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Furness Show 11-12: Anne McCoy out, Stewart Mandel, Mike Holmgren · The Ian Furness Show

• 0:00
  Speaker 1: Anybody want to comment on Dan Wilson not winning Manager
• 0:02
  Speaker 1: of the Year. Okay, that's your comment and locked on
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  Speaker 1: the manner responsible post gust.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, yeah, big fans of Dan Wilson, we are
• 0:14
  Speaker 2: You're not so, but like it is a regular season award.
• 0:18
  Speaker 2: So a lot of people that are like, oh, how
• 0:20
  Speaker 2: can you watch the postseason and put him into the
• 0:22
  Speaker 2: manager of the year conversation? Guys, it's a regular season
• 0:25
  Speaker 2: award was voted on before the season was over, just
• 0:27
  Speaker 2: so everyone knows.
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  Speaker 1: You know, what's interesting is I now listen, I don't
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  Speaker 1: have the you know, I heard Mark earlier. He's Mark
• 0:37
  Speaker 1: at one good point about Dan Wilson. I know he
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  Speaker 1: was like celebrating kind of that he didn't get it right. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: you do you but I I you know the one
• 0:46
  Speaker 1: that they did pump up the Sporting News. Mark's got
• 0:48
  Speaker 1: a point, like I didn't know the Sporting News still.
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  Speaker 3: Existed, they even have radio, Like do.
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  Speaker 1: They really sports still around? Because like like Sports Illustrated
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  Speaker 1: kind of exists still sort of right kind of Sporting
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  Speaker 1: dot Com. Well, Sporting News was like off brand Sports
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  Speaker 1: Illustrated without good pictures, without without good photography. I didn't
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  Speaker 1: know they still existed. If I got named sports Sports,
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  Speaker 1: sporting news radio host of the Year, which I won't,
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  Speaker 1: but if I did, I'd be like, whatever, I didn't
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  Speaker 1: know you guys existed. So that one doesn't matter. This
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  Speaker 1: is the one that mattered. The one last night when
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  Speaker 1: the Major League Baseball decides are going to elongate the
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  Speaker 1: awards presentations over the course of like four days.
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  Speaker 2: I will say the what it feels like Coach of
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  Speaker 2: the Year, Manager of the Year, and every sport has
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  Speaker 2: turned into is who has the worst team that still
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  Speaker 2: made the playoffs?
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  Speaker 1: Correct?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's exactly what's happened.
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  Speaker 1: But that's why I want to bring up Dan for
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  Speaker 1: a second. Yeah, because I know, for some reason in
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  Speaker 1: this town, not for some reason, I understand Baseball Guy,
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  Speaker 1: I would put you into that category. I would put Crawford, Chuck, Bucky,
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  Speaker 1: Nathan shean Ino, all our baseball guys. Now, not all
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  Speaker 1: of you guys share the same opinion of Dan Wilson
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  Speaker 1: by any means, but Baseball Guy, a lot of baseball
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  Speaker 1: guys did. There's a lot of questioning of Dan Wilson,
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  Speaker 1: not just in the playoffs, like there was people I
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  Speaker 1: can tell you that. We probably had a dozen shows
• 2:12
  Speaker 1: during the course of Molliwatt Mondays where Chris and Nathan
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  Speaker 1: both said, we're really worried about when they get to
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  Speaker 1: the playoffs. Is Dan Wilson going to be capable and
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  Speaker 1: a capable manager in the playoffs. My thought always was,
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  Speaker 1: I don't care. Let's just get to the playoffs. They've
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  Speaker 1: been there five times in the previous forty eight years.
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  Speaker 1: Let's just get there. Hard to complain at that time, right.
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  Speaker 1: I'm a little biased because I like Dan a lot.
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  Speaker 1: I've known him for a little bit. I like Dan
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  Speaker 1: a lot, and I think he was putting a tough
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  Speaker 1: situation a year ago, like a really tough situation. Not
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  Speaker 1: only you replacing service late in the year, but you're
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  Speaker 1: given the job right then and there without any questions asked,
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  Speaker 1: And that caused a lot of consternation in this town.
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  Speaker 1: His regular season records for nominal guys and it's and
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  Speaker 1: you said it, it's a regular season award. They came
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  Speaker 1: back and rolled through the West, which has last I checked.
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  Speaker 1: A pretty good team named the Astros, another pretty good
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  Speaker 1: team named the Rangers. Yeah, like they did a lot.
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  Speaker 1: Helped me out to Cleveland win their division. They did okay,
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  Speaker 1: they also navigated. Did Stephen vote pretty tough waters with
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  Speaker 1: the Ortiz and class eighth?
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  Speaker 4: Absolutely?
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  Speaker 1: So to me, it's almost a push in a sense.
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  Speaker 1: I agree, But I would have liked to have seen
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  Speaker 1: Dan win it. I think it would now. I'm also
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  Speaker 1: not one that wants to see Dan get fired, right,
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  Speaker 1: and a lot of people he won't. He won't, there's
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  Speaker 1: no way. But I'm gonna say something. You tell me
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  Speaker 1: if I'm wrong. I think there's a lot of people
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  Speaker 1: want to him out.
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  Speaker 5: Yeahtely during the six weeks before they won the AL West,
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  Speaker 5: during that.
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  Speaker 2: During the playoffs, even during the playoffs. During the playoffs,
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  Speaker 2: it was like, oh, there was questions.
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  Speaker 1: There was a lot of like, we want Dan out.
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  Speaker 3: He made bad decisions to some people.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I just I don't know, Like I just I
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  Speaker 1: think in Dan's case, God, how much of that stuff
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  Speaker 1: I want to think he's got. You ever watched twenty
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  Speaker 1: four with Keith keis other way? So there's there's like
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  Speaker 1: a real if B that you can kind of see.
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  Speaker 1: But then he always had the little look like an
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  Speaker 1: ear plug that was in I swear I think Dan
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  Speaker 1: had an ear plug in see and I think that
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  Speaker 1: ear plug was was was right upstairs, like you know,
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  Speaker 1: like like like like Jack Bauer is talking to you know,
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  Speaker 1: Central Intelligence and what yeah or Zoe or whatever name
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  Speaker 1: was right like he's talking to her. Yeah. I think
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  Speaker 1: Dan had that. And it was the POTO pulling the
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  Speaker 1: strings half the time and the analytics department going this
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  Speaker 1: is what you do, this is what you do. Now.
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  Speaker 1: I exaggerated a little bit, but I just I thought, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: well Dan didn't win it. I also think it's a
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  Speaker 1: bad I think it's a pet precursor for the ales
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  Speaker 1: for the al MVP. I I really do. I think
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  Speaker 1: if I'm looking at one thing, I'm saying Canary Cave there,
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  Speaker 1: it is right there. And we talked about it, was
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  Speaker 1: she and yesterday she said his vote was Aaron judge
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  Speaker 1: and he explained why and whether we like it or not,
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  Speaker 1: there is an East Coast bias. Yes, there is the
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  Speaker 1: bias of guys. I mean, I don't know how many
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  Speaker 1: home runs Dan hit in the Pacific time zone, but
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna guess it's a lot. And Andrews, we have
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  Speaker 1: this conversation with hockey all the time.
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  Speaker 4: You mean home runs Cal hit Cal?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, cal hit. We have this long conversational hockey all
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  Speaker 1: the time. Yeah, Like there's a bunch of analytical stat
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  Speaker 1: nerds out there. Not my friend Allison. She's a nerd.
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  Speaker 1: We love her to death, and she also watches the games. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: they got these others like the Athletic, and I like
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  Speaker 1: the Athletic for everything. They have great hockey coverage, so
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  Speaker 1: to speak. But they just got people that I don't
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  Speaker 1: think they watch the games. They read the stats, yes, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and they put in a computer and spits it out.
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  Speaker 1: I think with the Mariners, I don't think that people
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  Speaker 1: watch the game back East. Let's say Dan, Let's say
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  Speaker 1: cal Rawly hit thirty five to forty percent of his
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  Speaker 1: home runs in the Pacific time zone, how many of
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  Speaker 1: those were seen by people that have votes because they
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  Speaker 1: don't bother to watch games. I'll be honest.
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  Speaker 3: Start a ten pm Eastern time.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't bother to watch a lot of things
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  Speaker 1: in the East. Starts at four o'clock. We're not ready
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  Speaker 1: to watch. I get it, but it's shoved down in
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  Speaker 1: the throats.
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  Speaker 6: You know.
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  Speaker 1: I do watch. I watch college football. I take a
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  Speaker 1: ton of games and I watch as much as I
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  Speaker 1: can WHYTX I have a heisman. But I think it's
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  Speaker 1: important to watch games if you have a vote. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I think it's important to watch games. But I think
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  Speaker 1: in Dan's case, Dan, I keep saying Dan, Cal's case.
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  Speaker 1: In Cal's case, I think seeing Dan Wilson not get
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  Speaker 1: that award when he very easily could have, especially since
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  Speaker 1: the guy that won it won it last year, and
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  Speaker 1: usually you just kind of unless it's such an obvious
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  Speaker 1: thing with the cy Young right, really obvious, you just
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  Speaker 1: kind of go on. I just I have a feeling
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  Speaker 1: that the only thing that saves cal Rawley is Yankee's
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  Speaker 1: fatigue Aaron Judge of fatigue. Yeah, there's the Yankee fatigue
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  Speaker 1: as a whole Yankee.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, that is real. I was just in New York
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  Speaker 5: last weekend and he's real there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I think with Cali, what will bum me out?
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  Speaker 1: And I'm looking too far ahead, I guess in a sense,
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  Speaker 1: but what will bum me out a little bit is
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  Speaker 1: that if he doesn't win it this year, I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if America never win it again, Like you like,
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  Speaker 1: just think about the season he had, the historical season
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  Speaker 1: he had. I disagree a little bit with Joe. I
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  Speaker 1: think you have to put more into the position he played.
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  Speaker 1: I think you have to put more to that.
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  Speaker 2: Well, and you remember, like, this isn't something new where
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  Speaker 2: Aaron Judge beats out a historic season for the MVP.
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  Speaker 2: He talked about it. He beat a normal show hey
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  Speaker 2: O Tawny season in twenty twenty two, right because of
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  Speaker 2: what he did. So it's not like it it's kind
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  Speaker 2: of this nowhere situation. He's a generational player, Aaron Judges,
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  Speaker 2: So it does kind of suck timing wise, that Cal's
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  Speaker 2: historic season himself falls in line with another great Aaron Judge.
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  Speaker 1: It does, it does, and and really, for being honest,
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  Speaker 1: you probably can't go wrong with whoever you vote for.
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  Speaker 1: But I just kind of felt like, Wow, Dan didn't
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  Speaker 1: get it, kind of was an obvious choice. Team didn't
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  Speaker 1: make the playoffs last year. His record since taking over
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  Speaker 1: is phenomenal.
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  Speaker 2: Well, and I put the Cow's season and Dan Wilson
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  Speaker 2: in the same category. I don't think it's a coincidence
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  Speaker 2: that Cow has this amazing breakout when Dan Wilson was
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  Speaker 2: the manager former catcher.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly understands the position lets him.
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  Speaker 4: Play every day.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it does not hold him back.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you're right with that. That's a great point,
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  Speaker 1: Andrews a fan. That's a great point because it probably
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  Speaker 1: isn't a coincidence. No, and you know, for cal to
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  Speaker 1: ever even come closer repeating that would be remarkable. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we'll see what happens. It's tomorrow, right, we'll find out tomorrow. Baseball,
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  Speaker 1: you guys, come on, man, you're not the NFL.
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  Speaker 3: Why are you waiting? I know, but didn't he stretching
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  Speaker 3: off with the series that we have.
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  Speaker 1: So you're gonna do it? Had to have Thursday night
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  Speaker 1: football instead, and that's a whole game.
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  Speaker 3: So I guess what I suppose we call him the
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  Speaker 3: business counter program?
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  Speaker 1: Is counter programming? Anyway? All right? Well enough, I was,
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  Speaker 1: I was. I'll wrap it up with this. I was
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  Speaker 1: bummed out for Dan. I was hoping he would get it.
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  Speaker 1: And we can question Dan Wilson, and rightfully so, his
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  Speaker 1: decision making, whether he's got the Jack Bower ear piece
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  Speaker 1: in or not listening to what Jerry's telling him, we
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  Speaker 1: can question that. But what we can't question is the record.
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  Speaker 1: And we can't question the fact that they won the division,
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  Speaker 1: and we can't question the fact that they got to
• 9:32
  Speaker 1: the ALCS the manager had something to do with that, right, Like,
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  Speaker 1: I don't I hear people say anybody could do that.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I couldn't.
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  Speaker 2: If I were to ask you going into this week,
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  Speaker 2: who is more likely to win their award, Dan Wilson.
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  Speaker 1: Or Cal, I would have send Dan Wilson all day
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  Speaker 1: and every day. I figured that was just a no brainer.
• 9:51
  Speaker 1: New guy on the block, you know, all that kind
• 9:53
  Speaker 1: of stuff and and all those things. So yeah, we'll
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  Speaker 1: find out why. All right, coming up, Stuart Mande will
• 9:58
  Speaker 1: talk all things college football. We'll also get the coaching
• 10:01
  Speaker 1: carousel Jad jad paging, Jedfish paging Jad Fish. And I
• 10:09
  Speaker 1: don't know what jobs are even worth worth of damn
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  Speaker 1: to be honest with you, because I don't think I
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  Speaker 1: will LSU really, I don't know. We'll talk about that
• 10:16
  Speaker 1: with him, College football playoffs and so much more. Home
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• 11:00
  Speaker 1: All right, we go college football Time with our guys
• 11:02
  Speaker 1: Stuart Mandel from The Athletic and the Audible Podcast as
• 11:06
  Speaker 1: we crank things up down the final few weeks of
• 11:08
  Speaker 1: the regular season for college football. So, of course college
• 11:12
  Speaker 1: football Playoff on the minds of many college football fans,
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  Speaker 1: not really on the minds of those in this particular state. Hi, Stewart,
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  Speaker 1: how are you?
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  Speaker 8: I'm good?
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  Speaker 6: Are you?
• 11:21
  Speaker 1: I'm good? I'm good. Obviously, Washington losing to Wisconsin pretty
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  Speaker 1: much takes them out. I want to just get one
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  Speaker 1: thing clarified. Has somebody ask me this question and I'm
• 11:30
  Speaker 1: gonna go through this and you tell me if I'm
• 11:34
  Speaker 1: right here in terms of how this works, and that
• 11:36
  Speaker 1: is actually who gets in to the twelve team bracket.
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  Speaker 1: So when we're looking at rankings, I think it gives
• 11:42
  Speaker 1: us context. If I'm not mistaken, college football playoff twelve teams,
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  Speaker 1: and basically it's the five conference champions ranked highest by
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  Speaker 1: the CFP Selection Committee plus the next seven highest ranked teams, So,
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  Speaker 1: in other words, five conference champions. Now we're doing the
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  Speaker 1: math here. I think I'm correct, you're Stewart. We have
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  Speaker 1: just four power conferences now, and then that would leave
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  Speaker 1: a group of five in there as well. They don't
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  Speaker 1: have to be ranked in the College Football Playoff rankings.
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  Speaker 1: A group of five, it's just whoever the highest one
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  Speaker 1: would be at that point. So it's four plus one,
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  Speaker 1: and that means that a group of five school more
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  Speaker 1: than likely will be a twelve seed. Am I Am?
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  Speaker 1: I good with that? Am I accurate with that?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah?
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  Speaker 8: And it's important to note that while we assume that
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  Speaker 8: four of the five will be from the Power conferences,
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  Speaker 8: it's not written in the rules. So it's led to
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  Speaker 8: some fine mailbag question today, you know, as possible the
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  Speaker 8: ACC champion just doesn't make it right, like not, you know,
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  Speaker 8: uss and then maybe James Madison finish both finish ahead
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  Speaker 8: of Duke because Duke is five and four and believe
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  Speaker 8: it or not, controls his testing me in the a
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  Speaker 8: SEC And that's a fun thing to entertain I don't
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  Speaker 8: think that would happen, but it is I think a
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  Speaker 8: source of confusion. I think a lot of I think
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  Speaker 8: a lot of fans assume, Oh, it says in the
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  Speaker 8: rules like that the Big ten, Big twelve, ACC and
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  Speaker 8: SEC get a bit and that is not the case.
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  Speaker 1: So the yeah, so it so five conference champions could
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  Speaker 1: include two group of five, but it would always include
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  Speaker 1: a group of five because there's only four power conferences. Correct.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, and that was intentional that the group of five
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  Speaker 8: would get a spy.
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  Speaker 1: Year, gotcha? Okay, so that makes sense. So that brings
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  Speaker 1: us to the chaos that happened. Well, not so much chaos,
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  Speaker 1: but what we did see over the weekend. First of all,
• 13:35
  Speaker 1: me just go with Washington for a second. I want
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  Speaker 1: to get Stuart Mandel's thoughts on the Huskies. They lose
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  Speaker 1: to Wisconsin, they could still have a ten win season,
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  Speaker 1: but I just that would include I guess a bowl
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  Speaker 1: game if they were to get to ten wins. But
• 13:48
  Speaker 1: with Washington losing to Wisconsin, how bad a loss? Is
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  Speaker 1: that just in the grand scheme of things for Jedfish
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  Speaker 1: in the program or is it just hey, you know what,
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  Speaker 1: you are an outside shot? To get in anyway, and
• 13:58
  Speaker 1: you move on.
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  Speaker 8: It's not about the playoff or not the playoff. I
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  Speaker 8: think most people probably considered that a long shot anyway,
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  Speaker 8: But that was a terrible loss. Wisconsin is ranked ninetieth
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  Speaker 8: in SP plus. I mean, I know they have the
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  Speaker 8: history and they have a Big ten logo patch, but
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  Speaker 8: they're terrible. They scored seven points combined in their previous
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  Speaker 8: three games. And I know it was played in a
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  Speaker 8: monsoon and all that, but I think it really you know,
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  Speaker 8: I mean, they hadn't played well on the road before,
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  Speaker 8: but at least those were against good teams. Yeah, it
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  Speaker 8: made you think, like, huh, maybe they hadn't made as
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  Speaker 8: much progress as we thought.
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  Speaker 1: Is there anything to the West Coast teams playing, you know,
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  Speaker 1: in the on the road in the Midwest and in
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  Speaker 1: the Eastern time zone. For Washington has been a massive struggle.
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  Speaker 1: They've got the one win on the road in the
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  Speaker 1: Big Ten, and that was at Maryland. Everything else has
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  Speaker 1: been a massive struggle for them on the road. I
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: feels like Oregon's done okay. Their loss this year was
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  Speaker 1: at home to Indiana USC. I guess mixed results in
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: UCLA is just a train wreck. So is there anything
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  Speaker 1: to those West Coast teams playing in the Midwest? Do
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  Speaker 1: you think.
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  Speaker 8: I think yeah, I mean I think it goes both ways.
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  Speaker 8: You know, the Penn State laying that absolute egg at UCLA.
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  Speaker 8: It's not like you can blame it all on travel.
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  Speaker 8: I think travel is a factor. The numbers back it up. Now,
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  Speaker 8: a lot of my colleagues say that's an excuse. I
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  Speaker 8: don't want to hear about it, right, And there's also
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  Speaker 8: kind of no rhyme or reason too who it happens
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  Speaker 8: to and who it doesn't. I mean, Cow went to Virginia,
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  Speaker 8: I'm sorry to Louisville and knocked off a top fifteen
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  Speaker 8: Louisville team over the weekend. So it's not like it's
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  Speaker 8: some absolute But yeah, Oregon is tep one Oregon. It
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  Speaker 8: doesn't seem to matter where the game is or what
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  Speaker 8: the weather is, they still find a way to win
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  Speaker 8: on the road.
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  Speaker 1: Can Oregon still afford a loss? Like they're sitting there
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  Speaker 1: at eight and one overall, five and one in conference play?
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  Speaker 1: If if they lose one of USC or Washington, do
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: you think they're still in.
• 16:03
  Speaker 8: It's interesting because the committee last week kind of criticized
• 16:07
  Speaker 8: their schedule and even since yesterday, I'm on Twitter, I'm
• 16:12
  Speaker 8: caught up in this bizarre Texas A and M fans
• 16:15
  Speaker 8: upset that they're behind Indiana, and I pointed out that,
• 16:19
  Speaker 8: you know, by the rankings, Indiana's win at Oregon slightly
• 16:22
  Speaker 8: more impressive than A and M's at Notre Dame, and
• 16:26
  Speaker 8: somehow that became a referendum whose Oregon actually played and
• 16:29
  Speaker 8: who they actually beaten. To answer your question, I think
• 16:34
  Speaker 8: if it were to a good team, they probably wouldn't
• 16:37
  Speaker 8: drop that far, but they would put themselves at a
• 16:39
  Speaker 8: little bit of risk because we could see I mean,
• 16:44
  Speaker 8: there's a scenario where seven SEC teams finished ten or two,
• 16:47
  Speaker 8: ten and two or better. Probably not going to happen.
• 16:49
  Speaker 8: Probably somebody will suffer a loss they're not supposed to.
• 16:53
  Speaker 8: But you could see just more teams from those two
• 16:59
  Speaker 8: conferences than there are spots, So I don't think they
• 17:02
  Speaker 8: would be safe. But in most cases, right nine out
• 17:08
  Speaker 8: of ten cases, you would think a ten and two
• 17:11
  Speaker 8: Big ten team with a couple of good wins would
• 17:13
  Speaker 8: be in.
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's Stuart. It's interesting when we get to March Madness,
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: which I know you're very familiar with as well. You know,
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: the talk, which is just in my one man's opinion,
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: it is ridiculous to expand to seventy six. I know
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: it's probably going to be inevitable in twenty twenty seven,
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: but just it's ridiculous in the sense that, you know,
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: we don't need more teams like we looked at. I mean,
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: my buddy Gary Perris Shore at CBS, he's done the
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: exercise a million times. We have him on in the springtimes,
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: and it's you know, the teams that were on the
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: outside looking in last years. You know, the first four out,
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: the next four out, those teams have zero. They wouldn't
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: have done anything in the tournament. They didn't deserve to
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: be there. They didn't earn their way in, but they
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: were from big conferences and so people through a fit.
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: I think with the twelve teams Stewart, it feels like
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: it just will work out, like it just you know,
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: in the next three weeks, it feels like things will
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: worked out. And if we have a controversy, it's going
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: to be what we just talked about. It's going to
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: be a two loss team from the Big ten or
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: a two loss team from the SEC. I think am
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: I going down the right path there.
• 18:13
  Speaker 8: The biggest controversy that you can kind of see laying
• 18:16
  Speaker 8: out there is a nine and three Texas team that
• 18:20
  Speaker 8: has already beaten two top fifteen ish teams, Oklahoma and Bandy,
• 18:25
  Speaker 8: and to get to nine and three will need to
• 18:27
  Speaker 8: be either top five Georgia this week or top five
• 18:34
  Speaker 8: A and M in a couple of weeks. And I
• 18:37
  Speaker 8: think you'd have a hard time leaving that team out
• 18:39
  Speaker 8: three losses or not. But that would mean they're going
• 18:42
  Speaker 8: to maybe they would get in over ten into Oregon
• 18:45
  Speaker 8: or ten and to somebody else. I could see that
• 18:48
  Speaker 8: being hot the hot debate on the ESPN Selection show
• 18:52
  Speaker 8: that Sunday. But last year, and it's only one year
• 18:54
  Speaker 8: sample size, you know, it was a fake controversy, the
• 18:59
  Speaker 8: idea that the nine and three Alabama team that lost
• 19:03
  Speaker 8: to two six and six teams should be in above
• 19:05
  Speaker 8: SMU that it just wasn't controversial at the end of
• 19:09
  Speaker 8: the day, nobody. Most of the teams that will be
• 19:12
  Speaker 8: in contention for that last spot are not going to
• 19:14
  Speaker 8: have particularly great resumes, which is why I'm kind of
• 19:17
  Speaker 8: curious to see that Texas scenario, because they would arguably
• 19:20
  Speaker 8: have a really good resume. For a nine to three teams.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: Well, didn't Mario Christobal, didn't Miami scream and Yelle last
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: year too. It feels like they did am I wrong.
• 19:27
  Speaker 8: There, Miami, Miami. We actually had mur the Monday morning
• 19:33
  Speaker 8: after they lost the Syracuse.
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, No, I think it was after the Yeah.
• 19:37
  Speaker 8: It was the Tuesday ranking show that where they fell out.
• 19:41
  Speaker 8: He wanted to come on the show and make their case.
• 19:45
  Speaker 8: But then by the time you got to the actual
• 19:47
  Speaker 8: final ranking, like they weren't actually particularly close to making.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: It, right, right, Yeah, And Miami's the interesting one this year, right,
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: I mean, they're the highest ranked ACC team right now,
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: but they may not win the conference, like you said,
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: So what's Miami These paths to get in.
• 20:02
  Speaker 8: Miami's path is to win out and kind of watch
• 20:05
  Speaker 8: the carnage happen above them get in from fifteen to ten,
• 20:09
  Speaker 8: which looks like it's gonna be the cut off for
• 20:10
  Speaker 8: an at large Bertha is entirely, entirely realistic. And then
• 20:16
  Speaker 8: the other thing I think they had going for them
• 20:18
  Speaker 8: is if Notre Dame. Well, ideally for all these A
• 20:21
  Speaker 8: large teams, nor Dame will lose again and just free
• 20:23
  Speaker 8: up a spot. But if they don't, and Miami suddenly,
• 20:28
  Speaker 8: going into the last week the season is now only
• 20:30
  Speaker 8: one or two spots behind Notre Dame. With the committee
• 20:33
  Speaker 8: then say okay, yeah, there was the head to head there,
• 20:35
  Speaker 8: we're gonna flip them. That's not I don't think it's
• 20:39
  Speaker 8: coming up right now because they're so far apart. But
• 20:40
  Speaker 8: if they're right behind each other, it'll be hard to
• 20:43
  Speaker 8: ignore that.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: Well, because Pittsburgh is a Miami's test this week, and
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: that's I mean, that's a massive game. If they get
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: by Pittsburgh that they're going to Notre Dame. That is,
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: if they get by Pittsburgh, they have Syracuse the Stamford
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: to finish off the season, and they're going to finish
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: I mean, they're going to finish ten to two. Like
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: that's a I think the only now, again it's college football,
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: who knows, but it feels like the only land mine
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: left for from Notre Dame is that game. And that's
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: a big game for them because you know, Pittsburgh's a
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: ranked team, they're twenty second in college football ranking. So
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: Notre Dame let's assume they win that one. You can
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: almost guarantee that they're in As you mentioned, with a
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: group of five schools guaranteed in. That's that's the those
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: are the last you know, those are the last two spots.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: Notre Dame wouldn't be necessarily the last two spots, but
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: that that brings people's people asking me like why would
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: Miami have to get up or whoever have to get
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: up to you know, there's ten spots, because that's what
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: it is. There's ten spots at that point, right, yeah.
• 21:34
  Speaker 8: I mean Notre It's pretty telling that Notre Dame has
• 21:36
  Speaker 8: been the highest ranked two lost team in each of
• 21:39
  Speaker 8: these first two ranking. They're they're ninth right now. And
• 21:43
  Speaker 8: if they continue, if they beat Pitt and continue to win,
• 21:45
  Speaker 8: why would they you know, fall back. There's no you know,
• 21:49
  Speaker 8: teams are going to lose, right Like I know, it's yes,
• 21:52
  Speaker 8: it's fun to look at these and go, what if
• 21:54
  Speaker 8: there's eight ten and one ten and two teams and
• 21:56
  Speaker 8: blah blah blah. No, like this is November in college football.
• 21:58
  Speaker 8: Somebody's gonna lose games that they aren't expected to lose.
• 22:03
  Speaker 8: Maybe it'll be Oregon, maybe it'll be Notre Dame. We'll see,
• 22:06
  Speaker 8: but this will these teams will not all be eleven
• 22:09
  Speaker 8: and one and ten and two come December seventh.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: Twelve teams is fun to talk about? Sixty four, well,
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: sixty eight, I guess it's fun to talk about. I
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: mean it's honestly the weeks leading up to selection Sunday,
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: March maadis I love it. I mean, I'm a college
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: basketball fan, so I enjoy those weeks. Yeah, I love
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: I love the conversation, I love the talk, and I
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: love this with the twelve even with twelve teams. I
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: hated it with four teams. I just I absolutely despise
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: it with four teams. I thought, you know, and I
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: think you wrote about this like you'd have one hundred
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: and fifteen teams or so one hundred and ten teams
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: in the country that know they had no chance to
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: get in. So but if that scenario existed today, how
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: crazy would it be? Stuart And I guess it is
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: different though, right, the timing is different because we had
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: conference expansion. But boy, if we still had that fourteen playoff,
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: this would be a disaster.
• 22:55
  Speaker 8: I never really, not never. It was it was rare
• 22:58
  Speaker 8: that we got to the end of the fourteen to
• 23:00
  Speaker 8: the season with forty and I said, oh, they got it,
• 23:02
  Speaker 8: totally wrong, right. I didn't vehemently disagree with leaving out
• 23:06
  Speaker 8: Florida State that last year, but there was no other
• 23:09
  Speaker 8: thing where it's like somebody got totally jobbed. But I
• 23:12
  Speaker 8: do think that would happen.
• 23:13
  Speaker 6: Now.
• 23:14
  Speaker 8: It's very you know, it wasn't planned this way, but
• 23:17
  Speaker 8: it's very fortuitous that it expanded twelve the year that
• 23:20
  Speaker 8: the Big ten and SEC basically took over college football
• 23:26
  Speaker 8: because the conferences got even bigger, which means the schedule
• 23:29
  Speaker 8: has got even more imbalanced. Look at the ACC this year,
• 23:33
  Speaker 8: so you could just see getting to the end of
• 23:34
  Speaker 8: the year and I mean, look at Ole Miss, right,
• 23:39
  Speaker 8: They're probably going to go finish eleven and one, and
• 23:42
  Speaker 8: that in the fourteen playoff would be like great, they're
• 23:44
  Speaker 8: eleven and one. They're going to end up with like
• 23:46
  Speaker 8: one good win in the whole season. They will probably
• 23:48
  Speaker 8: be there will be ten and two teams that have
• 23:51
  Speaker 8: better records than eleven and one Old Miss. But would
• 23:53
  Speaker 8: the committee actually do that in a fourteen playoff? Probably not.
• 23:57
  Speaker 8: So I think it's it worked out very well. And also,
• 24:02
  Speaker 8: like this is what this twelve team playoff is, what's
• 24:04
  Speaker 8: keeping the Big twelve and ACC relevant because you know,
• 24:10
  Speaker 8: At some point I became a TV ratings s geek
• 24:12
  Speaker 8: and I tweed out the ratings every week. And like
• 24:14
  Speaker 8: the UYU and Texas Tech played a Top ten game
• 24:17
  Speaker 8: last week that got two I think four million viewers,
• 24:21
  Speaker 8: which was two million less than Indiana, Penn State, Penn
• 24:24
  Speaker 8: State three and six. Like that is the world we
• 24:27
  Speaker 8: live in now. Everybody pays attention to the Big ten
• 24:29
  Speaker 8: and SEC way more than the other conferences. But the
• 24:32
  Speaker 8: one thing that's keeping them relevant is their champion is
• 24:35
  Speaker 8: going to go to the playoffs. Right, the Texas Tech
• 24:37
  Speaker 8: UIU game matters because their champion is going to go
• 24:40
  Speaker 8: to the playoffs, and that wouldn't necessarily been the case
• 24:43
  Speaker 8: in a fourteen playoff.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: No exactly. It is Stuart Mandel from The Athletic The
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: Edible podcast as well joining us week we visit. Let
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: me I want to get the coaching carousel. That's also
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: fun to discuss and toss around there as well. Before
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: I get into some specific openings and names, let's just
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: talk to LSU for a second. What the hell's going
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: on there, Steward? I mean, like, what the I mean?
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: You've got a governor that's that says the ad is
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: in charge and he's not in charge, and he's got
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: you you know they are they going to have a
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: guaranteed contract and if not, what does that mean or
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: what's the buyout going to be? What are they doing
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: with Brian Kelly? Is he actually gonna get paid his money?
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: What is LSU doing?
• 25:21
  Speaker 8: Just a just a full on dysfunctional mess where it
• 25:26
  Speaker 8: seems like nobody's in charge, including the governor who like
• 25:29
  Speaker 8: says these things and says, well, I'm not going to
• 25:31
  Speaker 8: pick the coach. The Brian Kelly trying to get out
• 25:35
  Speaker 8: of the buyout. I guess that's not surprising. I guess
• 25:38
  Speaker 8: you got to try when you've committed fifty three million dollars.
• 25:41
  Speaker 8: But they're you know, the the idea that Scott Woodward
• 25:44
  Speaker 8: didn't have the authority to fire him for performance is outragious.
• 25:47
  Speaker 8: They literally put out a press release that said so yes,
• 25:51
  Speaker 8: And so the question becomes like in a in a vacuum,
• 25:54
  Speaker 8: LSU does a great job, right, I Mean, there's a
• 25:56
  Speaker 8: reason three coaches in a row won a national championship there.
• 26:00
  Speaker 8: But if you're laying Kiffin and you're being lewed by them,
• 26:03
  Speaker 8: but also Florida or obviously the opportunity to stay at
• 26:06
  Speaker 8: ole myths. I wouldn't touch that job. I mean, they're
• 26:08
  Speaker 8: they're you know, they're gonna they're probably gonna throw a
• 26:11
  Speaker 8: contract at you and say, look at all this money
• 26:13
  Speaker 8: we're giving you, but if you if we fire you
• 26:15
  Speaker 8: in three years, we're gonna try to get out of
• 26:17
  Speaker 8: paying you that money. The the a D that they
• 26:21
  Speaker 8: promoted Vergil Ausbury the new president, he was the president
• 26:25
  Speaker 8: was like announced that day and then six hours later
• 26:27
  Speaker 8: said okay, he's he's not the intermad anymore. But then
• 26:31
  Speaker 8: he didn't interview next day. It's kind of said he
• 26:32
  Speaker 8: still is. So I just think it's it's it's very
• 26:37
  Speaker 8: amusing to watch from afar, but fire and now, as
• 26:39
  Speaker 8: you fan, I'd be furious because they're they're just screwing
• 26:42
  Speaker 8: this up so badly.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, on the on the surface, you know,
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: let's play the ranking games on the surface, LS who
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: should be either one or one A right behind Florida
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: right in terms of the openings, and maybe that drops
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: it down. Then you've got Auburn, Virginia, Tech, Arkansas, Oklahoma State,
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: ucl Organ State, Caloros that u AB. I mean, you
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: get a bunch of teams in there that that aren't
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: big you know, that aren't going to go after big names.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: But but if you're just kind of ranking, let's just
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: do some of those top schools in a blender, LSU, Florida, Auburn,
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: Virginia Tech, Oklahoma State, U C l A. I mean,
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: how many of those are desirable? Pen and Penn State? Yeah,
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: and Penn State. How many of those are really desirable?
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: Like like what like how would you kind of put
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: that in in in some semblance of a ranking system
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: like our calls.
• 27:24
  Speaker 8: I mean, I think I think l s U, Penn State,
• 27:27
  Speaker 8: Florida are in the top tier. Those are places that
• 27:30
  Speaker 8: have one national championships that you can win national championships.
• 27:34
  Speaker 8: Auburn has one one not too long ago, but it's
• 27:37
  Speaker 8: harder there, so I mean, but but look, I mean,
• 27:42
  Speaker 8: if you're John Sumrall, the coach of Tulane and LSU calls,
• 27:45
  Speaker 8: you're going to take the job, right, You're not going
• 27:46
  Speaker 8: to turn that down. It's more if for the link Kippens,
• 27:52
  Speaker 8: you know other coaches who might be who have options. Right,
• 27:57
  Speaker 8: maybe you say I want to go coach in the SEC,
• 27:59
  Speaker 8: but I don't want to coach at LSU. I want
• 28:02
  Speaker 8: to coach at LSU, Maybe I want to coach at
• 28:04
  Speaker 8: Auburn or Arkansas.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: Is Jim Mora a legitimate candidate for a big job.
• 28:12
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I would, I would think so. I don't know
• 28:13
  Speaker 8: about what big constitutes, but you know, you just have
• 28:16
  Speaker 8: so many of these Virginia Techs and home the States
• 28:19
  Speaker 8: and u c. L AS is not gonna hire him
• 28:22
  Speaker 8: though that level of program. And here's a guy who
• 28:27
  Speaker 8: he did win, have a couple of ten win seasons
• 28:29
  Speaker 8: at UCLA. Now he's doing miraculous work at Yukon. I mean,
• 28:33
  Speaker 8: you have to give him a call. I think people
• 28:35
  Speaker 8: are a little scared off still about how the UCLA
• 28:37
  Speaker 8: thing ended, But look at ucl since then, nobody, nobody
• 28:42
  Speaker 8: has done what you.
• 28:42
  Speaker 6: Would do there.
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: No, Well, I mean you look at I mean he
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: had this year's having this great year at seven and three.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: He was nine and four last year as a nine
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: win season for an independent Connecticut team. That's a nine
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: win season. And you know, I guess the only thing
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: I'd work. I mean, I'm sure.
• 28:55
  Speaker 8: You've seen the stat right, he has more wins over
• 28:58
  Speaker 8: ACC team the last two years in Florida State.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: That's a beautiful thing. I mean, and that's like he's
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: a guy that I think has to be considered. I
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: guess my thought would be, I wonder, hit sixty four.
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: Does that scare people off sixty four years old? Or
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: is if Jed Fish moves on, he's a perfect candidate
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: for his alma mater here in Seattle, I would think.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: But I don't know if they'd go down that road.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: And I don't even know if Jeed Fish is really
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: going to be a candidate. He came out and kind
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: of spained out.
• 29:28
  Speaker 8: I think, yeah, I think Jeff Fish may have lost
• 29:32
  Speaker 8: his suitors with that game the other day. But also
• 29:36
  Speaker 8: just like, like you know, it's not the end of
• 29:38
  Speaker 8: the world that Washington's not playoff team this year. Maybe
• 29:41
  Speaker 8: they will be next year. Maybe they're a year away,
• 29:43
  Speaker 8: but we might be jumping the gun a little bit
• 29:46
  Speaker 8: to put him up for those top jobs this year.
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's still fascinating stuff all the way around,
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: all right, Stuart, tell people about the audible podcast you
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: and Ralph and Bruce do. It's fantastic, folks about that.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: I love listening to it every week couple times at least.
• 30:02
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• 30:05
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• 30:07
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• 30:19
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• 30:21
  Speaker 1: football fan, it's a must download. It's a must listen.
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: And of course Stuart's stuff, the reaction stuff after Saturday games,
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: and of course your mail bag as well at the Athletic,
• 30:30
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• 30:32
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• 30:35
  Speaker 1: So keep up the good work and we will talk
• 30:38
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• 30:40
  Speaker 8: All right, thank guys.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: There you go. That is Stuart Mandel from The Athletic
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: and the Audible podcast. Go check that thing out. Fantastic
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: listen as well. All right, here's what's coming up on
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: the rest of the show today. We've got a little
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: daily power play next Crack and they get a point.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: They got a point last night, which is that's the
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: good news, such a good It's just it's the good news,
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: they got a point. The bad news is they now
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: have they have five overtime losses this season. It's insane.
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: Last night was in a shootout, so we'll talk about
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: that a little bit. Also, we'll get into Mike Homer,
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: who's gonna join us at two pm today. Oh boys
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: are a big game this week, huh Seattle and the Rams.
• 31:19
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  Speaker 1: world's of college athletics as we went to break there
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  Speaker 1: with Stuart Mandell. Percy Allen from The Times, first to
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  Speaker 1: tweet this out a short time ago and through a
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  Speaker 1: variety of phone calls. And I'm not gonna complain about
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: the length of a commercials today, thankfully we h we
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: have to for a McCoys out. As the athletic director
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  Speaker 1: at Washington State University, doctor Elizabeth Cantwell, who is the
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  Speaker 1: new president of the WSU system. Remember it's not just Pullman,
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: it's Pullman, Vancouver Spokanne, Try Cities, Everett. But she's a
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  Speaker 1: new president and I don't know how they're going to
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  Speaker 1: term it, Jess. I'm told it could be announced as
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: an early retirement. It doesn't matter. She's done. And let
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: me just say a couple of things. One, I like Anne.
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  Speaker 1: We had her in studio when she was first hired.
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  Speaker 1: We've had her on a couple other times. She replaced
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  Speaker 1: the former athletic director who went to Washington in a really,
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: really challenging time, a job that probably anybody that was
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: a sitting athletic director wouldn't take. With the uncertainty of
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: what was going on. That was pre Mountain West teams
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: coming and forming the new PAC twelve. It was before
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: TV contracts were done. President Schultz was still there, but
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: he had kind of one foot out the door. It
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: was a real I mean, it was an implied make
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: an argument among among schools that had football programs Division
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: and football programs in the country, could have been the
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: worst athletic director's job there was because of all the
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: uncertainty and took over as a long time employee there,
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: long time assistant athletic director, and did her very best.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: But you're around it every week, yep, I've I'm around
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  Speaker 1: it enough and hear enough and talked to enough people.
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  Speaker 1: A change need to be made. Doctor Cantwell has kind
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: of cleaned house on upper campus as well with some
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: other high ranking positions, quietly as there's a lot of
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: folks that were there for a long time that aren't
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: there anymore. Personally, as a I applaud whatever effort it
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: takes to do things like get admissions up and get
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: the athletic department back on its feet. There's only so
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: much you can do athletically obviously with the situation they're
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: going through right now. But frankly, when you're behind most
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: of the other schools coming into the new PAC twelve
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  Speaker 1: in fundraising and il everything else changed. How to be
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: made game by experience has been an absolute an app
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: and I'm talking about football. The football game by experience
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: this year, by all accounts, has been an absolute unmitigated disaster. Concessions,
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: lines to get in parking, the changes they've made, it
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: has been a horrible situation this year. And you're there
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: Mike goes.
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: He know he's there.
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: And the thing with that is that's the front door.
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: That's the front door. If you can't get that right,
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: how can you go to someone and get them to
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  Speaker 1: spend the money you need to sustain a high level
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: athletic department if you can't even get your damn concessions
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: correct it.
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  Speaker 3: That was late in the game for them to add
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: alcohol sales in the.
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: Matter, when you're running out of water on an eighty
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: degree day, that's why you can't get people in the
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: stadium on time, when parking is an absolute joke. So
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: that's what we're hearing. Not sure how the announcements can
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: be made, when it's gonna be made, or how it
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: will be framed, but I'll tell you it should be
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: framed in terms.
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  Speaker 6: She's out.
• 35:24
  Speaker 5: Yes, I just a little bit of news that actually
• 35:27
  Speaker 5: was announced a little quietly earlier today. Ikukabu, who is
• 35:31
  Speaker 5: the deputy assistant athletic director, is leaving for Utah State
• 35:36
  Speaker 5: and just confirmed that as well. So there when I
• 35:41
  Speaker 5: always thought that he would be an athletic director somewhere,
• 35:43
  Speaker 5: I thought maybe he would follow in Ann's footsteps here
• 35:47
  Speaker 5: at Washington State, except that he got the Utah State
• 35:50
  Speaker 5: job there, I think in the same capacity he served
• 35:53
  Speaker 5: at Washington State. But there is a mess exodus by
• 35:58
  Speaker 5: choice or not.
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  Speaker 1: Right now? Yeah, they're they're they're moving on. And uh,
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: like I said, she took over an impossible job. She
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: navigated some heavy, heavy waters and some rough sailing for
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: a while. But to take that next step again, however
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: they frame it, and it could be framed as a retirement,
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. I can tell you right now, she's
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: getting fired. It's that simple.
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: And sometimes there are tea leaves to be rented.
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and and probably it probably should be, Hey, you're
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: you're going to retire. She's done. She's worked at the
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: university for a couple decades and probably deserves years. Yeah,
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: and probably deserves that. But uh, yeah, good. I'll just say,
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: I'm you know, after the initial stun war off and
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: we started making some calls, I'm I'm glad we need
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: to take that next step, and it wasn't happening. An
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: athletic director today has to be a couple of things,
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: but first and foremost has to be a fundraiser, and
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: that wasn't her strength. She'll admit that. I'm sure and
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: the state of athletics over there is not good, just
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: isn't and I think because of that we've seen a
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: decline in enrollment. Among other things, the COVID situation has
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: helped as hurt enrollment at schools all across the state,
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: across the country, frankly, but that's why she made some
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: changes in that area as well, and on uper campus.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: But yeah, so there you go. Percy Allen first, the
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: reporter from the Times, and the two of us have
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: been working hard to confirm through a variety of different
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: sources in the last a little while that isn't too true.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: She is out so Washington State looking for a new
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: athletic director.
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: And some others on that support.
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: And some others on that support, and my understandings, a
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: couple of pretty good people that they've hired, the guy
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: from Oregon supposed to be really very good, and a
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: couple others. But yeah, they need to make some changes.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: So yeah, new athletic director comes to to Washington State
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: at some point. We'll wait and see what the release
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: says and on. But president can't well taking over for
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: President Schultz who kind of mailed it in as last
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: year or so, there did not live their previous athletic
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: director who really had one foot out the door his
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: final a year and a half there, and I was
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: no Bill Moose fan. I'll be honest with you in
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: any way, shape or form. But he did get things done,
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: even if he put us in debt. He got things done.
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: Hasn't really been the same since. Hasn't been the same since.
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  Speaker 1: All right, So yo, that's our breaking news. We'll come back.
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  Speaker 1: Hello, sir, how are you?
• 40:46
  Speaker 6: I'm doing good? My friend had a pretty good, pretty
• 40:48
  Speaker 6: good game last week?
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: Wow? Wow? Is that just a coach's dream when you
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: can just you know, the defense scores a couple of touchdowns,
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: you're an offensive play call, You're like, we're good. We're
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: done for the day. Thanks a lot, thanks for coming.
• 40:59
  Speaker 6: We're we're done. Yeah. Now I just have to don't
• 41:03
  Speaker 6: don't fumble the ball, don't peddle, you know, I'll just
• 41:05
  Speaker 6: call plays and we'll get through this.
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: Get it over with the Actually, I'm gonna just real
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: quickly looking back on that real fast along those lines,
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: because I mean, I think Donald through it. Two passes
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: the second half. One was intercepted. I mean it was
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: just kind of the Offensively, they kind of mailed it
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: in the second half, and I get why what they
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: were doing is that kind of like, hey, don't look
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: at anything in the second half Offensively that game it
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: was over at halftime.
• 41:29
  Speaker 6: Well, it kind of depends. You've seen teams that they
• 41:33
  Speaker 6: don't care. They're gonna pour it on and it's going
• 41:35
  Speaker 6: to happen that way. The only time I've been in
• 41:38
  Speaker 6: a game like that where I had to just shut
• 41:41
  Speaker 6: it down was against playing against Andy Reid, who was
• 41:44
  Speaker 6: my adopted son, and we were ahead of Philadelphia forty
• 41:47
  Speaker 6: to nothing with a lot of time left in the
• 41:50
  Speaker 6: third quarter. And so at that point I said, okay, enough,
• 41:53
  Speaker 6: I don't want pass, but getting hurt, I don't want
• 41:55
  Speaker 6: to get you know, we'll just run the ball every snap.
• 41:58
  Speaker 6: And I didn't throw the ball in the second half.
• 42:00
  Speaker 6: So but the other part of that is, you know,
• 42:05
  Speaker 6: I had a lot of friends in the coaching business,
• 42:07
  Speaker 6: and you compete like crazy, but then all of a sudden,
• 42:11
  Speaker 6: you know when it's done. You really do know when
• 42:13
  Speaker 6: it's done, and you don't want to stick guy's nose
• 42:16
  Speaker 6: in it.
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: I don't think, Mike, is that is that? Why is
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: that the difference really between college and NFL. I mean,
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: you coached in college with with Lavell at Uyu. It
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: feels like college is never it may never be over,
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: like you know, like in college, like teams come back,
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: crazy endings. We see it every Saturday night. The NFL,
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: you really kind of do know when it's over.
• 42:35
  Speaker 6: Right, You do know when it's over. And it's in college.
• 42:38
  Speaker 6: I think they're also shooting for playoff firsts and how
• 42:42
  Speaker 6: many points they score and all that kind of stuff.
• 42:45
  Speaker 6: But when I was coaching at BUYU, you know, we
• 42:47
  Speaker 6: we scored big against a lot of people, but there'd
• 42:51
  Speaker 6: be a time in the game every game and I
• 42:54
  Speaker 6: was on the sidelines and I wasn't calling the play
• 42:56
  Speaker 6: as Norm Chow was, but I was on the sidelines
• 42:59
  Speaker 6: sending them in and LaBelle would come over to me
• 43:01
  Speaker 6: and say, uh, don't throw it anymore. And that's all
• 43:05
  Speaker 6: we did. That's all we did. What are we supposed
• 43:09
  Speaker 6: to do? You know? But Norm would be on the
• 43:12
  Speaker 6: phone to me, he goes, he's coming towards you. Walkway quick,
• 43:15
  Speaker 6: move to the left. You know, he just wanted to
• 43:17
  Speaker 6: keep running it so or throwing it. But no, you're right.
• 43:21
  Speaker 6: In college football it's different.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: Let me ask you about this week, and let me
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: go with the mindset I always and when I had
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: to interview those guys after games and there's a big
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: game coming up the next week or that was a
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: big game, I always tried to hit it off with
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: the pass with a preface of a question by saying, Hey,
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: I know every week is a championship week, blah blah blah,
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: because that's what Pete said, right, it was every week's
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: championship week. And and they they and they, you know what, Mike,
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: for a while, it worked for them. I mean, I'll
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: give him credit. For a while, it worked for them.
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: But if we're being honest, when you're playing say this year,
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: if you're playing the Jets or whoever, it's different than
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: when you've got this game against a little team called
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Rams and here we are in you know,
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: week twelve of the NFL season, and the Rams are
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: a week eleven, I guess, and it's the Rams. This
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: is a different game. How do you approach this game?
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: How do you think Mike McDonald approaches it? Because these
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: guys are human beings, the fifty three guys in that
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: locker room, Mike, they're human beings, right. They know they
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: know what's at stake. They know this is the biggest
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: game in the NFL this weekend, along with maybe the
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: Lions and the Eagles. How do you, as a coach
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: approach this game?
• 44:38
  Speaker 6: Well, I think you have to respect the players and
• 44:41
  Speaker 6: their intelligence. First of all, Yes, is that like what
• 44:44
  Speaker 6: you said? They know, they know what this game means,
• 44:48
  Speaker 6: who they're playing, and things like that. And so the
• 44:51
  Speaker 6: best way I handled it was, listen, there are going
• 44:54
  Speaker 6: to be times you might hear me say this in
• 44:56
  Speaker 6: a press commerce or read it. You know, we take
• 44:58
  Speaker 6: one game at a time, but you guys know that
• 45:02
  Speaker 6: this is a different deal this week, and so we're
• 45:05
  Speaker 6: going to prepare a certain way. But you keep that
• 45:07
  Speaker 6: in your mind. This is different the players that I
• 45:10
  Speaker 6: had over the years, anytime we played the forty nine ers.
• 45:15
  Speaker 6: You know, so any time we played the forty nine ers,
• 45:17
  Speaker 6: whether I was in Green Bay or in Seattle, the
• 45:20
  Speaker 6: players would say he's different this week, he's different. And
• 45:26
  Speaker 6: I think it was a compliment. I don't know, but no,
• 45:29
  Speaker 6: and I couldn't you try and hide it, but you
• 45:31
  Speaker 6: can't hide it.
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: So how are practices? I mean, do you have to
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: kind of catch yourself as a coach and a coaching
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: staff because there's more pressure, there's more at stake. Do
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: you have to kind of catch yourself or I just
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: I mean, I bring all this up for this reason. Mike,
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: and you and I have talked for a long time,
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: and that's why I love having your perspective, because you
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: just said you got to respect the players intelligence. They're
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: going to say all the same things whether it's Sean
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: McVay or Mike McDonald. There's a human element involved here.
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: There's emotions involved.
• 46:01
  Speaker 6: Here, right, there is absolutely and so but that you know,
• 46:06
  Speaker 6: and you've been at this a long time and you've
• 46:08
  Speaker 6: you've heard coach speak I call it, and different things.
• 46:11
  Speaker 6: You go, I've heard that before, and then you kind
• 46:14
  Speaker 6: of smile and write down whatever you write down, or
• 46:17
  Speaker 6: broadcast whatever you broadcast. But you know, and the players know.
• 46:22
  Speaker 6: There is a human element absolutely, And like I said,
• 46:26
  Speaker 6: I could not hide that from my guys when we
• 46:28
  Speaker 6: played teams that I had been associated with, you know,
• 46:32
  Speaker 6: when we were in Seattle and went back to Green
• 46:35
  Speaker 6: Bay and played that game my first trip back to
• 46:37
  Speaker 6: Green Bay. The players knew. I didn't have to say
• 46:41
  Speaker 6: anything that week. And so yeah, that's the NFL. They're
• 46:45
  Speaker 6: smart and they know. But your practice is I absolutely
• 46:50
  Speaker 6: I think showed that in practice from my perspective, you know,
• 46:54
  Speaker 6: and hopefully the players got a hold of it that way.
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: I think that's what's so impressive about what both teams
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: did last week. I know, for they are beat up
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: and so forth, but the fact that the Rams dismantled them,
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: and then the same thing with the Seahawks. I think
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: the fact that they took care of business by the Cardinals.
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: Both those teams knew what was at stake this week.
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: Both those teams knew the Rams the Seahawks what was
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: coming up. They both knew what was happening, right, and
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: they both just took care of business. I thought that,
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: to me was as impressive as anything with what happened
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: last week.
• 47:21
  Speaker 6: It really was because you also saw some teams last
• 47:24
  Speaker 6: week in the NFL lose to teams they shouldn't lose to,
• 47:28
  Speaker 6: and so you run that risk a little bit too.
• 47:32
  Speaker 6: Not for a game of this magnitude, but when you
• 47:35
  Speaker 6: go in and you're a big favorite against the team,
• 47:38
  Speaker 6: maybe you all of them to Ford earlier in the season.
• 47:42
  Speaker 6: You have got to get be ready every week. And
• 47:45
  Speaker 6: in the game like this, you just look at the standings.
• 47:48
  Speaker 6: They're tied for the lead, they're ranked in the top
• 47:51
  Speaker 6: five in the in the in the in the NFL,
• 47:55
  Speaker 6: and they're both have in the back of their mind
• 47:58
  Speaker 6: super Bowl thoughts and so plus the fact that they're
• 48:02
  Speaker 6: the natural rivalry, it's the natural rivalry in the division.
• 48:06
  Speaker 6: So it's got it all. This is going to be
• 48:09
  Speaker 6: quite a week. This is going to be quite a game.
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: I just love it. I mean just I feel like
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: the NFL, we don't have enough of these games, you
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: know that. Just it feels like and they'll play again.
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: They've got a Thursday night game here in a few
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: weeks back here in Seattle. These two teams, but it
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: feels like they're two of the four or five best
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: teams in the NFC. Maybe the entire NFL coming up.
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: Mike holmbrin joining US Sean McVay is eleven and six
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: against the Seahawks two different coaches, but eleven and six
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: against the Seahawks and Sea team since he went to
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: Los Angeles, he's had some great success along the way.
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: What is it about Sean McVay and what the Rams
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: do offensively, defensively, just as a team, as as a
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: hole that impresses Mike Holmgrin.
• 48:46
  Speaker 6: Well, I think, first of all, he's a very bright guy,
• 48:48
  Speaker 6: and he knows offense and he knows I believe he
• 48:52
  Speaker 6: gets the absolute best out of his players. I think
• 48:55
  Speaker 6: they play hard for him, they understand him and shows.
• 49:01
  Speaker 6: And having said that, now it helps to have Matthew Stafford,
• 49:04
  Speaker 6: and it helps to have that quarterback, and then they've
• 49:07
  Speaker 6: drafted well and you know what, he just he just
• 49:10
  Speaker 6: revs them up and he gets them going, and he
• 49:13
  Speaker 6: absolutely their team knows what this rivalry is all about.
• 49:17
  Speaker 6: And I remember interviewing him when he was in the
• 49:20
  Speaker 6: Super Bowl and I did that broadcast, and of course
• 49:23
  Speaker 6: I played for his grandpa, you know, in San Francisco
• 49:26
  Speaker 6: when he was a little squirt running around on the
• 49:28
  Speaker 6: field and we laughed, and he I was just so
• 49:31
  Speaker 6: impressed with first of all his knowledge, yeah, and actually
• 49:36
  Speaker 6: his kind of humility, and yet for all the success
• 49:39
  Speaker 6: he's had. So no, I'd love to play for him.
• 49:42
  Speaker 6: I know his players love him.
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford, you've did you coach against him at all?
• 49:50
  Speaker 6: I don't think so.
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, probably right about the time. Yeah, I guess. God, Actually,
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: now that I think of it, it's been seventeen years. Yeah,
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: it's been a while. Stafford's old, but he guess he's
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: not quite that old yet.
• 50:04
  Speaker 6: So he can't with me.
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, yeah, that's right. Yeah, so it's
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: been a while. You have two thousand and nine Anders
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: City commun League. When you watch this quarterback play, the
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: thing that impresses me about him Mike and I maybe
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: this is a bad comparison. And a few Millin's listening.
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: He's gonna text me later and say, what are you thinking?
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: Have I taught you nothing? But I watch him. I
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: look at him and I think of him as a
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: better Ben Roethlisberger. But here's why. You know Roethlisberger as
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: you unfortunately well know, hard guy to bring down, right,
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: Like hard guy, like a big body guy, hard guy.
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: To bring down. But part of what he did is
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: he got rid of the ball quick. But also he
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: had those and you can talk about the traits of quarterbacks.
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: They have that little ability to just step for a
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: second in the in the in the pocket right, like
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: you're not going to outrun guys all the time, but
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: you're mobile enough and elusive enough. And it kind of
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: feels like he has a little bit of bend in
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: him in that regard. But that's just me. What what
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: do you see in Matt Stafford?
• 51:00
  Speaker 6: Oh no, I couldn't agree with you more. I think,
• 51:03
  Speaker 6: first of all, he's played a long time and he
• 51:05
  Speaker 6: really knows his system and he knows when he's in
• 51:10
  Speaker 6: trouble and he has a great feel for that unless
• 51:13
  Speaker 6: he gets hit from the backside and he can't see it.
• 51:16
  Speaker 6: But if he's got his protection down, he goes okay,
• 51:19
  Speaker 6: and now I'm gonna deal with this stuff on the
• 51:21
  Speaker 6: front side. Here, he knows when he has to deliver
• 51:24
  Speaker 6: the ball, and he's so accurate even when he gets
• 51:27
  Speaker 6: jammed up in trouble. And you'd never say, you'd never
• 51:31
  Speaker 6: call him a running quarterback. You wouldn't do that. So,
• 51:35
  Speaker 6: but he does have the ability as you pointed out,
• 51:38
  Speaker 6: to get out of jams, throw the ball quickly, know
• 51:42
  Speaker 6: where his checkdowns are. He's played a long time and
• 51:45
  Speaker 6: I think he's he's really shown that even more this season.
• 51:48
  Speaker 6: He's had a great season so far.
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: The pukin Nakua. Davante Adams, by the way, they just
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: said a minute ago, Davante Adams, I didn't practice, I
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: guess today, but he will play, McVeigh said on Sunday.
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: So to me, I kind of I'm looking at just
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: if you look at offense versus offense. You know, Stafford's
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: going to the Hall of Fame, Donald's having a great career,
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: our great year two years really Pokinakua, DeVante Adams and
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: then JSN against and I don't know who number two
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: is this week. If it's going to be Tory Horton,
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: if it's going to be Cooper Cup, if it's going
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: to be Rashid Shiheed, Kyron Williams a little bit more
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: effective than say Ken Walker, and they still can't decide
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: who their number one running back is the Seahawks, that is,
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: I feel like the Rams are a little better offensively
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: than Seattle, at least right now, I know we can
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: look at any number imaginable. But do you think the
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: Rams have a little bit of an advantage on the
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: offensive side.
• 52:41
  Speaker 6: I think they do. I think they do, and I think,
• 52:44
  Speaker 6: like you like Nikok, he's really good. I mean, he
• 52:48
  Speaker 6: is really good. And you could say the same thing
• 52:51
  Speaker 6: by JSM, But you know, I mean the I just
• 52:55
  Speaker 6: think they have a little slight advantage, not much the
• 52:57
  Speaker 6: way that Donald's playing and stuff. And I think you
• 53:01
  Speaker 6: also can points to the offensive line for the Rams
• 53:03
  Speaker 6: are a little more experienced, been there longer so, but listen,
• 53:09
  Speaker 6: it's a pick them game. In my opinion, it really.
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: Is Seahawk defense against Stafford in that offense. What we've
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: seen with that team, especially upfront, has been really impressive
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: so far, certainly was last week. This is a different
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: beast and a different animal. What must that defense do?
• 53:29
  Speaker 6: Well, they got it well. We just talked about Stafford
• 53:32
  Speaker 6: handling the pressure, but they got to continue with the pressure.
• 53:35
  Speaker 6: They have just got to make him as uncomfortable as
• 53:38
  Speaker 6: he can be in the pocket, and that's not an
• 53:40
  Speaker 6: easy chore because he really handles it well. But the
• 53:43
  Speaker 6: way they got after the quarterback last week, I mean,
• 53:47
  Speaker 6: and the push that they got inside there was not
• 53:50
  Speaker 6: a lot of room to step up. Be said that
• 53:54
  Speaker 6: he just couldn't. There's no room there. And so if
• 53:56
  Speaker 6: they can do that, I mean not if they can,
• 54:00
  Speaker 6: I think they have to do that. That's how they
• 54:02
  Speaker 6: have to play it.
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: That pressure came a lot of times from the middle, right,
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's the impossible thing for a quarterback, right.
• 54:09
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, you know Leonard Williams, he's having a
• 54:13
  Speaker 6: great year, and the pressure did come up the middle.
• 54:16
  Speaker 6: You know the edge pass. Well. The one thing about
• 54:19
  Speaker 6: both Stafford and the quarterback they played last week, they're
• 54:22
  Speaker 6: not running threats, so you kind of know where the
• 54:26
  Speaker 6: throwing point is going to be, and that, in some
• 54:29
  Speaker 6: respects is an advantage to the defense. You don't have
• 54:32
  Speaker 6: to worry too much about them scrambling out of trouble.
• 54:35
  Speaker 6: You can just take off and go keep them in
• 54:38
  Speaker 6: the pocket, make him throw from there. But then you
• 54:40
  Speaker 6: get that push up the middle, and then it can
• 54:42
  Speaker 6: becomes very hard. You know the New York Giants and
• 54:45
  Speaker 6: years ago when we play them, when Joe Montana was there,
• 54:48
  Speaker 6: that's what The push right up the middle gave us
• 54:51
  Speaker 6: more problems, in my opinion than Lawrence Taylor and those
• 54:54
  Speaker 6: guys on the outside, you know, because he felt squeezed
• 54:58
  Speaker 6: and they kept him in the pocket. Pocket guy.
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: Anyway, they have a great pass rush, they have a
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: great defensive front. Does do the rams, Sam Donald, And
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: I asked you about this. I'd love to get your thought.
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: Like watching it was the first series, it was probably
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: what two or three plays before the touchdown pass to
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: Jackson Smith and Jigba, and Donald did like a bootleg
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: and he rolled out to his left Mike if you
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: remember that, and then he threw back from his left,
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: rolling to his left, threw back to his right and
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: hit JSN. Great route and great read, I think by
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: JSN as you articulated, But like most quarterbacks can't make
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: that throw. Is that kind of one of those little
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: things that just a little thing that separates Donald and
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: probably gives Kubiak a little bit more flexibility?
• 55:43
  Speaker 6: You know. I'm glad you mentioned that because I've noticed
• 55:45
  Speaker 6: that as well so far this season that oftentimes and
• 55:50
  Speaker 6: I would do this. You know, if your quarterback's going
• 55:53
  Speaker 6: to be moving, he's going to be moving to his
• 55:56
  Speaker 6: right if he's right handed, because it is a little
• 55:59
  Speaker 6: more difficult going to your left and then throwing you know,
• 56:03
  Speaker 6: back to the right or so on, whatever he has
• 56:05
  Speaker 6: to do, but he has shown the ability to do that.
• 56:08
  Speaker 6: They do boot legs, they do all sorts of stuff
• 56:11
  Speaker 6: where he's coming out fast to the left side and
• 56:13
  Speaker 6: then throwing. And he's obviously shown that ability and practice
• 56:17
  Speaker 6: and he does it. He does it pretty consistently. So
• 56:22
  Speaker 6: that's a huge plus if a quarterback can do that,
• 56:25
  Speaker 6: and he he has shown he can do that.
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I just I've been so impressed with Darnold. They
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: still got to run the ball, Mike, They just still
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: have to run the ball. I mean, I don't know.
• 56:34
  Speaker 6: I mean sound like the line coach at Whitworth. You know.
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: That Big Jake Rogers play in the NFL, and Jake
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: would say the same thing he tell you tell a
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: young left tackle, get, we've got to run the ball better, buddy,
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: to run the ball better. Actually what Worth does run
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: Shout out to Louis Suagotto. They just won the conference
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: title again. But hey, I just like we've talked about
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: it a million times. I don't think it's going to change.
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: It just feels like we're still going to rotate, right,
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: They're still going to go sharbon Ay Walker Walker sharbon Ay, right,
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: it just does. It feels like that's just not going
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: to change.
• 57:05
  Speaker 6: You know, I thought it was going to change, and
• 57:07
  Speaker 6: I thought Walker would get the majority of the snaps.
• 57:10
  Speaker 6: In fact, I was kind of pushing for that because
• 57:14
  Speaker 6: he's a very talented back. But sharbon Ay last week,
• 57:18
  Speaker 6: oh my goodness, he he that one drive. They just
• 57:21
  Speaker 6: kept handling the ball. The other team knew they were
• 57:23
  Speaker 6: going to run the ball and no one cared bang
• 57:26
  Speaker 6: And then what he did on the touchdown was very
• 57:29
  Speaker 6: very impressed. He's really good too. So you know, listen,
• 57:33
  Speaker 6: I'm not too proud to say I problem. Maybe I
• 57:36
  Speaker 6: was wrong and giving him a different type of split.
• 57:40
  Speaker 6: They know better than I do, and that's how they're
• 57:42
  Speaker 6: handling it. But I was a little surprised. But after
• 57:45
  Speaker 6: last week, Sharboney has to play.
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: Well, and you know what, the Rams kind of do
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: the same thing with Kyra and Williams as her lead back.
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: But we see a lot more Blake Korum, the second
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: year back from Michigan this year than we did the
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: year before. Final thing. They'll go with Ula Ula at
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: Timmi at center this week. He played a good chunk
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: of the game the other day He's played some good
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: football for Seattle. I'm not so sure he wouldn't have
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: won the job in training camp if he didn't get
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: hurt his back, you know, like I'm not, I'm not
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: quite sure if that would have happened. Sundell's been solid
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: for them. I wonder if, quietly, and I know we
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: want to compete in it's the NFL and all those things.
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: I'm wondering quietly if if Olu is going to go
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: in there and maybe just give them a little bit
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: more than than Sundell gave him.
• 58:27
  Speaker 6: You know what, I was thinking of the same thing,
• 58:28
  Speaker 6: because you're right in in preseason in my conversations, I
• 58:33
  Speaker 6: was pretty sure that he prohops was last name Timmy,
• 58:44
  Speaker 6: that he was going to be the guy. You know,
• 58:46
  Speaker 6: he he They were looking at that, and then he
• 58:47
  Speaker 6: got hurt and you got to give credit to the
• 58:51
  Speaker 6: the next center that came in and he has done
• 58:53
  Speaker 6: a good job. But if if he's over his injury
• 58:57
  Speaker 6: and he can play like he was playing earlier prior
• 59:01
  Speaker 6: to making the choice who was going to be the center,
• 59:04
  Speaker 6: then I think they're fine. You know, they just have
• 59:06
  Speaker 6: to make sure they get the snap right. You know,
• 59:08
  Speaker 6: his first snap in the game. They fumbled the snap.
• 59:11
  Speaker 6: And I've been there where you get a new center
• 59:13
  Speaker 6: come in and you haven't been taking and so it's
• 59:17
  Speaker 6: a snap from center. What's the big deal? But there
• 59:21
  Speaker 6: is a teaching, there is a progress there to getting
• 59:23
  Speaker 6: comfortable with that, and they've fumbled, and but I think
• 59:27
  Speaker 6: from that they learned and it shouldn't happen again.
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you this, Mike. I'll tell you this.
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: Like you said, it's we're all kind of looking forward
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: to this game. It's just one of those regular season
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: games that you settle in at one o'clock on Fox
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: thirteen on Sunday afternoon and sit back and we'll see
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: what happens and see if McVeigh continues his worderline dominance
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: against Seattle, or if Mike McDonald's able to flip the
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: script and switch things up on him, if Sam Darneld
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: makes a difference compared to Gino, and and then you
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: know what, you'll talk about it tomorrow with Softy and
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: then Monday morning Quarterback with Chuck and Bucky and Hugh
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: will come up on Monday, and you'll have a whole
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: lot to talk about on Monday, Mike and I'll look
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: forward to all those.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 6: Well, thanks, and you know what, it's going to be
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 6: a great game. It really is, and I like to
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 6: see good football. I think the Rams coming in, you know,
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 6: the last couple of games, I wasn't very impressed with
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 6: the opponent, to be honest with you, No, but this
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 6: isn't going to be a different game.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think for both teams. Even San Francisco is
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: banged up as they were, they didn't give much much
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: for them to fight for last week with the Rams either,
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: So upgrading competition all the way around. Mike, great stuff
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: as always, we appreciate it. We'll talk to you soon.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 6: Thanks, Bud.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: There you go. That's Mike O. Longrin joining us here
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: on the Beacon Plumbing Hotline. Great stuff from coach Holgren
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: as always. Again, he'll be tomorrow on with Softy as
• 1:00:41
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you right now, there was some old
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  Speaker 10: I mean, I don't know everybody who works at U
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  Speaker 4: Because they are needed, They're desperately needed. So I mean,
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  Speaker 10: fifty million dollars that Brian Kelly is getting from LSU
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  Speaker 10: is going to come out of a kiddy that otherwise
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  Speaker 4: That's nonsense.
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  Speaker 10: Somebody's stepping up and they're saying, I will pay the
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  Speaker 1: Now what happened in Penn State, they had to stay.
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  Speaker 10: Is the problem with that is that there's only so
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  Speaker 7: Right.
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  Speaker 1: What I'm saying is this, you were playing one man
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  Speaker 4: Yes, that's the big issue. I'll tell him you said that,
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