Latest / Eerily Beloved / Spooky Lakes: The Lady of the Lake (revisited)

Transcript

Spooky Lakes: The Lady of the Lake (revisited) · Eerily Beloved

0:00
SPEAKER_01: Happy Thursday and welcome back to the podcast.
0:04
SPEAKER_01: Before we get into the episode, I just want to say that this week's episode, we are revisiting the Lady of the Lakes that we did back in episode 10.
0:12
SPEAKER_01: And I know that was a while ago since it was published back in March and there are quite a few new listeners.
0:16
SPEAKER_01: So in case you haven't gone all the way back yet, and even if you have, this is one of our favorite, not favorite, it's a very strange case, and it's very unique, and I think it's perfect for Spooky Lake month.
0:30
SPEAKER_01: So happy September, happy spooky lake month.
0:33
SPEAKER_01: Next week will be the final segment in our spooky lakes month before we get into proper spooky episodes.
0:40
SPEAKER_01: Just a reminder that if you enjoy listening to this podcast, rate and review us wherever you listen to us.
0:47
SPEAKER_01: And if you have any cases, stories, paranormal experiences, and you want us to read those on an episode, email early belovedpodcast at gmail.com.
0:58
SPEAKER_01: Okay, now onto the episode.
0:59
SPEAKER_01: Welcome back to the podcast and your early beloved.
1:02
SPEAKER_01: We are gathered here today with just mom.
1:04
SPEAKER_01: Fresh off the plane from vacation.
1:08
SPEAKER_00: Bonjono.
1:11
SPEAKER_01: And mom is feeling left out, so I had to get her had to get her on an episode.
1:18
SPEAKER_01: Mm-hmm.
1:19
SPEAKER_01: Well and then you're gonna be gone next week too.
1:22
SPEAKER_01: Gotta make it even.
1:23
SPEAKER_00: Let's hear what we got today.
1:25
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
1:31
SPEAKER_01: Okay, so today we're revisiting a place that we talked about a few weeks ago, and it's an episode I did with Garrett.
1:37
SPEAKER_01: And we are returning to Olympic National Park, specifically the north northwesternmost corner, Lake Crescent, which is west of Port Angeles.
1:48
SPEAKER_01: Have you been there?
1:49
SPEAKER_00: I mean I think so.
1:52
SPEAKER_01: You have?
1:54
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, in Washington?
1:56
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:56
SPEAKER_01: For real?
1:58
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
2:00
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
2:02
SPEAKER_01: Lake Crescent is the second deepest lake in Washington with depths up to si up to 625 feet and is 12 miles long.
2:09
SPEAKER_01: It's known for its crystal blue waters, and on a good day you can see up to 70 feet down.
2:15
SPEAKER_01: Oh geez.
2:15
SPEAKER_00: Can you No, maybe I haven't been to the lake.
2:18
unknown: Okay.
2:20
SPEAKER_00: Because why would I go to a creepy lake?
2:22
SPEAKER_01: Well, I don't know if it's creepy.
2:24
SPEAKER_01: I it's probably pretty, but why would you go to a lake that hard northwest?
2:30
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, no.
2:31
SPEAKER_00: I mean I've just been through that area, but not no.
2:34
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
2:35
SPEAKER_01: Well, I think it's it's cold too.
2:37
SPEAKER_01: So like most of the Pacific Northwest, the area is rich in indigenous history with evidence of first people inhabitants dating back to 13,800 years ago.
2:46
SPEAKER_00: Oh wow.
2:47
SPEAKER_01: According to native legend, Lake Crescent was formed by Mount Storm King, the mountain that sits above the lake.
2:53
SPEAKER_01: That's actually what it's called.
2:55
SPEAKER_01: Following a three-day battle between the Sklalum and Culeute tribes.
2:59
SPEAKER_01: In his rage at the tribes, he threw a chunk of the mountain where the men were fighting, killing them all and damming the river, creating Lake Crescent and then its counterpart, Lake Sutherland.
3:09
SPEAKER_01: Incredibly, 10,000 years of storytelling was proved by science when research conducted in the area was able to determine an earthquake around the time of the battle, and it caused the landslides separating the valley, much like Mount Storm King did in the story.
3:23
SPEAKER_01: And since its bloody origins, the lake has been known as the lake that does not give up the dead.
3:28
SPEAKER_00: Learning a little history here.
3:31
SPEAKER_01: Mount Storm King is a pretty cool name, too.
3:34
SPEAKER_01: Garrett really liked it.
3:36
SPEAKER_00: That's awesome.
3:38
SPEAKER_01: However, this changed in the summer of 1940.
3:43
SPEAKER_01: On July 6th, two fishermen were shocked to discover the body of a woman floating in the lake.
3:48
SPEAKER_01: She was fully clothed, wrapped in blankets and rope, and had been hogtied.
3:52
SPEAKER_01: Even more disturbing though was that her body showed little signs of the traditional decay that happens when a body is in water.
3:59
SPEAKER_01: In fact, her body appeared waxy or statue-like with a shiny sheen.
4:04
SPEAKER_01: Leading the investigation with Sheriff Charles Kemp, who said that her body was more like a statue, the flesh had turned to some rubber-like substance.
4:12
SPEAKER_00: That's creepy.
4:12
SPEAKER_00: Have you heard of this?
4:13
SPEAKER_00: No.
4:14
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
4:15
SPEAKER_00: And that's like right after the 4th of July?
4:17
SPEAKER_00: Uh-huh.
4:17
SPEAKER_00: In the 40s.
4:18
SPEAKER_01: Mm-hmm.
4:19
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
4:21
SPEAKER_01: Dr.
4:21
SPEAKER_01: Charles P.
4:22
SPEAKER_01: Larson, a pathologist from Tacoma, said the body appeared to have gone through saponification and explained that the lake has strong alkalis which work on the fatty substance of the flesh, and with a purely chemical reaction, turn the body into soap.
4:40
SPEAKER_01: So I mean Okay, so you haven't heard of this case?
4:43
SPEAKER_01: No.
4:44
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
4:44
SPEAKER_01: I didn't think you had, or else you probably would have brought it up by now.
4:48
SPEAKER_01: Turns it into soap.
4:50
SPEAKER_00: So there's no fish in this lake.
4:52
SPEAKER_01: So I also reach research saponification, and that's the process of fats turning into so weird, like basically glitter.
5:01
SPEAKER_01: Mm-hmm.
5:02
SPEAKER_01: Like that's the actual process name, but when bodies go through it, there's an actual title for it.
5:07
SPEAKER_01: Ad adi adiposir?
5:09
SPEAKER_01: Have you heard of that?
5:10
SPEAKER_01: Adi what?
5:10
SPEAKER_01: Adiposir.
5:13
SPEAKER_01: No.
5:14
SPEAKER_00: No.
5:15
SPEAKER_01: Forms when a body lies in subtle anaerobic environment and results from the hydrolysis of triglycerides and adipose tissue to unsaturated and saturated fatty acids.
5:24
SPEAKER_01: Oh, so weird.
5:25
SPEAKER_01: Hydronination of unsaturated fatty acids or saturated fashions is the formation of fatty acid soaps.
5:31
SPEAKER_00: Hydrogenation.
5:33
SPEAKER_01: Yep.
5:34
SPEAKER_01: Hydrogenation.
5:35
SPEAKER_01: But this says it's more likely to form when body lies in fresh warm water.
5:39
SPEAKER_00: Ew.
5:41
SPEAKER_01: But this is not warm water.
5:42
SPEAKER_00: No.
5:43
SPEAKER_00: No, it was like volcano like mountain water.
5:46
SPEAKER_01: Complete immersion of the body facilitates the formation, but it can form in partially submerged bodies.
5:51
SPEAKER_01: It can form in wet, poorly draining, mildly alkaline soil.
5:57
SPEAKER_01: Call it corpse wax.
5:59
SPEAKER_01: Oh.
6:02
SPEAKER_00: Gross.
6:02
SPEAKER_01: Mm-hmm.
6:04
SPEAKER_01: But it's incredibly uncommon.
6:06
SPEAKER_01: The least commonly encountered decompos decompositional change.
6:10
SPEAKER_01: Some reported that this chemical transformation made it so her flesh was able to be scooped like putty.
6:16
SPEAKER_01: That cannot be verified, and that might just be maybe folklore or something.
6:20
SPEAKER_01: Uh yeah, just the headline to cell papers.
6:22
SPEAKER_01: Due to the bizarre condition that this woman's woman's body had been found in, the media was immediately enamored with the discovery and dubbed her the lady of the lake.
6:30
SPEAKER_01: Meanwhile, investigators were hard at work trying to identify the unknown woman, and this woman had been brutally murdered.
6:36
SPEAKER_01: During autopsy, Dr.
6:37
SPEAKER_01: Iringi Cabaney found strangulation marks and bruising around her neck and her chest showed evidence of extensive hemorrhage, indicating she had been beaten as well.
6:46
SPEAKER_01: Elements of her body that had been exposed to the lake inhabitants and currents such as her hands and face made identifying her with photos or fingerprints impossible.
6:55
SPEAKER_01: She appeared to be about 35 with auburn hair, around 5'6 and 140 pounds.
7:00
SPEAKER_01: All which they were able to determine remained relatively unchanged because of the chemical reaction.
7:05
SPEAKER_00: I'm not loving this.
7:06
SPEAKER_01: Had her body not been so well preserved, elements of evidence to suggest her cause of death would have been non-existent.
7:12
SPEAKER_01: The pathologists estimated her body had been submerged in the lake for three years.
7:17
SPEAKER_01: Oh my gosh.
7:19
SPEAKER_00: So like sometime in the late 30s.
7:22
SPEAKER_01: Well, and her body was wrapped in a blanket.
7:25
SPEAKER_01: So that's why her hands and her face were tied in a blanket, okay.
7:29
SPEAKER_01: The ropes wrapped around her body, they figured had been tied to weights for weighted objects like rocks to keep her submerged in the lake.
7:35
SPEAKER_01: And those had rotted, and only because her body's additional buoyancy due due to the saponification process had she reappeared at the surface.
7:44
SPEAKER_00: Okay, that makes a little more sense.
7:47
SPEAKER_01: So who was this woman and who killed her were answers that everyone wanted to know, especially because presumably her killer was still out there.
7:55
SPEAKER_01: After months I had one tangible clue, a distinct six-tooth dental bridge that hopefully any dentist would be able to identify and claim as a patient they had done work on.
8:04
SPEAKER_00: From the body.
8:05
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
8:07
SPEAKER_01: Like that was because they couldn't use fingerprints.
8:10
SPEAKER_01: They couldn't have to do that.
8:11
SPEAKER_00: And this was this is the late 30s.
8:12
SPEAKER_00: A bridge, yeah.
8:14
SPEAKER_01: That's like me.
8:15
SPEAKER_00: Yep.
8:17
SPEAKER_01: At least that's what Sheriff Kemp was hoping.
8:19
SPEAKER_01: Descriptions and photos of the bridge went out nationwide to dentists across the country.
8:23
SPEAKER_01: It was published in dental magazines and journals and sent to law enforcement agencies everywhere.
8:28
SPEAKER_01: The Buffalo Courier Express reported that acting on this last piece of evidence, the authorities had fifteen thousand circulars printed and distributed to dentists around the country.
8:38
SPEAKER_00: Okay, but this was in the late thirties.
8:41
SPEAKER_00: So I mean like they probably didn't travel too far.
8:45
SPEAKER_00: I mean you said the Buffalo Press, that's like Buffalo, New York.
8:48
SPEAKER_01: Well it should have been the smoking gun.
8:49
SPEAKER_01: Months of absolute crickets went by, and the Lady of the Lake was buried without a name in the Clollam County Cemetery.
8:56
SPEAKER_01: But after 14 months, a dentist in Falcon, South Dakota was able to give the Lady of the Lake a proper name.
9:03
SPEAKER_01: The gold bridge was very distinct, and Dr.
9:05
SPEAKER_01: Albert J.
9:06
SPEAKER_01: McDowell remembered making this for a young woman with auburn hair named Halle Spreker.
9:11
SPEAKER_00: Okay, South Dakota.
9:12
SPEAKER_00: That sounds way more plausible.
9:14
SPEAKER_01: This is in Washington.
9:15
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but that's not too far.
9:17
SPEAKER_01: That's pretty far.
9:19
SPEAKER_01: For the 30s?
9:20
SPEAKER_00: Two states away.
9:23
SPEAKER_00: Nadaho's small up there.
9:25
SPEAKER_01: I mean, but Montana.
9:27
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you get, but okay, way better than Oh yeah, so I guess like, oh Halley Spricker was born in 1901 in Greenville, Kentucky, and left home in her teens to search for better work.
9:38
SPEAKER_01: This pursuit took her all around the country, and at 35, with two failed marriages behind her, she settled in Port Angeles, Washington, taking a job at the Lake Crescent Tavern.
9:48
SPEAKER_00: Oh, so she was close to there.
9:51
SPEAKER_01: Like worked?
9:52
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
9:53
SPEAKER_00: Tavern.
9:53
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, she worked on the lake.
9:55
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
9:56
SPEAKER_01: In June 1936, Halle married Montgomery Monty Illingworth, a beer truck distributor who had frequented the tavern often.
10:04
SPEAKER_01: It was no secret that Monty treated Halle horribly, and those who were on them knew their marriage was tumultuous and volatile, with arguments often stemming from his drinking habit or suspected affairs.
10:16
SPEAKER_01: Many reports stated that on multiple multiple occasions Hallie came to work at the tavern with bruises, scratches, and black eyes.
10:23
SPEAKER_01: Not even five months into the marriage, during one argument, it was so brutal police were called to break up the fight.
10:29
SPEAKER_00: Wow.
10:31
SPEAKER_00: Okay, so if she And this is in the late 30s.
10:33
SPEAKER_00: This is late 30s, and they found her in 1940, and she they thought she had been there for three years, so he didn't report her missing.
10:40
SPEAKER_00: Okay, keep going, I need to hear more.
10:42
SPEAKER_01: Suspiciously, Halley was last seen December 22nd, 1937.
10:46
SPEAKER_01: Monty told everyone, including police during a later testimony, that Halley had threatened to leave him on multiple occasions and assumed she had finally done so when she had disappeared.
10:55
SPEAKER_01: With Halley still missing in 1938 and his claim she had potentially run off with a naval officer, Monty filed for and was granted a divorce.
11:03
SPEAKER_01: Following this, he wasted no time moving to California with a woman from town who was often the source of the former married couple's arguments.
11:12
SPEAKER_00: Uh-oh.
11:13
SPEAKER_01: The more investigators found out about Monty, the more he seemed like their guy.
11:17
SPEAKER_01: On October 26, 1941, almost four years after her disappearance, Monty was arrested in Long Beach, California and charged with first-degree murder of his former wife, which he denied.
11:27
SPEAKER_00: Well, duh.
11:28
SPEAKER_01: Sheriff Kemp went himself to Los Angeles to bring Monty back to Port Angeles for trial, which began on February 24th, 1942.
11:36
SPEAKER_01: The sensational trial was in competition with World War II headlines on the front pages, both local and nationwide.
11:42
SPEAKER_01: Everyone who had been captivated by the discovery of the Lady of the Lake was now closely following as the case unraveled.
11:48
SPEAKER_01: Courtroom was full with reports saying that a large crowd was spilling into the hallway and it was stand-in-room only.
11:54
SPEAKER_00: Okay, so we got like a OJ Coburger.
11:58
SPEAKER_01: That's exactly what Garrett said.
12:01
SPEAKER_01: He said he said the original OJ.
12:04
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
12:04
SPEAKER_01: But also it's a very small town in Washington.
12:07
SPEAKER_01: I mean it's still small today with and it's the 30s, so Okay, but I want to hear what evidence.
12:16
SPEAKER_00: Okay, well, Mom.
12:18
SPEAKER_00: Because uh now I'm gonna we're gonna get there.
12:20
SPEAKER_01: Come on.
12:21
SPEAKER_01: A large number of witnesses testified against Monty and confirmed his penchant for physical violence during his arguments with her.
12:27
SPEAKER_00: Okay, so we know the guy's a dirtbag.
12:29
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, during his arguments with Hallie.
12:31
SPEAKER_01: Lewis Bailey, Hallie's sister, claimed to have seen her beaten with black eyes on multiple occasions.
12:36
SPEAKER_01: He argued that the fighting was normal for them and said, in quotes, I struck Hallie, but she also struck me.
12:42
SPEAKER_01: I never beat her up.
12:44
SPEAKER_01: I did not kill Hallie.
12:46
SPEAKER_01: Testimony early on in the trial also tried to pin down when Hallie was last seen, and according to Lewis, who worked at a cafe in town, Monty had come by the morning after, saying he hadn't seen her since the night before and assumed she was with her sister.
13:01
SPEAKER_01: However, it didn't take prosecutors long before they were able to poke holes in the story.
13:06
SPEAKER_01: When Tony Enos, a friend and co-worker of Monty's, took the stand, he claimed Monty had taken that same morning off work, saying he needed to drop Hallie off at the port Ludlow Ferry.
13:16
SPEAKER_00: Okay, so crack is a story.
13:18
SPEAKER_01: Well, and that's the third story at this point.
13:20
SPEAKER_01: So before he he said She ran away.
13:22
SPEAKER_01: She ran away.
13:23
SPEAKER_00: And then she was with a naval officer.
13:25
SPEAKER_01: Mm-hmm.
13:25
SPEAKER_01: This one he was like, Oh, I thought she was with you.
13:27
SPEAKER_00: And then I dropped her off at the station.
13:30
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
13:30
SPEAKER_01: Couldn't even get his story straight.
13:33
SPEAKER_01: Other witnesses then confirmed items found in the body and clothing worn were items that Holly had been seen in before, leaving no doubt that the body was her.
13:41
SPEAKER_01: Most importantly, the dental plate.
13:43
SPEAKER_01: The defense tried to rattle the old dentist, but Dr.
13:45
SPEAKER_01: Albert McDowell refused to back down.
13:47
SPEAKER_01: He confirmed the custom made dental plate included uncommon peculiarities that didn't exist on Jacene Bridge.
13:54
SPEAKER_01: Harry Brooks, owner and operator of the La Poel Resort, was another one of the 65 witnesses called to the stand.
14:00
SPEAKER_01: According to him, in December of 1937, Monty came in asking if he had any rope that he could borrow to help tow a disabled beer truck.
14:07
SPEAKER_01: The rope was never returned, and Dr.
14:09
SPEAKER_01: Larson, the same pathologist who determined her state of saponification, testified that the rope found on the victim's body and the same type of rope that Mr.
14:18
SPEAKER_01: Brooks still had were the exact same fibers.
14:22
SPEAKER_00: Okay, that's evidence I was looking for.
14:25
SPEAKER_01: Throughout the trial, Monty was insisting that he was innocent, and according to an article from the Peninsula Daily News, Monty insisted that he and Tony Enos were at Fort Warden on the evening of December 21st putting on entertainment for soldiers.
14:37
SPEAKER_01: When he returned the next morning, Halley was in bed asleep.
14:40
SPEAKER_01: He said that Halley later got up and went to work, but came home, quote unquote, tight, and he said he walked out because no one could argue with Halley when she was drinking.
14:49
SPEAKER_01: Monty said that he returned home that evening and Halle and all of her clothes were gone.
14:56
SPEAKER_01: He also stood by the fact that the body was not Hallie's, which was the main argument of the defense.
15:03
SPEAKER_00: Okay, but we've already proved the rope was used, it was the same, her dental bridge, her clothes she was wearing, and they knew what color of hair she had.
15:11
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
15:12
SPEAKER_01: Monty's attorney tried to convince the judge to dismiss the case due to lack of evidence, which was quickly denied.
15:18
SPEAKER_01: Three separate doctors were called to the stand to testify the legitimacy of the body being in water for so long without succumbing to the elements.
15:26
SPEAKER_01: So this is no button.
15:27
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but that's something he didn't consider.
15:29
SPEAKER_01: Uh-huh.
15:30
SPEAKER_01: They claimed the body which is said to be in which was said to be in the water for 31 months would be skeletal at this point, and this body had only been in the water four to six months because of the lack of decomposition.
15:42
SPEAKER_01: However, under cross-examination, it was revealed that they didn't actually examine the body, and that was based on their medical understanding of saponification.
15:50
SPEAKER_00: Okay, so they didn't witness it, they didn't know about it.
15:53
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
15:53
SPEAKER_01: Nope.
15:54
SPEAKER_01: In the same Peninsula Daily News article, one doctor believed that a fish would have eaten the body before 31 months elapsed, but that did not account for the body being tightly wrapped in blankets.
16:05
SPEAKER_01: That's kind of what you thought.
16:07
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
16:08
SPEAKER_01: The defense then went on to claim that Hallie was still alive.
16:11
SPEAKER_01: Multiple witnesses were called to the stand that said to have seen her after her disappearance.
16:15
SPEAKER_01: One claimed to have seen her in Sitka, Alaska, but after being cross-examined, it was revealed he didn't even know Hallie, but was a friend of Monty's.
16:23
SPEAKER_01: Another witness claimed to have seen her alive in Long Beach, California, and this witness was none other than Flossie Illingworth, Monty's mother.
16:33
SPEAKER_00: Okay, so his mom didn't like her either.
16:36
SPEAKER_00: Guess not.
16:37
SPEAKER_01: The jury reached a verdict within four hours, and Monty was charged with second-degree murder and was given a life sentence to be served at the Washington State Penitentiary in Walla Walla.
16:48
SPEAKER_01: Unfortunately, even though he had a life sentence, he was released after only serving nine years granted and he was granted parole in 1951.
16:57
SPEAKER_01: Where he returned to California and died in 1975.
17:02
SPEAKER_01: Oh well.
17:04
SPEAKER_01: How do you get a life sentence and only serve nine years?
17:08
SPEAKER_00: I mean, how are you convicted felon and get your felony expunged?
17:13
SPEAKER_01: This was not the last of Halle Illingworth and the Lady of the Lake, however.
17:16
SPEAKER_01: The Lake Crescent Tavern, now known as the Lake Crescent Lodge, has staff and patrons that have reported paranormal happenings where she used to work.
17:24
SPEAKER_01: Many believe this is her restless spirit due to the violent nature of her death.
17:28
SPEAKER_01: Guests and staff say they hear someone walking up and down the stairs, doors banging shut in the middle of the night, unlocking and locking of these doors, and the lights flickering.
17:39
SPEAKER_01: An apparition of the lady in a green dress, similar to the one that Hallie's body was found in, has been spotted at the edge of the lake multiple times over the years, only to vanish when people approach her.
17:50
SPEAKER_01: Guests have also reported having dreams of a woman dressed in vintage clothing trying to communicate with them only to wake up feeling unexplainable sadness.
17:58
SPEAKER_00: Oh, that is sad.
18:00
SPEAKER_00: I mean, just let her rest in peace.
18:02
SPEAKER_01: A documentary titled The Lady of the Lake was set to be released in 2025.
18:07
SPEAKER_01: And it was December 2025.
18:09
SPEAKER_01: Ryan Grulich, director of this part True Crime documentary, part paranormal investigation, intended to explore Halley and Ellingworth's life and the lasting impact the Till has had on the Olympic Peninsula.
18:21
SPEAKER_01: The documentary said to include historical footage and interviews with medical student Harlan McNutt, who helped examine the body and then a separate investigation into the myths and supernatural aspects of the case.
18:33
SPEAKER_01: Ryan Greellich said it really made sense for us to look at Halley's story as one of reclaiming her power and becoming something more than a victim.
18:40
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we'll have to watch that.
18:42
SPEAKER_00: I mean, I think at least to honor her and watch it, maybe learn a little more.
18:48
SPEAKER_00: Look at what we've learned today.
18:50
SPEAKER_00: We've learned some science.
18:55
SPEAKER_00: I won't be going to that Crescent Lodge.
18:57
SPEAKER_00: I mean, we don't need to worry about that, and we're not gonna take a field trip there, so we we won't be doing that.
19:05
SPEAKER_00: I think from a believability, obviously that's a 10, right?
19:10
SPEAKER_00: This true story, so no no question there.
19:14
SPEAKER_00: I'm glad that they this was such a popular story that there's a there's a lot of information on it, you know, even all these years later, because in that time, especially during the war, it could have been a buried story.
19:28
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I think because it was so unusual, that's why it it gained a lot of media attention, and because of that, we're able to know about it today.
19:37
SPEAKER_00: Because otherwise, yeah, it would totally would have been buried.
19:40
SPEAKER_00: Just been buried, especially with the war.
19:41
SPEAKER_00: So I think that's great.
19:43
SPEAKER_00: Creepy factor, I mean, it's real high for me.
19:45
SPEAKER_00: Like, I mean, I know I'm not like I said, I'm not going to the lake.
19:48
SPEAKER_00: I think uh I mean not not just the ghost part, but just the whole fact of the the lake and what it can do to a a body, right?
19:57
SPEAKER_00: Knowing that as such a a rare process and clearly um this you know guy thought he got away with a perfect crime and he clearly had a story that someone believed at some point since he was granted a divorce.
20:12
SPEAKER_01: Well, and I don't understand uh this a lady allegedly he had been having affairs with during his marriage.
20:20
SPEAKER_01: What did he tell her?
20:22
SPEAKER_01: She ran away?
20:24
SPEAKER_01: But then but then there's pictures of her supporting him at the trial.
20:27
SPEAKER_01: So does she just think he's innocent?
20:30
SPEAKER_01: Like, oh, they're making it up.
20:31
SPEAKER_00: Okay, but once a dirt bag, always a dirt bag.
20:34
SPEAKER_00: So that's probably didn't work out great for her either.
20:36
SPEAKER_00: I feel bad.
20:37
SPEAKER_00: But yeah, I think um creepy factor, I'm gonna give it a nine.
20:43
SPEAKER_00: I mean, just the whole yeah, I'm really glad those fishermen found her and that they were able to find justice because I was really worried when you started the story about the lack of evidence they would have given given that.
20:56
SPEAKER_00: So um good job to the to the dentist, you know.
21:00
SPEAKER_00: This is the you know early 40s, so it wasn't we don't w we don't have, you know, these amber alerts and all these other types of things as technology.
21:09
SPEAKER_00: So it was, you know awesome that they were able to to see this across the finish line.
21:18
SPEAKER_01: Well, it's kinda crazy that they were able to find someone that recognized their own work.
21:23
SPEAKER_01: Just based off pictures or I don't know if they used a description, but you know, this is before internet, before telephones, before this was snail mail.
21:34
SPEAKER_01: It was wasn't telegraph.
21:37
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
21:38
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, awesome.
21:39
SPEAKER_00: I love it.
21:40
SPEAKER_00: Very sorry.
21:40
SPEAKER_01: Yep.
21:42
SPEAKER_00: And spooky with the you hadn't heard of the the corpse wax stuff.
21:47
SPEAKER_00: No.
21:47
SPEAKER_00: No, I like said I learned or I learned something today.
21:52
SPEAKER_01: Crazy stuff.
21:53
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, there were I can't find them now, but there were Facebook comments or comments on a on a post saying that when they were kids they were told not to swim in the lake because they would turn into soap.
22:06
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, imagine.
22:06
SPEAKER_01: It was like a like a tail not to not to go in the water.
22:13
SPEAKER_01: Just because it is so old.
22:16
SPEAKER_01: Who knows what's happened there?
22:20
SPEAKER_01: Well, and there's other theories that there could potentially be other sapanified bodies in that lake, but they're trapped in our debris or they're just not as covered, yeah.
22:34
SPEAKER_00: Chain instead of a rope, you know, something like that.
22:38
SPEAKER_01: Or yeah, uncovered, and so they're you know, destroyed by the lake.
22:43
SPEAKER_01: But yep.
22:45
SPEAKER_01: Crazy story, creepy story, but that is Lady of the Lake, also known as Halle Ellingworth.
22:53
SPEAKER_01: We'll not be going there to the list of places we will not be visiting.
22:57
SPEAKER_01: Alright, thank you for listening, and be sure to subscribe to the podcast so you get notifications when new episodes come out, which is every Thursday.
23:07
SPEAKER_01: We're hoping to get video up and running soon.
23:11
SPEAKER_01: So follow our YouTube channel, Early Beloved Podcast, our Instagram and our TikTok, both also Early Beloved Podcast.
23:20
SPEAKER_01: And if you have any stories of your own, uh cases you want us to look into local legends, lore, any of that stuff, send an email to early belovedpodcast at gmail.com.
23:33
SPEAKER_01: Okay, bye.
23:34
SPEAKER_01: Bye.