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Star Wars Maul Shadow Lord Ep. 3-4 Review CCLXXXIV · Star Wars Alliance

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Speaker 1: The Force will be with you always.
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Speaker 2: Hello and welcome back to another episode of Star Wars Alliance.
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Speaker 2: Of course I'm your host, Clay and with me like
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Speaker 2: always is Katie. Katie. How are you doing this week?
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Speaker 3: Hi, guys, I'm doing I'm doing okay. My house is
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Speaker 3: on the market. So the hints why we are late today,
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Speaker 3: uh so, but this should be the latest I think
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Speaker 3: that we end up going. But yeah, things are chaotic.
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Speaker 2: Totally understandable. You know, selling a house is not easy,
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Speaker 2: so totally understandable. Now, guys, we literally just discussed right
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Speaker 2: before we went live. There's not hardly any news out there.
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Speaker 2: There is something that we are going to discuss, which
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Speaker 2: is of course the Disney layoffs. And that's really oh
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Speaker 2: my goodness, I can't talk today. That's really it. As
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Speaker 2: far as news, I joked around apparently Han Solo over
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Speaker 2: at Disney World, and of course Galaxy's Edge is getting
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Speaker 2: a lot of backlash because his wig is not like
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Speaker 2: Harrison Ford's.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I saw a lot of people were like, well,
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Speaker 3: if you were gonna go completely different than you should
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Speaker 3: have just gone all the Einrich version instead. I don't know.
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Speaker 3: I've never paid I've been to Disney once, Like, I've
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Speaker 3: never paid that much attention to the way the characters
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Speaker 3: are dressed.
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Speaker 2: Well, like this is specifically supposed to be a character
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Speaker 2: that is supposed to be interacting with guests and things
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Speaker 2: like that. All. Yes, yes, but I think like, especially
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Speaker 2: with the more human characters specifically, they're trying to get
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Speaker 2: a little bit more to detail on that. Yeah, and
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Speaker 2: I think it's silly. I think it's silly. I was
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Speaker 2: waiting to see if anybody legitimately was going to make
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Speaker 2: a solo joke like, oh, if it's not Harrison Ford,
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Speaker 2: you know. But I'm so I'm glad, I'm did. I'm
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Speaker 2: glad somebody did. I'm really glad. But the layoffs there
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Speaker 2: is over I think some reports said over a thousand
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Speaker 2: employees were laid off. Some of like entire departments were
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Speaker 2: laid off, including the home entertainment. Now this is speculation
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Speaker 2: on my part, which is really scary, but I want
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Speaker 2: to know your opinion. Okay, if they laid off the
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Speaker 2: entire home entertainment department, does that mean that they are
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Speaker 2: getting ready to completely acts home entertainment releases?
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Speaker 3: I mean they've already basically acts them, Like I haven't
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Speaker 3: seen like the they tried. It was probably they tried
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Speaker 3: the Disney Plus shows to see like, oh we were
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Speaker 3: released on DVD, like let's see how people buy them,
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Speaker 3: and they're probably not going to do that again.
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Speaker 2: I would say, that's really sad. The reason why I
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Speaker 2: say is because I do believe just here recently, I
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Speaker 2: want to say, between twenty twenty four to now, there
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Speaker 2: has been a bigger resurgence of hey, I want to
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Speaker 2: get physical media, right. So, knowing that there is a
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Speaker 2: resurgent for physical media and then Disney up and just
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Speaker 2: completely destroys their internal home entertainment division, that's not cool.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think the main thing is, like people
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Speaker 3: are very used to paying Dagney. Old days, we would
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Speaker 3: pay thirty forty bucks maybe fifty bucks for twenty four
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Speaker 3: episode season of television on DVD. Now you're telling me
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Speaker 3: that they wanted to charge. I think Book a Boba
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Speaker 3: Fett was like sixty bucks, and I think the Mandalorian
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Speaker 3: seasons were close to seventy bucks for way less TV
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Speaker 3: and like almost no special features.
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Speaker 4: I was putting.
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Speaker 3: I put them on a list basically and was like, okay,
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Speaker 3: i'll see when prices drop. But I didn't even purchase
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Speaker 3: them because I was like, there's nothing here.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, that again disheartening, you know, I thought, and
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Speaker 2: this is a thought that has long since passed, because
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Speaker 2: of course we have been in the era of streaming
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Speaker 2: for quite some time. But like I as well as
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Speaker 2: I know many others, always thought that, like, oh well,
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Speaker 2: if you're going to release a movie on something like
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Speaker 2: a Netflix or a Disney Plus or an HBO Max,
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Speaker 2: there's an area in those platforms to put special features,
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Speaker 2: to put behind the scenes, to put all these other things,
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Speaker 2: and they do not do it most of the time.
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Speaker 2: You see those as marketing material. Now, as we have
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Speaker 2: seen with of course Mall Shadow Lord, we've seen a
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Speaker 2: lot of the behind the scenes talks with the animators,
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Speaker 2: with the voice actors and things like that as marketing material.
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Speaker 2: I just always thought that was a fumble for every
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Speaker 2: single streaming company, like, hey, you want more people to
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Speaker 2: subscribe specifically to your platform, you need to be putting
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Speaker 2: special features on every single product.
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Speaker 3: And I think it's like in the vein of I
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Speaker 3: feel like it's in the vein of like, oh well,
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Speaker 3: news companies are just going to pick it up and
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Speaker 3: tell what it tell us what was in the special
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Speaker 3: features anyways, So might as well just provide the whole
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Speaker 3: thing for free and get marketing out of it. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: like I get it to an extent, but like the
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Speaker 3: director's commentaries were something special. Yeah, it just sucks nowadays,
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Speaker 3: Like that's like they're becoming more and more rare, and
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Speaker 3: it just sucks because it's definitely a missed opportunity to
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Speaker 3: really connect with people and connect with fans, because there
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Speaker 3: are those people who are like I need to watch
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Speaker 3: every single director's commentary by James Cameron, like because he's
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Speaker 3: just that glorious of a filmmaker. Or Christopher Nolan would
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Speaker 3: be my pick for instance.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, it sucks, It really really does. And
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Speaker 2: so of course the home entertainment I've also I have
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Speaker 2: not confirmed this, but I also heard that there is
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Speaker 2: possible Marvel Comics staff that was also let go. So
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Speaker 2: I am interested to see how much the affects everything
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Speaker 2: else that we kind of deal with here at Star
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Speaker 2: Wars Alliance.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I know.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it says film studios, television, network, sports, park experiences,
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Speaker 3: comic books, franchising, finances, and legal So it looks like
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Speaker 3: it was across the board and the memo apparently said
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Speaker 3: this is not related to AI. Yeah, Disney says or
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Speaker 3: the rap excuse me indicated that the Marvel based cuts
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Speaker 3: could have affected it as much as eight percent of
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Speaker 3: their employees.
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Speaker 2: H okay.
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Speaker 3: There were not specific details on how these layoffs affect Lucasfilm.
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Speaker 3: The article doesn't indicate that Marvel, whose comics division produces
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Speaker 3: most of the major Star Wars comics nowadays, will be
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Speaker 3: particularly affected, both in terms of publishing comics and their
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Speaker 3: various multimedia adaptations. Yeah, exactly, and the visual developed team
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Speaker 3: in particular for Marvel Studios, basically the whole thing got
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Speaker 3: wiped ooh yeah. Basically a skeleton crew now exists in
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Speaker 3: a full time capacity, and basically they will go around
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Speaker 3: and rehire some of the employees that were laid off
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Speaker 3: on a case by case basis as independent contractors. We
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Speaker 3: love a company.
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Speaker 2: This is not how you do shit, Disney.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, And unfortunately these people will be basically forced to
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Speaker 3: go back because they don't.
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Speaker 2: Have a job. Because they have a job, and Disney
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Speaker 2: gets away with, hey, you're gonna get this much money
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Speaker 2: and no health insurance? All right, yeah, cool, you work
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Speaker 2: for me forever, But not really because I can, you know,
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Speaker 2: legally say that you had nothing to do with us
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Speaker 2: because you're just a contract yep. Oh capitalism, joy Joy.
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Speaker 3: So yeah, that was definitely a terrible thing to locker
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Speaker 3: on and see this morning. It's just, yeah, it I
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Speaker 3: don't have any good things to say, and I don't
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Speaker 3: really have any motivating things to say to make myself
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Speaker 3: feel better.
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Speaker 4: It's just.
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Speaker 2: I want to say, hopefully these people are able to
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Speaker 2: get back up on their feet. We've seen I mean,
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Speaker 2: you know, I just told you I I downloaded it
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Speaker 2: just for the fact that I was like, Okay, in
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Speaker 2: case Paramount wants to be a complete, you know, a
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Speaker 2: hole and not show this, I'm gonna grab it. Now.
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Speaker 2: I haven't watched it, that's the thing.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't grab it, so I took.
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Speaker 2: The Avatar movie. And but what I'm where I'm connecting
12:30
Speaker 2: this is there's a lot of things happening at a
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Speaker 2: lot of different companies, and on the spot of Paramount,
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Speaker 2: I go, haha, because you're the jerks that decided not
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Speaker 2: to put this out in theaters, and that's why I
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Speaker 2: got leaked. Now, I respect everybody who made the movie
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Speaker 2: because I mean, unfortunately, of course the head of right
13:04
Speaker 2: correct me if I'm wrong, because you're another aang another
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Speaker 2: Avatar person like me. The two that were originally involved
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Speaker 2: in creation of the Avatar are no longer working on
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Speaker 2: or didn't have anything to do with this film.
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Speaker 3: I believe they had things to do with this film.
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Speaker 3: They did not have anything to do with the live
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Speaker 3: action adaptation.
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Speaker 2: Ah okay, okay, okay. So because of that.
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Speaker 3: Sorry, guys, I had to leave my door open now
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Speaker 3: with my new Deak position because otherwise the stream yard
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Speaker 3: goes like freight take.
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Speaker 2: So it's all good. It's all good. But out of
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Speaker 2: respect of the people who worked on the film, I
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Speaker 2: have not watched it yet, but like I said, I
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Speaker 2: was like, hey, I'm gonna download it just in case,
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Speaker 2: and I'm just gonna keep it because again I also
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Speaker 2: do not have permot us, So as long as I
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Speaker 2: wait until it officially releases, then I can watch it.
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Speaker 2: But in the instance of what's going on at Disney,
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Speaker 2: like this is again another shame on you for the company,
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Speaker 2: but like it's even more so because they did this
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Speaker 2: on purpose and then actively said, oh, don't worry, guys,
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Speaker 2: we are going to still give you guys work. We
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Speaker 2: are just not going to give you benefits. Yeah, and
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Speaker 2: I feel like that's a lot worse. I hope these
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Speaker 2: guys get back up on their feet and you know,
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Speaker 2: there's you know, other places to go to. Like I
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Speaker 2: feel like in this resurgence of of course the physical media,
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Speaker 2: there's also a resurgence of you know, in work and
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Speaker 2: doing a whole bunch of other stuff. And so if
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Speaker 2: you can't work with the biggest company, hey, maybe this
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Speaker 2: is an opportunity to do something yourself or doing something
15:10
Speaker 2: small that is a little bit more meaningful. And so
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Speaker 2: I give that encouraging word to the people who may
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Speaker 2: have been affected. So yeah, but I think that is
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Speaker 2: it for all of the news.
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Speaker 3: Yes, we're going to talk about box office productions closer
15:34
Speaker 3: to Mandolin Grogu coming out.
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Speaker 2: Gosh, it's like like a month.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's distant tracking right now. So I figure, dude,
15:47
Speaker 3: you're kicking you're killing me.
15:49
Speaker 4: Get off your dummies.
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Speaker 3: I apologize, guys. My dogs are dumb. They are place.
16:02
Speaker 2: I will say this. I will say this because your
16:05
Speaker 2: dogs are smaller. That is not going to be nearly
16:10
Speaker 2: as like abrasive towards anybody who was listening via podcast
16:18
Speaker 2: compared to if it was my big dog. Yeah, he
16:22
Speaker 2: literally barks at literally anything that is outside, so which
16:29
Speaker 2: is also why he's not allowed in this room when
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Speaker 2: I'm recording.
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Speaker 3: I could have my desk back in the middle and
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Speaker 3: I could shut my door. That would be great, but.
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Speaker 4: Staging.
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Speaker 3: I do want to sell my house, guys, I promise,
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Speaker 3: really fed up with it already.
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Speaker 2: But yes, we will talk about predictions later. We will.
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Speaker 2: We will show these numbers when we talk about that
16:57
Speaker 2: to see how it's kind of changed, if anything has
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Speaker 2: changed at all, I will say this hint. It's that
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Speaker 2: looking great. Uh, it was technically lower than what we predicted,
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Speaker 2: but we'll see how it goes. Again, we got a
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Speaker 2: whole month, so we want to talk about mal Oh.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, let's talk about Mare.
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Speaker 2: All right, This, of course, is the week of episodes
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Speaker 2: three and four titled Whispers in the Unknown and Pride
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Speaker 2: and Vengeance. So Whispers in the Unknown again.
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Speaker 3: Let me grab the baby monitor fast because Matt.
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Speaker 2: Had done no, you're good, you're good. When we talked
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Speaker 2: about episodes one and two, we talked about them together.
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Speaker 2: I feel like this is the same instance. We can
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Speaker 2: talk about both because again, these should be longer than
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Speaker 2: thirty minutes. People, I feel like each one of them.
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Speaker 2: That's the only downside. We're We're always saying like, hey,
18:15
Speaker 2: we can have more content, right, we can have more
18:17
Speaker 2: content rather than having eight episode seasons. But like if
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Speaker 2: we were to combine every single episode, this would or
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Speaker 2: like two episodes every single week, we would only have
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Speaker 2: a four episode season, so like five episodes, five episodes. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: you're right, you're right, you're right. But talking about these episodes,
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Speaker 2: how did you feel about the Like, we we don't
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Speaker 2: move the needle at all. Realistically in episodes three and four,
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Speaker 2: there is there's no new information. The only new development
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Speaker 2: that happens in these two episodes.
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Speaker 3: Is lost.
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Speaker 2: Yes, is lost in and at the very end of
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Speaker 2: the episode four spoilers the Empire shows up. Yeap, that
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Speaker 2: is really it.
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Speaker 4: That's what.
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Speaker 3: I relate to what Adrian is saying in like, so far,
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Speaker 3: the only benefits that I'm seeing to this new show
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Speaker 3: is the animation style. I'm always gonna love this animation
19:43
Speaker 3: style and the artistic developments here with like the brushstroke
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Speaker 3: animation has been super superb. The music and the style
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Speaker 3: of the show. I love that we're getting a thriller.
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Speaker 3: I do think you need more detail with a thriller,
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Speaker 3: and apparently they were not willing to expand the time
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Speaker 3: slot with it. Antelli's if you growl again, you're gonna
20:11
Speaker 3: get smacked.
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Speaker 2: So I'm just going to actually share Adrian's words. I
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Speaker 2: did share the link with him, so he might be
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Speaker 2: showing up. He might not. That is totally fine. I
20:25
Speaker 2: actually kind of just sprung it onto him. I didn't
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Speaker 2: even get to see if he responded, but his post
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Speaker 2: said this Maul has to be the most predictable character
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Speaker 2: in the franchise at this point halfway through the Shadow Lord,
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Speaker 2: and they just gave us more of the same, same motives,
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Speaker 2: same rhetoric, same tactics. How many apprentices are we gonna
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Speaker 2: watch him tempt to the dark side because he can't
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Speaker 2: get his revenge on his own. But hey, here is
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Speaker 2: another cool hallway scene cutting down non force users.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: I don't get wrong. I like the fight scene. I
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Speaker 3: like the hallway scenes. They look cool, But I agree.
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Speaker 2: When it comes to substance. When it comes to the
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Speaker 2: actual story, I don't like having to say, oh, hey,
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Speaker 2: three and four, nothing really happened. I don't like saying
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Speaker 2: that there.
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Speaker 4: Should be something that ees.
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Speaker 2: Yes, I feel like there needs to be something that
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Speaker 2: holds this story together. Now you can say, oh, well,
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Speaker 2: the new development in these episodes is Lawson is an
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Speaker 2: absence absentee father. Okay, like that might be used in
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Speaker 2: future episodes, but like we already know he's dedicated to
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Speaker 2: his job. So again you're you're just reiterating something in
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Speaker 2: a different way from episodes one and two. Now on
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Speaker 2: episodes three and four. You know, so that is a
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Speaker 2: problem there. You look at Mal himself. Mal is going
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Speaker 2: after these drug lords, these slumlords, these syndicates, same thing
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Speaker 2: over and over over again. And I said last week, Hey,
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Speaker 2: if it's just him doing this, I think that's okay,
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Speaker 2: But we need more story. Right now, there isn't much
22:46
Speaker 2: more story because we already know he's already going to
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Speaker 2: attempt to persuade Devin to help him correct.
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Speaker 3: Yes, And I again go back to when we were
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Speaker 3: talking about like what we think could happen here, I go,
23:07
Speaker 3: I'm constantly going back to like one of the things
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Speaker 3: I was like, oh, we could go season two with Kira,
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Speaker 3: for instance, I'm still in the vein of I would
23:17
Speaker 3: have much rather seen Kira as the Apprentice and the
23:22
Speaker 3: show have taken place six or three bby versus eighteen
23:29
Speaker 3: bby because it's just we do feel like we're repeating
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Speaker 3: the same things. And I do get that. I feel
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Speaker 3: I feel like Filoni really wants to give Maul like
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Speaker 3: a forced gift of prophecy in like some way shape
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Speaker 3: or form, like a dark side forced prophecy gift because
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Speaker 3: he's got like all these visions.
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Speaker 4: I don't think he's hitting it no, like and.
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Speaker 2: Again that that does actually make sense with you know,
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Speaker 2: connecting the dots to like rebels and stuff. I can
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Speaker 2: I can see going I can see him going that route.
24:20
Speaker 2: But this whole thing with Devon, you know I did.
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Speaker 2: It was a nice It was a nice little cherry
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Speaker 2: on top that she never gave him his name. But
24:30
Speaker 2: then at the very end of their confrontation, he's like,
24:33
Speaker 2: I'll need that back, Devon. And it makes you question
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Speaker 2: did he go ahead and do his research, was it
24:44
Speaker 2: his vision or did he scare her enough to get
24:51
Speaker 2: the name from her thoughts? Yeah, during that endeavor, and
24:58
Speaker 2: it could be any of the above. That's the thing.
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Speaker 2: Not knowing is fun. But it was just a little
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Speaker 2: cherry on top that like that first confrontation was, oh,
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Speaker 2: you know, you have the luxury of knowing my name,
25:14
Speaker 2: but I don't know yours. And he was playing coy
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Speaker 2: and doing all these things. He was being sly. I
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Speaker 2: think that's a part of this newer version of Maul
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Speaker 2: that we haven't really gotten to see. We've seen him
25:29
Speaker 2: be a little bit manipulative with of course, uh oh
25:35
Speaker 2: i'm i'm, I'm I'm Ezra. Yeah, but this is a
25:42
Speaker 2: lot more calm when he was with Ezra. He's kind
25:47
Speaker 2: of like the crazy old man, you know, he's a
25:52
Speaker 2: little bit more He's he's more calm, more collected. He's
25:55
Speaker 2: methodical because he's thought this stuff through. We know that
25:59
Speaker 2: because there is a sequence of plans that are, you know,
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Speaker 2: seemingly being activated throughout these four episodes. So I do
26:14
Speaker 2: like seeing this new version of mon I say new
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Speaker 2: as in quotations, but there is no substance. The most
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Speaker 2: intriguing thing out of the two episodes is quite possibly
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Speaker 2: two Boots and his desire to want to fulfill his
26:41
Speaker 2: programming and say, hey, protocol says we call the empire. Hey,
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Speaker 2: this is kind of batshit crazy. We should call the empire. Hey,
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Speaker 2: you guys are doing the right thing. So I'll do
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Speaker 2: the right thing too. I'll call the Empire, call the
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Speaker 2: Empire like he does. He he mentions it like three
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Speaker 2: or four times in this of these two episodes.
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Speaker 4: And I was like, laws In what are you doing?
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Speaker 3: When he turns him off at the comm station and
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Speaker 3: he's like, y'all are y'all are going to be out
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Speaker 3: of your depth? Like I've got to call the Empire
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Speaker 3: right now that final time and he leaves him at
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Speaker 3: the communication booth. Oh no, no, somebody said turn him.
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Speaker 2: On exactly would I would have taken him with me
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Speaker 2: and I would have put him in the trunk of
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Speaker 2: the vehicle. Yeah, Like, I'm sorry. Now, it's interesting to
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Speaker 2: learn because two Boots may have struck a nerve by
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Speaker 2: the way Two Boots was talking about the Empire. He's like, okay,
27:47
Speaker 2: so is this something of like you were wanting to
27:52
Speaker 2: do on a personal level or is it because your
27:56
Speaker 2: wife works for the Empire? And I'm like, dude, like
28:01
Speaker 2: that was hysterical. Why hit so low to the belt,
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Speaker 2: you know? But again Lawson doesn't even like, he doesn't baty.
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Speaker 2: He just says, if the Empire comes over here, they'll
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Speaker 2: take over yep, and that'll be the end of it.
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Speaker 2: I like Lawson. I think Lawson is clearly in over
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Speaker 2: his head, and I feel like there's something missing with Lawson.
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Speaker 2: I do too, because I feel like this, like ooh,
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Speaker 2: good cop who is in over his head is such
28:55
Speaker 2: a simplified, stereotypical storyline, and I'm like.
29:04
Speaker 4: A father, like we've been here, done this.
29:08
Speaker 2: Yes, you're hitting all the boxes for literally like almost
29:13
Speaker 2: every single cop show or cop movie yep. And it's like, Okay,
29:19
Speaker 2: what are we missing? There needs to be something here
29:23
Speaker 2: that helps me get attached to this character. Yes, he
29:27
Speaker 2: has a good heart in a galaxy that is very dark.
29:32
Speaker 3: I think we have but we have talked about how
29:37
Speaker 3: we are tired of the father story. Is this thing?
29:42
Speaker 3: We need something new? And especially when you're reusing I
29:48
Speaker 3: say reusing, you're reusing a character here mal who we
29:53
Speaker 3: know at the beginning, in the end, and most of
29:56
Speaker 3: the middle we have learned you can fill in store reason,
30:00
Speaker 3: make them great and still do good things. I have hope,
30:05
Speaker 3: but I don't have a lot of faith based on
30:09
Speaker 3: what we've seen so far. No.
30:11
Speaker 2: I agree, I I one hundred percent agree the the
30:18
Speaker 2: fact that we see loss in connecting the dots, but
30:24
Speaker 2: not really like. Here's another thing, is like Master Doci
30:31
Speaker 2: Docy literally has Jedi written all over his face and
30:40
Speaker 2: here comes Lost and in the in the midst of
30:42
Speaker 2: you know, the battle and everything else. Why didn't you
30:45
Speaker 2: tell me you guys were Jedi. It's just like, dude, really.
30:50
Speaker 3: Really really, I thought you were smart.
30:54
Speaker 2: Like it's frustrating, it really is, And I think that
30:59
Speaker 2: is what going to be. Like the downfall of me
31:05
Speaker 2: not loving Losson as a character is he is such
31:12
Speaker 2: a stereotypical cop for this show, for this universe. There's
31:21
Speaker 2: nothing new to the character type.
31:26
Speaker 3: Yeah.
31:27
Speaker 2: That has me going, hey, I want this character to win. Yes,
31:32
Speaker 2: I want him to win because mal is the antagonist, right,
31:38
Speaker 2: you all want that. Everybody wants that, but to actually
31:44
Speaker 2: like have because don't get me wrong, you look at
31:50
Speaker 2: every character in Star Wars. Star Wars is such a
31:55
Speaker 2: large phenomenon within our life that you could literally ask
32:01
Speaker 2: a thousand people and half of them would name somebody
32:08
Speaker 2: that you've probably never heard of in Star Wars as
32:11
Speaker 2: their favorite character. Lawson can be somebody's favorite character. But
32:16
Speaker 2: I can tell you right now, Lawson cannot be my
32:19
Speaker 2: favorite character because there's nothing new to him to be
32:28
Speaker 2: a favorite character for me. And that kind of hurts
32:33
Speaker 2: because he's supposed to be a major player in this
32:36
Speaker 2: new show, you know, and so that kind of hurts that,
32:41
Speaker 2: that kind of hurts his like well it let me
32:49
Speaker 2: rephrase it. It hurts the show, not necessarily the character
32:56
Speaker 2: and not necessarily the actor. It hurts the show.
33:01
Speaker 3: It does because you want, like we've already been green
33:05
Speaker 3: lit for season two here, so you know there's season
33:08
Speaker 3: two coming. They could choose to go off and do
33:13
Speaker 3: like we talked about, Oh we're gonna do three years
33:15
Speaker 3: from now, and it's not gonna be on Janics Lawson
33:18
Speaker 3: could completely disappear from the show in season two. But
33:23
Speaker 3: you still want to make it so you relate to
33:26
Speaker 3: the protagonist that's going on, like you're trying to convert
33:31
Speaker 3: us and show us the antagonist's point of view. But
33:37
Speaker 3: that doesn't really that's not gonna work for everybody, And
33:40
Speaker 3: if you want to continue the show, you do have
33:44
Speaker 3: to have a good protagonist at play.
33:47
Speaker 2: Mm hm no I I one h agree.
33:57
Speaker 4: It's a beautiful show.
33:59
Speaker 3: It looks gorgeous. I still love all the voice actors.
34:05
Speaker 3: Vanessa Marshall is killing its road cast. Oh gosh, I
34:10
Speaker 3: can't remember her name, Devin's actress. Mm hmm, I love her.
34:20
Speaker 3: She's doing a great job. Like the lightsaber fight between
34:24
Speaker 3: her and Ma super good, super good. I loved it.
34:32
Speaker 4: Gideon Adlon.
34:36
Speaker 3: That is her name, obviously President all State amazing. So
34:48
Speaker 3: like the voice cast here, it's fantastic without a doubt.
34:55
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
35:00
Speaker 3: I just need more substance. Yea, yeah, the music also great.
35:06
Speaker 2: I agree, and like I don't want people to have
35:10
Speaker 2: to say, like, oh, but there's also a comic book
35:12
Speaker 2: that you can get that substance in.
35:14
Speaker 4: It's like, uh huh, I'm.
35:16
Speaker 2: Okay with chasing a story. Like we are book nerds.
35:20
Speaker 2: We read all the time. We are eventually going to
35:23
Speaker 2: read the mall comic. But you are advertising this and
35:29
Speaker 2: you're not advertising the comic. Yep this is your main thing.
35:36
Speaker 2: This is what you want people to be drawn to,
35:40
Speaker 2: and there's nothing there that's that's my thing. So we
35:47
Speaker 2: have six episodes to go, six episodes, and is all
36:01
Speaker 2: the episodes are going to be out by the time
36:03
Speaker 2: Mando releases correct?
36:05
Speaker 3: Yes? Correct?
36:06
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, so six episodes left, which means there's gonna
36:11
Speaker 2: be three more weeks. I hope next week there's a
36:21
Speaker 2: bit more lead up, there's I hope there is again
36:25
Speaker 2: more substance, more story. I was just talking to a
36:29
Speaker 2: co worker today about like what his predictions are, you know.
36:35
Speaker 2: He he also brought up Crimson Dawn and like, oh,
36:41
Speaker 2: you know this will eventually lead up to that. We
36:44
Speaker 2: know that it can't be immediately after because of the timeline.
36:48
Speaker 2: There would need to be a time jump. He also
36:52
Speaker 2: puts the prediction out that because the Empire is now involved,
36:57
Speaker 2: that Mal is going to cut down all of the
37:02
Speaker 2: inquisitors and that we're gonna have a Vader versus Mall fight.
37:07
Speaker 2: I don't believe that will happen. Correct me if I'm wrong.
37:14
Speaker 2: There has never been a confrontation between Mal and Vader.
37:22
Speaker 4: I don't think so.
37:23
Speaker 2: No, I don't think. Here's the thing. If there is
37:29
Speaker 2: a confrontation between Mal and Vader, Filoni has no faith
37:33
Speaker 2: in his own product. Correct I think that if Filone
37:41
Speaker 2: made the decision, hey, we are going to put Darth
37:46
Speaker 2: Vader into this season, and that is what cowers Mall
37:54
Speaker 2: into hiding and all of that stuff, I will flip
37:59
Speaker 2: a table, you.
38:01
Speaker 3: Have no faith, and like you said, the next episode
38:05
Speaker 3: is called Inquisition, so I imagine we're getting Brock next
38:10
Speaker 3: episode and potentially the Crow inquisitor dude. We know the
38:17
Speaker 3: Crow dude makes it out because Ahsoka kills him. Yes,
38:21
Speaker 3: Mack could very easily die in this series, and that's
38:27
Speaker 3: why he's uh able to be kept alive.
38:33
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
38:35
Speaker 3: Uh I say kept alive. His ghost can like resurrect
38:39
Speaker 3: in Ahsoka because a uh Daphamarion killed him for instance.
38:46
Speaker 3: I don't know, kind of making stuff up. Yeah, but uh,
38:50
Speaker 3: chapter five is called Inquisition. Chapter six is called Knight
38:53
Speaker 3: of the Hunted. So definitely I'm thinking we're getting inquisitors
38:59
Speaker 3: next episode.
39:00
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so as Fall, But I think that's it.
39:07
Speaker 2: This was a short episode. There's nothing again, no substance,
39:10
Speaker 2: no story, nothing to really kind of deep dive into. Unfortunately,
39:14
Speaker 2: but again it's like I think it is okay for
39:20
Speaker 2: things to be okay. We've said this before on the podcast.
39:24
Speaker 2: I think that this is right below Okay, so I
39:28
Speaker 2: need the episodes to pick up.
39:32
Speaker 4: I'm definitely right now.
39:35
Speaker 3: This is below Bubbleffett for me right now, like Bobaffett
39:40
Speaker 3: gave me a storyline, it gave me substance. Yeah, it
39:44
Speaker 3: did something new.
39:47
Speaker 2: That's true. Currently there's not really there. There's there's oh
39:53
Speaker 2: mall oh lightsabers, and that's basically it so far. So yep, man,
40:01
Speaker 2: that's rough. But we'll have to see how the next
40:05
Speaker 2: three weeks are. But of course you guys can always
40:09
Speaker 2: find me at fanboy Clay on threads and Instagram. That's
40:14
Speaker 2: where I'm mostly gonna be at. We have decided officially
40:21
Speaker 2: over at Ranger Alliance we are going to do every
40:23
Speaker 2: other week for our show. It helps both Jake and
40:29
Speaker 2: I with planning content, and we have come to learn
40:35
Speaker 2: that the new show that we are reviewing there's not
40:39
Speaker 2: a whole lot of Again the substance. Same thing with
40:44
Speaker 2: here is there's like, out of a thirty minute episode,
40:49
Speaker 2: half of it is really really good, full of story,
40:51
Speaker 2: and the other half is kind of like, there's nothing
40:53
Speaker 2: really there, And so we have to talk about two
40:56
Speaker 2: episodes to really get a full episode of content when
41:01
Speaker 2: it comes to part So we're going to have Ranger
41:05
Speaker 2: Alliance every two weeks. Now, you guys should be getting
41:10
Speaker 2: a new episode this week. I totally forgot to edit
41:16
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41:21
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41:25
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41:29
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41:33
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41:34
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41:35
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41:45
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41:52
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41:54
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41:58
Speaker 2: Life he's getting ahead of us, guys. We yeah, I
42:01
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42:04
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42:08
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42:13
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42:17
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42:21
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42:23
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42:29
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42:38
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