Latest / The Calcio Guys / Reaction to Italy squad at EURO 2024 - Ep. 230
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- 0:06No Eli brob Hey barda lest Jadge said, bbs Goadty that's the vibes heading
- 0:39into the summer. We always got to keep it positive as much as uh,
- 0:43I think we'll get angry on this pot today regarding the squad announcement,
- 0:47we got to keep it positive. Euros coming up. It's just a Danno
- 0:50and myself Nicholas here on the couch, guys, episode two thirty. Uh,
- 0:55it's going good man. After coming in off of the legendary at Duro
- 1:00Onlion Donald a beautiful banger. I'm pumped, you know me the Euros around
- 1:04the corner, So I'm pumped. The squad got selected today, guys,
- 1:07but I think named his twenty six men. But uh yeah, I guess
- 1:11we wanna break it down. Uh yeah, A couple of surprises. You
- 1:17know we talked about last week. There was the initial thirty men announcement.
- 1:21I was I was surprised. I didn't realize it was today, like I
- 1:23know, like I know, the rule was June seventh. I didn't realize
- 1:26the deadline was June seventh for the euro team. I think they have until
- 1:32next Thursday in case of any emergency, substitutions, but yeah, it was.
- 1:38It was a bit of a shock today. You know, I opened
- 1:41my phone at one point and then I just saw in our group chats.
- 1:44You know, I think it was Nick Yanni who sent it as a as
- 1:47a tweet that you know, this was the official roster for the Euros.
- 1:52Let's well go, I'm just gonna name them all. I'll get right off
- 1:55the bat. I'm just gonna name them all. Uh and thens we have
- 1:57don A Ruma, a moret carrio defenders, Darmian di Lorenzo, Bastonian,
- 2:02DiMarco, Gatti, Mancini, not Scalvini, but Giorno, Cambiaso and Bella
- 2:07no nova and Califiordi, uh in mid Burrella Giorginio, Cristante, Pelogrini,
- 2:14Fratesi, uh Fajoli and full of run show. And then up front he's
- 2:19an El, Schawari, Raspidori, Scamaca, Detegi and Zaccani. So you
- 2:24know, we went through this last week. I giano goalkeepers. I mean,
- 2:31not too many surprises. Uh here. You know, at the end
- 2:36of the day we knew it was either gonna be Vicario or Provodel. I
- 2:39said Providel I think you said Vicario as at their goalie. You're right,
- 2:45a lot of people weren't happy with Maret being there, But I'm not surprised
- 2:47he's there. I mean, he's split the guy, he's he's the veteran
- 2:52out of the group. You know, he was there, uh three years
- 2:54ago as the backup. Like you know this has done a ruma's job,
- 2:59like between Morett and Vicario, like this is only in case of injury,
- 3:02knock on wood that doesn't happen, and Don Aruma plays all seven games.
- 3:09But you know, any any thoughts on that? No? I think for
- 3:14me it was like I said last week, I would I predicted it,
- 3:19and there was not. For me, there was not much a discussion.
- 3:22I mean, I know, I think many people are upset. You know,
- 3:25Provdel should have been should have been in instead of Meret. But at
- 3:29the end of the day, Nick, like you summed it up right there.
- 3:31You know this is all you know preference at that point. You know,
- 3:36in an ideal world, these guys are not touching the field, right,
- 3:38So, and I think Madett was the only player in Euro twenty twenty
- 3:42one that didn't even get any minutes out of all out of all twenty six
- 3:46players. Even sidgu got in there. Metat was the only one who didn't,
- 3:50so so maybe this time he might get a run if if it cruises
- 3:53to the group stage. But no, I mean you know this or that.
- 3:59I think it was kind of like a toss up. But I think
- 4:00the two set and Stone we're obviously done at Vicadio. Those are I think
- 4:04it was, you know, two top goalkeepers we have plenty of. But
- 4:10the thing is with our keepers that we have so many, so many of
- 4:13them, Like there's it's it's a it's a numbers game. At the end
- 4:15of the day, you we're only taking three. People are shouting off for
- 4:17Di Gregorio. Uh you know, obviously Provodel getting getting the cut over maybe
- 4:24a guy like Medet, but you know, at the end of the day,
- 4:27it is what it is, and you know these guys are going to
- 4:30be our three, and you know, we hope, hope for the best
- 4:33uh defense, you know, defense. I think this is one position group
- 4:38that like uh splat team pretty much. He didn't really have any choices to
- 4:44make. Unfortunately, injuries to Scalvini and a chairbe especially Scalvini. You know
- 4:48here at the County guys, we send him his wishes. E cl inentry
- 4:53on the last match in the game that sure, you could argue meant something
- 4:56for Atlanta, they could have passed you Van the standings, but this is
- 5:00a game that he really shouldn't have been playing. I know you could say
- 5:03that you could get injured at any time. Any player could have gotten injured
- 5:09in these friendlies. While they've played one, they still have the other one.
- 5:12Hopefully no one gets injured. But you just feel for the kid.
- 5:15He's twenty years old. I know he's gonna have a future ahead of him.
- 5:17Hopefully he'll play at the World Cup in two years. Hopefully it'll it'll
- 5:21will make the World Cup. But this is one of the bright young players.
- 5:25And even a chairby like I don't think his injuries as serious. It's
- 5:28just it's just enough that it'll it knocks him out of the tournament. And
- 5:34you know, I said it last week that this is a guy who he
- 5:41is a leader. He had a great, great season with Inter and I
- 5:44think this is a loss honestly for Italy. It sucks. And you know,
- 5:48there's not a lot of players that have even played in a tournament,
- 5:51in a major tournament before in this team ten players who have done that.
- 5:56Nine of those were on the team three years ago and only one other,
- 5:59El Schaarwi, was on the team back in twenty sixteen. So already you're
- 6:02losing. You're losing one of those guys, so it goes down to nine.
- 6:06You know, it sucks for him. And then in place came in
- 6:11Gatti, who was originally originally left off the original thirty men roster. So
- 6:15he comes in and because of this, there's no cuts to the defense.
- 6:19You know, Splitty really doesn't have any choices to make. He has his
- 6:24his hands tied because of this injury, these because of these injuries. You
- 6:28know, I saw some people on Twitter today questioning what Gatti's there, Well,
- 6:30he's there because of the injuries. You know. I think center back
- 6:33is one of those positions where I wouldn't say you could never have too many,
- 6:38but you don't want to have enough. You know. It's one of
- 6:41the situations where you either have not need the need that not have when it
- 6:45comes to the center back dep because you know, these guys are they're in
- 6:48the trenches right all all game. They're they're getting physical. So in case
- 6:54there's an injury. You don't want to have mentioned. They didn't bring Ghatti
- 6:59and they're down till what for four more center backs? I don't I forget
- 7:02exactly the number. But you know, he's a good player. He's good.
- 7:06He's gonna be a bench player. He might not even play, you
- 7:10know, but like as fan, I've seen him play some games. Says
- 7:15sometimes maybe good, sometimes maybe ship. There's a reason he was left off
- 7:18the original roster. But you know, I guess that injuries happen and then
- 7:24he comes in. He's gonna fill a role and that's it. Uh,
- 7:28there's really not much complaining here for defense. Yeah, I mean, listen,
- 7:31I don't think like you said. I think spot these hands were tired.
- 7:35That that's that's for sure. I mean, first it was a chat
- 7:39by going down and then the Skalve Scalveny injury. For me, it was
- 7:42just terrible to see. Again. It's a player that I've I've said on
- 7:45the on the show before. I've liked what he's what he's brought to the
- 7:48table, and it's been so young. But in my opinion being you know,
- 7:53so I had a schedule in terms of development, Uh, it's it's
- 7:57been it's been pretty impressive to watch it. It's just, like I said,
- 8:01just a big shame. Granted, you know, he is twenty years
- 8:03old. We hope that he comes back stronger because these acl injuries we've seen
- 8:07time and time again. You know, these these types of injuries, you
- 8:11you might not bounce back to what you once were. We hope that that's
- 8:13not the case, you know, in its entirety with with Skulvini, because
- 8:20once you get injured like that, you're never you're never going to be a
- 8:22hentred percent. But you hope to get as close as you can to what
- 8:26you once were. So we wish him well, like you said, and
- 8:30yeah, like you mentioned as well, spat the having his hand side a
- 8:33bit with the defense. But I think a lot of them, a lot
- 8:37of these players were, in my opinion, probably Walks if you know,
- 8:41from from the get go. I mean, I know we spoke about it
- 8:46last week and such. You know, the one player that you might cut
- 8:50from the deffense. You know, I think I said, Mancini, I
- 8:54forget if you got who you guys had said, but there was none there.
- 9:00There couldn't have been any. And you know, again, the whole
- 9:03Gatti thing Again for me, I don't think he's a national team player,
- 9:05but listen, he's there. He's going to be, like you said,
- 9:09a role player, a bench player. And again we got a question that
- 9:11we probably can touch on a later on our Instagram at the culture guys speaking
- 9:18about formation. You know, again, who knows what formation spelled you will
- 9:22ultimately choose or go with. But I think having the flexibility of like you
- 9:28said, having enough defenders or enough center backs for that matter, if he
- 9:31decides to go up with a three back or he changes to a four back
- 9:35and in game, you know, having that flexibility as well, I think
- 9:39is going to be key. You know, there's like you said, there's
- 9:43there's nine only nine returning players from the euro winning squad. Fifteen players their
- 9:50first international tournament with Italy at the senior level, so listen, it's it's
- 9:54a big change. But again from the guys you listed in the defense,
- 9:58from from Darmia and all the way to color Fiori and everybody in between,
- 10:01I think, like I said, we're pretty much walks. And I like
- 10:05how there's not only depth in the center backs, but even on the wing
- 10:09backs. Because I'm going to go back on to my point. You know,
- 10:13if we go with the three back or sorry, Spiletti chooses to go
- 10:18out with a three back or a four back, there's depth on each of
- 10:20those positions from from the left, from the left flank to the right flank,
- 10:26you know, if it be if it be Di Marco Cambiaso or if
- 10:28it be you know, Di Lorenzo Bellanova or even Darmian for that matter,
- 10:33he can play both. So what I like about the defense is that is
- 10:37that flexibility. You know, it has always been known for for you know,
- 10:41their defense and we've had that, you know, that title for for
- 10:45a long time. And you know, last last time around, we had
- 10:48two veterans. Unfortunately, I don't think there's one you know, veteran that
- 10:54can really take on that you know, kil we need maybe Bucci type of
- 10:58role. But same time, I think as a collective unit, they've shown
- 11:03that, you know, they've gone along and they can they can work together
- 11:05and play together. So I'm excited to see how that pans out. You
- 11:09know, we need to be rock solid at the back, and it starts
- 11:11with these players. Yeah. Yeah, and it's a young group, but
- 11:15I do like this group a defense I really do. I think this is
- 11:18probably Italy's strongest group outside of maybe goalkeeper. You know, and and this
- 11:24is maybe if you asked me six months ago, I would have been a
- 11:28bit unsure with Italy's defending. You know, look in the season the Califi
- 11:31already had, how Bostoni's continued to grow, even de Marshall, even Darmia
- 11:35and he's had a good season. Yeah, but Jordano of course. Uh
- 11:41so, Yeah, I'm excited. I'm excited for to see what they do.
- 11:43They might have to pull up pull off Italy two thousand and six,
- 11:46only allowing two goals all tournament if they want to want to be one being
- 11:52an on goal, one being an own goal on the other appenalty. Yeah,
- 11:54exactly. Midfield Barella for Taisy Georgino PELGRENI, Cristante Fajoli and full of
- 12:03Roun show. I think this is where we start to get question because no
- 12:07disrespect to Michael Fuller roon show, but what exactly has he done to prove
- 12:13his spot on this team? Is it just the fact that Splitty wanted a
- 12:18quota of midfielders, But then you could have called up Ricci. You know,
- 12:24I know, people today were talking about Localatelly whatever, you know,
- 12:30you know, whatever you wanna say about Localatelly. Uh, he wasn't on
- 12:33the thirty man roster, so I'm not even gonna I'm not even gonna talk
- 12:35about him. You know, we talked about him last week, but like
- 12:39I tweeted today, like Fuller roon, show's only here because he scored a
- 12:41nice goal against Juve and and Splett. He probably liked that, you know.
- 12:46But like again, he's probably just a depth player, you know.
- 12:52But it's interesting because he has zero he has zero appearances for the national team.
- 12:56So where exactly has he proven that he deserves on this team? This
- 13:01one baffles me. You know, he's gonna be wearing number twenty six at
- 13:05the tournament, so it goes to show he's really the last man on the
- 13:07roster, you know, out of twenty six. But yeah, it's interesting.
- 13:13It's I don't think it's a very strong group. It's not a very
- 13:16deep group. You know, you have what seven one, two, three,
- 13:22four, seven seven, Yeah, even you know, even Georgino being
- 13:28there, I'm not convinced. Maybe it's just it's a bias of him missing
- 13:31the last couple of penalties in those big games for Italy. Of course I
- 13:35like Burrella, but you know, he has a bit of an injury problem
- 13:37right now. For Tessie obviously is a good plug. Green. I'm excited
- 13:39to see him. He's a player that missed out on the Euros three years
- 13:43ago with an injury, so you know, maybe he has a chip on
- 13:45my shoulder. Uh. Fajoli obviously missing the whole season doesn't help, But
- 13:50I think this is a talent, a talented player who you know. I
- 13:56think if you're going to talk about making cuts to the midfield, he's probably
- 14:00not the first name you're you're mentioning. You're gonna mention full Unco first,
- 14:03you know, and then and then if you cut full Aruncro, you have
- 14:05six myths. So what you want to cut Fugoli just because Okay, maybe
- 14:09maybe some of you fans will say, Okay, bring Locatelli instead of Honestly,
- 14:13I'd rather bring Fajoli. He's he's a dynamic player and and that's what
- 14:18they need in the midfield. They have, you know, they have a
- 14:20Locatelli type player in Christante, who who's gonna play deeper, who plays that
- 14:24role? He plays it really well, he played great in the game.
- 14:26Was it a against Turkey? When did they plan on Tuesday? He he
- 14:31almost scored, hit the posts, he made a couple of nice passes.
- 14:33Uh, and I think he's very underrated Christante. So yeah, I'm you
- 14:41know, I'm excited to see exactly how this group is gonna line up,
- 14:46especially the first game, you know, depending what's happening with Brella. I'm
- 14:50not uh, this is not, this is not you know Euro the Euro
- 14:52twenty twenty midfield that rotated four guys basically and dominated. They were amaz in
- 15:00that midfield. And you know, we'll see with Burrella how you know how
- 15:05much this injury affects him. I think the next man up really is.
- 15:09It depends if they want to start for Tezi or if he's a bench guy.
- 15:11But maybe maybe with pel Greene. I want to see more of Georgina
- 15:15though. I want to see Euro twenty twenty Georgino. I want to see
- 15:18a guy who's going to create plays, be dynamic, bring the ball up.
- 15:22You know, if you have Christante as one deep blne midfielder, you
- 15:26need Georgino as your as your as your playmaker, and you need Burrella as
- 15:30a playmaker slash runner. So uh, you know they need to work as
- 15:33a group. This is if they're going for three men midfielder midfield, which
- 15:37the most likely are. But yeah, I don't know, Adrew, what
- 15:41do you think? Yeah, for me, question marks all over. I
- 15:46mean I know, uh, you know, we we said it in the
- 15:48past, you know, even dating back to pre Euro twenty twenty. You
- 15:54know, midfield we were saying midfield is our strongest was our strongest you know
- 16:00position group. Uh, you know, we had so many guys coming in
- 16:03and you know, I think it's unfortunate the whole Tonawi situation. I would
- 16:07have loved to have seen him here, uh in this tournament. Uh you
- 16:10know, you're just stepping into his into his into his form, into his
- 16:14prime of prime years. So again that's unfortunate. But you know, we
- 16:18already knew that was it wasn't going to be. We hope, uh you
- 16:21know, if it will be qualified for you know a couple twenty twenty six,
- 16:23he can be a key figure there. But you know, I guess
- 16:27gone through the days of you know, rewind On Veerati in the midfield,
- 16:30right, So for me, I think it's gonna be Bardella Georgino duo in
- 16:37the midfield. I personally think they'll they'll go to two uh because in my
- 16:42am my a my ideal or maybe not ideal, but just in my head,
- 16:47I've been like really holed in on this, on this on this three
- 16:51four two one uh formation. So I think they would go there. If
- 16:56they go to three, I mean they have options. But again, like
- 17:00not convincing seven guys. We hope for nothing to go wrong. There's gonna
- 17:04be a lot of guys in there that need to step up. I need
- 17:07to to really show why they were called and chosen by Spiletti. Like not
- 17:11a lot of the experience in terms of international play, which is fine,
- 17:15that's not that's not the biggest issue for me. But I I just hope
- 17:19the quality is there, you know, because right now it doesn't convince me
- 17:25over the top, Like I think I know kind of like where we're gonna
- 17:27how we're gonna line up in terms of you know, we all know that
- 17:32it's gonna be the pecking order goes from Baralla, Georgino, you know,
- 17:36Fats Pella, Greene. I think those are like the four, you know,
- 17:38inter twenty ones after that Fuller, runtrol I fa Jolie. Uh.
- 17:45You know, I'm not convinced. I don't think either of them. I
- 17:49don't know in an ideal world, in a in a situation where you know
- 17:55there there there aren't certain guys missing, I don't think these guys made the
- 17:57team. But again they have all to prove. We didn't think, you
- 18:00know, maybe a guy Prisina was going to be anything last time around,
- 18:04and you know he scored two big goals for us, you know, the
- 18:07tournament, So again, anything is possible in tournament football. The only thing
- 18:12I'm gonna go back on on Spiletti for is that I remember at the very
- 18:17beginning he really made it clear that, you know, he wanted to make
- 18:21selections based on merit. There's some guys on this on this call up west
- 18:27Nick that I don't know if it's really merit based, you know, only
- 18:33the guy named Marette, only the guy named Marett. Is is it funny
- 18:37enough? The guy Maret is not merit based on the team, right,
- 18:41So that's like trying to say that ten times fast. But nevertheless, I
- 18:45think it's it's it's a bit strange. I don't know, if you know,
- 18:48obviously maybe spoilt you know, something that we don't. I really don't
- 18:52know. People are gonna ask does he does like it does? I mean
- 18:56if people are gonna ask us what you know? Oh why is for ron
- 18:59for their wise a joy there guys like I don't know, like we don't
- 19:02know the answer to that. Like there's just something that you know, maybe
- 19:06he saw but you saw, you know, if it be in these trainings,
- 19:08if it be uh you know, in the in these friendlies, you
- 19:11know, just in just at COVERD channel, whatever it may be that that
- 19:15we don't know. I mean, I think I think there are profiles.
- 19:19I forget the names like full Run. I think the profiles are are are
- 19:23decent. I think, like you know, they have decent profile, like
- 19:26in terms of quality. But is it enough to say, you know,
- 19:32you're you're donning the you know, the the AJI shirt in a in an
- 19:36international tournament, like I don't know. For me, that's where I kind
- 19:37of I mean disarray with that. But you know, we want to maybe
- 19:45how I was saying, I don't know if it was last week or a
- 19:47handful of weeks ago, whatever it was, but you know, you want
- 19:48to maybe experience in this midfield Like I think one of vent twitter was was
- 19:52was was a name that could have been called? Unfortunately he wasn't. So
- 19:56I'm gonna follow your lead there, Nick and say he wasn't on the thirty
- 20:00like Local Taw he wasn't. There's no really much more, you know,
- 20:03point of talking about him? Are these players again unless something does happen from
- 20:07now until until the fourteenth and you know they have to make a switch,
- 20:11which could could you know very well happened. But at the same time,
- 20:15this is what we have. These are the twenty six guys. This is
- 20:17what we're we're previewing, this is what we're criticizing and talking about. But
- 20:22yeah, I don't know. For me, it's just I'm hopeful, but
- 20:25at the same time, like I need them to prove to prove us wrong
- 20:30or prove us you know right, or however you want to say it.
- 20:32But it's a strange one for me. But again, there is some flexibility
- 20:41in terms of in terms of the players, like I didn't think you needed
- 20:42ten midfielders, but again seven you're cutting you're cutting it, you know,
- 20:48a bit short. Because again we're going to go back on to the formation
- 20:51thing like depending what formation we play. Like pell Greeney can play multiple positions,
- 20:56right Like, he can play in that three man midfield, he can
- 21:00play as a turd cortista. He can play kind of you know, winger
- 21:04or you know, in that two behind the behind the number nine. So
- 21:08I think the flexibility is good in terms of that. You know, we
- 21:11have our holding midfielders, we have our box to box guys. But I
- 21:17still think they need to prove, you know, that they're that they're off
- 21:22quality. And but at the end of the day, once once that first
- 21:26game you know, goes off and these players touch the pitch, I think
- 21:30all these criticisms might go out the window just for our joy of the tournament
- 21:34coming back. But uh, yeah, I'm excited. But at the same
- 21:41time, like I said, need to prove. Yeah, you're talking about
- 21:44profiles. If there's anything going for the runto's wait, the times I have
- 21:48seen him play the season, he looks just like a physical specimen. Yeah,
- 21:52he looks you know, so he's the type of guy if they you
- 21:55know, don't get the extra time in in the knockout rounds, you bring
- 21:57him up, probably won't to see the pitch in uh, in the group
- 22:03stage, but we'll see, we'll see. Uh and then forwards, give
- 22:07us, give us about what an hour and now and a half to talk
- 22:10about this. Agree maybe maybe too, Retegi, Respiradori, Keiskama, Kanyel
- 22:17Sawi, and the big name off the list, Ricardo or Selini. This
- 22:22is a name that we all thought was a lock and we talked about it
- 22:26last week. Okay, who's getting cut between Za, Kanye and Elo and
- 22:30it's or Selini. And this this I'm the most disappointed in because when Spiletti
- 22:36talks about merit based callups, this guy deserved it one hundred percent. He
- 22:44had an amazing season. What was it ten goals for Sicily I forget exactly
- 22:52was he was? He on some of our team of the seasons so it
- 22:56was like he was on honorable mentions. I think, yeah, there you
- 22:59go. Good what good enough for the culture guys, but not good enough
- 23:02for Spalletti, Like come on, come on, And you know, I
- 23:07just feel bad for him. I seriously do, because he's I think he's
- 23:11like twenty seven years old, he's entering into the prime of his career.
- 23:14He's not going to get many opportunities. Who knows if he'll even have an
- 23:17opportunity in two years if it'llly goes to the World Cup. This was his
- 23:22season. He you know, it feels like they were promoting him so much,
- 23:26especially ahead of the game in Bologna. I don't know. Something must
- 23:30have happened to convince Spalletti otherwise. And this is this is one where if
- 23:37Italy bows out early and doesn't score enough, this is exactly the thing everyone's
- 23:42going to criticize leaving Orsolini off this team. If Italy goes on and win
- 23:48the tournament, nobody, no one's gonna talk about this. But you know,
- 23:53part of me does want to say, okay, trusting the coach,
- 23:57trusting the process, let's see see the results first before you know, coming
- 24:03up with any criticisms. But at the same time, we have seen the
- 24:06results from Orcelini. That's what was frustrating. He's had an amazing season.
- 24:11And yeah, I'm you know, I hate to say it, I really
- 24:15do, Adiannel, but if there's an injury, I don't want to say
- 24:22I hope there's an injury, but there I went there to be a way
- 24:27that Orcelini plays with Italy in this tournament, you know, that's all I'm
- 24:33saying I'm not wishing injury injury on anybody. Don't don't twist my words,
- 24:37but I hope if in case there is, he's the first man up,
- 24:41because you look, you look back two years ago, Italy had to to
- 24:45change to make two changes before the opener. Sinci and PELGRENI were both we're
- 24:52both injured. And then in came Casina and cash Revelly. Cash Revelli didn't
- 24:55really do much all tournament. I think he played once. Passina scored two
- 24:59goals. So maybe, you know, sometimes those injuries are a blessing,
- 25:02a blessing in disguise. You know, even he looked back, Okay,
- 25:06this is a bit different, but you look back two thousand and six,
- 25:07when Nessa gets hurt, Matarazzi comes in, he had you know, he
- 25:11gets his red card, and then Barzagli comes in, and then Mattarazzi comes
- 25:15back, scores the goal in the final draws the red card, scores on
- 25:19a penalty. So you know, sometimes an injury opens the door for someone
- 25:23else. But yeah, you know, regarding all the other players, you
- 25:29know, between el shar owns A Khani, I would have thought it would
- 25:33be Zakeny. You know, even even if you want to mention RESPIRATORI but
- 25:37again he's an appolely guy. He split the guy, so I feel like
- 25:41splect he had a bit of favoriteism in that sense. Obviously. You know,
- 25:45for me, the locks are obviously Reta, Gi Kis and Skamaka.
- 25:48People are on Twitter today were saying Kiza didn't really deserve it, which in
- 25:52a way I do agree, but he's just one of those players. He
- 25:56does have the talent, that's the thing. He does have the talent sometimes
- 26:00just needs to put it together. He's had a very up and down season.
- 26:03He finished strong, so at least he did that. But you know,
- 26:07people are criticizing al I think he did enough this season to to to
- 26:11merit this. Obviously, Orsselini is better than Chai ends at Canye. That's
- 26:17why you really would have thought at least one of those would get cut.
- 26:22But it's just frustrating, it really is it. Really it almost have no
- 26:27faith now, not not in the team on the field, just in the
- 26:30coach himself. That's it. So I'm gonna for for me, it's it's
- 26:36it's obviously a world wind of emotion. I agree on the Orselni thing.
- 26:41I mean at the end of the day. I don't know. It's hard
- 26:44to really, It's gonna be hard to say that. You know, I'm
- 26:47gonna maybe counter your point or play you know, the other side a bit.
- 26:51But you know, if with Orcelini there or not, depending how Italy
- 26:56you know, performs, I don't know if it's based off of him,
- 27:00that would would have changed the whole dynamic of our attack. But he could
- 27:06have added more than I think some of these guys that got called up in
- 27:11the attack, you know, would have. So for me last week,
- 27:15I picked Zakhani that I thought would get cut because for me, you know,
- 27:18I'm sticking in the back of my man in the back of my mind,
- 27:22you know, Uh, merit based call ops, you know really Uh
- 27:26you know Julian home what it means to wear the Adzudi shirt. Uh.
- 27:30You know, Spiletti bringing in you know whereas a five former number tens I
- 27:36taught to the Piero Baggio, uh Rivera Antonioni to kind of really tell these
- 27:41players and show these payers what it's about. I'm pretty sure Soleni was was
- 27:45paying attention. Maybe he wasn't. Maybe that's why he got cut. I
- 27:48don't know. Like for me, it doesn't make sense, Like, you
- 27:51know, a player that has had his best, I think, his best
- 27:53season of his life, you know, helping guide Bonia also into aappings league.
- 28:00I mean, we all know it was a lot of moving parts in
- 28:03the whole in the house scenario, but or Sony played up, played up,
- 28:06played a role, and you know, he gets he gets the surprise
- 28:11cut. And imagine we only needed to make three cuts because we were down
- 28:14to twenty nine guys anyways, right, so I was shocked to see one
- 28:18of them being We already knew one of them was going to be the keeper.
- 28:22So realistically, there was only two guys we had to cut because we
- 28:26knew one of them was going to be the keeper because they were not taking
- 28:30four keepers. Uh, and we already got hit with the injury bug a
- 28:33bit, so we were down to basically only two cuts. So really it
- 28:37was a Ricci or I mean, I guess a lot of people probably thought
- 28:41it might have been a Ricchi, Fu l Unco or Fa Joy, so
- 28:44one of those guys and somebody else. Unfortunately, the somebody else was a
- 28:49player that had the best season of his life in Ricardo Orsolini. So for
- 28:55me, it's still head scratching. You're telling me that he couldn't beat the
- 28:57odds on one cut because we all we already were able to put the put
- 29:02the pieces together to to know that it was only basically, well, i'm
- 29:06gonna say two, but realistically only one, because we knew it was gonna
- 29:10either be like I said, full un for jo or or RICHI. It's
- 29:14a it's a shame, uh for for that. I feel for him because
- 29:18again I don't know, like you said, I don't know if the opportunity.
- 29:22I'm hoping the opportunity is there for him in two years. I'm hoping.
- 29:26I'm hoping that he under now noway appointed, he gets something else out
- 29:32of a guy of course Sulini that can that can prove his worth. But
- 29:36it's just a shame. You know, a season of your life really had,
- 29:40uh you know, a positive, positive year and in a in a
- 29:45tournament season, international tournament season, still didn't make the cut. There's not
- 29:52really much more words to say. It's just it's just really unfortunate. Uh.
- 29:56This is a player that I think has has gone really under the radar.
- 29:59He had a want to hype early early on in his career was supposed
- 30:03to be that next talent. I don't know if he ever really kind of
- 30:07like a Varadi, I don't know if they ever really reached maybe the next
- 30:10level. But I think they've had solid you know in between, you know,
- 30:15good and great player like that in between. I think they've been solid
- 30:19to to to hopefully merit a call up to Italy the national team, but
- 30:23already got his opportunity. Unfortunately a guy like Orsini didn't. Yeah for me
- 30:30again, I think that was the biggest talking point amongst all a duty fans
- 30:33and all Italians like all over, because that's all I was seeing, Where's
- 30:37Orcelni? What the hell or so is not there? Again? I think
- 30:42I agree with all that. I don't on the on the flip side,
- 30:45I don't think it's a make or break that if he's there, we're winning,
- 30:48if he's not, we're losing type of thing. But he could have
- 30:52helped. He could have definitely helped, especially just having that flexibility on on
- 30:56on the wings or however they wanted to put up you know, set up
- 30:59and play uh in the attack, you know, going to the rest of
- 31:03the players. Again, whoever we're saying Keza is not shouldn't be there.
- 31:08Once once he hits the pitch and once he made like once he scores a
- 31:11goal, people are all gonna go fucking come in their pasts. They're gonna
- 31:15go fucking bananas again. They're gonna they're gonna say, oh, kiez oh,
- 31:19kiez oh, Kisa, we love you. But just before you were
- 31:23saying talking about him, listen, I'm not on the fucking big bandwagon of
- 31:27Kieza, but I do like him as a player. Uh, he's he's
- 31:32itways best. He's one of IT always best, better attackers and on his
- 31:37day maybe one of maybe it's best player. So for me, he's that
- 31:41was a walk. I'm happy that it came to the point where we didn't
- 31:48have to leave off one of ORTEGI I think I'm glad to see them both
- 31:52there. I think they both deserve to be there. People are gonna say,
- 31:55Otegy, you know what, the score not even teng goals and said,
- 31:57yeah, he's a bomb, he's this, he's that, this guy
- 32:00as soon as he put on the the Azuri blue his course. So I'm
- 32:07hoping to see more of that come the tournament. I mean, if we're
- 32:10gonna go back to what we saw against Turkey. We're gonna start smashing tables.
- 32:15But he's he's he's really embraced, you know, the Italian, the
- 32:22Italian life, the Italian speaking a bit of the language. You know.
- 32:25He's he's passionate, he's hungry, he wants to play, he wants to
- 32:29score. So I'm happy to see him there. Skamaka then didn't start off
- 32:32the season well, finished strong. Like I said last week, it's not
- 32:37about you know, how you starts, how you finish, and you know
- 32:39Scamak as an example of that this season. I'm just hoping that that can
- 32:43carry over to to the to the tournament. You know. El Shadawi,
- 32:46I think I saw somewhere I forget. I think it was one of our
- 32:49comments and when I posted, you know, the call was I forget who.
- 32:52It was so part of me there, but they were saying he called
- 32:57up, what is this twenty fifteen? And it's kind of funny because he's
- 33:00somewhow, some way kind of still has the same haircut as twenty fifteen.
- 33:02But listen, I think he's he's obviously a depth piece. I think he's
- 33:08a he's a player that that we've seen either under Mourinho or under de ROSSI
- 33:15is willing to do what it takes. Uh, whatever role he's going to
- 33:19be there, he's gonna he's gonna fight. So for me, the work
- 33:22ethic is there. Obviously he still has some talent. He can score,
- 33:25he can provide the sists. So you know, in terms of that pecking
- 33:30order, I think for me and I and I liked him in previous seasons,
- 33:34but for me, this season, if we're going back on these words
- 33:37merit based call ups, for me, Zakanyi was the worst in terms of
- 33:40all these guys attacking wise. And I know all the lats are gonna come
- 33:45at us and say, oh, you guys are crazy, you guys are
- 33:46singing players. BBB guys, You're gonna have to take off the Watcho Cup
- 33:52a bit because I don't know. For me that I don't remember the stats,
- 33:57so maybe I'm wrong, so proof to me that I'm wrong. But
- 34:00me Zakani did not have the Zakoni year that he had. It would be
- 34:04last season or the season before. Even in his house Verona DA's it's it
- 34:07wasn't the same as a Kanya this year, which is fine because Respidora didn't
- 34:10have a RESPIRADORI season as well. But I think for me, I think
- 34:17Respirador is a bit more flexible in terms of position. Even though I don't
- 34:22think he will need to play as a nine, he could play as a
- 34:24nine, he can play as he can play on the wing, uh in
- 34:29that supporting role Zakani, I think he's only really locked to the right wing
- 34:35or left wing whatever it is. So again, I don't know, but
- 34:42maybe maybe we're talking crazy, but that's how I that's how I see it.
- 34:45If I would have had to have picked somebody just based off this season
- 34:49for me or Sun, he was clear of both those guys for that matter,
- 34:52even all three if we're really talking, you know, calling a spade
- 34:54a spade or SOUNI. This year's season was better than I shout that he
- 34:59was better than and was better than us. Unfortunately, one of those guys
- 35:02had to get the boots, and surprisingly enough, it was the guy who
- 35:07had the better, the best season out of the three of them. So
- 35:10who else is there that? That's pretty much it. I think Isa is
- 35:15a lot for me, and I spoke about our two number nines. Maybe
- 35:20I don't know, And then you know, like I said earlier, we
- 35:22couldn't even maybe throw in Pelgrene into that mix because he's again, he's flexible.
- 35:27The only thing I won't knock about Spalletti is that a lot of these
- 35:30players are pretty flexible in terms of positions. Because we'll get into it later.
- 35:36But whatever formation gets chosen and gets you know, used more frequently,
- 35:43you know, we have players that can kind of you know, mix and
- 35:45matching and go in different different areas and still be productive. So for that,
- 35:50I'm not gonna knock him. But for some of these uh, non
- 35:54merit based call ups, it's a bit head scratching. But again, like
- 35:59we said with UH with my Chini, even though he forgot to wear his
- 36:04glasses on a call up list, we forgive him, you know so,
- 36:07and he brought us, you know, a EUROD title. I'm not saying
- 36:12we're gonna do the same hopefully, but I'm gonna put my trust in and
- 36:15faith and SPOETI. I know a lot of people are gonna go against that
- 36:20because of the call up with today, but you know, we need to
- 36:23be positive, like we said to opening the show, we need to be
- 36:27positive rather than negative. I'm sticking with that course of action. Un why
- 36:30something really hits the fan where it's like a complete embarrassment, which knock on
- 36:35what doesn't happen put accordingly? But overall, uh, you know, I
- 36:43don't know, maybe a grade, maybe we should give give a grade,
- 36:45like I don't know if you have a grade or a wetter value. B.
- 36:52Yeah, B. I'm gonna go just be or be positive minus or
- 36:58be Okay, I'm gonna go. They do be terrible, they do be
- 37:05terrible. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go B plus. I'm gonna go
- 37:12be plus. It's a bit of a bit above you. I was gonna
- 37:14go a minus, but I'll go be plus because for the most part,
- 37:21I think we we we kind of knew these players, like what players were
- 37:23gonna be there again, hands were tied in certain cases. We said it
- 37:27okay, fine, But if we have to give a grade, Nick gives
- 37:30a B. We didn't ask Johnny this question, so we'll have to maybe
- 37:32get back to you guys on that. But for me, it's gonna be
- 37:35a B plause just because, like I said, the flexibility is there a
- 37:37lot of the cops that we thought were gonna be called up or stay on
- 37:42the call with Stayed. I think the biggest dent is obviously the Orsolini cut
- 37:52and hm the we're not sure why Fullaruntro and maybe Fajulia is in this team,
- 37:58so for need to be pas nick its be guys, let us know.
- 38:04Let us know. I don't know if this is gonna get quipped,
- 38:07but let us know you're great for for the Azuri call up list. Yeah,
- 38:12like I said, N give a be I give a b PWAs let
- 38:14us know we'd like to hear from you. Uh, I'm just gonna read
- 38:17some reaction online. Belbrini or Slni cut is weird medeed Staying also favoritism Provadel
- 38:22played way better season. Uh Delgadio Leone Orcelini should be there in Catana.
- 38:30Getting out of the group will be a miracle. Lombi eagle, not one
- 38:36ac Milan player and coach upundit. There must be something more to it,
- 38:39because because Orcelini missing out after having a season, that makes no logical sense.
- 38:45Uh so pretty much ah what we said, and then uh yeah we
- 38:50did. We did get a question on social media about from Mora eleven what
- 38:54formation suits best for this Italy team. We'll just answer that shortly. But
- 39:00you know, I just I'm just looking at the roster. I think they
- 39:01officially published the numbers adri so you know, if you're a numbers guy,
- 39:07this is some surprising numbers. Brella is gonna be wearing number six actually,
- 39:12so he's moving on from his eighteen. Fojoli's got his old eighteen. Uh.
- 39:19Looking from the guys from that played in the last tournament, I think
- 39:22he's kept his fourteen. Christante kept his sixteen obviously, Donor Ruma, Donor
- 39:28Ruma, he were twenty one, he was twenty one, right, yeah.
- 39:32He took the number one this time, number one. Yeah, so
- 39:36he took the number twenty one. Morett got the twenty one this year he
- 39:39got the number one, got number one. Ye yeah, yeah, I
- 39:43said, morettt twenty one. Yeah deal. Lorenzeo kept his two. Georgino
- 39:49kept the number eight obviously Red Tigee with the number nine, number ten Pelgreeney,
- 39:52which not too surprising, he's worn it before. Raspdori, I think
- 39:55he was I want to say, no, he wasn't eating. Was he
- 40:00twenty two? I think it was twenty two? Yeah, yeah, I
- 40:05think you're right. Oh, I actually have the list right here. Casino
- 40:08was twelve, yeah, yeah, Restirat he was twenty two, so he's
- 40:13he's eleven this year, so he cuts it right in half. Darmian with
- 40:16the thirteen, pretty ugly number. He's he's the guy. He's the only
- 40:20guy in this list who's pleaded in the World Cup. True Mateo Darmian ten
- 40:24years ago he played at the old Cup. Uh and then Scamaka seventeen.
- 40:30I would have which is interesting. I would have rather given the nine two
- 40:34Sukamaka, to be honest, it looks better on him, but you know,
- 40:37at the end of the day, it's numbers. He gets Hiro's number
- 40:39right, and then Retegie gets a Blatti's old number, and then Zy twenty,
- 40:45Belanova gets it from Benucci nineteen h yeah, and then Eltra a we
- 40:49twenty two? What was that the number he used to wear or he used
- 40:52to wear a lower Then he used to wear fourteen back in the day for
- 40:57the national team. Yeah, he had remember if it was a Friendli's call
- 41:02op or or if it was I don't remember what it was for, but
- 41:07yes, he did wear the fourteen at one point. I think you've also
- 41:09worked even more the eleven later on his career. I feel like I've seen
- 41:14him in twenty two. But so yeah, and also one thing I did
- 41:19want to say. Also, you know, looking you know at our reaction
- 41:23today, you think back three years ago, we didn't have this discussion when
- 41:29the when the team was announced, we knew who was going to be there,
- 41:32you know, Mancini did that. Obviously, it doesn't help that split
- 41:37the he's had less than a year as coach, but we knew based on
- 41:40previous games and everything. It was the same. It was the same group
- 41:45that carried through under Mancini under the time that he was there. Obviously,
- 41:47Okay, a couple of injuries here and there, he think it was a
- 41:50yolo as one, but there was no surprises. Three years ago, this
- 41:55was that was a tight group. Everyone knew whatformation they played, knew who's
- 42:00gonna be there, and obviously, okay, besides the injuries, there were
- 42:02no there was no surprises. So it is frustrating with all these uh I
- 42:06guess some of these surprises, but yeah, formation, uh, you know,
- 42:09thanks again more eleven for that question. Honestly, I know you say,
- 42:15you know, what'd you would you say? The four four three four
- 42:19four two one I think they'll kind of stick with what they win against Turkey,
- 42:22kind of like a four three three four two three one type depending where
- 42:27if depending on Pelgren he plays, I think he could be a bit more
- 42:30of attacking role versus if for Tess plays he he stays back, it's more
- 42:35four three three. I just don't think they have enough enough uh wing back
- 42:40or sorry, center back depth to go through to the back, unless,
- 42:44of course, you know, like you said, guys like Darmian and California
- 42:49Califioti they can play either wing back or center backs, so you know,
- 42:53right now they have what five true center backs, So I'm not convinced they'll
- 42:57go three at the back. I kind of like for the back, I
- 43:00think they have a lot of depth for that. And obviously like guys like
- 43:05de Lorenzo DeMarco, they they already they they do play well in that formation.
- 43:09Obviously DeMarco he plays more in a five back system. But de Lorenzo's
- 43:14he's done this monopoly obviously under Spiletty. He did it, yeah at the
- 43:17Euros three years ago in a four back system. So you know he's he's
- 43:22a player I trust back there. I'm sure he's going to start, Yeah,
- 43:25and then you know, in terms of the attack, like you know,
- 43:31I'm I'm not convinced that like having two wingers and a striker is what
- 43:37is what they're going to do. I wouldn't be surprised if they kind of
- 43:39go more like you know, let's say Kisa with uh, let's say let's
- 43:45skate, let's say Scamaka. But then maybe maybe Paul Greeni does play kind
- 43:49of like on the wing, kind of behind them. You know, it's
- 43:52not gonna be like what we saw three years ago, where you have a
- 43:54perfect left winger and a perfect right winger. You know who who is going
- 43:58to play on that right side. Serious should have been Arcelloni. It should
- 44:00have been Arsllini exactly. So that's why I'm not convinced, Uh, there's
- 44:05someone there, because even El Shawai, he he plays more on the left.
- 44:07Right him and Kenny they play more on the left. I mean,
- 44:10I'm sure they can play on the right. So I think the attack is
- 44:14for me, is is more of a question. Maybe they they do kind
- 44:16of two forwards playing off each other. Maybe Kaysa plus like I said,
- 44:21Skamaka, But again, I don't like keys in the in the four role.
- 44:23He's a left winger. You saw that at Uve. So for me,
- 44:28it's the fours. I have a lot of questions, you know,
- 44:30if you know, if I have to name a starting eleven today, I
- 44:32probably go don Ruma, DeMarco. Uh even center back, who would you
- 44:38GOONI? Yeah, or even California and Bistoni, but probably not. I
- 44:46prefer Boniorno and BOSTONI and then and then the Lorenzo on the right side.
- 44:52You know, mid midfield, you obviously got Georgino, Pellegrini and Burrella healthy
- 44:59Burrella, I think that's a really I think that's a solid midfield, you
- 45:01know where it You know, when there's more question, it's whether you want
- 45:06to go on more of an attack mode with Pelgreene and hopefully again Burrell is
- 45:09healthy by the first game. And again for the front three, who knows
- 45:15why not? Maybe maybe they could go for Taisy, Georgino and and Burrella
- 45:22and the three have Pelgreeni behind like let's say Skamaka and Quiza or rete gen
- 45:28Kiza. Who knows that. So again that that one's a bit harder,
- 45:31but it'll be interesting to see that that first eleven against Albania. Oh,
- 45:36Yeah, everybody's gonna have their eyes piels for that. We already know.
- 45:38Like every time there's there's a there's an a game, everybody's looking for the
- 45:43starting eleven and everybody was right on their keyboards. They're ready, they're ready
- 45:46to type, oh my god, what's this formation? Why do these selections?
- 45:51Everybody's ready to go. So I think this will be no, no
- 45:54different. But yeah, no, for the question, like we've been speaking
- 45:59about it for a little bit now, and I feel like we're going to
- 46:00continue to speak it until until the tournament starts, and maybe even into the
- 46:04tournament for that matter. But formation, I just think, uh, you
- 46:09want to try to you want to try to have your your your top players
- 46:15in their suitable positions. And I agree with your point on Kieza because again
- 46:22we've said it on the podcast before, people were saying, oh, well,
- 46:28they'll just play it three five two and it will be good. I
- 46:30mean, but you want to include Kisa on the side in eleven and you
- 46:34want to play a three five to two. He was no offense, but
- 46:37kind of dog shit for you pointing in that formation like it's not his it's
- 46:40not his position. He I don't know, like he's not that in that
- 46:46too front like it's not him. I don't I don't see that for that
- 46:50matter. Maybe on the international stage is maybe he produces something different. I
- 46:55don't know. But for me, he needs his space. I think I
- 47:00think he's a We've set it time and time again. He's a he's a
- 47:01player that needs just needs that space to take that man on, to beat
- 47:06him on the dribble, to create opportunities, to to receive the pass,
- 47:09to to to make space to put in up that frough ball, to take
- 47:15a shot, to be able to cut in. I think he needs that
- 47:19those wings because I think he can put on either side personally left and right.
- 47:23So for that there's flexibility there. But if it be on the left
- 47:28or be on the right, he has, in my opinion, needs that
- 47:30space, uh to to do what he does best. So you know,
- 47:35that's why I think I would like to see the three four two one tried
- 47:42and hope and I would like to see it work because I think it could.
- 47:45You know, in terms of whoever's plainting as the nine, if it
- 47:50be or Taggy, I've said it before, whoever it is, it doesn't
- 47:52matter. It could be. Uh, it could either or the two guys
- 47:59behind them, I think are where these players that are got selected can have,
- 48:04can have some fun with and maybe that's when we can maybe change our
- 48:07tune because no matter who's at the nine, ideally you want to say it's
- 48:13Amaka or some people are gonna say it's Retag he needs to be there.
- 48:15I don't. It doesn't matter to me either or it is fine. But
- 48:19those two behind that number nine, for me, we have that's where we
- 48:23can say, Okay, it's not really they're not really who's gonna play on
- 48:28the left and who's gonna play on the right in a four three three or
- 48:30on a four to two three one, who's gonna pay on the left,
- 48:32who's gonna play the right? Those guys, in my opinion, can be
- 48:36a bit more free roaming, a bit more flexible in terms of you know,
- 48:38where they receive the ball, where they you know, where they put
- 48:43put a foot ball in, where they go out, maybe they go out,
- 48:45why come back in and there's players across the board to kind of change
- 48:51the negativity about our forwarde into maybe a bit of a positive thing. If
- 48:55it be Ks, if it be Pellegrini, if it be Espadori, if
- 49:00it be zach Kanny, if it be a Sharawi, I think those guys
- 49:06can all kind of you know, work in that in those in our role
- 49:09behind, either as Comac or Attegi. So that's why I kind of like
- 49:14would like to see the three four two one used and hopefully work. If
- 49:20it doesn't and this is all maybe my imagination and too much I see twenty
- 49:24four. Okay, guys, I'm guilty. I'm sorry, but I would
- 49:27just like to see it work because I think there there isn't a possibility for
- 49:30it to work. And to say that, you know our wing backs,
- 49:35which I said earlier, you you know the Marco is most effective as that
- 49:39left wing back, you know, in a left back position, solely a
- 49:43left back position. I think he's still great, But is he the same
- 49:47DeMarco that we can get if he's on as a wing back and he kind
- 49:52of goes he's darting up and down, up and down, up and down
- 49:54on the left flank, and he's putting in a ball, he's he's creating,
- 49:59he's is creating on the offensive side, and he's helping to defend on
- 50:02on the back end. I think that can that that works best for him,
- 50:07that's suited best for him. So my whole point is to have a
- 50:13formation that best suits our best players. You know, if it be a
- 50:17z A DeMarco, if it be you know Barrella, you know Georgina in
- 50:22the midfield, or whoever it may be. I think we need a We
- 50:25need to have a formation or formations poral that can be best suited for our
- 50:34playmakers, our best players, our most effective players, our quality players going
- 50:37forward. So I think what I've liked about Patti is that he has experimented
- 50:43a bit in terms of the formation. I don't think we've been rigid on
- 50:45the four three three, because at the end of the Manchinierra we were all
- 50:50figured out. We knew we were going with the four three three. We
- 50:52basically knew who's going to be on that starting eleven. We were hands in
- 50:59our head and arm head in hands. When uh, there would be a
- 51:04bit of a tweak with the forward trident, Uh why is this guy playing
- 51:08here? Why is that guy playing there? But we got stale and we
- 51:12got pretty figured out. So what I've liked so far under Spilette is that
- 51:16the the uh experimenting and the flexibility has has for the most part been there.
- 51:24Small sample size, but it's been there, and I've liked that to
- 51:29say that in case something in match, you know, we need to make
- 51:32a change on the fly, I'm hoping that he has enough enough brain power
- 51:37to make those adjustments in game, if it be of a formation change,
- 51:42if it be a substitution, if it be you know, tactic wise,
- 51:45whatever it may be, to uh to make these decisions and these changes.
- 51:50So yeah, to answer more more eleven's question, I would like the three
- 51:54four two one, but I think the flexibility of if it be a four
- 51:59three three, if it be a four two three one can also be in
- 52:01the back pocket. Because you know you're going to war. You kind of
- 52:06don't only want one one game plan. It's good to have an A,
- 52:09B, A C game plan, you know, go forbid something happens,
- 52:14or something changes or something needs to be changed. So entirely I'm going to
- 52:17stick on the on the frame of mind of you know, in SPOETI we
- 52:21trust. Last time around it was in MYCINI we trust. So I'm hoping
- 52:24that Spoti makes the red calls. And yeah, that's kind of how I
- 52:29see it. Picked for joy as the middle, in the middle of this,
- 53:22in the middle of this, all in the middle of Orenting. Just
- 53:24bring back some memories from here twenty twenty. What a meme, what a
- 53:28meme song with a great song. Uh, you know what. I was
- 53:30just looking at all them lineups from three years ago, match by match,
- 53:35and how much change, you know, looking at the first game, Florenzi
- 53:39started on the right side. Obviously he got hurt. Dealer Ronzo comes in,
- 53:45doesn't miss missus shift Spinazola gets hurt. What was it the Belgium game.
- 53:49Emerson starts in the final, Kiza did not start in the first two
- 53:52games, did not even start against Austria, and then he ends up starting
- 53:58in the final. Then I know Varati was heard at the beginning of the
- 54:00tournament two but obviously look started. But again that was one thing that at
- 54:06least Italy had that that depth. So in terms in terms of this tournament,
- 54:09you know, I'm sure if Italy goes deep, you know, starting
- 54:15players are gonna change and and hopefully then it'll be merit based. But but
- 54:20yeah, I do want to talk about the you know. Oh, by
- 54:23the way, by the way, Johnny gave yeah B plus just quick B
- 54:28plus plus, yeah for his grade. So to B plus is myself and
- 54:32Johnny and Nick straight B yeah yeah, so yeah take it take a straight
- 54:37from Johnny because he's the teacher. But I do want to give a little
- 54:42quick preview or predictions for Italy and in Group B. So they played June
- 54:47fifteenth against Albinia. That wins, So that's gonna bring back a lot of
- 54:51memories, you know, the famous the famous Grosco goal and the famous del
- 54:55Piero bowlders right there, right at the right in Doorman against Germany eighteen years
- 55:00ago. And then June twentieth they played Spain and gelsen Kirchen. I hope,
- 55:06I said that, right, Richard Carmon, that's against Spain. And
- 55:09then June twenty fourth in Leipzig against Croatia. So this is pretty much a
- 55:15group of death. Obviously, you know, in this tournament even third place
- 55:20teams team can go through depending on results from other you know, from the
- 55:24other third place teams. I think it's what top was it? Top four
- 55:30out of the six third place teams make it through. But obviously forly you
- 55:35want to finish in the top two. But it's gonna be tough just a
- 55:37really good teams. You know, Croatia teams like every year we talk about
- 55:42they're getting older, you know, this and that, and then look look
- 55:45at the look at the World Couples A twenty eighteen they went to the final,
- 55:49and then in twenty twenty two did they lose in the semi finals or
- 55:52quarterfinals? I forget. I want to say, Sammy's yeah. They you
- 55:57know, they just come up with these these this fresh, fresh, fresh
- 56:00batch of young players and you know, taking over from the likes of Madris.
- 56:05But it's gonna be tough. This, you know, is kind of
- 56:07throw back to Euro twenty twelve where they played Spain, Croatia, then Northern
- 56:09Ireland, and I think it's kind of gonna go like that tournament where they
- 56:15tied Spain, they tied Croatia and then they beat Northern Ireland. I you
- 56:19know, it's a bit opposite this time because they start off with Albania.
- 56:22So I think this, this is a mus this is a must win.
- 56:25It's almost the first game of tournament and it's it's a must win. And
- 56:28I'm not even kidding, because if you can't beat Albinia, no disrespect to
- 56:31Albania. I know they're a decent team. There's a reason why they're here.
- 56:36They're the dark horse in this in this group, for sure, they
- 56:38could play Cinderella. But if you don't beat Albania, I don't see how
- 56:43they could beat Spain in Croatia. You know they need the three points,
- 56:46especially if you want to go through. Even as a third place team,
- 56:50this is where you get your points. You three points could go a long
- 56:53way. And then I think versus Spain, it's gonna be tough. They've
- 56:59not done so well against Spain in recent years. They do well against them
- 57:02in the Euros, but then when they play outside the Euros, Spain always
- 57:06wins. It feels like they've played each other every single year between Nations League
- 57:09and Euros. And so they played was it the semifinals Euro twenty twenty,
- 57:15quarterfinals of course, Round of sixteen, Euro twenty sixteen, the final end
- 57:20groups age in Euro twenty twenty, in Euro twenty twelve, and the quarterfinals
- 57:23in Euro two thousand and eight. So this is gonna be what eighty twelve
- 57:29sixth street? No? No, not in twenty ten? No, No,
- 57:32they haven't played each other in the World Cup. Gone true, I
- 57:36don't know how long, but true, true. I think it's what six
- 57:39straight Euros that they play each other, which is just insane. It's gonna
- 57:45be tough. Spain's a good team based on what we've seen them against Spain
- 57:52in recent games. I'm gonna give Spain the edge in this one. But
- 57:54again, Italys had their number in Euros alone, well, at least the
- 58:00last two, not so much in twenty twelve and then against Croatia. I
- 58:04think, you know, this is probably a game that Italy's gonna go in
- 58:07and they'll probably it's not gonna be like the last Euros or even in twenty
- 58:13sixteen, where they knew they were gonna go through and they could you know,
- 58:15rest them starters. This is probably gonna be a game that maybe they'll
- 58:21need a point to go through or even win to go through. So I
- 58:22think this game is still gonna count for something, so that one's gonna be
- 58:28tougher. If it's if Italy doesn't win, I think it's a draw.
- 58:31But I do see I do a scenario. I do see a scenario in
- 58:35which Croatia wins too, because they are a good team and you know,
- 58:37they have more experience, you know, even at the World Cup. So
- 58:42it's gonna be really interesting. Like I said me, versus Albania must win.
- 58:45They really adried they If they don't win on June fifteenth, even if
- 58:51they get a draw, I'll be disappointed. And especially after all this that
- 58:54we've talked about criticize the team selections and that they have to win the other's
- 59:00going to be a fire on fire. If that doesn't the other two games,
- 59:04it's a bit different. They haven't lost. They haven't lost in the
- 59:08group stage even at any euro since they lost to Ireland in twenty and twenty
- 59:15sixteen. Because even when they went out to Germany in twenty sixteen, it
- 59:20was on twenty's technically not considered a loss. So you know, I don't
- 59:27knowing Italy, they'll probably That's why I say they'll probably win and draw two
- 59:30games and they'll and they'll go through that way, because I don't know if
- 59:35you could go out with five with five, if you've got five points,
- 59:38you know it's probably enough to go out even as to go through even as
- 59:40third place. So that that's my predictions for the group stage. Yeah,
- 59:45so for me, listen, if if if Italy focks around with Albania doesn't
- 59:52take them seriously and should hit the fan. And after what we saw today
- 59:55just on a base on the call ups, people are already going a bit
- 59:59crazy. If something off forbid happens, then it's gonna be game over.
- 1:00:04So you know, I totally I'm on board with that. It is a
- 1:00:09must win. Guys must win against Albania to start off the tournament. We
- 1:00:15were kind of on this similar wavelength last time around. Granted that time it
- 1:00:22was in Rome, so we had that home crowd behind us. But again,
- 1:00:28they need to win against Albania. There is no two ways about it.
- 1:00:32But you said a draw is not going to be enough. You know,
- 1:00:38if they go, if they go anywhere besides three points, it's people
- 1:00:45are going to get a lot more nervous and it's going to be a lot
- 1:00:47more writing on the same game. It's gonna be a lot more writing on
- 1:00:51the Croatia game. We can't leave it to the end to hopefully get out
- 1:00:55of it, and we can't have in the back of the mind, oh
- 1:00:59yeah, we can still finished third and maybe go and go through and and
- 1:01:05advance. I think it was like you said earlier, underscore Katana in the
- 1:01:10comments of our posts. It'll be a miracle if they get out of the
- 1:01:15group. I'm hoping it doesn't take a miracle to get out of this group.
- 1:01:19I think if we all know it's going to be a tough group,
- 1:01:22I think we all realize and understand that. But it's still doable this you
- 1:01:30know, you know Italy is going in there as reigning champions. They need
- 1:01:34to defend in the best way possible. In an ideal world when the thing
- 1:01:39again, that might not be the case, but again, we want to
- 1:01:44go out with pride, if, when, if, and when we do
- 1:01:45go out, but it can be in the group, it can be in
- 1:01:51the group. They need to get out of this group one way or another.
- 1:01:52They need to find a way to get out of the group. And
- 1:01:57I'm not like third place for me, it's it's it's not out of the
- 1:02:00group like it needs to be one two. It's gonna be tough to win
- 1:02:04the group. I think, you know, Spain are probably and I'm pretty
- 1:02:09sure almost one nine percent that they'll they're probably the favorites in this In this
- 1:02:15group, I think it's a battle for that second spot. Italy claims it
- 1:02:22it's it's it's all right, you know, we'll take second place, we'll
- 1:02:23get out of the group. But again, Italy needs to get out of
- 1:02:27the group. Anything can happen in tournament football. With Italy. Once we
- 1:02:31get out of the group, anything is anything as possible, anything is achievable,
- 1:02:36anything is attainable. So and anything can happen. So I'm gonna remain
- 1:02:40optimistic like I was in twenty twenty one. I'm going to remain optimistic again
- 1:02:47now in twenty twenty four for this year addition, and you know we're gonna
- 1:02:52have to see it, see it out. But I must win against Albinia
- 1:02:57to open the tournament. Is is right on Q And then in the next
- 1:03:04two games, like part of me is gonna say, they're gonna go one
- 1:03:07one in one, one win, one lost, one draw. Four points
- 1:03:14doesn't make it out. We don't know. Ideally, we would like the
- 1:03:19one win, two draws. In a realistic uh you know, universe,
- 1:03:24you know, pick up a draw against uh Spain in Croatia, take the
- 1:03:30three points from Albania and kind of advance that way. Whatever it needs to
- 1:03:35be. You guys can do the math. I don't really care how it
- 1:03:37gets done. But they need Italy needs to finish in those first two spots.
- 1:03:40Ideally, the first spot we'll try to be a bit not you know,
- 1:03:45biased and maybe a bit realistic. The first two spots are okay,
- 1:03:49So spec second spot is it's it's what it's. It is what it is,
- 1:03:52but we'll take it. But you know, I think every game is
- 1:03:58you're gonna have. These players gonna have to have than the mentality that it's
- 1:04:00it's it's it's a final. Every game is a final. Like you have
- 1:04:04three opportunities to get out of this group. You have to make the most
- 1:04:08out of these opportunities. And they're gonna have to do it. I don't
- 1:04:14know. Again, we can talk all we want to talk about player selection,
- 1:04:16formation, tactics, paletti, this, that and the other thing,
- 1:04:20but if they don't get it all together, they don't put it all together,
- 1:04:24make it right, it's all for no use. So again I'm remaining
- 1:04:28optimistic. I'm gonna be hopeful they're gonna get They need to get out of
- 1:04:31the group. Bottom line, So you know what if that's going to take
- 1:04:39and who that's gonna take is up for debate, But they need to make
- 1:04:43it out of the group. I think you're not only going to hear that
- 1:04:45from us here on the culture guys, I think you'll hear that wherever else
- 1:04:48you're listening to cultural related podcasts at ZUI podcast, anybody that's covering the tournament
- 1:04:54or the adjuri uh you know in in just the a duty uh in just
- 1:05:00be Edut the topic you're gonna hear from from everybody that's touching anything to do
- 1:05:03with culture in this tournament needs to get out of the group. However they
- 1:05:06do it. We can all debate, but they need to get out of
- 1:05:11the group. Yeah, And I mean there's no point in speculating, you
- 1:05:15know, uh, knock around who they going to play this and that.
- 1:05:17But if there is a round that you expected to get to, what is
- 1:05:21it. I think last time around we said semi finals, we would be
- 1:05:30happy again. I expect. I think we all expected we to do big
- 1:05:35things and to do great things, and tournament football we're so passionate and we
- 1:05:39see that not only here in Montreal, but anywhere there's Italians that we're passionate
- 1:05:45or around the world. So we just want, we want these moments and
- 1:05:48to enjoy as much as we can in these tournaments. So again, I'm
- 1:05:53gonna still stick with the semifinals. At the end of the day. I
- 1:05:56think if we bound, if we bow out in the quarters, it's I
- 1:06:01don't want to say, okay, but it's you can maybe swallow the pill.
- 1:06:08But I would I would, I would aim for semis. I think
- 1:06:14even though we were we were going crazy about some of these call ups,
- 1:06:16I think there is still quality on the lineup. Uh, in the list
- 1:06:21we said it earlier, there is still quality. Obviously some some head scratching
- 1:06:26decisions, don't get us wrong, but there is still some quality. So
- 1:06:30I'm gonna say semifinals. But yeah, no, I mean, like I
- 1:06:38said, get out of the Group Italy, anything can happen. So but
- 1:06:41I'm gonna stick with with the semi finals and uh. But again it all
- 1:06:45depends, right, There's so there's so many factors like last season last time
- 1:06:49around, like did we know that France is gonna get knocked out by Switzerland?
- 1:06:54You know, like nobody can predict these things, so it's very very
- 1:06:57hard to predict. So I'm not gonna put money on it, but you
- 1:07:01know, uh, it's for me. Yeah, semi finals is kind of
- 1:07:05where I'll be. I'll be happy with this. It's hard to really judge
- 1:07:10because this is Spoetti's first and it's uh so soon after being appointed the national
- 1:07:16team manager. So obviously the the expectations are going to be high because we're
- 1:07:21going in there as defending champions A rating champions. Sorry, uh so,
- 1:07:27the expectation is going to be high, not only on the team, but
- 1:07:30Spoletia has two to kind of you know, continue on this this positive because
- 1:07:35we went through a bit of a negative after winning the Euros, not making
- 1:07:39the World Cup and so on and so forth. But I think the expectations
- 1:07:43are going to be high. But at the same time, I think we
- 1:07:46have enough to you know, attain those those objectives and those expectations. So
- 1:07:53semi finals, I would say, yeah, uh, I'm gonna say quarters.
- 1:08:00Yeah, maybe I'm setting expectations a bit low, you know, in
- 1:08:04case they go further. But my game, So I don't know. Three
- 1:08:09years ago we did have higher expectations like we did at the end. I
- 1:08:12wasn't surprised Italy won. We knew they could have done it. If you
- 1:08:15know, maybe we have to look back on our episodes then maybe we did.
- 1:08:18Say se I'm pretty sure a lot of time we did, say semis
- 1:08:21or rather even finals, but we'll see, we'll see. Uh. It's
- 1:08:28hard because on one hand, it's like now we we saw them win,
- 1:08:31we know that feeling, and we know they're not at that level. But
- 1:08:36at the end of day, anything could happen, so you never know,
- 1:08:40you never know. I think I think next week Adrinal will probably do a
- 1:08:45full euro preview with if he's available available, will probably try to get a
- 1:08:49guest on. But unfortunately, you're not going to be here for the Euros,
- 1:08:56so this is pretty much your your last game of the season. We'll
- 1:09:00see, we'll see, we'll try to make it work. Well, yeah,
- 1:09:01we'll have to try to make it work. Yeah, but you're so
- 1:09:03you're going to Italy. So you're going to Italy. Yeah, I enjoy
- 1:09:06it. Enjoy it, Enjoy the crowds watching the games, Enjoy that opportunity,
- 1:09:14enjoy the feeling. You know. You think back some of the guests
- 1:09:15we've had on, they've told us they were in they were in Uh,
- 1:09:18they were in Italy in two thousand and six. I don't really know people
- 1:09:21who were there in twenty twenty one. I'm sure it was a bit harder
- 1:09:24because of the COVID restrictions, you know, and and but the people who
- 1:09:29are there in thousand and six all had great stories. I'm I'm going as
- 1:09:33well, right after you. You're coming back, I'm going. So I
- 1:09:36don't know. Hopefully, hopefully we get to watch at least one game together
- 1:09:40in the Euros, but we'll see, because I'll be in Italy only for
- 1:09:46like the semi finals and finals, so god knows if Italy will still be
- 1:09:50in it at that point. But uh, enjoy it, a dianop.
- 1:09:56It's it's a bit sad we won't be able to watch it all three of
- 1:09:59us, but you know, a trip to Italy is even better. Yeah,
- 1:10:01you know, listen, I'm obviously excited. It's uh, you know,
- 1:10:06part of me wants to kind of be in both locations at once because
- 1:10:11we were on such a high last time around. Obviously, you know,
- 1:10:14in twenty twenty one, just the emotion in the scenes here in Montreal,
- 1:10:19all the Italians getting together was was just beautiful. If it be at your
- 1:10:23chaos, if it be at other being little Italy, if it be at
- 1:10:27other cafes and bars Italian restaurants around the city, I know, everywhere that
- 1:10:32there was Italians, there was a good time. So, uh, you
- 1:10:38know, shout out to all the you know, all the cafes, Italian
- 1:10:43cafes, restaurants, bars that are going to be hosting you know, some
- 1:10:48watch parties, some events for the Euros here in Montreal. Because last time
- 1:10:54it was a it was a movie if it be RDP with you know,
- 1:10:57all the honking and all the craziness you know leading up to the final.
- 1:11:01In the final, I know RP is a movie. Uh literally it was
- 1:11:05crazy as well. So again it's I kind of want to be in both
- 1:11:10spots places at once. Listen, I'm gonna I'm gonna try to be as
- 1:11:15available as i can to still be on the podcast throughout the tournament because it's
- 1:11:20I'm gonna I'm gonna go crazy if I'm not, so I want to try
- 1:11:24to still be still be a part of it. But yeah, no,
- 1:11:28listen, wherever you're watching from, enjoy it because we know we will from
- 1:11:33wherever we're gonna be. So. But yeah, I'm hopeful for when I
- 1:11:38get back and before you leave, Johnny better be available. We're gonna have
- 1:11:42to hopefully watch at least one game, hopefully if it will still still in
- 1:11:46the tournament to watch together. But uh, but yeah, I'm excited.
- 1:11:53I think, uh, you know, doing these previews are getting us,
- 1:11:56you know, steps closer, inching closer to the tournament. I think today,
- 1:11:59well nine days away, yeah, nine days away from Italy kicking off.
- 1:12:03So guys, the countdown is on. We're under ten days until Italy
- 1:12:09kicks off in Euro twenty twenty four. Just be positive, I think,
- 1:12:13is the message, even though we rounted a bit today. Just be positive,
- 1:12:15be optimistic, support support your nation, support our nation, come together.
- 1:12:21I think as Italians we need to come together in these moments and you
- 1:12:26know we can come out on top hopefully. So so yeah, excited,
- 1:12:29excited to what what this tournament brings. And at the end of the day,
- 1:12:32just enjoy it. Because these these tournaments come around every two years or
- 1:12:38well sorry if Euros four years, in this case three years, but major
- 1:12:42tournaments usually every two years. We haven't had that, we haven't had the
- 1:12:45World Cup, so this is what we're left with with the Euros. You
- 1:12:49know, you know, being in this time again, it brings me back
- 1:12:53to twenty twenty one, where on one hand, you know, just amazing
- 1:12:59feelings. On the other hand, anyone who was a Habits fan or even
- 1:13:02a Lightning fan. You know, we had the playoffs, the Stanley Cup
- 1:13:04final the same week as Zero final, which was just in seeing that whole
- 1:13:09that whole month of sports was just like amazing memories for me personally. Yeah,
- 1:13:14and yeah, just just enjoy it. That's it. Being back in
- 1:13:17Germany is going to be bringing even back more memories, you know. I
- 1:13:21know today EA released the Euro twenty twenty four patch on EFC, So if
- 1:13:27you have the game, well play it, go win the Euros with Italy.
- 1:13:30Enjoy guys, enjoy it. Keep in tune with us on social media
- 1:13:33at the couch guys, Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook and YouTube as well.
- 1:13:40We'll see how much contact we could put out. I hope I want
- 1:13:42to still record every single week. I know Jenny's busy, even if it's
- 1:13:45just me and a guest, I'll I'm more than happy to do it and
- 1:13:47talk at ZOOTI, but I think that'll do it for us. Adriano.
- 1:13:51Yeah, we talked a lot more about the just just Italy than we expected,
- 1:13:57but hey, we're not surprised. This is the only time where we
- 1:14:00support the same team because every other week of the year we we uh weah
- 1:14:05yeah we bash heads. But thank you Adrian, and enjoy Italy and uh
- 1:14:12for Italia. Yeah, guys for Italia. And we'll be back next week
- 1:14:16to talk about more cultural Thanks for listening.