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The Kenny Report | 19 March · The Kenny Report

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  Speaker 1: Live from the sky New Center.
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  Speaker 2: This is the Kenny Report.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks for joining The Kenny Report Live from Adelaide tonight,
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  Speaker 3: two days out from this state's election.
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  Speaker 1: I'll share with.
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  Speaker 3: You a sit down interview with the Liberal Leader, the
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  Speaker 3: Opposition leader, Ashton Hearne. I'll also catch up with Liberal
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  Speaker 3: Senator for South Australia Anne Rustin, and we'll have live
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  Speaker 3: here on the banks of the Tyrans, Cory Bernardi, the
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  Speaker 3: One Nation South Australian leader and Star candidates. I'll also
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  Speaker 3: be joined by former Foreign Minister Alexander Downer to talk
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  Speaker 3: about events in the Middle East War and we'll try
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  Speaker 3: and squeeze in some footy with Robbo before wrapping it
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  Speaker 3: all up with Tim and Mark.
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  Speaker 1: Let's get cracking well.
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  Speaker 3: As I said here, I am on the banks of
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  Speaker 3: the Torrans, right in the heart of Adelaide in South Australia,
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  Speaker 3: two days out from an election, and you.
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  Speaker 1: Wouldn't read about it. All the talk is about One Nation.
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  Speaker 3: It's Pauline Hansen and her political movement of One Nation
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  Speaker 3: that is dominating discussions here in South Australia.
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  Speaker 1: Now. One Nation has been around for three decades now.
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  Speaker 1: Pauline Hanson has been a.
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  Speaker 3: Political force from Queensland for three decades. It's essentially a
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  Speaker 3: Queensland political force. So what's it doing down here in
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  Speaker 3: South Australia dominating events?
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  Speaker 1: This place? Love it as I do.
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  Speaker 3: I spent most of my life here until moving to
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  Speaker 3: Sydney fifteen or sixteen years ago. South Australia is not Queensland.
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  Speaker 3: There are no crocodiles in that river. In fact, if
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  Speaker 3: that river was in Queensland, they wouldn't call it a river,
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  Speaker 3: It'd be a creek. In this part of the world,
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  Speaker 3: there is no such thing as throwing a football. It's
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  Speaker 3: sacrilege to throw a football. You kick and hand pass
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  Speaker 3: a football. And in South Australia this is a city state.
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  Speaker 3: One nation generally appeals to the regions that the large
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  Speaker 3: and prosperous regions of northern New South Wales and queens
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  Speaker 3: That in South Australia, Adelaide is virtually a city state.
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  Speaker 3: Seventy five percent of the state's population live in the
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  Speaker 3: Greater Adelaide region, so the regional censers are tiny by comparison. Yet,
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  Speaker 3: as you saw yesterday in the CBD of Adelaide when
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  Speaker 3: we went for a street walk with Pauline Hanson and
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  Speaker 3: Corey Bernardi.
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  Speaker 1: She and they were wildly popular.
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  Speaker 3: One Nation is currently outpolling the coalition, well, the Liberal Party,
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  Speaker 3: there's no coalition here.
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  Speaker 1: They're outpolling the Liberal.
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  Speaker 3: Party in all the polls, and come Saturday it looks
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  Speaker 3: like One Nation will be the second political force in
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  Speaker 3: this state, pulling ahead of the Liberal Party. And that's
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  Speaker 3: why even the Labor Premier, Peter malanowskis is wary of them.
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  Speaker 4: Pauline Hanson comes down from Queensland and starts telling us
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  Speaker 4: what her problems are, and then she doesn't offer us
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  Speaker 4: single solution.
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  Speaker 2: Not one.
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  Speaker 4: If you don't have a policy or a plan, you're
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  Speaker 4: a pretender. And I haven't seen any policy or plans
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  Speaker 4: from One Nation, none whatsoever.
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  Speaker 3: And so this is now one of the few issues
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  Speaker 3: on which Labor and the Liberals agree.
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  Speaker 5: And there's no doubt that Pauline has been around a
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  Speaker 5: long time. She does politics a little bit differently, But
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  Speaker 5: you've got to look at who is actually capable of delivering.
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  Speaker 5: It's not just about spicing things up or having grievances.
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  Speaker 5: You've actually got to have a costed plan and a
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  Speaker 5: pathway to deliver.
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  Speaker 6: And I don't think that the minor parties do have that.
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  Speaker 3: I'll have that full interview with Ashton hern In just
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  Speaker 3: a few moments later in the program. But with all
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  Speaker 3: this going on today, One Nation we're out campaigning. Corey
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  Speaker 3: Bernardi and Pauline Hanson headed just south of Adelaide to
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  Speaker 3: the Wine regions and they were pushing their cause.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's going to be a very important election
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  Speaker 1: for the whole of Australia.
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  Speaker 7: Will be one.
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  Speaker 8: Host to see what to see what One Nation.
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  Speaker 7: Or how we are going to fair in this election.
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  Speaker 7: If the polls are true.
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  Speaker 9: This is unprecedented since the Queensland state election when we
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  Speaker 9: received about twenty three percent of the mate.
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  Speaker 10: Well, our measure of success is having a One Nation
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  Speaker 10: voice in the Parliament. So I say, if it's one
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  Speaker 10: seat in the upper House, that's great. If it's two
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  Speaker 10: or more, fantastic. If we win any in the lower House,
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  Speaker 10: that's good too. But we just want to be a
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  Speaker 10: voice for South Australians and what we're trying to build
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  Speaker 10: here is something that is going to be sustainable and
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  Speaker 10: is going to actually change.
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  Speaker 2: His state for the better. So that starts this Saturday.
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  Speaker 3: Corey Bernardi will join me live here later in the program.
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  Speaker 3: He's a major asset for One Nation.
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  Speaker 1: Here.
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  Speaker 3: As I say, everybody knows Pauline Hanson and they know
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  Speaker 3: she's a Queenslander. Cory Bernardi gives One Nation a very
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  Speaker 3: recognizable and popular South Australian face.
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  Speaker 1: Now, as I said, I love this place. I love
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  Speaker 1: Adelaide dearly, but it's not really New York City, is it.
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  Speaker 3: The point I want to make is that in this place,
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  Speaker 3: which is this state, which is mainly desert, wh is
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  Speaker 3: really a city state. There are not strong regions where
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  Speaker 3: there aren't any crocs, where there aren't any cane toads.
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  Speaker 1: One nation is running strong. One nation is.
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  Speaker 3: Dominating the debate in the election in this southern state.
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  Speaker 3: If one Nation can make it here, they can make
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  Speaker 3: it anywhere. Now I want to update you on the
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  Speaker 3: fuel crisis with major developments today.
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  Speaker 1: National Cabinet was held.
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  Speaker 3: Of course, Anthony Albanesi announced that yesterday, but when you
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  Speaker 3: see what he's talking about and what he's doing, you
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  Speaker 3: have to wonder what he's up to.
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  Speaker 11: I want to assure Australians at this time that Australia.
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  Speaker 1: Is well prepared.
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  Speaker 11: Our fuel supply is currently secure. However, I want us
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  Speaker 11: to be over prepared, well prepared.
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  Speaker 1: He says they were well prepared.
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  Speaker 3: I thought the whole reason, the whole point of having
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  Speaker 3: an urgent national Cabinet is because they're not well prepared.
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  Speaker 3: And now he's telling us it's all our fault. Anyway,
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  Speaker 3: There's plenty of supplies, but we're buying too much.
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  Speaker 1: Have a look.
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  Speaker 11: I again reiterate today my message to Australians is please
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  Speaker 11: do not take more fuel than you need. That is
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  Speaker 11: how you can help. It's the Australian way to think
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  Speaker 11: of others, to think of their neighbors, their community, and
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  Speaker 11: also to think of the national interest. Only take what
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  Speaker 11: you need.
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  Speaker 3: So there's no supply problem. We're just buying too much.
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  Speaker 3: Yet he's decided to appoint a new Fuels Are to
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  Speaker 3: control supplies around the nation.
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  Speaker 1: That doesn't make much sense much sense.
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  Speaker 3: Does it? And have a look at who Albow has
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  Speaker 3: appointed as the new Fuels Are.
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  Speaker 12: So I want to tell you a bit about how
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  Speaker 12: the Climate Change Authority has thought in the past about
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  Speaker 12: the issue of setting targets and trajectory, and to give
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  Speaker 12: you an indication of the work that we're doing right now,
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  Speaker 12: because we've been asked in special terms of reference to
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  Speaker 12: conduct a review, and part of that review is also
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  Speaker 12: to make recommendations about what our future emission's reduction goal
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  Speaker 12: should be.
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  Speaker 3: Yes Anthea Harris, formerly of the Climate Change Authority, someone
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  Speaker 3: whose previous job was to try and focus on reducing
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  Speaker 3: emissions from fossil fuels. So the Albanezi government has appointed
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  Speaker 3: as the person to ensure we've all got adequate fuel supplies.
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  Speaker 3: Somebody who's committed to the elimination of our dependence on
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  Speaker 3: fossil fuels have a look.
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  Speaker 12: We have to start and always remember that it's very
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  Speaker 12: much in Australia's national interest to support international efforts to
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  Speaker 12: try and limit warming to two degrees above pre industrial levels.
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  Speaker 12: This is very important to the welfare of future Australian
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  Speaker 12: so we need to keep that in mind when we're
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  Speaker 12: thinking about what our contribution should be.
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  Speaker 1: It's funny, isn't it.
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  Speaker 3: All the people who are telling us we don't need
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  Speaker 3: fossil fuels, we can do it all with renewable energies,
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  Speaker 3: and we need to get rid of fossil fuels. They're
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  Speaker 3: all now are running around in the panic because they're
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  Speaker 3: worried we won't have enough fossil fuels. Now, with the
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  Speaker 3: war still raging in the Middle East, attacks still unfolding
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  Speaker 3: against Iran and Iran attacking its neighbors, we've learnt today
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  Speaker 3: that the Iranian women soccer team has arrived back in
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  Speaker 3: their home country. They've arrived there with five women who
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  Speaker 3: of course claimed asylum in Australia and then changed their minds.
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  Speaker 1: Have a look at this.
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  Speaker 13: The Iran women's soccer team has arrived back home, welcomed
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  Speaker 13: by a large crowd with flower wreaths and celebratory music.
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  Speaker 13: They're us crossing the border with Turkey. Just hours ago,
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  Speaker 13: six players and one support staff member were granted humanitarian
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  Speaker 13: visas in a Strea, but only two remains.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, look at them being used there as very much
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  Speaker 3: a part of wartime propaganda. You can see the pictures
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  Speaker 3: for yourself. To me, they don't look ecstatic to be home.
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  Speaker 3: A little smile with one of the young girls who
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  Speaker 3: was greeting them, but generally they don't look particularly happy
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  Speaker 3: and why would they notice the veils were back on.
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  Speaker 3: Those five who were granted asylum in Australia took their
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  Speaker 3: veils off for photos here before they changed their mind
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  Speaker 3: presumably under threats to their families. They're now back in
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  Speaker 3: Iran with their veils on, and I hope they're happy,
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  Speaker 3: but like you, I'm deeply worried that we may not
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  Speaker 3: see or hear much from them ever. Again, let's go
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  Speaker 3: to our first guest tonight that I'm joined here by
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  Speaker 3: the shadow Health Minister and Rustin who's a Liberal senator
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  Speaker 3: for South Australia. Good to talk you and I'll get
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  Speaker 3: your thoughts on the state election in just a moment.
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  Speaker 3: But first up on fuel security? Is this the right
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  Speaker 3: move by Anthony Alberzi to appoint a fuels a well,
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  Speaker 3: I just because.
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  Speaker 14: The pop out for Anthony for some time that there
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  Speaker 14: were going to be challenges as a result of the war,
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  Speaker 14: which are exacerbated because we've already got a cost of
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  Speaker 14: living crisis in this country, you know, in flesh and
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  Speaker 14: everybody is struggling to pay their bills and the like.
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  Speaker 14: And you know, some nearly three weeks into this, Anthony
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  Speaker 14: Alberanezi decides to hold a national Cabinet and appoint an
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  Speaker 14: independent person to actually once again deflect from the responsibility
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  Speaker 14: of his government and what they haven't been doing in
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  Speaker 14: responding to this crisis. I mean, one day there's no crisis,
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  Speaker 14: the next day there is. One day, apparently it sets
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  Speaker 14: our fault because we're buying too much fuel. The next
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  Speaker 14: day apparently it's the supplies. I mean, the mixed messaging
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  Speaker 14: that we have seen on this issue.
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  Speaker 7: It is no wonder Australians are confused.
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  Speaker 14: And now today he wants to put the blame on,
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  Speaker 14: you know, give somebody else the opportunity to take the blame.
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  Speaker 7: So he's appointed a FULSA in the country.
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  Speaker 14: It is just, it is such a terrible indictment on
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  Speaker 14: this government's handling of this issue.
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  Speaker 1: Is she the right person?
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  Speaker 3: Would she have the right capabilities to make sure we've
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  Speaker 3: got adequate fuel supplies around the country.
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  Speaker 14: Well, I don't know why the Minister and the Prime
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  Speaker 14: Minister aren't actually using the resources of the departments that
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  Speaker 14: they have at their disclosal. I mean, all of the
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  Speaker 14: information that Anthony Albanesi should be receiving in order to
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  Speaker 14: make decisions should be contained within these departments. I've ad
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  Speaker 14: a loss as to why we need to have an
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  Speaker 14: external person. Look, if it resolves the issue and it
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  Speaker 14: gets fuel into the tractors of our farmers and into
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  Speaker 14: the cars of Australian citizens. That's great, but quite frankly,
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  Speaker 14: it just looks like another deflective cop out by the government.
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  Speaker 3: Let's have a quick look at Anthony Alberanezi responded to
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  Speaker 3: questions on this today.
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  Speaker 5: He said Australia had enough fuel, but how can you
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  Speaker 5: say that when petrol stations are running out.
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  Speaker 15: That can't be true.
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  Speaker 11: There is not less fuel in Australia today than there
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  Speaker 11: was three weeks ago. This is an issue has been
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  Speaker 11: an issue of increased demand.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Anthony Albaneasy there.
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  Speaker 3: It is a strange situation appointing a fuels having a
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  Speaker 3: national Cabinet but telling us we've got plenty of fuel
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  Speaker 3: and there's no lesson we had a few weeks ago.
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  Speaker 3: So we will see what unfolds there. But I want
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  Speaker 3: to get your thoughts on the South Australian election.
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  Speaker 1: You'll be deeply.
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  Speaker 3: Involved in it, of course, but I want to start
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  Speaker 3: off by reminding viewers of what we showed yesterday with.
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  Speaker 1: Pauline Hanson's reception in Adelaide. More right in the heart
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  Speaker 1: of Adelaide.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely a pleasure media, thank you very much.
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  Speaker 7: Should be the Prime Minister of Australia every day of
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  Speaker 7: the week.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Peter.
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  Speaker 7: Hello Peter, thanks, thank you very much.
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  Speaker 1: A photo for you and cast for the photo. Is
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  Speaker 1: we vote for?
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  Speaker 16: You know, you have to tell me whether you're voting
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  Speaker 16: for one nation and why. Yeah, I was relegated to
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  Speaker 16: being a photographer for all the people who wanted to
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  Speaker 16: be seen with Pauline Hanson yesterday.
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  Speaker 3: She and Corey Bernardi very popular. I was there, I
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  Speaker 3: saw it. There's something on the move. The polls tell
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  Speaker 3: us that going to get more first preference votes than
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  Speaker 3: the Liberals. Are they going to become the second political
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  Speaker 3: force in this country?
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  Speaker 1: Comes Saturday?
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  Speaker 14: Well, I'm certainly not going to get ahead of Saturday.
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  Speaker 14: I mean, I think we'll wait and see what Saturday
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  Speaker 14: actually brings. A lot of people have already voted, and
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  Speaker 14: obviously the only poll that really matters is the one
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  Speaker 14: that gets counted on on Saturday night.
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  Speaker 7: So I'll reserve my judgment to see what happens.
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  Speaker 14: But you know, quite clearly, Pauline Hanson is a good
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  Speaker 14: retail politician and she has very cleverly tapped into I
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  Speaker 14: think there are a lot of Australians who are really
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  Speaker 14: angry about the drop in their standard of living and
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  Speaker 14: they are protesting that, and you know, I think the
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  Speaker 14: Liberal Party has a lot more to do to make
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  Speaker 14: sure that our communication is much better with Australians about
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  Speaker 14: what we would be offering.
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  Speaker 7: As an alternative.
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  Speaker 14: But quite frankly, the thing that I think has been
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  Speaker 14: so positive for the Liberal Party in this election campaign
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  Speaker 14: has been the incredible performance by Ashton Hearn. I mean,
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  Speaker 14: she's only had barely one hundred days to about it.
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  Speaker 3: We're going to get a look at her in a minute.
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  Speaker 3: Sorry to cut you off, but I just wanted to
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  Speaker 3: finally get your thoughts.
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  Speaker 1: Then.
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  Speaker 3: Obviously there is a concer in the community. Obviously people
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  Speaker 3: are unhappy with government, but they've got a labor state
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  Speaker 3: government and a labor federal government. So why isn't a
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  Speaker 3: Liberal party able to capitalize.
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  Speaker 1: On that, on those grievances rather than one nation.
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  Speaker 14: Well, I think that was the point I was actually
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  Speaker 14: getting to, Chris, is that I think that we've got
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  Speaker 14: to do better at communicating. I think Australians are getting
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  Speaker 14: their information by many, many different sources than they used
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  Speaker 14: to it, and I think that we our campaigning skills
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  Speaker 14: are quite antiquated in comparison to our competitors. So I
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  Speaker 14: think is Australians lift off the Labor government and they're
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  Speaker 14: pretty angry about what they're finding. They're they're protesting against
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  Speaker 14: about where they find themselves and that protest vote has
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  Speaker 14: gone to the minor parties, including one Nation. We need
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  Speaker 14: to do better about communicating what we need we are offering.
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  Speaker 14: And as I said, I think Ashtonhon's done a great job,
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  Speaker 14: but she was left with very little runway in which
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  Speaker 14: to do it in she was given.
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  Speaker 1: A pretty tough job.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us and Rust and I appreciate at
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  Speaker 3: Liberal Centator for South Australia and rustin there she talks
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  Speaker 3: about Ashton. I had the pleasure of catching up with
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  Speaker 3: her today. You have a look for yourself.
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  Speaker 1: You make up your own mind of.
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  Speaker 3: How she's doing as a Liberal leader fronting an election
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  Speaker 3: just one hundred days after getting the job. Joining me
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  Speaker 3: now is the South Australian Liberal leader, the opposition leader,
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  Speaker 3: Ashton Hern Ashton, welcome to the program.
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  Speaker 6: Thank you, great to be with you.
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  Speaker 3: Look what a difficult task has landed on your desk.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, look, there's certainly some challenges, but to be honest,
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  Speaker 5: I've really enjoyed it. I've been the leader now for
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  Speaker 5: just over one hundred days, which is slightly unconventional to
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  Speaker 5: change leaders so close to the election, But you've just
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  Speaker 5: got to make every post a winner and put forward
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  Speaker 5: the practical policies that are going to improve the lives
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  Speaker 5: of South Australians and that's what I've been focused on
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  Speaker 5: with my team.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but one hundred days, as you say, just three
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  Speaker 3: months out from the election, here's a basket case of
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  Speaker 3: a Liberal party. You lead it to the election. Do
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  Speaker 3: you ever wonder what you did to deserve this? You
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  Speaker 3: haven't even been in Parliament for four years yet.
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  Speaker 5: No, But look at the end of the day, you've
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  Speaker 5: got to try and make every post a winner, and
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  Speaker 5: you can only play the cards that you've been dealt.
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  Speaker 5: And what I was saying off air about some politicians
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  Speaker 5: becoming naval gazers and becoming commentators, it's true to say
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  Speaker 5: that you can always reflect on what could have been,
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  Speaker 5: having more time or not. But the reality is that
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  Speaker 5: I'm here in this role. I'm loving every moment and
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  Speaker 5: I think we've got some really exciting policies out there
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  Speaker 5: for people to consider, and there's not much longer to
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  Speaker 5: go before.
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  Speaker 6: All South Australians will be able to decide just a.
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  Speaker 1: Couple more sleeps.
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  Speaker 3: Now you talk about the hand that you've been dealt,
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  Speaker 3: What about the rap sheet? The list of criminals and
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  Speaker 3: criminal prosecutions in the Liberal Party? The former leader running
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  Speaker 3: now as an independent but actually prosecuted for dealing in drugs,
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  Speaker 3: another MP, former Liberal MP in jail, the seat vacant.
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  Speaker 3: Another former Liberal MP running in this campaign as an
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  Speaker 3: independent with an ankle bracelet facing domestic violence charges.
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  Speaker 1: And then there's another.
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  Speaker 3: Former Liberal MP who's been prosecuted and found guilty of
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: deception over parliamentary entitlements.
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: He's appealing and running in this election.
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: Do you feel that it's just so difficult to get
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: clear air for the Liberal Party when so much of
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: this stuff is lingering around even at this election.
• 17:18
  Speaker 5: There's certainly been some historical challenges, and I don't shy
• 17:21
  Speaker 5: away from that at all. I think you've got to
• 17:24
  Speaker 5: own things that have happened in the past, but you've
• 17:26
  Speaker 5: also got to move forward.
• 17:28
  Speaker 6: I'm presenting a really a fresh approach.
• 17:30
  Speaker 5: We've got some exciting policies and that's what I'm focused on.
• 17:33
  Speaker 5: I mean, Chris, no one's stopping me in the street
• 17:35
  Speaker 5: wanting to speak to me about former Liberals who are
• 17:39
  Speaker 5: now independents or whatnot. People are wanting to speak to
• 17:42
  Speaker 5: me about the policies that we've got. What can you
• 17:44
  Speaker 5: do about affordability, what are you doing for the housing market?
• 17:48
  Speaker 5: And by the way, crime's a big issue, so what
• 17:50
  Speaker 5: are we doing there. So that's what I've been pleased
• 17:52
  Speaker 5: to speak with people about.
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: Well, let's get into some of those issues.
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: A starting off with the government, the challenging you're challenging
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: the malanowskis labor governor been a largely competent government. Then
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: it's certainly popular and the state's doing very.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: Well compared comparatively.
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: So often South Australia lags behind the other mainland states
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: when it comes to economic development.
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: At the moment is doing very well.
• 18:13
  Speaker 5: And I said this as much on Sky News that
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: we are a great state and the best in the
• 18:18
  Speaker 5: nation really, but I think we can be better, and
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: we can be better if we've got a government that's
• 18:24
  Speaker 5: actually focused on getting those bread and butter issues right.
• 18:27
  Speaker 5: And it's one thing to have events which are fantastic,
• 18:30
  Speaker 5: right they do add to the vibrancy of the state.
• 18:32
  Speaker 5: But you've got to get the basics right and that's
• 18:35
  Speaker 5: where this government is failing. We've seen energy prices go
• 18:38
  Speaker 5: through the roof, up some forty three percent. We've got
• 18:41
  Speaker 5: record ramping in South Australia, despite the fact that the
• 18:44
  Speaker 5: Premier said vote like your life depends on it at
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: the last selection, and we've got young South Australians who
• 18:51
  Speaker 5: are seeing that dream of home ownership kind of be
• 18:53
  Speaker 5: pushed further off into the never never. And if the
• 18:56
  Speaker 5: government was deadly serious about getting those basics right and
• 18:59
  Speaker 5: getting the important and things right, then that wouldn't be
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: the case.
• 19:03
  Speaker 6: And that I'm focused on.
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: Let's go through some of those policy issues on your right.
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: I do recall four years ago ramping at hospitals was
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: the number one issue pushed by the Labor Party and
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: their union mates to try and make sure they wont government.
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: They've come into government and completely failed to fix the problem.
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: Here was the Premier on Sky News yesterday.
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: I've been very candid about the fact that despite all
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: the government's investments and effort that we've made in the
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: public hospital system, we have not been able to achieve
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: the results that we wanted.
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: So if ramping was the number one reason for labor
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: to get into power and they've failed on it.
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: Surely it's a reason to vote against them.
• 19:41
  Speaker 5: And this is what I've been saying as well, Chris,
• 19:43
  Speaker 5: in that you've got to take everything that the Premier
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: is committing to now with a massive bag of salt,
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: because he you know, he's great at the pr and
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: he's great at the media management, but he's really got
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: a big f when it comes to delivering. And so
• 19:58
  Speaker 5: that's what i'd encourage people to look at it.
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: And I can't believe his Health Minister hasn't resigned after
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: trying to defend a horrible case of hardship cause for
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: a South Australian Stephen King because of the ramping crisis,
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: using another Stephen King's email to defend it. The Minister
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: apologizes and still has the job.
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: And that's becoming what I think is a pattern of
• 20:19
  Speaker 5: behavior by the ALP.
• 20:21
  Speaker 6: We saw also with.
• 20:22
  Speaker 5: Monica Monica Wolstadt. She was someone who had her elective
• 20:26
  Speaker 5: surgery canceled on multiple occasions, and when she had the
• 20:30
  Speaker 5: courage to speak up and shine a light on her
• 20:32
  Speaker 5: experience in the system, the government came out trying to
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: discredit her.
• 20:36
  Speaker 6: Immediately and you know how they.
• 20:38
  Speaker 5: Did it through giving journalists specific medical information about the
• 20:43
  Speaker 5: type of medication that she was on. Good look, I
• 20:46
  Speaker 5: mean the medical information that you provide to your doctor
• 20:50
  Speaker 5: and those conversations that you have, they're absolute Sachris act
• 20:53
  Speaker 5: and politics and they're not for politics. But this is
• 20:56
  Speaker 5: a government that's much more focused on the pr and
• 20:59
  Speaker 5: the politics less so about the delivery and actually about
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: turning things around in South Australia.
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: Well, let's have a look at your other opponent, probably
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: your main opponent in this election, and that is one
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: nation they are currently polling above the Liberal Party.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: Why do you think that's happening.
• 21:16
  Speaker 5: I think all major parties need to reflect on this.
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: It's not just the Liberals, but I think one nation
• 21:21
  Speaker 5: will also have a bit of a hit to the ALP.
• 21:24
  Speaker 5: And ultimately, when people feel like they're being ignored, they're
• 21:28
  Speaker 5: looking for someone who's going to spice things up a
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: little bit. And there's no doubt that Pauline has been
• 21:34
  Speaker 5: around a long time.
• 21:35
  Speaker 6: She does politics a little bit differently, but you've.
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: Got to look at who is actually capable of delivering.
• 21:41
  Speaker 5: It's not just about spicing things up or having grievances.
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: You've actually got to have a costed plan and a
• 21:46
  Speaker 5: pathway to deliver, and I don't think that the minor
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: parties do have that.
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: We on are the issues that are driving this. Immigration
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: is the number one issue for One Nation. It's been
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: a constant of theirs for thirty years, almost thirty years.
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: Of course it's not a state issue, but do you
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: think resentment about record levels of immigration is.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: Helping to drive the one nation vote now? And if
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: you were.
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: State premier, would you be looking to see the federal
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: government drastically cut immigration.
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: Immigration is certainly one of those issues. I think that
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: people are looking to one nation over and at the
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: end of the day, I don't think it's radical to
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: say that we want to see immigration levels matching our
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: ability to build the homes because getting a home right
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: now is a big challenge. It's on the minds of
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: all South Australians in particular. So I think that we
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: do need to see a bit of a parody on
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: our ability or our need for skilled migrants in particular,
• 22:38
  Speaker 5: but we need to see that matched with our ability
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: to build homes.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: What about energy?
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: Another big one for One Nation is that they're completely
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: opposed to net zero. Forget about net zero, let's just
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: have reliable, affordable energy. Why wouldn't you adopt that approach here?
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: Because South Australia has the most expensive electricity in the
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: country and the least secure because it's rushed headlong into renewable.
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: Well, we've been really clear that we're putting affordability over ideology.
• 23:06
  Speaker 5: We think it's fine to have an ambition into the
• 23:08
  Speaker 5: future and we haven't changed our position in terms of
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: net zero. Where we have changed our approach though, is
• 23:14
  Speaker 5: that we are not for having one hundred percent net
• 23:18
  Speaker 5: renewables by next year in South Australia, so that's legislated
• 23:22
  Speaker 5: in the State Parliament. We think that we need to
• 23:25
  Speaker 5: have an eye into the future for sure, but you've
• 23:28
  Speaker 5: got to be focused in the here and now, and
• 23:30
  Speaker 5: at the end of the day, with power prices surging,
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: will power bills surging some forty three percent, we've got
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: to do something differently.
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: Would you support nuclear energy based in South Australia.
• 23:41
  Speaker 6: I'm agnostic to the source.
• 23:43
  Speaker 5: We need to make sure that we I mean, there's
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: there's fantastic technologies out there.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: Part of the.
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: Challenge with nuclear, of course, is that it's very expensive
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: and it's quite a way off into the future. But
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: at the end of the day, we're putting affordability ahead
• 23:58
  Speaker 5: of ideology because people are hurting. I was with a
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: business the other yesterday whose power bills have started six
• 24:07
  Speaker 5: years ago six hundred dollars a month and fast forward
• 24:10
  Speaker 5: to today's day and age at two.
• 24:12
  Speaker 6: Thousand dollars a month.
• 24:13
  Speaker 5: Now, that type of increase is unsustainable and we've got
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: to have a level of practicality about our approach.
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: What's a pass mark for your party at this election?
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: Is it just finishing with more seats and higher vote
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: than one nation.
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: I mean, there'll be varying views about what success looks
• 24:30
  Speaker 5: like for us, and I'm not too focused on kind
• 24:33
  Speaker 5: of crafting the analysis after polls close, and I think
• 24:37
  Speaker 5: that's what people are drawing me to do.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: But I don't expect to win the election.
• 24:42
  Speaker 6: Well, it's not over until it's over.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: What would be the worst case scenario?
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: Are you ending up looking like the Western Australian Liberal Party.
• 24:47
  Speaker 6: It's not over until it's over.
• 24:50
  Speaker 5: You know, you've got to take note of the polls,
• 24:52
  Speaker 5: of course, and it is a way for voters to
• 24:54
  Speaker 5: send a message whether that transpires on election day is
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: yet to be seen. Been around long enough, Chris to
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: know that the only poll that matters is election day,
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: and I'm going to keep fighting right up until six pm.
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: Just before you go there, I've got to ask you
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: an important question. I think one of the biggest problems
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: with Peter Malinowskis is that he's a Port Adelaide supporter.
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: Here's your local team, either a whisper. You might be
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: a bit of a West Coast Eagles supporter given your
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: brothers a performance there.
• 25:21
  Speaker 5: I I'm a West Coast fan, so they're my number
• 25:23
  Speaker 5: one team. Shunn And played there for eighteen years and
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: captain the premiership as well. But before he was drafted,
• 25:31
  Speaker 5: I actually I hate to break it to but I
• 25:33
  Speaker 5: was a.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: Port Oh no, oh no, that's terrible.
• 25:36
  Speaker 6: No, we've all got some flaws, I suppose.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us and good luck on Saturday.
• 25:41
  Speaker 6: Thanks very much, Ashton Hern.
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: They're doing a pretty good job in difficult circumstances. But
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: what's her fight? What's her main bone of contention with
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: the Malinowskis labor?
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: Government?
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: Is it energy prices, is it immigration? Is it government spending?
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: I don't know we will see.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: Got to take a break.
• 26:02
  Speaker 15: Now.
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: On the other side, I'm going to catch up with
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: Alexander Downer. I'll find out what he thinks of the
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: state election and also get his analysis of the latest.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: In the Middle East War.
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: Joining me now is former Foreign Minister Australia's longest serving
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: foreign minister, Alexander Downer in his hometown of Adelaide.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: It looks pretty good, doesn't it, Alexander.
• 26:22
  Speaker 17: It looks spectacular this evening. It looks really great. Makes
• 26:27
  Speaker 17: me proud to be a South Australian.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: It's great to be out here.
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: We'll talk get your thoughts on the South Australian election
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: in a moment, but I want to first up get
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: your update on the Middle East War.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: It is getting prolonged.
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: I think a lot of people are surprised by how
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: much damage Iran is being able to afflict, inflict on.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: The Gulf States. Where do you see it heading from?
• 26:46
  Speaker 8: Here?
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: Is Donald Trump forced with a situation we might have
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: to cut and run with the regime in place and
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: some of its military apparatus still in place.
• 26:55
  Speaker 17: I think most of their military apparatus has been destroyed
• 26:59
  Speaker 17: by the way think their missile capabilities. It's not to
• 27:02
  Speaker 17: say they have no missile launchers left and no missiles left,
• 27:07
  Speaker 17: but it's been very substantially diminished. And the same can
• 27:12
  Speaker 17: be said for drones. They're firing drones, in particular drones
• 27:17
  Speaker 17: now because they're running out of missiles at targets. That
• 27:23
  Speaker 17: will generate media coverage and generate, in particular in the West,
• 27:28
  Speaker 17: a sense of panic, and that part of the Iranian
• 27:32
  Speaker 17: strategy is working quite well, getting people to panic. But overall, no,
• 27:37
  Speaker 17: I think the Americans in the Israelis have done an
• 27:41
  Speaker 17: excellent job substantially suppressing any military capability. Iran has to
• 27:47
  Speaker 17: change the regime.
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: I've always thought that was heroic.
• 27:51
  Speaker 17: That's going to take if it happened, it will happen
• 27:54
  Speaker 17: one day, but it will take a long time.
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: Let's have a listen to what Donald Trump has said,
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: because he thinks his critics will eventually be silenced.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: Here is.
• 28:03
  Speaker 18: They're very happy that I'm getting rid of a nuclear power,
• 28:06
  Speaker 18: a nuclear terrorist, and as soon as that wars over,
• 28:10
  Speaker 18: which will be soon, your prices are going to drop
• 28:13
  Speaker 18: like a rug you watch.
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, the president they're very optimistic both about
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: fuel prices and the outcome of the war.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: I want to get your thoughts on it by other way.
• 28:27
  Speaker 17: He's right. Fuel prices, of course, will come down again.
• 28:30
  Speaker 17: In twenty twenty three oil was over one hundred dollars
• 28:34
  Speaker 17: a barrel. It's got down to like sixty two sixty
• 28:38
  Speaker 17: three dollars a barrel. It's about one hundred, one hundred
• 28:40
  Speaker 17: and twentieth barrel now.
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: But don't worry.
• 28:44
  Speaker 17: As the year wears on, the little oil price will
• 28:47
  Speaker 17: come way down as.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: Long as long as the fighting stops.
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: Now, I want to get your thoughts on the prospects
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: for those Iranian soccer players, especially the five women who
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: accepted asylum sort and accepted asylum ministry then change their minds.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: Do you think we'll see much of them in the future.
• 29:05
  Speaker 17: I don't think they'll be playing for Iran in the
• 29:08
  Speaker 17: next round. I think that's the end of their football
• 29:12
  Speaker 17: in careers, at least in the national team. I don't
• 29:16
  Speaker 17: know this for sure, but I'm assuming their families were
• 29:20
  Speaker 17: threatened when they applied for and were accepted as asylum seekers.
• 29:26
  Speaker 17: I assume that's the reason they've gone back to help
• 29:29
  Speaker 17: save their families. But gosh, I hope no ill comes
• 29:34
  Speaker 17: to them and we don't know.
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what we're all worried about. And let's hope
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: we get good news on that front.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: I want to bring you.
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: Back to South Australia and this state election here. You
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: write a column in the Adelaide Advertiser this week which
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: really summed up the issues for people, and you said,
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: if you like Labor, vote for Labor. If you want
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: to change a government, vote Liberal. That one Nation is
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: only a protest movement. They can't change anything. But it
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: seems that more people are going for that protest movement
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: than are going for the Liberals.
• 30:03
  Speaker 17: Well it's a protest though, and they can't form a government,
• 30:08
  Speaker 17: and they won't form a government, and they, as Pauline
• 30:12
  Speaker 17: Hanson herself admitted the other day, they don't have any
• 30:16
  Speaker 17: state based policies at all. They have almost no policies.
• 30:21
  Speaker 17: So you know, you're voting for nothing. It's a spoiler
• 30:25
  Speaker 17: vote and in the end it's going to be a
• 30:29
  Speaker 17: huge advantage to Labor that so many people who had
• 30:34
  Speaker 17: previously voted Liberal will vote One Nation this time. It's
• 30:38
  Speaker 17: a great win for the Labor Party. So I am
• 30:42
  Speaker 17: worried about it. I mean, I think people who are
• 30:46
  Speaker 17: socialists should vote for Labor, not for the Greens. I
• 30:50
  Speaker 17: think be people who believe in freedom and a free
• 30:53
  Speaker 17: society should vote for the Liberals, not for something like
• 30:58
  Speaker 17: one Nation led by Queensland MAVERI.
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: Now, the Federal Coalition have got plenty of time to
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: deal with this.
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: They've got the.
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: Pharaoh by election in May, sure, but they've got a
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: couple of years to the next election where they can
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: sort of deal with these issues and win back that.
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: Support from One Nation.
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: But the South Australian Liberal Party looks like being decimated
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: on Saturday.
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: You must be worried about its future in this state.
• 31:21
  Speaker 17: Well, it's going to be a tough day, I suspect
• 31:25
  Speaker 17: for the South Australian Liberal Party, but they will eventually
• 31:29
  Speaker 17: claw their way back. I don't think there's any doubt
• 31:33
  Speaker 17: about it. And excuse me for saying so, but I
• 31:36
  Speaker 17: think everybody who watched your interview with Ashton hern would
• 31:40
  Speaker 17: agree with me. She is a really effective political leader,
• 31:46
  Speaker 17: but she hasn't been in the job for more than
• 31:49
  Speaker 17: a few months, so she's come to the job I
• 31:51
  Speaker 17: suppose too late. But if she can hold a seat
• 31:55
  Speaker 17: and she can remain the leader, then I think they've
• 31:58
  Speaker 17: got a good path for avery.
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: All right, well, we'll see you Saturday night as part
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: of the Sky News coverage. Sadly you and I are
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: going to be at the Liberal camp, so it'll be
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: something of a duge.
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: I think.
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us, Alexander down a former Foreign Minister
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: of this great country.
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: We will take a break.
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: On the other side, we'll speak with the One Nation
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: South Australian leader and their star candidate, Cory Bernardi.
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: Welcome back to Adelaide.
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: We're here on the banks of the Tyrants, two days
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: out from the South Australian state election where One Nation,
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: the Queensland political force is moving south and dominating political
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: debate here. Their star candidate, the One Nation state leader,
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: is Cory Bernardi, the former Liberal senator.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: He joins me. Now, good to talk to you again, Corey.
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: You must be amazed, obviously pleased, but amazed by the
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: response that both you and Pauline Hanson are getting in
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: this state in the polls and in your campaigning around
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: the place.
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: Look I'm not amazed.
• 32:54
  Speaker 10: I am pleased, of course, because the people of South
• 32:56
  Speaker 10: Australia clearly want an effective and strong voice.
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: It's going to stick up for them after.
• 33:01
  Speaker 10: Being let down by uniparty politics for far too long.
• 33:04
  Speaker 10: All the problems that people are experiencing today are actually
• 33:07
  Speaker 10: a result of policies introduced yesteryear. It's a paradigm that
• 33:12
  Speaker 10: hasn't served this state particularly well and they clearly want
• 33:15
  Speaker 10: a fresh voice.
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: I want to be part of that.
• 33:17
  Speaker 10: I want to speak up for all the people in
• 33:19
  Speaker 10: South Australia and make sure we leave no stone unturned
• 33:21
  Speaker 10: or no one left behind and making this state great.
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: Your main battle for votes is with the Liberal Party,
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: but you're doing so well that the Labor premier is
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: lashing out at one nation as well.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: Here's Peter malinowskis today.
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: Pauline Hanson is traveling around on the private plane of
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: the richest person in Australia and that says to me that,
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: you know, it's not really sincere about the whole thing
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: being for battlers, but these hypocrites flying around on private
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: planes owned by the richest people in the country. That's
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: one thing, But having actual no plan or policy for
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: the future of the state, that, in my assessment, that's unforgivable.
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: Around with Gina rein Hart looking after the richest people
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: in the country. Not really a party for the battler's
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: How do you plead as the old politics of envy.
• 34:08
  Speaker 10: Peter is obviously desperate after four years not been challenged
• 34:12
  Speaker 10: by anybody, He's now recognized that he's going to be
• 34:15
  Speaker 10: held to account with his lousy policies. The simple fact
• 34:17
  Speaker 10: is I paid for a ticket to get to communities
• 34:20
  Speaker 10: that have been left behind. It's the only effective way
• 34:23
  Speaker 10: in which you can commute across this state. I went
• 34:25
  Speaker 10: to koober Pedi, but Peter Melanowskus has probably never been
• 34:29
  Speaker 10: This is really the politics of envy. The simple fact
• 34:32
  Speaker 10: is that ultimately we want to stick up for everyone
• 34:36
  Speaker 10: in this community in South Australia, to make sure that
• 34:39
  Speaker 10: they have a voice and a represented. Peter Malinowskus on
• 34:42
  Speaker 10: one hand says we've got no policies, and then he says, oh,
• 34:45
  Speaker 10: we haven't. Our policies haven't been costed. The bloke is
• 34:47
  Speaker 10: actually desperate and it shows well.
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: Both major parties here have failed at one policy, and
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: that is the hospital system and ramping.
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: What's your policy to fix that problem?
• 34:57
  Speaker 10: You know, it's pretty straightforward if you actually talk to
• 34:58
  Speaker 10: the people who are in the business and I've spoken
• 35:00
  Speaker 10: to Ambos about it, and they will say that what
• 35:02
  Speaker 10: we've got is a problem of repeat callers for ambulance systems,
• 35:06
  Speaker 10: and there needs to be more ability for ambulance officers
• 35:09
  Speaker 10: to say no, you don't need to go to hospital.
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: That's one.
• 35:11
  Speaker 10: But secondly, there are a lot of patients in the
• 35:14
  Speaker 10: hospital system who shouldn't be there, age care, mental health,
• 35:17
  Speaker 10: so we need to make sure the facility is are
• 35:19
  Speaker 10: there for them. And the third case is that there's
• 35:22
  Speaker 10: a lot of people in the system who are in
• 35:23
  Speaker 10: beds waiting to be discharged. They've been cured, they've been fixed,
• 35:26
  Speaker 10: they need a doctor to come and see them.
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: And Ambo said to me the other day, you can get.
• 35:30
  Speaker 10: Six or eight lounge chairs recliners into where there's one
• 35:34
  Speaker 10: bed currently. We could put people who are waiting to
• 35:36
  Speaker 10: be discharged in those rooms. They'd be perfectly comfortable, perfectly safe,
• 35:40
  Speaker 10: and we would then be able to treat people with
• 35:42
  Speaker 10: acute needs. These are common sense solutions. They've been ignored
• 35:46
  Speaker 10: by the government. Ambulance ramping is three times four times
• 35:49
  Speaker 10: worse because they insist upon listening to the bureaucrats or
• 35:52
  Speaker 10: other than the people on the ground.
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: What about energy you're opposed to net zero, But what
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: specific South Australian energy policity you have.
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: There's a renewables on the march in this state.
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: There's no coal fire generation left yet, the most expensive
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: power in the country.
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: How would you fix that?
• 36:07
  Speaker 10: They're absolutely related. Let me tell you renewables are unreliable.
• 36:11
  Speaker 10: We do need to build new power stations in this
• 36:13
  Speaker 10: state and we need to. I'm a free sort and
• 36:15
  Speaker 10: where I'm a free market here, all right, but I
• 36:17
  Speaker 10: think there is a case for government to build a
• 36:19
  Speaker 10: coal fire power station in South Australia because quite.
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: Now no one on Triangle.
• 36:25
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I think that would be the natural place for
• 36:27
  Speaker 10: it will provide lots of employment.
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: We've had generation there before.
• 36:30
  Speaker 10: But the critical thing is this private enterprise will not
• 36:34
  Speaker 10: invest because it's a moving feast for government. And that
• 36:36
  Speaker 10: means that where there's a market failure, government has to
• 36:39
  Speaker 10: intervene and get involved in it. And for the cost
• 36:42
  Speaker 10: of a couple of billion dollars, which is a lot
• 36:44
  Speaker 10: of money, we can actually provide some energy security for
• 36:47
  Speaker 10: this state. And let me tell you, energy security is
• 36:50
  Speaker 10: critical to regional communities.
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: I live in a regional community.
• 36:53
  Speaker 10: We have eight hour blackouts regularly. We have to have
• 36:56
  Speaker 10: diesel generators for our homes and our businesses because the
• 36:59
  Speaker 10: energy grew it is not fit and that's the product
• 37:02
  Speaker 10: of the green policies, the net zero pursuit. As you say,
• 37:05
  Speaker 10: it's the most expensive electricity in the country and it's
• 37:07
  Speaker 10: not delivering for us.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: Now, just one other issue.
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: You and Pauline both say, if you doubt the One
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: Nation policies, go to the website. All our policies are
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: there are very prominent Australian not in politics contacted me
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: and I followed this up. Looking for a defense policy
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: on the One Nation website.
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: It's not there, or a policy on the ABC. Now
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: these are federal issues.
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: But where is the one nation defense policy and what
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: we'll do.
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: With the age?
• 37:30
  Speaker 10: I'd suggest you take them up with the federal of course,
• 37:35
  Speaker 10: I've got a view on the ABC spends one point
• 37:40
  Speaker 10: two billion dollars attacking and undermining Australian values.
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: We're patriots.
• 37:44
  Speaker 10: We want to see Australia supported by the media outlets
• 37:47
  Speaker 10: and particularly taxpayer dollars.
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: And just on defense. It's it's actually.
• 37:51
  Speaker 10: Critical that we have a fit for service defense force.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: We don't. That's the big problem.
• 37:57
  Speaker 10: Everything's we're going to have submarines in thirty five years
• 38:00
  Speaker 10: or something like that. We're not allowed to have nuclear
• 38:02
  Speaker 10: power in Australia, but we're allowed to have him in
• 38:04
  Speaker 10: our submarines. We've got transgender service people that are getting
• 38:10
  Speaker 10: surgeries at taxpayer expense, and you've just got to go
• 38:13
  Speaker 10: what are we doing here?
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: Indeed, well, Cory Bernardi, as of Saturday night, I reckon
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: you'll have eight years in the South Australian Upper House
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: and a mate or two with you. We'll see how
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: it goes. Speak to you on Saturday night.
• 38:23
  Speaker 10: Now I have a few mates, Chris, thanks for joining us.
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: Cory Bernardi there, who's the former state president of the
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: Liberal Party, a former Liberal Senator for South Australia. He
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: will go into the Upper House as one nation's leader
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: in South Australia on Saturday night. The big question is
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: how many will go in with him in the Upper
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: House and of course also in the Lower House whether
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: they can win seats there. Let's catch up with Robbo
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: now in the Victoria Mark Robinson, the former chief footy
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: writer for their herald Son and Robbo. I'm out here
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: on the banks of the Torrens. You'd know this area well.
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: The Adelaide Oval is just across behind the cameras here.
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: Gather Around is only a month or so away, and
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: that's why I wanted to start on.
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: This issue, because the fuel crisis in the.
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: Country and all the doubts about fuel availability and.
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: The prices of fuels I'm told are already deflating bookings
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: for gather around.
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: They gather around could be ruined a bit, of course,
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: because most of the visitors are people who drive over
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: from Victorian.
• 39:20
  Speaker 8: Yeah, there is I've heard that as well, just on
• 39:22
  Speaker 8: the Great Bomb. We have to see what happens.
• 39:23
  Speaker 9: Ever, the crowds were down in opening round. I don't
• 39:26
  Speaker 9: know why we have it and round one they've got
• 39:29
  Speaker 9: to be a concern.
• 39:30
  Speaker 8: To the AFL.
• 39:30
  Speaker 9: They usually sprook record making crowds on these rounds and
• 39:35
  Speaker 9: it's down, so it'll be very interesting and they'll probably.
• 39:38
  Speaker 8: Blame the war.
• 39:39
  Speaker 9: I don't know why everyone else is any wrong in
• 39:42
  Speaker 9: this country. It's now getting blamed on the blamed on
• 39:44
  Speaker 9: the war. But we've got a cost of living crisis
• 39:46
  Speaker 9: which you talk about every night, Chris, and maybe affecting
• 39:51
  Speaker 9: taking a say of family.
• 39:53
  Speaker 8: Mum and dad and two kids. The footing cost you
• 39:55
  Speaker 8: two hundred bucks. They haven't gone to the moment.
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it is very, very expensive.
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: I spoke to someone yesterday trying to scrounge your ticket
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: up for Friday night here at Avlaidable.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: The cheapest they could get with it was one hundred
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: and ten bucks. That's pretty tough if you're trying to
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: get your family there.
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: Just on other footing news, I want to get your
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: thoughts on these Hawthorne players, the video released of them
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: being arrested in the US. These sorts of scandals are
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: the last thing we need in footing.
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: Ah.
• 40:21
  Speaker 8: Yeah, you're going to a scandal again.
• 40:23
  Speaker 9: It's two blokes got a bit drunk and they thought,
• 40:27
  Speaker 9: look at each let's jump up on this. I mean,
• 40:29
  Speaker 9: I've been in footy for a long time and Chris,
• 40:32
  Speaker 9: you've followed football. You love your footy. This is just
• 40:37
  Speaker 9: when I The coverage of this incident I think is
• 40:40
  Speaker 9: so over the top.
• 40:42
  Speaker 8: They thought, will jump on this is the ladder.
• 40:44
  Speaker 9: It wasn't smart, you know, it's not ideal, but there's
• 40:48
  Speaker 9: been a lot worse happening in football than that. But
• 40:52
  Speaker 9: Hawthorn chased to handle it like they did hasn't affected
• 40:54
  Speaker 9: the players. I played really really well last week against Esdon.
• 40:58
  Speaker 9: I tell you what, Chris, we're going to see that's
• 41:00
  Speaker 9: a scandal. We're going to have a more scandals this year.
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you what.
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: There is no doubt that it wouldn't even make the
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: news if they were at AFL footballers. But that's the
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: nature of the game and our interest in the players,
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: that's for sure. There's another one I want to get
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: you to comment on because I think this is a scandal.
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: I think it's a real problem and it upset me
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: at the time.
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: But I'm an Adelaide Crows supporter, so you can discount
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: anything I say about it. But Isaac Rankin will play
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: again for the Crows tomorrow night. After being suspended for
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: five games last year over a homoperbic.
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: Slur in the heat of battle. He missed the finals.
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: He was publicly shamed, but it's going to be great
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: to see him back out there playing tomorrow night.
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on how he's been treated.
• 41:48
  Speaker 9: Again, because he's a footballer and he's living under the
• 41:51
  Speaker 9: AFL rules, he sent a homophobic slur. The AFL have
• 41:54
  Speaker 9: tried to clamp down on that, and they're very inclusive.
• 41:59
  Speaker 8: Position. Take now five weeks he was worn.
• 42:03
  Speaker 9: But I'm not going to judge Isaac ranking on saying
• 42:06
  Speaker 9: something in a head of moment playing one game of
• 42:09
  Speaker 9: football by juje. Isaac Rankin is one of the best
• 42:11
  Speaker 9: players in the competition. And this Friday night against the Dogs,
• 42:15
  Speaker 9: you've got rank and fil Walker, Foggerty and up against
• 42:20
  Speaker 9: you know, Darcy Norton, bondeleg Down.
• 42:22
  Speaker 8: There a few others. I mean, this is an old
• 42:25
  Speaker 8: fashioned match of the round. Are you going, Chris?
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: I will be there, mate, I'll be across there this
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: time tomorrow night, and obviously I'm hoping for a Crow's win,
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: but I'm looking forward to seeing the bond. I haven't
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: seen him playing in the flesh for a long while,
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: and he's the best going around at the moment.
• 42:42
  Speaker 8: I would say that he's the best player in a competition.
• 42:44
  Speaker 9: Marcus fond the pellet, and he has been I reckon
• 42:46
  Speaker 9: for three, four, maybe even five years.
• 42:49
  Speaker 8: Max Gorn is certainly up there as well.
• 42:51
  Speaker 9: But you know you're talking about you had you had
• 42:54
  Speaker 9: the previous play. I'm talking about the election on the weekend.
• 42:57
  Speaker 9: I'm sitting there listening to him, he was he was
• 43:00
  Speaker 9: walking like a river up coach. We're going to do this.
• 43:02
  Speaker 8: We're going to do that. We're going to do this.
• 43:05
  Speaker 9: I don't think the South elections the biggest event in
• 43:07
  Speaker 9: Adelaide this weekend.
• 43:08
  Speaker 8: I think it's the Dogs, but he pros.
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: I think you're spot on, Robo. Thanks for joining us, Robo.
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: They're joining us from Victoria.
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: He's right. This footy match tomorrow night it's going to
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: be a ripper.
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: I'll be back with Tim and Mark to talk about
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: our whole range of issues after this short break.
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: Welcome back to the program, I mean Adelaide.
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: Mark Nicholson is in Melbourne and Tim Blair is in
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: his hideaway in western Victoria.
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: Good to talk to all of you tonight, guys.
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: I've got to get your thoughts on Pauline Hanson and
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: One Nation sort of taking Adelaide by storm. They this
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: is a city is as far removed from Queensland in
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: many ways as you can get in Australia.
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: But Tim, I suppose you're not surprised.
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: Absolutely not.
• 43:56
  Speaker 19: And this is this is incredible to see its repudiation
• 44:01
  Speaker 19: to both the mainstream parties that they've shunned one nation
• 44:04
  Speaker 19: for so long, they've shunned the interests that have been
• 44:06
  Speaker 19: expressed by one nation for so long, And the fact
• 44:09
  Speaker 19: that's happening in Adelaid just makes it all the more delicious.
• 44:11
  Speaker 19: The fact that it's happening in such a progressive heartland,
• 44:14
  Speaker 19: if you like, just makes it all the sweetest.
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: Still, Yeah, remark, you've traveled with Pauline, you've seen how
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: people respond to her. But I was out with her yesterday.
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: I've seen this over the years. Twenty years ago I
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: was at events in South Australia where there are more
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: protesters against her than there were people turning up to
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: hear or speak.
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: But now she's embraced so widely.
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: I think even people who don't agree with her respect
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: her staying power and her honesty.
• 44:46
  Speaker 8: Mate. Yeah, you're exactly right.
• 44:48
  Speaker 15: So we traveled for this whole time. When we're doing
• 44:50
  Speaker 15: the movie, it took hours to move fifty meters, Like
• 44:54
  Speaker 15: the amount of people that just wanted selfies to just
• 44:56
  Speaker 15: come up to say thank you. And even though even
• 44:58
  Speaker 15: those people that wanted to come up and and argue
• 45:01
  Speaker 15: with her or say that they didn't agree with her
• 45:04
  Speaker 15: on something, ended up getting her selfie anyway, Like she's
• 45:06
  Speaker 15: an absolute star and she's yeah, like, you're right, she's
• 45:09
  Speaker 15: got the staying power. I saw it there. I don't
• 45:11
  Speaker 15: watch that little Secret yesterday. You can feel the surge.
• 45:14
  Speaker 15: It's on in Adelaide, it's on in South Australia. It's
• 45:16
  Speaker 15: so exciting. Everyone's calling this a test for one nation.
• 45:19
  Speaker 15: I actually think this is a test for South Australia
• 45:21
  Speaker 15: at this point. Have you got your head screwed on right?
• 45:24
  Speaker 8: Do you know what's good for?
• 45:25
  Speaker 15: Come on, get around one nation because the flow and
• 45:28
  Speaker 15: effects are going to be so much fun. In the
• 45:30
  Speaker 15: by election in Pharaoh, Victoria could be hilarious. The federal
• 45:34
  Speaker 15: election it's a cat amongst the pigeons moment. It's really exciting.
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's fascinating stuff to watch. And as I said
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: on the program last night, that changed my mind seeing
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: the human reaction to Pauline Hanson.
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: Because the polls are.
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: Indicative, but sometimes one nation has failed to live up
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: to the polling that's been produced in the lead up
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: to people actually casting their votes.
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: I think this time it is happening.
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: And the point is when you listen to the major
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: parties here and Peter Mallonouscus is pretty popular, that hasn't.
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: Done a hell of a lot wrong.
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: Things are going along reasonably well for the States comparatively.
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: But Tim, I don't know what the liberal's key argument
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: is with him. What are they attacking him on. They're
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: just leaving the field open really for one nation.
• 46:19
  Speaker 19: Absolutely, and we've seen this federally. We're seated in other states.
• 46:23
  Speaker 19: This is really there's a whole layer, a generational layer
• 46:27
  Speaker 19: of liberal advisors, younger types I suppose, who were very
• 46:32
  Speaker 19: prominent in the policies expressed both the federal libstury in
• 46:35
  Speaker 19: the last election.
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: Look how far agot them.
• 46:37
  Speaker 19: Their basic advice is always go as close as you
• 46:40
  Speaker 19: can to labor without actually changing your name to labor.
• 46:43
  Speaker 19: It's not working, and they've left the let's just say
• 46:45
  Speaker 19: they left the field open to one nation.
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: Well, you're both enjoying the resurgence of Pauline Hanson. How
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: do you feel about the story in Victoria that just
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: sent to Allen might be facing a leadership challenge?
• 46:57
  Speaker 8: Mark Ah, They know, you.
• 47:01
  Speaker 15: Know, it would be incredibly intelligent and smart of them
• 47:04
  Speaker 15: to get rid of her for the election. But I
• 47:07
  Speaker 15: really hope they don't.
• 47:08
  Speaker 8: I really hope they don't.
• 47:09
  Speaker 15: It would be so much more fun to see her
• 47:12
  Speaker 15: go to the election because and get a report card,
• 47:14
  Speaker 15: because it has I can tell you right now she's
• 47:17
  Speaker 15: so unpopular. I can feel it. I can feel it
• 47:20
  Speaker 15: on the street. I don't think I'm stuck in my
• 47:21
  Speaker 15: little bubble. I can feel it everywhere. There is such
• 47:24
  Speaker 15: an appetite for change, but so many people.
• 47:27
  Speaker 8: She was never well.
• 47:28
  Speaker 15: She never went to an election as a leader, so
• 47:30
  Speaker 15: she's never actually gotten the report card. I'd love for
• 47:33
  Speaker 15: her to face the music. So I hope it's the
• 47:36
  Speaker 15: smart thing for them to dump her before they're going
• 47:38
  Speaker 15: into this and get a little makeover. They don't deserve it,
• 47:40
  Speaker 15: they deserve the report card instead.
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: It'd be pretty cynical to get rid of her now.
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: She should face the music. Thanks for joining us, guys,
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: appreciate it. Tim Blair and Mark Nicholson joining us from Victoria.
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: I just got some time to squeeze in some of
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: your reaction to what we saw last night, what I
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: shared with you from Pauline Hanson and One Nation and
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: Cory Bernardi in Adelaide. Pauline is a lot more popular
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: than people think. Australia is crying out for a patriot
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: to run the country, says Craig. Another viewer says, the
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: more they try to belittle One Nation supporters, the more
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: they will get their backs up. And another viewer says
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: people have lost all faith in the major parties. It's
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: forcing them to vote One Nation. It'll be in an
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: interesting election day that it will. And Jazz says, great stuff, Chris,
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: Pauline is resonating with a lot of people. I love
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: her authenticity. I think authenticity is key. Even those people
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: who disagree with Pauline can see that she's.
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: The real deal.
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: Been great bringing the program to you from Adelaide tonight.
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: Don't forget the election coverage on Saturday Night.
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: Here's Peter Credlin.