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Insiders on Prospects, Discussion on Aaron Rodgers, & Scott Pioli on Defensive Backs · NFL Now

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  Speaker 1: two is one hour away of the twenty twenty three
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  Speaker 1: NFL Scouting Combine, presented to you by Noble. On a rainy, cloudy,
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  Speaker 1: ugly day here in Indianapolis, it is warm and wonderful inside. However,
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  Speaker 1: at Lucas Oil Stadium, cal Vns last night, pretty good
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  Speaker 1: looking workout here as we see these guys file in
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  Speaker 1: Mark Mayor at the tight ends will be working out
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  Speaker 1: on Saturday. They have been doing their stuff today on
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  Speaker 1: the podium earlier today. And the d lineman that worked
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  Speaker 1: out last night actually moved to the bench press today
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  Speaker 1: because we changed up the schedule a little bit. I
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  Speaker 1: was Massie Smith, a massive defensive tackle from Michigan. Thirty
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  Speaker 1: four rests on the bench to night. We're going to
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  Speaker 1: see the defensive on this deal here at Lucas Oil Stadium.
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  Speaker 1: Last year, for example, we had a Rookie of the
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  Speaker 1: Year in that group. We had Sauce Guard and we
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  Speaker 1: had Tarik Wooland who was tied for the NFL lead
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  Speaker 1: with six interceptions. Maybe we see performances like that today
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  Speaker 1: that lead to great rookie years in twenty twenty three,
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  Speaker 1: and it filled out with the combine. I mean Andrews Ciciliano,
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  Speaker 1: That is Tom Pelicero, this is Ian Rappaport. How many
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  Speaker 1: times can you bench to twenty five? Negative one? Negative one?
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  Speaker 1: Can you do it? Tom Nolly? What does negative one mean?
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  Speaker 1: What does that means? You through? Like the bar crushes? Yeah? No,
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  Speaker 1: you You try to lift it up and it just
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  Speaker 1: goes backwards in the bar crushes you. Yeah, okay, or
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  Speaker 1: chokes me to death. Yeah, let's hope that does not happen. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I was Ian on the peloton this morning into Jim,
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  Speaker 1: and he looked as close to death as anyone I've
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  Speaker 1: ever seen. Now I came through the other side, so
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  Speaker 1: let's get here. I am. But it was not great.
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  Speaker 1: I bet I can get two reps too, I respect
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  Speaker 1: No running the forty, that's fantastic. I would have you know.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think you could do one rep? Are you
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  Speaker 1: kidding me? Right now? No way to twenty five? No
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  Speaker 1: chan literally, no chant, true story, and you're not gonna
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  Speaker 1: believe me. I once did ten. I absolutely see that
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  Speaker 1: yet shorter arm, so the bar doesn't have to go
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  Speaker 1: very far. Tiny arms. Yep, it's got Paoli's off stage saying,
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  Speaker 1: no way, it's not about me. It's about the quarterbacks
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  Speaker 1: they work out on Saturday. We'll get to the dbs
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  Speaker 1: coming up shortly, but let's get to the quarterbacks are
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  Speaker 1: on the podium earlier today. Yeah. I've been this size,
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  Speaker 1: you know, respectfully, my whole life. Um, you know, I
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  Speaker 1: I know who I am. I know I know what
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  Speaker 1: I can do, and you know, for me, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I think it's fair. You know, everyone can conspeculate and
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  Speaker 1: ask whatever questions are necessary. But you know, I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to continue to control it. I can control. I keep
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  Speaker 1: working my hardest to put myself in good position, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm confident in myself. I know what I can do,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, I'm just excited to get to that
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  Speaker 1: next level. I'm gonna think about the bear at one.
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  Speaker 1: Is that a weird thing to think about that? I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to go there. I mean, that's that's
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  Speaker 1: his team. So but I mean, I think I gotta
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  Speaker 1: do I gonna do my thing. I gotta go build
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  Speaker 1: my legacy. And I know he and he's route me,
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  Speaker 1: he text me yesterday morning. So me and him are
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  Speaker 1: brothers for life. I see myself, you know, I want
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  Speaker 1: to be a legend, you know. I want to be
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  Speaker 1: like Patrick Mahomes. I want to be like Tom Brady.
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  Speaker 1: I want to be one of the Grace. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I will be one of the Grace, you though, because
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  Speaker 1: I'm wanting to work that hard and get to that point.
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  Speaker 1: And so to answer that question, you know, I feel
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  Speaker 1: like I'm gonna be one of the Grays in the
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  Speaker 1: next few years. All right, So confidence a theme from
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  Speaker 1: these quarterbacks who we are going to see work out
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  Speaker 1: on Saturday. Now, Brace Young's not gonna throw. We've reported
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  Speaker 1: that it's likely going to happen at one of the
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  Speaker 1: Alabama Pro days. The topic, however, in today, right out
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  Speaker 1: of the gate, when all the reporters swarmed around the podium,
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  Speaker 1: was his height. I thought he handled it pretty well. Like, guys,
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  Speaker 1: look this as my height. I've played pretty well. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not gonna change. It's not like I'm all of a
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  Speaker 1: sudden gonna be six two when when I get measured
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  Speaker 1: on Saturday. Right, And I'm just say there's gonna be
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  Speaker 1: a lot of discussion about like what is he going
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  Speaker 1: to be? Is it gonna be five ten, five ten
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  Speaker 1: and a half, five to eleven? He is what he is.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. He's not six foot five, He's not
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  Speaker 1: justin Herbert as it stands now, I mean, I've talked
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  Speaker 1: to a lot of teams about this. Obviously, a lot
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  Speaker 1: of teams have spoken to Bryce Runs. Plenty of teams
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  Speaker 1: in the top ten have done the evaluations. The height
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  Speaker 1: is a thing, the late is a thing. It matters,
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  Speaker 1: but it doesn't matter enough from the people I've spoke
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  Speaker 1: with to knock him out of the number one spot.
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  Speaker 1: Quarterbacks can be smaller nowadays. We've seen a couple of
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  Speaker 1: Kyler Murray obviously probably the best example, best and latest example.
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  Speaker 1: Now he has played at an incredibly high level of Alabama.
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  Speaker 1: Doesn't seem like his height has really been a detriment.
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  Speaker 1: So it's a thing. I get it. But if it's
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  Speaker 1: not changing his status, it just gives some teams something
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  Speaker 1: to think about, like, Okay, the height has not been
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  Speaker 1: a disqualifier for quarterbacks. In the last handful address, Baker
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  Speaker 1: Mayfield went number one, Kylin Murray went number one. The
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  Speaker 1: issue with Bryce Young that I have from scouts is
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  Speaker 1: more so about he's a smaller framed guy. He was
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  Speaker 1: listed at one hundred ninety four pounds at Alabama scouts
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  Speaker 1: who went through the school back in the fall. We're
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  Speaker 1: told he was playing around one eighty six. Now, he
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  Speaker 1: said on the podium this morning, he's bulked up to
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  Speaker 1: closer to two hundred pounds. But remember at Alabama you
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  Speaker 1: were playing behind five NFL caliber offensive lineman. He barely
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  Speaker 1: got hit last season, and he still suffered an ac
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  Speaker 1: joint injury that did impact him over the second half
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  Speaker 1: of the season. That's not to say that there's a
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  Speaker 1: durability issue with Bryce Young. It's just quarterbacks under two
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  Speaker 1: hundred pounds. There's not a real track record in the NFL,
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  Speaker 1: particularly drafting one really high. So you've got to be
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  Speaker 1: convinced that all the other skills he brings to the table,
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  Speaker 1: and you see him making these throws, the arm, the anticipation,
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  Speaker 1: the ability to get the ball out can make up
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  Speaker 1: for the fact that this is not somebody you want
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  Speaker 1: standing in there and taking a bunch of hits. I've
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  Speaker 1: heard multiple times he's the best quarterback period. If you
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  Speaker 1: were sixty three, we wouldn't be half of this conversation.
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  Speaker 1: He's number one. He probably still and should and will
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  Speaker 1: be number one regardless. The question is how many hits
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  Speaker 1: can you take? Well, a six five quarterback is not
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  Speaker 1: impervious to injury. You can take hits, you can get
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  Speaker 1: hurt as well. It's how many hits can you take?
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  Speaker 1: Lower will lass to chair like we lowered mine, so
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't be towering over you. Guys. We're not going
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  Speaker 1: to do the whole ian that at the chair again
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  Speaker 1: like we did yesterday. Oh that was funny. I left.
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  Speaker 1: I let's get to CJ. Strout. I thought it was
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  Speaker 1: notable today that you had a guy saying I don't
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  Speaker 1: want to go to the team that has the number
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  Speaker 1: one overall pick. You rarely rarely hear it. But I
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  Speaker 1: also think there was something endearing about it, and that
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  Speaker 1: is Justin Fields is my guy. I'm not big footing him.
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  Speaker 1: He's not a running back. He's a really good quarterback.
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  Speaker 1: That's I thought that was interesting too. And I mean,
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  Speaker 1: obviously CJ. Strout, very informed of the situation, knows the landscape,
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  Speaker 1: knows that the Bears seem to have committed see pretty
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  Speaker 1: clearly to Justin Fields this week. They also have the
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  Speaker 1: same agent and David Mullill get up both the higher
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  Speaker 1: state guys. Clearly he knows and he's right, that is
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  Speaker 1: Field's team. I think if CJ's Stroud goes number one,
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  Speaker 1: it's probably not going to be for the Bears. Certainly
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  Speaker 1: trading the pick seems to be the more likely option.
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  Speaker 1: And yeah, we are going to see We're gonna see
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  Speaker 1: him out there this week. When you see him throw it,
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  Speaker 1: probably not going to see him do much else till
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  Speaker 1: and assuming he does it all as Ohio State Pro Day.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, we talk about Bryce Young being a
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  Speaker 1: likely number one selection. It seems to me CJ. Stroud
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  Speaker 1: me I see maybe the upper hand in the second
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  Speaker 1: quarterback take it. It's certainly not been firmly decided, but
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  Speaker 1: either way, Tom, it's pretty clear we're gonna get quarterback
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  Speaker 1: quarterback one two and maybe one two, three, And talking
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  Speaker 1: to the scouts two about CJ. Stroud a big part
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  Speaker 1: of this. And you don't want to have past players
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  Speaker 1: from the same school influencing your thinking. Everyone's an individual,
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  Speaker 1: but the quarterbacks who have come out of Ohio State
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  Speaker 1: read the field, they see it. They play a little
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  Speaker 1: bit differently than everybody else. And that's something that you know,
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  Speaker 1: we had John Beck up here earlier. You talk to
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  Speaker 1: some of the quarterback coaches who work with these guys
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  Speaker 1: through the process. It's not that CJ. Strouder, Justin Fields
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  Speaker 1: or whoever doesn't have the bandwidth for it or they
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  Speaker 1: can't process quickly enough. A lot of it is they're
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  Speaker 1: taught to read it differently. Even watching those highlights right there,
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  Speaker 1: it's a lot of the quick play action. But first read,
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  Speaker 1: it's when you have to get into the NFL and
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  Speaker 1: you go through actual NFL progressions, how are you able
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  Speaker 1: to adjust? No question, c J. Strout is a really
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  Speaker 1: talented player. Sorry, jump in. That's why it's so nice
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  Speaker 1: to see what Luke Getzy has done in Chicago with
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  Speaker 1: Justin Fields being like, you know what, that may be
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  Speaker 1: the case for a house day quarterbacks. I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: make this work and get the best out of them.
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  Speaker 1: And that's a good sign for c Shad's future. And
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  Speaker 1: the Bears do believe in Justin Fields. Now. Of course,
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  Speaker 1: there's gonna be a ton of talk and there already
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  Speaker 1: is about what potentially could happen with the number one
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  Speaker 1: pick if they don't fall in love with any of
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  Speaker 1: the position players and they can't trade down. Do they
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  Speaker 1: stand in and take a quarterback? When you're drafting number one,
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  Speaker 1: you never want to be there again, so you have
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  Speaker 1: a scenario for everything. But I have not gotten any
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  Speaker 1: indication in talking to people that the Bears have doubts
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  Speaker 1: about what Justin Fields can be. He's obviously very dynamic
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  Speaker 1: as a playmaker as a runner, can throw the football
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  Speaker 1: to go to that second Green Bay game last year,
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  Speaker 1: you see what they think his upside is. Meanwhile, I
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  Speaker 1: got a guy and Anthony Richardson, who is a traits
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  Speaker 1: player at a position that generally is not drafted off
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  Speaker 1: of trade, a short term producer at Florida. But he's
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  Speaker 1: gonna come out here and throw. He's going to do
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  Speaker 1: everything every drill and has the opportunity here because c J.
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  Speaker 1: Stroud is not going to do any of the testing
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  Speaker 1: or the drills, neither is Bryce Young. Anthony Richardson potentially
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  Speaker 1: can put up some crazy numbers out here. He's going
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  Speaker 1: to run a forty yard dash, so is Mallie Cunningham
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  Speaker 1: from Louisville. There have only been I got an updated
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  Speaker 1: stab on this from NFL Research. Four quarterbacks in the
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  Speaker 1: quarterback group in combined history, who have ever run a
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  Speaker 1: forty yard dash officially in under four point five seconds.
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  Speaker 1: Only one of those, Robert Griffin, the third ever actually
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  Speaker 1: plagued quarterback in the NFL. So you got two guys
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  Speaker 1: in Anthony Richardson as well as Millie Kunynham, the potentially
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  Speaker 1: can add to that list when they get out there
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  Speaker 1: and run the forty. And had that other Louivill quarterback
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  Speaker 1: never ran a forty, we get another good pay. Imagine
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  Speaker 1: if he had, he didn't right rand four four five
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  Speaker 1: in his protect There you go, and that would be
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  Speaker 1: a Lamar Jackson in twenty eighteen. Oh, I thought you
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  Speaker 1: Matt Justin justine four five, Well the other Louisville Look, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Mr Jackson, I think never in a right, I don't,
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  Speaker 1: I don't did not relieve he did. That was twenty eighteen.
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  Speaker 1: What I was saying you mentioned, argis what happens when
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  Speaker 1: you turned that way. I can't really hear you, but
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  Speaker 1: it's fine, my bad. I just I'm trying to read
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  Speaker 1: lips here. I'm talking about a lot of quarterbacks in
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  Speaker 1: that segment. The RG three is twenty twelve, and that
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  Speaker 1: you you also had quarterbacks go one two Andrew Luck
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  Speaker 1: here to Indianapolis and then RG three two to Washington.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you guys. And if I mentioned something about Witherspoon
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  Speaker 1: Castro kid up Witherspoon Big check out Party, want Winnerspoon.
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  Speaker 1: Witherspoon that with his books, the brass Roos's branch on
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  Speaker 1: the Blitz Branch's probably on defense. Anyway, the MBP of
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  Speaker 1: this game and that is battered away Joey Porter junior,
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  Speaker 1: Joey Porner junior with the Temple Antonia Jackson takes him
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  Speaker 1: down of the backfield. Look, the tight ends are really
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  Speaker 1: really good. The edge players are really really good. It
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  Speaker 1: is a fantastic group of defensive backs, particularly at corner.
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  Speaker 1: And it's the dbs who takes center stage this evening. Now,
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  Speaker 1: Devin Witherspoon is not going to work out. He is
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  Speaker 1: Daniel Jeremiah's number one corner. If Joey Porter's name sounds familiar, yes,
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  Speaker 1: it is the son of the former Steelers linebacker, the
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  Speaker 1: former Steelers coach as well. Joey Porter said he grew
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  Speaker 1: up with Mike Tomlinskin. He would love to go to
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  Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Christian Gonzalez, Tom Pellicero's book with him yesterday. It
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  Speaker 1: is a pretty good group, a group that is now
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  Speaker 1: coming in here to Lucas Oil Stadium getting ready to
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  Speaker 1: do their thing. Take of the field. We have the
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  Speaker 1: kickers and the punters working out earlier today with the
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  Speaker 1: Special Team's coaches. Within the past hour. Defensive backs are
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  Speaker 1: now in the room again twenty seven years doing this
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  Speaker 1: evaluation thing at NFL Front Office is got Pioli. As
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  Speaker 1: we see these guys tonight, what does it take to
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  Speaker 1: be an NFL corner? You know right now, Andrew, it's big,
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  Speaker 1: and it's tall, and it's fast. That's all that people
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  Speaker 1: are talking about. Right It's good to be it's sexy
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  Speaker 1: to be big. But right now, depending on the system
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  Speaker 1: that you play and whether it's zone, whether you're nickel,
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  Speaker 1: whether it's man, that depends on what you are as
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  Speaker 1: a corner. What you need to do is you do
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  Speaker 1: need to have size and length. You need to have speed.
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  Speaker 1: If you are lacking speed, then you need to have length.
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  Speaker 1: Because we hear people talk about length all the time.
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  Speaker 1: What length means is if you have long arms, you
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  Speaker 1: can actually improve the time of your speed because you're
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  Speaker 1: closing the distance by using long arms. You need to
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  Speaker 1: have number one ball skills because a lot of people
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  Speaker 1: who can get themselves in position to make plays, Andrew,
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  Speaker 1: they can cover people, but they just can't make a
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  Speaker 1: play in the ball. So when you hear coaches and
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  Speaker 1: scouts talking about ball skills, at the end of the day,
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  Speaker 1: you can be big, long, fast, quick, agile, all that,
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  Speaker 1: but if you don't have ball skills to make plays
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  Speaker 1: on the ball, it's going to be a problem. Now,
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  Speaker 1: the other thing I do want to mention is this
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  Speaker 1: everyone talks about athleticism, reactive athleticisms. Athleticism is so critical
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  Speaker 1: because you need to react to the movements of the
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  Speaker 1: wide receiver. You can run, you can be quick, but
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  Speaker 1: if you can't do that in terms of the transition,
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  Speaker 1: you're not going to be able to cover. So athleticism
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  Speaker 1: has to be reactive athleticism. And the other thing you
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  Speaker 1: need is when those receivers were tight ends change direction.
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  Speaker 1: You need to have some balance as well, Andrew, and
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  Speaker 1: you need some versatility. You need some corners to play
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  Speaker 1: both inside outside, and it goes for the safeties here
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  Speaker 1: as well. Some guys are deep, some guys are up
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  Speaker 1: more of the box. Look what Jalen Petrie did last
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  Speaker 1: year for the Texans. He was basically a linebacker and
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  Speaker 1: a torpedo in the back. Then, what does it take
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  Speaker 1: these days to play safety? Well, what it's always taken
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  Speaker 1: is intelligence, vision, and instincts and the ability to close
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  Speaker 1: on the ball. So when you're in the deep part
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  Speaker 1: of the field, even if it's a deep half or
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  Speaker 1: a deep middle, you need to be able to see,
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  Speaker 1: have anticipation, be able to react. You need to be
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  Speaker 1: able to stick your foot in the ground, change direction
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  Speaker 1: and get on and make a play. Again. You need
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  Speaker 1: to be athletic, you need to be fast, but there
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  Speaker 1: needs to be some anticipation as well. Andrew, So to me,
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  Speaker 1: the other thing that I could never compromise in terms
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  Speaker 1: of the safety position, and one of my favorite safeties
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  Speaker 1: of all time, Eric Berry, who redrafted number five overall.
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  Speaker 1: He had everything I just mentioned, but Eric's ability not
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  Speaker 1: only to be smart, but to communicate the things that
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  Speaker 1: he knew he had to communicate exceptional. Rodney Harrison was
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  Speaker 1: another one. You know, Eric Berry was in the middle
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  Speaker 1: of the field. Rodney Harrison was a little bit closer.
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  Speaker 1: But they have to be able to communicate because they're
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  Speaker 1: in a position where they can see everything and they
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  Speaker 1: have to let other people know what's going on. And
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  Speaker 1: when they have that ability, you can play for a long,
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  Speaker 1: long long time. I had two screens going last night
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  Speaker 1: on the concourse above the field at Lucas Oil. Andrew
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  Speaker 1: America on NBC, the Great Peter King. It's good to
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  Speaker 1: see you, sir, Andrew Green, to be with you. We
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  Speaker 1: have spent a lot of time talking about these quarterbacks
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  Speaker 1: when we do not see until Saturday. Evaluating these guys
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  Speaker 1: is one thing trying to figure out where they go.
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  Speaker 1: We still got to get to free agency because that
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  Speaker 1: is a huge part of it. Derek Carr is already
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: a free agent. What you heard about where he might
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: end up. I think that's a really interesting question from
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: the standpoint of I think a lot of people are
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: waiting for the Jets to make a decision, and the
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: Jets have to wait for Aaron Rodgers to make it.
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  Speaker 1: Is that the first domino that has to fall. I
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: think Aaron. I think teams have to know if Aaron
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: Rodgers is going to play. Everyone's assuming that Aaron Rodgers,
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: who could make sixty million dollars for six months of work,
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: probably isn't rich enough to pass that up. But who knows.
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers is a different guy. So my feeling is
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  Speaker 1: that the Jets will make that first decision, and if
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: they keep getting put off by the Packers on Aaron Rodgers,
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  Speaker 1: they may go to Derek Carr. I think they're gonna
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: end up. They would like to end up, in my opinion,
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  Speaker 1: with one of those two, but probably they'd rather end up,
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  Speaker 1: especially the owner. Just my gut feeling with Aaron Rodgers,
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: and that seems to be the feeling around town, it's
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  Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. But if Aaron doesn't want to come here,
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: let's go try to get Derek Carr. Meantime, Derek has
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  Speaker 1: to kind of wait. Everyone kind of has to wait
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  Speaker 1: for Aaron Rodgers. Do you have any idea what does
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  Speaker 1: your gut tell you, Peter King, that Aaron Rodgers is
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  Speaker 1: going to do? I mean, my gut tells me you'll play,
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: But I don't know in Green Bay. Does he want
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  Speaker 1: to come back to Green Bay? I think I think
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  Speaker 1: once he finds out and he probably pretty much knows
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: now that the Packers really would like to play Jordan Love.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: It's an absolute, total instant replay of fifteen years ago
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  Speaker 1: when the Packers in Aaron, after three years of Aaron
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  Speaker 1: Rodgers sitting on the bench, gave the job to Aaron Rodgers,
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: you know, over Brett Farve. The circumstances are a little
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  Speaker 1: bit different. But this year, I think the Packers are
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: ready to play Jordan Love and to be absolutely all in.
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: I think one of the things that the Packers obviously
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: have wanted is Aaron Rodgers to be a part of
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: the offseason program more than he has been. Willie this year,
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: I don't know will they say to him, we want
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  Speaker 1: you to stay, but only if you'll be a part
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  Speaker 1: of the off season program, which you can't do by
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: NFL PA rules, by Union rules. But you can at
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: least get a feeling from Rogers over whether he is
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: going to want to be involved in the offseason program.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: And I think when you have a young team with
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  Speaker 1: a lot of young weapons, I think it's important for
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  Speaker 1: your quarterback to be involved. And I do as well.
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: Most teams would say the exact same thing. My dilemma
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  Speaker 1: is this, let's say, on the Jets or the Raiders,
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: or whomever wants to get in that sweepstakes, if Aaron
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: Rodgers is made available, what do you give up knowing that,
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: regardless of how he may feel right now, we may
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: go through this entire thing next year. Do you need
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: a multi year commitment from the only way if I
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: were the Jets, the only way I would do this
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  Speaker 1: is to get a multi year commitment from for him
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  Speaker 1: to tell you to look you in the eye, I'm
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  Speaker 1: in for two years. Otherwise it's just a means. To me,
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't make any sense to just rent Aaron Rodgers
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: for five or six months. I just don't think it'd
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: be smart. I have about a minute remaining here. March
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: seven is the deadline for the Ravens to if they
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: don't have a deal, use the tag on Lamar Jackson.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: I am fascinated, fascinated to see if they are willing
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: to put the non exclusive tag on him and say, Lamar,
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  Speaker 1: go ahead and see if you can find the deal
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: that you are seeking. Andrew. There's so many weird parts
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: of this story, but one of them is that this
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: is the week right here in Indianapolis that an agent
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: would be able to sidle up to general managers in
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: the NFL and say, hey, what do you think of
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: my guy? What do you think of my guy? And
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: ask them whether they might have some interest in Aaron Rodgers.
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  Speaker 1: You know, off the record, you can't make any deals,
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: he can't do anything efficiently here. But those kind of
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: conversations always happened. Well, he doesn't have an agent, he
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: has nobody here representing him, so no team. Really, I
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: had a team that is interested in Lamar Jackson, ask me,
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: interview me for twenty minutes about Lamar Jackson and what's
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: he really like? What's all that? And look, they can
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: find other people who know him a lot better than me.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: But the fact that they're doing that, they would never
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: be talking to a sportswriter about how I felt my
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: review of a player. But there just isn't a lot
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: of information you know about Lamar Jackson out there and
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: viewer to ask me, what's going to happen? This is
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: going to be a great story in the next few days.
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  Speaker 1: My recommendation is a short term, guaranteed contract. Just do it,
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: and then even if you have to go through it
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  Speaker 1: again in a couple of years, just get this headache
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  Speaker 1: out of the way. The Ravens are built to win now,
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  Speaker 1: Andrew and I don't know that they really want to
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  Speaker 1: go through life without Lamar Jackson, and I think that's
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  Speaker 1: that would be my recommendation to both sides. I look
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: forward to reading your post Combine column. Football Morning America,
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: Peter King always, Thanks Andrews. Peter King, everybody you're watching
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: NFL now. We are ten minutes away from night number
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: two at Lucas Oil with the defensive backs taking center stage.
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  Speaker 1: A preview from our friends Peter Schreger at Charles Davis,
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  Speaker 1: Chris Rhodes, Andrew. Thank you very much, Peter Schreger, Good morning,
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: football Charles Davis. Okay, Day two, no pressure corners and safeties.
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  Speaker 1: But we had ten guys defensive lineman, edge rushers, linebackers
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  Speaker 1: on Thursday clock under a four to fivety. What do
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  Speaker 1: you expect to see today? Out of group one? The
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: corners even faster times because that's when they're supposed to do.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: These are like track stars. And one of the guys
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna be watching is Emmanuel Forbes out of Mississippi State.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: He's part of that group of corners. There may be
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: those so called elite ones. He's one of those guys
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: you gotta consider. He looks like DeVante Smith in terms
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: of build coming out of Alabama to the Philadelphi Eagles.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: But he will tackle. He makes plays on the football.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: How about this. In high school he had he had
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: twenty two interceptions, eight for touchdowns. In his college career
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: he has six touchdowns. Three is freshman year, three is
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: senior year. I'm telling you his predictive Peter. He does it,
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  Speaker 1: he takes the ball away. I'm eager to watch him
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: in ball drills. The NFL has got everything right. We've
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: got everything. We needed one more of something that we need,
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: another Juju in the league, and we got one in
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: Julius Juju Brents six foot two, one hundred and ninety
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: eight pounds. He just jumped a forty one inch vertical
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  Speaker 1: and I love his story. Charles, We've talked about it
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  Speaker 1: off camera. Was at Iowa, wasn't in the playing time,
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  Speaker 1: transfers to Kansas State and immediately becomes a thirteen game
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  Speaker 1: starter in twenty twenty one, first team All Big Twelve,
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: four interceptions, which was third in the Big Twelve. Love
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: what Juju Brent brings to the table. And I also
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: like the guy's gonna be running right before him, Brian Branch,
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: who's not the most decorated of the Alabama defenders, but
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: I think he could do safety corner. He's a versatile
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: player who's gonna make an impact today. Yeah, he's gonna
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: be running with the corners. Group two is going to
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: be the safeties. Who's catching your eye? Yeah? Yeah. I
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: go to Jamie Robinson at a Florida State and you know,
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey is the last superstar Florida State guy. This
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: is the last one who is and he's the next
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: one that has been a first team All acc defensive
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  Speaker 1: back and back to back years. He's got the body
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: of work. Is he gonna light it up in the
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: speed drills today? I'm not sure, But this guy hits
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: this guy who was a leader, and he had a
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: standout week of practice at the Senior Bowl. If he
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: has a solidly at that anger, if he had a
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: solid performance today, I think he'd become a Day two pick.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: And we'll see from there if he can go down that.
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  Speaker 1: I hope there's some bad drills because you will will
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: hear the fault from Jamie Robinson. How about Sydney Brown.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: We saw him into senior ball, and every year I'm
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: looking for the next Tyrant Matthew in terms of instincts,
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: all right, we had Antoine Winfield, we had Alijah Molden.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: Now we have Sidney Brown. Six interceptions last year. This
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: guy finds the football. Plus he's a terrific leader, and
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: he will come downhill and strike you as well at
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: two hundred and thirteen pounds. I really liked this young
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: man a lot. His brother Chase a running back. We'll
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: see him later on in this combine, but I really
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: think Sidney Brown might be the next instinctive safety that
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: we'll see. Can I just throw out a corner. Yeah, sure,
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: Keiley Ringo. We saw as Georgia teammate Nolan Smith lighted
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  Speaker 1: up yesterday. You're gonna do it. And by the way,
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: you just mentioned him as a corner, he could be
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: a safety too. Oh, it's gonna be fun. We'll see
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: you at the top of the hour. All right, boys,
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be fun. It's gonna be fast. Before that, however,
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: we have time for one more thing before we go.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: Ian or Appaport is gonna go first the combine gets going.
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  Speaker 1: One of the things we always like to see is
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: the hallway shots are really serious into the jewels, making
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: the way to the combine, ready to do some business.
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  Speaker 1: That we got a shot here, really some of the
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: main competitors coming into this combine. Do we have it here?
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: Let's see that boom? Look? I mean that look at
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: Stacy Dale. Stacy, look at her strolling Chapnick Laura Chapnicker, producer.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: I mean you want to talk about game face, Scott,
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: that's a game face. It looks I'm waiting for her
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: to shoot away the camera. That Stacy Dales is a
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: Hall of Famer, a legitimate Hall of Hammer And she
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: said on Live TV last night. I'm Canadian, damn it,
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: and that made the nights far better than she kid.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: They were both fantastic Sharon and I as well. Scott.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: What do you got one more thing to me? You
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: know I earlier, earlier I talked about one HBCU player.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: I want to talk about another HBCU player, Isaiah Land
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: from Florida, A and M Universe. He showed up here,
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: had a very good day. Yes, not a rare day,
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: not exceptional day, but a very good day. And Isaiah
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: Land didn't measure up to the size of the other
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: edge rushers. But here's the thing. He can play outside
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: and inside. He's the Buck Buchanan FCS Player of the Year,
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: Defense of this year, two time All American. This guy
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: has nothing but production and saw him play inside at
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: the East West Game. Terrific young player. That's my one
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: more thing. Our friend Steve Smith Senior, very productive on
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: the field and very productive off the bill. Congratulations Steve.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: The Steve Smith Family Foundation opened up today ian Charlotte,
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: another Smith Family behavioral health urging care center. Steve well done.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: Looking forward to having amenste in Indianapolis. One of the
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: wide receivers on the Field on Saturday. Great stuff and
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: good reason here to be late for Scott for Ian,
• 26:45
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