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- 0:09Speaker 1: Hey, what's going on, everybody?
- 0:11Speaker 2: Welcome into another episode of DiCecco Daily. It's Andrew DiCecco,
- 0:15Speaker 2: Eagles beat reporter for InsideTheBirds.com. And we do have a
- 0:19Speaker 2: little bit of injury news for the Eagles. There were
- 0:21Speaker 2: a number of players who got hurt in the 24-20 loss,
- 0:25Speaker 2: including notables like Saquon Barkley and Quinion Mitchell, Jonathan Grenard.
- 0:31Speaker 2: But officially, running back Tank Bigsby, he suffered an injury
- 0:36Speaker 2: late in the game that did not look good. Well,
- 0:39Speaker 2: he sustained a core muscle injury Sunday against the Rams
- 0:42Speaker 2: that will require surgery and land him on injured reserve.
- 0:48Speaker 2: And that's a tough blow for an Eagles team that
- 0:51Speaker 2: already has Saquon Barkley dealing with a hamstring injury. And
- 0:56Speaker 2: when Nick Sirianni spoke on Monday, he said, we'll see
- 0:59Speaker 2: in terms of whether or not he'll be available when the.
- 1:02Speaker 1: Eagles go to London tomorrow.
- 1:04Speaker 2: So that could leave the Eagles in a pretty dire
- 1:08Speaker 2: spot at the running back position. And if Saquon can't
- 1:11Speaker 2: make it back in time for Sunday, and remember, hamstring
- 1:16Speaker 2: injuries tend to be a little bit fickle. You don't
- 1:18Speaker 2: want to fool around with the soft tissue injuries. Sometimes
- 1:21Speaker 2: they tend to linger, as evidenced by Devontae Smith, most notably.
- 1:27Speaker 2: Then you had Makai Lemon, who had it in the spring,
- 1:29Speaker 2: and then it lingered into training camp. Those are two
- 1:32Speaker 2: recent examples. But taking all that into account, that would
- 1:37Speaker 2: put Will Shipley as the Eagles' top running back going
- 1:41Speaker 2: into that game with the Jacksonville Jaguars. Now, we'll wait
- 1:46Speaker 2: and see what the injury report looks like this week
- 1:51Speaker 2: in practice.
- 1:51Speaker 1: And all that.
- 1:53Speaker 2: There's different levels to hamstring injuries, and so you can
- 1:56Speaker 2: never definitively say that Saquon won't be available.
- 2:00Speaker 1: You never know. But let's just.
- 2:03Speaker 2: let's just assume that that's something that does take a
- 2:08Speaker 2: little bit of time to heal. Well, that would put
- 2:10Speaker 2: Will Shipley into the top running back spot. And Will
- 2:13Speaker 2: is someone who has been the number three running back
- 2:16Speaker 2: for the Eagles since he was drafted in 2024. I
- 2:22Speaker 2: think he brings some quality traits to the forefront, including
- 2:26Speaker 2: pass protection, pass catching upside. Now, Is he as explosive
- 2:32Speaker 2: of a runner as Saquon and Tank? No, I wouldn't
- 2:36Speaker 2: say that, but he does have juice, and I know
- 2:40Speaker 2: that it's been tough sledding for him when he's gotten
- 2:42Speaker 2: his opportunities this year in the running game, but I
- 2:44Speaker 2: would say that that applies to all three of the
- 2:48Speaker 2: running backs, Saquon and Tank included, though Tank had a
- 2:52Speaker 2: nice run on Sunday against the Rams, but you could
- 2:55Speaker 2: tell when he got hurt, And he was in the
- 2:59Speaker 2: medical tent for an awfully long amount of time that
- 3:02Speaker 2: it wasn't good. And, you know, he left the field
- 3:06Speaker 2: with a few minutes left in the game. That's tough. And,
- 3:10Speaker 2: you know, it's a tough blow for the Eagles. But
- 3:12Speaker 2: you got to think about the player here and Tank.
- 3:16Speaker 2: had an opportunity to play against his former team in
- 3:18Speaker 2: the Jaguars this weekend. And he's such a fun player
- 3:23Speaker 2: to watch and a really good dude. So any injury
- 3:27Speaker 2: news is unfortunate. That's the worst part of sports. And
- 3:33Speaker 2: the Eagles are going to be operating on a timeline
- 3:35Speaker 2: that won't include Tank Bigsby in the interim here.
- 3:39Speaker 1: And according to ESPN.
- 3:43Speaker 2: And NFL Networks in Rappaport, That injury, he's expected, or
- 3:51Speaker 2: there's hopes, that he'll be back in six weeks or shorter.
- 3:56Speaker 2: So anyway, that leaves the Eagles really thin at the
- 3:58Speaker 2: running back position. Will doesn't have a ton of experience,
- 4:01Speaker 2: doesn't have a ton of carries. He has been incorporated
- 4:04Speaker 2: into the offense, been a situational player, a third down player.
- 4:09Speaker 1: Running back. He seems to be their preference there.
- 4:11Speaker 2: I think that he is the Eagles' best pass protection,
- 4:14Speaker 2: or I guess best Eagles running back when it comes
- 4:18Speaker 2: to pass protection. He's also their best receiver, but Make
- 4:23Speaker 2: no mistake about it. You're not a better football.
- 4:26Speaker 1: Team when you're down those players.
- 4:28Speaker 2: And I think that Will does have more to offer
- 4:30Speaker 2: than what he's really shown. And he's going to get
- 4:32Speaker 2: his opportunity, whether or not Saquon plays or not. You
- 4:36Speaker 2: saw how involved Tank has been over the first few
- 4:39Speaker 2: weeks and really four weeks.
- 4:41Speaker 1: So he's going to have a larger role in some capacity.
- 4:45Speaker 1: And so I.
- 4:48Speaker 2: Just I get a sense that there might be a
- 4:50Speaker 2: little angst when it comes to Will, whenever he gets
- 4:54Speaker 2: his opportunities, I'm not exactly sure why. He might not
- 4:59Speaker 2: be a home run hitter, but he's shifty. He's highly intelligent.
- 5:03Speaker 2: Saquon Barkley last summer called him the smartest back in
- 5:05Speaker 2: the room, and it's really evident when you watch him
- 5:09Speaker 2: out there. He brings a lot of intensity, brings a
- 5:15Speaker 2: lot of knowledge and high-level football intelligence, and it's going
- 5:19Speaker 2: to be up to the offensive line to block it up.
- 5:22Speaker 2: a little bit better than they have because regardless of
- 5:24Speaker 2: who's been back there, they haven't been able to capitalize
- 5:28Speaker 2: with the Eagles running backs. And I went into this
- 5:30Speaker 2: season really bullish on the Eagles running back room in general.
- 5:34Speaker 2: Aside from Saquon Barkley, I have been very high on
- 5:38Speaker 2: Tank Bigsby. He had a good training camp, but I
- 5:40Speaker 2: really liked the player coming out of Auburn. He is
- 5:43Speaker 2: a little unorthodox in his approach, but he just brings
- 5:47Speaker 2: so much energy when he gets the ball and you,
- 5:50Speaker 2: have a level, sort of an element of unpredictability whenever
- 5:54Speaker 2: he gets it, but he has home run hitting ability.
- 5:57Speaker 2: And so to not have that is certainly a big
- 5:59Speaker 2: blow to the offense.
- 6:01Speaker 1: But behind Will, there's not a lot. I mean, well,
- 6:07Speaker 1: there's no.
- 6:07Speaker 2: One on the active roster, but they do have three
- 6:10Speaker 2: running backs on the practice squad. They have Jadon Blue,
- 6:14Speaker 2: they have Damian Pierce, and they also have Carson Steele.
- 6:18Speaker 2: Going back to the preseason, Carson Steele, someone who caught
- 6:21Speaker 2: the football pretty well, didn't rep a ton in training camp,
- 6:25Speaker 2: but when he did, he ran really hard. I like
- 6:29Speaker 2: his build, and he's more of a downhill runner. He's
- 6:31Speaker 2: going to make defenders pay. He did have some opportunities
- 6:36Speaker 2: with the Kansas City Chiefs in 2024, where he made
- 6:38Speaker 2: the team as an undrafted free agent, and he carried
- 6:42Speaker 2: the ball a handful.
- 6:43Speaker 1: Amount of times, and He's an option.
- 6:46Speaker 2: Jaden Blue was a draft pick of the Cowboys just
- 6:49Speaker 2: last year. Smaller, but he's very quick. I think he's
- 6:53Speaker 2: more of a shiftier type of player that could be
- 6:56Speaker 2: more utilized as a specialist, maybe situationally. Get him in
- 7:01Speaker 2: space a little bit. He can catch the football. But
- 7:04Speaker 2: the player that I'm most intrigued with of the players
- 7:06Speaker 2: on the practice squad is Damian Pierce.
- 7:10Speaker 1: And so.
- 7:11Speaker 2: Damian Pierce is someone who was a draft pick of
- 7:14Speaker 2: the Houston Texans a number of years ago. At one
- 7:17Speaker 2: point in time, it looked like Damian Pierce was one
- 7:19Speaker 2: of the better young running backs in football. He ran
- 7:21Speaker 2: just shy of 1,000 yards as a rookie. Gave the
- 7:24Speaker 2: Eagles some trouble in the 2022 matchup, I believe. He's
- 7:28Speaker 2: sort of a bigger-bodied running back. He got hurt in
- 7:31Speaker 2: training camp. He could have made things interesting potentially, maybe
- 7:34Speaker 2: forced an Eagles hand to keep four because he also
- 7:36Speaker 2: doubles as a kick returner. But I think that injuries
- 7:40Speaker 2: have plagued him a little bit and maybe some ball
- 7:42Speaker 2: security issues. And I think if you're taking all that
- 7:47Speaker 2: into account, they may need to bring two running backs
- 7:51Speaker 2: into the fold this week just to be able to
- 7:53Speaker 2: fill out the depth chart. And so to me, it
- 7:57Speaker 2: seems like Damian Pierce would be a logical choice for
- 8:00Speaker 2: one of them.
- 8:00Speaker 1: And then it could depend on what you value personally.
- 8:04Speaker 2: Between Jadon Blue and Carson Steele, who can help you
- 8:08Speaker 2: on special teams. In theory, Carson Steele should be a
- 8:12Speaker 2: player that could step in there and run down the
- 8:15Speaker 2: field and make some big plays and kick coverage and
- 8:18Speaker 2: maybe even in punk coverage as well.
- 8:21Speaker 1: He can block a little bit. He brings some physicality there.
- 8:25Speaker 2: And I should also mention that Carson Steele and Damian
- 8:30Speaker 2: Pierce were with the Eagles last For the entirety of
- 8:32Speaker 2: the offseason. So there's something to be said for that.
- 8:35Speaker 2: They have more familiarity with the playbook. And they both.
- 8:39Speaker 1: Both bring somewhat of a different skill set. To the table.
- 8:42Speaker 1: But Jadon Blue is probably the most. Unique of those three.
- 8:47Speaker 1: Because of his. I guess his stature. His build. The athleticism.
- 8:55Speaker 1: And the lightning quickness. That he brings. Although I don't
- 8:59Speaker 1: view him as a.
- 8:59Speaker 2: As a. a running back who can handle volume per se,
- 9:04Speaker 2: but I do think he could be a really effective
- 9:06Speaker 2: change up, give you some good speed. He does have
- 9:09Speaker 2: home run hitting long speed there. He can catch the football,
- 9:13Speaker 2: but it all depends on what the Eagles are looking for.
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- 13:15Speaker 2: But I think the one player who does make sense,
- 13:17Speaker 2: who does have a lot of NFL experience, is Damian Pierce.
- 13:21Speaker 2: And so you only have two elevations on the practice squad.
- 13:25Speaker 2: If Zach Ertz is not signed to the 53, he
- 13:28Speaker 2: still gets one more elevation.
- 13:30Speaker 1: He would be one of them. One of these players
- 13:32Speaker 1: is going to have to be signed to the 53
- 13:34Speaker 1: this week. So you might see.
- 13:35Speaker 2: Some maneuvering as they have to try to scramble to
- 13:40Speaker 2: atone for some of these injuries in some cases. But
- 13:42Speaker 2: the Eagles running back room, is going to have a
- 13:45Speaker 2: little bit of a different look in the short term.
- 13:48Speaker 2: But as Rappaport added to his report, the hope is
- 13:53Speaker 2: that Tank gets back around six weeks. So we'll just
- 13:56Speaker 2: have to wait and see on that. It probably hasn't
- 13:58Speaker 2: gone the way that Tank wanted it. I know he
- 14:01Speaker 2: had a really good training camp. He'd get into the
- 14:03Speaker 2: regular season. Running room's hard to come by. And I
- 14:08Speaker 2: think he's at his best when he can improvise and
- 14:11Speaker 2: really shoot the gap, find the hole, and create. He's
- 14:16Speaker 2: a self-creator a lot of times. And it hasn't really
- 14:19Speaker 2: been there, and that's been for all the running backs,
- 14:21Speaker 2: as I mentioned. But he also had a bad fumble
- 14:25Speaker 2: against the Chicago Bears, limiting him to two snaps, presumably. Shipley,
- 14:30Speaker 2: I think, played 13 in that game. But he rebounded
- 14:33Speaker 2: in a nice game against the Rams when the running
- 14:36Speaker 2: room was pretty difficult to come by. I thought he
- 14:38Speaker 2: made the most of his opportunities there. And then when
- 14:41Speaker 2: he sustained that injury late in the game, I mean,
- 14:45Speaker 2: it looked painful. It looked like he was really going
- 14:48Speaker 2: through it. And as I mentioned, he was in the
- 14:50Speaker 2: medical tent for quite some time and then left the field.
- 14:54Speaker 1: Never a good thing.
- 14:56Speaker 2: Injuries are the worst part of sports, as I said,
- 14:59Speaker 2: and You hate to see it, but this is the
- 15:03Speaker 2: sort of state of the Eagles running back room right now.
- 15:05Speaker 2: We'll have to wait and see what we learn this
- 15:08Speaker 2: week regarding Quinion Mitchell, who sustained a knee injury in
- 15:12Speaker 2: the 24 to 20 loss to the Rams. There's Jonathan Grenard,
- 15:16Speaker 2: who I believe, according to a report, it wasn't considered
- 15:21Speaker 2: to be.
- 15:21Speaker 1: I want to hold on.
- 15:23Speaker 2: It wasn't considered to be a serious injury, and it
- 15:27Speaker 2: seems like the Eagles really... So Ann Rappaport said, Eagles
- 15:31Speaker 2: edge Jonathan Grenard, who exited Sunday's game early with an
- 15:33Speaker 2: ankle injury, is considered day-to-day, sources say, not a major injury.
- 15:38Speaker 2: So that's from Ann Rappaport of ESPN and NFL Network
- 15:42Speaker 2: with that report on Jonathan Grenard earlier on Monday. So
- 15:46Speaker 2: they got good news there. Not good news with Tank Bigsby.
- 15:49Speaker 2: We'll have to wait and see what the... immediate future
- 15:54Speaker 2: holds for Saquon Barkley and Quinion Mitchell. I'm really curious
- 15:58Speaker 2: to see what the injury report looks like after Wednesday's
- 16:01Speaker 2: practice to get a little bit more clarity into, you know,
- 16:05Speaker 2: some of these timelines because the Eagles are staying in
- 16:09Speaker 2: Philadelphia for the, for the full week of practice and
- 16:12Speaker 2: they are flying to London and, Friday, after their workday
- 16:17Speaker 2: has concluded. And then there'll be the walkthrough Saturday and
- 16:20Speaker 2: then the game on Sunday. So this is going to
- 16:22Speaker 2: be a really fast and furious week. That's no different
- 16:26Speaker 2: than any other week when you cover the Philadelphia Eagles.
- 16:28Speaker 2: And a lot of news, a lot of stuff to
- 16:31Speaker 2: cover this week. So make sure that you're staying plugged
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- 16:37Speaker 1: And of course, The Checko Daily, as.
- 16:40Speaker 2: I bring you the day-to-day information to keep you as
- 16:46Speaker 2: close as possible to the Eagles. That's going to do
- 16:49Speaker 2: it for this episode of The Checko Daily. I'm Andrew DiCecco,
- 16:53Speaker 2: and I'll catch you all on the next one.