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Another Assasination Attempt · The M&M Experience

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  Speaker 1: Main Ingredient nineteen seventy two, Michael, before we hop into
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  Speaker 1: a bevy of topics. You know the actor Cuba you
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  Speaker 1: know the actor Cuba Gooding Junior. I sure has showed
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  Speaker 1: me the money there. Yeah, exactly, Jerry Maguire out front
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  Speaker 1: of this man main ingredient, that is his dad, that
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  Speaker 1: is Cuba Gooding Senior. Out front of main Ingredient. He
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  Speaker 1: would have been and hang on a second, he would
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  Speaker 1: have been eighty two to day passed away back in
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  Speaker 1: twenty seventeen. Okay, which angle do you want to start with? First?
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  Speaker 1: They're fifty stories all wrapped around one story of the
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  Speaker 1: Saturday night shooting. So many things to cover.
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  Speaker 2: A boy, what a weekend it has been. And you know,
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  Speaker 2: I heard a big mouth talk show host last week
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  Speaker 2: say nothing good comes out of this White House Correspondence
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  Speaker 2: Association dinner. Nothing good show it happens when he if
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  Speaker 2: he were to go to this thing. So I just
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  Speaker 2: want to point out that no stra Damas again was right.
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  Speaker 2: Although although there's a lot of transparency, a lot of
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  Speaker 2: things that have that have been very positive as a
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  Speaker 2: result of this attempted assassination. First of all, well, I
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  Speaker 2: want to bring this to the smartest one of the
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  Speaker 2: smartest people I know. You got to explain something to me.
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  Speaker 2: You got a guy armed to the teeth, bursting into
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  Speaker 2: this hotel through the barricades, in the words of President Trump,
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  Speaker 2: looking like an NFL wide receiver. All right, shotgun, handguns, knives,
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  Speaker 2: shoots a Secret Service agent, Mark Davis. How did they
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  Speaker 2: not turn this guy into a piece of Swiss cheese?
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  Speaker 2: How did they not shoot him? And how did they
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  Speaker 2: not empty their chambers? How is this guy alive? How
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  Speaker 2: did he get like not even a hair on his
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  Speaker 2: head harmed?
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I've actually asked some people about this because it's
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  Speaker 1: a very good question. How is he even alive? And
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  Speaker 1: it's funny. There were some substantial news organizations who, for
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  Speaker 1: a couple of minutes there said he was dead. I
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  Speaker 1: respect is dead. I went, okay, sounds good to me.
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  Speaker 1: And then wait a minute, what just just apprehended? He's
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  Speaker 1: not dead. So imagine the following. The guy bursts through,
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  Speaker 1: and I mean that is some flash style speed. He
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  Speaker 1: bursts through. You see people draw on him. Did they
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  Speaker 1: exchange fire after he had released a little bit of
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  Speaker 1: bullets from his weaponry? Yes? They did. Was it Was
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  Speaker 1: it a fuselade of stuff, you know, like from machine guns. No,
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  Speaker 1: because you're a you're a hotel that has a crowd
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  Speaker 1: of people, which is probably the ig that's going to
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  Speaker 1: mitigate the degree. Now did they did they return fire?
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  Speaker 1: Did they shoot at him? Yes, they did. Did any
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  Speaker 1: of those bullets hit him?
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  Speaker 2: No?
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  Speaker 1: They The amount of time that they spent shooting at
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  Speaker 1: him was a small number of seconds, because that's how
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  Speaker 1: quickly they were able to take him to the ground.
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  Speaker 1: And well, he's on the ground, you don't really need
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  Speaker 1: to shoot him anymore.
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  Speaker 2: There's tons of questions about the security and a lot
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  Speaker 2: of a lot of issues that are going to be raised.
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  Speaker 2: We're gonna we're going to have on the show today
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  Speaker 2: a former NYP de deck detective who just knows this
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  Speaker 2: stuff like the back of his hand, Pat Brosden, going
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  Speaker 2: to join us to talk about the concerns because apparently
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  Speaker 2: the shooter came down the stairwell like thirty flights. The
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  Speaker 2: stairwells were not secure at the hotel. Big breach, big mistake.
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  Speaker 2: There's just a lot of questions to be raised. But
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  Speaker 2: on the other hand, let's think about the positive outcome.
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  Speaker 2: You're right, nobody else shot, None of the bystanders hurt.
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  Speaker 2: Nobody hurt except for the Listen, it doesn't feel good
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  Speaker 2: to take a bullet to the bulletproof vest. So that
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  Speaker 2: guy's waking up sore today. Yeah, but I also want
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  Speaker 2: to I've been thinking a lot over the last forty
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  Speaker 2: eight hours, Mark, about Barack Obama. Consider this, in the
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  Speaker 2: eight years that he was president, there wasn't one credible
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  Speaker 2: assassination attempt on that man's life. Okay, now that's not
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  Speaker 2: something to be proud of, Mark, I'm not bragging on that.
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  Speaker 2: But to the left, we're in a nation that is
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  Speaker 2: just chock full of racists and bigots and people who
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  Speaker 2: want to do harm to people of color. To the left,
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  Speaker 2: their view of America is we are a dastardly, bigoted,
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  Speaker 2: filthy racist nation. And yet look it up, nobody was
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  Speaker 2: shooting at Barack Obama. Trump has now survived three very viable,
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  Speaker 2: credible assassination attempts. What is that We're not the same? Mark,
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  Speaker 2: We're not the same. And to any purple haired freak
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  Speaker 2: with a nosering who wants to insist that we're a
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  Speaker 2: racist nation, you explain how nobody harmed a hair on
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  Speaker 2: President Barack Obama's head for the entire eight years that
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  Speaker 2: he was commander in chief.
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  Speaker 1: And people said and people and conservatives and people some
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  Speaker 1: on our side ratcheted up a little too far and
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  Speaker 1: said some really out of bounds things about him. You
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  Speaker 1: could find people saying those things. But one of these
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  Speaker 1: things is not like the other. I mean, I could
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  Speaker 1: find we could find a couple of callers who thought
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  Speaker 1: Obama was the Antichrist, but they didn't have network TV shows,
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  Speaker 1: and they didn't have millions of follow or is on
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  Speaker 1: social media. This is mainstream thought for today's left, that
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  Speaker 1: he is hitler, that he is a demonstrable evil, that
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  Speaker 1: he is a threat to democracy. Is it any wonder
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  Speaker 1: that every once in a while some mush i say
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  Speaker 1: mush brain. This guy was apparently whip smart, had a
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  Speaker 1: degree from Caltech.
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  Speaker 2: The nature of the month mark They believed.
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  Speaker 1: What the media culture and the democrat culture told him.
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  Speaker 1: These There are people who if you say these things,
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  Speaker 1: people will believe you.
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  Speaker 2: But can we go back to your point? This is
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  Speaker 2: something another one that I've been grappling with, and I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to get a lot of flak for this probably,
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  Speaker 2: but that's okay. I'm gonna say it anyway. You talked
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  Speaker 2: about how there are certainly people on our side who
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  Speaker 2: went over the top and have said things over the top.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think it's wrong to say. And I know
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to get accused of the both sides is stuff.
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  Speaker 2: And make no mistake, I know which is the violent side.
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  Speaker 2: I get it. You know where the leftists are a
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  Speaker 2: violent people. They really want us dead. There's just just
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  Speaker 2: ask Erica Kirk. They want to they want to kill us. However,
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  Speaker 2: I don't think there's harm in saying can we all
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  Speaker 2: all take the temperature down? Can we all back down?
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  Speaker 2: Can we all reassess? And let me tell you why there?
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  Speaker 2: And the pushback I'll get for this is people are
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  Speaker 2: gonna say, oh my, don't play this, what about both
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  Speaker 2: of both sizes?
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  Speaker 1: You're not doing a myth of equivalency at all, not
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  Speaker 1: at all.
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  Speaker 2: And I want to say this because some egos involved
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  Speaker 2: here both sides want to be right. They want to
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  Speaker 2: be convinced that we are a bunch of foaming at
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  Speaker 2: the mouth, racist bigots, fascistic nutcake all right, we think
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  Speaker 2: there are a bunch of violent lunatics who want to
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  Speaker 2: wipe us out and they want to destroy this country.
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  Speaker 2: But when you have a disagreement, and when there's this fundamental,
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  Speaker 2: you know, polar opposite, it's okay for people to come
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  Speaker 2: together and say, you know what, can we all lower
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  Speaker 2: the temperature because this this isn't good for this country?
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  Speaker 2: Can all of us just take it? I don't think
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  Speaker 2: there's anything wrong with that. You see what Bruce Bristein said.
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  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I mean here who has an entire concert
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  Speaker 1: tour based on Trump hatred? But last night he and.
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  Speaker 2: Austin apparently last night said you know what, I'm glad
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  Speaker 2: the president is safe. I'm had everybody there is safe.
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  Speaker 2: We can disagree civilly, but we now now again. I'm
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  Speaker 2: no Springsteen fan, you know how I feel about the guy.
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  Speaker 2: I'm in the Springsteen is overrated camp so always have been.
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  Speaker 2: And then his his his toxic leftist politics doesn't make
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  Speaker 2: it any better. But here's what I want to I
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  Speaker 2: want to quote this. He offered a prayer of a
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  Speaker 2: prayer of thanks that our president his words, nor anyone
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  Speaker 2: in the administration, nor anyone attendant attending, was injured. We
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  Speaker 2: can disagree, he said, we can be critical of those
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  Speaker 2: in power, and we can peacefully fight for our beliefs.
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  Speaker 2: But there is no place, in any way, shape or
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  Speaker 2: form for political violence of any kind in our beloved
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  Speaker 2: United States. Now let's see if that holds. I hope
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  Speaker 2: it does. But in the moment, good for him, Mark,
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  Speaker 2: Good for him.
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  Speaker 1: I am that's what we need.
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  Speaker 2: Mike.
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  Speaker 1: I'm unmoved. I'm completely unmoved. Whether I'm moved, Well, let
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  Speaker 1: me talk. Let me talk you out of that, because
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  Speaker 1: I think you might be. You're I think you're a sucker.
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  Speaker 1: I think that. I say that with love. I think
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  Speaker 1: this is Springsteen. There were there were I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if it was Rapid Response forty seven or the RNC
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  Speaker 1: or something. They went and found all kinds of examples
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  Speaker 1: of people. One of them was Illinois Governor J. B. Pritzker.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe I Keeme Jeffreys, I don't know, saying really nice
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  Speaker 1: and sweet things for one minute on one day, saying
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  Speaker 1: exactly the right thing, saying, look, we should be able
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  Speaker 1: to disagree with Trump, disagree on policy. It's better than
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  Speaker 1: exactly better.
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  Speaker 2: It's better than the Sarah County, Minnesota County school board
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  Speaker 2: saying oh, we're sorry he missed.
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  Speaker 1: It's a lot better than what we're conson brewery. Do
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  Speaker 1: you know about Wisconsin for a day? Free beer, free
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  Speaker 1: beer day and a mug with a red tie on
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  Speaker 1: the ground.
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  Speaker 2: When he gives you an olive branch, take it, Mark,
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  Speaker 2: You're not a sucker for having some graciousness.
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  Speaker 1: No, that's not being a shock. But I is my
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  Speaker 1: cynicism well placed? I think it is, and I got
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  Speaker 1: it first. I don't for one minute believe that any
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  Speaker 1: of these people will stop their savagery of him. I
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  Speaker 1: believe this is one day, and honestly, I think it
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  Speaker 1: was motivated not by personal decency but by self protection.
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  Speaker 1: I think from Springsteen.
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  Speaker 2: At this stage in his career, you think he's worried
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  Speaker 2: about being canceled. What what's what's going to get any
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  Speaker 2: of these people? Nay, none of them get canceled. Jimmy Kimmel,
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  Speaker 2: a few days before the assassination attempt, stood up and
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  Speaker 2: did a mock White House Correspondence dinner. Ye skipped and
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  Speaker 2: stood at a podium and said, oh, look at Malania
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  Speaker 2: out there. She's she's got the glow of an expectant widow.
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  Speaker 2: That guy should be fired now, ABC, execut you should
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  Speaker 2: call him and say you know what, that's all no nothing,
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  Speaker 2: Bruce Springsteen doesn't care. So when they give you something,
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  Speaker 2: take it.
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  Speaker 1: I'm I'm going to take it, but I'll take it
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  Speaker 1: with the biggest asterisk imaginable feeling like it is a
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  Speaker 1: moment of realization that Springsteen and all these other people
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  Speaker 1: know the savagery and cruelty that they have doled out,
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  Speaker 1: and they wanted to They didn't want to be grouped
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  Speaker 1: in with well, I want to be given momentary credit
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  Speaker 1: for being decent for a million.
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  Speaker 2: But that's a good But that's a good thing because
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  Speaker 2: if you're right, if they're realizing we've gone too far,
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  Speaker 2: there's a possibility that And I don't know what's in
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  Speaker 2: their hearts. I mean, some of these people display every no.
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  Speaker 2: But if they change their heart, you don't know it.
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  Speaker 2: You're not going to know, So I don't know what
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  Speaker 2: their process is like. But look at this, this this
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  Speaker 2: despicable what's your name? Anna Navarro adding to the theory
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  Speaker 2: that it was staged. Do you know these lunatics actually
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  Speaker 2: want to pretend that it was that these are all
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  Speaker 2: staged events, that Trump is getting his you know, would
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  Speaker 2: be killers to show up and shoot at him. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: you know, when you think about it, think I'm lucky
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  Speaker 2: Anna Navarro. Is that woman gets paid by two networks?
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  Speaker 2: Can you imagine she was she hit the lottery because
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  Speaker 2: she's dumber than a than a bag of ozempic. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: this is a dumb, dumb woman getting on there and say, oh,
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  Speaker 2: you know, the reason we don't think it really happened
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  Speaker 2: is because he's a liar. He'd lie. You know what
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  Speaker 2: I like about an event like this? Mark? Actually I
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  Speaker 2: love it about there's a there is a cleansing, there
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  Speaker 2: is a there's a disinfectant, there's a way to see
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  Speaker 2: these slimy, nasty, clear ginarly hateful people. And I think
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  Speaker 2: I love your point, Mark, and I'm glad you agree
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  Speaker 2: with me. I was surprised. I thought you'd really give
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  Speaker 2: me a hard time on this. It's it's we all
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  Speaker 2: tend to be living in perpetual rage. Now. I think
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  Speaker 2: our rage is kind of well placed. Yeah, real things,
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  Speaker 2: but but you know what, let's I think too many
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  Speaker 2: of us are living for that. We're doom scrolling. We
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  Speaker 2: get fired up, we listen and we get angrier and
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  Speaker 2: our blood pressure goes up, and oh I hate them
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  Speaker 2: and no, they hate us, and let's can let I
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  Speaker 2: think these Bruce Springsteen moments, short lived as they might be,
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  Speaker 2: let's let's embrace them for a while.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm more than open. I'm more than open to
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  Speaker 1: the possibility. And I will maintain a hopeful stance that
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  Speaker 1: it has followed that this moment is followed by better
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  Speaker 1: behavior from a people speaking of the follow things. Because
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  Speaker 1: when they hold this event again, how do you think
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  Speaker 1: it's going to go? He said, let's do it within
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  Speaker 1: thirty days?
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  Speaker 2: Uh?
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  Speaker 1: A couple of weird points that are probably not bad questions.
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  Speaker 1: Can a woman wear the same gown?
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  Speaker 2: Does that?
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  Speaker 1: Does that might count? And also what the what? What
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  Speaker 1: did they do with two six hundred servings of steak
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  Speaker 1: and lobster that nobody got to eat?
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  Speaker 2: Did you see the video of the woman that was
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  Speaker 2: scarfing up all the wine bottles put in her purse?
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  Speaker 2: She was those she was pulling up? But you know
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  Speaker 2: what's interesting about doing it again? And I love this
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  Speaker 2: point because how.
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  Speaker 1: About how you think it's going to go? How do
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  Speaker 1: you think will there be?
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  Speaker 2: But how about that's how about making this an argument
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  Speaker 2: for the ballroom?
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  Speaker 1: Look, John Fetterman, the this thing would not have been
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  Speaker 1: and will never be held in the flip and White
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  Speaker 1: House ballroom. It's not a white House event, But it
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  Speaker 1: doesn't mean that The point isn't.
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  Speaker 2: Oh I see, well it could well, it could well,
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  Speaker 2: it could be it is the White House correspondence dinner.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, but it's not the White House. It's the
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  Speaker 1: exact opposite of the White House. It's the people who
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  Speaker 1: cover the White House. A private event done by them
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  Speaker 1: that has nothing to do with Trump.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but this shall be held the way, but you
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  Speaker 2: tell them that we need to have better security. Look
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  Speaker 2: in his flash from from Ronald Reagan to Trump, Donald Trump,
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  Speaker 2: this ain't exactly the most in America.
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  Speaker 1: Out front of the hotel Reagan shot March of eighty one.
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  Speaker 1: So plenty seconds, let's say this, this event is held
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  Speaker 1: again in twenty one or twenty four, twenty six days?
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  Speaker 1: Will the goodwill? Will there be some vestige of the
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  Speaker 1: goodwill remaining? Will there be some appreciative applause for him,
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  Speaker 1: some gracious comments from him?
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  Speaker 2: No?
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  Speaker 1: Or or will we all back to our we we?
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  Speaker 2: They don't need to hold another room. They don't need
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  Speaker 2: to hold another one call a thing. Oh, they don't
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  Speaker 2: need No, they don't you see that the end? No,
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  Speaker 2: of course you do, because they don't swim. There's poloney,
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  Speaker 2: there's nothing gained from it. It's a bunch of self
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  Speaker 2: congratulatory egotists.
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  Speaker 1: Whatever.
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  Speaker 2: Just forget it. There's nothing good from this thing. Let
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  Speaker 2: it go.
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  Speaker 1: I think it'll think it'll be lovely when you do
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  Speaker 1: it again. And there's some goodwill, I think. I think
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  Speaker 1: there's an opportunity call it. I'm gonna ask you to
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  Speaker 1: embrace the possible goodwill in the room of maybe again.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just mad. I can't tell you about my Vegas
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  Speaker 2: trip because we got to do that later in the week.
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  Speaker 1: And I can't.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. And the way when you saw the
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