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Almost Famous In Depth: Kaitlyn Bristowe · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Before we begin, I have a very special announcement to make.
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  Speaker 1: Ben and Crate and Barrel are going to be throwing
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  Speaker 1: me a bridal shower in l A at the I
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  Speaker 1: Heart Studio actually on June five. My mom's flying in
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  Speaker 1: for it, my sister is gonna be here, a whole
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  Speaker 1: bunch of my bachelor friends will be coming. Um, they're
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  Speaker 1: going to be bringing my favorite foods I've already kind
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  Speaker 1: of given them a little hint hint, and my favorite
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  Speaker 1: desserts like German chocolate cake. I'm then we're gonna have
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  Speaker 1: some games and it's just going to be the best
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  Speaker 1: night ever. So it's not just gonna be me and
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  Speaker 1: my friends and my bachelor friends, It's actually going to
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  Speaker 1: be some of you almost famous podcast listeners out there
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  Speaker 1: as well. The first ten people to email Ben and
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  Speaker 1: Ashley I hurt Media dot com will have a chance
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  Speaker 1: to attend the bridal shower here at the I Heart station.
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  Speaker 1: So the first ten people to email Ben and Ashley
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  Speaker 1: at almost Ben in actually it I Heart media dot
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  Speaker 1: Com will be able to attend my bridal shower courtesy
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  Speaker 1: of Ben and Creighton Beryl, who have been so good
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  Speaker 1: to me throughout this whole engagement process. This is Ben
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  Speaker 1: and Ashley I Almost Famous in Depth, you guys, Ben's
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  Speaker 1: not here for this in depth, which which no offense
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  Speaker 1: to Ben. Maybe a good thing because it's just gonna
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  Speaker 1: be some straight girl talk with me and his ex
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  Speaker 1: girlfriend and his ex girlfriend. If you couldn't tell by
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  Speaker 1: that laugh. We have Caitlin Bristow in the studio. When
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  Speaker 1: people clap, it's like for me, Caitlin, I feel really
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  Speaker 1: special that you agreed to come on almost Famous, because
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  Speaker 1: we are pretty much direct rivals. Well, I would always
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  Speaker 1: have you on my poll, right because I come on yours,
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  Speaker 1: you come on mine. We're rivals, but we are also
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  Speaker 1: great friends. And yes, all right, and I love you too.
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  Speaker 1: And every podcast I do with you, it's just it's
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  Speaker 1: it's girl talk, and it's the stuff that I think
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  Speaker 1: our listeners want to hear. Given the people what they want. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so I have like a list of my own of
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  Speaker 1: things that we need to bring up that the public
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  Speaker 1: has never heard us talk about it. Yeah, that's really fun.
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  Speaker 1: But I also have some general questions I think I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to start with. All right, So let's start out
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  Speaker 1: with some of the questions that the public wants to
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  Speaker 1: know the answers to Okay, you and Jason seemed like
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  Speaker 1: you're in a really good place right now. What are
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  Speaker 1: you going to get engaged December to know? I'm just kidding. Uh, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we are in a good place. But who is in
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  Speaker 1: a good place? Like three months into a relationship, Well,
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  Speaker 1: that's true. So would you say it's three months now?
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  Speaker 1: Three like solidified months. I feel like December was when
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  Speaker 1: it was like, Okay, we don't want to like to
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  Speaker 1: be talking to anyone else. So that's oh I guess whoa,
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  Speaker 1: that's a long time. Yeah, I know, it's like six months,
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  Speaker 1: that's half a year. Yeah, we are in a good place.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah you are, so I think that it's six months.
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  Speaker 1: It comes to this place in a relationship where you
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  Speaker 1: start getting really comfortable with each other, you start getting
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  Speaker 1: comfortable calling them out on certain things. I was already
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  Speaker 1: like that day too though. Oh really okay, so being
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  Speaker 1: a little bit more gross in front of them, gross definitely?
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  Speaker 1: What what are we? What are we seeing happening at
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  Speaker 1: this transition point? For you guys, Jason is going to
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  Speaker 1: kill me. But he started tuting in front of me,
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  Speaker 1: and I think that's so hot. I do, Wait, why
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  Speaker 1: do you think that's hot? Not that I understand. My
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  Speaker 1: reason is because I think it says a lot about
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  Speaker 1: their confidence. Oh I was going to say comfort level
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  Speaker 1: with and comfort level. Yeah, Like they're confident and comfortable
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  Speaker 1: to do that in front of me and know that
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  Speaker 1: I'm still going to look at them the same way.
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  Speaker 1: All right, So Jared is only farted in front of
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  Speaker 1: me twice, what I know, in in a year and
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  Speaker 1: almost you know, a year and some What about when
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  Speaker 1: he has to go the bathroom? Does he like talk
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  Speaker 1: about it or does he say, like, don't go in
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  Speaker 1: there after? I like to say, I like to say,
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  Speaker 1: don't go in there after? Oh, I like push Jason
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  Speaker 1: in really. Oh I've always been like that though, But
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  Speaker 1: any relationship, I'm like, dare you to go in there?
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  Speaker 1: We recently had a conversation on this podcast with Vanessa Grimaldi.
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  Speaker 1: Do you hear about this? But she talked about, Yes,
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  Speaker 1: she's apparently really really obsessed with pooping in relationship, so
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  Speaker 1: she doesn't mind pooping in front of her significance, in
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  Speaker 1: front of them. Yeah, like she actually she actually said
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  Speaker 1: that one she doesn't mind them seeing her do that,
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  Speaker 1: But the other part of it is that she actually
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  Speaker 1: just wants to talk to them seven And if she's
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  Speaker 1: having a conversation and needs to continue that while she
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  Speaker 1: has to go, she has them in and I think
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  Speaker 1: that would be a huge turn off. Well, okay, it's
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  Speaker 1: one thing to go to the bathroom front in front
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  Speaker 1: of someone, but like, what's it's not like you think
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  Speaker 1: you don't stink, but it does. It stinks like it's
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  Speaker 1: so bad. Yeah, but yeah, that's it's the smell that
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  Speaker 1: would concern me. Me too. But also isn't it just
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  Speaker 1: the fact that like something is coming out of your butt? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's like, could you ever I can't even chew gum
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  Speaker 1: when I'm going to the bathroom. No, Like I don't
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  Speaker 1: like even being around my own stuff. Like flush it
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  Speaker 1: right right away. Okay, yeah that's the trick. Yeah, you
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  Speaker 1: flush it right away. In matches, do you remember during
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  Speaker 1: our season there was somebody, yes, yeah, who would openly
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  Speaker 1: go to the bathroom. I'll stop being so graphic. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I was about to go and take it a step further,
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  Speaker 1: but I won't. Okay, she would do it when somebody
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  Speaker 1: was next to her brushing their teeth. Now that would
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  Speaker 1: make me, I think through throw up, Like I can
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  Speaker 1: feel myself almost wanting to drive you just thinking about it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah that I remember that situation. And she wouldn't even
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  Speaker 1: give you warning either. She was just like she just
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  Speaker 1: did it. Yeah, okay, Um, Well, moving on. So you
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  Speaker 1: think that farting is attractive in Jason? And what else
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  Speaker 1: are we like feeling? Like, what's like a little nitpicky
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  Speaker 1: fight you've had? Because I think that I've always brought
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  Speaker 1: up the fact that Jared and I like fight over
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  Speaker 1: the fact that he loves his chapsticks somewhere dumb or
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  Speaker 1: like his chopsticks, chapsticks, chapsticks. I was like, do you
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  Speaker 1: guys eat sushi often? Okay, um, chapstick? Yeah. Jason does
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  Speaker 1: this weird um sniff snort, like when he's like all
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  Speaker 1: fired up about a conversation about like work or something,
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  Speaker 1: he goes like with his nose. It drives me nuts. Also,
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  Speaker 1: he do you call him out on it all the time?
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, he did the nose thing? And how did
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  Speaker 1: you first bring it up? I said, do you want
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  Speaker 1: me to tell you when something annoys me? Or would
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  Speaker 1: you rather keep it to myself? And He's like, no,
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  Speaker 1: I always I'm you know him. He's just he can
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  Speaker 1: take any kind of criticism. He's the least defensive person
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  Speaker 1: and he goes, no, I just want to be better
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  Speaker 1: in every way always, And I was like, Okay, you
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  Speaker 1: do the snort sniff, and it's like when you're all like,
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  Speaker 1: he doesn't when he's eating or when he's fired up
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  Speaker 1: about like business talk. He goes like, m yeah, okay,
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  Speaker 1: so it's like all inner animal. But I also haven't
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  Speaker 1: lived with him, so I don't know other little nitpicky
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  Speaker 1: things like i've stayed. I think the longest we've spent
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  Speaker 1: together is five days, and I can't really think, like
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  Speaker 1: he snores, so that's you know, that's annoying. But I
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  Speaker 1: think it's just we're not at that point where I
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  Speaker 1: can't like, we're not like the at the married couple
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  Speaker 1: of phase where things are really annoying me. Like everything
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  Speaker 1: he does right now is pretty cute. Yeah, Like even
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  Speaker 1: the sniffs nord. I'm kind of like like when he
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  Speaker 1: doesn't do it, I'm like it just it kind of
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  Speaker 1: sounds a little cute. Yeah, it's like his thing. So
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  Speaker 1: we were pretty just we're just a happy couple right now.
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  Speaker 1: Do you think that it's moving too fast? Do you
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  Speaker 1: think that it happened too fast after relationship, out of
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  Speaker 1: friendship and out of per request. I'm not gonna bring
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  Speaker 1: up Sewan's name very often, and we're not going to
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  Speaker 1: get in depth with Sean. Okay, his name may pop
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  Speaker 1: up here or there, of course naturally. But do you
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  Speaker 1: think it was too fast or do you think it
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  Speaker 1: was the perfect thing you needed in your in your
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  Speaker 1: life and soul. Well, the thing is, from the outside,
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  Speaker 1: it probably looked fast, and it was fast. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: going to deny that. But I think I've said this
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  Speaker 1: before and and I'll stand by it that I think
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  Speaker 1: I knew for a year that my relationship wouldn't work,
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  Speaker 1: and I think I knew that he just couldn't give
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  Speaker 1: me the kind of love that I needed in my life,
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  Speaker 1: and he admitted that. And I think for a solid year,
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  Speaker 1: maybe half a year, I was already grieving the relationship,
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  Speaker 1: and I think I was just so prepared for it
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  Speaker 1: that when it happened, I knew what I wanted and
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  Speaker 1: I knew what I deserved, and I knew that I
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  Speaker 1: was happy on my own and that I wasn't just
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  Speaker 1: replacing somebody, right, So it can seem fast, but to me,
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  Speaker 1: it was perfect timing because I just knew what I
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  Speaker 1: wanted and I just didn't see it happening. I didn't.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, there's no way I'm going to meet
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  Speaker 1: somebody that quick that could make me that happy, and
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  Speaker 1: so it was just it was weird timing, but I
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  Speaker 1: don't think it was. It wasn't too fast for me.
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  Speaker 1: And that is kind of what I said to Sean
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  Speaker 1: on this podcast. I said, I think that she was
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  Speaker 1: grieving long before, and he knew that, and that's that's
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  Speaker 1: That's what I will say about about that podcast is
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  Speaker 1: that I don't feel like there was any um accountability,
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  Speaker 1: and I was just a little bit disappointed because I'm like, well,
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  Speaker 1: if I would have known that, that would have been like,
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  Speaker 1: this is news to me that you felt that way,
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  Speaker 1: because from what I knew, you didn't want to be
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  Speaker 1: with me. So I'm confused. Now. Yeah, um, We've talked
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  Speaker 1: about how there will be parts of the story that
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  Speaker 1: people will leave out, and you and I struggle between
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  Speaker 1: wanting to tell the story publicly or wanting to be
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  Speaker 1: the bigger person because some people will be like, oh
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  Speaker 1: my goodness, well now I totally hers seize her side,
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  Speaker 1: and then some other people will be like, that's so petty.
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  Speaker 1: She's just responding in a way, right, So for us,
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  Speaker 1: it's it's just so hard to keep it back. But
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  Speaker 1: I think you and I have kept a lot of
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  Speaker 1: things back in the past year or so that like
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  Speaker 1: we would love to tell everyone, but we know at
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  Speaker 1: the end of the day we are going to be
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  Speaker 1: the bigger people for not exactly because also at the
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  Speaker 1: end of the day, why would why does it have
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  Speaker 1: to matter what other people think? Like I know the truth.
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  Speaker 1: I know Sean knows the truth, and that's all at
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  Speaker 1: the end of that that matters to me. And that's
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  Speaker 1: the same thing with the relationship with Jason. It's like,
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  Speaker 1: if I don't show it, I'm hiding it. If I
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  Speaker 1: show it, it's too soon. Like you're damned if you do,
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  Speaker 1: and your damned if you don't. In this world, and
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  Speaker 1: if you have any sort of platform or on social media,
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  Speaker 1: are people watching you can eat an apple and you're
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  Speaker 1: doing something wrong, it just doesn't matter. So at the
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  Speaker 1: end of the day, I just always remind myself that
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  Speaker 1: we all we both know the truth, and that's that's all.
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  Speaker 1: On The Bachelor at reunion show, you talk about never
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  Speaker 1: expecting to date another Bachelor family member after Sean, and
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  Speaker 1: then Jason just fell into your lap. Yeah, well, I
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  Speaker 1: think what happened was Sean and I had a very
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  Speaker 1: difficult time on the show, and I think that was
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  Speaker 1: really hard on our relationship, and I think I was
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  Speaker 1: a little bit jaded by Bachelor relationships because of that,
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  Speaker 1: and so I figured, you know, I'm just gonna move
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  Speaker 1: past that and I won't date anyone from the Bachelor franchise.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm you know, I thought i'd be single for
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  Speaker 1: like five years. Really, yeah, I was, because I knew
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  Speaker 1: I was okay with that, And so when I met
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  Speaker 1: Jason and we did a podcast, I was still like
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  Speaker 1: so heartbroken and it was kind of just like I
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  Speaker 1: was like, whoever dates that guy is so lucky? And
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  Speaker 1: I was really like rooting for him to be the Bachelor,
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  Speaker 1: and then we just kind of became friends through that
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  Speaker 1: because yeah, I just I didn't it was like, my
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  Speaker 1: my heart knew that there was some something there and
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  Speaker 1: there was some reason I was rooting for his happiness
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  Speaker 1: and I cared about him, but I didn't ever see
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  Speaker 1: it as anything of what it was, what it turned
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  Speaker 1: do you feel like this when you were just watching
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  Speaker 1: when you met him, it wasn't. Yeah. Yeah. On The
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  Speaker 1: Bachelor at I was rooting he was my favorite on
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  Speaker 1: her season, but not at first. He grew on me.
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  Speaker 1: I think he did for everybody, and by the end
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  Speaker 1: of it, I just really I think I just really
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  Speaker 1: wanted him to be the Bachelor. So I wasn't watching it.
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  Speaker 1: I wasn't like, oh, I'm so attracted to that guy
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  Speaker 1: and I would love to talk to him like, nothing
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  Speaker 1: like that. It was when I met him in person.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, God, he's just such a good person
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  Speaker 1: and he's such good energy, and we have such good
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  Speaker 1: banter back and forth, and I think, like I thought
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  Speaker 1: we were gonna be friends. I'm like, I could see
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  Speaker 1: him as like a buddy. Yeah, because you're still very
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  Speaker 1: hung up on the idea that the Sean they could
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  Speaker 1: work itself out. Yes, I always believed that it would
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  Speaker 1: work out. Yeah. Yeah, I always thought, I'm like, there's
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  Speaker 1: no way, there's that's just I'll fight for this. Were engaged.
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  Speaker 1: Isn't it kind of crazy to think that that he
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  Speaker 1: could have been on Paradise last season? But then I
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  Speaker 1: think Jason didn't go on Paradise because I mean, correct
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  Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong, But he probably didn't go on
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  Speaker 1: Paradise because he thought that his chance of being the
• 12:44
  Speaker 1: Bachelor would have been higher if he didn't. And then
• 12:46
  Speaker 1: look at that Holton, the one guy of the three
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  Speaker 1: in contention, became the Bachelor after going on Paradise. So
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  Speaker 1: how do you think your story would be changed possibly
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  Speaker 1: if he would have ended up on Paradise last June. Well,
• 13:01
  Speaker 1: I'd probably still be single. I'd probably still be saying
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  Speaker 1: I'm not going to date anyone from the Bachelor franchise.
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  Speaker 1: I wonder if it would have changed your perception of
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  Speaker 1: him at all, I'd probably be with Nick. Well, now
• 13:13
  Speaker 1: that you bring it up, is it going to be
• 13:16
  Speaker 1: weird to be in the same room as Nick at
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  Speaker 1: our wedding? No? And I'll tell you why I called
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  Speaker 1: him the other day? No way, what tell you? More? So,
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  Speaker 1: I think Nick and I have always just had this weird,
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  Speaker 1: unspoken like tension. Yes, yeah, whether sexual or otherwise. I
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  Speaker 1: don't think it's sexual. I don't know's it was. It
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  Speaker 1: was also like like a little bit of anger towards
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  Speaker 1: each other. I think, you know, I never really got
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  Speaker 1: to explain to him about sending him home. It was
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  Speaker 1: he was definitely blindsided. I think because that situation and
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  Speaker 1: because of the show, it weighed so heavy on Sean.
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  Speaker 1: It became a problem in our relationship for so long
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  Speaker 1: that I became bitter at the situation, and when the
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  Speaker 1: truth is that Nick never did anything wrong to me,
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  Speaker 1: but I was bitter at him because Sean was so
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  Speaker 1: bitter because it affected our relationship. I was trying to
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  Speaker 1: protect my relationship with Sean. So people are always like,
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  Speaker 1: why are you all mean and Nick, And I'm like
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  Speaker 1: that I don't. I don't want to be. It's just
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  Speaker 1: I'm protecting my relationship, which that's clearly been an issue
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  Speaker 1: since the start that he admitted, and so I was
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  Speaker 1: always just had this weird thing with Nick where it
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  Speaker 1: was we didn't talk about it, and then he his
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: feelings were hurt because I would take these small jabs,
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: so then he would take these little jobs back and
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: so on the reunion, I had said something on social
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: media like they were doing a word association game and
• 14:37
  Speaker 1: he was like, they were like, uh no, they said
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  Speaker 1: right reasons and I said, not Nick, oh, how they
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  Speaker 1: pery presented. I'm clearly joking and the show pokes fun
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  Speaker 1: at him. We poked fun at him, he pokes fun
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  Speaker 1: at himself, and so I don't see it as like
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  Speaker 1: a job, but he took it as one, which I understand.
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  Speaker 1: And he wrote under the caption like tells me to
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  Speaker 1: come on the show doesn't pick me, still making jokes
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  Speaker 1: at my expense, Same old, same old, and then did
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: like an eye roll, and I was like, you know what,
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: we just need to talk. And so I talked to
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: Jason about it, and I was like, do you think
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  Speaker 1: I could just call him and like we can just
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: finally have an adult conversation and he was like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I think you should, And so I called Nick. I
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: was like, hey, do you still have the same number,
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: because I still have it and he was like yes,
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  Speaker 1: And so I called him and we just had like
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  Speaker 1: a really nice adult conversation about like he's like, look,
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  Speaker 1: did I do anything wrong? Why do you keep jabbing me?
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  Speaker 1: Then I explained it and he was like I get that,
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: he goes, but can't you get a new joke? And
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: I was like, I was like that's very fair, Like
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  Speaker 1: I will get a new now that you're with a
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  Speaker 1: new man, you can get a new joke. Yeah, I'll
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: get a new joke now, yeah, we had ano, so no,
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  Speaker 1: it won't be weird. I think it'll be great. Oh
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: that's so great, man. I didn't hear from either of
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: you about this conversation. It just might be seeing Nick tonight,
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: so I'm sure he's going to bring it up. It
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: just happened. That's so interesting. Well, we obviously, you know,
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: we tried not to. We didn't want x Is there.
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: Our plan was that we didn't want x I get things, so,
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: like we had, we chose over Sean, obviously because you
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: and I are far closer than Jared is with Sean um.
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: But then with then Vanessa, there was you know, Jared
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: works with her. But we definitely didn't want to put
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: Nick in an uncomfortable situation. And it's not as if
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: they told us don't invite so and so. It's not
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: like you said, don't invite Sean. It's just that we
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: were just doing that on our own. We wanted our
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: friends to have the most fun that they could have
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: that day. But the lingering thought was, even though we
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: prevented this, we can't prevent Nick and Caitlin being in
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: the same room together. So how's that gonna work? Yeah,
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: that's toy fine, and the like, this is your guys day.
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: What don't worry about who you invite or don't invite
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: her who's upset? This is your guys day. So you
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: just you just keep that in your Well. I'm glad
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: that you and Nick are are friendly. Now we're fine.
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: You did talk to Becca before dating Jason, and you
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: asked kind of for permission, but she's engaged. Like I understand,
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: I think it was Kurt, isn't really kind of you
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: to do that? But was it necessary for somebody who's engaged. No,
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: I it wasn't necessarily asking for permission. It was more like, hey,
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: I just want to tell you before it just comes
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: out in the media or like something is like that,
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: because I mean, she really cared about him, and I
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: know that she's happily engaged in that. I knew it
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: wouldn't matter. I knew she wouldn't be upset. I knew
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: she wouldn't say no, please don't. It was just more
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: of like a girl code, like I'm just gonna let
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: her know just just so that she isn't surprised by it. Yeah,
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: that was it. Okay, that's very nice, and she was
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: like blessings all around. She was like, can we double date?
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: I was like, abs freaking lutely speaking about very like
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: just speaking of phone calls that happened within Bachelor Nation
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: that are just so weird. I thought that we would
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: bring up that one time that I called you in
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: Bachelor in Paradise my first season, so Bachelor Paradise too,
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: and I literally called you after Jared dumpy for the
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: first time, saying like this isn't gonna see a future here.
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: And I got on the phone with Caitlin and I said,
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: what did you do to him? Like I was just
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: sobbing and you were in Chicago with Whitney and Becca
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: And it was the most immature a thing of me
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: to do, just absolutely his state. I think it was
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: like hysterical, you know, like I was in such a
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: highly emotional state. I didn't know what to do with myself,
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: and I didn't want to blame myself, so I like,
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: in some way blamed you. Well, I was also blaming
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: Jared for being hung up on you. Still, I don't
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: think he blamed me. No, Yeah, I think it's funny.
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: It was like you were cry laughing as you do,
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: and you were more like, like, what did you do
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: to him? Mohammy, Like you didn't know what you were feeling,
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: and I don't. I didn't take it as you were
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: blaming me. I think you're just genuinely asking. Yeah, truly. Okay, Well,
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: actually I wasn't blaming you. Yeah, blet's backtrack here. I
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: wasn't blaming you. What I wanted to know was what
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: it was about you that had gotten his attention and
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: affection and what I didn't have it. Don't ever blame yourself.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: And isn't it just crazy that way it works out?
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: It's it's the most beautiful thing in the world. Like
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: I always say that. That's what I said to Becca.
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: I said, it's a beautiful, weird little world we live in,
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: Like it's just you just connect with people on a
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: level that nobody else can relate to, and you, I
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: don't know how to explain it. It's it's really beautiful,
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: but it really, it really is. We are so open
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: and honest with each other in a way that I
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: don't know that other can sit and talk about all that,
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: you know, like, oh, yeah, he was my ex and
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: you had to ask me what I did to him?
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: And what was it about me? But now you guys
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: are together and I'm dating Becca's X and you know
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: it's it's it's just weird. It didn't just end up
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: that phone call either. I spent like six weeks just
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: texting you about like what it was and like how
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: he behaved with you and how I could get there.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: I was so ridiculous. But the truth is he was
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: in a better mind space going into your season. And
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: then when he realized basically because he had only had
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: one serious relationship and the reason that his best friend
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: signed him up for the show was because his ex,
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: who like they were still like a little bit too
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: friendly to like say that it was really over. I
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: was messing with him a bit emotionally, and she was like, no,
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: this is this is BS. I'm going to sign him
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: up for the show. And then when he met you,
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: I've thanked you for this before, like on stage in Boston,
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: but you really opened his eyes up to a new
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: different kind of woman, more outspoken, like just funnier, um,
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: just more out there and what I mean, some guys
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: don't know what they've gott until it's gone, you know. Yeah,
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: And then he was like, oh man, I never thought
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: I could feel that way again, that I felt it
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: with Caitlin, and then they shoved him into that situation
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: and they're like and he was just like, no, I don't,
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: I don't work like this. Well, you are a little
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: jaded coming out of a show like that and then
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: going to get into another relationship, like when you just
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: you start overthinking and you don't know what's real and
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: what you know. And I think too for Jared, Like,
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: my favorite thing about you, guys, is that you never
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: changed who you were for him. You wanted to, but
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: you didn't. That's that's true. Yeah, I couldn't become you,
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: even though I do always say if there was somebody
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: whose personality I can switch with, I would I would
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: choose Caitly. Yeah, I've not told you that before that. Well,
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: there you go. I'm just gonna take that clip and
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna put it as my ringtone, my alarm for
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: when I wake up and just remind myself that you
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: want my person Yeah, totally. And I wanted your personality
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: truly since the first day I met you. When we
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: were first in the Bachelor Mansion. We were in the
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: first group of fifteen because in our weird season. There
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: was like there was there was thirty and then there
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: was fifteen that came in. Then Chris like took a
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: break talked to us it was just fifteen, and then
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: they brought fifteen in. But I was watching you the
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: whole night. It was you and Britt and I was like,
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: when it comes to like outwards it and I know,
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: isn't that crazy? Isn't it crazy that the first night
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: I was most intimidated by you and your co bachelor.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: I was like, between their their beauty and their personalities,
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: because there was something about you two that both lit
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: up the room and your confidence was just like wow,
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: um yeah, I could never act that way with the
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: guy that I thought was hot right away. Oh man,
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: I thought I was one of my lot can I
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: thought I was the tits on that show? Like I
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: really did, I really did. Well. You really came in
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: with that. You know, you were like, oh no, I
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: got this from your entrance, which I later saw to
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: just how you behaved with him that first day. You
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: were so outgoing when everybody else was so nervous. Yeah,
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: I don't know what I mean. It might have been
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: the tequila, but I also just I don't know why.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: I just felt comfortable in that situation. I still to
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: this day don't know why. It's just like it didn't
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: phase me, and I don't know what that was from. Well,
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: I can relate because I think the day that I
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: had casting weekend for Chris's season, I went through the
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: whole process of meaning with the BAT producers to background
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: checks and help people and then just having the producers
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: like come and visit and all that stuff. I got
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: my on the fault with my mom that day and
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: I was like, I'm doing it because I wasn't really sure.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: There was stuff was going well with a guy that
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: I really liked, and I really wanted it to go
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: well for a very long time, and it was all
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: finally happening, and I really was like, I'm not sure
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: if I want to do it. But after going through
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: just the casting day, I thought, I feel like I belonged.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: And I called my mom and I was like, I
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: belong here. That's what I felt too. I felt like
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: I was supposed to be doing that. Yeah. Yeah, well look,
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: I mean like maybe we had that feeling because we
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: both ended up finding our person that It's that's another
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: weird like I believe so much in universe stuff, and
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: I was, what's crazy is I was reading a book
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: when I was going through the hard time, and I
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: read this book UM called Light is the New Black,
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: and it's this book about paying attention to signs from
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: the universe. And when I met Jason, all these weird
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: signs kept happening, like your mind would be blown. I
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: told you that. Give me a couple of examples. Okay,
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: So after the podcast, I sent him a picture of
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: us to post. And let's clarify you were broken up
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: with Sean at this point hadn't gone public with that news, correct,
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: And so I sent him a picture to say, here's
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: a picture in case you want to post. Then I
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: was watching the Lion King on my flight home and
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: he was watching the Lion King on his Instagram stories
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: and I didn't know. We both didn't know, and then
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: we found it, like, that's so weird that we're watching
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: and he was watching the Lion King on his Instagram
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: stores like he like posted something like I'm watching the
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: Lion King, like really yeah, at the same same time,
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: and we didn't know. And then I figured I was like,
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: that's weird. And then he goes you actually kind of
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: remind me of Nala and he and he like because
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: when I met him, my hair was all messy and
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: wild and I was just like, you know how I am.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: I'm like wow, like big personality. And so he said
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: I reminded him of Nala and then so that was weird.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: And then I got home, but I can see you're
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: very palncy, like very palncy, very councy. And uh so
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: then I went to get into an uber and um,
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: the uber driver stopped at a crosswalk and a dog
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: was crossing the street and he started talking to me.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: He goes, I'm really sorry for picking you up a
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: little bit late. Um, but I took a wrong turn.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: He goes, in, I passed the car of my dreams
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: and I just believe in signs from the universe. And
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: he's like, and I think I was supposed to pass
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: that car because it just reminded me of what I'm
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: working hard towards. And he was like, you can't ignore
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: the universe, and I was like yeah, and then I
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: was like, oh my gosh, I just read a book
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: on this. That's so crazy. And he stopped at the
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: crosswalking a dog passed and he goes. I used to
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: be so terrified of dogs, he goes, but my wife
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: made me get one. Now I love dogs. I'm like,
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: don't get me started. I love dogs. I said, what's
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: your dog's name? He said Nala? No. Yeah. Right after
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: you talked about like signs from the universe, and it
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: was and then it just didn't stop. There's so many
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: signs and that I wasn't even still thinking at that moment, oh,
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: I'm supposed to be with Jason. I was just like, WHOA, Okay,
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: the I'm just paying attention to like certain things now,
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: like not thinking, oh, I'm supposed to be with Jason. Like,
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: but I do believe in certain things like that, like
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: things happening for a reason and that you know, you
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: went on Chris Soul season too, because you know, like
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: everything that's happened has led you to to where you
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: are now, and the same thing I know. Um, there
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: was this really cool time one time I was on
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: the bus from New York City to Syracuse and I
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: was worried about everything, and I was looking at the
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: window just daydreaming, like kind of trying to picture what
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: I wanted because I used to before, like my dreams
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: actually became reality. I used to just dream all the time.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: I'm totally a fan of the power positive thinking because
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: there's really not anything I've dreamed up that didn't meet
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: to happen, which is pretty crazy. So then there's this
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: man who looked like Santa Claus, who like it was
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: who I call my Morgan Freeman in in like what's
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: the movie Bruce Mighty. Yes. He tapped me on the
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: shoulder because he was looking at my reflection looking out
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: the window, and he goes, I don't know what you're
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: thinking about right now, but I just want to let
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: you know that everything's going to work out. What yeah,
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: you're And I was like what? And I that that
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: will stay with me forever. He's like, kids of your
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: generation are always worrying about their future, but like, just
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: trust me, I know he was your little Santa Claus
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: is one of the two. I found a picture and
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: one of my girlfriends sent me from ten years ago
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: where I was writing out my goals in what I
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: wanted in life, and I had written out that I
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: wanted to be on TV and have my own radio show,
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, well, podcasting is kind of and I
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: went on TV and like I also had build my
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: own empire and have my own businesses. Like, I'll look
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: at what you did. I know, so you are pretty
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: outword about the fact you just wanted to be on
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: TV and I got my masters in broadcasting. Yeah, I
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: want to be on TV, like to us, right, So
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: is it annoying when people are like, I like the
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: fact that we admit to going on the show for
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: not necessarily the fame of it, but like the experience opportunity. Yeah,
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: the opportunity and the fact that it could help us
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: reach our goals. Yeah, of course, right. I've always been
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: open about that, So I never, for lack of a
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: better term, shi on anybody who seems to be there
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: for the wrong reason. How do you feel about people
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: when they call out the wrong reasons on the show?
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: I go back and forth because sometimes, like this season
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: on on Colton season, I was like, oh my gosh,
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: these girls are like is it bad that I think
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: that there's a difference between social media going on for
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: social media versus going on to like build a brand,
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: build a career. Yeah? Yeah, I saw it as like
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: like I'm like, was everybody just trying to be that
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: girl on TV? They like they they kind of have
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: no shame in their game where they just kind of
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: went on and they're like, I don't care if I'm
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: the idiot girl, like, it'll get me Instagram followers. Where
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: I when I went on, I mean, we didn't know
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: the power of social media when we didn't have it.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: We were like for the last pure generation. Yes it
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: really was, and so I I mean, I knew I
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: wanted to build some sort of brand. I knew I
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: wanted to have more opportunities. I knew I wanted to
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: have some sort of platform, but I didn't know what
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: it could be. Where now girls go on and they
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: know what it could be. But I still respect that,
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: Like I'm like, hey, if you want to just go
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: and be crazy and get Instagram followers and like sell
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: whatever you can for a hot minute, like do it.
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: I didn't hate them for wanting to make money, No,
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: you really can't. So I'm like, but it's kind of
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: to me, it's kind of ruining the show where I'm
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: just like, I don't know if I believe anybody for
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: going on. Well, I guess that brings us to the
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: topic of Cassie, like she obviously wasn't ready to get
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: engaged or maybe even be in a serious relationship, because
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: Calton was even at the end, she was like, we
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: don't have to get engaged. So if it gets to
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: the point where so many people are going on the
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: show and they're not even ready, then I think it's
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: becoming an issue. I think Yeah, for me personally, I said,
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: I'm going on for my career. However, if I meet
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: the man of my dreams, bonus bonus, and if Crystals
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: is my soul mate, I wouldn't have a problem moving
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: to Iowa for the love of my life. I was saying.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: I said the same thing. I'm like, I if anybody
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: really knows me, they know I'm actually like a little
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: bit of a homebody. I like being out in like
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: in a silent, quiet place with land, Like that's what
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: I want. I could live in a shoe box if
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: I was happy, Like I don't need you know, Like,
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: I totally believe in that same thing. If if you're
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: with the right person, doesn't matter. I was the same
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: people are always like I remember Jimmy Kimbell being like,
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: there's no way you would have wanted to live on
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: a farm. I'm like, yeah, I really wouldn't. I mean,
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: I would have been fine if he was the love
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: of my life. I will always put love and family
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: above career. Absolutely. Yeah, me too so And at the
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: end of the day, we are we were not there
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: for the wrong reasons. We were there for realistic reasons, realistic,
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: very realistic, and we still believed in love exactly. Yeah.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: I felt the same way. I was like if I
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: fell in love out this, Wow, what a bonus. Yeah.
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: Speaking of career, Jason is still working his regular job,
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: which is super hot and attractive. Is there ever any
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: jealousy where he's like, oh, you're the one that gets
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: like the cool job and the fame. Zero. He is
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: my hype man, that's what you want. He is legitimately
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: the most proud guy I've ever been with. He is
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: so proud of me, and like he wants to because
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: he's so smart with numbers and like on the financial
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: side of things, like he wants to be a teammate
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: with me. He's like, you are creative, you are like
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: this personality. He goes no shame in saying this. He's like,
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: I am the brains and ill. You're not lacking in
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: that department. Even No, And he would never say that
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: but he knows I'm smart in the things that I do,
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: and he's smart in the things that he doesn't. Together,
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: we make a really solid team. And he is literally
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: just like his mom said this too. She's like Caitlin,
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: he's just a happy, go lucky, good energy guy. Like
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: he's just not one time would he ever make me
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: feel like he's just not the most proud boyfriend out there. Cute, Yeah,
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: so cute. He's really I call him my hype man
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: all the time. He asked me to not call him
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: my cheerleader, hy man, cheerer, same thing, one is more man.
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: Like I think I said cheerleader. One time He's like,
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: maybe maybe don't say the term cheerleader. And I'm like, oh,
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: I'm in a nice way, but like, yeah, he's my
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: hype man. He really is. He really is. Um. Okay,
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: So if we were to like go back in time
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: and let's just let's take a little bit of a
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: let's take a little bit of a nostalgic moment, talk
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: about where we first met and all that, and then
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: we'll resume with Jason and current and current stuff. So
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: what was your first impression of Chris Souls and can
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: you believe that you developed such strong feelings for him
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: in hindsight. Uh my, I yes, I can believe it
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: because I thought he was so attractive. I thought he
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: was the hottest ever. I did too, But did you
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: think that before we were on the show, you did? So?
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: On Andy season, didn't think he was that hot. Uh.
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: Then they started doing like the Bachelor makeover on him,
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: and I was like, Okay, he's getting cute. He's getting cute,
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: and pictures that I was looking at and then when
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: I saw him on that driveway was hot. Yeah, I
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: always I can tell you. I remember telling my sister
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: and my best friend while he was on Andy season,
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I'm always down with a farmer,
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: Like I thought that was so hot. I used to
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: be like, I grew up in a really small farm
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: town in Alberta and Canada, and like every guy I
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: dated lived on a farm. Growing up like that was
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: I used to lie to people and tell them I
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: lived on a farm because I thought it was cool.
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: And so to me, I was like, oh, the farmer
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: really does it for me, And so yeah, I always
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: thought he was hot, and then in person, I thought
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: he was even hotter. And then I thought I I mean,
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say anything bad about Chris because I
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: don't really have anything bad to say, but he just
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: he was kind of like he had a tough time
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: stringing words together sometimes, and I think he was nervous. Sure,
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: but I thought I was the only one that did
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: it to him, So I was that's why I was
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: so confident. Probably I was like, this guy gets so
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: nervous around me, and then I watched him like, oh no,
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: he's like I love your interpret of that. That's awesome. Yeah,
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: That's that's where my confidence level was that. I was like,
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: this guy wants me, Like I always say, I was
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: the most confident I'd ever been on that whole show
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: going into the night that he dumped me. So were
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: you not expecting that at all? I had a complete
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: out of body experience. I'll never forget. It was me,
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: Whitney and Becca standing there and I was making jokes.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: I was like being so funny and I'm like, I'm
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: Becca like it was like, oh, can I talk to
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: you for a second, and she was like, I'm going home.
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: She looked at me, She's like, I'm going home, and
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: so she was like, can I talk to you for
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: a second and they went away and I look at Whitney.
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: I was like, well, you know it, she'll be the bachelorette.
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: And I was like it's just you know, it's you
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: and I know, like yeah, I can't wait to meet
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: his family. And then she came back and I was like, oh,
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: I guess Whitney's going home. So Becka walks back into
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: the Roadstrem and I'm like, well, I'm sorry, what if
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: you walk back into the roadst room with a rose? No? No,
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: she just came back and stood there and I was like, well,
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: I guess Whitney's going home. And then when he didn't
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: call my name, I was like what. And then I
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: remember Chris Harrison walking up and doing the whole like Caitlin,
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, please say your goodbyes. And I was like,
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: this is an outer body experience. I am that girl
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: on TV right now that didn't see that coming. Chris
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: Harrison is telling me, I'm like, say your goodbyes, and
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: it was just a complete out of body I did
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: not see it coming. I was just shocked. Absolutely. So
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: you were picturing an engagement with Chris, Yeah, Like I
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: almost got nervous at one point because I was like, shoot,
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: am I ready to get engaged because he's for sure
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: going to propose to me? No way? Yeah that's hilarious. Yeah,
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: it was quite funny. So how long do they get
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: took to recover from that breakup? Um? Then they made
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: me stick around in Iowa for twelve days after I
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: flew home from Baling, and then you were over it,
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: and then I was. It was like twelve days of
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: hanging around like a producer and sitting in a house
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: all cooped up, and I was just so confused and
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: lost and like I couldn't believe it. Then they made
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: me do b roll and walk around Iowa and I'm like, oh,
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: he's going to come back because he made a mistake.
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: They're gonna make me do beat. Jared thought, though, really
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: I do that because they make you do this beat role.
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: And then you're like, oh, well they must be coming
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: back to get me and they want to catch it
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: the b roll in Iowa. Well, so you guys that
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: don't know out there, and really nobody does. They sent
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: cameras to Jared's hometown to film with his parents and
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: him after Caitlin dumped him in Ireland. Oh wait, I
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: didn't know that, Oh you didn't know. Oh yeah, they
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: had producers and cameras come and so he was totally
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: ready to go back to you, which was another reason
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: that he went into Paradise, being like, no, she caught
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: he in his mind, he was like, she contemplated having
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: me back. I did, he did, only only because okay,
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: I shouldn't say I did. Bennett was like so convinced
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: that I it was Bennette of the Jar. Yes, so
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: he sorry, I shouldn't say i'd Bennett wanted me to
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: do because I got so confused at the end, and
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: I was just like like, who am I and what
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: am I doing? And did this guy like I thought?
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: I was like, Shawn is a girlfriend back home? Like
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: I didn't know at that point anything, and I started
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: getting really in my own head. And then he's like,
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: you know what, you just got to go back and
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: knock on Jared's door. So it was his idea. I
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: shouldn't say it was. Were you torn between Ben and
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: Nick then for the top two spot? Uh? No, I
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: knew when it was the final three, I knew I
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: was going to pick Sean. I wanted to send Nick
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: home third because I didn't want to do that to
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: his family and meet his family again and have to
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: put him through all of what he just went through
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: on Andy's season. But the Sean Nick feud was such
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: good TV that, you know, I didn't really have a choice.
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: I mean I probably did, but I was like whatever.
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: But it wasn't like, was We're feelings for Ben stronger
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: than Nick or we did? You just know straight up
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: you're like, I'm picking Sean, So whatever hands up in
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: the air, doesn't matter who my number two or three is.
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: That's exactly what it was. That makes sense. So then
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: let's go back to Chris for a second. What was
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: some standout memories that you have from that season. I
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: have two with you that I'm going to talk about. Okay,
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: I remember when you went into the tent. I remember
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: the same thing camping, and then I went into the
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: tent after you. Chris was sleeping in the tent. It
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: was so awkward. I don't know what I was thinking. Well,
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: I don't know what I was thinking either. I think
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: they're just the jack. It was Jack right, like I
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: five each other on our way. But it was like,
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: you take any time you can get at that point,
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: you know in the show, you you don't really get
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: a lot of time with them. So you're like, well,
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: he's just sitting alone in his tent right now, Like
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: I'd like to get to know him better, like everyone
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: just everyone automatically goes to something sexual. But you're really like,
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: do I have a connection with him? Like, I might
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: as well take this time figure it out. And so
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: you went in the tent first, and then I did.
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: And then on the big five minute like premiere for
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: the whole season, they showed me going into the tent
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: and made me look like I was going to be
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: the villain, but it was actually like you in there something. Yeah,
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: And then and I think I said something about you
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: that I wanted to I would rather chew glass and
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: wash it down with a bag of hair than lose
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: to you. But why me? I remember you said that,
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: and then you told me later you know what, maybe
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: at the end of the day it was actually about Kelsey,
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: but they edited it to make it look like it
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: was about you in the premiere. Yeah, that stands out
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: to me. Um, it stands out to me. When I
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: told you I thought you should get your period in
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: a shark tank. Oh that was the line you told
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: me that and then we ended up going into that
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: hotel and we shared the same hotel room. And then
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: and then you laughed because you liked that I had
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: a sense of humor about Yes, you did. That was
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: the one thing I always tell people. I say that
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: you are one of the most confident people I've ever
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: met in my whole life, because people always like to
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: make fun of you for the crying and the whole thing.
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: But I'm like, you, you know who you are, though,
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: and you're actually so confident. Thank you you, And you're
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: just and you're confident in your emotions and just who
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: you are as a person. But that I remember when
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: we shared that hotel room and I was like, I
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: can't cry. I don't cry. Oh my god, that was
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: the story I was gonna tell. Yeah, and then and
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: then I was like, I love this girl. Well, first off,
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: thank you for saying the thing about my confidence, because
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: that means you truly know me because I don't care
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: if I'm I'm crying. I'm like, yeah, I don't care
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: who sees me crying. You never, you don't care. No,
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: I really don't love that. But the hotel room I
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: was thinking of because I remember you saying I don't cry,
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: and you're like, I think I need to cry, though,
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: I think you would be healthy for me. At this point,
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: I think we were like ten days in because our
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: season didn't leave the Bachelor Mansion were Yeah, because we left,
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: we had four full episodes at the Bachelor Mansion. That's
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: like twenty days, isn't it. That's like maybe i'd say
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: it was probably that's that's true. Way out of yeah. Okay,
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: So it was about ten days and you're like, I
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: think I really need to cry, but I haven't done
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: it yet. So let's watch a sad movie. So we
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: watched The Fault in My Start, the Fault in the Stars,
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: the Fault in Our in Our Stars, and you fell
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: asleep and I just sat there. I was like, well,
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: I guess I'll just cry again. Yeah. I was like
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: a robot. I don't know what was wrong with me.
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: I just couldn't cry. You didn't cry until you're eliminated, right,
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: Oh no, I definitely can't do that. Yeah, um, Carly
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: and I cried and I was like, I'm not gonna cry.
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: Actually this is they didn't air this, but I was like,
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: I'm I'm not gonna cry. And we went on this
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: group date where he picked brit to go to the
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: um save a horse ride, a cowboy date, and he
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: took her to the concert and we all had to yeah,
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: and we all had to sit there and like wait
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: for them to come back from the concert, just the
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: two of them, like idiots, and I remember doing tequila
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: shots and then I remember being like, okay, I'm I
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: can't hold it in. My lips started quivering and I
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: was like, I'm gonna cry, and I didn't want anyone
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: to see, so I was like, can I go to
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: the bathroom for a second. And they knew I was
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: gonna go cry and that I was just trying to
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: be tough. So I went to the bathroom, and then
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: they sent somebody else in the bathroom with me, because
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: you sign in the contract. If you go into the bathroom,
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: the cameras can't follow you, but if another girl is
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: in there with you, then you can the cameras can
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: come in. So they sent Megan in there with me,
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: and she's like, are you okay? And I was hysterically bawling,
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: like couldn't catch my breath, and the camera burst in.
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: I fingered the camera, give the middle finger, pushed it.
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: I ran out of back door and I just booked
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: it down the back alley and all these camera guys
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: start chasing me, and I made a quick left turn
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: and then another quick left turn and I just walked
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: back into the Rose like or the group date, pretending
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: like nothing happened. And I just sat down, was like,
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: did you feel like you look like you're a card? Yeah?
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: And then they called me and they're like, okay, let
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: we need you for an interview, and then they made
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: me saw But anyways, Martine, I think was the camera guy.
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: He looks at me and goes, Caitlin, you're on a
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: reality show. You can cry on camera. You can't run
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: away from me, like we'll find you. And you guys
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: out there just letting you know that, like the sound
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: and the camera guys are not supposed to interact with
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: us at all. So when you make the camera and
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: the sound guys laugh in an interview, you feel so accomplished.
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: Oh I always I that was my goal. In every interview,
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I better see that guy's shoulder shakes, like
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: the camera better bounce up and down on his shoulder
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: because he's laughing so hard at what comes out of
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: my mouth. Absolutely, it was my goal. Our season was
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: the best. And I'm not just saying that it's real.
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: I'm actually serious when I look back, and obviously we
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: were there so we know, but I think we had
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: so much fun and it was like a good time
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: in that show, like where the show was at, you know,
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: and and where we were and the no social media,
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: like it was just a good time to be on
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: the show. It was so so good. You talked about
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: taking tequila shots right there, and now I have to
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: ask how much of your back or experience do you
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: feel like you were tipsy to say the least. Okay, fine,
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I basically drank through everything because it
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: was just so available in that time. How do you
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: think you would have been on Today's Bachelor, where there
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: is a drink limit, a free fill? Yes please? Um,
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: I think I don't know, Like I I can handle
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: my alcohol though, like I I don't know if that's
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: really something to brag about, but I just I don't know.
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: I grew up in a really small town where like
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: I remember having my first cooler when I was like twelve,
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: which is really embarrassing. Like I hid behind a hill
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: and tried to have like my first drink at twelve
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: and then I've just been building up my liver since
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: and so I feel like it was really my time
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: to shine on the Bachelor and like drink through everything
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: and be Okay, I'm joking. People don't think I'm an alcoholic.
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: I'm not, but like it's I don't know, I just
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: I feel like I casually could drink through the whole
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: day and it just kind of like relaxed me. I
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: slept bed or at night. Probably not, but it felt
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: that way, and it just helps you get through things.
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: So how many times do you think that you're on
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: the show and you're like, oh, probably at a not
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: so good level right now. Yeah. There was a few
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: times where I was actually really upset with myself the
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: next day because I was like, I don't remember what happened.
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: I had to redo a rose ceremony one time on
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: a group date, and they had to fill you had
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: to redo a rose ceremony group dates. It was just
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: like one of the very last group dates. So so
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: one it was an actual rose ceremony where all the
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: guys were standing up there and it was in um
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: where were we, uh Texas, Texas and I remember going
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: up and I was like, okay, so this week you
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: guys was like so fun, so hard, but so fun.
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: And then I blanked on my whole speech and then
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: I just started winging it and they're like, oh, we're
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: having in trouble. We're having trouble with your mike, and
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: so they didn't want the guys all know. I was
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: just hammered. So they came and they pulled me there
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: like you gotta pull it together. So how long did
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: they give you? About twenty minutes to regroup? And I
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: pulled it together, but I still I remember watching that
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: road ceremony back and be like gosh, Caitlin. And then
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: another time I it was like, um, it was one
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: of the ones where I had to hand out the
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: group date rows and I had to redo it because
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: I was sloppy, and I just said, like Clint, what
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: the hell is wrong with you tonight? Like no, I'm
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: not putting up with that. I'm just giving it to Sean,
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: like we all know, I'm gonna give it to him.
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: And then they were like, so I had to redo
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: it and they had to for camera purposes. They had
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: to sit producers in around like they were the guys,
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: so that I was making eye contact in certain places
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: and it looked like I was actually doing the right
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: thing and like do a whole shield, and no other
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: guys were even there. No guys were even there. They
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: were just yeah, okay. So just for you guys out there,
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: sorry I keep interrupting. I need, I need to give
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: you little things. We don't often do camera trinks on
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: The Bachelor. I was on a Millionaire Matchmaker. It was
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: it was called a million Dollar Matchmaker when it was
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: on WE It was a mistake, but it was the
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: only reality TV program besides Happily ever After that I
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: participated in, and it was soft scripted, that's what they
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: like to call it. And it was also just super
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: stage where I had to do like every little movement
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: multiple times. Just you guys need to know. The Bachelor
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: is not like that. So just because Caitlin said she red,
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: she redid a couple of scenes, that is not everything
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: to do with me drinking. She was because she was
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: drunk that they and that was the only I That
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: was the only time I had to redo something like that.
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: Other time they just were like, oh, you got my
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: issue that I went back and did it again. But that, yeah,
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: that was just and I got in trouble for it too,
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: like they were like, you can't do that. Fair, fair, fair,
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: we need to put a limit on Caitlin. She needs
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: to drinks. Well I'm like, you can't just throw out
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: like here I am breaking about how I can handle alcohol,
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, yeah to redo rose ceremony. But like
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: they you know, they're just at that point in the show,
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: alcohol was just They weren't shoving it down your throats
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: by any means. It was always up to you. But
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: it was very available, is what I like to say.
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: There's such a misconception that people are just so drunk
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: on the show, but absolutely not, no, no, no, And
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: and they do take like they will watch out for you.
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: But I was just kind of the silent thunder where
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: you thought I was fine until I was and then
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: they're like, oh, there's nothing we can do now, but
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: they do watch. And now I do think that to
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: drink limit is it's good because let's be real, if
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: you have to an hour still, yeah, that's a lot.
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: They did that at the reunion and I was like, okay, okay,
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: that's fine, Yeah, that's fine. You can't get a good
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: buzz off. You really can, Um, I couldn't think of
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: a better time for you to plug your new wine label.
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: What a transition, You're good you Yeah, It's probably the
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: thing I'm the most excited about. I think after the show.
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: I've always had an idea, but I really wanted to
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: gain my followers trust, and I think coming right off
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: the show, you know, people are like, oh, what are
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: you just gonna start selling us stuff? And although I
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: still did, I tried to really pick and choose what
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: I was putting out there on Instagram because I I
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: thought about the longevity of of you know, having a platform.
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: So I was like, I'm gonna turn down a lot
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: of money right now just to be able to later
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: like show show them that I care about what I'm promoting.
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: I believe in what I'm promoting, and then I'll be
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: able to do bigger things down the road. And so
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: I always wanted to do something with wine, just because
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: I've always had a love for wine, and Um, I
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: used to work in the restaurant industry. I used to
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: teach um all the servers about the wine on our menu.
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: We would do wine courses with Smalley's just to like
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: learn more. And I just have always been kind of
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: passionate about learning and drinking it, and so yeah, now
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: it just kind of was the right timing for me.
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: And I was like, hey, you know, you just gotta
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: jump on this and do it, because it's been four
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: years since I've been off the show. I'm ready to
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: to you know. I saw the success with my scrun
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: Cheese and how there's so many like women just come
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: together through the craziest things, you know, like us, and
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: you know, we come together through liking the same guy.
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: We women can just have this weird you know, I
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: don't know duality of it. I can be angry at you,
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: but then we'll find a way to come together through it,
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: you know. And and I find that with the scrun Cheese,
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: and I just saw like that it was more than
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: a product. At the end of the day, all these
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: women were like, we felt like they were in the
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: Scrunchy gang, and they were like switching and swapping with
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: each other and talking about it, and they all made
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: new friends. And then they come to the live podcast
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: and they came by themselves because they knew they'd meet
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: other vinyls there and just like hang out as a group,
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: and I just want the same thing for the wine.
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: I just want these women to come together over the wine,
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: and I feel like they're part of the Spade and
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: Sparrows gang and it's just a community. At the end
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: of the day. It's so fun. What types of wine
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: do we have? So I've got a cabs have uh, Pinot, grigio,
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: and rose, so one of each, one of each. And
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: I'm I know I'm biased, but I have tasted many
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: wines to figure out the one that I wanted. Uh,
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: And I am obsessed with the rose. I'm obsessed with
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: all of them. But the rose is the best rose
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: I've ever had in my life. Yeah, I don't want
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: to describe it. Well, it's I don't like anything sweet,
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: so it's not sweet at all. It's more dry. But
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: it's also like it's the I call it a summer sipper,
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: but I probably will drink it year round. It's just
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: like the perfect patio drink. But rose is also a
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: trend right now, Like I swear it's like trendy. It's like,
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: you know, when Brussels sprouts came in, Like Brussels Brussels
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: sprouts is a thing. When I moved to l a
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: because never on the East Coast was I ever offered
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: Brussels sprouts or was it on a menu, was one
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: of those your parents forced you to eat? Like nobody
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: liked Brussels sprouts. And I feel like rose is like
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: like it's just trendy to drink rose, and it used
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: to be a summer thing, but now it's it's year round,
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: and I just feel like it'll I think everybody will
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: enjoy it. It's like, you know, some people like really
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: sweet wine, some people like really dry wine. I just
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: feel like everybody is going to love this rose. They're
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: gonna love all of it, but the rose's bomb. Okay, Well,
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: at this point, I've done a really good job like
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: trying to transition easily into subjects. But now I'm looking
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: at my list of questions and I'm like, okay, I'm
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: just gonna have to be random. Now I'm the most
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: random on my podcast. There's no transition. I'm like, I'm
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: literally talking about one thing and then I'm just like
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: like a squirrel, and I think of something else, and
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: then I jumped to that and then they're like, you
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: want to circle back to what I'm actually here for,
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, all right, right, right, right, So you're
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: you've been very good Ashley, Okay, great, thank you? Does
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: the so here we go random question time? Guys, We're
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: gonna have a fun random question time and then there's
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: like a serious random question we're gonna go into. I
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: love both great. Does the end of Instagram scare you?
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: Because not only do you make money off sponsorships on Instagram,
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: but also you promote your podcasts and your scrunches and
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: your wine through it. So of course I feel like
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: there's all there's there's gotta be a new thing and
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: it's gotta be up and running any second. I know.
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: I think about this daily. But okay, that's a great question. Uh. Yes,
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: I'm terrified of the end of Instagram. I think about
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: all the time. How long Facebook has been a thing though,
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: And I don't think Instagram will go away, but there
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: will always be something new and I hope to use
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: the Instagram platform to build whatever is the next thing
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: that's coming. But I just feel like I've I've built
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: like a solid community that I I don't think it
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: would ruin me, but it definitely would be a bump
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: in the road for career wise. Yeah, On the same note,
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: do you get threatened by up and coming girls uh
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: and the fact that they can steal business from you? Um?
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: I mean I'll think about it, but when I really
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: think about it, I don't feel threatened because I I
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: just feel like I've already built my what I what
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: I love to do, and I already have my supporters,
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: and I just I don't know, I've never seen such
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: passionate people in my life as the people that are.
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: You know. I was at the Boston Live podcast and
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, wow, this room is packed like
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: over people and they were just ferocious fans. Yeah. I
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: just feel like it's just it really is, like I
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: call it a family at this point. So I don't
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: really get threatened, um, because I'll always just do my
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: own thing, and I just feel like I'm you don't
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: think somebody's going to go ahead and do what you
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: do better because it's really based on your personality. Yeah. Like,
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: I just feel like there's only one Caitlin Bristow out there,
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: And maybe that's cocky to say, but I just feel
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: like that's it's it's who I am, and I just
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: feel like I've I don't know, no, I love that
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: you say cocky things sometimes because that's just how we feel. Yeah,
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: it's how I feel, and I almost I get excited
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: when um upcoming girls like Hannah By. I think she's
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: going to be a little bit like myself with you
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: mixed with Emily. Yeah, she'll be a mix. And I
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: could take that as being threatening, but I'm going to
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: use it to my advantage and like talk to her
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: and have her on the podcast, and I want to
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: I want to champion the other girls that come into
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: the to the show. And I think that's actually taken
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: me a little bit of time. Like I think three
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: years ago I would have been threatened, but I think
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: I'm just past. But you just you have your own
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: solid brand. Yeah, I think it's been a good place.
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: You sound like you are. How do you feel like
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: you aren't right now versus where you were in this
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: time last year. Yeah, it's completely completely different. I was.
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: I always compare it to when I was in my
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: last relationship before Sean. I started to lose myself at
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: the end and I didn't know who I was and
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: I saw myself going in that same direction at the
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: this time last year, and I remember thinking, do not
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: get to that low place again because of somebody not
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: loving you the way that you know you deserve to
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: be loved. Do not let yourself go there, be stronger
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: than that. And I just I remember being very close
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: to getting to that low point of losing myself again
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: and needing to do something about it. And I was,
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: I was. I was really unhappy and lost and confused
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: why somebody couldn't love me the way I thought I
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: should be loved. And it just I I never felt
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: safe in that relationship. Um, I think that was because
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: of the show and that I obviously did something that
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: had hurt somebody, and uh, he could never get past that.
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: So to me, it was like I never felt safe.
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: I was always like he could leave me. He's not happy,
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: he doesn't like he fully let himself surrender and be
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: in love with me. He's just, you know, hurt, And
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: so I just never felt safe. And now compared to
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: the last year, I just feel like I'm like I'm
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: established career wise as a person. I'm happy and the
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: happiest with myself I've ever been. And I also have
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: somebody that I feel more than safe with. Do you
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: feel like if you met Sean off the show you
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: guys would have had a more promising feature. At the
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: end of the day, I just don't think we were
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: meant to be. I think we both wanted it to
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: be meant to be, but it just wasn't were we
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: we I'm the kind of person that I am. I
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: really give my whole heart to somebody, and I'm very
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: vulnerable and I expect the same back. And I think
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: we're just two people that love differently and don't and
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: and it just wasn't a match. It just wasn't a match.
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: Like we you can look back on all of our
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: times Rick and Donna, like all of our funny things
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: we did. It was more like we had a solid friendship,
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: but but the love part of it just wasn't what
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: it needed to be. You just weren't compatible love wise. No,
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: it seems like sparks on TV, and it was, and
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: it was, And I just think I think we both
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: wanted it so bad from from that moment. But as
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: much time that went on, I think we just kept
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: paying onto that fantasy of when we met, and it
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: just kept we just kept growing further apart. To be honest,
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: we were just on very different pages. So I I
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: do think that the show definitely didn't help our cause,
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: but at the end of the day, we're just not compatible.
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: At the end of a day, even if you didn't
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: have like that rift that the cause that the show caused,
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: you still would have found out your incompatibility as far
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: as love languages and stuff. Exactly exactly how did you
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: feel when you found out that Crys Souls was part
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: of that accident. Honestly, I felt sick, like I felt
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: sick to my stomach, and I felt sad for so
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: many people, and I just said, I, I don't know.
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: I was like in shock, I think when I first
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: heard about it, and I just I just felt bad
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: for everybody. I think I only asked this because I
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: feel like everybody who knew Chris felt the exact same way.
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: We're all like going about our thing around the country
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: that day, and we were all having this indescribable weirdness
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: and ache inside us. Yeah, that is And it really
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: it was tough because you know, there's when you're in
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: the media, people want to jump on any stories. So
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: then it's like people are reaching out, like magazines and
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: just media that want to know how we feel about it.
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: And I didn't want to comment. No, I didn't comment.
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: I didn't comment out in my life. Yes, I was like,
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: I'm going to take a knee on this one because yeah,
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: I just I'm not I don't know details, I don't
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: know what like. Yeah, I just it was just that
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: was a that was a tough, weird day. You talk
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: about thinking that you were going to be single for
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: years after breaking up with Sean, and that you were
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: going to be totally okay with that. But I know
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: that you want kids and you're still young. Obviously your
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: thirty four see the wine glass, your thirty fourth birthday
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: is approaching this summer. So if you're going to be
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: single for another five years, you would have you would
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: have probably used those frozen eggs that you frozen a
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: couple of years ago, correct. I think that was part
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: of my like confidence in being alone. I was like,
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: you know what, it frozen my eggs. I'm cool. Like,
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: I just to me, my mom is sixties six sixty,
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: oh my gosh, and I'm like, no, wait, she seems
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: like she's still in her forties. And I just her
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: energy is the same as my energy. And I just
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: don't like to put too much thought on my age
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: and when I should have babies and and I don't
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: like that whole biological clock is t I mean, I
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: hate to bring up the biological clock because I've gotten
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: in the past. Do you feel that, No, I mean
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: I definitely considered freezing my eggs. Jared came around and
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: we got engaged at the prime time because I was
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: going to do it as a thirtieth birthday present to myself. Yeah,
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: but then but then Jared express his feelings just months
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: before that, and I was like, good to go, or
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: at least, you know, sometimes I tell I'm like, Jared,
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: can we freeze your sperm? Because I always get worried about,
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: like if he gets in an accident. And I know
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: this is crazy, but this is my wordy stuff that
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: if if he were to get an accident, I would
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: still want to have as kids and that like all emotional,
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: but yeah, I'm like, why just why just freeze my eggs?
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: Why can't we freeze your sperm? Because I still would
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: want I wouldn't want to be with anybody else, especially
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: not in like my thirties. I surprisingly got a lot
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: of um a lot of flak for freezing my eggs
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: and being so open about it. Why because I think
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: women who had a tough time getting pregnant we're a
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: little bit sensitive that I was just celebrating freezing my
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: eggs and how easy it was for me, which I understand,
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, I'm like, I'm
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: doing it to like what if I can't have children
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: down the road, or what if something happens to me
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: and I because I froze my eggs, I have that
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: wouldn't you want that opportunity to And I think people
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: just didn't really have the knowledge that they do now
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: about freezing your eggs. So but yeah, it's I'm just
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: I'm totally okay on my own, Like I'm I just
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: I actually love being alone. Um So, what I was
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: just looking for was like, if somebody adds value to
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: my life like Jason does. I was so open to it,
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: but I just didn't think i'd find it that quickly.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: Don't you feel like when you're doing your own thing,
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: you're killing it and you feel like you could be
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: on your own forever. Is usually when the guy comes around.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: That's exactly right, that is exactly And I think I'm like,
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: of course, you just like this happened so quickly, because
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: I'm in the right place for it, and so is he.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: You know, he's thirty, he's established, he's done so much
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: with his education and career, and he's just such a
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: he's just such a good guy. He's so solid. He's
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: just a solid human. Little Jason's not He's not little now,
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: He's a big Jason. You're living in Nashville now, and
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: you're living in Nashville because that's where Sean lives, and
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: you have a beautiful house that you own. So how
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: long do you see yourself living in Nashville, especially if
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: Jason has a solid job that he doesn't necessarily want
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: to leave in uh Cattle. Yeah, I don't really know.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: I'm just kind of going with the flow right now.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: I bought the house and and I have a lot
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: of plans with renovating it, Like I want to redo
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: the kitchen. I want to I'm actually doing a deal
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: with Wayfair. We're going to partner and decorate some of
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: the rooms and like redo it the way I want,
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: Like I already made it my dream home. Downstairs, I
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: still have a few more rooms to decorate. God, I
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: sound like that. I still got a few more rooms.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: I live on h g TV. This is when I
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: knew I was thirty. I was like, I'm putting on
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: vay too much. But that's the thing. I like, you
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: still love going out and do. And then all of
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: a sudden one day I was just like so excited
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: about cabinets and I don't know what, like, I love cabinets.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: I love cabinets so much. Only white and gray ones, though, yeah,
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: of course, of course is there any other kind? And
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: so I have lots of plans to redo the house
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: and and as of right now, I mean, we definitely
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: talk about the future, but we're just going with the flow,
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: you know, and we're just we'll figure it out. I
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: don't know where we'll be. And if you do get married,
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: you'll probably a loope. Probably that sounds something I would do,
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: like Vegas did. Did Jonas brother actually marry her? Well,
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: you're talking to the right I know, I just thought
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: of that. So what happened was there have they have
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: a planned wedding, a big, huge plan wedding in France
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: sometime over the summer, but they needed to get their
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: American marriage license before they got married in France. So
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: they thought we're in Vegas were surrounded by friends and
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: family as mine as we'll do it now. So it
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: made total sense. I might do that because I need
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: a green cardio. This Canadian needs to stay in the States.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: I think, go find a way. Let's talk about Dancing
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: with the Stars, because you were the woman of all
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: the women who should do Dancing with the Stars. But
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: it seems like bachelors get to do Dancing with the Stars.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: But there's only been one bachelorette who has been able
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: to do it, Trista Trista Denis. But except she was
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: she was out of her contract, so she I wasn't
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: out of my contract, so they had the power to
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: tell me no. They couldn't tell her no because she
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: was out of the contract. It was ABC, like I
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: think it was the first It was the very first
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: season of Dancing with the Stars, so it was kind
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: of like kept in the family and oh Bay, it
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: was the first season of Dating the Stars, which was
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: like two six or something. Yes, so then she but
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: she was sent home first and then Melissa Ryecroft did it.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: But you know, they kind of needed needed to throw
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: her a bone after what Jason together, like, you know what,
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: we're going to get the stars, but not the Bachelor,
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: I gig, but that's kind of like in turn what
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: she preferred, right exactly. So yeah, when it came to
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: I mean, I had a contract signed for Dancing with
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: the Stars and and they were going to announce me
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: on Good Morning America and then last second I was
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: told no, you cannot do it. Your passion should be
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: Sean and I don't. He said, we know who he is.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: He said, I am sick of people coming off of
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: my show and wanting fame, uh, instead of focusing on
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: the relationship. And I was like, oh, why not do
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: that to the Bachelor's It doesn't make any sense. That's
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: that's the whole thing that frustrates me, is that that
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: doesn't make sense. And I said, well, dancing is a
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: passion of mine, Like I grew up dancing and I've
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: never done ballroom dancing, but I love dancing, and he goes, well,
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: Sean should be your passion, and I was like, you're
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: telling me I can't have two passions in life. That
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: doesn't make any sense. So yeah, I was quite frustrated.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's what almost it's like three and a
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: half years later, and I'm it's still boils my blood well,
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: not because I didn't get on Dancing with the Stars.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: Looking back, I think that would have been bad timing
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: for me, and I'm gladship right, so I'm looking back,
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: I'm glad I didn't. But it's the it's the principle
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: that that I feel like it was because I was
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: a bachelor. And and then he said, you know, we'll
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: never have somebody from the show do Dancing with the
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: Stars again, and Nick and Crystals Crystal right after me.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh, come on, like at least convinced
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: me a little bit that you meant what you said. Yeah,
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: is that the falling out that you kind of have
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: with the franchise because there was a while there that
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: you didn't feel like you look at them as friends? Yeah?
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: I think, you know what, deep down, I think a
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: few things. I accidentally spoiled my season on snapchat. Oh
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: my goodness. Uh. That was the one thing that was
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: the first question I had for you, knowing that we
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: were going to do this today. But I didn't write
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: in my notes. I need to know the reaction that
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: production had when that happened. And you're a reaction because
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: your heart you must have just been going. I can't
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: even imagine almost throw up. I can't believe you didn't.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: The frenzy that was going on your body, it was terrible.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: So I think they knew that. I was kind of
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: upset with how they're portraying me a little bit, and
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: so um the spoilers that were out there were that
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: I picked nobody, and can I tell you when Jared
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: arrived to Paradise, not only was he messed up because
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: they sent a camera crew to his house because he
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: thought that you were going to ask him back but
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: they but he also thought that you chose no one, right,
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: So I think in the back of his mind he
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: was like, there's still a chance. Yeah, And I was like, yo, boy, yeah,
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: You're like, I know the real deal. I know the scoop.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: So I I think they thought I did the snapchat
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: on purpose. I think they thought Caitlin so rebellious that
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: she meant to spoil it to save her relationship with
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: Sean or something like that. I think they think I
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: did it on purpose, which I of course did not.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: That's a five million dollar contract. I just blew. Of
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: course I didn't do it on purpose. I felt terrible.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: I thought Sean did it. I yelled at him, thinking
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: he did it. Then I found out it was me.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: I immediately deleted it, but it had already been happy.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah. It was just spread like wildfire, and I
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: was like, and I just started hysterically bawling. I almost
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: threw up. We were just in so much heat that
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: we actually called Ben, who I hadn't talked to since
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: I broke up with him. Don't you always just called
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: Ben in a crisis? Is there really anybody else you
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: think to call? You? All of us? Even in this
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: time when he's dealing with like Sean as his as
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: his friend me, I still called them. But he he
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: was going to fly down and jump in bed with
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: me too, just to do another snapchat, just to be like,
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: oh look, I'm in bed with him, to like, could
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: you imagine if he had flown down to do that?
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: How cute? I know he was probably like you, but yeah,
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: so I think they were like, yeah, yeah, they were
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: upset with me about the snapchat and the production was
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: I mean, they were filming Paradise and they were getting
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: terrible cell service and they had to stay up through
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: the night to have meetings to try and figure out
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: what to do. And I think from that into you know,
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: they were bitter, and they knew I was bitter. And
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: I don't think Flice ever wanted me to be the bachelorette,
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: to be honest, I don't. I really don't think he did.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: I gotta gotta throw it in there. Do you think
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: the poll was legit, the one between you and and Britt?
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: Do you think that the guys truly voted for you?
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: Because I truly did. The guys voted for you too.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: But I also think that production knew that you would
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: carry the season better than and you give more drama
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: and juice. Yeah, So I think that they were going
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: to go with you either way. Do you think that
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: now looking back? Yes, because they already had all the
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: dates set up and it was like rap battles and
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: like certain things that in comedy dates, like certain things
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: that I'm like, those are those are clearly for me.
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: And I also think the guys, the majority of the
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: guys were my kind of guys over you know, the
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: kind of guys that they would put on a season
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: for Britt. So I think Jared was cast it for Britt.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: He was, and he and he voted for her. Yeah,
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: And I'm not mad that's his stereotypical type. That was
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: the type that he thought he had before he met you.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: And yeah, so you know what, Jared, give what the
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: Times bro, thank you for coming around to some real women. No,
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: I'm just kidding, but yeah, it's I think it was
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: just like a combination of a budget, bunch of things
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: that happened. I don't think Lice wanted me to be
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: the bachelorette, so I think he may be thought like, well,
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: I have control to say no, she's still under contract.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: And then it was just I don't think he thought
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: i'd call him out for it either. It was on
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: Twitter one day. I definitely went after him, but I
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: was mad. I'm like, what, it doesn't make any sense
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: that Nick could go and be the Beyond Dancing with
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: the Stars after being the Bachelor. After what he said
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: to me, I'm like, that doesn't make any sense. This
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: must be sexism. So that's when you just went off.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: Was when Nick was cast that I lost this. I
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: was like, screw this, I'm not staying silent. I'm out
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: of contract, and I went off. Yeah, and despite all this,
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: you still have a rose tattoo on your arm. Isn't
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: that funny? I actually came around because I realized close
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: to the end of my relationship with Sean, that I
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: wasn't bitter at the show, that I was grateful actually
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: for it, and that I didn't have to be angry
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: at everybody. Everybody is just doing their job. It set
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: me up for a lot of success and opened a
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: lot of doors, and I was sick of being bitter
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: about it, and I wanted to remind myself daily of
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: that pivotal time in my life and that it's nothing
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: to be upset about are bitter about that it was
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: such a cool opportunity, And not only did like I
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: could have been really upset and hurt and gone hid
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: in a corner because of the slut shaming and all
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: the hate I got, but I channeled it into a
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: really positive place for women. And at the end of
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: the day, I just felt like it was such a
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: It was such a good experience in my life that
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: led me to so many amazing things that I needed
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: to remember it as a positive And I'm like, what
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: better way than to tattoo it on your body. I
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: used to be like, I never want to see a
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: rose again for as long as I live, and I'm
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: like most beautiful flower. I do feel like we all
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: go through those phases where we feel a little restricted,
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: but then at the end of it, like I was
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: watching your reunion show and just being like, Jared aren't
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: too thankful, and he is like, it's it really is
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: just a really special thing, and that and that, I
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: just feel like I'm back in ABC's good books. They're
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: back in my good books. Were in a good place,
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: and I don't know, it's I think I think that
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: has a lot to do with me being in a
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: better place too. Though. Well, I'm super proud of you
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: for everything that you've done with being the Bachelorette. You
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: not only you didn't stop once the show was over,
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: you really expanded upon the opportunities that were given to
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: you to the utmost. And I would like to end
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: this podcast on this beautiful note. However, we cannot. We
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: have to commemorate my my podcast co host, Ben Higgins,
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: so we will do that right after this break. We're
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: back with Caitlin and we're gonna we're gonna talk about
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: my lovely co host, Ben, who could not be here
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: because he was traveling so much this week. But what
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: was your first impression of Ben and when did you
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: think Damn, I like this guy. Oh that's a good question. Uh,
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: you know what, I'll never forget. On night one, he
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: looked at me and he said, Caitlin, you're our bachelorette.
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: You won by a long shot. And I was like, okay,
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: who's this guy and he looked yeah, he looked me
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: in the eyes and pumped my tires and I was like,
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: I kind of like this guy. So it was night
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: one actually, and then down the road, I remember having
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: this conversation with him and going I thought he voted
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: for Britt because he seemed like Britt. Yeah, he totally
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: seemed like a brit guy. So I asked him and
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: he just started laughing and I was like what. He goes,
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: do you actually think I didn't vote for you? And
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: I was like, well, I didn't know. I don't care
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: if you didn't, Like how do you know? You don't
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: know us yet? And he's like, Caitlin, you like meant it?
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: He was like yeah, he was like of course I voted,
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: but he probably was like rubbing my shoulder and I
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: was like, oh my gosh. And then I and then
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: I was like what a sweetheart. And then uh, when
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: I broke out of my hotel room and went down
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: and snuck out with no cameras and found his hotel room.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: I saw him, yeah, but I saw him in the
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: backwards hat, and I was like, oh, damn me talk
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: the backwards hat does good things too. That yeah, and
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: I thought he needs one, but it does good things.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: And then and then by the end, I was just
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: like we, I mean, Ben and I would have never worked,
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: but I just saw him. I was like, I think,
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: I think I want that guy in my life, but
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: not like that. I feel like the show actually holds
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: guys a lot, holds them back because if we look
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: at their their gross like pictures, they're they're ABC pictures,
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: the first releases of that terrible, always gross because they
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: think they should like wear something cool or stylish or formal,
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: and most guys look best with a backwards hat and
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: a T shirt or sweash it on. Yes. I always
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: said that, I'm like, you need to just I wanted
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: to come out of the limit for Crystal Season in
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: a backwards hat myself and that would have worked for
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: you and Converse sneakers because I was like, wait, that's
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: how I dress. I don't want to be in a
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: little cocktail dress, like I want to come out and
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: just like barely any makeup and backwards had be like up.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: I mean that when I don't think that's what they
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: go for, but that I always said that. I'm like,
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: I wish they showed all the guys in just a
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: backwards hat and like casual gear because that's the hottest.
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: That is absolutely the hottest. Sorry, Jason, I know you
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: always wear blazers. Yeah, you know what, that's very ironic
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: considering Jason just is the most naturally dressed up of
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: them all. When Jason puts on a backwards and a
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: casual and doesn't know that, I'm like, no, no, no,
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: it doesn't bug me. Are you kidding me? Doesn't bug
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: me at all? But you can date them for a
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: little long and send him back if you want to.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: Do you respect that Jared looks hot a backwards hat? Yes? Yeah,
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: I totally think Jared looks hot a backwards hat. That's
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: like on minerals. And they're like telling me looks sexy
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: with this hair push back, but that I totally just
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: backwards hats do weird things for me and I When
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: Jason put it on, literally, I can't keep my hands
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: off of them sneaking of can't take your hands off Jason.
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: You've recently said that the first data, the first time
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: you got aids man, Ye okay, that all you're gonna
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: You're gonna quote me that all you needed was a
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: good dry hump, which I'm gonna I'm gonna be very
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: Ashley I, very anti Ashley I and and very anti
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: almost famous right now and say all a girl really
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: needs is a good joy hump. Thank you. Apparently that
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: was t m I for people. But let me tell you,
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: it's so funny because headlines, can you know, that's clickbait?
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: So and I do it too. If I have a
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: guest on my but you know, and they give me
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: something good, I'm going to use it as clickbait. That's
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: just the biz. Uh. So it's so interesting because I
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: the amount of things media could pull from my podcast
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: and put in headlines to make me look disgusting. Not
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: that I think dry humping is disgusting again, all for it,
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: but like they could take anything out of context. Right,
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: So that headline and when that came out about my
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: first took up with Jason, I'm like, really, like I've
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: said so much worse on my podcast, and that needs
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: to be your headline, Like his family is going to
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: see that thing, and they didn't inject my humor where
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: I do. On my podcast, I always do confessions. So
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: it's like my confession is something really embarrassing or really
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: funny or something that like I'm like really trusting in
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: my listeners to not tell anybody that I'm just it's
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: kind of a safe place. So that in a safe
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: place with like five hundred thousand listeners, should I should
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 1: know better than that, Like I should know that anything
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: I say could be in a headline. But I wasn't thinking,
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, okay, I mean, yeah, hum, so you
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: said it and yeah, yeah, you know that happened, and
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 1: you do you regret like having said that or you're
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: just like, hey, guys, that's me. I don't know why
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: this is a thing, because this is something that I
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: would always say my audience here, stuff like this. Yeah.
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: I think I don't regret it. I think it's like, well,
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: we're too consenting adults have between a guy and a
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: girl who really like each other, who have their clothes
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: on and are fooling around. I don't think there's anything
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: wrong with that I said I was on my period.
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: That apparently was t M I where I'm like, it's
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: two thousand nineteen. This is biology. Women, mens, we have
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: our menstrual cycles, and I don't think that should be
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: anything to be ashamed of, and like it's a confession.
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: Maybe throw that in there, you know. No, So I
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: don't regret it at all. I just don't like the
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: way it came out and looked really bad, like the
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: amount of d M S I got of women just
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: like disgusted with me. Yeah, which I mean I'm used to,
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: but so I'll be super honest. When Jared heard that,
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: he wasn't disgusted by the comment, but he did feel
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: sympathy for Sean. Okay, Oh I didn't look at it
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: like that. Um well, yeah, I would have never ever,
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: Anything I do does not I would never do it
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: to hurt somebody else's feelings or see other things. But
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: we all need to remember that I saw things too,
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: and I saw headlines too, and I saw photos too
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: before I even had anything like that with Jason. And
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: people can say that, oh no, that's not true, that
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: was media. I saw things too, and that was really
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: soon for me and all I told myself, was, you
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: know what, he he doesn't want to be with me.
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: He is allowed to do whatever he wants with whoever
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: he wants. We are not together and we've had a
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: really rough go for a while, and if that's what
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: he needs to do, and if that's something that makes
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: him happy right now, I have no comment and nothing
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: to say about it because it's not my business anymore.
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: It's not my problem anymore, it's not my responsibilitynymore, and
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: it's not my business anymore. And he is more than
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: welcome to do whatever he wants. And that was you know,
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: I saw all the headlines. I saw photos, I know
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: some someone very personally who's very close with that person
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: that he had rumors about with. I know things, and
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 1: I all said was I hope he's happy. So I
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: understand that things. It sucks to see your X in
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 1: the media and it sucks to see those headlines. But
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: at the end of the day, like I feel like
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 1: I've said at the end of the day times, we
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 1: both have said it so many times, and I was
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: just thinking like, oh crap, like we need to come
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: up with a different expression of what we will. But
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: at the end of the day, But I do under
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: but there's totally something there. There's something that a lot
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: of people won't be able to understand. That it's one
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 1: thing to see your ex on social media, but there's
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: another thing to see like to try to prevent seeing
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: them on social media, and yet the media won't let
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: you not see it. Right. And when I saw those
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: headlines with with Sean, I was like, Okay, well you know,
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna unfollow this. I'm not going to go on
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: my search page. I'm just gonna take the steps that
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 1: I need to not see what what could hurt me?
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 1: And I would hope that he wants me to be happy.
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: I haven't spoken to him. I want him to be happy.
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 1: It's just it's a weird world we live in and
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: there's gonna be headlines and I'm not you know, I did.
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 1: I didn't expect that to go out there and be like,
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: look Caylendraw, I alms Jason like I would have. You know,
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: I don't mean to say these things to like get
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: at other people, you know me, So it's I mean,
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 1: what do you do? What do you do? Know? When
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: it comes out of your mouth, you're it's with no malice, right, Yeah,
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: what do you do. Let's go back to bed. Now, Okay,
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: Ben is like perceived as this wholesome boy scout boy scout,
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 1: but I think that he has a little bit more
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: of an edge and everybody thing, So tell us about
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: the edge that you think you see in bed and
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: and then the darkness and the sexiness and all. But
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: he sells a girlfriend so well, and I have a boyfriend.
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm not gonna talk about I just think, Ben,
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 1: how hard is that to go on a show where
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: millions of people are watching you and you are given
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 1: the title the Perfect Ben, and you are you know this,
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 1: you are it on this pedestal of the perfect person
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: and that you're just this wholesome Christian. So how can
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 1: you not, you know, try and live up to that expectation.
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: And sometimes I just want him to, like, you know,
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: like post a picture of him giving the middle finger
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: in a backwards in and say something that he means,
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: like I just want to. I just always want to
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 1: like rough them up a little bit and be like,
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 1: come on, Ben, because he is but I mean, I
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: don't know he he does have a little edge, I know,
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 1: you know, he I don't know how much I can
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: say the guy like, you know, he'll shoot some whiskey.
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 1: He'll like you know, he he just needs to be
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 1: a little more honest. What on my I don't get
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 1: a podcast episodes. I did a drunk podcast whe where
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: we're like really we wanted to feel a buzz before
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 1: we started talking to my life Welcome to off the
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: Vine and uh, I think that we should do with
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 1: almost famous Ben and I have to whiskey and wine. Man,
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, he wouldn't let you air it wouldn't
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: the next day to be like no, no no, no. He
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: called and mark right here and be like okay, so
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 1: you guys don't tell actually what I need you to
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: edit this out and this out? Yeah exactly, my um.
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: We have a couple of listener emails right now and
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 1: I want to read them to you that they're they're
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: geared to you, Caitlin. From strangers to an admirer of you.
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 1: Over the years, you have had a spectacular impact on
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 1: my life. Your leadership, kindness, and attitude was the foundation
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 1: to what allowed me to be a fuller version of myself. Caitlin,
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 1: your wit, charm, and energy brings you in, brings everyone
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 1: in closer. To you. It's not a wonder why so
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 1: many people are love and adore you. Your charisma is
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 1: tirelessly captivating, and your personality makes you seem larger than life.
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 1: In fact, I would say being around you makes life better, bigger,
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 1: and more full of joy. I know, I'm like, you
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: want these You want these listeners to go over to
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 1: your podcast. Okay. The ups and downs of life never
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: seem to derail you from being a person who loves
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: well and loves intentionally. As a fan and friend, I
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 1: learned a lot from you, Caitlin. I am so thankful
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 1: to say that I know you, proud to that you
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 1: are a friend of mine, and thankful that God placed
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 1: me in a mansion in hopes of knowing you better. You, Caitlin,
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 1: are special. You're forever fan. Ben, shut up, No I
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: lied to you. It wasn't It wasn't a real fan email.
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 1: It was your fan, Ben Higgins. She's crying, guys, she's
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 1: welling up. I'll send that to you so you can
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 1: read it whatever you feel. Low. You know it's crazy
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 1: is when you were reading that, I'm like, God, that
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 1: sounds like something Ben with like, oh what I just
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 1: want to hug him. Now, how cute is that? What's
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 1: the nicest thing I think anyone's ever said to me? Beauty? Yeah,
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Ben, I'm calling you later. How cute
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 1: is that? Well? The one that got away, I'm just kidding.
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Wow, that was that like touched my
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 1: soul like that. I was listening and I started putting
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 1: my head down, closing my eyes because I was listening
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 1: to every word. I did not see that coming. What
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 1: a plot twist, Ben Higgins, you're you know, runner or
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 1: second up. I regret saying I need to shake him
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 1: up and rough him up and then he needs to
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 1: be more honest. I'm like, No, you're good, You're good.
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 1: All right, We're gonna let Caitlin basking that and then
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 1: we're going to wrap this podcast up with a fast
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 1: round of questions for her and for me. All Right, Okay,
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 1: we're back. Caitlin. You want to go back and forth
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 1: with questions, so I give you one, you give me one.
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 1: I'm into it. Okay, We're going to start out super
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 1: super easy. What's your favorite fast food now, especially that
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 1: you're a vegetarian, what I know? I never thought I
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 1: would be. I'm honestly, I love burger king veggie burgers.
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 1: They have veggie burgers. It's really good. It's really good.
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 1: Let's be honest. Is plain meat good or is it
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 1: everything we dressed it with all the condiments. It's everything
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 1: you dress it with. So veggie burgers with all the
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 1: sauce and the lettuce and the tomato and the onion
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 1: and the delicious bun. It's you don't just eat a
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 1: burger without dressing it up. I will tell you confession time.
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 1: This is actually confession on the Almost Nest podcast. One
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 1: time we went over to Nick's for barbecue. He only
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 1: gave us burgers with meat in a bun. He didn't
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 1: have any condiment. What kind of psychopath? I was like.
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 1: I was like, Nick, it's so cute of you to
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 1: have a s for dinner. Is there any catchup? Yeah?
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 1: What condiments? Ketchup? That's rude to eat a burder without condiments. Yeah,
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 1: I shook. I also this people. I don't know why
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 1: I get like self conscious saying this, but I really
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 1: like the fish filet from McDonald's. Okay, Jared and his
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 1: dad also love the fish falt. I've never had a
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 1: fish filet, but I do love to put like a
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 1: Swanson something in the oven and then I wrap it
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 1: up in a thing with tartar sauce. Please please go
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 1: today and get a fish filet, no cheese, add shredded
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 1: lettuce and tell me it didn't change your life. Why
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 1: not cheese, cheese, American cheese. Fish. It doesn't make sense
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 1: to me either. I don't push fish on my fish wraps. No,
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 1: you just don't do that. You just don't do that.
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 1: But shredded lettuce, the tartar sauce, the fish. It's delicious.
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 1: So will you eat fish? So I guess I'm a
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 1: pescetarian because I will hear from the vegetarians to see.
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 1: I feel like I could be a pescetarian at least
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 1: for a few months. Okay, I'm act. She also trying
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 1: to not have dairy right now, which don't go to no,
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 1: no no, and I can't because I'm I love eggs.
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 1: And but I watched a documentary and it's always starts
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 1: with a documentary. You know. My my kick for wanting
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 1: to be a vegetarian was actually blackfish, which was really weird.
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 1: But I just saw you heard about that. Yeah, but
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 1: I saw how many emotions animals have, and I just
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 1: applied it to all animals, not just whales, and I
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 1: was like, yeah, you have to stop eating meat. Well,
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 1: then I saw something on Ellen where I I so,
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 1: she's my favorite food. And then Ellen like chirped somebody
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 1: and was like, okay, so you will recycle to save
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 1: the fish, but then you'll eat them. And I'm like,
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 1: damn it, that's me. Ellen doesn't eat fish either, No, no, no,
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 1: she no animal products at all. I don't know if
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 1: fish have emotions. They don't. Curtr Cobain said in a
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 1: song it's okay to eat fish because they don't have
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 1: any feelings. And I will stand by that, like I'm
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 1: talking flounder. I'm not talking free Willy. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to eat a whale. Who from Bachelor
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 1: would you hook up with if you weren't with Jared
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 1: if Jared never existed, or who would you have a
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 1: crush on? Okay, I don't have to stay hook up. Um,
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 1: Can I tell you who I think the cutest has
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 1: been from past seasons? Okay, well, obviously from JoJo's season,
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 1: I thought that Wells was the cutest, which is why
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 1: Dad him in Paradise. Um. From from Becca season, I
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 1: probably would have gone with Colton, and then from we
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 1: skipped season Rachel's season, I would have gone within who
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 1: Dean Diana? They said Ian. Yeah, also I'm on my
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 1: second and a half class. Yes, okay, then the questions
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 1: are going to get weirder. I think that Jared knows
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 1: that I think that those are all the cutest guys too.
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 1: You're allowed to think guys are you wouldn't act on it?
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 1: And I was making you us. I was making I
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 1: forced you to answer that. Okay, you go, um, who
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 1: is your guilty pleasure? Musical artists? So I truly don't
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 1: believe in guilty leisures, but ums, just for the sake
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 1: of using the term in its essence, you know you
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 1: know how to answer this because my answer is Richard
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 1: Marks in like Chicago and like just all the male
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 1: soft rock. Well here's a terra wow. Um not guilty though, yeah, um,
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 1: I don't even know how to answer that. I don't
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 1: who who? Okay, So take yourself back to like high
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 1: school college and you be your friends would be like
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 1: can I see your iPod? And then you'd like to
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 1: I was like, all ninety degrees in saying Backstreet Boys.
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 1: That was like you didn't have any ol days on there. Um,
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 1: I really love the Beatles, but I do not that
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 1: guilty about definitely not guilty. Alright, moving on, damn it. Sorry,
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 1: but a disappointing answer. Um, one item of clothing or
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 1: anything that you want to burn of Jared's. I really
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 1: don't like this black button down of his. Okay, what
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 1: a black button? Black? Very acceptable, very acceptable. It feels
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 1: a little waiter ish for me. Okay. Yeah. It also
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 1: like I just have to be honest, it's black on him.
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 1: If it's not a T shirt and it's like more
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 1: of like a collared thing, it's not as flattering. Okay,
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 1: that's fair. Okay, that's a fair question. I made Jason
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 1: burn burn burn and like the fireplace. Yeah, no, I
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 1: we just threw them out. They were like these oversized
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 1: gray sweat shorts and I mean like sweatshort, No so
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 1: do I I mean oversized like I think they were
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 1: Fubou brand like oversized gray sweats. And I was like
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 1: he was wearing them. I'm like, could we burn those
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 1: or And he was like and you just like ripped
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 1: them off. He's like, hey, they're going in the garbage.
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 1: I'm like, thank you. Okay, wait, here's here's a little
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 1: bit of an off topic but on topic question. You
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 1: know how guys are always like I like you without makeup? Yes?
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 1: Do you think that Jason really prefers you without makeup?
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 1: Or he likes what he thinks is no makeup but
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 1: really is a little foundation and a little mascara and
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 1: a little bit of lipliner, you know what. I love
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 1: the I didn't try hard, but I try it hard. Look,
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 1: and the other day I absolutely broke out in this
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 1: hormonal actne around my mouth. You can see the like
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 1: I see a couple. Okay, So what I did was
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 1: overloaded it with retinal and burnt the s out of
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 1: my face. And I like, there's some sort of reaction.
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 1: So now I had like red burn on and I
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 1: was face timing him and I forgot that it was there,
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 1: and he was like, what happened to you? And I
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 1: was like, oh my gosh, and he goes, you still
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 1: look so beautiful, and I was like I felt it,
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 1: like exactly, I'm like that in three years. But he
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 1: he genuinely was like, oh, I was just worried about you,
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 1: Like I didn't know what happened. He goes he still
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 1: look so beautiful. I think he loves me. So I
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 1: think he loves me no matter what. At first, I
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 1: was really weird about you know. I would do the
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 1: like I'm not wearing makeup but I am thing, And
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 1: then I get over that really quickly, and I just
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 1: I find that I don't I don't ask him like
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 1: what do you prefer and he doesn't say what he prefers.
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 1: But I can tell that the more natural I am
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 1: I get, he compliments me more. Really so, Jared's always
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 1: told me that he likes me without makeup, And even
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 1: when I was getting like some makeup trials, I was like,
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 1: how do you how do you like it? And he
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 1: was like, I like you better with that makeup. But
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 1: sometimes when I do myself just medium, I can see
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 1: the affection and he'll be like tabbing my butt more
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 1: and holding my waist whore I'm like, oh, I wonder
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 1: if it says something to do with the fact that
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 1: I'm wearing a little bit of makeup. I know, I
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 1: think at the but I'm not gonna say it. I'm
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 1: not saying at the end of the day, I think
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 1: that men genuinely do love their partner all natural, but
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 1: when they get spiced up, they're like they need a
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 1: balance though, because they want to see you looking like
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 1: you're putting effort in it, because they appreciate the effort.
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 1: It's the same thing when the guys do it. Like
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 1: what I love Jason in the backwards hat and in
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 1: sweats and like just chilling. But when he is like
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 1: we went to an engagement party that day and he
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 1: looked all daf for I was like, damn, Like, you know,
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 1: I like Darondet of Tucks and I liked him dressed
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 1: totally down. Yeah, I like extremes. Yeah, all right, what
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 1: was your most embarrassing moment in your let's say your thirties,
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 1: in your thirties, Uh, the most embarrassing moment in my thirties.
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 1: You know, it's so crazy, as I actually have a
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 1: really hard time thinking about this. I do too. Um,
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 1: I guess like my dad, I am so so close
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 1: with my with my parents, well my whole family. My
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 1: dad is like the big guessed angel Jim, sweetest man
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 1: you've ever met in your whole life. And he was
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 1: so he knows who I am. He knows I'm this
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 1: like wild child, free spirit, do what I want and
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 1: and I think he he had a little bit of
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 1: a tough time watching the Bachelorette, but but also was
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 1: very very proud of me and always told me that.
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 1: But the most embarrassing thing for me was he I
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 1: found out he didn't go to the grocery store for
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 1: a while because my face was all over magazines with
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 1: like pregnancy rumors and like sex scandals. And to me,
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 1: that was like the most embarrassing thing that he didn't
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 1: want to tell me that he couldn't go to the
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 1: grocery store, but I found out because he was like
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 1: a little bit like I think he felt sad that that,
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 1: like he knew things weren't like he was like, don't
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 1: do that to my daughter. And I feel like that's
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 1: the most embarrassing thing I can think of in my
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 1: thirties was that my dad didn't want to go to
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 1: the grocery store because of my decisions on a Showah alright, okay, Um,
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 1: if you had an envelope in front of you and
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 1: it inside had the day that you were going to die,
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 1: would you open it? Man? I knew you were gonna
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 1: come up with a better one. Good either. No, I
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 1: don't think so. I wouldn't either. I wouldn't either. Some
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 1: people say yes because they're like, well, i'd want to
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 1: live my life. I'm like, I wouldn't live. I would
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 1: be like paranoid to do it and bedn't countdown to death. Yeah,
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 1: you'd just be I'd be like depressed, I wouldn't want
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 1: to do anything, and I'd be like, what am I
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 1: going to die? That way? Like what? I would just hide.
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 1: I know that when I'm having like stressful times, if
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 1: there's something that's all consuming in my brain, that I
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 1: can't really do anything else. So I feel like that
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 1: would take effect with this, where I'd be like I'd
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 1: be I'd be thinking so much of that that I
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 1: wouldn't actually be accomplishing things. Yeah, same, same, I'm the
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 1: same fantastic pross that one offully All right, now I
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 1: have my two good ones. Okay, yes, M give up
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 1: sex or wine? Wine? Oh you love wine. I thought
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 1: that was gonna be harder for you. You have, But
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 1: intimacy is the most hortant thing in a relationship. There
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 1: you go, wouldn't you say, Hey, intimacy does not have
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 1: to mean sex. But to me, I we all know
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 1: I'm not a virgin. That's why I asked you the question,
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 1: and I think, um, yeah, I would never pick wine
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 1: an alcohol over a healthy relationship. What about food, Well,
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 1: that's just survival. Actually, I can't survive without food. Okay, fine,
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 1: I mean like eating corn flakes every day, or the
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 1: plainest thing you could think of. Wait what Wait that
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 1: didn't make sense. I don't get it. Yeah, never mind,
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 1: moving on your turn. Okay. Uh, funniest behind the scene
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 1: moment with Jared that nobody knows about, like behind the
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 1: scenes like camera yeah or not, just something that funny
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 1: that people like, a story that I don't know. I
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 1: saved my worst one for last. You saved your best
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 1: behind the scene Okay. Well, I mean I think that
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 1: the one, the moment that happened not on camera at all,
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 1: that I wish people knew was the whole fall of
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 1: two thousand, which was if you watch our story of
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 1: us on YouTube, you understand what happened. But it was
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 1: basically just I was slowly and so contrively, um making
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 1: every little move too. That was totally true to myself.
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 1: But I knew that would like impress him. I was like,
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 1: I'm just gonna be my best version of myself, and
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 1: I'm just gonna be friends with him, and if he
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 1: likes what he sees, then let's so be it. That's great,
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 1: right for me and great for him. And I feel
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 1: like nobody saw how I was actually cool and I
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 1: actually want him over for a period of time. And
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 1: that period of time really let me up when it
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 1: came to everybody's seeing me in Bachelor in Paradise three,
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 1: because we did, you know, we eight out because I
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 1: knew he was interested, he was blatantly interested, and then
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 1: certain things happened where he was not so sure anymore,
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 1: and you know, he was always in his head about everything.
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 1: But I think at the whole fall two thousand and
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 1: fifty and if if I could have something captured on camera,
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 1: it would be that time when you were being cool. Yeah, okay, okay.
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 1: My last question is also a little raunchy. Give it
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 1: to me. Of all the fantasy suites you've been in,
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 1: what was your favorite? Besides Sean? It was Ben because
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 1: because we actually had really great conversation and we were
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 1: just like sipping whiskey talking about life, and we had
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 1: this whole castle in Ireland to ourselves and we were like,
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 1: should we go exploring? And we went to the top
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 1: of this castle and it was like felt really haunted
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 1: and we got so scared that we like, couldn't you
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 1: think you were like drunk in the fields when where
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 1: you're like drunken styles running around there? Yeah, okay, but
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 1: not for fantasy, sweetest. I mean we were like drinking
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 1: and riding horses around the field and and running away
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 1: from donkeys and stuff. Yeah, but yeah, it was we
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 1: just I felt like we had a really fun we
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 1: were dancing, Like I just feel like we had a
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 1: really really fun time full of conversation, actually dancing and
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 1: trying to like explore a haunted castle. Fun. Yeah, very fun. Yeah.
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 1: Is that that it were done? No? I don't want
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 1: to be well, Caitlyn, we've already gone almost two hours.
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 1: I just like talking to my about myself. I like
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 1: hearing on the sound about boy so much fun with you.
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 1: I don't want to like bury the things that you
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 1: need to promote. We already talked about your scrunches and
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 1: your wine label, but I do want you to reiterate that.
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 1: And of course the off the Vine podcast and what's
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 1: the other one called grape Therapy so Grape Therapy and
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 1: Off the Vine they're both line themed podcast but they
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 1: come out each of them each week. So you have
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 1: two podcasts that release have three now I know three
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 1: of the drug phone calls yeah, drunk tuh. Yeah. So
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 1: Off the Vine comes out Tuesday, Grape There becomes out Thursday,
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 1: Drunk comes out Friday. Uh. But I mean, like, I
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 1: think about this and don't we have all the same listeners.
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 1: I really think they roll over. I think them are
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 1: the same. Yeah. But for those of you who are
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 1: new to to me, um, I yes, I have a
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 1: wine label coming out so it it's called Spade and
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 1: Fair if you're new to Caitlin. Uh. And then my scrunch,
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 1: which is it's honestly, it's such a fun page. It's
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 1: at do edit on Instagram. D E W E D
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 1: I T. And they're the strongest scrunches you'll ever use. Honestly,
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 1: they're so legit and they're too legit to quit. They'll
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 1: give you the highest, tightest pony, tell you lever. It
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 1: makes your chair look thicker. That's and for thick hare
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 1: people are always like, yeah, but we'll hold thick care.
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 1: I'm like, try me. Yeah, one time or round. Yeah,
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 1: if only we were so lucky to have a one
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 1: time around. Yeah, in the next in my next life,
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 1: I will come around with lioness hair. All right. On
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 1: that note, you guys, this was the one and only
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 1: Caitlin Bristo. Thank you for listening Almost Famous in Depth. Ben,
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 1: We miss you. Thank you for your note. You are
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 1: quite the man. You are a diamond in the rough,
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 1: truly all right, and you had so many diamonds and
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 1: so we could continue, but we cannot. Goodbye. Starting off,
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 1: I've been Ashley, I've been Caitlin. Totally Follow the Benn
• 1:43:36
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