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- 0:00Hi there, welcome back to Hydroponics Daily. Today is the episode that a lot
- 0:04of people have been waiting for, and that is the expose on silicon fertilizers.
- 0:10What's in them, and what do they really contain, what do they do?
- 0:13So, we have analyzed three products from the market, and we've looked at what
- 0:20their actual silicon content is.
- 0:21I'll then go on to talk about
- 0:24when I would use each of those products and then I'll then go and bust the big
- 0:30myth that where it comes to silicon fertilizer that a lot of people have been
- 0:34arguing about on social media and I will tell you that it's absolute complete
- 0:39nonsense and people need to stop talking about it so first of all the three
- 0:43products we analyzed were.
- 0:45Utreemazone c-silica it's an organic silicon product so we
- 0:48know what goes in there so it's a good base reference point so
- 0:51that's our own in-house one we don't sell into the hydroponics industry it's
- 0:54mainly for lawn care so that's a good one that we haven't got
- 0:57a we don't sell it into hydro then we've
- 1:00got shogun which is a uk brand and they've got a silicon product
- 1:03and we've got grow genius and
- 1:06that is a different product it's based
- 1:10on the silicon that is dissolved
- 1:13in synthetic solvents like ethanol and they
- 1:17all claim certain silicon contents so what we did
- 1:20is we put them into the lab and we analyzed their silica content
- 1:23so silica content like the sand in the
- 1:26beach you can easily analyze that by just drying the samples
- 1:29off so over a few days we dried them right
- 1:32down to see if they contain the silica and therefore
- 1:35the silicon content that they claim to so drum roll
- 1:38please the utreema product contained.
- 1:41Just over the amount we declare on the
- 1:44label which is what you want the shogun
- 1:47product contained significantly more than it
- 1:51claimed on the label which was not
- 1:54hard because it was only 1.4 so if i
- 1:57work for silicate if i work for shogun i go back and look
- 2:00at my specs from the raw materials i'm buying in and just check
- 2:03you've got your sums right on that one because you've actually got a more concentrated
- 2:07product than you state not as powerful as
- 2:10utreema's c-silica one but it's good up there it's good very good value for
- 2:13money okay and then the grow genius this too contained the same amount of silicon
- 2:20that it declared just slightly over again what you would want so on the bottle
- 2:25it says and it's a very small bottle.
- 2:27It says it contains 19% silicon, and that's what we found.
- 2:32So there you go. Nothing major of an issue there. So when would I use the different products?
- 2:39I would use, Shogun's a really good product for if you're a beginner hydroponic
- 2:43product grower, because you're.
- 2:48It's it's a lower concentration it means it's easier to
- 2:52to dilute and you're not going to
- 2:54mess the problem with silicon products is they break down over
- 2:57time in the in the fertigation solution
- 3:01that's what you want to happen but it can raise your ec levels over a 24 hour
- 3:0548 hour period and so shogun's a really good product for adding to your fertigation
- 3:09tank if you're new to hydroponics and you were you don't use a super really
- 3:14strong product the utrema product i would use if I'm an organic grower,
- 3:18because it's the only one that's certified for organic use.
- 3:22And the GrowGenius product, I would use if I was really struggling with pH,
- 3:27because the Eutrema product and the Shogun product, which I believe is based
- 3:32on potassium silicate, just like the Eutrema product, C-silica,
- 3:36whereas the GrowGenius product doesn't raise the pH when you're at it.
- 3:38So it's a great product if you're struggling with pH.
- 3:41Now, if you're using Goldleaf in the US, or liquid gold, as it's called in the
- 3:44UK, you can add either any of these products and it wouldn't affect,
- 3:48it wouldn't take the pH out of the sweet spot. So don't worry about that.
- 3:51I would also use the Grow Genius product if I was on a golf course and I was struggling with pH.
- 3:57There in golf courses and sports turf, it's one of the few situations where
- 4:02you don't want to be raising the pH because you get disease problems there.
- 4:05They want to keep it acidic.
- 4:06Whereas in most farming situations, you actually don't mind raising the pH.
- 4:10That's why you lime soils when you're farming.
- 4:13So each one has their own use and the analysis was good, so nothing major there.
- 4:19However, now we come to the big reveal, the big problem with hydroponics,
- 4:25and that is that everyone has become obsessed with the term monosilicic acid.
- 4:32Monosilicic acid is the form of silicon that plants absorb silicon by.
- 4:38It's a small molecule with one silicon atom.
- 4:42Whereas potassium silicate is a polymer and so certain companies have been making
- 4:48a big deal that they contain monosilicic acid and one of them is GrowGenius
- 4:53and they've been claiming on the front of this bottle 40% monosilicic acid,
- 4:58You know, it's not great, but what really is an issue there is that GrowGenius
- 5:04social media have been calling out other brands like PowerSI and things like
- 5:09this, and it doesn't sit well with me, that one,
- 5:12because no product contains monosilicic acid.
- 5:15They all contain silicon, and GrowGenius contains polymerized silicon.
- 5:19Now, it doesn't contain potassium silicate, but if you look on the safety data
- 5:23sheet, which is freely available on the website, you'll see it does contain
- 5:27a range of silicon polymers.
- 5:31So, tetraethylsilicate, polysiloxane, ethylpolysilicate, these are all the active
- 5:40ingredients in GrowGenius.
- 5:42So these are not monosilicic acid and
- 5:45just like the potassium silicates they break
- 5:49down to form monosilicic acid in water
- 5:52so grow genus will form monosilicic acid
- 5:56when it's added to the fertigation tank but
- 5:59so will shogun's product and so will the
- 6:02utreema c silica and all the other silicon products
- 6:05if it was to contain monosilicic acid in
- 6:09its true form it would be weak as piss
- 6:12because monosilicic acid is not soluble
- 6:15in high enough concentrations that's why we
- 6:18use polymerized versions that's a very good reason
- 6:21for using polymerized versions so if everyone could stop using the term monosilicic
- 6:24acid that would be fantastic if everybody could stop slagging off everyone else's
- 6:29silicon product in the hydroponic industry that would be great there's a lot
- 6:33of bad blood at the moment in the UK hydroponic industry. We need a bit of peace and love.
- 6:38And so everyone just chill out. Stop using the term monosilicic acid. Let's have a.
- 6:47GroGenius claimed 40% monosilicic acid, but if all of their silicon was as monosilicic
- 6:54acid, it would actually be 67% monosilicic acid.
- 6:58Because if you take 19% silicon and then convert that by looking at the molecular
- 7:06weight of monosilicic acid,
- 7:09then that would actually equate to 67% monosilicic acid
- 7:12so where they've come it's actually 42 or
- 7:1645 silica is what it is just
- 7:19as the utrema product ours is 12.6 and the
- 7:22shogun's is actually nine percent silica well that's
- 7:25what we found so yeah there you
- 7:28go that's the results of our test in summary
- 7:31all the products contain what they say they do the shogun
- 7:35product actually contains more than it says it's going to too and
- 7:39then the key takeaway home message here sorry and also
- 7:42the second takeaway message is if you're struggling
- 7:44with ph grow genius is a good product if you're in
- 7:47a golf course if you're organic use utreema and if you're a hydroponic grower
- 7:52who's looking for an easy to use product than the shogun's one i know a lot
- 7:57about all silicons because i've been making them for a long time and i was actually
- 8:02asked by orion ft who are the original manufacturers.
- 8:07Of the grow genius product to make it for them about five years ago six years
- 8:13ago about seven years ago now and i turned them down because i didn't want to
- 8:17be working with ethanol you need specialist equipment to be working with ethanol
- 8:19spark proof equipment and then and so so i know it's a good product. I know it's hard to make.
- 8:26So I'm not saying it's a bad product because I know it's a good product.
- 8:31And I know Engage Aggro, who are the people who buy off Orion FT, and,
- 8:37they they've got some good products for arable crops
- 8:40and and sports turf and then so
- 8:44yeah i know this i know the whole supply chain so that's an
- 8:47interesting one and we've we've had a few issues in uh with uterine
- 8:49with people in the hydroponic industry you know bad-mouthing
- 8:53us in other in other areas this week and they
- 8:56don't actually realize that we supply a lot of their manufacturers raw
- 9:00materials so yeah it's been
- 9:03interesting in hydroponics there's a lot of drama in hydroponics this week in
- 9:07in in the uk and so yeah and that's not even the biggest drama of the week which
- 9:13i can't even talk about but the people behind grow genius have had a lot of
- 9:17good marketing from another aspect of that this week should we say invoices
- 9:21on ebay that's all i'm going to say.
- 9:23That's they've got a lot to thank us for this week so if everyone
- 9:27could just stop saying monosyllidic acid and just talk about silicon that everything
- 9:31would be fine and dandy everyone's product contains the right amount of silicon
- 9:35that it says it does okay and they all break down to form monosilicic acid so
- 9:40let's not have anyone slagging anyone else's product off online okay,
- 9:46if anyone wants to come back at me and say i've got this wrong then i'm more
- 9:49than happy this is only my opinion if you think there's some other silicon technology
- 9:54i have ignored then i'm more than happy to do a follow-up okay so silicon fertilizers
- 9:59as i repeat they all contain what they say they do.
- 10:03The ethanol synthetic solvent ones are good for when you don't want to check the pH.
- 10:07The more dilute versions are good if you want to good control over your furtigation
- 10:12solution and uterine have got an organic one.
- 10:15There's no such thing as a monosilicic acid concentrate. They all break down
- 10:19to form monosilicic acid and just check your calculations everyone.
- 10:24Shogun check your silica content and your silica on the on your specs and yeah
- 10:31if grow genius want to tell me where the 40% monosilic acid comes from i'd be
- 10:34interested to know that okay until tomorrow that's been hydroponics daily goodbye.