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TSA, Easter Takes, Missing Gifts, & Mild Presidential Panic · Rik and that Michele Chick

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Welcome to Rick and That Michelle Chick, the weekly
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podcast where your hosts, Rick and Michelle, confidently dive
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into topics they know absolutely nothing about and somehow make
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it sound legit. They're not experts.
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They're not qualified. Honestly, they barely googled
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it. So grab a drink, lower your
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expectations, and let's pretend this counts as content.
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So buckle up. Facts are optional, but the
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bullshit? That's premium grade.
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This is Rick and that Michelle chick.
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I am back from San Diego. Welcome back, welcome, welcome
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back. Thank you, the trip was fun.
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The weather was good. Weather was like upper 60s lower
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70s. I got to go to the spa one day
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so that was nice coming home, getting through TSA in San
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Diego, easy breezy which we are pre-check and it took which
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pre-check was open. It took us 8 minutes to get
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through security and we got there like 2 hours early because
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we were afraid. But also by the time we came
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home, that was Thursday. And so every the TSA had started
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to get paid and they had got back pay.
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And so all that was kind of working itself out.
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But I did see some of the stanchions in the San Diego
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airport, like coming all the way up the little sky walks, and it
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had little signs, like for what gates?
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So obviously at one point in time, it was crazy and people
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were lined up outside, which I cannot even imagine.
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So yeah, it was good. Leaving though, you know, we fly
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out of, we flew out of Yakima. Sometimes we fly out of Pasco.
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It just really depends. But we flew out of Yakima and
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you know, we always have to go to Seattle.
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We don't have a choice in Yakima.
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That's the only thing we the only option we have.
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And our flight had mechanical issues.
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Of course it did. Yes.
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So it was 3 hours late getting here, which they finally just
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brought a new plane, which I'm kind of thankful for.
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But then of course, we missed our connecting flight in Seattle
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to San Diego. And so then that is just a
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cascade of events that is a pain in the ass.
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But luckily we made it to San Diego.
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I think we finally made it to San Diego at like 11:30 PM, and
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we were supposed to leave Yakima at on that 2:30 PM flight.
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So wow. Yeah, we had been in the airport
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all damn day. So yeah, but we made it there.
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You were ready for that that trip to be done.
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Yeah, I was ready to go to the spa by that point and I was
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like, yeah, just. Now, did you stay I, I since
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it's been a couple weeks, did you stay the entire week?
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We were there Sunday through Thursday night, so.
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Nice. OK.
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So it's a good, that's a good long while.
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Yeah, normally we would stay till Friday, but because of
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Easter, we came home Friday, Thursday night.
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So yeah. Do you?
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Do you celebrate Easter? I mean we OK in those curious,
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how do you OK frame celebrating Easter to me?
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Like, do you mean like do I go to church or do we do like a
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family thing and Easter egg and Easter Bunny?
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No, you don't go to church because you'd go up in flames if
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you walked into church. So I get, I understand that.
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No, I, it's just. Fascinating you're 1 to talk.
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Yeah, I mean, I got, Yeah, trust me.
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I don't know. It's it's one of those things
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where it fascinates me because funny thing is Patty, my morning
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to a partner. She, she makes her husband and
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he's 65 years old. She makes him a basket.
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Are you serious? Yeah, all these different, all
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these different things. And so and, and not, I don't
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think she necessarily goes to church, but but she celebrates
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Easter in a big, in a big way, so.
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Well, I mean, we do still do the kids.
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And when I say kids like they're adults, yeah, we still do Easter
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baskets for them and even Benjamin and Haley, who now have
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a baby. Well, of course.
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Obviously, like the baby gets an Easter basket, but yeah,
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normally that's what we do. We do the Easter baskets.
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Jackson and Shaylee colored Easter eggs because Jackson was
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home. And by celebrating Easter, we
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have a big family Easter celebration at our house,
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luckily. Like dinner and stuff like that.
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Yeah, yeah, it luckily it's potluck.
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Everybody brings something and then we have a little kid Easter
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egg hunt for like, so that's like the plastic eggs with
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quarters and candy in them. Then we have like bigger kid
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Easter egg, you know, like the ones that are, I'm too big to
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hunt Easter eggs with the little kids, but yet, you know, you can
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tell they would still kind of like to do it.
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And so we do 1 golden egg for them and they each egg has $20
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in it, but they only get to find one.
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And so we do that. Then we do the adult Easter egg.
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This is the bigger eggs and we put the little bottles of
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alcohol lottery tickets, gummies and then there's one special egg
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that has $100 bill in it. And so the adults, I think the
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adults go Cray Cray over the adults are funnier to watch in
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the Easter egg hunt than than the kids because they are just
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competitive and funny. So and you've.
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Been doing this this celebration for years.
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Yeah, yeah. And then we have.
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Have you seen those confetti eggs at Walmart where you crack
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them open and confetti falls all over becoming like carton?
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And I started getting these years ago and the kids loved it
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because they were able to smash them on the adults heads.
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And now I feel like the adults get into it even more than the
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kids, which is probably because we take out our anger on each
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other with these eggs by cracking them on, chasing each
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other around the guard. And so so yeah, that is the
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gamut of the festivities that happen at our house.
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So yeah, it's a lot of fun and. But your mom doesn't go to
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church or any of that kind of stuff.
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I don't think she went to church, no.
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I mean, my grandma would have gone to church, which probably
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probably Easter service would be my least favorite because it was
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so long, you know, it would be so long.
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Everybody would get communion where Christmas Eve.
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I loved Christmas Eve's service because you had the candles and
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anyway, so. I think it, I think it's
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interesting being. I think it's interesting and
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fascinating being. But Jay and I don't do baskets
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for each other. I know we still do them for the
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kids, but. But you're not.
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Would you consider yourself a non religious person?
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To some degree, I mean I I want to believe, but I also want
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there to be more proof. OK so so I'm not atheist but.
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So you're I'm an I'm. Kind of on, yeah, I'm kind of on
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the fence. I'm an I'm an agnostic.
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I I believe anything's possible. Yes, I'm I'm just on the fence
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about it. OK at.
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This point but it but it's just it's just interesting because
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not not that Easter can't just be a fun holiday right to have
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to do to do eggs and and candy and all that fun stuff, but
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isn't it? Would you not consider it a
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predominantly religious? Oh, definitely.
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Yeah, of. Course.
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Because Good Friday. Yeah, You know.
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The dogs are saying yes, it's a religious.
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Do the. Do the dogs get Easter baskets?
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No, no, we, no, we now that Kyron, what?
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Kyron is going to be 23 years old, I think 23.
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We haven't done a, he hasn't had anything in like 5 years.
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Megan doesn't I was going to ask you what now that we just talked
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about my Easter celebration, like what is what is it like in
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your household? Like Kyron doesn't get a basket
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or Nope you don't color. Megan doesn't make you all color
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Easter eggs or. No, it's been, it's, I want to
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say it's been years. I can't, you know, it's one of
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those things where, yeah, there's there's nothing.
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There was nothing going on. I think that we spent the day.
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Megan spent the day doing yard. Work.
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So it's just another day for you, is what you're saying?
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Yeah, I mean, it hadn't been, I mean, as a kid, of course, my
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foster parents were religious or whatever.
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So I mean, it's like I've had my fair, I've had my fair shares of
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Easter. One thing, and this is not to
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get off course, but I'll just do a quick jab at it, I did not
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like that in our building at in in Yakima, they had picked Good
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Friday as one of our holidays. Well, I don't remember that.
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Yeah, they'd pick Good Friday as one because you you get to pick
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9 holidays. Great.
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So yeah, I remember that. I remember them trying to decide
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which holidays were going to. Be on the calendar and it's
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like, well, I'm not religious, so why would I want Good Friday
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to be one of my holidays? I mean well.
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And why wouldn't you? I would pick like the day after
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Easter, you know, to me. I just didn't, I just didn't
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like the fact that they picked Good Friday as a, as a holiday
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for me because it's like, it's like, because it's like, I don't
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know, it's just not for me. It's just not a holiday.
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I mean, I get it as a holiday. Don't get me wrong.
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It's a holiday. I understand that.
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But, but I'm saying that that I didn't like the fact that that
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the powers that be just pick that as my holiday.
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Great. Well, what if I want Martin
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Luther King Junior Day because our company, our company did not
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and still does not today recognize Martin Luther King
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Junior Day as a holiday. Now this is what changed in our
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company is you're now allowed two personal days, so so of the
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holidays that you have. So then you get to pick.
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Yeah, yeah. So, so you do have the company,
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you know, and Good Friday's not one of them anymore, but it used
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to be. So if you want to take Martin
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Luther King Junior Day, you could do that.
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If you want to take Good Friday, those are your personal days and
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you can take that. Normally I use my personal day
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for my birthday and for my anniversary.
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So it just. Depends on where things fall,
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but but yes, I always it's not and it's not and it definitely
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not against religion. I just didn't like the fact that
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somebody picked the holiday. Wouldn't you, would you be upset
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if someone said, you know, hey, we're going to we're going to
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celebrate your, your, your holiday.
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We're going to tell you what the holiday you're going to take.
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Right. Because it's not not, it's not
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the same for like Ramadan or Hanukkah or any of that.
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Like those holidays aren't getting the equal treatment and
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they're all still religious holidays.
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But yeah, I don't think for the most part Easter outside of
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Logan being young or Kyron being young, those that's it.
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I mean, since those, since those days are long gone, it's like
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it's really weird. So it's weird to be around
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people who talk about Easter and the big Easter celebration and
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all these things they're doing on Easter because, yeah, not
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doing any of that. So you don't even get like ham.
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You don't even get like a special dinner.
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No, my gosh, you, you did not if my wife cooks well.
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Don't get yourself in. Trouble.
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No, it's no, it's, it's it's she doesn't she, I mean, not that
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she can't. She's a she's a great cook, but
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what is it so Christmas, Christmas dinner will have ham.
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She she like, she prefers ham over Turkey.
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She hates, she hates the fact that I want Turkey for
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Thanksgiving. Oh, I do both for Thanksgiving
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because. You do have the.
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Ham. You know the ham camp and then
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you have the Turkey camp. But for Easter I only do ham
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because it's just too much work. Right, right.
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For me. So for me, Thanksgiving, you
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know, being my favorite holiday because I think we need, I think
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it's the human race. We need to be grateful.
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And that's that's my favorite. So, yeah.
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So Easter, I don't know it just Easter kind of goes by the
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wayside. So I'm glad you had a good
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Easter. Something, well, it sounds like
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an amazing celebration. Yeah, it was a.
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Lot, but it's not. But it's not based in religion.
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You just have an Easter celebration.
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Got it. It's just about it's more about
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the all the family being together and having fun
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together. Now it's.
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Just like, no, OK, so I gotta, I gotta shore this up.
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So family being together, are you talking your immediate
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family or you're talking cousins and uncles and aunts and whoever
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comes over, Jim, Jim Bob, Ellenberg or whoever comes over?
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Yes, yeah. Everyone is invited.
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So yeah, like Jay's aunt and then her kids come over and wow,
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yeah, it's my brother, my mom, Jay's mom, Yeah.
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Awesome. I'm glad.
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I'm glad you had a good celebration.
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That's cool. Who?
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Who? Who?
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Who gives the 100 bucks? It's going to be you, right?
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Yes, yes, of. Course it is.
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Of course it is. Yeah, yeah.
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No one else, no one else is divvying up the 100.
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No one else is getting 100 bucks out of their wallet.
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I mean, there would be other people that would probably chip
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in, but we don't mind. It's fine.
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So the kids love it. Now that we've started doing it,
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everybody looks forward to it. I get.
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It and so now I can't be like, I don't, I mean, I'm sure someone
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else will pick it up at the same time.
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It's like it's just easier for everyone to come here so.
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I get it. I get it where Megan goes
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camping, one of the families there does a massive 4th of July
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celebration campground and anybody's invited.
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Technically, yeah. So, so I get, I understand that
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it's a tradition. It's a tradition.
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Yeah, yeah. And also, since we you touched
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on the radio station, I finally got some floating shelves and a
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bookcase. It's not done yet, but Jay put
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up my floating shelves so I could unpack all my radio stuff.
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Remember all the shit that I had in the corner?
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Yeah, in the studio. Memorabilia.
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Sure. Yes, my do.
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You have a Tim McGraw gold album.
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Tim McGraw gold the album, right?
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Yeah. But so I was unpacking my stuff
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to put it up on my shelves, and I realized that when I had
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packed up my stuff at the radio station, the Tim McGraw and
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Faith Hill Barbie that you gave me was not there.
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It is not in my stuff. So it wasn't there when I went
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back to pack up stuff. And I didn't realize it at the
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time because I was just packing up my shit.
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And so I don't know what happened to it.
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I think maybe while I was gone. I don't know if somebody took it
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or gave it away. I don't know if my then morning
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show partner at the time did something with it.
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Probably gave it to his daughters.
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He hated all the stuff in my corner.
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Oh yeah. So it wouldn't surprise me, but
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I was like, Oh my God, like my, I'm like, where is it?
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And then I was in my mind, I'm like, I don't think it was there
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when I packed up my stuff. So anyway, I thought that was
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horrible and I was upset about it, but.
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Oh man. What do I do now?
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I can't be like, hey, did you take my whatever, whatever, you
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know? Probably long forgotten about it
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too. Probably.
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I mean, he would deny it anyway, even if right, even if he did
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something. With so do you got yourself a
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nice little? Do you have yourself a nice
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little radio or building a nice little radio section?
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I mean, yes, I do have not necessarily like all radio
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stuff. Remember you got me the the
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Alexandra Skarsgard autograph picture.
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I like that in my like Eric Northman, Funko Pop, sure, I'm
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kind of being picky about what I put up there.
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So it's not great. Otherwise it would be so
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cluttered there wouldn't be room for anything.
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But yeah, so. Yeah, I was so so my man cave,
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I've got the Mr. Mr. ticket stub.
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I've got the the Batman neon thing that you got me years ago.
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Oh, yeah. I still have my action figure
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that's that's roaming around that looks like that looks like
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me. Bodhi did get his arm, so I'm
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not happy about that. So he's injured.
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They got him. Bodie got him.
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So I was not, I was it Bodie or Barkley?
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No. Maybe at least.
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At least just an arm and not your face or.
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Something right? No, My face is still good.
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I'm, you know, you know, I don't, I don't.
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I My action figure has seen better days.
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Bodie. No.
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Oh, Bodie got my action figure. And then there was this monkey
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that my mom made for me. And it's one-of-a-kind.
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And sadly, Barkley got it. So I'm I if I can ever run into
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a seamstress, I wanted to try to repair the monkey so but his
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face has been like, I do have a the lot.
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The good news, I have a photo of the monkey and they might be
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able to replicate the monkey. I've still got the body, it's
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just missing a lot of stuff. So is it kind of like the sock
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monkey? Yeah, it's a sock monkey.
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That we all had very little, yeah.
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Well, it was interesting. So my mother, my real mom, my
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real mom, Lorinda wasn't an amazing seamstress.
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Now, she didn't do it very often.
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So when we were kids, she'd make us pillows and blankets and all
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these different things that were absolutely amazing.
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And so when my brother Steven got married about 10-15 years
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ago, probably been 15 years ago, my mother presented me with this
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sock monkey and, and it made everybody else in the family
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very upset because my mom does not do these things or she had
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not done them in many years. And so, and then after the sock
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monkey, she never made, I don't know if it was arthritis, I
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don't know what it was, but my mom never, never made another,
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another thing. And so my brothers and sisters,
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my nephews, my nieces, they, it wasn't even about my brothers
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and sisters, but they were upset that their nephews and nieces
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didn't get things made by my mom.
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But I do have this monkey that I need to repair just because it,
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you know, Yeah, my my mom made it for me.
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So and my mom, my mom never lied.
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She said I was her favorite. I was good.
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I was just going to say you obviously were the favorite, so.
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I was her well. I was the executor of her will.
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Right. So, so my sister, my sister's
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older, but yeah, I mean, and I don't think it was, I don't
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think in I don't know, I don't know.
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I mean, I don't think that it was any in particular reason.
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I don't know why necessarily I was her favorite, but she felt I
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was the most responsible, right. And so I think that's why So
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this but anyway, or, and some people do say I'm I was always
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your favorite. I don't, you know that that is
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that's kind of been a point of contention with my siblings.
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Yeah, that's crazy. That mom, that mom like that mom
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liked me best. But I don't, I mean, she didn't
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necessarily. I think she said it.
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I think she did. She said it.
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That makes it worse, I know. Like.
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I think she said it jokingly, but.
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Right, but this, but you as the child don't take it as a joke.
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Like, you know, like there's some real meaning.
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They were adults when she said I was.
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Her friend, but yeah. She even then they can't use
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their childhood trauma that they already has, you know?
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They had enough trauma. I don't think you need to add to
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to that with who's the favorite, but yeah.
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I don't know. I don't know but.
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Jay and his yeah, Jay and his sister always fight over who's
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the favorite with his mom, and obviously he is.
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And then as the kids got older, when they stopped believing in
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Santa, then I would say like to try and get them to do stuff.
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Well, you know, like you'll be my favorite if you which I
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probably shouldn't have done that looking back now.
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But right. I mean it.
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Got hey, there's no, there's no perfect parenting plan.
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There's no perfect parenting. Plan it got them to do things
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and so that is the joke now obviously Benjamin is the
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favorite is what they all say and then in my.
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It's got to, it's got to be hard having four kids because, OK,
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I'm not saying that do OK that. I mean, this is probably good
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for another podcast down the road.
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OK. But, but do parents really have
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their favorite? I do believe they do.
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They may not. They may not say it.
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Yeah, they may not say it, But I think every parent has a
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favorite. Yes, and in different and each
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child is different in different ways your favorite like
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depending on what it is because some some kids might have your
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same sense of humor and so that might be the connection that you
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have and you can joke back and forth and.
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And other kids might be like you are the responsible one and
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other it just depends on the child and it could be they could
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be a favorite on whatever it is that you have that connection
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with them. I.
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Think it's, I think it's fascinating only by the fact
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that so I have Kyron, my stepson, that I have Logan, my
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son, and it's like, and I don't I so Logan when I met Megan, I
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think Logan was what, 1314 maybe probably something like that.
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Chiron was 5. So there's nine years difference
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between Chiron and Logan and there's nine years difference
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between Megan and I. But when it comes to our boys, I
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mean, it's not that. I mean, it's like, I think it's
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hard to explain. I think it's interesting that
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people who say that they, that so you have a non biological
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child and then you have a biological child.
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I, I cannot, I, I have to assume you have to favor the biological
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child to some extent. So, so Logan's my son.
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So Logan's my son, you know, before Kyron came around.
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It doesn't mean I don't love Kyron.
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It's not that I don't love Kyron, but Logan's my son and I
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also think the same way about Megan, Megan, Megan, Kyron is
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Megan's son, right? So it's not that we treated the
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boys any differently, but they are treated differently, yes,
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because my relationship with Kyron is different than my
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relationship with Logan. They're not the same and Megan's
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relationship with Logan is different than my relationship.
21:35
Yes. So so it's like I don't and I
21:38
don't call that favorites, but but is it because, but is it
21:40
because we're it was mixed later?
21:43
Not, you know, they didn't start off at the same time like they
21:45
both work the same age. That's probably part of it and
21:49
then part of it, like you said, it is because of that's just how
21:54
you guys have felt or about your own child compared to the others
21:59
child. Because I know people that, but
22:03
a lot of times this the other the parent is not involved in
22:07
the child's life. And so then that the dad or
22:10
stepdad becomes the dad in place of the missing real dad.
22:15
And so a lot of times they take then they feel like that is
22:20
really their child. So I think it just depends on
22:22
you as the step parent in the relationship and how you feel
22:28
about the child. Yeah, it was hard to, yeah, it
22:31
was hard to navigate because for me, I, I, I took it from the
22:34
point of view that that Kyron has a dad.
22:36
He does. His dad's name is Jeff.
22:37
He has a dad. And so for the most part, 99%.
22:41
So you are not trying to be Kyron's real dad?
22:44
You're not trying to replace him, no.
22:46
I think Megan, I think there's times where Megan's been upset
22:49
or now that he's an adult now it doesn't matter.
22:51
But but when he was a teenager and she was struggling through
22:53
the teens and he was, you know, slamming the door and, you know,
22:57
doing things that teenagers do, she, I think there was points
23:00
where she really wanted me to step in and I I would try, but I
23:04
really didn't have that authority.
23:05
I. Was going to say it wouldn't be
23:07
your place necessarily. Yeah, I mean, she, I mean, yeah,
23:12
I mean well. And our relationship's
23:13
different, you know what I'm saying?
23:14
So when I met Kyra when he was five years old, he goes.
23:17
He goes, what do you want me to call you?
23:19
I said, well, you can call him. You can call me Rick, or you can
23:22
call me Dad. And he decided, well, guess
23:25
what? He decided to call me.
23:26
I'm Rick. I'm Rick now, so.
23:29
That's the definition of your relationship with him then.
23:32
I think so. It's one of and, but, but I
23:34
never, but I never tried to, never tried to take that spot,
23:39
or at least I I just never felt it was my mission.
23:41
Now, on the flip side of Logan, that's a very bad situation over
23:47
there because his stepfather Marty tried, you know, and, and
23:53
the things that that Marty said about me, like your dad's a
23:56
piece of shit, he's late. I mean, all these things.
23:59
And my son and my son rebelled against that.
24:03
And so I remember, I remember many years ago and in
24:06
Bakersfield or I was in, wherever I was at, I got a call
24:09
from Pokey and she was like, Hey, you need to talk to your
24:11
son. And I said, well, what's going
24:13
on? And he goes, he goes, Logan spit
24:15
in Marty's face. And and so, me being the dad, of
24:19
course I giggled. That's I mean.
24:23
Like, well, that's what. I do.
24:25
Yeah, exactly right. Right, Exactly, exactly.
24:29
And so for me, any fear that he was going to take my spot right
24:34
was like once I once I heard well, Logan spit in his face.
24:37
I'm like, well, there, that's so they had a really horrific
24:39
release. They did.
24:40
They just had a horrific relationship, but it was because
24:43
Marty was very shades of the Wallaces, like he was going to
24:47
he was going to lead by fear, by physical abuse, you know what
24:51
I'm saying? I mean, and he did and he did.
24:53
And Logan to this day has a, you know, he's 31, going to be 32,
24:56
has a just just, you know, it's not a good relationship.
24:58
It never has been because he already took the Wallace's
25:03
route. Like, well, I, your parents and
25:05
almost, you know, a domineering, you know, you'll kneel, you know
25:09
what I'm saying, You'll do. What I say?
25:11
Right, and and so and that's definitely not my, that wasn't
25:14
my parenting style for sure. And so we still have a little
25:17
bit of that in the relationship because Pokey, even though my
25:21
son's 3132, you know, pokey still is, can be resentful of
25:25
that relationship because she's like, go talk to your father.
25:28
He walks on water to you anyway, you know, and Logan has just
25:32
said that more so when we've had that conversation, he says, I
25:35
just treated him like a a person.
25:38
Logan and Logan went through a time Logan went through a a
25:41
teenage rebellious. We had some we had some, you
25:44
know, throw down stuff that happened when he was a teenager,
25:47
but but nowhere near the level of what is mom and Marty in that
25:52
particular situation. So I, I, I, I just think it's I,
25:56
I think it's absolutely fascinating in terms of the
25:58
dynamics. And then you say what, you know,
26:00
can do parents have favorites? I I will, you know, I do believe
26:04
they have. I mean, you know, I mean, but
26:06
like you said, I like what you said.
26:08
I mean each kid probably for for other reasons, Yeah.
26:11
Yeah, you know, and now I joke that Haley is my favorite.
26:13
Because yes, there you go. That gets you off the hook.
26:16
Yeah. That gets you off the hook, you
26:18
know, But I always thought if I had if I had multiple of my own
26:22
bloodline, I I'm sure there would have been different ways.
26:26
I asked, I asked Megan recently. I said we maybe we should have a
26:29
kid together and she's like, no. She was like shut you down.
26:36
She hates. The fact she hates that idea.
26:38
So I met I met Megan when she was 28, so.
26:41
She could have had more kids. She was, she was 2829.
26:44
She was young enough, right? And she says, and the reason she
26:48
goes, the reason why she wanted to marry me or or or or is with
26:52
me is because I did I well, I was fixed.
26:55
You know I was. I mean, you could have had it
26:57
reversed, so it's not like 10. Grand or some crazy number.
27:01
I don't want this. I didn't want something that
27:03
bad. You know you don't.
27:04
Want to spend that kind of money?
27:06
No, not for not now. Well now, now realizing I'm not
27:10
going to have grandbabies. Now you're second guessing that.
27:13
Now I'm now I'm like son of I should have had, I should have
27:18
had a girl Logan, because because I, I feel betrayed.
27:21
I feel totally like, and it's not I get it.
27:23
I get it. It's not your kids job to have
27:25
grandkids for you. I get it, you know, and, and
27:29
maybe that's just being selfish on my part.
27:31
And I'll be the first to say it's, it's selfish.
27:34
I think part of it is it's selfish and it's like, it's like
27:39
the dream that we have for our children, that kind of thing.
27:42
Like we dream of seeing them with their kids.
27:45
And so it's us that has to get over that because they were,
27:48
they're, they're good with whatever it is they've decided
27:51
so. I know it's, it's, but yeah.
27:53
And, and, you know, it's one of the, yeah, it's I, I think for
27:56
me, I think the reason is because of my own childhood,
28:01
right? You know, it, there was a lot, a
28:03
lot of parts of that was unsatisfactory.
28:05
And so, so, so the reason why I have the, or at least I would
28:08
like to think the reason why I have the bond with Logan is
28:10
because my dad and I, my real dad and I didn't have, I mean,
28:14
not to say we didn't have a bond, but, but there I didn't
28:17
have that relationship with my father, my real father, you
28:20
know. And so, so to me, I yearned for
28:23
that with Logan, to have this great relationship with Logan.
28:26
And then and then for me, it's like, oh, Logan's going to have
28:29
a son and that and that relationship continued because
28:32
I'm going to be awake. I'd be awake for.
28:34
What's that? He could have a daughter if he
28:36
was going to have kids. I know, but a but a grand, a
28:39
grandbaby or whatever, I I felt that I felt like and you already
28:42
know I'd be a great grandfather. Oh yeah, you would.
28:45
Yeah, totally. Why would you not?
28:47
Why would you not want me as your grandma?
28:48
Grandpa, we're. Going to go to Comic Con, yeah?
28:50
Yeah, we're going to do everything.
28:52
What? You we're going, we're going to
28:53
Disney World. What are you talking about now,
28:55
you know. Oh, you're not invited, though.
28:57
I'm kidding. But so.
28:59
Yeah. So it's one of those those those
29:01
things I think we see ourselves. We do.
29:04
You cannot. You say you don't see yourself
29:06
and your kids. Yeah.
29:08
And you know you want the best one.
29:10
Yes. And like you said, especially
29:12
for us, those of us that grow up in not great homes, we, we want
29:18
to, we want, we a, we want to parent them different.
29:22
Like we want to be completely opposite of how we were raised.
29:25
And it's almost like we try to relive our childhood through
29:30
them in a better way. So it's a.
29:34
Couple of. Things a couple of different
29:36
things are going are happening for us when we are parenting.
29:40
And we're not just talking like materialistic things.
29:42
I'm just talking just in general.
29:44
So to me, it was always like, it was like for me, it's like, I
29:49
think the the way you break abuse in and in families is you
29:54
break the cycle, you break the chain, Someone, someone
29:57
branches. Off.
29:58
Someone branches off the family tree that isn't an alcoholic,
30:02
isn't a drug user, isn't a a pedophile.
30:04
I mean the list goes on and on of what problems people have in
30:07
their families and and someone's got a break break away from
30:10
that. So in my family wholeheartedly,
30:13
I'm that I am that person. I am, you know, it's like the,
30:16
the choices I've made is not because I'm, I think I'm better
30:20
than anybody else. The choices I made were, was
30:22
self. I I call it self preservation.
30:24
Yes. You know, I had to decide not to
30:27
be a drinker. I had to decide not to be a
30:28
partier, you know, and put myself in situations where who
30:32
knows what, you know, criminal situations going to happen.
30:36
So and then I wanted to reflect that, you know, on Logan, I
30:41
wanted to Logan, I wanted Logan to see, hey, you can live a life
30:45
without any of these things and have and have a great, fantastic
30:48
life. You don't need alcohol, you
30:50
don't need drugs, you don't need these things.
30:53
And it didn't go my way. So anyway, but he's still, he's
30:56
a great kid. He's a good kid.
30:57
He's a he's a great kid. You know, I'm very proud of him.
30:59
I'm proud, I'm proud of his brain and there and there's a
31:02
lot of traits. I still do.
31:03
There's a lot of traits of me in Logan, but there's also a lot of
31:07
traits of his mother that's. That's usually how it works.
31:11
Yeah, he's a combination of both of us.
31:13
So. So, yeah.
31:14
So it's cool that you had a great Easter celebration.
31:17
I, you know, love that we didn't do Jack squat, basically.
31:20
Yeah, I mean, I made sure that I broke the circle by not being a
31:25
yeller, you know, certain things that I grew up with that I made
31:28
sure I, I did not do as a parent.
31:32
And my kids were raised completely different.
31:34
I mean, I'm almost like the black sheep of the family
31:37
because I'm just not like any of my family at all in anything.
31:42
And my brother is still the yeller.
31:45
And do you think that the kids listen when you're screaming and
31:48
yelling at them or they and. And and they pass it on.
31:51
Yes, kids. Pass it on, yeah?
31:53
You don't need to yell at them to get them to listen.
31:59
But and like, you were talking about, you know, Marty saying
32:03
shit about you. I had my real mom saying shit
32:07
about my real dad. That was horrible stuff.
32:11
And so that is always difficult as the child when your real
32:15
parents are saying stuff about each other and you're stuck in
32:18
the middle. Yeah.
32:19
Well, and Logan was really resentful.
32:21
I mean, again, it's, I mean, hey, it's it's water over the
32:24
bridge and he's 30 some years old.
32:25
But, but when we did, when we did child support for Logan, it
32:32
was I, I said pokey, I go pokey, what do you want?
32:35
And so we did that. We did the divorce agreement and
32:38
there was no, there was no CPS, no department of whatever,
32:42
nobody. It was like, how much do you
32:44
want a month? What do you expect me to do?
32:47
And I did, and I did exactly what was what she expected or
32:51
what she what she wanted. And so my so Logan was very
32:55
resentful because Marty would say stuff about me and he'd go,
32:58
but my, but he goes. My dad doesn't miss a payment.
33:00
My dad sees me religiously every two weeks.
33:03
My dad pays for all my medical. My dad pays for all, all the
33:06
travel. My dad pays for anything and
33:08
everything I need. Right.
33:09
You know, beyond, beyond. Yeah, right.
33:12
Right. And and so to have another
33:14
person turn around and say your dad's a piece of shit, it's like
33:16
that. Like that's just uncalled for.
33:19
Yeah. Uncalled for.
33:20
And so and, and then Logan, it was interesting.
33:23
And Logan and I've had this conversation about, about the
33:26
Child Support money. Oh, I remember one time I was in
33:28
Bakersfield and Pokey called me and said, Hey, I want more child
33:32
support. And I said, well, great, go get,
33:34
you know, go to go to the court. No, go to the court, pitch in
33:37
the court and, and get more child support.
33:40
Whatever the court says that I have to pay, I'll pay, you know,
33:44
and, and it's so funny when I talk to other people, what Logan
33:48
got or what his mother got was three to four times I was.
33:51
Going to say probably a lot more than the standard.
33:55
Like a bare minimum. Pokey never went back to the
33:58
court because she knew the deal she had.
34:01
Because we went through that with Kyron.
34:02
We went through that with Kyron, you know.
34:04
So with Kyron, I paid his insurance.
34:06
His dad didn't pay. His dad wouldn't pay it, you
34:09
mean? So there are things that that I
34:11
contributed financially, right? That so these are things Marty
34:15
never had like, yeah, you know. And so Logan was really
34:19
resentful because they took the money and they bought a camper,
34:22
They bought a boat. No, they did they, you and and
34:25
they, they use that they and he, he really resented that.
34:28
Of course. You know, and, and he says and
34:31
he goes, they did they, you know, and, and, and I and I had
34:35
to defend that that system, that system.
34:38
I had to defend that system and say, Hey, Logan, you're I.
34:42
By law I have to give your mother this money and she
34:44
decide. What they she?
34:47
Dictates what that money goes for, I said.
34:50
I said I can't. I can't turn around and go,
34:52
well, better be going for shoes or better be going for pants or
34:55
haircuts or whatever. You don't dictate that.
34:59
And so anyway, it was, it was like, like I said, so.
35:02
So I'm glad you had a great Easter celebration.
35:04
And I love the fact that it's just therapy every day.
35:07
It's just therapy. I know, I know, right?
35:10
I mean my dad didn't pay child support for like 2 years so
35:14
yeah. I never missed a pay.
35:16
I never missed a payment, I never missed a payment.
35:18
And I mean, it was interesting even towards the end.
35:20
So when Logan turned 18, Logan turns 18, before he graduated,
35:23
Pokey was on the phone. Are you going to continue to pay
35:26
money until he graduates? And guess what I said?
35:29
Of course. Yes.
35:31
There are some dads that will continue paying even when the
35:34
child's in college, right? You know so.
35:37
Yeah. So, yeah.
35:39
So it's so it's that way for me. It was never about the money.
35:41
It's about it's about Logan in those situations.
35:44
Now, Logan, Logan did come live with us for a year in Richland
35:47
his junior year. And guess what I didn't do?
35:50
Pay child support. I didn't pay child support,
35:52
right? Because it's because Logan's
35:54
with us. So but but I mean, but that was
35:57
the only but outside of that and it and it was and, and a payment
36:00
was never missed. It was like, babe, it was
36:02
always, it was always like, I mean, literally the check was in
36:04
the mail on that. And I I think that's being a
36:07
good man, right? Like that's not even like, like
36:10
that's if I had that's not even a question.
36:13
Logan, your children. I couldn't imagine anybody not
36:16
taking care of their kids. Right, which my dad tried really
36:19
hard to evade paying child support.
36:21
He he owned a bar. He put that in his girlfriend's
36:24
name, the house, whatever. But karma came around and bit
36:28
him in the ass because when he was working in Alaska, she got a
36:32
new boyfriend and told him, hey, all your stuff's in your car and
36:36
she got the business, she got the house, she got everything.
36:40
But he needed to learn that lesson to then come back to my
36:43
brother and I and be like, I was so wrong and so sorry and he
36:49
basically spent the rest of our adult lives trying to make up
36:52
for. That that's good.
36:53
Well, I'm glad. No, that I like that.
36:54
Actually, I actually, I like that story because because you,
36:59
you, you pay the Child Support because it's the right thing to
37:02
do. You take care of your kids
37:03
because it's the right thing to do.
37:04
So it's like and so and and to not do those things, you know,
37:09
no matter how mad you are at the ex-spouse or whatever.
37:13
Well, but that was it. It was always like between him
37:16
and my mom, it was always the two of them, but we always were
37:21
the ones that suffered or got the brunt of it in the end, so.
37:25
Yeah, I, you know, again, I'd like to think, you know, for the
37:27
most part, not that we were perfect, but pokey and I get OK.
37:30
Yeah. In that in that situation, there
37:33
was there was some rough times, but but the rough times were
37:36
always because of Marty, you know, and.
37:39
Does Marty have kids? No, no.
37:41
Kids. He has no kids.
37:42
No kids. And it was interesting because I
37:44
took Logan out to dinner a couple months back and we were
37:47
talking about he was actually Logan hurt my feelings.
37:50
But I said I it said to him, I said, hey, your mom and I, if it
37:53
wasn't for Marty, we probably could be friends.
37:55
And he goes, why would my mom want to be your friend?
37:57
And I said, what do you mean? What do you mean He goes, He
38:00
goes. If anything, you're an
38:01
acquaintance to my mom. Would that hurt your feelings a
38:03
little bit? Probably, yeah.
38:05
I'm like, wait a minute, it's like #1 I'm like, you don't know
38:08
the, OK, you can be upset at me about at things, but you don't
38:11
know the relationship between your mom and I.
38:13
Right. Not to say that we want to be
38:14
friends. We don't want to be.
38:15
And he goes. He goes.
38:16
My mom doesn't even think about you.
38:17
Don't even. My mom, it's like my mom.
38:21
Like my mom doesn't even think about you.
38:23
She could careless. I'm like, maybe that's the,
38:26
maybe that's the truth. Maybe that's the, the, you know,
38:29
but, but it's like we did have 14 years together, right?
38:33
So and, and up until up until the the nuclear bomb it was, it
38:38
was pretty good so. But I do have to say kudos to
38:41
Logan for sticking up for his mom.
38:44
Like I would want my children to stick up for me regardless of
38:47
who who it was that they, you know, so.
38:51
Well, he just said that his mother would not even consider
38:53
me a friend or you know, basically.
38:56
So I don't know. I don't know if that stick it up
38:58
for me but not. Upset you?
39:00
It just hurt my feelings because I already feel bad enough about
39:03
the we've talked about that I'm going to.
39:06
I, I, I've already made a promise to myself on my
39:09
deathbed, I'll still be asking to forgiveness a lot like your
39:12
dad did for you guys. It's like I made I made a wrong
39:16
turn in Albuquerque and I paid for it.
39:19
Right. You know, I paid for it and even
39:21
though everybody and even though he's he goes, my mom doesn't
39:24
even think about you. She could give a shit about you.
39:26
It's still for me. I, I feel like I have to carry
39:31
that no matter what number 1, so I don't do shit like that again.
39:36
You, you need that. You need that reminder.
39:38
Constant reminder. I don't know about you.
39:41
Constant guilt reminder. I do because my personality is
39:45
like, you know me. I'll jump without AY, I'll jump
39:47
without a net. You will, yeah.
39:49
Every time. So my personality, I've got to
39:52
be kept in check. Yeah, with with that guilt in
39:56
terms of and and and of what? What you You know what you.
40:02
Could lose right learn my lesson like like even pokey called me
40:06
years later and it said I love what she said she goes you.
40:09
Learned your lesson the hard way too.
40:11
She goes, she goes, she goes. You'll never do that again.
40:13
That's what she said. She can say learn, she can say
40:15
lesson. She didn't.
40:16
At least she. Didn't say like I told you so.
40:18
No, you got what you deserved. Or she was a great no, no, no,
40:22
no, I, I will that I I've always said nice things about, you
40:26
know, I've always said nice. Oh yeah.
40:28
And she I mean, that was very like, I don't know if you want
40:32
to call it like political. I mean, that was very like
40:34
neutral of her to say that to you instead of being like told
40:38
you. So you deserve that because she
40:39
could have been like totally bitter about everything that.
40:43
Happened she she she no, no, she called me gosh she called me
40:47
years ago and says, hey, she goes I and out of the blue and
40:50
just says, hey, I know I know you're still kicking yourself
40:53
you know she goes, you need to forgive yourself.
40:55
And I said, well, I can't I never will be able to forgive
40:57
myself. She goes well, I am letting you
40:58
know that I I'm telling you that you should forgive yourself and
41:02
and and I'm good and everybody, everything's good and and don't
41:06
don't then maybe that's what Logan means by she don't think
41:09
about you know what I'm saying? I get it.
41:10
She's she's happening. You're just an acquaintance.
41:13
Well, yeah, you know, so I I get that, but but it's for me, I
41:17
need to carry. I feel like I, and maybe that's
41:19
how your dad feel. You need to carry that.
41:21
So you don't I. Think he did.
41:22
I think he, I mean, he's passed away.
41:26
It'll be almost 10 years coming up in, in 2027.
41:29
But yeah, I think he really carried that guilt with him for
41:33
the rest of his life. And he even with my kids, with
41:38
the boys, he would try and take them and do things and really be
41:42
present in their life and not just buying them things or any
41:47
of that, like actually like taking them fishing and that
41:51
kind of stuff, like really spending time with them.
41:53
That was the hardest part of writing my book about Missus
41:56
Wallace because now I feel like an I feel like an asshole by the
41:59
fact that she had grandkids like Missus Wallace had grandkids.
42:03
So Wanda is Karen's daughter and so so Wanda has multiple kids
42:08
and then they have grandkids. So, so these are grandkids and
42:12
great grandkids. And I remember Wanda reaching
42:14
out, saying, Hey, read your book, blah, blah, blah.
42:16
It's it's all true. She goes.
42:19
But when my children read the book, they were very upset
42:23
because that's not the grandmother they knew.
42:26
I mean lucky for them that she was not the same with them.
42:31
Right, right. And so they felt real and I
42:33
felt, and I felt horrible. Oh my God, because I didn't
42:36
realize the repercussion of writing the book about this was
42:41
my version or this is how I saw it.
42:46
Great, but it but it was real because, like you just said, she
42:50
confirmed that that was really. Yes, I I went back.
42:53
What? Happened.
42:54
After. So after, even before I wrote
42:56
the book, I did talk to my siblings and I said, you know,
43:00
I'm writing this book, blah, blah.
43:02
Did this stuff happen? Am I, you know, am I distorted?
43:05
Maybe, maybe I'm the asshole. You mean you never look, you
43:09
never look around at yourself and go, hey, well, maybe I'm the
43:11
asshole? Great.
43:12
And when you're young, like, you don't know.
43:14
So, right, So and then and then when they all confirm no, these,
43:17
no, this, this is the reality. She was, really.
43:21
Like this? But but when, but when the her
43:24
grandkids read this book, well, that's not grandma.
43:27
That's not what we remember of grandma and and Wanda had to
43:31
tell him, you know, this, this stuff did happen, you know, and
43:36
and luckily grandma was was, you know, and it's funny.
43:39
It's so funny. Speaking of that situation is,
43:42
you know how much I put my my foster dad on his pedestal.
43:46
Yeah. And he was amazing, amazing
43:48
foster dad for me. Again, he was in his late 70s,
43:51
you know, when I was their foster kid.
43:53
But and all their kids are successful.
43:55
They're all wonderful. They're the kids are successful,
43:57
but they they've often joke how he was a mean old bastard to
44:02
them. Right.
44:03
You know, and then and when I came along, it was like, oh,
44:06
it's just, you know. He had softened up.
44:08
Well, yeah, so they so they said.
44:10
So for my foster, even for my foster dad, I got the, you know,
44:14
I got the, I got the warm cuddlies and the real kids.
44:18
By that point, he was just tired.
44:19
Yeah, the real, the real kid says, oh, no, you know, he was a
44:23
mean old cuss. And I'm like, no way.
44:24
But it's funny, you know, not. And they and they adored him, of
44:27
course, but it's just still, you know, still you know, So it's,
44:31
it's amazing. And what, like you said,
44:32
people's perceptions of? Those right and like you talk
44:34
about the the Karen Wallace's grandkids.
44:38
Like when my kids were growing up, I didn't say I didn't tell
44:42
them anything about my mom that about like how I grew up.
44:47
Like I let them just experience her as a grandma, which she was
44:51
a better grandma than a mom. Like grandma.
44:53
She wasn't perfect, but now that they are adults they are seeing
44:58
the real her. But I.
45:00
Have when you give me a Trump book.
45:03
No, it's a Doctor Phil. Book.
45:05
Oh, Doctor Phil Book. I'm sorry, but yes, it might as
45:09
well. It might as well be a Trump
45:10
book. I mean, yeah, pretty much.
45:12
So I did not, you know, say anything bad about her.
45:15
I didn't nothing to them as they were growing up and as adults
45:19
they have seen her. And so I've kind of told them
45:23
bits and pieces about how I grew up.
45:26
And so they can kind of see how that all aligns.
45:29
And now, now it makes sense to them.
45:32
Some stuff. So yeah.
45:33
Well, because it's interesting. As an adult, you're much more
45:37
aware, yes, then you were as a kid.
45:39
So then, yeah. And then, then you see it, like
45:41
you said, in real. You see it in real time.
45:44
Right, right. But I didn't want to, I didn't
45:47
want to taint their relationship with her when they were growing
45:50
up because like you hope that they will be different as
45:54
grandparents. So just like Karen Wallace was
45:57
with her grandkids, thankfully she was different than what you
46:01
knew or even her own kids knew. And so that's what that's all we
46:04
can hope for is that they will do better and treat our
46:07
grandkids better. Yeah, well, well, the the nice
46:10
thing about your amazing kids, you have 4 amazing kids because
46:15
of the great you know, you and Jay are great parents.
46:18
You know, doesn't mean they're perfect, but but but but you're
46:23
appreciative that you did pretty good.
46:25
Yes. For the, you know, and I look at
46:28
Kyron, I look at Kyron and I look at Logan and I, I did, you
46:31
know, the, you know, I guess as a parent you want really what's
46:34
best for them, right? So.
46:36
So it's more, it's more your own selfishness, I guess.
46:38
Right. We have, like I said, we have
46:40
these hopes and dreams for them. You're going to be president.
46:43
You didn't, you didn't. And it's our own image or view
46:47
or projection, whatever you want to call it, that we have for
46:50
them is not necessarily what they have for themselves.
46:53
So. Well, you'd like to think it's
46:55
out of love. I mean, it is out of selfishness
46:57
to some extent. The great, the greatest joy I'm
47:00
enjoying right now in my life is the fact that our old buddy
47:03
Micah Cephas has got a little girl, Kennedy.
47:07
And I love that Kennedy is putting him through the, the,
47:10
you know what I'm saying? And we, I just talked to him a
47:13
couple weeks ago and he had said like, like he can't be selfish.
47:17
Well. Good.
47:18
I'm glad that he's like. Well, he can't be Well, number
47:22
one, number one, you're going to be shocked, but.
47:23
Sometimes parents still, sometimes they still don't.
47:26
Worry, I'm sure he's got his. I'm sure he's got some of that
47:28
still in there, but, well, yeah. Number one.
47:31
He's in his 40s. Which which is crazy, I know.
47:34
This is like damn. You know, so, and then he went
47:37
and then I, last time I talked to him, Kennedy was at soccer
47:40
practice. You know, so it's just, it's
47:43
just funny that what comes around goes around and when you
47:48
become a parent, it just totally, it just totally changes
47:50
you. Yeah, at least, hopefully for
47:53
the best. All right, we got 10 minutes
47:54
left. I know.
47:55
I'm like, what the hell? OK, yeah.
47:57
Speaking of, what the hell? What the 25th Amendment?
47:59
Could somebody please could somebody please take the
48:03
president's phone. I don't know what the hell he
48:05
true socially tweeting what I don't I don't know somebody
48:10
please take it away from him like what in the world and I'm a
48:14
little bit glad that finally like Tucker Carlson some of
48:18
those other right wing Republic. I don't want to come Taylor
48:21
whatever yes are like saying the exact same thing like someone
48:25
needs to like call for the 25th amendment like I I'm happy it's
48:30
finally happening. It's taken away a long time.
48:32
It should have happened a long time ago, but like we are
48:35
crossing into territory that is like yeah, he says all kinds of
48:40
crazy fucking shit, but this is beyond like this could start
48:45
World War three. Basically.
48:47
It like realsies like this isn't just pretend or I'm just going
48:52
to say shit off. Facebook or Instant and all
48:55
that. I know you're on Blue Sky.
48:56
I'm trying. Yes, I am.
48:58
The boot lickers are out there loud and proud.
49:01
Which is crazy to me. It's just.
49:03
Because that. Was his thing to campaign on is
49:07
we're not going to start any wars like Kamala would have got
49:11
us into war with. Iran, Maggie is all in.
49:15
It doesn't matter what he says. Gas prices are crazy and they
49:20
will, I guarantee to you they are going to get worse.
49:24
Like this is just the beginning for us.
49:27
And I don't know, people don't realize that can't see it, don't
49:31
want to see it. I don't know.
49:32
But it's it doesn't make any sense to me.
49:36
So, so we were talking about, and I posted on my Facebook
49:39
Artemis 2 just just sent sent back some amazing photos of
49:43
Earth and from the moon. And I and I wrote on my Facebook
49:47
I had I had talked about that I wish everybody could see the
49:50
world the way that the astronauts right now are seeing
49:53
the world because you realize what a pretty petty race we are,
49:58
right? And.
49:59
How tiny you are compared to the big picture.
50:02
But if you saw that, you probably would want to safeguard
50:06
animal, safeguard the planet, safeguard people knowing that
50:10
how fragile life really is. Because when you move away from
50:12
Earth and you're looking at Earth like they are looking at
50:14
Earth, you realize #1 how unique or special Earth is.
50:19
And yet, and yet down here, all, all anybody wants to do is
50:24
destroy it in any form possible. So, so, and to have a sitting
50:28
president that's like, I, I don't give a shit.
50:31
I'll take the oil. It's like and then just just
50:34
calling for the annihilation. Of an entire country, an entire
50:39
civilization. Yes, yes.
50:42
And to saying that if you don't do what I want, you know I'm
50:45
going to blow you off the fucking face of the planet, I
50:48
mean. Which if a country said that to
50:50
us, we would label them as a terrorist.
50:54
Of course we are. Terrorists any different?
50:56
Yeah, we are not any different by definition.
50:59
But just aren't. But the boot lickers are.
51:01
If you just don't want to read the comments, it's insane.
51:04
That's crazy. That the boot lickers are out
51:07
there loud and proud. My, my friend Faith Martin was
51:11
posted about it and people I could go down exit all day on
51:14
comments about the insanity. So I'm sorry, I'm going to say
51:18
this before we get off this podcast, and I know you're going
51:20
to disagree with me, but this is a fucking racist country.
51:23
It's a fucking racist country. And my I've had people, I heard
51:28
people say, no, we're not, No, we're not.
51:29
That's why. Kamala.
51:30
And that's why Hillary and Kamala didn't get elected.
51:33
No, I get it. But we, we are, we are the worst
51:36
of the worst, you know? And then I discovered a new guy.
51:40
He's great. I'm going to give you his name
51:41
next week, I think. Anyway, he's very articulate.
51:44
He's 25 years old. He's great and in some of these
51:47
arguments, but it's like it's, it's just insane.
51:51
It's just insane that this and and the sitting president can
51:55
say the the F word now. Right.
51:58
If Joe Biden or Obama would have said that, they.
52:01
Would well, it's there, so we're in.
52:02
So we're in what we're in. What about ISM?
52:05
So what happens is someone will say this is horrific and someone
52:08
goes, well, Biden did this, Obama did this.
52:10
That always happens. No, but it's it's gotten to the
52:13
point where it's just utterly insane.
52:16
And and what's scary about the whole situation is no one
52:20
fucking takes a stand. No, nobody and.
52:23
This way, no one is going to 25th Amend him.
52:26
That's why. So that's why they've gotten rid
52:28
of so many high-ranking officials in the military
52:31
because I'm sure that they are probably saying stuff like you
52:35
can't do this or we shouldn't do this.
52:37
And so they're just like getting rid of them.
52:39
The guy OK, so at the Easter egg hunt, he's sitting up there
52:42
talking to little kids about how Biden lot mean what the.
52:45
Fuck, he is not. He is.
52:48
No, it's like, it's like, so we've got three years left, 36
52:52
months, hopefully we're all still here, still here in 36
52:54
months. I don't know.
52:55
I mean, even if, even if he tacos on this whole Iran
53:01
deadline, like or if he walks back the deadline, changes the
53:04
deadline, whatever, the damage is already done.
53:08
Iran is already going to retaliate.
53:12
And it might take five years, it might take 10 years.
53:15
They are in it for the long game and they will get us somehow
53:18
somewhere down the line. Like we've already set the stage
53:21
for that and we kind of, I mean, because of him, because of all
53:24
the shit he's saying. So it makes us all unsafe.
53:27
And, and so, and that's for me, that's my, that's my big
53:30
struggle because it's like you look at these amazing photos
53:35
from Artemis, you know you're going.
53:37
To say when you were talking about it, I thought you were
53:39
going to say now all the flat earthers could see Earth is
53:44
really rare. Oh, no, there's people.
53:45
No, that someone, someone had posted up an AI picture and said
53:49
it's the same stars. It's the same stars.
53:51
Well, yeah, because it's an AI picture.
53:52
Dumbasses #1 AI. We'll talk about AI in a
53:55
different podcast, but AI has gone rampant, so.
53:58
I just think so good you can't tell the difference.
54:01
I wrote, I wrote. You'd think seeing these amazing
54:03
photos would make humanity want to be better to each other, but
54:06
alas, we are a small, petty race that really doesn't deserve the
54:09
richest we have on our lone rock in the universe.
54:12
If we all saw things from outer space and discovered how truly
54:15
fragile life is, we'd be better stewards of our planet, animals
54:18
and people. Yeah, that's how I.
54:20
Think I think that's a good ending.
54:21
Did you get any horrible comments to that though?
54:24
My one Republican friend liked it because, because, because you
54:28
know what? She is reasonable.
54:29
But that's good. They're not all they're.
54:31
Not perfect, she had not. She is not perfect, but but she
54:34
is reasonable. And maybe, maybe before we get
54:37
off here, the people will see the light of the day.
54:40
But if we're not back next week, well, you fucking know what
54:42
happened. That's it for today's episode of
54:46
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