Latest / The JBS Show with Jamie Burchell / Pinball Roundtable LIVE from the Seminar Room at Pinball Expo 2026
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- 0:00SPEAKER_04: All right.
- 0:00SPEAKER_04: Glenn Wector just said this to me.
- 0:02SPEAKER_04: I we haven't heard it, so I have no idea what he's gonna say.
- 0:06SPEAKER_15: Oh God.
- 0:08SPEAKER_15: As the twenty twenty-six Pimball Expo comes to a close, the world's number one pinball podcast will bring you alive for unscripted hour of entertainment for second to nobody.
- 0:18SPEAKER_15: Let me introduce your host.
- 0:21SPEAKER_15: He's the retro ruler that joined the juggling juggernaut of the public collective talk of the architecture.
- 0:30SPEAKER_15: Your health for our electrical article.
- 0:51SPEAKER_15: The product of the hand put your head together for Jimmy.
- 1:01SPEAKER_15: Joy that's one hour special presentation of the football around the table.
- 1:06SPEAKER_04: Production values off the charts.
- 1:08SPEAKER_04: Beautiful, beautiful.
- 1:10SPEAKER_04: All right, let's get the notes.
- 1:13SPEAKER_04: Let's get the notes.
- 1:15SPEAKER_04: We need to discuss$3,000 that some of you people have spent on a game you don't know what it is.
- 1:22SPEAKER_04: I mean, you know what it is, but you haven't seen a picture, you haven't seen anything.
- 1:25SPEAKER_04: So let's talk about the deposit for a game that you might need a time machine to go play uh called Back to the Future.
- 1:32SPEAKER_04: Who anyone here has put$3,000 down?
- 1:35SPEAKER_04: Ozzy, of course.
- 1:36SPEAKER_04: Well, Ozzy buys everything.
- 1:38SPEAKER_04: There we go, right there.
- 1:41SPEAKER_04: How much is do we even know how much this is gonna cost?
- 1:44SPEAKER_06: No, we have no idea.
- 1:45SPEAKER_05: I actually do know.
- 1:46SPEAKER_04: Oh it's gonna be$15,000.
- 1:51SPEAKER_05: How about that?
- 1:52SPEAKER_06: Is that is that in addition to the three grand you already put down?
- 1:55SPEAKER_06: Or how does that work?
- 1:56SPEAKER_05: Well, I hope I sure hope not, but I didn't put the$3,000 down.
- 2:00SPEAKER_05: You didn't?
- 2:00SPEAKER_05: No, I did.
- 2:02SPEAKER_05: I did.
- 2:02SPEAKER_05: I did.
- 2:03SPEAKER_05: And you guys, everyone knew in this room that I was gonna do it.
- 2:06SPEAKER_05: Sucker.
- 2:07SPEAKER_05: I don't feel that great about it though, because I don't know.
- 2:09SPEAKER_04: We'll see how it's uh but but we do we know if tariffs are gonna be involved?
- 2:15SPEAKER_05: Do we know any of that?
- 2:16SPEAKER_05: That cost is is rolled into it, basically.
- 2:18SPEAKER_04: Okay, so 15 grand all in, you'll get it in 2035.
- 2:22SPEAKER_05: Well, if you go by their advertisement, it's gonna start shipping in Q2 of 2027.
- 2:27SPEAKER_05: That's what they're saying.
- 2:28SPEAKER_05: That's what they're saying.
- 2:28SPEAKER_06: Okay, you know, I did I I saw the game yesterday.
- 2:32SPEAKER_05: Oh wait, you did?
- 2:33SPEAKER_06: The Midnight Plunger?
- 2:35SPEAKER_06: It looks really, really good.
- 2:37SPEAKER_06: It looks really, really good.
- 2:38SPEAKER_05: You saw it?
- 2:39SPEAKER_05: Like you actually saw it with things on it.
- 2:41SPEAKER_06: No, no, no.
- 2:41SPEAKER_06: Uh well, I saw photos of the the entire game.
- 2:46SPEAKER_06: Hey no.
- 2:47SPEAKER_06: Yeah, okay.
- 2:48SPEAKER_06: They they just and and Chris already said this in the in the seminar.
- 2:52SPEAKER_06: They finally got approval for all of the uh likenesses of Michael J.
- 2:56SPEAKER_06: Fox.
- 2:57SPEAKER_06: So everything is greenlit.
- 2:59SPEAKER_06: We're going.
- 3:00SPEAKER_04: All right.
- 3:01SPEAKER_04: Well, congratulations to the two people here that put their 3,000 down.
- 3:05SPEAKER_04: Everyone else is clearly a lot smarter than us.
- 3:08SPEAKER_04: So there you go.
- 3:09SPEAKER_04: Uh, next topic is Keith Ellen making another street level pinball machine.
- 3:14SPEAKER_06: He kind of he alluded to that on uh Dirty Pool's pinball podcast, right?
- 3:20SPEAKER_06: Yeah, he did.
- 3:21SPEAKER_06: Yeah, he did.
- 3:22SPEAKER_06: Um and but what what I think I think he was talking about the Mountain Dew game.
- 3:26SPEAKER_05: Uh that's what I thought too.
- 3:28SPEAKER_05: I think I don't know where you're going with this one.
- 3:30SPEAKER_04: I didn't put it in the topic notes.
- 3:32SPEAKER_05: It's not my topic.
- 3:34SPEAKER_04: He says that when it's when it's don't don't look at me.
- 3:37SPEAKER_04: All right, so that's it.
- 3:38SPEAKER_04: It's just my that's it.
- 3:40SPEAKER_06: I that's what I think it is.
- 3:41SPEAKER_06: Because there's no way Star Trek is gonna be a single-level game.
- 3:44SPEAKER_06: Do we know it's Star Trek?
- 3:46SPEAKER_06: I do.
- 3:47SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
- 3:49SPEAKER_05: Is this is this the part we're gonna reveal that the Midnight Plunger is actually David Fix, or is that not David?
- 3:54SPEAKER_06: Let me let me see let me see if the plunge is in the audience.
- 3:58SPEAKER_06: He is here, not not in this room, but he's at this expo.
- 4:02SPEAKER_06: Uh-oh.
- 4:03SPEAKER_05: You guys know that we've asked Kale a million times who the we don't we don't have no idea who the Midnight Plunger is.
- 4:08SPEAKER_05: Like I do that God's honest truth.
- 4:10SPEAKER_06: I have to protect you guys.
- 4:11SPEAKER_06: I I love that.
- 4:12SPEAKER_06: Thank you.
- 4:12SPEAKER_05: Well, we already get in enough trouble on our own, so I don't need that kind of heat.
- 4:16SPEAKER_04: So, anything from the Midnight Plunger, real quick?
- 4:19SPEAKER_04: Uh not yet.
- 4:21SPEAKER_04: Okay.
- 4:21SPEAKER_04: But he has my number.
- 4:24SPEAKER_04: Does everybody know Jengis?
- 4:26SPEAKER_04: You know, Jengis from WAP, WAP.
- 4:29SPEAKER_04: We are Pinball.
- 4:30SPEAKER_05: Well, there's like two people.
- 4:31SPEAKER_05: I I kind of thought maybe no one would know who he is.
- 4:34SPEAKER_04: Jengis got a response.
- 4:35SPEAKER_04: We did a podcast recently where we were talking about Pinball Brothers and not answering emails.
- 4:43SPEAKER_04: And Ralph, we we weren't the only ones.
- 4:45SPEAKER_04: We weren't everybody's talking about emails.
- 4:48SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I mean, so total silence.
- 4:50SPEAKER_04: We forgot that Europeans take like three months off.
- 4:54SPEAKER_04: No excuse.
- 4:55SPEAKER_04: Yeah, no, no, no, no.
- 4:56SPEAKER_04: But what happened?
- 4:57SPEAKER_04: Well, they're simply on vacation, they're concentrating on building shipping Totan, and they're sorry they didn't answer anything.
- 5:04SPEAKER_04: There why is that okay?
- 5:06SPEAKER_04: It's not okay.
- 5:07SPEAKER_06: You can't, there's no away message.
- 5:10SPEAKER_05: Yeah, the out of office on Teams is pretty easy.
- 5:13SPEAKER_05: It's just gone fishing pinball brothers.
- 5:15SPEAKER_06: How is that how is that even the response?
- 5:18SPEAKER_06: We we haven't been answering the phone because we were on vacation.
- 5:22SPEAKER_05: Well, what they told him doesn't make any sense either.
- 5:24SPEAKER_05: So it was like he goes, Hey, so should I alert the community of what you're saying?
- 5:29SPEAKER_05: And he goes, Well, if you want to.
- 5:31SPEAKER_05: It's like, as the business owner, if I owned a pinball business and I knew the community was kind of having some uncomfortable feelings about my company and what I was doing, I wouldn't say, just if you feel like it, let everybody know.
- 5:42SPEAKER_05: Like he's the guy that owns the business.
- 5:44SPEAKER_05: Like, it's up to him to go tell all of us that we should feel good about whatever they're doing in their go forward strategy or whatever.
- 5:50SPEAKER_05: But uh, but no, and they said the same thing to me in an email.
- 5:53SPEAKER_05: It was just like, all right, Ralph, we'll we'll uh you know what we'll update you and we have something to say.
- 5:57SPEAKER_05: And I just feel like that's not a great answer.
- 5:59SPEAKER_05: It's not.
- 6:00SPEAKER_05: No, that's not.
- 6:01SPEAKER_05: What does that mean?
- 6:02SPEAKER_05: What how am I supposed to feel as like the consumer?
- 6:05SPEAKER_05: Not good, right?
- 6:06SPEAKER_05: How's your predator?
- 6:08SPEAKER_05: Oh, that's messed up.
- 6:10SPEAKER_05: I sold the predator, but it's not because I don't like it.
- 6:12SPEAKER_05: It's not because they know I turn over games quickly.
- 6:15SPEAKER_05: I actually really liked Predator.
- 6:16SPEAKER_05: I know Ozzy had one.
- 6:18SPEAKER_05: His is for sale.
- 6:19SPEAKER_05: Did you sell it yet?
- 6:20SPEAKER_05: No, he didn't sell it yet.
- 6:21SPEAKER_05: Okay, good.
- 6:22SPEAKER_05: Um, I did sell mine, but I had I had to lower the price probably to a place you wouldn't want to go with it.
- 6:27SPEAKER_05: But yeah, no, I sold it, but it was it was good.
- 6:29SPEAKER_05: I felt like it was a good game.
- 6:30SPEAKER_05: I mean, it shot really clunky, but it was still like kind of fun if you like Predator.
- 6:37SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
- 6:38SPEAKER_05: And no Arnold.
- 6:40SPEAKER_05: You know, has anybody played Predator in here?
- 6:43SPEAKER_05: Yeah, like it it I mean, Arnold's there, he's just he just doesn't have this.
- 6:48SPEAKER_05: He's from here down.
- 6:49SPEAKER_05: So you just know it's Arnold.
- 6:50SPEAKER_05: It's not that bad.
- 6:51SPEAKER_06: There is some Arnold code floating around.
- 6:54SPEAKER_06: Right.
- 6:54SPEAKER_06: Have you seen this?
- 6:55SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah.
- 6:56SPEAKER_05: I I did a little bit myself before I sold it.
- 6:58SPEAKER_05: So like there's this thing called the I've remembered the name of the tool.
- 7:00SPEAKER_05: It's called like putt PUD or something.
- 7:03SPEAKER_05: No, not PUD.
- 7:04SPEAKER_05: I don't know, it's Pug or I don't remember what it's called.
- 7:06SPEAKER_05: Anyways, there's a tool, and you can did we talk about this?
- 7:09SPEAKER_06: Oh, is that when you bricked your game?
- 7:11SPEAKER_06: No, no, you did.
- 7:12SPEAKER_06: Which game was it?
- 7:13SPEAKER_06: Oh, UConn Yeti.
- 7:15SPEAKER_06: Great game, by the way.
- 7:16SPEAKER_05: No, I alright.
- 7:17SPEAKER_05: I want to make sure that everyone knows it, like, because Chris Turner makes great games.
- 7:20SPEAKER_05: I screwed something up when I when I was when I got my my uh Turner.
- 7:24SPEAKER_05: But no, there's this tool out on Pinside where you can take like any game major manufacturer game from like American turn, uh, I don't know if Turner's on there, but let's just say I don't remember all of them, but it's most of the major manufacturers, and you can put your own music, your own movie.
- 7:38SPEAKER_05: Like, if you want the clips to be different, you can do it yourself.
- 7:40SPEAKER_05: It's not hard to do either.
- 7:41SPEAKER_05: You don't have to be someone that knows how to code things.
- 7:44SPEAKER_05: And uh, I started putting the Arnold clips in and then I I I sold it, but uh, but no, it was it's pretty fun because you can kind of customize it.
- 7:51SPEAKER_05: But if people don't know this, Turner actually has uh the ability to add your own music on UConn Yeti too.
- 7:58SPEAKER_05: He doesn't like widely advertise it, but if you if you have one, you can stick a USB in and you can uh it'll build this little file system for you.
- 8:05SPEAKER_05: You can replace anything spinner, sounds, sound effects, music.
- 8:08SPEAKER_05: Yeah, so we we actually streamed it and we we sampled like a couple of new songs for it.
- 8:12SPEAKER_05: It's pretty cool, it's super easy to do.
- 8:14SPEAKER_04: Yeah, there you go.
- 8:16SPEAKER_04: Yeah, cool.
- 8:18SPEAKER_04: All right, next topic.
- 8:21SPEAKER_04: Jerry refuses to sell a game to Don.
- 8:26SPEAKER_05: Okay, maybe I should tee this one up.
- 8:28SPEAKER_05: Tee it up for us.
- 8:29SPEAKER_05: All right, so I guess Don.
- 8:31SPEAKER_05: You guys all know Don from Don's Pinball Podcast, right?
- 8:34SPEAKER_05: Yes.
- 8:36SPEAKER_05: Is he in here?
- 8:37SPEAKER_05: He's not in here, isn't he?
- 8:38SPEAKER_04: No, he's left.
- 8:38SPEAKER_04: He went to work.
- 8:39SPEAKER_05: Oh, he would have loved this.
- 8:40SPEAKER_05: So Jerry at multimorphic will not sell a P3 to Don.
- 8:46SPEAKER_04: Yeah, he's been blacklisted.
- 8:47SPEAKER_05: He's been blacklisted.
- 8:49SPEAKER_05: So I know more of the story, but I'd like to hear your.
- 8:53SPEAKER_04: I don't even like walking the hall with Don near P3.
- 8:56SPEAKER_04: Like, I don't even want to.
- 8:58SPEAKER_06: I love it.
- 8:58SPEAKER_06: I like to push the envelope.
- 8:59SPEAKER_06: You do?
- 9:00SPEAKER_06: So I asked Don what happened.
- 9:02SPEAKER_06: What did he say?
- 9:03SPEAKER_06: Well, it was um at first he said, Oh, I just I said something he didn't like.
- 9:07SPEAKER_06: And I and I said, Don, you know what you said.
- 9:11SPEAKER_06: Tell me what you said.
- 9:13SPEAKER_06: But I think he said it was like over a year ago.
- 9:16SPEAKER_06: He said uh Jerry took the worst parts of pinball and virtual pinball and put it all into one game.
- 9:24SPEAKER_05: Jeez.
- 9:24SPEAKER_06: Yeah, and I was like, Well, I didn't know that part.
- 9:28SPEAKER_05: Are you serious?
- 9:29SPEAKER_06: Yeah, no, I understood the problem.
- 9:33SPEAKER_06: Yeah, I understood why he's banned.
- 9:35SPEAKER_05: Yeah, all right.
- 9:35SPEAKER_05: So he has a reason to be a little upset.
- 9:37SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah.
- 9:38SPEAKER_05: All right, so wow.
- 9:40SPEAKER_04: All right.
- 9:40SPEAKER_04: So Don's never gonna get a P3 now.
- 9:43SPEAKER_05: I guess not.
- 9:44SPEAKER_05: So he he wanted a dungeon crawler carl.
- 9:46SPEAKER_04: He wanted a dungeon crawler carl, and I can't have it.
- 9:48SPEAKER_04: And he can't have one.
- 9:50SPEAKER_05: There's a little more to it.
- 9:51SPEAKER_05: Can we get a little bit more juicy?
- 9:52SPEAKER_05: Go ahead.
- 9:53SPEAKER_05: I didn't I don't know anything.
- 9:54SPEAKER_05: No, it's really juicy, though.
- 9:55SPEAKER_05: I don't know.
- 9:55SPEAKER_05: Oh, we need it.
- 9:56SPEAKER_06: Come on, Ralph.
- 9:57SPEAKER_05: You can't see the old see I tee myself up to get in trouble.
- 10:00SPEAKER_05: Should I say it?
- 10:01SPEAKER_05: Yeah, hell yeah.
- 10:02SPEAKER_04: Too laid down.
- 10:03SPEAKER_05: No, it's too bad.
- 10:04SPEAKER_05: All right, maybe we'll save it.
- 10:05SPEAKER_05: I gotta save it.
- 10:06SPEAKER_05: Whisper it into my ear.
- 10:09SPEAKER_05: So supposedly Jerry called the distributor and said, don't sell it to him.
- 10:15SPEAKER_04: That's that's true.
- 10:16SPEAKER_04: That's that's a fact.
- 10:17SPEAKER_05: That's true.
- 10:17SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
- 10:18SPEAKER_05: Are we in front of like a lot of people right now?
- 10:21SPEAKER_05: We're in front of a few people.
- 10:23SPEAKER_05: I mean, they I mean you must really dislike him.
- 10:25SPEAKER_04: No, I think Don was gonna get it, try to stream it, right?
- 10:29SPEAKER_04: Right.
- 10:29SPEAKER_04: And then uh Jerry said Don's not an approved streamer.
- 10:33SPEAKER_04: Right, you have to be approved.
- 10:34SPEAKER_04: You have to be approved by P3.
- 10:36SPEAKER_05: So is anybody in here an approved P3 streamer by chance?
- 10:40SPEAKER_04: I don't think so.
- 10:42SPEAKER_05: Are there approved P3 streamers?
- 10:44SPEAKER_04: Well, probably me and you before Don.
- 10:47SPEAKER_05: Uh I I I just for a second, I we did play Dungeon Crawler Carl.
- 10:52SPEAKER_06: Yeah, we did.
- 10:53SPEAKER_05: Yeah, we did.
- 10:54SPEAKER_05: What is everyone's consensus?
- 10:55SPEAKER_05: Actually, what are your guys' consensus?
- 10:57SPEAKER_05: I guess like applause for you.
- 10:59SPEAKER_06: Well, you can't get everybody's opinion right now.
- 11:02SPEAKER_05: No, but they can applause, they can do we can rate it that way.
- 11:04SPEAKER_05: Okay.
- 11:04SPEAKER_06: Oh, that's a good move.
- 11:05SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
- 11:05SPEAKER_05: Like, do you like it?
- 11:07SPEAKER_06: By applause, what do you think about Dungeon Crawler Carl?
- 11:10SPEAKER_05: Ah, okay.
- 11:12SPEAKER_05: That is good.
- 11:13SPEAKER_05: All right, lukewarm.
- 11:14SPEAKER_05: Lukewarm.
- 11:15SPEAKER_05: At first it was just Rachel clapping.
- 11:17SPEAKER_05: Rachel loves it.
- 11:18SPEAKER_04: Rachel, Rachel loves it.
- 11:19SPEAKER_05: But you really did.
- 11:20SPEAKER_05: Rachel was Luke.
- 11:21SPEAKER_05: She loves it.
- 11:21SPEAKER_05: But she even said to us, she goes, Look, you guys haven't really invested time in the books.
- 11:25SPEAKER_05: If you did, you might think differently about it.
- 11:27SPEAKER_05: And she might be right.
- 11:28SPEAKER_05: Um, yeah, but she was you were loving it.
- 11:31SPEAKER_05: You were having a good time.
- 11:32SPEAKER_05: She was having a ball.
- 11:33SPEAKER_04: Can we tell our Jerry story real quick?
- 11:35SPEAKER_04: Oh, yeah.
- 11:36SPEAKER_04: Okay.
- 11:36SPEAKER_04: So he's not here, is he?
- 11:39SPEAKER_04: All right.
- 11:40SPEAKER_04: So we get hooked up.
- 11:42SPEAKER_04: This is a definite get-in-trouble story, actually.
- 11:44SPEAKER_04: I don't care anymore.
- 11:45SPEAKER_04: So we get hooked up, and Kevin Manny, uh from Buffalo, formerly of Buffalo Pinball, says Jerry wants to meet with the round table and Rachel for a pre-game or something like that.
- 11:58SPEAKER_05: But but it was like for a private, like, hey, we really want you guys to experience it, right?
- 12:03SPEAKER_05: Yeah, that was a good thing.
- 12:04SPEAKER_04: We thought we were getting like a private hot shit, you know, VIP treatment that we were gonna not have to wait in the lines because if anybody has seen the lines of P3, they're pretty damn long, right?
- 12:14SPEAKER_04: So we're thinking the round table, you know, we have the number one podcast.
- 12:17SPEAKER_04: We're gonna, and that's self-proclaimed, by the way, but I don't care.
- 12:23SPEAKER_04: I don't really care.
- 12:24SPEAKER_04: And uh, so we go and we met with Jerry on the side, and we kind of got lectured for like 30 minutes, right?
- 12:33SPEAKER_06: We did.
- 12:33SPEAKER_06: I was surprised.
- 12:34SPEAKER_04: I was surprised about the walk away because I I don't need to hear it was like the the dean bringing us over and yelling at us because our fraternity is too loud and we're doing too many bad things.
- 12:45SPEAKER_04: And as president of my former fraternity, I know.
- 12:48SPEAKER_05: Can I tell you how it felt to me?
- 12:49SPEAKER_05: What?
- 12:50SPEAKER_05: All right, so my parents are divorced, but don't don't feel bad about that.
- 12:53SPEAKER_05: Uh my yeah uh go go go dirt go go divorce.
- 12:59SPEAKER_05: Dirty pool, what dirty team divorce?
- 13:03SPEAKER_05: What are you even doing?
- 13:04SPEAKER_05: So no, but I don't even know what to do with that.
- 13:07SPEAKER_05: That's awesome.
- 13:08SPEAKER_05: Okay, so so my parents are divorced.
- 13:10SPEAKER_05: I my stepfather's the best.
- 13:12SPEAKER_05: He stepped in as a dad, it was awesome, but we don't need to talk about that.
- 13:14SPEAKER_05: I'm fine, everything's fine with me.
- 13:16SPEAKER_05: I have a couple minor issues, but everything's usually pretty good.
- 13:19SPEAKER_05: So my father used to like when when I'd visit him, he'd like pull me.
- 13:25SPEAKER_05: He was he was my father's like a really big like business guy, he's like very serious.
- 13:29SPEAKER_05: But like when you're a kid, like I have kids, I don't talk to my kids like it's a business conversation.
- 13:34SPEAKER_05: And he used to bring me into this his office with this like oak desk, and I would sit on the other side, and it would I would be so uncomfortable the whole time.
- 13:42SPEAKER_05: I felt like that.
- 13:43SPEAKER_05: I felt like Jerry turned into my dad.
- 13:45SPEAKER_04: Ralph whispers to me.
- 13:46SPEAKER_04: He goes, Is this weird?
- 13:48SPEAKER_05: I'm like, but yeah, but the thing is, I whispered it to him and Jerry's right there.
- 13:53SPEAKER_05: I was like, Is it is this weird?
- 13:54SPEAKER_04: And Mason's filming us, right?
- 13:57SPEAKER_04: Because we told Mason, we told Mason we're hot shit and we're gonna get to uh yeah, Mason was so disappointed.
- 14:04SPEAKER_04: He's like, So we're all effing mic'd up, all of us.
- 14:07SPEAKER_04: We're all mic'd up, we're thinking, and basically we got a lecture for 30 minutes that it's our fiduciary responsibility as content creators to make be positive, yeah.
- 14:17SPEAKER_05: I mean, yeah, but I I just love Mason because he was just like, hey, um, like because he wasn't trying to talk because he didn't want to like interrupt.
- 14:23SPEAKER_05: He's like, the game, the game's coming out right.
- 14:26SPEAKER_06: So we thought the game was like the like behind closed doors.
- 14:30SPEAKER_06: I was told they were gonna give us a private showing and the game was gonna be roped off just for us, but instead we got dragged into the corner of the hall and said that we need to be more positive because something about like he he couldn't pay his workers enough to hear the criticism.
- 14:48SPEAKER_06: Uh I mean it was all really awkward.
- 14:51SPEAKER_06: It was tough.
- 14:51SPEAKER_06: It was a tough conversation.
- 14:53SPEAKER_05: I felt extremely uncomfortable.
- 14:54SPEAKER_04: So I was like, can we play it?
- 14:57SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
- 15:00SPEAKER_05: I'd like to play it.
- 15:01SPEAKER_05: And then we waited for 40 more minutes to play it.
- 15:04SPEAKER_05: It was a long, it felt like an eternity.
- 15:06SPEAKER_05: It did.
- 15:07SPEAKER_05: I was like, we're talking about coil stops.
- 15:10SPEAKER_05: I was like, I don't even know.
- 15:11SPEAKER_05: I just want to play it.
- 15:12SPEAKER_05: But anyway.
- 15:14SPEAKER_04: No, I don't think we even have a do we have a did Mason record any of that?
- 15:18SPEAKER_04: Mason was like, This is dog shit.
- 15:19SPEAKER_04: I'm out.
- 15:19SPEAKER_05: I'm out.
- 15:20SPEAKER_05: He left.
- 15:20SPEAKER_05: Yeah, he left.
- 15:21SPEAKER_05: He went to go eat some portillos or something.
- 15:22SPEAKER_05: He's like, I'm out of here.
- 15:24SPEAKER_05: Goodbye.
- 15:25SPEAKER_05: The funny thing is as he's walking away, he can actually hear us because he wears headphones.
- 15:28SPEAKER_05: So he was like, Oh man, I'm out of here.
- 15:30SPEAKER_04: Anyway, we love you, Jerry.
- 15:31SPEAKER_04: God bless you.
- 15:32SPEAKER_04: I just wasn't really in the mood for a lecture.
- 15:35SPEAKER_04: Uh at a pinball expo.
- 15:38SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it was what it was.
- 15:40SPEAKER_04: It was what it was.
- 15:41SPEAKER_04: It was sketched in our memories forever.
- 15:43SPEAKER_04: So thanks, Jerry, for the time.
- 15:44SPEAKER_04: That was fun.
- 15:45SPEAKER_04: Uh and you we didn't say anything bad about the machine.
- 15:48SPEAKER_05: No.
- 15:49SPEAKER_06: Oh, so we're off to a good stuff.
- 15:51SPEAKER_06: We're good.
- 15:51SPEAKER_06: I like P3.
- 15:53SPEAKER_06: I I like it.
- 15:54SPEAKER_06: You've always said I've always said I like it, and I like it.
- 15:57SPEAKER_06: You said some other stuff about it, but well, when it works, we have to be positive.
- 16:02SPEAKER_06: You agreed to be positive.
- 16:04SPEAKER_06: I did agree about P3.
- 16:06SPEAKER_06: We shook hands on it.
- 16:07SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 16:08SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
- 16:08SPEAKER_05: And so you should good luck with that.
- 16:10SPEAKER_06: Good luck with that.
- 16:10SPEAKER_06: So no honest reviews from now on.
- 16:14SPEAKER_05: No honest reviews.
- 16:15SPEAKER_04: No.
- 16:16SPEAKER_05: No.
- 16:16SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 16:17SPEAKER_04: No.
- 16:17SPEAKER_04: Because we have a fiduciary responsibility.
- 16:20SPEAKER_04: Uh all right, next topic.
- 16:22SPEAKER_04: Are there too many pinball companies?
- 16:25SPEAKER_04: That's a question.
- 16:26SPEAKER_06: You want who do you want me to go?
- 16:28unknown: Yeah.
- 16:29SPEAKER_06: I do.
- 16:30SPEAKER_06: No, there's not.
- 16:31SPEAKER_06: Well, the math doesn't work, but I like it because I want to I want to see what everybody puts out there.
- 16:38SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 16:39SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 16:39SPEAKER_06: But it's just like when uh when uh Jack is is this true when when you started your company, did Gary tell you don't do it because you're gonna put us both out of business?
- 16:57SPEAKER_06: There you go.
- 16:58SPEAKER_06: You go.
- 16:59SPEAKER_06: There you go.
- 17:00SPEAKER_06: But I mean but it here we here we all are, right?
- 17:03SPEAKER_05: That would really encourage me to continue, really.
- 17:05SPEAKER_05: That's like an uplifting talk, you know?
- 17:07SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
- 17:07SPEAKER_05: Like, hey Jack, like I don't think you should do this, man.
- 17:10SPEAKER_05: Is everybody micing him up?
- 17:11SPEAKER_05: Or did everyone hear what Jack said?
- 17:13SPEAKER_05: Or Jack, you want to repeat it?
- 17:19SPEAKER_05: Hi Jack.
- 17:19SPEAKER_05: Hi Jack.
- 17:20SPEAKER_11: So he said you're gonna put both of us out of business because there's not enough people to buy pinball machines.
- 17:28SPEAKER_04: I can't hear a thing either.
- 17:30SPEAKER_05: That did not translate up here at all.
- 17:32SPEAKER_05: Um that was like Charlie Brown's.
- 17:33SPEAKER_05: Did you guys hear it?
- 17:35SPEAKER_06: Well, the speaker speakers always go on.
- 17:40SPEAKER_11: Well, he said he said that you're uh you're gonna put us both out of business because there's not enough people to buy pinball machines.
- 17:47SPEAKER_11: Right.
- 17:47SPEAKER_11: And I said, Gary, you've been doing this your whole life.
- 17:50SPEAKER_11: You don't know the market, you don't know the customer base.
- 17:53SPEAKER_11: Because I obviously had pinballsales.com and I was selling games to the home for 20 years.
- 18:00SPEAKER_06: Okay.
- 18:02SPEAKER_06: There you have it.
- 18:03SPEAKER_06: Open and shut case.
- 18:04SPEAKER_06: Really, I really case home.
- 18:05SPEAKER_05: Well, we're glad you decided to not take that advice, Jack.
- 18:08SPEAKER_04: So I my opinion very quickly is I took economics in college, I took a nice semester, so I'm obviously an expert.
- 18:16SPEAKER_04: And uh supply has the demand for pinball been that high?
- 18:22SPEAKER_04: Because the supply is very high.
- 18:24SPEAKER_04: So I can't I just can't see all these companies making it.
- 18:28SPEAKER_04: That's just my gut.
- 18:30SPEAKER_05: All right, I'm gonna I'm gonna be both I'm gonna be a realist a little bit, but not negative.
- 18:35SPEAKER_05: I just so someone came up to me and they were like, I want to buy my first game.
- 18:39SPEAKER_05: This was here, and I actually a couple people did, and they went, Oh yeah, you did.
- 18:43SPEAKER_05: And um, and uh well it wasn't your conversation I was thinking of, but there was another one where we started to go down the list, and he said to me, He goes, Man, how am I gonna make this decision?
- 18:54SPEAKER_05: And I go, Well, and I'm not, I'm not, this is me not being a jerk.
- 18:57SPEAKER_05: I go, Do you love the three musketeers?
- 19:02SPEAKER_05: And he's like, No.
- 19:03SPEAKER_05: I was like, Okay, well, then we're gonna X that one off the list.
- 19:05SPEAKER_04: Take it off.
- 19:06SPEAKER_05: I go, I go, what do you like?
- 19:07SPEAKER_05: He's like, Well, I like Fallout.
- 19:08SPEAKER_05: I like I like Fallout.
- 19:09SPEAKER_05: I was like, okay, let's put that on your list.
- 19:11SPEAKER_05: I go, Do you like Bon Jovi?
- 19:13SPEAKER_05: And he said, I do not like Bon Jovi.
- 19:14SPEAKER_05: I said, Have you played it?
- 19:15SPEAKER_05: And he goes, Not yet.
- 19:16SPEAKER_05: I go, you should play it.
- 19:17SPEAKER_05: And uh, and we went down that list and started reducing it.
- 19:20SPEAKER_05: Um, but I think that the tough thing is, is it's cool to see the creativity, but now there's just so many options, and I think we're getting used to seeing these like mega IPs that like we're gravitating towards those, so it gives less of a chance for someone like Turner who has a great game with Yukon Yeti.
- 19:36SPEAKER_05: I that game, if you play it, you you can't not like that game, right?
- 19:40SPEAKER_05: It's really fun, but but is he gonna have as good of a chance when he's up against like Fallout and Beetlejuice and you know the list goes on and on?
- 19:48SPEAKER_05: So I think that's the that's probably more an issue for them than it is for us.
- 19:52SPEAKER_05: Is for us, it's like cool, we get to see all this awesome stuff to your point, but it it's gonna be really hard for for me to make a decision if I can only afford one.
- 19:59SPEAKER_05: Which one am I gonna go with?
- 20:01SPEAKER_05: And I think that's the that's the problem.
- 20:03SPEAKER_04: Good point.
- 20:03unknown: All right.
- 20:04SPEAKER_05: Man, I made a good point.
- 20:05SPEAKER_04: Good for you, Ralph.
- 20:08SPEAKER_04: Barrels of fun.
- 20:09SPEAKER_04: Where he left.
- 20:11SPEAKER_04: Good.
- 20:11SPEAKER_04: Jeff left.
- 20:12SPEAKER_04: Oh, damn it.
- 20:12SPEAKER_04: Oh, he's still here.
- 20:15SPEAKER_04: Do they have Jay and Silent Bob?
- 20:17SPEAKER_04: That's the answer.
- 20:18SPEAKER_04: That's what we keep hearing.
- 20:18SPEAKER_04: They have Jay and Silent Bob.
- 20:20SPEAKER_04: He's definitely gonna tell us.
- 20:21SPEAKER_04: Do they have Jay and Silent Bob?
- 20:24SPEAKER_04: Thank you.
- 20:25SPEAKER_04: Does Silent Bob do the call-outs?
- 20:31SPEAKER_04: Oh, okay.
- 20:32SPEAKER_05: Wait a minute.
- 20:35SPEAKER_05: Okay.
- 20:35SPEAKER_05: Never mind.
- 20:36SPEAKER_05: He does do the sound.
- 20:37SPEAKER_04: He does do the sound.
- 20:38SPEAKER_04: You don't do sound there anymore?
- 20:41SPEAKER_04: Oh, okay.
- 20:43SPEAKER_04: That could have been some breaking shit, right?
- 20:44SPEAKER_04: Sweet.
- 20:46SPEAKER_05: So that was literally one thing you said, let's ask Jeff if they have Jay and Silent Bob.
- 20:50SPEAKER_04: Well, I didn't have that in the notes.
- 20:51SPEAKER_04: I didn't know Jeff would be here.
- 20:52SPEAKER_05: So I just of course Jeff would be here.
- 20:54SPEAKER_05: We're not going to be able to do that.
- 20:56SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I heard that in Spongebob.
- 20:58SPEAKER_04: Spongebob.
- 20:59SPEAKER_04: I heard so.
- 20:59SPEAKER_04: Yeah, bring them both on.
- 21:00SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 21:01SPEAKER_04: Or something else.
- 21:02SPEAKER_04: Who cares?
- 21:02SPEAKER_04: I just don't get the whole Jay and Silent Bob thing.
- 21:05SPEAKER_04: What are you gonna do?
- 21:06SPEAKER_04: Maul rats or clerks?
- 21:08SPEAKER_04: Clerks.
- 21:09SPEAKER_04: Clerks?
- 21:10SPEAKER_06: David David said it was a like a multi, unless he was messing with people, it was a it's a multi uh like m film game.
- 21:19SPEAKER_06: Because we're getting this.
- 21:20SPEAKER_06: So that could be uh chasing Amy, right?
- 21:22SPEAKER_06: Chasing Amy.
- 21:23SPEAKER_06: You remember that one?
- 21:23SPEAKER_06: Fingercuffs?
- 21:26SPEAKER_04: Dogma, good dogma dogma.
- 21:29SPEAKER_04: What else is there?
- 21:30SPEAKER_04: I can't see them doing dogma.
- 21:31SPEAKER_05: So chasing Amy, Clerks, Maul Rats, Dogma.
- 21:35SPEAKER_05: Is there my missing one?
- 21:36SPEAKER_05: Are we missing one?
- 21:37SPEAKER_06: Clerks.
- 21:38SPEAKER_05: I said clerks, JF and Bob Strike Back.
- 21:42SPEAKER_05: My favorite.
- 21:43SPEAKER_05: Not really, but um I don't know, but hey, did you guys check out in the in the homebrew area?
- 21:49SPEAKER_05: And I always call call it the wrong thing.
- 21:51SPEAKER_05: I'm calling it Flate of the Navigator.
- 21:53SPEAKER_05: That's definitely not what it's called.
- 21:54SPEAKER_05: What's the uh anime game that the two barrels guys did?
- 21:59SPEAKER_05: That game.
- 22:00SPEAKER_05: Is have you guys played that?
- 22:02SPEAKER_05: Those are like two of the young guys at barrels.
- 22:05SPEAKER_05: They need to make that game.
- 22:06SPEAKER_05: The game is incredible.
- 22:08SPEAKER_05: I mean, it blew my mind.
- 22:09SPEAKER_06: Well, let them finish Jay and Silent Basper and then we'll get into it.
- 22:14SPEAKER_04: I got excited.
- 22:14SPEAKER_04: You know I get excited.
- 22:16SPEAKER_04: Alright, next topic.
- 22:21SPEAKER_04: Screw you.
- 22:23SPEAKER_05: You have a question?
- 22:24SPEAKER_05: David Fix has a question.
- 22:26SPEAKER_03: Well uh oh.
- 22:29SPEAKER_05: Oh no.
- 22:30SPEAKER_03: There we go.
- 22:31SPEAKER_03: Okay, um, just so you guys know, um, remember a few years back we did the homebrew challenge at AP?
- 22:38SPEAKER_03: Well, those two guys that are did it from barrels, they were the winners for AP.
- 22:44SPEAKER_03: And they had done the game Pokemon.
- 22:46SPEAKER_03: And we were going to we were going after the Pokemon license and Stern bit us out.
- 22:51SPEAKER_03: But we hired or we brought Luke, who did Barrel Titans, uh, into AP and he worked for us for a whole semester as an intern.
- 23:01SPEAKER_03: And then when he graduated, he went to uh barrels of fun.
- 23:05SPEAKER_03: Oh, sorry.
- 23:07SPEAKER_03: That's it.
- 23:07SPEAKER_03: Yeah, so he got some training with Dennis and Ryan and Zophia and all the guys there at AP.
- 23:14SPEAKER_04: Okay.
- 23:14SPEAKER_03: Thank you for letting us know that, David.
- 23:16SPEAKER_05: It's nice when we have like people that can talk back.
- 23:18SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
- 23:18SPEAKER_05: It's nice.
- 23:19SPEAKER_05: Ladies and gentlemen, the Midnight Plunger.
- 23:22SPEAKER_04: Oh we told you.
- 23:25SPEAKER_04: All right, let's talk about the ACDC that would none of us have seen.
- 23:30SPEAKER_04: Uh we saw pictures of it.
- 23:31SPEAKER_04: We got a price hike, didn't we?
- 23:34SPEAKER_04: I think so.
- 23:35SPEAKER_04: But weren't we not supposed to get a price hike?
- 23:38SPEAKER_06: Well, this is a special uh it's not a quarter, it's not a cornerstone.
- 23:43SPEAKER_04: I I understand, but he said that George Gomez, he's not here, is he?
- 23:48SPEAKER_04: All right, Gomez said Fallout was gonna be a one-off.
- 23:54SPEAKER_04: And they were gonna drop the price back.
- 23:55SPEAKER_05: It's like a studio release, right?
- 23:57SPEAKER_04: Studio release, right?
- 23:57SPEAKER_05: Yes, that exactly he said that exactly when Media Day.
- 24:00SPEAKER_05: That's what he said to us in that room, yes.
- 24:02SPEAKER_04: I don't think so because uh ACDC remastered has a price hike.
- 24:08SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it's a remastered.
- 24:09SPEAKER_04: I mean, what are we talking?
- 24:10SPEAKER_04: It's it's like semantics.
- 24:12SPEAKER_04: You you tell me there's not gonna be a price hike, and then all of a sudden there's a price hike.
- 24:16SPEAKER_04: So what's your point?
- 24:16SPEAKER_04: Somebody lied to you?
- 24:18SPEAKER_04: You know, I got feelings hurt.
- 24:22SPEAKER_04: I got hurt feelings there.
- 24:23SPEAKER_05: Your feelings are gonna cost an extra$500 to do that.
- 24:26SPEAKER_04: I know, but I got all your the guys at Eureka Heights texted me this morning and they're like, I want this on the round table.
- 24:32SPEAKER_04: I want to find out why this is happening.
- 24:33SPEAKER_04: I said, All right, I'll bring it up.
- 24:35SPEAKER_06: Well, things are expensive.
- 24:37SPEAKER_06: Like everything, everything's getting more expensive.
- 24:40SPEAKER_06: This is gonna happen.
- 24:40SPEAKER_06: It doesn't you can't listen to what they're saying.
- 24:43SPEAKER_06: You once it's released, you look at the price, and that's what's going on.
- 24:47SPEAKER_06: You can you can't you can't bank on what the guys from Stern are telling you.
- 24:51SPEAKER_06: That's what that's why you went wrong.
- 24:53SPEAKER_06: Oh, okay.
- 24:54SPEAKER_04: I go wrong a lot.
- 24:56SPEAKER_05: That's Kayla's way of saying this is a stupid question.
- 24:59SPEAKER_04: Yeah, we'll move on.
- 25:00SPEAKER_04: What time is it?
- 25:02SPEAKER_04: We got plenty of time.
- 25:03SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
- 25:03SPEAKER_04: All right.
- 25:04SPEAKER_04: We've put a little pressure on Jack Danger.
- 25:07SPEAKER_04: We know we have.
- 25:08SPEAKER_04: We want Jack Danger back.
- 25:09SPEAKER_04: Does everyone agree with that?
- 25:10SPEAKER_04: Come on, right?
- 25:11SPEAKER_04: Yes.
- 25:12SPEAKER_05: I mean, wait, hold on a second.
- 25:13SPEAKER_04: Hold on a second.
- 25:14SPEAKER_05: Oh, wait, wait, hold on.
- 25:15SPEAKER_05: I gotta I'm gonna wear, I'm gonna put my meta glasses on, and I want to record this.
- 25:21SPEAKER_06: Okay, we'll run it again.
- 25:22SPEAKER_06: So let's run it back.
- 25:23SPEAKER_06: Run it back, run it back, run it back.
- 25:25SPEAKER_06: Run it back.
- 25:25SPEAKER_05: Hold on a second.
- 25:26SPEAKER_05: Let me get let me get dialed in.
- 25:29SPEAKER_05: All right, it's good.
- 25:31SPEAKER_06: All right, so hold on.
- 25:33SPEAKER_05: We'll act like it's not doing its thing.
- 25:35SPEAKER_05: Why is it not doing it?
- 25:36SPEAKER_06: It's not working.
- 25:37SPEAKER_04: I'm just glad it's not me.
- 25:38SPEAKER_04: Did you touch these?
- 25:39SPEAKER_04: I didn't touch shit.
- 25:41SPEAKER_06: Well messy.
- 25:42SPEAKER_06: It hasn't it hasn't booted up yet.
- 25:43SPEAKER_06: I can see what it's.
- 25:46SPEAKER_05: It's got Jamie boot.
- 25:47SPEAKER_05: All right, we'll wait.
- 25:48SPEAKER_05: So we'll go back to it in a second.
- 25:49SPEAKER_06: All right, you're gonna hit record?
- 25:50SPEAKER_06: It's it's fucking still booting up.
- 25:53SPEAKER_05: It never does this.
- 25:54SPEAKER_05: It's still booting up.
- 25:56SPEAKER_04: Oh yeah, it's on me.
- 25:57SPEAKER_05: It literally never does this.
- 25:59SPEAKER_06: Okay.
- 25:59SPEAKER_06: Well, do it with your phone.
- 26:00SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah, good point.
- 26:02SPEAKER_05: I have other things.
- 26:03SPEAKER_05: Yeah, good point.
- 26:03SPEAKER_05: All right, yeah, yeah.
- 26:04SPEAKER_05: We have the other.
- 26:05SPEAKER_05: Wow, I'm turning into Jamie Standing.
- 26:07SPEAKER_05: Oh, you're turning into me.
- 26:08SPEAKER_06: Okay, absolutely.
- 26:09SPEAKER_05: All right, all right.
- 26:09SPEAKER_05: Let's restart.
- 26:11SPEAKER_06: I'll act like I was I was making a point and then I'll pass it to you, and you go uh Jack Danger, blah, blah, blah.
- 26:15SPEAKER_06: All right, set me up.
- 26:16SPEAKER_04: And uh that's pretty much how it goes.
- 26:19SPEAKER_04: Back to you, Jamie.
- 26:21SPEAKER_04: You know, we've put a little pressure on Jack Danger, but we all want Jack Danger back, don't we?
- 26:26SPEAKER_04: We want him recording games.
- 26:28unknown: Yeah.
- 26:31SPEAKER_04: Oh my gosh, they're throwing chairs in here.
- 26:33SPEAKER_04: It's pandemonium.
- 26:35SPEAKER_04: People are throwing chairs.
- 26:37SPEAKER_04: I love it.
- 26:38SPEAKER_04: Standing up for Jack Danger.
- 26:41SPEAKER_04: And I promise you this as long as we have a round table, we're gonna keep pressuring him.
- 26:47SPEAKER_04: Anxiety or not, Jack, we want you back because we need you, man.
- 26:52SPEAKER_04: And he's just fantastic and we love him, and uh, we don't mean anything but that we just love him and we love his designs and we want him back, right?
- 27:00SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 27:01SPEAKER_04: We're putting up a fight.
- 27:03SPEAKER_05: I mean, seriously though, he's gotta.
- 27:05SPEAKER_05: He just brings such a uniqueness to like the layouts and the designs.
- 27:10SPEAKER_04: I mean, if anyone has been at the homebrew section, right, he's there.
- 27:13SPEAKER_06: He's he's been there like eight hours.
- 27:15SPEAKER_06: Oh, he has he has the one of the coolest things in the homebrew section, that little this thing with all the spinners.
- 27:20SPEAKER_06: Go play that thing.
- 27:21SPEAKER_05: It's cool.
- 27:22SPEAKER_06: I I um we talked to Jim Sheard, and he said he can get the price on that thing down to$350 as a desktop toy.
- 27:31SPEAKER_06: I would buy that.
- 27:33SPEAKER_05: Ozzy would buy like 10 of them.
- 27:34SPEAKER_06: Uh yeah.
- 27:36SPEAKER_06: No, but I I talked to Jack today today, and he says he's ready to go.
- 27:41SPEAKER_06: He says we just have to make more noise.
- 27:43SPEAKER_06: He said he has three fantastic ideas.
- 27:47SPEAKER_06: He has three Whitewoods he's been playing with, and he's ready to roll them out.
- 27:52SPEAKER_06: We just have to make a little more noise.
- 27:54SPEAKER_05: Can we do that?
- 27:55SPEAKER_05: Can everyone hear not noise like like the actual noise, but I think we need to just get on it.
- 28:00SPEAKER_04: Like maybe George.gomez at sternpinball.com.
- 28:06SPEAKER_04: Oh my gosh.
- 28:07SPEAKER_04: Go.
- 28:08SPEAKER_04: Let's get I mean if we're gonna do it, let's do it, right?
- 28:10SPEAKER_04: Let's not half-ass this shit.
- 28:12SPEAKER_04: Let's do it.
- 28:13SPEAKER_05: All right, so we'll we're gonna on our next round table.
- 28:15SPEAKER_05: That'll be the call to action on the next round table because all you guys are forget, but we're gonna do that.
- 28:19SPEAKER_05: And we're gonna make everyone, and we had to just double check that that's his actual email.
- 28:22SPEAKER_05: I know, I don't get that up.
- 28:24SPEAKER_05: It might not be, but we'll find it.
- 28:25SPEAKER_05: And we're gonna we're relying on you guys to help us out with that.
- 28:28SPEAKER_05: Yeah, we need Jap back.
- 28:30SPEAKER_04: Yeah, without a doubt.
- 28:31SPEAKER_04: 100%.
- 28:32SPEAKER_04: Without a freaking doubt.
- 28:32SPEAKER_04: Yeah, absolutely.
- 28:33SPEAKER_04: So that's our goal in 2027.
- 28:37SPEAKER_04: Steve Ritchie is retiring.
- 28:39SPEAKER_04: No, yeah, yeah.
- 28:41SPEAKER_06: I don't we I didn't know.
- 28:42SPEAKER_06: Do we clap for that?
- 28:43SPEAKER_06: I don't know.
- 28:44SPEAKER_06: I don't know.
- 28:44SPEAKER_04: It's just been an amazing career.
- 28:46SPEAKER_04: We can definitely clap for his amazing career.
- 28:48SPEAKER_05: Yeah, absolutely.
- 28:52SPEAKER_04: So today I texted Serge and everybody does everybody know Serge from the Electric Vap?
- 29:00SPEAKER_04: I said, Serge, I need your help, brother.
- 29:02SPEAKER_04: Okay.
- 29:03SPEAKER_04: I need instead of listing all of Steve Ritchie's great games, can you give me kind of a snapshot of some of the things that Steve Ritchie innovated?
- 29:13SPEAKER_04: Okay, and here's here's that.
- 29:16SPEAKER_04: He gave it to me.
- 29:17SPEAKER_06: Well, let's he, you know, he already gave it to me before you did all that.
- 29:20SPEAKER_06: All right, go, go, go, go, go.
- 29:22SPEAKER_06: Good call, good call, good call, good call and uh mine's in a nice spreadsheet.
- 29:28SPEAKER_06: Did he send you a spreadsheet?
- 29:29SPEAKER_06: Yeah, he did.
- 29:30SPEAKER_06: He did.
- 29:30SPEAKER_06: That's because I asked him to do it.
- 29:32SPEAKER_04: All right.
- 29:33SPEAKER_04: Well, ChatGPT, what did he say?
- 29:35SPEAKER_06: Well, uh, we're gonna go through some of his innovations.
- 29:39SPEAKER_06: And he he really uh you know paved the the pinball streets.
- 29:44SPEAKER_06: He's the mayor of Pinball City.
- 29:46SPEAKER_06: And there's a lot of things that wouldn't be happening right now if it wasn't for him.
- 29:51SPEAKER_06: Absolutely.
- 29:52SPEAKER_06: Uh so let's get into it and uh yell it out if you know which game I'm talking about.
- 29:58SPEAKER_06: I'm gonna go through some innovations.
- 30:00SPEAKER_06: Tell me which game.
- 30:02SPEAKER_06: Where's Joe?
- 30:02SPEAKER_06: Joe, put your camera down because I I'm I know you're gonna want to answer some of these.
- 30:07SPEAKER_06: He's kind of shit.
- 30:08SPEAKER_06: First pinball with flash lamps.
- 30:15SPEAKER_05: Joe looks so annoyed.
- 30:16SPEAKER_05: Like, yeah, I think that's a good idea.
- 30:16SPEAKER_06: I'll tell you what, well, the the person that gets the most of these right, they get Ralph's creeper glasses.
- 30:23SPEAKER_05: You get his broken glass.
- 30:26SPEAKER_06: First lane change.
- 30:29SPEAKER_06: There we go.
- 30:30SPEAKER_06: Look at you guys.
- 30:33SPEAKER_06: This is easy.
- 30:34SPEAKER_06: First magna save.
- 30:36SPEAKER_06: There you go.
- 30:37SPEAKER_06: Look at David Fix go.
- 30:42SPEAKER_06: First multi-ball only jackpot.
- 30:48SPEAKER_06: Nailed it, nailed it.
- 30:49SPEAKER_06: Kyle, was that you?
- 30:51SPEAKER_06: Way to go, brother.
- 30:52SPEAKER_06: Way to go.
- 30:55SPEAKER_06: First modern automatic ball save.
- 31:04SPEAKER_06: No.
- 31:06SPEAKER_06: No.
- 31:08SPEAKER_06: Bam!
- 31:09SPEAKER_04: Look at this guy your glasses.
- 31:10SPEAKER_04: The midnight plunger.
- 31:12SPEAKER_04: The midnight plunger's on fire tonight.
- 31:15SPEAKER_06: No, this one's contested, but let's if name Steve Richie's game, this applies to first modern wizard mode.
- 31:29SPEAKER_06: Which black knight?
- 31:32SPEAKER_06: Black Knight 2000, there you go.
- 31:34SPEAKER_06: And no, that's a contested one.
- 31:38SPEAKER_06: First player fired swing out cannon.
- 31:42SPEAKER_06: T2.
- 31:43SPEAKER_06: And think about how many we're seeing now.
- 31:45SPEAKER_05: I know.
- 31:45SPEAKER_05: Yeah, cannons are the new race.
- 31:47SPEAKER_05: This year.
- 31:47SPEAKER_05: It's just cannon.
- 31:48SPEAKER_06: Just this year, right?
- 31:49SPEAKER_06: Transformers.
- 31:51SPEAKER_06: Uh Fallout.
- 31:53SPEAKER_06: Was there another one?
- 31:54SPEAKER_05: Well, AC DC could see.
- 31:55SPEAKER_05: ACDC.
- 31:56SPEAKER_05: There's cannons everywhere.
- 31:57SPEAKER_05: That's a Steve Richard.
- 31:58SPEAKER_05: You know what's crazy is like we we we post.
- 32:01SPEAKER_04: Three Musketeers.
- 32:02SPEAKER_05: Oh yeah.
- 32:02SPEAKER_05: I I post, you know, obviously I post a lot of content.
- 32:05SPEAKER_05: It's always the like we dumb thing that I'm like, oh, no one's gonna care about this.
- 32:08SPEAKER_05: If I post a Canon clip, it's like 30,000 people love the cannon.
- 32:12SPEAKER_05: People for cannons.
- 32:15SPEAKER_05: They just love cannons.
- 32:16SPEAKER_06: We need more cannons.
- 32:17SPEAKER_06: We need more cannons.
- 32:18SPEAKER_06: We need more cannons at Big Bang.
- 32:20SPEAKER_06: But they were stable.
- 32:21SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 32:22SPEAKER_06: Cannons.
- 32:23SPEAKER_06: Uh and then last but not least, first Stern Pro Premium L E lineup.
- 32:32SPEAKER_06: What was it, Joe?
- 32:33SPEAKER_06: It's A C D C.
- 32:35SPEAKER_06: Joe.
- 32:36SPEAKER_06: A C D C.
- 32:37SPEAKER_06: Way to go, everybody.
- 32:38SPEAKER_06: Everybody wails.
- 32:39SPEAKER_06: Everybody wails.
- 32:41SPEAKER_04: All right.
- 32:42SPEAKER_04: We're gonna open it up for questions in a minute, okay?
- 32:45SPEAKER_04: And no crickets, please.
- 32:47SPEAKER_04: Someone asked something.
- 32:49SPEAKER_04: Uh but we do want to make an announcement.
- 32:52SPEAKER_04: It wasn't on the list, so bear with me.
- 32:54SPEAKER_04: Oh, he looked at me.
- 32:56SPEAKER_04: We're kind of worried.
- 32:57SPEAKER_04: I really They get worried when I go off script.
- 33:01SPEAKER_04: We're doing an award show, damn it.
- 33:04SPEAKER_04: And we really think there needs to be an award show.
- 33:07SPEAKER_04: There needs to be, right?
- 33:08SPEAKER_04: There has to be.
- 33:09SPEAKER_04: And we've had it with this.
- 33:12SPEAKER_04: So I tried to buy the Twipe's.
- 33:14SPEAKER_04: It's not happening.
- 33:15SPEAKER_04: So we're gonna just make our own.
- 33:17SPEAKER_04: And it's gonna be called the Pinball Academy Awards.
- 33:20SPEAKER_04: It will be in January.
- 33:22SPEAKER_04: Stay tuned.
- 33:23SPEAKER_04: It's gonna be an awesome.
- 33:25SPEAKER_04: We're gonna have an entire academy of 20 people that will do the voting.
- 33:30SPEAKER_04: We are panpicking experts in our field in content creation and in industry to be our board of directors.
- 33:40SPEAKER_04: And it's just gonna be incredible.
- 33:41SPEAKER_04: And our voters, and I can't wait for more information.
- 33:44SPEAKER_04: David Fix.
- 33:48SPEAKER_04: Oh wow.
- 33:50SPEAKER_04: Oh about that?
- 33:52SPEAKER_04: You think Rob Burkin like that?
- 33:55SPEAKER_04: Let's make that happen next year.
- 33:57SPEAKER_04: The Pinball Academy Awards.
- 34:03SPEAKER_04: I got excited.
- 34:04SPEAKER_04: Dave got me excited.
- 34:07SPEAKER_05: He's gonna he we're gonna go outside after this.
- 34:10SPEAKER_05: He's gonna be like, did I did I mess up?
- 34:12SPEAKER_05: Did I have that all up?
- 34:13SPEAKER_05: Kinda.
- 34:14SPEAKER_05: I don't know.
- 34:16SPEAKER_05: Maybe I like the idea.
- 34:17SPEAKER_04: I like the idea, but then all the designers are crazy.
- 34:24SPEAKER_04: But see, David, the problem is we're gonna want to buy it.
- 34:26SPEAKER_05: We don't have a lot of money, David.
- 34:29SPEAKER_05: You're getting complicated here, dude.
- 34:33SPEAKER_05: David, I made 50 bucks on Facebook last month.
- 34:36SPEAKER_05: It's pretty it's pretty freaking rough.
- 34:40SPEAKER_04: Oh, all right.
- 34:41SPEAKER_04: That hurts.
- 34:42SPEAKER_05: That hurts.
- 34:43SPEAKER_04: Anyway, Academy Awards.
- 34:45SPEAKER_04: Oh, we got notes coming up here.
- 34:46SPEAKER_04: Oh, it's a super chat.
- 34:47SPEAKER_04: Live super chat.
- 34:49SPEAKER_04: Live super chat.
- 34:50SPEAKER_04: Two bucks from Stringer Films.
- 34:53SPEAKER_04: Super chat.
- 34:56SPEAKER_05: Wow.
- 34:57SPEAKER_04: Live super chat.
- 34:58SPEAKER_04: Wait a minute.
- 34:59SPEAKER_04: Wait a minute.
- 35:00SPEAKER_05: We broke it around here.
- 35:02SPEAKER_06: What the hell is that?
- 35:02SPEAKER_05: Actually, Jamie takes all the money.
- 35:06SPEAKER_06: $2 super chat from at Stringer Films.
- 35:10SPEAKER_06: I thought this was supposed to be trivia.
- 35:15SPEAKER_06: Idiot.
- 35:18SPEAKER_04: Thank you, Stringer.
- 35:19SPEAKER_04: He wrote it on toilet paper.
- 35:21SPEAKER_04: He wrote it on toilet paper.
- 35:23SPEAKER_04: So that's awesome.
- 35:25SPEAKER_05: Physical money, that's pretty cool.
- 35:26SPEAKER_05: It is physical money.
- 35:27SPEAKER_05: YouTube doesn't take any cut out of that.
- 35:30SPEAKER_05: Thank you.
- 35:30SPEAKER_05: It's full$2.
- 35:31SPEAKER_04: It's all$2 for us.
- 35:32SPEAKER_04: Thank you.
- 35:33SPEAKER_05: Two bucks.
- 35:33SPEAKER_05: Damn.
- 35:34SPEAKER_04: All right, let's open it up for questions.
- 35:36SPEAKER_04: Is that cool?
- 35:38SPEAKER_05: And it's we are we having like a no-holds bar to you?
- 35:41SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it doesn't have to be pinball related.
- 35:43SPEAKER_04: It can be whatever you want.
- 35:44SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it can be anything.
- 35:45SPEAKER_04: You know, let's stay away from like Cornell and stuff.
- 35:48SPEAKER_04: Like, we don't need to know anything.
- 35:50SPEAKER_04: It's just stay away from anything crazy.
- 35:57SPEAKER_17: Hi, Lauren, longtime listener, first time caller.
- 36:01SPEAKER_17: Yes, sir.
- 36:02SPEAKER_17: This question, Amy.
- 36:04SPEAKER_17: Oh boy.
- 36:05SPEAKER_17: We started a rumor that you love hanging out with people from Minnesota.
- 36:10SPEAKER_04: I had a good time last night.
- 36:11SPEAKER_04: Could you tell us why that's true?
- 36:14SPEAKER_04: Why is it true that I like hanging out with people in Minnesota?
- 36:17SPEAKER_04: Salt of the earth.
- 36:18SPEAKER_04: Minnesotans?
- 36:21SPEAKER_04: Those are good people.
- 36:23SPEAKER_04: That was a good answer, right?
- 36:25SPEAKER_08: And uh oh, Josh Roo.
- 36:31SPEAKER_08: Also longtime listener, first time caller.
- 36:36SPEAKER_08: So, you know, numbers don't lie, and you guys are the best podcast or Josh Roo.
- 36:41SPEAKER_08: Yes.
- 36:42SPEAKER_08: But with all that fame and awesomeness, there sometimes haters, what's the wildest comment that you guys have received about your guys' JBS show?
- 36:53SPEAKER_08: Oh, that's a good question.
- 36:57SPEAKER_05: I'm gonna look to you to this because I haven't seen anything that's like overly, you know, nothing that's like too bad.
- 37:02SPEAKER_04: I got a troll on uh TikTok that gets me.
- 37:07SPEAKER_04: And I'm not gonna say his name.
- 37:10SPEAKER_04: It's probably a bot.
- 37:11SPEAKER_04: No, this guy's real.
- 37:15SPEAKER_04: And um, he just is all over me.
- 37:17SPEAKER_04: Anything I say, he's like, Oh yeah, well, what about this?
- 37:20SPEAKER_05: And I'm just like Actually, the funny thing is, is I asked there was someone that started following me on TikTok.
- 37:24SPEAKER_05: I don't really do TikTok much.
- 37:26SPEAKER_05: There's someone who started following me, and I was like, Do you know this guy?
- 37:28SPEAKER_05: He's like, That guy's an asshole.
- 37:29SPEAKER_05: And I was like, Whoa, like what did he do to you?
- 37:31SPEAKER_05: So this guy, you really this you don't like this guy.
- 37:34SPEAKER_04: No, he's a troll, man.
- 37:35SPEAKER_04: He just is all over me.
- 37:37SPEAKER_05: I can't deal with it.
- 37:38SPEAKER_05: But we haven't had like a lot of like positive.
- 37:40SPEAKER_05: I get all sorts of awesome ones.
- 37:42SPEAKER_04: Yeah, you get a lot of shrapnel, yeah, tons of it.
- 37:46SPEAKER_04: Much more than me.
- 37:47SPEAKER_04: People know I'm sensitive.
- 37:48SPEAKER_04: So I think they know Jamie's sensitive.
- 37:52SPEAKER_04: Kale, then I you don't get anything, and that's surprising me.
- 37:56SPEAKER_05: They know, see, they know that you jujitsu their ass, and I think that's why they just don't mess with you.
- 38:01SPEAKER_05: Yeah, no, I do, I do.
- 38:02SPEAKER_05: You don't get it, no.
- 38:05SPEAKER_06: I get calls from Gomez every now and then.
- 38:07SPEAKER_06: And what are those like?
- 38:09SPEAKER_05: But we are those like Jerry ones or worse.
- 38:12SPEAKER_06: It's basically like you know, uh that may be true, but you can't tell people that.
- 38:20SPEAKER_06: And and I go, okay, and they just keep doing what I'm doing.
- 38:27SPEAKER_06: That was a good question.
- 38:28SPEAKER_05: I mean, I got I shared it last time, Josh, when we did the uh thing.
- 38:32SPEAKER_05: I got you have a dumb face.
- 38:34SPEAKER_05: And my response was, I can't change that.
- 38:37SPEAKER_05: Like it's so that's the only that's probably the worst one I got.
- 38:41SPEAKER_05: I don't think my face is dumb.
- 38:42SPEAKER_05: It's kind of could be.
- 38:45SPEAKER_04: All right, Jeff from Dirty Pool.
- 38:48SPEAKER_15: I I left a comment that said you had a dumb face and you never responded to me.
- 38:55SPEAKER_05: I love you, Jeff.
- 38:58SPEAKER_05: And the whole Dirty Pool family.
- 39:01SPEAKER_04: My wife has a joke with me.
- 39:03SPEAKER_04: Uh, real quick, Hans, one second.
- 39:05SPEAKER_04: My wife has a joke with me that people I am me, and I don't know who they are.
- 39:10SPEAKER_04: Hold on, we got a super chat in a second.
- 39:13SPEAKER_04: We'll read the super chat in a second.
- 39:15SPEAKER_04: But when someone is like becomes really friendly with me, I tell them, look, if I ever go missing, here is the person's name.
- 39:25SPEAKER_04: Because I'd probably be chained up in their basement.
- 39:29SPEAKER_04: They want to talk pimbo with me 24 hours a day.
- 39:32SPEAKER_05: Yeah, well.
- 39:32SPEAKER_06: All right, super chat.
- 39:34SPEAKER_06: Super chat, two bucks, and this one was actually a two-dollar bill.
- 39:38SPEAKER_06: Oh.
- 39:38SPEAKER_06: At Stringer Films.
- 39:40SPEAKER_06: Don't worry, Don will be able to pick one up next month off Facebook Marketplace.
- 39:49SPEAKER_05: That's a low blow, Stringer.
- 39:50SPEAKER_05: Stringer.
- 39:51SPEAKER_05: That's not nice.
- 39:52SPEAKER_06: Is that a dungeon caller Carl?
- 39:55SPEAKER_06: What is what is that in reference to?
- 39:57SPEAKER_06: I think three?
- 39:58SPEAKER_05: I think he's trying to like say that people aren't gonna want him.
- 40:01SPEAKER_05: I that's not fair.
- 40:02SPEAKER_05: That's not right.
- 40:02SPEAKER_05: That's not we're not allowed to do that.
- 40:04SPEAKER_05: Dungeon caller Carl?
- 40:04SPEAKER_05: Yeah, we're not allowed to do that.
- 40:05SPEAKER_05: I don't think it's people are gonna do share responsibility not to do that.
- 40:08SPEAKER_05: But you don't think what?
- 40:09SPEAKER_06: I don't think people will dump them.
- 40:11SPEAKER_05: No, I don't either.
- 40:11SPEAKER_05: I think they have oil fit.
- 40:15SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 40:16SPEAKER_06: And if you notice when we played it, only two books were open.
- 40:21SPEAKER_06: Yeah, and they had like some like eight or maybe more.
- 40:24SPEAKER_06: Rachel was seven books.
- 40:28SPEAKER_05: Yeah, so they're gonna have up to seven books worth of content.
- 40:31SPEAKER_05: That's a lot of content in a game.
- 40:32SPEAKER_05: I don't know a lot of work.
- 40:34SPEAKER_05: P3, in all fairness, has a loyal fan base and they they they tend to keep them.
- 40:38SPEAKER_05: You'd hardly see them for sale.
- 40:40SPEAKER_05: So I would say I disagree with that, but I will take your two dollars.
- 40:44SPEAKER_05: Thank you for the super chat, Stringer.
- 40:46SPEAKER_06: Yeah, thank you so much.
- 40:47SPEAKER_06: Keep them coming.
- 40:48SPEAKER_10: Let's Hans.
- 40:50SPEAKER_10: Guys, first of all, you guys are amazing.
- 40:53SPEAKER_10: This is this show is exactly I thought it'd be different with you sitting up there, but it's it's the same thing.
- 40:58SPEAKER_10: It's so cool.
- 41:00SPEAKER_10: Um, what if any business ventures beyond the podcast have you guys discussed together?
- 41:06SPEAKER_04: Well, we were gonna start a distributorship.
- 41:09SPEAKER_04: Uh, that's a true story.
- 41:11SPEAKER_04: And we actually had a meeting.
- 41:13SPEAKER_04: Yeah, we actually had a zoom meeting with uh well fuck it, Stern.
- 41:18SPEAKER_04: And uh I thought we were gonna get it, and then we ran the numbers and realized we'll be living in a van down by the river, and well, I was like I'd be divorced.
- 41:28SPEAKER_05: Well, it was funny because I'm like, Jamie, this is a lot of capital to put up.
- 41:31SPEAKER_05: Like, how much are you gonna put up?
- 41:33SPEAKER_05: He's like, Nothing.
- 41:34SPEAKER_05: Uh, probably nothing.
- 41:35SPEAKER_05: Probably nothing.
- 41:35SPEAKER_05: I was like, well, how is this gonna work?
- 41:37SPEAKER_05: But I didn't have that money.
- 41:38SPEAKER_05: I mean, there's no way we would have been able to do it.
- 41:40SPEAKER_05: I mean, because you have to so you have to have a brick and mortar location, you have to buy so many games right away.
- 41:45SPEAKER_05: Like, you have to have so many in stock, you gotta have parts, you gotta have service, you have to have a truck, you have to have a liftgate truck, you have to do all these things, and so it as excited as we were, it deflated us pretty damn quick.
- 41:56SPEAKER_04: Yeah, right.
- 41:57SPEAKER_05: That was a bummer.
- 41:57SPEAKER_05: We were bummed.
- 41:58SPEAKER_04: I was really bummed because I thought, like, how cool would it be to work in pinball, right?
- 42:03SPEAKER_04: And I have literally no skills, so that's why.
- 42:06SPEAKER_05: I was probably gonna do the majority of the work, but you were gonna do the sales part of the phone.
- 42:10SPEAKER_04: I was gonna I was gonna sell the shit out of them, yeah.
- 42:12SPEAKER_04: And uh when we ran the numbers, it was pretty depressing.
- 42:16SPEAKER_05: Well, and then I'm sensitive a little bit.
- 42:18SPEAKER_05: You guys probably know I'm a little sensitive sometimes.
- 42:20SPEAKER_05: I have a pretty thick skin for most stuff, but then you know, um, my buddy, my buddy Canada was like, he won't stainball money, he won't stainball money, and I was like, what the heck, man?
- 42:31SPEAKER_05: So so then it deflated me even more because I'm like, how does he know about this?
- 42:34SPEAKER_05: How did he find out?
- 42:35SPEAKER_05: And then and then I got upset with Jamie because I'm like, we're not doing it now.
- 42:38SPEAKER_05: But anyways, we didn't do it, but it's fine.
- 42:41SPEAKER_05: I had another venture that I was gonna do, but I don't know if that could go long if I start talking about that.
- 42:45SPEAKER_04: How much time do we have?
- 42:46SPEAKER_04: Pinball gloves.
- 42:47SPEAKER_04: Pinball gloves.
- 42:50SPEAKER_06: Looks like we have another question.
- 42:53SPEAKER_12: Come on up.
- 42:54SPEAKER_12: No show is complete without some rumors.
- 42:58SPEAKER_12: So, what is your favorite, juiciest rumor that you've heard over the past couple days at Expo?
- 43:04SPEAKER_12: If you're able to speak.
- 43:08SPEAKER_04: They are rocking in this wedding, by the way.
- 43:10SPEAKER_04: This wedding is kicking ass.
- 43:12SPEAKER_05: Hold on a second.
- 43:13SPEAKER_04: Hold on a second, right?
- 43:14SPEAKER_06: Let's crash it.
- 43:15SPEAKER_04: We should crash this fucking wedding.
- 43:18SPEAKER_04: Damn.
- 43:20SPEAKER_04: Right?
- 43:20SPEAKER_04: I mean, how funny would that be if we just walk in like pinball nerds all over shorts?
- 43:26SPEAKER_05: And we're bringing a pickle.
- 43:27SPEAKER_05: We'll have a pickle covered.
- 43:30SPEAKER_04: They are rocking.
- 43:32SPEAKER_05: They stopped.
- 43:34SPEAKER_05: That was a very short-lived dance before that.
- 43:36SPEAKER_05: Okay, anyway.
- 43:37SPEAKER_05: It's alright.
- 43:41SPEAKER_05: Too juiciest rumor.
- 43:43SPEAKER_05: Juiciest rumor.
- 43:44SPEAKER_05: Is there anything that you guys can?
- 43:45SPEAKER_06: I don't think I heard uh I mean, I heard it like a Masters of the Universe rumor, but that I mean that's it, right?
- 43:50SPEAKER_04: We heard one a few minutes ago, but we can't talk about it.
- 43:54SPEAKER_05: Oh, we de we definitely can't talk about that.
- 44:00SPEAKER_05: I'm gonna help.
- 44:01SPEAKER_05: No, we're not doing that.
- 44:02SPEAKER_06: It was like Yeah, we literally were walking over here, we heard one.
- 44:07SPEAKER_04: And it was really pretty cool.
- 44:09SPEAKER_06: You're talking about what Jack told us?
- 44:10SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 44:11SPEAKER_06: Yeah, yeah.
- 44:11SPEAKER_06: We can't.
- 44:14SPEAKER_06: Jack, we can't do that.
- 44:15SPEAKER_06: Jack, do you want to come up come up here and announce anything?
- 44:24SPEAKER_04: No, no, no, no, no.
- 44:30SPEAKER_04: Leave him alone.
- 44:30SPEAKER_06: Alright, next question, ladies and gentlemen.
- 44:38SPEAKER_17: How do we get Chris Caloris back here?
- 44:42SPEAKER_17: I didn't hear that.
- 44:43SPEAKER_17: How do we get Chris Caloris back here?
- 44:45SPEAKER_06: Oh, back here?
- 44:46SPEAKER_17: I heard he was banned.
- 44:47SPEAKER_17: Is he banned?
- 44:48SPEAKER_17: He's definitely banned.
- 44:50SPEAKER_04: Yeah, he got banned.
- 44:51SPEAKER_04: Why?
- 44:52SPEAKER_04: He got banned.
- 44:53SPEAKER_04: Um I don't think he's that bad.
- 44:57SPEAKER_04: Uh you know, first of all, the guy plays piano really nicely, and we're missing that.
- 45:04SPEAKER_04: All right?
- 45:04SPEAKER_05: Because his piano session was really cool.
- 45:06SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it was great.
- 45:07SPEAKER_05: And I want to say actually, um, this is gonna weave into the awards thing.
- 45:10SPEAKER_05: Our awards will not have anybody be exempt from the awards.
- 45:13SPEAKER_05: Everybody is eligible for the awards.
- 45:15SPEAKER_05: There's no filtering.
- 45:17SPEAKER_05: We do not believe in that.
- 45:18SPEAKER_05: No one's being censored, everybody is eligible.
- 45:21SPEAKER_05: So when when they're voting on the content creators, it's your favorite content, it's the favorite content creator.
- 45:26SPEAKER_05: It's not no one is is off limits.
- 45:27SPEAKER_05: So absolutely.
- 45:33SPEAKER_04: Well, maybe we'll figure.
- 45:36SPEAKER_16: Great show, guys.
- 45:37SPEAKER_16: Appreciate you.
- 45:38SPEAKER_04: Hey Jamie, great name.
- 45:40SPEAKER_16: Hey, the other Jamie right here.
- 45:42SPEAKER_04: The other Jamie.
- 45:43SPEAKER_16: Uh Kale, Rachel, you guys have kind of proven out the uh UConn Yeti is working great.
- 45:50SPEAKER_16: Uh as that concept proves out, do you think other manufacturers will start to maybe implement his software platforms to improve reliability?
- 46:01SPEAKER_06: Can we say anything?
- 46:04SPEAKER_01: He uh Yes, I that other people will be picking up things.
- 46:18SPEAKER_06: Yeah, so um I know Chris is talking to a man uh the talk started this weekend with an uh another manufacturer to start using his platform in their game.
- 46:32SPEAKER_06: So I don't want I don't want to give away anything, but yeah.
- 46:39SPEAKER_06: Oh, you already talked about it?
- 46:42SPEAKER_06: There you go.
- 46:44SPEAKER_06: There you go.
- 46:44SPEAKER_06: We just American Pinball is gonna start using Turner's platform, which I think is great.
- 46:50SPEAKER_06: I think it's a rock solid platform.
- 46:52SPEAKER_06: Uh very good.
- 47:05SPEAKER_06: And I'm really glad you did that, Larry, so I didn't get in trouble.
- 47:12SPEAKER_06: Good deal.
- 47:13SPEAKER_06: That's awesome.
- 47:14SPEAKER_04: Ladies and gentlemen, the real Midnight Fight.
- 47:16SPEAKER_06: I don't I really love that.
- 47:17SPEAKER_06: With uh you know, at the Electric Barricade, we get a lot, a lot of plays.
- 47:22SPEAKER_06: And you know, we we've been gone for a little bit, but I'm sure now that UConn Yeti probably has about like 2,300 plays.
- 47:30SPEAKER_06: Oh, she's saying more, and we have yet to have to take the glass off.
- 47:35SPEAKER_06: That's unheard of.
- 47:36SPEAKER_06: Even even Stern makes some of the most rock solid games in the business, and we still have to take the glass off sometimes.
- 47:43SPEAKER_06: This is unheard of uh with with pinball machines.
- 47:47SPEAKER_06: So Chris is really doing something special.
- 47:49SPEAKER_04: If Chris were to do another game, uh he's gonna do another game, but his next, you know, he does this family-friendly.
- 47:57SPEAKER_04: We were trying to think about what game you think he's got next.
- 48:00SPEAKER_04: Like what IP should he do.
- 48:03SPEAKER_05: Well, he hasn't really done a licensed IP.
- 48:06SPEAKER_04: I think the next one's gonna be licensed, is what we're hearing.
- 48:09SPEAKER_06: He would he would want it to be, but uh there's there's I don't think there's anything planned yet.
- 48:13SPEAKER_06: Okay.
- 48:14SPEAKER_06: It's it's elf.
- 48:15SPEAKER_05: What did someone say?
- 48:16SPEAKER_05: It's elf.
- 48:17SPEAKER_05: But anyway.
- 48:18SPEAKER_04: VeggieTales.
- 48:20SPEAKER_05: Yeah, that would definitely be a hot seller.
- 48:22SPEAKER_05: Veggie Tales.
- 48:25SPEAKER_04: Caillou?
- 48:25SPEAKER_04: Remember that Caillou, the little shit.
- 48:27SPEAKER_05: Oh my gosh, I would smash the whole machine.
- 48:30SPEAKER_04: My kids did ban my kids from watching that shit.
- 48:34SPEAKER_05: Oh my gosh, Caillou is like PTSD Ville, dude.
- 48:37SPEAKER_05: Yeah, no Caillou, please, for the love of God, no Caillou.
- 48:40SPEAKER_13: I have a question about the upcoming awards uh that you're gonna do.
- 48:43SPEAKER_13: Uh, will though will there be a category for uh the number one pinball podcast?
- 48:48SPEAKER_04: Of course.
- 48:49SPEAKER_04: We're gonna do both creators and pinball uh, you know, best art, best sound.
- 48:56SPEAKER_04: We're gonna have it's just gonna be the best award show ever made, and I can't wait for it.
- 49:01SPEAKER_05: Well, and the categories of content creator, we're gonna make sure they're all represented because there are people that do like long form video, this people that do streaming, and when you lump it all in, you're it's not really fair to do that because there are people that specialize in certain kinds of content.
- 49:13SPEAKER_04: So yeah, it'll be very like open and and uh I wanted to call I wanted to call the award itself, you know how the Academy Award says the Oscar.
- 49:22SPEAKER_04: I thought the Roger, right?
- 49:24SPEAKER_04: That could be really cool, but they shit all over it.
- 49:26SPEAKER_05: Yeah, we said that was done.
- 49:31SPEAKER_04: We we can we could do better than that.
- 49:33SPEAKER_04: We can do better than that.
- 49:34SPEAKER_04: Okay, question.
- 49:35SPEAKER_09: Yes, on a previous JBS round table, you talked about having merchandise being available for us to purchase.
- 49:42SPEAKER_09: Is that coming up?
- 49:44SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I would love to do that.
- 49:46SPEAKER_04: We just need a design, you know, that the three of us are gonna agree on.
- 49:49SPEAKER_04: And people send us some stuff and it's like AI done, and that's not something we're kind of into.
- 49:56SPEAKER_05: Um, but we had one we kind of liked that was white that someone made black that we liked, but I don't think I don't wear white.
- 50:03SPEAKER_04: I'm too fat for white.
- 50:04SPEAKER_04: I gotta have to have slimming.
- 50:06SPEAKER_05: We need slimming stuff.
- 50:08SPEAKER_05: Uh but I'll I'll push Jamie a little bit on that one because if I I need to push you on that.
- 50:13SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 50:13SPEAKER_06: Silverball swag has the JBS stuff.
- 50:16SPEAKER_06: I keep killing it.
- 50:18SPEAKER_06: You guys don't have to sugarcoat it.
- 50:20SPEAKER_06: I everything Jamie sends me, I shoot down because I just uh I want to be different.
- 50:26SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 50:26SPEAKER_06: I don't want to, I don't we don't need a shirt, we don't need a hat.
- 50:29SPEAKER_06: Everybody else has them.
- 50:31SPEAKER_06: I just want us to be different.
- 50:32SPEAKER_05: Nothing against Silverball swag, but a couple of shirts I've had, they like chafe the shit out of your nipples, and I'm not down with that.
- 50:38SPEAKER_05: Like very highly chafed.
- 50:41SPEAKER_05: They need to be comfortable.
- 50:42SPEAKER_05: You need like what is that?
- 50:43SPEAKER_05: But some of them aren't.
- 50:44SPEAKER_05: So sometimes I order them and the cotton's all nice, and the other ones, it's very nipply.
- 50:47SPEAKER_05: I don't do that.
- 50:49SPEAKER_04: They give you the I've made like$25 off of Silverball swag, so I'm definitely an expert.
- 50:54SPEAKER_04: And uh they give you like levels of shirt that you can get.
- 51:00SPEAKER_04: Oh, is that really it is also some people on the creator, okay?
- 51:04SPEAKER_04: The creator's cheap and out because you can get the cheap shirt, but he gets like eight dollars compared to the other shit.
- 51:09SPEAKER_06: When you go to purchase, you can be like 100% cotton.
- 51:12SPEAKER_06: I want a hundred percent cotton.
- 51:13SPEAKER_06: Yeah, we can do that.
- 51:15SPEAKER_06: Or I don't get me as me as the so when I go to buy your shirt, no, you have to decide prior what type of shirt you want.
- 51:23SPEAKER_04: I got okay.
- 51:25SPEAKER_04: Well no offense to someone.
- 51:26SPEAKER_05: I don't know who had the niff nipple chafing shirts, but someone did.
- 51:30SPEAKER_05: I don't know.
- 51:31SPEAKER_05: Those end up being like, you know, wax the car shirts later.
- 51:34SPEAKER_04: Yeah, that's not gonna work.
- 51:36SPEAKER_04: All right, another question.
- 51:38SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 51:39SPEAKER_02: Uh first time watcher, long time caller.
- 51:43SPEAKER_02: Uh so Yukon Yeti's like a 2.0 of Whitewater, right?
- 51:49SPEAKER_02: Is there any other title from the past that you think would be a cool 2.0, you know?
- 51:58SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think high speed.
- 52:00SPEAKER_02: Well, I mean high speed has high speed two, right?
- 52:03SPEAKER_02: So I know, but I want to see another one.
- 52:04SPEAKER_06: I've all you want to see a high speed three.
- 52:06SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 52:07SPEAKER_06: I told I told Steve that years ago.
- 52:09SPEAKER_06: Okay.
- 52:10SPEAKER_06: How cool would it be if we got a Jersey Jack high speed?
- 52:13SPEAKER_04: I want to, yeah.
- 52:14SPEAKER_04: I want to do uh what is that with Queen?
- 52:19SPEAKER_04: They did the soundtrack for Queen.
- 52:20SPEAKER_04: Flash Gordon.
- 52:21SPEAKER_04: I want an updated Flash Gordon with like Queen kicking ass and taking names on it.
- 52:25SPEAKER_04: I think that'd be really fun.
- 52:27SPEAKER_05: Yeah, they totally agree.
- 52:29SPEAKER_02: I think they Ralph, what are you?
- 52:31SPEAKER_02: You got one?
- 52:33SPEAKER_02: Ralph, do you have one?
- 52:35SPEAKER_02: Wait, what?
- 52:35SPEAKER_02: Do you have a do you have one that you would like to?
- 52:37SPEAKER_02: Do I have a question?
- 52:38SPEAKER_02: No.
- 52:39SPEAKER_02: Oh.
- 52:40SPEAKER_02: A 2.0 version of a game, you know, like an updated or a uh sequel.
- 52:44SPEAKER_02: You know, maybe Bone Busters.
- 52:47SPEAKER_02: Oh, gee.
- 52:48SPEAKER_02: Oh, you're not bone busters?
- 52:50SPEAKER_05: I don't understand.
- 52:50SPEAKER_05: You have the major boner for Bone Busters, my friend.
- 52:53SPEAKER_05: I mean, it is crazy.
- 52:55SPEAKER_05: Crazy.
- 52:56SPEAKER_05: I'm gonna just give this up.
- 52:58unknown: Hard body two.
- 53:00SPEAKER_05: No, that would be another one.
- 53:01SPEAKER_05: You're giving all you're you're he is loving you right now.
- 53:03SPEAKER_05: Yeah I can't.
- 53:04SPEAKER_05: I'm in a chat with him.
- 53:05SPEAKER_05: It's hard body, like 24-7 and Bone Busters.
- 53:08SPEAKER_05: That's all he talks about.
- 53:08SPEAKER_05: I love them.
- 53:09SPEAKER_05: I love them, but actually, Bone Busters is pretty good.
- 53:15SPEAKER_05: Hard body to dad bod.
- 53:19SPEAKER_05: That would be great.
- 53:20SPEAKER_05: I would sell like hot cakes around here.
- 53:26SPEAKER_04: All right, I think we got time for just a few more questions if anybody has any.
- 53:29SPEAKER_04: If not, there's gotta be more out there.
- 53:31SPEAKER_04: We could riff for a few.
- 53:32SPEAKER_05: Oh, there's one over here, Kevin, over here in the corner.
- 53:42SPEAKER_04: Anonymous super chat.
- 53:44unknown: Thank you.
- 53:44SPEAKER_04: Oh my god.
- 53:46SPEAKER_04: We're going to Culver's tonight, boys and girls.
- 53:49SPEAKER_04: And get a burger.
- 53:50SPEAKER_04: Thank you.
- 53:51SPEAKER_00: So again, thank you guys for everything you do, of course.
- 53:54SPEAKER_00: But on top of it, I know you guys get some time to actually get out there.
- 53:58SPEAKER_00: You get to do media days, you get a lot of rumors, input, all that.
- 54:02SPEAKER_00: But I guess the one thing I really want to know, because I see all the media days you go to, what would be your personal favorite that you've gotten to attend, maybe because hospitality or the game was that great, or what what would be your top ones?
- 54:16SPEAKER_05: Well, if it was based on hospitality, wouldn't you say the John Wick one?
- 54:19SPEAKER_04: I didn't get an invite to that one, by the way.
- 54:22SPEAKER_06: You don't, yeah.
- 54:23SPEAKER_05: Jamie wasn't cool.
- 54:24SPEAKER_05: Wouldn't that be the one that was like the most memorable?
- 54:26SPEAKER_06: Uh John Wick.
- 54:28SPEAKER_06: Yeah, but did you go to the the Avatar launch?
- 54:31SPEAKER_04: Yeah, another one, James.
- 54:33SPEAKER_06: Jack picked up the tab on that one.
- 54:35SPEAKER_05: I didn't get to go to that one.
- 54:36SPEAKER_06: Oh, see?
- 54:37SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
- 54:37SPEAKER_04: Were you invited?
- 54:39SPEAKER_05: I actually wasn't invited.
- 54:40SPEAKER_05: Neither was I.
- 54:40SPEAKER_05: That one that hurt.
- 54:41SPEAKER_05: No, but that one did hurt feelings to use your term, because I'm like kind of buds with with Ken Cromwell.
- 54:47SPEAKER_05: That bummed me out.
- 54:48SPEAKER_05: Oh.
- 54:48SPEAKER_05: I was like, oh, okay, cool.
- 54:49SPEAKER_05: I guess I don't want to.
- 54:50SPEAKER_06: Yeah, but yeah.
- 54:51SPEAKER_06: The the the the whole gun thing and the what you call it, the apology tour.
- 54:55SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I call that.
- 54:56SPEAKER_05: I call the John Mc1 the Apology Tour, but they did like they had us a they bust us down to Logan Arcade, Logan, not Logan's.
- 55:04SPEAKER_05: I I know I always say it wrong.
- 55:05SPEAKER_05: Uh that one was really fun.
- 55:07SPEAKER_05: Like it was just fun because it was and it was really small.
- 55:09SPEAKER_05: Like it not that the big ones aren't aren't fun, but it was like this very intimate, and they shared a lot of details around like how they price games and how like licensing works.
- 55:20SPEAKER_05: And not that we don't know that stuff, but it was kind of interesting because they were like, Look, we we couldn't put the guns on it, and it's a this the there's this uprising about it, and it was the licensor that said, Look, because it's in a public space, we want someone to have to put the money in, and and you know, we whatever.
- 55:37SPEAKER_05: But that was the reason.
- 55:37SPEAKER_05: It was like we we could put guns on the screen, but someone has to make that conscious choice.
- 55:41SPEAKER_05: And that was the license, so that was Lionsgate that wanted it that way.
- 55:44SPEAKER_06: Yeah, so you know, you remember the best part about that?
- 55:46SPEAKER_06: So they got us a huge party bus to take all of us downtown, and Gary is loading us on the bus, and he's he's like, Come on, kids, let's get in here.
- 55:58SPEAKER_06: It was cool, and then and then the doors the door closes, and we're like, Gary, you're not coming with us, and he just walks away.
- 56:07SPEAKER_05: So this is actually really funny.
- 56:09SPEAKER_06: We start, we're like, Okay, well, there you go.
- 56:12SPEAKER_06: I guess he's not coming with us.
- 56:13SPEAKER_06: He probably has some, he's a busy man, right?
- 56:15SPEAKER_06: Right.
- 56:16SPEAKER_06: So we're cruising down the interstate.
- 56:17SPEAKER_06: Everybody, uh Josh was there.
- 56:19SPEAKER_06: Josh was with us here, he remembers, and we're cruising down the interstate, we're rocking out, they have the music cranked up.
- 56:26SPEAKER_06: Next thing you know, we look to the right of us.
- 56:29SPEAKER_06: Here comes this silver-haired gentleman with the top down, passing us in his convertible.
- 56:37SPEAKER_05: It was so classic because we all went to the side of the bus to see him in the window.
- 56:42SPEAKER_05: It's just like the bus was even like tilting over.
- 56:44SPEAKER_05: Oh, this is awesome.
- 56:45SPEAKER_05: There's Gary.
- 56:46SPEAKER_06: Yeah, he's driving himself.
- 56:48SPEAKER_06: He didn't want to, he's like, I gotta have my own car.
- 56:50SPEAKER_05: Yeah, that was that was probably the most fun one by far.
- 56:52SPEAKER_05: Yeah, that was a good question.
- 56:54SPEAKER_04: I'm glad you guys had fun.
- 56:57SPEAKER_05: Oh, we got another super chat.
- 56:58SPEAKER_05: Thank you.
- 56:59SPEAKER_06: We got we got three minutes.
- 57:00SPEAKER_05: Should I do this one out?
- 57:02SPEAKER_06: Before we leave, oh, everybody stick around.
- 57:05SPEAKER_06: There's a great group of people who are gonna uh give a talk after us, and uh I want I want to make sure they have a big audience.
- 57:14SPEAKER_05: Oh, did you want to read the super chat real quick?
- 57:16SPEAKER_05: By MN.
- 57:18SPEAKER_05: Do it like Kale.
- 57:18SPEAKER_05: Kale does it so professionally.
- 57:20SPEAKER_05: Do it like Kale.
- 57:21SPEAKER_06: All right, here we go.
- 57:22SPEAKER_06: Super chat.
- 57:23SPEAKER_06: How much is that?
- 57:24SPEAKER_05: $2.
- 57:25SPEAKER_05: It's all going to Jamie anyway.
- 57:26SPEAKER_06: It's all going to you today.
- 57:28SPEAKER_06: Retro Gamer.
- 57:29SPEAKER_06: Oh, here we go.
- 57:31SPEAKER_06: Bone Busters 2, Indiana Bones is now on the Turner platform.
- 57:38SPEAKER_06: There you go.
- 57:39SPEAKER_06: All right.
- 57:40SPEAKER_06: There you go.
- 57:41SPEAKER_04: Thanks for the super chat.
- 57:42SPEAKER_04: All right, all right, we got it.
- 57:43SPEAKER_04: Last one.
- 57:43SPEAKER_04: Ozzy.
- 57:44SPEAKER_04: Ozzie.
- 57:45SPEAKER_04: All right.
- 57:46SPEAKER_06: The guy who invented the super chat.
- 57:48SPEAKER_06: Yes.
- 57:52SPEAKER_14: Uh each.
- 57:56SPEAKER_14: For you guys, what won the show?
- 57:59SPEAKER_04: What won the show?
- 58:00SPEAKER_14: What won the show?
- 58:00SPEAKER_04: That's a good movie.
- 58:01SPEAKER_14: What are the best games you guys play?
- 58:05SPEAKER_05: I forget the name.
- 58:05SPEAKER_05: It's Flight of the Beaver, whatever that one's called.
- 58:07SPEAKER_05: What is that one called?
- 58:08SPEAKER_06: There's a game called Flight of the Beaver.
- 58:10SPEAKER_05: No, what is it called?
- 58:11SPEAKER_05: No, what's it called?
- 58:13SPEAKER_05: What's the game called?
- 58:14SPEAKER_04: Flight of the Navigator.
- 58:16SPEAKER_05: What is it?
- 58:16SPEAKER_05: You're talking about Titan?
- 58:18SPEAKER_05: Attack of the Titans is very close to what I said.
- 58:20SPEAKER_05: That's the one that won the show to me.
- 58:23SPEAKER_04: What about you, Kale?
- 58:25SPEAKER_06: Well, and what was the question?
- 58:26SPEAKER_04: What won the show?
- 58:28SPEAKER_06: You know what?
- 58:28SPEAKER_06: I'm gonna sound like a broken record, but it's the people.
- 58:31SPEAKER_06: I can play pit ball machines whenever I want to.
- 58:35SPEAKER_06: And seeing all of these wonderful people in one place, it just that is the best part.
- 58:42SPEAKER_06: I I don't even have to go on the floor, really.
- 58:45SPEAKER_06: The it's it's it's all about people.
- 58:48SPEAKER_04: It's eight o'clock and we gotta go, but uh thank you so so so much.
- 58:52SPEAKER_05: Oh wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, what it I don't I don't know what's happening.
- 58:57SPEAKER_04: Yeah, no, guys