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Speaker 2: Then you're blinding me. That's okay, I'm happy you're here
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Speaker 2: to watch this video that nobody asked for. Hello everybody
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Speaker 2: and welcome back to my YouTube channel or welcome to
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Speaker 2: my YouTube channel. I'm CallMeKris, you can call me Kris,
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Speaker 2: and today we're gonna be reviewing a show.
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Speaker 1: Do I do this often?
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Speaker 2: Pretty much never, but I have done this once before
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Speaker 2: and it was season one. of The Secret Lives of
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Speaker 2: Mormon Wives. That's right here. And it does kind of fall.
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Speaker 1: Under my crime, conspiracy, cults, and murder a little bit.
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Speaker 1: It's not going to be a murder podcast, but it
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Speaker 1: falls under it.
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Speaker 2: Okay, so I'm counting it because this technically does involve conspiracies.
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Speaker 2: Some of the women say it's a bit culty and
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Speaker 2: there's definitely some crime happening here too. So I'm just
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Speaker 2: basically saying all of this to give me an excuse
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Speaker 2: for watching trash television, okay? And if you've watched it, great,
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Speaker 2: or sorry. And if you haven't, but you're interested in
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Speaker 2: some Mormon wives drama, because it's pretty juicy and it's funny,
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Speaker 2: then buckle up because I'm literally just gonna rampage through
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Speaker 1: It's been so long. I appreciate your guys' patience. Man,
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Speaker 1: I'm excited. Lots of really good things. But anyway, let's
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Speaker 1: get back to the video.
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Speaker 2: If you guys want more of an in-depth recap of
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Speaker 2: season one, you can go to this video first if
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Speaker 2: you want. If not, I'm going to kind of recap
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Speaker 2: season one really quickly just so we're all on the
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Speaker 2: same page, okay? So season two of The Secret Lives
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Speaker 2: of Mormon Wives premiered on Thursday, May 15th on Hulu.
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Speaker 2: They're in direct competition with Keeping Up with the Kardashians.
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Speaker 2: And for a minute, the show was actually doing even
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Speaker 2: better than them. So it's kind of crazy to think about.
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Speaker 2: But anyway, the Hulu description of the show is the
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Speaker 2: scandalous world of a group of Mormon mom influencers implodes
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Speaker 2: when they get caught in the midst of a swinging
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Speaker 2: scandal that makes international headlines.
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Speaker 1: Now their sisterhood is shook to its core.
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Speaker 2: Faith. Friendship and reputations are all on the line. Will
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Speaker 2: hashtag mom talk be able to survive and continue to
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Speaker 2: give the rule book a run for its money? Or
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Speaker 2: will this group fall from grace? Spoiler alert, their shit
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Speaker 2: falls from grace and hits the motherfucking fan, okay?
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Speaker 1: It's crazy.
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Speaker 2: That part of the reason going over this is because
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Speaker 2: I am on TikTok, okay? So I've seen these women
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Speaker 2: before and the whole scandal thing, the swinger scandal thing,
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Speaker 2: which was just crazy.
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Speaker 1: Crazy.
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Speaker 2: And I'm a woman and I just like drama, okay?
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Speaker 2: My life is pretty boring without drama lately, which I'm
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Speaker 2: not complaining about, but I seek it in television like
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Speaker 2: a lot of people do. But I think a little
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Speaker 2: breakdown of what Mormonism is is important as well. So
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Speaker 2: I'm going to do a really quick one. Again, if
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Speaker 2: you want to go to this video, I do a
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Speaker 2: massive breakdown of Mormonism. I think it's pretty interesting. But
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Speaker 2: here's the cliff notes. So Mormonism is a common nickname
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Speaker 2: for the Church of Jesus Christ of the Latter-day Saints,
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Speaker 2: aka the LDS Church. And people in the church are
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Speaker 2: often called Mormons, but they do prefer Latter-day Saints or
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Speaker 2: LDS members. At least the serious ones do. And the
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Speaker 2: term Mormon comes from the Book of Mormon, one of
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Speaker 2: the main religious texts alongside the Bible. And their core
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Speaker 2: beliefs are God is seen as a personal, loving father,
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Speaker 2: and Jesus Christ is central to everything. And they believe
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Speaker 2: in his teachings, his atonement, and his resurrection. But what
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Speaker 2: kind of splits them from Christianity is that they believe
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Speaker 2: in modern day prophets who receive ongoing revelations from God.
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Speaker 2: Like voicemails on your phone from God just giving you updates, basically.
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Speaker 2: And they also believe that families are forever and marriage
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Speaker 2: and family are sacred and eternal.
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Speaker 1: So even if you.
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Speaker 2: Split from someone, technically, The wife is still like attached
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Speaker 2: to the husband.
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Speaker 1: The husband can split off.
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Speaker 2: If they die and then they go to heaven, then
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Speaker 2: the man will technically have like multiple wives and he'll
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Speaker 2: be like a sister wife in heaven. It's interesting stuff. Again,
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Speaker 2: I go into more detail. in my last video. But anyway,
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Speaker 2: essentially everyone is responsible for doing good, being self-reliant, and
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Speaker 2: helping others.
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Speaker 1: So you know, some good values in there.
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Speaker 2: And the overall church life is that everyone pitches in,
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Speaker 2: members are asked to take roles like teaching, leading, or
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Speaker 2: helping others, and only men can hold priesthood. But the
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Speaker 2: women do have leadership roles and equal spiritual responsibilities. But
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Speaker 2: in watching the show and in knowing some Mormons, equal
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Speaker 2: is not the term I'd use. And popular practices are
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Speaker 2: missionary work, temple worship, family history research, and family home evening,
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Speaker 2: which is like a weekly family night, which.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I had weekly family nights. I think that's great.
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Speaker 2: And what they tend to avoid is no coffee, tea, alcohol, tobacco,
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Speaker 2: or drugs. And instead, they just drink Swig. Utah is
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Speaker 2: just like, they love their pop or soda. They're just
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Speaker 2: like soda heads because that's the only thing that they
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Speaker 2: can drink. So it's just like simple syrup through the
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Speaker 2: roof in Utah. And they value modesty, clean living, and
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Speaker 2: staying sexually pure until marriage. But some things have changed
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Speaker 2: through revelation, such as polygamy, which is having more than
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Speaker 2: one spouse. And that was ended in 1890. And in 1978,
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Speaker 2: the priesthood was open to all worthy men, regardless of race.
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Speaker 2: So back in the day, it was sketchy. And the
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Speaker 2: church can evolve, and they believe that God continues to
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Speaker 2: guide them through modern prophets. Basically leaving the message on
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Speaker 2: the phone, basically being like, hey, actually, we're going to
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Speaker 2: switch things up, okay? Tell everybody on earth. And that
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Speaker 2: is like a very simple recap. Also no hate to
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Speaker 2: anybody that's Mormon. I'm just trying to put this in
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Speaker 2: like layman's terms for people basically. So here's the little
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Speaker 2: recap of season one. So basically a loosely connected group
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Speaker 2: of Mormon momfluencers gained notoriety in 2022 after their prominent member,
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Speaker 2: Taylor Frankie Paul, she's like the queen bee, the leader
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Speaker 2: of the group, sparked a major scandal, which is basically
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Speaker 2: her publicly revealing that she and several others had participated
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Speaker 2: in soft swinging, which if you don't know what that is,
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Speaker 2: it basically refers to couples engaging in sexual activity with
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Speaker 2: each other's partners without full sexual intercourse.
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Speaker 1: Soft swinging.
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Speaker 2: And it shocked everybody because apparently it's not that taboo
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Speaker 2: in the community. Not that everybody does it. I'm not
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Speaker 2: saying everybody does it, but it's, it's, It is known.
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Speaker 2: And even before the controversy erupted, the group's manager had
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Speaker 2: already been pitching their lifestyle as a potential reality TV series.
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Speaker 2: And once the scandal broke, a deal was swiftly finalized.
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Speaker 2: It's giving Kim Kardashian's a * * tape and keeping
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Speaker 2: up with the Kardashians, but it's fine. But despite its
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Speaker 2: somewhat provocative beginnings, the series quickly attracted viewers by providing
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Speaker 2: an entertaining, occasionally perplexing window into the everyday world of
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Speaker 2: Utah's Latter-day Saints community. Albeit a very dramatized version.
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Speaker 1: Or maybe not. I don't know. This is their lives,
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Speaker 1: you know?
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Speaker 2: And I think that's where the Mormon church kind of
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Speaker 2: comes in and they don't appreciate the.
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Speaker 1: Show that much.
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Speaker 2: Needless to say, they don't like the show because they
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Speaker 2: think it represents them negatively.
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Speaker 1: In a bad way.
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Speaker 2: And in one memorable two-part episode, for instance, in the
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Speaker 2: first season, the moms gathered for like a cocktail hour
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Speaker 2: inspired soda party where drink specialists just concocted customized non-alcoholic beverages,
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Speaker 2: playfully nodding to the Mormon prohibition on alcohol. But then
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Speaker 2: the episode just casually pivots into surprising revelations. Like several
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Speaker 2: of the women get regular Botox together purely to enjoy
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Speaker 2: the laughing gas, which is crazy. And two others admitted
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Speaker 2: that they'd attend joint ketamine therapy sessions. So it's just
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Speaker 2: all kind of crazy. They're like the bad Mormons. So
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Speaker 2: there are the sinners and the saints also. They kind
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Speaker 2: of got labels. There's like the good girls and the
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Speaker 2: bad girls, the girls that either like left the church
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Speaker 2: or they have divorced because that makes you a sinner,
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Speaker 2: I guess. And then there's the saints who still regularly
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Speaker 2: attend church, still wear, you know, garments.
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Speaker 1: And I don't know.
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Speaker 2: Are like true Mormons, I guess. But let's go over
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Speaker 2: the season one cast. First, we have Taylor Frankie Paul,
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Speaker 2: basically their queen. She's a leader and founder of the group.
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Speaker 2: She has the most followers and she kickstarted the soft
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Speaker 2: swinging scandal. And in season one, the drama with her
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Speaker 2: was that she was pregnant with Dakota's baby. And she
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Speaker 2: was trying to figure out if she wants to actually
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Speaker 2: be with him or if she should leave him. But
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Speaker 2: she ends up having the baby, but then there's cheating
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Speaker 2: allegations at the end of the season. And then there's
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Speaker 2: Demi and people just loved her by the.
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Speaker 1: End of the show.
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Speaker 2: She was like the hero in the show and she
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Speaker 2: was super empowering towards the other girls. But that little
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Speaker 2: weird thing about Demi is that she met her husband
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Speaker 2: Brett when she was nine and he was 25 and
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Speaker 2: he was also having children and he was married at
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Speaker 2: the time. Obviously she didn't get married when she was nine,
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Speaker 2: she got married when she was a little older and
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Speaker 2: of age legally, but strange and nobody really talks about it.
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Speaker 2: And I find that a little strange, but by the
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Speaker 2: end of season one, everybody kind of thought that she
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Speaker 2: would be the new leader of the group potentially, but
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Speaker 2: she was clearly the fan favorite. And the drama started
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Speaker 2: for season two, even before season two came out because
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Speaker 2: the poster for season two came out and.
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Speaker 1: Demi was in the back.
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Speaker 2: Of the group poster. She was in that back right corner,
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Speaker 2: left corner, whatever you're looking at. And people were like, well,
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Speaker 2: what's happening?
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Speaker 1: She was a fan favorite.
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Speaker 2: Why is she in the back?
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Speaker 1: Oh my God.
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Speaker 2: She just started to stir. And by then I forgot
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Speaker 2: everything that happened. I had to, I had to recap
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Speaker 2: season one, but we'll get into that because to.
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Speaker 1: Me, she flips the script in season two.
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Speaker 2: She's a bitch. Anyway, then we move on to Jen Affleck. No,
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Speaker 2: she's not related to Ben Affleck, even though.
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Speaker 1: She claims she was.
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Speaker 2: And she basically had her husband labeled as the worst
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Speaker 2: husband of the season because he was very controlling and rude.
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Speaker 2: I don't think he changes that much in season two,
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Speaker 2: but a I think he's still kind of a piece
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Speaker 2: of shit. But anyway, the drama surrounding Jen is that
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Speaker 2: she kind of got dragged to a Chip and Dale
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Speaker 2: show and her husband did not appreciate that at all.
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Speaker 2: And he was threatening to divorce her because she wasn't
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Speaker 2: obeying him. And as a Mormon, wives are supposed to
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Speaker 2: do what their husbands say, even though she didn't inherently
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Speaker 2: do anything.
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Speaker 1: Like she didn't do anything at the event. There was
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Speaker 1: just like dancers dancing.
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Speaker 2: Dancing, you know, and the text messages are disturbing from that,
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Speaker 2: but it just kind of goes to show the dynamic between.
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Speaker 1: A lot of the husbands and the wives.
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Speaker 2: And just like the men and women in general in
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Speaker 2: this community, at least on the show, there's like the
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Speaker 2: men are up here and the women are down here.
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Speaker 2: And it's very hard to watch sometimes, especially with Zach
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Speaker 2: and Jen. But at the end of the first season,
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Speaker 2: Zach and Jen move to NYC because.
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Speaker 1: He is going to medical school.
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Speaker 2: And she kind of wanted to distance herself from the
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Speaker 2: girls because she was a bit of an outcast by
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Speaker 2: the end of the season. And then there's Jesse, who
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Speaker 2: is just like... CEO, founder of Jay-Z hair, girl boss, basically.
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Speaker 2: And she was actually the instigator for the whole Chippendale
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Speaker 2: situation in season one. And she's like a, like a
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Speaker 2: bad girl. She's like one of the center bad girls.
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Speaker 2: And then there's Layla who joined the Mormon church at 16,
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Speaker 2: married at 19, got divorced at 21 and had two
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Speaker 2: kids in there all together. She's Crazy to me, but
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Speaker 2: not uncommon in the community. And not much happened during
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Speaker 2: season one for her. She was kind of a background character.
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Speaker 2: But her big thing in season one is that she
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Speaker 2: has never climaxed.
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry. But yeah, anyway.
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Speaker 2: And then there's Macy, who's just kind of friends with
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Speaker 2: everyone and called out Taylor's man.
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Speaker 1: For his shitty behavior. She's a girl's girl.
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Speaker 2: And at the end of season one, she's on the
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Speaker 2: phone with Jenna, who's a woman who claimed to be
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Speaker 2: involved with Taylor Frankie Paul's baby daddy while he was
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Speaker 2: first seeing her.
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Speaker 1: Taylor.
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Speaker 2: So as we know that at the end of the season,
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Speaker 2: Taylor's man Dakota was known to potentially be cheating and
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Speaker 2: we get those answers in season two. And then there's Michaela.
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Speaker 2: She was married at 16 and her husband was 21.
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Speaker 2: Apparently that's legal where they're from. And she was also
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Speaker 2: kind of a background character in season one. And she
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Speaker 2: was the one that had the birthday where Whitney showed
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Speaker 2: up unannounced. And that was like the most awkward drama.
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Speaker 2: ever and seemed super scripted. And then Whitney Leavitt, she's
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Speaker 2: like the antagonist. She's like the villain in season one
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Speaker 2: and she is kind of in season two as well.
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Speaker 2: But she was the one that went viral for dancing
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Speaker 2: with her sick RSV baby in the hospital.
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Speaker 1: Here's a clip. Just so... So off color.
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Speaker 2: And in the first season, her husband had a Tinder
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Speaker 2: account that she found.
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Speaker 1: That was all really awkward.
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Speaker 2: And some people thought that he might be gay also.
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Speaker 2: And it was a whole thing. And they decided during
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Speaker 2: that season whether they were going to stay together or not.
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Speaker 2: And they ended up staying together. And she also missed
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Speaker 2: a mom talk event, which ruffled everyone's feathers. And then
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Speaker 2: she showed up at another event, which was the birthday
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Speaker 2: party that she wasn't invited to, which also ruffled feathers.
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Speaker 1: And at the end of the season, she.
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Speaker 2: Was still like the overall villain. And that's when we
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Speaker 2: get to season two.
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Speaker 1: That's over.
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Speaker 2: So season two, it starts and the intro is just,
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Speaker 2: it's crazy. It basically, it opens on the girls praying
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Speaker 2: and then it kind of intercuts between them like swearing
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Speaker 2: and just.
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Speaker 1: Doing crazy shit. It's like, our father.
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Speaker 2: It's like an art in heaven. That's not exactly how
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Speaker 2: it goes. I can't remember what the prayers were, but it's, it's,
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Speaker 2: it was very funny. I was laughing immediately. So I
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Speaker 2: appreciate that. This is probably when I should have just
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Speaker 2: turned the show off, but I was, I was already committed.
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Speaker 2: I was already in it and I did it for you.
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Speaker 2: So like the video, please God. But the season overall
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Speaker 2: felt a bit more surface level. Like most of the
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Speaker 2: girls were really just looking to become more famous in
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Speaker 2: the season than they already were. And it just kind
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Speaker 2: of showed through like scripted type drama to make it
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Speaker 2: seem more entertaining, I guess. It just seemed like it wasn't,
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Speaker 2: not that the first season was serious in any way,
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Speaker 2: but they did, they did touch on some like important
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Speaker 2: topics and it's not that they didn't touch on important
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Speaker 2: topics in this one, but I felt like everything was
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Speaker 2: up here. Like if they got deep with anything, they
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Speaker 2: didn't stay there and it just.
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Speaker 1: Went back up here. Like there's a moment when one of.
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Speaker 2: The other girls goes to therapy and she's going about
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Speaker 2: like experiences she had when she was a little kid
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Speaker 2: and like getting a and that they didn't go anywhere
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Speaker 2: with that. And it just kind of cut out and
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Speaker 2: I was like, okay, we were actually getting somewhere there.
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Speaker 2: And then they just didn't do anything. Mostly it's just
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Speaker 2: about catty bullshit the whole time. Season one, at least
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Speaker 2: had some substance. It was like a, it was like
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Speaker 2: a nice hearty soup.
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Speaker 1: And then season two was like, like a lukewarm diet
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Speaker 1: Coke from Swig.
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Speaker 2: It was just a huge giant hair extension measuring contest,
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Speaker 2: which is Figuratively and for real, because it seems like
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Speaker 2: everyone had something tweaked a.
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Speaker 1: Smidge in this season.
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Speaker 2: Whether it's like more filler, more hair, or more surgery,
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Speaker 2: everybody's like slowly morphing into the same person. Which is fine,
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Speaker 2: like do you, whatever makes you feel better about yourself.
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Speaker 2: But I feel like I'm watching a knockoff of Keeping
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Speaker 2: Up with the Kardashians, or like a Who Could Look
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Speaker 2: More plastic competition, rather than a Mormon Wives reality show.
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Speaker 2: And it's just hard because like I'm all for women
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Speaker 2: feeling their best. But in this situation, I think it's
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Speaker 2: just more of the need for these women to feel
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Speaker 2: like they need to like one up each other in
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Speaker 2: the show. And they need to fit this impossible beauty
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Speaker 2: standard that's already in society. But I think it's extremely
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Speaker 2: prominent in the Mormon community that everybody needs to look
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Speaker 2: a certain way. So that's why they all literally look
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Speaker 2: like the same person. And don't get me started on
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Speaker 2: how much money that costs. I can't even imagine like
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Speaker 2: hundreds of thousands of dollars to keep that up.
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Speaker 1: So it's like.
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Speaker 2: hair extensions, Botox, any type of surgery, fillers, like it
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Speaker 2: all adds up. So it's just, it's just kind of crazy.
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Speaker 2: And then, you know, little girls watching it, they're like, oh,
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Speaker 2: I gotta look like that. It's just, it's not good. Meanwhile,
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Speaker 2: the men can all just go to super cuts, get
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Speaker 2: a number four and be good to go. But just
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Speaker 2: with the overall pressure of fame and looking a certain
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Speaker 2: way in their community, it seems that it has become
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Speaker 2: just all-encompassing for these women to be as hot as possible.
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Speaker 2: And that's where the second season lies for me. So
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Speaker 2: with that, let's go over our season two cast of
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Speaker 2: lookalike doppelgangers. We have basically the same entire cast with Taylor, Demi, Layla, Jen, Mikayla, Macy, Whitney,
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Speaker 2: and Jesse, and then we have a new cast member
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Speaker 2: who will fit into the fold, and that is Miranda McWhorter.
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Speaker 2: And she said that she basically swerved the first season
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Speaker 2: of The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives as she didn't
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Speaker 2: want her divorce to play out on TV, because she
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Speaker 2: was going through a divorce during the filming of it.
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Speaker 2: And overall, in the second season, she was pretty much
16:49
Speaker 2: like a sweet character. But we'll get into it, okay?
16:52
Speaker 2: Let's just dive in, and I'm just gonna give recaps
16:55
Speaker 2: of the episodes of the drama and give you my opinions.
16:58
Speaker 2: But anyway, we open on the premiere. And that is
17:01
Speaker 2: Gracie Lou Cowboy Pillows Influencer Event. And no, it is
17:05
Speaker 2: not a pillow fight party. It quite literally means pillows,
17:09
Speaker 2: as in a euphemism for boobs and butts.
17:13
Speaker 1: God's like, yeah!
17:14
Speaker 2: So the moms straddle mechanical bulls also while analyzing the
17:19
Speaker 2: brand health of hashtag mom talk.
17:21
Speaker 1: And that's when Whitney enters.
17:23
Speaker 2: She's pregnant and kind of out of sync. with everything
17:26
Speaker 2: and at this point she's missed Taylor's baby shower and
17:29
Speaker 2: she's ghosted Macy's brand launch and she has rage quit
17:33
Speaker 2: the group chat so everybody's just kind of like no.
17:37
Speaker 2: But as always the line between exiled mom talk and
17:40
Speaker 2: booked and busy is blurry when your job is just
17:43
Speaker 2: being an influencer so she kind.
17:45
Speaker 1: Of like has to show up right because it's mom talk.
17:47
Speaker 2: But the rest of the women look at her like
17:48
Speaker 2: she's committed to sacrilege by peeing in their soda but
17:51
Speaker 2: what Whitney's not the only chaos agent in this episode
17:55
Speaker 2: because we meet Miranda, the newbie. So she was knee
17:58
Speaker 2: deep in that soft swinging scandal in the last season,
18:01
Speaker 2: off camera, obviously. And she's now divorced and rebranding and
18:04
Speaker 2: desperately trying to claw her way back into the inner circle,
18:08
Speaker 2: into the popular group. And her strategy is basically just
18:11
Speaker 2: to deny everything, saying, I've never.
18:13
Speaker 1: Touched a wiener, not once. I don't know what that does, okay.
18:17
Speaker 2: And Taylor is just exhausted from Dakota's last infidelity and
18:21
Speaker 2: treats Miranda like background noise, basically. And speaking of Dakota,
18:24
Speaker 2: Taylor's baby daddy and secret liar, he's now been fully
18:28
Speaker 2: exposed thanks to the alliance between Taylor and his side chick, Jenna.
18:33
Speaker 2: So the two women meet up and trade receipts and
18:35
Speaker 2: they cross reference timelines and text messages like FBI agents,
18:38
Speaker 2: which is kind of like girl boss, I love that.
18:41
Speaker 2: And it turns out Dakota took Jenna to dinosaur museums
18:44
Speaker 2: and trampoline parks, which sounds more like babysitting than cheating,
18:49
Speaker 2: but it's still cheating, I guess, just like. I don't
18:54
Speaker 2: know how to cheat or anything, but I don't think
18:56
Speaker 2: that's the best way to go about it.
18:58
Speaker 1: It's just weird.
18:59
Speaker 2: But the worst part is that he told Jenna he's
19:02
Speaker 2: only with Taylor for clout, which is like a huge
19:05
Speaker 2: hit to the face. Meanwhile, Zach, Jen's estranged husband, because
19:09
Speaker 2: they took several months off from each other after season one,
19:12
Speaker 2: and Zach actually didn't go to med school and they
19:14
Speaker 2: took a year off. He probably just failed, in my opinion.
19:18
Speaker 2: And then he just shows up with a new haircut,
19:21
Speaker 2: a weekend bag, and some shitty carnations and just tries
19:24
Speaker 2: love bombing Jen. And Jen then just like lays out
19:27
Speaker 2: all the conditions, which is like empathy, equality, and freedom
19:31
Speaker 2: to go to Chippendales without being threatened with divorce.
19:34
Speaker 1: You know, bottom of the barrel shit.
19:36
Speaker 2: And he reacts like she just asked him to self
19:39
Speaker 2: castrate with toenail clippers.
19:40
Speaker 1: Like it's, it's so weird.
19:42
Speaker 2: Like the dynamic- between men and women in this specific community,
19:46
Speaker 2: at least the one that we're seeing on TV, it's
19:48
Speaker 2: so not equal.
19:50
Speaker 1: You'll see throughout all the.
19:52
Speaker 2: Episodes, you see the men interacting with each other and
19:55
Speaker 2: them interacting with the women, and it is like so different.
19:59
Speaker 2: It's like they're always talking to little children. When the
20:02
Speaker 2: men talk to their wives or to any of the women,
20:04
Speaker 2: it's like.
20:05
Speaker 1: You do this, you do that.
20:06
Speaker 2: Who the fuck are you talking to a grown woman?
20:08
Speaker 2: It's just so awkward and weird. And it's hard to
20:12
Speaker 2: be like, Jen, come on, be a boss bitch. But
20:15
Speaker 2: she's been conditioned her whole life to to think that
20:18
Speaker 2: she is, you know, kind of lesser than a man. Like,
20:21
Speaker 2: you have to obey your husband, you have to do
20:23
Speaker 2: whatever they say, and you will get looked down upon
20:26
Speaker 2: if you divorce your husband. So it's just a thing
20:28
Speaker 2: that plays out that is just uncomfy in this episode,
20:32
Speaker 2: and throughout the season, honestly. But elsewhere, Miranda sees an
20:34
Speaker 2: opportunity and pounces, attempting to recruit Whitney. And they kind
20:38
Speaker 2: of bond over being frostbitten and friendless. And Miranda invites
20:41
Speaker 2: the women to a happy hour at her house, hoping
20:44
Speaker 2: for some kind of comeback. But some of the girls
20:46
Speaker 2: headed to a haunted house fear factory, where they giggled
20:49
Speaker 2: about Miranda's obvious thirst for clout. It's just so Mean
20:52
Speaker 2: Girls clicky bullshit. It's just, it's like hard to watch.
20:55
Speaker 2: And the show just kind of continues to wrestle with
20:57
Speaker 2: its internal saint-sinner labeling system, because Jesse and Demi are divorced,
21:03
Speaker 2: which makes them sinners, and Macy is widowed, which makes
21:05
Speaker 2: her a saint, and Michaela is ex-Mormon, but she has
21:08
Speaker 2: good vibes, so that means she's a.
21:10
Speaker 1: she's a... saint of sinners. I have no idea.
21:13
Speaker 2: So the moral lines are just really blurred, but that's
21:15
Speaker 2: like just a pattern through the season. And then we're
21:17
Speaker 2: back to Taylor's place and things get worse because her mom,
21:21
Speaker 2: her mom drops in with a new, basically a new face,
21:24
Speaker 2: but I guess it's just a new nose job. And she,
21:26
Speaker 2: her mom's now morphing into one of them. And basically
21:29
Speaker 2: she just tells Taylor that she should have chosen better
21:31
Speaker 2: and that she should keep trying to make it work
21:33
Speaker 2: with Dakota, even though He cheated, albeit at a museum,
21:37
Speaker 2: at a trampoline park, but it still counts. And she
21:40
Speaker 2: just gets, like, gaslit by her mom, and it's super awkward,
21:43
Speaker 2: and Taylor kind of pushes back, referencing her own abandonment issues.
21:46
Speaker 2: And there's just, like, this generational divide between them. And
21:50
Speaker 2: then we go to a retreat in Utah that Jed
21:52
Speaker 2: and Zach are at, where they're getting ketamine couples treatment,
21:55
Speaker 2: because apparently if it's okay with a doctor, then it's
21:58
Speaker 2: okay with God.
22:00
Speaker 1: Which is convenient.
22:01
Speaker 2: And Zach claims that he's ready to grow, that he's grown.
22:05
Speaker 2: And Jen's ego just like dissolves and nausea kicks in.
22:08
Speaker 2: And somewhere a producer asks if Zach is going to
22:10
Speaker 2: apologize for being a misogynistic asswipe.
22:13
Speaker 1: Reality TV at its finest.
22:15
Speaker 2: And as the episode ends, Dakota finally packs up and
22:17
Speaker 2: leaves Taylor's house after admitting to everything, including with sleeping
22:22
Speaker 2: with Jenna in Taylor's bed, which is what?
22:25
Speaker 1: Disgusting. Disgusting. So I guess they didn't.
22:28
Speaker 2: Just go to an amusement park or whatever the they
22:30
Speaker 2: did and his farewell monologue is just soaked in guilt
22:33
Speaker 2: and hollow promises and just and then we're back at
22:36
Speaker 2: miranda's big retreat and the women gather just awkward and
22:40
Speaker 2: skeptical and macy cuts to the chase asking miranda what
22:43
Speaker 2: she actually wants. But before the real answers come, the
22:46
Speaker 2: episode hits hyperspeed and a teaser reel of what's to come.
22:50
Speaker 2: Which is police run-ins, secrets, betrayals, f * * *
22:52
Speaker 2: s rubbing on people, and more mom talk meltdowns. And
22:55
Speaker 2: that's what brings us to episode two. And I'm gonna
22:57
Speaker 2: speed run these episodes because I know I know it's
23:00
Speaker 2: a lot. So we're back at Miranda's and she's just
23:02
Speaker 2: talking about all of her church guilt, basically. And then
23:05
Speaker 2: Taylor brings up Miranda's ex, who's Chase. Remember Chase. And
23:10
Speaker 2: Chase confessed feelings for Taylor after Taylor told Chase about
23:15
Speaker 2: a sex dream that she had about him, which is
23:17
Speaker 2: so weird.
23:19
Speaker 1: And like something I feel like teenagers would do. It's like,
23:22
Speaker 1: I had a sexy dream about you. And he's like, oh, really?
23:26
Speaker 2: Really?
23:26
Speaker 1: That's kind of hot. That's kind of hot. Like these
23:28
Speaker 1: are grownups. These are grownups.
23:30
Speaker 2: So Taylor offers a shitty apology for what happened and
23:34
Speaker 2: that she should have told her ahead of time when
23:37
Speaker 2: he confessed his feelings and everything. But then we're hit
23:40
Speaker 2: with the big surprise and that is that there's a
23:42
Speaker 2: Halloween party. There's going to be a Halloween party at
23:45
Speaker 2: Jesse's house and everyone is invited from the soft swinging scandal.
23:50
Speaker 1: What could go wrong?
23:51
Speaker 2: So now we're doing Halloween prep and Layla introduces her
23:55
Speaker 2: new boyfriend, Cameron, who's a Mormon soccer coach and her
23:58
Speaker 2: new boobs, which, you know, And meanwhile, we hard cut
24:01
Speaker 2: to Zack, Dakota, and Jordan, who are basically washed up
24:04
Speaker 2: man children, and they're just spitting cereal back into bowls.
24:07
Speaker 1: Like, these guys, the.
24:10
Speaker 2: Men in this, the men in this show, no redeeming qualities,
24:14
Speaker 2: like swig. The pop shop, the soda shop, should start
24:18
Speaker 2: offering free divorces with every soda purchase for these women,
24:21
Speaker 2: I swear to God. And then Dakota invites his friends
24:23
Speaker 2: fly fishing to brood and fix things with Taylor. And
24:26
Speaker 2: then Zach meets with Demi and Jesse wearing matching trench
24:30
Speaker 2: coats like Mormon Charlie's Angels and just fails to apologize
24:34
Speaker 2: and says Chippendales made him look bad, which like obviously
24:38
Speaker 2: it did. You were a literal psychopath to your wife.
24:40
Speaker 2: And then we go to Taylor's family barbecue.
24:44
Speaker 1: Oh my God.
24:45
Speaker 2: Was this hard to watch because the family invited Dakota. Dakota,
24:50
Speaker 2: her shitty man-child person who cheated on her at the
24:54
Speaker 2: trampoline park or whatever. And Taylor is just ambushed with
24:58
Speaker 2: blame at this party. It is so like that line with...
25:02
Speaker 2: them treating women and men the same, that there is no,
25:05
Speaker 2: that is not a thing. Like this is men and
25:07
Speaker 2: this is women. And this is like a clear understanding
25:10
Speaker 2: of that at this barbecue. Taylor's mom just kept saying like,
25:14
Speaker 2: keep trying with him, even though he cheated on her.
25:17
Speaker 2: And the dad just called the relationship a foundation of
25:20
Speaker 2: shit and blamed her. and kept pointing his finger at Taylor,
25:25
Speaker 2: being like, and it's your fault, and it's you. Meanwhile,
25:27
Speaker 2: Dakota's sitting there, the man who cheated on this guy's stepdaughter,
25:31
Speaker 2: and he's not getting any flack at all.
25:33
Speaker 1: It is so awkward.
25:34
Speaker 2: And then Taylor's brother suggests that she's not sacrificing enough,
25:37
Speaker 2: and then Dakota calls her for asking to hang out
25:41
Speaker 2: at night, even though it takes two, mother, okay? Like,
25:46
Speaker 2: she's getting berated that she slept with Dakota so early,
25:49
Speaker 2: but Dakota slept with her too?
25:51
Speaker 1: And then the sister kind.
25:52
Speaker 2: Of comes through the weeds and offers like sound advice
25:55
Speaker 2: like to separate and to do therapy and to get
25:58
Speaker 2: a new job or whatever.
25:59
Speaker 1: But then she drops the f * * * ing
26:00
Speaker 1: bomb like Satan's in your mind. And then I'm like, okay, well.
26:03
Speaker 1: Just no winning.
26:04
Speaker 2: So Taylor was just getting like stoned at this family
26:07
Speaker 2: barbecue and it just sucked to watch. And then Zach
26:10
Speaker 2: and Jen kind of talk about everything that Zach was
26:12
Speaker 2: talking about with the other girls. And then Jen's kind
26:15
Speaker 2: of thrown resentment like confetti and that's a whole thing.
26:18
Speaker 2: And then there's the Chippendale prep incident. and mom talk
26:21
Speaker 2: womanhood spectrum where demi and jesse hire a real chippendales
26:26
Speaker 2: dancer jason and the husbands are like taught to grind
26:29
Speaker 2: as a revenge gift for jen because remember jen went
26:32
Speaker 2: to the chippendales thing in the first season and zach
26:34
Speaker 2: got really mad at her the husband so they're they're
26:37
Speaker 2: just like throwing gasoline on the fire right now because
26:41
Speaker 2: jen and zach are gonna be at this halloween party
26:43
Speaker 2: and now demi and jesse are bringing chippendales people Like
26:46
Speaker 2: way to put your friend in like the most awkward situation.
26:49
Speaker 2: Like it's so, so petty and weird. And again, like
26:53
Speaker 2: mean girly, I hate it. And then Whitney is who's
26:56
Speaker 2: just pregnant and unbothered shops for spooky onesies.
26:59
Speaker 1: She's just off in her own world. And I kind
27:00
Speaker 1: of love that for her. And then comes the Halloween chaos.
27:03
Speaker 2: Where the costumes have like Taylor as Gretchen Wieners from
27:06
Speaker 2: Mean Girls versus J-Lo and Ben Affleck. And Chase, who's
27:10
Speaker 2: Miranda's ex, sex stream guy, shows up just to stir
27:14
Speaker 2: the pot. And he acts like pals around Dakota. And
27:17
Speaker 2: he hints he may have slept with Taylor. And he
27:19
Speaker 2: just over shares temple stories. But obviously the producers were
27:23
Speaker 2: loving it. And this is where like Taylor fumes as
27:25
Speaker 2: Dakota like fails to defend her at this point. And
27:27
Speaker 2: Chase is like, this is where Chase is like poking
27:29
Speaker 2: his finger and waving his finger and like, demeaning any
27:32
Speaker 2: woman that he's talking to. Meanwhile, Brett and Jordan are
27:35
Speaker 2: getting oiled up for their Chippendales debut. But just before
27:37
Speaker 2: the male stripper finale, police arrive and Chase is accused
27:41
Speaker 2: of inappropriate touching, which was like, if any, I mean,
27:44
Speaker 2: we don't really have a good angle, but he like poked,
27:47
Speaker 2: I think it was Demi while he was like walking past.
27:49
Speaker 1: And then she's like, oh my, He touched me. He
27:52
Speaker 1: manhandled me.
27:52
Speaker 2: I can't remember what she said exactly, but it was
27:54
Speaker 2: as if he grabbed her, threw her over his shoulder,
27:57
Speaker 2: slapped her ass or something, and then her husband got
27:59
Speaker 2: really mad, ran out, and.
28:01
Speaker 1: Was like, what did you do to my wife?
28:02
Speaker 2: And then they talked to each other, and he was
28:04
Speaker 2: able to talk it down.
28:05
Speaker 1: It was just really weird.
28:07
Speaker 2: And then we get into episode three, which just picks
28:09
Speaker 2: up mid-party with Taylor and Chase debating the extent of
28:12
Speaker 2: their past intimacy. And Layla bluntly tells Chase to just
28:15
Speaker 2: move on, signaling a push for emotional honesty and boundary setting.
28:18
Speaker 2: And then outside, Chase allegedly touched Demi. But again, unclear footage.
28:23
Speaker 2: And they're able to, like, simmer everything down because Brent
28:25
Speaker 2: went after Chase because he touched Demi.
28:27
Speaker 1: And he's just like, dude, I barely even touched her.
28:29
Speaker 1: And he's like, all right, man. Like, again, like the.
28:32
Speaker 2: Men talking to each other, it changes completely. Like when
28:34
Speaker 2: they're with the women, they're.
28:35
Speaker 1: Just like, what did you do? What did you say?
28:36
Speaker 1: What did you? And then they get the men to men.
28:38
Speaker 1: It's just like, oh dude, yeah, I know she's an idiot.
28:40
Speaker 2: It's just like, ooh. And then inside Zach and Jen
28:44
Speaker 2: are confused. And then Jen is surrounded by shirtless dancers.
28:47
Speaker 2: Something she previously approved technically, but Zach later uses against her.
28:52
Speaker 2: And like her approval was her saying yes to something
28:56
Speaker 2: she didn't even understand. She didn't give consent for. And
28:58
Speaker 2: that's a big thing in this season is like, oh,
29:00
Speaker 2: you didn't consent or I did consent and this and this.
29:02
Speaker 2: And I don't think they know what consent means because
29:05
Speaker 2: she didn't consent to having somebody grind their teeth.
29:07
Speaker 1: Against her in front of her husband, which I just,
29:11
Speaker 1: I can't believe these people.
29:12
Speaker 2: And then we go to Michaela and Halloween is pretty
29:14
Speaker 2: painful for Michaela because it's the anniversary of disclosing her
29:17
Speaker 2: childhood sexual abuse. And she attends a therapy session with
29:20
Speaker 2: a trauma specialist and they basically role play exercises focusing
29:24
Speaker 2: on reclaiming power. And the scene is super raw and
29:26
Speaker 2: emotional and underscores the contrast between influencer life and private trauma,
29:31
Speaker 2: but they don't go into it enough. Like I'm like, wow,
29:33
Speaker 2: this is like the first thing that's happening that actually
29:36
Speaker 2: we're feeling something, we're learning something, and she's being very vulnerable.
29:40
Speaker 1: And I feel like it's just not looked into enough,
29:42
Speaker 1: you know?
29:42
Speaker 2: And then we go back to surface level shit. Whitney
29:45
Speaker 2: has her baby at some point in this episode. And
29:47
Speaker 2: then Taylor confronts Miranda about her true extent of her
29:50
Speaker 2: role in the swinging scandal. And Taylor just kind of
29:52
Speaker 2: outlines all the problematic behavior, like, X-Acts in close proximity,
29:56
Speaker 2: blindfolded games, suggested content on camera. And Miranda agrees and
30:00
Speaker 2: accepts accountability, which is, you.
30:02
Speaker 1: Know, how big?
30:03
Speaker 2: And they kind of just reconcile quietly, which kind of
30:05
Speaker 2: like cements Miranda's re-entry into mom talk. And then Whitney
30:08
Speaker 2: invites Taylor and Macy over to see her newborn and
30:11
Speaker 2: they kind of like reconcile, but Taylor and Macy are like,
30:14
Speaker 2: remain cautious with it. And then we move on to
30:17
Speaker 2: another deeper part of the season that I think was
30:20
Speaker 2: really raw and emotional and probably the most interesting thing
30:24
Speaker 2: in season two, which is Jen's pregnancy reveal. So Jen
30:28
Speaker 2: takes a pregnancy test after being 10 days late and
30:31
Speaker 2: it's positive, but her reaction is just fear and sadness
30:35
Speaker 2: and just not joyful at all when she reveals it
30:39
Speaker 2: to Zach, her piece of shit husband. And she basically
30:42
Speaker 2: just questions her future and her marriage. And the moment
30:46
Speaker 2: is just deeply vulnerable and very emotionally charged. And she
30:50
Speaker 2: just says that she doesn't feel ready to bring a
30:52
Speaker 2: child into this marriage, especially since it's so rocky. And
30:55
Speaker 2: she says, I should be happy looking at this, but
30:57
Speaker 2: I'm not. I'm really scared. And it's just very raw
31:00
Speaker 2: and I think very real for some women.
31:02
Speaker 1: So I did, you.
31:06
Speaker 2: Appreciated it, I guess. And Jen falls into a depression
31:10
Speaker 2: and is basically friendless at this point too. Nobody's there
31:13
Speaker 2: to support Jen. And I feel so bad for her.
31:16
Speaker 2: There's a moment that we get into where Whitney comes
31:18
Speaker 2: and visits and kind of helps her out. But literally
31:21
Speaker 2: all the women are just catty bitches when Jen's going
31:25
Speaker 2: through it. And they all know that she's in a
31:27
Speaker 2: super super toxic relationship and that now she's having a
31:31
Speaker 2: baby with this man who's super toxic.
31:33
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's just really, really sad.
31:36
Speaker 2: And that's what brings us to episode four where Layla
31:38
Speaker 2: and her new boyfriend Cameron share a kiss on the
31:41
Speaker 2: Ferris wheel. And Cameron was raised Mormon and his father
31:44
Speaker 2: was a bishop and he's just now considering trying like alcohol.
31:48
Speaker 1: And edibles and Layla.
31:49
Speaker 2: realizes that they actually may not be compatible because of this.
31:52
Speaker 2: And then Layla vulnerably admits that she may die without
31:56
Speaker 2: ever experiencing an orgasm. She still hasn't had an orgasm.
31:59
Speaker 2: I feel so bad for this queen. This just kind
32:02
Speaker 2: of signals her evolution and desire for deeper intimacy despite fear.
32:06
Speaker 2: And it just kind of amplifies the fact that women,
32:09
Speaker 2: it just doesn't matter how women feel in these relationships
32:12
Speaker 2: as much as it does the man. Again, it's just
32:14
Speaker 2: highlighting the not so good part of this, basically. And
32:18
Speaker 2: then Macy drops a bomb that Brett actually cheated on
32:21
Speaker 2: Demi while she was away. And the whole group is
32:23
Speaker 2: like visibly unsettled and it's really awkward, especially given Demi's
32:27
Speaker 2: status as like the brand focus leader. She's like the
32:30
Speaker 2: clean brand chick. And then the conversation kind of shifts
32:33
Speaker 2: to Jen and Zach and Jen's line that Zack allows
32:37
Speaker 2: her to be herself. And this just kind of raises
32:39
Speaker 2: red flags about autonomy and control again. And then Brett, Jordan,
32:43
Speaker 2: and Zack hit the range as some dudes do to decompress,
32:47
Speaker 2: because life's really hard as a dude. And then Zack
32:50
Speaker 2: falsely suggests that Jen's Chippendales moment bordered on assault and
32:55
Speaker 2: just contradicts her consent. And then they joke about launching
32:58
Speaker 2: dad talk, missing the emotional labor that powers mom talk.
33:01
Speaker 2: They're just like, just tone deaf idiots, basically. And then
33:05
Speaker 2: Taylor and Dakota end up actually going to therapy and
33:08
Speaker 2: dramatic editing underscores the fragility of their progress. And Dakota
33:12
Speaker 2: apologizes sincerely, but it's like familiar territory with no follow-through guaranteed, basically.
33:17
Speaker 2: And then Demi hosts this like sex coach party thing
33:20
Speaker 2: where they do like blindfolded sensory exploration. And this kind
33:24
Speaker 2: of helps Layla because Layla's the one that's struggling with
33:26
Speaker 2: her own intimacy. So that's like nice. And then the
33:28
Speaker 2: group does a truth box where they all put like
33:31
Speaker 2: anonymous confessions into this truth box and then pull them out.
33:35
Speaker 2: Why the f * * * are we doing this
33:36
Speaker 2: as adults?
33:36
Speaker 1: This seems crazy.
33:38
Speaker 2: But then OneNote says that Jen is fake. All of
33:41
Speaker 2: them knowing like where she is in life and what's
33:43
Speaker 2: happening and how she's extremely upset about her marriage and
33:46
Speaker 2: having a baby, all this stuff. And then tension spikes immediately.
33:50
Speaker 2: And then we get into episode five and the episode
33:52
Speaker 2: just opens on the aftermath of the anonymous truth box
33:55
Speaker 2: message of I think Jen is fake. Also, there was
33:57
Speaker 2: a smiley face next to.
33:59
Speaker 1: It, which is.
34:00
Speaker 2: up. And then Jen just breaks down in tears. And
34:02
Speaker 2: then Whitney at this point extends an olive branch and
34:04
Speaker 2: invites the group to her newborn's baby shower for baby Billy,
34:07
Speaker 2: which reminds me of the show Righteous Gemstones, which the
34:10
Speaker 2: character of Walton Goggins is Uncle Baby Billy. This guy,
34:14
Speaker 2: if you haven't watched this, you should watch this show.
34:15
Speaker 2: If you like this, this show, you're going to love
34:18
Speaker 2: this show.
34:18
Speaker 1: Okay. Go watch it because it's really funny. But anyway.
34:20
Speaker 2: And Miranda suspects that Demi, Michaela, Layla, and Jesse were
34:23
Speaker 2: the ones behind that message in the truth box about Jen.
34:26
Speaker 2: So there's like fractures happening in the group left and right.
34:29
Speaker 2: And then Jesse and Demi opt out of Whitney's baby
34:31
Speaker 2: shower that she invited everybody to, and they plan a
34:34
Speaker 2: hibachi dinner instead, claiming it's not about Whitney, it's about
34:37
Speaker 2: not supporting Jen, which is wild again. Like they know
34:42
Speaker 2: that she's struggling with this relationship so much, and they
34:45
Speaker 2: like go out of their way to plan a dinner together.
34:47
Speaker 2: to hurt someone else. I'm not Mormon or anything, but
34:52
Speaker 2: I don't think God appreciates that behavior. And then Jen
34:55
Speaker 2: just breaks down and tells Zach that she's overwhelmed and
34:59
Speaker 2: just constantly crying. And Zach dismisses mom talk as all
35:02
Speaker 2: drama and questions its purpose, which I for once kind
35:06
Speaker 2: of agree with Zach being like, these are not people
35:08
Speaker 2: that love you. It's like, when does it stop being
35:11
Speaker 2: friends and start being just business partners? Not even business partners,
35:14
Speaker 2: like business competition. I still don't like Zach though, her
35:17
Speaker 2: piece of shit husband. And like, although he proves a
35:20
Speaker 2: point here, it does still show Zach's continued emotional disconnect
35:25
Speaker 2: from Jen's reality because it is her life.
35:27
Speaker 1: And there's other fights all through this.
35:29
Speaker 2: Like all the girls like have a fight about, Like
35:31
Speaker 2: this girl posted this TikTok and it seemed like she
35:34
Speaker 2: was passive aggressively making fun of me. So I'm going
35:36
Speaker 2: to go talk to this girl and she's going to
35:37
Speaker 2: tell me how they're straight. It's just so many fractures.
35:39
Speaker 2: I could literally be talking about this for hours. I'm
35:41
Speaker 2: going to try not to. Just trying to focus on
35:43
Speaker 2: like the very main things, you know? And then at
35:45
Speaker 2: Whitney's baby shower, Jen tries to rebuild her relationship with
35:49
Speaker 2: Taylor who asks her real issue is with Demi. And
35:52
Speaker 2: Jen says to me, let a man kiss her during
35:55
Speaker 2: a truth or dare and Italy, and Taylor is unimpressed
35:58
Speaker 2: to say the least. And then Taylor reveals a rumor
36:00
Speaker 2: that Brett actually cheated on Demi. And this just causes
36:03
Speaker 2: a big shift in power dynamic. And over at the
36:06
Speaker 2: hibachi dinner, Demi, Jesse, Michaela, and Layla discuss Jen versus Whitney.
36:10
Speaker 2: And the overall consensus is that Jen is manipulative, lies
36:14
Speaker 2: and plays the victim. Demi vows that if Jen ever
36:17
Speaker 2: attacks her, like emotionally or whatever, she won't be subtle.
36:20
Speaker 2: And she says, it'll be a bloodbath. Like Demi, the
36:24
Speaker 2: fan favorite of season one, and now in season two,
36:27
Speaker 2: is just like a vindictive, envious, jealous, just focused only
36:32
Speaker 2: on solely on the money. Like just kind of the
36:35
Speaker 2: main sinner of this season. Like she went downhill and
36:38
Speaker 2: in my opinion, like she really showed her true colors.
36:41
Speaker 2: And then we're on episode six. And this is when
36:43
Speaker 2: Jen has her mental health crisis. So it's a travel
36:46
Speaker 2: day for the girls Scottsdale trip and Jen is just missing.
36:50
Speaker 2: So this is when Whitney goes to check up on
36:52
Speaker 2: her at home and finds that she's in an emotional crisis.
36:55
Speaker 2: And Jen just confesses that she had thoughts of not
36:58
Speaker 2: wanting to be alive again, just like very emotional and
37:01
Speaker 2: very real and raw and just really hard to watch.
37:04
Speaker 2: And I'm really glad that the show decided to stop
37:07
Speaker 2: filming Jen because it's just not good for her. She's
37:09
Speaker 2: clearly not in a good place. And then all the
37:12
Speaker 2: other moms arrive on a party bus and they're all
37:14
Speaker 2: just asking about Jen. And then Whitney shares with Jen's
37:17
Speaker 2: permission that Jen is actually pregnant because they didn't know
37:20
Speaker 2: at this point that she was pregnant. I don't know
37:22
Speaker 2: if I said that before, but they knew that she
37:23
Speaker 2: was struggling in her relationship. They didn't actually know that
37:25
Speaker 2: she was pregnant as well. Not that that excuses all
37:28
Speaker 2: the shitty behavior, in my opinion. Even with that information,
37:31
Speaker 2: the group just reacts with like cold detachment.
37:34
Speaker 1: Macy says.
37:35
Speaker 2: Well, they don't protect. They never protect. And Layla jokes
37:38
Speaker 2: that it's a bandaid baby, which I don't know. They're
37:42
Speaker 2: just mean girls. It's just a big mean girls thing.
37:45
Speaker 2: And then Whitney is just stunned by their lack of compassion,
37:48
Speaker 2: despite shared experiences with pregnancy and depression. Like all of
37:51
Speaker 2: these women have gone through very similar things, like with
37:54
Speaker 2: their growing up and having to have babies really, really
37:57
Speaker 2: early and not really understanding, like, is this who I am?
38:00
Speaker 2: They didn't really have a time to figure out who
38:02
Speaker 2: they are before they had babies. So The fact that
38:04
Speaker 2: they share no sympathy for Jen is just, again, just
38:07
Speaker 2: mean girly, like clicky.
38:08
Speaker 1: It's weird.
38:09
Speaker 2: And then the girls turn back to the truth box.
38:11
Speaker 2: And Jessie admits that she has photo proof of her
38:14
Speaker 2: husband's anatomy. And Demi insists Brett couldn't cheat and they've
38:18
Speaker 2: only been apart for five days total. You can cheat
38:21
Speaker 2: in five days. That's, I've heard of worse. And Whitney
38:24
Speaker 2: defends missing Macy's launch, saying it led to personal growth.
38:28
Speaker 2: And Demi considered ousting Jessie from MomTalk to get better
38:31
Speaker 2: contract deals. Cause she said like, Jessie already makes so
38:35
Speaker 2: much money with her, with her hair business.
38:37
Speaker 1: She doesn't need to make any more money.
38:38
Speaker 2: We need to make more money or I need to
38:40
Speaker 2: make more money.
38:41
Speaker 1: So she should just be out of this.
38:42
Speaker 2: So she's basically shitting on Jessie who's supposed to be
38:46
Speaker 2: her like best friend. And like, meanwhile, Jessie's just being
38:49
Speaker 2: girl boss, like trying to make as much money as
38:51
Speaker 2: possible and get brand deals.
38:52
Speaker 1: It's not her fault. that she's on the show.
38:54
Speaker 2: So Demi is just like, just showing all kinds of
38:57
Speaker 2: greed in her true colors again. And after this is
39:00
Speaker 2: when Jen is announced that she has stepped away, which
39:04
Speaker 2: I'm glad, because Jen just needs to focus on her
39:07
Speaker 2: mental health.
39:07
Speaker 1: And then there's a pickleball.
39:09
Speaker 2: Event, and Whitney just shifts the tension off drama with
39:12
Speaker 2: Michaela by reigniting Demi and Jesse contract tension that we
39:17
Speaker 2: knew about before. How Demi wanted to kick Jesse out
39:20
Speaker 2: to get more money. And then Taylor calls Demi out saying,
39:23
Speaker 2: why do you think you deserve the biggest brand deals?
39:25
Speaker 2: And then Demi calls herself a fan favorite and an asset,
39:29
Speaker 2: which is a major reality.
39:30
Speaker 1: TV faux pas.
39:31
Speaker 2: I mean, like we are actually looking at the numbers, okay?
39:34
Speaker 2: Taylor has the most followers by far. Again, not that
39:37
Speaker 2: it matters, but clearly all these girls care about are
39:40
Speaker 2: numbers and money and all that shit. And Demi is like,
39:42
Speaker 2: you know, middle line and just because she was a
39:44
Speaker 2: fan favorite in season one means she's a fan favorite
39:47
Speaker 2: in season two. She just looks at other people and
39:49
Speaker 2: compares herself rather than just focusing on herself and it's
39:52
Speaker 2: just really toxic and it's also just very prevalent in
39:56
Speaker 2: the industry I'm in too. That's why I don't I
39:59
Speaker 2: just have like Selena, a few friends, you know? I
40:01
Speaker 2: know so many people like this and it's so exhausting.
40:04
Speaker 2: But this just seems like perfect timing for Demi to
40:06
Speaker 2: kind of get like the sympathy card and she starts
40:09
Speaker 2: talking about her infertility issues and everything, which is, you know,
40:12
Speaker 2: awful and very real and for.
40:14
Speaker 1: A lot of women.
40:15
Speaker 2: But it's like suspiciously well-timed and kind of diffuses the
40:18
Speaker 2: dinner table tension. And then the moms go out clubbing,
40:21
Speaker 2: just leading to convos about competition versus jealousy. And then
40:24
Speaker 2: we get into episode seven, where the moms wear matching
40:26
Speaker 2: leggings in a group dance, which is a symbolic attempt
40:30
Speaker 2: of unity, which I think is really funny. And then
40:32
Speaker 2: Whitney asks the big question, am I back on MomTalk?
40:36
Speaker 2: And an emergency vote is held. like it's a like
40:39
Speaker 2: it's a little little 12 year old club and everyone
40:42
Speaker 2: says no except for taylor and whitney is like officially
40:46
Speaker 2: out which is like just go just leave don't come
40:49
Speaker 2: back this is so toxic and then we have a
40:50
Speaker 2: taylor and dakota update and that's that they're still sleeping
40:53
Speaker 2: together they're still calling it stepping back and they're still
40:55
Speaker 2: out of baby wipes and basically basically nothing has changed
40:58
Speaker 2: this is when we see zach who's still being filmed
41:01
Speaker 2: even though Jen took a step back. And he tells
41:03
Speaker 2: Connor and Whitney that Jen cries at 90% because of
41:07
Speaker 2: the girls and suggests Demi and Brett may pursue legal
41:10
Speaker 2: action to suppress rumors. And he delivers the ominous line,
41:13
Speaker 2: I have nothing to lose, so we'll see. And then
41:17
Speaker 2: we have a Taylor Dakota update number two, where Gavin
41:19
Speaker 2: advises Dakota to cement himself in self-love. and set up
41:23
Speaker 2: as a father. So he's finally kind of stepping up.
41:27
Speaker 2: And then we have Friendsgiving and the Mormon bake-off. And
41:29
Speaker 2: the absentees are Jordan and Jesse because they're in Mexico
41:33
Speaker 2: and obviously Jen and Zach.
41:34
Speaker 1: And the energy in this is kind of calm for once.
41:36
Speaker 2: And they all bake something and it's kind of like
41:39
Speaker 2: a Mormon contradiction on full display.
41:41
Speaker 1: It's like all this drama, drama, drama.
41:43
Speaker 2: And then we have a bake-off and then we're all like,
41:45
Speaker 2: we're all good and we're all like traditional and everything's fine.
41:47
Speaker 1: It's just, I don't know. The switch up, the switch
41:51
Speaker 1: up is crazy.
41:51
Speaker 2: And then at dinner, all that nice stuff just leaves
41:55
Speaker 2: and Layla reignites Demi and Brett cheating scandal. And Demi
41:58
Speaker 2: just doubles down that they're always together and that he'd
42:01
Speaker 2: need a spy to cheat.
42:02
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's good.
42:04
Speaker 2: And Macy then demands proof despite organizing anonymous confessions herself.
42:09
Speaker 2: And we have another Taylor and Dakota update. And that's
42:11
Speaker 2: that Dakota gives Taylor an ultimatum and Brett offers advice
42:15
Speaker 2: and asks Taylor if she thinks she's worthy of love.
42:17
Speaker 2: And then Connor chimes in to discuss him himself because
42:21
Speaker 2: the men just love to make it about themselves and
42:23
Speaker 2: just belittle the women constantly. It's just like the men's behavior,
42:26
Speaker 2: it just continues to undermine the women's autonomy over and
42:29
Speaker 2: over again. It's just like so uncomfortable. Now we're into
42:32
Speaker 2: episode eight and that's Taylor's CMA milestone because Taylor attended
42:36
Speaker 2: the CMAs to present an award, which was a huge
42:39
Speaker 2: career moment for her. And then she obviously posted it
42:41
Speaker 2: on Instagram expecting support from MomTalk, but it was radio silence.
42:46
Speaker 2: No comments, no fire emojis, no slay queens, nothing. And
42:51
Speaker 2: apparently this is a big deal. So Taylor vents on
42:54
Speaker 2: Instagram stories and the group defends themselves with claims of
42:57
Speaker 2: private texts. And then Demi retaliates publicly saying, don't feed
43:01
Speaker 2: the ego, you don't need her BB. And then the
43:04
Speaker 2: digital war just ignites. Again, just like, we're here. It's
43:07
Speaker 2: so surface level. It's so mean girl. It's so not important,
43:13
Speaker 2: but I'm still watching it. and then eventually they all
43:15
Speaker 2: like start talking and taylor starts to like say that
43:19
Speaker 2: she regrets the online war and everything and they kind
43:22
Speaker 2: of step towards reconciliation.
43:24
Speaker 1: It's just it's just it's just a shit shit show and.
43:26
Speaker 2: During the reconciliation demi like like taylor sends out a
43:29
Speaker 2: big apology or whatever and demi is just like so
43:32
Speaker 2: cold and she like she really is just becoming the
43:34
Speaker 2: villain like she was like here and now she's like
43:36
Speaker 2: bottom of the barrel like And Layla even reveals that
43:39
Speaker 2: she's actually afraid of Demi and that she's been manipulated
43:42
Speaker 2: by her before. And we find out while Taylor is
43:45
Speaker 2: on a jet home that Demi has just been out
43:47
Speaker 2: for blood for Taylor. Like she just wants to knock
43:49
Speaker 2: Taylor down off her pedestal. And then Whitney actually meets
43:52
Speaker 2: Demi at Jesse's salon. And Whitney actually validates Demi's feelings
43:56
Speaker 2: about Taylor like cautiously, but she still does.
43:59
Speaker 1: And this kind of foreshadows Demi. the next board vote.
44:02
Speaker 2: And then there's the next brand event with Jay-Z Styles,
44:05
Speaker 2: which is Jessie's business. And then Taylor arrives with Dakota
44:08
Speaker 2: in moth wigs. So Jessie moves the group to a
44:10
Speaker 2: private corner and the confrontation begins. And Taylor says she
44:13
Speaker 2: apologized to everyone but to me. And Jessie brings up
44:16
Speaker 2: bullying from Taylor's fans. And then Taylor fires back saying,
44:19
Speaker 2: you guys think I'm dumber.
44:21
Speaker 1: Than a block. Because that's what the text messages read
44:23
Speaker 1: that she read on the jet.
44:24
Speaker 2: And then Taylor claims that Demi doesn't think Jesse's good
44:26
Speaker 2: at hair and that she's just stuck at Jay-Z styles.
44:30
Speaker 2: And this is like the ultimate betrayal in a networked
44:32
Speaker 2: business circle again.
44:35
Speaker 1: Surface level shit. It's like, it's just tiring.
44:37
Speaker 2: It's like, are we writing this drama into this? It's
44:40
Speaker 2: just like the same thing over.
44:41
Speaker 1: And over, it seems.
44:42
Speaker 2: And then we actually have a full cast conversation on Mormonism,
44:47
Speaker 2: which I think is one of the more interesting parts
44:50
Speaker 2: of this whole season. And to talk about doctrine, trauma, afterlife, betrayal,
44:54
Speaker 2: all in a goth Airbnb. But it is.
44:57
Speaker 1: really interesting.
44:58
Speaker 2: And it's also interesting to see who's, who's, uh, uh,
45:02
Speaker 2: participating in the conversation and who's like looking at their
45:05
Speaker 2: phone and not participating because they know that the Mormon
45:07
Speaker 2: church might not like what they're talking about and everything.
45:10
Speaker 1: I found, I found it very, very interesting.
45:11
Speaker 2: And then fans actually spotted a thyroid issue from the
45:14
Speaker 2: Chippendales episode. And Jesse is actually diagnosed with nodules and
45:18
Speaker 2: she actually needs surgery. And then Macy shows some genuine
45:21
Speaker 2: friendship and support. And Jesse is still hurt by Demi.
45:24
Speaker 2: undermining her hair business, yada yada. And then the girls
45:27
Speaker 2: go to New Orleans, but Taylor dips out, and Demi
45:30
Speaker 2: is just relieved by that, of course. And that's when
45:32
Speaker 2: the group gets a group text from Jen, and it's
45:36
Speaker 2: like an apology video, and it's very meaningful and everything,
45:39
Speaker 2: and I'm sure it took a lot for Jen to.
45:42
Speaker 1: Do that, you know?
45:43
Speaker 2: But of course, Demi, fan favorite, is just cold as
45:47
Speaker 2: a bitch, and she calls Jen cowardly for crying on camera,
45:51
Speaker 2: which is after everything she's been through.
45:54
Speaker 1: I just, again, no respect.
45:56
Speaker 2: And in other news, they go to a burlesque show,
45:59
Speaker 2: and a performer pulls out a joint, and that's when
46:01
Speaker 2: Layla takes a hit without hesitation, which is unexpectedly iconic. Meanwhile,
46:05
Speaker 2: Taylor just is dealing with passive-aggressive family drama back in Utah.
46:09
Speaker 2: And then one of the weirdest, most tone-deaf parts of
46:13
Speaker 2: the show is this pregnancy roulette game. And it's tone-deaf because,
46:17
Speaker 2: as we know, Demi, although, you know, not fan favorite,
46:20
Speaker 2: is struggling with fertility, so this is just so awkward
46:24
Speaker 2: and awful to watch, because Michaela and Macy are pregnant,
46:27
Speaker 2: and then obviously Demi is not, and a lot of
46:30
Speaker 2: the other girls are not, and it's just like, the
46:32
Speaker 2: whole thing was just labeled as cruel and deeply insensitive,
46:35
Speaker 2: which I agree it is. And they all discuss the
46:37
Speaker 2: young woman's program for Mormon girls, and Jesse questions doctrine, like,
46:41
Speaker 2: there were no phones then, and they unpack sealing, which
46:44
Speaker 2: is interesting. Like, Jesse is sealed to her ex-husband, and
46:48
Speaker 2: Miranda had her sealing removed and lost eternal ties to
46:52
Speaker 2: her kids, which is a crazy thought to think about.
46:55
Speaker 2: And then men can be sealed to multiple women, this
46:57
Speaker 2: is kind of something I was talking about before, like,
46:59
Speaker 2: In the afterlife, you'll always be sealed to someone you marry,
47:02
Speaker 2: even if you divorce them, but men will always have
47:05
Speaker 2: multiple wives kind of thing.
47:07
Speaker 1: It's strange.
47:08
Speaker 2: Just the general afterlife doctrine is deeply sexist, basically. It
47:12
Speaker 2: was definitely one of the most raw and eye-opening scenes
47:15
Speaker 2: of the series. And then Jesse tries to reconcile with Demi,
47:18
Speaker 2: and Demi just denies any sort of wrongdoing and offers
47:22
Speaker 2: gaslighting and blame-shifting, basically. And then Jesse gave free glam
47:26
Speaker 2: to everyone, And Demi told others to avoid Jesse's salon altogether,
47:31
Speaker 2: that she can't actually do hair that well. And it
47:33
Speaker 2: was just like one of the coldest moments in reality
47:35
Speaker 2: TV betrayal. Like, I don't know how the shift happened
47:38
Speaker 2: with Demi, but she deserves the back of the poster
47:40
Speaker 2: is all I'm saying. And then at a dinner, Demi
47:44
Speaker 2: announces that Taylor is not invited to her Christmas party.
47:47
Speaker 1: Oh, oh no.
47:50
Speaker 2: And she proposes a vote of no confidence to oust
47:53
Speaker 2: Taylor from Nom Talk. And the criteria was, does Taylor contribute?
47:58
Speaker 2: Does she reflect group values? And is she a liability?
48:01
Speaker 2: And Demi overall threatens, if Taylor's in, then I'm out.
48:04
Speaker 2: And no one supports her. And Macy exposes Demi's sabotage
48:10
Speaker 2: of Jesse's business, like trying to make everybody not go
48:12
Speaker 2: to her business and everything and shit-talking her best friend, basically.
48:15
Speaker 2: And Demi's only ally at this point is Whitney, who
48:18
Speaker 2: isn't even on the board, because remember, she got voted out.
48:21
Speaker 2: So it's all pretty funny and karma's a bitch, basically.
48:24
Speaker 2: And then we get to the finale, where the drama
48:25
Speaker 2: just picks back up with Layla visiting Taylor in Park City,
48:29
Speaker 2: bringing her a bayonet mix and worse.
48:32
Speaker 1: News.
48:33
Speaker 2: Because Demi had issued an ultimatum that could impact Taylor's
48:36
Speaker 2: custody arrangement. And she told her that Taylor had also
48:38
Speaker 2: been disinvited to Demi's Christmas party. And they joke about
48:41
Speaker 2: crashing the event, injecting Mean Girls energy into the Mormon
48:44
Speaker 2: mom sphere, which, girl.
48:45
Speaker 1: We're so past that. We are so past that by now.
48:49
Speaker 2: And that's when we cut to said party, which is
48:51
Speaker 2: a lavish affair full of glam meatballs and awkward tension,
48:55
Speaker 2: especially when Leigh-Anne actually shows up and her outfit is
48:58
Speaker 2: more PTA chic than party crasher glam, but she still
49:02
Speaker 2: goes head to head with Demi in a fiery argument
49:05
Speaker 2: over past betrayals, including the infamous CMA's dramas. And it
49:08
Speaker 2: all just cultivates with Demi yelling that Taylor needs therapy
49:12
Speaker 2: and to.
49:13
Speaker 1: Be a f * * * ing mom. Bitch, what?
49:16
Speaker 2: And Whitney and Brett seem to be the only ones
49:18
Speaker 2: shocked by the spectacle, while the rest of the crowd
49:20
Speaker 2: just pretends that the snow machine makes it all okay. Meanwhile,
49:23
Speaker 2: Macy actually takes a really heavy turn, and she visits
49:25
Speaker 2: the parents of her late boyfriend, Eric, who died in
49:28
Speaker 2: a car crash while she was pregnant with their son,
49:30
Speaker 2: which is horrible. And Macy just admits that she never
49:33
Speaker 2: properly grieved. And later, Michaela actually accompanies her to Eric's
49:37
Speaker 2: crash site where Macy breaks down over the unresolved emotions
49:40
Speaker 2: and the fact that she found out that he died
49:42
Speaker 2: via an Instagram post, which I can't even, I.
49:45
Speaker 1: Can't even imagine. It's just terrible.
49:47
Speaker 2: Again, one of like the, the, another deep raw moment
49:51
Speaker 2: in the show that is, you know, what, that's three
49:54
Speaker 2: out of like, 10 episodes and so still grazed over.
49:58
Speaker 2: And then elsewhere, Jesse and Macy bond over friendship dynamics
50:02
Speaker 2: and Jesse recovering from that thyroid scare decides that life
50:05
Speaker 2: is too short to deal with the Demi's manipulation bullshit.
50:08
Speaker 2: And she finally gets why Macy avoids choosing sides and
50:11
Speaker 2: values peace and book deals. But everybody's kind of figuring
50:14
Speaker 2: out like where loyalty lies and if they're actually friends
50:19
Speaker 2: or not. And at the mom talk board meeting, three
50:21
Speaker 2: hot topics are up for vote. Miranda is quietly granted
50:25
Speaker 2: probationary membership, and Whitney is reinstated despite Taylor feeling betrayed,
50:30
Speaker 2: and Demi and Taylor argue again about loyalty, friendship, and
50:35
Speaker 2: past drama, and Jesse drops the mic in a confessional
50:38
Speaker 2: saying Demi talks like a therapist to seem right.
50:42
Speaker 1: Even when she's wrong. Damn! Loved it.
50:45
Speaker 2: And finally, in a really bizarre twist, Layla meets up
50:49
Speaker 2: with Marciano from Vanderpump Villa at a ski resort. And
50:53
Speaker 2: he claims he came sniffing around after hearing about women's
50:57
Speaker 2: swingers and tried to actually hook up with Demi. And
50:59
Speaker 2: then with suspiciously reality TV polished gestures, he implied he
51:04
Speaker 2: and Jesse had an affair.
51:06
Speaker 1: What? And Layla is just stunned. She's like, what?
51:09
Speaker 2: And the show just ends, just dripping in delusion and
51:12
Speaker 2: clout-chasing energy with the words, to be continued.
51:16
Speaker 1: That's the show. I don't know.
51:18
Speaker 2: If there's a season three, I don't think I can
51:21
Speaker 2: handle it. I damn near fell asleep during every episode
51:24
Speaker 2: and I got distracted and I was, I don't know.
51:27
Speaker 2: I just, I get so uncomfortable. I get secondhand embarrassment
51:30
Speaker 2: so much when I watch shows and I got it
51:32
Speaker 2: so much during this, like whether it was for the girls,
51:35
Speaker 2: like when the guys were talking to each other or
51:37
Speaker 2: the girls talking about the girls about each other.
51:40
Speaker 1: And like just the surface level bullshit and everything.
51:42
Speaker 2: There were obviously a few moments that I think were
51:44
Speaker 2: really deep and important. Like Jen's pregnancy kind of realization
51:50
Speaker 2: and depression. I think that's very, very real. Taylor dealing
51:53
Speaker 2: with her family drama and being talked down to by
51:56
Speaker 2: everyone around her. I think that was like very eyeopening
51:58
Speaker 2: and kind of scary. And there are like a few
52:00
Speaker 2: other moments, but overall, I.
52:02
Speaker 1: Mean, it's hard. I'm thirsty and I think I'm gonna
52:06
Speaker 1: go get a swig. Just kidding.
52:08
Speaker 2: I don't have one by me. I don't know if
52:09
Speaker 2: you guys like these kind of videos. I think it's
52:11
Speaker 2: kind of interesting sometimes. Let me know if there's any
52:14
Speaker 2: other shows that you want me to dive into. I
52:16
Speaker 2: actually watched the Paul Brother season and I was going
52:20
Speaker 2: to do a video on that, but I decided not to.
52:21
Speaker 2: But let me know if you actually want to see
52:23
Speaker 2: that because I have thoughts on the Paul Brothers. But yeah,
52:26
Speaker 2: you know, overall, I just think reality TV is crazy
52:31
Speaker 2: and stupid and mostly garbage, but I also kind of
52:35
Speaker 2: love it.
52:35
Speaker 1: Let me know what you thought of the show and
52:36
Speaker 1: I'm done.