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Held Up by their Pinky Toes · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast
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  Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio.
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  Speaker 2: It's Almost Famous podcast. We are here. It's the off season.
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  Speaker 3: It's a very short off season for the Almost Famous podcast.
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  Speaker 3: We're going to be right back at it breaking down
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  Speaker 3: the Golden Bachelorette, and one of our hopes and goals
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  Speaker 3: and also one of our most earnest opinions, is that
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  Speaker 3: we hope you are so excited for the Golden Bachelorette
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  Speaker 3: and we want to get you excited for the Golden Bachelorettes.
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  Speaker 3: So we're going to end this episode talking about the
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  Speaker 3: Golden Bachelorette and its upcoming premiere on September eighteenth. We're punkier.
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  Speaker 3: It's Almost Famous podcast keeps our off season shorter.
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  Speaker 2: Which I like you do.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, you know, I like off season, but
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  Speaker 4: I also like in season.
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  Speaker 3: It does make it easier to talk to this But
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  Speaker 3: like when we had a longer off season, a deeper
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  Speaker 3: off season, I like you we got some guests, Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: we got some guests that like really pulled some some
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  Speaker 3: good stuff out. So we kind of turned more into
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  Speaker 3: just a breakdown podcast, which is fine.
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  Speaker 5: Kah, because I like interview heavy as well.
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  Speaker 4: Hey, guys, let us know what interviews you want us
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  Speaker 4: to see, what interviews you want to hear.
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  Speaker 5: Who we haven't had.
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  Speaker 3: On a good point, who would you be most interested
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  Speaker 3: in hearing from, even if we agree or disagree with
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  Speaker 3: them as people on the show, it would help us
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  Speaker 3: know who you're into.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and also, well you should let them know that
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  Speaker 4: a lot of the times we don't have control over
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  Speaker 4: the guests, getting guests who are still under contract. So
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  Speaker 4: if you're wondering, like why we haven't had you know,
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  Speaker 4: let's just say Devin. Well, the show is in charge
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  Speaker 4: about who Devin does and does not talk to, maybe
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  Speaker 4: not does not talk to, but like they're very going
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  Speaker 4: to be very picky, and they try to spread it
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  Speaker 4: out as much as they can.
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  Speaker 2: They're scared of us, actually that's what they are.
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  Speaker 3: They're scared that we would get the truth out and
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  Speaker 3: it would be too hard hitting, and so they're keeping
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  Speaker 3: Devin far away from almost famous podcast.
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  Speaker 4: Actually I'm going to be interest to see when they
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  Speaker 4: do let Devin speak, and yes, it really is like that, guys,
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  Speaker 4: when he is let to speak, sure he could get
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  Speaker 4: on Instagram and say what things that you know he
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  Speaker 4: wants to say but if it's anything about the show,
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  Speaker 4: they're going to tell him to take that.
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  Speaker 5: Down right away, right Yeah. And I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: I don't even think he's gonna want He probably doesn't
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  Speaker 4: want to talk. He probably doesn't want to do interviews
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  Speaker 4: right now.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I can't imagine any interview he's going
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  Speaker 3: to do makes him feel like he's.
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  Speaker 5: He's gonna look good.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think he can really. Only he can only
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  Speaker 4: go up. That's what I'm saying. He could only go.
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  Speaker 2: Then you should come on here. Then. Actually, we had
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  Speaker 2: a big weekend.
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  Speaker 3: We were together this weekend for a very exciting celebration
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  Speaker 3: of along Gale and his new wife, Molly. Alan was
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  Speaker 3: the executive producer during our time on the show and
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  Speaker 3: probably is the best known producer, I would say from
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  Speaker 3: the show, just because he has a big character, and
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  Speaker 3: he's gone on to do other projects post Bachelor World,
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  Speaker 3: like f Boy Island and Island.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, there's like some he have some horror movies in
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  Speaker 4: the works, And I think just because he is such
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  Speaker 4: a character, he kind of garnered a following on social
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  Speaker 4: media of his own.
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  Speaker 5: It's the Year of Alan.
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  Speaker 4: If you want to follow him on Instagram, and then
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  Speaker 4: like he has the food of a lawn. So so
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  Speaker 4: all of that just makes him he's just he is
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  Speaker 4: the ultimate character and we love him just in so
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  Speaker 4: many ways that we can't even describe.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you love and hate the man when you're with
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  Speaker 3: him working for him on the show, and then you
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  Speaker 3: learn to love him a lot. So he was to
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  Speaker 3: give some context for me. I think everybody that goes
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  Speaker 3: on the show that's around long enough has a moment
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  Speaker 3: with a lin that stands out.
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  Speaker 2: That's kind of what his thing. For me.
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  Speaker 3: He was the one that really, I don't want to
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  Speaker 3: say got me to because it kind of sounds like forced.
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  Speaker 3: He supported me in my kind of ability to admit, hey,
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  Speaker 3: I feel unlikable or my self esteem is so low
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  Speaker 3: on myself that I feel the more people get to
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  Speaker 3: know me, the less they'll like me, which came out
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  Speaker 3: on the show as I feel unlovable. That was a
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  Speaker 3: four hour conversation with a lot that we had one
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  Speaker 3: on one, and it was a beautiful conversation for me.
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  Speaker 3: It was one of the moments that I would say,
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  Speaker 3: you know, when you're on the show, you never know
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  Speaker 3: if you can trust alone or not. I think was
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  Speaker 3: kind of the the sentiment, unless.
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  Speaker 4: You're us trust to put my life eat to your hands.
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  Speaker 3: Such an interesting decision you make, considering now he does
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  Speaker 3: horror films. But the uh, you know, I think that
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  Speaker 3: was a conversation that I look back on today and
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  Speaker 3: has a had a massive impact in my life in
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  Speaker 3: the best of ways. And it was one of the
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  Speaker 3: first times I felt like somebody sat down and tried
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  Speaker 3: to get to know me, and then the more they
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  Speaker 3: got to know me, the less they didn't judge me.
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  Speaker 3: And he finally was like, you just feel lovable, and
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  Speaker 3: I was like, I do change everything. So Alan Is
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  Speaker 3: is a wise counsel, and he is missed on the show,
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  Speaker 3: I think, and in so many ways.
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  Speaker 4: Lots of people were dming me when they saw it
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  Speaker 4: was a lawn dwedding that we were at, and they're like, oh,
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  Speaker 4: the show hasn't been the same since he's left, Like
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  Speaker 4: I think a lot of people are aware of, like
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  Speaker 4: his tenor on the show a lawn to me, Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: we just had I can't even say it was a
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  Speaker 4: brother sister relationship.
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  Speaker 5: It was a godfather.
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  Speaker 4: And god daughters, a fairy god father, fair god father.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, what about Alan made you trust truly.
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  Speaker 4: Like giddy, like I would like just giggle and smile
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  Speaker 4: around him.
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  Speaker 5: And whenever he was not around for you know, say.
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  Speaker 4: It was nighttime on the show and he hadn't made
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  Speaker 4: his appearance yet, I'd be like.
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  Speaker 5: There's a lot, where's a lot. I need a lot.
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  Speaker 4: I need my heart and soul needs that man. And
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  Speaker 4: then he'd walk in the room and I basically would
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  Speaker 4: just like.
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  Speaker 2: Tomple him feels unhealthy, and I'd.
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  Speaker 4: Always like talk to him with my hands on his
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  Speaker 4: beard and just like look in his eyes, and I
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  Speaker 4: just fully put my trust in him. He always had
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  Speaker 4: my best interests at heart at a macro level, I felt,
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  Speaker 4: but he knew that he was going to have to
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  Speaker 4: put me through some small, smaller situations that I may
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  Speaker 4: not look good or I may have been really upset by.
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  Speaker 4: But at the end of the day, he was always
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  Speaker 4: telling me, even if this feels that's the best word
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  Speaker 4: I can use, You're gonna turn out great in the end, okay.
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  Speaker 4: And I think looking back on it, it was more
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  Speaker 4: of like you need those moments where you look like
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  Speaker 4: you don't know what you're doing, that you look really
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  Speaker 4: dumb to be like almost related like these are true
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  Speaker 4: to you. These characteristics are true to you, and it's
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  Speaker 4: going to make you so much more human in the end,
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  Speaker 4: and looking back on the experience so far removed, I
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  Speaker 4: see exactly what he's talking about. Some of my worst
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  Speaker 4: looking moments on the show. I think, like when you
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  Speaker 4: add it with like all the moments.
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  Speaker 5: Together, like just made me a better character.
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  Speaker 4: And he was absolutely right in the sense that I
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  Speaker 4: was really dumb at times, but then at the end
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  Speaker 4: of the day, look go what my life turned into.
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  Speaker 3: He gets to know the characters very well, which is
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  Speaker 3: a testament to his job.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, his storytelling is unbelievable.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 3: He was the efficient at you and Jared's wedding. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: your wedding, which was really beautiful. So, yes, had a
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  Speaker 3: huge impact in your life.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: There are other Bachelor contestants, some of which weren't even there,
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  Speaker 3: that he's had massive impacts in their lives. But the
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  Speaker 3: ones that were there where Nick and Natalie, We had Aaron,
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  Speaker 3: Adam and Raven, You and Jared. There was obviously Jessica
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  Speaker 3: and myself, Ari and Lauren Lyon Thurston. Katie Thurston was there, JP,
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  Speaker 3: Chris Harrison and his wife Lauren, who else, Scletar who
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  Speaker 3: was a producer on the show back in the day, Bennett,
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  Speaker 3: who was still on the.
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  Speaker 2: Show as a producer, was there. A couple of other producers.
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  Speaker 4: C Ohn know is Nicole's not there anymore? And then
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  Speaker 4: Peter Guice who also is not there anymore. So I
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  Speaker 4: think Bennett is the only one that was Oh Jana too.
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  Speaker 3: There's a lot of people that are now working for
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  Speaker 3: Alan that used to work on the Bachelor franchise. I
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  Speaker 3: know we're forgetting somebody that was there from the Bachelor World.
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  Speaker 3: Let me just review the picture real quick.
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  Speaker 5: Caitlyn was supposed to be there, she couldn't.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure there was a lot that were supposed to
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  Speaker 2: be there that weren't.
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  Speaker 4: There too, which interesting. Caitlin and Tasha both the ones
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  Speaker 4: that didn't show up, well, that.
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  Speaker 2: Just feels sad that they weren't. But Oh Joe and
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  Speaker 2: Serena were there. That's it.
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  Speaker 3: We named them all, so we got through everybody there.
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  Speaker 3: It was a beautiful wedding we thought it would be.
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  Speaker 3: Jessica explained it last night at dinner. I think in
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  Speaker 3: a really great way. I said, Jessica, what do you
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  Speaker 3: think of the wedding? She's like, it was incredible, it
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  Speaker 3: was beautiful, it was heart like felt, she was. I
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  Speaker 3: was just surprised because I had prepared for it to
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  Speaker 3: be a lot less wedding e than it was. It
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  Speaker 3: was a wedding, I thought, and I agreed with her.
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  Speaker 3: I thought it'd be a little more eccentric. I thought
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  Speaker 3: they would find even weirder things to do. Yes, the
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  Speaker 3: whole ceremony, there were plenty of weird things, sure, but
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  Speaker 3: it was a very beautiful wedding. Like it was a
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  Speaker 3: great celebration of the two of them, Molly and Alan.
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  Speaker 3: Molly is a big time actress, has been in a
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  Speaker 3: lot of.
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  Speaker 5: Different things, most notably Castle.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, most notably Castle. Now the two of them are
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  Speaker 3: working together on a few different projects and have kind
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  Speaker 3: of gone to the development side of things together and
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  Speaker 3: they've done some incredible will work within that realm. But
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  Speaker 3: Molly is uh, well, looked stunning. Everybody I hear from
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  Speaker 3: on Instagram or is telling me that Molly just looked beautiful,
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  Speaker 3: and she did.
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  Speaker 4: We don't have any pictures of her ethereal dress from
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  Speaker 4: the ceremony. She decided not to wear white, which I
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  Speaker 4: think made sense for her just to have an offbeat,
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  Speaker 4: non traditional wedding dress.
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  Speaker 5: Because we weren't allowed to take pictures during the ceremony.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if that there's any pictures out there
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  Speaker 4: of that, but it was so pretty.
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  Speaker 5: I'm sure they will be eventually. And then James Gunn
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  Speaker 5: the show of DC Comics kind of that was the
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  Speaker 5: head of Easy Comics.
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  Speaker 4: Someone Is was the efficient and that's because they met
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  Speaker 4: for the first time at his house.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and he was also the producer director on Guardians
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  Speaker 3: of the Galaxy. So James Gunn's a big name, kind
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  Speaker 3: of a household name. He did do the ceremony. There
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  Speaker 3: were other stars there, some of which I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: The name of.
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  Speaker 5: Beth Green, Matthew Lillard.
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  Speaker 3: Nathan Fillion was there. Nathan Fillions, if you looked him up,
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  Speaker 3: you would know him for so many things.
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  Speaker 2: He was in.
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  Speaker 3: Rookie and Castle, Firefly, the Suicide Squad. He's like one
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  Speaker 3: of those actors that is in everything and you just
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  Speaker 3: like don't.
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  Speaker 2: Know his name.
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  Speaker 4: Is he the one that was in the Dark Knight? Probably, Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: there was in the Dark Knight. And then Chris Chris
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  Speaker 4: Sullivan is the one from This Is Us. What else
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  Speaker 4: did I want to mention from Oh yeah, the funny
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  Speaker 4: part where a lawn had I think along wrote this
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  Speaker 4: song about a boy in peanuts and going to hell.
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  Speaker 2: There's a real Peanuts Golden Boy Peanuts.
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  Speaker 5: Golden Boy Peanuts. Yeah, I mean it's a peanut brand.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, So he like wrote a song and then they
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  Speaker 4: gave us these pamphlets to not open until the song
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  Speaker 4: was supposed to be performed. And guys, we all sang
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  Speaker 4: a song that we had never heard before. So just
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  Speaker 4: imagine people trying to come up with and like the
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  Speaker 4: beat in the rhythm of a song that they've never heard,
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  Speaker 4: we all saying the lyrics together.
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  Speaker 5: It was the most alaw on moment ever.
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  Speaker 2: Alan did not come up with that song.
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  Speaker 5: Just let you know, Oh really, who did.
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  Speaker 3: The Mountain Goats his favorite band from forever ago. It's
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  Speaker 3: a Mountain Goats song, Golden Boy Peanuts, and it's probably
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  Speaker 3: his favorite Mountain Goats song.
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  Speaker 2: But it's it is. You can listen to it.
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  Speaker 3: It's by the Mountain Goats called Golden Boy.
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  Speaker 4: Well, anyway, you guys, it was a great wedding, and
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  Speaker 4: it to us was a bachelor family wedding because to me,
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  Speaker 4: Alan is the head wizard and always will be of
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  Speaker 4: the Bachelor franchise. And he made that Golden era that
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  Speaker 4: a lot of people refer to from like two thousand
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  Speaker 4: and yeah, Like you know, he started, I want to
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  Speaker 4: say he started with Emily Maner's season through he left
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  Speaker 4: where about before Hannah season. Hannah season was the first
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  Speaker 4: one with Alalon.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Final story from the wedding, A couple of things, just
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  Speaker 3: a quick breakdown. People wondered and asked us whether what
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  Speaker 3: is it like to get together again?
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  Speaker 2: Is it awkward? Is it weird? Never weird? Never awkward.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sure you know there's disagreements amongst the different some
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  Speaker 3: of the different people. I don't know them necessarily, but
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  Speaker 3: everybody gets along really well. It's really exciting to be
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  Speaker 3: with this group. We get so excited and it's it's
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  Speaker 3: interesting to me how you know. At first these were
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  Speaker 3: big parties, big celebration. This was a big party in celebration.
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  Speaker 3: But now a lot of the conversation aers found kids.
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  Speaker 3: Things have taken a massive step into families and kind
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  Speaker 3: of children. A lot of the people they're having children,
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  Speaker 3: are getting married and you know, hoping to have a
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  Speaker 3: family one day of some kind and so that was
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  Speaker 3: a big conversation. For a lot of it is what
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  Speaker 3: are you doing with your kids and how are your
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  Speaker 3: kids doing? And then my favorite story from the whole
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  Speaker 3: night is they served all different types of Asian cuisine
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  Speaker 3: during this ceremony. One of it was rice noodles. Ashley
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  Speaker 3: grabbed the bowl of rice noodles. You can check my
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  Speaker 3: instagram right now for the exact picture. She went to
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  Speaker 3: scoop out her rice noodles and they went all over
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  Speaker 3: her chest. It was impressive just how much she just
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  Speaker 3: got out of the bowl onto her body, and then
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  Speaker 3: just in good old Ashley fashion.
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  Speaker 2: She picks it off and throws it right back into
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  Speaker 2: the shared bowl.
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  Speaker 5: I know, I didn't even didn't even dawn on me.
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  Speaker 4: It's actually I feel like, in Ashley fashion, it would
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  Speaker 4: go right in my mouth.
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  Speaker 5: But didn't do that either.
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  Speaker 4: As far as the drama that happens at these things there,
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  Speaker 4: this wasn't dramatic, but it was a tidbit. It was
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  Speaker 4: the first time Raven and Nick had seen each other
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  Speaker 4: since the ending of their season.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I told Jessica that night, I said, you know,
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  Speaker 3: Raven was number two on Nick season, and she goes
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  Speaker 3: no way and say they make no sense, and she's like,
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  Speaker 3: is that we weird for them? And I was like, no,
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  Speaker 3: it'd be about as weird as me seeing Jojo, Like
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  Speaker 3: now we're married and we're starting families, Like it would
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  Speaker 3: not be weird I mean for me in that situation
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  Speaker 3: at all. I don't know the dynamic necessarily with Nick
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  Speaker 3: and Raven. I don't think it ended poorly necessarily.
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  Speaker 5: No, it certainly didn't.
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  Speaker 4: And it's not like Natalie is ever going to feel
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  Speaker 4: weird about it, and Adam certainly is not going because
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  Speaker 4: he's like part of the.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Adam, Adam, I think could care less.
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  Speaker 5: I don't even think Adam remembers.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't think Adam has any idea how Raven
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  Speaker 3: season on of The Bachelor ended, Like, I don't think
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  Speaker 3: he thinks about it at all, or nor does he
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  Speaker 3: lose sleep on it, because the two of them are happy.
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  Speaker 3: Everybody's happy now and kind of off in your own lanes.
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  Speaker 3: It's I would say, it's even. It would be less
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  Speaker 3: awkward than even sitting in a room full of exes
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  Speaker 3: like in real life. I mean, you can make that work,
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  Speaker 3: right if you're.
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  Speaker 5: Hundred percent if your real life exes.
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  Speaker 4: That feels a lot weirder because at least with The Bachelor,
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  Speaker 4: you know that they have only hung out like an
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  Speaker 4: on camera situations and that their dates were really sure
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  Speaker 4: that it was probably fleeting feeling. Well, I mean, you
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  Speaker 4: know it's it's oftentimes not fleeting feelings. But in my
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  Speaker 4: case with like crystals, it's like you're so in your
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  Speaker 4: head about how much you like them, and then you
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  Speaker 4: leave the show for a week and you're like, oh, okay,
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  Speaker 4: so I was wrapped up in things.
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  Speaker 5: So a lot of there's a lot of that.
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  Speaker 4: And then before we move on from Alan's wedding, I
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: do want to say that, like, yeah, it's so exciting
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: to see each other, but we often don't know who's
• 16:34
  Speaker 4: going to attend these weddings because we don't ask ahead
• 16:37
  Speaker 4: of time because it's like, you don't want to be offensive.
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: So Ben obviously bent with a lot. Having officiated our wedding,
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: you could have assumed that, yes, we were gonna be there.
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: It'd be weird that somebody officiates someone's wedding and they
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: don't invite them to their own.
• 16:52
  Speaker 5: But like with you, was like do I ask him?
• 16:55
  Speaker 5: With the Raven, I was.
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: Like, do I ask her because there are all these
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: people like Joe, I wasn't one hundred percent I knew
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: Nick because you know, I know that Nick and Alon've
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: always been so close. But yeah, so the week of
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: or you're either finding out who's definitely going to come,
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: or you don't find out until you're walking into the
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: you know venue, and you're like, oh my.
• 17:18
  Speaker 5: God, Yeah, I'm so glad you're here. I'm so glad
• 17:20
  Speaker 5: you're here. And then the moment's gone too fast, and
• 17:22
  Speaker 5: then we wonder will we ever get these were unions again?
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: I hope so, I hope.
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: So they're They're meaningful to so many and I know
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: they're you know, they're meaningful for you, and it's always
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: something I look forward to. These are good people, well
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: speaking to good people. We do have headlines to get
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: to today. The big headline of the week obviously was
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: that so much a Bachelor nation got together for this
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: incredible ceremony of for Alan and Molly. It was a
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: great night. But also we had a big announcement last
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: week where Jin and Joey are both appearing on Dancing
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: with the Stars. It's a full slate now of dancers
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: and celebrities who are going to be on this season,
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: actually tell me if I'm wrong, because I don't know,
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: and you are a historian of the Bachelor franchise. Has
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: two Bachelor contestants ever been on the same season.
• 18:09
  Speaker 5: No, they have not been.
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: And we actually have stats about who is more likely
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: to be ahead in this competition, Joey or Jen, and
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: it's definitely Jen. So the women have one the show.
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: No male contestant from The Bachelor has one. Dancing with
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: the Stars, the current odds are that if we were
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: to place bats that Jen will rank second for the
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: mirror Ball Trophy with nine to two odds. And then
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: the person who's most notable, who's who Vegas has winning,
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: is the gymnast, Stephen Natrowski. I don't know how to
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: say that the gymnast Stephen, and then Joey is in
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: sixth place with the odds for this season nine to
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: one odds, but the averages that usually Bachelor Nation men
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: are doomed to finish somewhere in the middle of the pack.
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: We're thinking Chrys sols Nick and Joe.
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: Grocer show Joe from the past couple of years.
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: Matt James is on it as well right, oh yeah.
• 19:29
  Speaker 5: And Matt he ended up in twelve place.
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, so we're hoping for a good appearance out
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: of them both.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to be surprised if Jim's really good
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: at this.
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: Me too.
• 19:40
  Speaker 5: I see like she's going to be really good.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: It almost seems unfair every time they have like a
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: gymnast on and like, of course they're going to be
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: a good dancer. Yeah, they can hold themselves up by
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: their peinky toes. They can spin on their pinky toes too. Okay,
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: big headline here, Ashley, I want to hear how you
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: feel about it. Maria from Joey's season of The Bachelor
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: confirm she's not going on Bachelor in Paradise. This is
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: shocking to me, Ashley, and.
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: I don't believe it, Okay, Okay, well sometime I don't
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: believe it. I think that like she's probably thinking, I
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: don't want to go on Bachelor in Paradise, Like I can't.
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: I don't like dealing with this drama because she got
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: sucked into the drama of this week after it was
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: said on after the final Rows that she followed Devon
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: and then like some people were speculating that she was
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: the reason that Jen and Devon split and that's obviously
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: not the case. But I think she just doesn't like
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: getting caught up in this stuff. And she was controversial
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: during her season, but I think also beloved Money, yeah,
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: and mostly beloved, So.
• 20:44
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: I think that Money can talk, and if she doesn't
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: you Paradise, then it's like she just seems to have
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: the personality that is going to want to be on TV.
• 20:56
  Speaker 5: And if she.
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: Doesn't say it's to Paradise, she's kind of saying I
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: may never be on TV again. And because she was
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: mostly beloved, I just feel like.
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: Why would she not. I don't know, I don't, I
• 21:08
  Speaker 5: don't know. And money and Money talks well.
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: But Paradise is also I think, such a good environment
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: for her. It feels like Paradise fits her where you
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: do get not that she needs a redemption story, but
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: like she you to know her better. You'll get to
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: see her date and who she's actually into and kind
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: of what she's all about. And I thought she would
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: be kind of a hot commodity on the beach this year.
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: Well, it seems like the guys are definitely interested because
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: not only follow but we heard about the sam sam
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: n sam.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: M sam m. What did he do? I don't know
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: if I know this.
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: He was the one who told Jen on that group
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: date that he was thinking that the bachelorette was.
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: Gonna be Maria and that's like why he signed up.
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: Uh yeah, that's right, goodness, gracious, well, shocking news that
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: she's saying she's not going on the beach, like you said,
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: you'll believe it when you see it.
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: There's a lot of time before they start really casting
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: and filming, Like we're talking if we're on the regular schedule,
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: if we're gonna get right back on the regular schedule
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: and film Paradise in June. Yeah, they have until she
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: has until May to think this, think about this, and
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: she also has until May to feel her fame died down.
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: And I'm not talking about her being a attention hood
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: like I would say the same thing about myself.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: Back in the day.
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: I know many people who come off the show and
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: they're like, no, I'm good with where I'm at, like
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: it feels like things are clicking, and then four months,
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: five months later they're like, like we talked about with
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: Devin last week, like all of a sudden This kind
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: of like you close your eyes and you open it
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: and nobody's calling you. You're not getting ay deals, you're
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: not getting the free dinners like you were, Hotels aren't
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: hitting you up to stay there for free and travel
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: for them, and you're like, wait, I need to go
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: back on Paradise.
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: I mean I think we've seen many. I mean look at.
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: Dean, like, I think I was one of Deans when
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: he met his now wife, was I just wanted I
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: need to get back out there again.
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and he was like, oh, you know what, the
• 23:05
  Speaker 5: bank accounts a little low.
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so he just did it.
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: We have another headline about Jess how did you say
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: You're gor Rid? And then Kylie Russell, two girls that
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: after coming off Paradise last season, they were like absolutely
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: not doing it again. They had like a party that
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: they were that their finale had aired. And now if
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: when you read this interview, they say that they're both
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: pretty much down to do Paradise again.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: The headline is this Jess and Kylie reveal if they
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: would go on Paradise again and also who they'd want
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: to see there. I always think that's a fun question
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: to ask, what kind of hints at who's been talking
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: to who.
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: They don't have any fun answer to that because they
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: say that because they went in to last season kind
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: of having blinders on and being very focused on the
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: guys that they ended up with. You know, Kylie was
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: engaged to Avan that they both want to go into
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: Paradise this time. If they are asked with a more
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: open mind, I.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: Think it would be a great decision.
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: I think Paradise sounds like so much fun if you
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: are single and you're coming off the show and you've
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: given yourself a break from the cameras and you're living
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: your best life. I think Paradise is a great choice
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: for so many to go back on again, and even
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: those who had a rough go on the show. I
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: think in the samms, even like the people that really
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: like didn't have a great time on the big show,
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: typically they go on Paradise and there is a redemption
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: story for them, and that's always something that we like
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: to watch here, something to celebrate here. And oftentimes those
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: people who have the redemption story, you end up finding
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: somebody really great on during their time on the beach.
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: Now actually kind of close out this headlines, I don't
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: know if you know or not. No, I'm more curious myself.
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: Do you know where they're deciding to film Paradise, because
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: obviously it's not going to be at the same mansion of.
• 25:10
  Speaker 5: The I don't know, so hopefully we'll find that soon.
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: I'm sure you could start to text and find out
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: so that we can start getting people excited now. Actually,
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: final little segment of this show. Obviously we talked about
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: the Golden Bachelorette. It's airing September eighteenth. The guys I
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: continue to see on commercials. I continue to see their
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: bios come out. We continue to learn more about who
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: they are as people we see little clips of the show.
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: In general, I think this cast of men will make
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: GEN seasons cast of men look terrible, because not that
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: they need any help with that, but these dudes I
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: think are really well prepared for this experience. I was
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: nervous about the casting for The Golden Bachelorette, but it
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: feels like the department spent.
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: A little more time on.
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: These guys than they did for GEN season. I could
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: now be more excited to see Jones's journey unfold on
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: national television. I'll stop there because I have some closing thoughts.
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: Okay, well, so our friend Lindsay Lyles, who is also
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: a Bachelor producer, she got an Emmy nomination, didn't win,
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: but Emmy nomination for her casting of The Golden Bachelor.
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: So that was like the first.
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: Time that the show has gotten a nomination in that area,
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: or at least it has for a very long time.
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: So yes, maybe they are putting a little bit more
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: effort into the casting of Golden Hopefully this one will
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: be just as good. But I have to say the
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: casting for of Kelsey's dad, which I know I bring
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: up Kelsey's dad Mark a lot, but the way that
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: he was smiling in the audience of the finale last week,
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: and the way that Joan was smiling when they were
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: talking about him, maybe the best cast was the easiest cast. Yeah,
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: I think that they might be.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: That'd be awesome, that would be so amazing.
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: I think the show is hitting a good stride when
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: it comes to the Golden Show.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: My honest opinion is this, I had a lot of
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: high hopes. Obviously, it was a different time when The
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: Golden Bachelor was coming out, because I was like, I
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: want to be a part of it. I still do
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: love to be, but I've pretty much came to terms
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: that I will have no part of it ever, and
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: that's okay. I'll just talk about it on this show.
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: I wanted to be a big fan of the show.
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: I really loved watching The Golden Bachelor. I did think
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: the ending, especially of the show.
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: Kind of threw me off. It made me lose.
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: Trust in this Golden show. It made me confused at
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: the Golden Show. It made it almost feel like to me,
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: they were putting so much of their eggs in this
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: golden basket and it was such a success that the
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: show would find a way to ruin itself very quickly.
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: And I think they were close.
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: However, I want to and I'm asking all the almost
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: famous listeners too, to start over, because I think they
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: were getting their feet underneath them for the Golden Bachelor.
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: I think they were trying to understand how it would
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: look and how it would operate. I don't think it
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: was probably done perfectly, and I do think they're prepared
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: better for the Golden Bachelorette show, and I am excited
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: to watch it. I am just as excited to watch
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: Joan's journey because I think Joan is fantastic. I think
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: she is an incredible choice for the Golden Bachelorette. I've
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: gotten to know Joan, I've gotten a message with Joan.
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: She is sweet, she's encouraging, she is supportive, she's obviously
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: a family person. She's beautiful, and she's wonderful. And I
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: have high hopes that Joan is going to be kind
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: of the foundational piece to wear this Golden Show goes
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: from here on out. Not that Gary wasn't. I'm not
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: saying Gary wasn't, but I do think Gary's story now
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: is a little bit banished, tarnished based on all the
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: stuff that happened. Yeah, and I think Joan is a fresh, new,
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: good start for the show.
• 29:16
  Speaker 5: Okay, I totally agree.
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: There's like nothing about Joan that we know so far
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: that makes her at all unlikable.
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: She's just goodness, gracious nod.
• 29:24
  Speaker 5: She just seems like goodness. So I'm excited to see her.
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: She's going to be a star. She should be a star.
• 29:30
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: And guys, if you if you think that Ben's his
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: predictions about the guys are good, you know, his off
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: the cuff comments about judging them based on just their pictures.
• 29:42
  Speaker 5: If you think that's good. You know Jared Freed has
• 29:45
  Speaker 5: you be you know Jared Freed, Yeah, the comedian, comedian.
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he did this on his Instagram today. I think
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: this is his Yeah, his first impressions of these guys
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: absolutely hilarious.
• 30:00
  Speaker 5: You've got to go check it out.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: Does he find them as attractive, like in good looking
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: as I did? Yeah? Yeah, they're like studs.
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: Like all these guys for some reason, took model pictures
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: where when they do the Bachelorette show, all the guys
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: look like they're telling taking their sixth grade elementary school
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: like picks. And it's ridiculous that they like they did
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: up these guys put them in the leather jackets. There's
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: no way that many loather jackets are owned by this
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: many men.
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: But yeah, go listen to Jared.
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: But it's just absolutely ridiculous how they made these men
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: the photo shoots, like the fashion and the background is
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: just so.
• 30:37
  Speaker 5: Much better than the big Ass and the regular Bachelorette.
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: It's a little offensive, quite honestly, I don't know where
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: I'm treating these elderly people so kindly.
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: Anyways, we're pumped for it. It's going to be a great.
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: Season and make sure you tune in as we get
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: closer and closer to a brand new season within the franchise.
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: The Golden Bachelorett air September eighteenth on ABC. But until
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: next time, where we talk more kind of off season
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: topics and hopefully have some really cool interviews and bring
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: some good content your way.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: I've been Ben, I've been Ashley.
• 31:11
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• 31:13
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