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  Unknown: You know I'm Ramble Paul.
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  Unknown: Just takes a little while to go through.
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  Unknown: Don't it?
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  Unknown: Yeah. I'm not even fussed.
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  Forget it. Just
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  Unknown: I'll just check you on YouTube.
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  Unknown: Well, hi, everyone, and welcome. It's Thursday
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  evening, isn't it? Isn't it? Just oh, hang on. I ought to really do a little thing here, which is this. There we go. Hi, everybody.
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  Just getting used to our new sort of setup here and sometimes I don't quite get used to it. Anyway it's the June 4 already.
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  How about that? June already.
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  How does that work? How does that work? Gone so quick. Anyway, we've got a good show lined up for you tonight. I hope. It's always a surprise to me too, you know. I never know quite what's gonna go on.
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  So we've got, guests coming up for hour two and hour three, I think. Anyway, here we are Paul English live one four two. Well, welcome to the show.
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  In a bit of a rough week in England,
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  a serious week in some regards. I'm sure you're what I'm referring to. Rough weather too.
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  But you know life goes on. We'll be talking about a few things in this first hour.
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  Well, hi everyone. Welcome back. We've still got some problems in. What is the problem I've got? Sorry about this we've definitely got a problem going on let me just check a few things I'm sorry everybody
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  it's a pain in the backside this at times in fact it's beginning to wear me thin.
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  Oh no I think we're still got we are going out right we're going out I have no idea why that's happening though, I don't know what's going on there let me just turn that off
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  cool
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  yeah everything oh good grief
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  what has happened here
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  Oh
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  dear me.
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  Right terribly sorry I've got a few Ducks to get in a row there's something very very strange happening. What is going on?
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  Doesn't make any sense let me just check a couple of things here.
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  We should be coming through nice and loud and clear here and we're not.
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  We've got something very weird going on.
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  That shouldn't be working like that maybe you can hear us I don't know.
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  Just hold on a second.
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  Something very odd going on.
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  What a pain.
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  Tumsy tumsy tum. I think I need more drinks I'm fed up with this I'm beginning to get exasperated with it
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  anyway I don't think we're going out on Rumble so
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  great and I think we are going out on YouTube
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  Unknown: What's going on now?
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  Patrick just said you need to boost the volume.
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  Unknown: Right.
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  You're Rumble. You're on Rumble when you're on Rumble. Thanks, Eric. You're not going out at all right now.
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  I've just not got you plugged in.
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  It's just something is not looking right, there's something very something very strange. Me just It's a trouble
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  Yeah
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  really seriously okay now let me just see if
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  something's going out here we might have just
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  Unknown: You're definitely on Rumble.
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  Unknown: That's cool what a cock up.
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  Unknown: Warren's just coming and said it sounds good on Rumble.
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  Unknown: Yeah but there's no sound going out on.
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  Is that doing that?
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  Unknown: Not right
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  Unknown: now. Now there is but it's terrible, he's feeding back into this
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  into here so I'm gonna have to keep that muted. Okay sorry about that everybody.
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  Right hang on this ought to be Jin
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  and you can only hear me talking to myself because Eric's here and everybody else so I'm gonna bring him in now.
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  I'll hang on just a minute, at least on the radio I think you've been going out over a rumble but Ivan Korsch just said fine on Food for Thought Radio and YouTube.
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  Yeah cool.
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  Hi everyone it's just that I'm graphically getting all the wrong signals coming back so this is
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  boring right
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  now then where's my performance enhancing drugs Eric?
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  Hi Eric anyway how are you? Greetings that's
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  Unknown: what I need today actually I have a bit of a day of it but still that's my yeah
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  yes
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  Well,
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  Unknown: yes. You you have had a bit of a day of it, haven't you? Because so everybody, this is Eric Von Essex. Hello, Eric Von Essex. Hello. How are you? Well, apart from modifying my classic car,
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  Unknown: it had a bit of altercation
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  with the side of my garage door and the door won't. So I've scraped the side of my classic car,
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  I'm
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  holding the tears back.
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  That's life,
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  I think it's meant to happen, it happens, so there's nothing I can do about it. I can't cry over spilt milk.
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  I said, Oh dear, what a shame. Not exactly in those words.
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  It's just a scrape down the side of
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  my wing of my car. Yes. So I might be able to polish the
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  polish it out or might be able to repair it. I don't know.
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  Color is the car? Color is the car? It's red. Red.
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  And whereabouts is the gash, the severe wound to the car? It's the wheel arch and it's gone down to bare metal I think so it's wheel arch. At the front or at the back? At the front because there's a turn around going to the garage on the
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  front left.
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  Unknown: Right.
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  Unknown: But
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  I
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  think actually,
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  you know, these things happen for a reason, so that's life, you know. I'm not as heartbroken as I used to be about things like that, and I might be able to repair it yourself. You
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  Unknown: but
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  Unknown: that's really I
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  Unknown: want my car back all pressed in and everything. Yeah. I know.
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  Unknown: I know. I know. So that's that's right. But I mean, I've had two two of my cars wrecked this within
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  about a couple of weeks. One, my window winder went wrong on the smart car, and when the garage repaired it, they cracked the side of the panel. So I've got a cracked panel on my smart car and I've dented front on the meme classic
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  car. So I'm not doing too well am I?
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  Unknown: No.
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  You and your been in the wars. You and your car car have been in the wars. Yes. That's right. Yes.
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  The the weather has been we always talk about the weather at the beginning Yes. Everybody after I've sort of cocked things up technically for the ten thousandth time. I can't believe it, you know. I spent all week setting these things up. Anyway, you can see there's a bit of fury inside me right now. I'm trying to get it out of my system. I'm finding it difficult.
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  But, yeah, it's as if the warm weather
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  was a preview of something that we're not going to get because
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  it's more like spring right now. It's been wacky. Yes.
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  Yeah, really is. Well,
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  Unknown: I went for a walk. One minute it's,
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  pretty
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  cool. Know, you think, oh, I'm not shivering, but it's a bit cool. Then suddenly the sun comes out and, blame me. I'm hot. You're spoilt for god. And then the sun goes in, and it's like that all the time, hot and cold all the time. And Yeah. When it rains, it certainly does come down. Really hammers it down for about a couple of minutes, then it dries up again. It's weird weather. It really is.
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  Not not very English weather, I wouldn't have thought. No.
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  Unknown: No.
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  Oh, look. I'm really happy now.
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  I'm very happy because I've just yeah. I am. I've just found out what was going wrong. Hang on.
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  Unknown: Got a bit of Yeah.
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  Unknown: Let me just check. That shouldn't have changed anything. Now
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  it makes sense. Yeah. There was visually something was completely blowing my nuts off. Sorry about that everybody.
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  I'm
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  happy now. I'm happy. I'm easily I'm easily disturbed.
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  Know, it's a bit like I've set that all up. Hang on. That's not in the right place and I
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  get a bit edgy,
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  it's pathetic. How old are you Paul? I don't know too bloody old anyway. Yes. So
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  yeah anyway I think just like you know Eric tonight we've got
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  Kizzy who might be going under the name of Karen I don't know joining us just after 09:00.
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  Unknown: Good good that's nice. So Kizzy
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  Unknown: runs a show on FFT on Wednesdays
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  six till seven. She had a jolly good show yesterday
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  with a Belgian lady who spoke English beautifully. Think I'm a bit fascinated by all these Europeans speaking English better than I I what I do.
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  Just like I But they do sound good though, don't they? Some of them. Anyway, she's a Belgian of she was a Belgian I think of of French sort of linguistic leanings as opposed to Dutch. So it was quite a nice lilt. Is she the
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  Unknown: baby lady, the lady, was she the midwife?
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  Unknown: No. No. No. Although I think she although she she she has got children
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  who are grown up.
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  Though I'm not really I don't really want to talk about that tonight. Oh, you never know. You don't know what's gonna come up, do you? No. You just don't know what's gonna come up. But no she's not the baby lady.
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  No not the baby lady no. Hi there baby lady. That's Victoria. That's Victoria. Yeah
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  Victoria had a sweet time of it last night was quite fun. I I hope I'm going to embarrass her suitably on radio, but it was quite fun. I think I mentioned it to you earlier today. I rocked up last night because the show sort of finishes at eleven and it was all silent and I
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  was getting all me. I'm going what on earth is going on? And I had a chat with her anyway. She ran out of things to say about ten minutes from the end because I think and I do understand this, I get this, and you're all maybe chuckling or going what what's going on or maybe you know you're slightly indifferent, but she I think she had two guests lined up neither of whom showed,
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  And these are the great challenging things sometimes with doing. This is why we need a, we need a bookings agency,
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  Eric. You know, and you send the boys around when people don't show up because,
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  you know, I go to a lot of trouble to set the show up and then cock it up at the beginning. It's an art. It's
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  a special So
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  anyway, I kind of felt for her, but, but not too much. You know, can't get into all that kind of stuff. And, yeah. So, yeah, Victoria was on last night, and, she got building up quite a good following, like battalions of midwives and things like this, but it's important stuff. It really is. So I'm I'm not trying to demean it at all.
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  And,
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  yeah, I just was, you know, I rocked up to listen the last ten minutes, and they weren't there, but never mind these things are gonna happen. I've mentioned it before here. Anyway, we're going out on WBN I think, know, even last week I don't think we even went out on WBN because I forgot to press another button. So I'm gonna try and employ someone to press buttons for me it pays quite well you know someone come around to my house and start pressing buttons at five to eight please and sort me out because
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  anyway yeah so
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  right let's let me get off that tack so
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  the weather's been a bit turbulent.
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  I like that word. That's right. Yes. Yes. It has, hasn't it? It's turbulent.
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  Unknown: It it is like sort of March, Wednesday, April showers all in one. Yes.
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  It it it really is. And the big problem is, I'm a bit of an outside person. I like to be outside.
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  Want You're an outsider, are you? You've been a bit of a lot. And
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  the trouble is you can't go out and do things.
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  But there's apparently, we've got a respite tomorrow. It's gonna be a nice day, so they say in the Southeast.
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  I'll believe it when I see it, so I might be out on the old bike tomorrow. You never know. But,
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  you know, just see how it goes.
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  But as for was it Kizzy who went silent, didn't bring out things to say? I was on a show once, and guests didn't turn up. And I thought, how am I gonna fill the next two hours?
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  I waffled on for two and a half hours on my own.
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  I think I was the only person listening in
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  because It's a bit like an old diesel engine. Once I start, it's enjoy yourself, though? Did you have a good time with yourself talking to yourself? Oh, I enjoyed talking to Michelle. I like speaking to an intellectual, you know.
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  Unknown: Just when you have an argument with yourself, that's the problem. You know. Don't you do that? I do. I sometimes the best way to work work problems out, you fool. No. I'm not. I know what I'm talking about. Are you alright, dad? Yeah. Yeah. I'm fine.
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  That's when you're walking down the road talking to yourself and people start to look around. That's the trouble. Oh, yeah. It's a bit awkward when you know that someone's actually heard you. So and I do at least I'm not so insensitive as to know as to not know that someone's heard me. So I just basically turned around to them and say, I'm talking to myself. I do it quite a bit. And then they smile and I said, it's very good for you apparently. I said, that's my excuse anyway,
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  but it is it is good to talk. Yeah. I I sometimes find talking things out loud clears my head.
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  I'm just looking at chat look I we're in we're using a new studio and that's why I kind of bungled a few things here and got a funny signal coming back wrong because it doesn't work exactly the same as StreamYard it's slightly different,
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  so believe you me if there's anything to cock up I'll probably do it But, at least the signal's going out okay.
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  One of the things that's good about this, we've got I've got all the chats from both YouTube and Rumble coming in here. This
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  pleases me immensely because the chats are telling me that we're going out on both of those platforms. So thanks very much for rocking up and bearing with these first opening few minutes as we we get a few ducks in the row.
• 17:52
  There's a nice, there's a little query in. This is slightly off beam.
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  It's also incestuous in radio land. Believe you me. America First PHL.
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  Hi there, America First PHL. It's a bit of a mouthful, by the way.
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  It says, hi, Paul and everyone. Paul, will we be hearing from Ria
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  Beau,
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  Red Pill Radio Sunday, this coming Sunday.
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  Fantastic catching you live. Well, I'm barely alive America first p h l, but that's great.
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  Yes, she is gonna be back. I don't know if I mentioned it last week.
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  She'll be back RiaBow obviously
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  on WBN which we are going out over right now as well,
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  but FFT Ready also picks up and relays her show live on Sundays eleven a. M. To three p. M. And she's
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  got all
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  she's very light financially
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  because she's really splurged
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  on some enormous
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  Macintosh box of magic
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  But she did, you ought to look it up, think on was it kick or somewhere?
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  She did a test stream the other night and sent it over to me. Sounded fabulous,
• 18:58
  way better than this. We're not we don't sound too bad, but she's she knows all this sort of audio processing magic,
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  and that's fantastic. So it sounded
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  brittle and
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  so I don't know how many weeks she's been away. Is it nearly a month? It's been quite a while. It's certainly it's at least three three Sundays that have been missed, so I guess that's four four weeks. Anyway, so yeah,
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  she's gotta be back and you've all got that to look forward to those of you that have got nothing to do on Sundays.
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  I just want to tune in for a really interesting,
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  breeze of a show, so it's always good fun. I don't know whether I'm on with her this Sunday or not. I've lost track of the weeks actually. I'm on every fortnight, but there you go. So that's a bit of an update there.
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  Unknown: Yeah. So we're just looking at our new toys here, aren't we, Eric? Because you're now using Rescreen as well for your show, aren't you? Oh, yes. Yes. And it takes a bit of getting used to, but once you do get used to it, it's it's pretty good. Yes. Because you can actually also see how people are seeing your show on mobile phone as well. You've got portrait and landscape.
• 19:54
  And I've just switched the portrait on, and I can't switch the bleeding thing on.
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  Unknown: Oh, there we go. Wait. Here we go. Everybody's interested in talking about kit.
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  Mike Manti says, what are you using? Kit wise, Paul. I just got a RODECaster. Bully for you. I don't use an external mixer. That's why I sometimes I probably need another screen. I've got two. Actually, I didn't tell you one of my screens blew up as well the other day
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  so I came down switch it on and it didn't want to play in fact it sat behind me and it's going to the death camp
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  for for screens that die
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  but I've got I've got another one up so it's not too bad. Think I probably need three and I could do with an extra arm actually or some more fingers that would be pretty good. So now I don't use the external stuff because I'm just gonna get covered in wires and I don't really want to do it but we managed to sort of bungle through as long as I anyway never mind this is all a little bit tedious for everybody else isn't it? But
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  all it's all part of growing up and being British or something like that isn't it? Isn't it Eric? I think so yes yes. Now from
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  from tiresome and frivolous matters
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  to a pretty serious one which no doubt you're aware of which is
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  this situation with this poor lad Henry Novak who was horrendous
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  yeah and I don't want to get you know you've we have to leave it a bit I've been aware of the situation Mark Collett by the way of patriotic
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  alternative
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  has been sending out messages about him for several
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  weeks if not months now since this happened on December the third last year in the county just next to me. So it took place I don't know 60 miles away from me right now.
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  We're in West Sussex, Hampshire's the next one along to the West
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  and
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  the response has been interesting to track.
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  We've got a lot of the sort of obvious responses
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  which are also appropriate
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  which is that the
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  behavior of the police was I don't know you see I don't want to start with adjectives because she can't end not good I'm just gonna use understatement
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  like very poor
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  it's far worse than that and if you've seen the footage it's harrowing,
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  there's
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  something tragic and really sad about the whole thing it's it's really really awful actually
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  and,
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  but the response has been,
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  quite
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  interesting at times. Some people have actually said the right things,
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  they really have said the right things so obviously the finger has been pointed at the police. You've no doubt come across a few of those things Eric, have you? Yes.
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  Unknown: Yes. Yeah. And there's a lot on the Internet about it.
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  But when you look at it, you know, nobody's
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  take what they call taking the knee and all this old twaddle.
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  Mhmm. It seems to be designed
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  to deliberately upset people, and I'm wondering whether it's all part of ideological subversion.
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  Unknown: Well,
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  you know, sometimes I think we're almost too clever for our own good and sometimes I can't see the wood for the trees.
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  That thought definitely sprang up in my head. There's also been the
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  intensity of the rhetoric that's coming out of certain people's mouths has gone up a notch or two,
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  as if we are they're using the event to bait us to do something but that said
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  the something that they're baiting us to do has needed to be done anyway for a long time.
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  And I don't mean it in a
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  physically confrontational way, but I actually believe that the powers that be want that. That's what I want
• 23:27
  Unknown: sure they are. I mean, I'm beginning to think that with all these wars and things that they're all in on it. Because what's made me think that? I mean, the Vietnam War was one was the first of the most weirdest wars,
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  because both sides were sort of negotiating
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  with each other,
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  and, quite a few of the vets noticed there were some odd things on where going on where they could have actually won that war, but they were held back for some unknown reason.
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  And then you look at all the other wars,
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  and,
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  you know, you just think, is this just plain genocide?
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  Because what's got got me thinking is you look at the lockdown,
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  apart from a few countries,
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  the whole world was in on it handing out all these jibby jabbies.
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  You just think, hang on a minute. The whole world's in on it.
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  Maybe the whole world is in on wars and things like that,
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  and it's all part of a kind of, genocide,
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  mass genocide to call the population.
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  I'm just it just seems a bit weird to me. I don't know.
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  Unknown: Well there's there's some kind of a step up in the agenda and
• 24:30
  all sorts of people coming out and half of what they say or quarter what they say is kind of getting towards what I think is the nub of this, and the other is the usual sort of covering sentences that they say,
• 24:43
  and
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  they're still not pointing the finger fully at what the you know I used to say this when I was a young man, no I used to say it a lot when I was on with Andy Hitchcock eight and ten years ago we would talk about we could talk about this in a very robust fashion and it's almost as if we're now being encouraged to talk about it in a more robust fashion, which I'm now suspicious of.
• 25:03
  Not that I don't want to, I do.
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  Although those sorts of words when you get like that, if you get slightly more volatile about it they're lost on most people's. People will still pull back, so I don't believe it's particularly effective to go in that direction. But I
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  don't know if I'd mentioned it here,
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  I used to sort of throw out this stupid example right.
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  Suppose you were in Trafalgar Square
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  or somewhere that you know,
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  and a
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  huge plane comes in and unloads
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  5,000 Tigers,
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  which which is quite a lot actually I don't know what the world population of Tigers are but you get the idea,
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  and puts loads of Tigers in Trafalgar Square
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  and you come back the following day,
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  what are you likely to see if there's been no law enforcement? You're likely to see lots of sleeping Tigers
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  and lots of bits of people all over the place right, because they'll have had a lot of lunch and supper and breakfast and everything.
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  And so
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  the parallel I'm drawing is that what's occurring is that people are blaming the Tigers
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  okay, but the Tigers just going around tigering,
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  that's what it does right, everybody knows that. The actual culprit is the people, force, the agency that put them there,
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  and some of the comments are beginning to go in that direction. I heard a guy, I can't remember his name now, in fact I've made a note of it somewhere because I want to go and get the clip,
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  on with Mike Graham, and I know I'm quoting him quite a lot, but that's because,
• 26:30
  as I said about 40% of it I think is really pretty good to be quite honest, and the other I don't really agree with because it drifts off into this sort of support for forces and agencies that we sometimes touch upon here in a kind of you know from a distance sort of way, and
• 26:45
  you
• 26:47
  can't cut these things out. People are self censoring I believe,
• 26:50
  probably for survival reasons at this moment But in the full unleashed unbridled communication
• 26:56
  is yet to be made
• 26:58
  and it needs to be and it's gonna come at some point.
• 27:03
  Were they began to somebody mentioned Fabians
• 27:06
  was really interesting
• 27:08
  really interesting guy that Mike Graham had on. I wish I could remember his name I've got a note somewhere but I'm covered in stuff and his
• 27:16
  interview with I think that was possibly when did all this stuff when did the trial start was it Monday it must have I think it was on Tuesday
• 27:23
  it was very very good he was the clearest and steadiest communicator and he addressed many of the topics that we touch upon here and elsewhere,
• 27:32
  such as the decline in moral standards in the country, the fact that we've been asleep at the wheel, and that there are agencies and forces that are organizing bringing all this to bear, and he mentioned the Fabians,
• 27:44
  and
• 27:46
  they have to be mentioned. Of course, they don't want them to be mentioned I suppose, but it's it's getting out there. It's on a much bigger scale than it ever used to be. I mean if there were just a few thousand people in England say ten or fifteen years ago that knew about the Fabians, there's probably tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands know about it now,
• 28:03
  as they're getting led you know deeper and deeper into this,
• 28:06
  this hole of going woah everything's all shot to pieces yeah everything is. The Fabians are the people that flew the Tigers in,
• 28:14
  aided and abetted by other agencies like Chatham House and the Bank of England and the globalists and whatever terminology you want to throw in there, all of these little agencies are responsible for this. The Koppers, the way that they behaved,
• 28:28
  you know,
• 28:29
  it's not good. However, I had to stand back, know, that immediate emotional reaction,
• 28:33
  you've got to be you've got to watch that. I think that's just a watchword to me. Don't talk out of that space cause you're likely to say something stupid,
• 28:42
  just got to calm down a bit. Why were they behaving that way? Because
• 28:46
  they've been trained that way.
• 28:49
  So the next question is who's doing the training?
• 28:52
  Who formulates the training right? The chief inspector does, right? Where does the chief inspector get it from? Keep going up that line.
• 29:00
  Unknown: Yes, yes
• 29:03
  Unknown: but country we're not allowed to I'm just playing this out so yeah a government minister did. Which government minister? This one and his team. Okay when did they do it? Well this whole series of decisions. Right let's go see that guy. Oh look I know this is not gonna happen. Who gave you that idea? Where do you get those? Have you got advisers? Where do they come from? It'll tunnel in to where it starts right?
• 29:23
  And you'll find that all those people even higher up the tree are all compromised as well that's my guess. I'm not giving them a get out a jail free card because none of them have the testicular 40 dude to walk away from it. They've all stuck in it.
• 29:38
  But
• 29:39
  that's why you know there's a whole line of events
• 29:42
  that come down to those policemen behaving
• 29:45
  not like any policeman that you ever used to know when you were a kid. They're
• 29:51
  They're gone spiritually,
• 29:52
  behaviorally, they're completely gone.
• 29:57
  That's what's hitting home. I think that's what's hitting home, Mary. Hang on a
• 30:01
  Unknown: Yeah, gone. In the early eighties, so I hope didn't mean to chime in there, but in the early eighties, if
• 30:06
  you look it up on the YouTube, is the battle of the bean field
• 30:09
  where the police went absolutely berserk. I'm not sure what year it was. I think it was '83 or '80,
• 30:16
  but I think it's '19 it's either '80 or around '83,
• 30:19
  and even the reporters were attacked,
• 30:22
  and they and they were shocked
• 30:24
  of what they were reporting, and that was ITN and people like that.
• 30:29
  So I think the police is not new,
• 30:33
  and I think there is a certain
• 30:37
  I call it a sharks feeding frenzy,
• 30:41
  where there's some psychotypes
• 30:43
  and the rest follow. And that's what happened in the battle of the bean field, and they were actually dragging
• 30:48
  pregnant women out of coaches and beating them.
• 30:52
  What sort of people do that with truncheous? People that have become unhinged.
• 30:57
  Unknown: There's
• 30:58
  no difference with that
• 31:00
  and what was occurring in Russia in 1917.
• 31:03
  It's the same intent.
• 31:05
  Yes right. It's exactly the same deranged intent that's taken place and they're doing it, the Koppers are probably doing it to survive their bosses and their bosses are allowing it to survive their bosses
• 31:16
  and there's this whole line and so you go, hey, is there nobody in this line that can actually think for themselves? And the answer is no.
• 31:23
  Unknown: Well, I've just looked it up. It's June 1 sorry. Didn't mean to cut across it. Yeah. Ahead. Go The battle of Beamfield happened on the 06/01/1985.
• 31:32
  That's when it happened. So I was wrong on both counts. But it was, in Hampshire,
• 31:37
  not far from you actually.
• 31:39
  Unknown: You know? It's it's Again, Hampshire. Really? What's what is it with Hampshire? I think
• 31:45
  it's funny you mentioned because I heard a clip about that the battle of the beam filled the other day where did I hear it? It might have been in a UK column broadcast or something the other day because I was on my show
• 31:56
  Was it on your show was it? Yeah. Right, sorry. I did cover it. Was on your because that radio reporter was called out there and he was describing it wasn't it? Yeah. And these people, yeah, so that's what we're kind of
• 32:07
  dealing with and there'd be some of the these interviews that have been held this week they've touched on the that's the nub of it right and of course the next logical conclusion is is it the case therefore that the people that are in charge of the major power centers
• 32:21
  are actually bringing this condition about? It's a good question to ask isn't it?
• 32:26
  Don't you think? Well that's the point. Are you the ones that are bringing this about? If it's not you then who?
• 32:32
  Right who is doing this? Who is who is creating a culture in the police where they no longer act
• 32:38
  as
• 32:39
  the what it says on the tin? They don't come up to scratch.
• 32:43
  I mean the fact is that we don't need them and you know you've mentioned this group and there are other ones springing up and the whirpy this same guy I wish I could remember his name it doesn't matter,
• 32:52
  was mentioning this he said look,
• 32:55
  you've got,
• 32:57
  the Jewish people have created their own Shomrim,
• 33:01
  the second issue I don't want to talk about it today, to defend them in a particular area right.
• 33:06
  But he said the English don't have one,
• 33:09
  said but they're beginning to get them and they said and it's the only way,
• 33:13
  and it is the only way and the you know the tragedy of this is there's no point knowing that when push comes to shove it all goes to dog shit,
• 33:21
  and we've known it for years and it's still gonna come to that. It's like it doesn't matter that you tell people that this is gonna happen and that there's something else to do because they never do anything.
• 33:32
  This is what occurs and,
• 33:35
  I'm not really talking about the peasants in the street
• 33:38
  you know they're always overpowered by these agencies who are so determined to get their way.
• 33:43
  So
• 33:44
  this, I just think that this is something worth discussing and keep exploring continually and for people to calmly and peaceably and coolly ask questions about, because I think that that would likely result in the best sort of response that we can get, but it
• 34:01
  is the foulest of situations.
• 34:04
  The English haven't all gone around you know like the George Floyd nonsense, I mean that guy was just a complete maniac.
• 34:11
  I mean the fact that they all fell for this gibberish is just nonsense. This is a guy that Floyd's
• 34:16
  a guy that held a knife to a pregnant woman's stomach isn't he? He's just a complete lunatic.
• 34:20
  Unknown: Think so. He's an 18 year old kid who was bright,
• 34:23
  Unknown: cheery,
• 34:24
  having a nice night out, and because some maniac Sikh armed with a ceremonial knife
• 34:30
  decides to have a hissy fit, he kills him. And then it you know, and you've heard the tape of his brother just lying through his backside to the police. That's what he's doing. We've been called racial slurs to which the police should say tough
• 34:43
  you know but they're not gonna do that are they and of course you're still getting this apologizing stuff. One
• 34:48
  guy he did say said look he said I don't think that racism exists it was very interesting what he said I don't know whether I necessarily agree but from memory what he said was he said look he said if you take any community and strangers come into it
• 35:01
  any strangers seriously you think about Eagleton right? Are you from around these ear parts? No, there's troublemakers in town right, all that kind of stuff. We don't know who you are. People immediately get defensive, why? Because it's sensible to do so.
• 35:15
  It is sensible to do so, you're hardwired to do it you go I don't know what these guys are up to, why have you just rocked up here? And there's that thing of course someone was saying well we are a multicultural society and we're not by the way,
• 35:31
  There's no such thing in my view, it doesn't exist. It's just another one of these Marxist terms to try and create the impression in people's heads that somehow it's all gonna blend together magically and brilliantly. It's Oh
• 35:42
  in complete contradiction
• 35:44
  of the laws of nature for all of us, both us and the other party or parties
• 35:49
  will and are intended to come to harm through this nonsense.
• 35:53
  Oh no, if we all just try and get on,
• 35:55
  why try to do that when there's a natural natural path for living that doesn't involve that, that works,
• 36:01
  or certainly
• 36:03
  is far far far less troublesome
• 36:05
  than this,
• 36:07
  which is going to achieve what exactly sir? It's gonna bring the whole world together, well the whole world is together, you know, apart from which do do you have chance to come visit all 7,000,000,000 people and form a relationship with them, Eric? You're gonna get to know everyone here.
• 36:20
  Unknown: Well, let's just say, they live in Cloud Cuckoo Land. I actually think what could happen
• 36:26
  is you may have these fifteen minute cities
• 36:30
  that are guarded by people that you pay for because it's got so blood so damn dangerous outside.
• 36:37
  So you're in like an area, like a fault
• 36:40
  of like your own prison
• 36:42
  because you're fearful of going outside
• 36:45
  your zone.
• 36:46
  That might happen.
• 36:48
  So we're actually, you know, paying security to look on cameras and things like that, if there's any strangers wandering around. The problem was, let's face it, the police are not solving crimes. I heard a statistic the other day, something like
• 37:01
  up in the about 90 odd percent of crimes are not solved and things like that. Because, I mean, they're too busy
• 37:09
  looking into people saying naughty things on social
• 37:13
  media. But that could happen. I mean, already
• 37:16
  around where I live, I know it's the same where you are, there are a few gated houses
• 37:21
  where you've got, say, about three or four houses, and it's like a gated community.
• 37:26
  And there's several of these springing up. Well, I think that might expand
• 37:30
  to a something like a mile rounded
• 37:33
  area,
• 37:34
  like, you know, what's happening in
• 37:38
  Jewish areas and things like that. Mhmm.
• 37:41
  It it could turn out like that, where people have their own police force,
• 37:45
  and they feel secure in these areas, and they have shops in these areas,
• 37:49
  and strangers don't go into them.
• 37:51
  I don't know. I I hope we don't go into that sort of, world,
• 37:56
  but it seems to be pointing in that direction. So we
• 37:59
  actually police ourselves.
• 38:02
  Yeah. You know? That's it. We actually put ourselves in our own prison.
• 38:06
  Unknown: Mhmm.
• 38:07
  Oh, well, we're doing it. Yeah. We're doing it. You remember that you remember that little quote from, that film that I played a couple of weeks back, Dinner with Andre,
• 38:16
  where he said people will build these cities and will become so attached because they'll have built their own prison and won't want to leave it. Spot on.
• 38:23
  You've reminded me of that. Yes. You've reminded me. Well, you reminded me of of that, which reminded you of it. Well,
• 38:29
  Unknown: it it it could happen. I could I can see it. That's right. I mean, I can see it happening.
• 38:34
  You know, because
• 38:36
  when you mix
• 38:37
  races
• 38:38
  together in such a huge way historically,
• 38:41
  it's always led
• 38:43
  to conflict.
• 38:44
  And I hope I'm totally wrong because I don't like violence,
• 38:48
  Unknown: you know. But you're not wrong. That's the problem. The reason why we're
• 38:51
  underpinning this, it's not even about that we want to be right,
• 38:55
  is it? It's not about being right It's and simply about what it's like an engineering situation.
• 38:59
  Right?
• 39:00
  If you put petrol in the thing and you throw a match in there it's gonna blow up is it? Probably.
• 39:06
  Right? And they'll say well it might not this time, no it will.
• 39:10
  You take a bet that it won't, I'm clear enough if you're gonna do that right, and that's what we're dealing with so I mean you know it's the ideology.
• 39:20
  I mean one of the they ended up talking as well about wokeism
• 39:24
  about what it is and you know how we've mentioned it I've mentioned it a long time that these people are literally
• 39:30
  this
• 39:31
  is not as an insult,
• 39:33
  it's as an analysis,
• 39:34
  they are mentally ill.
• 39:35
  They are, there's no ifs and buts about that. They are definitely mentally sick. They they have definitely allowed themselves to become mentally ill, and they're so deep into this space
• 39:46
  that you and this guy was saying exactly the same thing that we've been banging on about for years,
• 39:52
  you can't talk to them. I mean I've said this before you know you can say words they can come out of your mouth they can go through the body language thing of pretending that they've heard you but it's not happening.
• 40:04
  It's literally it's not happening there's no connection
• 40:08
  at all they've been so inducted into this cult that whitey their own people in many cases
• 40:14
  you know in fact nearly all cases is such an evil
• 40:18
  thing
• 40:19
  that they've become
• 40:20
  murderously dangerous to decent people
• 40:24
  in our case in our race.
• 40:26
  This is just true and this is this is kind of gobsmacking to use an English phrase it really is it's gobsmacking you go what?
• 40:34
  And you I mean I don't know what the background is to all of these people one of the things that we're talking about as well I think it was even earlier today
• 40:42
  was that many of them come from Oxford and Cambridge.
• 40:46
  Oh yeah? Many of them. They
• 40:48
  are what you would call academically
• 40:50
  of a high standard.
• 40:51
  I'm assuming, I guess that might still apply probably pretty soon it won't as it turns into a dung hole, but it's just an ideology center
• 41:00
  and
• 41:01
  you know that long march through the institutions has been unfortunately very effective for the other side in undermining
• 41:08
  the sort of morale and cohesion
• 41:11
  of a people. They've looked at all the sort of glue that binds us together,
• 41:15
  so you know all of our histories to be trashed up and this event with this lad is kind of it opens up the whole can of worms and it needs to be continued to be opened. We'll see how they restrain it and try and sort of pull it down. I saw some sort of idiot quote from,
• 41:31
  that chief puppet in charge of something mister
• 41:35
  Starmer
• 41:36
  saying you know some of these things are just trying to be divisive.
• 41:40
  What are you talking about things are divided
• 41:42
  you moron.
• 41:43
  But he's not a moron he's actually working for the other side and this has got to be pointed out he's not our Prime Minister he's somebody else's. These are not our politicians. They're somebody else's.
• 41:54
  Unknown: They're not ours. We don't want them. Oh, they're they're they're bold. I mean, even Churchill was bold. I mean, we know that. But I think they had a scheme in America,
• 42:03
  and Paul might know more or Patrick might know more about this. It must have been a good forty years ago.
• 42:09
  It's all you know, it's quite a famous thing at the time, but everybody's forgotten about it now. I'm showing the age now. And what it was, these and it was these delinquents, what they call juvenile delinquents, these kids that, you know, had robbed
• 42:22
  places and things like that.
• 42:24
  What they did
• 42:26
  is they
• 42:27
  had this scheme where they went on a wagon train
• 42:30
  across the desert,
• 42:32
  and they had
• 42:34
  qualified people who knew how to survive,
• 42:36
  and they had to survive.
• 42:39
  Apparently,
• 42:40
  when they finished this course, I don't know how long how far it was, they were completely changed people,
• 42:46
  totally different people, responsible. And what it did, it taught them responsibility.
• 42:50
  Responsible. Yeah. And this is what we need to do with these lefties,
• 42:53
  Unknown: teach them responsibility. We're gonna unfortunately have to do something really unpleasant before that.
• 42:58
  Unknown: It was case of
• 43:00
  mean, they showed you one of one of these,
• 43:03
  instructors.
• 43:03
  Blokes said, well, I'm hungry.
• 43:06
  He said,
• 43:07
  so what?
• 43:08
  He said, well, I gotta go hungry. Well, you bet. There's your there's your gun. There's food out there. Go and hunt.
• 43:14
  I'll show you how to hunt. Yeah. But and after about a couple of hours, this this kid was out hunting.
• 43:21
  And, you know, I'm sorry, it upset the vegetarians out there. And then after time and they were very stroppy at the beginning, but in the end, they learned how to survive.
• 43:31
  And that's what it is. It was character forming.
• 43:33
  And these, these chaps who were training them, I think they're ex military. They didn't take any lip. They didn't take any they were tough guys. And the way he spoke to this kid, you know, well, I don't wanna do this, so I'm hungry. Well, you better starve unless there's you you know, your food's out there. You gotta go and get it. You starve.
• 43:52
  Otherwise Yeah. You know? And that was it. And I think these lefties
• 43:56
  need a dose of reality.
• 43:59
  Unknown: Life is really like. How how's that gonna be arranged? They they've actually they are the playthings
• 44:04
  are they not? They are the frontline,
• 44:08
  you know,
• 44:10
  useless idiots that they've got a hold of. They're the people
• 44:13
  that Yuri Bezmanov was talking about.
• 44:16
  These will be the last people to know,
• 44:19
  these will be absolutely the last people to know and it's like you know we are facing all of the things that Esau artfully described back in the interview with Ed Griffin back in the late 80s early 90s. You're Where he said you can put the truth right in front of them and they will not see it.
• 44:35
  They can't they actually can't see it and you're going what?
• 44:40
  And this is because they're not in a space where they get any challenge whatsoever to their worldview.
• 44:46
  In fact if they do you've hurt their feelings so they shut down and then you're a racist or something. We're talking about dysfunctionality
• 44:52
  that is really, really dangerous. But that's why they're ill. Brought to need me to be sectioned. Sorry. I'm just gonna look at the sectioning though.
• 44:59
  Unknown: Yeah. Sorry. I didn't mean to talk I'll cross you there. I'm terribly sorry.
• 45:03
  But now I was going to say is that, Victoria, she might be interested in this. I was listening to a woman on YouTube, and I'd like to have her it'd be great to get her on the show. And she,
• 45:12
  I'm not sure if she's a midwife, but I think she understood psychology of children. She said,
• 45:17
  what's happened is,
• 45:20
  years ago,
• 45:21
  the mother would be with the child until that child is three, four, five, six, or seven for a long time, and there was a mother child bond, male and female.
• 45:31
  But she said, what's happening now,
• 45:34
  mothers are putting their,
• 45:36
  children
• 45:37
  into,
• 45:39
  nurse nurseries where they're brought up by a complete stranger,
• 45:42
  and she said it's psychologically damaging them. And when they become adults, they're psychologically damaged.
• 45:48
  Not all, but the majority of those that point to a nursery at a young age for a stranger to look after them because
• 45:55
  their
• 45:55
  nursery has to work to an agenda, a government agenda.
• 45:59
  And not only that, my personal view is all these injections and things that young babies have now, loads a cocktail of muck that's pumped into them. Mhmm. What does that do to their brain? And I'm wondering whether people like Kirstjarma and that are a result of this. I wonder whether he was put in the nursery when he was a kid. I wonder whether he was injected up to the eyebrow with with stuff.
• 46:23
  It just makes because then they're not normal. There's something weird about them.
• 46:29
  So that's something to add into the mix.
• 46:32
  Unknown: That's, you know? Well, they're they're like a computer programmer,
• 46:35
  a a computer programmer, it seems to me, in in certain ways, are they not? They they he talks in a staccato
• 46:42
  emotionless
• 46:43
  dead way. Yeah. And it's just about logic or something like that. It's not about understanding the moment.
• 46:50
  They've all lived
• 46:52
  that sort of political class and all the other attendants are civil service people, maybe not all of them but huge numbers of them, in a bubble. They live in a bubble. They don't they literally do not have a clue
• 47:03
  about the whooping woofing life on the streets and they don't want know because we are the peasants we're the plebs, they want to hang around with us. Look at me, I've managed to get myself out of plebdom,
• 47:14
  and therefore they become callous or indifferent to the welfare of others. It's not Christian in the best sense of that word, it's not. They don't have a Christian orientation.
• 47:24
  They're they have a communist one.
• 47:27
  That's
• 47:28
  really in very simple terms it's still the old battle between, we'll use the modern communisms and Christendom. That's really what it is, and this is an aspect of it. So when they're trying to sort of bottle up these arguments that's all part and parcel of the process.
• 47:41
  It's a very,
• 47:44
  it's just I think normal people and I'm gonna go on the basis that most of us still are hanging on to our normalcy as much as we possibly can,
• 47:53
  and are unlikely to ever be convinced at all by any of their supposed pathetic arguments,
• 47:58
  that's what they're called, and we can't be convinced of them because they're unsound, they're not based
• 48:04
  on what's actual. They're based on
• 48:07
  their reality, which is a different thing. I I think there's a a very big difference between reality
• 48:13
  and actuality. Actuality is what's actual. It's proven in a laboratory, and you you stress test these things. And and it the more you stand in it the saner the less insane you will be.
• 48:24
  But reality is your projection onto the world and we do that all the time because you have dreams and you draw them and you put buildings up and that's how you realize something.
• 48:33
  But it's not what actually is and these people don't know what they just live in the we've got this great dream. This guy was talking about it exactly you know we've talked about this many many times
• 48:44
  that they have got this
• 48:46
  knight in shining armor syndrome I'm gonna save the world and if you as a person point out that their actions contradict their aims, in other words you know communism is basically rivers of blood to create nirvana or whatever is the thing they're gonna create, They go nuts they want to kill you.
• 49:03
  They say oh you're against this idea well yeah for these reasons but those are not good reasons. I mean what they say about communism you know we've just not done it right yet. What we're gonna have to kill everybody? I think that's really it. Yeah you're gonna have to kill billions to make it work. Well then surely it's the thing that's not can't work then what's the point of it?
• 49:21
  You're
• 49:23
  robbing them you're robbing them of their self assigned sainthood.
• 49:27
  I'm Saint Bob, I'm Saint Mary, I'm saying this, I'm gonna save everybody look at me I'm so normal,
• 49:34
  I'm so moral and ethically of a much higher standard than you you wretch, you racist
• 49:39
  and all that kind of stuff, and I don't think there's any
• 49:42
  way of disabusing them of this madness because I've got no evidence to suggest that there is. I don't know about you maybe
• 49:48
  you know, oh let's be patient, let's be kind with them forever.
• 49:51
  Really?
• 49:53
  Really? You know there's a phrase that God's patience God's patience is almost
• 49:58
  infinite
• 49:59
  but not quite and
• 50:01
  I think you
• 50:03
  know
• 50:04
  maybe we're just being angled up for a certain thing you know I was just saying a bit earlier as well about what time are we ringing it oh yeah we're okay for a bit I was talking about
• 50:13
  rhetoric and stepping up. Look this is a Rupert Loh thing from about a month ago,
• 50:18
  two months back early April, but this is this is where some of these things are going. There's not a criticism I'm just observing this right? He says I read how a failed Pakistani asylum seeker who repeatedly abused and raped an eight year old girl has been jailed for fifteen years.
• 50:34
  He abused her in her own home and bedroom.
• 50:36
  She was told that if she told anyone she would die.
• 50:40
  I wouldn't deport him.
• 50:42
  Under a Restore Britain government with the British people's approval, the death penalty would be reintroduced for such evil and undeniable
• 50:49
  crimes. He would be put to death. If you rape a young child you do not deserve to live. It's that simple. Now I agree. However,
• 50:58
  there is I think there's an additional thing. What, I was thinking about it, was reading it, I thought who brought him here?
• 51:04
  Who brought this tiger here into an environment
• 51:08
  unfit for his way of life? Whoever he is right? I don't have a name so I'm not trying to do that.
• 51:15
  You know these lorry these guys that bring them over they get paid a lot of money? Yeah yeah yeah.
• 51:20
  If if one yeah. Of the
• 51:22
  Unknown: Well they need to hang as well don't they? But then it's government behind it as well because So apparently they need to hang. Well that's right. It's quite treason.
• 51:30
  Unknown: Here. This young girl, she's not the only one is she? There
• 51:35
  are thousands, are probably tens of thousands this stuff is going on all the time
• 51:40
  and
• 51:41
  you know do we have the means the ability to identify them and then administer the sentence
• 51:46
  and does anybody got the fortitude to do it And I think we do it's just that we're all holding back but there's that phrase isn't a good you know what is it hard men make for good times
• 51:57
  good good times make for soft men
• 52:00
  soft men make hard times
• 52:02
  Hard times make good men. It goes around in a big circle where really in the we are governed by well, they're not even men.
• 52:10
  They're not men anymore.
• 52:12
  Unknown: There
• 52:14
  is one point though that it should be quick because not have people
• 52:18
  like happening in America
• 52:20
  that's on death row for years and years and years. No.
• 52:24
  It's the they they go straight out the courtroom,
• 52:26
  Unknown: straight to the straight to the gallows. There's no no missed about. Well, I don't you know, I I remember talking to someone years ago about it, you know, like,
• 52:35
  I think I I could be wrong about this, but I think in Islamic law, if you thieve, you get your hands cut off. Right?
• 52:41
  Don't you? Yes. I'm
• 52:43
  not sure I don't know I really don't know. Well I think you do in certain parts, so why does that law not apply?
• 52:49
  Whose law are they under? This is the big question whose law?
• 52:53
  And this is where we've gone wrong because the only solution for us is God's law.
• 52:57
  Not not as a sort of I think we ought to do God's law it's an absolute cause and effect.
• 53:03
  We don't live under God's law that we're only gonna get more of this. This is the reason why we're getting it.
• 53:08
  It's
• 53:09
  really and it's actually
• 53:12
  you know I was in a fantastic interview as well earlier this week
• 53:18
  on Dellingpoll
• 53:21
  with a guy whose first name I've forgotten
• 53:24
  Anyway surnames Fink which doesn't sound that great but he's very very knowledgeable about scripture and he's got a sort of checkered past but he's he's a very studious guy
• 53:32
  and he's written some tremendous stuff and they were having a tremendous exchange at one point where James Delingpole was kind of running up against his view of what Christianity is,
• 53:42
  against what it actually is,
• 53:44
  what it actually is and it ain't it ain't all love and light
• 53:49
  and it's a biggie and so the reason one of the reasons I think one of the causative reasons why God's law is not applied is that the Bastions that purport to do it the churches
• 53:59
  are a joke.
• 54:01
  They don't you know, they don't even read their own manual, we will build we are utterly lost without the application of the law. It exists, everybody knows it, it's like when you say well
• 54:12
  everybody knows what's right and wrong, Well, obviously not. This guy with armed with a 12 inch blade didn't know what was right and wrong from our perspective, did he?
• 54:20
  And you know,
• 54:22
  the Bible addresses that as well. If you allow the aliens to live amongst you, they will become the head and you'll become the tail. That's simple. Should be taught to all school children. Alice Gorgeous has come up with a a good one here. Thanks nimble horse it was William Fink. Okay thank you nimble horse I just forgotten his first name.
• 54:38
  Know
• 54:39
  Dellingpoles
• 54:40
  gears grinding as he's sort of trying to absorb some of the things that Fink is I knew all of the stuff that Fink's talking about and we don't do shows on it here I'd love to at some point it's probably for a very niche
• 54:52
  market audience
• 54:53
  at this particular time but it's absolutely vital
• 54:57
  I mean if
• 54:59
  we ignore it it's just gonna keep going, we can't ignore it, we have been doing for a long, we've been drifting away and drifting away and now you end up with all these puddings in charge, toleration of this, oh we've got to tolerate this and we've it, no we don't,
• 55:12
  You don't you we don't need to tolerate anything and then people wonder why this poor lad gets stabbed.
• 55:18
  It's a whole series of events and it's to do with this sort of listless
• 55:21
  concern that these people have. Of course they've all been corrupted courtesy
• 55:26
  of the money,
• 55:27
  Unknown: The money has got Oh, in in China,
• 55:30
  the family have to pay for the execution
• 55:33
  if someone's found guilty. And Alice Gordon says we can't have hanging under a corrupt government.
• 55:40
  This is true. Yeah. It would be I I think it would be a what I call a handover government
• 55:46
  that cuts bureaucracy
• 55:47
  everywhere and hands
• 55:49
  power back to us,
• 55:52
  the people. I'm sick of bureaucracy or that is making life
• 55:57
  impossible.
• 56:00
  But I I I think that it
• 56:03
  it just needs to be as we are as we said earlier on earlier shows,
• 56:08
  the,
• 56:08
  party that could never be elected.
• 56:11
  That's what we need is the party that can never be elected.
• 56:14
  But,
• 56:15
  yes,
• 56:17
  Mike Mantis says we are back to natural law.
• 56:21
  Unknown: That's that is part, I would assume, of natural law. Yeah. Look, the death penalty thing, someone said I don't believe in the death penalty. I completely I do understand. Right? We are a different You
• 56:32
  could say we're a different people to those times.
• 56:35
  Yeah but I think it's a
• 56:37
  it's a much bigger discussion
• 56:39
  I think there's a lot more to it than that.
• 56:42
  You know I mean in this particular example that just going back to that post that Lowe had put up,
• 56:50
  I think it should be deportation not only for him but for his entire extended family. If you have got a criminal in your family that does acts like that the whole lot go. What 300? Yep
• 57:00
  immediately
• 57:01
  that's it.
• 57:03
  Because you've got to send out a message to everybody else that we're not a pushover, and we are a pushover. That's why that lad died.
• 57:10
  Unknown: Well, also a pushover. We're a pushover. We're soft. The third world's empty near prisons in the psychiatric wards. This is what happened with Cuba.
• 57:20
  The America,
• 57:22
  Florida especially,
• 57:25
  welcomed
• 57:26
  Cubans with open arms,
• 57:28
  and Castro
• 57:29
  took advantage of it and entered these prisons and lunatic silence and sent them to America.
• 57:34
  Unknown: Well, did over here, they? Didn't they do it here about eighteen months, two years ago? They said, oh, the prisons, they're so full. We're gonna let these guys out. They should be locked up for for all these years. No. No. But the third world is emptying their prisons and psychiatric wards, which is a drain on their nation, and sending them here. Yep.
• 57:50
  Unknown: So they're like it's it's it's this is unbelievable.
• 57:53
  This is why we got so these burdensome
• 57:56
  Unknown: things going on. Like that. It's the tactics of the enemy.
• 58:00
  It's the tactic. It's warfare
• 58:02
  undercover by stealth,
• 58:04
  and everybody's got to keep tolerating things. And whilst they keep tolerating this stuff, right, which you can't, nobody's I don't know what it means to tolerate something it's absolutely ridiculous. I mean when you break it down it says there's this appalling thing going on, there's this thing that's really against the law that I don't like that makes me feel bad,
• 58:23
  and so I'm just gonna allow it to keep chewing me up.
• 58:27
  That's not sane,
• 58:28
  it's not it breeds
• 58:30
  unsaneness.
• 58:31
  Unknown: Hello Paul hi. Hi Paul. Hi I have a question on the death penalty.
• 58:36
  If anyone's against the death penalty,
• 58:39
  if they were given an opportunity to decide whether somebody should be put to death or somebody whose
• 58:46
  life should be spared
• 58:49
  and
• 58:50
  they
• 58:51
  take another life,
• 58:53
  would that person that decided to set them free
• 58:57
  pay with their own life
• 59:00
  because it was their decision that cost another
• 59:03
  death?
• 59:04
  Unknown: I think King Solomon would view it like that. I think it's a great question, Paul. Who's liable here? Think so.
• 59:11
  It's a fantastic question.
• 59:13
  Is People are not asking enough questions. Absolutely.
• 59:17
  Unknown: But I think for people like politicians
• 59:19
  who could be committing treason, I think but put, instead of hanging them with a with a with a solid rope, use a bungee rope over a sewage farm, and you can actually have bets of how many times they bounce. That'd be much more fun. Keen on it, Eric. Yes. As long as it's done in a certain carry on type fashion, and I don't mind.
• 59:37
  You know? And and it would be like Jim Birits and Knockout, that show, you know, where they used to have these funny games. And now, you know, they could have here he goes. And, oh, he's believe he's gone up and down. Oh, he's in the sewage. He's out again. Oh, he's down again. He's out. Okay. You see how many you know? And you could actually have scientific
• 59:54
  people saying, you know, well, they might bounce five times. It could be six times. We don't know. Oh yes, they're dancing on air now, there we go. Know, it'd
• 1:00:03
  Unknown: be educational as well. I think I think you've you've created a job a post for yourself. Anyway, we're coming to the end of the first hour.
• 1:00:11
  I'm hoping we're gonna have a guest. Kizzy's due to join us, not Victoria Eric just to let you know it's not the Kizzy's
• 1:00:18
  due to join us after the break.
• 1:00:20
  A little backstory to this I've been approached over the past few weeks by Mr and Mrs English no relation I don't think we've not checked it out yet anyway
• 1:00:29
  and they are for the restoration of the nation in broad terms and probably an awful lot more, but they keep producing songs. How I don't know,
• 1:00:38
  and this is quite sort of
• 1:00:40
  well modern I suppose, not the sort of thing you would expect me to play, but I really think it's fantastic that people are knocking themselves out doing this stuff and we've got a couple of more I've got one more track coming up from another band that approached Mark recently. Anyway we're gonna play this it's called the rights of the English it runs for about three and a half minutes I think it does something like that
• 1:01:01
  And then we're coming back after the break here on WBN
• 1:01:04
  and FFT radio and Rumble and YouTube and everywhere
• 1:01:07
  that good people congregate for a good bit of chat. Here's a song. We'll be back after this.
• 1:01:12
  Unknown: The rights of the English realm. The
• 1:01:19
  rights of the people. England
• 1:01:24
  stands
• 1:01:28
  unshakable.
• 1:01:36
  We've got the right to stand,
• 1:01:39
  defend
• 1:02:53
  laws suspended,
• 1:02:55
  illegal
• 1:02:56
  acts.
• 1:02:57
  The story
• 1:02:58
  ended,
• 1:02:59
  petition free.
• 1:03:00
  No fear inside.
• 1:03:03
  Ancient rights,
• 1:03:04
  we still abide.
• 1:04:42
  Unknown: And that was,
• 1:04:44
  oh, that was a bit of a whoosh there, wasn't it? It caught me out. That was mister and missus English,
• 1:04:51
  the rights of the English realm, raise the colors.
• 1:04:54
  They've got a channel on YouTube,
• 1:04:56
  and I keep getting stuff through from them. Got another cracker today, but it was seven minutes long, and I thought a little bit long. Eric, I just had pictures of you in a disco there dancing to that. What do you think? I like that. That was good, wasn't it? We yeah. I was, you know, I was I was popping away like that. Yeah. It's good. Was. Yeah. Yeah. It's good. They they know their stuff. It's certainly very interesting.
• 1:05:17
  There's a lot of fantastic people out there just doing really, really good things. Did you see that? I might mention it last week, it's over on the FFT radio site, I think we've put it up in the video section. There's four vegetables sitting around a table talking about stuff. Have you seen it? It's fab. Absolutely. I don't know who knocked it out. It's just really good. One of them they've all got things written on the on their mugs and one one of the mugs says beat rooting.
• 1:05:43
  Now we need a maybe I mentioned it last week we need a show called beat rooting it'd be really good. Beat rooting.
• 1:05:52
  Anyway, here we are in hour two,
• 1:05:54
  and I did mention that we'd be having another guest swelling our ranks, which is fantastic.
• 1:06:00
  And Kizzy, are you with us this evening? Are you here? I I am. I'm a bit out of breath, though, actually.
• 1:06:06
  Unknown: What have you doing? Dancing around the kitchen to that amazing track. Was Did you? Brilliant. It was brilliant. I felt yeah. I loved it. I absolutely loved it. I didn't think you'd be playing stuff like that. It was like a rave. It's great.
• 1:06:18
  Unknown: Yeah. I'm just a bloke. I'm really old fashioned and a bloke. They're They're pushing me all over, but when people knock stuff out and do good stuff Yes. We gotta play it. It's just fantastic and they're doing a lot of good work. Also,
• 1:06:32
  I think they're listening because I let them know. Said, look, we're gonna play at 09:00 and I thought you might like it. I thought there's a groovy one. That's a sort of disco y type. It is disco. I'm a bit of a disco diva. Yeah. Love I disco bird, are you? I I mean,
• 1:06:45
  Unknown: it was a rave. I think it's a bit of a rave one, wasn't it? Well, I don't know. It was just good. Whatever. It had a great rhythm, and the words were bloody brilliant. Good on them. Yeah. Good on them, mister and missus English. It's a hit, mister and missus English. Yeah. I'm not really sure. Go look them up on YouTube. Yeah. They're on YouTube. They've got a channel, mister and missus English. I think it's that channel or playlist or whatever. You'll find them. We'll still get more expositions. Up. Yeah. Yeah. You found it. Definitely on there. Yeah. Yeah. Found it. Excellent. Yes. I'm fantastic. Isn't it great though that that people are you know, we're trying to get this message out through different means, different mediums, and and you've got people writing brilliant music and just I just love it because there's quite a few people doing this now, isn't there? Just yeah. Putting it into into into song.
• 1:07:28
  Unknown: Doing it well. Way we can, using our talents. Using our talents. And that's the thing. And I think the days of protesting and walking around, we shall not be moved, they're gone. They're long gone. Yes. And I think that my
• 1:07:41
  view is that we gotta laugh.
• 1:07:43
  Laugh at the powers of hate and keep on laughing at them. Yeah. Because
• 1:07:48
  that's one thing
• 1:07:49
  the demonic powers don't like. They don't like us being happy. They don't lock it up them, do they? They really don't lock it up them. No.
• 1:07:58
  Unknown: Do not. Can I just say, sir, I came on the tail end of your conversation? You were talking about that young lad. Was it Nova? Is it Nova or the guy Henry Nova. Yeah. And the sort of fallout this week, how everything's kicked off in the media as well. Yeah. We were talking about that, Giz. It's because something something came on on I was on I'm not often on Facebook, but I was on Facebook today for some reason or other. And somebody, one of my friends, in quotation marks, although I don't do know this person, he'd made a comment saying, false flag. False flag. Do remember the oh god. Was it George, somebody that was Floyd.
• 1:08:32
  Yeah. Thank you. With the knee and all that, and and that started the Black Lives Matter movement and all that kind of stuff. I I don't know if it's true or not. I mean, I I it's absolutely evil what has happened and if if it's true and what have you. But somebody said it's it's another means to divide us against it's a Sikh chap, wasn't it, that that did the deed? Mhmm. Yeah. So I just thought I'd chuck that in there. I don't know if it's a false flag. Yeah. Don't know. I don't think it's a false flag, but I think it was probably a 30 commas arranged to cause Yes. Aggression
• 1:09:03
  Unknown: and anger because
• 1:09:05
  whilst we are fighting
• 1:09:07
  like this, we're not watching what the government are doing. No diversion. It's
• 1:09:12
  a misdirection.
• 1:09:13
  They do it all the time.
• 1:09:15
  Unknown: I guess in part it might mean what they mean by who
• 1:09:19
  they're referring to when they met when they use the word us
• 1:09:23
  because
• 1:09:25
  you see I don't see it like that. I think that the nation is divided anyway, it's just that the media are making out that it isn't, but it is. Not because I say so, but because it actually is.
• 1:09:35
  And
• 1:09:36
  it will remain that's why this event took place, and it's why it's got a particular sort of tone to it,
• 1:09:42
  the way that they're dealing with it afterwards. Mean it's just
• 1:09:45
  like I was saying earlier, because if you start using adjectives to describe it you're gonna run out of them, there's no point even starting, it's that appalling.
• 1:09:53
  This is
• 1:09:54
  like a tragedy, it's like something just so bad you think what what was the whole sort of the whole series of errors and everything and of course there's been a lot of emotional communication about it people reacting
• 1:10:05
  all over the place understandably,
• 1:10:07
  but the bottom line is that this is
• 1:10:10
  to me anyway this is a symptom of the wider war and Henry Novak has become
• 1:10:16
  a tragic victim of this situation
• 1:10:19
  you know we're saying who's really responsible we know that there's a guy that actually wielded the knife We know that. We know that someone said that it's okay to carry these ceremonial knives, that there's an exemption from it. Why?
• 1:10:32
  Unknown: Why? Do we does that mean we get exemptions for carrying swords? That well, do know they're they're allowed they're allowed to carry them at school because of for religious reasons. They're allowed to carry these daggers at school if it's if they've taken the religious oath, whatever it is. And I posted that. I shared that with a friend of mine and who is, like, on the on the cusp of what's going on. She's a bit in denial of what's happening, you know, with our Right. Coastal invasion and stuff like that. Anyway, I just casually sent it to her, and she was shocked and horrified
• 1:11:01
  and said, what next? You know, samurai if you're Japanese, can you bring samurai swords in? Cause that's the same sort of thing. Where does it stop? How can they how can they allow young people to take these daggers into into a comprehensive school? It's beyond
• 1:11:14
  belief. It's just unbelievable. It really is unbelievable.
• 1:11:18
  Unknown: Alas. Yeah. There's no they're they're quite happy to stoop as low as they possibly can, I think? Yeah. Anyway Anyway. We can come back to this. If we find our conversation returneth to it, then that's absolutely fine. But who are you?
• 1:11:31
  Unknown: Who are you talking to? Who are you talking to you. Me. I Who
• 1:11:37
  Unknown: who are you? I don't know anything about you. Now, actually, that's not true. No. Because I get together with Kizzy once a fortnight in this pub just up the road, which is a actually, we're hopping around from pub to pub. I like the older one.
• 1:11:49
  We're in a different one at the moment. The food's pretty good, and it's quite lively, isn't it? So we meet every couple of weeks. But Yeah. You've been very, very active in this space for quite a while, haven't you? And you took a break, and now you're getting all active again. You got a show here on FFT, and I called yesterday. It was really good. She did sound fantastic, your your guest.
• 1:12:07
  Unknown: Did I did I not? You said there's something wrong with my mic. Is it a bit dodgy now? No. You're not. It's okay. You're you're quite okay. We could yeah. It's fine. It's not too bad. It's pretty good. I I don't know what it was. Let's not talk. I already had a technical moment right at the beginning of the show, and I don't yeah. I did. I cocked things up really bad really bad. Well, my show, as you know, is called warts and all because all sorts of things happen, and it is what it is, isn't it? You know? That's what I like about the radio and and live shows because it's human.
• 1:12:32
  And we are at the moment, I'm still human, I think you guys are still human before AI takes over. So warts and all, I think, is great. Mistakes and errors, because that's what people want in a way. Things go wrong. It's kind of hopefully funny. If not, then you're on the wrong show. Yeah. I know. Well, there's no shortage of them around here recently. It's been quite a bit the tech fest, actually, of cock ups. It's just unbelievable.
• 1:12:53
  And, of course, I'm always I've got a wry smile when I'm saying, hey. You need to sort that out. And I'm going, Paul, take a look. You know? It's a bit it's a bit much. But you are you you are our technical man. Like, you are a producer, and you are sort of holding it all together, which is is brilliant. Because people ask me things. I said, I don't know. I'll go send it to Paul. I I don't I don't know how things work. Yeah. It's alright. It'll it'll all come out in the wash. Come together. But just just going back to that thing, you did a thing, did you not, called the freedom movement or something a few years ago? What was that all about? What propelled you into that? Because you never really fully told me. No. No. Because it's it kind of it's it's served its purpose. So I am Karen Dodd, and I set up the Freedom
• 1:13:30
  what's it called? The Freedom Network in 2020
• 1:13:33
  when things went a bit pear shaped, when I I just sensed something was happening,
• 1:13:37
  you know, globally. I don't know why it was like intuition, and I've just been on my little
• 1:13:42
  podcast thing. I have a Wise Women Weekdays YouTube,
• 1:13:46
  and I've just literally left that, and I'm talking to a guy called Gary Steele, talking about intuition, women tend to be more intuitive than men for whatever reason. So I'll leave that one there. But something came into my field, my thoughts, my space. I don't know how it came. I just thought, oh god. Something's gonna happen. I didn't know what it was. And then when the convid came on board,
• 1:14:09
  I thought, crumbs, I know it's fake. I know I know this is how they're trying to get us.
• 1:14:14
  I've gotta do something about it. And I kinda just went do you know? It was really weird. I was kind of propelled energetically. Something pushed me forward
• 1:14:21
  to set up this this Freedom Network. I had been in touch with a guy called I can't remember his name now. Dolan. He said he said
• 1:14:30
  oh god. No. Was it keep Britain free or something? Was it a keep Britain free movement? Do remember that? It was something like that. I think it was keep Britain free. Simon Dolan, I think. Can't quite remember. And I thought that's great. There was somebody doing something already online. So I contacted him, and I said, can you make it possible so when people look at your website, they can find somebody in their locality
• 1:14:51
  so they can meet up and and and chat and find friends? Because most most people didn't know what was going on. They just followed they didn't, well, they followed it, didn't they? They followed the narrative. They couldn't think for themselves.
• 1:15:01
  So I sent that to him, and then he did it. The next time I went onto his his website,
• 1:15:07
  he had separated. He had, like, north, south, west, east, and Scotland, Wales, something like that. I thought, oh, that's really good. And then somebody picked up on that, and there was a a group in Brighton that met. There was, like, 11 of us. And we met up, and we started meet meeting regularly.
• 1:15:21
  And then I just thought this needs to be, you know, bigger.
• 1:15:24
  So hence, I set up the Freedom Network, and all it was was a website.
• 1:15:29
  People would go onto the website, and it had all the headings of, you know, what's going on with the police and common law and home educate your children and grow your own food and all the headings that we need to create this alternative parallel society.
• 1:15:42
  But the most important thing that really worked was it had this interactive map. So somebody would go onto the map to find their local hub.
• 1:15:50
  And if their their town wasn't on the map, the email will come to me,
• 1:15:54
  and I'd say, well, now you are the representative
• 1:15:56
  of your town, wherever that is, and it was global. It was all over the world. And some people say, well, I don't wanna be I said, I know. I don't wanna do this, but we have to do it. And if you don't wanna take on that responsibility,
• 1:16:07
  just be that name until somebody else contacts you, and then, you know, there's two of you, and that other person can be the admin or whatever. But just come together and and grow your your societies, your groups, whatever you wanna call them. And and it just took off. It just really, really took off because nobody else was doing it. There wasn't a stand in the park or anything like that at the time.
• 1:16:26
  And it kind of did me in, to be honest, because I was there twenty four seven to 02:00 in the morning setting up these hubs, sending out newsletters,
• 1:16:33
  helping Darren with the light paper, if you meant you know, the light paper that's still going strong. So I was reading that for him, helping him finance it, and stuff like that. Just anything to get the message out there.
• 1:16:45
  And then on the back of that, I I started organizing conferences. I'd called them up, rise, and shine. So I think we did about 14 or 15 of those all over the country as well, bringing speakers together, bringing music together and workshops, and bringing the people that wanted you know, they wanted to connect. They wanted to find answers and just meet other people that knew what was going on, and it was it was actually incredible. It was really it was incredible what some of the emails that I got. It was just
• 1:17:13
  oh, there was one there was one guy, for instance, locally, this was in Lewis in East Sussex.
• 1:17:18
  He was an ex copper,
• 1:17:19
  and he had followed the rules of being locked down, and then, you know, he he had the courage to contact me and meet me, and he was terrified of meet me.
• 1:17:27
  And we went for a walk, and he was, looking behind him all the time because he worked for something. Yeah. Was You're quite scary, aren't you? Is that why you're scary?
• 1:17:34
  Yeah. I was yeah. I had these fangs, and he thought I was, you know. But no, he was just he thought somebody was following us or whatever because we weren't supposed to meet, and and it was really sad to see this grown bloke, six foot four,
• 1:17:46
  frightened of the system. And then I said, look, we meet,
• 1:17:49
  and we meet in a in a in a friend's house, which was actually kind of a restaurant with a bar up upstairs.
• 1:17:55
  We meet every week or whatever it was. I think it was every week or yes. Because you and I meet every fortnight. So in those days, it was every week. I said, come along. Come along. So he did. He came along, and he was
• 1:18:06
  astounded because people were walking around. There was a bar, and he wanted a drink, and he sort of looked at me and said, well, yeah, go and get a drink. And he said, well, I can go up to the bar and buy a drink. I said, yeah. Yeah. Because so many people had had gotten used to what we were supposed to do, you know, sit down, wear a mask, and unless you you know? Well, if you're sitting at the table, you could take your mask off. But if you stood up, you have to have the mask on. All this absolute
• 1:18:29
  bollock. Excuse my French, but it's gone past 09:00.
• 1:18:32
  So this big grown up, yeah, ex peaceman,
• 1:18:36
  he he he cried. He just stood there and cried, and we all gave him a group hug. You know? I was I was meeting people like that. I was meeting people or or they were emailing me saying I'm a Buddhist, and I've been attending a class for forty years with a whole bunch of people, and I'm the only one that isn't wearing a mask. You know, they're all following the narrative. It was shocking. It was absolutely shocking. So anyway, that's what I did. And then I I had a bit of a burnout from it because what I have found from all the I am talking a lot. Is that alright? You can butt in or play a song. No. It's great. No. This is this is it. I'm just saying I'm having a nice cup of tea. I'm gonna light a cigar in a minute. I'm really enjoying it, because It's it's
• 1:19:13
  I had a bit of a burnout
• 1:19:16
  partly because of people.
• 1:19:18
  Because what I've what I learned, I've learned a lot within this this time scale, but I thought naively
• 1:19:25
  that everybody that was, let's say, awake, I know not everybody likes that term, but that knew or aware. You know, there's different levels or different layers of awakeness or awareness.
• 1:19:35
  Yes. And I just assumed that we all knew there's some baddies out there. We've gotta come together, and we've gotta sing Ging Ganguly around the fire and hold hands and make the world a better place, and we were all on that page.
• 1:19:47
  I didn't realize that some of these goodies weren't as good, and they started saying things about me behind my back saying I was in it for the money and whatever in fact, I don't know exactly what they were saying because it never came to me. I just started thinking, hang on. Something's not right here. The meetings, you know, people aren't coming to the meetings. Then I realized they were meeting behind my back. They set up a separate group. Right. And it got very, very, very nasty. And then people phoning me saying, why are you doing this? So I I said, I'm I'm not. I'm just I'm just, you know, doing what I think is right, bringing people together to save the world. Isn't that what we're all about? So it got nasty. And I was very, very hurt by it, actually, and and shocked, really shocked because I thought these were my friends. If there was an issue, come to me and speak to me. Don't stab me in the back and and and set up something behind the scenes. But I realized that this is what we do as humans because through the Freedom Network, so many people contacted me telling me similar stories. There were fallouts
• 1:20:45
  for various reasons. He didn't like her. She said that. You know, somebody was having an affair and and all all these all this Yeah.
• 1:20:53
  Beings having affairs. What are they like? I know. What are they like? How dare they? How dare they have a relationship?
• 1:20:59
  But, yeah, just just the nature of being human and coming together.
• 1:21:03
  And I I'm trying to work it out, and I've I've kind of worked it out to a certain extent. I think we are evolving at different levels, but it was very sad and very shocking. So that's when I thought, well, I've done my bit now. You know, people there all these hubs, they're still there. You know, there's a couple of Telegram groups where people chat,
• 1:21:19
  and people there's there's these hubs all over the place. So I know they they meet because I still, I'm invited to certain things or they send me emails,
• 1:21:27
  but the that momentum has has gone now because I think a lot of people think it's over, that chaos that we went through, that that weirdness,
• 1:21:35
  you know, bubbles and all that sort of nonsense, which is like, if they made a movie on it, you wouldn't believe it. You'd think, oh, that was so unrealistic.
• 1:21:43
  But the majority of people followed it through. So, yeah, I took a bit of a back burner,
• 1:21:48
  changed my my own personal life. I got divorced, moved from to another part of Sussex, from East to West Sussex,
• 1:21:55
  and then sort of create had this blank canvas because my kids were old enough to have left home now. And so, yeah, I've I've changed. I'm I'm now doing my podcast on Wise Women weekdays because I think it's really important if you know what's something's going on in the world to try and get that out there in any way, whether it is music or radio or podcasts or writing books or play, whatever it is, or just meeting in the park just to share and coming So
• 1:22:18
  I think we have a duty, don't we? If we know what's We going on do. Yeah. Yes. You and you can't not. I've tried not to, and I thought I've I've done my bit now, but I I can't not. I can't sit still. I have to keep at it sharing. So that, you know, that's me. And then, of course, met you, and now I'm on the radio, and here I am talking to you guys now.
• 1:22:35
  Unknown: Phew. Brilliant. That's really good. No. That is that's good. I didn't have you'd given sort of little bits and bobs of it, you know, over the months that we've been connecting, but I didn't have the full sort of story on the whole thing, and it's good for everybody here
• 1:22:48
  to know it as well. Yeah. As you talk
• 1:22:51
  Unknown: you're talking about the Freedom Network, I'm thinking, oh, you need to get that out of mothballs because we need it for the Foodfinder sub or FFT Radio Network or something like that. We need all these little things. Do you know? It's it's true. We do, Paul. And I was a bit stew I think because I because it was it was a one woman show kind of thing, especially when I had these people working or say working, we were joining together and doing it. Obviously, I was a driving force, but, you know, the people what we did, we had, like, a representative for each of the towns in Sussex. There were 16. You'd have somebody from Southwick and and and Worthing and Chichester and and we'd all come together and meet and say, this is what's happening in our hub, you know, and and share that information and take it back, and we were supposed to expand. And I had great plans. I had very good plans. I was all all sorts of stuff was coming on the back of it. But it as I say, because of what happened to me, and I was just so really, really, really hurt, actually, and shocked by it, I thought, right. I'm I'm just gonna go and retire. I'm gonna go and sit in the corner and salt for a little bit, which I I kinda did.
• 1:23:50
  And I closed it down, people said, well, don't close it down because I had I was had a lot of subscribers. I was sending out regular newsletters,
• 1:23:57
  and then I just said, right. That's it. I'm done now. And and I closed it all down and got rid of all my all the contacts,
• 1:24:04
  which I knew as I was doing instinctively,
• 1:24:06
  thought I shouldn't. I should be holding on to these addresses and everything because they will be useful
• 1:24:10
  for you know, just to keep people together.
• 1:24:13
  But I didn't. I just shut it down, and that was it. And then I thought, well, if it's meant to happen again, it will. They say build it, and they will come. And and that's kind of my philosophy. Think if your intention is to do something,
• 1:24:24
  do it as long as for the right reason, and if and and and that's it. Don't worry about the outcome. So I will create something, and I think if it's meant to happen, it it will happen organically. And and I don't put any sort of, oh god, people didn't turn up, and and that's not fair. Do do you know what I mean? It's just otherwise, I won't do anything. You won't do anything. You don't know.
• 1:24:43
  You might have a million listeners, mightn't you? Or you might have one listener, but it doesn't matter. You're here. You've created this radio show,
• 1:24:50
  and and that's what your intention is, and that's what you're doing, and not to be worried about the outcome. Don't have any attachment to it. That's that's kind of my philosophy.
• 1:24:57
  Unknown: Well, I'm completely with you. I think we just gotta keep pounding on and not get too sucked into what we think, you know, everybody else is saying all the time.
• 1:25:05
  Yeah. I mean, it's, yeah, it's quite challenging.
• 1:25:08
  The thing is that momentum is good. Also, I mean, with regards to your list as well, I've had that experience
• 1:25:14
  many times
• 1:25:16
  of going, oh, I need to hang on to all this, but you find sometimes that the energy, the sort of mood of a thing has gone,
• 1:25:22
  and it's never coming back. And you sort of go, oh, I'll get that old list out and everything, but people were there for specific reasons. And I think,
• 1:25:29
  you know it's all learning curve and we just go again and every time we go again we go better. I mean, it might not actually always seem that way but I think you've got to view it that way and go look this is what so we'll just get up so we've taken a punch so what let's get up and go again And, you know, bore the other side to pieces. We're not stopping
• 1:25:47
  Unknown: because we can't. No. That that's right. Because everything's on the line right now. Everything. Everything is on the line. I I I agree. And it's interesting because I had somebody contact me the other day on the back of all this this
• 1:26:01
  horrible stuff that happened to me, and she still was convinced that I was, a, you know, not a very nice person. So we had a a voice mail discussion. You are awful. I am awful, but I like you. Oh, you're awful, but I like you.
• 1:26:13
  Unknown: Who is that? That was Dick and
• 1:26:16
  Unknown: Oh, It was. Yeah. Yeah. Was Dick and I. Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:26:19
  And
• 1:26:21
  It was. You are awful, I like Yeah.
• 1:26:26
  In those days. Fagotry into hint of modern British entertainment centers. Yeah. Well, it was fun. In those days, it was fun. It was fun. Yeah. But now, I mean, oh, yeah. It's all it's all got a bit wonky, ain't it? Winky wonky.
• 1:26:38
  But yes. So somebody recently contacted me of of, like, remnants from all that hoo that I'd gone through, and she still didn't actually know what had gone on. And she was pretty apologetic. Not I say apologetic?
• 1:26:51
  A little bit. A little bit saddened by what had happened and
• 1:26:54
  and yeah. And I said, well, it doesn't matter. It's all water under the bridge now. And I helped her do some she needed some networking done, so I helped her and assisted her because she needed the help for her father. I mean, is what annoyed me. This is what upset me because I was setting up the network so that people could network.
• 1:27:09
  And
• 1:27:10
  she needed help for her father. He's he's in London. He's 94. And I knew somebody in London who was looking for another place to live. So I joined the two together and walked away, and and they've sorted it out. Now this person, you know, I had to communicate with her,
• 1:27:25
  but I had to say
• 1:27:27
  this this is what the network was all about, to help people, to assist people. She was a little bit hesitant because she said, well, I heard, you know, you did some horrible things. I said, well, you didn't ask you didn't talk to me. You didn't come to me and ask me what horrible things I did because I still don't know.
• 1:27:41
  But I've learned from that, you know, that we still have to go forward, but that we have to do it in different
• 1:27:47
  not in a different way so much, but I think be a little bit more protective. I was just too naive going in their gung ho thinking everybody
• 1:27:54
  is on on it for in it for the same reason, and they've all got you know, they're compassionate, and they're kind, and they haven't got ego issues, but which we all have. We need an ego to get out of bed. Sure. But I think that is that is what we have to work on ourself. We have to do some inner work to be a little bit more compassionate and not worry about what he says and she says, and that is where it's at. The the work is really within ourselves. And until we get that sorted, we're gonna be going round and round in circles.
• 1:28:22
  I don't know if we can get it sorted, but that's that's what I think really needs to be done.
• 1:28:26
  Unknown: Yeah. Yeah. I think you're right. I mean, it's difficult. You can't, you know you try to read a room and you really can't and as things sort of move on
• 1:28:34
  people that you thought were going to be really solid just sort of pop a valve don't they and they sometimes just go off on a big one you go what what's you know and that's got to be put to one side well some of us find it it's always going be a challenge but you you've got to find a way of doing it you just gotta yeah I mean people say that you've been in conversations we all have right and someone will say something
• 1:28:54
  and it's to me sort of ridiculous what they've just said but I don't buy it because later on when they've moved on to other things, they can say really good things from my sort of critical point of view, which doesn't mean that I'm right.
• 1:29:07
  Unknown: But, you know, if people are a bit too reactive and quick to sort of pull the trigger in things, it creates this distress. It's, it's a great challenge, isn't it, not living with other human beings? It is. It is. It's I mean, that's how we learn, isn't it, through relationship. That's and whether that's living with somebody or whether it's whoever pours your your, you know, your your coffee, the barrister, whatever they're called.
• 1:29:27
  If they pour it in the wrong way or something or too much milk, you might have a, you know, an issue with that. So that's another form of relationship. We learn through being in contact with each other through our emotions, and that is what is really important, how we have to to deal with that. And I think from from what's happened
• 1:29:45
  from my experience, and I think for most people, where we are now in 2026, this has gone on for, well, it it kicked off in 2020, and I can't believe those years have just it's like a, you know, it's a flash. It's those years have just gone so quickly.
• 1:29:58
  But the people that are still there,
• 1:30:01
  you know, on the frontline, as I I would call it,
• 1:30:04
  we we're there, and we're stronger. And and we've got a a bigger message or stronger message to give out. We're not going away.
• 1:30:12
  And I think that's what has happened for so many of these groups. Because I know it's not just me this has happened to. It's happened to virtually everybody
• 1:30:18
  that has stood up and, you know, to be counted and to to try and do something.
• 1:30:23
  Whether people are are trying to break us or to bring us down through jealousy or through fear or through anger, I don't know. But we're still there, and we're stronger. And I think
• 1:30:33
  it is bringing the the I don't wanna say powerful, but those with more of, how can you say it? Who have this intention to really get something done.
• 1:30:42
  Yes. They're you know, we're we're there. We're there on the front line. No matter what is thrown at us, we thought, okay. We've had that lesson. It wasn't very nice, but I've learned from it. I'm stronger, and I'm gonna plow on and, you know, and until I die. This is this is my vocation now. You you can't knock me off. You can say and do what you want. So I think that is the lesson in this and also to be a bit wary of somebody who wants to be your best friend,
• 1:31:05
  you know, that have just come out of the blue. So just be a little bit more discerning. I'm your best friend now.
• 1:31:10
  Unknown: Yes. That creepy feeling. Creepy feeling. You give us a give us a bit of space?
• 1:31:16
  Absolutely.
• 1:31:17
  Yeah. So I I put a comment up there from Alice Gorgeous. She says, Kizzy, sounds like you were targeted. I had that in 2017.
• 1:31:23
  Alice is a regular chatty. A great name, isn't it? Alice Gorgeous. She is gorgeous as well. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. I had that in 2017,
• 1:31:30
  slander and defamation of character. And over on the, FFT radio chat room, which is buzzing along a little bit not as lively as this but we're early days still. Mister and missus English turned up right and that song that I played was was by them and they missed it. Oh
• 1:31:48
  I
• 1:31:49
  can't play it again. Well, I've it on another afternoon. Dancing all around the room again and getting out of breath. We can't we can't do it twice. It's ridiculous. Well, I'll play it online. One time. Can I play it online on Wednesday when I'm when I'm live? Yeah. I'll send you their stuff over. They're doing loads of stuff. I've got I've yeah. You can have it and yeah. We'll we'll give people exposure and give them a shout out and do everything. Yeah. Again, this is just a shout out to anybody out there. We need someone heading up a music desk. It's just a a word for it. It's a sheet of paper right now on my desk that says music desk because it's a big job, and it could be phenomenally
• 1:32:22
  productive. It really could.
• 1:32:25
  Yeah. I just think there's there's a lot of talent out there. We know that there is. We just don't know where it is yet, but it's there. It's absolutely there. And who's gonna go into the recording
• 1:32:34
  Unknown: industry these days? It's a joke. You know? It is a joke. Silly jokes. And the the thing is, again,
• 1:32:41
  going back to, like, with the the Freedom Network and and what you're doing here and people that are on the front line trying to create something,
• 1:32:48
  it can't just be a one man show. You know? You do need a team around you because otherwise you take on everything,
• 1:32:54
  and and and you'll get burnout. That's what I found. You know? I had these people that I trusted, but then it it it went flat. But I just needed somebody with the technical stuff or with the admin or with the marketing.
• 1:33:05
  Also, I was doing it all myself, and it was twenty four seven. I thought I can't physically do this. And then I thought, why should I? You know? Why why should I do it? And and when everybody
• 1:33:15
  can have a part to play. They don't have to take the the whole role, but they like you're saying, you want somebody it'll be really helpful to get somebody to do,
• 1:33:23
  Unknown: the music side. And if you're out there just work independently. There's gotta be people out there that hey. Look. I'm an old fart in regards to music. I know what I like, and it's older stuff, and I'm sort of quite keen about it. Right? But that doesn't make that makes me not a good pick for this sort of thing. I'll play anything that that people offer up in a way. That's, you know, that's what I've got to do. But we need a music desk to share this music out, and I've got some systems in place so that the other host can go in there and go, well, there's 600 tracks in here now. Yeah. I go, yeah. Yeah. Well, what are they like? I don't know. Don't have time to even listen to them. That's what I mean. Music, you've got to actually listen to these things and go, oh, this is really this is a banger. Let's play this, you know? Yeah. We've had the guy,
• 1:34:02
  Charles, I think it was Charles, sent us that fantastic trap. You didn't hear it, but it's brilliant. It's about farming. It's about six minutes long. It's an absolute blinder,
• 1:34:11
  Unknown: And he'd knocked that up, and I'm going, okay. This has gotta get organized. We we you know? Yeah. In big radio stations, they have someone in charge of music programming. I don't. We don't have anybody here doing that just yet. Yeah. But it'll come. Just yet. It will come. It will It will come. And do do you know it's interesting because when you're talking about artists, and they do need to be her, because if you are an artist, I don't think you're gonna make money on it anymore. I I I don't know unless you sell your soul
• 1:34:36
  to, you know, to somebody Yeah. As Mark Devlin will certainly talk talk to you about. And he's gonna be coming on the show, actually, at the end of summer. He said he'd come and have a chat, Mark Devlin, so that'd be one worth listening to. That's great. But the other day, I was, on Facebook, which I say I'm not on very often, but it seems like I'm on it more than I am,
• 1:34:55
  yeah, more than I plan to be. Anyhow, there I was listening to this guy that I thought was brilliant, and his name was Benny Rivers.
• 1:35:03
  The track he played oh, wow. It was and I was actually this is the other week when I was in Turkey on on a yoga retreat, and I was listening the artist, is it? Benny Rivers? Well, hear this out. Hear, yeah, hear this out. I I listened to it. I loved it. I played it. I played it again. I played it. I must have played it 10 times that night because it was just it was soulful.
• 1:35:23
  The words were all about, you know, there's grace in getting old and stuff like this. I then sent it to my friend who's running
• 1:35:30
  the yoga retreat, and she played it the next day in the lesson,
• 1:35:34
  and we all loved it. And then when she got home, she played it at another lesson,
• 1:35:38
  and her class loved it. And then one person from her class said, who is it? Benny Rivers. You know, nobody's ever heard of Benny Rivers. So she's trying to find it, this this student of hers, and couldn't find Benny Rivers. So then she googled it,
• 1:35:53
  and guess what?
• 1:35:54
  AI. AI.
• 1:35:56
  A bloody eye.
• 1:35:58
  Yeah.
• 1:36:00
  And he it's like he looks like it's it's a real I mean, you can Google it now. Benny Rivers AI. The songs are brilliant. He looks brilliant. He's a soulful black, you know, singer. He doesn't exist.
• 1:36:11
  He doesn't freaking well exist.
• 1:36:13
  He doesn't exist. And I'm saying I don't use JR. It's just in
• 1:36:17
  It's just in our minds. And they're doing to us.
• 1:36:19
  And therefore, all these artists, all these amazing artists, these young people, old people trying to get their tracks out there, their music out there, You've got I say you've got no hope. You have. You've gotta do it. You've got to do it, but we've got to play it, and we have to have somebody there helping to organize it. Else, Benny Rivers,
• 1:36:35
  Elle, will take over. There'll be floods of rivers. There'll be a tsunami
• 1:36:40
  Unknown: of yeah. So that was shocking because I said I don't use AI, and there there I was playing it and promoting it. I don't think it matters really, at this stage. I think it's a bit like we just throw everything we've got at the wall and see what sticks, and it'll just get better. There's no point sort of going if we just wait we'll get it right, we're not gonna get it right, we're gonna cock it up all over the place. That's part of the fun of it really. I mean there are some talented bands out there, I've got one called, what they name, I'm just gonna I'm gonna play this at the end of this hour actually. There's about they contacted Mark the Bollahat farmer, they're called Ocean Views
• 1:37:11
  and they sent a lot of tracks over, they're quite they're quite raucous.
• 1:37:16
  Unknown: Raucous,
• 1:37:17
  Unknown: raucous. They're quite raucous and stuff like that. I found one called granny's crazy conspiracy theories or something like that, which is great. Oh no, granny's crazy conspiracy. I go, oh I quite like the title of that, so we're gonna run it. I haven't even listened to it yet, but it's the title's good. And we played Phil Zimmerman the other week, your guy, you know, with lines in the sky, which has a certain sort of punk energy to it, which I quite liked.
• 1:37:40
  And, you know, maybe I'll loosen up. Maybe I'll go back, you know, in my head to my youth through this, Kizzy. Maybe.
• 1:37:47
  Sort of a Yeah. Pop
• 1:37:49
  Unknown: Well, he sent me a again, a great guy, Phil Simmond. He's part of the Wrinkly
• 1:37:53
  oh, I can't remember the website. He sent a Wrinkly's. The Wrinkly's. Well done. The old Wrinkly's.
• 1:37:58
  And, yeah, if you look at the videos, they they're quite graphic. He's a comedian as well. He might be known in London because he does some comedy,
• 1:38:05
  but it is it is it is wild. He dresses up and put wig puts wigs on and and It and does look a bit wild. It looks quite wild. He's got that face. You go, woah. Hang on. He he has he's got a certain look about him, hasn't he? Yeah. He does. I think he might have do you remember during those convid years when there was, a guy that got I don't if you ever saw the videos, that he got on the tube with a white jacket and maybe a thing around his neck, one of those
• 1:38:30
  doctors wear. What do they call those things that you Stethoscope. Stethoscope.
• 1:38:34
  Stethoscope. That's right. He got so he looked the part, and then he got on the tube, and he was saying, right. Move on. Move on, COVID, you know, infection. Move on. Move on. And all the people getting up moving along to another carriage. It was just him just just testing to see how how gullible. Obedient everybody. Yeah.
• 1:38:52
  Yeah. He was I thought he's amazing. And that's what he is. He's, you know, he's fearless.
• 1:38:56
  He's, yeah, he's absolutely fearless. So and his music is pretty good because yesterday, played The Power of Love,
• 1:39:01
  and I didn't realize it was a cover from that
• 1:39:04
  Frankie group. Frankie goes to Hollywood.
• 1:39:07
  Unknown: So I don't know if I'm allowed to play covers on on shows. Are we allowed to do I think so. Think you are. I don't look. Right now It is. We're just we're winging it, and we'll worry about that later on on it. Yeah. Really. It's just as long as it's not, don't play the Eagles, otherwise, we'll get a rip. Right. Oh, yeah. Yeah. We don't really the most litigious band in the world. Are they? Are Yeah. Apparently. Yeah. And I don't I never liked them anyway. Always thought it was a bit puffy. I never liked the Eagles much.
• 1:39:32
  Yeah. So there you go. And if I've upset someone, I don't care. Anyway, I've got a question for you. What's happening in twenty nine days, thirteen hours, twenty one minutes, and thirty seconds? Well, twenty Is that my is that my thingamajig?
• 1:39:44
  Unknown: That my is that Might be your thingamajig, the Shine and Rise mini festival. Shine and Rise. What's that? Well,
• 1:39:51
  so before, from 2020, as I was saying, we we set up these
• 1:39:55
  uprising. They're called uprise and shine because then it was, like, angry. You know? We're gonna uprise and and then shine our light and everything like that. And so they were hugely successful.
• 1:40:04
  The first one, actually, we did was in in East Sussex, and it was during lockdown when we were not allowed to be together. So I called it a conference because we were educating ourselves. It wasn't a festival, although there was music and a lot of fun there.
• 1:40:18
  But, yeah, uprise and shine. And it was quite interesting because
• 1:40:22
  a policeman came along
• 1:40:24
  and investigated.
• 1:40:26
  He came into it was where it was, it was an outdoor space, but there was also a covered tennis court, massive big tennis court. So we had stuff going on in there and stuff going on outside and food fans, and it was a sunny day. It was amazing.
• 1:40:38
  And people it's the first time a huge number of people, 200, 300, can't remember, came to me.
• 1:40:43
  So a policeman came and knocked on the door. He came in, and then I had all these, like, common law people. So there was a mixed stock. There was David Adelman. There was other people. They sort of ran to the door to to show them how or show him how knowledgeable they were with their common law,
• 1:40:59
  to sort of see him off. But they didn't need to because he came in. He just said, what's going on there? And I said, oh, it's a it's a conference. And, obviously, we were supposed to be six feet apart. We were supposed to be wearing masks and all this nonsense. And we weren't. We were, you know, hugging and singing and having a really good time. And I went up and said, it's a conference. It's, you know, it's about education. And he was great. He said, well, I can't see anything wrong in that. Because, obviously, he thought what what had gone on, you know, in 2020 was was bonkers.
• 1:41:25
  So we all loved him a lot. We said, you know, do you wanna come and have a cup of tea? He said, No. No. I just wander around, then I go off. Well, she did. But then
• 1:41:32
  more police cars started to to come. Didn't come in and check us. Bee bah. Bee bah. Bee bah. Yep. And
• 1:41:40
  and what what what went wrong is quite funny now in retrospect, but at the time, it's a little bit scary. We one of the food vans didn't show up, so we didn't have enough food to feed the masses.
• 1:41:51
  So they decided to go down to the village and frequent the local establishments. They'd go to the local pubs.
• 1:41:58
  And, of course, they were the unmasked warriors, weren't they? They were like you know, they were carrying the plague, and it really upset
• 1:42:05
  the village.
• 1:42:07
  So, obviously,
• 1:42:08
  they didn't come back. That's a sad thing. They didn't come back to we have brilliant music, professional
• 1:42:13
  musicians afterwards.
• 1:42:14
  Because they'd gone, they thought, well, you know, they they went to the pub, had said beer, and then they went home. So it was a bit of a disappointment for my very good musicians, but, hey ho, that's what happens. But then I started getting calls from the police afterwards, after the event, and then it was in the local newspaper,
• 1:42:28
  you know, about where where
• 1:42:30
  did these zombies well, they weren't zombies. Where did these, like, you know, people, unmasked people come from, and and they invaded the village of Alphiston.
• 1:42:38
  So that was the first one. And then it just took That was Alphiston, was it? Yeah. That was in Alphiston. That's where I got married. I got married in that. Oh, you oh, at that hotel?
• 1:42:47
  Unknown: Yeah. Yeah. That lovely hotel. Was back there a few years
• 1:42:51
  five or six years ago with Ray Savage.
• 1:42:53
  Unknown: That is at Ray Savage's place. It was at Ray Savage's place. Right. Which is just he's sort of looking Yeah. On that
• 1:43:00
  Unknown: And that was in March that we got married and the whole place as my wife said was full of flatadils.
• 1:43:06
  That's how she used to pronounce it. All the flatadils were out and it was gorgeous. Anyway, sorry. Are they are they flowers? Are they they beautiful? Puking. But, yeah, it's it's got a soft I've got a soft spot in my heart for Alphiston.
• 1:43:18
  Alphiston's lovely. And and the event was at Ray's Place. Yeah. It was at Ray's Place, so you'll know that. Is it called Ray's Place in a flashing neon light sign outside it? Because it sounds cool. It's like a It does, isn't it? A jazz club. I just made everybody else out because they hate jazz around here. I'm not a big fan. Well, some people like jazz. No. I'm not. Especially the wonky jazz that goes,
• 1:43:38
  Unknown: you know, all over the place. You don't know. We need to record that. Can you do a recording, dude? That was fantastic. Well, that's like jazz because you don't you can't repeat it because it's all over the place. So I can't yeah. I do could do it. Mess.
• 1:43:49
  Unknown: It's rubbish.
• 1:43:50
  Unknown: But, yeah, Ray Ray Soldier's place now is it's gone. Well, it's still there, but he's gone.
• 1:43:55
  But on the back of that, we started doing them all over the place. We're up in Manchester and Milton Keynes and the Isle Of Wight. So I was I was doing them all over the place. And then with all what happened, I thought, okay. Done my bit now. I've done 15 conferences. And I'm not an events organizer, but it just happened. And, again, build and they will come, as they say.
• 1:44:13
  And then I thought, done it. Take me out. I'll finish. But now, last year, I was wandering around this place in Bosom, just outside Chichester,
• 1:44:20
  and just meeting a friend for coffee. And she showed me the grounds,
• 1:44:24
  and something inspired me. It was the children.
• 1:44:27
  So there was a group of babies with their carers and parents, and they were they were having
• 1:44:32
  baby yoga under this beautiful old oak tree. And I thought, oh, that's nice. And I went around the corner, and then there's more children on a forest school day out climbing trees and and picking apples and and showing them to me. And I thought, wow. This is the new energy that's coming into the the world. These are the new, you know, the new people, and and they need support. And I thought, I'm I'm just at the end of the walk, I said, I'm just gonna do another event, but this one's gonna be called Shine
• 1:44:56
  and Rise
• 1:44:57
  rather than Uprise. The Uprise, the fighting thing has has kinda gone. So this is all about Shine and Rise. So it's a kind of an event. Again, it's limited to a 100 people being present and but there'll be you know, we'll stream the the talks. So we've got two days of of presenters
• 1:45:12
  and lots of workshops and food and music and and and lots of joy and love stuff going on.
• 1:45:18
  Yeah. Fourth and fifth of July at it's called greendoor.com.
• 1:45:23
  That's the venue, but the tickets are are on Eventbrite called Shine and Rise. And as I say, it's about frequency. It's about vibration.
• 1:45:31
  It's about positivity.
• 1:45:32
  So it's really about everything
• 1:45:34
  nice and positive and lovely and empowering individuals.
• 1:45:38
  Because also on the Saturday night, we've got a fire walk, which I don't know. Have you done a fire walk, guys? Have you ever done one? No.
• 1:45:46
  Unknown: No. Anyway, swiftly moving on.
• 1:45:49
  Oh. Very Eric's done loads, haven't you, Eric? Eric smashed his car up today, but he's not done a fire walk. Do it every day. We jump on that, I just want to say to everybody the events that's coming up, full details of it are on the fftradio.com
• 1:46:03
  website. If you click the events tab at the top, you get all the details there. So it's coming up in however many days I said. So you go over there and have a look. Shine your eyes under the events tag on FFT. Yeah. Eric, you were gonna say something.
• 1:46:17
  Unknown: Well, no. I mean, there's a scientific reason why your feet don't burn in a firewall. I'm sorry to destroy it for you, but No. No. Apparently,
• 1:46:26
  they they've looked into it, and it's something to do with the soles of your feet. And if you do it rather
• 1:46:32
  quickly,
• 1:46:34
  you you you you you know, you won't burn.
• 1:46:37
  And but I think there's a lot of You bet I miss. Thanks. Thank you. Well,
• 1:46:42
  I mean, that does I I'm quite positive because,
• 1:46:47
  now what I was going to say is I'm I'm quite positive because,
• 1:46:52
  what about morphic resonance?
• 1:46:54
  This is what Rupert Sheldray looks into
• 1:46:56
  where people are beginning to learn things
• 1:47:00
  that the government hoping
• 1:47:02
  they wouldn't learn.
• 1:47:04
  And
• 1:47:05
  have you noticed a a change in consciousness in many ways?
• 1:47:10
  Unknown: Well, absolutely. That's what this event's all about.
• 1:47:13
  That is exactly what this is all about. So it's talking about consciousness. It's talking about the power of, you know, energy. It's talking about quantum physics. It's talking about water. And that's why the culmination and it it might make what you're saying, you know, the scientific thing.
• 1:47:26
  The the the chat I had last night,
• 1:47:30
  with a lady, a Belgian lady, Alexandra Molgrin, she we she was talking about telepathy
• 1:47:35
  and how
• 1:47:36
  it's it's interesting. People
• 1:47:39
  want to
• 1:47:40
  have proof of stuff. Science has taken over religion.
• 1:47:44
  Over the years, religion has has, you know, managed people and controlled people, whatever religion
• 1:47:49
  you are under or within, you know, whatever you follow. There is a means of controlling people, whether it's going to the church or the mosque or the temple or whatever. Now that's kind of dying a bit of a death, I think, intentionally.
• 1:48:01
  I I don't know. Or certain religions are becoming more powerful than others. But in my mind, science
• 1:48:07
  has has now taken over that role because,
• 1:48:10
  you know, you've gotta trust the doctor. Don't trust yourself. Don't trust your intuition.
• 1:48:14
  Don't trust your your instincts as animals do. Go to the doctor or the like, that's when I was talking about the guy,
• 1:48:22
  Philip, Phil Zimmerman on the train, he had the white coat and the stethoscope, and people said, oh my god. There's a, you know, there's a doctor looking sort of person. We've got to follow what he says. And I think that's what has happened, and we are now
• 1:48:34
  certain certain numbers of us are realizing we don't have to trust the doctor or science. Science definitely has a part to play, but science changes. It evolves, isn't it? And we have to trust ourselves. We are our inner guru. We are our inner teacher.
• 1:48:49
  And by walking the hot coals, that that could be scientifically sure. If you stand on it for five minutes, I'm sure your feet are gonna burn. If you run across it, they might not. But I know of people that have run across it, and it has burned. And I know of people that have walked slowly several times, and it hasn't burned. So I don't know. Maybe, you know, it's it's your intention my feet are not gonna burn. But you have that opportunity. I'm not I'm I'm not saying this to try and sell it. It's just you have that opportunity to walk hot. You know, it could be a
• 1:49:17
  glass or it could be chopping a a brick with your hand. It's the intention behind what you're doing. That, I think, is what is really, really
• 1:49:25
  And all this intention and intuition and instinct and all these words beginning with I, that's where we're going with the rays of consciousness
• 1:49:34
  and trusting ourselves and and leaving behind all this other stuff, the science, the religion, the control, the governments, but just go within ourselves,
• 1:49:42
  trust ourselves, and coming together, those of us that really wanna do this work and and they, you know, they can leave the ego behind
• 1:49:49
  and the victimhood behind, I think that's that's what we need to do. And I think that's what's happening. I think I I I know it's Science what's
• 1:49:58
  Unknown: is a religion in itself. It is actually a religion. Yeah. It's become absolutely. It's got his hierarchy. It's treated. You're right.
• 1:50:06
  Yeah. And this this is the big big big problem.
• 1:50:10
  I
• 1:50:11
  think that my granddad used to say, there's always a little bit of good comes out of bad.
• 1:50:16
  I think the little bit of good that's come out of bad with that
• 1:50:21
  jabby time, you know, the lockdown Jabby time. Is
• 1:50:25
  jabby time. Yes. Is I think it has woken up people who would not have normally have woken up. But the big problem I think we've got is what I call the fake awake sheep
• 1:50:36
  who follow people like, little Tommy Trousers and people like that who's nothing more than an
• 1:50:44
  agent for another country.
• 1:50:46
  That's it, a country we're not allowed to criticize,
• 1:50:49
  of course.
• 1:50:50
  So this is the problem. We have got a lot of takeaway sheep,
• 1:50:54
  and you've probably come across
• 1:50:56
  them as well.
• 1:50:58
  Do you find this?
• 1:51:01
  Unknown: Definitely.
• 1:51:03
  I I think it's Oh, I know everything.
• 1:51:06
  Yeah.
• 1:51:07
  Yeah. Well, that's what I was saying earlier. There's there's different degrees of being awake or being aware. But I think the good thing, like you like you said, you know, what's happened since 2020,
• 1:51:17
  a lot of people are questioning
• 1:51:19
  themselves and questioning governments and questioning many things, whereas they wouldn't have before. They can't not question it because, you know, they're being affected. I know friends that have, you know, lost babies or or friends of of, you know, they've had to died suddenly, which seems to be a a new way of dying. It seems to be an, you know, an accepted way of dying. Now what did you die of? Oh, suddenly.
• 1:51:40
  Do you know? It's like that's gonna be put on on on the death certificate. It's like an accepted way. So some people are beginning to question it. Those that really don't wanna question it. There's so many people that wanna dig their head in the sand and just carry on with their their Sunday roast and their Friday night at the pub and and going on their two week holiday. They don't wanna face a reality because it's easier not to. It's easier not but when when you've been personally affected, when you've lost a child or somebody's died suddenly or, you know, you've got a a super spreading cancer,
• 1:52:10
  you're gonna start questioning it. And and it then it's a choice of how far do you wanna go down. You don't have to go down these very deep rabbit holes, which, you know, there's some really nasty stuff out there because it's painful, and it's unbelievable, and and we've all been lied to. So it's a choice. We've always had a choice. Some people I didn't have a choice, you know, when I took the jibby jab because I wanted to go on holiday or I had to go to work. I wanted to see my mother. It's still a choice. It's a horrible choice, but we all have a choice. Thank god.
• 1:52:37
  And, you know, we have to make that decision of of what choice, which which path you wanna go down.
• 1:52:43
  Unknown: Mhmm. Yeah. You're right. Yeah. I mean, we're being sort of nudged into situations where the choices are getting worse and worse. And that's why all the effort that's being put in now by people like us, and I include all the listeners here, is really very important. The more we can do now,
• 1:53:00
  easier it well, the less difficult it will be down the line. I don't think it's ever gonna be easy this, because of what we're facing, but you know, and we send out a positive vibe to others. I mean, I've mentioned it before, you know, you turn up and have these conversations with people,
• 1:53:13
  and you disturb them a bit, and effectively, you've become the fart in their space suits. That's really what you're doing. You're saying, hello. I've I've got some really
• 1:53:21
  I've got some icky things to tell you. Come on, sit down. It'd be it's gonna ruin your life, but, know, that's what I do.
• 1:53:27
  Well, think Of course, you you're bombing into people that don't react as badly now. That's what I'm No. That's reactions twenty years ago were really bad. They're still there. They're negative, but they're not as intense. People, they're going they're sniffing. They're going it's like that thing that's been floating around. Hey, turns out that all the conspiracy theories were true. Yeah. Because they weren't theories. They're based on research. They were true. And I think a lot of us have been shocked because when we try to tell the truth and people thought we were the Silver Hat brigade and, you know, was it Silver Hat? What are the things that were supposed to put on our head that asked conspiracy theorists?
• 1:53:57
  Unknown: When when they thought we're bonkers, and now they realize actually a lot of the stuff we said is not bonkers. It's true. And I think the Epstein files have had a lot to to, you know, to a big part to play in that those that have have looked at or read or heard about the the stuff that went on his island. And they you know, people have come to me and said, oh, have you heard this? And I said, yeah. Yeah. I have. Yeah. Yeah. I was and and you just sort of take it on the chin. You don't think, well, I told you so. I think you just have to accept it because people aren't gonna come to you.
• 1:54:27
  I don't know one person
• 1:54:29
  that has come to me and said, I don't want an I really don't want an apology, but they haven't said, god, you were right.
• 1:54:36
  They they haven't, and they won't. And I don't think we need to expect them to because, again, that's our ego kicking in. Won't. They won't do that. They won't. But maybe that's their own fear because it is reckon you know, the fact that they realize something is is wrong is is great. And if we do just sow seeds, somebody else can water the seeds. Because you'll have anybody that comes into my house, we it tends to be normal. I look up unless it's a nice day, and I just say, yeah, thank God they're not spraying today. Or they're, you know, they it would change at 03:00 because that's when the trails
• 1:55:05
  come out. And most people, it seems, they say, yeah. And I thought, oh, that's good. They, you know, they're they're looking at it and they're realizing that it's not a stupid thing to say now because even the government is saying it's geoengineering for whatever reason.
• 1:55:18
  So people
• 1:55:19
  are recognizing that something is wrong. As I was saying earlier, you can't not know that something's amiss because they're doing it. It's so obvious with with this young lad that's just been murdered or with the wars and with the orange president. You know? All these things, it's just it's just bonkers and the cost of living. So people have to face it. They're gonna have to look in the mirror, and that's their choice how they wanna do it. But that's why these shows, the music,
• 1:55:45
  the events that I've organized, all that I'm planning to, everything, just meeting together, coming together,
• 1:55:50
  and discussing it and actually ignoring a lot of all that stuff that goes on. Because hopefully most people don't watch the TV and, you know, the news or read newspapers because telly. It's lovely. I do watch Netflix, but, yeah, telly's telly's normal. A bit of telly.
• 1:56:07
  Do you know? I got a letter. I've another letter.
• 1:56:10
  They're saying, do I still not want to pay for my license?
• 1:56:14
  And I and I thought, how dare they? How dare they even you know, how to pay for that shite that they bring into into my living room. In fact, the first time I sent them a letter saying, I have got a television set. I said, but I don't want you to transmit your your rubbish into my living room. Can you stop stop it, please? I use my my screen for other things, but, you know, you're invading my space. Obviously, they ignored it. But that's how I see it. I think for us to how dare they ask us to pay
• 1:56:44
  Unknown: to put their shit in my in my living room? I get quite annoyed about it anyway. So Yeah. Well, I think that's part of it. It is to annoy you. It is to annoy you and and to take the high ground. They they take a high handed authoritarian approach to all of us, don't they? You must pay for this puke.
• 1:56:59
  Unknown: Yes. You pay for puke.
• 1:57:01
  That's a good one.
• 1:57:03
  Unknown: Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. They do do that. I actually can't stomach the BBC now. I just can't handle it. No. I just it makes me feel physically sick
• 1:57:13
  at how people can watch it. It's just beyond me. I haven't had a television, what, 16?
• 1:57:19
  Unknown: Haven't missed it once. Right. Still, they do they do do really good high quality social engineering, don't they? Yes. They should have an award for it. Yes. Yes. No. Yeah. They said. Absolutely. Social engineering award for embedding false storylines into true historical accounts goes again to the BBC
• 1:57:36
  for this bit of crap that they produced
• 1:57:38
  back last year called the history of Napoleon or something like that. You know? It's just it's all bonkers.
• 1:57:45
  It's Which we have to pay for. Which we have to pay for. You've to pay for your indoctrination. It's not cheap, you know, getting you a lot brainwashed.
• 1:57:52
  It costs money.
• 1:57:54
  Does.
• 1:57:55
  Oh, dear. It does. I would gladly sell my house, normal possession to keep the BBC going. This social engineering thing's very important for the country, madam. All that kind of stuff. It's mad. But if you put it the ten We're hour coming to the end. We are. To the end of this hour. It's been fantastic. It's flown by. You've got to come on again soonish. I did a few gigs on over on I was a wise woman, wasn't I, a few times? Were a wise woman. Were a wise woman, and you look lovely in your stilettos and your blonde beard. I did. I looked great. Eric would have been proud of me. I put I spent hours in makeup prior to going on. It was tremendous stuff. It was really tremendous stuff. But we're gonna get you back. You're definitely coming back because it's been a blast as this. It's been a sort of return invite and get it all sorted out. Thanks for having me. Appreciate it. Oh, it's lovely. It's fantastic.
• 1:58:40
  So have a cracking week. I'll probably see you at the pub next Tuesday. Think you will. Oh, great. Well, have pint and all that kind of stuff. Oh, that's oh, I happen. Cool. Brilliant. Okay. Alright. Cheerio then. That's Kizzy, Karen Dodd. You can catch Kizzy's show every Wednesday
• 1:58:57
  on fftradio.com
• 1:58:59
  at 6PM to 7PM. That's obviously English time
• 1:59:03
  GMT,
• 1:59:04
  which is what 1PM to 2PM
• 1:59:07
  US Eastern time zone time and all that kind of stuff.
• 1:59:11
  Let me just have a look at the clock here. Now who's coming up? Hour two. I've got a little song to play from ocean waves, this band.
• 1:59:18
  But in hour two, we're gonna be joined by Roger Sales who was last on here, I think possibly over a year ago. So we're gonna see what's going on with Roger. He's down in deepest,
• 1:59:28
  darkest Ecuador,
• 1:59:29
  I believe. I think that's where he is. He is. That's where he is. Anyway, we're gonna say goodbye to you all on WBN three two four. This is where the show ends, but it carries on over at fftradio.com
• 1:59:41
  if you want the radio stuff. If you want to hop in and join rather lively chat rooms on Rumble and YouTube, go to paulenglishlive.com
• 1:59:49
  and you'll find the links to the Rumble and YouTube channels there,
• 1:59:53
  which is all jolly jolly good. Okay this is that song I mentioned a bit earlier, this is a band called Ocean Views,
• 2:00:01
  were Mark spoke to them and they were knocked out that he said what you want to play all our stuff on the radio? Said yeah of course we do. So this is full on. This is called granny's crazy conspiracy.
• 2:00:12
  It's two and a bit minutes. Anyway, let's see how crazy it all is. We'll be back on the other side after this.
• 2:03:01
  Groovy.
• 2:03:02
  Like that. Grammy's crazy
• 2:03:04
  Grammy's crazy conspiracy
• 2:03:07
  by Ocean Waves. Look them up. They got a Facebook page. They got a YouTube stuff, I think. That was pretty neat. More up your street, Eric, what do you think? Not quite. I'm more of the big bang sounds, you know, a bit sort of smoking a pipe out there. No. Not really. No.
• 2:03:23
  I quite that's more my
• 2:03:26
  thing, I'm not a groovy disco guy, never was really, but I like the earlier stuff as well, it's all good stuff. I like that disco one, really like that, but I didn't quite get into that one,
• 2:03:35
  Unknown: Granny's groovy sound you know. Oh you
• 2:03:39
  Unknown: mentioned the disco one right,
• 2:03:54
  Unknown: Well that new Fockem hair growth is fantastic it's just one tablet and look what's happened it's bloody amazing. Yeah you've got to sell it hair tonic,
• 2:04:02
  Unknown: Fockem follicle,
• 2:04:04
  there you go Fockem follicle grow, fantastic.
• 2:04:09
  Yeah. This is We're really
• 2:04:11
  not short on marketing ideas around here, you know. We just need some bloody good products. That's all. Anyway,
• 2:04:16
  a man who was in the music industry a long time ago and is our guest coming up, think,
• 2:04:23
  is
• 2:04:24
  Roger Sales. I don't know if he's with us just yet. Paul's in the studio,
• 2:04:28
  but he's muted right now. I think he's muted. Are you with us Paul? What's going on?
• 2:04:33
  He is. He's not saying a thing.
• 2:04:36
  Are you there Paul?
• 2:04:38
  Unknown: Are you there? Yeah I'm here and Roger he he should be in the back room if he's not in the studio.
• 2:04:47
  Unknown: I hope the back room's not a euphemism for something Paul, that's a bit worrying really. No.
• 2:04:53
  Backstage. So
• 2:04:55
  you you are you're his audio butler for this evening, and you're assisting him into the show. Isn't that right? Yeah. Well, he he is connected to the studio.
• 2:05:05
  Unknown: Do you see him there?
• 2:05:09
  Unknown: Nope. You see him backstage? Directly in here? Yeah. He's directly there. Is he? Oh, he is. And I haven't switched So him we're just talking about you, Roger. I can't let you get a word in because you're not even in. I didn't realize you were gonna do I didn't realize you were gonna do it like that. I really didn't. Here we go. I see that. Roger Sales, welcome to the show. How are you? Yeah. Is that better?
• 2:05:32
  Yeah. That's better.
• 2:05:34
  Unknown: Cool. Yeah. Buenos Sap Buenos Sardis.
• 2:05:37
  Unknown: Yeah.
• 2:05:38
  Whatever that might mean. Anyway, how are things in lovely, beautiful, wonderful Ecuador?
• 2:05:44
  Unknown: You know, I'm just so grateful every day to be here as I see these events pop up all over the world, really.
• 2:05:51
  Yeah.
• 2:05:52
  Ecuador Ecuador's
• 2:05:53
  a little
• 2:05:55
  sanction,
• 2:05:56
  I think. I've kinda
• 2:05:59
  liken it to standard law, honestly.
• 2:06:02
  We don't have all those problems here. It's very homogeneous. We're on the dollar.
• 2:06:06
  That makes it very easy for Americans. There's no exchange rate.
• 2:06:11
  They pretty they like Americans. We're very kind of tied still with the country, and the climate is perfect.
• 2:06:18
  It's never above 85.
• 2:06:21
  It's never below 55,
• 2:06:24
  three hundred and sixty five days a year.
• 2:06:26
  And it's it's like living in Hawaii at about a tenth of the price,
• 2:06:30
  and, just a wonderful place to be. I'm very pleased that the lord guided
• 2:06:34
  me here.
• 2:06:36
  Unknown: Just sounds like English weather, Roger. Sounds doesn't it, Eric? It's just like English. Yeah. Yeah. Right. I'm sure. Yeah.
• 2:06:45
  Unknown: But, you're on the equator. Well, I will tell you they Are you near the equator? I mean, it's pretty
• 2:06:51
  Unknown: Looks pretty We're we're on no. We're on the Equator, basically. I'm about 10 miles south of it, and it would be like the English climate in one respect.
• 2:07:01
  A lot of people carry umbrellas
• 2:07:03
  because we're the highest UV
• 2:07:06
  city in the world at the highest altitude on the Equator.
• 2:07:10
  It's a very interesting place.
• 2:07:12
  Unknown: Yeah.
• 2:07:13
  Unknown: Yes. Yes. And People fall in love. I've had some of my students.
• 2:07:18
  I've had several of my couple of students down here. Like, They just fall in love with the place.
• 2:07:24
  I've I'm never going anywhere.
• 2:07:27
  And there's something that we haven't even really talked about on our show that's just bubbling up on the fringes
• 2:07:35
  about this the the the the North Pole, its acceleration in moving,
• 2:07:40
  and the fact that it might affect the magnetism
• 2:07:43
  layer,
• 2:07:44
  which will have drastic effects on on
• 2:07:47
  Unknown: radiation down the line. Have you heard anything about that, Paul? Nope. No. Nope. Not heard anything about that at all. No.
• 2:07:54
  Unknown: No. Like I said, it's on the fringes. There's a couple of people talking about it, but the guy says
• 2:07:59
  there's only gonna be a couple of safe places to be in the whole world.
• 2:08:04
  And one
• 2:08:05
  of them, unfortunately, is up around Northwest US,
• 2:08:08
  around Washington.
• 2:08:10
  And he said, we're this guy lives in in El Salvador.
• 2:08:14
  And he said anywhere around mountains around volcanoes
• 2:08:17
  is gonna be the safe zones as this transition occurs. Don't know how long it's gonna take,
• 2:08:23
  but it evidently,
• 2:08:24
  if it lays out like they set it up, it's gonna be pretty dramatic for a lot of folks.
• 2:08:29
  We're just in these wonderful times. I mean, you know, you can't
• 2:08:34
  the word's the good news.
• 2:08:36
  Unknown: I know.
• 2:08:37
  Unknown: Now So thank you for the invitation, Paul.
• 2:08:40
  Unknown: Oh, it's great. You're a bit crackly for some reason. Do you know why you're a bit crackly? Any reason? No,
• 2:08:46
  it won't be your fault, don't worry. Bless blame Paul, it's Paul's fault. I'm
• 2:08:51
  Unknown: already setting
• 2:08:53
  in place an alternative means for him to enter the studio.
• 2:08:56
  I'm gonna have to do a switch. You're trying to deep crackle Roger. Minutes.
• 2:09:01
  Now I'm gonna have to switch I'm gonna have to switch him to Zoom, which means I'm gonna have to switch the studio to another computer, but it's okay. I've got it. Give me give me about five minutes. We'll have her done. Don't say that this this show has not got masses of technical backup. That's absolutely brilliant, Paul. That's fantastic. You sound okay, Roger, but you've got you've got crackle. It's just sort of the audio equivalent of having arthritis
• 2:09:22
  Unknown: or something. You're a bit crackly. Alright. Well, the the Zoom the
• 2:09:26
  Unknown: Zoom switch should take care of it. Well, I asked you when you called me, which I was overjoyed to, by the way, because I'm always pleased to join you and Eric and the bunch here. Yep. And I intentionally told you, don't tell me what you wanna talk about.
• 2:09:40
  Unknown: So I thought we ought to I thought one of the things we should talk about yeah. I think one of the things we should talk about, Roger, is the football World Cup.
• 2:09:51
  Unknown: That's thrown you, hasn't it? Don't know too much about it.
• 2:09:55
  That's why we should talk about it. I don't really I don't really want talk some I know
• 2:10:01
  Paris enjoyed it the other evening I saw.
• 2:10:04
  Unknown: Oh, yeah. There was some sort of oh, it's hilarious that, yeah, they had a football match. It's sort of like the pinnacle. It's like the,
• 2:10:12
  high level football equivalent of the Super Bowl. Right? So, it's not as big and as grand, and, unfortunately,
• 2:10:19
  they don't have the halftime entertainment,
• 2:10:22
  which is always good for a laugh. But, yeah, it was just it was, another
• 2:10:27
  my son actually went out to a pub to watch it. He doesn't go to pubs and he doesn't like football. It's just that his mates were going, he said, I'm just going along to observe people and he's a bit like me. He likes to sort of sit back and crowd watch and do that kind of stuff, and it it was hilariously mad.
• 2:10:43
  Yeah.
• 2:10:44
  Unknown: Oh, you don't need a halftime show. You just save everything to the end and let all the, the migrants burn their historic city down.
• 2:10:52
  Unknown: Yeah. Well, you know, they're young men. They're they're full of excitement about things. I mean, what's a better way to celebrate a victory than by burning things down? I mean, you know,
• 2:11:03
  yeah. It's just another another litmus test or an indicator of something
• 2:11:08
  bonkers, all that kind of stuff.
• 2:11:10
  And
• 2:11:11
  So
• 2:11:14
  Unknown: What the do I I have to live in Ecuador. I just don't need every day when all this stuff. I'm watching it, keep up with it for my program and just has a sense of seeing what the world's doing.
• 2:11:26
  And I just point my fingers up and go, thank you, God. And I'm so glad I'm here. We just don't have any of that.
• 2:11:32
  You didn't want Paris that night, Roger. Is that what you're saying? You didn't want to be in Paris? No. No. Paris?
• 2:11:38
  Unknown: No. I would not come with you any other time in here. No. Yeah. Well, the thing was in the pub in the pub over here where my son went, right, there were lots of guys there,
• 2:11:48
  and, there was a team in it called Arsenal,
• 2:11:52
  which are based in North London. Oh, I know about Arsenal. Yeah. Yeah. They're Premier League. Right? Yeah. They are. And they they'd won the Premier League, so that was a big deal for them because they've not won it for a long time. I sound as though I follow football. I don't. This was just a cursory glance at things.
• 2:12:06
  But, so there were all these I mean, we're nowhere near Arsenal. This is also weird. You get people supporting football clubs that don't even live anywhere near there, but so be it. Anyway,
• 2:12:16
  I didn't watch any of it, and it got to about 09:00 on Saturday night. I thought, I wonder what happened. I just, you know, I'm just having a dofy moment. Right? So I thought, I wonder and I turned it on
• 2:12:27
  at about one minute to nine or whatever it was, where they were taking the last penalty in a penalty shootout.
• 2:12:34
  And the guy for arsenal missed it so they lost the whole thing so I watched about forty five seconds and just turned it off and I got the whole match in forty five seconds my son came back and I said what was it like he was hilarious
• 2:12:46
  I said what was it like in the pub he said it's pathetic he said there are guys really upset. I said what over a football with players that are not. I mean it's just it's nuts.
• 2:12:56
  To me it's just like what are you doing? But you know you can't
• 2:12:59
  can't knock it out of these people they just think it's the most tragic event that all these people sort of weeping we are devastated. What? Your football is you get paid loads of money. Who cares? It's a meaningless thing anyway. That's me. I'm I'm a bit rough with it, really. It's just daft. I know.
• 2:13:14
  Unknown: Sometimes it's the greatest thing.
• 2:13:16
  Would you rather hear that or about the Packies
• 2:13:19
  uptown there doing their deal?
• 2:13:22
  Unknown: Yeah. Yeah. No. You're right. It is a great escape. I shouldn't be so,
• 2:13:25
  cocky about it really because I do. I everybody knows I slope off by watching motor racing, and I do it. It's my conscious unconsciousness.
• 2:13:32
  I go, right. Slope off time. I'm I'm not stewing on any more stuff for a couple of hours, I'm just gonna go act like a kid for a bit. No. So I do understand that but yeah with these guys
• 2:13:42
  sorry.
• 2:13:44
  Unknown: Were in that's okay. You were in into
• 2:13:47
  American baseball at one time weren't you?
• 2:13:50
  Unknown: Yeah yeah my son's really got into watching it as well. Yeah I kind of I always had a soft spot for it I don't know I think it was I was kind of tapping into the vintage period of it and it was just an Americana
• 2:14:01
  period you know I'm thinking of like the twenties and thirties and the forties and the fifties. I got nerdy about it for some reason. Don't ask me why I was in my twenties at the time and I just loved it. It had a romanticism to it and I thought oh that's so cool and I think I mentioned to you didn't I when I first went to New York in '86
• 2:14:19
  I took myself there alone just to watch baseball for a week and walk around New York, which was just fantastic. I just walked around it every day for hours and hours and hours. And I
• 2:14:29
  I ended up going to New York.
• 2:14:32
  Unknown: An Englishman in New I
• 2:14:34
  Unknown: think I I think someone wrote a song about it. Yes. Yes. Mister Sting wrote a song about it. I heard it the other day, actually, coming through the supermarket, Tanoi. Went, oh, it's that old thing.
• 2:14:44
  Yeah. And I, of course, I was walking around Roger going, hello, chaps, and all I wasn't really. It wasn't at all. But it it was a lot of fun. I got very jealous of of that entire culture, though, in baseball stadiums because it was I went in
• 2:14:58
  when when did I go? Last week of August or first week of September. It was so humid and hot, and I loved it.
• 2:15:04
  And I would end up going to the ballpark every night and bumping into the same people because they all had sort of seats there. You know, there's some guys from, like, Joe's Grocery, you know, four of them. And I met him three times going to sit because, I don't know, it was in somebody was playing the Yankees, and I just ended up going to watch it. And ended up talking to them, and it was like an insight into you just get a little sort of look into how these people were acting and what they were doing. They were good and very friendly, and I just thought but it was the fact that you can go out on a night and sit down there for hours,
• 2:15:35
  talk to your mates, because it's a talker's sport. There's a of talking going on, which, you know, I have to do that because I'm like you. Right? Can't stop yakking.
• 2:15:42
  And
• 2:15:43
  they're all warm and they're buying this cheap beer, which I read every all the English got, the beers got no booze in them going good. That means I don't want don't want to get popped up. Yeah. And it's all warm and lovely and I thought, and it didn't cost much. It really didn't. I mean that was 86, it probably cost a bomb now because it
• 2:16:01
  was peanuts,
• 2:16:02
  $8 for a ticket or something, it was nothing and I just went this is so great and they have kids there all jumping around, and I thought this is a really good vibe. It it was. It's love it was lovely then. I don't know what it's like now, but I really enjoyed it. Yeah. Yeah. I did. Very much. It's held a little more than a woke wokeness hasn't
• 2:16:23
  Unknown: hasn't
• 2:16:25
  jaded it, if you wanna say that. Still very family oriented.
• 2:16:29
  Yeah. You might wanna tell your sons to pay attention to the Atlanta Braves. Of course, I lived in Atlanta for
• 2:16:36
  many years, but that they've been around in one form or another
• 2:16:40
  for a hundred and forty seven years.
• 2:16:43
  So they were in Boston originally,
• 2:16:45
  and they they're off to the hottest start in the history of the franchise.
• 2:16:50
  Unknown: Oh, nice. So,
• 2:16:52
  Unknown: no, they should have a hell of the back half of the year. So tell you something to watch them. Pay attention to them. They're just the the comeback kids, man.
• 2:17:01
  Unknown: Pretty exciting. We we were watching that Japanese lad, that huge Japanese lad that plays for Los Angeles. Yeah. Just fantastic.
• 2:17:09
  Yeah.
• 2:17:11
  There's some things that he did, and we watched the World Series or something because my son really got into it. He said, I need to go and play. I said, well, there's a just go dance, go on his and balls. It's just it's a big kid's game for grown up. It really is a kid's game, and that's what makes it so fun. Everybody go over here goes, oh, it's rounders and all that. Go, yes. So what? Go, it's just fun.
• 2:17:31
  And we watched this thing, and I said, it's a pity you watched this this match. He said, why? I said, you've probably seen one of the greatest matches ever. It's like this stuff has never been done before. He said, it's really a pity that you came in here, but, yeah, it's it's been a lot of series,
• 2:17:47
  Unknown: you're still talking.
• 2:17:49
  Mhmm.
• 2:17:50
  And we're actually playing Toronto.
• 2:17:52
  So tonight would be the third game we beat it. Right? And they were playing LA last year, I think. I wasn't following it last year. I just started kinda following
• 2:18:01
  and got the My mother was a big big huge Braves fan, and I just Right.
• 2:18:07
  Started. They've been having this fabulous year and gotten into watching them, and,
• 2:18:12
  it's good. It's a good distraction for me, but,
• 2:18:15
  Unknown: I've I I see Paul messing with things here. Things are on my He's always messing with things, but it always comes out good. A very good messer. He's a good messer. He is, Roger. He he
• 2:18:27
  Unknown: he is.
• 2:18:28
  I'm I'm
• 2:18:32
  constantly impressed.
• 2:18:34
  Unknown: Yes. Yeah. And just so we'll move away I think we should move away from sports because we probably lost the interest of all our female listeners. I don't blame you. But
• 2:18:44
  my last little parting shot on that is this.
• 2:18:48
  World Cup starts
• 2:18:50
  today,
• 2:18:51
  starts next Thursday, so there'll be no show. No. I'm just joking.
• 2:18:55
  But 08:00 next week, it all kicks off.
• 2:18:59
  I was listening to the show previous to mine, Guy Anderson, and they were talking about, do
• 2:19:04
  they think there'll be a big event?
• 2:19:06
  You know, will it be used? Because the whole eyeballs of the world are focused on this thing. And do they think something will go off? I don't know. I don't know whether it will. I think they'll be just happy enough to sort of distract the whole planet for a month or something and, know, newspapers will just go berserk with the whole thing, but it didn't mean too much to me I have to tell you, but there we go.
• 2:19:24
  Anyway, so there we go. So there will be a show next Thursday, I wouldn't stop it. Anyways, Mexico against somebody. I mean like do I care? No I don't, but the fact that I know it is a bit sad isn't it? So anyway,
• 2:19:37
  yeah.
• 2:19:38
  Anyway, so I guess you watch US political affairs at some point.
• 2:19:44
  Mhmm.
• 2:19:48
  Unknown: I I don't know. Am I back yet?
• 2:19:51
  Are you back? Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. We never even noticed that you'd left, actually. Yeah. Alright. Okay. Alright. There I am. Oh, is that better? Am I crackly? Or Yeah. Yeah. You're still crackle.
• 2:20:04
  Unknown: What I'm gonna have to do is There's an echo. Yeah.
• 2:20:08
  There's gonna be an echo. One second.
• 2:20:12
  I am
• 2:20:15
  I have to leave the studio
• 2:20:17
  on one computer and join the studio on another computer. So if you can check the back room,
• 2:20:24
  Paul, and
• 2:20:25
  once I leave the studio
• 2:20:27
  on
• 2:20:29
  my main system, then you bring me into the studio and I'll launch Zoom on his computer and then bring him in through Zoom.
• 2:20:37
  Unknown: This this is really good. This makes for great radio as well. Yes. Know. And and I apologize for the
• 2:20:46
  Unknown: apologize
• 2:20:46
  Unknown: for the I affair. No. Don't worry. Don't you're doing a good job. It's fine. You you clear off and come back. I'll I'll drop you in, then we'll get rid of you. You just tell me what you want me to do. That'll be fine. Okay. Yeah. Alright. We're we're oh, there's the lead. I'll be here. We're back in a minute.
• 2:21:02
  Unknown: Yeah. You're gonna be back in a moment, and so will I. So,
• 2:21:06
  Paul, let me let me in with my alter ego on the other computer.
• 2:21:12
  Unknown: I will. Alright.
• 2:21:15
  Unknown: So that took care of that.
• 2:21:18
  Now
• 2:21:19
  let's
• 2:21:20
  see
• 2:21:22
  if
• 2:21:25
  I'm back in there yet
• 2:21:29
  and setting the stage for me. Okay.
• 2:21:35
  And while I'm at this,
• 2:21:39
  I will launch
• 2:21:41
  Zoom on the other computer.
• 2:21:47
  And
• 2:21:50
  and then,
• 2:21:53
  okay
• 2:21:59
  so
• 2:22:00
  there we go
• 2:22:02
  now let's get roger
• 2:23:12
  Unknown: Pro public broadcasting show.
• 2:23:14
  It used
• 2:23:15
  to be on PBS stations,
• 2:23:18
  and and it was Globe Tracker,
• 2:23:21
  a couple of Brits,
• 2:23:22
  some young Brit
• 2:23:24
  where they were going.
• 2:23:27
  That
• 2:23:28
  Saturday night, were on Argentina.
• 2:23:30
  And
• 2:23:31
  I had a friend of mine from the record business. He used to work for the Beatles and had, bought land down there
• 2:23:39
  and kept trying me after down there this
• 2:23:43
  that and the other none. God didn't even ever have a passport.
• 2:23:48
  And so finally, I said, well, I'm gonna move to Argentina.
• 2:23:51
  And made
• 2:23:53
  the decision without ever visiting
• 2:23:55
  and ended up visiting on a
• 2:24:01
  trip, but the funny
• 2:24:03
  thing and now which I've been hesitant to do, everyone's hesitant to interact
• 2:24:09
  with the governments respectively.
• 2:24:12
  And so
• 2:24:14
  I had to be
• 2:24:17
  in this tax movement about fifteen
• 2:24:20
  years.
• 2:24:21
  I had a pretty good base on it. I understood what was going on, but I never could isolate
• 2:24:26
  what the other status
• 2:24:29
  Unknown: was. Oh.
• 2:24:31
  So You
• 2:24:33
  gotta hang on just a second. I gotta I gotta switch you over to Zoom now. For fifteen years.
• 2:24:40
  Raj, just just hang on one second. I gotta switch you back over to Zoom. I'm changing.
• 2:24:46
  Unknown: Also Okay. That's bye. See you in a moment. See you later.
• 2:24:51
  Unknown: It's really been fun. Okay.
• 2:24:54
  Unknown: It's been very crackly. Hopefully, Paul's magic will decrackle. What was that cracking? It was a cracking show.
• 2:25:01
  Unknown: Yeah. We're we're getting rid of the crackles.
• 2:25:05
  So let's
• 2:25:07
  relaunch Zoom if we can.
• 2:25:12
  Unknown: Join Good name for a band, that. The Crackles. I quite like that. Yeah. The Crackles.
• 2:25:17
  Unknown: Yeah. Okay.
• 2:25:20
  Unknown: Be old disco, Eric, just for you. Oh, that'd be nice, wouldn't it? Yeah.
• 2:25:24
  Yes. It would. Snap, crackle, and pop.
• 2:25:27
  Unknown: We need to get an AI video done of you with your fantastic new hair dancing to that tune. Yes. That'd be brilliant. Don't you think? That.
• 2:25:36
  Unknown: Yeah. But you know Wait a minute.
• 2:25:39
  Dancer.
• 2:25:40
  I
• 2:25:42
  come from a long proud family of nondancers.
• 2:25:45
  Unknown: Eric, you wouldn't be it wouldn't be if they could put your head onto John Travolta.
• 2:25:52
  Oh, crumbs. That'd be good, wouldn't it? So someone can do that. That'd be great. Good's one way of describing it. I I I suppose. Yeah. I'm sorry. My mind's going a bit oh. I'm just thinking about John Revolta.
• 2:26:04
  Unknown: Yeah.
• 2:26:07
  Unknown: Okay. Now it's Joe. You're back. It would be it would be jolly good. It would be jolly good. How are you keeping up anyway tonight? You okay? You How are you? Full of beans, he said. You know,
• 2:26:16
  Unknown: I'm pretty I'm pretty dabbed the day. You know? I feel alright. You know? That warm up in something really did me a world of good. I feel really quite good now.
• 2:26:24
  Unknown: Yeah. Buenos Tardis. Buenos Tardis. Roger in on your channel, Paul. Buenos Tardis.
• 2:26:30
  Unknown: Oh, Roger. Roger over. Buenos Tardis.
• 2:26:33
  That's how Roger's gonna be. Roger. Roger.
• 2:26:36
  Unknown: Right?
• 2:26:37
  Yep. You're we're not the first one to play this game.
• 2:26:54
  Well, I keep thinking I'm talking, and you're not hearing me, so I don't know what to do here. Let's see. It's life. Testing. Testing. Get stopped. Let's see. 123.
• 2:27:02
  Testing. Testing. 234.
• 2:27:05
  Unknown: We're here in the testicle.
• 2:27:07
  Unknown: One tooth. You got me now? Roger, you sound great.
• 2:27:10
  Unknown: You sound really good.
• 2:27:12
  Unknown: Okay. Good. Thank you. All all that. Okay. So to pick that up, we're left off. I got the only answer.
• 2:27:18
  And the key to what I've been looking for No crackling.
• 2:27:23
  Okay. No cracking. In the in the passport application, Eric, so I went ahead and moved to Argentina,
• 2:27:30
  and I I lived down there for nine years. So by the Andes,
• 2:27:34
  that pretty much directly
• 2:27:36
  West of Buenos Aires,
• 2:27:38
  where, unfortunately, I'm sorry to talk to you about what's going on in Argentina
• 2:27:43
  if you don't know.
• 2:27:45
  It will never be the same. Okay?
• 2:27:47
  And it's very sad. You know about that?
• 2:27:51
  Don't know?
• 2:27:52
  They they're moving 300,000
• 2:27:54
  Israelis down to Patagonia,
• 2:27:57
  and The US is paying for it. No. What what's going on in Argentina?
• 2:28:02
  They're they're moving 300,000
• 2:28:04
  Jews from Israel Yes. To Patagonia.
• 2:28:08
  Unknown: What?
• 2:28:09
  But there's for the Welsh in Patagonia, wasn't it?
• 2:28:13
  Unknown: There's a town down there that does speak Welsh. Yes. Is it for the You have There were a lot of Welsh in Argentina.
• 2:28:19
  Paul, you have not heard about That's why Argentina
• 2:28:22
  Unknown: play rugby.
• 2:28:26
  They, they they Oh, yeah. In Patagonia. It's
• 2:28:29
  to do with,
• 2:28:31
  we I'm sure we mentioned it briefly a couple of weeks ago. To do with some law.
• 2:28:36
  It's an argentinian
• 2:28:38
  it's a law down there that if land is unoccupied or something for a long time or is classed as unusable
• 2:28:45
  other people can come in and claim it and they've manipulated that surprise.
• 2:28:50
  Unknown: God. So They've been buying that lane. Never seen anything like
• 2:28:55
  Unknown: before. What? Is it must be a world's first or is it thousand and first? Nate. Whatever. Paul, are we have we got a real big lag here or what's going on?
• 2:29:06
  Unknown: Hello?
• 2:29:08
  Unknown: We're plagued. You were plagued with problems today. You shouldn't you shouldn't have any longer a lag than normal on the radio ranch.
• 2:29:17
  And but I am I am devoting resources to try and speed things up a little bit. You guys just
• 2:29:24
  continue.
• 2:29:25
  Unknown: Anyway, that's going on. They're moving a bunch of them down there in Patagonia,
• 2:29:29
  down in Southern Chile and Argentina. They've been planning it for years. It was in Theodore Herzl's book
• 2:29:37
  in the late eighteen hundreds. The only places for them were either The Middle East or Patagonia, so they've been setting this up for a while. They're so sneaky about it, though, of course. You know the president Malou down there? That's not his name is shortened. It's Malustein or something. And guess who else's family names is the same thing?
• 2:29:58
  Netanyahu.
• 2:29:59
  I'll be darned.
• 2:30:01
  Come on.
• 2:30:03
  Yep. Sure enough.
• 2:30:05
  Unknown: And, Peter Oh, slap my thigh. What a what a surprise.
• 2:30:10
  Yep. Oh, yeah. Because he he occasionally some
• 2:30:15
  it's a bloke who wears a bare mat on his head.
• 2:30:20
  Unknown: Peter.
• 2:30:22
  Okay. I don't I don't know what's going on here.
• 2:30:26
  I don't know if we can yak. Can you hear me, Paul? Lag.
• 2:30:31
  Yeah. Okay. I thought we had a little bit of lag time there. Let's see if we can get it straightened out. Anyway, I'll just say over when I'm finished. So if you haven't heard,
• 2:30:40
  Peter Thiel bought a a huge
• 2:30:44
  mansion in the very high end part of Buenos Aires, and he's moving his whole family down there.
• 2:30:51
  The
• 2:30:52
  one of the ministers let the Israeli company get in and went over and bought all the water rights for the Andes
• 2:31:01
  for about halfway down or something.
• 2:31:04
  There were some huge forest fires
• 2:31:06
  down there, last summer.
• 2:31:08
  And funny enough, they caught two Israelis
• 2:31:11
  with Israeli passports and lighters that had been lighting fires to the land. I just the the the coincidences
• 2:31:20
  just go on and on.
• 2:31:23
  Over.
• 2:31:28
  Unknown: Well we're going to slightly apologize we're having a few technical
• 2:31:34
  difficulties here as you can tell Ecuador is a long way away New
• 2:31:39
  York or wherever it may be so it's gone a little bit pear shaped. My apologies for that. Although I don't know why I'm apologizing because there's nothing I could do to stop it. No. It was the vagueness of the intent prove it. Struck. So we had a bit at the beginning and we've had a, we've had a good run for over two hours just about. Okay.
• 2:31:56
  Unknown: Well, Todd, the wizard here, might get the wizard might straighten it out. But Ecuador looks an interesting place, know, and, Uruguay is another
• 2:32:06
  one.
• 2:32:08
  Unknown: Like Uruguay.
• 2:32:10
  I like Uruguay very much. Yes. It's
• 2:32:13
  Unknown: it's it's very, very difficult, Roger, unfortunately.
• 2:32:17
  Unknown: Okay. Well, I'm just gonna shut up until Paul can figure out what we're gonna do. Are you still there, Roger? Eric. It's impossible. Banter. I think hell, I never know, Eric.
• 2:32:26
  One second to the next.
• 2:32:31
  Okay.
• 2:32:35
  Now I'm gone for good right now. Vamos.
• 2:32:38
  Vamos.
• 2:32:39
  Unknown: No. I think you're I think you're there, Roger. That's great. Good.
• 2:32:44
  Can you guys hear me?
• 2:32:46
  Unknown: Yes.
• 2:32:48
  Unknown: Roger, can Yeah.
• 2:32:50
  Okay.
• 2:32:51
  So you guys can you guys can hear me. Right?
• 2:32:56
  Okay.
• 2:32:57
  Then it's a resource issue. I'm down one computer. Normally, do this with three computers and I only have two.
• 2:33:05
  That's why
• 2:33:08
  things are a little weird. So, I'm just going to close some things that absolutely don't need to be open and. Yeah. We should start. We'll see if that helps. Couple minutes. Yeah. Okay. Hopefully, we will.
• 2:33:21
  Unknown: Anyway,
• 2:33:22
  Eric, I was living there for about nine years
• 2:33:26
  and liked it. It's the High Andes, High Desert next to the Andes.
• 2:33:31
  They grow a lot of fruit there and all that kind of stuff, nuts, etcetera. I liked it, but I'd I was in a bad accident down there, and I was ready to leave after this small town. It wasn't a very large town.
• 2:33:46
  And a friend of mine from Atlanta heard me on a radio show,
• 2:33:50
  and,
• 2:33:51
  and I got ahold of him. We hooked up, and he lives up here. And I came up to visit and felt when I could go to an ATM machine
• 2:34:00
  and put in a card and pull dollars out,
• 2:34:04
  I was hooked.
• 2:34:06
  Ecuador's on the dollar,
• 2:34:09
  and that just makes life so much easier.
• 2:34:12
  But there's an advantage still
• 2:34:15
  in the fact that Ecuador
• 2:34:17
  doesn't have
• 2:34:19
  The printing press.
• 2:34:21
  So they can't inflate the circulating
• 2:34:24
  medium.
• 2:34:25
  They have to borrow it from The States, from the you know who.
• 2:34:29
  And so,
• 2:34:30
  it's just all these very economical to live here, and it's just a nice place. Climate perfect.
• 2:34:36
  Food's wonderful. People are friendly.
• 2:34:38
  I if you said Roger name me a negative, I couldn't name you a negative about living here.
• 2:34:50
  I don't know if you got that or not.
• 2:34:54
  Oh, jolly good.
• 2:34:57
  I
• 2:35:00
  don't know if you got what I said or not there, guys. Oh, you're still there? That's good.
• 2:35:04
  Unknown: It's it's I'm here. Unfortunately.
• 2:35:08
  Oh,
• 2:35:09
  Unknown: mangoes?
• 2:35:09
  Yeah. We got mangoes. It's just it's technically
• 2:35:13
  Unknown: yeah.
• 2:35:14
  Are are we are we hearing
• 2:35:18
  Unknown: I hear you.
• 2:35:19
  Unknown: What we've got such a lag. It's almost impossible to actually We'll get the rhythm of the conversation. Me. Well, have me back another day with this, when we don't have to fight this technical battle.
• 2:35:32
  Unknown: It's called La Lucha. It's a it's a fight. La Lucha.
• 2:35:37
  Unknown: I think we I've I've thrown just about every resource at it that I think have to do. Roger. Is there any way you could come in directly, Paul?
• 2:35:48
  Unknown: Is there any way Roger can just come into this studio directly on his browser?
• 2:35:52
  Unknown: Well, he might be able to, but that that's what the crackle was coming from was was latency in his browser.
• 2:35:59
  We can try that.
• 2:36:03
  Unknown: Let's Last ditch effort.
• 2:36:05
  There's any audience This
• 2:36:07
  is a last ditch effort.
• 2:36:09
  Unknown: Yeah. This is a last ditch effort. So okay. I'm gonna switch Roger back over to the other
• 2:36:16
  back over to the other feed. So
• 2:36:19
  which is probably gonna cause a couple of echoes,
• 2:36:22
  but I will I will get rid of that quickly.
• 2:36:27
  Alright. Now he's gonna be coming back in the studio shortly.
• 2:36:32
  Unknown: I just wonder if Roger can come directly from where he is straight into here. That's what I'm trying to do. Isn't that is that what you're planning? Can't you just get the link and just come straight in?
• 2:36:43
  Unknown: That's what
• 2:36:45
  I'm trying to do. Oh, well. I'll bring him bring him in through the browser.
• 2:36:50
  But and I reset the sound channel while we were at it, so maybe that helps. Well, Eric, at least it's got you to forget about the scratch on your car. It has.
• 2:37:00
  Unknown: Yes. Yes. Well, it's making me scratch. Yeah.
• 2:37:04
  Might scratch myself, actually. Yes. So
• 2:37:08
  that's my head. Alright.
• 2:37:11
  Unknown: Yeah. I've got I've got some windows somewhere around looking at yeah. Are
• 2:37:17
  Unknown: we are we there?
• 2:37:18
  Unknown: We're getting there.
• 2:37:22
  Roger join.
• 2:37:24
  Okay. Roger should be in the
• 2:37:26
  Unknown: Anyway, what's what's what's
• 2:37:31
  Unknown: Am I coming through okay? Am I coming through all busted up or no?
• 2:37:35
  Unknown: Hello, Roger.
• 2:37:37
  Unknown: Hello, Roger. Alright. I I think we've solved all the problems, haven't we?
• 2:37:42
  Well, okay. You sound fine now. We might, Don. You yeah. Are we in real time, Roger? Can you hear me now? I hear yeah. Hear you now. Now. Now. Yes. I hear you. No no fooling.
• 2:37:53
  Unknown: Oh, look. No. Sounds good.
• 2:37:55
  Sounds too funny.
• 2:37:57
  It's fantastic. We got we got twenty five seconds left. No. I'm teasing. We've got about twenty minutes left.
• 2:38:03
  Okay.
• 2:38:04
  Unknown: I tell you, I I I was gonna touch on a subject I know is near and dear to your heart, Paul,
• 2:38:10
  and that's our friends, our good buddies.
• 2:38:13
  And I've been watching some
• 2:38:15
  somehow stumbled in some video as on genealogy
• 2:38:19
  research on them,
• 2:38:21
  and they trace them back on the male side
• 2:38:25
  to,
• 2:38:26
  well, to The Middle East in the in the the for the the
• 2:38:30
  whatever
• 2:38:32
  they call the an area they call the I can't remember. Levant. The Levant. Mhmm. But on the female mitochondria,
• 2:38:41
  they traced it back to four women
• 2:38:43
  in Europe,
• 2:38:45
  main one in Italy that were not Jewish.
• 2:38:49
  But yet,
• 2:38:51
  you're only a Jew if your mother was a Jew, but yet her maternal
• 2:38:56
  genealogy
• 2:38:57
  wasn't from Jewish
• 2:38:59
  because it was from Gentiles
• 2:39:03
  or somebody. Right?
• 2:39:06
  Yeah. Boy, how's that for a tongue twister?
• 2:39:10
  Unknown: It get it's complicated up there that in the end
• 2:39:14
  you have to go, is it worth me spending the rest of my life trying to sort of sort it all out? It's almost as if there are enough sort of immediate problems and things really from the last two or three hundred years that more than enough to go on, I think. Although, you know, tunneling into the ancient history of it is is something that I do do every now and again.
• 2:39:34
  Unknown: Uh-huh. Let me because I don't know if I presented my theory here, my thesis to, Eric. Eric, have you heard my thesis on these people? Do you remember
• 2:39:42
  No. If we went over it? I don't remember it. If you if you can remind me, please, that'd be great. Okay. I listen. It'd be great because I don't this is the riddle I don't believe they can answer.
• 2:39:53
  K. Mhmm. They claim through all the rabbis
• 2:39:56
  to be descendants of Abraham,
• 2:39:59
  Isaac, and Jacob. Right? Mhmm. And even half of them study the Torah, which is Genesis,
• 2:40:06
  Exodus, and the first few books of the Bible, ironically enough. But you can go to Genesis and again in Exodus
• 2:40:14
  and look on both pages. I forget the verses, but a page after page after page after page,
• 2:40:20
  both sides to the side, both sides of the paper. Probably over with exodus,
• 2:40:25
  probably over a thousand generations. Okay? The begats.
• 2:40:29
  You know? So and so begat so and so begat so and so. You know that
• 2:40:33
  part?
• 2:40:34
  Yep. Those are all male.
• 2:40:38
  If you're only a Jew because your mother was a female, but you're along the lineage of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, where did that female lineage break off of that thousand
• 2:40:49
  plus generations of males?
• 2:40:53
  They come off of there and had to do it, please. If not, you're just total imposters, aren't you?
• 2:40:59
  Because this thing goes back to the ancient orients of Judaism about being your mother has to be you. So to me, they're all imposters, and none of them can answer that question.
• 2:41:12
  Unknown: It's a riddle. No. It's because man?
• 2:41:15
  Well, it's only a it's only a riddle if you're not prepared to evaluate
• 2:41:20
  what the evidence is and then it's not a riddle at all actually,
• 2:41:23
  but no one's put very few people
• 2:41:26
  are prepared to actually have that discussion for probably understandable reasons I guess,
• 2:41:32
  but it's it's pretty important. Was I mentioned earlier on in the Shire, heard a good interview recently, actually it's not recent, think it's a couple of months old,
• 2:41:42
  William Fink who's an American who knows a lot about this stuff,
• 2:41:46
  he was on the James Delling Pole show recently
• 2:41:50
  and James Delling Pole is,
• 2:41:53
  he interviews a lot of interesting people, some of the shows are great, some just like this one
• 2:41:59
  you know it's just it just comes with the territory. But it was there was a very interesting exchange about towards the end of it, which made the show go on for another fifteen minutes,
• 2:42:08
  which was to do with really getting clear
• 2:42:11
  about
• 2:42:12
  who these people are
• 2:42:14
  and who they who they only could be.
• 2:42:17
  And Fink was really good at going through all of these words, whole clutch of them which I've touched upon briefly here. We don't sort of plow into it. I'd love to at some point, but
• 2:42:28
  and why they basically reveal the true story. And James Delingpole to his credit because it was difficult for him he sort of you know one of the things he was saying was well Jesus loves everyone that that was the gist of it and Fink says basically
• 2:42:42
  well you've got to read it to find out that that's not true
• 2:42:45
  and it isn't true and this is one of the things that I say here is that you know the problem one of the problems you've got with so called Christianity
• 2:42:53
  is that they don't read their own manual they don't they certainly don't communicate what's actually in it They communicate all the nice bits.
• 2:43:02
  Hippie Jesus loves everyone. This is simply not true. It's not true. Misinterpret
• 2:43:07
  Unknown: much of it because in Genesis,
• 2:43:09
  and again, in Romans nine eleven, I believe,
• 2:43:13
  Jacob have
• 2:43:15
  I loved, Esau have I hated. You know Brent? Brent's the the big translation guy. We pinned him down on our show on that because
• 2:43:23
  I say it thinking it's a literal thing, and I'll be like, no. You can't take it like that. Oh, no. But Brent said it's really a literal translation.
• 2:43:32
  Jacob have I loved, Esau have I hated, Esau who? Esau Edom. What is the big picture of what we do by getting
• 2:43:41
  you out of their grasps
• 2:43:44
  of legality
• 2:43:45
  and jurisdiction
• 2:43:46
  is, I believe, in the big picture, Paul, that in Esau, Edom has tricked us into letting
• 2:43:52
  letting
• 2:43:54
  them steal the birthright back.
• 2:43:56
  It has to be voluntary.
• 2:43:58
  They have They get away. Yeah.
• 2:44:00
  Unknown: Well, they haven't stolen it back. They just desperately would like it back, but they can't have it. And it's No. No. It's not. I think one of the reasons why we're in such a pickle and the reason why they've had such traction
• 2:44:10
  and why we're seeing the events that we're seeing right now is that we have we have drifted away from it but that's due to the fact that most of our own people are not
• 2:44:20
  understandably
• 2:44:24
  they don't they don't know know it they know something else that churches have been peddling for a long time to expand the bums on seats business it's a nonsense the whole thing is silly
• 2:44:35
  and when you read the manual correctly
• 2:44:37
  you go oh so that's it You go, yeah. It's not rocket science,
• 2:44:42
  but it you know? Yeah.
• 2:44:46
  Unknown: No. No. Go ahead. I I want you to finish. Let me ask. No. No. It's just I mean, that's it. You it's you don't think that that you don't they stolen the birthright back? Look at who's got all the wealth.
• 2:44:59
  Unknown: Yeah. But they can't have it. It don't matter because the I don't think it doesn't matter to me.
• 2:45:04
  Well, I mean, it might be, but it's not wealth. It's it's not wealth as such. It's a currency system that they've used. The whole thing is just one lie after a no. It doesn't matter. Worse it's supposed to be stolen. All that. I agree with all that, but it's still wealth, and they're the kings of the castle, and they're
• 2:45:22
  Unknown: running the countries and all
• 2:45:24
  that kind of stuff. So I kinda consider that to be our birthright, and we're down there as the borrower and the lender and the slave. And what do we do in our program is turn that around for people. K?
• 2:45:35
  Yeah. I can make them rich overnight, but I can damn sure make them free pretty quick. Paul, were you wanting to say something there? I can, yeah, I can fig I figured this out.
• 2:45:45
  Unknown: The problem is your browser. Edge in The US. Edge. Yeah. The problem is your browser. Edge is using almost a 100% of your CPU, and you just don't have the overhead to be able to get your audio through. I'm gonna switch you to Brave. So Roger's gonna be leaving in just a moment. Alright. And I will switch him to Brave browser. Thank you. And we'll I will do it. I will use it.
• 2:46:10
  Unknown: Anyway.
• 2:46:11
  Sorry, folks. I've got the dash off now because
• 2:46:14
  Unknown: absolutely Anyway
• 2:46:16
  Unknown: thank you very much. That's fine. Good luck, thanks Roger. I really enjoyed talking to you and let's hope we can speak again soon.
• 2:46:24
  Unknown: Very nice. Crackle you free.
• 2:46:28
  Eric, a good day tomorrow. Yeah, thanks for your coming here tonight. Really enjoyed it. Thank you. And thank you for having me on here. Good night everybody. Good night.
• 2:46:36
  Unknown: Make sure you check out that. See you Eric. Bye for now. Bye bye. Bye. Make sure you check out that link for that for
• 2:46:44
  that airbrush.
• 2:46:45
  That will take care of your that'll take care of your little scratch on your car.
• 2:46:56
  Unknown: He's gone.
• 2:46:57
  Unknown: Yeah.
• 2:46:58
  Just gone. He disappeared.
• 2:47:00
  Unknown: Anyway. Okay. As
• 2:47:02
  we wind down and
• 2:47:04
  and as we yeah.
• 2:47:08
  Unknown: I
• 2:47:11
  Unknown: I'll probably edit this last hour off of the podcast it's been
• 2:47:16
  a bit of a
• 2:47:17
  technical trouser
• 2:47:19
  stress fest unfortunately. I think we'll have to get Roger on in a few weeks time and maybe do some pre show checks. I didn't think it would be so so difficult.
• 2:47:27
  Unknown: Whoops, Roger.
• 2:47:29
  I
• 2:47:31
  it's it's just
• 2:47:34
  Edge was just using all of his system resources.
• 2:47:38
  So
• 2:47:39
  there he should be in the back room now and pop him in.
• 2:47:44
  Hey there, Raj.
• 2:47:50
  Unknown: Let me have a look. There he is.
• 2:47:52
  Unknown: Hey, Raj. Are you back?
• 2:47:56
  Unknown: Oh, Roger. Okay. Oh, alright. Does Brave do my treat my resources better than Microsoft? Absolutely.
• 2:48:03
  Unknown: You sound perfect.
• 2:48:05
  Unknown: Alright. So, anyway in the first place.
• 2:48:08
  Unknown: I'm
• 2:48:09
  sorry. Yeah.
• 2:48:13
  Unknown: Well, I guess so. We'll we'll learn that lesson.
• 2:48:16
  Unknown: Yeah. Well, you you you've driven Eric to drink. He's he's gone to bed. Oh, god. Oh, god. Alright. He's terrible.
• 2:48:24
  He's
• 2:48:25
  scratched guts today, so he's
• 2:48:27
  He's going away to deal with that. But, anyways, it's nice to be able to talk to you properly for the first time
• 2:48:32
  Unknown: Paul. It's just quite pleasure. Hello, Roger. Hello, Paul. It's such pleasure. Maybe he's gone to, scratch his itch or something.
• 2:48:41
  Maybe.
• 2:48:42
  Anyway, well, thanks for inviting me. I'm sorry to be so late and
• 2:48:47
  intermittent and
• 2:48:49
  garble. Sometimes I just can't help it.
• 2:48:56
  Unknown: Are you kidding me? Does he do it again? And I have a proper crack at it. Yeah.
• 2:49:04
  Unknown: Have you heard
• 2:49:08
  Unknown: No. It's gotta be his bandwidth.
• 2:49:10
  Unknown: It's gotta be his bandwidth. I don't wanna do the crackling again, Paul. Albania, what's going on in Albania?
• 2:49:15
  Unknown: I didn't even touch anything. No. It's no. It's your bandwidth. We don't have hardly have any problems ever. So, anyway, do you know what's going on in Albania
• 2:49:25
  over there?
• 2:49:29
  Unknown: So,
• 2:49:30
  Roger, I've got you in real time, and
• 2:49:33
  I've now got Paul lagging.
• 2:49:36
  Unknown: Okay then I'm Just shutting
• 2:49:40
  Unknown: one of these
• 2:49:43
  things it's just what's known as a shit fest.
• 2:49:47
  Unknown: Ray Higgins used to say say,
• 2:49:50
  some days you get the bear,
• 2:49:54
  and some days the
• 2:49:56
  bear gets you.
• 2:49:58
  Unknown: Yeah. Well,
• 2:50:00
  there you go.
• 2:50:04
  Anyway, we've all got the football to look forward to next week.
• 2:50:08
  I don't wanna.
• 2:50:10
  Unknown: Albania,
• 2:50:11
  I saw clip
• 2:50:13
  as a
• 2:50:16
  a couple of miss
• 2:50:18
  miss
• 2:50:19
  Trump's daughter, who is stunningly
• 2:50:22
  beautiful, obviously.
• 2:50:24
  They were on a cruise. Obviously.
• 2:50:27
  They flew in over there, a friend of theirs picked him up in his, in his boat and,
• 2:50:32
  happened to be Nathan Rothschild. I'm sure you wouldn't be surprised. And they were sailing around
• 2:50:38
  on the Mediterranean. Old military
• 2:50:43
  thing on it with all kinds of tunnels and this, and there's a bird sanctuary for migrating birds and five miles of pristine
• 2:50:51
  white beaches. So they had the,
• 2:50:54
  the the prayers of Albania there who, miss Kirchner, said he had never met in his political
• 2:51:01
  circles,
• 2:51:02
  and they invited him out to the Rothschild.
• 2:51:07
  And
• 2:51:08
  it seems like he wants to buy that island and build this really luxurious,
• 2:51:14
  huge
• 2:51:17
  bird
• 2:51:21
  treaty. They've already done that in the background, and they're worth it.
• 2:51:27
  They flip and were demonstrating yesterday.
• 2:51:30
  We'll see who wins. The Kershuns and Rothschilds
• 2:51:33
  versus the 100,000 Albanians.
• 2:51:41
  Unknown: Things and all this kind of stuff and sort of a
• 2:51:46
  of wealth to me it just if that's what it's supposed to be it just looks
• 2:51:52
  yeah I mean what they you know what's the
• 2:51:56
  point I really
• 2:51:57
  I just don't get it I mean thankfully
• 2:52:01
  Yeah. Ego. I guess I guess it is. I get it's ego.
• 2:52:07
  Uh-huh. Yeah. It must be. And so
• 2:52:10
  Unknown: anyway, I just saw a clip on that. I had not heard anything about it until yesterday.
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  Going on in your backyard.
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  Unknown: Henry Novak.
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  Is that what you're talking about? Yeah.
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  Unknown: Yes.
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  A tragedy.
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  What a It They had partially reported to parliament. They said,
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  Unknown: we ain't hearing that, but I think You know more than I do, really.
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  They've
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  I don't sort of
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  Did you
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  Unknown: Partially
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  in front of parliament?
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  Unknown: No.
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  I haven't. Do you know, is it is this Rupert Lowe that you're talking if that's him or not. It's somebody who very
• 2:53:11
  Unknown: commission or something to study the gang rape thing for two weeks, and this
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  was part of their report. He said the rest was gonna come out, and I think they squashed it down and said, no. It
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  isn't. I
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  Unknown: I
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  think
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  it is him. His
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  party now it's turned into a party called hardening people's attitudes which is a long time coming and it needs to and a fact that
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  even though they think they might squash it
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  whatever they might mean by that, won't be able to other channels.
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  People don't realize
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  that when they get to a certain scale they've got just as much influence as the so called but they are they're being chewed out.
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  Unknown: What it reminded me of?
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  When Brent told us the story about how king Henry the eighth
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  went out and did that study on monasteries
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  and then came back that
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  with that to club the Catholics.
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  Unknown: Mhmm.
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  Unknown: Yeah. What was that in terms of the the amount of wealth that were, you mean? I've all I know is I vaguely remember the story, but that's how he attacked the pope was went out and gave himself the political justification
• 2:54:40
  Unknown: Oh,
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  horrors. Okay. I'm not aware of that. That would be interesting. I won't mind looking at that.
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  I mean, the reformation.
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  The
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  Catholic church was,
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  had done a lot of good,
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  but also at its higher levels just like all these human organizations was getting rotten you know they were just charging money indulgences and things like this yes hey to get buried people can afford
• 2:55:28
  to die the whole thing is basically when types of men get together
• 2:55:33
  they just basically overplay their hand again and again and again until the people break and
• 2:55:39
  that's really what's happening right now as well. There's nothing we're not facing I mean the form of what we're facing is different but the essence of it is exactly the same. It's no different at all. But
• 2:55:52
  Unknown: moment. Is it this this gentleman's death no whack?
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  I I I mean, I'm just waiting for it. I'm waiting for it at our place too. It almost happened. In fact, it may have happened at our place this week. Did you hear about that,
• 2:56:06
  piece of section they tried to put in the National Defense Authorization Act? That's an act that comes up every year. Okay? And do you know what they tried to slip in this year?
• 2:56:17
  Unknown: I I saw is it the no. It's it's not to do with this proposed unification
• 2:56:22
  or
• 2:56:23
  takeover of the US military by Israel. Is it is it that way? Yes. Merging the two. Fusion surge that gives them the last
• 2:56:31
  Unknown: refuge.
• 2:56:32
  There's a a
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  one percentage
• 2:56:35
  of stuff that they don't get, and this even gives them,
• 2:56:39
  permission
• 2:56:40
  to get and use that too. So yeah. But the the feedback
• 2:56:44
  was so big in just a over the weekend
• 2:56:48
  that it's pulled from the bill.
• 2:56:51
  It's been pulled from the bill.
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  Unknown: Well, the the mere fact that it's being proposed is an outrage. If that It is. I what don't to use to describe it. Trouble, and they're they're
• 2:57:00
  Unknown: trying to see well, yes, it is. It's them and them trying to push because they use that
• 2:57:08
  form of it's called legal presumption.
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  Okay? It's what they use on everything,
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  and legal presumption
• 2:57:15
  is a fact that's based upon another fact, a conclusion that's based upon another fact.
• 2:57:22
  So they've got this thing from the bankruptcy, and we got these people who gonna put in slavery here. And then we ask them, are you a slave? And they say, yes. And so we're just gonna proceed on that presumption
• 2:57:33
  that we're always gonna get their agreement. And to stop us, somebody's gotta stand up in front of us to stop us. That's how you gotta stop these guys right there.
• 2:57:41
  Unknown: Yeah.
• 2:57:43
  Oh, well, also, I think it's it's like they did it's like it's not just them. It's any sort of group. What they do is they put an idea forward, and it gets pushed back. And
• 2:57:51
  then a few months later, they'll push it again, and it gets pushed back again. And they just keep on coming. And in the end, people just sort of succumb. They get bored with it. Oh, it's not even the right word, but it's just a whittling away of resistance. And in the end, it goes through because people can't be bothered to deal with it anymore. It's just an exhausting tactic.
• 2:58:09
  Unknown: And that's why Thomas Jefferson said the only answer is constant vigilance.
• 2:58:15
  Unknown: It is.
• 2:58:16
  Well, look, Roger. It's been I hear somebody tickling the keyboards in the background, do I? Yeah. That means that means we're at the end of the show. That's the that's the thing we we Goodness.
• 2:58:26
  Yeah. We end at fifty eight minutes past the hour, so we've got about forty seconds to go. Anyway, look. The bit that was fun was fun, but we never really fully got going, unfortunately, because of technical issues today, but never mind. So what I'll do is we'll we'll sort it out again going forward. You've been really crystal clear and crackle free for the last sort of ten or fifteen minutes. Unfortunately, wasn't it wasn't fifteen minutes. Brave. Brave.
• 2:58:49
  Yeah. We'll be back again same time next week. Thank
• 2:58:54
  I've got Ian Clifford on, I think, first hour next week. Eric probably in the second hour, and possibly Dave Gahari in hour three. So we'll keep you posted on everything. Have a cracking week, everybody, and we'll be back next week. Thank you, sir.
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  Unknown: Little boogie woogie in the background.
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  Unknown: Blasting the Voice of Freedom Worldwide, you're listening to the Global Voice Radio Network.
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  Unknown: Bye bye, boys. Have fun storming the castle.