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Rundown on Detroit Lions offense | Jags Drive Time: Wednesday, November 30 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: Welcome to James Drive Time with John Osian person and
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Speaker 1: Bryan sex Day Sexting Gangs Drive Time and starts right now.
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Speaker 1: Good morning, and welcome time for Jacks Drive Time from
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Speaker 1: t I A. Bank Field on a Wednesday morning, heading
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Speaker 1: to week thirteen. Bryan Sexton your new host on this
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Speaker 1: program along with John Osier. Who you all know? Leo?
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Speaker 1: How are you this morning? Great? Are you now? You're
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Speaker 1: at Yeah, You're a lot further away these days, right.
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Speaker 1: I figured that might be it because something I wrote
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Speaker 1: for a quick thoughts to promote what's coming up later
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Speaker 1: today or Thursday Quick thoughts Thursday, let's say as something
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Speaker 1: to look forward to tomorrow. Um quietly, Sunday is a
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Speaker 1: interesting game, big game in a sense for the two
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Speaker 1: teams least. There are some big games around the NFL
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Speaker 1: this weekend of Miami's at San Francisco, Kansas City is
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Speaker 1: at UH Cincinnati. There are a couple of others. I
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Speaker 1: think the Commanders and the Eagles play, and that's or
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Speaker 1: the Giants play. That's a big one, and no one's
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Speaker 1: gonna pay attention to four and seven verses four and
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Speaker 1: seven Jacksonville versus Detroit, two teams that for the last
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Speaker 1: decade have not been very good. But what you've got
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Speaker 1: is two rising teams that the Lions, after starting one
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Speaker 1: in six, have won three of their last four, and
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars, coming up a big win, have one two
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Speaker 1: of their last three. I don't want to say big
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Speaker 1: because that makes it sound like it's got playoff implications,
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Speaker 1: although in a sense both teams stay on the fringes
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Speaker 1: of the playoff hunt with a wind, so there are
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Speaker 1: playoff considerations. I would call it a graphic game, meaning
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Speaker 1: whoever wins it probably gets on the graphic, meaning the
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Speaker 1: graphic that lists the teams that are still in the hunt. Five.
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Speaker 1: It gets you to five and seven, it gets I
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Speaker 1: mean for the Jaguars, certainly you do the math. It
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Speaker 1: keeps them to where or if the Titans slip, yeah,
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Speaker 1: then all of a sudden you're back to where you know.
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Speaker 1: You win twice. You start talking Joe a fortunateot as
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Speaker 1: language with magic numbers in baseball, you know, all of
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Speaker 1: a sudden, your magic number starts to make sense. Look,
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Speaker 1: we're a long way from that, but it does keep
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Speaker 1: both teams in the conversation, and it's certainly whoever wins
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Speaker 1: it feels very good about. Hey, we're five and seven,
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Speaker 1: and you know one thing you think about the jag
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Speaker 1: Wars is the two or three they left on the
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Speaker 1: table boy. But you can't do that. Well we talked
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Speaker 1: to do that. Yeah, but we're at that point of
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Speaker 1: the year where for the first time in a couple
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Speaker 1: of years, we're talking about scenarios. Right. If you went
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Speaker 1: on Sunday and the Eagles beat the Titans, then your
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Speaker 1: two games out of the Titans and you play them twice,
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Speaker 1: you control your destiny, which we hope this team would
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Speaker 1: at least be in the conversation. Well, that's a real thing.
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Speaker 1: If that happens, you do control your destiny. Now that
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Speaker 1: destiny would mean beating for playoff team Tams down the stretch.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I mean it Titans twice, the Jet Cowboys,
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Speaker 1: and the Jet and the Cowboys. So it's it's a
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Speaker 1: tough destiny, but you still control it. With the offense
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Speaker 1: playing the way it's playing, it gives you some hope.
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Speaker 1: All right, let's get into big things folks as we
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Speaker 1: kick off this show, and we'll start with an excellent example.
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Speaker 1: You know, the Ravens have a distinct personality and a
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Speaker 1: distinct culture and I think all of us know that
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Speaker 1: that's winning. It's what they do. And Doug Peterson talked
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Speaker 1: about winning against a team that likes to win, that
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Speaker 1: knows how to win, and what it means for his program.
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Speaker 1: It's one of the things we talked to our team
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Speaker 1: a little bit about this past week too, is you know,
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Speaker 1: the culture that coach Harbaugh has established there, you know,
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Speaker 1: for so many years, and how they've built that team
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Speaker 1: and and there's a true identity, you know with that team,
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Speaker 1: and and uh, they know exactly who they are. And um,
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Speaker 1: you know, we're we're trying to get all that established
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Speaker 1: here right in and learn and you know this is
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Speaker 1: that's a well well coached team and discipline group. You know,
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Speaker 1: that's the type of game that you know, chances are
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Speaker 1: they pulled that game out, you know, and win that game. So, um,
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Speaker 1: just to credit to our guys, you know, hanging in there,
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Speaker 1: sixty minute football game, batting to the end. Um. But
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Speaker 1: I I'll say this that it's you know, looking at
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Speaker 1: Baltimore and again, what coach Harbas established there is kind
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Speaker 1: of a model I think to to what you know,
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Speaker 1: from a culture standpoint, what we're trying to get done here. ALRD.
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Speaker 1: A question about the running game this week that will
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Speaker 1: hover over this franchise is will Travis e t n
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Speaker 1: be able to go? Now? He's telling people he'll be
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Speaker 1: able to play, and the coach seems to think that
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Speaker 1: it is not a serious issue and that he should
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Speaker 1: be available this week. But with a foot, who knows,
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Speaker 1: We probably won't until sometime before kickoff on Sunday, which
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Speaker 1: brings us back to who's carrying the ball? James are
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Speaker 1: pardon me? Jamichael Hasty showed last week that he can
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Speaker 1: be a part of the solution, and then the Jaguars
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Speaker 1: claimed Darrell Henderson off of waivers from the Rams last week.
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Speaker 1: Might he be a guy who we see on Sunday
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Speaker 1: in Detroit getting caught up? You know, we spend these
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Speaker 1: next couple of days, you know, meeting with him and
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Speaker 1: getting him going. So, um, I think it's possible that uh,
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Speaker 1: you know, obviously working in practice, but you know, it
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Speaker 1: could be a player that we might need, you know,
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Speaker 1: for the game and finally for big things. It's the
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Speaker 1: playoffs and we just touched on that. But we've seen
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Speaker 1: it here in Jacksonville before in two thousand seventeen. We
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Speaker 1: saw it all the way back in nineties were every
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Speaker 1: game has a playoff field to it, and that's certainly
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Speaker 1: the case on Sunday in Detroit. If the Jaguars win
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Speaker 1: there in the middle of it, and if they fall out,
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Speaker 1: it becomes very distant for them to start hoping about
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Speaker 1: playing well into January. The head coach knows what's in
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Speaker 1: front of his team and he isn't walking away from it,
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Speaker 1: though he's not entirely focused on it. Everybody in our
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Speaker 1: division is chasing Tennessee. You know, it's a good football team.
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Speaker 1: Coach Fable hasn't played well. Cincinnati had a good game
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Speaker 1: plan yesterday beat him. But we know what's ahead of us.
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Speaker 1: We've got some really good teams, you know, on our
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Speaker 1: schedule ahead of us that are all playoff caliber teams
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Speaker 1: that you know, in order for us to be there
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Speaker 1: at the end, we've you know, we've just got to
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Speaker 1: continue to prepare, you know, the way we've done that.
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Speaker 1: And this is the next one, you know, Detroit this week,
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Speaker 1: and um, we'll worry about Tennessee you know next week
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Speaker 1: and move on from there. But it's it's all part
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Speaker 1: of that part of that plan. All right, so let's
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Speaker 1: go back up to the top and go with big
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Speaker 1: thing one here in the Baltimore Ravens, just to put
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Speaker 1: it into perspective before we move on, because I'm not
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Speaker 1: sure John if the average fan totally grasps the Ravens
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Speaker 1: because they haven't been like the Patriots or the Chiefs necessarily,
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Speaker 1: but they have a sustained period of excellence under John Harball,
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Speaker 1: and it's meaningful to get a win over a team
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Speaker 1: like that that knows how important games in November are. Well.
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Speaker 1: I actually asked that question because I was thinking about
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Speaker 1: the one the Doug answered, because I was thinking about
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Speaker 1: in that perspective on Sunday night, you're talking about a franchise.
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Speaker 1: I think that. I think I've got the stat right.
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Speaker 1: They've made nine postseason appearances with the Super Bowl. Uh.
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Speaker 1: They've only had two losing seasons under this guy, and
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Speaker 1: it's it's it's fifteen years. Uh. I think people forget
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Speaker 1: that that his tenure is that long. He's behind Tomlin
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Speaker 1: and I believe he's behind Belichick. I think the only
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Speaker 1: two that last him and then Reid has been in
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Speaker 1: the league forever, but he was with the Philly I
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Speaker 1: mean with Philadelphia and then not the Chiefs. So this
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Speaker 1: is an established franchise that wins these games late. Um.
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Speaker 1: I think if that game for the Jags, that happened
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Speaker 1: against most teams, it would have been euphoria, same reaction.
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Speaker 1: But I think to Doug Peterson, who really understands the league,
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Speaker 1: I think that did matter to beat the Ravens in
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Speaker 1: in late November when the Ravens are playing something and
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Speaker 1: the Ravens are hot. I mean, this was a team
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Speaker 1: that won four straight games. Um. It's uh, some games
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Speaker 1: you pull back from later and you say, well, that
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Speaker 1: team wasn't doing this or they weren't doing that. The
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Speaker 1: Ravens wanted that, they needed it. When they lost it,
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Speaker 1: it moved them into a tie for first place. I
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Speaker 1: don't call it a playoff game for the Ravens, but
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Speaker 1: they approached late season games. Uh. This was not a
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Speaker 1: team out for the playoffs that yo or out of
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Speaker 1: the playoffs. The cars weren't running in the parking lot.
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Speaker 1: They wanted this and the Jaguars took it from them. Um.
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Speaker 1: I think you can go back a long time since
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars wanted the Samber game like that. I'm not
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Speaker 1: even sure they won one in in seventeen. Now they
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Speaker 1: won playoff games. I spent a long time since they
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Speaker 1: took one from a team like that late in the season. Well,
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Speaker 1: the last one that comes to mind is that Seattle
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Speaker 1: team in seven team when they were out here, they
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Speaker 1: were they wanted here at home. Yeah, but they that
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Speaker 1: Seattle team was in a dip here. I agree that
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Speaker 1: was not a great Seattle team. This is a pretty
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Speaker 1: good Ravens team. Okay, Well it's been uh years. I
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Speaker 1: thought it was close because it was a team with
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Speaker 1: the culture, right, what Pete Carroll had built there. Russell
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Speaker 1: Wilson was still the quarterback, they were still running the ball. Well, um,
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Speaker 1: but that's it's been five years since they've got one
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Speaker 1: of the culture parts, certainly certainly. Well, here's the point
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Speaker 1: I want to make. You mentioned two losing seasons, right,
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Speaker 1: one was his first season when they went five and eleven.
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Speaker 1: That's totally understandable. The second losing season was last year
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Speaker 1: they were eight and nine. Right, we talked about a
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Speaker 1: lot of double digit loss seasons for this franchise. That
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Speaker 1: one doesn't have them. Part of that's talent. The other
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Speaker 1: part is the culture. And Doug talked a lot about
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Speaker 1: trying to recreate that here quickly before we go to break.
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Speaker 1: Big thing too, was about the running game, your sense
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Speaker 1: of Travis e t NS availability on Sunday, And obviously
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Speaker 1: it's something we probably won't know until Sunday morning. And
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Speaker 1: if a guy like Henderson who's been on a good
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Speaker 1: team like the Rams, can step in and provide anything
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Speaker 1: two weeks in, you know, my senses he'll play. Doug
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Speaker 1: said he was not in a boot Monday. I don't
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Speaker 1: believe he was in a boot leaving the stadium on Sunday. Uh.
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Speaker 1: Doug Usually when he talks about this is pretty transparent,
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Speaker 1: And when Doug talked about this on Monday, his emphasis
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Speaker 1: was they really didn't want to put him back in
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Speaker 1: because they wanted to make sure the kid knew that
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Speaker 1: he was okay, you know, and I wanted to make
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Speaker 1: sure he was comfortable with because he went through a
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Speaker 1: major injury last year. I think if he hadn't been
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Speaker 1: through that last year, my sense he's is he probably
10:32
Speaker 1: would have played. But that was a career threatening, big deal,
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Speaker 1: so I think they wanted to handle him correctly. I
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Speaker 1: also think they were in a situation where they knew
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Speaker 1: they had to throw coming back anyway. I don't you know?
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Speaker 1: You know? So uh I was a E t N
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Speaker 1: wasn't needed, But it wasn't like they couldn't run their
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Speaker 1: game plan without him in that situation. So my senses
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Speaker 1: he'll play. Won't it be interesting now that Trevor Lawrence
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Speaker 1: has this confidence that we can all see sort of
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Speaker 1: oozing out of when when they get that element back
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Speaker 1: without eventsively, they're starting to put things together. So here
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Speaker 1: the numbers. When Travis E. T N has a hundred yards,
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Speaker 1: which he did against the Giants, the Broncos and the Raiders,
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars averaged a hundred sixty seven per game. When
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Speaker 1: he hasn't been on the field, hasn't had a hundred
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Speaker 1: yard game, it's only one six team. So his production
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Speaker 1: is more when he has a big day. So clearly
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Speaker 1: they need him and John. They're coming off back to
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Speaker 1: back games where they've only had thirty eight rushing yards
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Speaker 1: last week against the Ravens and only seventy five two
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Speaker 1: weeks ago against the Kansas. To see how that balances out,
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Speaker 1: because you can see you can clearly see teams looked
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Speaker 1: at it. They said, this team is running the ball
11:39
Speaker 1: they designed things to stop it. Trevor Lawrence has taken
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Speaker 1: advantage of that. So now how that starts balancing out
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Speaker 1: going forward? Now the running games should be able to
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Speaker 1: benefit from what Trevor is doing. All right, we'll find out.
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Speaker 1: It's a story we will watch all week long and
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Speaker 1: of course update you on tomorrow on Drive Time when
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12:57
Speaker 1: How you guys doing good? Thanks for joining us this
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Speaker 1: morn Uh we're talking about a game on Sunday. That again,
13:04
Speaker 1: when you look at the schedule this weekend, there are
13:06
Speaker 1: some quote big games Kansas City, Cincinnati, Miami, San Francisco,
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Speaker 1: even the Giants and the Commanders, But this one to
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Speaker 1: us has that sort of big game field because you've
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Speaker 1: got two very similar surging teams. Do you have the
13:19
Speaker 1: same sense? Yeah, you know, I look at these teams
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Speaker 1: and it's funny standing because I think the exact same thing.
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's you know, two young coaching staffs, right,
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Speaker 1: are new coaching staffs that I should say Peterson has
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Speaker 1: been around, but you know, trying to build a culture, right.
13:34
Speaker 1: I mean you look at Jacksonville and and some of
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Speaker 1: the losses they've had six, um, you know, losses by
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Speaker 1: one score. You look at the Lions, five losses by
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Speaker 1: one score, um, similar records. You look at the rankings
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Speaker 1: and I think they're one ranking apart in total offense,
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Speaker 1: in rushing offense, and passing offense. So I mean there's
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Speaker 1: just so many similarities. You know, lots of young talent
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Speaker 1: that's you know, starting to bud and make plays. Um,
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Speaker 1: you know for for teams, and so it really is uhum,
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Speaker 1: two teams that are that are very similar that are
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Speaker 1: going to meet up in ford Field on Sunday. Tim,
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Speaker 1: what's the We talked earlier this week, but I guess
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Speaker 1: I still don't have a feel for it. The Lions
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Speaker 1: are really good offensively, but I don't know much about him.
14:17
Speaker 1: What's their identity? Why are they good offensively? Because I
14:20
Speaker 1: think they're one of the more underrated offensive teams in
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Speaker 1: the Lake. Yeah, it really, yeah, really, it starts up
14:25
Speaker 1: front for them. I mean you look at Taylor Decker's
14:28
Speaker 1: annually one of the top ten left tackles in football.
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Speaker 1: Pennys who who is the first round drafted last year,
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Speaker 1: is arguably already the best right tackling football. Jonah Jackson
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Speaker 1: their left guard. He was a Pro Bowler last year.
14:39
Speaker 1: Frank rag Now their center, he was a Pro Bowl
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Speaker 1: two years ago. And so I mean there's four Pro
14:45
Speaker 1: Bowl caliber players up front. And so you look at
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Speaker 1: this Detroit Lions team and it starts up front for
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Speaker 1: those guys, and they love to run the football. Um,
14:53
Speaker 1: we're seeing numbers here in Detroit that we haven't seen
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Speaker 1: since Barry Sanders was totally roc I mean, Jamal Williams
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Speaker 1: at thirteen hushdown's his entire career. He's got thirteen this
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Speaker 1: year for Detroit, and DeAndre Swift is kind of a
15:05
Speaker 1: lightning to his thunder. So it really starts up front
15:09
Speaker 1: for Detroit and that run game. Um, and and then
15:12
Speaker 1: you know, if you protect shared. Um, Look, he's a
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Speaker 1: former number one pick. He's had success in this league.
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Speaker 1: He's won a lot of football games. And look, if
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Speaker 1: you can run the football, protect him. Now play action. Um,
15:24
Speaker 1: you know it comes into play. They've got weapons, like
15:26
Speaker 1: I'm on outside. Brown is quickly becoming one of the
15:28
Speaker 1: best wide receivers in the game. You guys know g J.
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Speaker 1: Chart very well. Um. You know he's coming back from
15:34
Speaker 1: from that foot injury. And it really is the first
15:36
Speaker 1: time since you know, weeks three. Um, last week was
15:40
Speaker 1: the first time they had the top three receivers. And
15:41
Speaker 1: we haven't he seen Jamison Williams. Yeah, he's coming down
15:44
Speaker 1: the pipeline here in the next couple of weeks. So
15:46
Speaker 1: look at it all starts up front for Detroit. But look,
15:48
Speaker 1: they can run the football, they can control the clock,
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Speaker 1: and they got weapons on the outside. When they established
15:53
Speaker 1: that run to to hit teeps deep in the past
15:55
Speaker 1: game they're they're really balanced, and there was a tone nationally.
15:58
Speaker 1: And you know, people I don't think about it sometimes
16:01
Speaker 1: when they assume things. But when Jared Goff got traded
16:04
Speaker 1: from the Rams of the lines, I think people would
16:05
Speaker 1: just sort of assuming, well, that's sort of it. I
16:08
Speaker 1: mean it was sort of forgot about him a little bit.
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Speaker 1: But you tell me, he's playing pretty well. And I
16:15
Speaker 1: don't know, this is a guy that fans around the
16:17
Speaker 1: league or you know something fans in Jackson need to
16:19
Speaker 1: forget about, right, No, I mean you you got to remember.
16:22
Speaker 1: I mean he you know, he's won a lot of
16:24
Speaker 1: big games in this league because I mean he was
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Speaker 1: a former number one pick. He was a Pro bowler
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Speaker 1: for the Rams for two straight years. Um, and he
16:31
Speaker 1: can throw the football around. Now. Is he one of
16:34
Speaker 1: those guys that if something breaks down like a Josh
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Speaker 1: Allen or Patrick Mahomes can kind of make a play
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Speaker 1: on his own and and you know, create something out
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Speaker 1: of nothing that's not really Jared game. Um, And so
16:45
Speaker 1: you know, the things have to work around Jared. You know,
16:48
Speaker 1: you've got to protect Jared. You've got to be on
16:49
Speaker 1: time with Jared if you're in the right spot. You know,
16:52
Speaker 1: Jared knows you know offense football, and he'll find you.
16:56
Speaker 1: It's just, you know, the hot thing in the league
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Speaker 1: right now is some of those guys that can you know,
17:00
Speaker 1: run around the dual threats, those kind of things, and
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Speaker 1: so you know, the true pocket passer um, you know
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Speaker 1: who Jared golf is is, you know, not seeing in
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Speaker 1: kind of the light of some of the premier players
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Speaker 1: at that position of this league anymore. His numbers are
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Speaker 1: almost the same as Trevor Lawrences in terms of completion percentage.
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Speaker 1: He's got seventeen touchdowns and seven interceptions. Trevors got sixteen
17:22
Speaker 1: and six. The passer rating is right there. For Jaguars
17:27
Speaker 1: fans who know or maybe don't know that Mark Brunell
17:29
Speaker 1: is the quarterbacks coach there in Detroit, how much do
17:32
Speaker 1: you hear from from the quarterback or from the quarterbacks
17:35
Speaker 1: coach about their relationship and what sort of impact you know,
17:39
Speaker 1: the best quarterback in Jaguars history to date right has
17:43
Speaker 1: had on him. Yeah, Mark's really been a calming influence
17:46
Speaker 1: for for Jared. You know, I think Ben Johnson the
17:49
Speaker 1: offensive quarter here, and Mark did a great job with
17:52
Speaker 1: Jared in terms of you know, Ben comes in and
17:55
Speaker 1: and obviously he's got some concepts that that you know,
17:57
Speaker 1: he wants to um instill in a new offense. But
18:00
Speaker 1: he's that now with Jared. And they went through this
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Speaker 1: thing and they looked at what Jared like to do
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Speaker 1: when he was with the Rams. Um, you know, things
18:07
Speaker 1: he likes, things he maybe doesn't like. And they built
18:09
Speaker 1: this offense really around jared strengths and and Mark was
18:12
Speaker 1: a big part of that too, And um, you know,
18:14
Speaker 1: there's something to be said when you have a coach
18:17
Speaker 1: was love the player, right, And there's a lot of
18:19
Speaker 1: those on this Detroit Lions staff and starts to win
18:21
Speaker 1: head coach Dan Campbell. But the majority of this staff,
18:24
Speaker 1: i'd say probably you know, played in the NFL, and
18:28
Speaker 1: so you know they're not going to ask a player
18:30
Speaker 1: to do something one they haven't already done themselves or
18:33
Speaker 1: been asked to do. And there's a respect factor there.
18:35
Speaker 1: You know, this guy was in it. He understands, he
18:38
Speaker 1: knows what I'm going through. And so it's a good
18:40
Speaker 1: relationship with with Mark and Jared. Jared Detroit certainly, and
18:43
Speaker 1: he thought that you could share with us on why
18:45
Speaker 1: the defense is struggled. Um, you know, I watched the
18:48
Speaker 1: game against the Bills like most of America did, and
18:51
Speaker 1: thought that they had great pressure upfront that they looked stout.
18:54
Speaker 1: Has it just been the injuries in the secondary? Why
18:56
Speaker 1: has that side of the ball struggled? Injuries and secondary
19:00
Speaker 1: is part of it. And and they're really young too.
19:02
Speaker 1: I mean you looked at some of their you know,
19:04
Speaker 1: playmakers on defense of recently, Aidan Hutcheson, rookie first round pick,
19:09
Speaker 1: um Forby James, third round pick, Malcolm Rodriguez, fourth round pick, linebacker. Um,
19:14
Speaker 1: you know, guys like that who I think I just
19:17
Speaker 1: kind of had to learn the game a little bit.
19:19
Speaker 1: And I think the biggest thing they struggled with defensively
19:22
Speaker 1: early in the season was just forcing takeaways. Um, those
19:25
Speaker 1: big momentum plays on defense, Um, they weren't generating them.
19:29
Speaker 1: And when you look at their recent three game win streak,
19:32
Speaker 1: I mean they were number one in the NFL crate
19:34
Speaker 1: seven takeaways in three games. Um, Aidan Hutchinson had three,
19:38
Speaker 1: Kirby Joseph had three, And so you know, I think
19:41
Speaker 1: you're starting to see this line's defense play much better
19:43
Speaker 1: because simply these young guys are now, you know, ten
19:46
Speaker 1: eleven games in their career, they're starting to figure it
19:48
Speaker 1: out a little bit. The game's flowing down for them.
19:51
Speaker 1: And and really their biggest playmakers on defense have been
19:53
Speaker 1: their young guys, and I think it just took a
19:55
Speaker 1: little bit of time, um, for them to kind of
19:57
Speaker 1: settle and get comfortable. But now you're seeing a terrific
20:00
Speaker 1: rookie classes is especially defensively to the lines the last
20:03
Speaker 1: month or so. So you know, the guys on the
20:04
Speaker 1: broadcast sounding you're gonna focus on Aidan Hutchinson and Trayvon
20:07
Speaker 1: Walker for the Jaguars, Walker has made an impact. He
20:11
Speaker 1: doesn't have the bang flash numbers that folks associate with
20:15
Speaker 1: the number one overall pick, yet he's obviously got some
20:17
Speaker 1: learning to do. In terms of pass rush. The numbers
20:19
Speaker 1: seem to be there for Hutchinson, five and a half sacks,
20:22
Speaker 1: a couple of interceptions. Uh, just an overall A thumbnail
20:26
Speaker 1: on his season so far to him, Yeah, he's been good. Um, Look,
20:29
Speaker 1: you know what, you guys know just as much as
20:31
Speaker 1: I do. It's tough for rookie pass rushers, right, it
20:34
Speaker 1: was so much easier in college. You faced an NFL
20:36
Speaker 1: palaber tackle in college to three weeks if you're at
20:40
Speaker 1: in the SEC, maybe four or five. But you had
20:42
Speaker 1: your cupcake weeks, right, you had your weeks where you knew, Okay,
20:46
Speaker 1: here's my three set game. And that's just not the
20:48
Speaker 1: case of the NFL. I mean, you're you're you're getting
20:51
Speaker 1: a guy every week. Um, that's one of the best
20:53
Speaker 1: in the business. And so I think it just took
20:56
Speaker 1: Aiden a little bit of time to kind of figure
20:58
Speaker 1: that out. Um, you can't both rush everybody in this
21:01
Speaker 1: league like he did at Michigan, and so you know,
21:04
Speaker 1: as his kind of toolbox of pass rush moves has
21:07
Speaker 1: advanced a little bit, we've seen him have a lot
21:09
Speaker 1: of impact. Um. Look, he's a guy that never quits
21:12
Speaker 1: on a play. Um. He's a much better athlete than
21:15
Speaker 1: the Lions even thought he was in pre draft process. Um,
21:19
Speaker 1: they were really surprised by that. His ability to play
21:21
Speaker 1: the inside and outside. Um. And he's just relentless. I mean,
21:25
Speaker 1: he's only the second player in NFL history and have
21:28
Speaker 1: at least five sacks and two interceptions in the first
21:30
Speaker 1: ten games. And so you'd just love to see the production, right,
21:34
Speaker 1: I mean, Um, the sacks affecting the quarterback. You know,
21:37
Speaker 1: he's been really really good. Um, and I think it's
21:40
Speaker 1: a great sign for the figure that when it's all
21:42
Speaker 1: said and done, here's the guy who'll probably be right
21:44
Speaker 1: around ten sacks and um the interceptions and real impact
21:48
Speaker 1: plays as a rookie, and he's only going to get better. Yeah.
21:50
Speaker 1: Another similarity there, because we've seen the same thing with Walker,
21:53
Speaker 1: guy who never quits on the play and impacts the game.
21:55
Speaker 1: But he struggled because his best pass rush move is
21:57
Speaker 1: the bull rush. All right, say, we're looking forward to
21:59
Speaker 1: a big aim on Sunday, big for both these franchises
22:02
Speaker 1: trying to stay in the playoff hunt in their respective conferences.
22:05
Speaker 1: Greatly appreciate you taking the time on a Wednesday morning
22:08
Speaker 1: to join us. Have a great day, Hey, no problem anytime, guys.
22:10
Speaker 1: Safe travel here to Detroit, alright, looking forward to it.
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23:02
Speaker 1: let's go to you first. Well, I'll take a left
23:04
Speaker 1: stage on the left side of the at the desk
23:07
Speaker 1: here I went h Trevor Lawrence or Jared Goff. And
23:14
Speaker 1: the point of this is not necessarily to compare the
23:16
Speaker 1: two quarterbacks, because that's not as some people are gonna do.
23:20
Speaker 1: But I started thinking the last couple of days with Trevor.
23:24
Speaker 1: At some point, when you draft a kid number one
23:26
Speaker 1: overall and you're going through the matches for the game,
23:30
Speaker 1: if the franchise is going to get to where it
23:32
Speaker 1: wants to go, that has to be an edge for
23:35
Speaker 1: your franchise. If you're playing seventeen games, you know that
23:39
Speaker 1: needs to be an edge fourteen or fifteen times. You
23:42
Speaker 1: know my homes when the Chiefs play, people usually say, well,
23:46
Speaker 1: they have the best quarterback in the field, so they're
23:47
Speaker 1: probably gonna win. Um so Jared Goff to me is
23:52
Speaker 1: a good NFL quarterback. I don't think he's an All
23:54
Speaker 1: Pro quarterback. So the question is a month ago, I
24:00
Speaker 1: think you come into this game and if you're really
24:02
Speaker 1: being honest, you're not sure who the better quarterback is,
24:06
Speaker 1: and maybe you're going with Golf. I think Trevor is
24:09
Speaker 1: a lot closer to being the guy that Hey, I'm
24:13
Speaker 1: glad we got that guy as opposed to no, I
24:16
Speaker 1: think it's still close because Goffs and experience veteran and
24:20
Speaker 1: haven't seen that consistently. The point is, it feels like
24:26
Speaker 1: Trevor's really close. If he's not there yet to being
24:29
Speaker 1: the match up edge in a game like this, well
24:31
Speaker 1: it's hard not to think that way. Based on the
24:32
Speaker 1: fields he made on that last drive and then even
24:35
Speaker 1: the last three weeks, there's some consistency there, and you know,
24:39
Speaker 1: I think the perception of him and the feeling is
24:42
Speaker 1: much more that he's starting to get into that category
24:48
Speaker 1: where you feel like he's an edge. He's at the
24:51
Speaker 1: top of all the charts in the month of November
24:53
Speaker 1: right um completion, six touchdowns, no interception, passer rating of
24:59
Speaker 1: one team. I mean he's one or two in all
25:02
Speaker 1: of those and that's the most important month of the season.
25:04
Speaker 1: So it's good to see that come around. I'll say
25:06
Speaker 1: this about golf, um, and you heard Tim. He he
25:10
Speaker 1: told you the way that they've approached him. You realize
25:13
Speaker 1: their second to Kansas City with the most games of
25:16
Speaker 1: five or more points scored this year, they have seven.
25:18
Speaker 1: They are tied with five teams for the most games
25:21
Speaker 1: with at least thirty points. They're putting up the yardage.
25:24
Speaker 1: And that's why I didn't want to say that. Uh,
25:26
Speaker 1: I don't know that Trevor has a clear match of
25:28
Speaker 1: advantage in this game because Golf is good. I think
25:31
Speaker 1: he's very underrated. Um just more the point that it
25:36
Speaker 1: feels like Trevor is becoming a team strength, and that
25:41
Speaker 1: had to happen. I think a boy doesn't feel like that.
25:43
Speaker 1: He does. I think a year from now you point
25:45
Speaker 1: and say, yeah, he's a rising all the people forget
25:48
Speaker 1: Golf was the number one pick overall as well, so
25:51
Speaker 1: and the numbers are strikingly go look at him. They
25:53
Speaker 1: are strikingly similar all the way across the board. I'll
25:56
Speaker 1: say this, they're also playing complimentary football up there. I
25:59
Speaker 1: mean Jamal Williams has thirteen touchdowns, seven of them are
26:03
Speaker 1: one yard runs. I mean, they're getting into the red zone,
26:05
Speaker 1: they're converting, they're playing good football, and they've had more
26:08
Speaker 1: success in the red zone than the Jaguars. And I
26:10
Speaker 1: think Jared Goff is probably a big reason why. Yeah,
26:13
Speaker 1: they veteran quarterbacks. That's the tipping point for a lot
26:18
Speaker 1: of veteran quarterbacks. It's hard down there, and your percentage
26:22
Speaker 1: usually goes up as you start to get it more
26:24
Speaker 1: in the red zone. All right, I'll go with a
26:26
Speaker 1: comparison as well, DJ Chark or Christian Kirk, And I
26:31
Speaker 1: think there was a time earlier this spring where people
26:34
Speaker 1: wanted to keep Chart They were holding onto that big
26:37
Speaker 1: season he had in twenty nineteen. They saw the size
26:40
Speaker 1: and the speed John and thought, in this league, you
26:43
Speaker 1: need that alpha guy. And what the Jaguars went and
26:47
Speaker 1: spent their money on instead was a slot receiver, although
26:50
Speaker 1: he's proven to be much more than that. And Christian
26:53
Speaker 1: Kirk is having his best season seven touchdowns, fifty eight catches,
26:58
Speaker 1: over seven hundred yards receiving, and he's clearly been that
27:01
Speaker 1: go to guy for Trevor Lawrence. So happy with the
27:05
Speaker 1: move for Christian Kirk, or is d J Charks something
27:08
Speaker 1: that you still wish you had. I do wish that
27:11
Speaker 1: J were still had d J Charks. I like DJ
27:13
Speaker 1: chark um, So putting that aside, I don't think you
27:19
Speaker 1: can look at what Christian Kirk has done and think, boy,
27:23
Speaker 1: I wish he wasn't here. I mean, if it was
27:28
Speaker 1: Julio Jones and his prime, then you know there's different
27:30
Speaker 1: factors there. But in terms of this and clear they
27:33
Speaker 1: made the right move mainly because I feel like they
27:37
Speaker 1: believed that they needed something that Trevor could really rely on.
27:42
Speaker 1: And I don't mean I don't necessarily mean the injury
27:45
Speaker 1: factor with DJ, but more the style of play Kirk,
27:49
Speaker 1: because he's a guy who gets open across the middle,
27:52
Speaker 1: very consistent in his route running, gets open underneath. H
27:58
Speaker 1: is more of a tight end field. He's not a
28:00
Speaker 1: tight end. But you know what I'm getting at, something
28:03
Speaker 1: that when Trevor's in trouble, he knows he can look
28:05
Speaker 1: to the deep down the field guy that DJ really
28:09
Speaker 1: excels seventeen and twenty two yards downfield. Uh, maybe not
28:14
Speaker 1: something that when the pressures on, that Trevor can look
28:17
Speaker 1: at and go Okay, where is this guy? I also
28:20
Speaker 1: think Christian in retrospect, was a signing. Remember they were
28:25
Speaker 1: trying to build for now to get better around Trevor
28:29
Speaker 1: to help build that, but they also needed to build
28:32
Speaker 1: for two or three years. DJ helped them now. But boy,
28:38
Speaker 1: when they get Ridley in here next year with a
28:41
Speaker 1: quote true one, how well is Christian gonna fit into that?
28:45
Speaker 1: And he's also a guy that you can foresee so
28:48
Speaker 1: often when you sign free agents. You signed him for
28:50
Speaker 1: five year, eighty nine million dollar deal, but you really
28:53
Speaker 1: only know the two year guys. DJ feels like a
28:56
Speaker 1: long I mean not DJ. Christian feels like a long
28:59
Speaker 1: term fit that you can grow with. So I think
29:02
Speaker 1: that helps too well. And the numbers tell you right.
29:06
Speaker 1: The Lions gave DJ a one year deal worth ten
29:08
Speaker 1: million dollars, and the Jaguars gave Christian Kirk a five
29:11
Speaker 1: million dollar deal, sorry, a twenty million dollars you're right,
29:16
Speaker 1: and five year deal that averages twenty million over the
29:19
Speaker 1: life of it if he sees all of it. So
29:20
Speaker 1: long term big money DJ is playing on a one
29:23
Speaker 1: year deal. Yeah, the Jaguars made the right move there,
29:26
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Speaker 1: up this edition of Jags Drive Time. Touched on the
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Speaker 1: big headline of the week. We'll all be following the
30:50
Speaker 1: story of Travis e. T N. We'll probably follow up
30:54
Speaker 1: on the quarterback who's playing at a very high level.
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Speaker 1: What else stands out to you? What might be you'll
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Speaker 1: be writing this week? What might be we've been talking about.
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Speaker 1: Tomorrow we'll be talking to uh Andrew Wingard to the
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Speaker 1: that because this is a guy who has, as you
31:10
Speaker 1: get to know more about him, uh, pretty candid, uh,
31:16
Speaker 1: pretty likable kids. So I'm looking forward to that. And
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Speaker 1: you know, I think what we talked about the top,
31:20
Speaker 1: it is really the theme this week. You're talking about
31:23
Speaker 1: a couple of teams, Uh, the j Wars win this
31:26
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden people start seeing this season
31:30
Speaker 1: and what they've done in sort of a new light.
31:33
Speaker 1: But I think you got to back it up at
31:34
Speaker 1: some point. That would be three out of four victories,
31:36
Speaker 1: I mean three victories in four games, some consistency. So
31:40
Speaker 1: in that sense, I think it's a big game for
31:41
Speaker 1: the Jacks. I'm connecting with Jim Bob Cooter, who is
31:44
Speaker 1: the passing game coordinator. I have not talked to him,
31:46
Speaker 1: so I'm anxious, especially to talk about Za Jones and
31:50
Speaker 1: Christian Kirk. Everyone thinks passing game coordinator, you're talking about
31:54
Speaker 1: the quarterback without a doubt. We will talk about Trevor
31:56
Speaker 1: Lawrence because there's so much there, but getting Evan Ingram involved.
31:59
Speaker 1: I think he's that guy that and maybe even Dan Arnold,
32:02
Speaker 1: who when he was here last year proved to be
32:04
Speaker 1: somewhat of a guy that you could rely on before
32:06
Speaker 1: he got hurt. So there are guys who can step
32:08
Speaker 1: up their game and help take this to another level.
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Speaker 1: We'll find out from Jim Bob today what he thinks.
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Speaker 1: Of course, that will air on Sunday in the Public's
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Speaker 1: Game two here, yeah, tomorrow, three of these a week.
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