Latest / Crime Night / Zina's Murder Juvenile Justice Crisis
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- 0:00Speaker 1: The years twenty thirteen. The setting is Port, said, a
- 0:04Speaker 1: vibrant port city right on the Mediterranean coast of Egypt.
- 0:08Speaker 2: And we're high up on the eighth floor of an
- 0:10Speaker 2: apartment building. This is a place filled with families who
- 0:12Speaker 2: are really close knit. There's this profound sense of security.
- 0:16Speaker 1: Right. This is home to Xena. She's five years old,
- 0:19Speaker 1: and she's known around the entire neighborhood simply as the
- 0:23Speaker 1: Angel of Port said.
- 0:24Speaker 2: She was just beautiful, so playful and sociable, and her
- 0:29Speaker 2: family they were really pillars in this community, known for
- 0:32Speaker 2: being generous kind. I mean, the trust in that building
- 0:36Speaker 2: was absolutely.
- 0:36Speaker 1: And that trust, that feeling of safety, that's exactly what
- 0:40Speaker 1: makes what happened next so devastating.
- 0:43Speaker 2: It's around nine zero zero pm, a total normal evening.
- 0:46Speaker 2: A private tutor has just shown up for Zena's older brother.
- 0:49Speaker 1: And Xena, being five, is getting a little restless.
- 0:51Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. She asked her mother if she can go
- 0:53Speaker 2: play just outside the apartment door. It's open. She can
- 0:56Speaker 2: see her cousins other kids from the building right there in.
- 0:59Speaker 1: The hallway in this kind of environment. That's a perfectly
- 1:01Speaker 1: normal request.
- 1:02Speaker 2: Right, Oh, completely, it happens every day So she's out
- 1:05Speaker 2: there playing visible from the door, and a couple of
- 1:08Speaker 2: neighbors come by. Okay, they're looking for a lighter, and
- 1:10Speaker 2: they just had a new baby. So Xena, you know,
- 1:13Speaker 2: she's eager to help and she wants to see the infant.
- 1:15Speaker 2: So she goes with them just for a moment, just
- 1:17Speaker 2: down the hall right. She's with them for maybe a
- 1:19Speaker 2: few minutes. Then she tells them she needs to go
- 1:21Speaker 2: back to her mom's apartment to use the bathroom.
- 1:23Speaker 1: And that moment, that's it. That's the last confirmed innocent
- 1:28Speaker 1: sighting of Xena.
- 1:29Speaker 2: Thirty minutes past thirty minutes, and those same neighbors come back.
- 1:32Speaker 2: They knock on Zena's door and ask her mother how
- 1:35Speaker 2: she's doing, just assuming she'd been back inside the whole time.
- 1:37Speaker 1: And that's that's the moment the world just stops for
- 1:41Speaker 1: her mother.
- 1:42Speaker 2: She realizes Zena isn't in the apartment. She never came back.
- 1:46Speaker 1: A five year old girl vanishes, not from a park,
- 1:51Speaker 1: not from a street, but inside her own building, on
- 1:55Speaker 1: her own floor.
- 1:56Speaker 2: The panic was just you need it, It was escalating
- 1:59Speaker 2: so fast. The mother is searching everywhere, under beds, in closets,
- 2:04Speaker 2: every corner of that apartment. She starts going floor by floor,
- 2:07Speaker 2: screaming Zena's name, banging on every single door. A frantic
- 2:12Speaker 2: crowd of neighbors starts to form their angel is gone.
- 2:16Speaker 1: And as the search grows, two figures start to emerge.
- 2:19Speaker 1: Both are seventeen year olds and both are right there
- 2:21Speaker 1: participating in the search. The first is Alaha. He's the
- 2:25Speaker 1: building's caretaker, right.
- 2:26Speaker 2: He helps his uncle manage the place, and neighbors noticed
- 2:30Speaker 2: something odd. He was physically shaking, just extremely nervous.
- 2:34Speaker 1: But they just dismissed it.
- 2:36Speaker 2: They dismissed it completely. They're thinking, was you know, Xena
- 2:39Speaker 2: loved Allah, she was always joking with him. He was
- 2:42Speaker 2: part of the community, so they just assumed he was
- 2:44Speaker 2: terrified for And the second person moh Mood, another seventeen
- 2:48Speaker 2: year old neighbor from the fifth floor, And the material
- 2:51Speaker 2: is really clear on this. He was already viewed with
- 2:53Speaker 2: a lot of suspicion in the building for what, like
- 2:55Speaker 2: what kind of suspicions just strange behavior. People felt he
- 2:59Speaker 2: had criminal tendencies. But still there he is right in
- 3:03Speaker 2: the middle of the search party.
- 3:04Speaker 1: And almost immediately the whole situation gets confusing. There are
- 3:08Speaker 1: red herrings being thrown out deliberately.
- 3:11Speaker 2: One neighbor says they heard a strange, loud noise coming
- 3:15Speaker 2: from the lightwell the man war.
- 3:17Speaker 1: Which is that vertical shaft that runs through the middle
- 3:21Speaker 1: of the building.
- 3:22Speaker 2: Exactly, but they couldn't say when they heard it. Other
- 3:25Speaker 2: people check Xena's apartment windows, but her mom had iron
- 3:28Speaker 2: bars on all of them, so an accidental fall from
- 3:31Speaker 2: her own home was impossible.
- 3:34Speaker 1: And this is where it gets really insidious. Ma Mood,
- 3:36Speaker 1: the one everyone already distrusts. He goes right up to
- 3:39Speaker 1: Zena's mother.
- 3:40Speaker 2: And he tells her she should stop searching the building
- 3:42Speaker 2: immediately and go to the police station to file a
- 3:44Speaker 2: kidnapping report.
- 3:46Speaker 1: Wait, so he's trying to get her to leave, the
- 3:48Speaker 1: most important person in the search, he's trying to send
- 3:50Speaker 1: her away.
- 3:51Speaker 2: It's a clear attempt to get her out of the building.
- 3:53Speaker 2: And then Mamoud's own mother adds to it. She claims
- 3:57Speaker 2: she saw two strange looking men and the building an
- 4:00Speaker 2: hour before Xena disappeared.
- 4:02Speaker 1: So they're building a false narrative, an outside threat.
- 4:05Speaker 2: Exactly controlling the chaos from within.
- 4:08Speaker 1: The search has hit a wall. Everyone's frantic. They're looking
- 4:10Speaker 1: for these strange men. But it's one of the suspects
- 4:13Speaker 1: who breaks the deadlock.
- 4:15Speaker 2: It's Allah, the nervous caretaker. He's the one who suggests.
- 4:19Speaker 1: It suggests what he says.
- 4:20Speaker 2: They should open the sealed access door to the lightwell
- 4:23Speaker 2: the man war the very place that neighbor heard the noise.
- 4:27Speaker 1: Wow, So they do it. They opened the.
- 4:28Speaker 2: Door and what they see is just devastating. Zena is
- 4:32Speaker 2: lying on the ground at the bottom of the shaft, unconscious.
- 4:36Speaker 1: Oh no.
- 4:36Speaker 2: She and her mother are rushed to the hospital, but
- 4:39Speaker 2: the investigation later uncovered this truly cold detail. Allah and
- 4:43Speaker 2: the mood followed them there.
- 4:45Speaker 1: Not because they were concerned.
- 4:47Speaker 2: No, they went to confirm that she was dead, to
- 4:50Speaker 2: make sure their secret was safe.
- 4:52Speaker 1: And despite everything the doctors tried to do, Xena died
- 4:55Speaker 1: from her injuries. Her death just ignited this this social
- 4:59Speaker 1: explode across the entire city.
- 5:01Speaker 2: Once the police got involved, the dots connected terrifyingly fast.
- 5:05Speaker 2: All that suspicious behavior from the two seventeen year old
- 5:07Speaker 2: suddenly made perfect horrific.
- 5:09Speaker 1: Sense, and the truth of what they did it was
- 5:12Speaker 1: just the ultimate betrayal.
- 5:13Speaker 2: What the investigation laid bare was a calculated, conspired act.
- 5:17Speaker 2: But Mood and Allah had planned to sexually assault.
- 5:19Speaker 1: Her, the five year old girl.
- 5:20Speaker 2: They targeted her in that tiny window of time when
- 5:24Speaker 2: she was walking back from the neighbor's apartment, alone in
- 5:26Speaker 2: the hallway for just a few seconds.
- 5:29Speaker 1: And Allah he used her trust.
- 5:32Speaker 2: He used her trust completely. He distracted her to her
- 5:35Speaker 2: he was a friend, so she walked with him, probably
- 5:38Speaker 2: still playing. Mamood appeared and between the two of them
- 5:41Speaker 2: they immobilized her.
- 5:43Speaker 1: They didn't take her down the main stairs.
- 5:45Speaker 2: No, they couldn't risk being seen. They dragged her up
- 5:48Speaker 2: the service staircase, the one only caretakers use, all the
- 5:51Speaker 2: way to an isolated room on the roof, up on.
- 5:54Speaker 1: The roof, while everyone else was searching below.
- 5:57Speaker 2: Yes, they tried to carry out the assault multiple times,
- 6:00Speaker 2: but they failed. And while this is happening, they started
- 6:03Speaker 2: to hear the commotion from downstairs, the mother screams, doors banging,
- 6:07Speaker 2: the search party growing louder.
- 6:09Speaker 1: So they panicked.
- 6:09Speaker 2: They panicked. They realized that if Xena was found alive,
- 6:12Speaker 2: she would immediately identify them. The fear of that scandal
- 6:16Speaker 2: of being exposed led to a cold lethal decision.
- 6:19Speaker 1: They had to silence her.
- 6:21Speaker 2: They grabbed her and threw her down the building central well.
- 6:23Speaker 1: The man war to make it look like an accident,
- 6:26Speaker 1: or at least to silence their only witness exactly, And.
- 6:29Speaker 2: The final piece of the puzzle, the thing that sealed it,
- 6:32Speaker 2: was a friend who actually went up to the roof
- 6:34Speaker 2: during the search.
- 6:35Speaker 1: He saw them.
- 6:36Speaker 2: He saw both of them standing there, visibly nervous, while
- 6:39Speaker 2: the whole building was in an uproar, and Allah told
- 6:42Speaker 2: them explicitly stay quiet about seeing them up there.
- 6:45Speaker 1: Unbelievable. The betrayal was just, it was total.
- 6:48Speaker 2: The facts were horrific enough, but the aftermath of the
- 6:51Speaker 2: crime brought this whole other level of intensity. Became a
- 6:55Speaker 2: national crisis, right.
- 6:56Speaker 1: This wasn't just a local tragedy anymore. It became what's
- 6:59Speaker 1: known in Egypt as a katiyatrie on a major public issue.
- 7:03Speaker 1: The community's reaction was massive.
- 7:06Speaker 2: So personal. People painted Zena's face on walls all over
- 7:09Speaker 2: the city. There were huge protests, the media mobilized, and
- 7:12Speaker 2: everyone was demanding one thing, justice, swift, uncompromising justice. The
- 7:17Speaker 2: primary call from the public from the media was for
- 7:20Speaker 2: the death penalty execution.
- 7:22Speaker 1: The crime was just seen as so heinous. Anything less
- 7:25Speaker 1: would feel like a betrayal exactly.
- 7:27Speaker 2: But this is where the legal system hit a brick wall.
- 7:30Speaker 2: There was a very specific, very controversial law in place.
- 7:34Speaker 2: What was that because a Law and Mahmoud were both seventeen,
- 7:38Speaker 2: they were miners, and Egyptian law at the time prohibited
- 7:41Speaker 2: the death penalty for miners, no matter how severe the crime.
- 7:44Speaker 1: So their age protected them.
- 7:46Speaker 2: It did, and this created a huge dilemma for the judiciary.
- 7:50Speaker 2: The presiding judge even made a public statement about it.
- 7:53Speaker 2: He said, and I'm paraphrasing, that if the law had
- 7:56Speaker 2: allowed it, he absolutely would have sentenced them to death
- 7:58Speaker 2: because of the sheer mass of their actions.
- 8:01Speaker 1: A clash between the letter of the law and what
- 8:03Speaker 1: the public saw as moral justice.
- 8:05Speaker 2: A huge one. So in the end the law won.
- 8:08Speaker 2: Both Allah and Mahmoud were sentenced to fifteen years of
- 8:11Speaker 2: hard labor oshkalshaka. It was the maximum sentence the court
- 8:15Speaker 2: could give a minor and I.
- 8:17Speaker 1: Can't imagine that went overwhel not at all.
- 8:19Speaker 2: It sparked even more mass protests. People were furious, demanding
- 8:23Speaker 2: that the law be amended immediately. They felt that a
- 8:26Speaker 2: crime this cruel forfeits any protection that age might offer, and.
- 8:30Speaker 1: Then there is that detail about Mahmoud's father.
- 8:32Speaker 2: I mean, that's something I've rarely ever seen. Mamoud's own
- 8:35Speaker 2: father publicly disowned his son. He went on record to
- 8:39Speaker 2: say how disgusted he was, and he actually asked the
- 8:41Speaker 2: judge to give his own son the death penalty.
- 8:44Speaker 1: Wow, a visceral rejection from his own family.
- 8:47Speaker 2: The case of Xena, the Angel of port Side, it's
- 8:49Speaker 2: just such a painful study, not just of a crime,
- 8:52Speaker 2: but what happens when community trust completely fails. Her image
- 8:56Speaker 2: is now a permanent symbol of lost innocence in Egypt.
- 9:00Speaker 1: When don't we unpack all of this? What does it
- 9:01Speaker 1: really mean for you the listener? This case forced an
- 9:04Speaker 1: entire country to look at itself, at the social boundaries
- 9:07Speaker 1: we just assume are there. But I think the real
- 9:10Speaker 1: lasting legacy is legislative, isn't it.
- 9:12Speaker 2: It is this forced a critical national debate that is
- 9:15Speaker 2: still going on. When does a crime committed by someone
- 9:18Speaker 2: who is technically a minor reach a level of malice
- 9:22Speaker 2: so absolute that it overrides the protections we give to
- 9:25Speaker 2: children in the justice system? How can any law balance rehabilitation,
- 9:29Speaker 2: which is central to juvenile justice, against the public's demand
- 9:32Speaker 2: for retribution when faced with such premeditated cruelty. It's a
- 9:36Speaker 2: fundamental question, really about what justice even means when innocence
- 9:39Speaker 2: is so completely destroyed