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Hutton & Withrow: Titans Disaster, Tim Brando Rips Lane Kiffin, Mike Elko Apologizes | Hour 2 · Hutton & Withrow Show

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  Speaker 1: It is Hunt and Withrow presented by Hard Rock Bet.
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  Speaker 1: More with Tim Brando straight ahead. Right now, Clay Travis Law.
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  Speaker 1: It's coming right after Tim, after his 11 a.m. pissed
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  Speaker 1: off for greatness rant there. Accidents don't wait for a
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  Speaker 1: great time. You've got bad moments here. A wreck, a fall,
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  Speaker 1: you're fighting an insurance company that does this every single day.
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  Speaker 2: That's 877-222-4444.
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  Speaker 3: I don't remember phone numbers. This was very easy. 877-222-4444.
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  Speaker 3: That's ClayTravisLaw.com. Timmy, a Mike Ditka story.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, man.
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  Speaker 4: Those years that I was at CBS doing the college
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  Speaker 4: football today with Spencer Tillman, and even prior to that,
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  Speaker 4: Coach Holtz and Craig James the first year, he had
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  Speaker 4: come in to help save the NFL today with Jim Nance,
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  Speaker 4: and Jerry Glanville was in there with him.
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  Speaker 2: Can you imagine Glanville and Ditka together?
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  Speaker 4: Now, we did– people have always asked, the NFL guys
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  Speaker 4: and the college guys, did you guys spend some– yeah,
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  Speaker 4: we did.
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  Speaker 2: We did.
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  Speaker 4: And Iron Mike– And those guys would always be out
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  Speaker 4: on Friday night when we were getting in. And we
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  Speaker 4: would be out on Friday night at Ben Benson's Steakhouse
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  Speaker 4: on West.
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  Speaker 2: 52nd between 6th and 7th. That was our haunt. That's
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  Speaker 2: where we went.
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  Speaker 4: And after our games on Saturdays, the guy that was
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  Speaker 4: in charge, it was the night manager there, Jimmy O'Brien,
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  Speaker 4: took care of all of us. And we knew we
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  Speaker 4: had our table waiting for us as soon as that
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  Speaker 4: SEC game was over on Saturdays. But on Friday nights,
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  Speaker 4: Ditka and those guys would be out. And there was
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  Speaker 4: also a bar, like a little Irish bar right across
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  Speaker 4: the street from the then Riga Royal Hotel. If you're
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  Speaker 4: ever in New York now, it's the London Hotel on
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  Speaker 4: West 54th between 6th and 7th. And those guys would
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  Speaker 4: always finish up their night there. Well, there was a
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  Speaker 4: beautiful lobby bar in the Riga. And God only knows
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  Speaker 4: who you might see on a given night.
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  Speaker 5: Right. Right.
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  Speaker 2: Mike was big.
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  Speaker 4: On red wine, and he was big on passing out
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  Speaker 4: C-notes to all the bartenders and to anyone that, I mean,
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  Speaker 4: he had a stack of, it's a true story. Nance
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  Speaker 4: was asked about it earlier. I saw him being interviewed
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  Speaker 4: on another website about it. And Jim took some time
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  Speaker 4: and said, isn't that a little costly? And Mike said,
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  Speaker 4: you know what? And I did, I saw it with
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  Speaker 4: my own eyes. He got a little imbibed one night
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  Speaker 4: across the street and I was in the lobby bar
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  Speaker 4: and some people called and said, hey, they need some
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  Speaker 4: help across the street.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so we, you know, and.
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  Speaker 4: I started to go and then they said, no, no, no, Timmy,
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  Speaker 4: there's enough people there.
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  Speaker 2: He's going to be okay.
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  Speaker 4: Glanville and a few, Mike needed a little help getting.
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  Speaker 2: Across the street.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And Everybody that came in his wake and all the people,
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  Speaker 4: he was such a lovely guy. And he had imbibed
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  Speaker 4: a little too much that night, but he was passing
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  Speaker 4: out 100s to all of them, literally $ 100 bills to
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  Speaker 4: everybody that reached out. And I asked him the next day,
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  Speaker 4: I saw him at the, they were having their meetings
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  Speaker 4: on that Saturday while we were doing our show.
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  Speaker 2: And he was fine.
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  Speaker 4: Big Mike, he rebounded big time. He could rebound with
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  Speaker 4: the best of them. And so I said, I said,
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  Speaker 4: how are you feeling coach? He said, I'm good.
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  Speaker 2: Short a couple of hundred, but I'm good. It's just
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  Speaker 2: the way he took it.
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  Speaker 4: It was like, Hey, I need it. You know, it
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  Speaker 4: looks and I appreciate where I said, no, no, no.
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  Speaker 4: I started to come over, but I, you didn't need me. I,
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  Speaker 4: you were good. And you were, you were in better
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  Speaker 4: shape than I thought when he said, God's not a problem.
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  Speaker 2: But I mean, that is who he was big heart.
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  Speaker 2: He did everything big.
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  Speaker 4: And he worked hard and he played hard. And he
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  Speaker 4: lived a very full 86 years.
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  Speaker 2: We're all going to miss him.
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  Speaker 4: But he'll resonate with us in death very similarly to
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  Speaker 4: the way he resonated with us in life. Because he
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  Speaker 4: was a bigger than life personality. But a better human
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  Speaker 4: being you would not meet. I was a big Dave
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  Speaker 4: Wonstadt fan. And Dave was toying with getting into TV
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  Speaker 4: and toying with taking the pit job And they had
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  Speaker 4: him come in to be on the NFL Today after
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  Speaker 4: he had been fired by the Dolphins. And I was
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  Speaker 4: trying to get him to take the pit job. And
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  Speaker 4: Ditka overheard me saying to Juan, say, yeah, hell yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Get your ass in there. We need some toughness in
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  Speaker 4: that damn program again.
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  Speaker 2: Get over there. We need you.
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  Speaker 4: And it was like, in a couple of weeks after that,
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  Speaker 4: I see, oh, Juan, he's taking the job. He's going
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  Speaker 4: to be over at pit again.
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  Speaker 3: So.
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  Speaker 4: you know, those, those kinds of stories will live with
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  Speaker 4: me forever. And I, to be a, it was like
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  Speaker 4: being a fly on the wall with legends is what
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  Speaker 4: it was like to be around Iron Mike.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, next time we're together, I want to, I've got
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  Speaker 1: to go to one of these steak houses with you. Hey,
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  Speaker 1: a final thing here, the final couple of minutes, your,
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  Speaker 1: your takeaways from Kiffin's first year where we've got tons
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  Speaker 1: of money being spent, plenty of expectations at LSU and,
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  Speaker 1: Kiffin with the losses, Ole Miss and Kentucky. But what
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  Speaker 1: Kentucky's done, are they the team like Oklahoma was a
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  Speaker 1: year ago?
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  Speaker 2: Will Stein is the hell of a coach. He's been great.
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  Speaker 4: One of the reasons Oregon is struggling right now It's
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  Speaker 4: because Will Stein's gone. Will Stein's not there running that
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  Speaker 4: offense for a hell of a defensive coach in Dan Lanning.
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  Speaker 4: He also lost his defensive coordinator, Tosh LaPoi, who's also
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  Speaker 4: got a head coaching job at Cal. So it's hard
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  Speaker 4: to absorb those kinds of losses to your staff in
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  Speaker 4: a single year's time. That's been his problem. One of
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  Speaker 4: the reasons Kurt Cignetti keeps on keeping on in Indiana
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  Speaker 4: is that staff has never left.
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  Speaker 2: They're still with him. Holding on to your staff is
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  Speaker 2: very important.
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  Speaker 4: But as for Kiffin, people jumping off bridges down in
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  Speaker 4: South Louisiana all over again, and that's predictable too.
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  Speaker 2: Lane, even for all of the.
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  Speaker 4: You know, posh and circumstances that he brings because he's
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  Speaker 4: a rock star.
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  Speaker 3: No doubt.
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  Speaker 4: He's still, he's still got a coach in a tough
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  Speaker 4: league with great coaches on the opposite sidelines.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: That can out scheme you.
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  Speaker 3: No one is safe. No one is safe.
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  Speaker 4: Blake Baker's defense was taken to school on formation by
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  Speaker 4: Will Stein. who has a quarterback that's smart enough and
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  Speaker 4: has given the autonomy to check out of a play
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  Speaker 4: and call his own number. That wasn't a quarterback draw.
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  Speaker 4: That was a pass play that turned into a quarterback
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  Speaker 4: draw in essence, but it was not.
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  Speaker 2: A called quarterback draw.
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  Speaker 4: But the quarterback has the right when he sends two
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  Speaker 4: out to the left and two out to the right
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  Speaker 4: to see the open Red Sea and take it. Lane
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  Speaker 4: is not a genius. He's a great coach, but he's
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  Speaker 4: not a genius. Hey, he's a savant.
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  Speaker 2: He's this.
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  Speaker 4: The stuff surrounding that narrative was always overblown, and I
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  Speaker 4: think that LSU fans are now finding that out. But
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  Speaker 4: the tough part for most fans in Louisiana is that
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  Speaker 4: now they know, they know this, Jonathan, that the state
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  Speaker 4: looks so foolish for having spent that kind of money
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  Speaker 4: for these kinds of results.
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  Speaker 2: And you know what? That's a worthwhile critique.
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  Speaker 4: The state needs to take a look at itself in
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  Speaker 4: the mirror when they made that decision. I could have
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  Speaker 4: told them this. I could have told them. That isn't
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  Speaker 4: to say Lane can't get it done. I think he will.
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  Speaker 4: But to think he was going to get it done
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  Speaker 4: like that?
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  Speaker 3: No.
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  Speaker 2: No, not going to happen.
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  Speaker 3: Brian Kelly had a better record this time last year.
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  Speaker 2: Sure did. He already had a signature win, too.
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  Speaker 3: Can you see on your screen, can you see Chad
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  Speaker 3: with the backdrop where he is?
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  Speaker 2: You see him?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Look at that.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, they're going to love it, Chad, because check out
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  Speaker 1: the late night delight. I know you know this, but
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  Speaker 1: we've got the late night delight. The Nebraska and Oregon matchup.
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  Speaker 1: Tim's on the call for this late night.
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  Speaker 3: I love it.
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  Speaker 1: Live on Fox.com. 10 o'clock, it's the perfect 10, just
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  Speaker 1: like mortgage. You get the 10 o'clock start Central, 11 Eastern,
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  Speaker 1: 1-8 Pacific.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: No rest for Timmy B.
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  Speaker 4: No, take a little nap before the game, fellas. Take
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  Speaker 4: a little nap so you can last through it there
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  Speaker 4: in the Central time zone.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, man, thank you for doing this. Always great to
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  Speaker 1: chat with you. You're the best, and let's catch up soon.
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  Speaker 2: You got it. Thanks for calling in there, Chad, and
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  Speaker 2: have a great vacation. Good to be with you, Jonathan.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you.
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  Speaker 5: Yep.
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  Speaker 3: There's Tim Brando, just simply one of the greats there.
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  Speaker 3: I love having him on.
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  Speaker 1: Coming up, we've got Elko, who kisses the ring of Tex-Ax.
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  Speaker 1: Chad joins as well. Straight ahead, you're on Hutton & Withrow.
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  Speaker 1: It is Hutton & Withrow, and a great setting down
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  Speaker 1: in Florida for Withrow today, this morning. Fantastic, and always
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  Speaker 1: great to have Chad on the show. I mean, like
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  Speaker 1: you told Timmy B., the work never stops. That's right.
• 9:45
  Speaker 3: Crockett Coffee. fueling him this morning down in Florida.
• 9:49
  Speaker 1: Crockett Coffee started by Clay Travis, Buck Sexton, and Buck's
• 9:52
  Speaker 1: brother Mason, named after David Crockett. Hunter, storyteller, patriot, backwoods legend,
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  Speaker 1: and the logo. He's standing on the backs of crocodiles.
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  Speaker 1: It's not sitting on a warehouse shelf for six months. light, medium, dark, decaf, organic,
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  Speaker 1: even a mushroom blend. Whole bean, ground K-cups, however you
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  Speaker 1: Chad's got that rocked and rolling over at CrockettCoffee.com. That's CrockettCoffee, Crockett, C-R-O-C-K-E-T-T, coffee.com.
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  Speaker 3: What up? This is fantastic. The lighting's perfect. Well done.
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  Speaker 3: And we've got Crockett Coffee fueling the entire family down
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  Speaker 3: here on this trip. I'm sipping it right now. It's delicious.
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  Speaker 3: Got the Gulf of America feature prominently behind me right now.
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  Speaker 3: Beautiful morning here, Hutton, to be joining you at the beach.
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  Speaker 3: Love it here and having a great time. And Timmy
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  Speaker 3: B crushed it. He did get a lot of talk
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  Speaker 3: amongst our family in there, too, because he split Nebraska
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  Speaker 3: and Tennessee right down the middle at number 15. So
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  Speaker 3: that certainly sparked some conversation. But, yeah. Great day to
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  Speaker 3: be here with you, Hutton, and excited about this next
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  Speaker 3: hour of the show. A lot of college football stories
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  Speaker 3: around the country to get to. Yes, yes.
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  Speaker 1: We start with Elko, who did what everyone knew would
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  Speaker 1: happen after the Billy Sesspool comments. First, postgame, here's Mike Elko,
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  Speaker 1: Texas A & M, with comments about the fan base.
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  Speaker 3: Who might be worried about the team right now?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, again, there's a difference to me between the fan
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  Speaker 7: base and social media. And so there's one group that
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  Speaker 7: I really don't care much about. You know, Billy Sesspool
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  Speaker 7: can go be Billy Sesspool. Our fan base, stay with us,
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  Speaker 7: be behind us. We're going to build something that we
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  Speaker 7: told you we were going to build. We're in a
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  Speaker 7: really bad spot right now, but we'll work our way
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  Speaker 7: out of it.
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  Speaker 3: Really bad spot's correct.
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  Speaker 1: Really bad decision there because you're talking about a huge– Chuck,
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  Speaker 1: of your fan base.
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  Speaker 3: So what happens?
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  Speaker 1: Billy Lucci, by the way, took the high road in
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  Speaker 1: response to all of this with Tex-Ex. And Elko, he
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  Speaker 1: had to do the same.
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  Speaker 5: To address the post-game conversation again, you know, I think
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  Speaker 5: in the heat of the moment, I think I answered
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  Speaker 5: a question in a way that I certainly regret. I
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  Speaker 5: think everybody knows I have a tremendous relationship with Billy.
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  Speaker 5: I appreciate Billy. I appreciate him being here today. There's
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  Speaker 5: nothing about Billy and I that have ever been off
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  Speaker 5: since 2018. I think everybody knows I appreciate our fan
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  Speaker 5: base and everything that they're about and everything that they
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  Speaker 5: mean to Texas A & M. And outside of that,
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  Speaker 5: I'll leave it alone. I regret the way it was taken.
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  Speaker 5: I regret the way it came out. I regret the
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  Speaker 5: way it ran. And so That certainly was never my intention.
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  Speaker 5: And certainly throughout the course of that interview, at no
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  Speaker 5: point ever did I lend any blame to anything other
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  Speaker 5: than myself. I am the reason why this team is struggling.
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  Speaker 5: I have owned that since this has started. I continue
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  Speaker 5: to own that. It's my job to figure out how
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  Speaker 5: to get it better.
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  Speaker 3: So he kisses the ring there.
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  Speaker 1: Chad, my thought initially was, oh man, this is going
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  Speaker 1: to be really bad for Elko because We know Lucci
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  Speaker 1: helped get him the job. He's talking to him behind
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  Speaker 1: whatever they're doing. He came on our show, and Lucci did,
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  Speaker 1: and talked about all the candidates and specifically mentioned him
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  Speaker 1: as well. But the way that Lucci handled it, I think,
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  Speaker 1: helps him here because the site's not just digging in,
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  Speaker 1: going all in, based on the way Billy has responded
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  Speaker 1: to it. Chad, I'm fascinated to see if this sticks around,
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  Speaker 1: but it really just comes down to Does the 3-3
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  Speaker 1: team continue to just be in the level with Auburn
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  Speaker 1: and with South Carolina and Vanderbilt? If that continues, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: A & M will pay to have a coach fail.
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  Speaker 3: Well, Hutton, first off, Billy Lucci looks like a guy
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  Speaker 3: who's been living on the streets ever since he made
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  Speaker 3: those comments about Billy Lucci.
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  Speaker 8: Sorry, Mike Yalco.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Looks like a guy who's been living
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  Speaker 3: on the streets ever since then. The unshaven look and
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  Speaker 3: looks like a guy who's been homeless ever. Ever since
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  Speaker 3: he made those, he wasn't allowed to go back to
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  Speaker 3: College Station until he apologized. Look at that. This guy
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  Speaker 3: looks like he was thrown out of his home for
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  Speaker 3: making those comments. I use mafia analogies when I talk
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  Speaker 3: about the SEC or the NFL. You don't speak against
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  Speaker 3: the family. Billy Lucci knows that. He's been at this
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  Speaker 3: game for a long time. He's smart about it. He
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  Speaker 3: knows the lifeblood of his business is serving Texas A &
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  Speaker 3: M fans. And those fans feel a part of his
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  Speaker 3: community at Tex-Ags. And the one thing you're never going
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  Speaker 3: to do is speak out against them. You're going to
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  Speaker 3: go with the tide and the current of what the
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  Speaker 3: fans feel. So when it gets so bad that you
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  Speaker 3: pass the point of no return, then, yeah, you're going
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  Speaker 3: to have to turn on Jimbo Fisher when it's clear
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  Speaker 3: he's going to get fired anyways, right? But you're going
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  Speaker 3: up to the limit of defending him, supporting him, doing
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  Speaker 3: everything you can to see if he can figure it
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  Speaker 3: out and get the job done. Mike Elko's nowhere near
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  Speaker 3: that point. They reached with Jimbo Fisher, obviously, and he's
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  Speaker 3: done a nice job. This year has not been great,
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  Speaker 3: but he's done a nice job so far at Texas
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  Speaker 3: A & M. But Billy knows you don't speak out
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  Speaker 3: against it. I laughed at his.
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  Speaker 1: Interview with Dave Portnoy yesterday where he's like, oh, he
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  Speaker 1: didn't mean anything personal about me.
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  Speaker 3: And Dave's like, he said Billy. It's pretty personal. He
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  Speaker 3: talked about you and your cesspool. He did. Sounds like
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  Speaker 3: he was actually trying to take a dig at you,
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  Speaker 3: which he was. Elko's talking about, I hate how it
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  Speaker 3: was perceived. And I hate, dude, you said it like
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  Speaker 3: you did apologize for it. But of course that's going
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  Speaker 3: to be the one clip that's going to be run
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  Speaker 3: everywhere on every show. And everybody's going to be talking
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  Speaker 3: about it. When you say something like that, especially because
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  Speaker 3: Billy Lucci has got a lot of powerful friends and
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  Speaker 3: he knows everybody in media and that's, they're going to
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  Speaker 3: go and defend him first.
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  Speaker 1: And, and you know, we know powerful friends and one
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  Speaker 1: is Billy Lucci, right? Like, so I'm thinking, uh, This offseason,
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  Speaker 1: Billy and Tex-Ax were setting the expectation. Yeah, playoff's cool.
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  Speaker 1: But now it's about returning there. And then you start
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  Speaker 1: to have a program that is in the upper echelon,
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: the upper stack of teams. It's about doing it again.
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: And you can tell, Elko knows, that's not happening. We
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: all can see it. They haven't met it. The quarterback,
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: everything has just gone awry. And so the stress level,
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: he's hearing it. Because there are three losses, one win
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: in the conference. and a team that it just looks
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: like they're just going through the motions, honestly. And so
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: the quarterback's not completing passes. It's just not good.
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's now, Hunt, about what level of disappointment will
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: it be for Texas A & M this year. Because
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: halfway through the year, I mean, what they have left
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: to play for is, hey, you fought hard in the
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: back half of the schedule, you won a big game
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: or two, and you didn't completely quit, and that's something
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: you can build on for next year. Because this season's
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: a wash. I mean, it's not going to be what
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: they expected. It's not going to be what everybody hoped for.
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: We already know that at this point. So it's about
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: saving yourself and salvaging things moving forward now if you're
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: Mike Elko. But again, I mean, Billy Lucci– And TaxActs.com.
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: It is a great front for all things Texas A & M.
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: They support the program. They raise NIL funds for you.
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: This is where your base goes. Everybody knows who Billy
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: Lucci is. We said it yesterday. I'll say it again.
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: It was such an unforced error. I credit Mike Yelko
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: for not having too much pride to come back looking
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: homeless and apologize to Billy Lucci. And say that he
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: was wrong and they have a great relationship and to
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: clarify those things.
• 17:43
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: And now you've got to move forward. But moving forward
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: for Texas A & M football right now is, hey,
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: go look like a competent offense. What in the world
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: happened to Marcel Reed? Right? Let's figure something out offensively
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: where they can get something going because it's not anywhere
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: near good enough right now for them. No.
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: Meanwhile, it's really good that Shane Beaver hasn't lost that
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: locker room in Columbia.
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: I don't know what happens at the end of the
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: year with him, how this goes. I don't think we've
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: talked about it. South Carolina doesn't want to fire him
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: because they don't have the money and the funds or whatever.
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: It's like a $ 28 million buyout. I didn't think South
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: Carolina was going on the road and winning in Gainesville
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: because of the way Florida played the week before.
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: But he still had the locker room. I didn't think
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: that was going to be the case. But it was.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: You and I caught up with him down in Tampa
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: for the SEC media days. And we discussed the expectations.
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: But first.
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: We asked him about the team that came back with
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: him because he also came back to South Carolina when
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: he had other options.
• 18:43
  Speaker 6: I think it says a lot about Lenoris, but it
• 18:45
  Speaker 6: says a lot about our entire team and culture because
• 18:48
  Speaker 6: there's a lot of guys that you could say that
• 18:50
  Speaker 6: about on our team. Nick Carver, Dylan Stewart that easily
• 18:55
  Speaker 6: could have gone somewhere else to play because of the portal.
• 18:58
  Speaker 8: Left early for the NFL.
• 19:01
  Speaker 6: Could have said man I don't think we're going to
• 19:03
  Speaker 6: win I'm going to go somewhere else where I think
• 19:04
  Speaker 6: we can win they all came back because they believe
• 19:08
  Speaker 6: in what we're doing as a program and they believe
• 19:10
  Speaker 6: in what kind of team we can have in 2026
• 19:11
  Speaker 6: so I think that's a really powerful statement but Lenore
• 19:16
  Speaker 6: specifically I think it just goes to show that he
• 19:18
  Speaker 6: knows he can leave a legacy at South Carolina and
• 19:22
  Speaker 6: you know people talked about Lenore's leaving and I get
• 19:25
  Speaker 6: it it was a real possibility but I was never
• 19:27
  Speaker 6: worried I really wasn't.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: Uh Yes, he was.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: But South Carolina at the time was worried that Shane
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: Bieber was going to jump maybe to Virginia Tech, and
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: he stayed.
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: And what ended up happening?
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: He's got a team that's coming in with clear expectations
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: to climb the ladder. And, well, that comes with hot
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: seat because they were coming off a year that was
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: not good. Here's how he handled it going into the year,
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: and he was straightforward about it.
• 19:58
  Speaker 8: I think it's you worry about what you can control.
• 20:02
  Speaker 6: There's stress in this job, whether– I'm an assistant coach
• 20:05
  Speaker 6: or a head coach. You know you're judged on 12
• 20:09
  Speaker 6: Saturdays a year and winning football games.
• 20:12
  Speaker 8: So the stress becomes part of it.
• 20:13
  Speaker 6: I think a lot of stress is good if you
• 20:17
  Speaker 6: use it the right way in a positive way. But
• 20:20
  Speaker 6: for me, it's just making sure that I continue to
• 20:23
  Speaker 6: treat the people around me the right way, players, coaches, staff, family.
• 20:27
  Speaker 6: I worry about what I can control and not worrying
• 20:30
  Speaker 6: about anxiety of, oh.
• 20:31
  Speaker 8: My God, if we don't do this, this could happen
• 20:32
  Speaker 8: and all that.
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 20:34
  Speaker 6: You know, what do I got to do to make
• 20:35
  Speaker 6: our team better today? And they're all looking to me
• 20:38
  Speaker 6: to be that guy, and if I'm worried about the
• 20:39
  Speaker 6: wrong stuff, I'm not doing my job as a head coach.
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: Man, I'm thinking from a personal level. I don't have kids.
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: I'm not married. Yeah.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: So the internal aspect of it, too, it seems like
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: your close family kind of deals with it the same way.
• 20:50
  Speaker 6: That part's hard because I can lose a game and
• 20:54
  Speaker 6: go back in the office on Sunday, and it's tunnel
• 20:58
  Speaker 6: vision on the next opponent.
• 20:59
  Speaker 8: You can dig in. I can dig in. I don't
• 21:01
  Speaker 8: have to get on my phone. I'm at the building.
• 21:03
  Speaker 6: The only time I'm not in the building is early
• 21:05
  Speaker 6: in the morning when I drive in and late at
• 21:06
  Speaker 6: night when I drive home. And literally the first time
• 21:09
  Speaker 6: I'm out in public is on the following Thursday when
• 21:12
  Speaker 6: I do a live radio show at a restaurant in Columbia.
• 21:14
  Speaker 6: Not that's not the case for my family.
• 21:17
  Speaker 8: My kids got to go back to school on Monday.
• 21:19
  Speaker 6: And my wife goes to, you know, whatever base camp
• 21:22
  Speaker 6: fitness center on Sunday and see people, you know, and
• 21:25
  Speaker 6: that's who I worry about because they didn't sign up
• 21:27
  Speaker 6: for this. But, you know, I try and just, you know,
• 21:29
  Speaker 6: work really hard and win football games so they can
• 21:31
  Speaker 6: be in good positions.
• 21:32
  Speaker 8: But they're awesome and very strong and understand that.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: Chad, I bring up the Beamer dynamic here because he's
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: handled this the opposite of Elko in a way with
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: the stress. You know, Elko's talking about fan base and cesspool.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: Beamer has been straightforward just like he was there at
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: the podium in the losses. And then he's not trying to,
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: you know, pull up the He's not pulling up the
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: Dabo line of see me after the next 11 games
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: either whenever they win in Florida.
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: I like it.
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: I like the fact that the team came back. I
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: like the fact that he came back. But is it
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: rewarded ultimately? Probably not. It's just how the game is.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: That's how the business of football goes here. But I
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: wish we saw more of this than what we see
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: in reaction to stress whenever those coaches... also would get
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: after a player for not keeping their cool in the moment,
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: in a situation on the field.
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and shout out Base Camp Fitness in Columbia, South Carolina.
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: Also get a nice shout out from Shane Beamer, where
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: his wife goes to work out and you have to
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: be out in the public eye. Look, I think there are,
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: there's different levels to how you respond to adversity from
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: a sporting sense, right? I don't want to, lump this
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: in with all forms of adversity, which can be more
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: important than losing football games. But that is the most
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: important thing when you're one of those guys, right? In
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: the middle of the season, it feels like a terminal
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: illness when you lose a football game because it's your livelihood.
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: There's a lot of people who work for you within
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: that program. There's a lot of things going on. So
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: I don't want to over-inflate it. I also don't want
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: to devalue what a struggling college football season means to
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: some of these coaches. especially coming off another disappointing year,
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: the year before, for Shane Beamer. But I think Beamer
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: is just– he is the type of guy you want
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: in these situations to hold people together. Now, was last
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: year good enough? No. Could I make the argument that
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: Lenore Sellers made a mistake by staying at South Carolina
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: and not going somewhere else and spreading his wings? Maybe.
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: I applaud the kid. He's from the state, and he
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: stayed with his program, and not a lot of people
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: would do that. But look at his schedule. They're off
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: this week, and they get a week to prepare for
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: Tennessee at home. That's a good opportunity for South Carolina.
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: That's going to be a coin toss type game probably
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: by the time they kick it off. I could see
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: that being a pick-em or Tennessee a slight favorite or
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: South Carolina a slight favorite. They go to Oklahoma. They
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: get A & M at home. They've got at Arkansas,
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: and then they're likely going to get blown out by Georgia,
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: and they finish with Clemson. There are opportunities here for
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: him to dig himself out of this hole. Now, are
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: they going to have a great season based on what
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: the fan base wanted going into this year and what
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: we talked to Shea Beamer about down in Tampa? Absolutely not.
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: They're not going to reach those goals. But Tennessee at
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: home is a winnable game. At Oklahoma is a winnable
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: game for that team. A & M is a game
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: they should win at home. Arkansas is a game they
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: will win. They get up by 17 in the games
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: they lose. Yeah, I mean, we're looking at a 6-6
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: or 7-5, you know, probably type football team. Is that
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: good enough for him to keep his job? I think
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: it is. But I don't know. I think it turned
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: with that performance in the swamp to where I was.
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: He's completely out to, okay, now here's a route to
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: come back. And if they like the guy and they
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: don't want to pay him the buyout and all that,
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: they're going to let him circle the troops and go
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: at it again for another year. But we all know
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: that's just a tough spot to be in when all
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: of your guys that are NFL picks are leaving, and
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: now you're going to start over, and the expectation is, well,
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: you better be better than you were with Lenore Sellers
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: and Dylan Stewart and Nick Harbour and all those guys.
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: And that's a tough spot for Shane Beamer going into
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: next season. Yeah, it's not Arkansas, but it is a
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: situation where they can't afford your buyout. I say they're fine,
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: but if they can't pay $ 25, they're not going to
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: give you the NIL. It's a weird spot.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: But that comes with the territory of where anyone can
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: be had right now in the SEC.
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: Well, Dylan Stewart, the way he handled that, too, let's
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: shine a light on that. Yeah, that's good. I mean,
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: that was so well handled. He was the first guy
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: off the bus when he was allowed to come back
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: and play against Florida. Like, I think Dylan Stewart looked
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: like a crazy person on the sideline in that game, right? Like,
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: he looked terrible, and they rightfully suspended him. But I
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: think behind the scenes, the way they've handled that, they
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: did it on their terms. He had to meet whatever
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: standard Shane Beamer set. He answered the question and said, hey,
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: who else is going to go on the decision?
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: Me.
• 26:04
  Speaker 5: Me.
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: That's who will make the decision on when he can
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: come back and play. And I think Dylan Stewart responded
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: the right way, and now he's back as a fully
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: functioning member of that team. I can't help but like
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: the South Carolina story, but Hutton, does it save him long-term?
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I also don't have a lot of
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: big expectations about that program moving forward in the future.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's a– It's a similar situation on
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: a different level to what we saw at A &
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: M last year, to what we're seeing this year. The
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: jump up could be higher at A & M because
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: they're going to spend a ton of money. But where's
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: Elko going to take it? There's pressure with that. There's
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: pressure with Beamer just to keep his gig, knowing that
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: he's got all these great players that are coming back,
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: and it's a great example. But it's not going to
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: be rewarded in the long term. That's unfortunate. I wish
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: it were. I wish it was. Coming up, let's talk
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: some names. Saban and Ditka. Because with Saban, Chad, I've
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: got an option, a suggestion for the Titans to clean
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: house and bring in a partner. Not hire, but partner.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: And we talk about not just the coach, but the
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: cultural greats. Mike Ditka, straight ahead. Putney Withrow, I'm in Nashville.
• 27:27
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• 28:23
  Speaker 1: I want to get your response to my suggestion. Amy Adams-Trunk,
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: she has been very specific with her standard. On the
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: statements that she releases, it's about winning. It's about being
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: better than 7-5 in the month of December, for instance.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: Callahan didn't last. Of course, we saw what happened with Vrabel.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: He decided to leave. Whatever, they parted ways. Rand Carthon.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: Two wins is not enough.
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: Three, whatever.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: Year two, you better start winning. The stadium deal, I think,
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: factors in huge here. But they've got to get back
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: to football. To me, you do that by finding someone
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: who is great at being great. Nick Saban is a
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: minority owner of the Nashville Predators. The Titans can allow
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: a minority owner to buy in if she wants to
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: with 66%. And she remains the controlling owner. but someone
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: could literally run the football side and the entire building
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: about football. So different than what we're seeing with the
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: Vegas Raiders. And look at their start. What do you
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: think about that? And Peyton, just the idea of getting
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: someone that people trust to center the focus back in
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: the direction of the sport.
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: Instead of the event. Yeah, I mean, I think step
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: one is parting ways with Burke-Night Hill. Cleaning house. Which
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: is going to have to happen. I mean, if you're
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: looking at the next person on the chopping block, it's
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: got to be the person that's been in charge of
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: all of the disastrous moves and everything that's gone on
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: with this organization. And they're going to hype up the
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: stadium deal and the stadium being built and all that.
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: But that only takes you so far. I love it.
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: I wish they could sell 100 percent of the team
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: to Nick Saban or Peyton Manning, not just a minority stake.
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: I mean, I'm to the point now where I want
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: the other owners to blackball Amy Adam Strong and force
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: her to sell in some way the way they did
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: the Clippers owner back in the day, just so she's
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: no longer in that club of NFL owners. That's how
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: bad it's gotten with the Titans. And I know that's
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: not reality. And I know that Nick Saban or Peyton
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: Manning is not going to take 100 percent ownership of
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: the team. So, yeah, I think your solution is the
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: next bridge to get the Titans to be a serious
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: football organization is to get someone like that that can
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: get the public's trust, and not just the public's trust,
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: the city of Nashville, the state of Tennessee, middle of Tennessee,
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: to get fans back on board that you've got someone
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: who knows what they're doing and knows how to lead
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: and understands organizations and understands football. Anyone with that clout,
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: you know, I would take right now over the current
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: setup of what the Titans have going on. I mean,
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: they're being run from a football side by a guy
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: who's a lawyer, right? He's a legal counsel. The focus
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: has been about that building instead of building the roster.
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: They're going into a year where, again, I think the
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: focus should also be year two. She references year two
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: a lot in these statements.
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: In the era where she's releasing statements, they were coming
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: off of wins, right? So win the fan base back
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: by getting back to that standard where in year two,
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: opening the stadium, is she going to give Solace more
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: than six games?
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: Why?
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: If that's the ultimate result, who's making the hire? Borgonzi's
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: in year two right now. If the end result is
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: the standard, then they haven't met that. And if you
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: know that, then allow someone, a decision maker, to on
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: a path to football, win football games. And they're going
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: to win everything else under the roof. They already have.
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: They've got the building.
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: Win football games instead of acting like, you know, the
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: roster that they're rebuilding is those that poured the concrete.
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's kind of how it's been referenced.
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: So here would be my dream scenario, okay? Saban would
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: be awesome. I don't think– I always thought Peyton was
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: going to be the one to do this to follow
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: that John Elway– Dan Marino-type path of eventually you're going
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: to be running an organization. Like Brady.
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: I don't know if those guys were going to own,
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: but I'm talking ownership as well.
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and look, Peyton can do whatever he wants. He
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: can mess around on the Manning cast for as long
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: as he wants to. He can run Omaha Productions. He
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: can do a million commercials. He can go to Tennessee
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: games every other weekend. He can watch his kid play
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: high school football. He's doing all those things that he
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: wants to do in his life. Great for him. I
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: would love for him as a service to the state
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: in which he played college football to go run the
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: Tennessee Titans organization and run it in a competent manner
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: where people can trust it and it starts to produce
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: wins on the field. I'd love to see that for
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: Peyton Manning. But it's going to take a complete reset.
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: And I don't say this to shade Robert Sala or
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: anything else, but you've got to completely start over. I
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: don't care if you're one year into this. I mean,
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: they're headed for 0-17. And if they get anywhere close
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: to that, this is a one-and-done scenario.
• 33:08
  Speaker 8: Absolutely.
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: If you're going to be serious about, guys, we're going
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: to open a new stadium. We are going to get
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: this thing. There is no more, oh, we're going to
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: reset for a year or two. It is positive momentum
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: from here on out. It has to be. With whatever
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: we do as an organization, whether that be bring in
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: a veteran quarterback, draft another one, moving away from Cam Ward, obviously,
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: in this scenario, too. all the different things that they're
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: going to have to do. To be serious about that,
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: go bring in Peyton. Hutton, if they brought in Peyton
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: Manning and Peyton Manning fired all the coaches and hired
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: Will Stein from Kentucky, I'd be in heaven. Anything outside
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: the box. What if they hire Mike Tomlin? Absolutely.
• 33:48
  Speaker 8: Sign me up.
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: You could totally restructure your football organization back to being
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: a football organization.
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: Bring in some outfits is what I'm saying. Mike Tomlin
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: would be a great partner. Amy Adams-Strunk is one. Yeah,
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: and Mike Tomlin also has, in the Peyton Manning role,
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: or the Nick Saban role even, running the organization, not
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: just coaching.
• 34:06
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: If he didn't want to coach. I mean, yes, all
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: of these things need to happen. Now, you're dealing with
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: a lot of strong-willed, stubborn, rich people. Yeah, no doubt.
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: In this, too. And this is going to take Amy
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: Adams-Strunk firing the person who has been employed to take
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: shrapnel on her behalf. to do whatever she says, to
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: do her bidding, to be her eyes and ears. And
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: they have had to go through this self-imposed, by the way,
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: I'm not giving them excuses or anything else. It's a
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: disaster of their own making. But they've had to go
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: through this together. And now you're going to have to
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: turn that person and say, hey, we need a head here.
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: And it's going to be yours this time on the
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: chopping block because it's so bad. That's not an easy
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: situation for anyone, but it's what's got to happen. if
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: the fan base is going to trust this team at all.
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: And look, that Titans group there right now, I don't
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: know how much they really care, quite frankly, until they
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: start to show it. There's no doubt. She does care.
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: I mean, again, she couldn't have been faking it whenever
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: she's releasing these statements.
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: She fires people for failing fast.
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: This has been an insulated deal, and now she certainly
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: doesn't like– people not liking her or being embarrassed.
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: That's why she has this set up the way she
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: has it right now. This is an embarrassment.
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: Her name is now being mentioned again. No longer is
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: it about Callahan or Vrabel. It's about ownership, the real owner. Well,
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: let me clarify what I'm saying. He's the voice, but
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: he's not the owner.
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: There's one owner. She cares about winning and losing. She
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: wants to win. I'm not saying that she just is
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: okay with losing every single year and doing nothing but
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: losing and getting destroyed by the Texans. I'm saying I
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: don't know that she cares that the public has lost
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: faith in her and Burke Nihill. I don't know what
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: their level of care about nobody showing up to the
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: stadium or everybody in the city throwing their hands up
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: and saying, why would we support this? I don't know
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: how much she cares about that because they've got a
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: sweetheart deal to build a stadium that's going to print
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: money for them. They don't have to have a single
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: person in the seats. to make money. They're going to
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: make more money when it's a sellout and they're going
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: to make a lot more money doing that. But the
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: NFL is set up where they're going to make money
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: regardless of what they do to appease the market. And
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: I don't think you make decisions based solely on the
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: fan base being upset, but the fan base is right
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: in this instance. And if you lose the faith and
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: the goodwill of people that have supported that team for
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: years and years, you've lost a lot. And I don't
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: know how much they care about that. What they do
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: care about is their last name.
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: And the legacy of Bud Adams, the jerseys, going back
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: to the Oilers, the whole idea about setting up the,
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: I mean, he would be thrilled with this deal about
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: the stadium, just like Bredesen gave him the sweetheart deal
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: with the land and the current stadium, and doing it
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: after nearly just 30 years, roughly. The best way to
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: honor Bud Adams would be to bring a title, a
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: Lombardi trophy, underneath the roof, instead of having takeovers by
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: other fan bases, and not having nationally televised games. I mean,
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: they're going to open a stadium where– I mean, what
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: network wants them playing for a quarterback who can't pass
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: for 47 yards or whatever it is in the first half?
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: And you've got an offense that can't get a first down,
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: barely move the football. An offense that even Robert Sala
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: can't sit and point to when he's asked, what is
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: good about the– what do you like? He couldn't answer
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: it because he's being truthful. That's the way to– it
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: would be an embarrassment on the franchise and it's her
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: father's franchise. I think that does matter. And she's a
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: lot like him. She's, I mean, she's firing and she
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: loves firing. And up next is the guy has.
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: The voice, not the owner. She loves to fire people. Yeah,
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: I think so.
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I don't know who's going to
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: hand the phone to Burke, but it'll be somebody. Chad,
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: I want to talk to Ditka because you, You know,
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: you know, the SNL and everything that he was about
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: with his cultural.
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: Real quick before we get into that. Yeah, go ahead.
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: I was looking for this, this post, which is really good.
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: This is from a Michigan, it's Michigan podcast on Twitter. Okay.
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: And I'm going to relate this, the college stories related
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: to the Titans here. The Michigan podcast says LSU paid
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: over a hundred million dollars to get rid of Brian
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: Kelly to hire Lane Kiffin and assemble their roster only
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: to have a worse record now than it did last
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: year through six games. Penn State spent $ 50 million to
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: buy out James Franklin last season for losing to Northwestern
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: and starting 3-3, only to hire a coach who lost
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: even worse to Northwestern and they're starting the season 3-3.
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: Michigan has committed $ 43 million to Kyle Whittingham and Jason
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: Beck and $ 40 million to this year's roster, only to
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: have the exact same record it had last year, this time,
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: with Sharon Moore and an even worse offense. And the
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: moral of the story is, you know, be careful what
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: you wish for The grass isn't always greener. And I
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: know this is early snapshots of all these stories. So,
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: you know, that could be used as a cautionary tale
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: about the Titan situation, everything else. I'll say, though, with
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: the Titans and anybody who says, be careful what you
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: wish for, could be.
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: Worse, it couldn't.
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: It can't be worse than right now. There's no scenario
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: at 0-5 with one of the worst offenses in the
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: history of the NFL and a quarterback that's young and
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: a number one overall pick going nowhere. There's no situation
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: where it's worse. I truly believe that. You can't do
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: worse than Amy Adam Strunk and Burke Nihill are doing
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: right now. in that team, in that organization with this city.
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: So there are instances where, yeah, James Franklin probably got
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: a little trigger happy with him a year ago because
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: their expectations. And you could argue that maybe they should
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: have stuck with it and not paid the guy $ 50
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: million to not coach at that point. There are other
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: instances like that. Anything that you want done with this
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: organization in terms of new ownership or partial ownership that
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: you proposed out in with Saban or Anybody who comes
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: back and says, well, be careful what you wish for,
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: I truly believe it could not be worse. So try
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: anything different than what you're doing right now. Well, exactly.
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: So I love it because think about this.
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: The decision makers just hired a coach who's currently 20
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: and 41 as a head coach. The offensive coordinator, I
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: don't know exactly the deals of his contract, but they
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: certainly had to meet certain things in negotiation power that
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: Dable had because he could have gone other places. He
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: was sought after. I think it was a great hire
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: at the time. It's not working with this quarterback. And
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: the quarterback can't be benched. I don't know if Salah
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: could even try to... Again, I don't think the backup
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: quarterbacks would be great. I think it would be good.
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: I think he'll get first downs. That'll be better.
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: That'll be more entertaining than having to talk about the
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: death march over the next three months where, again, before Halloween,
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: here we are once again.
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: They beat the New York Giants, and I think they
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: beat the Philadelphia Eagles with Mitch Trubisky at quarterback. I
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: feel confident saying that. Mitch Trubisky would have beaten Jameis
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: Winston in that game where it's in the teens, and
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: all you have to do is not throw the ball
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: right to a safety– on the final drive. I think
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: they win that game, and I think the ability to
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: actually call a pass play inside the red zone, which
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: they were unwilling to do with Cam Ward against the Eagles,
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: probably wins you that game too. So all the Cam
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: Ward defenders have gone silent on my timeline and everyone else's.
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: And I'm not saying that Mitch Trubisky's a great quarterback
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: or anything else. And I'm not saying it's all Cam's fault.
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: But Cam is a huge part of the problem, and
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: he's not good enough just like most of that team's
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: not good enough. Shannon Sharp called him the worst quarterback
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: in the league. Okay, I like that. There we are.
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: It's not just the local media, the hostile local media
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: there as well.
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: Hey, how about this?
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: The 0-17 teams, the Browns and the Lions, at this
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: point in their seasons, their offense was better than this offense.
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: This is as low as it gets for a team
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: that could be on track for 0-17.
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: It can't happen. It can't happen. It also can't get worse.
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: People are like, are the Titans the Browns now? The
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: Titans are worse than the Browns, guys. They're worse than
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: the Jets. Right now. Yes. They are one of the
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: punchline franchises, not just in the NFL, in all of
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: pro sports right now. That's how bad the current state
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: is really since 2020. And that season, it's gotten progressively
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: worse year after year. Yep.
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: And you know the coach who's trying to keep his
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: job and refocus his head coaching legacy wants to do
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: something to shake things up. You try something. And he's
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: already been declared the quarterback for the rest of the season.
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: I don't know if something will happen because they've got
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: to change the game.
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: Wipe it out. Clean house.
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: Or clean out the garage. How about that? Chad, hard
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  Speaker 1: rock bet coming up. And we take a look at
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: the SEC. Storylines of the SEC with some quarterbacks who
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: may be playing, may not be playing. And some matchups,
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: including ours, that include some top-notch players who are also
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: ruled out.
• 43:19
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• 43:49
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• 43:50
  Speaker 1: It's time for the SEC power lineup as we look
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: around at the spreads, the opening lines across the Southeastern Conference.
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: We see the over-unders.
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: You see the lines in purple there for Hard Rock Bet. Chad,
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: we've got some great ones. And even the teams that
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: are coming off losses, the storylines are really, really fascinating
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: this week, including this week, Alabama and Tennessee.
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and that Alabama-Tennessee line keeps going up and up.
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: I know. In favor of Alabama. I think it's going
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: to be double digits, possibly, by the time the game
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: kicks off on Saturday. Auburn and Georgia, that's a big line.
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: It is.
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: Georgia coming off that big win. I'm tempted to take
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: the Tigers to cover, and they're going to lose. But
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: I don't know that they get blown out by Georgia
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: in that game. Missouri-Old Miss, fascinating to me. Vandy, only
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: a six-and-a-half point favorite at home. against Arkansas. Kind of
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: tells you a lot about where both those programs are
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: right now. And then Kentucky going on the road to Oklahoma. Look,
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: I think Kentucky's a better football team than Oklahoma is
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: right now. Even though Oklahoma just beat Texas, but Kentucky
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: coming off that big win, are they going to be
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: the next team that rides the emotional high of the
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: big win to a big loss the following week? It's
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: a good week across the league. Absolutely. You've got LSU
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: coming off a loss.
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: And Missouri-Ole Miss, let's target that because Ole Miss, five
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: and a half, I would have thought maybe three and
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: a half. You mentioned you're not going to sleep on
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: Missouri anymore. I tend to agree. I feel like Vegas
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: doesn't really believe in them that much right now based
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: on Ole Miss. And again, I think Missouri is proving
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: everybody wrong.
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: I love Mississippi State. I love Kamario Taylor. But when
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: you mix in that Kamario Taylor may not be playing
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: on Saturday, there's questions about him even playing. I'm going
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: to pounce on that number for LSU right now. before
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: it goes up when he's officially not playing. I think
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: LSU is going to go back to Baton Rouge and
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: beat Mississippi State soundly in that game.
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: Hey, what happens when the line continues to go up
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: for Alabama even without their star receiver?
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: That's also a point of emphasis here. Yeah. Look, and
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: I don't know. This is kind of, you know, people,
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: what does Vegas know about it? But I just think
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: Alabama's offense has been light years better than Tennessee's. I
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: did see a stat today, though, that Alabama's only allowed
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: one less sack than Tennessee, which would surprise some people
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: with all the issues. Face-to-face, I got sacked, what, 11
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: times or 10 times in one game against Texas? It's
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: only one behind. And Tennessee leads the nation in sacking
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: the opponent by two. They've got 25 sacks. LSU's second
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: at 23 sacks on the season. So, I mean, something
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: to watch. Can Tennessee get to Keelan Russell and affect
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: the game that way? Because Alabama's had a hard time
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: keeping him upright this season as well.
• 46:46
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: Colin Williams ruled out there.
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: So, you know, a good player not playing, but Alabama's
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: got the better players right now just based on how
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: the team overall is performing.
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: I don't think it's that different, like, talent-wise, man-for-man. I
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: think Alabama and Tennessee are very similar. I just think
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: their offense– Tennessee just doesn't have a passing game right now.
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: They don't have a coherent offense where you can feel
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: good about one thing's going to open up the other
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: in the game. It's just so lopsided run game right now,
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: if they're going to be successful, that they've got to
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: find a way to open up the passing game. I'm
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: watching the All-22 and still shots of what Arkansas was
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: doing to Tennessee in that game, and it was just,
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: let's put seven, eight guys in the box, man-to-man on
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: the two receivers on the outside, and they had one
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: safety 40 yards off the line of scrimmage. That's how
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: they picked off that one George McIntyre. If Tennessee's not
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: going to come up with something to throw slants and
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: get the ball over the middle of the field with
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: all that open room, with everyone crowding the line of scrimmage,
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: then they're not going to move the ball. Hey, agreed.
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: Very conservative on the road. Will they open things up
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: at home? The game plan cannot be the same. They're
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: going to have to strike some big plays. And another point,
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: they have to keep their cool and be disciplined.
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: I brought this up with Timmy B.
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: You see the difference between Georgia and Bama on the
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: field in this game because one player loses his cool
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: and costs Alabama the game. But, well, it costs them
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: a possession to go win the game. Chad, Tennessee can't
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: have those here, the personal fouls and stuff. And I'm
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: not saying they would, but Alabama will give you one.
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: And if you get it at the right time, it's
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: huge in the game. And I think in the game
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: we went to in 2022, they had a couple. Yeah, no,
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: it's certainly going to be a factor. And penalties are
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: always a factor with Josh Heupel teams, too. They typically
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: commit a lot, but.
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: It's a lot of procedural stuff and things like that
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: not getting set properly. Yeah, you're right. You usually see that,
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: so that's a big point. By the way, I'm at
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: hard rock right now. LSU up to 14.5 point favorite
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: over Mississippi State, and I think that's surrounding the news
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: of Kamario Taylor. That's the current line right now is
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: LSU is a 14.5 point favorite over Mississippi State on Saturday. Yeah, the–
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: I think they respond a lot better than what we
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: saw this past week. Another line of interest, Hutton. You're MTSU,
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: Blue Raiders. They're a one-and-a-half-point underdog at home to Delaware.
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: Take Delaware. The Blue Hens. Reminds me of the Wayne's
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: World pitch. where they've got the green screen behind them,
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: and it's Delaware. It's, hi, I'm in Delaware. That's all
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: they need to say about the state. And now Delaware
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: is coming to Murfreesboro as a road favorite. How about that?
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: I'm going to take the Hens. Take the Hens. I
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: hate saying that. Take the fighting Joe Flacos.
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: I have zero– I told a host of a program
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: I joined to talk about the Titans on a radio
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: show about this, Greg Poe and McFarlane. I haven't talked
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: about or been asked about MTSU in like three years.
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: You know, like I'm expecting them to lose. And the
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: fact that, you know, they're going to play in the
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: middle of the week or whatever they're playing.
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  Speaker 3: Disaster. Disaster. How is there not another James Madison? There's
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: no rival to James Madison who found a way to
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: raise money, to have an infrastructure in place, to blow
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: everybody else out of the water at that level in
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: terms of what they invest in their roster and in
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: facilities and everything else. And I know it's got a
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: good alumni base and all of that, but I just
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: wish there was more of that. I want to be
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: interested in that group of teams a little bit more
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: than I am, and I wish somebody else could rise
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: with that.
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: Locally, they should recruit locally. Get the non-Power 5 or
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: whatever recruits. Those guys are still pretty good and can
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: compete with the other non-Power 5 players across that conference.
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: Chad, as we wrap up, RIP to RJ Mitty.
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: We bring this up because you and I are massive,
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: as others are, massive fans of Breaking Bad.
• 50:56
  Speaker 3: I will always, I'll go binge that show right now again.
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: My favorite. And he's one of the memorable characters and
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: fit it perfectly for what was needed for the Walter
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: White role.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and an actor who opened up a lot of
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: doors for people actually with disabilities and issues with cerebral
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: palsy as an actor in that role. Yeah, R.I.P.
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  Speaker 2: For sure.
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: 34 years old, dies of suicide. I saw the tribute
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: from Bryan Cranston where he said, we were texting last
• 51:27
  Speaker 3: week about finding a time to grab lunch together. You know,
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: when they were in the same town in L.A. or
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: wherever they were. And he said, you know, I don't
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: I don't know if that would have kept him alive,
• 51:38
  Speaker 3: you know, and whatever's going on. But I sure wish
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: we would have had time to grab lunch. I could
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: have talked to him in that moment. So very, very sad.
• 51:46
  Speaker 3: And I'll say this Breaking Bad, obviously one of our
• 51:49
  Speaker 3: all time favorites. El Camino, the follow up movie I loved. Also,
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: it popped up on my Netflix algorithm yesterday, probably with
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: the news. of this passing to go back and watch
• 51:59
  Speaker 3: that movie that I loved that followed up from Breaking Bad.
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: Better Call Saul, and I don't know if you ever
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: watched it, but by the end of it was almost
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: as good as Breaking Bad. I mean, it was right there.
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: That's how good those two shows. For a spinoff to
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: be that good is pretty incredible work by Vince Gilligan
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: and everybody associated with that show that created it originally.
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: We had a podcast about it, Breaking Down, Breaking Bad. Yep,
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: we do.
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: We should do that with a show that is coming
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: out or something or a series or something.
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: We re-watched The Wire. Remember that during COVID? Yeah. Because
• 52:32
  Speaker 3: we just had all this time on our hands and
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: we'd never seen it and everybody talked about it.
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: So we broke down season by season of The Wire.
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: We should find that. We could do it with the
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: whole crew. That would work out. So we've got plenty
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: to discuss as the week rolls on. The matchups in
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: college football. NFL, we just see the Bills win. Some
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: really major gaffes as well with coaching decisions. Massive implications
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: with those, including in the NFL and college football. We'll
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: get to that as well. Chad, thank you, man. Great
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: backdrop today. Enjoy the weather.
• 53:06
  Speaker 3: Enjoy the time with family and the company and go
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: hit the beach. Beautiful. I'm about to go for my
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: nice beach walk right now to start the day, Hutton.
• 53:15
  Speaker 3: And I hope everybody out there has a great day
• 53:16
  Speaker 3: also and that your backdrop is as lovely as mine.
• 53:19
  Speaker 3: Sprint into the waves the way I've seen you do
• 53:21
  Speaker 3: it before.
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: Just take off. Just straight into it. Straight into it.
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: He's Chad Withrow. I'm Jonathan Hutton. Thanks for joining us
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: for the next round. Straight ahead right here on the
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