calendar date, but a birth date and a death date.
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  Joe Pellegrino: Those are two days in our lives.
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  Joe Pellegrino: Right?
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  Joe Pellegrino: We cannot have any say in the birth date, and ninety nine
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  Joe Pellegrino: point nine percent of us don't have any say in our death date.
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  Joe Pellegrino: However, there is a dash that separates those two, and that represents
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  Joe Pellegrino: the life lived by that particular person.
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  Joe Pellegrino: What the lord has really shown me is that he has raised me up
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  Joe Pellegrino: to be what I believe is a dash enhancer, which means
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  Joe Pellegrino: that I need to be able to affect in a positive way
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  Joe Pellegrino: the dash of all people that come into my view.
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  Joe Pellegrino: Anybody that is requiring my assistance, I am required
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  Joe Pellegrino: to enhance their dash.
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  Joe Pellegrino: Point them in the right direction,
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  Joe Pellegrino: encourage them, teach them, mentor them, whatever that might be.
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  Joe Pellegrino: But that dash means a lot to me because that dash is not
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  Joe Pellegrino: only that person's dash, that dash will affect generations to
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  Joe Pellegrino: come.
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  Joe Pellegrino: So if transition and changes need to happen right now,
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  Joe Pellegrino: that's where somebody like me and and I know it's somebody like you
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  Joe Pellegrino: as well.
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  Joe Pellegrino: Be a dash enhancer because it is taking focus off of
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  Joe Pellegrino: self and it's putting it on others.
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  Joe Pellegrino: But it also it also trains you that leadership
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  Joe Pellegrino: is essential, but leadership starts with self leadership.
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  Joe Pellegrino: You need to lead yourself well.
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  Joe Pellegrino: And when you do and you're self aware, you recognize that it's not
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  Joe Pellegrino: about you.
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  Joe Pellegrino: And I'm sorry to say that, but it's not about you.
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  Joe Pellegrino: It's about everybody else who comes into
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  Joe Pellegrino: your sphere of influence.
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  Joe Pellegrino: And it is important that our life touches another life.
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  Lisa Nichols: That is gold.
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  Lisa Nichols: That is gold.
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  Lisa Nichols: And I completely subscribe to that same idea
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  Lisa Nichols: that we are in leadership.
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  Lisa Nichols: And I say leadership is really stewardship.
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  Lisa Nichols: And it's stewarding, like in your case, helping steward
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  Lisa Nichols: that dash and helping people maximize that dash.
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  Lisa Nichols: And, you know, we're gonna really talk about that because I I love your
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  Lisa Nichols: five and a half questions book.
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  Lisa Nichols: And, you know, I feel like that that is, you know, a great place
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  Lisa Nichols: to start.
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  Lisa Nichols: But we'll we'll talk about that.
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  Lisa Nichols: So I know that you founded Legacy Minded Men in
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  Lisa Nichols: two thousand nine.
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  Lisa Nichols: Tell me about that.
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  Joe Pellegrino: So Legacy Minded Men was founded because
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  Joe Pellegrino: I my wife and I were operating a foundation called Adopt A Child, which
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  Joe Pellegrino: provided abused children in New Jersey with gifts during Christmas.
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  Joe Pellegrino: And we would arrange for I owned a newspaper at the time, so we
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  Joe Pellegrino: put it on the front page, and we asked people to adopt kids.
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  Joe Pellegrino: And the organization that we were working with gave us the name of the
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  Joe Pellegrino: child, the age of the child, and their Christmas wish.
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  Joe Pellegrino: And these people would adopt them for the Christmas season, wrap the gifts, label
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  Joe Pellegrino: them properly, and then every Saturday in the month of November, people would bring
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  Joe Pellegrino: those gifts.
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  Joe Pellegrino: And we had cars.
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  Joe Pellegrino: It was unbelievable.
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  Joe Pellegrino: In, eleven years, we provided twenty thousand children with all the over fifty
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  Joe Pellegrino: thousand gifts out of our home.
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  Joe Pellegrino: We were the largest donor in the state of New Jersey.
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  Joe Pellegrino: We were the volunteers of the year in the state of New Jersey in
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  Joe Pellegrino: the year two thousand, yet I felt unfulfilled.
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  Joe Pellegrino: And I believe the Lord started calling me and me saying, Joe, men need
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  Joe Pellegrino: help.
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  Joe Pellegrino: You need help.
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  Joe Pellegrino: You need to to surround yourself with the right men.
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  Joe Pellegrino: Start this.
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  Joe Pellegrino: And I launched Legacy Minded Men.
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  Joe Pellegrino: And Legacy Minded Men launched, as you mentioned, in June of two thousand and
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  Joe Pellegrino: nine.
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  Joe Pellegrino: We are now in forty one countries.
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  Joe Pellegrino: We are content creators and providers.
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  Joe Pellegrino: And legacy minded men was then birthed a year ago
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  Joe Pellegrino: into legacy minded ministries because we felt that it wasn't just about
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  Joe Pellegrino: the men.
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  Joe Pellegrino: We were catering to men.
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  Joe Pellegrino: We were educating men on what it means to be a Christ centered legacy
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  Joe Pellegrino: minded man.
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  Joe Pellegrino: But at the same time, they have wives, they have children, they have brothers,
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  Joe Pellegrino: they have sisters, whatever it might be.
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  Joe Pellegrino: And we did not wanna neglect them when they were coming to our site.
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  Joe Pellegrino: So we wanted to provide them with legacy minded everything.
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  Joe Pellegrino: Legacy minded women, legacy minded youth, legacy minded leaders, legacy minded
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  Joe Pellegrino: athletes, anything legacy minded that not only we
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  Joe Pellegrino: could do, but also teaming up because I believe in strategic partnerships, Lisa.
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  Joe Pellegrino: I believe in collaboration.
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  Joe Pellegrino: We don't all have the answers, but the body of Christ is all about
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  Joe Pellegrino: working together for the greater good of others.
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  Joe Pellegrino: And that's what legacy minded is.
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  Joe Pellegrino: So all of the legacy minded ministries have sub ministries, and
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  Joe Pellegrino: those sub ministries could be, you know, focused on the family for the for
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  Joe Pellegrino: legacy minded families, etcetera.
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  Joe Pellegrino: You you get it.
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  Joe Pellegrino: But the reality is we don't have to be the experts.
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  Joe Pellegrino: All we need to do is be the ones that are getting it out
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  Joe Pellegrino: there.
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  Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
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  Lisa Nichols: Kind of the the connector with all of that.
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  Lisa Nichols: Right?
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  Lisa Nichols: The connector.
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  Lisa Nichols: I love that.
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  Lisa Nichols: Well, let me ask you.
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  Lisa Nichols: Because you you'd said, you know, this, you know, get the mission
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  Lisa Nichols: of helping men living these, you know, Christ centered life.
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  Lisa Nichols: What do you think are some of those biggest challenges right now, that
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  Lisa Nichols: men face or you could say women too?
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  Lisa Nichols: I mean, either one.
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  Joe Pellegrino: I I think it's both men and women.
• 15:00
  Joe Pellegrino: We are going through the greatest identity crisis in world history.
• 15:06
  Joe Pellegrino: There is an identity thief out there who is stealing the true
• 15:10
  Joe Pellegrino: identities of people.
• 15:11
  Joe Pellegrino: And that's really why I wrote the book, The Five and a Half Questions
• 15:14
  Joe Pellegrino: Everyone Must Answer, because we've been indoctrinated to believe certain
• 15:18
  Joe Pellegrino: things about ourselves.
• 15:20
  Joe Pellegrino: We also have belief grafted from other people, meaning
• 15:24
  Joe Pellegrino: that we've we have taken on and adopted other people's belief systems
• 15:29
  Joe Pellegrino: as our own without ever putting them to the test.
• 15:32
  Joe Pellegrino: And at the end of the day, Lisa, the way I look at things,
• 15:35
  Joe Pellegrino: is our belief system, that which we believe about our existence, who
• 15:39
  Joe Pellegrino: we are, that is foundational to every single thing
• 15:43
  Joe Pellegrino: in our life.
• 15:44
  Joe Pellegrino: Every decision we will make is built and linked to
• 15:48
  Joe Pellegrino: that foundation.
• 15:49
  Joe Pellegrino: And if that foundation is being built on sinking
• 15:53
  Joe Pellegrino: sand, we are in trouble for the rest of our lives.
• 15:57
  Joe Pellegrino: Why don't we put to the test our belief system?
• 16:01
  Joe Pellegrino: And be to be very frank with you, I had to do this.
• 16:04
  Joe Pellegrino: And all I could find, if I may say so, is that Jesus Christ
• 16:08
  Joe Pellegrino: is the only way.
• 16:09
  Joe Pellegrino: He is exactly who he said, and that's the foundation I've chosen to build
• 16:13
  Joe Pellegrino: my life on and to share that good news.
• 16:16
  Joe Pellegrino: You know, people can accept or reject that.
• 16:18
  Joe Pellegrino: That's that's your that's that's their choice.
• 16:20
  Joe Pellegrino: Right.
• 16:20
  Joe Pellegrino: All I can do is what I believe I'm supposed to do.
• 16:23
  Joe Pellegrino: When you hear good news, you wanna share good news with people.
• 16:27
  Joe Pellegrino: That's what it means to love people.
• 16:28
  Joe Pellegrino: That's truly what it means to love people, is to let them know that
• 16:31
  Joe Pellegrino: if you step out on that curb, you're gonna get hit by that bus.
• 16:34
  Joe Pellegrino: Don't step on the curb.
• 16:35
  Joe Pellegrino: But it's your choice.
• 16:36
  Joe Pellegrino: It's your choice.
• 16:37
  Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
• 16:38
  Lisa Nichols: Well, it's your testimony.
• 16:40
  Lisa Nichols: Right?
• 16:40
  Lisa Nichols: It's your testimony, and you see how that's transformed your life.
• 16:44
  Lisa Nichols: Yes.
• 16:44
  Lisa Nichols: And, again, Joe, I just wanna say we have listeners of all face, and
• 16:48
  Lisa Nichols: you do not have to subscribe to that.
• 16:50
  Lisa Nichols: Joe's just telling us, you know, what has worked for him, and it has
• 16:54
  Lisa Nichols: worked.
• 16:54
  Lisa Nichols: And, he has found that to be his truth.
• 16:57
  Lisa Nichols: So I love that you shared that.
• 17:00
  Lisa Nichols: Well, let me ask you this, and I think that this is really important,
• 17:04
  Lisa Nichols: and this is probably legacy minded men.
• 17:06
  Lisa Nichols: I'm sure this is part of that, but accountability and community.
• 17:11
  Lisa Nichols: How what how does that play in, to, you know, this,
• 17:15
  Lisa Nichols: you know, spiritual transformation that you were, leading men through?
• 17:20
  Joe Pellegrino: Let me say it this way.
• 17:21
  Joe Pellegrino: Show me your friends, and I'll show you your future.
• 17:25
  Joe Pellegrino: The people that you surround yourself with,
• 17:28
  Joe Pellegrino: if you look at their lives, guess what?
• 17:32
  Joe Pellegrino: It's probably gonna be your life too.
• 17:34
  Joe Pellegrino: Now I wanna have a little caveat.
• 17:37
  Joe Pellegrino: Only if it's real, the real relationships.
• 17:39
  Joe Pellegrino: So I believe in the power of the inner circle.
• 17:42
  Joe Pellegrino: And the inner circle basically says, who I let into my inner circle are
• 17:46
  Joe Pellegrino: the people that I wanna learn from, what I wanna grow from.
• 17:48
  Joe Pellegrino: I want these people to be the people that actually push me forward to
• 17:52
  Joe Pellegrino: get to where I'm supposed to be.
• 17:54
  Joe Pellegrino: But in truth, so many of our relationships are well, they're crabs in
• 17:58
  Joe Pellegrino: a bucket.
• 17:58
  Joe Pellegrino: And what crabs in a bucket is if you put crabs in a bucket
• 18:02
  Joe Pellegrino: when you catch them, almost always, one will try to
• 18:06
  Joe Pellegrino: escape and the others will pull him back down.
• 18:09
  Joe Pellegrino: That's where most people fall short is by surrounding themselves
• 18:13
  Joe Pellegrino: with the wrong people, and these wrong people are holding them back.
• 18:16
  Joe Pellegrino: They're I talked earlier about the person that was ten years older than me
• 18:19
  Joe Pellegrino: so that I can learn.
• 18:20
  Joe Pellegrino: He genuinely wanted to see me grow and be all that I could be.
• 18:25
  Joe Pellegrino: And the reality is most of us are a jealous breed.
• 18:29
  Joe Pellegrino: We don't want people to succeed because then we get we have to look
• 18:32
  Joe Pellegrino: in the mirror and say, well, gee, I I guess I gotta work harder.
• 18:35
  Joe Pellegrino: I I don't wanna work harder.
• 18:36
  Joe Pellegrino: I'm so happy in my comfort zone.
• 18:38
  Joe Pellegrino: Well, guess what?
• 18:39
  Joe Pellegrino: Nothing great ever happens in a comfort zone.
• 18:41
  Joe Pellegrino: Maybe some relaxation, but that's it.
• 18:44
  Joe Pellegrino: We need to step out.
• 18:45
  Joe Pellegrino: We need to step out and be people of action.
• 18:48
  Joe Pellegrino: Not people of talk, but people of action, and that action needs to be
• 18:51
  Joe Pellegrino: based on our foundational beliefs, And those foundational beliefs better
• 18:55
  Joe Pellegrino: be tested.
• 18:57
  Lisa Nichols: Mhmm.
• 18:57
  Lisa Nichols: That's good.
• 18:58
  Lisa Nichols: That is so good.
• 18:59
  Lisa Nichols: Well, I kinda wanna move in because, like I said, you've written eight books.
• 19:03
  Lisa Nichols: And I wanna move into a few of these so that we can just
• 19:06
  Lisa Nichols: talk about it.
• 19:07
  Lisa Nichols: You've got Safe at Home.
• 19:08
  Lisa Nichols: That was your very first book.
• 19:09
  Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
• 19:10
  Lisa Nichols: Right?
• 19:10
  Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
• 19:11
  Lisa Nichols: And that was about baseball.
• 19:12
  Lisa Nichols: Right?
• 19:13
  Lisa Nichols: That was when you were
• 19:14
  Joe Pellegrino: a captain.
• 19:14
  Joe Pellegrino: Christian baseball players.
• 19:16
  Joe Pellegrino: Yeah.
• 19:16
  Joe Pellegrino: And, it was there's a a great quick story I've gotta tell because we're
• 19:20
  Joe Pellegrino: talking about we talked earlier about not quitting and persevering.
• 19:24
  Joe Pellegrino: I wanted to write a book about Christian baseball players, but I had two
• 19:28
  Joe Pellegrino: problems.
• 19:29
  Joe Pellegrino: I couldn't write.
• 19:29
  Joe Pellegrino: And number two, I didn't know any of the players.
• 19:31
  Joe Pellegrino: Well, I solved the couldn't write part by found finding a a coauthor who
• 19:35
  Joe Pellegrino: I still have not met to this day thirty some years later.
• 19:38
  Joe Pellegrino: But he did the writing.
• 19:39
  Joe Pellegrino: I did all the recordings of the players on cassette tape.
• 19:42
  Joe Pellegrino: But the the way I found about the players was this.
• 19:44
  Joe Pellegrino: It's amazing story.
• 19:46
  Joe Pellegrino: I I had a partner at the time who was a former Major League
• 19:49
  Joe Pellegrino: player, and he gave me something called the Major League Baseball Players Guide, which
• 19:53
  Joe Pellegrino: I consider to be the holy grail of baseball.
• 19:55
  Joe Pellegrino: It had everything a to z, and the first thing that was listed was
• 19:58
  Joe Pellegrino: baseball chapel.
• 20:00
  Joe Pellegrino: And I noticed it was in Bloomingdale, New Jersey, which was ten minutes from
• 20:04
  Joe Pellegrino: my house.
• 20:04
  Joe Pellegrino: I called the number, and the executive director's name was Dave Swanson.
• 20:08
  Joe Pellegrino: I said, hi, mister Swanson.
• 20:09
  Joe Pellegrino: My name is Joe Pellegrino.
• 20:10
  Joe Pellegrino: I love the Lord, and I wanna write a book about Christian baseball players.
• 20:13
  Joe Pellegrino: Can you help me?
• 20:14
  Joe Pellegrino: And he says, Joe, why don't you call me in three months?
• 20:18
  Joe Pellegrino: I look at the phone.
• 20:18
  Joe Pellegrino: I'm like, okay.
• 20:20
  Joe Pellegrino: I hang up.
• 20:20
  Joe Pellegrino: I call him in three months.
• 20:22
  Joe Pellegrino: Joe, why don't you call me in three months?
• 20:24
  Joe Pellegrino: I hang up.
• 20:24
  Joe Pellegrino: I call him back in three months.
• 20:26
  Joe Pellegrino: Joe, why don't you call me in three months?
• 20:28
  Joe Pellegrino: We are now one full year.
• 20:30
  Joe Pellegrino: One full year.
• 20:31
  Joe Pellegrino: And I said, I'm gonna call one more time.
• 20:33
  Joe Pellegrino: I call him up, and he says, Joe, meet me at the Kinlan Spa
• 20:36
  Joe Pellegrino: Diner, a diner down the street in twenty minutes.
• 20:39
  Joe Pellegrino: I ran upstairs, put a suit on, bolted out the door.
• 20:42
  Joe Pellegrino: I get to the front of the diner, and there's a six foot three
• 20:46
  Joe Pellegrino: bald man with a scowl on his face.
• 20:47
  Joe Pellegrino: And I said, mister Swanson.
• 20:49
  Joe Pellegrino: He simply nodded.
• 20:50
  Joe Pellegrino: He opened the door for me to go into the diner.
• 20:52
  Joe Pellegrino: And as I'm walking in, he hands me a piece of paper.
• 20:55
  Joe Pellegrino: He goes to the waitress.
• 20:56
  Joe Pellegrino: I quickly look on the paper.
• 20:57
  Joe Pellegrino: It was all the names of the Major League players who attended baseball chapel
• 21:02
  Joe Pellegrino: on a Sunday.
• 21:03
  Joe Pellegrino: We're walking to the table.
• 21:04
  Joe Pellegrino: I couldn't wait.
• 21:04
  Joe Pellegrino: I grabbed by the back of the shirt.
• 21:06
  Joe Pellegrino: I said, mister mister Swanson, why now?
• 21:08
  Joe Pellegrino: He said, Joe, sit down.
• 21:10
  Joe Pellegrino: My family owned Thomas English muffins.
• 21:12
  Joe Pellegrino: I was in charge of purchasing.
• 21:14
  Joe Pellegrino: I never bought the first time a salesman came.
• 21:17
  Joe Pellegrino: I never bought the second time.
• 21:18
  Joe Pellegrino: I never bought the third time.
• 21:20
  Joe Pellegrino: But he said if that guy persevered for that fourth time, he had a
• 21:23
  Joe Pellegrino: customer for life.
• 21:24
  Joe Pellegrino: You just did it.
• 21:26
  Joe Pellegrino: I would, wow.
• 21:27
  Lisa Nichols: Wow.
• 21:28
  Joe Pellegrino: That man became my surrogate father, my mentor.
• 21:31
  Joe Pellegrino: He got me involved in baseball chapel, and he introduced me to so many
• 21:35
  Joe Pellegrino: incredible people.
• 21:36
  Joe Pellegrino: And it was because I didn't quit.
• 21:39
  Joe Pellegrino: I persevered.
• 21:40
  Joe Pellegrino: And that's a message I keep telling everybody, don't quit.
• 21:44
  Joe Pellegrino: It's so easy to quit.
• 21:46
  Joe Pellegrino: It's so hard to persevere, but the it's so worth getting over that
• 21:50
  Joe Pellegrino: mountain.
• 21:51
  Joe Pellegrino: The climb may be tough, but it's so easy.
• 21:53
  Joe Pellegrino: It's so great to get over that mountain.
• 21:55
  Lisa Nichols: That is a great lesson.
• 21:58
  Lisa Nichols: Don't quit.
• 21:58
  Lisa Nichols: Just because if you had, if you'd said, okay, I guess he, you know,
• 22:02
  Lisa Nichols: really just does not wanna meet with me.
• 22:05
  Lisa Nichols: Goodness gracious.
• 22:06
  Lisa Nichols: That would have changed the trajectory of your life.
• 22:08
  Joe Pellegrino: I would not be speaking with you right now, Lisa.
• 22:10
  Lisa Nichols: Right.
• 22:11
  Joe Pellegrino: If that didn't happen, I promise you that.
• 22:13
  Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
• 22:14
  Lisa Nichols: I love that story.
• 22:15
  Lisa Nichols: Thank you so much for sharing that.
• 22:18
  Lisa Nichols: Well, I want to I wanna get into, the book five and a half
• 22:22
  Lisa Nichols: questions.
• 22:22
  Lisa Nichols: We've already, talked about this a little bit, but it's five and a half
• 22:26
  Lisa Nichols: questions everyone must answer, in search of purposeful
• 22:30
  Lisa Nichols: identity.
• 22:31
  Lisa Nichols: And, you know, I love this because you wrote it with your daughter, Jennifer
• 22:36
  Joe Pellegrino: Yes.
• 22:36
  Lisa Nichols: Too, which is really how how was that?
• 22:39
  Lisa Nichols: How special was that?
• 22:40
  Joe Pellegrino: She's a writer, and I had written the first book that was basically two
• 22:44
  Joe Pellegrino: Christian people.
• 22:45
  Joe Pellegrino: And then my daughter said, dad, you know, this this book will be far
• 22:48
  Joe Pellegrino: more effective if we just put it out for everybody.
• 22:51
  Joe Pellegrino: And she was right.
• 22:52
  Joe Pellegrino: And we ended up getting it into the worst school system in America, in
• 22:56
  Joe Pellegrino: Detroit.
• 22:57
  Joe Pellegrino: And it is for five years now being taught by two former NFL players
• 23:01
  Joe Pellegrino: and two former WNBA players very successfully.
• 23:04
  Joe Pellegrino: And it it just excites me because I listened to her.
• 23:06
  Joe Pellegrino: She also wrote a full curriculum for schools that's
• 23:10
  Joe Pellegrino: incredibly in-depth.
• 23:12
  Joe Pellegrino: And, again, it just makes kids ask these questions because
• 23:16
  Joe Pellegrino: when you're growing up, especially in middle school, you wanna know the answer to
• 23:20
  Joe Pellegrino: these questions.
• 23:21
  Joe Pellegrino: But if you don't ever ask yourself or more importantly, if you don't
• 23:25
  Joe Pellegrino: really dig in on these questions because I can I can give a surface
• 23:28
  Joe Pellegrino: answer to any question?
• 23:29
  Joe Pellegrino: Right, Lisa?
• 23:29
  Joe Pellegrino: But the reality is when you're serious about transformation, when you're
• 23:34
  Joe Pellegrino: serious about finding out who you really are and why you really are, you're
• 23:38
  Joe Pellegrino: gonna dig deep.
• 23:39
  Joe Pellegrino: And that's that's what we hope for in this book.
• 23:41
  Lisa Nichols: I love it.
• 23:42
  Lisa Nichols: I love it so much.
• 23:43
  Lisa Nichols: Well, you know, I'm just gonna run through these real quick.
• 23:46
  Lisa Nichols: But the five and a half questions, what are your strengths?
• 23:48
  Lisa Nichols: What are your weaknesses?
• 23:49
  Lisa Nichols: What are you passionate about?
• 23:51
  Lisa Nichols: What is your brand?
• 23:52
  Lisa Nichols: What do you believe?
• 23:53
  Lisa Nichols: And then the half question is why.
• 23:56
  Lisa Nichols: And then you've got purposeful identity.
• 23:58
  Lisa Nichols: You've got a lot of other chapters in here as well.
• 24:01
  Lisa Nichols: The power of attitude.
• 24:02
  Lisa Nichols: That's what you had is the power of attitude, not quitting, right, and the
• 24:05
  Lisa Nichols: persevering.
• 24:07
  Lisa Nichols: But, you know, I just think it's so good, Joe, and I've told you
• 24:10
  Lisa Nichols: offline.
• 24:11
  Lisa Nichols: What I love about this book is there are just tons of questions,
• 24:16
  Lisa Nichols: tons of questions all throughout the book.
• 24:18
  Lisa Nichols: And you and I had talked, and we're usually running we we
• 24:22
  Lisa Nichols: usually are running about two hundred miles an hour.
• 24:25
  Lisa Nichols: We never take the time to ask ourselves these questions.
• 24:28
  Lisa Nichols: And and other people may not be asking us these questions either.
• 24:31
  Lisa Nichols: So then That's right.
• 24:32
  Lisa Nichols: Right?
• 24:32
  Lisa Nichols: And I just I always say you gotta have a meeting with yourself every
• 24:35
  Lisa Nichols: now and then.
• 24:36
  Lisa Nichols: Yes.
• 24:37
  Lisa Nichols: And really kinda dig deep.
• 24:38
  Lisa Nichols: But, you know, how are you wired?
• 24:40
  Lisa Nichols: What drives you?
• 24:41
  Lisa Nichols: What do you really value?
• 24:43
  Lisa Nichols: What are your values?
• 24:43
  Lisa Nichols: I don't know that people really take the time to say, okay.
• 24:47
  Lisa Nichols: You know, is it faith?
• 24:48
  Lisa Nichols: Is it family?
• 24:49
  Lisa Nichols: Is it you know, what what are my values?
• 24:51
  Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
• 24:52
  Lisa Nichols: I love these,
• 24:55
  Lisa Nichols: on, the right soil and food,
• 24:59
  Lisa Nichols: what you're putting into your your mind.
• 25:01
  Lisa Nichols: You said, what are you reading?
• 25:03
  Lisa Nichols: What are you listening to?
• 25:04
  Lisa Nichols: What are you writing?
• 25:05
  Lisa Nichols: How are you spending your downtime?
• 25:07
  Lisa Nichols: What are you watching?
• 25:08
  Lisa Nichols: That's all really important.
• 25:10
  Lisa Nichols: Right?
• 25:10
  Lisa Nichols: Because it informs some of the answers to those questions, I think.
• 25:15
  Lisa Nichols: But you know what?
• 25:17
  Lisa Nichols: What?
• 25:18
  Lisa Nichols: Tell me about, like, the curriculum in the schools.
• 25:21
  Lisa Nichols: What are you guys seeing with the schools that are using this,
• 25:25
  Lisa Nichols: the curriculum that Jennifer wrote?
• 25:26
  Joe Pellegrino: Well, Jennifer actually was hired by a school to write the curriculum,
• 25:31
  Joe Pellegrino: so she was teaching and writing it at the same time.
• 25:34
  Joe Pellegrino: And the principal who sent me a lovely testimonial said, Joe, this is
• 25:38
  Joe Pellegrino: going to impact generations to come.
• 25:40
  Joe Pellegrino: And that's all I care about.
• 25:42
  Joe Pellegrino: Again, you know, it's so amazing how one life touches another.
• 25:46
  Joe Pellegrino: And John Maxwell said it best when somebody asked him.
• 25:49
  Joe Pellegrino: He said, you know, why do you write so many books?
• 25:51
  Joe Pellegrino: John asked somebody, why do you write so many books?
• 25:54
  Joe Pellegrino: And the person said, because I can touch lives that I'll never ever
• 25:59
  Joe Pellegrino: meet.
• 25:59
  Joe Pellegrino: I'll never meet these people, but I can touch them through my words.
• 26:03
  Joe Pellegrino: And that just resonates with me so much.
• 26:06
  Joe Pellegrino: And that's why it's so important to me to share these things and
• 26:10
  Joe Pellegrino: recognize that, you know what, my life does matter.
• 26:13
  Joe Pellegrino: Your life does matter.
• 26:14
  Joe Pellegrino: Lisa, you know your life matters because of what you're doing as well.
• 26:18
  Joe Pellegrino: The truth of the matter is everybody has greatness in them.
• 26:22
  Joe Pellegrino: It's how to pull that greatness out of you.
• 26:24
  Joe Pellegrino: That's where you need the help most of the time.
• 26:27
  Joe Pellegrino: That's where I needed the help and to find out who I really was.
• 26:31
  Joe Pellegrino: Purposeful identity.
• 26:32
  Joe Pellegrino: We all exist because we want purpose in life.
• 26:36
  Joe Pellegrino: When we're we have this giant hole in us that can't be filled because
• 26:39
  Joe Pellegrino: we don't have that purpose.
• 26:40
  Joe Pellegrino: We don't know who we are, and that's why the book was written.
• 26:43
  Joe Pellegrino: So the curriculum is simply designed to get people thinking,
• 26:48
  Joe Pellegrino: specifically kids, and get them thinking and asking questions.
• 26:52
  Lisa Nichols: I love it.
• 26:52
  Joe Pellegrino: That's a great thing.
• 26:53
  Lisa Nichols: I love it.
• 26:54
  Lisa Nichols: I love it.
• 26:55
  Lisa Nichols: And I'm so grateful that you're starting with kids because, you know, maybe they
• 26:58
  Lisa Nichols: won't get to be our age, Joe.
• 27:00
  Joe Pellegrino: That's right.
• 27:01
  Lisa Nichols: We're trying to figure it out.
• 27:02
  Lisa Nichols: Right?
• 27:02
  Joe Pellegrino: That's right.
• 27:03
  Lisa Nichols: Oh my goodness.
• 27:03
  Lisa Nichols: Well, I have a lot more than I wanna talk about, but we do
• 27:06
  Lisa Nichols: need to take a quick break, and we'll be right back on the Something
• 27:08
  Lisa Nichols: Extra podcast with Joe Pillegrino.
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• 27:41
  Lisa Nichols: Welcome back, everyone, to the Something Extra podcast with Joe Pellegrino.
• 27:44
  Lisa Nichols: We have just been having an amazing conversation.
• 27:47
  Lisa Nichols: Joe is so wise and has so much, inspiration to
• 27:51
  Lisa Nichols: to share with you guys, and I'm just I'm really excited about,
• 27:56
  Lisa Nichols: everything that you guys are gonna learn from this from this, episode here.
• 28:00
  Lisa Nichols: But Joe is a father and grandfather.
• 28:02
  Lisa Nichols: You got three grown children, right, and four grandchildren.
• 28:06
  Lisa Nichols: You what have you learned, Joe, about leaving a spiritual legacy for your family?
• 28:10
  Joe Pellegrino: I've learned what not to do.
• 28:13
  Joe Pellegrino: I've made so many mistakes.
• 28:15
  Joe Pellegrino: I've learned not what what not to do, but I could tell you this.
• 28:18
  Joe Pellegrino: You know, when we talk about a spiritual legacy, we have to first look
• 28:22
  Joe Pellegrino: at the word legacy, which is often misunderstood.
• 28:25
  Joe Pellegrino: Legacy, by definition, is anything that we that is bequeathed to somebody else,
• 28:29
  Joe Pellegrino: whether it be property or cash or whatever it might be.
• 28:31
  Joe Pellegrino: That's leaving something to someone.
• 28:35
  Joe Pellegrino: I like a better definition.
• 28:37
  Joe Pellegrino: I think a powerful legacy is not just what we leave to someone,
• 28:41
  Joe Pellegrino: but what we leave in someone.
• 28:43
  Joe Pellegrino: Here's why.
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  Joe Pellegrino: If I leave something to someone, whether it's a business or finances
• 28:49
  Joe Pellegrino: or whatever, it's known that in a generation and a half, it's gone.
• 28:53
  Joe Pellegrino: Why?
• 28:54
  Joe Pellegrino: Well, I believe it's because that person didn't really appreciate it.
• 28:57
  Joe Pellegrino: They didn't build it.
• 28:58
  Joe Pellegrino: They didn't they didn't sweat and toil.
• 29:00
  Joe Pellegrino: They simply enjoyed it.
• 29:01
  Joe Pellegrino: And, therefore, when you're enjoying something, a lot of times you don't steward it
• 29:05
  Joe Pellegrino: well, and you let it go.
• 29:06
  Joe Pellegrino: However, when you sow into somebody's legacy,
• 29:11
  Joe Pellegrino: real powerful legacy inside someone, it is generational.
• 29:15
  Joe Pellegrino: It changes the game, and that's where I wanna be.
• 29:19
  Joe Pellegrino: So I recognized at one point that I was not going down the right
• 29:23
  Joe Pellegrino: road.
• 29:23
  Joe Pellegrino: I was not the man that god built me to be, and I needed
• 29:26
  Joe Pellegrino: to change.
• 29:27
  Joe Pellegrino: And it wasn't easy.
• 29:28
  Joe Pellegrino: I like I said, I told so many lies when I was a kid
• 29:31
  Joe Pellegrino: that to this day, I don't know what actually happened.
• 29:34
  Joe Pellegrino: So when my life changed, my family, my my, you know,
• 29:38
  Joe Pellegrino: my my parents and my sisters, they didn't really believe that I was changing
• 29:42
  Joe Pellegrino: because I was such a I was a con man.
• 29:44
  Joe Pellegrino: I was a thief.
• 29:44
  Joe Pellegrino: I was a liar.
• 29:45
  Joe Pellegrino: I was a cheat.
• 29:46
  Joe Pellegrino: That's what I was.
• 29:48
  Joe Pellegrino: And now I'm this different guy, and and it took years for people
• 29:53
  Joe Pellegrino: to recognize that, well, maybe this isn't another scam.
• 29:56
  Joe Pellegrino: Maybe this isn't another act.
• 29:57
  Joe Pellegrino: But, you know, it's worth it.
• 30:00
  Joe Pellegrino: Everything was worth it because of what god is
• 30:04
  Joe Pellegrino: doing now in me.
• 30:05
  Joe Pellegrino: And looking at my family and seeing who the who the the people that
• 30:08
  Joe Pellegrino: they are, that is incredible to me.
• 30:11
  Joe Pellegrino: I mean, I could get welled up just thinking about my family and and
• 30:14
  Joe Pellegrino: just I mean, I love them so much and and the people that they
• 30:17
  Joe Pellegrino: are.
• 30:18
  Joe Pellegrino: I it's just incredible.
• 30:19
  Joe Pellegrino: So, you know, legacy is we're all writing a legacy.
• 30:23
  Joe Pellegrino: We are all writing one right now.
• 30:25
  Joe Pellegrino: The great news is if your legacy stinks, it can change
• 30:30
  Joe Pellegrino: today.
• 30:30
  Joe Pellegrino: Today could be the day you change that legacy.
• 30:33
  Lisa Nichols: That is so good.
• 30:34
  Lisa Nichols: That is so good.
• 30:35
  Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
• 30:35
  Lisa Nichols: It's not what you leave to someone.
• 30:38
  Lisa Nichols: It's what you leave in them.
• 30:40
  Lisa Nichols: Yep.
• 30:40
  Lisa Nichols: And the cool thing about that, it's not just your family.
• 30:44
  Lisa Nichols: Joe, it's everyone that is in your sphere of influence.
• 30:48
  Lisa Nichols: You can leave a legacy in that person by depositing good
• 30:52
  Lisa Nichols: things in them.
• 30:52
  Lisa Nichols: I love that so much.
• 30:54
  Lisa Nichols: Well, you and Bethany have been married for at least, what, thirty nine years,
• 30:58
  Lisa Nichols: almost forty years?
• 30:59
  Joe Pellegrino: Yeah.
• 31:00
  Lisa Nichols: Bethany and
• 31:00
  Joe Pellegrino: I Bethany and I are gonna be married forty years next year, which is
• 31:04
  Joe Pellegrino: unbelievable to me.
• 31:05
  Joe Pellegrino: But, yes, forty years, three grown children, four grandchildren, one on the way.
• 31:10
  Lisa Nichols: Oh my goodness.
• 31:11
  Lisa Nichols: How wonderful is that?
• 31:12
  Lisa Nichols: Well, you gotta start planning something, Joe.
• 31:15
  Lisa Nichols: You know?
• 31:15
  Lisa Nichols: We are.
• 31:16
  Lisa Nichols: Big, really big.
• 31:17
  Lisa Nichols: We are.
• 31:18
  Lisa Nichols: I'll give you a little I'll give you a little nugget.
• 31:20
  Lisa Nichols: I've got a really dear friend, and he planned it was,
• 31:24
  Lisa Nichols: like, their thirtieth.
• 31:26
  Lisa Nichols: And he planned something every day for thirty
• 31:30
  Lisa Nichols: days.
• 31:32
  Lisa Nichols: And it's like, you know, all of the guys are like, you're setting us
• 31:36
  Lisa Nichols: all up for, you know, failure here, but it was cool.
• 31:38
  Lisa Nichols: It was cool.
• 31:39
  Lisa Nichols: He called it a palooza.
• 31:41
  Joe Pellegrino: You know,
• 31:41
  Lisa Nichols: the thirty thirty day palooza.
• 31:43
  Lisa Nichols: Well, I can
• 31:43
  Joe Pellegrino: tell you something that I did for my wife's sixtieth birthday.
• 31:47
  Joe Pellegrino: The sixty days before her birthday, every day on the mirror,
• 31:51
  Joe Pellegrino: I would scribble something I loved about her on a on a, you know,
• 31:54
  Joe Pellegrino: sticky note, and I'd put it on the mirror for her to sing for
• 31:57
  Joe Pellegrino: sixty days.
• 31:58
  Joe Pellegrino: So we did a sixty day countdown.
• 32:01
  Lisa Nichols: Oh.
• 32:01
  Lisa Nichols: That is wonderful.
• 32:03
  Lisa Nichols: Well, tell me this, and then I've got a couple other questions for you
• 32:06
  Lisa Nichols: that I'm I'm anxious to dig into.
• 32:08
  Lisa Nichols: But what's your best advice for building a Christ centered marriage?
• 32:13
  Joe Pellegrino: Well, honestly, it's been we've had rocky roads.
• 32:17
  Joe Pellegrino: We've had challenges.
• 32:18
  Joe Pellegrino: But I think the line of communication is extraordinarily important.
• 32:22
  Joe Pellegrino: But for first and foremost, it's understanding that marriage is
• 32:26
  Joe Pellegrino: is a journey, not a destination.
• 32:29
  Joe Pellegrino: You know, that there are gonna be changes.
• 32:31
  Joe Pellegrino: There are gonna be chunk struggles.
• 32:33
  Joe Pellegrino: I mean, think about it.
• 32:34
  Joe Pellegrino: Two families are coming together, and they're they're colliding.
• 32:38
  Joe Pellegrino: And as as it was for my wife and I, my wife came from
• 32:41
  Joe Pellegrino: a big Italian family.
• 32:43
  Joe Pellegrino: I did too, but we were quiet.
• 32:44
  Joe Pellegrino: They weren't.
• 32:45
  Joe Pellegrino: So we swept things under the rug.
• 32:47
  Joe Pellegrino: They talked about things.
• 32:49
  Joe Pellegrino: You know?
• 32:49
  Joe Pellegrino: So two worlds colliding.
• 32:51
  Joe Pellegrino: It's it's it's it's a journey.
• 32:54
  Joe Pellegrino: And you have to recognize that you're in it for the long haul, and
• 32:57
  Joe Pellegrino: I'm not going anywhere.
• 32:59
  Joe Pellegrino: We're gonna be here no matter what.
• 33:01
  Joe Pellegrino: So let's make this work, and let's have some fun doing it.
• 33:04
  Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
• 33:05
  Lisa Nichols: I love that.
• 33:05
  Lisa Nichols: And I tell people all the time, if people tell you that there's not
• 33:08
  Lisa Nichols: issues or problems, it's either they're either lying to you or
• 33:12
  Lisa Nichols: they're sweeping stuff under the rug and not dealing with it.
• 33:15
  Lisa Nichols: Right, Joe?
• 33:15
  Lisa Nichols: Absolutely.
• 33:16
  Lisa Nichols: Because there's no perfect.
• 33:17
  Lisa Nichols: But it is.
• 33:18
  Lisa Nichols: It's that just that commitment to go, no.
• 33:20
  Lisa Nichols: We're, you know, we're here and we're gonna make work.
• 33:23
  Lisa Nichols: Right?
• 33:24
  Lisa Nichols: So Yes.
• 33:24
  Lisa Nichols: I love that.
• 33:25
  Lisa Nichols: This is really I'm anxious to hear what you say about this because you
• 33:29
  Lisa Nichols: wrote Fathers Say, the book Fathers Say, and
• 33:33
  Lisa Nichols: it's really about giving the gift of a blessing over your children.
• 33:37
  Lisa Nichols: You know, what have you learned about the words that we
• 33:41
  Lisa Nichols: say?
• 33:42
  Lisa Nichols: I mean, I love what you just you gave our listeners an idea.
• 33:45
  Lisa Nichols: I love what you did with your wife, you know, and just saying, putting
• 33:48
  Lisa Nichols: those little post its on there about what you love about her.
• 33:51
  Lisa Nichols: But the power of our words, either negative or positive,
• 33:55
  Lisa Nichols: right, Joe, can make the biggest difference, change the trajectory
• 34:00
  Lisa Nichols: of someone's life, truly.
• 34:01
  Joe Pellegrino: Let let's let we have to, first of all, break break the mold here
• 34:05
  Joe Pellegrino: and say there's a blessing and there are words of encouragement.
• 34:09
  Joe Pellegrino: Words of encouragement is, you know, you're great, you're a great player, you're this
• 34:13
  Joe Pellegrino: and that.
• 34:14
  Joe Pellegrino: Words of blessing are different.
• 34:15
  Joe Pellegrino: Words of blessing are raining down God's blessing on another person.
• 34:19
  Joe Pellegrino: It's asking to bless them.
• 34:21
  Joe Pellegrino: And I I learned this through one of our Legacy Minda Men conferences
• 34:25
  Joe Pellegrino: where a gentleman who, was my worship leader,
• 34:29
  Joe Pellegrino: he was up there and he said to me, Joe, would you allow me
• 34:32
  Joe Pellegrino: to do something different?
• 34:34
  Joe Pellegrino: I said, what is it?
• 34:35
  Joe Pellegrino: He said, just trust me.
• 34:37
  Joe Pellegrino: His father was a famous salsa player, very famous.
• 34:40
  Joe Pellegrino: And, he had an he was on an album cover of his that had
• 34:44
  Joe Pellegrino: him showing like a Superman s on his chest.
• 34:47
  Joe Pellegrino: And he was talking about his dad, and he was saying, you know, everybody
• 34:51
  Joe Pellegrino: loved my dad, but I never really got a lot of his time.
• 34:54
  Joe Pellegrino: And I never really received a blessing from him.
• 34:56
  Joe Pellegrino: And he said, today, I wanna offer you, meaning the the crowd,
• 35:01
  Joe Pellegrino: the ability to get a blessing.
• 35:03
  Joe Pellegrino: And we called a bunch of pastors and leaders to the front of the
• 35:06
  Joe Pellegrino: room, and we asked people to come forward.
• 35:09
  Joe Pellegrino: Lisa, ninety five percent of the men jumped up and ran
• 35:13
  Joe Pellegrino: to receive a blessing.
• 35:15
  Joe Pellegrino: So many of them crying.
• 35:17
  Joe Pellegrino: I remember one man not being able to get out of his seat because
• 35:20
  Joe Pellegrino: he was bawling his eyes out because he was reflecting on his negative relationship
• 35:24
  Joe Pellegrino: with his father.
• 35:25
  Joe Pellegrino: Young, old, seventy years old, didn't matter.
• 35:28
  Joe Pellegrino: And I realized, oh my goodness.
• 35:30
  Joe Pellegrino: This is this is powerful.
• 35:33
  Joe Pellegrino: And so then I I decided to reach out to a guy who wrote
• 35:36
  Joe Pellegrino: a book called The Blessing.
• 35:37
  Joe Pellegrino: His name is doctor John Trent.
• 35:39
  Joe Pellegrino: And, John, I said, John, how about we team up and
• 35:43
  Joe Pellegrino: let's take what you wrote thirty years ago that impacted my life,
• 35:47
  Joe Pellegrino: and let's do something really cool and do blessing day,
• 35:51
  Joe Pellegrino: where we challenge people to bless their children, grandchildren,
• 35:56
  Joe Pellegrino: and those they're mentoring.
• 35:58
  Joe Pellegrino: And do it not only face to face, but record it on
• 36:02
  Joe Pellegrino: video so that they have your words and they can look in your eyes
• 36:05
  Joe Pellegrino: for all time.
• 36:07
  Joe Pellegrino: So if you if you do it before they're they go to college, when
• 36:10
  Joe Pellegrino: they go down that bad road that they might travel down, they can always
• 36:14
  Joe Pellegrino: have the words to come back to.
• 36:16
  Joe Pellegrino: When you're no longer there, they can always have your words.
• 36:20
  Joe Pellegrino: When you're no longer there and they have children of their own, they can
• 36:23
  Joe Pellegrino: pass grandpa's
• 36:25
  Joe Pellegrino: message of blessing right down the line.
• 36:28
  Joe Pellegrino: That's the power of the blessing, and we're hoping to make,
• 36:33
  Joe Pellegrino: the Sunday before Thanksgiving every year, National Blessing Day.
• 36:36
  Joe Pellegrino: And we've asked the president of the United States to sign a proclamation to
• 36:40
  Joe Pellegrino: do just that.
• 36:41
  Lisa Nichols: Oh, I hope you get that passed.
• 36:43
  Lisa Nichols: That is so powerful.
• 36:45
  Lisa Nichols: I love that so much.
• 36:48
  Lisa Nichols: Wow.
• 36:49
  Lisa Nichols: Well okay.
• 36:51
  Lisa Nichols: So I love what you say about this.
• 36:53
  Lisa Nichols: I'm talking about legacy.
• 36:54
  Lisa Nichols: You said life is God's gift to us.
• 36:58
  Lisa Nichols: The legacy you leave behind is your gift to him.
• 37:00
  Joe Pellegrino: Yep.
• 37:02
  Joe Pellegrino: I believe that.
• 37:03
  Joe Pellegrino: Beautiful.
• 37:03
  Joe Pellegrino: Without a doubt.
• 37:05
  Lisa Nichols: I I do too.
• 37:06
  Joe Pellegrino: Life life is a gift.
• 37:08
  Joe Pellegrino: The no matter what our circumstances in life are, it's a gift.
• 37:12
  Joe Pellegrino: And we talked about attitude before.
• 37:14
  Joe Pellegrino: I I wanna share something about attitude that maybe you or your your audience
• 37:17
  Joe Pellegrino: hasn't heard before.
• 37:18
  Joe Pellegrino: But attitude to me is a divine word.
• 37:20
  Joe Pellegrino: Why?
• 37:21
  Joe Pellegrino: At least in the English language, it is.
• 37:23
  Joe Pellegrino: Because if you take the word and spell it out, a t t I
• 37:26
  Joe Pellegrino: t u d e, and you put the new numeric value to
• 37:30
  Joe Pellegrino: each one of those letters, a being one, t being twenty, etcetera, and you
• 37:34
  Joe Pellegrino: add it up, it equals one hundred.
• 37:38
  Joe Pellegrino: And the reason why that is so powerful to me is because we talk
• 37:42
  Joe Pellegrino: about giving a hundred and ten percent.
• 37:44
  Joe Pellegrino: There's no such thing.
• 37:45
  Joe Pellegrino: The maximum effort anybody can give is one hundred percent.
• 37:48
  Joe Pellegrino: However, you can give ninety, you can give seventy, and
• 37:52
  Joe Pellegrino: you can give fifty.
• 37:54
  Joe Pellegrino: So attitude, which is the only thing we can
• 37:59
  Joe Pellegrino: the only thing we can control in our lives is attitude.
• 38:02
  Joe Pellegrino: Yes.
• 38:03
  Joe Pellegrino: Our response Responsitions.
• 38:06
  Joe Pellegrino: Any situation
• 38:07
  Lisa Nichols: Mhmm.
• 38:07
  Lisa Nichols: Is
• 38:08
  Joe Pellegrino: the only thing we can control.
• 38:09
  Joe Pellegrino: So if we get this understanding that attitude, if we're positive,
• 38:14
  Joe Pellegrino: if we recognize I'm gonna give a hundred percent of my attitude, Watch
• 38:18
  Joe Pellegrino: what happens around you.
• 38:21
  Joe Pellegrino: You you will be so incredibly attractive to people.
• 38:24
  Joe Pellegrino: They're gonna be drawn to you.
• 38:26
  Joe Pellegrino: They're gonna wanna know what you know because it's a difference maker.
• 38:30
  Joe Pellegrino: Yeah.
• 38:30
  Lisa Nichols: And you
• 38:30
  Joe Pellegrino: know what?
• 38:32
  Joe Pellegrino: That's what makes you a Dash enhancer when you have the right attitude, understanding
• 38:36
  Joe Pellegrino: that I am not first.
• 38:39
  Joe Pellegrino: As a matter of fact, I'm not even second.
• 38:41
  Joe Pellegrino: I'm third.
• 38:42
  Joe Pellegrino: In my book, and this is me.
• 38:45
  Joe Pellegrino: Everybody has their own.
• 38:46
  Joe Pellegrino: God first, family second, and and everybody else actually second, and
• 38:50
  Joe Pellegrino: me last.
• 38:52
  Joe Pellegrino: I wanna be able to bless other people.
• 38:55
  Joe Pellegrino: And that's why the passion answer is so important to me.
• 38:58
  Lisa Nichols: That is so cool.
• 38:59
  Lisa Nichols: I love that you figured that out.
• 39:01
  Lisa Nichols: The the hundred.
• 39:03
  Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
• 39:04
  Lisa Nichols: I I love that.
• 39:05
  Lisa Nichols: I love that because we cannot we can't even control the events
• 39:09
  Lisa Nichols: that happen in our life sometimes.
• 39:11
  Lisa Nichols: Right?
• 39:11
  Lisa Nichols: But, y'all, we can we can control our response
• 39:15
  Joe Pellegrino: That's correct.
• 39:15
  Lisa Nichols: To those And by the
• 39:16
  Joe Pellegrino: way, I did not figure that out.
• 39:18
  Joe Pellegrino: Somebody else shared it.
• 39:19
  Lisa Nichols: Somebody else shared it.
• 39:19
  Lisa Nichols: Well, I love it.
• 39:20
  Lisa Nichols: I know.
• 39:21
  Lisa Nichols: Whoever did that, we're giving credit to you, but I love that.
• 39:25
  Lisa Nichols: I will not forget that.
• 39:26
  Lisa Nichols: Well, I this one is just so I mean, this is not
• 39:30
  Lisa Nichols: just for men, but
• 39:33
  Lisa Nichols: this is, like, for everybody.
• 39:35
  Lisa Nichols: You know, we live in a very digitally connected world,
• 39:40
  Lisa Nichols: but sometimes relationally
• 39:43
  Lisa Nichols: disconnected.
• 39:44
  Lisa Nichols: You know, what do you have to say about that?
• 39:46
  Lisa Nichols: And what do you how do you, coach men or women
• 39:50
  Lisa Nichols: on this, Joe?
• 39:51
  Lisa Nichols: Because boy,
• 39:54
  Lisa Nichols: it's,
• 39:55
  Lisa Nichols: I I worry really even about our kids today, you know,
• 39:59
  Lisa Nichols: with how digitally they're connected, but then not being able to hold
• 40:03
  Lisa Nichols: a face to face conversation.
• 40:05
  Joe Pellegrino: Think about this.
• 40:06
  Joe Pellegrino: We are born to be relational.
• 40:08
  Joe Pellegrino: We are born to be relational.
• 40:10
  Joe Pellegrino: Your gifts are not my gifts.
• 40:12
  Joe Pellegrino: Your weaknesses are not my weaknesses.
• 40:14
  Joe Pellegrino: Your passions are not my passions.
• 40:16
  Joe Pellegrino: The reality is we need others to help us
• 40:21
  Joe Pellegrino: achieve what we need to achieve.
• 40:23
  Joe Pellegrino: And when you sit in front of a screen or or playing games all
• 40:26
  Joe Pellegrino: day, you're interacting with something that is not real.
• 40:30
  Joe Pellegrino: And you you, first of all, will lose your identity in something like that.
• 40:35
  Joe Pellegrino: You certainly will will not understand what your purpose is because you can really
• 40:38
  Joe Pellegrino: never understand what your true purpose is until you know what your true identity
• 40:42
  Joe Pellegrino: is.
• 40:42
  Joe Pellegrino: That's what purposeful identity is.
• 40:45
  Joe Pellegrino: It's all understanding that identity feeds and
• 40:49
  Joe Pellegrino: fuels purpose.
• 40:50
  Joe Pellegrino: As a matter of fact, I call this convergence.
• 40:54
  Joe Pellegrino: When you take the strengths that you've been given and you take
• 40:58
  Joe Pellegrino: the passion that you have and you have that intersecting point,
• 41:02
  Joe Pellegrino: it usually will point directly to what your purpose in life is.
• 41:06
  Joe Pellegrino: As a matter, it comes to a point.
• 41:07
  Joe Pellegrino: It's a place of convergence, yet we rarely look at that.
• 41:10
  Joe Pellegrino: And in order to achieve that, we need to recognize there are certain
• 41:15
  Joe Pellegrino: people that will help fill those holes that we have.
• 41:19
  Joe Pellegrino: Those relationships are extraordinarily important.
• 41:23
  Joe Pellegrino: Curb your understanding and use of social media.
• 41:26
  Joe Pellegrino: Curb your gaming.
• 41:27
  Joe Pellegrino: And understand that there are real people out there.
• 41:30
  Joe Pellegrino: Real people that you may not wanna really associate with right now because
• 41:34
  Joe Pellegrino: you don't think they wanna associate with you.
• 41:37
  Joe Pellegrino: But you know what?
• 41:38
  Joe Pellegrino: We're all different, and we're all unique.
• 41:41
  Joe Pellegrino: We're all different, we're all unique, but we all need each other.
• 41:45
  Joe Pellegrino: Mhmm.
• 41:46
  Joe Pellegrino: That is extremely powerful.
• 41:48
  Joe Pellegrino: Right.
• 41:49
  Joe Pellegrino: If somebody disagrees with you on something, respect their decision.
• 41:53
  Joe Pellegrino: Ask questions about what they believe, why they believe it, and
• 41:58
  Joe Pellegrino: have a discussion instead of some presupposed or preconceived
• 42:02
  Joe Pellegrino: notion that they're wrong and they're evil and they're they're haters and they're this.
• 42:06
  Joe Pellegrino: That's just not the case most of the time.
• 42:08
  Joe Pellegrino: But if we ask questions
• 42:10
  Lisa Nichols: Yes.
• 42:11
  Joe Pellegrino: We get to know people.
• 42:12
  Joe Pellegrino: When we get to know people, it takes down all the guards Mhmm.
• 42:16
  Joe Pellegrino: And we start having relationship.
• 42:19
  Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
• 42:20
  Lisa Nichols: We're all different.
• 42:21
  Lisa Nichols: I'm glad that you I'm glad that you said that, Joe, because I feel
• 42:25
  Lisa Nichols: the same way about that.
• 42:26
  Lisa Nichols: I I kinda go back to Covey, seek to understand.
• 42:29
  Lisa Nichols: Right?
• 42:30
  Lisa Nichols: The only way you can understand is if you will sit there and ask
• 42:34
  Lisa Nichols: the questions.
• 42:35
  Lisa Nichols: Right?
• 42:35
  Lisa Nichols: And, yeah, I think that that's where relationship is truly
• 42:39
  Lisa Nichols: solidified.
• 42:40
  Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
• 42:42
  Lisa Nichols: Well, I'm gonna ask you this, and then we're gonna talk about something extra.
• 42:45
  Lisa Nichols: You got something really exciting that you're working on now, something
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  Lisa Nichols: that I had not really heard about, and it's all about baseball.
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  Lisa Nichols: Tell our listeners real quickly about that, and then I wanna talk about something
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  Lisa Nichols: extra.
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  Joe Pellegrino: Yeah.
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  Joe Pellegrino: We're looking to create, some digital baseball cards,
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  Joe Pellegrino: for players who want to share their faith.
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  Joe Pellegrino: And those digital baseball cards are high quality cards that we equip the players
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  Joe Pellegrino: with to give out to fans.
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  Joe Pellegrino: They sign them and give them out.
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  Joe Pellegrino: On the back of the card is a QR code, which will take them
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  Joe Pellegrino: to a website where the player will share their testimony.
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  Joe Pellegrino: They'll share their life, and they'll share all the different experiences that they've had.
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  Joe Pellegrino: At the same time, we'll be able to share other players' testimonies
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  Joe Pellegrino: as they go on to that site.
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  Joe Pellegrino: And that will lead us to something we call travel chapel, where the same
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  Joe Pellegrino: player that's giving the testimony will also give us several stories from their lives,
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  Joe Pellegrino: and we'll match that story with a message that we'll be able to deliver
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  Joe Pellegrino: to kids who can't go to church on Sunday.
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  Joe Pellegrino: And they'll be able to get a digital download of a church service, if
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  Joe Pellegrino: you will, that's led by the player and somebody like, well, me.
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  Joe Pellegrino: And the reality is it helps kids connect,
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  Joe Pellegrino: understanding, you know, helping build their faith and giving them really encouraging words.
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  Joe Pellegrino: So we're real excited about that.
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  Joe Pellegrino: That's scheduled to launch in, spring of twenty twenty six.
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  Joe Pellegrino: So we're waiting to hear final details on that, but we do expect that
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  Joe Pellegrino: to happen.
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  Lisa Nichols: That is so cool.
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  Lisa Nichols: I love that.
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  Lisa Nichols: I had not heard of anything like that, and I'm thinking in my mind
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  Lisa Nichols: because I'm kind of a connector.
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  Lisa Nichols: I'm thinking, oh, I need to tell I need to connect Joe and this
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  Lisa Nichols: person.
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  Lisa Nichols: So we'll talk about that offline.
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  Lisa Nichols: Well, Joe, this is called something extra,
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  Lisa Nichols: and this is the question that I ask every one of my guests.
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  Lisa Nichols: What do you believe is this something extra that every leader needs?
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  Joe Pellegrino: It's very simple.
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  Joe Pellegrino: We've already touched on two of the pieces, but I believe there's three that
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  Joe Pellegrino: are connected.
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  Joe Pellegrino: The first one is attitude.
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  Joe Pellegrino: Have the right attitude.
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  Joe Pellegrino: Attitude is is incredibly important.
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  Joe Pellegrino: And, again, only thing we can control.
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  Joe Pellegrino: When we have the right attitude, it will connect us
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  Joe Pellegrino: to that dash enhancer within us that we ignite, we get
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  Joe Pellegrino: excited about, and we recognize that life is not about our it's not our
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  Joe Pellegrino: it's not our own.
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  Joe Pellegrino: It's to be lived properly and to be lived for others.
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  Joe Pellegrino: And when you understand those two components, it'll
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  Joe Pellegrino: lead to what I consider to be the most powerful type of leadership,
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  Joe Pellegrino: which is legacy minded leadership.
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  Joe Pellegrino: Understanding that I am going to share with my team.
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  Joe Pellegrino: Like, for example, one of my goals with my team is I will
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  Joe Pellegrino: actually you know how we have annual reviews for our employees?
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  Joe Pellegrino: I'll have an annual review for me, and I'll ask my
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  Lisa Nichols: how
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  Joe Pellegrino: can I serve you better?
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  Joe Pellegrino: Mhmm.
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  Joe Pellegrino: Because I truly believe in in steward leadership.
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  Joe Pellegrino: You know, leading by you know, being a being a good solid steward and
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  Joe Pellegrino: understanding that I want to serve you.
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  Joe Pellegrino: I wanna be a servant leader.
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  Joe Pellegrino: And how can I best do that for you?
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  Joe Pellegrino: How can I get you to a place that's better than me?
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  Joe Pellegrino: How can you become a better leader than I am?
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  Joe Pellegrino: Because I am not a great leader.
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  Joe Pellegrino: I want you to be better.
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  Joe Pellegrino: And that's the key.
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  Joe Pellegrino: So I think it starts with attitude, which under unlocks the dash
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  Joe Pellegrino: enhancer in us that helps us to become a legacy minded leader
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  Joe Pellegrino: and rule under legacy minded leadership.
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  Lisa Nichols: That's beautiful.
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  Lisa Nichols: Well, Joe, this has been so much fun.
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  Lisa Nichols: I seriously think that we could do a five hour podcast and not
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  Lisa Nichols: run out of things to talk about.
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  Lisa Nichols: But we won't do that to our listeners.
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  Lisa Nichols: Maybe we'll do a part two down the road.
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  Lisa Nichols: But,
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  Lisa Nichols: listeners, I mean, I I hope that you, have just garnered
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  Lisa Nichols: so much wisdom and insights here.
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  Lisa Nichols: Go and follow Joe.
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  Lisa Nichols: Look at what he's doing.
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  Lisa Nichols: Go to the website.
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  Lisa Nichols: Get his books.
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  Lisa Nichols: He's got eight books out there.
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  Lisa Nichols: Like I said, I've got, I've got the five questions, five
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  Lisa Nichols: and a half questions that everyone must answer, and it's really fantastic.
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  Lisa Nichols: So I just know the rest of them are the same way.
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  Lisa Nichols: And, Joe, thank you so much for
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  Joe Pellegrino: Thank you.
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  Lisa Nichols: Making the time to be on the show.
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  Joe Pellegrino: Thank you.
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  Joe Pellegrino: God bless you.
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  Lisa Nichols: Yes.
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  Lisa Nichols: You too.
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