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Jamie MacDonald on Hope, Healing, and Her Soulful New Album · Crosswalk Talk: Celebrity Christian Interviews

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  Speaker 1: Life Audio.
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  Speaker 2: Hey Jamie, thanks for joining me.
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  Speaker 1: Happy to be here.
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  Speaker 2: Jamie McDonald's DUB Award nominated Soulful Gospel artist. I'll over music, Jamie.
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  Speaker 2: See the new album titled Simply Jamie McDonald coming out
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  Speaker 2: in January to twenty third first album on a new label.
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  Speaker 2: What are your emotions as you anticipate this album. This
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  Speaker 2: is a lot of hard work that was put in
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  Speaker 2: the desk, Jamie.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, it feels like a finish line for me,
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  Speaker 3: even now that the record's turned in, Like, I kind
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  Speaker 3: of just feel like I've been on this journey my
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  Speaker 3: whole life to get to this point, and really it's
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  Speaker 3: the point would be to like fully open up and
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  Speaker 3: share my story and be brave enough to like put
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  Speaker 3: myself out there in front of the world and tell
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  Speaker 3: the truth about where I've been and where I'm going.
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  Speaker 3: And so it feels I do feel a sense of accomplishment,
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  Speaker 3: like every part of my story makes sense now that
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  Speaker 3: I'm getting to this part in the story, and it's
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  Speaker 3: like feels like it's all worth it.
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  Speaker 2: Many people, many Christian fans, Christian music fans, learned of
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  Speaker 2: your music just a few months ago. I guess when
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  Speaker 2: Desperate was released, But of course you were singing background
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  Speaker 2: vocals for many, many years. Tell us about that. What
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  Speaker 2: artists did you sing for and maybe how did that
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  Speaker 2: impact where you are now.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, So I first got to know like the Nashville
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  Speaker 3: music scene in twenty nineteen. I moved here for just
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  Speaker 3: to kind of get more serious about the music industry
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  Speaker 3: and try to go full time as an artist. And
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  Speaker 3: I was waitressing at the Cheesecake Factory here in Nashville,
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  Speaker 3: and I started getting in the room with producers and
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  Speaker 3: writing songs and it was like my first attempt at
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  Speaker 3: being an artist, and I was blessed to be invited
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  Speaker 3: into rooms with like some of the best people in town.
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  Speaker 1: But we really like.
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  Speaker 3: It was tough for me to find my place in
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  Speaker 3: the Christian genre with my style, and at the time,
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  Speaker 3: I think radio it was like super a little more
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  Speaker 3: narrow and so it was just like, Okay, this and
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  Speaker 3: this about your sound don't work, but like if you
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  Speaker 3: do it this way, then this will work. And I
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  Speaker 3: was just like, ah, I don't think I can like
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  Speaker 3: change who I am, especially since it's taken me so
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  Speaker 3: long to find that.
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  Speaker 1: And so I ended up walking.
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  Speaker 3: Away from Nashville and just deciding it wasn't for me
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  Speaker 3: at the time doing like the Christian artistry thing. But
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  Speaker 3: I had all these awesome sessions that I did with
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  Speaker 3: these producers where we wrote songs and I was like, hey,
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  Speaker 3: I'm hearing a choir on this, and I was like,
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  Speaker 3: let me at it, and so I would stack my
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  Speaker 3: vocals to the high heavens and like, I've always been
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  Speaker 3: drawn to that choir sound. And so later on, like
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  Speaker 3: they remembered that when they were looking for somebody to
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  Speaker 3: do backgrounds or stack a choir type sound on some
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  Speaker 3: of the artists that they work with. So I'm like, well,
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  Speaker 3: we remember when Jamie was here in the studio and
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  Speaker 3: she stacked her voice a million.
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  Speaker 1: Times to sound like a choir. Let's call her.
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  Speaker 3: And so they started calling me for that, and so
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  Speaker 3: I got to be this like closet choir from my
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  Speaker 3: house in Georgia. I had like a little studio in
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  Speaker 3: my closet and it was very minimal. It was like
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  Speaker 3: a laptop and a microphone literally, and They're like, just
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  Speaker 3: do your thing on it. So I just started getting
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  Speaker 3: to do these tracks for I did quite a few
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  Speaker 3: for Ann Wilson.
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  Speaker 1: I did. She was kind of where I started.
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  Speaker 3: And then I started working with Zach Williams team a
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  Speaker 3: bunch and did several on his last record, and then
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  Speaker 3: then it just kept stacking up and I got to
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  Speaker 3: work with I don't know, Pat Barrett, David Leonard, I
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  Speaker 3: got to sing a little bit with Maverick City, and gosh,
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  Speaker 3: I just I kind of think every artist there is,
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  Speaker 3: Megan Woods, Tarrian just like choir stuff. Actually, Rewind, I
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  Speaker 3: don't think I was sang for Tarrian. Maybe one day
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  Speaker 3: I'll get to, but Megan Woods and let's see, like
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  Speaker 3: Micah Tyler and Ben Fuller and I just started getting
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  Speaker 3: the calls NonStop. So I was doing like just one
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  Speaker 3: after the other and having the time of my life
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  Speaker 3: with it because I just I love harmony so much.
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  Speaker 3: So it was like, Okay, there's no one telling me
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  Speaker 3: like that's too many harmonies. Like I could just go
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  Speaker 3: absolutely crazy. And you know it's fun too, because when
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  Speaker 3: you stack like a home choir, you have to like
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  Speaker 3: change your voice and try to sound like different people.
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  Speaker 3: So I'd be like, hol Lou, you know, like do
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  Speaker 3: these weird voices, and then I'd be like, and you
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  Speaker 3: just get to be silly and have help. I think
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  Speaker 3: I just really got into that and then it was
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  Speaker 3: cool because I was able to build relationships with so
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  Speaker 3: many artists through singing on their songs before I even
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  Speaker 3: jumped in the music scene.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's really unique. Not not many artists get to
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  Speaker 2: do that. That's awesome. Now, did you grow up with
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  Speaker 2: a desire to be a singer? How did when did
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  Speaker 2: you discover you had this gift for music?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so growing up, Like I kind of realized this
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  Speaker 3: later in life, but when I was young, my dad
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  Speaker 3: loved to sing, and so we would ride them around
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  Speaker 3: in the car with him, and it was like nobody talked.
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  Speaker 1: Because the music was too loud, and so you just
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  Speaker 1: had to either sing.
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  Speaker 3: Along or I could just, I don't know, not be
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  Speaker 3: a part of it because my dad would just belt,
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  Speaker 3: you know, Michael W. Smith and like Stepa Curtis Chapman,
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  Speaker 3: Windows Down. I know, they just re released the song
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  Speaker 3: Placed in This World with for King Country. That was
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  Speaker 3: my dad's favorite song, and so I remember him belting
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  Speaker 3: that from when I was a kid, and I think
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  Speaker 3: that was like where some of my love for music started,
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  Speaker 3: where it was just like there's a feeling of freedom
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  Speaker 3: with music that it's like an escape. And my dad
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  Speaker 3: and mom divorced when I was young, and he ended
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  Speaker 3: up like not really being a part of my life
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  Speaker 3: after that.
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  Speaker 1: He was a former pro boxer and.
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  Speaker 3: He had like a lot of mental issues from that,
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  Speaker 3: but it really was where my love for singing started.
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  Speaker 3: And then fast forward to just like the last few years,
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  Speaker 3: I got to reunite with him, and little did I
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  Speaker 3: know it would be us singing those same songs together.
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  Speaker 3: He had dementia from the boxing and ended up passing
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  Speaker 3: away in twenty twenty three. But leading up to him,
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  Speaker 3: you know, having taken his last breath, we were singing
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  Speaker 3: those same songs again and able to just like connect
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  Speaker 3: and rebuild our relationship before he passed.
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  Speaker 1: So it was very very beautiful.
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  Speaker 2: That's very beautiful. How did you come to faith in Christ?
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  Speaker 2: Was that as a young person?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: So, well, my dad obviously planted a lot of seeds
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  Speaker 3: of faith, and even like when he would have his
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  Speaker 3: like televised fights being a pro boxer, you know, they'd
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  Speaker 3: give him the microphone and say, so, Jim, what do
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  Speaker 3: you think of the you know, your opponent, and he'd
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  Speaker 3: be like, well, Jesus is coming back, and you know,
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  Speaker 3: he would just like preach the gospel every time they
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  Speaker 3: gave him the microphone. So they finally just kind of
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  Speaker 3: go to commercial and stop giving him the mic. But
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  Speaker 3: he was always like a radical faith person, and so
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  Speaker 3: I think those seeds are planning in me at a
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  Speaker 3: young age.
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  Speaker 1: But I had my.
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  Speaker 3: Own first experience at church camp when I was twelve
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  Speaker 3: years old, and like I said, my dad had been
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  Speaker 3: gone for a number of years.
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  Speaker 1: My mom remarried.
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  Speaker 3: And our new stepdad really didn't really didn't want kids around,
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  Speaker 3: and so when we moved into his house when they married,
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  Speaker 3: rule for me was no singing in the house. And
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  Speaker 3: so I really struggled with that as a young girl
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  Speaker 3: who loved music to get like it, punished for it
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  Speaker 3: at home, but celebrated at school and stuff for singing.
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  Speaker 3: And so I got to camp and it was just
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  Speaker 3: like a really I felt rescued when I got to camp.
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  Speaker 3: It was just like this is the family for me,
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  Speaker 3: because they never stopped singing, and they also just you know,
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  Speaker 3: they wanted me there. They said, We're so glad you're here.
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  Speaker 3: God has a plan for you. God loves you, and
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  Speaker 3: so do we. And I think I felt so misunderstood
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  Speaker 3: as a young girl in so many ways, and so
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  Speaker 3: I finally felt like I belonged somewhere at church camp.
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  Speaker 3: And so that was like a pivotal moment for me.
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  Speaker 3: Even though getting home from camp, I still returned to
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  Speaker 3: the same, you know, just like the brokenness of my
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  Speaker 3: home and then got into like my teen years, got
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  Speaker 3: into the wrong crowd, peer pressure, started getting into drugs
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  Speaker 3: and alcohol, ended up dropping out of high school, and
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  Speaker 3: then really hit rock bottom and cried out to God
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  Speaker 3: again and at the age to twenty one, and I
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  Speaker 3: just said, God, I remember you said you had a
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  Speaker 3: plan for my life, and I know I've really messed
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  Speaker 3: it up. So if you can help me, like I'd
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  Speaker 3: love to start over and know what that plan is.
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  Speaker 3: And so from then on, like I just kind of
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  Speaker 3: radically turned about three sixty and I started going to
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  Speaker 3: church and getting into my Bible. I got out on
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  Speaker 3: the mission field and just left that whole past behind.
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  Speaker 3: And it took a number of years for me to
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  Speaker 3: really heal from all of my past and to really
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  Speaker 3: know who I am in Christ and not have like
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  Speaker 3: my past define me. And so it's it's kind of cool.
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  Speaker 3: I'm finally getting to tell that story. But it took
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  Speaker 3: a really long time to get here. So that's another
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  Speaker 3: reason why this whole sharing this new record and telling
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  Speaker 3: my testimony for the first time feels so huge.
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  Speaker 2: Let me let me wrap two questions into one question here.
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  Speaker 2: You you talked about your brokenness from your youth, and
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  Speaker 2: you also later in life served in prison ministry. How
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  Speaker 2: did those two elements and may impact your music and
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  Speaker 2: your message?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, you know, I told you, I kind of
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  Speaker 3: walked away from Nashville and was like, oh, the music industry,
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  Speaker 3: it's just I'm not finding how I fit. And so
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  Speaker 3: I started to miss music and I just needed hope.
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  Speaker 3: And I wrote in my journal that I'd love to
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  Speaker 3: sing again, but maybe like just in a prison somewhere
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  Speaker 3: that's like low pressure, where it's just for the love
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  Speaker 3: of music and there's nothing corrupting and making it confusing.
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  Speaker 3: I just wanted to find my love for music again.
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  Speaker 3: And so a week later I got a call from
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  Speaker 3: a random number I didn't know, and they said, we
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  Speaker 3: got your number from someone who said you might be
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  Speaker 3: interested in singing in a prison here in Georgia. And
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  Speaker 3: I was thought, well, cool, I don't know any of
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  Speaker 3: the Georgia prison systems. So it was just such a
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  Speaker 3: god thing. And it was a choir that wanted to
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  Speaker 3: feature me for a performance that they were going to
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  Speaker 3: do within the prison for the rest of the inmates.
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  Speaker 3: And so I show up there and I immediately felt
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  Speaker 3: at home. I mean, looking back at my past and
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  Speaker 3: like everyone who I was running with throughout my teen years,
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  Speaker 3: these girls reminded me of like who I grew up with,
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  Speaker 3: you know, just like I could be right there in
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  Speaker 3: prison with them, you know, for some of the places
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  Speaker 3: I was and some of the you know, the things
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  Speaker 3: that I was a part of.
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  Speaker 1: And so I.
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  Speaker 3: Think for me, it just felt like just a place
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  Speaker 3: to belong and I wanted to give back. And what's
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  Speaker 3: crazy is like they ended up blessing me so much
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  Speaker 3: more than I thought I was going to be a
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  Speaker 3: blessing to them, and they walked me through losing my dad,
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  Speaker 3: you know.
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  Speaker 1: They became like my home church.
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  Speaker 3: And I started I joined like part time staff at
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  Speaker 3: the prison so that I could keep coming back weekly
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  Speaker 3: and I was teaching songwriting and just changed my entire life.
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  Speaker 3: So I think it was really full circle because some
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  Speaker 3: of my friends did go to prison back when I was,
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  Speaker 3: you know, off the rails, and so to be able
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  Speaker 3: to now go into prisons and share my faith and
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  Speaker 3: share my story. I was able to connect with them
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  Speaker 3: so quickly because I've been there, you know, And so
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  Speaker 3: it was cool to see too, how like how Christian
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  Speaker 3: music has kept them filled with faith in there where
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  Speaker 3: you wouldn't know they're in prison by the way they
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  Speaker 3: talk and the way they act, because they're just so
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  Speaker 3: filled with hope. And Christian music is a big part
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  Speaker 3: of that. And so I thought, oh my gosh, if
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  Speaker 3: I could get a song on the radio and like
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  Speaker 3: maybe go back to Nashville and try this thing again,
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  Speaker 3: like I could reach all the prisons at once, because
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  Speaker 3: I was seeing just how much one song, you know,
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  Speaker 3: can like carry them in there.
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  Speaker 1: So I thought, Okay, I think I have my why now, and.
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  Speaker 3: It's no matter what I have to do to like
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  Speaker 3: do this industry thing, Like I know why I'm doing it,
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  Speaker 3: and so I think it made it all click into place.
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  Speaker 1: It makes sense for me.
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  Speaker 2: So the prisoners impacted where you are now that you're
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  Speaker 2: the ministry and the people you met there, oh yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And they still do.
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  Speaker 3: I mean I have them in mind with everything I'm
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  Speaker 3: doing and everything I'm writing.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, what a story. Let's talk about your sound, because
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  Speaker 2: your sound is very unique. How would you describe your sound?
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  Speaker 2: Is it a blend of I don't know, multiple different genres.
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  Speaker 2: What would you say?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: I mean growing up, I loved Mariah Carey, So that
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  Speaker 3: was like just that early on.
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  Speaker 1: That kind of R and B soulful sound.
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  Speaker 3: Right when I heard like her Christmas record and my walkman,
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  Speaker 3: I was like, what is this?
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  Speaker 1: And I'm like, I have to learn how to sing
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  Speaker 1: like that.
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  Speaker 3: And then I saw the movie sisterrect Too, and I
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  Speaker 3: fell in love with like that choir sound, and I
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  Speaker 3: was just like, oh, like no one in my town
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  Speaker 3: was listening to this music, but like this is how
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  Speaker 3: I feel on the inside.
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  Speaker 1: And so I was just like, I've got to know
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  Speaker 1: how to do it.
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  Speaker 3: So I started studying like her voice and not saying
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  Speaker 3: I sing like Mariah Carey, but I tried. I'd learned
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  Speaker 3: how to do runs, you know, where I'd like manipulate
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  Speaker 3: my voice to be like, okay, I have to learn
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  Speaker 3: how to do those little curly cues.
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  Speaker 1: And then just like over time, you know, as I gave.
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  Speaker 3: My life to christ I started finding more gospel influences.
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  Speaker 1: A big one for me is cc Winans.
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  Speaker 3: Natalie Grant was somebody that I found early on in
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  Speaker 3: my faith journey where I was switching over from secular
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  Speaker 3: to Christian music and I'm like, all right, what do
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  Speaker 3: we got out here? And so there were two people
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  Speaker 3: that were big staples and just teaching me how to
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  Speaker 3: sing from my soul and sing for God. And so
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  Speaker 3: cc Winans is still one of my biggest heroes to
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  Speaker 3: this day.
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  Speaker 2: So amen to that. I think everybody's a fan of cc.
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  Speaker 2: Let's switch to the album. Jamie McDonald is the name
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  Speaker 2: of the album January twenty third. One of the songs
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  Speaker 2: that I of course I haven't listened to the entire
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  Speaker 2: album as a connect had, but one of the ones
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  Speaker 2: that I really enjoyed was My Family. I've never heard
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  Speaker 2: a song like that. It's it's kind of like a
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  Speaker 2: Christian anthem about bringing a family back together that's broken.
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  Speaker 2: What's the story there? I mean, was that influenced by
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  Speaker 2: your own childhood? Oh?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah for sure.
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  Speaker 3: And you know, for so many years I've had a
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  Speaker 3: broken family and it's been an area that I've at
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  Speaker 3: times tried to mend together. Myself, and you know, there's
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  Speaker 3: times when certain family members don't talk to each other
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  Speaker 3: and I'm like, hey, you should talk to her and
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  Speaker 3: like try to get them, you know, get everybody back together.
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  Speaker 3: And even generations pass, you know, there's been family members
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  Speaker 3: that just split up and don't talk and it just
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  Speaker 3: breaks my heart, especially, you know, just knowing like if
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  Speaker 3: we could all forgive and like move forward, we could
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  Speaker 3: actually like it's not too late for us to have like.
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  Speaker 1: The family that God intended. And so I think I tried.
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  Speaker 3: To carry that sometimes and this was a song of
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  Speaker 3: surrender in the midst of some of my hardest times
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  Speaker 3: with my family in the past couple of years, to
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  Speaker 3: just finally give that back to God and say, like,
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  Speaker 3: if you know how to move mountains and parts seas,
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  Speaker 3: surely like you're strong enough to restore families, and you care.
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  Speaker 3: You care about it even more than I do. So
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  Speaker 3: it felt good to give that back to God. And
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  Speaker 3: what's cool is like I think sometimes when you have
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  Speaker 3: a broken family, you and you look around, it seems
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  Speaker 3: like everyone else has a perfect family, and we can
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  Speaker 3: like make the mistake of assuming that people don't have
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  Speaker 3: problems by the way they look on the outside, especially
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  Speaker 3: like in the Christian world and that church and stuff.
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  Speaker 3: But what I've learned through releasing this song is just
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  Speaker 3: like so many people have brokenness in their family and
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  Speaker 3: things that aren't okay, that they still don't know how
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  Speaker 3: to come to terms with God with where things are at.
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  Speaker 3: And so it's been cool to see people find a
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  Speaker 3: tool to give it back to God and trust him
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  Speaker 3: even when you know you might not be able to
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  Speaker 3: see what you want to see, like in your current season.
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  Speaker 2: And then to that I left it in the river
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  Speaker 2: of course, is also on the album. Now, there's many
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  Speaker 2: many new songs on the album For those who haven't
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  Speaker 2: checked it out, What do you hope listeners take away
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  Speaker 2: from your new album? You want them to enjoy it,
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  Speaker 2: of course, just an entertainment project, but what are some
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  Speaker 2: themes that you want listeners to take away.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you know, there's a lot of songs on this
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  Speaker 3: record that was like my first time talking about these
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  Speaker 3: parts of my story, and like writing the songs has
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  Speaker 3: healed me a lot in certain areas, and so my
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  Speaker 3: heart is that like those same songs would then heal
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  Speaker 3: other people and get them to have something to hold
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  Speaker 3: on to. If they're walking through some of their hardest things.
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  Speaker 3: And then of course I sprinkled in the bops where
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  Speaker 3: they can enjoy and find joy even on a hard
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  Speaker 3: day and connect to God. Really, my heart is that
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  Speaker 3: they would just connect to God and connect to what's true.
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  Speaker 3: When I think all of us are facing a lot
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  Speaker 3: that people don't see.
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  Speaker 2: You know, tell us about your style. You're aesthetic. You
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  Speaker 2: certainly stand apart in terms of you know, your hat,
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  Speaker 2: your your glasses, everything. How did that develop? And I
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  Speaker 2: guess how many different shades of glasses do you have
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  Speaker 2: for your for your tour?
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  Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, well wow, I've always had to wear glasses
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  Speaker 3: my whole life, and so I just like, I think,
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  Speaker 3: I just thought, if I'm wearing something on my face
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  Speaker 3: every day, I got to keep it interesting and enjoy
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  Speaker 3: it myself too. So I've tried contacts I don't really like. Honestly,
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  Speaker 3: I was bad at like taking them out at night.
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  Speaker 3: I just like sleep with them in and then my
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  Speaker 3: eyes got irritated and I just thought, no, this is
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  Speaker 3: not for me. So my grandma, though, used to wear
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  Speaker 3: crazy glasses when I was young, and she would actually
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  Speaker 3: like per outfit. She would paint the rims of her
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  Speaker 3: glasses to match her shoes or to match part of
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  Speaker 3: her outfit with nail polish, and so like, say she's
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  Speaker 3: wearing like red shoes that day to church, she would
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  Speaker 3: like quickly before church, just paint the repaint the rim
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  Speaker 3: or red color. And so I think maybe some of
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  Speaker 3: that came from my grandma. I realized that kind of recently.
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  Speaker 3: And then I actually used to work in an eye store.
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  Speaker 3: So after I ended up getting my GD and getting
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  Speaker 3: certified as an optician's assistant, and so I worked in
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  Speaker 3: a few eye stores with the dispensing side, and so
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  Speaker 3: I got really into glasses that way too, And my
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  Speaker 3: mom now works in an eyeglass store. So I think
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  Speaker 3: it's just a thing that an I shop online for
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  Speaker 3: mine and I get to pick the tint. So these
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  Speaker 3: are all prescription glasses.
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  Speaker 2: And of course you I think you tell k Love
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  Speaker 2: that you were a big thrift store shopper and that
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  Speaker 2: you liked the good stuff. Is that still the case?
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  Speaker 3: Yes, I honestly, as a young girl, my dad used
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  Speaker 3: to make us stop at every garage sale because he
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: was an antique dealer, and so we were always like
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  Speaker 3: whipping U turns anytime there was like a garage shale
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  Speaker 3: that we drove by, or thrift storees Goodwill, and so
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  Speaker 3: there's something nostalgic about it. Like even the smell of
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  Speaker 3: a thrift store just like takes me back to like
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  Speaker 3: really good memories of kind of treasure hunting and my
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  Speaker 3: dad always found like treasures that were actually worth money.
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  Speaker 3: And so in my mind, like when I walk in there,
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, there's gold in here, we just gotta find it.
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  Speaker 3: And so I think it's it feels like some kind
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  Speaker 3: of a treasure hunt, and I have a really good time,
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  Speaker 3: whether I find stuff or not.
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  Speaker 1: I think that just the act of shopping in.
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  Speaker 3: A thrift store just feels it's like one of my
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  Speaker 3: favorite feelings. I don't know, it's like a nostalgia, but yeah,
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  Speaker 3: a lot of my clothes are thrifted.
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  Speaker 1: Honestly. I shop on Amazon a lot. Nowadays.
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  Speaker 3: I don't have as much time to just leisurely shop
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  Speaker 3: around at garage sales, but I will stop at a
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  Speaker 3: garage sale. I was at a thrift store this weekend,
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  Speaker 3: and yeah, I like one of a kind pieces too,
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  Speaker 3: So it's like I know when I find this old
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  Speaker 3: shirt at an estate sale, no one else is going
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  Speaker 3: to have it, you know, and that makes it kind
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  Speaker 3: of fun.
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  Speaker 2: That's cool. Jamiemingdowald Music dot com is the website. You
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  Speaker 2: have a tour coming up. Briefly give us a preview
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  Speaker 2: of the tour for those who are fans and want
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  Speaker 2: to come.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So it's my first headline tour and it's this February.
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  Speaker 1: We've got eight dates.
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  Speaker 3: Around the country and a few are already sold out,
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  Speaker 3: which is crazy. But I have Taylor Hill as my opener.
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  Speaker 3: He's an incredible artist right here out in Nashville. And yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I am excited to share the full record. I think
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  Speaker 3: this is a unique tour because I actually just have
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  Speaker 3: the record to play and I don't have all these this
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  Speaker 3: backlog of songs that I'm going to pull from, like
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  Speaker 3: you're getting the record, and I'm pretty stoked to just
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  Speaker 3: connect with new fans and really get to tell the
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  Speaker 3: story in a bigger way since I have a bigger
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  Speaker 3: time slot for.
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  Speaker 1: My own tour.
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  Speaker 3: Jamie, thanks so much, Thank you, Michael, it was fun
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  Speaker 3: hanging out.
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