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  Speaker 1: In two thousand and eight, a teenager was hiking through
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  Speaker 1: a very dense forest in northern California when he decided
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  Speaker 1: to stop and make camp for the night. He walked
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  Speaker 1: several hundred feet off the main trail into the forest
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  Speaker 1: where he found a small clearing, and there he would
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  Speaker 1: set up his tent and he would climb inside and
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  Speaker 1: go to sleep. A few hours later, he would wake
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  Speaker 1: up because he thought he heard something outside of his tent,
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  Speaker 1: but there were no windows on his tent and it
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  Speaker 1: was totally pitch black outside, so we can't see anything.
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  Speaker 1: And so he's just laying there listening, trying to discern
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  Speaker 1: what's going on outside. And as he's laying there, he
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  Speaker 1: hears it again, and it's the sound of footsteps slowly
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  Speaker 1: approaching his tent. But before we get into that story,
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  Speaker 1: let's get into today's story. In two thousand and seven,
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  Speaker 1: the now famous cult classic movie Into the Wild was
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  Speaker 1: released to movie theaters for the first time. The movie,
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  Speaker 1: which is based on a true story, centers on the
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  Speaker 1: life of a young man named Christopher McCandless.
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  Speaker 2: In nineteen ninety.
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  Speaker 1: Christopher graduated from a really good school with honors, and
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  Speaker 1: by all accounts, he could have gone on to get
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  Speaker 1: a really good, high paying job.
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  Speaker 2: But Christopher didn't want a job.
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  Speaker 1: He wanted freedom, and so, without telling his parents because
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  Speaker 1: they would not have been happy about this idea, he
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  Speaker 1: gave away all of his possessions.
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  Speaker 2: He gave all his money to.
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  Speaker 1: Charity, and he headed off to Alaska to live off
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  Speaker 1: the grid by himself. He eventually would find this rusted
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  Speaker 1: out old city bus in the middle of the Alaskan wilderness,
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  Speaker 1: and he would make this bus his shelter, and he
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  Speaker 1: would live inside of this bus for one hundred and
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  Speaker 1: thirteen days before he unfortunately died of starvation. While Christopher's
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  Speaker 1: story is obviously tragic, the movie about his life. Into
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  Speaker 1: the Wild really focuses on Christopher's unrelenting spirit and his
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  Speaker 1: constant drive towards getting the thing he wants the most,
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  Speaker 1: which is freedom. And so at the end of this movie,
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  Speaker 1: the audience is left feeling not sad, but inspired, inspired
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  Speaker 1: to take big risks in life and seek out adventure
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  Speaker 1: before it's too late. One audience member who was totally
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  Speaker 1: inspired by Christopher McCandless's life story was an eighteen year
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  Speaker 1: old young man named Matt Higgins who lived in Oregon.
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  Speaker 1: Matt was about to graduate high school, and unlike a
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  Speaker 1: lot of his peers, he had no idea what he
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  Speaker 1: should do after graduation, whether it was get a job
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  Speaker 1: or go to school. But after watching Into the Wild,
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  Speaker 1: a third option appeared to him, which was too head
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  Speaker 1: off into the wild, just like Christopher McCandless had done,
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  Speaker 1: except not permanently. Matt quickly fell in love with this option.
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  Speaker 1: He viewed it as a chance to kind of take
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  Speaker 1: a break from reality and go find himself, and then
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  Speaker 1: at the end of his stint in the wild, he
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  Speaker 1: could come back and you know, get a job or
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  Speaker 1: go to school. And so Matt's official Into the Wild
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  Speaker 1: plan was that he would graduate in two thousand and seven,
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  Speaker 1: and then in the spring of two thousand and eight,
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  Speaker 1: he would hike the entirety of the California section of
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  Speaker 1: the infamously rugged and beautiful Pacific Crest Trail, and he
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  Speaker 1: would do this all on his own. This section of
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  Speaker 1: the Pacific Crest Trail that he planned on hiking was
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  Speaker 1: roughly seventeen hundred miles long. It began on the border
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  Speaker 1: of Mexico in southern California, and it wound its way
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  Speaker 1: north up to the border of Oregon. The trail cut
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  Speaker 1: through deserts and up and over mountains, and there was
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  Speaker 1: lots of dangerous wildlife to contend with. And on top
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  Speaker 1: of that, there were many points along this trail where
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  Speaker 1: hikers were very isolated. They were not anywhere near civilization,
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  Speaker 1: and so if anything were to happen to them, they'd
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  Speaker 1: be on their own. And so naturally, this hike was
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  Speaker 1: not a beginner hike. However, Matt was not a beginner hiker.
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  Speaker 1: He had grown up hiking and camping all over Oregon
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  Speaker 1: and the Western United States. He had spent time in
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  Speaker 1: totally well marked and safe areas, and he had also
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  Speaker 1: spent time hiking around very dangerous and isolated areas where
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  Speaker 1: there were cougars and bears and unmarked cliffs everywhere, and
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  Speaker 1: so Matt felt like, with his experience in the outdoors,
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  Speaker 1: he was perfectly suited to take on this big of
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  Speaker 1: an adventure, and in many ways that was true. However,
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  Speaker 1: something was going to happen to him while he was
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  Speaker 1: out on the Pacific Crest Trail that no amount of
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  Speaker 1: hiking or camping experience could have prepared him for. So
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  Speaker 1: Matt graduated from high school in two thousand and seven, and,
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  Speaker 1: in keeping with his plan, in the spring of two
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  Speaker 1: thousand and eight, he packed up his stuff. He headed
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  Speaker 1: to the airport, and he flew south to southern California,
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  Speaker 1: and when he got there, he made his way all
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  Speaker 1: the way south to the border of Mexico, and there
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  Speaker 1: he picked up the start of the Pacific Crest Trail
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  Speaker 1: and he began heading north. For the first few weeks
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  Speaker 1: of his hike, Matt would spend the entire day hiking
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  Speaker 1: as far as his body would allow him, and then
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  Speaker 1: at night, when it got too dark or when he
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  Speaker 1: got too tired, he would just set up his campsite
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  Speaker 1: right off the edge of the trail, and then after
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  Speaker 1: a quick bite to eat, he'd climb inside of his
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  Speaker 1: tent and he'd go to sleep, and then the next
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  Speaker 1: day he'd get up early and he'd do it all
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  Speaker 1: over again. During those first few weeks, the only real
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  Speaker 1: adversity that Matt ever faced beyond just kind of normal
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  Speaker 1: fatigue from long distance hiking was at one point he
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  Speaker 1: got a little dehydrated, and another time he almost stepped
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  Speaker 1: on a rattlesnake. Besides those two things, really, the hike
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  Speaker 1: had actually been fairly routine by Matt's standards.
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  Speaker 2: But when he.
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  Speaker 1: Reached the Lassen National Forest, which is a very dense
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  Speaker 1: forest in northern California, located about one hundred and fifty
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  Speaker 1: miles from the end of his hikes of the.
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  Speaker 2: Border of Oregon.
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  Speaker 1: When he got there, this hike of his would become
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  Speaker 1: anything but routine. Not long after stepping foot in Lassen Forest,
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  Speaker 1: Matt found himself walking along this winding dirt path where
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  Speaker 1: the trees on both sides of this path were pressed
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  Speaker 1: tightly up against the edges of this trail, and because
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  Speaker 1: of how densely packed the trees were together, it was
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  Speaker 1: almost like he had these walls on either side of
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  Speaker 1: him that extended one hundred feet into the air, and
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  Speaker 1: so it was very quiet, and it was very dark
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  Speaker 1: as he was walking along, but Matt was enjoying it.
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  Speaker 1: All he could hear was the chirping of birds and
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  Speaker 1: insects buzzing around him.
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  Speaker 2: It was peaceful. And so Matt's just kind of meandering
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  Speaker 2: his way through the forest.
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  Speaker 1: He's in no rush, and at some point the trail
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  Speaker 1: he was on banked hard to the right, and so
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  Speaker 1: he makes this turn, and as he does, he looks
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  Speaker 1: up and what he sees kind of startles him. About
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  Speaker 1: twenty feet away from him, off to the right side
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  Speaker 1: of the trail is this big boulder, and sitting on
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  Speaker 1: this boulder are two middle aged people, a man and
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  Speaker 1: a woman. They were both dressed head to toe in white.
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  Speaker 1: They both looked very dirty and disheveled. The man had
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  Speaker 1: this big, unkempt beard, and both of them were just
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  Speaker 1: staring daggers at Matt, and so Matt felt awkward and
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  Speaker 1: he immediately looked down as he continued walking towards them.
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  Speaker 1: But as he got within a few feet, he looked
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  Speaker 1: up and kind of awkwardly smiled at them and waved
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  Speaker 1: and said hi, and they didn't respond. They just continued
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  Speaker 1: to stare at him with no discernible expression on their face,
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  Speaker 1: and they watched him as he walked right past them.
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  Speaker 1: And so after Matt walked past these two people in white,
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  Speaker 1: he felt really uncomfortable because he knew they were still
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  Speaker 1: definitely staring at him as he walked away, and he
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  Speaker 1: didn't want to turn around and meet their eye contact.
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  Speaker 2: And so he's just kind of walking.
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  Speaker 1: Away feeling that uncommfortable feeling of someone staring at him,
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  Speaker 1: and he's thinking to himself, why didn't they at least
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  Speaker 1: wave or acknowledge him in some way, especially considering the
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  Speaker 1: fact that on the Pacific Crest Trail, people go days
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  Speaker 1: without seeing other people. Matt in fact, had not seen
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  Speaker 1: another person in days until he saw these two, And
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  Speaker 1: so he's thinking, you know, how rude is that to
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  Speaker 1: just completely not react when another person walks past you
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  Speaker 1: on this trail. But Matt told himself, you know what,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know these people. I don't know what their issues.
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  Speaker 2: Are, you know, for all, I know their foreign.
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  Speaker 1: And they didn't understand what I said. And so maybe
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  Speaker 1: that's why they didn't say hello back. Who knows, But
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  Speaker 1: you know, what, It's none of my business. And so
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  Speaker 1: Matt just continued walking along. He never turned around to
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  Speaker 1: look back at these two people in white.
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  Speaker 2: He just carried on.
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  Speaker 1: A few hours later, when the sun was starting to set,
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  Speaker 1: Matt was still walking along this winding trail with these
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  Speaker 1: huge trees on either side of him, and so visibility
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  Speaker 1: was getting pretty poor, and so he began looking for
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  Speaker 1: a place to make his camp. But because of how
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  Speaker 1: close these trees were to the edge of this trail,
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  Speaker 1: and considering how dense these trees were, there was no
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  Speaker 1: spot for him to make his campsite without completely blocking
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  Speaker 1: the trail.
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  Speaker 2: And Matt did not want to block the trail for
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  Speaker 2: other people.
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  Speaker 1: And so what he did is he left the trail
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  Speaker 1: and he walked three hundred feet or so into these
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  Speaker 1: thick trees where he found this little clearing, and that's
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  Speaker 1: where he set up his tent. Once it was all
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  Speaker 1: set up, he made some food for himself on his
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  Speaker 1: little stove, and then after he was done eating, he
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  Speaker 1: packaged up all of his leftover food inside of a
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  Speaker 1: waterproof bag. Then he sealed that up, and then he
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  Speaker 1: tied some cord to the bag and threw the bag
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  Speaker 1: up and over a branch of a nearby tree and
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  Speaker 1: kind of tied it off, so the bag was sitting
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  Speaker 1: well off the ground. This was to make sure no
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  Speaker 1: bears could get to his food. And so after his
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  Speaker 1: leftovers were secured high up in a tree, it was
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  Speaker 1: totally pitch.
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  Speaker 2: Black outside, and so Matt just climbed into his tent.
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  Speaker 2: He zipped it up, climbed into a sleeping bag, and
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  Speaker 2: he fell asleep.
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  Speaker 1: The next morning, Matt got up right as the sun
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  Speaker 1: was starting to rise, and so it was still pretty
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  Speaker 1: dark outside, but there was a little bit of light,
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  Speaker 1: and so Matt unzipped his tent and he looked outside
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  Speaker 1: and the first thing.
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  Speaker 2: He noticed was his bag of food that he had
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  Speaker 2: put up in the tree was gone.
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  Speaker 1: And so Matt stepped out of his tent and he
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  Speaker 1: looked around, thinking, you know, maybe it fell to the
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  Speaker 1: ground or something, but it wasn't there.
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  Speaker 2: It was just gone. And so Matt thought to himself, you.
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  Speaker 1: Know, I didn't hear anything last night, but I guess
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  Speaker 1: a bear must have come into the campsite, found the
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  Speaker 1: food and run off with it. And so Matt began
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  Speaker 1: walking over to the tree where he had strung the
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  Speaker 1: food up to begin looking on the ground for bear
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  Speaker 1: prints to confirm his theory that that was who took
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  Speaker 1: his food.
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  Speaker 2: And so he walks over. He's looking around.
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  Speaker 1: He doesn't see any bear prints, but he does see
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  Speaker 1: two sets of human boot prints, neither of which were his.
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  Speaker 1: And before he could even process that, he realized these prints,
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  Speaker 1: these human prints, were not just underneath this tree where
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  Speaker 1: the food was. These prints, as he looked around him,
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  Speaker 1: extended all the way up to his tent and all
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  Speaker 1: around his tent and all over his campsite. And so
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  Speaker 1: as Matt is looking at this crazy trail of human
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  Speaker 1: prints all over the place, he's thinking to himself, how
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  Speaker 1: is this possible? I went to bed last night when
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  Speaker 1: it was already pitch black outside, and I got up
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  Speaker 1: basically right at sunrise, so it was still dark outside.
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  Speaker 2: So these two people that were.
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  Speaker 1: Walking all over my campsite and cutting my food down,
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  Speaker 1: they somehow navigated here, three hundred feet off the main trail,
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  Speaker 1: in the middle of nowhere.
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  Speaker 2: They navigated here in total pitch.
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  Speaker 1: Blackness, and they did it silently without waking me up.
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  Speaker 2: How is that even possible?
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  Speaker 1: And so, after running through this thought process, Matt realized
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  Speaker 1: the only logical conclusion was that the two people he
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  Speaker 1: saw on the rock, the people in white, had followed
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  Speaker 1: him after seeing him. They saw where he left the trail,
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  Speaker 1: and they had waited until he fell asleep and then.
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  Speaker 2: Snuck out and robbed him.
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  Speaker 1: As Matt's thinking about this, he suddenly realized that maybe
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  Speaker 1: they're still around, maybe he's still being watched, and so
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  Speaker 1: he began whipping his head around, looking in all directions,
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  Speaker 1: almost expecting to see the man and the woman in
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  Speaker 1: white kind of poking out from behind a tree.
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  Speaker 2: But when he looked around, he couldn't see anyone.
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  Speaker 1: However, he started to get that sense that he was
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  Speaker 1: being watched, and so, feeling really uncomfortable, he quickly packed
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  Speaker 1: up his campsite and walked as quickly and calmly as
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  Speaker 1: he could toward the trail. And as he walked, he
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  Speaker 1: kept thinking to himself that these people are going to
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  Speaker 1: jump out from behind a tree, or they're going to
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  Speaker 1: grab me from behind, And so he's walking faster and
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  Speaker 1: faster and faster, and he finally gets to the trail
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  Speaker 1: and he looks down the trail and up the trail,
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  Speaker 1: he kind of looks all around. He doesn't see anybody,
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  Speaker 1: and so he tells himself, Okay, they're gone. So he
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  Speaker 1: took a deep breath, he composed himself, and he started
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  Speaker 1: walking north again along the trail. Matt walked for several hours,
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  Speaker 1: periodically looking over his shoulder, again expecting to see the
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  Speaker 1: man and woman in white, but he never did. And
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  Speaker 1: eventually this narrow path kind of cutting through the dense
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  Speaker 1: forest opened up to this big, beautiful field. And by
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  Speaker 1: that point the sun was high in the sky, and
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  Speaker 1: so Matt's walking in this very beautiful open area. He
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  Speaker 1: can see in all directions there's sunlight.
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  Speaker 2: Beaming down on him. And so, even though he was
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  Speaker 2: totally rattled by what had happened the night.
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  Speaker 1: Before, he found himself kind of becoming more at ease
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  Speaker 1: about the situation.
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  Speaker 2: He was far less paranoid.
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  Speaker 1: And he began telling himself, you know, as creepy as
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  Speaker 1: it is that those people in white almost certainly followed
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  Speaker 1: him and snuck up on his campsite in the middle
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  Speaker 1: of the night. As bad as that is, he thought,
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  Speaker 1: you know what, they probably were just super hungry, and
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  Speaker 1: they clearly needed the food more than he did. And so,
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  Speaker 1: you know what, those people, they can have my food whatever,
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  Speaker 1: and so Matt just continued on, telling himself he would
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  Speaker 1: never have to deal with the people in White ever again.
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  Speaker 2: However, he would be wrong.
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  Speaker 1: Over the next three days, Matt continued making his way
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  Speaker 1: north through the Lassen forest, and the trail he was
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  Speaker 1: on would weave between those big, beautiful open areas back
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  Speaker 1: inside those very densely forested areas where the trees were
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  Speaker 1: practically right on top of you. And those three days,
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  Speaker 1: Matt did not see the people in White, He did
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  Speaker 1: not have any nighttime encounters with anybody. Nothing got stolen,
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  Speaker 1: and so that only reinforced the idea that, you know,
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  Speaker 1: he had been a target of opportunity.
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  Speaker 2: They had taken what.
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  Speaker 1: They wanted from him, and they were no longer following him.
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  Speaker 1: But on the fourth day, after the food stealing incident,
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  Speaker 1: things would get spooky.
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  Speaker 2: For Matt again.
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  Speaker 1: On that fourth night, Matt was once again forced to
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  Speaker 1: leave the trail he was on, he was.
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  Speaker 2: In one of those very densely forested areas.
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  Speaker 1: And walk well off the trail to find a clearing
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  Speaker 1: for his tent. And so he walked, you know, several
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  Speaker 1: hundred feet away. He finds his clearing, he sets up
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  Speaker 1: his tent, and then also he sets up a perimeter
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  Speaker 1: of sticks all around the outside of his campsite. This
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  Speaker 1: was a precaution he had begun taking after the food
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  Speaker 1: stealing incident. These sticks were an early warning system where
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  Speaker 1: if any animal or person came too close to his campsite,
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  Speaker 1: they would step in theory on these sticks and they
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  Speaker 1: would and they would alert Matt in the middle of
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  Speaker 1: the night. And so, after his campsite was all set
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  Speaker 1: up and all prepared, Matt sat down and had a
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  Speaker 1: quick bite to eat. And then after storing his food,
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  Speaker 1: he climbed inside of his tent and he fell asleep.
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• 16:59
  Speaker 1: A few hours later, Matt suddenly woke up. Now, when
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: he woke up, he opened his eyes, but it's pitch
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: black in his tent. There are no windows in his tent,
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: and it's pitch black outside, so even with his eyes open, he.
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: Can't see anything.
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: And so he's just laying there with his eyes open,
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: but it's total darkness, and he's just listening intently because
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: he doesn't really know why he woke up, if something
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: startled him, or if there's no reason at all, and
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: so he's just laying there and he's listening. And as
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: he's listening, he hears the distinct sound of something stepping
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: on one of the sticks in his perimeter, and so
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: he hears the stick break, and his heart just starts
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: racing because he knows that an animal or a person
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: is just a few feet away from him, and so instinctively,
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: he kind of begins to pull his arm as quietly
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: as he can out of his sleeping.
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: Bag, and he reaches over and he grabs his hunting knife.
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: And as he grabs the handle of the knife and
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: he brings it closer to him, he hears the sound
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: of more footsteps.
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: Whatever has stepped on the stick has not slowed down
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: at all. They don't care about the sound they do.
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: They're still moving towards his tent. And so Matt's starting
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: to get really freaked out because he knows that, you know,
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: it could be an animal, but just a couple of
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: days ago, two people were in his campsite, stealing his
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: food and walking all around his tent, and so that's
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: what's going through his head. And so Matt's laying there
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: preparing himself to potentially have to slash out if anybody
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: came close to his tent. I mean, he's in the
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: middle of nowhere. If a person is out here, it's
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: not his friend.
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: And so he's laying there.
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: He's kind of shaking, and he's listening really intently, and
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: the footsteps are just getting closer and closer and closer
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: to his tent until they stop right next to his head.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: They are literally about a foot away from him, and
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: so he can't see anything. He's just listening really intently,
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: and then he starts to hear whispering, but the whispering
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: is not coming from this person right here. The whispering
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: is coming from everywhere in the forest. It's coming from
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: all different directions, and so Matt doesn't know what to
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: think about this. And as he's hearing this whispering, which
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: is getting more and more frantic, whoever is staying right
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: outside of his tent begins circling his tent. So now
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: he hears footsteps just walking in a circle around his
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: tent while frantic whispers are coming in from all directions.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: And so at this point Matt is so terrified. He's
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: just frozen.
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: He knows that he's holding that knife, but he won't
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: be able to do anything with it. He's just petrified.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: And then as soon as this total nightmare had begun,
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: it just stopped. The whispering, silence, the footsteps stopped, and
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: so in a way it was kind of relieving, But
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: in another way, Matt's laying there thinking, I want to
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: hear the sound of footsteps retreating into the forest leaving,
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: but I haven't heard that. It went from footsteps all
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: around the tent and whispering everywhere to silence, as if
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: whoever is out there is still out there and they're
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: just standing there.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: Waiting for him.
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: And because it's so dark, he can't even look he
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: can't look outside and see, and so he's left just
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: laying in his tent wondering if one, two, three, four, five,
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: ten people are just waiting outside of it tent. He's
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: got no idea. And so finally the sun would come
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: up in the morning, and again Matt has not heard
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: the sound of retreating footsteps, and so maybe they're still
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: just standing outside. But once the sun had totally come
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: up and there was some light outside that he could
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: see through his tent, Matt decided he just had to check,
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: and so he reached over and he quickly unzipped the
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: flap of the tent and he looked outside. He didn't
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: see anyone. He leapt outside with his knife, ready to
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: confront anyone who was out there, but there was no one.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: And so Matt he's not thinking, oh great, you know
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: they're gone. He's thinking, you know, are they just like
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: a few feet away hiding behind trees. And so for
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: a few minutes, Matt just began looking all around his campsite,
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: kind of expecting to see, you know, those people in
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: white or other people he doesn't know, but he doesn't
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: see anyone. And then Matt starts thinking to himself, you
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: know what, Was this just a nightmare? Did that not
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: even happen? Am I imagining this? But when he looked down,
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: he saw clear bootprints all over his campsite, including a
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: nice track all the way around his tent. And so
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: this nightmare really had played out in real life. And
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: so he quickly gets everything back into his pack, he
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: throws it on his shoulder, and he just starts running
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: back towards the trail. And when he got to the trail,
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: he continued running north.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: And as he's running along and looking over his shoulder
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: the whole.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: Time, he's telling himself, I just need to get out
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: of Lassen National Forests. I need to get out of
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: the people in White's turf. Get away from this place
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: and I'll be left alone. And so that motivated him
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: to spend the whole day moving as fast as he
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: possibly could, and by that afternoon he had finally escaped.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: Lassin National Forest.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: He was out, and he was in one of these
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: smaller towns that kind of butted up alongside this forest.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: And so that night he camped out right near this town.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: He wanted to be as close to civilization as possible
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: to ensure his safety, and so as he's laying in
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: his tent that night, he began thinking about what had
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: happened over the past couple of days. At this point,
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: he was nearly certain that the people in white that
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: he had seen on that boulder, they had to be
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: behind these nighttime encounters.
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: They just had to be. And so he's thinking to himself, Okay, well.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: The first encounter I had with them, you know, when
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: they stole his food. Yeah, that's creepy, but it makes sense.
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: They followed him, they went to his campsite, they stole
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: his food. Okay, fine, that makes sense to him. But
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: the second encounter, the one that had happened the night before,
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: that didn't make any sense assuming it was again the
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: people in white responsible. That meant they had been following
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: Matt the whole time and he had not seen them somehow,
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: even though over the last couple of days he had
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: been looking over his shoulder constantly looking for those people,
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: but he didn't see him, and they still managed to
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: follow him all the way over several days to this
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: other unmarked campsite, hundreds of feet off the main trail.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: So how did they do that?
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: And then two once they were at his campsite and
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: he's laying there listening to them walking around the campsite
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: whispering to each other.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: What were they doing?
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: And then how did the footsteps and whispering just stop immediately?
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: And he didn't even hear the sound of them retreating
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: into the woods, you know, how did they do that?
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: And so Matt would go over this and over this
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: until finally he would fall asleep. And then the next morning,
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: when he got up, it was the first thing he
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: was thinking about the people in white What were they
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: doing and why and where were they? And so as
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: Matt packed up his campsite that morning, it did cross
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: his mind, you know, that maybe he should just stop
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: the hike right now and call his family, have them
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: come pick him up and get out of here. But
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: this hike, this huge hike he had planned, was really
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: important to him. And he was only about one hundred
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: miles away from the finish line, which meant he had
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: already hiked over sixteen hundred miles, and he just didn't
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: want to quit. He wanted to finish what he started.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: And so he packed up his stuff, he threw it
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: over his shoulder, and he continued on. And so that
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: day Matt would leave that little town and he would
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: make his way up into another very dense forest called
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: the Mount Shasta Forest. Mount Shasta was a lot like
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: the Lassen Forest, except Mount Shasta has a very disturbing story. Specifically,
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: lots and lots of people go missing inside of Mount Shasta,
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: and often they go missing under baffling circumstances. The most
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: frightening of these missing persons reports are when someone comes back,
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: the survivor of the event, and they will say, you know,
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: they saw their hiking companion. They clearly saw them, and
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: then they turned their back on them, just for a
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: few moments, a few minutes, whatever it was, and when
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: they turned back around, the person they were with was
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: now gone, no trace of them, nothing, They're just gone,
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: and despite a massive search for them, they're never found again.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: There is a distressing number of missing people in Mount
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: Shasta that sound just like that.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: It's totally terrifying.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: So with that in mind, Matt makes his way into
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: the Mount Shasta Forest and even though it totally stressed
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: him out to once again be walking on these dirt
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: pathways where the trees are very tight on either side
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: of you, the very dense and as he's walking, he's
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: kind of looking in both directions, expecting to see somebody
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: watching him. Despite feeling that way, Matt just continued to
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: stay focused and kept telling himself to just continue on,
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: continue on, because you're so close to the end. And
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: so the first three days that he was in the
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: Mount Shasta Forest, Matt would just keep his head down
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: and very stoically. Every day he would just hike as
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: far as he possibly could. In the evening, he would
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: set up his campsite, either right off the trail or
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: maybe a little ways.
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: Off the trail and a clearing, and he didn't.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: Have any run ins with the people in White or
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: anybody else for that matter.
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: He was totally left alone.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: But on his fourth day in the Mount Shasta Forest,
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: all that would change.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: On that fourth day, Matt found.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: Himself not inside one of those very dense forested areas,
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: but rather in this very open trail that was up
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: on the side of this mountain. And because this trail
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: was fairly high up in elevation, the tree coverage was
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: fairly sparse, and so there was great visibility.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: He could see miles.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: Ahead of him, and when he turned around, he could
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: see miles behind him. And so Matt is just walking
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: along this trail, kind of enjoying the day. It's beautiful outside,
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: and at some point he turns around and looks behind him. Now,
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: all day he'd been doing that and he had not
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: seen anyone, but this time, when he turned around, he
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: saw two little white.
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: Dots miles and miles back, slowly making their way along
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: the trail that he was on. It was the people
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: in white. They were back.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: At this point, Matt was at least fifty miles or
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: more away from that first place he had walked past
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: the people in white when they were sitting on that boulder,
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: which meant one Matt was right. These people in white
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: really had followed him and almost certainly were responsible for
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: the nighttime.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: Visits he was getting.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: And two, for reasons unknown, they were still following him.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: Matt suddenly didn't care at all about completing his big hike.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: He just wanted to get the heck away from those people.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: Very quickly, he pulled out his map and he looked,
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: and to his horror, he realized he was in one
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: of the most isolated portions of the entire hike. He
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: was at least twenty five miles away from the nearest civilization,
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: a little town called Castella, California, and so, without a
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: better option, Matt put the map back in his pocket.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: He took one last look at the people in white who.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: Were making steady gains on him, and then Matt just
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: turned away from them and began booking it down the trail.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: And Matt would run for hours and hours and hours
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: without stopping. Even when he turned around and could no
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: longer see the people in white, he just kept on running.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: And then when the sun set and he could barely
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: see the trail, he just kept on running. It literally
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: wasn't until it was so dark outside that he actually
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: couldn't see the ground anymore that Matt.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: Finally totally exhausted, came to a stop.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: And then from there he turned and left the trail
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: and walked way away from the trail, hundreds of feet
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: deep into the forest to get as far away from
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: these people in white as he possibly could. And so
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: finally he found this clearing, very far away from the trail.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: He set up his tent right in the middle of it,
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: and then he very diligently laid out his perimeter of
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: sticks around his campsite, making sure there were no gaps,
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: and then he climbed inside of his tent, he zipped
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: it up, and then keeping on all of his stuff
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: in case he needed to make a run for it.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: He got inside of his sleeping bag and he just
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: laid there with no expectation that he was going to sleep.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: He was terrified. As he laid there, he thought to himself, Okay,
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: I have now run at least several miles ahead of them.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: I know that was them. I know I got some
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: distance on them.
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: There's no way they saw where I turned off the
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: trail and where I've set up this campsite, so they
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: can't possibly find me. And so Matt would lay in
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: the tent for several hours, just waiting to fall asleep,
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: and then finally he would start to get tired because
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: at this point it's totally quiet outside. He hasn't heard anything,
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: and so he begins to doze off to sleep. And
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: as he's getting more and more tired, he hears the
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: sound of someone's stepping on his perimeter of sticks, And
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: as soon as he hears that stick break, he hears
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: the all too familiar whispering pick up.
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: All around the forest.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: And then something new happens before Matt can even do anything.
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: His tent lights up like a Christmas tree. Someone is
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: shining a light on his tent. Someone has snuck up
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: on his campsite in the middle of nowhere, hundreds and
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: hundreds of feet off the trail, in the middle of
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: the night.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: They've found him and they're shining a light on him.
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: And then the light clicks off and it's silent. And
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: at this point, Matt's fight or flight instinct kicks in
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: and he rips off his sleeping bag. He jumps outside
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: and begins screaming nonsense and flailing around with the knife,
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: trying to intimidate these people to get away from him.
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: And then after he stops for a second, he hears
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: a stick crunch right behind him, and he whips his
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: head around to look at who is standing right behind him,
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: and as he's turning, out of his peripheral vision, he
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: sees a dark figure running towards him. He doesn't think twice,
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: he just and begins running away from the campsite.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: Now, remember it's pitch black in the forest.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: There's trees everywhere, and so Matt's smashing into trees, branches
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: are hitting him. He's falling to the ground, but he
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: is on a pure adrenaline high, and he is just
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: sprinting as fast as he possibly can away from this
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: person who is likely still chasing him. And after five
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: minutes of running, he stumbles and falls forward and kind
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: of lands at the base of this fallen tree. The
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: tree had landed in such a way that it was
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: kind of propped on a rock, so there was a
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: small gap underneath the tree, and so Matt, thinking quickly,
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: kind of slid himself underneath this log and positioned himself
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: so he was looking back in the direction he was
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: running from, and as he laid there, he saw in
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: the distance this light bobbing around. These people are looking
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: for him, they're searching the forest for him, and so
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: he watched in horror tucked underneath this log. As whoever
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: had the light and whoever else was with them, they
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: moved closer and closer and closer, but they did not
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: find him tucked underneath the log.
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: They just walked right on past him.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: And so Matt would remain underneath this log all night
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: until finally the sun came up. And at that point,
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: even though it was fairly obvious that whoever was looking
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: for him, they were now gone. Matt was still terrified,
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: and so he stayed under the log for several hours
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: until it was about early afternoon, and then he finally
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: pulled himself out from under the log and he looked around.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: He couldn't see anyone, and then instead of going back
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: to his campsite and getting his gear, he just totally
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: abandoned it.
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: He was worried that these people.
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: In white or whoever it was, that they were still
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: going to be there, and so he just turned and
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: continued running away from his campsite back out to the trail,
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: and once he got the trail, he continued running on
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: the trail all the way to Castella, California, and when
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: he got there, he hitchhiked his way to the town
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: of Mount Shasta, and there he would speak to police
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: as well as the Forestry Service about what he had experienced,
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: and so they would take all of his information down
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: and they would put him up in a motel for
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: the night, and then the next day Matt would get
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: in touch with his family and they would drive from
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: Oregon to Mount Shasta. They would pick him up and
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: they would take him back home. Months later, Matt would
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: contact the Mount Shasta police and the Forest Service and
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: would just follow up and say, hey, have.
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: You learned anything else about these people in white? Have
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: you caught them? Has anybody else come forward?
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  Speaker 1: And the police would say, you know, they did have
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