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Above Average Intelligence: Kevin Smith's Podcast & Scientology Test · Multiple Nerdgasm

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  I'm back [ __ ] welcome back been gone for a couple of weeks but finally
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  decided to make another appearance M our listeners were concerned yeah okay Fame
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  has not gone to my head okay that's good because you have become quite famous
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  since uh since you lit since you L that's not even a word
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  since I left the nest is I think what you're going for actually it was since you were here
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  last and since you left got combined got your back then I know thanks buddy
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  welcome to multiple nerdgasm with your hosts Matt Luke and
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  Dan multiple nerdgasm your guide to All
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  Things nerdy I got back from uh La last week
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  mhm and I've just been trying to catch up on sleep has not gone well is that
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  cuz you didn't sleep while you in La I'm not stayed awake that entire time did
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  you do what uh you know everybody does all the tourists in La do uh just get a
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  job get a job in a restaurant and
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  uh oh no I did not get a job there don't worry a lot of people actually no I got
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  interviewed a few times a few times I always get interviewed when I go to La I
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  don't know how it happens had a photographer following me around for a
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  bit okay let's let's break this all down because some pretty interesting stuff
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  happened to you while you were in La so for the listeners who were confused by
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  our round about explanation of it because we were operating under
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  some very little knowledge can you
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  explain to us why you were in America all right the reason I was there is
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  because I wanted to go to the Xbox press briefing cuz that's always been a dream
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  of mine I got a ticket and I went [ __ ] it I'm going so I flew halfway across
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  the world to go to a toour press briefing okay and how long were you
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  there for I ended up being there for a week I was meant to be there for four
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  days but I extended it to so you you flew that way for a 2our press
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  conference that's fine I've flown that distance to watch a movie before so no
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  judgment there um but what did you do with the other 22 hours on that day and
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  the other how long did you say were you there for it you were there for a week
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  the other mathematics hours that you were there yeah correct I did I did a
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  couple things I saw some stuff from Xbox I saw some stuff from EA I went to see a
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  podcast being recorded live mhm mhm and then I just went shopping I've always
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  shopping one what did you buy America's good for shopping shoes shoes always get
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  the best cons over there okay that's true we do have good cons here you've been
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  conned How many pairs and cons did you buy I brought three pairs this time
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  multiple colors yeah of course did you bring an extra suitcase just for shoes
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  no I I cuz I was only going for 4 days I actually only took a backpack with
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  me how did you get to I purchased a bag
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  that's what I had to do familiar M yeah yeah I had to do that at one point I I
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  I've gotten better at it but yeah when I was traveling part of traveling was just
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  buying a bunch of [ __ ] because I mean it's true there are more options for
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  clothing and shoes and and stuff like that here in the US than there are in
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  Australia so plus it's just fun to shop when you're away stores new it's like
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  normally I can't just go and buy all this [ __ ] but now I can and and that's
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  also being on holidays just sort of feel like if I was back home I'm not going to
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  spend this amount of money but right I'm on vacation [ __ ] blank exactly right
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  it's holiday fund not spending money yeah and then worry about how to pay for
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  it when you get home so you glossed over the fact that you sat in on a podcast
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  recording so I'd like to hear bit more about that the reason I actually
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  extended my stay was just to go to see Hollywood Babylon with Kevin Smith and
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  Ralph Garmin cuz they personally invited you to uh to go I assume of course yes
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  yes um I may been a little nervous about missing the show not quite knowing where
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  it was so I got to the bar pretty early kind of like okay you youve
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  pre-baked this excuse into the story yeah that's right that's my this is why
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  I was drunk your honor actually it was weird it was the only
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  only night in La that I drank I was there I believe that the listeners don't
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  believe it either all right it was the it was the only night I got really
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  drunk y there was a quite a few nights of
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  Tipsy Luke okay and how did you how did drunk Luke and Kevin Smith get on and I
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  know the answer cuz I've heard the [ __ ] I've heard the evidence yeah
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  here's the thing listeners uh for those of you who don't already know lukee
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  featured pretty heavily on the Hollywood Babylon podcast yeah I think it was a good like
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  20 minutes mhm I um I did were you in the front row it sounded like you were
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  very close to them yes I was in the front
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  row they kept bringing me Gins there Kevin Smith kept bringing you gin
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  yep so look Kevin Smith has been a hero of mine since I was a teenager Ralph G I
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  never heard of before um but uh gin
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  funny man very nice guy as well I I hung
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  out with him after the show I gotta Dan you finish because I yeah no look I was
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  just gonna say that like when you told me that you were going to uh sit in on
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  Kevin Smith's podcast I'd kind of i' forgotten how much I like Kevin Smith
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  for starters um cuz he's kind of been I mean he even admits himself that he's a
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  bit of a hasb been these days but uh but I'm a little bit jealous
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  I must admit and uh when I listen to
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  this show and Kevin Smith is talking to
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  you and uh and using his sexy voice to tell you that you need to start eating
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  your wife's [ __ ] more and then start they start talking
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  to other people and then Kevin Smith's like hang on let's find out what Luke
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  has to say about this always bringing it back yeah it was so odd how he just kept
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  bringing it back to me there were a few times I heard you
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  yelling stuff out and in the background yeah there was also that and they do
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  announce at the beginning show like there is crowd participation but don't be that
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  guy and you were like [ __ ] that I am that guy I was I was having a chat with Ralph
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  and his assistant after the show and I went did I go too far and I went look if
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  you had have gone too far I would have been coming up tapping you on the
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  shoulder telling you to shut up right but I was I was okay when you have to
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  ask though when you have to say did I spoil your
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  show well I don't think I did cuz they kept you didn't man you did
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  not EXA funny I mean there was some talk
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  of koalas and then Kevin Smith like directly addressed you and asked you
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  more to to elaborate more and this is after Kevin Smith said this about you
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  you look like a character yeah and I was like [ __ ] man
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  that's got to be in quotes on everything we do now but that's just how I
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  look we don't tell people often say to
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  me cuz I because I have said in the past I'm not a huge fan of Kevin Smith's
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  films I like some of them people always go oh you don't like Kevin Smith I
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  actually really like Kevin Smith like I I watched his you know evening with
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  Kevin Smith videos and I like I don't listen to his podcast much however I
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  might now cuz I listen to that one and I'm like actually that reminds me I
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  [ __ ] do like Kevin Smith icast are great he's the reason why I don't listen
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  to our podcast they're just too similar cuz now you're on
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  his well you going to stop listening to his now that you're on
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  it yeah you can't listen to that episode I assume damn it no I actually it took
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  I've only listened to part of it I was nervous about listening to it you did
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  listen to an episode of that
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  podcast I listened I I listen sort of Hannah listened to it while I was sort
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  of out of the room and iame I was nervous to
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  listen H yeah cuz cuz you were drunk you didn't remember what you said yeah you
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  were right to be yeah yeah but actually I think you come across quite well yeah
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  yeah no it was good think I handled it well like I'm I'm ready to be famous
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  yeah well good cuz uh f just hit you like a truck cuz you
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  are all right well that was that's a [ __ ] fantastic reason to stick around
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  in LA and I'm glad you did uh congratulations yeah every time I've
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  been to over to the the states I've wanted to go see one of his podcasts and
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  every single time it's either not on or it's on the other side of the country so
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  it well definitely a highlight of your this side of the
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  country no no sometimes I've been to LA and he's been on the other side of the
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  country yeah yeah that's where I am so where is he so did record podcast over
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  here can I go and chat with Kevin Smith yeah he's done stuff down in Philly and
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  um that's not that close yeah is he doing I think he has done in Boston as
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  well there you go now we're talking all right all right well he's a jersey boy
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  so he probably he probably records a New Jersey but that's not super far I you
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  could get there you could get yeah I can get no I get Jo but L you did uh you did
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  something else while you were there that interests us greatly and so I would like
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  uh you you casually remarked that you did some interviews while you were there
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  and I'd like to hone in on one interviewer in particular and you know what that is
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  Luke I I I have no idea at the moment where where's this going I want to know
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  about your interview with the scientologists oh [ __ ] forgot about
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  that well I didn't I still got the homework I have to finish okay we'll get
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  to that we'll get to that Luke uh he's
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  his house give him give him an F was it uh was it your intention to go
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  out and uh speak to the Scientologist or did they flag you down on the street
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  I've always wanted to go and do their personality test I've seen them on the
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  streets in a few different cities before and I went screw it I've got time to
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  kill I'm going to do it they look like stand up into idual I want to I want to
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  know what that's about well they're got to be doing something right they're still
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  around sure so now I went in and I did a
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  personality test right I I think someone could have looked at you for less than a
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  second and and being able to sum up your personality Kevin Smith did
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  yeah it's actually quite weird like
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  godamn beans Luke yeah come on be there was nothing about the religion
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  yeah I've heard that I've heard they keep that secret for a while yeah that
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  was there was nothing about that it was just a personality test and they've gone
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  here are some things that you might be able to improve here's a course you can
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  do here's this and it was all about that I think that's how they start you down
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  the path so the courses were with them I assume yes they offered me to sit do a
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  two and a half hour course okay okay so back up what was it that they said about
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  your personality could be improved oh God I should remember this
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  shouldn't I I if I had know I I've got the paperwork in the other room if you
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  had know if only you had known we were going to ask about it oh here here's
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  something that I found very odd and I think this is where they're wrong just
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  get the [ __ ] paperwork I'm above average intelligence okay that might be
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  true now yeah it might be true true and and a skeptic might say that they
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  probably tell that to everyone to kind of uh endear you to them but we give you
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  the benefit of the doubt they also said I was prone to rash decisions okay
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  that's that is true yeah yeah and what was the other thing maybe they oh look
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  they might say that to everyone as well because if you've decided to take the
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  personality test then yeah you are prone to rash decisions um I forget what the third
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  thing was about how I interact with people something about that okay so was the
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  course to help you interact with people or was it to make you less rash or was
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  it to make you less intelligent this one was to I think it was to help me
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  interact with people better okay that's what it actually was so they they
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  wouldn't let me go until I've filled out they wouldn't let you go they they
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  really I just want to make sure I heard that right yeah cuz that's what I was
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  worried was going to happen yeah they wanted me to complete the first part of
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  the homework they were giving me okay and so I did that with um them there not
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  homework um they've given me a book and a DVD and some homework I call it
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  homework they sat there and made you DVD
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  yeah oh I paid for it okay oh for [ __ ]
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  sake what what was the DVD Luke stop skirting around the
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  details no it's honestly because since I left I have not opened it they told you
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  not to talk to us didn't they no they did not I'm starting to realize well
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  then [ __ ] tell us everything they made you watch it but you haven't opened
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  it that doesn't that I haven't no I haven't watched the DVD yet I've got
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  been given a book that's going to help me interact with people better and then
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  I meant to read the book and as I complete a chapter I fill in homework
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  and then I send it off to them and then they try and help me become a better
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  person okay well that's nice of them now what they make you do when you there you
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  said they made you do something before they let you leave what was it oh that
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  was just I wanted me to complete the first part of the booklet what was it
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  for [ __ ] sake what did they make you do what did you have to
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  do um they asked me questions
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  about it was just like about
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  what um you don't remember do you they're listening right now
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  don't I really don't remember cough once if they're in the room Luke Luke cough
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  once if they're in the room no um I'll have a look through it
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  and I'll discuss it more next week okay you'll check what you're allowed to say
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  and what you're allowed to he's got to call his Handler yeah oh Christ or he's
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  got to turn around and and check what his Handler says cuz he's in room he's
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  turned around the handle just like shaking his head slowly yeah with above
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  average intelligence my ass but I got the hold the tin things
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  yeah the the Emer whatever it's called they didn't explain what it was though
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  they didn't explain any of that something about thetans yeah I think so
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  so I'm just quite interesting I'm I'm interesting to see to see what where it
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  goes don't say it like that what do you mean where it goes I'm not going to what
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  do you mean where it goes where is it going luk where do you think it might go
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  I'm just quite interesting in seeing how they do progress and how they do get
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  people who whoa who hold on hold on you want to see how it progresses
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  firsthand you want to know how they they brain
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  people look at the moment all what Happ is I've done a personality test they've
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  given me a book a DVD and some homework
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  and you are planning on doing the homework I don't like reading well it's
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  a DVD so that's lucky for you yeah but I also do you have
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  something that would play a DVD uh Xbox uh by Xbox oh the XBox plays a DVD okay
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  yep that's it that's the only thing that would I have now yeah like even my
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  computer doesn't have any drive you know I was uh I've just moved into a new
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  place and we didn't have internet for the first week which is why last week I
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  had to go back to my old place to uh to record but um so not only did I have no
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  internet but I had like no way of uh you know I couldn't watch Netflix couldn't
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  do anything so I thought okay I'm going to I'm going to watch a Blu-ray because
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  that's literally all I can do now God they take forever to load own One
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  Blu-Ray right it's the force awakens and uh I put it in and the Xbox says uh you
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  need to uh you need to update the Blu-ray app before you can watch
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  anything so I couldn't even watch my One Blu-Ray sons of [ __ ] when you got
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  home what you should have done was just downloaded a lot of stuff off Netflix
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  yeah yeah that's yeah that would yeah you're probably right cuz you can do
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  that full of great advice a week after yeah that's right that's right it's on
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  now I'm at home and uh all as well I had uh this is usually a segment
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  that's reserved for Dan but I had a sort of a a racial fobar this week of my own
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  see the reason that Matt usually doesn't have racial faux pass is because Matt
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  usually just doesn't give a [ __ ] if he comes across
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  racist that's true but in this case uh he was it was in the middle of
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  a a phone call I don't want to give away too much because it's uh it's work stuff
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  but I was on the phone I'm currently working with some uh with some
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  developers in Mexico and umic yes and we
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  were talking uh not not with them but just with the client uh we're both
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  individ both teams working on stuff for the same client uh and I'd been a little
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  frustrated by uh some of the stuff they were doing just seemed like they they
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  were kind of ping things off right makes
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  and some sometimes I say things and uh it's not a saying here you know like
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  something I'm used to just saying as you know kind of a little phrase oh yeah
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  that people say whole thing Matt I know exactly what you mean exactly exactly so
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  uh so I'm in this meeting and I comment on the fact that it just seems like
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  they're just tossing stuff over the wall to me
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  and and I I know that term I've used that
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  term at work it means nothing that's magnificent and then I go I said it and
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  then my brain like just my brain caught up and I was like
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  [ __ ] is that even a thing here and so I'm looking around and then no one's no
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  one's saying anything so but but like I'm looking at you would stun silence no
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  no no no sorry there just no one's saying anything about that they just
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  continue talking and and and so and my Palms are starting to get sweaty cuz I'm
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  like oh oh [ __ ] and then but but no one's commenting on it the meeting's
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  just continuing as normal and I found out afterwards it is a thing it's fine
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  okay however I had to ask afterwards and then after that my boss just [ __ ]
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  told everybody that was my uh my oh [ __ ]
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  moment for the week that's great yeah and they said maybe just don't say that
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  when we're on the phone with them with the with the with the team in Mexico just in
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  [Music]
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  case there's a bank over here one of the big Banks and they've just released a uh
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  a credit card it's one of those kind of gold unlimited credit cards and it's So
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  Posh that it actually has um diamonds
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  embedded in the actual card wow and um
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  why oh [ __ ] def IO because some people have so much money
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  that they can justify having a [ __ ] diamond encrusted credit card right
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  um and it comes when you when you when you get this it comes to you in a in
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  like a little ornate box right and on
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  the box it says this Singapore's first diamond embellished UOB Reserve metal
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  card for those who value exclusivity in its most extinguished
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  form I think they me distinguished but that's not what it
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  says it was on fire but we've taken care of that here it is yeah but the funny
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  thing is is that this ornate box that comes in kind of looks like one of those
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  in case of fire break glass kind of uh Arrangements is there some fire angle to
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  this that you're not aware of no there's look if there is then I'm going way off
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  here but uh as far as I can tell it's just a typo but it's most expensive typo
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  I've seen in a long time before I flew out to LA I had to run around to find my
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  old wallet so I had a card to take with me cuz I don't use cards anymore because
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  you don't have money because Hannah spends the money for you well no with
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  the allowance I do get I don't use cards or cash in
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  Australia I just use my phone or my watch CU I can just tap everywhere I
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  like doing that so but yeah over in yeah that's just what I do I don't actually
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  carry a wallet with me at all with a phone I don't yeah I've I've I don't
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  know that that's even a thing here I can tap for anything anywhere yeah in um
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  when I was in London uh end of last year you can do that everywhere it was
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  awesome here you can do it some places but not uh not so much uh no well not in
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  Rhode Island anyway probably in like Manhattan or somewhere you can but not
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  in uh not in Rhode Island well not last year you
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  Clint in Rhode Island in Manhattan oh in manhatt oh right of course yeah no
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  probably not because we got a lot of embedded infrastructure here and so it's kind of like
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  yeah it's uh there's a lot of hurdles bring in something like that yeah hello
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  imperial system of measurement it's true people don't like change hello inverted
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  date I saw this great meme the other day that was um a detailed map showing all
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  the countries in the world that use the um inverted date and it was completely
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  blank except for America yeah I've gotten used to it now
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  but uh that was a weird one at first yeah I I've got some things that America
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  needs to fix I need to fix the date they need to start letting me tap everywhere
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  wait sorry are these in order are these in order of priority that America needs
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  to fix these are social problems America all number one and then also just
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  include your tax in the price okay so the children are being taken away from
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  their number four oh yeah live let the children stay with their parents yeah I
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  don't know anything about that I mean if you get no one was accusing
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  you what were you doing the other five days you were here separating parents from their
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  children what it's what I do it's what I
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  do so you went to E3 uh s you did some
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  related stuff what did you yes you saw the press conference y uh I watched that
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  online that was pretty cool the press conference was actually it was amazing
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  to be and I watched the highlights it was long it was long but it was good
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  being there did you get any free [ __ ] um no but I did actually get to sit next to
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  someone quite cool who sightless combat I don't know if you've heard of him no
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  he's blind and a big gamer Okay cool so I'm sitting down and they've got this fancy
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  chair sitting next to me and then I wasn't meant to be sitting next to it
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  but I did anyway cuz I'm Luke and then I sat down and then this guy walks up and
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  he's blind and I'm sit down and I had a chat with him so I ended up sitting next
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  to him through the entire thing and then he's got a special chair that's
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  vibrating for the show and then I'm also explaining the video that's coming up to
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  him and it was yeah it was great huh did he ask you to or is he like look dude
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  I've got a I've got a I've got an app for this didn't want shut up yeah
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  well no cuz he could he could experience it through the chair but didn't really
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  some stuff you just can see through the chair clearly yeah so no no I I was
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  explaining stuff and he was happy for me to do this cool um he's actually been
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  organizing um making a map in Halo forge that's actually teaches people to play
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  blindfolded oh that's interesting so I'm going to get in contact with him and try
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  and give that a go it was awesome sitting next to him cuzz I've got to meet people
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  [Music]
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  unless you're into algebra well I did have Halo 3 ODST
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  yeah cool um Force Horizon I'm looking forward to mhm I was upset though about
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  one thing where's my VR yeah okay so there's I put an article in here about
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  this uh there isn't any they have no plans for any might they announced this not on the
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  console at least they are supporting it on PC yeah but that's [ __ ] who cares
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  they made a big deal about this you know like what last year the year
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  before it was last year they came out and there was going to be Fallout VR
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  super excited for nobody after all these years nobody still is sure if if vr's
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  going to really be a thing apparently so on the periphery you've got Skyrim and
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  Fallout 4 on you know VR and apparently they're they're pretty fun and then
• 27:21
  there's the Doom VR which everyone stopped talking about but that's it like
• 27:25
  what else is there in VR there's like little you know like G
• 27:28
  pinball yeah yeah yeah but gimmicks right like pinball VR come on you know
• 27:34
  yeah there's just there's no game that's sort of jumping out but I will I'm going
• 27:39
  to get a VR headset this year I've decided what are you going to oh if your
• 27:43
  PC yep see I I'd like to try it out but I guess the best option for me is going
• 27:48
  to be a PS4 but I don't want to buy a PS4 just for that no you don't want a
• 27:52
  PS4 one no if you're going to get one spend the money and get something decent
• 27:57
  no that's that's not gonna happen I'm not going to use it enough to justify it
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  so look next time you go past the Samsung store just go in and try one out
• 28:05
  oh what I've used them at um you know conventions and stuff so it's just yeah
• 28:09
  but I really want to try one for like an hour or two like an actual gaming
• 28:13
  session not when people are lining up behind you yeah that's right like we did
• 28:17
  that Earth Light thing at Pax Oz that was cool that was awesome I played uh
• 28:22
  that VR game at uh I played a few VR games at PX here but there was that one
• 28:27
  pixel ripped the the Retro one that was interesting there's some interesting
• 28:32
  stuff but they're all kind of gimmicky like there's not just a you know I guess
• 28:36
  I just I want to play full gimick because it doesn't really enhance the
• 28:41
  playability of the game really I mean you still do everything you can do still
• 28:45
  look in all directions you just have to move the joystick yeah we have to use
• 28:51
  the joystick to move anyway it's not like you can walk around exactly well
• 28:54
  some of them you can I think but not fall that's what I need that's where VR
• 28:58
  needs to stop they need to stop trying to have people stand up yeah Gamers
• 29:03
  don't want to stand the reason why they Gamers well maybe they have a mental
• 29:10
  disorder maybe that's why they're Gamers because this this came out this week
• 29:14
  yeah that's right the World Health Organization now recognizes gaming
• 29:19
  addiction as a legitimate disorder it's interesting which is not
• 29:24
  what we want a legitimate mental disorder yeah um Luke would you like to hear the
• 29:30
  criteria for uh what the
• 29:33
  wh um says how screwed am I okay so
• 29:38
  there's three criteria first okay gaming Behavior takes precedence over other
• 29:43
  activities to the extent that other activities are taken to the
• 29:50
  periphery I would say yes yeah I'd say that's fair yeah you play games instead
• 29:55
  of doing your homework for the scientologists that's exactly yeah okay so uh the second
• 30:02
  characteristic is impaired control of this behavior um that is even when
• 30:07
  negative consequences occur this Behavior will continue or even
• 30:11
  escalate um I would say sort of yes cuz negative would be I'm really sleepy and
• 30:16
  tired when I have to get up and go to work but it won't stop me from that very
• 30:19
  night still staying up to 1 2:00 in the morning playing a game y that that that
• 30:23
  that's very the very definition yes that is what that means yep okay so the third
• 30:27
  and last characteristic is um when a person's personal relationships
• 30:32
  education or occupation is negatively affected by the addiction to playing
• 30:38
  video games ah I'm safe then yeah I was going to say you seem all right on that
• 30:42
  front I I will not let my gaming affect my work because if it affects my work I
• 30:48
  can't get money to buy more games I like how you didn't say relationship you just
• 30:51
  said work yeah he left that one out he has a very very patient wife though I
• 30:57
  only got halfway through not Tak my job it goes on to say the consequences
• 31:03
  of a person with a gaming disorder are real and may include diet problems sleep
• 31:08
  problems and an unwillingness to engage in physical activities see I don't think
• 31:14
  these things need to be related to strictly to gamer people just get
• 31:18
  addicted to things well they're [ __ ] designed to addict you like the yeah
• 31:24
  yeah but person who's prone to being addicted to something they they're going
• 31:28
  to be prone to being addicted to many different things it's just a person gets
• 31:32
  addicted to things it's not gaming is an addiction that person has an addiction
• 31:37
  to being addicted that's how I look at it yeah guns don't kill people people
• 31:40
  kill people they they design games to be addictive like you look at even
• 31:46
  something like Conan right that we've been playing Conan Exiles it man I can't
• 31:50
  wait until something is more interesting to me than Conan I'm spending [ __ ]
• 31:54
  way to i i i tick all these criteria just for Conan but Con in particular
• 31:59
  right though sometimes you know when it it at the moment right you've been
• 32:02
  having trouble connecting and getting into the game right yes I have so I've
• 32:06
  had that before too and when that happens it makes me think about the game
• 32:11
  itself and then I kind of this kind of like I guess illusion lifts and I'm like
• 32:16
  it's all just a carefully designed progression to keep me addicted like you
• 32:20
  know like oh I've got to get the steel [ __ ] pickaxe I got to get the you
• 32:24
  know you got to get this you got to get that and then once I see that I get
• 32:27
  annoyed and I don't want to play it anymore and then obviously I'll come
• 32:30
  back to it later but like they're all they're all like honestly see that in
• 32:34
  every single game yeah say but you're right Matt because here's the thing the
• 32:38
  only thing that A Game's job to do is to just steal all your time away yeah
• 32:44
  sometimes not and but see the other thing Conan exil doesn't really have a
• 32:50
  story some of them do and I can and then I'm like that's fine I am progressing
• 32:54
  but also I'm enjoying a story it's like if I watch a movie right like if I watch
• 32:58
  a movie it's got a story so there's a little bit extra but some games uh and
• 33:03
  you know K and X I get to play with you guys so it does have like a benefit to
• 33:06
  it other than just me [ __ ] but no I think like a good thing for me is I will
• 33:12
  play it I'll be playing that while I'm watching something in the
• 33:16
  background yeah I enjoy doing that that's yeah know that's fair I used to
• 33:20
  do Minecraft that way and uh Terraria well it's basically just uh Minecraft
• 33:26
  with uh with cavemen TI yeah and but if I'm just sitting you know stuff like
• 33:31
  like Pokemon go like what was the [ __ ] point of that there was no point
• 33:34
  I'm still playing it of course you are God's sake every game is the same
• 33:38
  they're designed to take up your time yes and take your money yes but what the
• 33:44
  entertainment industry is I'm just saying something like Fallout or Skyrim
• 33:49
  where it's got a story and I feel like it's just got a little bit more to it
• 33:52
  than just I'm clicking on things like yeah but unfortunately the way a
• 33:58
  lot of stuff's going now is the story starting to really take a it's not the
• 34:03
  Forefront anymore Witcher look at The Witcher right [ __ ] everything in The Witcher is
• 34:09
  yeah it's it it is a progression and and it is you know designed to kind of to to
• 34:13
  addict you to the gameplay but it's got a story and it's all like interesting
• 34:17
  and there's no it's all you know everything is voice act it's not like
• 34:20
  they just toss [ __ ] in there to keep you playing like everything's part of the
• 34:25
  story I had a quest the other day uh where I had to recover the genitals
• 34:31
  off a statue yeah somebody stole the genitals off a statue cuz they're
• 34:35
  supposed to Magic and it's [ __ ] amazing actually I still need to finish
• 34:40
  it and then I need to play it through again cuz I own two copies of
• 34:43
  it you have to play each C I'll let that go I'll let that go I'm addicted to a
• 34:47
  che Don't Let It Go no I got it cuz the Game of the Year
• 34:54
  Edition gave you more achievements right so you could get the same achievements
• 34:59
  again oh speaking of sorry uh Witcher you saw the the [ __ ] cyber Punk
• 35:05
  reveal my God that looks great yeah [ __ ] yeah I was so pissed off we didn't go
• 35:11
  this year because they had the closed door uh demo of it we could have [ __ ]
• 35:15
  gone to that if we just [ __ ] gone to E3 like like this year's this year's
• 35:20
  Microsoft Xbox was a million times better than last year yeah last year I
• 35:25
  think they were getting hammered for not having exclusives so last year they went
• 35:29
  we're going to give you all these exclusives and it was a ton of games
• 35:32
  that no one wanted yeah this year this year they've come out and they've just
• 35:36
  gone here's this one here's this one here's this one and why they weren't necessarily
• 35:40
  like total exclusives they were first showing there and it's going going to be
• 35:45
  a good few years for Xbox now yeah yeah just wish I'd seen it been
• 35:52
  there wish I could have seen some of the game but I guess we can wait for it but
• 35:55
  yeah [ __ ] it looks so good um but we still don't know when
• 35:59
  that's coming out though no no but it will be on this generation which I thought was
• 36:05
  interesting they they are saying it they are still aiming for Dish generation but
• 36:09
  I can't see it coming out before the end
• 36:12
  of 2019 sure at the earliest yeah what I'm looking forward to is Fall Out 76
• 36:18
  sort of yeah yeah sort of I was looking forward to it more last week than I am
• 36:25
  this week I just uh I don't I haven't read I haven't seen
• 36:31
  any more about it I don't know how embedded in the online component is
• 36:36
  yeah yeah CU this is why I think Conan is a good
• 36:41
  game for us to play online mhm why I would love to play a Fallout or
• 36:45
  something with you guys online we can't do it no it just asks too much of you
• 36:50
  like to be able for us to be able toit to a time to play a story game is not
• 36:54
  possible that's why K's great I can understand why it would be awesome to
• 36:59
  roam around Fallout cuz I even remember back in
• 37:04
  Oblivion on the Xbox walking around Oblivion talking with Dave or other
• 37:10
  people online while we're wandering around in the same game and that was
• 37:13
  that was fun and interesting and back then it would have been amazing to play
• 37:17
  with people in the one world but yeah it doesn't work for us now
• 37:23
  yeah yeah so yeah I don't know I'm really skeptical of that game cuz I we
• 37:29
  talked about a little bit last week I just feel like putting it online puts
• 37:32
  restrictions on it that I don't really want in a Fallout game because it's got
• 37:36
  a my my decisions can't affect everyone
• 37:39
  else's game so I don't know I I don't' also got to worry about the whole thing
• 37:45
  where the whole part of this game is you get nukes and you can nuke other people
• 37:49
  and stuff and I don't want to have to worry about that in my game we'll
• 37:54
  see did you did you play anthem you went to see
• 37:58
  Anthem I I did get to I didn't get my handson but I did get a very extended
• 38:04
  look what you think um I'm sorry
• 38:10
  BioWare is that what you were doing not looking good for you is that what you
• 38:13
  were doing when you were there the other the other few days it's really not
• 38:16
  looking good for them oh Jesus Jesus it's um again this is one where Luke
• 38:23
  doesn't make threats he makes promises it's if this was going to be a
• 38:28
  single player game and I think that's where bow used to be the best [ __ ] yeah
• 38:33
  man Mass Effect n the Old Republic but they were a different company they were
• 38:39
  a different company back then and now we've gone to Mass Effect Andromeda and
• 38:43
  now we're going Anthem and I'm just even The Last Dragon Age they changed after e
• 38:48
  bought them out yeah and I think this one I just don't see it working I it's
• 38:54
  to me this is going to be another destiny that's what it looked like to me
• 38:58
  yeah like there is a story you go through you play the story and then you
• 39:01
  finish the story and then there'll be the world event you can do and then you
• 39:06
  can go get pretty armor I like Destiny but I didn't like it enough to commit to
• 39:10
  it that's the other thing too these games they [ __ ] demand so much of you
• 39:12
  you know I really enjoyed the division right it was it was fun I love that was
• 39:16
  a great game and I look at the division 2 and I'm like [ __ ] that looks awesome
• 39:20
  but they just they demands so much commitment I'm like I'm almost like I
• 39:24
  just can't play it because it's it's I'm not going to be able to commit to the
• 39:27
  division's going to be good what reason why Destiny I don't think worked well
• 39:31
  for us is cu there was no story well if you wanted a story you had to go hunting
• 39:36
  for that's what I mean yeah yeah yeah yeah in the division there was story
• 39:40
  there yeah true and you can actually play through that entire thing and then
• 39:43
  you don't have to continue playing the grind gear because you've you've
• 39:47
  finished it and I'm hoping division two is the same okay that you can have that
• 39:51
  single player experience or even a co-op experience but then if you get to the
• 39:55
  end of it after you finish the story if you don't want to do the whole grinding
• 39:59
  for pretty gear to get that new jacket or new shoes you don't have to just fly
• 40:04
  to LA and buy three pairs I needed
• 40:08
  them Bethesda uh suing the creators of
• 40:14
  the Westworld iOS or or mobile game I don't have you seen the the West I'm
• 40:18
  really not surprised I heard about this and there are a few games that are very
• 40:22
  much like the Fallout one but then I read more into this and I found out why they
• 40:27
  actually going after this one or not the other ones CU I saw this game and I
• 40:32
  thought oh this must be from the same you know team that made the the same
• 40:37
  [ __ ] game sort of is a little bit what's that it sort of is a little bit
• 40:43
  it's the same it's the same and it's the same people made it sort of go on um
• 40:50
  some of the people who worked on the original Fallout made this game the
• 40:53
  original Fallout or the original fallout shelter The Reason Why Beth are actually
• 40:56
  going after it's not the fact that just it is a ripoff of for that shelter yep
• 41:01
  it's also because it uses their code and even the same bugs that for shelter
• 41:08
  launched with this is launched with see I looked at this because this has been
• 41:11
  advertised to me on all social medias at the moment and uh at first I was like oh
• 41:16
  that looks good that looks kind of like fallout shelter and then I remembered
• 41:20
  that I didn't really like fallout shelter so I'm probably not going to
• 41:24
  play this for a couple of hours I installed fallout shelter again just to
• 41:27
  see and I opened it up and I was like no not interested same with remember Tiny
• 41:32
  Death Star that was fun for a week yeah look I got massively into Tiny Death
• 41:37
  Star for a while and then I couldn't even imagine playing that again you know
• 41:42
  why it's exactly what I was saying before there's no [ __ ] point to it
• 41:46
  it's it's yeah like just goes on forever and that's fine except the cognitive
• 41:52
  load required after playing that for you know you play it for at the start it
• 41:56
  doesn't take too much after a while it's just too much it demands too much
• 42:00
  attention for what it is yeah for for mobile game I want something I can load
• 42:05
  up play for 5 minutes put down and I don't want something that I can have to
• 42:09
  load up and then wait there for 15 minutes while something exactly and [ __ ]
• 42:13
  what's going on over here what's going on over here it's like I'm it's like I'm
• 42:16
  playing Civ 6 but but I'm not I'm playing this silly little game so yeah
• 42:22
  not for me but yeah with this I think Bethesda have a bit of they're going to make
• 42:29
  they're going to West world's going to pay them money and this will go away
• 42:33
  yeah probably look I have zero games on my uh on my iPhone at the moment or at
• 42:38
  least I did until about an hour ago when I decided to uh download the uh Arc
• 42:44
  dinosaur Survival game oh okay but uh I've not
• 42:48
  play it's basically exil I think with Dinosaurs I saw that it was free and I
• 42:54
  thought all right well price is right I'll I'll give it a look but uh I'm
• 42:59
  imagining I'll probably play it for 10 minutes and uh and then delete it that's
• 43:03
  not a mobile game yeah I don't want to play that on my phone so no once I get
• 43:08
  it for a good price I'm going to get it on the Xbox I get all the achievements
• 43:11
  but cuz I'm actually that's something this week off I lost my position in
• 43:15
  Australia oh [ __ ] pissed off now 23rd in Australia
• 43:21
  damn I mean there's a lot of people in Australia so 23rd's still pretty good I
• 43:26
  know I fought for months to get 22nd and then I had a decent lead and now I'm
• 43:31
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  show all the stuff we used to say on this show but we shouldn't yeah and now
• 45:00
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  stay out of that keep it all above board patreon.com I after dark I know you
• 45:14
  prefer after dark but you didn't say that until it was too late and so now
• 45:17
  it's after party still fighting for it we've comment not you're not fighting
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  for it because it's already com up every
• 45:24
  episode of the afterparty even when you weren't here we still
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  talked about the fact that you didn't like you wanted to call it after
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  dark I don't I'm gonna have to submit I'm GNA have to give money to Patron so
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  I can hear it it's in the [ __ ] Dropbox Luke I put him in there for you anyway
• 45:45
  you don't listen to the main podcast why are you going to listen to the after
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  party yeah good point he want I want to I just need to
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  find time well the after party is uh is a bit shorter so that's why I'm thinking
• 45:58
  that like that might be a good one for me all right have to stop subscribing on
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  patreon there 10 bucks a month it's yours uh I got I I should have put this
• 46:11
  in followup because uh because Dan you told me to watch something I did watch
• 46:16
  it I watched the staircase oh okay but you would have watched that about a year
• 46:21
  ago then I guess cuz that's when I told you to watch it no no didn't you tell me
• 46:26
  they watch that recently yeah I did but I have been telling you
• 46:29
  about that one for quite some time okay what's the staircase uh it is a uh it's
• 46:34
  like a true crime show about a uh a woman who staircase yeah about woman who
• 46:41
  died well actually about two staircases actually it's about uh yeah it's it's
• 46:47
  about a a suspected it's about death and that they suspected it might have been a
• 46:53
  homicide and it's about the investigation and the and the court case
• 46:55
  and and all that stuff I don't want to give too much away uh it's very
• 46:59
  interesting it's like really interesting actually I okay so you did like it yeah
• 47:05
  so here's the thing I I knew about this case already and when I started the
• 47:10
  first episode I almost immediately was like oh I know what this is this is the
• 47:15
  I'm not I don't want to say too much but this is the case where there was this
• 47:20
  thing y it doesn't come up murder in the show at all the thing that I was
• 47:24
  thinking of can I uh which surprised me just without giving too much away Matt
• 47:30
  is the thing let just say let's just say it's a real who done it yeah yeah a real
• 47:35
  who who done it right yeah doesn't come up doesn't come up at all which um there
• 47:41
  is a there is a sequel to the show also they did a follow-up film a oneoff about
• 47:48
  10 years after um and uh doesn't come up on that either there's some other stuff
• 47:54
  that I thought was interesting about it too cuz we're cuz we okay I really
• 47:59
  enjoyed it you should watch it uh listeners and Luke you should watch it
• 48:02
  if you like True Crime it's very interesting you get to see a lot of
• 48:05
  behind the scenes stuff like CU I I was worried that I already kind of know
• 48:10
  about this I it might not be interesting for me but then it really it was because
• 48:17
  they didn't even go where I thought they were going with it so what was the crime
• 48:20
  the crime was this guy's wife uh she they were outside they'd been drinking
• 48:26
  hanging out uh out they're out by the pool she said I'm going to bed she went
• 48:30
  in he came in sometime later I'm not sure exactly how long and she was just
• 48:35
  lining a pull of blood at the bottom of the stairs okay and the police were like
• 48:40
  well he [ __ ] killed her and that's
• 48:43
  what it's about MH okay and his defense
• 48:47
  was she fell correct well he doesn't know is his defense but C seems that way
• 48:53
  drunk off my tits certainly seems like she fell yeah if he didn't kill her
• 48:58
  that's probably what happened right so and then that's that's what it's about
• 49:01
  the prosecution says he killed her the defense says well she probably just fell
• 49:06
  uh and they have to prove you know either way and the the series is mostly
• 49:12
  about them building the case correct because I want to talk about it but I
• 49:15
  don't want to spoil it for people how old is it well it's about iten in 200
• 49:20
  201 yeah you will pass no no but it has
• 49:23
  only just been put on Netflix oh and like last year the latest the latest
• 49:30
  episodes are from like the last year so
• 49:36
  what the there's what you talking about there's three three episodes at the end
• 49:40
  that were filmed like last year and the year before Oh [ __ ] well I OB watched
• 49:45
  this a few years ago so there was or maybe maybe what they've done is
• 49:49
  incorporated the follow-up film into this now could be I bet that's what it
• 49:55
  is in which case I probably have seen those episodes but I saw them as a like
• 50:00
  a movie so I I watched another interesting true crime series on Netflix
• 50:06
  this week Evil Genius in fact I watched all of it yesterday because there's only
• 50:09
  four episodes that's the one with the bomb it is test thing yeah neck bomb
• 50:15
  that bomb have you seen this one no it's the bank robbery though right I know
• 50:19
  about it correct bank robbery SL
• 50:23
  murder oh now I'm interested you should be interested and I'm not going to say
• 50:28
  anything so okay um the first episode will tell you everything you need and
• 50:33
  it'll hook you in because you'll be like what the [ __ ] okay yeah cuz this is
• 50:38
  based on a true story isn't it oh yeah it's not based on a true story look it's a
• 50:43
  documentary Oh I thought it was a I didn't know it was a documentary yeah
• 50:48
  sorry I find it hard to watch new things I only watch old
• 50:52
  things does it help if if a new thing is based on an old thing CU they seem to be
• 50:58
  counting on that a lot these days and uh as we reported the other week uh people
• 51:03
  I guess were enjoying the return of Rosanne until she was super racist on
• 51:10
  Twitter and uh I commented at the time that I felt bad for all the other
• 51:15
  [ __ ] cast members because she ruined that for them but apparently not yeah
• 51:20
  they're just cuz ABC went well actually it's not the show people hate it's just
• 51:24
  that [ __ ] what happened with Goodman I don't understand his
• 51:31
  career well he's on the number one highest rated show in America right now
• 51:36
  so his career is going just fine yeah he yeah but it seemed to me that he s sort
• 51:40
  of gone well made it to movies and then to me sort of come backwards I think I
• 51:45
  think the idea that that yeah movies are above TV is is a thing of the past now
• 51:52
  yeah I mean TV stars get paid just as much as movie stars in some case more
• 51:57
  but think about they get paid just as much but you do you can work for less
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  and get paid more I think some of them like working I think John Goodman is
• 52:04
  probably one of those yeah but they uh they basically uh
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  they're just going to kill her off I think from the wording of the statement
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  is that well we'll figure something out him off before and brought him back to
• 52:18
  life yeah that was a dream but uh yeah they said that uh cuz they were like how
• 52:22
  are you going to how are you going to have the show without her and they're
• 52:25
  like oh you know we'll just make it something dramatic happens and then the
• 52:28
  con the Connors have to deal with it so I assume they're going to kill her which
• 52:32
  is she raped to death by a black
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  man in the show obviously I wouldn't I wouldn't hope for that fate for any real
• 52:42
  person but I hope they make it an ironic death is what I'm say you guys know how
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  much I love an ironic death yeah that would be that would be
• 52:50
  interesting torn to death by gorillas at
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  the zoo Jesus while a black man raped stop tearing this woman apart I'm trying
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  to rape her so uh look I'm actually surprised
• 53:04
  look it it's when people are on a TV show especially a long running TV show
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  like this one which was incredibly popular at the time and is incredibly
• 53:14
  popular now and is all based around her it's her show yeah and now she's gone
• 53:20
  like I I'm surprised that all of the cast are like yeah we might keep going
• 53:25
  with the show actually Rosanne where I keep going with it like not one person I
• 53:30
  mean said that like you know no I no no no no I I
• 53:37
  agree but I I find it funny like in Hollywood I don't know maybe it's
• 53:40
  different now maybe things are are different now but I think in the
• 53:45
  past I don't know man I'm just trying to think of like if buff had said something
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  if Sarah Michelle jeller had said something [ __ ] racist back in the day
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  and left Buffy would the whole cast be like let's just let's just change it to
• 53:57
  Willow and Xander Vampire Slayer I would have watched that but you got to think
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  right even if you don't intend it that way even if you're just like I don't
• 54:06
  really want to do it if rosanne's not in it people are going to think you're
• 54:09
  supporting Roseanne's racist [ __ ] like so if if I say something racist Ru
• 54:14
  career if I say something racist and get kicked off this podcast you guys are
• 54:17
  going to be like okay well Dan's not here this week not before Dan's been raped to
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  death by a black man
• 54:28
  yeah geek of the
• 54:36
  week you putting someone up for Geek of the week Matt uh I am if I if I may for
• 54:40
  your for your consideration Luke I would like to I would like to submit that Vinnie
• 54:46
  Paul is geek of the week Vinnie Paul has died he was he was the drummer for panta
• 54:53
  he was Dimebag Daryl who was shot to death uh his brother and now they're
• 54:58
  both both dead uh sadly he died in his sleep apparently um don't know any more
• 55:05
  than that gotot to death in his sleep shot to death in his sleep um yeah so
• 55:11
  sad news and and why was he shot uh okay
• 55:15
  so Dimebag you know you're familiar with panta yeah the metal band you know of
• 55:19
  him yes I know of them yes so they were very big uh in you know the '90s and the
• 55:25
  early 2000s and then they had a falling out and the
• 55:29
  band split up and there were rumors that it was because uh certain members of the
• 55:36
  band didn't get along and there was a gentleman who got it into his head that
• 55:42
  it was Daryl Dimebag Daryl the
• 55:45
  guitarist's fault so he shot him during
• 55:49
  a show uh they they started a new band called damage plan uh Dimebag and and
• 55:55
  Vinnie and at a at a show a guy got up and just shot him in the head and tried
• 56:00
  to shoot as well that's insan when I when I really want a band to get back
• 56:05
  together that a band that I love that have split up and I want that get to get
• 56:09
  back together I start killing the members cuz that that's the sh fire away
• 56:14
  yeah yeah apparently he he wrote something about how he he blamed Dimebag
• 56:19
  for the the band come falling apart so we shot him this was it's a while ago
• 56:24
  now this is in the 2000s this happened um and the saddest part of this whole thing
• 56:28
  is so Vinnie Paul has now died uh and
• 56:32
  Phil ancelmo the singer from panta uh he had he' had a big falling out with with
• 56:38
  them over this and the guy who shot Dimebag said that
• 56:45
  it was because of Phil stuff that Phil had said that he blamed Dimebag so
• 56:49
  basically he said I'm doing this because philan Selmo said that it's Dag's fault
• 56:54
  and so he was devastated put out this video at the time crying and saying I
• 56:58
  can't believe this has happened and Vinnie Paul uh never spoke to him after
• 57:03
  that there were they never resolved anything uh so it's kind of sad so I
• 57:10
  guess yeah I kind imagine Phil was having a good so Vinnie died uh drug
• 57:14
  overdose or uh sexually transmitted disease or something less cool unclear
• 57:20
  at this point uh died in his sleep there's this might be one of those
• 57:24
  things where you know Peter Ste and Jimmy from Avenge Sevenfold where prior
• 57:30
  excess has caused their body to just [ __ ] give up oh and uh Wayne Static
• 57:36
  same thing yeah he was a big he was an addict and then got clean and then
• 57:41
  he but it was too late the damage was
• 57:44
  done I'm going to allow this thanks man
• 57:48
  okay all right um I didn't even have the jingle prepared cuz I wasn't expecting
• 57:52
  that here we go of the
• 57:57
  week Vinnie Paul geek of the week very influential character in my my musical
• 58:03
  uh life Co good drama I can't think of
• 58:07
  anything panta though no can't think of one thing why can I not think of
• 58:13
  anything Matt what's going on mate let me just put a little note here
• 58:20
  we can hear you well we were that can't
• 58:26
  hear him now that's true but he does show a screen so I
• 58:31
  think he is talking oh there we go sorry my internet connection my internet
• 58:34
  connection died of grief and uh back now I would like to nominate my
• 58:39
  internet connection as geek of the week no dick geek of the dick oh dick of the
• 58:45
  week dick of the week what's dick we decided on or I decided on wasn't it
• 58:51
  yeah dick of the week you missed the jingle though right I just realized we
• 58:55
  didn't talk about this in the main show but so the listeners aren't going to
• 58:59
  know what we're talking about oh that was in the Afterparty uh but yeah the uh
• 59:03
  the guitarist from the band anal [ __ ] was uh dick of the week our first ever
• 59:09
  dick of the week yeah so everyone uh if you just wondering the kind of the
• 59:13
  caliber of content that you're missing by not being a $10 a month subscriber we
• 59:18
  have a segment called Dick of the week yeah well we've now brought it to uh to
• 59:23
  the main show I guess I'm gonna play the jingle cuz you haven't heard this Luke
• 59:27
  cuz you don't listen to your own show no I've just got a I've got a bit of a
• 59:31
  backlog to get
• 59:40
  through is that your style of music L it is not no strange that's all for this
• 59:47
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