Latest / Reality with The King / RHOA EXCLUSIVE: Angela Breaks Her Silence On Phaedra
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- 0:03Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.
- 0:07Speaker 2: I'm an executive.
- 0:08Speaker 1: Producer who have produced some of your favorite shows from
- 0:11Speaker 1: the Real Housewives in Atlanta, New Jersey and my own creation,
- 0:15Speaker 1: The Love and Marriage Franchise and Bell Collective. Every episode,
- 0:20Speaker 1: we recap reality television from the Real Housewives Franchise to
- 0:25Speaker 1: The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in addition to celebrity guests,
- 0:29Speaker 1: whether in the unscripted space or scripted as well.
- 0:35Speaker 3: Honey, I got my fan few girl.
- 0:39Speaker 2: Yes, they was cloud to me.
- 0:41Speaker 3: About I'm going through menopaul.
- 0:47Speaker 1: Okay, because we're the same age.
- 0:58Speaker 4: Oh my goodness, can get her.
- 1:02Speaker 2: Give my it's in my verse upstairs because I need
- 1:05Speaker 2: to put this siress.
- 1:06Speaker 4: Let's put the surress, would you.
- 1:08Speaker 2: It's not my Please get.
- 1:09Speaker 1: My past because that's a forty five year old man
- 1:12Speaker 1: both to menopause.
- 1:13Speaker 4: Okay, and you're allegedly forty four.
- 1:19Speaker 3: Relative. Well, you know the girls, I mean look, I'll
- 1:22Speaker 3: watched the show, and I mean.
- 1:25Speaker 1: Fas said that you are the oldest looking.
- 1:29Speaker 2: Yeah, I know. I kind of want Phaser to find
- 1:33Speaker 2: a man, a friend, or a mirror, you know, before
- 1:37Speaker 2: she comes at me about how I look like I
- 1:40Speaker 2: was insulted, like I could take that from anybody except her.
- 1:43Speaker 2: Why because it's like, have you seen that? Has she
- 1:46Speaker 2: been past the mirror? Like where's the mirrors? I think,
- 1:49Speaker 2: fai where the mirror? I'm not calling her ugly, What
- 1:54Speaker 2: are you calling her? She was Okay, she looks her age,
- 2:00Speaker 2: you know, and it's one way. It's her age. I think.
- 2:03Speaker 2: I think we just need to add a text. Whatever
- 2:05Speaker 2: my ages, we're gonna add teen. Okay, we're gonna add
- 2:08Speaker 2: teen to that.
- 2:08Speaker 1: Forty four So you think Pagel looks fifty four whatever?
- 2:11Speaker 2: People think I look older.
- 2:13Speaker 3: So I'll say this and this and range drops. Y'all
- 2:16Speaker 3: know I do not lie.
- 2:19Speaker 1: I'm in person with this woman. You know I'm being honest.
- 2:23Speaker 1: You don't look old to me.
- 2:24Speaker 2: I didn't know.
- 2:25Speaker 1: No, I'm being very honest with you because I will
- 2:27Speaker 1: tell you the too, like you don't look forty four,
- 2:30Speaker 1: you don't, and you don't look older than forty four.
- 2:32Speaker 2: I appreciate it.
- 2:33Speaker 3: I don't, So I'm being serious.
- 2:36Speaker 1: I don't understand the read because yeah.
- 2:41Speaker 3: Before this show was your age ever in question?
- 2:47Speaker 2: Never never? And all of the wives that I'm around, oh,
- 2:51Speaker 2: we all act look the same you know, no one
- 2:54Speaker 2: has ever questioned are you the same age as your husband?
- 2:58Speaker 5: Everyone knew, you know, say he got a young Yeah.
- 3:04Speaker 6: To be asked, you know how old are you? I
- 3:06Speaker 6: was shocked. I'm like, damn, do I look like I
- 3:09Speaker 6: change my dermatologist?
- 3:11Speaker 5: Aside from that, yes, I'm okay, we'll get the idea pastor. Okay,
- 3:21Speaker 5: carlos Key as a journalist, Hey, Portia, I'm gonna get
- 3:25Speaker 5: the receipts.
- 3:26Speaker 1: Okay, break drops now, Lizzie, can you please bring me
- 3:32Speaker 1: my readers to.
- 3:32Speaker 6: Do the mind last night?
- 3:40Speaker 1: Okay, I'm looking at Angela's passport and I'm doing this
- 3:46Speaker 1: because I'm forty five years old.
- 3:49Speaker 3: So my eyesight is, you know, not what it used
- 3:52Speaker 3: to be. But I can see clearly.
- 3:57Speaker 2: Don't do that, you take it.
- 4:01Speaker 4: I need read.
- 4:09Speaker 2: No, I need my readers.
- 4:11Speaker 3: Wait, I'm a reader.
- 4:14Speaker 2: Ship forty five. I got good.
- 4:17Speaker 6: I'm not hear I see a little bit.
- 4:20Speaker 4: I got you, honey, don't you worry boo.
- 4:25Speaker 6: Please read it.
- 4:27Speaker 2: Here.
- 4:28Speaker 6: We are right here.
- 4:34Speaker 1: Because I'm a real journalist, so I want to make
- 4:36Speaker 1: sure please get the facts.
- 4:38Speaker 3: Get the facts right.
- 4:38Speaker 1: Okay, all right, Angela Dione Oakley, No, my government.
- 4:46Speaker 4: Okay, all right, we'll cut it off. Cut off, cut off. Okay,
- 4:53Speaker 4: we got Angela Oakley.
- 4:55Speaker 1: Guys, I'm looking at it may or nineteen eighty one.
- 5:02Speaker 2: I cannot believe that question my age, like, god, you
- 5:09Speaker 2: look good.
- 5:10Speaker 6: Look at my mannerisms as well.
- 5:12Speaker 1: When you watch the show, do you when you when
- 5:14Speaker 1: you see yourself on TV, do you feel like.
- 5:18Speaker 3: Okay, maybe I can see what they're saying or are
- 5:20Speaker 3: you just like.
- 5:21Speaker 6: I think what you know?
- 5:23Speaker 2: So I never wore makeup before, and so I think
- 5:25Speaker 2: it was playing around the makeup.
- 5:27Speaker 6: I think the wigs.
- 5:29Speaker 2: It was a lot of trial and there, so I
- 5:30Speaker 2: could see how I can look a little bit older,
- 5:32Speaker 2: but not you know, to the extent that people are saying.
- 5:35Speaker 3: Yeah you know, I'm like, wait a minute, no, you
- 5:37Speaker 3: look good. So listen. You are from Chicago, yes, I'm
- 5:40Speaker 3: from Detroit.
- 5:41Speaker 1: Midwest is the best.
- 5:45Speaker 2: Now.
- 5:45Speaker 3: That's why I love you.
- 5:46Speaker 1: I love Drew and I instantly felt when it came
- 5:51Speaker 1: to you, you came on this show being your authentic self.
- 5:58Speaker 2: Flaws and all, You're gonna get everything from me because
- 6:03Speaker 2: I feel like, just being a fan of the show
- 6:05Speaker 2: for so.
- 6:06Speaker 3: Long, that did you watch all the season I.
- 6:08Speaker 6: Stopped when I think when.
- 6:14Speaker 2: I'm just letting with the people, I.
- 6:21Speaker 3: Think I said when you left.
- 6:27Speaker 2: But you know, when I got the job.
- 6:31Speaker 6: I had to catch up.
- 6:32Speaker 2: But you know show, I was definitely a fan of
- 6:39Speaker 2: the show, and you know, I just feel like I
- 6:42Speaker 2: relate more to that era, you know, because those women
- 6:46Speaker 2: were authentic. Not to say that these women are not,
- 6:49Speaker 2: it's just the way that they present themselves. I think
- 6:51Speaker 2: I aline with that more.
- 6:53Speaker 1: Well, what is so interesting is so I worked on
- 6:55Speaker 1: a show from season one one through four, than six
- 6:59Speaker 1: through nine, season five, and your name came up and
- 7:02Speaker 1: casting a lot, And I know I did an interview
- 7:05Speaker 1: I said season three, and I think I got the
- 7:07Speaker 1: timeline wrong. I want to say, maybe around like season
- 7:11Speaker 1: six seven, your name came up as somebody we should
- 7:17Speaker 1: talk to. Were you approach during that time? Were you
- 7:21Speaker 1: even aware that we wanted you? Because sometimes you have
- 7:25Speaker 1: representatives and sometimes representatives speak for you and you may not.
- 7:30Speaker 3: Be aware of it.
- 7:31Speaker 1: But were you're aware that we were sinking you out
- 7:33Speaker 1: for a long time?
- 7:35Speaker 4: You know what?
- 7:35Speaker 6: And I like season three, like keep that narrative more.
- 7:40Speaker 2: Out there. But you know what, when they did approach me,
- 7:43Speaker 2: it was actually my daughter's friend. His name is Sir Julian,
- 7:47Speaker 2: and he was like, you would be phenomenal for housewives
- 7:49Speaker 2: because all of the kids at Woodard Academy love Housewives.
- 7:53Speaker 2: I think it coded barbado. And he was like, miss Angela,
- 7:55Speaker 2: I want you to get on this show. So he
- 7:58Speaker 2: got me all the way to the exact truly, like
- 8:01Speaker 2: no casting company, no one. He got me to the
- 8:04Speaker 2: execs at the time. It was a lady by the
- 8:06Speaker 2: name of Chelsea There.
- 8:07Speaker 7: Yeah, casting I got live way drops go ahead, y'ap.
- 8:13Speaker 2: And so I spoke to Chelsea and you know what,
- 8:16Speaker 2: it wasn't you know, the timing wasn't right. And I
- 8:19Speaker 2: thank god that the timing did not work because had
- 8:24Speaker 2: I been.
- 8:24Speaker 6: Casting there, oh my goodness, I would have been a wreck.
- 8:28Speaker 3: Do you know what season that was?
- 8:30Speaker 6: That was twenty sixteen, So.
- 8:31Speaker 3: Yeah, twenty sixteen. I was around, So I know what
- 8:34Speaker 3: I'm talking about. You weren't lying, Yeah.
- 8:37Speaker 6: It was true.
- 8:38Speaker 2: They you know, they approached us, and Julian, you know,
- 8:41Speaker 2: got us the interview and we interviewed, but the timing
- 8:44Speaker 2: and we interviewed again again, and the timing wasn't right.
- 8:48Speaker 2: And I'm so grateful so.
- 8:49Speaker 6: Grateful for that.
- 8:50Speaker 1: But when you look at the heyday, because we do
- 8:53Speaker 1: watch the show and everybody angelas like we would have
- 8:58Speaker 1: love to see Angela with Mini Leaks, Yeah, with Charae
- 9:03Speaker 1: with like the old kemp zosiac the ogs.
- 9:06Speaker 3: Do you feel like you fit more.
- 9:10Speaker 1: With those girls than you do today with Portia Shamia
- 9:16Speaker 1: and you know Kelly Well, I.
- 9:19Speaker 2: Say, with those girls, I would kind of have been
- 9:23Speaker 2: no shade to the current cast. You know, I love
- 9:25Speaker 2: all the ladies, but I would have been more aligned.
- 9:30Speaker 2: I feel I feel like now it's a little bit
- 9:33Speaker 2: of I'm not gonna stoop down, you know what I mean.
- 9:36Speaker 2: So I'm always gonna be up here and you have
- 9:38Speaker 2: to meet me at my level.
- 9:39Speaker 6: I'm married, I have children.
- 9:40Speaker 2: You know. Not to speak against those ladies, but again,
- 9:43Speaker 2: I think I fit in with the older cast because
- 9:46Speaker 2: the wigs were bad, you know, like you could get
- 9:49Speaker 2: in with good a bad wig and be okay, this
- 9:54Speaker 2: top model, like.
- 9:55Speaker 4: What are we doing?
- 9:56Speaker 6: Like it's every day a fashion show.
- 9:58Speaker 2: I feel like the older cast would a receive me.
- 10:01Speaker 6: Much better, and yes, so.
- 10:07Speaker 2: You they would have received me better because now it's
- 10:10Speaker 2: like gonna be a picked apart because I got a
- 10:12Speaker 2: bad wi and they would have never done me like
- 10:14Speaker 2: that again.
- 10:15Speaker 3: Listen, I gotta be honest.
- 10:16Speaker 1: With you, so honestly, I'm a former producer of the show.
- 10:21Speaker 1: I am still a huge fan of the franchise. I
- 10:24Speaker 1: said this publicly that I did feel like there were
- 10:27Speaker 1: seasons that weren't excellent and I felt like this season
- 10:33Speaker 1: is back to its roots. And I'm gonna say this
- 10:36Speaker 1: also publicly. I've said on my podcast, I said on
- 10:39Speaker 1: my Monday Night Live show with Claudia and Jordan and Dustin.
- 10:42Speaker 3: Ross, and I'll say to your face, you are the
- 10:45Speaker 3: reason for the season. You really are.
- 10:48Speaker 4: You really are.
- 10:50Speaker 1: And as somebody who has been their season one day one,
- 10:55Speaker 1: there's not one motherfucker who recaps the show that knows
- 10:59Speaker 1: more than me or understands how the machine works, although
- 11:02Speaker 1: they try to, you know, discredit what I my expert opinion,
- 11:08Speaker 1: and that's find what I'm saying to you is, as somebody.
- 11:12Speaker 3: Who was a part of the foundation of building that show,
- 11:16Speaker 3: right me and the rest of the amazing people at
- 11:19Speaker 3: the production company as well and the network too.
- 11:23Speaker 1: You are exactly what the real house boss of Atlanta
- 11:27Speaker 1: was born to be. And you represent that and you
- 11:34Speaker 1: are so naturally funny and naturally gifted.
- 11:40Speaker 3: You remind me a lot.
- 11:41Speaker 1: Of my old school girls who was able to read
- 11:45Speaker 1: somebody and not yell.
- 11:48Speaker 3: And that's why I'm yelling.
- 11:49Speaker 1: At but but my favorite read from you will always be.
- 11:54Speaker 4: But you got those miles.
- 11:57Speaker 1: Stretch my no, no no, and you set their cool,
- 12:02Speaker 1: calm and collected. And that's when I said, Angela Oakley
- 12:07Speaker 1: is bringing the Real Housewives of Atlanta back to its
- 12:11Speaker 1: glory days. And as a former executive producer, it would
- 12:15Speaker 1: be remiss of me not to say to you to
- 12:17Speaker 1: your face, I thank you, and I thank you for
- 12:20Speaker 1: your services and I want to see you continue doing
- 12:23Speaker 1: the show.
- 12:24Speaker 3: You are magnificent.
- 12:25Speaker 2: I appreciate it.
- 12:26Speaker 1: You really are, and and I hope you know it's
- 12:28Speaker 1: sincere what I'm saying to you.
- 12:30Speaker 2: But to hear it from you like it means so
- 12:33Speaker 2: much because you always want to know, am I doing
- 12:36Speaker 2: this right? Am I doing a good job? No matter
- 12:38Speaker 2: what it is I'm doing, I want to know. My
- 12:40Speaker 2: love language is words of affirmation, like tell me I'm
- 12:43Speaker 2: doing it right, And to hear it from you it
- 12:45Speaker 2: feels good because a lot of people won't tell you
- 12:48Speaker 2: know you're killing it, or you fit in, or you're
- 12:51Speaker 2: doing what we need you to do. And so to
- 12:53Speaker 2: hear it from you, it means a line. I appreciate it, No,
- 12:55Speaker 2: and I mean that. I mean that.
- 12:56Speaker 1: I mean that I saw that you recently was at
- 12:59Speaker 1: the BT War and you were calling the audience with
- 13:03Speaker 1: your fan on her.
- 13:04Speaker 2: Oh my god, I said, I don't.
- 13:07Speaker 4: Think it's not gonna leave. It's like the American Express.
- 13:15Speaker 3: Don't leave home.
- 13:15Speaker 2: Without it, because I know. And the thing is, you know,
- 13:21Speaker 2: people are like, it's air conditioning the building. Whenever I
- 13:24Speaker 2: get high, it's internal, right. I can't turn the air
- 13:28Speaker 2: conditioning off on my body. Yeah, so I have to
- 13:31Speaker 2: keep my fan, and I just naturally, you know, if
- 13:33Speaker 2: I feel a little something, I'm gonna turn on because
- 13:35Speaker 2: my wig is not gonna slip off. And that's the
- 13:37Speaker 2: second thing for having my fan. I want to make
- 13:40Speaker 2: sure my lace is lace.
- 13:41Speaker 4: It's it's lace today, Lacy good. The Bob's Bobby Bob.
- 13:47Speaker 7: It's not like you know what I'm saying, And ain't
- 13:50Speaker 7: like one.
- 13:57Speaker 2: Of my favorites and ain't falling off. Nini is just
- 14:01Speaker 2: we gotta give it to Nini. But I also love
- 14:03Speaker 2: Claudia Clauda is amazing.
- 14:06Speaker 3: You saw Nini at the BTD. What did she say
- 14:09Speaker 3: to you about you being on the show?
- 14:11Speaker 2: You know what? She just said, you know what, you
- 14:12Speaker 2: look amazing. And we just had a little one too.
- 14:16Speaker 2: She introduced me to her partner and we just did
- 14:18Speaker 2: a little vibe. We had a little vibe. It was
- 14:21Speaker 2: a nice little a nice little meeting. I know Nini,
- 14:24Speaker 2: you know, I've seen her before and I was a
- 14:26Speaker 2: part of her organization, Ladies of Success. So shout out
- 14:29Speaker 2: to Nini. Uh and to get the high five from her,
- 14:34Speaker 2: that means something, that means something, that's like girl, it's
- 14:38Speaker 2: enough one for everybody. So I appreciated that for me
- 14:41Speaker 2: from Nini. I did.
- 14:42Speaker 3: Have you met Kim Zosiak before?
- 14:44Speaker 2: Never? But I heard I would love her. She's a
- 14:46Speaker 2: Taurus like I am. Oh yeah, so I heard I
- 14:48Speaker 2: would love her. Really that I've heard that a few times.
- 14:53Speaker 3: Have you met, no And you know what?
- 14:56Speaker 2: I think I would love char.
- 14:58Speaker 4: I see you and too, don't you think?
- 15:03Speaker 2: I think so? I do too? And I only say
- 15:06Speaker 2: that you know we shared well, my husband is her,
- 15:09Speaker 2: they used to day. So I feel like charae wasn't
- 15:13Speaker 2: one of the women who was looking for Charles after
- 15:16Speaker 2: they broke up. You know, some women still, you know,
- 15:19Speaker 2: hang around even after you got married. Charai just wasn't
- 15:23Speaker 2: one of those women. So I don't feel like Charai
- 15:26Speaker 2: would be, you know, a threat or anything like that.
- 15:29Speaker 2: I feel like she would be a good and she's
- 15:31Speaker 2: a Capricorn. My siblings are capricorns. Like I feel like
- 15:35Speaker 2: Charai would be a good time. And I've heard that
- 15:37Speaker 2: a lot from a lot of different people.
- 15:38Speaker 3: Oh cha is the best time I heard that? Amazing.
- 15:43Speaker 1: Did you find out being on the show that Charles
- 15:45Speaker 1: and Charae dated or did he tell you prior to
- 15:47Speaker 1: you joining the show?
- 15:48Speaker 2: No, so he didn't. We didn't go through our list
- 15:51Speaker 2: of exes, right like we didn't say our dated her.
- 15:54Speaker 2: It never came up that way. I found out just
- 15:57Speaker 2: based on conversation from people back in twenty seventeen when
- 16:01Speaker 2: I initially cast it, because I believe Array was a
- 16:04Speaker 2: part of that cat was she was a part of
- 16:06Speaker 2: that cast, and so that's how it kind of I
- 16:10Speaker 2: found out that they used to date, and so I
- 16:14Speaker 2: didn't know the nature of their relationship. I didn't know
- 16:18Speaker 2: how serious it was, and I you know, I've come
- 16:20Speaker 2: to find out you know how serious it was or
- 16:23Speaker 2: lack thereof. So they dated, you know, twenty years ago.
- 16:28Speaker 1: And y'all don't run into each other at events or
- 16:30Speaker 1: anything in Atlanta.
- 16:31Speaker 2: No, you won't find me out too much in Atlanta.
- 16:34Speaker 2: I'm not I'm like Atlanta's hidden secret. I like to
- 16:36Speaker 2: stay in the house, or I'm on a plane, I'm
- 16:38Speaker 2: somewhere else. I don't like to sit around Atlanta that much.
- 16:42Speaker 2: That's how a lot of people didn't know who I was.
- 16:44Speaker 2: I was Atlanta's best kept secret.
- 16:47Speaker 3: Well, baby, you are wide open.
- 16:48Speaker 1: Yeah, did you listen? You're a beautiful woman from Chicago.
- 16:57Speaker 1: What was your dreams and aspirations? Was it you ever
- 17:00Speaker 1: see yourself being on a hit show and Bravo or
- 17:04Speaker 1: being a part of the entertainment industry or did.
- 17:06Speaker 3: You have other dreams and goals being in Chicago.
- 17:09Speaker 2: I did so. Coming from Chicago, I knew I always
- 17:12Speaker 2: wanted to be an entrepreneur. My background is in finance,
- 17:15Speaker 2: and I just knew I wanted to go where the
- 17:18Speaker 2: money was, no matter if that was behind the scenes,
- 17:22Speaker 2: not so much in front of the scenes, but definitely
- 17:24Speaker 2: behind the scenes. And be it that my husband is
- 17:27Speaker 2: public facing. I kind of felt like, I can, you know,
- 17:29Speaker 2: manage his situation, and so I never had aspirations of
- 17:34Speaker 2: being in front of a camera, you know, outside of
- 17:36Speaker 2: the audition of twenty sixteen. But no, no. I remember
- 17:41Speaker 2: meeting with Larry.
- 17:42Speaker 1: King and he was just like, not the legendary journalist
- 17:48Speaker 1: Larry Kingry Larry as love Larry King.
- 17:52Speaker 2: And he was just like, you know, he was just like,
- 17:54Speaker 2: so what do you want to do? We met at
- 17:56Speaker 2: he loved this coffee shop in la He for a
- 17:58Speaker 2: frequent every day he would go there, and he was like,
- 18:00Speaker 2: so what do you want to do? Do you want
- 18:02Speaker 2: to be behind the scenes or in front of the camera.
- 18:04Speaker 2: I was like, I care about the money. He said,
- 18:06Speaker 2: I never cared about the business, and I was like, well,
- 18:09Speaker 2: if I don't, He just was pretty much saying like
- 18:12Speaker 2: I care about being in front of the camera. I
- 18:14Speaker 2: don't care about the business. And I was like, well,
- 18:17Speaker 2: I care about the business, so I guess you know,
- 18:19Speaker 2: there's no room for me in front of the camera
- 18:21Speaker 2: because I care more about the business than being on
- 18:24Speaker 2: in front of the camera. And Larry King was like, yeah,
- 18:26Speaker 2: he probably stay behind me. You know the camera, wow
- 18:30Speaker 2: to handle the business, and he never cared about the business.
- 18:33Speaker 3: And you know what's so funny, he accumulated so much wealth.
- 18:37Speaker 2: Yes, he are a good team man.
- 18:39Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's the thing.
- 18:41Speaker 1: The thing is this, you have to have a team
- 18:45Speaker 1: surrounding you who are good at business.
- 18:48Speaker 3: So, for example, I am a businessman, but my moster
- 18:51Speaker 3: from the camera.
- 18:52Speaker 1: But I also know that there's no way in the
- 18:54Speaker 1: world I'm able to do both successfully. So I have
- 18:58Speaker 1: a great team around me who does great business. And
- 19:01Speaker 1: for me, I focus on creating stuff and doing all the.
- 19:06Speaker 3: Things I'm doing.
- 19:07Speaker 1: And that's why I relate to you so much with
- 19:08Speaker 1: the real estate because I want you to know I
- 19:11Speaker 1: understand what that feels like when you have a real
- 19:16Speaker 1: estate portfolio that.
- 19:18Speaker 3: Doesn't go well.
- 19:20Speaker 1: Because in this LLC community that we live in, we
- 19:26Speaker 1: are sort of taught that in order to accumulate wealth,
- 19:31Speaker 1: you have to invest in real estate. And your transparency
- 19:36Speaker 1: of being, I believe was two million dollars a depth
- 19:38Speaker 1: to the fact that you were able in this reality
- 19:41Speaker 1: landscape where everybody is front and and buying stuff that
- 19:46Speaker 1: can't afford and houses and foreclosure and renting the designer
- 19:53Speaker 1: bags and things of that nature. Okay, the fact that
- 19:58Speaker 1: you were so transparent about that when it came to
- 20:01Speaker 1: your real estate portfolio, is it something you thought this.
- 20:05Speaker 3: Would be good?
- 20:05Speaker 1: Because everybody around me is telling me that's how you
- 20:09Speaker 1: accumulate wealth in your sleep.
- 20:11Speaker 2: Exactly the reason, exactly the reason that I went so hard,
- 20:15Speaker 2: so fast, so far, and spent so much money, you know,
- 20:21Speaker 2: and that bothers me.
- 20:22Speaker 6: That kind of.
- 20:23Speaker 2: Makes me mad that I fumbled like that. However, if
- 20:28Speaker 2: I didn't have those properties, you would have never known me,
- 20:32Speaker 2: because I would have lived my private life. I would
- 20:35Speaker 2: have stayed behind the scenes doing what I normally do.
- 20:39Speaker 2: And I was kind of persuaded to buy those properties.
- 20:43Speaker 2: There was this investor, a portfolio investor overseas I won't
- 20:48Speaker 2: name the country, who wanted to invest in American real estate,
- 20:52Speaker 2: and so I was just like, Okay, I was introduced
- 20:56Speaker 2: through a realtor, and I was like, let's accumulate some property.
- 21:00Speaker 2: Let's grab some properties. And I bought luxury properties so
- 21:04Speaker 2: with the intention of selling it to the portfolio investor
- 21:07Speaker 2: for a profit. Sure enough, when it was time to sell,
- 21:11Speaker 2: I had no portfolio investor, but I did have a
- 21:14Speaker 2: portfolio of properties that needed to be renovated. So I
- 21:17Speaker 2: had to hit the ground learning how to flip properties
- 21:21Speaker 2: when I had no clue how to renovate anything. And
- 21:25Speaker 2: I have multimillion dollar properties, So I'm scared. I'm frightening.
- 21:32Speaker 2: I'm running out of funds because we carried those properties
- 21:35Speaker 2: for three years and I'm rehabbing them while paying the
- 21:40Speaker 2: mortgages on it. So it just got to a point
- 21:44Speaker 2: where I was just like, Okay, I can sell them
- 21:46Speaker 2: on the show, Like, look it on the show, Like,
- 21:49Speaker 2: let's promote this on the show, not even taking into
- 21:52Speaker 2: consideration the houses are not ready for market. You know,
- 21:55Speaker 2: you're on the show. Let's hope they show a house.
- 21:58Speaker 4: You know.
- 22:00Speaker 2: That. Yeah, and you know, I just hope. You know.
- 22:03Speaker 2: I was hoping I could turn a profit, and no,
- 22:06Speaker 2: that didn't happen. I lost a tremendous amount of money.
- 22:10Speaker 2: We lost a tremendous amount of money doing that.
- 22:12Speaker 3: And are do you are you still the owner of
- 22:15Speaker 3: those four properties?
- 22:16Speaker 2: No? Fore clothes, No, not all of them. Okay, I
- 22:19Speaker 2: still have two, but the bigger ones. I'm like, okay,
- 22:23Speaker 2: this house and this particular house was on the show,
- 22:26Speaker 2: so I paid one point nine for that house and
- 22:28Speaker 2: it's on the corner of hers, like it's a landmark
- 22:31Speaker 2: property in Georgia. And I paid one point nine million
- 22:34Speaker 2: four and it wasn't renovated, and so after renovations it
- 22:38Speaker 2: should have netted about three million dollars. I would have
- 22:42Speaker 2: had to put in about five hundred thousand and renovations,
- 22:44Speaker 2: so probably about a five hundred thousand dollar profit if
- 22:47Speaker 2: everything went well. And that includes carrying calls like I
- 22:51Speaker 2: can go down the line.
- 22:52Speaker 3: No, it's expensive.
- 22:54Speaker 2: But long and behold. Yeah, I mean I got to
- 22:58Speaker 2: the end and the bank was like, no, run us
- 23:01Speaker 2: our properties, run us our property in that one.
- 23:06Speaker 1: This is reality with the King, and I'm Carlos King.
- 23:10Speaker 3: Let's get back into the show.
- 23:13Speaker 1: And this is something that a lot of people who
- 23:16Speaker 1: have money don't really talk about publicly.
- 23:19Speaker 3: And that's why I wanted you to know that.
- 23:21Speaker 1: You know, there's people like me and a lot of
- 23:22Speaker 1: people who can relate to you who just did not
- 23:26Speaker 1: understand the real estate market at the time and who
- 23:30Speaker 1: thought like, this is your way of investment.
- 23:32Speaker 3: So I don't want you to feel ashamed about that. Anything.
- 23:36Speaker 1: Okay, good, because look at the blessing that you have now.
- 23:40Speaker 1: And my advice to everybody watching this who are trying
- 23:44Speaker 1: to like invest in real estate, if you don't have
- 23:47Speaker 1: the love for it, the patience for it, or the
- 23:50Speaker 1: education for it, don't do it. I would rather you,
- 23:53Speaker 1: first of all, disclaimer, do what you want to do.
- 23:55Speaker 1: I would rather you put that money into a stock portfolio.
- 23:59Speaker 2: I would say stock for sure, right, and the bank
- 24:02Speaker 2: is even safer, like, don't trudge it until you know
- 24:05Speaker 2: a safe, sound investment from reputable people, because I got
- 24:09Speaker 2: my advice from people that nobody should trust.
- 24:11Speaker 3: Yeah, I just want you to know you're not along
- 24:13Speaker 3: with that. Okay, thank you.
- 24:16Speaker 1: I do want to talk about your husband, Charles. You
- 24:21Speaker 1: have a lot of fans and they're called fangelus.
- 24:25Speaker 2: Yeah, and I.
- 24:27Speaker 3: May be the president of cy of it.
- 24:32Speaker 1: I love him.
- 24:35Speaker 3: I'm a fangela. There's a lot of people.
- 24:39Speaker 1: Who love you and watch the show, and they feel
- 24:42Speaker 1: like Charles does not love you the way that you
- 24:47Speaker 1: love him. They feel like your husband is very dismissive
- 24:50Speaker 1: of you. He did not seem to care that you
- 24:54Speaker 1: were out of the country for anniversary. You guys do
- 24:58Speaker 1: dual interviews together. They feel like he's very dismissive of you,
- 25:03Speaker 1: and your fans are concerned that you are in a
- 25:08Speaker 1: marriage that's one sided and they want you to run.
- 25:12Speaker 2: I see I see the fans, and it's funny because
- 25:17Speaker 2: you know, when I took the show, was like, Oh,
- 25:18Speaker 2: everybody knows Charles. We're gonna be good. Everybody knows Charles
- 25:22Speaker 2: from his NBA playing days. They know his attitude, they
- 25:25Speaker 2: know who he is. And I was reading the comments
- 25:28Speaker 2: on Twitter one day and they were like, girl, we
- 25:30Speaker 2: don't know your husband. It was like, straight man, they
- 25:35Speaker 2: know your.
- 25:41Speaker 4: Basketball.
- 25:44Speaker 2: And I read that comment. I was like, girl, you
- 25:47Speaker 2: in danger because nobody is.
- 25:50Speaker 4: God, I understand my husband.
- 25:53Speaker 2: I just was like, oh, this is go one or
- 25:55Speaker 2: two ways, and both of them are bad. First of all,
- 26:00Speaker 2: First of all, Charles, what do you know about the
- 26:03Speaker 2: husbands that a lot of people don't know about the
- 26:05Speaker 2: husbands on this show? Is there anything you can say?
- 26:08Speaker 3: They don't get paid.
- 26:12Speaker 4: That's not a secret.
- 26:14Speaker 1: Know Andy has said that, it's widely known, but husbands,
- 26:18Speaker 1: all these housewives don't get paid.
- 26:19Speaker 3: And that's my way.
- 26:21Speaker 2: I'm gonna go deeper, but go ahead.
- 26:23Speaker 4: Oh they don't get paid.
- 26:24Speaker 2: But that's that.
- 26:25Speaker 1: And they feel like this is your thing, and husbands.
- 26:32Speaker 3: Have to take so much of their time to do it.
- 26:35Speaker 1: But that's why a lot of housewives give their husbands
- 26:38Speaker 1: ten percent of their first.
- 26:40Speaker 2: Of all, I gotta be getting paid. We're not gonna
- 26:44Speaker 2: go the.
- 26:46Speaker 3: Next season you did, but no.
- 26:50Speaker 2: So Charles is one of the few husbands that I
- 26:53Speaker 2: know that everywhere he shows up he gets paid because
- 26:57Speaker 2: that's his brand. That's how he earns his money. He
- 26:59Speaker 2: did that. They're years of work, or the twenty years
- 27:01Speaker 2: of work to get to a place to where he
- 27:04Speaker 2: can just show up and get paid. So a lot
- 27:06Speaker 2: of what you see is me sitting there like, oh god,
- 27:09Speaker 2: I hope you don't remember he's not getting paid. Oh
- 27:11Speaker 2: I don't remember he's not getting paid because he's like,
- 27:14Speaker 2: what am I doing? I'm only doing this for you.
- 27:17Speaker 2: And when I asked him, you know, in the interview,
- 27:21Speaker 2: like they're gonna think you don't love me, he's looking
- 27:23Speaker 2: at me like girl. I wouldn't have done that at home.
- 27:27Speaker 2: I wouldn't have been like, Charles, do you love me?
- 27:29Speaker 2: You know? So a little bit of that was me
- 27:31Speaker 2: putting on because I know my husband, and that's why
- 27:34Speaker 2: I said I couldn't have done this in twenty seventeen
- 27:37Speaker 2: or twenty sixteen, I would have believed my husband didn't
- 27:41Speaker 2: love me. But I know that man loves me. There's
- 27:45Speaker 2: nothing about what he's done or is doing present day
- 27:50Speaker 2: that would make me feel he doesn't love me now,
- 27:52Speaker 2: him being Charles and not picking up the phone while
- 27:55Speaker 2: he's here watching the kids while I'm working on a
- 27:59Speaker 2: casture on the first ring, I'm like, really, y'all this,
- 28:03Speaker 2: how y'all Charles a sixty year old man who did
- 28:08Speaker 2: not answer the phone, like.
- 28:10Speaker 4: You know what I mean?
- 28:10Speaker 2: I'm like, what is foreign about that? You know? And
- 28:13Speaker 2: then when he did answer in the scene, you see
- 28:15Speaker 2: my daughter like hey mommy, Like he's home with the kids,
- 28:18Speaker 2: Like he didn't get any credit for that, and no shade,
- 28:21Speaker 2: you know, I can't throw shade at the show or
- 28:23Speaker 2: anything like that. But it's like he just got roked in.
- 28:27Speaker 2: But he is there in some scenes, he's like the
- 28:30Speaker 2: only man and he's like why am I here?
- 28:34Speaker 6: You know?
- 28:34Speaker 2: But he is truly doing that for me and him
- 28:37Speaker 2: and his grumpiness that's who he is now. If it
- 28:40Speaker 2: means he doesn't love me, that's not the case. My
- 28:42Speaker 2: husband loves me. And furthermore, why does the man get
- 28:45Speaker 2: so much credit? Why would I be with the man
- 28:47Speaker 2: who didn't love me? Like I'm self made, have my
- 28:50Speaker 2: own money. I met him as being one of his neighbors,
- 28:54Speaker 2: and I'm confident the second time. Yeah, So I'm confident
- 28:58Speaker 2: who I am. So I'm not gonna be with anyone because,
- 29:01Speaker 2: oh my god, I want this man to love me.
- 29:03Speaker 2: No respect is there, and none of this is disrespect.
- 29:07Speaker 2: We don't tolerate disrespect to one another, like we don't curse.
- 29:11Speaker 2: There's no name calling. It's I know my husband and
- 29:15Speaker 2: the world don't know my husband. So I had to
- 29:18Speaker 2: take that with a grain of salt, especially when the
- 29:20Speaker 2: person said, we don't know your husband.
- 29:22Speaker 1: So yeah, So when it comes to Charles THEO, what
- 29:25Speaker 1: is one thing about him that you wish the world
- 29:31Speaker 1: could see that we're not seeing.
- 29:32Speaker 2: On the show, And it could have been shown like
- 29:36Speaker 2: just his fathering, his nurturing, Like I come home, I
- 29:40Speaker 2: met with a meal every day. He cooks for you
- 29:44Speaker 2: every day every day, like I get mad with I'm
- 29:48Speaker 2: like the man in that aspect, I'm like, what a wood?
- 29:53Speaker 2: You know what you mean? All day? Ain't nothing on
- 29:55Speaker 2: the stone, No he cooks for me, and he's he
- 29:58Speaker 2: understands me. He's patient, patient with me, and he gives
- 30:01Speaker 2: me what I need. And so I know people are
- 30:04Speaker 2: looking for this, this outwardly affectionate person. He's just not that,
- 30:09Speaker 2: But that doesn't introduce his love for me, you know,
- 30:12Speaker 2: and how he shows it for me. And I love
- 30:15Speaker 2: my husband. He loves me too. He loves me too.
- 30:18Speaker 2: I have my family.
- 30:19Speaker 1: I said it on my YouTube show, My Mother and
- 30:21Speaker 1: I Live, I said, Charles Oakley reminds.
- 30:25Speaker 3: Me of my father.
- 30:26Speaker 2: Everybody says that.
- 30:28Speaker 1: So my father was born in nineteen forty nine, he's
- 30:31Speaker 1: seventy six. He is an old school black man from Detroit, Michigan,
- 30:36Speaker 1: and my father.
- 30:39Speaker 3: Just doesn't show affection.
- 30:41Speaker 1: So growing up, I never thought my father loved me
- 30:43Speaker 1: because he never said it. And years later I spoke
- 30:48Speaker 1: to him and he said.
- 30:51Speaker 3: My Papa, Taul's crazy, motherfucker.
- 30:53Speaker 4: I thought you all this shit and you needed this,
- 30:55Speaker 4: and you.
- 30:57Speaker 3: Know, my father takes credit everything. Look at you now, motherfucker.
- 31:02Speaker 2: That's me.
- 31:03Speaker 4: That's it, okay.
- 31:04Speaker 1: So I understood my father's love language was different, and
- 31:08Speaker 1: the way my father.
- 31:10Speaker 3: Loved about my mother wasn't what you see in the movies.
- 31:15Speaker 1: So when I look at Charles, I always said, look,
- 31:18Speaker 1: I understand that maybe this this younger generation may not
- 31:23Speaker 1: understand how an old school black man loves up on
- 31:26Speaker 1: his wife. And I never thought he was dismissive to you.
- 31:30Speaker 1: I promise I never thought that. And the one thing
- 31:34Speaker 1: that I always thought was this man is this legendary
- 31:38Speaker 1: NBA player, and.
- 31:40Speaker 3: I want to have a real conversation with you.
- 31:42Speaker 1: I know for a fact that when it comes to
- 31:45Speaker 1: a man of that status to be okay with his
- 31:52Speaker 1: wife having her turn at this, that sometimes that's not
- 31:57Speaker 1: the case. Because one thing I will say to you,
- 32:00Speaker 1: I have spoken to a lot of wives of former
- 32:05Speaker 1: sports athletes players right who's who made the decision of
- 32:15Speaker 1: their wife not joining reality television because they wanted to
- 32:20Speaker 1: keep their wife in the house and they knew that
- 32:23Speaker 1: I do not want to share the spotlight with her.
- 32:26Speaker 1: So I know for a fact that the fact that
- 32:29Speaker 1: you're on the show is because your husband believes in
- 32:32Speaker 1: you and he wants this for you.
- 32:35Speaker 3: Because so many girls, even when I.
- 32:36Speaker 1: Was on Hospital in Atlanta and I spent one season,
- 32:39Speaker 1: season nine contacting, I spoke to seventy five women and
- 32:45Speaker 1: a lot of them said to me, I want to
- 32:47Speaker 1: do it, but my husband won't let me. He won't
- 32:51Speaker 1: let me, and I know that there have to be
- 32:53Speaker 1: a conversation with you and Charles about you joining the show.
- 32:57Speaker 3: What made him say I'm okay.
- 33:00Speaker 2: With this, and I appreciate you giving him that, giving
- 33:04Speaker 2: him credit for that. Just wanting to dim his light,
- 33:08Speaker 2: if you will, and just say go. Even when we're
- 33:10Speaker 2: out now and we're walking or whatever, he'll push me
- 33:14Speaker 2: forward like there she go, y'all, there she go, Like
- 33:16Speaker 2: he's my biggest fan. Aside from that, in twenty seventeen,
- 33:21Speaker 2: we were not ready and he was more reluctant than
- 33:24Speaker 2: he was just like no, And now I know why
- 33:26Speaker 2: because he was doing what he probably wanted to do.
- 33:30Speaker 2: And now he's just like, you know what, it is,
- 33:33Speaker 2: your turn, you know, do what you want to do.
- 33:36Speaker 2: I got your back, Like I am a good wife.
- 33:39Speaker 2: And when I tell you a good wife, not so much.
- 33:41Speaker 2: I'm gonna sit back and let you do what you
- 33:43Speaker 2: want to do. Not that kind of wife. But I'm
- 33:45Speaker 2: gonna build you up, I'm gonna support you. I'm just
- 33:49Speaker 2: I'm just there, you know, I'm a good wife, good mom,
- 33:53Speaker 2: all of that, and to go back to your father.
- 33:56Speaker 2: As far as affection, Now, if you see Charles with
- 33:58Speaker 2: the kids, yeah, it's like night like this is his world.
- 34:04Speaker 2: So they get all of that. And I believe this
- 34:08Speaker 2: man in n born in nineteen sixty two, sixty three, whatever,
- 34:13Speaker 2: he has a certain amount of affection that he can
- 34:17Speaker 2: provide or that he gives, and he gives it to
- 34:21Speaker 2: me in the way that I need it, and he
- 34:23Speaker 2: gives it to my kids in the way that they
- 34:25Speaker 2: need it. So I'm just gonna I'm gonna stand beside
- 34:29Speaker 2: him because I know the world don't get to see that.
- 34:32Speaker 2: And I hate that they didn't show that because there
- 34:35Speaker 2: was plenty of that to be seen. But you know,
- 34:40Speaker 2: and back to he's you know, he didn't get paid.
- 34:42Speaker 2: All of this is him doing this for me. Him
- 34:45Speaker 2: showing up in a room full of women he do
- 34:47Speaker 2: not know who's starting rumors or who's just participating in
- 34:51Speaker 2: rumors about him, says a lot. And he is so
- 34:55Speaker 2: no nonsense For him to sit there patiently knowing he
- 34:58Speaker 2: ready to cost everybody. I appreciate, you know, it's only
- 35:03Speaker 2: because of his love for me. So we did have
- 35:06Speaker 2: the conversation when we got the show this year. We
- 35:09Speaker 2: met with everyone and he's just like, I just hope
- 35:12Speaker 2: you do her right. And he told that to production.
- 35:15Speaker 2: I could just do her right, you know, because I
- 35:17Speaker 2: know how it could be a lot of BS involved.
- 35:20Speaker 2: Just make sure she's done right. And anytime he may
- 35:23Speaker 2: have felt excuse me, I wasn't done right, you would
- 35:26Speaker 2: make that known too. So we did have that conversation
- 35:30Speaker 2: and it landed us here. So we're on the same
- 35:32Speaker 2: page and he's showing up.
- 35:34Speaker 3: No, he shows up, and that means more than anything.
- 35:36Speaker 1: So one of the things that I do want to
- 35:39Speaker 1: talk to you about your transparency on the show because
- 35:43Speaker 1: what I do feel is missing in the landscape of
- 35:46Speaker 1: reality television is a lot of people joined for the
- 35:49Speaker 1: wrong reasons.
- 35:51Speaker 3: They joined the show for.
- 35:53Speaker 1: Instant faith, and that's okay, that's fine, but there is
- 35:57Speaker 1: an exchange because it's a reality show. So the exchange
- 36:02Speaker 1: in your design for fame or money is to showcase
- 36:05Speaker 1: your reality. Just like a singer can make money off
- 36:09Speaker 1: of being famous and all of those things if he
- 36:13Speaker 1: or she doesn't open the mouth to sing a song.
- 36:16Speaker 1: So I look at it that way when it comes
- 36:17Speaker 1: to reality. You have been very transparent about your reality.
- 36:22Speaker 1: You were very honest about Charles' infidelity, and you talk
- 36:27Speaker 1: about maybe it didn't work out for you guys in
- 36:30Speaker 1: twenty seventeen because he was doing his own thing, right.
- 36:33Speaker 1: What I want to talk to you about is his infidelity.
- 36:37Speaker 1: How did that impact you when you discovered it?
- 36:43Speaker 2: You know, So Charles we got married. I think he
- 36:46Speaker 2: was fifty three and I think he was the early fifties,
- 36:51Speaker 2: but he had never been married, and so I was
- 36:54Speaker 2: just like, I know, he waited all his life for me,
- 36:57Speaker 2: and I was very delusional about out what was happening
- 37:03Speaker 2: in regards to growing up. I thought, you know, you
- 37:05Speaker 2: get married, there's this white picket fence in this house,
- 37:09Speaker 2: and you live happily ever after, not really breaking down
- 37:12Speaker 2: the individual you're marrying or the individual you have to
- 37:16Speaker 2: become to be married. And so when I found out,
- 37:20Speaker 2: of course, i was I'm like, wait a minute, you wait,
- 37:22Speaker 2: all these just first of all, people DM me. Uh
- 37:29Speaker 2: when we were dating. Yeah, someone DM me, And I
- 37:33Speaker 2: was just like and uh, And so I said, and
- 37:37Speaker 2: if you see and you know on the show, I'm like,
- 37:39Speaker 2: my dms are flooded. Well that's where that came from.
- 37:42Speaker 2: Someone DM me. A few people DM me like, hey,
- 37:45Speaker 2: oh he's married. I didn't know this when we first
- 37:47Speaker 2: got married. And uh, someone actually did that too when
- 37:51Speaker 2: we were dating, and I'm like, wait a minute, like
- 37:53Speaker 2: what's going on. You're you at this big age and
- 37:56Speaker 2: you don't understand what marriage is?
- 37:58Speaker 1: Did you ever come from him with those texts?
- 38:02Speaker 3: And he would deny it.
- 38:03Speaker 2: Yeah, of course he was just like no, you know,
- 38:07Speaker 2: but I was crushed, and I'm like, okay, I get
- 38:11Speaker 2: who you are, Like I'm sure Carlo dms are popping,
- 38:14Speaker 2: but you know, we can't act like, you know, have
- 38:21Speaker 2: options in these streams. You know what I mean, don't.
- 38:26Speaker 4: Interview a child.
- 38:30Speaker 2: Know what I'm saying is you get what I'm saying, Like,
- 38:33Speaker 2: we're not gonna act like this man don't got outs.
- 38:37Speaker 4: So I had to say that into.
- 38:40Speaker 2: Consideration, like Okay, you know, he's been single all these years.
- 38:44Speaker 4: I love you so much, he's been single all these years.
- 38:49Speaker 2: So he gotta let the you know, the party know
- 38:51Speaker 2: like it's a new So I'm gonna give you grace
- 38:53Speaker 2: for that. Let these women know because he was single,
- 38:57Speaker 2: who's single for fifty something? So he had to let
- 39:01Speaker 2: everybody know I was just like, in my mind, I'm
- 39:03Speaker 2: thinking like, okay, I have zero tolerance for this, but
- 39:06Speaker 2: let's just give him a little grace a month to
- 39:09Speaker 2: let everybody know, you know, like, hey, i'm married, now,
- 39:11Speaker 2: I'm married, now I'm danying, I'm seeing someone, whatever the
- 39:14Speaker 2: timeframe was in the relationship, and so I felt like
- 39:18Speaker 2: he was taking too long let everybody know. I felt
- 39:23Speaker 2: like he was taken too long. And so that was
- 39:26Speaker 2: the beginning of our marriage twenty sixteen or twenty seventeen.
- 39:29Speaker 2: Then Madison squad Garden happened, and I was just it
- 39:33Speaker 2: was just like, okay, that was a lot, and so
- 39:37Speaker 2: that continued him just not fully committing to our marriage.
- 39:45Speaker 2: And so I was devastated because I'm newly married. I
- 39:49Speaker 2: just had a baby, so I'm dealing with postpartum and
- 39:52Speaker 2: I'm learning all this information like what you marry me,
- 39:57Speaker 2: so this means you're with me? And I will say this.
- 40:01Speaker 2: A lot of the women that he dated didn't care,
- 40:04Speaker 2: you know, so here I come like, no, we clean
- 40:06Speaker 2: it all this out. Because he's used to women who
- 40:10Speaker 2: didn't really care, and so it was foreign to him
- 40:13Speaker 2: to have someone say no, this is what marriage looks
- 40:15Speaker 2: like to me, and this is what a relationship with
- 40:17Speaker 2: me looks like. So we had clean this up. This
- 40:20Speaker 2: is not it. And again the Madison Square Garden happened.
- 40:23Speaker 2: He was doing good and then he just.
- 40:26Speaker 1: And how long were you guys separated after that institute?
- 40:29Speaker 2: It wasn't that long. It was probably about three or
- 40:31Speaker 2: four months. It wasn't that long. It w and we
- 40:34Speaker 2: lived separately cause I'm like, this is a lot. But
- 40:39Speaker 2: before the separation, I was just like, Okay, am I
- 40:42Speaker 2: gonna stick hang in here? You know, am I gonna
- 40:44Speaker 2: deal with this? It's just too much. It was too
- 40:47Speaker 2: much because I didn't feel like I was getting the
- 40:51Speaker 2: support or the the action I needed from him. And
- 40:56Speaker 2: so he started to make strides and we got in
- 41:00Speaker 2: therapy because he was willing to fight for it, and
- 41:04Speaker 2: he was just like, you know what, I'm not about
- 41:05Speaker 2: to lose my family. I had a new baby, and
- 41:09Speaker 2: you know it took him sometimes to clean out that
- 41:11Speaker 2: closet and did I did.
- 41:14Speaker 3: There's a lot of women who are watching this.
- 41:16Speaker 1: What advice would you give married women who have experienced
- 41:21Speaker 1: their husband cheating on them during the marriage and finding
- 41:28Speaker 1: a place within your heart for forgiveness, to take him
- 41:33Speaker 1: back and to really work together on the second win
- 41:38Speaker 1: of your matrimony.
- 41:40Speaker 2: First of all, it has to be some level of respect, right,
- 41:44Speaker 2: this was nothing. He was blatantly Like he calls me
- 41:47Speaker 2: the FBI because I was looking for like, he wasn't
- 41:51Speaker 2: forward cheating, Like you know what I mean? Do you
- 41:53Speaker 2: understand what I'm saying? He wasn't being disrespectful.
- 41:55Speaker 1: There is a thing called disrespectful cheating And for the
- 41:58Speaker 1: audience to know, cause you don't know, is when you
- 42:00Speaker 1: are just blatantly out here taking girls to the same
- 42:04Speaker 1: spot to take your why and then like you know,
- 42:09Speaker 1: just being very open about it, disrespectful.
- 42:11Speaker 2: So he was definitely convert and it will take a
- 42:15Speaker 2: level of investigation for me to find out because you know,
- 42:19Speaker 2: I wanted to know. I did go through his phone,
- 42:21Speaker 2: you know, that's how I found out. And you know,
- 42:24Speaker 2: in addition to women DM and me. So he calls
- 42:28Speaker 2: me the FBI because I want to know what's going on.
- 42:33Speaker 2: But if the respect isn't there, I wouldn't And you know,
- 42:39Speaker 2: cheating is disrespectful. It is disrespectful to your vowels, it's
- 42:42Speaker 2: disrespectful to your relationship. So I'm not going to say
- 42:45Speaker 2: I wasn't disrespected, because I was. But I will say,
- 42:52Speaker 2: if your husband is really trying to and it's not
- 42:55Speaker 2: hard to stop, right, it's not hard to stop your
- 43:00Speaker 2: wife like this is not anything you know hard? Uh.
- 43:04Speaker 2: With Charles, he was willing to make those steps, and
- 43:08Speaker 2: again he did the work. You know, he went to
- 43:12Speaker 2: therapy as a man who's never stepped foot in therapy.
- 43:16Speaker 2: He was like, is this what it takes for me
- 43:18Speaker 2: to save my family? And why do I do these things?
- 43:21Speaker 3: Oh?
- 43:21Speaker 2: I was a professional basketball player. These women just it
- 43:24Speaker 2: was easy, you know, it was just easy. Like he's
- 43:28Speaker 2: jet setting with some of the biggest names that we know,
- 43:32Speaker 2: so it's easy. And so for him, he was just
- 43:35Speaker 2: he didn't see anything wrong with it until I came along.
- 43:38Speaker 2: So I would say to those women, if your husband
- 43:41Speaker 2: is willing to make the strides to make it work,
- 43:45Speaker 2: then hang in there. But if it's abusive, disrespectful, all
- 43:48Speaker 2: of those things, by no means, by no means, by
- 43:52Speaker 2: no means.
- 43:53Speaker 3: Some of just dawned to me. Is that the reason
- 43:55Speaker 3: why when portion made the inappropriate joke.
- 44:02Speaker 1: About fucking your husband, did that trigger something in you?
- 44:08Speaker 1: Just based on what you had to deal with with
- 44:13Speaker 1: not only women DM and you are you were dating,
- 44:15Speaker 1: not only this happened when you're married to him, knowing
- 44:19Speaker 1: that within your husband experience there are beautiful women who
- 44:24Speaker 1: don't mind being a side chick. They wear it on
- 44:27Speaker 1: their chest, and you having to separate from him from
- 44:32Speaker 1: three to four months because of this. When you heard that,
- 44:36Speaker 1: did that trigger the past trauma that you had to
- 44:41Speaker 1: experience in terms of like I am.
- 44:46Speaker 3: Reminded of what I had to recover from.
- 44:50Speaker 2: You know what a lot of people think. You know,
- 44:53Speaker 2: I ran in the DMS like, oh, if Portia can
- 44:56Speaker 2: sleep with him, then he ain't. And you you know,
- 44:59Speaker 2: why are you so can that? A woman said that,
- 45:01Speaker 2: you know, said that about your husband. I wasn't if
- 45:04Speaker 2: it was twenty seventeen, yeah, but be it that we
- 45:07Speaker 2: did the work and I really really trust my husband.
- 45:11Speaker 2: The issue was pretty It wasn't really Charles. It was
- 45:17Speaker 2: the disrespect to me as his wife or as a
- 45:21Speaker 2: woman on this show with you. That's where the disrespect.
- 45:25Speaker 2: I ain't even let the disrespect get to Charles. You're
- 45:27Speaker 2: disrespecting me. First of all, we're gonna acknowledge me. That's
- 45:31Speaker 2: where I got triggered. She could have said everything she
- 45:34Speaker 2: wanted to say about Charles, but you're talking about my husband,
- 45:38Speaker 2: So first you have to deal with me, and you're
- 45:41Speaker 2: doing it. You're saying it an earshot of me, you know.
- 45:45Speaker 2: So that's where the disrespect was. And it didn't take
- 45:49Speaker 2: me to any trauma or anything like oh he cheated.
- 45:52Speaker 2: No no, no, no, this is woman and woman, this
- 45:55Speaker 2: is grown woman stuff. You're disrespecting me, Angela, you know
- 46:00Speaker 2: what I mean, Like, I'm here as a woman trying
- 46:02Speaker 2: to do my job just like you are. And I
- 46:05Speaker 2: don't know if it was a threat that she would
- 46:07Speaker 2: have acted on or tried to, and it would have
- 46:10Speaker 2: been like nothing she's ever seen before if she did,
- 46:13Speaker 2: you know what I mean, because I'm just not that
- 46:16Speaker 2: type of girl you can play with like that. You know,
- 46:19Speaker 2: you can't disrespect me till my face about my husband
- 46:23Speaker 2: and think you're going to act on that. That's just
- 46:26Speaker 2: not the games I played. But I don't even think
- 46:30Speaker 2: people see that the disrespect was aimed at me.
- 46:33Speaker 1: I wanted to cause again, you talked about it before
- 46:37Speaker 1: in this conversation, especially on my podcast. I like to
- 46:40Speaker 1: go deeper than the surface stuff. So again, that question
- 46:44Speaker 1: came to me just based on your experience. Because one
- 46:47Speaker 1: of those things like this, if I overcame something and
- 46:52Speaker 1: I hear something within earshot.
- 46:55Speaker 3: That's not being said to my face, but I'm hearing it.
- 47:00Speaker 1: All of these memories and stuff that I healed from
- 47:05Speaker 1: is now coming back to the forefront. So I just
- 47:08Speaker 1: want to know if it was something to where it was,
- 47:10Speaker 1: like I dealt with this situation before. I don't know
- 47:14Speaker 1: you that well, I'm getting to know you. You're saying
- 47:17Speaker 1: it behind my back. There are people who say you
- 47:21Speaker 1: steal people's husbands, So I want to know, like, well,
- 47:23Speaker 1: all of those things coming.
- 47:26Speaker 2: To your it was coming to me in a place
- 47:29Speaker 2: of disrespect. It wasn't a place it wasn't a place
- 47:32Speaker 2: of fear. Do you see what I'm saying, Like I
- 47:34Speaker 2: found disrespected?
- 47:35Speaker 1: Did you feel for did you ever think for a
- 47:38Speaker 1: second that Porsche was capable of acting out on that comment?
- 47:42Speaker 2: Well, I thought she was capable of what could she
- 47:44Speaker 2: do it? No, because that goes back to the work
- 47:47Speaker 2: me and my husband is done. You see what I'm saying.
- 47:50Speaker 2: I hope, I hope that's I get.
- 47:52Speaker 1: It you okay, because I want to I want to
- 47:54Speaker 1: clear the air for the work. It was never about
- 47:58Speaker 1: Porsche being capable of acting out on the threat successfully
- 48:06Speaker 1: because you and your husband did the work, and regardless
- 48:10Speaker 1: if Porschell wanted to or not, your issue was never
- 48:16Speaker 1: could she be successful in doing that to Charles? Because
- 48:21Speaker 1: it could be Porsche, it could be Princess, it could
- 48:24Speaker 1: be polar it could be any woman. But it has
- 48:29Speaker 1: nothing to do with Porsche per se. I know my
- 48:32Speaker 1: husband and I know that the work we've done eradicates
- 48:35Speaker 1: him from even wanting to do that.
- 48:37Speaker 3: It was presented to him. You were more focused on
- 48:40Speaker 3: this woman.
- 48:42Speaker 1: It's saying something about my husband, and she's disrespecting me,
- 48:47Speaker 1: and she's doing it behind my back, and she's doing
- 48:51Speaker 1: it laughing and joking with other women, two who are married,
- 48:57Speaker 1: and they're all thinking this a joke, and they're playing
- 49:01Speaker 1: in my face.
- 49:02Speaker 2: That's where what got it. The disrespect was there from
- 49:05Speaker 2: the beginning, got it. So as far as Charles, if
- 49:08Speaker 2: it was in portion like you said, it could be polite.
- 49:10Speaker 2: Not I don't want to say, because that is every day.
- 49:19Speaker 2: There are women now who would plea with my husband.
- 49:22Speaker 2: You know what I mean? That threat is never going
- 49:23Speaker 2: to be gone, no matter who says it, you know
- 49:25Speaker 2: what I mean. So the work has to be with Charles,
- 49:28Speaker 2: because I can't block all of that no matter who
- 49:31Speaker 2: says it. So the work has to be with my husband.
- 49:34Speaker 2: But as far as we were concerned, you're disrespecting me,
- 49:39Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Me, Angela right here on
- 49:41Speaker 2: this show with you. And that's where it became an
- 49:45Speaker 2: issue because you can say whatever you want. And again,
- 49:48Speaker 2: people want to throw you off your game, especially if
- 49:50Speaker 2: you're seen as a threat, or you're coming on strong,
- 49:53Speaker 2: or you you're doing good at what you do. People
- 49:56Speaker 2: want to throw you on your you know, throw you
- 49:58Speaker 2: off your game. And that isn't gonna happen with me.
- 50:01Speaker 2: I wanted to first establish boundaries with respect, and you're
- 50:07Speaker 2: being Hella disrespectful to me. And then Charles comes and
- 50:12Speaker 2: all that, my kids, all that comes after that, But
- 50:14Speaker 2: first you gotta deal with me.
- 50:18Speaker 3: In your heart of hearts, do you like Porscha?
- 50:22Speaker 2: You know what I do? I mean, in my heart
- 50:25Speaker 2: of hearts, I think she's a fun girl, you know,
- 50:29Speaker 2: all of the things. But do I like that character
- 50:34Speaker 2: trait of a woman who can say that? Who could
- 50:37Speaker 2: even say that? No, I wouldn't. No, I wouldn't surround
- 50:42Speaker 2: myself with that with someone who would say that, So
- 50:46Speaker 2: you hear what I'm saying. So No, I don't align
- 50:51Speaker 2: with that at all at all. But as far as
- 50:53Speaker 2: the flip side, I think she's a fun girl and
- 50:56Speaker 2: that's bigger than just Porsche. I don't want to talk
- 51:00Speaker 2: about Porsch any woman who can just say that I
- 51:03Speaker 2: don't align with Like, I take my vowels and my
- 51:06Speaker 2: marriage seriously and as well as I take my respect
- 51:10Speaker 2: for me seriously.
- 51:12Speaker 1: Is it going to be hard for you and Porsche
- 51:14Speaker 1: to ever develop a real friendship because of what she said.
- 51:17Speaker 2: About She's apologized and she's apologized to him. I think
- 51:23Speaker 2: it's one of those things where it's just like I
- 51:25Speaker 2: see you, you know what I mean, Like I see you,
- 51:28Speaker 2: and that's just gonna always be there. And that's because
- 51:31Speaker 2: that's the space you created. That's not anything I did.
- 51:34Speaker 2: That's the space you created. So no, I feel like
- 51:39Speaker 2: you just know, you know, I see you, I see you.
- 51:42Speaker 2: And that's if she never acted on it or had
- 51:44Speaker 2: any intentions on acting on it, it's just we just
- 51:47Speaker 2: gotta stop. At the point of you said it, you
- 51:50Speaker 2: know that means something just saying it.
- 51:53Speaker 3: You know, would you ever invite Porsche to your home?
- 52:00Speaker 3: I did, well, you know, like around Charles.
- 52:05Speaker 2: You know what, I trust Charles. It's nothing she can
- 52:08Speaker 2: do to Charles right so, and to bye anyone into
- 52:12Speaker 2: my home. We have to have a relationship. I'm not
- 52:14Speaker 2: just gonna say, oh, let's let's see if Portia could
- 52:17Speaker 2: fuck Charles. You know, That's not what I'm trying to
- 52:19Speaker 2: do with any woman, a woman who says that. And
- 52:22Speaker 2: I'm not saying Porsche. She has a beautiful home. She
- 52:25Speaker 2: doesn't probably need a reason to come to my house.
- 52:28Speaker 2: But as far as where we are right now, I
- 52:30Speaker 2: think it's still steps that need to be taken.
- 52:34Speaker 1: I do want to get your thoughts on brit When
- 52:40Speaker 1: Kenya did the poster boards of revealing you know, BRIT's
- 52:50Speaker 1: alleged past, bring me in a comment that she was
- 52:57Speaker 1: under investigation per her you know, for her insurance license.
- 53:03Speaker 1: You instantly was like, that doesn't make any sense to me,
- 53:06Speaker 1: and she was really aggressive. But when it came to
- 53:12Speaker 1: her defending her statement, and you, again, cool, calm and collected,
- 53:18Speaker 1: said I know that life, I know that world, and
- 53:20Speaker 1: I don't buy it is that the moment that you
- 53:27Speaker 1: started to question who brit Edie really is in terms
- 53:33Speaker 1: of her character.
- 53:36Speaker 2: I think the moment I started to question her character
- 53:41Speaker 2: was we were all speaking with her after she made
- 53:44Speaker 2: the gun threat and we were asking Meia's house. I
- 53:46Speaker 2: don't know if you saw the you did see we
- 53:49Speaker 2: were as Samia's house and we had a moment with
- 53:51Speaker 2: her after she made the gun threat to Kenya and
- 53:55Speaker 2: we were like, girl, you did too much, Like why
- 53:58Speaker 2: would you even say that? She was very in that moment.
- 54:03Speaker 2: She was very unapologetic. It was also it was just
- 54:07Speaker 2: almost like entitled, you know. It was just almost like
- 54:12Speaker 2: I made a mistake whatever, you know, And I just
- 54:15Speaker 2: felt like, girl, just have some empathy, you know. And
- 54:20Speaker 2: I realized then that, okay, she lacks accountability and whatever
- 54:27Speaker 2: she does. And you know, I've been a mom a
- 54:29Speaker 2: long time, so I can see, you know, certain qualities
- 54:33Speaker 2: and in her it was just she's never gonna hold
- 54:36Speaker 2: herself accountable. And that's not saying anything bad about her.
- 54:39Speaker 2: It's just, you know, a character flaw that she had
- 54:41Speaker 2: and I was able to pick up on it.
- 54:44Speaker 3: Were you surprised that Britain I show up at the reunion.
- 54:47Speaker 2: Oh, of course, of course. I was definitely surprised because
- 54:51Speaker 2: she had been on social media like I can't wait
- 54:53Speaker 2: to see you guys at the reunion, you know, and
- 54:55Speaker 2: I felt like there was a lot she needed to
- 54:57Speaker 2: answer to. You know, she said a lot, She said
- 55:00Speaker 2: a lot you know, about me, about my husband, and
- 55:04Speaker 2: I feel like she needed to answer to that. So
- 55:06Speaker 2: for her to, you know, not come to the reunion,
- 55:10Speaker 2: I didn't like that. I want her to be there.
- 55:12Speaker 2: I really want her to be there, and she wasn't,
- 55:15Speaker 2: But I feel like she should have, you know, been there.
- 55:17Speaker 3: What do you think my everything going on with her
- 55:19Speaker 3: right now that she's doing.
- 55:21Speaker 2: I mean, I think she feels like she's right, and
- 55:25Speaker 2: again she she has a case, you know, she feels
- 55:28Speaker 2: that way. I'm not surprised. I'm not surprised at what
- 55:33Speaker 2: she's doing. And I hate it had to happen that
- 55:35Speaker 2: way for her, But I'm not surprised she took that
- 55:38Speaker 2: route at all.
- 55:40Speaker 3: Why aren't you surprised?
- 55:41Speaker 2: Because it keeps the attention on her, you know what
- 55:45Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not deducing anything she's experienced or her feelings,
- 55:50Speaker 2: because that's big with her. You don't understand how I feel. No,
- 55:53Speaker 2: I'm not deducing her feelings. I'm just saying it keeps
- 55:56Speaker 2: everything on her and even while feeling it was me me,
- 56:01Speaker 2: no matter what the situation was. So it just continues
- 56:05Speaker 2: that narrative that look at me, this is what's happening
- 56:09Speaker 2: to me, you know, damn everybody else.
- 56:12Speaker 1: Do you think Kelly distanced herself from Britt the moment
- 56:21Speaker 1: after the pictures came about King has removed from the show,
- 56:26Speaker 1: You and her get into a little tiff. She starts
- 56:29Speaker 1: to get to a few of the girls. Do you
- 56:31Speaker 1: think Kelly just started to realize Do you think Kelly
- 56:38Speaker 1: realized that brit is a seeking ship and I may
- 56:43Speaker 1: need to hop on another team.
- 56:44Speaker 2: Absolutely, absolutely, absolutely no shade to Kelly, even though she
- 56:50Speaker 2: probably will take this to shade, but absolutely I really
- 56:54Speaker 2: feel like what made the Og so good is that
- 56:56Speaker 2: they will die on a hill by themselves. They don't
- 57:00Speaker 2: care about lashing on to anybody.
- 57:07Speaker 8: I love that about the Ogs and I wanted to
- 57:11Speaker 8: embody that, and when I don't see the other women
- 57:15Speaker 8: embodying that, like, yeah, so what I'm brit spryand I'm
- 57:18Speaker 8: gonna down this hill?
- 57:19Speaker 2: Is Britspryan?
- 57:20Speaker 6: Right?
- 57:21Speaker 2: Wrong or indifferent, you know what I mean, That's what.
- 57:23Speaker 6: I wanted to see.
- 57:25Speaker 2: But when I saw, I'm like, girl, you know she
- 57:27Speaker 2: just I'm not gonna say that she jumped ship. Yeah
- 57:33Speaker 2: she did.
- 57:36Speaker 3: I'm so glad I got you because I want to
- 57:38Speaker 3: ask you this because.
- 57:42Speaker 4: I don't think a lot.
- 57:43Speaker 3: Of people caught it.
- 57:45Speaker 1: So in portion made an inappropriate joke, and you saw
- 57:48Speaker 1: her best friends to me in the pool with HERBIEKINNI
- 57:53Speaker 1: laughing at it and not standing upper married women. I
- 57:58Speaker 1: felt that Angela Ogley said, which which, by the way,
- 58:01Speaker 1: before I continued, I.
- 58:03Speaker 3: Fucked the moment. I said, I'm ok.
- 58:07Speaker 1: The is the morning after You're in the lobby and
- 58:12Speaker 1: Kelly and her bubble gum personality honey came in bubbly,
- 58:18Speaker 1: sparkly like a Sarah Tooga sparkling water child, and you
- 58:22Speaker 1: gave her nothing and you said I'm not doing that.
- 58:26Speaker 2: I said, I ain't.
- 58:28Speaker 4: Faked, bitch, bye, I said, oh, do I stand for?
- 58:33Speaker 7: So?
- 58:34Speaker 1: I felt that as you were driven back to Atlanta,
- 58:38Speaker 1: you said, oh, bitch, I got y'all, Samia that little
- 58:43Speaker 1: secret you told me and drew where I put my
- 58:45Speaker 1: fingers back here across the when y'all.
- 58:48Speaker 4: Pinky swore.
- 58:51Speaker 1: Hu and Shmillah told you all the things she felt
- 58:54Speaker 1: about Porsche. And when you rid a Porsche to your
- 58:58Speaker 1: rental property playing tennis, honey giving Serena Williams, t'se yeah, so.
- 59:04Speaker 4: And you said to.
- 59:05Speaker 2: Her, oh my gosh, it was going to be a Porsche.
- 59:09Speaker 4: Did you orchar state that as a payback?
- 59:14Speaker 2: Not intentionally, It kind of just fell and line that way,
- 59:19Speaker 2: because you know what I have been confiding in Shamia.
- 59:22Speaker 2: I felt like Shami and I were building a report.
- 59:25Speaker 2: You know, you saw us at the studio together, You
- 59:27Speaker 2: saw me at her house with brit She gave me
- 59:29Speaker 2: the olive branch. I felt like Shamie and I were
- 59:31Speaker 2: building a rapport and we connected on being married and
- 59:35Speaker 2: all these things. So for me to witness her acting
- 59:40Speaker 2: that way, and you know in Nashville, I'm like, oh
- 59:43Speaker 2: my gosh, Like, I don't owe you anything. You didn't
- 59:46Speaker 2: owe me anything in that moment with Porsche. So why
- 59:49Speaker 2: am I, you know, holding true to this Pinky promise?
- 59:53Speaker 2: So why am I holding things that you told me
- 59:55Speaker 2: in confidence when you you know, you didn't have my
- 59:59Speaker 2: back on I needed you to have my back and
- 1:00:01Speaker 2: so I felt like Porscha needed to know these things,
- 1:00:05Speaker 2: and she did, and I didn't tell it in a
- 1:00:09Speaker 2: way to destroy their friendship, Because if you're friends with
- 1:00:12Speaker 2: someone twenty years, if you let Angela Oakley come through
- 1:00:16Speaker 2: with you know, two minutes of conversation and destroy it,
- 1:00:19Speaker 2: that friendship was already rocky, you know. So I feel
- 1:00:23Speaker 2: like Porsche needed to know those things. Yes, so I
- 1:00:27Speaker 2: did save it for that moment.
- 1:00:29Speaker 1: Based on what Shamiyah said to you Andrew doing this
- 1:00:33Speaker 1: Pinky Square conversation, and based on her actions as she
- 1:00:38Speaker 1: was telling it to you. Do you feel like Shemiah
- 1:00:44Speaker 1: is jealous of Porsche or do you think Porscha is
- 1:00:48Speaker 1: jealous of Shemiah.
- 1:00:50Speaker 2: I don't think. I don't think Portia is jealous of Shamia.
- 1:00:53Speaker 2: I know that's the running narrative. I don't think that
- 1:00:55Speaker 2: at all. I don't think Shamiah is jealous of Portia.
- 1:00:58Speaker 2: I do think, and I said this before, I do
- 1:01:01Speaker 2: think that when Shamiah was invited on the show, she
- 1:01:03Speaker 2: wanted it and she did what she had to do
- 1:01:06Speaker 2: to get it. I don't know if Porscha was welcoming
- 1:01:09Speaker 2: of that, but I feel like she wanted to be
- 1:01:12Speaker 2: on this platform. I don't know where jealousy comes in.
- 1:01:15Speaker 2: I just feel like some you know, maybe Porscha's like, girl,
- 1:01:18Speaker 2: this is mine, this is mine, do your thing. I'm
- 1:01:22Speaker 2: good over here. I'll bring you over from time to time.
- 1:01:25Speaker 2: And Shmi was like, I want it too, you know.
- 1:01:27Speaker 2: So that's probably where the strain began. I don't know,
- 1:01:31Speaker 2: but I don't think it's jealousy, you know, I don't
- 1:01:34Speaker 2: think it's jealousy. Jealousy is a strong word for someone,
- 1:01:38Speaker 2: for a group of girls who've been friends, you know,
- 1:01:40Speaker 2: all those years. So I think maybe a little envy,
- 1:01:44Speaker 2: you know, maybe I want that. Maybe she covered it
- 1:01:46Speaker 2: the platform, Shamiah, But I don't think they're jealous of
- 1:01:50Speaker 2: one another.
- 1:01:51Speaker 1: Do you think shod Me and Porscha are real friends?
- 1:01:54Speaker 1: Just based on you being around them filming and stuff.
- 1:01:56Speaker 2: Sometimes I'm confused. Sometimes I'm looking around like is that real?
- 1:02:00Speaker 2: You know? Are they for real? But I will say
- 1:02:05Speaker 2: now I know that they are truly at a place impass.
- 1:02:10Speaker 2: I truly think they're, you know, taking some space from
- 1:02:13Speaker 2: one another.
- 1:02:14Speaker 3: Fadri came back to the show.
- 1:02:17Speaker 1: You watched the show before prior to Phaedria coming back
- 1:02:20Speaker 1: this season were you a fan of Phaedra?
- 1:02:24Speaker 2: You know what, I was a fan of the one
- 1:02:25Speaker 2: read that she had. You know what you will know
- 1:02:28Speaker 2: is that your husband, you know, my daughter, you know
- 1:02:34Speaker 2: that one platinum in our house with my daughter. So
- 1:02:37Speaker 2: I was a fan of that. But as far as
- 1:02:39Speaker 2: her character, no, I really you know, she was quiet.
- 1:02:42Speaker 2: She had a little few jazz, but I was mostly
- 1:02:45Speaker 2: team Kenya during that whole you know, back and forth
- 1:02:48Speaker 2: because Keenya just cracked me up, you know, and her
- 1:02:50Speaker 2: little reads back and forth with Phaedra, no shade to Thadre.
- 1:02:53Speaker 2: It's just that that's who I, you know, liked in
- 1:02:55Speaker 2: that little battle.
- 1:02:57Speaker 1: So when Faedri came back to the show, what were
- 1:03:00Speaker 1: your thoughts as you were feeling with her?
- 1:03:02Speaker 2: You know what, it's so crazy, and I was just like,
- 1:03:08Speaker 2: I don't know, I feel like she was going to
- 1:03:10Speaker 2: come for me. I just felt like I just didn't
- 1:03:14Speaker 2: feel the energy would be authentic. And that's just and
- 1:03:18Speaker 2: I have a little bit of discernment. I have a
- 1:03:21Speaker 2: great sense of discernment. I just kind of felt like
- 1:03:24Speaker 2: that would be the case. And I mentioned it to
- 1:03:27Speaker 2: someone who will remain nameless unless she wants to.
- 1:03:30Speaker 3: Come for it and she was a former housewife of Atlanta.
- 1:03:34Speaker 3: Yeah okay, And.
- 1:03:35Speaker 2: She was like, she wouldn't do that. She's not gonna
- 1:03:37Speaker 2: come for you, She's I was just like, it just
- 1:03:39Speaker 2: makes sense, you know. I felt like she would. And
- 1:03:45Speaker 2: I wasn't wrong. She did, you know what I mean?
- 1:03:48Speaker 2: She did. Even watching it now, I see the jabs
- 1:03:52Speaker 2: she's making. I see the in role she's making to
- 1:03:55Speaker 2: my husband and the thing she said about him. So
- 1:03:57Speaker 2: I wasn't wrong. My discernment wasn't wrong. And a lot
- 1:04:00Speaker 2: of fans are like, don't you know I mentioned it
- 1:04:02Speaker 2: on another interview. They were like, doesn't have to come
- 1:04:05Speaker 2: for you? Who do you think you are? No one
- 1:04:07Speaker 2: knows you. I was just like, yeah, it's something there.
- 1:04:10Speaker 3: Why do you think Faedra is coming for you?
- 1:04:12Speaker 1: You're watching the show, she's making tons of comments about
- 1:04:15Speaker 1: your looks. Why do you think Faedra is coming for
- 1:04:18Speaker 1: you so soon?
- 1:04:20Speaker 2: Because who else? Who else? This is? This is a
- 1:04:25Speaker 2: show like who else? And it wouldn't be Portia or
- 1:04:29Speaker 2: Shramia had her back and forth Kelly and Britton, no
- 1:04:33Speaker 2: one would you know, nobody would have cared, you know,
- 1:04:35Speaker 2: and so here I am, and so why not you know,
- 1:04:40Speaker 2: why not?
- 1:04:42Speaker 1: Do you believe what we're seeing happening now with these
- 1:04:45Speaker 1: episodes airing? We just saw this episode that you know,
- 1:04:51Speaker 1: there's this rumor that Phaedra allegedly started that Charles is
- 1:04:56Speaker 1: still cheating on you, and that comes out and you and.
- 1:05:03Speaker 3: Faedra have a back and forth about it.
- 1:05:07Speaker 1: Do you believe Faedra came back on the show and
- 1:05:11Speaker 1: started this rumor that Charles is still cheating on you?
- 1:05:17Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 1:05:18Speaker 3: And you know this because.
- 1:05:21Speaker 2: Because of the person she used to start the rumor
- 1:05:23Speaker 2: told me it was her.
- 1:05:26Speaker 3: Do you believe this person telling the truth?
- 1:05:28Speaker 2: Yes, he had a lot to lose if he didn't,
- 1:05:32Speaker 2: and it's just who he is and things that he'd
- 1:05:35Speaker 2: done in his past. He didn't want to come to light.
- 1:05:38Speaker 2: So I found out about it and I was just like,
- 1:05:42Speaker 2: you're gonna tell me, you know what happened and who
- 1:05:46Speaker 2: sent you? And he beat around the bush and he
- 1:05:49Speaker 2: just said, I'm gonna tell you and he did tell us,
- 1:05:53Speaker 2: and then there was just this connection to Athens George.
- 1:05:56Speaker 2: I'm like, I've never met anybody from Athens George ever,
- 1:05:59Speaker 2: and I've been in Georgia twenty years. Never unless I
- 1:06:03Speaker 2: never and to be in a room with four people
- 1:06:05Speaker 2: from Athens at the same time. I was just like, okay,
- 1:06:08Speaker 2: bad production, bad producing. Uh, but yeah, he did tell me,
- 1:06:12Speaker 2: and I do one hundred percent believe them. I do
- 1:06:15Speaker 2: because everything made sense, like your sister went to high
- 1:06:21Speaker 2: school with her brother, Like you know what I mean,
- 1:06:23Speaker 2: Like you come in this room and you don't know
- 1:06:25Speaker 2: anybody here, but ironically, your sister went to high school
- 1:06:29Speaker 2: with Thadri's brother. You know, I'm like, okay. So it
- 1:06:32Speaker 2: was like, Angela, I told you the truth.
- 1:06:34Speaker 3: Hated How did you feel about that that was all discovered?
- 1:06:40Speaker 2: I was disappointed because I was told, you know, get
- 1:06:43Speaker 2: to know Phage or she's coming by, get to know her,
- 1:06:46Speaker 2: and I kind of looked at her for information, like
- 1:06:49Speaker 2: tell me how this worked. I'm new to realities. He
- 1:06:51Speaker 2: could tell me the inrolls, tell me the inside the
- 1:06:54Speaker 2: inside out, and you know, she was a source of information.
- 1:06:58Speaker 2: So for that to happen, and I was just like, yeah,
- 1:07:01Speaker 2: it was a breach of trust. And you know, I
- 1:07:04Speaker 2: didn't appreciate that at all. And it's like why the
- 1:07:08Speaker 2: truth is so much better than fiction? Like why do
- 1:07:10Speaker 2: you have to lie on my husband? Like let's just
- 1:07:13Speaker 2: talk about the things that we've been through. And when
- 1:07:16Speaker 2: me and Charles took this show, we were like, we're
- 1:07:18Speaker 2: gonna talk about everything we've been through, all of it
- 1:07:22Speaker 2: because we didn't want to be ambushed with anything, so
- 1:07:26Speaker 2: let's let the world know. And for her to create
- 1:07:28Speaker 2: a lie, it was just it was devious.
- 1:07:32Speaker 3: Do you think fed deserves to have a peach.
- 1:07:36Speaker 2: If she does that? No? No, if that's what you're doing.
- 1:07:40Speaker 2: And I understand everybody has to work, right, we need
- 1:07:43Speaker 2: a job, we need to earn a living for our
- 1:07:45Speaker 2: kids and to continue our lifestyles. But really, I don't
- 1:07:50Speaker 2: think that's what this is. But I'm so low on
- 1:07:55Speaker 2: the total poll. I no saying that, and I'm not
- 1:08:00Speaker 2: trying to get her fired. Maybe this is a learning curve,
- 1:08:04Speaker 2: you know, because everybody is not impressed. And I think
- 1:08:09Speaker 2: that was the misstep a lot of the ladies made,
- 1:08:12Speaker 2: is that I'm supposed to be impressed with the social
- 1:08:15Speaker 2: media following and who they are on the show, and
- 1:08:18Speaker 2: I just wasn't impressed. Not to say anything bad about it,
- 1:08:22Speaker 2: but that's just not though I don't aspire, do you
- 1:08:26Speaker 2: know understand I have?
- 1:08:28Speaker 3: Yeah, so you survived your first reunion.
- 1:08:31Speaker 1: Yes, without giving too much away, how was the season
- 1:08:38Speaker 1: sixteen reunion for you?
- 1:08:40Speaker 3: It's your first?
- 1:08:41Speaker 2: It was good. I am still standing. I had to
- 1:08:47Speaker 2: let everybody know who I was, and I feel like
- 1:08:50Speaker 2: it's gonna be good. I feel like all of the
- 1:08:52Speaker 2: ladies did an amazing job and you know, proving their
- 1:08:55Speaker 2: point or locker up, you know. But we survived, and
- 1:09:01Speaker 2: it's gonna be funny. You know, Charles shows up because
- 1:09:04Speaker 2: he shows up for me, so he's gonna be a
- 1:09:06Speaker 2: three yearion and we just we just it's actually a
- 1:09:12Speaker 2: fun time, crazy enough that I can have a good
- 1:09:15Speaker 2: time with Porsche and Phaedra and all of us in
- 1:09:18Speaker 2: the same room at the same time and we are
- 1:09:20Speaker 2: getting along.
- 1:09:22Speaker 3: It worked out, okay. So come next season? Would you
- 1:09:26Speaker 3: like to come back to next season?
- 1:09:28Speaker 2: I haven't been home for next season yet.
- 1:09:31Speaker 3: Well, I know some people.
- 1:09:34Speaker 1: I'll be making costs myself. I have been known to
- 1:09:37Speaker 1: do that, So you're you'll be back. Who in a
- 1:09:42Speaker 1: perfect world? Who is Angela Oakley's dream cast that you
- 1:09:48Speaker 1: would love to be surrounded by on the Real Housewives
- 1:09:51Speaker 1: in Atlanta?
- 1:09:51Speaker 2: In a perfect world?
- 1:09:52Speaker 3: In a perfect world?
- 1:09:53Speaker 2: Perfect world first and foremost, Yo, you.
- 1:09:57Speaker 3: Know me is crazy.
- 1:10:02Speaker 2: Funny, She's good. Nini Uh Kenya, Kenya, Kenya. We need Kenya,
- 1:10:09Speaker 2: who saved me this season and who allowed me to
- 1:10:13Speaker 2: continue on Cynthia, Cynthia, Cynthia.
- 1:10:18Speaker 1: Porsche Porsche PSA gotta get my shtown girl Drew in there.
- 1:10:25Speaker 2: True. I love me some Drew. And you know what
- 1:10:30Speaker 2: I thought about this for just this comment this lady
- 1:10:35Speaker 2: made on my page and pasties uh turking and pasties
- 1:10:43Speaker 2: Claudia Jordan's.
- 1:10:44Speaker 8: Claudia, she said twirking.
- 1:10:49Speaker 2: She broke the internet on my eye. I cannot believe.
- 1:10:52Speaker 2: Like her mouth is Claudia ring, Claudia bag her run through,
- 1:11:00Speaker 2: like we need to play with Claudia. So I'll bring
- 1:11:03Speaker 2: Claudia and so how ma you do I get? Okay?
- 1:11:08Speaker 2: So I'll bring two more, okay, just because I need
- 1:11:12Speaker 2: somebody to frown at and to make faces at.
- 1:11:16Speaker 1: Bring Faedra okay, okay.
- 1:11:21Speaker 2: And last but not least, who would be on my cast?
- 1:11:26Speaker 2: And I'm gonna get a friend who would get who
- 1:11:28Speaker 2: would be on my cast would be Charaine you Chiel,
- 1:11:33Speaker 2: Charae you, oh my, I'm gonna bring Charae back. It's
- 1:11:43Speaker 2: like we were have fun like I know. I know
- 1:11:47Speaker 2: all the shade she's gonna throw.
- 1:11:49Speaker 6: I know it.
- 1:11:49Speaker 2: You know she's gonna throw shades. She's gonna get me
- 1:11:51Speaker 2: a run for my money. But I like that, you
- 1:11:53Speaker 2: know what I mean? I like that, you know long
- 1:11:55Speaker 2: it's were respectful. Okay with that ball, I get it,
- 1:12:06Speaker 2: I get it.
- 1:12:06Speaker 4: You are good. You want a good show.
- 1:12:11Speaker 2: A good show.
- 1:12:11Speaker 4: Those are some power players you made.
- 1:12:14Speaker 2: And as a friend, we're gonna bring shamia because you
- 1:12:16Speaker 2: know means a friend. Okay, I like you.
- 1:12:21Speaker 3: Okay, you do FRIENDO.
- 1:12:23Speaker 2: Yeah, friend, that's.
- 1:12:31Speaker 4: A good Okay.
- 1:12:33Speaker 1: So before I let you go, it'll be remiss of me.
- 1:12:37Speaker 1: I want to offer my condelensis. I know you recently
- 1:12:40Speaker 1: launch your mother. I did, and as a mama's boy
- 1:12:46Speaker 1: who lost his mother to five years ago, yeah, I.
- 1:12:51Speaker 3: Want you to know that.
- 1:12:52Speaker 1: I I understand because yours is obviously fresh, and being
- 1:12:58Speaker 1: a fan of yours and the.
- 1:13:00Speaker 3: Show your mother so gorgeous did. Look you don't want
- 1:13:05Speaker 3: to cry?
- 1:13:05Speaker 2: Look no, I'm not doing it.
- 1:13:07Speaker 3: I'm sorry.
- 1:13:07Speaker 1: Okay, no, no, no, no, no, But able to be remiss
- 1:13:10Speaker 1: of me not to offer you my condolences. The only
- 1:13:14Speaker 1: quest I'm going to ask, obviously, is was your mother
- 1:13:18Speaker 1: and Charles. Were they able to make a miss before
- 1:13:23Speaker 1: she passed?
- 1:13:25Speaker 2: Well, when she passed, he was the one picking me
- 1:13:27Speaker 2: up off the floor. But aside from that, he cooked
- 1:13:31Speaker 2: the meal she came and ate and that was as
- 1:13:33Speaker 2: good as I needed it to be between them, you know,
- 1:13:36Speaker 2: if my mom was in the room, he recognized my mom,
- 1:13:39Speaker 2: He loved my mom, he knew who she was to me,
- 1:13:43Speaker 2: so they were really good. And again, just to see
- 1:13:46Speaker 2: her on the show say I love him, you know,
- 1:13:48Speaker 2: and for him to say that, I was like, thank you, mam.
- 1:13:51Speaker 2: You know what I mean, because she knows. We all
- 1:13:53Speaker 2: know who Charles is and we love Charles. And I'm
- 1:13:57Speaker 2: happy that that happened. But for you you to understand
- 1:14:01Speaker 2: the pain, I didn't know that. Yeah.
- 1:14:03Speaker 3: No, listen my advice to you, and it's something.
- 1:14:07Speaker 1: It's like this club of kids who lost their mom,
- 1:14:11Speaker 1: especially when you lose them at an early age.
- 1:14:15Speaker 3: You're a part of this club where you only are able.
- 1:14:18Speaker 1: To understand that it is by far the worst pain
- 1:14:22Speaker 1: you could go through because that's your mother. And one
- 1:14:26Speaker 1: thing I just want to share with you is everyone's
- 1:14:30Speaker 1: grief looks differently, and you take all the time you need.
- 1:14:35Speaker 1: I have nine siblings. We all greeed very differently. We've
- 1:14:40Speaker 1: lost our mother, and all ten of us were mother
- 1:14:42Speaker 1: girls or mother boys.
- 1:14:44Speaker 3: Like our mother was our world.
- 1:14:46Speaker 1: And what I will say to you that helps me.
- 1:14:51Speaker 1: My mother's been passed for like I think, like five years,
- 1:14:53Speaker 1: five six years. I speak to her every single day,
- 1:14:57Speaker 1: and I talked to her and and she speaks to me,
- 1:15:02Speaker 1: and that helps me here to where the only things
- 1:15:07Speaker 1: missing is the physicality of this woman.
- 1:15:12Speaker 3: But my mother is right here now, She's around.
- 1:15:15Speaker 1: And I talked to her in the car, me and
- 1:15:17Speaker 1: her gossip because my mother would be like girl any.
- 1:15:22Speaker 3: That was our relationship.
- 1:15:24Speaker 1: So I still continue to speak to my mom that way,
- 1:15:28Speaker 1: like girl, I'm about to go to Atlanta interview an ugly.
- 1:15:31Speaker 3: Child, you know.
- 1:15:32Speaker 1: So my advice to you is your mother's physical form
- 1:15:37Speaker 1: may not be here in the present, but I want
- 1:15:40Speaker 1: you to know that her spirit live on forever, and
- 1:15:43Speaker 1: you have gained a permanent guardian angel who.
- 1:15:48Speaker 9: Is going to watch over you and usher you into
- 1:15:52Speaker 9: greatness and protect you because God has gained a friend.
- 1:16:01Speaker 1: God has gained a friend, so he's able to assign
- 1:16:04Speaker 1: your mother to do things for you on earth and.
- 1:16:08Speaker 3: She has you so know that. I want to know that. Okay, Okay, no,
- 1:16:13Speaker 3: I love you.
- 1:16:14Speaker 1: Tell your your daughter's good to your daughter's mine, tell
- 1:16:17Speaker 1: her she gets married again.
- 1:16:18Speaker 3: We need to let's get advanced.
- 1:16:21Speaker 1: Notice daughter, honey, but I want you to know you
- 1:16:25Speaker 1: officially are the m v P of the year and
- 1:16:29Speaker 1: you and and I mean this, you are going to
- 1:16:32Speaker 1: be the person from this day moving forward that I
- 1:16:36Speaker 1: will tell my new reality starts to join my shows.
- 1:16:40Speaker 3: Study Angela Oakly because she did it.
- 1:16:42Speaker 2: You just want to keep me crying, know that.
- 1:16:45Speaker 1: Okay, all right, congratulations, my love.
- 1:16:51Speaker 3: Okay, you're so welcome. You're welcome. Good job, good job.
- 1:17:01Speaker 4: I didn't ever called the reunion like a.
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