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Moderna mRNA Questions, Swalwell-Fang Fang Files, Redlining’s Legacy & Gen Z Socialism | TMI Ep 448 · The TMI Show with Ted Rall and Manila Chan

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Hello, everybody. Ted, can I hear you? Hello,
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everybody. I can't hear you. oh good um let me
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see okay oh and and the settings are right this
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time i don't know what manila does to my settings
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i think she deliberately tamps down my voice
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because she's trying to control my male privilege
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and make me unheard. Anyway, thank you so much
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for joining the TMI show with Ted Rolla Manila.
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Chia Manila is out today. Robbie's filling in.
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And so, Robbie, thank you very much for doing
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that. And we're fresh off dProgram. Just a reminder,
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dProgram Q &A show is live in two hours at 12
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noon on YouTube. And Rubble, that's 12 noon East
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Coast time. Thank you for that. How are you doing,
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Robbie? It's just like I just saw you. It's not
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long time, no see. That's for sure. No, for sure.
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Now, I'm trying to pull up the reads for the
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show because I feel bad about you always having
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to read. And for whatever reason, I'm getting
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a blank page. Oh, well, I'm happy to do the honors.
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Well, I appreciate it because unlike, you know,
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you are an educated Yankee, so you're able to
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read and there's no pictures in there for me
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to look at. Oh, well. Yeah. Well, as a person
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who traffics in pictures, I'm never against that.
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All right. Should we just get to it? Sure. Pullex
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is asking where Manila is. Manila is taking her
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boy to school, so she's doing this whole parenting
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thing. And I told her that's really kind of gay,
1:57
just dirty, because she has an obligation to
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you, the viewer, she should be here. Children
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come and go. They're, they're dispensable. I
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mean, you always just treat like a Palestinian.
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That's what the IDF says. Yeah. Yeah. I mean,
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the nine IDF, you know, the American people and
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stuff and yeah, and tomorrow my son is gonna
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be enlisting in the Marine Corps. And oh my god,
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is he really? He is. I thought we said we weren't
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that that wasn't permitted. Here, you are able
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to enlist at 17. Yeah, but you should not permit
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him to do so. Yeah, well, I'm doing everything
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that I can to stop it. So, well, so happens.
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Oh my God, that, I mean, how do you feel about
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that, for real? It sucks. And I was talking to
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him about it. He's just like, well, it's the
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only way that I can really... build a future
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for myself. No, if I don't want to go into debt,
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going through school or whatever, I want just
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what I want to do. I want to defend my country.
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I want to be a patriotic American. And it's like,
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you're not being a patriotic American. You are
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literally mortgaging your mind and your body
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for the Epstein class and for people who hate
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you. I'm very surprised that he's so, I mean,
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is this like a rebellion thing or? Yeah, I'm
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sure it's a big part of it. Because we were talking
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several Robbie is well, they call me Robbie.
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So well dad, you just hate America. I said I
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don't hate America I said I love my country.
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I love my country so much I don't I want it to
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be restored to what the promise of it was and
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I don't want to see you go fight and die for
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Some soulless corporation or even worse some
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foreign country on the other side the world protecting
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pedophiles Yeah, and not to mention these fucking
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recruiters. They say anything. They just lie
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They're just like, Oh yeah, well, you know, you,
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yeah, sure. Well, you will, we'll, we'll, uh,
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you're fine. You know, we, you'll, you'll be
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able to do anything you want, et cetera. No,
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but now it's just him and a bunch of his friends
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from high school. Cause he's a senior tomorrow
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is the first day of school. Oh my God. They're
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all doing it together. Like they're getting together,
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but they're doing it. And the, that they call
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the buddy programs, you get a bonus, you get
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all these things, you get all these promises.
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So it's a lot of social pressure. And just like
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what we're talking about on the program. Buddy
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system, indeed. They're not going to serve together
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in the same unit. Well, that's what that's the
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promise that they're making. And I said, well,
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whatever this guy tells you, you need to get
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it in writing. Yeah, they'll do their best to
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move. Yeah. Look, like Robbie, I went and talked
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to those assholes and they were like, oh, you're
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a cartoonist. You'll be able to go work at Stars
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and Stripes. And I promise this is not a segue
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to talk about the weird story at Stars and Tribes
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newspaper, which. If you want to know my thinking
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about that, go listen to The Last DMZ, which
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posted Saturday. But they were like, oh, you
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could be a cartoonist for Stars and Stripes.
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I'm like, great. Will you put that in writing?
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Well, no. Oh, you would definitely be high up
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in the journalism sector. Really? Can you put
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that in writing? Well, they send you where they
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need you. Oh, you know, they'll help you out
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with college. How much do you need? $13 ,000
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at the time, 1981. Oh, well, we do offer up to
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$5 ,000. So do I get $5 ,000? Well, up to $5
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,000. I mean, it's all bullshit. It's all bullshit.
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It is. And that's what I was telling them. They
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were going to promise you the moon. They'll do
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all these things. And it is incumbent on you
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to make you this note whenever you do this. that
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you get it in writing said, this is the first
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adult decision you're going to make. And we were
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talking to each other said, Dad, there's no jobs
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here. I don't want to be a grocery boy all my
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life. And I don't want to go $100 ,000 in the
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debt to try and start a career before I even
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have a chance to get married or get a house.
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So I mean, I understand where this is. What are
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they? There's not many. Well, actually, it's
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better to work in a grocery store than to go
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kill brown people for fun. Listen, I agree with
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you. But I mean that's what but that's where
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we are. I mean, it's just I don't be a mercenary
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for Israel Or do you want to be a bag boy at
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a grocery store? Do you want to have a chance
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to get married or you have to live with your
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parents and then never and then never get married?
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Maybe blue funk has a comment on this Robbie
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show him the video of the veterans who were asked
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what they would say to their army recruiter and
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All they say is fuck you I have and I also talked
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about what happened with the bonus army back
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in the back in the 20s. This is not new. No,
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it goes back even further than that, right? Like
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in the the revolutionary war veterans were all
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promised land on the western frontier. Only the
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officers got it. The land grants were like, I
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mean, every generation of US Army and other military
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veterans has been repeatedly lied to to get to
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condom into service. And then thrown away like
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discarded snot rags when they were done with
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them. That's how it always is. That's how it
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always is. Ted, you know me, I don't beg. Right.
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I was begging him, do not do this. Yeah, I would
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do the same. If you need me to beg him, I will
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too. I mean, yeah. It won't do any good. He said,
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Dad, I want to serve my country and it's not
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my fault that you hate it. That's what he said.
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That's not serving your country. It's not. I
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mean, look, I would be the first to volunteer
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if our country was under threat. That's just
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not the case. And the US Army is not sent to
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defend the United States. The last time it ever
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had to do that was arguably 1941. Even then,
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that's debatable. I mean, why were we in the
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Philippines? Why are we in Hawaii? Why are we
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in Guam? We invaded Hawaii. All right. Well,
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let's with that I'm really I am sorry to hear
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that I am I was up I mean, no just just on my
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hands and knees and between and after the show
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today I'm gonna be praying again just Begging
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God just to open his eyes Because I can't do
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it. Nothing. I say matters. Nothing. I say he
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does not hear what I say Okay Fuck No, I mean
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that's really I mean the thing is I have met
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so many people who've gone this route They all
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regret it. I've met people who were doing it
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while they were I sat next to a woman who was
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on her way to being deployed for the first time
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She'd never been outside of New York City. She
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was 18 years old and she was scared to death
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and they were sending her to Iraq. The recruiter
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totally lied to her at the time and said, oh,
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you know, you'll probably be doing like research,
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you know, like you'll be in West Germany, you'll
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be in Germany, you know, at a, you know, as doing
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most jobs are supply. No, they were sending her
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into the belly of the beast. I mean, I just,
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I do not know. This is actually a good advice
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to have him read Chris Hedges, what every civilian
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should know about war. It's good. It's worth
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reading. All right. Well, with that, shall we?
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Sure. Sorry. All right. Assume that there had
9:20
been, well, let's see, can you do Jaws? Maybe
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you can do Jaws. Let me see if I can do Jaws.
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I don't know if we have Jaws. I think there's
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Jaws in there. I'm waiting for them to slowly
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appear. Oh, I don't have the jaws. I think that
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Manila is the keeper of the jaws. No, they're
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in the rumble room. I mean, they're in the rumble.
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Yeah, they're in the rumble studio. Hold on.
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Hold on. I think I might have it. Cultural procreation
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at its finest. Why he has the jaws. Did you un
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-jaws? I did. I can see us. Okay, cool. Moderna
9:57
and Merck may have a genuine cancer breakthrough,
10:00
but right now, investors and the public are being
10:03
asked to take the drug maker's word for it. The
10:05
companies announced their Phase 3 InterPath -001
10:08
melanoma trial that met endpoints for recurrence
10:12
-free survival and distant metastasis -free survival
10:16
when personalized mRNA therapy Intazmarin autogene
10:22
was combined with Merck's Keytruda. We've got
10:26
to get like stuff that's written in English.
10:30
Intazmarin is an individualized neoantigen therapy.
10:34
Tumor mutations are sequenced. Up to 34 tumor
10:37
specific neoantigens are encoded into synthetic
10:40
mRNA. Resulting proteins are intended to train
10:45
cytotoxic T cells to recognize and attack malignant
10:49
cells. Sounds cool, I guess. But Moderna has
10:53
released no phase three hazard ratios, absolute
10:57
event rates, confidence intervals, Kaplan -Meier
11:00
curves, whatever that is, overall survival results,
11:04
or detailed adverse event tables. The full results
11:08
are going to come at some point in the future.
11:10
Nevertheless, Moderna's stock went up by over
11:13
177%. Earlier this month, the FDA approved Moderna's
11:20
mRNA flu vaccine called MFluceva. It's in its
11:26
40 ,000 person phase three trial. Flu -like illness
11:29
occurred in just 2 % of recipients versus 2 .8
11:33
% receiving a standard flu vaccine. That's a
11:36
26 .6 % relative vaccine efficacy. but the mRNA
11:41
shot was substantially more reactogenic. Injection
11:46
site pain occurred in 66 % versus 30%. Fatigue
11:52
in 45 % versus 20%. And serious adverse events
11:56
occurred in 2 .2 versus 1 .9%. FDA reviewers
12:01
said that the safety concerns were basically
12:03
nothing new was identified. Perhaps Intazamarin
12:07
ultimately proves revolutionary. Phase two data
12:09
were encouraging. But basically, Moderna has
12:14
issued a glowing press release, watched tens
12:16
of billions of dollars pour into its market value,
12:19
and the evidence is still out there. I have to
12:23
admit, I don't much understand this story in
12:26
its details, Robbie. I don't either, and I don't
12:30
trust them. Yeah, well, I think that's the takeaway
12:33
here, right? What could possibly go wrong with
12:37
injecting yourself with a drug by some company
12:40
that has immunity from prosecution by the US
12:45
government that actively rewrites your genetic
12:48
code? What could possibly go wrong? I don't think
12:50
it, yeah, I don't think it, it sort of rewrites
12:53
your genetic code. Not the whole thing, but part
12:57
of it. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's MRNA. I mean,
12:59
that's what they do. John DeCoccafella would
13:01
know more about this than one of us do, for sure.
13:04
But I mean, my understanding is that's what it
13:06
does. It does rewrite a part of your genome.
13:08
Yeah. And the fact is that they cannot be sued
13:13
if they screw something up. I mean, I think that's
13:18
all that you need to know. No, I get it. But
13:20
I mean, I think it is also insanely cool that
13:23
like, you know, there's going to be there's look,
13:26
you can edit out cancer. That sounds great to
13:28
me, you know. Yeah, but then though, you'd be
13:32
losing all that profit, all that market share.
13:36
So even if you could do it, would you? Well,
13:39
I would. Well, I mean, keep in mind, what is
13:41
your job? Your job is to provide profits for
13:45
your shareholders. If you're the CEO, that's
13:48
your job. That is true. And so cancer is one
13:52
of the largest profit makers that you have. So
13:55
even if you are able to do this, you definitely
13:58
would not do it for the population at large.
14:00
You would do it for the very rich and the very
14:02
important, and everybody else would be screwed.
14:06
True. Yeah, I mean, I guess the implication here
14:12
is that normally you're supposed to have all
14:15
the evidence out in the initial release so that
14:19
financial analysts can... can understand exactly
14:24
whether they should go long or go short on this
14:27
stock. And I guess what this represents is sort
14:30
of the broification of big pharma, right? Where
14:34
it's like less evidence -based and it's more
14:37
hype -based is what I think I see here. Let me
14:43
see. Just done some read here. So John the Cockatilly
14:48
has a question. I missed a lot of the read. vaccine
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still in trials or is it going public with accelerated
14:54
testing? No, it's still in trial. These are the
14:58
results of phase three trial. So, I mean, it's
15:03
pretty extensive. It's like they tested it on
15:05
40 ,000 people. That's not nothing. So, yeah.
15:10
But that's where things are. Yeah. And I'm sorry,
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I'm kind of looking at the chat here. It's harder
15:17
to do this whenever you're trying to that read
15:19
the chat and co -host. And Man Child's saying
15:23
that Rumble is now keeping 20 % of the Rumble
15:27
premium. I've not seen that. I have to do some
15:29
research on that because I know that Rumble premium,
15:33
that's different from the subscriptions that
15:35
people are able to make. So with the subscriptions,
15:38
the credit card company, they take their swipe
15:40
fee, but the show gets 100 % of it. But there
15:45
is supposed to be profit sharing for Rumble premium,
15:47
but what that breaks out to, no one knows. Rumble
15:50
doesn't say, and also they don't say if you get
15:52
it unless someone signs up through your link.
15:55
So they're very opaque with what is it they say.
15:58
Can't trust the Canadians. And then Peter says,
16:02
my daughter joined the Marines in 2029. I tried
16:04
to steer her to the Coast Guard, no dice. She
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was in for four years and had no respect for
16:09
the leaders, but loves her fellows. Well, that's
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what, yeah, that's what it's about, right? It's
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about the camaraderie. No. That's why they're
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doing this whole buddy system. They're trying
16:18
to get people to go in and serve with their friends.
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And it's just, you know, kind of like, well,
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you're a student of history, Ted. You know, when
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the Sullivan's went down with their ship. It's
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the same thing. Yeah. You go in, serve with your
16:33
friends, serve with your family. It's all going
16:36
to be fine. The uniforms look nice. We're still
16:41
very good at propaganda, if nothing else. That's
16:43
the one thing we've got going for us. Well, it
16:45
reminds me, you know, I talked to Pat Tillman's
16:48
mother after, you know, I had that controversial
16:51
cartoon about him. And Mary Tillman told me that
16:55
like the reason that he joined, Pat Tillman joined
16:58
and ultimately was killed in Afghanistan by friendly
17:01
fire. was because his brother had enlisted first.
17:07
Pat was against the war, both Iraq and Afghanistan,
17:11
but he was desperate to try to save his brother's
17:15
life. So the recruiter told Pat that he could
17:19
enlist and be assigned to the same unit as his
17:22
brother and that he'd be able to watch his back
17:25
and protect him. Obviously, that's a lie. They
17:32
did not assign him to the same unit, although
17:37
they were both sort of nearby in separate units.
17:41
And the brother kind of heard on the radio, I
17:44
guess, that Pat had been shot. And so, I mean,
17:49
can you imagine the horror of that, right? Like,
17:51
knowing, like, this is happening, like, on the
17:53
other side of the ridge, but I can't help my
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brother, who came to supposedly save me. But
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can you imagine the line of shit that the recruiter
18:00
in Arizona told Pat Tillman? Like, you know,
18:03
don't worry, you can go and, like, watch your
18:05
brother's back, and, you know, you'll all be
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together, it'll be, like, in familia. I mean,
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it's total crap. It's... So, I mean, honestly,
18:16
it's like, there ought to be a law against the
18:19
shit that military recruiters tell their victims.
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Well, recruiters have a quota. Yeah. I mean,
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they're just like, it's like any other sales
18:27
job. You have a quota, you get bonuses. If you
18:30
don't perform, then you get axed. So, I mean
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- You're motivated to sell them a line of shit,
18:37
just like to tell them anything, whatever. There's
18:40
just words. Who cares? Just get it done. And
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that's what I'm trying to get Thomas to understand,
18:45
but he turned 17 tomorrow. He knows everything.
18:49
Of course. What do I know? I'm just some 49 year
18:52
old guy who talks for a living and then streams
18:56
video games. Seriously, what the hell do I know?
18:58
It's not like I've ever had any trials to go
19:00
through. Right. and also experience and also
19:04
like hearing these many, many stories. I mean,
19:07
Montana's got to have a higher percentage of
19:10
the population to be veterans than many other
19:12
states like New York. And it's like, there's
19:15
got to be older dudes who've served that maybe
19:18
could talk to them and say, tell them what it's
19:20
actually like. Well, he talked to some people
19:22
at church yesterday. Oh, that's good. And the
19:25
pastor is just like... Be careful because a lot
19:28
of Christians who go into the military, they
19:29
stumble and they fall. They fall into the temptations
19:31
of drugs and alcohol and women. Just, no, no,
19:36
guard your, no, guard your testimony, protect
19:37
it. The older veterans just like, it was the
19:40
best time I ever had. I'm proud of you. So, I
19:48
mean, it's just, I don't know, Ted. I'm losing
19:52
my family. I'm so sorry, Robbie. How's Kizzy
19:57
doing with this? We're both worried. She's just
20:00
like, I don't want him to go. I don't want him
20:02
to go. I don't want him to get hurt. I don't
20:03
want him to die. But on the flip side though,
20:07
he's a young man now. He has agency. We've taught
20:10
him. We've taught him everything we possibly
20:12
can. And at the end of the day, and this is the
20:15
worst part, it is his choice. You can't bubble
20:18
wrap someone from life. I think you should could,
20:22
but you can't. Sadly. I don't know. I mean, basically
20:29
he goes, and it's like a form of light enlistment.
20:32
He can't be deployed until he turns 18, but he's
20:36
able to go to start doing a lot of the education,
20:38
able to start doing a lot of the classes, be
20:40
able to go to Missoula, select an MOS he wants
20:43
to get into. He wants to go into recon. This
20:45
is what he wants to do. And it's just like, a
20:52
year ago, you wanted to be a rancher. He said,
20:55
now there's no money there. And he's right. For
20:58
now, I mean, you know, you know, ranching, you
21:01
know, the money comes and goes, right? I don't
21:06
know, man. It's just, I mean, there's just, there's
21:08
no, there's Ted, you've been here. There's no
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jobs. Yeah. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's sparse.
21:15
It's sparse on the, it's light on the ground.
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No question. Yeah. Okay, let's talk about, we'll
21:23
talk about this later. Here and one on one, I'm
21:27
sure. Okay, so newly, do you want JAWS? Oh, sure.
21:32
Freaking JAWS. Sorry, I was looking at the chat.
21:34
No, my apologies. No, you don't have to apologize.
21:37
It's me screwing up. Where the hell did the JAWS
21:40
go? Oh, don't worry about it. We'll just assume
21:41
it's JAWSed. All right, JAWS. Got it. Okay. Success.
21:47
Woo -hoo. All right. Newly declassified FBI records
21:51
are adding an uncomfortable new layer to the
21:54
relationship between former Congressman Eric
21:57
Stull's Swalwell and Chinese intelligence operative
22:01
Chinese Fang, also known as Fang Fang. The documents
22:05
say Fang didn't just socialize with politicians.
22:08
Investigators said she facilitated a scheme involving
22:11
campaign contributions, access to Swalwell, and
22:15
congressional internships. FBI financial analysis
22:19
has concluded that Fang orchestrated conduit
22:23
contributions to Swalwell's campaign on numerous
22:26
occasions between 2013 and 2014, including money
22:31
allegedly directly traceable to Fang herself,
22:34
a foreign national prohibited from contributing
22:36
to federal election campaigns. Investigators
22:39
also recorded an allegation that Fang offered
22:42
to arrange a meeting with Swalwell for a $5 ,000
22:45
campaign contribution and said she could also
22:48
arrange an internship in his office, but that
22:51
that would cost more. According to the record,
22:55
Swalwell acknowledged that he was intimately
22:58
physically involved with Fang Fang. When questioned
23:01
about people she recommended for internships,
23:03
he reportedly said he believed they were coming
23:05
through some Asian American political organization.
23:09
The FBI found insufficient evidence that Swalwell
23:12
himself knowingly participated in a quid pro
23:16
quo scheme and removed him as a subject of that
23:19
investigation. The House Ethics Committee also
23:22
closed its investigation in 2023 and didn't take
23:25
any action. So this was a dude who sat on the
23:30
House Intelligence and Homeland Security committees,
23:33
who apparently, you know, didn't really commit
23:36
a crime. but nevertheless allowed a suspected
23:39
foreign intelligence operative close proximity
23:42
to his personal life, well, and to his penis,
23:44
apparently, political fundraising and potentially
23:47
his congressional staffing. So pretty bad. Well,
23:54
I mean, her mistake has been Chinese, not Israeli.
23:58
Then it would be mandatory. Well, because I mean,
24:02
one's legal, one's not. Explain it to me. Seriously,
24:06
that's the case that I would make if I was Swalwell,
24:08
if I was doing this. Listen, yes, I got honeypotted
24:11
by a cute lady and she was giving me money and
24:16
giving me the goodies between her legs at the
24:19
same time. And if it's okay for Israeli honeypots
24:22
to do it, it's perfectly fine for the Chinese
24:24
to do it too. That's the defense? Of course.
24:31
I mean, it's honest. It's a defense. It's better
24:35
to say, oh, I didn't know. Of course you knew.
24:37
She's a Chinese national, you can tell. It's
24:40
okay. What you could do is just say, well, I
24:42
thought you were for AIPAC. There are Chinese
24:45
Jews. There are, it's true. Bear in mind also,
24:52
whatever the government is releasing here may
24:56
or may not be true. My default setting is never
25:00
believe anything that the government says if
25:02
they told me that the sky is blue I Would I would
25:06
call them liars? Well, that's why so much. I
25:09
don't believe anything they say So, I mean listen
25:13
all I can say is that more power to them if the
25:16
Chinese are able to do this because some married
25:18
guy can't keep it in his pants I Mean that that's
25:23
that's the that's great power politics. That's
25:25
how you play the game You go out and you get
25:29
the goods however it is that you can. You could
25:31
scrape data from data centers. You can send out
25:34
your spies to go steal this stuff. And frankly,
25:36
if Chinese espionage is such a major problem,
25:39
why would the United States bring in millions
25:41
of Chinese students every year to study at our
25:43
universities? That's a great question, actually.
25:46
It really is. Well, I'll think about it. If Chinese
25:49
espionage is such a problem, then why do we have
25:52
Chinese nationals coming from the mainland to
25:55
go work in our laboratories and study in our
25:57
universities if it's such a problem? Right, right.
26:01
Now, I mean, I'm not arguing with you. You're
26:04
right. It's obviously we're not that worried
26:07
about it. No, it's retarded. It's it's a nothing
26:11
burger. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it is. All right.
26:15
Are we ready to Jaws? Shall we Jaws again? Let's
26:19
do it. Let's Jaws this puppy. All right. And
26:27
if you're just joining us, you're watching TMI
26:28
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again from Manila. Manila will be back tomorrow.
26:34
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26:36
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26:42
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26:45
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26:46
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26:51
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26:53
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26:57
I am. I am Manila Chan. Behold my squinty eyes
27:01
and my flowing black locks. There you go. All
27:04
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27:07
every aspect of her. OK, here we go. Awesome.
27:11
Nearly 60 years after housing discrimination
27:14
was deemed against the law, the geography that
27:17
it created may still be influencing something
27:19
as ordinary and consequential as what Americans
27:23
can buy for dinner. A new study in the journal
27:27
Obesity examined nearly 9 ,600 census tracts
27:32
in 201 counties in 38 states, comparing modern
27:36
food environments with the federal redlining
27:38
maps created back in the 1930s. Those maps graded
27:43
neighborhoods for mortgage risk, often penalizing
27:46
areas with large black or immigrant populations
27:49
and helping to determine where banks would and
27:51
would not invest. Researchers, of course, as
27:55
you probably know, have found that neighborhoods
27:57
historically redlined as risky are still significantly
28:01
more disadvantaged today. But the study complicates
28:05
the familiar idea of the food desert. Using structural
28:08
equation modeling, researchers examined pathways
28:12
including housing, transportation, education,
28:15
crime, wealth, social cohesion, and the built
28:18
environment. Poor housing conditions, neighborhood
28:21
disorder, weaker social cohesion, and criminal
28:25
justice -related disadvantage were associated
28:28
with reduced access to healthier food retailers.
28:31
Transportation, wealth, and income were not statistically
28:34
significant pathways in the model. Education
28:37
produced a more complicated, counterintuitive
28:40
association. That suggests that simply dropping
28:43
a supermarket into a struggling neighborhood
28:45
may not help the problem. Businesses respond
28:49
to the neighborhoods around them. Crime, bad
28:53
housing, deteriorated infrastructure, and decades
28:57
of under investment will shape whether grocery
29:00
stores open, remain profitable or shut down and
29:04
leave, while fast food outlets fill the vacuum.
29:09
Researchers say the study is observational and
29:12
can't prove that redlining directly created today's
29:15
food environment. It also doesn't measure everything
29:19
that determines whether food is accessible, including
29:22
its price and its quality. but obviously redlining
29:25
continues to have a market effect. Yeah. Well,
29:30
it's just, it's kind of the debate that I have
29:33
with the heavy JT, uh, yes, about a week ago
29:37
now, you know, some people, people with diabetes
29:40
who are fat, they're fat and have diabetes because
29:43
they chose to be fat and diabetic. And I push
29:46
back saying, no, you, if all you can afford is
29:49
crappy food, and that's all you have access to
29:52
is food that's literally poison. Then is it really
29:55
your fault that the food that you eat is making
29:58
you sick. The answer is no It's not like you
30:00
have a choice No, if you're able to go go to
30:03
Wendy's and if Wendy's has and I'm using when
30:05
he says like Wendy's If you go to Wendy's and
30:08
if they have an organic free -range chicken sandwich
30:12
with no hormones in it For the same price as
30:18
the chicken that's made of sawdust and chemicals
30:20
from Monsanto and you choose the mozzarella burger,
30:25
then yes, I would say you are making a life choice
30:28
that's poor that you're going to regret later
30:30
on. That's not the reality. People get the food
30:33
they're able to afford. It's just like the St.
30:35
Mary's example. If it's $4 for a cup of ramen,
30:39
how much is it going to be for a bag of organic
30:44
lettuce, provided you even get one, or some kind
30:48
of ranch -fed beef from the noxious and the herds?
30:53
It's a reasonable question. Yeah. No, I mean
30:55
obviously it's true I mean if you've ever I mean
30:58
I have lived in food deserts I've lived in like
31:01
the barrio section of upper Manhattan and back
31:05
in the 80s and 90s and like the you know, literally
31:09
You'd have to hike, you'd have to hoof it like
31:13
miles and take a bus with your bags of groceries.
31:17
So it's possible. But in reality, no one's going
31:20
to really do that. You're going to go to the
31:22
delis and bodegas and crappy supermarkets if
31:26
you have any in your neighborhood. That's how
31:28
you're going to eat. I mean, you know, realistically,
31:31
people are not going to go commute for food.
31:34
um and so you know it's kind of like well it's
31:37
a choice i mean it's sort of a choice but like
31:39
you can't be surprised when people uh take the
31:42
path of least resistance because that's you know
31:44
that's what human beings do it's it's in our
31:47
it's in our evolutionary code well it might be
31:50
a choice in a city that has a mass transit but
31:53
if you're in columbia falls and the closest town
31:55
is 20 miles away if you don't have a car what
31:58
choice do you have you can't uber it maybe it'll
32:01
cost you more than the meal Right. I don't know.
32:06
It just it doesn't make any sense. It's just
32:08
this is just more of the ways that are that the
32:13
economy is just simply failing the vast majority
32:15
of people. That's true. And I mean, you know,
32:19
as I'm telling my inner Jamar here, but it's
32:22
amazing to me how how little the American people
32:26
and the voters seem to be willing to do about
32:29
it. And I don't mean like, oh, you should run
32:30
out and vote for Democrats. I'm just like sort
32:33
of saying It's amazing that they're not out in
32:36
the street. It's amazing that they're not furious.
32:38
It's amazing that they're not articulating that
32:41
rage. They're just sort of like passive. Well,
32:45
you know why, don't you? Honestly. SSRIs in the
32:49
water? It's all the drugs, man. It's just, ask
32:52
yourself a question. So when the British, when
32:55
they defeated the Celestial Empire, that's China
32:58
for people who don't read books, in the first
33:02
Opium War, there are a lot more Chinese than
33:05
what there were British in the area. Why didn't
33:07
the Chinese rise up in just in overwhelming numbers
33:11
and overthrow the Manchus then and also drive
33:16
out the foreigners? It's because they were too
33:17
stoned. There's a reason why in the eighties,
33:23
the US used Afghanistan. One of the reasons why
33:25
the Soviets went in there was because of all
33:26
the opium that we were flooding into the Soviet
33:29
Union. Drugs decimate the population of a country.
33:35
That's not a racist thing to say. That's a statement
33:37
of fact. That's a historical truth. People always
33:40
talk about the smallpox on the blankets. It's
33:44
more dangerous than smallpox on a blanket. Fentanyl
33:47
coming across your borders or opium coming across
33:49
your borders, the weed shop, the dispensaries
33:51
on the corner that's driving the testosterone
33:55
count and your men down. And the weed shop that's
33:59
clearly now It's the official scientific consensus
34:04
that it is physically not just psychologically
34:06
addicting, which anyone who really is near anyone
34:09
who does weed can probably attest to. Yeah, I
34:13
mean, that's one of the reasons why I've caught
34:15
flak on it before. I'll catch flak with it now.
34:17
I 100 % fully support the death penalty for drug
34:20
dealers because they are selling a poison that
34:23
is a social a social pathogen and it will destroy
34:28
a people. It nearly destroyed the Chinese. The
34:30
Chinese civilization is over 2 ,000 years old,
34:33
and the British came in a frog's hair of destroying
34:36
China with opium. True. True. And why is it that
34:42
we here in the United States have this tolerance
34:46
to this crap, this poison? I do not understand
34:51
it. I do not understand it. But to answer your
34:53
question, why are people not so mad? Why are
34:55
people not raging? They're too stoned. That could
34:59
well be. Well, do you have another, that's my
35:03
theory. No, I mean, I think, I mean, honestly,
35:04
I think it's the SSRIs in the water and it's
35:07
the weed. I mean, notice, right, the stuff that's
35:09
illegal in terms of illegal drugs is, you know,
35:13
it's, it's stimulants, right? I mean, like, basically
35:17
they're pushing depressants, booze, you know,
35:21
weed. But at least alcohol, though, can make
35:25
people mad. I mean, that's the opposite effect
35:29
of what opium does. It just puts you to sleep.
35:33
Same with fentanyl. Listen, one of the reasons
35:37
I think that, and if I ever got a chance to meet
35:39
your grandfather, I bet you he would vouch, he'd
35:42
probably vouch for me on this. So one of the
35:43
reasons why the French resistance was so militant
35:46
and so gung -ho and so in your face willing to
35:49
burn the world down is because they smoked a
35:51
lot of cigarettes and drunk a lot of booze. Well,
35:54
he certainly did both in vast amounts, and he
35:59
definitely liked to kill Nazis. So there's that.
36:02
All right, let's let's Jaws and do the last story.
36:05
Let's do it. Let me see here. Make it pop up.
36:08
Jaws swipe. There we go. So there's no the icon
36:10
disappears is what happens. And then you go wait
36:12
for the I have to wait for the the thing to respawn
36:15
before it will click. Come on. That's weird.
36:19
There it goes. Well, you're also got to. Hey,
36:23
you also got to remember, I'm using the stellar
36:24
Montana internet. Oh, right. Great. Good point.
36:27
It has to go through some what's left of the
36:29
beef herd. OK. Gen Z has apparently looked at
36:33
capitalism, checked the rent, checked the grocery
36:36
bill, and left it on red. New CBS YouGov poll
36:41
finds just 9 % of Americans under age 30 have
36:45
a very positive view of capitalism. By comparison,
36:49
33 percent of Americans over the age of 65 feel
36:52
that way. Meanwhile, 41 percent of people under
36:55
30 see capitalism negatively. Socialism, on the
37:00
other hand, is go. A separate Cato Institute
37:04
poll found 53 percent of Americans aged 18 to
37:07
29 prefer socialism compared to 20 to 45 percent
37:12
who prefer capitalism. DSA leaders, that's the
37:15
Democratic Socialists of America, say younger
37:18
Americans simply don't share older Americans'
37:21
instinctive faith in the existing economic system.
37:25
Gen Z, of course, entered adulthood amid soaring
37:28
housing costs, student debt, inflation, and a
37:31
labor market increasingly threatened by automation
37:34
and AI. An Urban Institute survey found that
37:38
65 % of people think their generation faces tougher
37:43
economic circumstances than previous generations.
37:46
By the way, I think they're right, and I'm saying
37:47
this as a Gen Xer who was the first totally downwardly
37:51
mobile generation after the boomers. While 52
37:56
% say that they must take greater financial risks
37:59
just to get ahead, more than a quarter of Gen
38:03
Z investors now consider sports betting part
38:06
of their long -term financial strategy. What?
38:10
while more than half of redirected money intended
38:13
for investing into gambling. That's really sick
38:16
and sad. And again, it's like the food desert
38:20
story. I don't blame the victims here. Online
38:23
sports betting should be illegal. And it was
38:25
and it should still be. But basically, capitalism
38:28
is not working for these younger people. And
38:30
I don't blame them for basically determining
38:33
that it sucks. It does suck. I would argue that
38:37
it inherently sucks and that we're just at a
38:39
moment where it's really clear to most people.
38:44
But yeah, I hope that, you know, I hope this
38:49
trend just continues. I don't know who these
38:52
33 % of people are who think that capitalism
38:54
is working for them. I don't know any, but it's,
38:59
yeah. I mean, our system blows. Yeah. I don't
39:05
know. I mean, if this is capitalism, I don't
39:09
want it. I mean, how does, how does mortgaging
39:14
your future make it, that's no future at all.
39:19
All you're doing is, all you're doing is, is
39:23
wrecking the generations that are going to be
39:25
coming after you. Our former chairman of the
39:32
Federal Reserve, he actually told the truth.
39:36
We were just talking about the debt that he was
39:37
being interviewed and he was just like, the reporter
39:40
asked him, so what are the consequences of this
39:44
debt? He said, well, what it is, is we're borrowing
39:47
from the future. Well, yeah, that's what debt
39:49
is. Well, at that point, how can you even have
39:54
a society if you can't build anything anymore
39:57
if the only If the only thing that a country
40:02
builds is data centers Maybe the occasional bomb
40:09
to go bomb smother country on the other side
40:11
of the world and The dream of joining the Marine
40:17
Corps for a better life if that's all you have
40:24
That's not a successful model. You don't get
40:26
married and have kids. You're not going to be
40:27
able to have a family. You're not going to have
40:29
a cohesive society. No, true. I think there was
40:35
a story in today's Politico talking about how
40:40
the tech sector is looking at the opposition
40:44
to data farms, which is one of those Robbie and
40:48
Ted across the political aisle, everybody is
40:54
on the same team, opposition. People are opposed
40:56
to these data centers and to the rise of AI on
40:59
the left and on the right. So there's common
41:02
ground there. And some of the bros think, oh,
41:06
this is a temporary. election year thing and
41:10
everybody's against it right now, but it'll all
41:12
go away next year, presumably after the envelopes
41:16
of cash change hands in the Capitol Hill men's
41:19
room. Maybe. Others are saying like, no, no,
41:22
no, this goes to something much more existential.
41:26
I believe that's true. I think what this is,
41:31
this issue is less about data farms per se, and
41:36
it's more about sort of the economic disquiet.
41:40
In other words, AI and the data farm thing is
41:44
happening at a time when people have just had
41:47
too much and they can't absorb any more abuse.
41:51
And so therefore this is coming along and this
41:54
is where the opposition is materializing and
41:59
focused upon. So to me, it's less about like,
42:03
oh, specifically AI. It's more about just this
42:07
moment in time after decades and decades of increasing
42:10
income and wealth inequality that's now culminating
42:14
where we are now. I don't know, man. I mean,
42:17
it's just, I think there's probably some of it.
42:20
I think there's a lot of symbolism because a
42:22
lot of these data centers are being built in
42:24
rural places. There should have been farmland,
42:26
that kind of thing. So if you're driving down,
42:28
let's say, U .S. 90, and you see a place where
42:31
it used to be canola fields, and then you see
42:33
this big old data center, they say, oh, well,
42:36
it's going to be bringing in jobs. So the jobs
42:37
are going to H1B visa holders. Four jobs. From
42:40
India. It's not even people who live there. Right.
42:46
So then you have to ask that question. So, okay,
42:48
so these are new jobs, but these are not jobs
42:51
for Americans. Also, they're getting tax breaks
42:54
from the county and from the state. Meanwhile,
42:58
normal people work here with no jobs. The tax
43:00
man still comes by every April. Pony up. You
43:03
better pay up. We're going to put you in jail.
43:06
Meanwhile, this data center over here is staffed
43:09
by a bunch of foreigners driving up the utility
43:11
rates. By the way, you already can't afford We're
43:14
going to keep going. We're going to keep on going
43:16
higher. Oh, by the way, if you post immigration,
43:20
then you're a racist. People just look at this
43:24
as only so much as you're able to take. And so
43:27
then what you're going to do is that you're going
43:28
to pick the one thing or at least a couple of
43:30
things that you're able to physically see and
43:33
that you said that right there is the problem.
43:35
It's not so much the data center. The data center
43:37
is not the problem. The new data centers don't
43:40
pollute water. They're actually air cooled. So
43:42
that's one of the reasons why the power power
43:44
bills are going up is because they use more electricity
43:46
because not fluffing through water They use these
43:49
big old honking fans like a giant heat sink is
43:51
how they work with their Nvidia racks It's actually
43:53
pretty neat. That's one of the reasons why they're
43:55
looking at doing the individualized nuclear small
43:59
nuclear reactors to power the data centers That
44:02
way they're off the grid. They can actually sell
44:03
electricity back to the town The issue is though
44:07
It's not so much the data center It's what the
44:11
data center represents. It represents a government
44:13
that is out of touch, that's destroying what
44:17
you're able to actually see. That's a good metaphor
44:19
for the country. A lot of people can't think
44:24
abstract. And it's empty. It's like a big empty
44:27
thing. Like you drive by a factory that used
44:30
to employ thousands of people and it's closed.
44:34
then you drive by this brand new open thing and
44:39
it's empty. There's no one working in there,
44:42
right? So I mean, it's bleak. And here I found
44:46
this piece. So here we go. Some tech industry
44:51
advocates maintain that the pushback against
44:54
AI hubs is a fleeting storm generated by candidates
44:58
seeking wedge issues for November. But others
45:01
call that foolish wishful thinking. AI is going
45:04
to be a massive issue for the presidential election
45:07
in a way that technology has never been an issue.
45:10
A rep from a major AI company told Politico,
45:13
adding, nobody wants to lose their job and they're
45:16
already feeling squeezed while these very, very
45:18
rich people who are richer than anything we have
45:20
ever seen in the history of Earth are making
45:23
more. And I think people are sick and tired of
45:25
that. So. Well, Elon Musk is predicting within
45:29
10 years, the vast majority of people in the
45:31
United States are going to be unemployed. And
45:33
he said the American government needs to figure
45:34
out a way to deal with this, because if they
45:36
don't, it's going to explode. Yeah, he recommended,
45:41
Elon Musk recommended, I don't know if he still
45:42
feels this way, but he used to advocate not a
45:45
UBI, universal basic income, but like a universal
45:50
living income, which is much higher. In other
45:53
words, like you would be able to not work. and
45:56
and still pay your bills. Because after all,
45:59
I mean, the economy will still be generating
46:02
the same amount of productivity. So there's no
46:05
it's so the money's still there, right? It's
46:08
just just because you're not working personally
46:10
doesn't mean that your economy is still not working.
46:13
So they could pay they could pay you to stay
46:15
home. Listen, productivity is going to is going
46:18
to triple with AI. Right. The merger between.
46:21
So, so you have AI. So that's what you see. That's
46:24
what you see online with your grocks and fang
46:28
that I'm building or anything else. Where it's
46:31
going to happen is the merger between AI and
46:34
robotics. This is something I've been watching
46:35
and they're well on their way. With the advent
46:39
of 5G, with the 5G internet, you can do some
46:43
really amazing things because the data stream
46:45
is so much denser. You're able to transfer larger
46:48
packets of data than ever before. You will not
46:52
need people to do the vast majority of jobs and
46:55
machines or some machines will be built to repair
46:57
the other machines. The Chinese are kind of playing
46:59
with us already. Mr. Lee in the chat, I bet you
47:02
can back me up on this. A lot of the government
47:04
-owned farms in China, they don't have farmers
47:08
anymore. They are using drones. They're using
47:11
robots to go through using GPS. They map out
47:14
everything and they do all the work. And that's
47:17
one of the reasons why so many people are going
47:19
into the cities and that's what and that's given
47:21
rise to a new problem that the Chinese are dealing
47:23
with right now, but they call it dry marriages.
47:25
Basically, it's people who are who are married,
47:27
but they're not having sex. The birth rate is
47:29
imploding because the cost of living is still
47:32
going up because all the people who are going
47:34
into the city creating scarcity. And because
47:37
of that uncertainty. Their roommates that there's
47:41
no sex, there's no intimacy, there's no children.
47:45
And one advantage that the Chinese at least have
47:48
is that they have a coherent culture and a history
47:51
and a people, and they have an authoritarian
47:54
government that's able to step in and solve this
47:56
problem. Whereas we have government run by the
47:59
bankers and it'll be like, well, eat cake. Yeah.
48:05
Yeah. Well, that is how it is. So I guess here's
48:10
a question, right? Is this an overreaction against
48:16
the wrong industry at the wrong time? Is it possible
48:19
that AI is actually, you know, it's look, it's
48:22
the technology of the future, that if the United
48:24
States doesn't build up enough data farms going
48:27
forward, that we'll be left behind, we'll lose
48:31
our competition to China, Europe, India, et cetera,
48:35
and that we're kind of fucking ourselves over
48:38
by being Luddites and that, you know, Overall,
48:42
yes, we need to work on making our economy more
48:46
equal and equitable, but the answer is not to
48:50
block data farms, or is it that we just need,
48:53
you know, I mean, I think that's probably true,
48:57
but at the same time, I think, you know, you
48:59
basically have, you take your opposition, your
49:02
political anger where you can get it, and this
49:06
seems to be something that we can all get behind,
49:08
so this is where it is. Well, if the thing is,
49:11
I mean, from an infrastructure perspective, it
49:13
makes more sense to build your data centers in
49:15
the abandoned buildings in New York City than
49:17
it does to build in farmland in upstate New York,
49:20
because you already have the infrastructure for
49:21
it. The problem is - New York City data, I mean,
49:24
abandoned buildings are tiny. They're not big
49:26
enough to, you know what I mean? Well, just make
49:29
them vertical, because you got to keep in mind,
49:33
the new data centers, Ted, they don't have to
49:35
pump all this water. They're all air -cooled.
49:38
So you'll need this huge, massive complex. I
49:40
mean, sure, the more that you have, the better.
49:42
Yeah, you just have this weird sort of, it's
49:44
like the phone company in New York has these
49:47
old switching station buildings that have no
49:50
windows, like the old AT &T buildings, and you
49:52
see them, they're like, wow, this is weird. This
49:54
is a 30 -story building with no windows, and
49:57
it's just switching stuff for the phone company.
50:00
Yeah, that's what you would do. I mean, all you
50:02
got to do is just go straight up. I mean, that's
50:05
the solution. But that real estate is so expensive.
50:08
That's why they don't do it there. Well, that's
50:10
the problem. And that's part of the pushback.
50:13
So you're coming over to rural America, to the
50:16
places where the people literally cannot afford
50:20
the higher utility rates that this is going to
50:22
cost with zero political representation at all.
50:27
with no political power, the weakest people in
50:30
the country being told, sit down, shut up and
50:32
take it. Eat your four dollar ramen and be thankful
50:36
that you have these H1B visa holders from India
50:38
coming over to manage these things since you're
50:41
too stupid to do it yourselves. Sit down and
50:43
shut up. That's where the anger is coming from.
50:47
So let's talk about capitalism and socialism.
50:49
I mean, you know, like I think the problem is,
50:52
I mean, so Americans, I think it's fair to say,
50:54
don't like the current system. whatever you want
50:56
to call it, right? And it is obviously sort of
51:00
gangster capitalism, crony capitalism. But the
51:05
question is, do they understand socialism well
51:08
enough to be able to know what they're supporting
51:10
without having, you know, that defined by capitalists
51:15
into thinking that they're not for that? I mean,
51:17
in other words, it's like, is this is this battle
51:20
of isms real or not? I don't know. How many socialists
51:23
do you know of that should know what socialism
51:25
is? I mean, the socialists I know do know what
51:29
it is, but you know, I don't know how widespread
51:31
that is. Yeah. But that's my point though. So
51:33
I mean, you ask somebody, you know, if you ask
51:36
people who say, yeah, sure. I support socialism.
51:39
What does that actually mean? Does that mean
51:41
that the government would take control and you
51:44
would actually have basically kind of the way
51:48
that the corporation works, where you are paid
51:50
a dividend, you being the taxpayer for, based
51:54
off your taxes, for a vital service like rail
51:59
and planes and healthcare, or does that mean
52:02
that the government takes over everything? No,
52:06
the government doesn't take over everything under
52:08
socialism. No, I know, but that's the point I'm
52:10
making though. I mean, if you ask like your average
52:12
22 year old kid over in school, What is socialism?
52:18
They really couldn't tell you. Just like they
52:19
couldn't tell you what it is. So the government
52:21
takes over major industries that are, especially
52:25
those that are considered essential services.
52:28
So defense, education, medicine, pharmaceuticals,
52:37
all that stuff is state owned. But I mean, your
52:42
local restaurant? No. The discotheque? No, that
52:46
stuff is not, you know, that stuff is all private.
52:50
But a lot of people who support socialism, I'm
52:53
getting this, just watching stuff over online.
52:56
Take that for what it is. I think that socialism
52:59
means that there's no longer any private property
53:02
or that you cannot pass down your property to
53:06
your heirs if you do have it. You kind of get
53:08
grandfathered in. The destruction of the landed
53:13
gentry. for lack of a better thing, like no generational
53:16
wealth, no generational transfer of power, that
53:18
the government would just take care of all of
53:20
these things. So I guess that's the question
53:25
is how many people who said they're socialists
53:26
even understand what it is that they're advocating
53:28
for? Yeah. I mean, that's impossible to know,
53:33
right? That's the problem. It's just like, what
53:36
does America first mean? I can tell you what
53:38
it means to me, but it doesn't mean that's what
53:41
it's going to mean to anybody else. No, I'm sure
53:43
if you ask Mark Levin, he would tell you he's
53:46
America first, because he wants a strong America
53:50
to go over there and work with Israel to make
53:53
the world safe for democracy and be the unchallenged
53:57
hegemon and bring everybody down to their knees.
54:01
America first means you're at the top of the
54:02
pile. What for me America first means is that
54:05
the interests of the American people matter more
54:08
than foreign affairs do. Yeah, that's what I
54:11
think of it. Yeah, I don't want it to be America
54:14
telling other countries what to do. I don't either.
54:17
Yeah, it's not our business. It's not our place.
54:20
And I want good relations with foreign countries.
54:22
And that's not how you get it. But we do have
54:26
a bunch. We do have some paid chats and some
54:28
other comments we should probably hit. Let's
54:30
do those and then we'll get out of here. All
54:31
right. Sounds good. We're trying to get this
54:33
thing going faster than what happens with the
54:35
real manila. So McAden asks, and thank you for
54:40
the dollar, Robbie, why the Marines not other
54:42
services? They're less than line of fire. Hope
54:44
he's okay. It's because he thinks the Marines
54:46
are bad -ass. They look cool in their uniforms.
54:48
They must be a part of an elite military force.
54:52
That's what he said. Well -dressed nerd. Thank
54:56
you for the two bucks. I served in the army,
54:58
got so much from it. And my views on US empire
55:01
have always aligned with most conversations here.
55:04
But I don't regret my army service. You raised
55:06
them well. Robbie, he will be fine. Man Child,
55:10
thank you for the dollar. This will be interesting.
55:12
Use your Christian roots to pin that damn dang
55:16
old Ten Commandments shit about honoring your
55:18
father and your mother. Use that bullshit to
55:20
your advantage. I have tried. John Doe, Manila,
55:25
show me your boobs. I'm going to have to do the
55:28
whole Ted thing. If you're going to see the trans
55:29
manila boobs, you've got the pony up. I'm not
55:32
as expensive as Ted is. I'm a little bit cheaper
55:34
whore. 500 bucks. I will show you my man bits.
55:38
Uh, Jenna Tilles, no shade to Robbie, but I prefer
55:41
vanilla manila still. Well, she's yellow, so
55:44
she's not vanilla. So that's racist. You're,
55:47
you're whitewashing her. True. Check your privilege.
55:51
Uh, calling says Pat Tillman expressed deep disillusionment
55:55
with the geopolitical realities of the war. This
55:58
fucking war is so illegal. We're guarding poppy
56:00
fields and ordinary people should not be here.
56:03
And I agree. And, uh, and that poison is being
56:05
sent here and poisoning our, our people here
56:08
in this country. That is what he said. Yeah.
56:10
That's drug drug dealers. And that this is a
56:13
hill I will die on. If you sell drugs, if I ever
56:16
became a dictator, I would put a God help us
56:19
all. I would shoot you personally. I would shoot
56:22
you because of the damage you're causing to the,
56:24
to the country and phrasma task. Question for
56:27
you, Ted. Uh, did you know a Wyatt man and here
56:31
he just passed away. I do not like his racist
56:34
art style, et cetera, but I like Tom Metzger
56:36
who he worked with. Uh, I don't even know who
56:40
that is. I'm embarrassed to admit. I'm looking
56:43
it up. Yeah, I don't know. It might come up,
56:47
you know, okay. I don't think Pat Tillman was
56:55
killed by friendly fire. I think he was I think
56:57
he was murdered Okay, okay, so he was Nick his
57:05
white man is a I guess like white man is a pseudonym
57:10
for Nick Boogas He was an American documentary
57:14
filmmaker As a cartoonist, he used the pen name
57:17
A Wyatt Man to produce racist, anti -semitic,
57:20
anti -feminist, and homophobic cartoons. Let's
57:25
see. In the magazine War, operated by Tom Metzger.
57:32
I know who Tom Metzger was. I want to see if
57:37
there's any pictures of these cartoonists, of
57:39
cartoons. If you don't find one, throw it up
57:42
on the screen. I like racist cartoons. War races
57:45
are better. Yeah, I'm not seeing any. I think
57:49
it's going to be hard to find these. All right.
57:51
Yeah, there's so far. All right. I'm going to.
57:57
Oh, I know. I know. I'll look. I know. I'll just
58:00
do a Google image search and see if I find anything.
58:03
I mean, I have to be careful. Oh, I have seen
58:07
these cartoons. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah,
58:11
yeah. I'm not putting these up. Sorry. We can
58:15
find them on our own. We can find them ourselves.
58:18
Yeah. All right. Yeah, basically it's like hook
58:24
nose Jew, big lipped black, you know, that kind
58:28
of shit. Oh, it's funny. I mean, the cartoons
58:33
are definitely competently drawn for whatever,
58:40
whatever that's worth. It's like Yeah. It's like,
58:44
well, the quality of the, the production quality
58:46
of this, of this racist shit is a antisemitic
58:50
tripe is, is not bad. It's like, okay, whatever.
58:54
I think racism is probably the only acceptable
58:56
form of comedy nowadays, except for the highest
58:59
form of comedy, especially among, among younger
59:02
generations, like the teenagers. It's just, it's
59:06
because it's been so untouchable for so long.
59:09
Well, look, there's a big difference between
59:11
race infused humor and like what used to be called
59:15
ethnic humor and actual racist commentary, right?
59:19
I mean, obviously it's all the difference in
59:22
the world. Yeah. I don't know. It's kind of like,
59:25
if you remember the old Bugs Bunny from back
59:27
in the day was World War II and they had the,
59:30
had this to really radicalize the little Japanese
59:33
soldier or they had Daffy Duck throwing hail
59:36
Hitler's and stuff. I think there's a place for
59:38
it. People are just too sensitive. It's okay
59:41
Have some fun with it. You can draw yourself
59:44
a pasty white guy. It's all right All right.
59:48
Well people are just too serious well with that
59:51
I have to go pee and have some eggs and get ready
59:54
for a Q &A show. So we're doing Q &A show for
59:57
Deep Program in 58 minutes at 12 noon Eastern
1:00:00
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1:00:14
And you're taking us out. Yeah, I think I got
1:00:16
the right button. So there's TMI closing and
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outro. We'll click outro and see what happens.
1:00:21
See you all later. That'll work.