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A New Energy Star Is Born: The Quantum Battery Era · The Quark Side - Quantum Physics Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the quark side Quantum Physics podcast, an exploration
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  Speaker 1: of the fundamental structure of reality where quantum laws govern matter, energy,
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  Speaker 1: and information. Here, uncertainty is a feature, not a flaw,
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  Speaker 1: and understanding begins at the smallest scales.
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  Speaker 2: Picture this. You're staring at your smartphone screen, watching that
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  Speaker 2: little battery icon turn red, and then you know it
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  Speaker 2: hits one.
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  Speaker 3: Percent, Oh, the absolute worst feeling.
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  Speaker 2: Right, and then the screen just goes completely black. Or
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  Speaker 2: maybe you're sitting in an electric vehicle at a charging station,
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  Speaker 2: just staring at the digital display on the pump waiting.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, just killing time exactly.
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  Speaker 2: We have all basically organized our daily routines around this
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  Speaker 2: universal quiet frustration of waiting for things to charge.
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  Speaker 3: We really have, I mean, we schedule our entire days
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  Speaker 3: around it because we just accept the fundamental rule of
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  Speaker 3: this technology.
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  Speaker 2: Which is, you know, the bigger the battery you have,
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  Speaker 2: the longer you have to sit there and wait to
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  Speaker 2: fill it up.
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  Speaker 3: Right. It's it is the inescapable tax we pay for
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  Speaker 3: living in a modern mobile society. We inherently understand that
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  Speaker 3: physical capacity requires physical time. Yeah, Like if you have
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  Speaker 3: a larger reservoir to fill, it's just going to demand
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  Speaker 3: a longer commitment from your day.
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  Speaker 2: But what if you could, I don't know, flip the
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  Speaker 2: fundamental rules of physics entirely. What if the bigger your
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  Speaker 2: battery was the faster it charged?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, did anyone grounded in classical thermodynamics? That sounds
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  Speaker 3: entirely backward, It really does. Yeah, it implies a system
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  Speaker 3: that somehow accelerates its own absorption simply by expanding in size.
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  Speaker 2: Well. In March twenty twenty six, a collaboration of scientists
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  Speaker 2: from Australia specifically the CSIRO, the University of Melbourne and
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  Speaker 2: r MIT University. They actually took this out of the
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  Speaker 2: realm of abstract theory.
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  Speaker 3: They really did. It was a massive moment.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: They published this land study in the journal Light Science
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  Speaker 2: and Applications detailing the successful test of the world's first
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  Speaker 2: fully functioning proof of concept quantum battery.
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  Speaker 3: Which is just wild to even say out loud.
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  Speaker 2: Right, we are talking about a physical device that actually
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  Speaker 2: completes a full cycle of charging, storing, and discharging energy,
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  Speaker 2: all while totally defying everything we intuitively expect from energy storage.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, let's unpack this, because to understand how a piece
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  Speaker 3: of technology can charge faster simply by getting bigger. We
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  Speaker 3: first have to understand the microscopic machinery of what these
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  Speaker 3: researchers actually.
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  Speaker 2: Built, absolutely, and how it manages to operate sitting right
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  Speaker 2: there at room temperature, and how it fundamentally alters our
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  Speaker 2: understanding of what a battery even is.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. To really grasp the magnitude of this shift in physics,
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  Speaker 3: we need to look at the lithium ion chemistry that's
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  Speaker 3: powering your life right.
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  Speaker 2: Now, stuff in our phones and cars exactly.
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  Speaker 3: The limitation with traditional chemical batteries is that their internal
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  Speaker 3: architecture scales linearly. Okay, inside a normal battery, every single
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  Speaker 3: storage unit like an individual ion moving from an anode
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  Speaker 3: to a cathode. It operates completely independently. It's doing its
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  Speaker 3: own thing, right, It's an isolated chemical reaction, yep. So
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  Speaker 3: if you want a battery that holds twice as much
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  Speaker 3: energy to drive your car twice as far, you just
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  Speaker 3: need twice as many of those individual units.
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  Speaker 2: And because they're independent, pushing energy into them is a
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  Speaker 2: sequential process. It takes roughly twice as long.
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  Speaker 3: Precisely, I like to think of it like a.
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  Speaker 2: Massive sports stadium in a classical battery. You're trying to
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  Speaker 2: fell a stadium that holds one hundred thousand seats, but
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  Speaker 2: you only have a few turnstiles at the front gate,
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  Speaker 2: and you have to push people through like one by one. Right,
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  Speaker 2: if you build a bigger stadium with two hundred thousand seats,
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  Speaker 2: it's naturally going to take you twice as long to
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  Speaker 2: get everyone inside before the game starts.
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  Speaker 3: That's a great way to look at it. Yeah, what
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  Speaker 3: happens with this new quantum battery is akin to expanding
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  Speaker 3: the stadium. But and this is the crazy part. The
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  Speaker 3: act of expanding it magically merges all the exterior doors together.
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  Speaker 2: Wait, like all of them.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't have turnstiles anymore. You have a system
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  Speaker 3: where the entire crowd can transition into their seats simultaneously.
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  Speaker 3: The physical barriers of sequential entry are just removed.
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  Speaker 2: So the people just appear in their seats.
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  Speaker 3: They do. I mean, in quantum mechanics, this is a
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  Speaker 3: phenomenon known as collective quantum effects. Okay, In the battery
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  Speaker 3: designed by the Australian teams, the energy storing molecules don't
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  Speaker 3: act like individual fans walking through a turnstile because of
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  Speaker 3: the highly specific environment they're placed in. They stop acting
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  Speaker 3: independently altogether. Oh wow, Yeah, they begin to behave as
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  Speaker 3: one single, coherent quantum system.
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  Speaker 2: They merge into a single entity exactly.
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  Speaker 3: And when energy is introduced to this unified system, we
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  Speaker 3: observe an event called super absorption. Super absorption, right, Instead
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  Speaker 3: of millions of separate microscopic chemical reactions happening one after another,
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  Speaker 3: the entire ensemble of molecules absorbs the energy in one unified,
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  Speaker 3: giant quantum transition.
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  Speaker 2: The math behind this scaling is honestly fascinating. Like, if
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  Speaker 2: N represents the number of molecules or storage units in
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  Speaker 2: the battery, the charging time of the system scales as
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  Speaker 2: one over the square root event, which is.
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  Speaker 3: The mathematical proof of that totally counterintuitive behavior.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. So, if N is the number of molecules, making
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  Speaker 2: N bigger, adding more molecules building a physically larger battery
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  Speaker 2: actually makes the resulting charging time smaller.
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  Speaker 3: It shrinks it, right.
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  Speaker 2: Doubling the physical size of the battery inherently slashes the
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  Speaker 2: amount of time it takes to charge it.
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  Speaker 3: What's fascinating here is how this entirely validates long standing
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  Speaker 3: historically stubborn theoretical predictions.
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  Speaker 2: Because physicists have suspected for decades that super absorption was possible, right.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah. The underlying theory traces back to the nineteen
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  Speaker 3: fifties regarding how molecules emit light collectively, which is known
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  Speaker 3: as Dick superradiance.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, super radiance.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and super absorption is essentially that process played in reverse.
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  Speaker 3: But actually engine raring a physical system to demonstrate this
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  Speaker 3: counterintuitive scaling where bigger means faster, has been a massive hurdle.
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  Speaker 3: I can imagine doctor James Quash, the lead researcher from
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  Speaker 3: CSRO on this project. He actually noted how incredibly difficult
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  Speaker 3: it has been to force matter to maintain this collective
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  Speaker 3: behavior long enough to be remotely useful.
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  Speaker 2: Right, Because if these molecules are acting like this, teleporting
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  Speaker 2: crowd absorbing energy in a single unified breath, what kind
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  Speaker 2: of physical architecture forces matter to behave that way? It's
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  Speaker 2: definitely not what you'd expect, yeah, because most people probably
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  Speaker 2: picture a standard doubly battery just with the word quantum
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  Speaker 2: slapped on.
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  Speaker 3: The side, right, But the prototype built in CSIRO's cleanrooms
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  Speaker 3: is incredibly compact, and it shares literally zero architectural DNA
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  Speaker 3: with a traditional battery.
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  Speaker 2: Nothing at all.
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  Speaker 3: Nothing. It's a tiny, highly engineered, layered organic microcavity structure.
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  Speaker 3: They use very specific organic molecules copper filosigning or cup sea,
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  Speaker 3: and sandwich them inside this microscopic cavity.
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  Speaker 2: Here's where it gets really interesting, because the way you
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  Speaker 2: interface with this device fundamentally breaks the mental model of
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  Speaker 2: charging completely. There are no plugs, there are no copper
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  Speaker 2: wires pumping electrons from a wall outlet into a chemical bath.
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  Speaker 2: It charges wirelessly via a laser.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, the laser provides optical energy, and the microcavity is
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  Speaker 3: specifically designed to perfectly funnel that incoming light into the
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  Speaker 3: organic molecules.
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  Speaker 2: See. I have to push back on the physics of
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  Speaker 2: that for a moment.
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  Speaker 3: Go for it.
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  Speaker 2: If we aren't pumping physical electrons through a wire like
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  Speaker 2: we do with every other battery on Earth, what exactly
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  Speaker 2: are we storing here we shoot a laser into a
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  Speaker 2: microscopic box. Are we just bouncing light between two mirrors
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  Speaker 2: and calling it a battery.
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  Speaker 3: That's a really fair question. If you look at it
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  Speaker 3: purely from a structural standpoint, it might seem like a
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  Speaker 3: simple light trap, but we have to factor in something
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  Speaker 3: called a strong coupling regime. Think of the microcavity as
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  Speaker 3: two incredibly precise mirrors facing each other place at microscopic distances.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, two tiny mirrors.
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  Speaker 3: When the laser fires into it, the light doesn't just
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  Speaker 3: hit the organic molecules and stop. It bounces back and
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  Speaker 3: forth between those mirrors thousands of times in a fraction
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  Speaker 3: of a second.
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  Speaker 2: Wow.
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  Speaker 3: The light from the laser and the matter of the
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  Speaker 3: organic molecules are forced into such tight, relentless proximity that
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  Speaker 3: they actually hybridize. They lose their individual identities.
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  Speaker 2: So you aren't storing pure light, and you aren't storing
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  Speaker 2: pure physical energy.
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  Speaker 3: Exactly, You're creating quasi particles called polaritans polaritons, yeah, choleratans,
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  Speaker 3: inherent traits from both the photons, the particles of light
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  Speaker 3: from the laser, and the molecular excitations of the organic material.
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  Speaker 3: By hybridizing light and matter into this new state, the
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  Speaker 3: system creates a shield against decoherence.
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  Speaker 2: Ah. Decoherence, that being the mechanism where delicate quantum states
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  Speaker 2: collapse into normal, boring classical physics.
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  Speaker 3: Exactly. It's the primary enemy of any quantum technology. Ambient
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  Speaker 3: heat and physical vibration, electromagnetic noise, these environmental factors constantly
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  Speaker 3: bump into quantum systems and just knock them out of alignment.
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  Speaker 2: They ruin the quantum effect.
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  Speaker 3: Right, But these polaricins are so strongly coupled that the
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  Speaker 3: energy required to break them apart is larger than the
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  Speaker 3: ambient thermal noise in the room. They maintain their coherence,
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  Speaker 3: which is huge. It is that is what allows this
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  Speaker 3: super absorption, this incredibly fast energy transfer to happen on
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  Speaker 3: a femtosecond time scale.
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  Speaker 2: A femtosecond to put that measurement in perspective for you listening,
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  Speaker 2: a femtosecond is one quadrillionth of a second.
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  Speaker 3: It's unfathomably fast.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it is to one second what one second is
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  Speaker 2: to about thirty one point seven million years. The laser fires,
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  Speaker 2: the polaritans forms, and the energy is absorbed practically instantaneously.
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  Speaker 3: And capturing energy that quickly is a monumental achievement in physics.
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  Speaker 3: But as you I guess, energy is entirely useless if
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  Speaker 3: it escapes at the same speed it enters. Right.
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  Speaker 2: A battery, by definition must hold a charge. Wait, so
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  Speaker 2: if the energy is absorbed in a fema toe second,
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  Speaker 2: does it dissipate just as fast? Because if you charge
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  Speaker 2: a phone practically instantaneously, but it loses that charge a
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  Speaker 2: moment later, you haven't really built a battery. No you haven't,
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  Speaker 2: You've just built a very complicated flash bulb. So how
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  Speaker 2: does the device actually trap the energy?
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  Speaker 3: Well, after that initial ultrafast absorption, the energy doesn't stay
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  Speaker 3: in that highly volatile polariton state. It is rapidly transferred
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  Speaker 3: internally into what is called a mitastable triplet state within
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  Speaker 3: the organic molecules themselves.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, let's break down what a triplet state actually means chemically.
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  Speaker 3: Sure, Normally, electrons inside a molecule pair up with opposite spins.
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  Speaker 3: One spins up, one spins down. This is called a
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  Speaker 3: singlet state, and it is a very relaxed, low energy configuration.
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  Speaker 2: Makes sense.
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  Speaker 3: When the polaritin transfers its massive energy into the molecule,
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  Speaker 3: it forces one of those electrons to flip its spin.
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  Speaker 3: Now you have two electrons spinning in the same direction.
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  Speaker 3: This is the triplet state. Okay, I'm following according to
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  Speaker 3: the strict rules of quantum mechanics. For that molecule to
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  Speaker 3: release its energy and return to its relaxed state, the
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  Speaker 3: electron has to flip its spin back, but doing so
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  Speaker 3: spontaneously is a quote unquote forbidden transition in quantum physics.
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  Speaker 2: We'bidden.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's highly improbable and very very slow.
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  Speaker 2: So the energy is essentially locked behind a quantum bottleneck.
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  Speaker 3: Exactly.
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  Speaker 2: If the polaritin is like a spinning top balancing precariously
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  Speaker 2: on the very edge of a table, like highly energetic
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  Speaker 2: but incredibly fragile, the metastable triplet state is like nudging
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  Speaker 2: that spinning top so it drops into a shallow bowl
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  Speaker 2: right below the edge.
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  Speaker 3: That's a perfect analogy.
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  Speaker 2: It's still spinning rapidly, meaning it still holds all that energy,
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  Speaker 2: but its physical environment restricts it. It's safe from just
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  Speaker 2: rolling off into the void immediately right.
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  Speaker 3: And that physical restriction is what creates the storage window.
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  Speaker 3: In this specific metastable state, the prototype manages to store
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  Speaker 3: the energy for tens of nanoseconds.
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  Speaker 2: Tens of nanoseconds, so billions of a second. That immediately
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  Speaker 2: raises a massive red flag for practical everyday use. If
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  Speaker 2: a battery dies a nanosecond after you charge it. It's
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  Speaker 2: totally useless for consumer electronics. Why is this being hailed
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  Speaker 2: as a revolutionary breakthrough if the storage time is completely
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  Speaker 2: invisible to the human eye.
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  Speaker 3: If we connect this to the bigger picture, you have
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  Speaker 3: to look at the relative time scales involved in the physics. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: in human time, a nanosecond is negligible, but in quantum time,
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  Speaker 3: compared to the charging event, it's an absolute eternity. A
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  Speaker 3: nanosecond is roughly a million times that six orders of
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  Speaker 3: magnitude longer than the femtosecond it took to charge the device.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I see, it's a ratio.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: If we scaled those physics up to human time, it
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  Speaker 2: would be like taking one second to charge your phone
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  Speaker 2: and the battery lasting for a million seconds, which is
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  Speaker 2: roughly what eleven and a half days of continuous power exactly.
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  Speaker 3: The absolute time is short because it is a microscopic,
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  Speaker 3: first generation prototype, but the ratio of charging time to
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  Speaker 3: storage time is phenomenal.
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  Speaker 2: That makes a lot more sense.
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  Speaker 3: This is the ultimate proof of concept. It proves conclusively
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  Speaker 3: that quantum stored energy can be trapped, moved to a
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  Speaker 3: metastable state, and held long enough to be intentionally extracted.
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  Speaker 3: Before this test, the physics community wasn't sure we could
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  Speaker 3: even pause the energy from immediately dissipating back into the environment.
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  Speaker 2: And the way they extract that energy the discharge phase
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  Speaker 2: is just as radical as the super absorption.
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  Speaker 3: Oh absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: The researchers from the University of Melbourne and r miit
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  Speaker 2: didn't just measure the storage capabilities. They measured the physical
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  Speaker 2: power output, and they did it under simulated ambient conditions
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  Speaker 2: just a key right. They used low intensity, completely normal
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  Speaker 2: incoherent light to trigger the discharge, rather than relying on
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  Speaker 2: a highly tuned laboratory laser.
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  Speaker 3: And what they discovered is that the maximum power output
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  Speaker 3: scales approximately as N squared.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, let's walk through the mechanics of that N squared scaling. Sure,
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  Speaker 2: we established that if N is the number of molecules,
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  Speaker 2: the storage capacity scales as the square root of end,
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  Speaker 2: which may make it charge faster. But the discharge, the
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  Speaker 2: actual power it blasts out into a circuit, is end squared.
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  Speaker 2: So if you scale the device up to a thousand molecules,
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  Speaker 2: a thousand squared.
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  Speaker 3: Is a million exactly. The mechanism behind this massive output
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  Speaker 3: relates to electrical pressure or voltage. Okay, in a standard battery,
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  Speaker 3: each chemical reaction produces a tiny fixed amount of voltage.
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  Speaker 3: But in this quantum microcavity, because the molecules act as
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  Speaker 3: a single delocalized quantum entity, their electrical potentials stack constructively.
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  Speaker 2: They all add up together.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, the collective dipole moment of the entire system acts
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  Speaker 3: together as one massive unit. When you open the circuit
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  Speaker 3: to release that energy, the pressure the open circuit voltage
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  Speaker 3: grows with a square root of end. That increased voltage
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  Speaker 3: drives this massive n squared power scaling.
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  Speaker 2: So larger devices won't just hold more power, they will
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  Speaker 2: deliver disproportionately massive bursts of energy. Precisely, it's super extensive
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  Speaker 2: electrical discharging power. You aren't just getting a steady, linear
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  Speaker 2: drip of electricity. You have a reservoir that can unleash
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  Speaker 2: an absolute torrent of power on demand with incredibly high efficiency.
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  Speaker 3: It's really mind blowing.
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  Speaker 2: So what does this all mean. Let's take this fundamental
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  Speaker 2: physics breakthrough out of the CSIRO cleanroom and look at
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  Speaker 2: what happens when engineers inevitably overcome the current nanosecond storage
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  Speaker 2: limitation and stretch it to milliseconds, then seconds than hours.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, let's scale it up.
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  Speaker 2: What does an n squared power output and a one
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  Speaker 2: over square root of end charging time actually do for
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  Speaker 2: everyday infrastructure.
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  Speaker 3: Well, it fundamentally rewrites the limitations of almost every technology
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  Speaker 3: we rely on. Take electric vehicles, for example, the entire
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  Speaker 3: EV industry is currently bottlenecked by the physics of lithiumion
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  Speaker 3: charging curves. When you charge an EV today, the software
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  Speaker 3: actually slows down the energy transfer past eighty percent capacity
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  Speaker 3: to prevent the chemical battery from overheating and degrading, which is.
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  Speaker 2: Why that last twenty percent takes forever.
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  Speaker 3: Exactly, you have to find a station, plug in a
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  Speaker 3: massive heavy cable and weight. But if a vehicle's energy
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  Speaker 3: storage is built on a scaled up quantum microcavity, the
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  Speaker 3: charging dynamic shifts.
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  Speaker 2: Entirely because it's absorbing light.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, we are looking at wireless, instantaneous on the go
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  Speaker 3: charging infrastructure. You could drive under an ambient light array
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  Speaker 3: or a specialized highway laser system, and in the fraction
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  Speaker 3: of a second you pass beneath it, the vehicle's battery
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  Speaker 3: undergoes a massive, unified quantum transition of energy.
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  Speaker 2: That's incredible.
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  Speaker 3: The concept of stopping a vehicle specifically to charge it
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  Speaker 3: vanishes completely.
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  Speaker 2: And the implications for the global renewable energy grid are
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  Speaker 2: just as profound. I mean, the biggest systemic argument against
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  Speaker 2: solar and wind power has always been.
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  Speaker 3: Intermittency, right, the storage problem.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the sun shines brightly, but we can't physically capture
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  Speaker 2: and store the energy fast enough before a cloud rolls
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  Speaker 2: over or the wind blows a gale at night when
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  Speaker 2: demand is low, and the energy just goes to waste.
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  Speaker 2: The current grid suffers from the Duck curve, where energy
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  Speaker 2: production and human demand are constantly.
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  Speaker 3: Mismatched, and conventional chemical batteries are too slow to absorb
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  Speaker 3: those massive sudden spikes in generation. They're filling that bucket
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  Speaker 3: drop by drop. But a quantum grid scale battery utilizes
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  Speaker 3: super absorption. A sudden, intense burst of sunlight hits a
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  Speaker 3: solar array, and the quantum battery absorbs the entire load instantly,
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  Speaker 3: smoothing out the unpredictable nature of renewables perfectly.
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  Speaker 2: It catches everything at once exactly.
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  Speaker 3: It can stabilize the global grid and capture intermittent energy
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  Speaker 3: in a way chemical batteries simply cannot physically match.
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  Speaker 2: And because of that n square discharge rate. This isn't
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  Speaker 2: just about passive storage. You could supply aerospace systems or
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  Speaker 2: specialized medical devices like portable life saving defibrillators with massive
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  Speaker 2: instantaneous energy bursts.
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: Oh.
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, Traditional batteries suffer rapid chemical degradation when you draw
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: power too quickly, but quantum systems don't rely on physical chemistry,
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: degrading over time and.
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: Escaping that chemical degradation is a crucial practical point for commercialization.
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: The global economy is currently entirely reliant on chemical reactions
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: from mobile power. Yeah, lithium right, Those batteries require intensive,
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: environmentally destructive mining for rare earth metals like lithium and cobalt.
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: The supply chains are geopolitically fraught and ecologically damaging. But
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: there is a massive manufacturing edge to this specific prototype
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: that bypasses that entire paradigm.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: It operates at room temperature.
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: Yes. When the scientific community usually discusses quantum technology like
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: quantum computing or quantum sensors, it almost always requires massive,
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: multimillion dollar cryogenic refrigeration.
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: Because heat ruins the coherence exactly.
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: Most quantum states require temperatures near absolute zero to prevent
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: the decoherence we discussed earlier. The fact that this microcavity
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: protects the polaritans at room temperature is a staggering advantage.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: It completely bypasses the extreme expensive cooling infrastructure. You don't
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: need a liquid helium tank in your smartphone or your
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: car to make the battery function.
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: No, you don't. And furthermore, the device relies purely on
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: organic materials. The copper tholoceanine molecules are carbon based chemistry,
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: So no mining, right, We're talking about synthesizing materials in
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: a lab, not digging massive open pit mines for heavy metals.
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: This opens the door to flexible, low cost and environmentally
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: sustainable manufacturing. That's huge, it really is. The global economy
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: could potentially free itself entirely from the geopolitical bottleneck of
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: mining rare metals for lithium ion batteries.
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: It's a complete paradigm shift in material science. The researchers
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: at CSIRO, Melbourne University and r MIT haven't just tweaked
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: the efficiency of an existing battery. They have fundamentally proven
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: that quantum mechanics can be harnessed directly for large scale
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: energy systems.
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they successfully demonstrated a complete charge, store and discharge cycle.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: Obviously, massive engineering challenges remain, oh for sure, like scaling
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: up the physical size of the microcavity, is extending the
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: medestable storage time from nanoseconds to practical hours or days.
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot of work ahead.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: But the foundational physics are no longer just a theory
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: on a chalkboard. They have been proven in.
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: Reality, and this raises an important question, an entirely new
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: frontier to consider. Is this technology matures. We've talked about
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: cars and power grids, but think about environments where energy
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: is incredibly scarce and time is critical. Consider deep space exploration.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: Oh wow, like probes sent to the outer Solar System,
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: far beyond Jupiter or Saturn, exactly.
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: Out there, the ambient starlight is incredibly dim. Traditional solar
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: panels struggle to gather enough energy to power basic instruments.
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: But a quantum battery utilizing super absorption could theoretically capture
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: a massive, unified charge from just a handful of faint photons.
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: That's amazing.
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: Or looking inward, consider the field of nanomedicine. If you
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: can build a battery the micro roscopic scale that charges
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: instantly from ambient biological light or brief infrared pulses. You
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: could theoretically embed medical nanobots directly into the human.
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: Bloodstring, and they wouldn't need a power source.
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: Right They would never need to be physically retrieved to recharge.
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: They could operate indefinitely, seeking out pathogens or repairing tissue.
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: That feels like science fiction.
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: It does, But when the physical constraints of chemical charging
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: times are erased from the equation, the limitations on where
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: human technology can survive and operate vanish right along with them.
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: Think about how much of modern human life is dictated
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: by the concept of waiting for power.
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, waiting for a phone to charge, waiting for a
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: gas tank to fill, waiting for a grid to power up.
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: Exactly if quantum batteries scale successfully, energy transfer will become
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: virtually instantaneous, limited only by the speed of light rather
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: than the speed of chemical reactions. How will society and
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: technology fundamentally transform when the concept of charging time is
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: entirely a race from the human experience