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The January 6th Storming of Capitol Hill, USA · UK Column Radio

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Speaker 1: Good afternoon to all of our UK column viewers and listeners.
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Speaker 1: Welcome to a really interesting interview I've got with me today,
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Speaker 1: Director Chris Burgard, who's going to be talking to me
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Speaker 1: about a number of his productions, but the key ones
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Speaker 1: that the key one that we're interested in is around
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Speaker 1: Capitol Hill riots. So we're going back to the sixth
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Speaker 1: of January twenty twenty one, and I am very interested
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Speaker 1: in what's taken place here because, as our regular viewers
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Speaker 1: will know, over the last few months, I've been able
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Speaker 1: to interview three CIA professionals. So I've talked to both
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Speaker 1: field agents, one of whom J Michael Waller, I did
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Speaker 1: three interviews with. But I've also talked to Michael J. Sweeney,
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Speaker 1: who's who was head of CIA litigation at one point
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Speaker 1: and he principally was talking about the differences between the
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Speaker 1: security services investigations to Donald Trump and Biden. And the
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Speaker 1: other one was Pedro Israel Horter, who was a CIA
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Speaker 1: field operative who discovered problems inside the CIA. We could
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Speaker 1: say serious lack of professionalism, but that was putting people's
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Speaker 1: lives at risk and when he whistle blew those particular incidents,
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Speaker 1: he was eventually forced out of the CIA. So that's
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Speaker 1: my little background. And I'm going to say, Chris, welcome
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Speaker 1: to UK colum and thank you very much for agreeing
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Speaker 1: to join me today.
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Speaker 2: Well, thank you for having me. It's an honor.
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Speaker 1: Okay, now if I may, and I just have to
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Speaker 1: check some of the paper in front of me, because
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Speaker 1: you are a award winning filmmaker, You've done some very
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Speaker 1: interesting work. You made your nineteen eighty six Hollywood debut
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Speaker 1: as Matthew Broderick's dance double in Ferris Bueller's Day Off,
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Speaker 1: and if I remember correctly, that's about a college student
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Speaker 1: and he goes on a day off adventure around Chicago.
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Speaker 1: But you've also done things such as the Tour of Duty,
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Speaker 1: Death County and The River of Broken Dreams. And then
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Speaker 1: you've had a particular interest around the events that have
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Speaker 1: taken place in Capitol Hill. So please tell us a
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Speaker 1: bit more about yourself and how you got into filmmaking.
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Speaker 2: I was born and raised in the Midwest, in Wisconsin,
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Speaker 2: y'all in the UK there a bit familiar with it,
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Speaker 2: but that was horse country, farm country. My dad was
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Speaker 2: a law enforcement he's a veteran. Went out to Hollywood
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Speaker 2: to be in the movie business, acted in movies, started writing,
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Speaker 2: and then in two thousand and five, I'd made my
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Speaker 2: first documentary about the Southern border, and I went out
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Speaker 2: to southern border and embedded with people on the border,
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Speaker 2: rancher's law enforcement, and we made the movie called Border,
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Speaker 2: which screened for Congress in two thousand and seven. It
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Speaker 2: was an important grassroots tool and stopping the Bush amnesty
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Speaker 2: immigration movement that he was trying to do in two
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Speaker 2: thousand and seven, and that got me blacklisted in Hollywood.
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Speaker 2: People I knew for twenty years wouldn't talk to me,
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Speaker 2: wouldn't return phone calls, didn't see the movie. But it
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Speaker 2: was just so propaganda is that anybody that was telling
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Speaker 2: the truth is attacked, and that put me on a
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Speaker 2: whole other path just doing movies that tell the truth.
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Speaker 2: So I've been blessed to be in Central America when
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Speaker 2: they tried to take over a government down there twenty
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Speaker 2: years on and off the border, and I've had three
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Speaker 2: movies play for Congress, Border Death County in the Room,
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Speaker 2: were Broken Dreams, and our latest film, The War and Truth,
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Speaker 2: which is Warren Truth is the second film we made
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Speaker 2: about January sixth I was there in January sixth with
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Speaker 2: my family and with my partner and good friend Nick Cercy.
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Speaker 2: As the events unrolled that day, it was evident to
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Speaker 2: me I was having flashbacks stage I moved back to
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Speaker 2: being in Hondurs in Central America when they were trying
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Speaker 2: to overthrow the government down there. And we didn't know
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Speaker 2: we were going to make a movie about January six
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Speaker 2: until we saw the false narrative that was coming out.
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Speaker 2: So we just documented what happened that day, and that
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Speaker 2: was a movie called Capital Punishment. Everything they told you
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Speaker 2: about j six was a lie. And because I made
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Speaker 2: that movie, I was in the middle of making another
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Speaker 2: movie with our friend of mine, Tom Homan, who's now
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Speaker 2: the borders are the United States. I had just gotten
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Speaker 2: back from the border and it was the day before
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Speaker 2: they hit mar A Lago. FBI came to my ranch
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Speaker 2: and I found out I was being investigated as a
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Speaker 2: terrorist threat to the United States America for making Capital Punishment.
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Speaker 2: So that was pretty tense for my family and I
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Speaker 2: for a while. And after the attorney's got us on
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Speaker 2: a quieter side of all that, my partner Nick says, well,
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Speaker 2: if they're doing this to you, what else are they
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Speaker 2: doing to everyone else out there from January sixth. So
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Speaker 2: instead of sitting back and waiting for the FBI to
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Speaker 2: come back to our ranch, we decided to make another movie,
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Speaker 2: which was The War and Truth. And The War and
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Speaker 2: Truth will simply blow your mind because when you see
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Speaker 2: what happened in January sixth, when you see how it
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Speaker 2: was a psychological operation run with military precision from the
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Speaker 2: highest levels of our government, it just rocks your sense
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Speaker 2: of reality.
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Speaker 1: Okay, thank you very much for that. Well, should we
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Speaker 1: just play the trailer for the War on Terror and
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Speaker 1: then we'll get you to comments a little bit.
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Speaker 2: I didn't want to make it. You know what you
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Speaker 2: do after the FBI investigates you for making a movie
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Speaker 2: about January.
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Speaker 3: Sixth, you make another one.
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Speaker 2: With investigations related to child sex trafficking. Have you reassigned
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Speaker 2: any of these agents?
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Speaker 4: I don't believe we have reassigned people away from child exploitations.
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Speaker 3: Why So, to be clear, the FBI moved you off
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Speaker 3: a pedophile task force.
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Speaker 2: To a January sixth taskbars.
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Speaker 4: We have not to date seen any evidence of anarchist
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Speaker 4: file and extremists or or people subscribing to Antifah in
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Speaker 4: connection with the sixth Why Tipapa, If you are asking
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Speaker 4: whether the violence at the Capitol on January sixth was
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Speaker 4: part of some operation orchestrated by FBI sources and or agents,
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Speaker 4: the answer is emphatically no, no, Why verse five.
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Speaker 1: People Okay that want to come forward to say that
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Speaker 1: we have facial recognition of all the federal agents.
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Speaker 2: One hundred officers were assaulted on that day. Five officers died.
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Speaker 4: That was a lie.
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Speaker 2: Killed by a blow to the head with a fire extinguisher.
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Speaker 3: Why died after being hit in the head with a
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Speaker 3: fire extinguisher.
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Speaker 4: Why they fixate on the desks that are not attributed
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Speaker 4: to January sixth, while completely ignoring what these really horrific
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Speaker 4: deaths afore Trump supporters that afternoon.
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Speaker 3: The scariest thing about this movie is when you show
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Speaker 3: people the truth, they believe it and they come together
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Speaker 3: as Americans, we unite. If this movie wasn't so dangerous
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Speaker 3: to the ball, if this movie wasn't so dangerous to the
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Speaker 3: chief State, they wouldn't be trying so hard to censor it.
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Speaker 2: Don't be afraid. People go see this movie.
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Speaker 4: They can help me.
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Speaker 2: Yes, sir, y'all open today not today? We know Director Ray, No,
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Speaker 2: he's not. Can I leave him a message? Well, I
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Speaker 2: can't give him a message. You got to call to
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Speaker 2: the you know, we called him and left a message.
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Speaker 2: We did that for a couple of months.
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Speaker 3: Could you ask him if he's still investigating me for
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Speaker 3: making the last movie.
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Speaker 2: I'll see when we do that.
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Speaker 3: I appreciate that.
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Speaker 2: That's truly disappointing. You just say the same lies to
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Speaker 2: us that he said to Congress.
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Speaker 1: So, Chris, you made this movie. How did you get
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Speaker 1: people to engage with it? If you were already under
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Speaker 1: pressure with what you produced previously? How did you get
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Speaker 1: people to engage with making another movie lifting stones around
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Speaker 1: what took place in Capitol Hill.
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Speaker 2: We were blessed because when Capital Punishment was such a
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Speaker 2: pillar of truth that we had been the folks that
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Speaker 2: invested in that movie. You originally had talked to us
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Speaker 2: about doing a trailer, and you know, to do it.
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Speaker 2: I'm sorry to do a sequel, do a follow up
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Speaker 2: for the movie, but I just didn't. I didn't know
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Speaker 2: that it was necessary because I thought that there was
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Speaker 2: enough independent people picking up to do a really good
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Speaker 2: job on that to tell the rest of the story.
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Speaker 2: But God's got a funny sense of humor. You know,
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Speaker 2: when he wants to do something, he whispers in your ear.
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Speaker 2: If you don't listen to him, he taps you on
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Speaker 2: the shoulder because still don't listen to him, he punches
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Speaker 2: you in the gut. My gut punched from God? Was
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Speaker 2: the FBI investigating me? Is a terrorist threat? You? Sixty
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Speaker 2: two year old filmmaker award winning come for a law
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Speaker 2: enforcement family, work with law enforcement up and down the
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Speaker 2: border for twenty years. My dad actually graduated for on
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Speaker 2: hundred ninth session of the FBI Academy. And now I'm
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Speaker 2: a threat making a movie. That's That's not the way
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Speaker 2: America is supposed to work. So the war on truth,
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Speaker 2: you know, as you saw Nick and I in that
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Speaker 2: that promo there standing in front of the Capitol Building,
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Speaker 2: you know, it's just lie after lie after lie, and
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Speaker 2: big doors open and close on small hinges. And the
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Speaker 2: hinge that makes everything fall apart when it comes to
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Speaker 2: the Deep State and in the United States of America
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Speaker 2: is January sixth, Because when you show people the truth
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Speaker 2: about January six it changes them. It drops the scales
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Speaker 2: from their eyes and they they are like, oh my gosh,
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Speaker 2: they've been lying to me about this for four years?
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Speaker 2: What else have I been lied to about? And it
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Speaker 2: sets them out a path to search out knowledge and
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Speaker 2: to seek the truth. And that's a big deal. And
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Speaker 2: have that kind of reawakening in America is a big deal.
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Speaker 2: And that's why long answer to your short question, that's
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Speaker 2: why The War and Truth was the most censored movie
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Speaker 2: of twenty twenty four in America. We had originally when
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Speaker 2: we screened the film, we had a bunch of affiliates
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Speaker 2: other influencers that couldn't wait to get this film out.
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Speaker 2: But the pushback was hard and the censorship was real.
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Speaker 2: There's a good marine J D. Rivera, who's in the film.
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Speaker 2: And the movie came out, he reached out to one
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Speaker 2: hundred and ten thousand TikTok followers and said, hey, this
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Speaker 2: is a great movie, y'all should go see this. He
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Speaker 2: was off TikTok within hours, lost all those followers. There
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Speaker 2: is a pastor on Facebook one point three million followers
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Speaker 2: and he said this should be required viewing the schools
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Speaker 2: across America. His entire count one point three million followers
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Speaker 2: was gone the next day. That's the kind of censorship
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Speaker 2: we were facing under the Biden administration, and that's not
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Speaker 2: the way the United States America is supposed to work.
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Speaker 1: But censorship happening in America, Chris, But it's certainly happening
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Speaker 1: here as well. And I know that some of the
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Speaker 1: Trump administration have actually commented on how onerous they see
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Speaker 1: censorship in the United Kingdom. We could have a separate
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Speaker 1: conversation about this, but I just want to echo it
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Speaker 1: back to you. If you were seeing censorship in the USA,
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Speaker 1: we're certainly seeing it here. And the UK Column, as
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Speaker 1: a bona fide media organization, is still banned on YouTube
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Speaker 1: for accurate information we put out during the COVID lockdown period.
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Speaker 1: So we live in interesting times. But for a UK
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Speaker 1: Column audience, probably most people have only seen reporting on
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Speaker 1: the Capitol Hill incident via the mainstream media. Of course,
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Speaker 1: the BBC is always the powerful media channel in UK.
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Speaker 1: Tell us from the American side, what actually took place?
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Speaker 1: In simple terms, and what were the lies that you
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Speaker 1: were so keen to expose?
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Speaker 2: For those of y'all that that court at January sixth,
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Speaker 2: From the media standpoint, it has probably seemed like a whole
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Speaker 2: lot of violence, and it was in certain points. But
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Speaker 2: to see the bigger picture. What you actually had was
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Speaker 2: a rally, a First Amendment protest that started people with
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Speaker 2: going to mister Trump's rally at the Ellipse, which is
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Speaker 2: at the back of the White House, and then marching
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Speaker 2: about a mile up the Capitol Building. And there was
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Speaker 2: between one and two million people there. It was huge.
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Speaker 2: The mainstream media doesn't show you how large the crowds were.
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Speaker 2: And you literally had five six out of almost over
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Speaker 2: a million to maybe two million people praying and singing
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Speaker 2: and getting along happy down along by the Washington Monument
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Speaker 2: and the Ellipse before January, before the events of January
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Speaker 2: sixth happened. Now people need to understand and this is
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Speaker 2: a setup. How this was a setup is the first
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Speaker 2: breaches that were happening with Ray Epps and those people
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Speaker 2: on the sidewalk with the and the bicycle racks. President
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Speaker 2: Trump was still speaking, I mean President Trump was still speaking. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: two million people are sitting there and yet all of
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Speaker 2: a sudden stuff starting to happen up to the Capitol Building.
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Speaker 2: And also you had the top journalists and White House photographers,
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Speaker 2: they weren't most of them weren't down with the Ellipse
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Speaker 2: with Trump. They were already prepositioned up at the Capitol Building,
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Speaker 2: which is very strange. So after the President got done speaking,
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Speaker 2: he said, everybody would if they could march peacefully to
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Speaker 2: the Capitol Building and just let our voices be heard.
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Speaker 2: That those words have been edited out of context and
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Speaker 2: runs as barbatim scripture on mainstream news. They edited together
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Speaker 2: to make it seem like he was calling people to
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Speaker 2: go do violence, and he wasn't. And as you'll see
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Speaker 2: in our first movie to Capital Punishment, when you see
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Speaker 2: the unedited version of what presidents said, you're like, how
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Speaker 2: could news media put this on? This is a lot,
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Speaker 2: This is propaganda, And that's your clue that you're in
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Speaker 2: a psio. That's your clue that this is an information war.
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Speaker 2: Knowledge is power and America right now is in the
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Speaker 2: greatest information war that we've ever seen. And January sixth
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Speaker 2: was a big battlefield on that. So as everybody moves up,
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Speaker 2: you have this column of people moving up to the
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Speaker 2: Capitol Building. And you have to understand, for the folks
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Speaker 2: in the UK, in the United States of America, you can
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Speaker 2: walk on the grass of the Capitol, you can go
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Speaker 2: up and down the steps, you can walk into the
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Speaker 2: Capitol Building. You just have to pass through security if
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Speaker 2: you want to go talk to one of the representatives.
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Speaker 2: That's how America is. I've been filming for over twenty
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Speaker 2: years in Washington, d C. The restricted area that they're
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Speaker 2: talking about now in the Capitol grounds was never restricted before.
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Speaker 2: They had put up tape that said, you know, restricted area.
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Speaker 2: But by the time the bulk of these folks have
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Speaker 2: gotten up there, those were all gone. And if you
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Speaker 2: look at the film and the footage, you can see
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Speaker 2: that these weren't Trump supporters that were pulling the tape down.
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Speaker 2: They were operators. Because they're pulling this tape down and
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Speaker 2: there's police there doing absolutely nothing about it. January sixth
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Speaker 2: was a setup. And the if do y'all ever watch
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Speaker 2: westerns in the UK, you ever see like stampedes and
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Speaker 2: cowboys and.
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Speaker 1: That sort of stuff, I think most people will have
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Speaker 1: Well I certainly have, yes.
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Speaker 2: Okay, so if you understand how a stampede works. I
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Speaker 2: live in Texas. We were cows. You've got a big
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Speaker 2: herd of cattle and you want them to go through
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Speaker 2: this little tiny gate over here. I don't need to
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Speaker 2: go tell every single cow, hey, go up here and
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Speaker 2: turn left. I just need to get the lead steer,
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Speaker 2: and if I can push the lead steer to where
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Speaker 2: I want to go, the rest of the crowd is
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Speaker 2: going to follow. That's what happened on January sixth. You
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Speaker 2: had professional infiltrators in there. And it wasn't just Antifa
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Speaker 2: and BLM type vote they were their addresses, MAGA supporters,
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Speaker 2: but you also had professional operators infiltrated into the crowd
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Speaker 2: to steer this crowd, and things were done that will
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Speaker 2: touch that that that got people to do things they
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Speaker 2: didn't think would happen. There were people in the crowd
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Speaker 2: of bullhorns and inciting people of violence, inciting to charge
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Speaker 2: the capitol. These people were planted. There were people that
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Speaker 2: were that were literally directing and pushing people towards the
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Speaker 2: steps and doing that. We know that these people were
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Speaker 2: also operatives. You know. The FBI says that there was
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Speaker 2: They finally came out after three years and said they
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Speaker 2: had twenty three assets in the crowd that day. I'll
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Speaker 2: tell you it was a lot more than twenty three.
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Speaker 2: There were so many. There were so many intelligence assets
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Speaker 2: in the crowd that day that FBI payroll lost track
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Speaker 2: of them. All this was a setup, and it wasn't
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Speaker 2: just the FBI. There were other agencies involved, and we
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Speaker 2: need a real investigation, some with a higher pay grade
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Speaker 2: than mine, to get to the bottom of it. But
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Speaker 2: as you have Mike Waller who was a guest on
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Speaker 2: your show, Michael was there that day. Michael has been
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Speaker 2: in DC for decades. He knew stuff was popping off.
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Speaker 2: That wasn't right before the event ever happened because you
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Speaker 2: had a joint session of Congress, but the security wasn't there.
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Speaker 2: You didn't have the rows, the police that you'd usually have,
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Speaker 2: you didn't have the high barricades. They had less than
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Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty Capitol Police Hill officers Capitol Hill
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Speaker 2: Police officers for the entire piece of property, and they
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Speaker 2: only had bike wrecks. That was it. This was a setup.
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Speaker 2: As we were walking from the ellipse up to the
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Speaker 2: Capitol building, the massive people, I'm looking around and I
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Speaker 2: say to my wife, I got a bad feeling, and
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Speaker 2: she goes, what do you mean. I said, look around
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Speaker 2: you one there's no police around us, and there's no
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Speaker 2: there's no news cruise. Usually in events like this and protests,
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Speaker 2: there's television crews. CNN MSNBC, Fox, They're all over the place,
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Speaker 2: you're tripping over them. There was none of them on
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Speaker 2: the walk up to the Capitol. So I looked at
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Speaker 2: my wife and I said, I'm having flashbacks to Honduras.
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Speaker 2: I got a bad feeling because the images you see
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Speaker 2: of multitudes of people praying, people of all different color,
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Speaker 2: skin types, singing patriotic songs. They're not filming that, because
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Speaker 2: that tells me that there's gonna the story they want
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Speaker 2: to tell is going to be happening at the end
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Speaker 2: of this march. And I just got a bad feeling.
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Speaker 2: Just as I told my wife that, my partner Nick
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Speaker 2: calls me from the Capitol building and he said, I
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Speaker 2: just watched the Capitol police move the bike racks and
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Speaker 2: they're waving people into the Capitol building. And I turned
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Speaker 2: to my wife and I said, someone's going to die today,
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Speaker 2: because that was my experience in Honduras. And you know,
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Speaker 2: two and a half hours later, Ashley Babbitt was dead,
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Speaker 2: Kevin Greeson was dead, Benjamin Phillips was dead, Roseanne Boylan
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Speaker 2: was dead. And here's then this leads me to if
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Speaker 2: you haven't seen the War and Truth, and I highly
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Speaker 2: recommend you all go see this film. You can tell
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Speaker 2: when it's in operation by the cover up. And there
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Speaker 2: was a fella that his name was Joseph Gerbels, and
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Speaker 2: he said, if you make the lie big enough and
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Speaker 2: tell it oft enough, it becomes truth to the state.
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Speaker 2: Joseph Geerbels worked for a fellow named Adolf Hitler. And
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Speaker 2: this is what happens on January sixth. And here's one
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Speaker 2: thing you can look at the Biden administration at the
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Speaker 2: highest levels FBI, Partner of Justice, in the mainstream media
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Speaker 2: for three and a half years, all ran with the
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Speaker 2: mantra that on January sixth, five law enforcement officers died.
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Speaker 2: Five law enforcement officers died in January sixth. That is
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Speaker 2: a lie. Officer Brian sid Nick died the early morning
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Speaker 2: hours of January seventh of natural causes. He did not
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Speaker 2: have his head legend to death by MAGA supporters like
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Speaker 2: the Biden administration pushed. The other four police officers died
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Speaker 2: died weeks and months later from suicides suicide attempts weeks
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Speaker 2: and months later, which were credited to January sixth day deaths.
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Speaker 2: That's just a lie. Now, what is this cover up
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Speaker 2: that covers up who really did die that day. Most
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Speaker 2: people know of Ashley Babbitt, who was shot by Lieutenant Bird,
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Speaker 2: but also Roseanne Boiling who was crushed and beaten to
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Speaker 2: death on the steps of the Capitol. And then there's
21:25
Speaker 2: Kevin Greeson Benjamin Phillips. They died of heart attacks, but
21:29
Speaker 2: one of them was hit in the chest, just standing
21:31
Speaker 2: there on the other side of the crowd, and he's
21:33
Speaker 2: hitting the chest with a flashbang, and you'll see the
21:36
Speaker 2: footage and the war on truth. The flash bang blows up,
21:40
Speaker 2: burns the guy's face next to him. He turns and screams.
21:43
Speaker 2: This guy goes down, his heart stops and he dies,
21:46
Speaker 2: and you see him working out and trying to do CPR,
21:48
Speaker 2: but they never bring him back. These four deaths are
21:51
Speaker 2: never talked about and have been covered up by pushing
21:54
Speaker 2: this other lie that you make big enough, you tell
21:57
Speaker 2: it off enough, it becomes truth to the state. That's
22:00
Speaker 2: how you know that you're in a psychological operation in
22:03
Speaker 2: the middle of an information war.
22:05
Speaker 1: Chris, if I can respond to that and say, your
22:10
Speaker 1: narrative is just so interesting, particularly so for me because
22:15
Speaker 1: I remember the interviews with Jane Michael Waller so well
22:19
Speaker 1: and In the first interview, he was talking about being
22:23
Speaker 1: there at the event, and then he said, I just
22:26
Speaker 1: started to see things which weren't right. From my experience
22:29
Speaker 1: and eas and the experienced CIA field operations man or
22:33
Speaker 1: operations man. He talked about seeing things that weren't right,
22:39
Speaker 1: and I remember him saying to me that he just
22:42
Speaker 1: began to notice these people who did not fit in
22:45
Speaker 1: with the crowd. They were dressed differently, and I'm very
22:51
Speaker 1: sure he said, and something which attracted my attention was
22:54
Speaker 1: that they hadn't got the spirit of the crowd. Whereas
22:57
Speaker 1: most of the crowd were very joe, they were in
23:00
Speaker 1: a very good mood. These were individuals who he said,
23:04
Speaker 1: you could see had got a sense of coordination about them,
23:08
Speaker 1: but they didn't look like the other individuals. So you're
23:11
Speaker 1: giving a personal opinion on what you saw there. J
23:16
Speaker 1: Michael Waller, as a trained CIA man, also talking about this.
23:21
Speaker 1: But your particular focus is on, if I've got this right,
23:25
Speaker 1: is on FBI operatives there as opposed to other police
23:30
Speaker 1: operatives or deepest state security people. It was the FBI
23:36
Speaker 1: that had the bulk of the presence on the ground.
23:40
Speaker 2: We don't know if it was we know the FABI
23:42
Speaker 2: had a very immense had had a large presence there,
23:45
Speaker 2: but we don't know if it was the biggest because
23:46
Speaker 2: we don't know the other organizations there. There is also
23:51
Speaker 2: DEA was there that day atf was there that day.
23:56
Speaker 2: My first hand knowledge, and what you'll see in the
23:58
Speaker 2: movie is you'll see people changing it out of Antifa
24:02
Speaker 2: clothes into Trump clothes. These same people just a few
24:07
Speaker 2: minutes later are trying to get my wife and I
24:09
Speaker 2: and my daughter to attack the Capitol police to do violence.
24:12
Speaker 2: We filmed them. We knew they were infiltrators, we knew
24:15
Speaker 2: they were imposts. We called them out and when they did,
24:18
Speaker 2: they ran away. And as they run away, you can
24:21
Speaker 2: see their handler going with them with the earpiece in
24:24
Speaker 2: his ear and he's this is how you knew these
24:27
Speaker 2: guys what Mike's talking about. Michael's talking about the guy
24:30
Speaker 2: people you saw off the Capitol that didn't fit in.
24:32
Speaker 2: And you see people with sunglasses, with scarfs around their necks,
24:37
Speaker 2: their heads pulled down, earpieces in their ear. That's not
24:40
Speaker 2: your average Trump supporter. You know, when you were at
24:42
Speaker 2: the Washington Monument or down by the Eclipse or where
24:46
Speaker 2: Trump lips, where Trump was speaking, nobody was wearing masks.
24:49
Speaker 2: Nobody's wearing masks. This is America. The lockdown, well, the
24:52
Speaker 2: people who went there one of the reasons everybody was
24:53
Speaker 2: so happy. It was the first time people had gotten
24:56
Speaker 2: together and to see people and to meet people, and
24:58
Speaker 2: no masks. But by the if you look at most
25:01
Speaker 2: of the violence and the people that were the players
25:03
Speaker 2: in the breach of the Capitol, they all either had
25:07
Speaker 2: masks on or they even had military gear or gas masks.
25:10
Speaker 2: These were not Trump supporters. These are infiltrators. And that's
25:13
Speaker 2: what Michael's talking about. So after we filmed these these
25:17
Speaker 2: Antifa type people pretending changing clothes, clothes, trying to get
25:23
Speaker 2: us to do violence and pretending to be Trump supporters,
25:26
Speaker 2: I ran into FBI and it's on the ground that day,
25:29
Speaker 2: and I said, Hey, you've got bad guys over here
25:31
Speaker 2: trying to get us attack the capital police. You want
25:33
Speaker 2: to know who they are? No, do you want me
25:36
Speaker 2: to give you the video?
25:37
Speaker 1: No?
25:37
Speaker 2: Do you want me at least give you a picture
25:39
Speaker 2: or take a statement. No, we're good. So at the
25:42
Speaker 2: time I just thought, Okay, well they must have this
25:44
Speaker 2: all handled, not a big deal. But then a few
25:46
Speaker 2: weeks later, when you see Christopher Ray, the head of
25:49
Speaker 2: our FBI, testify to Congress and say that he saw
25:53
Speaker 2: no evidence that there were Antifa or BLM or anarchist
25:56
Speaker 2: type people there that day contributing to the violence. That
25:59
Speaker 2: makes him the most misinformed director of the FBI, or
26:03
Speaker 2: he's lying. And if you're lying at that part, then
26:07
Speaker 2: that means you're either part of the operation or part
26:09
Speaker 2: of the cover up, or both. Because we saw ANTIFA
26:15
Speaker 2: BLM type operatives that day doing violence, we filmed them,
26:20
Speaker 2: they filmed themselves, as in the case of John Sullivan,
26:23
Speaker 2: who's on film bragging about how he was part of
26:27
Speaker 2: planning this operation. It just goes to give pause to say,
26:35
Speaker 2: how far up does this cover up go? And it
26:38
Speaker 2: goes to the top.
26:40
Speaker 1: This is the key point, isn't it? Because I think
26:44
Speaker 1: any of us, all of us will be very happy
26:46
Speaker 1: to say in our life experiences, we've learned that politicians
26:50
Speaker 1: lie and they cover up. But when we have the
26:55
Speaker 1: state security agencies that are supposed to be there to
26:59
Speaker 1: protect to us, whether those are the agencies in America
27:03
Speaker 1: or the UK for that matter, when those individuals are
27:07
Speaker 1: engaged in the various purposes and subsequently they're covering up
27:12
Speaker 1: what they did, what they took part in. This is
27:16
Speaker 1: really serious because we're effectively talking about a breakdown in
27:20
Speaker 1: the very basic institutions of state. So Capitol Hill, to me,
27:28
Speaker 1: represents something very very serious because, as you say, it
27:34
Speaker 1: was done in plain sights. People died as a result
27:38
Speaker 1: of what took place, and then there's a lie, there's
27:41
Speaker 1: lies and cover ups. So who do you think is
27:45
Speaker 1: driving the agenda?
27:47
Speaker 2: Who do I think is driving the agenda? Who do
27:49
Speaker 2: I think were like the arttics of January sixth?
27:52
Speaker 1: Who are the people that orchestrated what happened, and who
27:56
Speaker 1: are the people that are subsequently covering up. Of course,
27:59
Speaker 1: the next question is why.
28:01
Speaker 2: If you understand what a color revolution is and how
28:04
Speaker 2: cover revolution works to take power, it's usually after a
28:07
Speaker 2: contested election. You have moment on one side, the left
28:11
Speaker 2: moment on the other side. You get them going like
28:13
Speaker 2: it's crazy, You work the two sides against each other,
28:16
Speaker 2: and then you grab power out of all that chaos.
28:19
Speaker 2: That's what January six was about. January sixth, the purpose
28:22
Speaker 2: of the operation on January sixth was at all costs
28:26
Speaker 2: to stop because remember in the United States of America
28:29
Speaker 2: And why we showed up is they were going to
28:31
Speaker 2: debate before they did a tallly. They were going to
28:33
Speaker 2: debate whether or not they should investigate the contested ballots
28:37
Speaker 2: in these swing states, which would have changed the election,
28:40
Speaker 2: would have handed it to Trump. So why you saw
28:43
Speaker 2: two million people out there. We just wanted to have
28:45
Speaker 2: our voices heard. We naively thought that if we just
28:49
Speaker 2: showed up and people in Congress saild know, Hey, there's
28:52
Speaker 2: two million people out there that took the time to
28:54
Speaker 2: come out here because election integrity is important to them.
28:58
Speaker 2: The least we can do is take a ten day
29:00
Speaker 2: pause to investigate this. So on the floor of Congress,
29:05
Speaker 2: as the first state was coming up and had just
29:07
Speaker 2: been voted in to be investigated, the Congress stands up.
29:11
Speaker 2: There's a standing ovation in Congress. Then a flare goes
29:15
Speaker 2: up over the Capitol building and the first breach of
29:17
Speaker 2: the capital happens, and the breach happens, they shut down.
29:21
Speaker 2: They shut down for over three and a half hours,
29:26
Speaker 2: and when they come back, there's no longer any any
29:29
Speaker 2: challenge and any political will to hold these investigations. So
29:35
Speaker 2: that was the main mission of what January six was
29:40
Speaker 2: for it was to stop the investigation into a corrupt election. Now,
29:45
Speaker 2: so you have to ask yourself, well, who benefits for that? Well,
29:47
Speaker 2: who benefits is the people that got into power, people
29:50
Speaker 2: left the bidens, and as well as whatever international partners
29:54
Speaker 2: they may be working with. We know that China was
29:59
Speaker 2: part of corrupting our election. That was in the Navarro Report,
30:04
Speaker 2: the IG report. What we don't know is to what
30:07
Speaker 2: extent did it flip the election? How is it there?
30:09
Speaker 2: And they weren't the only player. These are all things
30:12
Speaker 2: that would have come out if we would have had
30:13
Speaker 2: that investigation in Congress. So then you ask yourself, well,
30:19
Speaker 2: who did this? If you look to twenty fourteen, a
30:22
Speaker 2: lot of this goes back to Ukraine, which is hard
30:25
Speaker 2: for people to understand how Ukraine and January sixth are related,
30:28
Speaker 2: But there were on the local level, on the ground level,
30:31
Speaker 2: we ran into Ukrainians that were there that day. There
30:34
Speaker 2: was Ukrainian there, Sergei Debenon, who was an activist in
30:39
Speaker 2: the twenty fourteen overthrow of the Ukrainian government. How does
30:44
Speaker 2: a guy like that get in the United States of America?
30:47
Speaker 2: How does he get to the Capitol Building on January
30:49
Speaker 2: sixth plus he's taking selfies with a buffalo horned guy
30:53
Speaker 2: that is already prescripted as the leader of the q
30:56
Speaker 2: andom May army. Hey, this is all a prescripted operation.
31:01
Speaker 2: So we saw Ukrainians there on the ground that day.
31:04
Speaker 2: But what you really need to look at, and if
31:06
Speaker 2: there was ever going to be an investigation held at
31:08
Speaker 2: a higher level, possibly a military investigation, I would say,
31:13
Speaker 2: look at who are the players in the Ukraine Revolution
31:16
Speaker 2: of twenty fourteen From our side. You may want to
31:18
Speaker 2: look at Victoria Newland. You may want to look at Normizen,
31:21
Speaker 2: you may want to look at a guy named Eric Shiamoilla.
31:24
Speaker 2: And while you're at it, see if John Brennan had
31:26
Speaker 2: his hand to any of this stuff. That's who I
31:28
Speaker 2: would investigate if I were going forward. The United States
31:34
Speaker 2: has been part of orchestrating color revolutions around the country.
31:37
Speaker 2: I sat around the planet, and now January sixth, we
31:41
Speaker 2: had one happened right here in Washington, DC. That's what
31:46
Speaker 2: that day was. And then the second part of it
31:49
Speaker 2: was not only stop the investigation into the contested votes
31:54
Speaker 2: in the Swing States, but now you've also demonized a
31:59
Speaker 2: whole section in the country, your political opponents and they've
32:02
Speaker 2: now weaponized the United States law enforcement, federal law enforcement,
32:07
Speaker 2: and intelligence services against its own people. January sixth was
32:10
Speaker 2: the day of the federal government. The United States of
32:12
Speaker 2: America attacked its own people. They beat them, they hurt them,
32:17
Speaker 2: some died, and they put them in prison, and a
32:20
Speaker 2: lot of them were put in prison to shut them up.
32:23
Speaker 2: That's what January sixth was. Now you've demonized half your people.
32:26
Speaker 2: What did Hitler do did how the Germans stand by
32:29
Speaker 2: while while trainloads of their countrymen were being carried after
32:32
Speaker 2: the deaths of the camps. How does that happen? It
32:34
Speaker 2: happens because you dehumanize the other a certain specific part
32:39
Speaker 2: of your population. Well, that's what was happening in the
32:41
Speaker 2: United States of America. Trump supporters went from being deplorables
32:45
Speaker 2: to bloody insurrectionists. Well, if somebody's a bloody insurrectionists and
32:50
Speaker 2: you believe that they attacked your capital and they tried
32:52
Speaker 2: to take down your government, then if they're sitting in
32:54
Speaker 2: prison for up to two years waiting for trial, you're
32:58
Speaker 2: not going to stick up for them because they're bloody insurrectionists.
33:01
Speaker 2: They've now labeled the whole action of political opponents as
33:06
Speaker 2: the enemy. And in this case in the United States,
33:12
Speaker 2: we believe our rights come from God. They don't come
33:15
Speaker 2: from the government. They don't come from bureaucrats or elected officials.
33:19
Speaker 2: They come from God. Those are enshrined in our constitution.
33:23
Speaker 2: So if you're going to fundamentally transform the United States
33:27
Speaker 2: of America, like Barack Obama said, you have to start
33:31
Speaker 2: with and you have to target the people that believe
33:33
Speaker 2: their rights come from God, which is the Christians and
33:37
Speaker 2: the strong Conservatives. And that's who you saw getting hit
33:41
Speaker 2: in the aftermath of January sixth. In the you see
33:45
Speaker 2: people just for people never even went into the Capitol
33:48
Speaker 2: building being charged with felonies and facing time in the
33:52
Speaker 2: federal prison for misdemeanors. That's never happened in the history
33:55
Speaker 2: of the United States of America before. This is a
33:58
Speaker 2: weaponization of federal law enforce worshmen to take down any
34:03
Speaker 2: political opposition. And that's something that you can't have that
34:08
Speaker 2: in the free public. You just can't. It's not who
34:10
Speaker 2: we are. And I don't know in England for UK
34:14
Speaker 2: forgive me, Brian, but I don't know if you all
34:17
Speaker 2: have a right to speedy trial in the United States
34:19
Speaker 2: of America. In our Bill of Rights, you have a
34:21
Speaker 2: right to a speedy trial. That means seventy days or less.
34:25
Speaker 2: When it came to January sixth, you had people in
34:28
Speaker 2: prison for over two years, federal prison for two years
34:32
Speaker 2: waiting for trial. And a lot of these people, most
34:38
Speaker 2: all of them are people of faith, Christians, and a
34:41
Speaker 2: lot of them were ex military, some special forces. And
34:45
Speaker 2: you wonder, why are there so many military guys in prison,
34:50
Speaker 2: why are they looking at them as a threat. Well,
34:53
Speaker 2: back under Barack Obama, there was a woman named Janet
34:57
Speaker 2: Depolitano who is the Director Homeland Security, and they put
35:02
Speaker 2: out these fusion reports in the United States. Fusion reports
35:05
Speaker 2: are white papers that they use for strategies to dovetail
35:09
Speaker 2: federal law enforcement with state and local law enforcement. And
35:13
Speaker 2: under Obama and Janet Neapolitano, they put out that the
35:16
Speaker 2: three most dangerous security threats to the United States of America.
35:20
Speaker 2: And this is the time we were fighting al Qaida
35:22
Speaker 2: and ISIS and the terrorists and threats like that. They
35:25
Speaker 2: said that the three most dangerous threats to the security
35:28
Speaker 2: the United States of America were pro border security enthusiasts.
35:33
Speaker 2: People wanted a secure border, Christian pro lifers, people were
35:37
Speaker 2: against abortion, and the number one threat was returning veterans.
35:41
Speaker 2: And at the time when that came out, it didn't
35:43
Speaker 2: make sense to me. I was like, Okay, I know
35:45
Speaker 2: guys are coming back with PTSD, but they're getting treatment.
35:48
Speaker 2: This isn't how can this be a bigger threat than
35:50
Speaker 2: ISIS or al Qaeda. But fast forward to January sixth
35:55
Speaker 2: and which you saw happen. That's who they were targeting,
36:00
Speaker 2: and we're interviewing the first round of people for the
36:02
Speaker 2: War and Truth. The people are sitting in prison over
36:04
Speaker 2: two years waiting for trial. They're veterans, they're Christian pro lifers,
36:09
Speaker 2: and they're pro border securities security enthusiasts. That's a weaponization
36:17
Speaker 2: of the system against their own people, and that's what
36:20
Speaker 2: we've been dealing with the United States America for the
36:21
Speaker 2: last four years.
36:23
Speaker 1: Thank you for that very very precise and analysis. Chris.
36:29
Speaker 1: What was in my head as you were going through
36:31
Speaker 1: it is and you're talking about they were attacking you.
36:35
Speaker 1: You're talking about elements of the US government and its
36:39
Speaker 1: systems and its agencies. And when I have talked to
36:44
Speaker 1: the CIA, people that I've interviewed, including J. Michael Waller,
36:49
Speaker 1: but also Joseph B. Sweeney was head of litigation for
36:53
Speaker 1: the CIA. Both those two individuals are talking about the
36:59
Speaker 1: break down and in particular the corruption of the very
37:04
Speaker 1: institutions that should be there to protect American society. So
37:10
Speaker 1: the state agencies who have a particular role to defend
37:15
Speaker 1: America but also to know as a nation state, but
37:20
Speaker 1: also people on the streets, they are not only not
37:24
Speaker 1: doing their job, they're acting in a political way which
37:28
Speaker 1: is hostile to the very people they're supposed to protect.
37:32
Speaker 1: So with both those two men, I had a really
37:36
Speaker 1: interesting discussion about how this was taking place.
37:40
Speaker 2: Now.
37:41
Speaker 1: J Michael Waller was very specific. He talks about these
37:47
Speaker 1: state agencies being subverted, that they have been. On one hand,
37:52
Speaker 1: you could say they've been taken over by the woke agender,
37:55
Speaker 1: but I think he would be much stronger. He would
37:58
Speaker 1: be saying that those state agencies, the security agencies, have
38:05
Speaker 1: been subverted, compromised, and broken down from the inside, so
38:11
Speaker 1: they're no longer doing their proper job. They've been subverted
38:15
Speaker 1: into attacking elements of the UK, sorry of the US population.
38:20
Speaker 1: So when we're starting to get into who is actually
38:26
Speaker 1: attacking people in the United states or here in UK
38:31
Speaker 1: when we also experience brutality by the police and the
38:36
Speaker 1: closure of free speech. This is a mixture of political
38:41
Speaker 1: systems tied in with these state security agencies. So I've
38:47
Speaker 1: used the word subversion to me, when I look at
38:50
Speaker 1: the changes that I see happening in the UK and
38:53
Speaker 1: the US, to me, it's very clear that we're looking
38:57
Speaker 1: at subversion. The attack is from within the country. What
39:02
Speaker 1: would your response be to that.
39:05
Speaker 2: I would say that I'm more concerned for the future
39:08
Speaker 2: of my children for bad players within this country than
39:13
Speaker 2: I am being attacked by Russia. That's what I would say.
39:22
Speaker 2: I have friends that you know, Like I said, my
39:24
Speaker 2: dad graduated nine Chester and the FBI academy. I was
39:27
Speaker 2: raised in a law enforcement family. I have friends that
39:29
Speaker 2: are law enforcement, that are FBI agents. And it's not monolithic.
39:36
Speaker 2: There's a civil war inside the FBI. I mean Cash Hotel.
39:39
Speaker 2: It's going to be interesting to see what Cash Hotel
39:41
Speaker 2: comes out with and what they investigate. I intend. I
39:45
Speaker 2: think we're going to see a lot of secret doors
39:47
Speaker 2: thrown wide open. But there was a definite push let's
39:51
Speaker 2: just take the FBI alone. It's other agencies too, But
39:54
Speaker 2: the FBI to go woke and to get away from
39:58
Speaker 2: the Constitution. There's a guy named Derek Kennison whose family
40:02
Speaker 2: was rated. Derek never even went into the Capitol building
40:06
Speaker 2: that day, but when they raided his house, one of
40:09
Speaker 2: the things they did was he had a cart and
40:12
Speaker 2: full of pocket constitutions to hand out speaking engagements. The
40:16
Speaker 2: FBI laid those out and photographed him like it was
40:21
Speaker 2: kilos of cocaine, like it was contraband. Because it's come
40:25
Speaker 2: to the point where they're pushing this They tried pushing
40:28
Speaker 2: this country if you believed in the Constitution that you
40:31
Speaker 2: were some radical right wing person. That's how much our
40:34
Speaker 2: country has shifted. Whereas when I was a kid growing up,
40:37
Speaker 2: you're top you read the Constitution, you read the Declaration
40:42
Speaker 2: of Independence, and you try to be a good citizen. Well,
40:45
Speaker 2: our entire public school system has shifted so far away
40:48
Speaker 2: from that. They don't even teach our kids till they're
40:51
Speaker 2: in years of ten, eleven or twelve American history. You've
40:56
Speaker 2: got people about to graduate from high school in this country.
40:59
Speaker 2: They couldn't tell the difference in the Civil War and
41:01
Speaker 2: the Revolutionary War. So if you don't understand where you
41:07
Speaker 2: come from as a nation. If you don't understand your history,
41:09
Speaker 2: you can't understand where you're going. So the dumbing down
41:13
Speaker 2: of America has really had an effect when it comes
41:16
Speaker 2: to trying to steal power. When you're trying to turn
41:18
Speaker 2: a country from a free republic to a Marxist state,
41:22
Speaker 2: these are the steps you take, and you know it's
41:25
Speaker 2: it's like the Russians told us years ago, let me
41:30
Speaker 2: control your kids and I'll control the country. That's that's
41:35
Speaker 2: what we're seeing.
41:36
Speaker 1: You know, if I mentioned Saul o Lyinski too. You've
41:39
Speaker 1: talked about Barack Obama. But of course in that era,
41:44
Speaker 1: the works of the radical Saul Olynski were being used
41:49
Speaker 1: not only in America but also in the UK. Have
41:53
Speaker 1: you come across his book Rules for Radicals?
41:57
Speaker 2: But if you understand Rules for Radical he explains there
42:02
Speaker 2: they lay out their their format on how to take
42:04
Speaker 2: a country down, a state from the inside out. If
42:07
Speaker 2: you understand, you know now, if you understand. Stalin Saloon
42:12
Speaker 2: used to say, I don't care who votes, I care
42:15
Speaker 2: who counts the votes. There's they've told us what they
42:18
Speaker 2: were going to do in this country, and it's actually
42:21
Speaker 2: been happening. People just haven't paid attention. When people tell
42:26
Speaker 2: you who they are, you have to believe them. When
42:29
Speaker 2: Barack Obama said that he was going to fundamentally transform
42:32
Speaker 2: the United States of America, he wasn't kidding. And you
42:36
Speaker 2: know he said at the time that those people, those
42:39
Speaker 2: people they cling to their bibles and their guns because
42:42
Speaker 2: they're afraid. Well, that's that's going after the basic American,
42:48
Speaker 2: decent American citizen. That's who we are. And this has
42:52
Speaker 2: all been part of a plan to fundamentally change the
42:54
Speaker 2: United States of America. It just now got to a
42:57
Speaker 2: point and a crescendo on January sixth where people saw
43:03
Speaker 2: an operation in action. And now here we are four
43:06
Speaker 2: years later, and people are starting to question the truth
43:09
Speaker 2: and they're starting the truth are starting to come out,
43:10
Speaker 2: and it will I don't know how long it take,
43:12
Speaker 2: but it will eventually. And when the people see how
43:14
Speaker 2: badly they've been lied to, they won't they won't stand
43:18
Speaker 2: for it again.
43:19
Speaker 1: Chris, thank you for that. With the mention there of
43:24
Speaker 1: Saul Olinsky. The thing that I found very interesting many
43:28
Speaker 1: years ago was to see that both the Labor Party
43:32
Speaker 1: and the Conservative Party in UK are admitted in documents
43:37
Speaker 1: that were available to the public that they were using
43:41
Speaker 1: the techniques of Saul Olinsky, and I found this utterly
43:45
Speaker 1: fascinating that the political parties in this country, both sides
43:52
Speaker 1: of the line, were boasting that they were using Saul
43:56
Speaker 1: Olinski policies within the formulation of their own political policies.
44:02
Speaker 1: And of course we've seen exactly the same style of
44:06
Speaker 1: breakdown here in UK that you've experienced in the US.
44:11
Speaker 1: And the other little thing that I remember was when
44:14
Speaker 1: Barack Obama was still in power, there was a newspaper
44:18
Speaker 1: article appeared, I think it was the Daily Telegraph, so
44:21
Speaker 1: one of the big newspapers in UK, and it had
44:25
Speaker 1: a picture of Barack Obama standing alongside Gordon Brown, who
44:30
Speaker 1: was the then Prime Minister of UK, and underneath, in
44:35
Speaker 1: two columns they had phrases that they had both used
44:41
Speaker 1: in speeches. And the point the paper was making that
44:45
Speaker 1: there was an uncanny coincidence between the use of key
44:50
Speaker 1: phrases by Barack Obama and Gordon Brown. And the inference,
44:55
Speaker 1: of course, was that by some strange means, the politic
45:00
Speaker 1: called policy in the States and the UK was being
45:03
Speaker 1: driven in the same direction at the same time. Now
45:07
Speaker 1: I know that's a bit of an anecdotal story, but
45:09
Speaker 1: I assure you the article I'm talking about exists. And
45:13
Speaker 1: I always found this fascinating that we should have Barack
45:17
Speaker 1: Obama the American side of the line talking about a
45:22
Speaker 1: Saulolyinsky policies to break down Western societies, and then we
45:28
Speaker 1: also had Gordon Brown and a Labor Party who were
45:31
Speaker 1: also referring to those policies, and that to me just
45:36
Speaker 1: could not be a coincidence. This had to be a
45:39
Speaker 1: planned agender, and since it was operating in both countries,
45:44
Speaker 1: it had to be. It had to be geopolitical because
45:49
Speaker 1: it was bigger than both It was policy that was
45:52
Speaker 1: bigger than both countries.
45:54
Speaker 2: All right, because they're on the same side, they're both globalists.
45:57
Speaker 2: I mean, look and see how many of these people
45:59
Speaker 2: have come up to you know, you know the World
46:03
Speaker 2: Economic Forum. You know this is this is a movement
46:08
Speaker 2: of people that no longer believe in sovereign nations. This
46:12
Speaker 2: was told to me back in two thousand and five
46:16
Speaker 2: by a congressman in the Capitol building. He said, Look,
46:19
Speaker 2: I go to work every day with people that don't
46:21
Speaker 2: believe in borders. They see transnational corporations as as leaders.
46:28
Speaker 2: They look to the borders as something that just gets
46:34
Speaker 2: in the way. They impede the flow of labor, finance,
46:36
Speaker 2: and goods, and they want the borders gone. So you
46:40
Speaker 2: have globalist folks. Obama is a globalist, Gordon Brown is
46:44
Speaker 2: a globalist. And then on the other side, you have
46:46
Speaker 2: folks like me, or you have folks like Donald Trump
46:48
Speaker 2: that believe in our country. We want to get along
46:51
Speaker 2: with our neighbors, and we want to you know, we
46:53
Speaker 2: love our friends across the globe, but we believe in
46:58
Speaker 2: the United States of America and we believe that you know,
47:01
Speaker 2: you can't help others and be the best if you
47:03
Speaker 2: don't have a strong home, if your family's not safe,
47:06
Speaker 2: and that's what we need to take care of first.
47:09
Speaker 2: So what you see is a war between those that want,
47:12
Speaker 2: you know, a global political society or those that want
47:17
Speaker 2: you know, nation state, sovereign locals, nations. And you're seeing
47:24
Speaker 2: that manifest with the same words from Obama that you
47:28
Speaker 2: see with Gordon Brown, because it's the same script. This
47:32
Speaker 2: is this is all an operation. You're living in a
47:35
Speaker 2: siah and to tell you how bad things were supposed
47:39
Speaker 2: to be. And I'll tell you there's a fellow when
47:42
Speaker 2: you watch the War and Truth movie. His name's Jerik Johnson.
47:46
Speaker 2: He's former lieutenant in the Capitol Hill Police Department. He
47:50
Speaker 2: was in charge of ground forces that day outside on
47:52
Speaker 2: January sixth, and he will tell you that that day,
47:56
Speaker 2: all the people on the ground, the MAGA people and
47:59
Speaker 2: the Capitol Police, they were all set up that day.
48:02
Speaker 2: And what Tarik Johnson did is he did something. He
48:05
Speaker 2: disobeyed a rule on January sixth to change the course
48:08
Speaker 2: of history. He's in the Capitol building, the breach is happening,
48:14
Speaker 2: and he makes He's on the radio for twenty minutes
48:16
Speaker 2: asking his superior yoga out of Pittman for permission to
48:22
Speaker 2: evacuate the Senate chambers and the House floor, to get
48:24
Speaker 2: everybody out of there and the name of safety. For
48:27
Speaker 2: twenty minutes, he doesn't get an answer. Finally he says,
48:32
Speaker 2: I'm making the call myself. We're going to evacuate the Senate.
48:35
Speaker 2: They're going to evacuate the house. Let's do it now.
48:38
Speaker 2: And his team, they believed in him, they followed him,
48:43
Speaker 2: and that's what they did. Why this is important, it's
48:45
Speaker 2: because the rules for deadly engagement for Capitol Police is
48:49
Speaker 2: you can shoot to kill, use deadly force if you're
48:55
Speaker 2: protecting bodies senators, congressmen. But if it's just real estate,
48:59
Speaker 2: you're not allowed to shoot to kill. That's just trespassing
49:02
Speaker 2: and not allowed to do that. So if Lieutenant Johnson
49:07
Speaker 2: would have cleared everybody out of there ten minutes earlier,
49:11
Speaker 2: fifteen minutes earlier, would have changed the rules of engagement,
49:13
Speaker 2: and Ashley Babbitt never would have been shot if he
49:17
Speaker 2: had done it fifteen twenty minutes later or not at all,
49:20
Speaker 2: and all those people that you saw coming into the
49:23
Speaker 2: House and the Senate would have been shot and killed,
49:26
Speaker 2: and you would have had hundreds of dead Americans in
49:28
Speaker 2: the Capitol building with blood running down the floor. That
49:31
Speaker 2: I believe on ten percent was the original plan of
49:37
Speaker 2: what they wanted to happen on January sixth. You would
49:40
Speaker 2: have such a bloody, massive event that the nation would
49:44
Speaker 2: never come back to your freedom after that. Your first
49:46
Speaker 2: Amendment would be gone, your second Amendment would be gone.
49:49
Speaker 2: But because of this one police lieutenant dissobated or he
49:53
Speaker 2: stopped that carnage, He stopped that bloodshed. Then it later
49:56
Speaker 2: turns out that his superior yoga out of Pittman turns
50:00
Speaker 2: out to be the person that held up the intelligent,
50:03
Speaker 2: the chief of police and to the ground forces. It
50:05
Speaker 2: would have kept January sixth from happening. The intelligence reports
50:09
Speaker 2: that they had about how many people were going to
50:12
Speaker 2: be there, how there were bad guys planning to do
50:14
Speaker 2: things that was kept from the rank and file, that
50:17
Speaker 2: was kept from leadership. That's the same woman that wouldn't
50:23
Speaker 2: have denied Lieutenant Johnson's request. This She was later promoted
50:29
Speaker 2: and then given a push job at half a million
50:31
Speaker 2: dollars a year in California at the University of Berkeley.
50:35
Speaker 2: This is it's such a game of nepotism and collusion
50:41
Speaker 2: that it's it's I know, Hollywood writers that couldn't write
50:45
Speaker 2: something this this this good, But it's the reality of
50:48
Speaker 2: what's happening. It's reality what we've been facing.
50:51
Speaker 1: Chris can ask you were into some pretty deep politics, yeah,
50:57
Speaker 1: and some serious events. Did you already have knowledge to
51:03
Speaker 1: this depth before you started making the films about Capitol Hill?
51:08
Speaker 1: Were you already on the trail that something was wrong
51:11
Speaker 1: in America and the events in Capitol Hill and making
51:15
Speaker 1: the movies focused you or have you been somebody who's
51:19
Speaker 1: been learning over well, I won't say too many years,
51:23
Speaker 1: but learning over your lifetime.
51:26
Speaker 2: It's been over twenty years of learning this. And it
51:29
Speaker 2: all happened back in two thousand and five when I
51:32
Speaker 2: went down to first cover the border, because what we
51:35
Speaker 2: saw on the border was one hundred and eight degrees
51:38
Speaker 2: different from what was being reported on the news. And
51:41
Speaker 2: at the time, I thought, if I could just capture
51:44
Speaker 2: what's happening on the border, show the truth, or what
51:47
Speaker 2: the ranchers are going through, the illegal emerates are going through,
51:50
Speaker 2: the law enforcements going through, I could just get that
51:53
Speaker 2: truth and show it to our leaders. They would fix
51:56
Speaker 2: the border and they would shut down the drug trafficking,
51:58
Speaker 2: the child trafficking, of the rapes and torture of women
52:02
Speaker 2: that was happening on the border. And we documented all
52:04
Speaker 2: this stuff. We're the first person to bring out rape treats.
52:07
Speaker 2: We thought, if we just let the government know this
52:09
Speaker 2: is going on, they would fix it. Well that was
52:13
Speaker 2: my wake up call because up until then I was
52:16
Speaker 2: in Hollywood, had lots of friends, things were great. When
52:18
Speaker 2: we did that, we became the targets and that's how
52:23
Speaker 2: we first learned that it's not about the truth, it's
52:25
Speaker 2: about an agenda, and you want to shut down a message,
52:28
Speaker 2: attack the messengers. So my wife and I were attacked.
52:31
Speaker 2: People we knew in Hollywood for twenty years wouldn't return
52:33
Speaker 2: our phone calls. Now they do because what we said
52:36
Speaker 2: twenty years ago all came true. But twenty years ago
52:39
Speaker 2: it sounded like conspiracy theory. There's a saying, we have
52:43
Speaker 2: the United States right now. What's the difference between conspiracy
52:46
Speaker 2: theory and mainstream media news? And the answer is about
52:49
Speaker 2: three and a half weeks, because that's how fast things
52:52
Speaker 2: have been changing here in the United States. But the
52:57
Speaker 2: struggle for the soul of America, it's not just an
53:00
Speaker 2: intelligence agencies and politicians and foreign governments fighting for control
53:05
Speaker 2: of this country. It's also it's all a battle of
53:08
Speaker 2: good and evil because most people I don't know in
53:11
Speaker 2: Europe that they understand that the United States was created
53:15
Speaker 2: by a bunch of people that believed that resistance to
53:18
Speaker 2: tyranny was obedience to God. And at the time, you know,
53:22
Speaker 2: we were an occupied nation by by by Britain. We
53:26
Speaker 2: had paid German mercenaries, the Hessians in our population centers
53:30
Speaker 2: pushing us down. And the people that fought back and
53:34
Speaker 2: won our freedom, they were they were farmers. They fought
53:38
Speaker 2: during the fall and winter, after harvest and before the
53:40
Speaker 2: spring planting came. They fought in the winter with no
53:44
Speaker 2: shoes because they believed so hard and freedom that they
53:47
Speaker 2: would rather die on their feet than to live on
53:51
Speaker 2: their knees. That's who America is. That's and it comes
53:55
Speaker 2: from our knowledge that our rights come from God. Like
53:58
Speaker 2: I said, not the state. That where you're seeing the
54:03
Speaker 2: United States of America right now is we're seeing a
54:05
Speaker 2: struggle for the soul of America. Is America going to
54:08
Speaker 2: return to God and the Constitution? Or are we going
54:12
Speaker 2: to go the way the globalists and the world economic
54:15
Speaker 2: form and go to where you own nothing and you'll
54:19
Speaker 2: be happy. That's where we're at right now, the United
54:22
Speaker 2: States of America. And when you see Trump being back
54:26
Speaker 2: in office, the United States has now shifted to going
54:28
Speaker 2: on offense and for our freedom. So you said we
54:33
Speaker 2: live in interesting times. Will the Chinese say that's a
54:35
Speaker 2: blessing anachurse? May you live in interesting times? But we
54:39
Speaker 2: certainly are. But I'm extremely, extremely helpful because I've been
54:42
Speaker 2: doing this for twenty years. You know, ask me if
54:43
Speaker 2: this is what got me into it, finding what was
54:46
Speaker 2: on the border and seeing that. It's funny how everything
54:49
Speaker 2: became related. National security for the United States of America
54:53
Speaker 2: starts at the border. And I will tell you that
54:56
Speaker 2: two years ago, two and a half years ago, I'm
54:58
Speaker 2: home and I in two days, I saw more trained
55:01
Speaker 2: military operatives coming across the border in Texas than I
55:05
Speaker 2: had seen all together in the previous eighteen years. So
55:10
Speaker 2: when you have more people in the United States of America,
55:13
Speaker 2: we've lost more people to fentanyl deaths that have come
55:16
Speaker 2: across that southern border. And we lost in Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan,
55:23
Speaker 2: and Iraq combined. Okay, in the United States America is
55:27
Speaker 2: in a fifth generation war. I'm not sure. Michael Waller
55:31
Speaker 2: told you that. And you can't win a war if
55:34
Speaker 2: you don't understand that you're in it. Right now, what
55:37
Speaker 2: you're seeing is an awakening process in the United States
55:40
Speaker 2: America as people start to learn the truth of what's
55:44
Speaker 2: really going on. And it's January sixth, it was a
55:49
Speaker 2: big pivot point.
55:49
Speaker 1: Then let's just come back to the film. What sort
55:53
Speaker 1: of type of audience have you had That film's gone out,
55:58
Speaker 1: people have watched it, Who is it resonated with? Give
56:02
Speaker 1: us a positive gives us some positive reports on your efforts.
56:08
Speaker 2: It's resonating with absolutely everyone, and why it's been the
56:12
Speaker 2: most censored movie of twenty twenty four is because it's
56:17
Speaker 2: a dangerous movie. The truth is the last thing that
56:20
Speaker 2: you want when you're trying to take over a nation.
56:23
Speaker 2: And when people on the left see this, When people
56:26
Speaker 2: on the right see the movie, the conservatives, they see it,
56:29
Speaker 2: they go, Okay, that makes sense, now I understand, Oh
56:31
Speaker 2: this is horrible, we have to stop it. They get it.
56:34
Speaker 2: But when people on the left see this, people that
56:36
Speaker 2: have believed everything that they've been told, everything they've seen
56:38
Speaker 2: on the mainstream media, they get so angry, so upset.
56:43
Speaker 2: And the first movie we focused on Ashley Babbitt. In
56:46
Speaker 2: our test audiences, some people, some liberals, they didn't cry
56:49
Speaker 2: when Ashley Babbitt died, But a few minutes later, when
56:52
Speaker 2: her dog died of a broken heart because Ashley never
56:55
Speaker 2: came home, then they started crying. Then they lost it.
56:58
Speaker 2: And when that happened, the skin fall from their eyes
57:01
Speaker 2: and they go on to search for truth. So this
57:03
Speaker 2: movie is resonated with everyone, which is why it's been
57:06
Speaker 2: so incredible for us. And then in the War on truth.
57:09
Speaker 2: When you see these lies, when you see manipulations, when
57:14
Speaker 2: you see how this is an orchestrated event and you're
57:17
Speaker 2: on the left, it makes people just it just knocks
57:22
Speaker 2: down belief systems. And the biggest thing I can tell
57:26
Speaker 2: you in your audience, Brian, is you can't just tell
57:29
Speaker 2: people the truth. You have to show them. Now I've
57:31
Speaker 2: been blessed. I could have been sitting in prison for
57:34
Speaker 2: making capital punishment and never made the war on truth.
57:37
Speaker 2: Instead I got to work with came to work with
57:41
Speaker 2: his Glory Ministries. His Glory Ministries, We're about bringing a
57:44
Speaker 2: billion souls to Christ and bringing the light of truth
57:47
Speaker 2: to the world. As a lie cannot stand up to
57:50
Speaker 2: the light of truth, and the truth is never afraid
57:51
Speaker 2: of a lie. So on our television network, you'll see
57:55
Speaker 2: everything from great scripture, great Bible stories, great praise music.
57:58
Speaker 2: So you'll see interviews like we're doing now. You'll see
58:01
Speaker 2: Michael Waller, You'll see former FBI agents and whistleblowers like
58:06
Speaker 2: Kyle Seraphim and Steve Friend on our network telling the
58:09
Speaker 2: truth to get the truth out there. Because when people
58:12
Speaker 2: hear the truth, it resonates with them. That's that's just
58:15
Speaker 2: in our DNA and you know, we love you guys
58:19
Speaker 2: in the UK. I've seen some of the stuff that
58:24
Speaker 2: you're going through, and I see people being arrested for
58:27
Speaker 2: for for speech or for thoughts in your country. I
58:32
Speaker 2: look at us and I go, that's that they're just
58:34
Speaker 2: a few years ahead of us as they go, so
58:36
Speaker 2: we go. So I just we've got to be together
58:42
Speaker 2: on this. We all have to stand together in liberty
58:44
Speaker 2: and freedom because that's that's what unites us. And you're
58:48
Speaker 2: seeing that across the board. There's a real crisis right now.
58:51
Speaker 2: In the old days, you control the media in America
58:54
Speaker 2: with just three news outlets, but now information is everywhere
58:58
Speaker 2: and people are searching information they're hungry for.
59:00
Speaker 1: I think that was an excellent summary to finish on. Really,
59:04
Speaker 1: I was just going to add when you were talking
59:07
Speaker 1: about people being arrested for in UK, of course, the
59:11
Speaker 1: most telling one is people now increasingly being arrested for praying.
59:16
Speaker 1: And this is very significant in my mind, and it
59:19
Speaker 1: tells us a lot about the belief system of the
59:23
Speaker 1: people we're up against because they're frightened of prayer. Maybe
59:27
Speaker 1: that's the place to end on.
59:29
Speaker 2: I don't think you could have picked a better place.
59:32
Speaker 2: I mean, how do we get this? People are frightened
59:34
Speaker 2: of prayer and they're resting people in the UK. And
59:38
Speaker 2: when you see The War on Truth and go to
59:40
Speaker 2: the War Ontruthmovie dot com. The War Ontruthmovie dot com
59:44
Speaker 2: is where you can see this film. I also ask
59:46
Speaker 2: you to go to his Glory dot tv. You can
59:49
Speaker 2: see Capital Punishment there for free. You can see the
59:51
Speaker 2: mini series for The War on Truth for free. You'll
59:54
Speaker 2: see that that those that seek the gain power are
1:00:00
Speaker 2: extremely afraid of those people that believe in prayer. And
1:00:03
Speaker 2: I think if we could unite in prayer globally, that
1:00:05
Speaker 2: would just be outstanding. Bright.
1:00:07
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, Chris, I'm going to say thank you very
1:00:10
Speaker 1: much for giving up your time to be with us.
1:00:12
Speaker 1: It's been absolutely fascinating and I'm sure people are going
1:00:17
Speaker 1: to be going to have a look at that material.
1:00:19
Speaker 1: We'll make sure we give them a good prompt and
1:00:22
Speaker 1: I would love to have you back at some stage
1:00:24
Speaker 1: in the future and maybe we can do a part
1:00:27
Speaker 1: two or maybe look at some different areas of things
1:00:30
Speaker 1: that are happening in the States, if you've got time
1:00:35
Speaker 1: to do that. But thank you very much for joining
1:00:37
Speaker 1: me today.
1:00:38
Speaker 2: You bet God bless h