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Full Show Podcast: 08 July 2025 · Early Edition with Ryan Bridge

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Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the insight. Andrew Dickens on
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Speaker 1: and try this winter news Talks they'd be well.
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Speaker 2: Good morning to you and welcome to the program. Thank
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Speaker 2: you for choosing early edition. So in the next sixty minutes,
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Speaker 2: it's going to become easier to open a bank account
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Speaker 2: for the kids. Why was it so hard in the
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Speaker 2: first place? And are there any other changes we can make?
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Speaker 2: We'll have that story for you in ten minutes. Mardie
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Speaker 2: enterprises are absolutely rocking in this economy, so what can
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Speaker 2: all businesses learn from them? Will have that story for
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Speaker 2: you in fifteen Yeah, the mushroom trial ends in Australia
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Speaker 2: with a guilty verdict. Now what's next and how are
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Speaker 2: the family's feeling and what is the capital of New Zealand.
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Speaker 2: We'll have these stories plus correspondents from around the world.
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Speaker 2: We're going to America today and correspondents from right around
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Speaker 2: if you want two Dickens at Newstalks atb dot co
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Speaker 2: dot MS. Good morning, it's eight after five the agenda,
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Speaker 2: and it's Tuesday, the eighth of July. To the States,
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Speaker 2: a desperate search and rescue mission is ongoing in the
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Speaker 2: Texas Hill Country. More than eighty people have been confirmed
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Speaker 2: dead and more storms are expected over the next forty
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Speaker 2: eight hours. He has sent into tech Cruz.
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Speaker 3: Look the agony that Texas is feeling right now. Jack.
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Speaker 1: There aren't words to describe, and our state is breathing
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Speaker 1: at a level.
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Speaker 3: This tragedy hits close to home for.
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Speaker 4: So many, but so many of us, so many families
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Speaker 4: in Dallas and Fort Worth and Houston and all.
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Speaker 5: Across the state.
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Speaker 2: To the United Kingdom and a memorial service to the
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Speaker 2: twentieth anniversary of the seven seven London bombings has taken
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Speaker 2: place at Saint Paul's Cathedral. Survivors and emergency workers who
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Speaker 2: responded on the day were amongst those who attended, alongside
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Speaker 2: the Prime Minister, Kair Starmer and the Mayor of London.
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Speaker 2: Said Dieck Cahn, Jesus.
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Speaker 6: So have no fear of them, for nothing is covered
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Speaker 6: up that will not be uncovered, and nothing to secret
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Speaker 6: that will not become known. What I say to you
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Speaker 6: in the dark, tell in the light, and what you
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Speaker 6: hair whispered to proclaim from the housetops.
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Speaker 2: And listen to the echo in that cathedral. Events have
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Speaker 2: also taken place across the four Sights in central London
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Speaker 2: where the bombings took place and staying in London. Wimbledon
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Speaker 2: organizers have apologized after its electronic line calling system malfunction
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Speaker 2: during a match. A former French Open champion from Russia
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Speaker 2: with a name that's unpronounceable, was one point away from
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Speaker 2: winning when the glitch occurred. Tournament organizers have said human
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Speaker 2: error meant the system was turned off during the match. Meanwhile,
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Speaker 2: the other day a player was forced to lift her
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Speaker 2: skirt to prove that she had dark underwear on. I'll
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Speaker 2: tell you Wimbedon's lost the plot. Is there anything more
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Speaker 2: boring than yet another debate about our interest rates? But
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Speaker 2: here I go again, speculating about what the Reserve Bank
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Speaker 2: will do tomorrow. Now, for this entire decade, talk about
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Speaker 2: the OCR has been at the forefront of our discussions
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Speaker 2: about the economy. At the start of the pandemic, the
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Speaker 2: bank loosened the OCR too much. The economy when stratisferic
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Speaker 2: then as the inevitable hangover seid and interest rates rocketed
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Speaker 2: too high. The recession that cause went on so long
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Speaker 2: that we yearn for a reduction. It came, and maybe
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Speaker 2: we've turned a corner, but maybe we haven't. At this moment,
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Speaker 2: our farmers are seeing good days because of global factors.
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Speaker 2: Tourism and international students are coming back. House prices have stabilized,
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Speaker 2: but any green shoots in any other sectors have been contained.
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Speaker 2: For many reasons, so much of our economy sits in
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Speaker 2: our funk. Confidence is low. We all seem to be waiting,
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Speaker 2: wanting a little push to get back onto an even keel,
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Speaker 2: which is why when the RB considers the cost of
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Speaker 2: our money, this wins. It might be a welcome fillip
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Speaker 2: for many doing so tough if we drop the interest rate,
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Speaker 2: but that's not on the books. So since last August,
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Speaker 2: in rates have been cut by two hundred and twenty
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Speaker 2: five basis points. They wear at five point five percent.
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Speaker 2: They're now at three point two five percent, But with
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Speaker 2: inflation getting a second wind, it's thought that there will
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Speaker 2: be no change to the rate, But maybe a little
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Speaker 2: push is just what we need. A reduction to a
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Speaker 2: flat three percent. It reads, well, it might give businesses
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Speaker 2: a boost and for summer lifeline. It's only reckless if
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Speaker 2: we keep going even lower, And why should we do that?
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Speaker 2: And with the world so uncertain, we sit in wobbly
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Speaker 2: times now. I'm no economic expert and I might not
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Speaker 2: see all the unintended consequences. But I'm no fool either,
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Speaker 2: So why not drop the rate by zero point two
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Speaker 2: five percent? Get it on three and then's start working
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Speaker 2: for a fun summer. I don't think that's going to happen,
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Speaker 2: but maybe it should. It's eleven after five and this
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Speaker 2: is News Talk ZBB. I had no idea. It's so
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Speaker 2: hard for kids to open a bank account. I remember
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Speaker 2: when I was young, I had a bank account. At
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Speaker 2: the age of five a win to primary school. The
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Speaker 2: ASB Bank turned up and said, would you like a
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Speaker 2: bank book? I love a bank book, Thank you very much,
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Speaker 2: and I got a bank account. I'm still with the
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Speaker 2: same bank, but not these days. So we'll talk about
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Speaker 2: that and how they've changed things next here on News Talks.
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Speaker 2: Fourteen minutes after five. Here's something to get you going.
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Speaker 2: Should just cinder a doing comeback? For this Commission of
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Speaker 2: Inquiry into COVID be asked to actually testify. What do
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Speaker 2: you think you can text me? Ninety two ninety two. Meanwhile,
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Speaker 2: changes to the Anti Money Laundering Act will make it
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Speaker 2: easier for parents to open bank accounts for the kids.
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Speaker 2: Now adults and children don't have to verify their address.
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Speaker 2: We're opening a new account at a local branch. Jeff
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Speaker 2: King is the founder of my Mahi. This is a
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Speaker 2: platform to support children with banking education and it joins
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Speaker 2: me now. Good morning to here, Jeff, thank you for joining
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Speaker 2: us today.
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Speaker 3: Good morning, thank you.
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Speaker 2: Was it a bit of overkill to crack down on
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Speaker 2: kids having banking?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm a little un sure. There's it's a little
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Speaker 3: scant on detail at the moment, but I think anything
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Speaker 3: that puts a focus on youth banking and the issues
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Speaker 3: around it, I think it's got to be a good thing.
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Speaker 2: Why were children's banking rules under the Anti Money Laundering Law?
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Speaker 5: Do you know?
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Speaker 3: No, I've got no idea. And then interesting thing is,
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Speaker 3: you know you think back to you know, maybe twenty
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Speaker 3: thirty years ago, New Zealand used to be so good
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Speaker 3: at youth banking. Every kid in New Zealand had a
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Speaker 3: bank account and all the rest of it. I don't
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Speaker 3: know whether you remember it, but on my day it
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Speaker 3: was the postbook, etc. And everyone had an account. And
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Speaker 3: there was a report that came out from the Reserve
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Speaker 3: Bank not so long ago into basic bank accounts and
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Speaker 3: it talked about that as a factor, whereas today it's
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Speaker 3: quite a different story. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, Look I had a bank account from five with
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Speaker 2: the ASB. I also had a little plastic cash and
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Speaker 2: you know, think to put my coins in as well.
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Speaker 2: And you know what, I'm still banking with the ASB
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Speaker 2: with the same bank account number that I have from
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Speaker 2: those days.
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Speaker 3: So yeah, and a lot of people say that that's
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Speaker 3: exactly right. But we've lost that tradition in New Zealand,
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Speaker 3: and I think if anything, you know, we did a
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Speaker 3: survey two years ago that showed our audience within the
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Speaker 3: schools that we had, you know, thirty percent of young
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Speaker 3: people didn't have an account.
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Speaker 2: So has this been something people have been calling for?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it has, and that's sort of the reason we're
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Speaker 3: actually we ended up down this rabbit hole because school's
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Speaker 3: reached out to us. We have a digital ID within
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Speaker 3: my money. Think of a school id like on a
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Speaker 3: plastic card, but you know, one that students can use
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Speaker 3: on their phone. And after we'd created that, we've got
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Speaker 3: a bit of mone mentum with it. Schools were starting
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Speaker 3: to contact us to say, surely, you know, can you
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Speaker 3: get into banking now? Can you help us use the
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Speaker 3: idea card and mamahi to set up a bank account?
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Speaker 3: And we thought, oh yeah, how hard can that be? Well? Goodness,
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Speaker 3: three years later it was still battling on.
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Speaker 2: You live in a country that loves bureaucracy, you know
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Speaker 2: what I mean. But anyway, look, is there are there
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Speaker 2: any other sectors of our society that could do with
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Speaker 2: a rationalization of these money laundering rules and access to
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Speaker 2: a bank account?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, like I think that, you know, there's conversations and
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Speaker 3: there was a submission about two weeks ago to the
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Speaker 3: Reserve Bank around basic bank accounts and I'm assuming as
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Speaker 3: part of that the changes around that basic bank account
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Speaker 3: the aml CFT laws will be changed. But I think
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Speaker 3: you know, from looking at it from our space, obviously
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Speaker 3: we work with schools and particularly teenagers. You know, they
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Speaker 3: are probably the largest group in the country and that
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Speaker 3: will impact them the most. And the idea is is
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Speaker 3: if all young people had a bank account and left
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Speaker 3: school with a bank account, I think New Zealand would
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Speaker 3: be in a pretty good place, you know, particularly you
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Speaker 3: look at young people fifteen sixteen looking to get their
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Speaker 3: first part time jobs. They need an account, and at
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Speaker 3: the moment, it's a it's a really it's a difficult
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Speaker 3: process to go to.
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Speaker 2: How about homeless people or people just out of prison.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right, and I think there's there's some work
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Speaker 3: being done around that as well. But I think when
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Speaker 3: you look at the statistics and look at the percentage,
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Speaker 3: I think the greatest percentages is around youth banking. And
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Speaker 3: I think the other one looking at this amendment that's
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Speaker 3: been made in the release that came out yesterday, you know,
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Speaker 3: in that Reserve Bank report that I mentioned earlier, you know,
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Speaker 3: they said fifty percent of branches had closed in the
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Speaker 3: last ten years. And if that's what it's looking like,
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Speaker 3: what is banking going to look like in another five
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Speaker 3: or ten years. It's not going to be in branch
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Speaker 3: And I think the thing for us is we would
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Speaker 3: like to see that there. You know, although this is
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Speaker 3: a step in the good, in the direction, we'd like
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Speaker 3: to see more of a focus on digital. How are
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Speaker 3: you digitally on board? You know? How do we make
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Speaker 3: that the norm?
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Speaker 2: When was the last time I ever used cash?
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Speaker 7: You know?
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Speaker 2: When we are always using the cards? The banking is critical.
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Speaker 2: So I thank you so much. Jeff King, he is
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Speaker 2: the founder of my Mahi. And it's now nineteen minutes
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Speaker 2: after five. So the Maori economy is doing amazingly well.
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Speaker 2: Can I find you a figure? Yeah, here we go.
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Speaker 2: Since twenty eighteen, the Mari economy has grown from seventeen
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Speaker 2: billion to thirty two billion and twenty twenty three and
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Speaker 2: of course here we are in twenty twenty five is
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Speaker 2: even bigger. So what are they doing? That's so good?
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Speaker 2: We'll talk about this in a month. It's news Talks
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Speaker 2: just sitting there are doing. Grant Robinson, Chris Hopkins, Ayisha Vadel,
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Speaker 2: and Ashley Bloomfield should be questioned hard about what they did.
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Speaker 2: Most of them will be but we all know they
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Speaker 2: either won't show up or will sit there and waffle
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Speaker 2: for hours and days and weeks and say absolutely nothing.
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Speaker 2: It's five twenty two. New research by a n Z
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Speaker 2: shows EWE owned commercial entities are outpacing some of the
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Speaker 2: country's largest corporations. The data shows that Maori enterprises have
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Speaker 2: fared better in the economic downturn and are emerging in
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Speaker 2: good shape. And it follows an MB report earlier this
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Speaker 2: year which showed the mary economy more than doubling in
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Speaker 2: the five years to twenty twenty three. So doctor Jason
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Speaker 2: Meeker is the professor of Maori Management at Auckland University.
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Speaker 2: Good morning to you.
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Speaker 4: Jason, Glad Andrew.
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Speaker 2: What are they doing so well?
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Speaker 4: Well? I guess, I guess, sir, they're developing a you know,
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Speaker 4: a scale a confidence and growing in their ability to
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Speaker 4: you know, to manage assets and to grow assets of
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Speaker 4: the scale that they are. It's certainly, uh, it's through
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Speaker 4: three settlements tribes are able to have been able to
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Speaker 4: you know, to I guess be in control of assets
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Speaker 4: of that scale that you know, and and they're in
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Speaker 4: the process of really sort of catching up on a
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Speaker 4: one hundred and eighty years of development as a result
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Speaker 4: of those settlements.
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Speaker 2: So many other, many other, many, many other you know,
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Speaker 2: other businesses not Mali or e we led businesses you know,
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Speaker 2: funded fund from the treaty settlements have had that terrible time.
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Speaker 2: But somehow Mali is doing well. And do they have
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Speaker 2: a trick to their business acumen?
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Speaker 4: Well, they're really they're really focused on being prudent, being
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Speaker 4: careful because you know, these settlements, these treaty settlements are
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Speaker 4: sort of full and final and this is their one shot.
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Speaker 4: So they're really doing all they can to be careful,
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Speaker 4: to be but also to be innovative in terms of
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Speaker 4: how they manage these assets. So they're increasingly being i
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Speaker 4: guess sort of taking them more hands on approach to
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Speaker 4: managing their assets. Initially starting out as cash engites, but
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Speaker 4: being more involved in actively managing their assets and as
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Speaker 4: a result getting better attends.
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Speaker 2: They also have Maria Authorities benefit from a concessionary tax
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Speaker 2: rate of seventeen and a half percent. Now that's lower
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Speaker 2: than the standard company tax rate. So is this actually
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Speaker 2: a proof that a lower corporate tax rate actually helps business?
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Speaker 4: The man authority tax rate is lower than the standard
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Speaker 4: corporate tax rate because the you know, the beneficiaries that
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Speaker 4: their own shares and interests in marty Land tend to
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Speaker 4: have a lower marginal tax rate, and so it makes
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Speaker 4: sense for them to have a concessionary test rait. And
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Speaker 4: so you know that's that's definitely of assistance to Mary
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Speaker 4: Authorities who are administering marty Land, which has a lot
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Speaker 4: of other kinds of challenges associated with it, including difficulties
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Speaker 4: in terms of access in finance and and and raising
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Speaker 4: debt on on marty Land. So you know that that
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Speaker 4: that's that's why we sort of had that sort of
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Speaker 4: different approach to Mary Authority tax rate.
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Speaker 2: Jason, thank you so much for for your inside today.
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Speaker 2: And yes, I've had a bit to do with Tainoi
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Speaker 2: and yet they do actually manage their assets very well.
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Speaker 2: A load of people are texting me right now. Well,
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Speaker 2: if you don't pay tax, obviously it's really easy for business.
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Speaker 2: But as I point out, a Maria authorities are subject
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Speaker 2: to income tax laws like everybody else. They must file
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Speaker 2: annual income tax returns. Yes, they do have a special
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Speaker 2: concessionary tax rate of seventeen point five percent, but yeah,
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Speaker 2: they're going for it, and that's that's a good thing
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Speaker 2: for everyone.
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Speaker 2: I think she should. I could understand though if she doesn't,
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Speaker 2: because just as she became the symbol of our successful
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Speaker 2: super majority in Labour's second term, she also then became
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Speaker 2: But remember, she will not escape the inquiry. No one will.
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Speaker 2: There's enough people being called to give us the full
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Speaker 2: and frank dissection of everything that happened at the beginning
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Speaker 2: of this decade, and that is important because there will
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Speaker 2: a bit later on, going to tell you what I
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Speaker 2: did last night, and then we're off to America, the
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Speaker 2: attacks consumerism, and it's always amusing after seeing this critical
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Speaker 2: art about our voracius need to buy stuff that you
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Speaker 2: end out exiting through the gift shop where you can
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Speaker 2: buy stuff that kind of undermines, that have images on
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Speaker 2: them that kind of undermine the whole modern desire to
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Speaker 2: buy stuff. But you buy that stuff which has that
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Speaker 2: stuff on it, and you know what, they know it too,
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Speaker 2: because the film all about Banks is in fact called
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Speaker 2: Exit through the Gift Shop. Funny, smart, very very good.
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Speaker 2: Can I recommend the show if you're visiting Auckland and
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Speaker 2: after you've been to the Banks Sea, you can pop
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Speaker 2: up the road to see an outstanding collection of modern
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Speaker 2: greats at the Art Gallery. So, with all due respect
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Speaker 2: to Wellington, I have to say I'm sorry Auckland is
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Speaker 2: currently the arts capital of New Zealand. I'm de Cinder,
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Speaker 2: Adirn Colin says, I think in admission of mistakes by
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Speaker 2: just Cinder I Durm will go a long way to
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Speaker 2: dampening some of the hatred toward her. It's going to
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Speaker 2: have to have them at some stage or she won't
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Speaker 2: be comfortable here. As time goes on and Steve reckons
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Speaker 2: a brand de Cinda is too big to fail on
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Speaker 2: the world stage. She ain't coming back. It is twenty
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Speaker 2: one to six.
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Speaker 1: The first word on the News of the Day early
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Speaker 1: edition Andrew Dickins and x Fole Insulation keeping Kiwi Holmes
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Speaker 1: warm and dry. This winter news talk said be right.
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Speaker 2: Around the country. We go to Dunedin first callum productor
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Speaker 2: good morning to you morning. Andrew that while Freedom Campus
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Speaker 2: is back.
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Speaker 5: Yes.
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Speaker 9: Queenstown Lakes District Councils proposed by law will allow self
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Speaker 9: contained vehicles to camp for free for a maximum of
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Speaker 9: two nights every thirty days. This is across one hundred
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Speaker 9: and fifty eight designated car parks and the likes of Queenstown,
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Speaker 9: Monica and Aratown.
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Speaker 2: It's the third attempt at.
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Speaker 9: Getting this by law across the line, with the previous
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Speaker 9: one deemed invalid by the Court. Of course, this is
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Speaker 9: a big issue for Queenstown. It has the most freedom
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Speaker 9: campus of anywhere in New Zealand, so they have to
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Speaker 9: get it right. Mayor Glenn Lewis says he doesn't think
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Speaker 9: that this will impact visit in numbers, but will instead
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Speaker 9: play stronger boundaries to manage these visitors better.
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Speaker 2: How's your weather.
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Speaker 9: Mainly fine for Dunedin today the art shower tonight with
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Speaker 9: the nor easterly strengthening the heights of day ten.
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Speaker 2: Play some Lewis Capaldi for me, Ma, thank you, Hey
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Speaker 2: Chleas from christ Jurs. Good morning, good morning. This is
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Speaker 2: a terribly sad story a popular post. He has tragically
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Speaker 2: died on his last day at work.
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Speaker 10: This is terribly sad. Andrew look posty David Bullock has
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Speaker 10: been identified as the man hit and killed by a
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Speaker 10: car near Leiston on Saturday night. It was his final
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Speaker 10: delivery after thirty years with New Zealand post He was
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Speaker 10: actually doing a last minute drop off to a home
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Speaker 10: about thirty kilometers southwest of christ Church. His van, though,
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Speaker 10: got stuck in some mud. The seventy eight year old
21:28
Speaker 10: was there with his son in law. They decided to
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Speaker 10: walk to a nearby home for some help and that's
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Speaker 10: when they were struck by another vehicle. David was killed
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Speaker 10: while his son in law was taken to hospital seriously injured.
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Speaker 10: The postman was hugely popular, As I said, he also
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Speaker 10: had a Queen's Service Medal for his contribution to the
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Speaker 10: sport of indoor bowls. A police investigation is on going
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Speaker 10: into the incidents.
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Speaker 2: Very sad. Now, how's your weather?
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Speaker 10: A bit of frost about today, simcloud increasing this morning,
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Speaker 10: isolated showers, easterlies and ten to Wellington.
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Speaker 2: Max told good morning, good morning. Tell me about the
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Speaker 2: Wellington ed weaight times?
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Speaker 11: Yeah, look like a lot of emergency emergency departments in
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Speaker 11: New Zealand. Wellington Hospital can be pretty abysmal. The numbers
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Speaker 11: prove it the worst ed weight times in the country.
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Speaker 11: Less than half of people, less than half of people
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Speaker 11: through the doors are being seen within six hours. Forty
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Speaker 11: nine percent is pretty astonishing. The government's target is ninety
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Speaker 11: five percent. So the story in the post this morning.
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Speaker 11: Wellington Hospital has been reducing the number of maternity beds
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Speaker 11: to use them for ED patients. There was an angry
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Speaker 11: meeting where staff were told of this trial. Apparently one
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Speaker 11: concern is that now that patients going through still births
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Speaker 11: and now with an earshot of new mothers and crying babies,
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Speaker 11: it is just a trial at this point at the
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Speaker 11: hospital to try to urgently get those ED numbers up.
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Speaker 11: But staff not happy all.
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Speaker 2: Right, And how to weather for Wellington.
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Speaker 11: A cold start but mostly fine today thirteen the high
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Speaker 11: in the city we.
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Speaker 2: Go neither let's you mina good morning to you good morning.
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Speaker 2: So this is a little bit complicated. Nati FA to
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Speaker 2: Ak have won an environmental court appeal recognizing it has
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Speaker 2: the dominant EWE relationship with the land in the water
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Speaker 2: around Auckland's west An Marina.
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Speaker 12: Correct Andrew, that's right, because what had happened was that
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Speaker 12: back in twenty nineteen Auckland Council's form of development arm
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Speaker 12: that's Ekipanuku one resource concent to expand the marina. Now,
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Speaker 12: among the conditions there were that Ekipanuku invited nineteen Hapu
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Speaker 12: and Ewe to establish a forum. But you see what's
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Speaker 12: happening is that Nati pha toke set it was the
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Speaker 12: dominant EWE in the area and all nineteen shouldn't be
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Speaker 12: treated the same. The move was opposed by the other EWE,
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Speaker 12: of course, but the Environment Court ruled in ud our
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Speaker 12: case favor. All right, how's Orkand's weather cloudy or chaw
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Speaker 12: north of the city from the afternoon Auckland's high fifteen.
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Speaker 2: Now go Wellington. Of course I mentioned the fact that
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Speaker 2: the art of BANKSI is here and this incredible modern
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Speaker 2: giants exhibition at these art gallery is here as well.
23:55
Speaker 2: I said, Orkland is the art capital. Well Wellington's striking
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Speaker 2: back and the banks exhibition was in Wellington months ago,
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Speaker 2: You dummy and our fan with a heavy tongue and
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Speaker 2: kauf someone writes this, Lee writes, cough Andrew, you realize
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Speaker 2: we had the Banksy first, putting Wellington then first as
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Speaker 2: the art capital. Thank you Lee. Maybe it was then,
24:16
Speaker 2: but now baby now or conroll rules. We got two
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Speaker 2: of them and they're big, all right. The Texas floods.
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Speaker 2: We're going to talk about that, and of course the
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Speaker 2: big one, Donald Trump and Benjamin Ettina, who are meeting
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Speaker 2: to address the Guards of War. Details next with Kate
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Speaker 2: Fisher and later Donald DeMaio out of Australia with the
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Speaker 2: wrap up the dessert you could almost say of the
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Speaker 2: mushroom trial.
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Speaker 1: International correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of mind
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Speaker 1: for New Zealand business.
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Speaker 5: It is now.
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Speaker 2: Fourteen minutes to six. Cave Fisher from the United States.
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Speaker 2: Good morning to you.
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Speaker 13: Good morning.
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Speaker 2: These Texas floods, the whole world is crying. More than
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Speaker 2: eighty confirmed dead, at least seventy five in Kirkcaut County alone,
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Speaker 2: and it it doesn't look like anything could have been
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Speaker 2: done about it except a bit of weather forecast.
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Speaker 13: Yeah, it's tragic and it just seems to get worse
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Speaker 13: by the second. We've just been listening to Caroline Levitt,
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Speaker 13: the press secretary for Donald Trump, who said it's now
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Speaker 13: at least ninety one people who are confirmed dead, as
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Speaker 13: you say, at least seventy five of them in that
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Speaker 13: county region, which is where that girl's summer camp missed
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Speaker 13: it camp was being held, and at least twenty seven
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Speaker 13: of the victims are people who are attending that camp,
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Speaker 13: so they are children, and we understand there's still ten
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Speaker 13: children and one counselor who are missing from that camp
25:37
Speaker 13: as rescue teams continue to work for the fourth day
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Speaker 13: to try to find survivors and bodies very tragically from this,
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Speaker 13: and as you say, Donald Trump himself saying that this
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Speaker 13: was a once in one hundred year catastrophe and that
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Speaker 13: nobody could have predicted it, at the same time as
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Speaker 13: Democrats are raising questions about the fact that he has
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Speaker 13: cut jobs from the National Weather Service and is planning
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Speaker 13: to cut jobs from the Federal Emergency Management Agency who've
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Speaker 13: been on the ground helping with rescue efforts. So there
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Speaker 13: is definitely a kind of a partisan war brewing over
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Speaker 13: whether there were any of this could have been kind
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Speaker 13: of mitigated by having more staff. The National Weather Service
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Speaker 13: say they did have enough staff that day, but clearly
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Speaker 13: that is not stopping Democrats, particularly from questioning Donald Trump's cuts.
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Speaker 2: Yes, we all need a villain, we all need to
26:32
Speaker 2: blame somebody, but there's other things as well. River management well,
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Speaker 2: we live in a very floody country in New Zealand
26:36
Speaker 2: as well. And yes, sometimes it's about with the forecasting, yiss,
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Speaker 2: it's about the management about rivers. But at the same time,
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Speaker 2: let's not forget that it's still quite fresh. And as
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Speaker 2: you now say, ninety one did now Donald Trump and
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Speaker 2: Benjamint and Yah who are meeting to address the Gaza war.
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Speaker 13: That's right, Nettaya, who will be here at the White
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Speaker 13: House in a few hours time to have dinner with
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Speaker 13: Donald Trump and a meeting. We're told that cameras will
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Speaker 13: not be around for that, which is fairly unusual. Usually
27:04
Speaker 13: Donald Trump likes to kind of speak on camera when
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Speaker 13: he has foreign leaders to visit. Of course, that could change,
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Speaker 13: but at the moment, that's what we think. The roads
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Speaker 13: around here have all been closed down ahead of this.
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Speaker 13: Garza is certainly high on the agenda. Donald Trump desperate
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Speaker 13: to try to find an end to the war there.
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Speaker 13: He's been promising that since he took office. He wants
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Speaker 13: Israel and her ass to sign onto a deal that
27:28
Speaker 13: he is in the works right now, but he seems
27:30
Speaker 13: less confident that's going to happen today. In fact, his
27:34
Speaker 13: special end voice, Seve wik Cooff is heading to Doha
27:37
Speaker 13: to carry on these negotiations later in the week, which
27:39
Speaker 13: suggests they're not ready to unveil any kind of secured
27:44
Speaker 13: deal today. But Iran will also be on the agenda.
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Speaker 13: Of course, Israel and the US work together to try
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Speaker 13: to bomb the Iranian nuclear sites, and they will be
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Speaker 13: praising each other at this meeting at the White House.
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Speaker 13: Something of a victory lamp, But underneath that is Donald
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Speaker 13: Trump trying to push for a diplomatic solution to the
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Speaker 13: disagreements with Iran and to end its nuclear program, whereas
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Speaker 13: Benjamin Lettiell, who the Israeli leader, is much more skeptical
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Speaker 13: of that.
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Speaker 2: Yes, and we'll find out that in the fullness of time,
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Speaker 2: whether it is a victory lamp or whether the whole thing,
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Speaker 2: the twelve day War was a draw. But that's for
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Speaker 2: the future. And I thank you Kate Fisher. It's now
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Speaker 2: ten to six news talks that'd be all well talked
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Speaker 2: about it. The mushroom trial in Australia, mushroom cook Aaron
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Speaker 2: Patterson has been found guilty on all charges in her
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Speaker 2: murder trial. The jury took a week to come to
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Speaker 2: a decision, but found her ultimately guilty of the murder
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Speaker 2: of her in laws, Gail and Donald Patterson and Heather Wilkinson,
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Speaker 2: the dinner's guests. Blood was coursing whether Ama toxin, a
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Speaker 2: deadly poison produced by the death cap mushrooms nine to
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Speaker 2: sprout under oak trees of Victoria. So Don, Gale, and
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Speaker 2: Heather died of organ failure, all within a week. Now
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Speaker 2: for more on this, we've got Donna tomorrow on the
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Speaker 2: Langod Morning to your.
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Speaker 7: Donna, Good morning to you.
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Speaker 2: People said that jury took quite a long time, a
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Speaker 2: whole week. What was that about.
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Speaker 7: Well, they're allowed to take as long as they want.
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Speaker 7: So it was about a week of deliberations for the jury,
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Speaker 7: seven men and five women, and they ultimately found the
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Speaker 7: fifty year old guilty of murdering the in laws that
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Speaker 7: you just mentioned, ed Don and Gale Patterson and Heather Wilkinson.
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Speaker 7: He was Gail's sister, younger sister, so donal Gale aged seventy,
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Speaker 7: Heather sixty six years old and has his husband in
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Speaker 7: Wilkinson was the sole survivor of that that lunch. He
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Speaker 7: was not in court on the day of the verdict
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Speaker 7: when it was delivered yesterday, we know that Simon Patterson,
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Speaker 7: the estranged husband of Aaron, was invited to that lunch
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Speaker 7: you might recall, but he canceled the night before because
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Speaker 7: he said he had felt uncome constable.
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Speaker 5: Well, yes.
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Speaker 7: About about attending.
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Speaker 5: So there you go.
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Speaker 7: Take take that with interest. But you know, each day,
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Speaker 7: for more than two months, every seat at that tiny
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Speaker 7: courthouse more wells we tro val in law courts in
30:19
Speaker 7: regional Touria were filled, and we heard that some people
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Speaker 7: were so fascinated by this case that, you know, the
30:25
Speaker 7: general public were telling stories that you know, they gave
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Speaker 7: up work and they, you know, would get there super
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Speaker 7: early to sit in on in court and watch this unfold,
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Speaker 7: watch this trial unfold.
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Speaker 2: Look, it's the same here.
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Speaker 5: Don't worry.
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Speaker 2: Everybody's fascinated here. And of course the passions are high.
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Speaker 2: So the people that thought she was guilty thought she
30:45
Speaker 2: was guilty and thought it would only take everybody twenty
30:48
Speaker 2: minutes to come up with the decision. That's why one
30:50
Speaker 2: week was quite interesting. What can we expect for sentencing, Well.
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Speaker 7: The sentencing data is yet to be determined, but ultimately
31:01
Speaker 7: Aaron Patterson's legal team can appeal. There's a lodge appeal
31:05
Speaker 7: can be lodged and should say she has twenty eight
31:08
Speaker 7: days to begin the process of lodging an appeal according
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Speaker 7: to the Supreme Court of Australia, so her legal team
31:13
Speaker 7: can consider that either to appeal the guilty verdict itself,
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Speaker 7: the sentence, which we don't know what it is yet,
31:20
Speaker 7: or both. Now the grounds for appeal you might be interested.
31:23
Speaker 7: The most common ground is that the verdict was unsatisfactory
31:26
Speaker 7: or unreasonable, and the Court of appeal might find that
31:30
Speaker 7: it just wasn't sufficient to justify a conviction. So interesting
31:36
Speaker 7: that you might note also that no motive was ever
31:39
Speaker 7: provided to the court. I found that fascinating. But the
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Speaker 7: prosecutors described Erin Patterson as a duplicitous liar who prepared
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Speaker 7: a meal with murderous incantent. She showed no emotion when
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Speaker 7: the guilty verdict was maad it down, by.
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Speaker 2: The way, that was a very good sentence to prisiness
31:57
Speaker 2: liar who showed murderous and tent. Donna demoo, I thank
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Speaker 2: you so much. It is now seven minutes to six.
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Speaker 1: News Talks at b the news you need this morning
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Speaker 1: and the in depth analysis earlier this year Andrew Dickens
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Speaker 1: and x full insulation keeping, Kiwi Holmes, warn and dry
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Speaker 1: this winter news talks ad me.
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Speaker 2: So Craig rides with Jainda Ashley and Grant all a
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Speaker 2: while it only leaves Hipkins available to face the music.
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Speaker 2: He was the go to safe pair of hands, minister
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Speaker 2: of everything during that period. Surely he needs to be interviewed.
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Speaker 2: Yes he will, He cannot run away. Yes that's right, Craig,
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Speaker 2: And you're right. But the thing is just it ain't
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Speaker 2: going to come. We know that already. I think what
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Speaker 2: irritates people is that she's more than happy to take
32:34
Speaker 2: credit for the success, but at the moment she still
32:37
Speaker 2: has not apologized for the failures.
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Speaker 5: Did I tell you I'm.
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Speaker 8: Reading her book?
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Speaker 13: Yeah?
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Speaker 2: I know, Yeah, I'm reading.
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Speaker 8: Her book, and I'm just I just last night got
32:45
Speaker 8: up to the bit. I think we're we've just finished
32:47
Speaker 8: dealing with the Mosk attack. Just wrap that up, and
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Speaker 8: I think that we're now going to deal with the COVID.
32:53
Speaker 2: So you'll be disappointed. Well, I left through it and
32:56
Speaker 2: I was disappointed. Now, okay, exactly. Now let's get under
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Speaker 2: your skin. Family Boost.
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Speaker 8: Oh no, I hate the Family Boost? Do you hate
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Speaker 8: the Family Boost?
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Speaker 2: Well, I'm a bit over all that sort of thing.
33:07
Speaker 2: But apparently apparently I'm I'm pay I could get the
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Speaker 2: family boost because apparently I'm not I'm poor. I mean, listen, okay,
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Speaker 2: tell me to twenty nine, right to twenty nine.
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Speaker 8: K tell me if I'm out of touch. But a
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Speaker 8: family on two hundred and twenty nine thousand dollars now
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Speaker 8: qualifies for for state help to pay for early chandhood.
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Speaker 2: I don't know that.
33:26
Speaker 8: I think that a family on two hundred and thirty
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Speaker 8: thousand dollars is poor?
33:29
Speaker 5: Are they poor?
33:30
Speaker 8: If you're not poor, right, that's what welfare is for
33:33
Speaker 8: poor people. If you're not poor, why are we helping you?
33:36
Speaker 8: It doesn't make any sense. We're broke, what are we doing?
33:38
Speaker 2: But you're talking about it on the radio.
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Speaker 8: We're going to talk about this. We're also going to
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Speaker 8: tell you what that mushroom chaffe. There was no outcome
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Speaker 8: other than guilty, and it's the dehydrator that got her
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Speaker 8: in the end of view.
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Speaker 2: But why did it take a week? If it's if
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Speaker 2: it's so sure in your mind, why did it take
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Speaker 2: a week?
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Speaker 8: I just think they liked the hotel.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, very good. Heather dberc Allen in for Mike, Ryan
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